[00:01] <bkerensa> mmm
[00:06] <SergioMeneses> I'm back
[00:11] <JoseeAntonioR> jono: did you get a chance to look at the localization project?
[06:49] <dholbach> good morning
[08:01] <Tm_T> morning
[09:28] <dpm> dholbach, what was the mailing list for the app store again?
[09:28] <dholbach> dpm, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-appstore-developers
[09:29] <dpm> dholbach, perfect, thanks!
[09:30] <dholbach> de nada
[10:10] <bkerensa> anyone know about this canned "Canonical Ubuntu Research" e-mail from Tingting Zhao at Canonical Ltd. ?
[10:10] <smartboyhw> :O
[10:10] <smartboyhw> What the heck is that!?
[10:11] <bkerensa> Asking me to do a desktop record of unity amazon scope and my favorite searches to buy stuff?
[10:11] <bkerensa> smartboyhw: idk
[10:11] <bkerensa> popey: ?
[10:11] <smartboyhw> :O
[10:11] <smartboyhw> bkerensa: That looks like a fake… :P
[10:13] <popey> bkerensa: not seen it, can you forward?
[10:13] <bkerensa> smartboyhw: http://awesomescreenshot.com/0141ebsfb5
[10:13] <bkerensa> popey: sure
[10:13] <bkerensa> I checked the headers
[10:13] <bkerensa> its legit
[10:13] <bkerensa> and looked up the person
[10:13] <bkerensa> :(
[10:14] <bkerensa> popey: sent
[10:15] <popey> ta
[10:16] <popey> "You are receiving this email as you expressed your interest in taking part in Ubuntu's research in our October's (2012) survey"
[10:17] <bkerensa> Yeah I never opted in
[10:17] <bkerensa> and if I click the "Why am I getting this"
[10:17] <bkerensa> it says "Ubuntu user groups with country"
[10:17] <popey> are you interested in helping or do you want your name removed from the list?
[10:19] <bkerensa> popey: I have removed myself
[10:20] <popey> thats a shame, ah well.
[10:21] <smartboyhw> popey: It IS legit?!
[10:23] <popey> What's the problem smartboyhw ?
[10:24] <smartboyhw> popey: Doesn't it look like spamming?
[10:24] <popey> Not to me. It looks like a request from a deisgner to get input to make Ubuntu better.
[10:25] <popey> Do you not think we should be making Ubuntu better?
[10:27] <smartboyhw> popey: Eh, you shouldn't send mails without people knowing it…
[10:27] <smartboyhw> it = subscribed…
[10:27] <smartboyhw> No one even knew it existed…
[10:27] <popey> Stop.
[10:27] <popey> Just stop.
[10:27] <elfy> personally I'd welcome the chance to give input
[10:27] <popey> "no One"
[10:27] <popey> jeez
[10:28] <popey> stop jumping to conclusions and making out like we're doing evil shit because we aren't.
[10:28] <popey> people bitch and moan about unity
[10:28] <popey> here's a chance to help
[10:28] <popey> oh no, lets not help, that's far too easy
[10:28] <popey> ffs
[10:28] <popey> lets instead focus on the fact that there may have been a mistake in the mailing list
[10:28] <smartboyhw> popey: I think so.
[10:29] <popey> It's incredibly tiresome to work on a product and get bitched and moaned at, and when you offer people a way to input to make it better, they kick sand in your face. Well done. Good work.
[10:30] <popey> HOW DARE CANONICAL EMAIL ME! I AM OUTRAGED!
[10:30] <popey> etc
[11:02] <popey> bkerensa smartboyhw apologies for flipping out in channel. That was unprofessional of me. I should have taken it to PM.
[11:02] <smartboyhw> popey: :)
[11:27] <popey> bkerensa: spoke to tingting, she's removed you from the mailing list, and assures me that she only included people who expressed interest in participating in research, so I don't know how your address got on the list, but it's off now. She sincerely apologised.
[12:57] <dholbach> tvoss is asking around who could ubuntufy the css of the doxgen theme
[14:53] <jono> dholbach, jcastro, dpm, mhall119, balloons sorry, guys, cant make demo day call, our babysitter is coming later and I need to take care of Jack
[14:53] <jono> might be able to hop on later but the first 30mins I can't join
[14:53] <dpm> no worries
[14:53] <dpm> I spent two weeks preparing my demo and working 14 hour days, but no worries, no bad feelings
[14:53] <dpm> really
[14:54] <dholbach> jono, I'd just have something really quick to demo - if we skip the call, I'd work on getting an update for the XDA thread out
[14:54] <dholbach> so there'd be absolutely no hard feelings from my end :)
[14:54]  * dpm has in fact no demo for today
[14:54] <dholbach> mhall119, balloons, jcastro?
[14:55] <dpm> actually, I do have something I can show, though
[14:56] <balloons> hmm.. I'd like to say hi to everyone :-) But nothing to demo atm
[14:57] <balloons> it's pitch black here and storming.. always weird in the morning
[14:58] <balloons> sun comes up, storm comes in, sun goes down :-)
[15:02] <dpm> balloons, you said something about gated commits for the core apps Jenkins being ready to be activated on yesterday's call, but I can't quite recall. Can they be activated now?
[15:03] <mhall119> dpm: jcastro: we're on the hangout
[15:03] <balloons> dpm, yes hop on the call
[15:03] <dpm> mhall119, balloons, cool, joining in!
