[00:26] <jbicha> for taking screenshots of menus, a workaround is to open the screenshot app and do a screenshot with a delay of a few seconds
[00:26] <jbicha> there's a long-standing bug preventing things like "media keys" or even the screensaver activating when a menu is open
[00:27] <jbicha> there's probably quite a few bug fixes (like for GNOME Fallback) that can be backported to 12.04 LTS but since most of us don't run 12.04 any more, we're waiting for somebody to do the patching and the testing
[00:33] <darkxst> jbicha, pushed updated panels patch lp branch
[00:34] <aamer> jbicha, thank you, an example of a screenshot program that i can use?
[00:38] <aamer> and jbicha, I'm using ubuntu 12.04 LTS with GNOME Fallback, I just need to find where to set the Application menu height, this is gonna solve my problem.
[00:40] <jbicha> aamer: Ubuntu comes with a screenshot app; I think it's in Accessories
[00:40] <jbicha> what theme are you using?
[00:41] <jbicha> and have you changed the font size
[00:54] <aamer> it's an emerald's theme and yes, I believe the theme has something to do with that, but I don't know where to fix it, the theme is called professional, it uses vrunner, but the same issue happens when i use the theme "new hope" this one uses pixmap, or any other emerald theme as far as I can tell, I like emerald themes they look so good! :( and I took a screenshot thanks to you, im gonna upload
[00:55] <aamer> that was to jbicha
[00:55] <jbicha> as long as it doesn't happen with Ambiance, Radiance, or Adwaita, then the only thing I can recommend is that you contact the theme creators
[01:08] <aamer>  
[01:08] <aamer> https://imageshack.com/a/img694/9596/ri6.png
[01:08] <aamer> jbicha please take a look, the same problem is happening with the default theme
[01:09] <jbicha> aamer: I'm aware of a bug like that that was fixed at some point but I don't remember if it was fixed for 12.04 LTS or not
[01:28] <aamer> SonikkuAmerica what do u think? now u c the screenshot
[01:28] <SonikkuAmerica> aamer: I told you to ask in #cairo-dock
[01:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Because that's where the issue really is
[01:29] <aamer> SonikkuAmerica I did, nobody's answering
[01:29] <aamer> SonikkuAmerica I don't think so
[01:29] <SonikkuAmerica> aamer: You might ask in the main #ubuntu channel then...
[01:29] <aamer> Okay SonikkuAmerica thanx again :)
[01:29] <SonikkuAmerica> yw
[01:31] <aamer> OMG that room is really full :)
[01:32] <SonikkuAmerica> aamer: I'm surprised you didn't show up there first
[01:59] <aamer> SonikkuAmerica I'm surprised that even there, nobody's answering, although i believe many people should be having the same problem.
[02:00] <SonikkuAmerica> aamer: Well it is a Cairo-Dock issue; maybe file a support ticket at http://