[15:03] <balloons> dpm, I'm not typing :-)
[15:23] <jono> dholbach, you guys still on the call?
[15:23] <dholbach> jono, we just finished - but we could get back on I suppose
[15:24] <jono> dholbach, naaa
[15:24] <jono> its fine
[15:24] <jono> dholbach, can we have a quick call though?
[15:24] <dholbach> jono, sure , let's just re-use the one from earlier: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/54f4d48ce040200ddc2fdcb8f9d5da535f00bfb9
[15:24] <jono> dholbach, cool
[15:46] <dpm> dholbach, sorry for hijacking the call, I somehow got a hangout invite and I initially thought we were re-joining the demo day call
[15:46] <dholbach> dpm, no worries - you did not hijack in the slightest
[15:53] <balloons>  dpm ahh this was the suggested place: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/trunk/files/540/tests/autopilot/UbuntuUiToolkit
[15:56] <dpm> aha, yeah, it makes sense
[15:59] <jono> dpm, hey
[15:59] <jono> dpm, when will the tutorial pages changes land on d.u.c?
[15:59] <jono> as in, the Tutorial sidebar
[16:00] <dpm> jono, ah, let me do this now, I got sidetracked yesterday after the call. Give me 15
[16:01] <jono> thanks dpm
[16:01] <jono> dpm, mhall119 is landing the first cut of the knowledge base today and I will blog it
[16:01] <dpm> yep, on it
[16:14] <dpm> jono, mhall119, the Tutorials sidebar is ready. Here's an example category: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/quality/. mhall119, if you can point me to the list of Cookbook categories, I can create them so that you only need to copy the content to each page
[16:14] <jono> dpm, I would change it from Basics to Writing a Native App
[16:15] <jono> or
[16:15] <jono> if that page has multiple tutorials
[16:15] <jono> to Getting Started
[16:15] <dpm> ok, on it -> Getting Started
[16:15] <jono> cool
[16:16] <dpm> I think it'd be best if we use short category names, otherwise the URLs will be very long, that's why I prefer getting started over writing a native app
[16:18] <dpm> jono, ok -> http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/getting-started/
[16:18] <jono> dpm, cool
[16:19] <jono> dpm, any chance we can put the tutorial section at the top?
[16:20] <dpm> jono, yeah, looking to see if I can add some weight to the sidebar tabs now
[16:22] <jono> thanks dpm
[16:32] <jono> dholbach, mhall119 UDS call
[16:36] <dpm> jono, ok, done: http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/
[18:08] <pleia2> heh, ~not-canonical has been fun today, -czajkowski -aquarius +kirkland
[18:45] <jono> jcastro, check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im78cAVDyfQ
[18:45] <jono> awesome
[18:45] <jono> pleia2, :-)
[18:45] <jono> it is all change
[18:49] <pleia2> indeed!
[19:33] <philballew> What sub-genres of Metal is this?
[19:35] <philballew> *sub-genre
[19:36]  * philballew puts his Bon Iver vinyl back on
[22:30] <jono> folks
[22:30] <jono> http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/14/certificates-for-ubuntu-members/
[22:30] <jono> certificates for Ubuntu Members ^
[22:31] <pleia2> \o/
[22:31] <jrgifford> Signed by sabdfl himself! 0_o
[22:37] <jono> jrgifford, :-)
[22:38] <daker> we don't have state/province and it requird :(
[22:39] <jono> daker, hmmm, email michelle@canonical.com - she might be able to get that fixed
[22:39] <philip__> jono, Just read the email. I think this is a great tangible way to make feel good about the work people have done and also something good to show employers who might like the Ubuntu Membership title.
[22:39] <philip__> I will hang it over my bed so I can see it every time I wake up.
[22:39] <jono> philip__, awesome :-)
[22:40] <daker> jono: anyway it has the "*" mark but it does not block the form
[22:40] <jono> daker, :-)
[22:40] <daker> \m/ waiting for it :)
[22:41] <jono> pleia2, btw, I am hoping to announce the donations programme on Mon too
[22:41] <pleia2> jono: great :)
[22:41] <jono> pleia2, looks like the CC didn't have any other input
[22:41] <pleia2> jono: nope
[22:42] <pleia2> I'll nudge the rest of them over the weekend to make sure everyone took a look at the etherpad
[22:43] <jono> pleia2, thanks :-)
[22:48] <bkerensa> pleia2: \o/ yay certs
[22:48] <bkerensa> :D
[22:56] <bkerensa> jono: do flavor members qualify for a cert?
[22:57] <jono> bkerensa, if they are an ubuntu member, of course
[22:59] <jono> bkerensa, CLS email sent
[22:59] <mhall119> I believe flavor members are ubuntu members by default
[23:00] <mhall119> edubuntu is that way anyway
[23:00] <bkerensa> mhall119: i didnt know Kubuntu was
[23:00] <bkerensa> looks like all are subteams of Ubuntu Members so yeah
[23:01] <jono> bkerensa, indeed, this is why we picked ubuntu members as the fairest group
[23:01] <jono> as also, all devs will be included in that group
[23:01] <bkerensa> yay
[23:01]  * bkerensa has dual-membership :)
[23:06] <pleia2> bkerensa: I made one for a xubuntu member http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/xubuntu/xubuntu-membership-unit193.jpg
[23:06] <pleia2> it must be friday
[23:10] <jono> pleia2, that is awesome :-)
[23:10] <pleia2> haha
[23:22] <bkerensa> hah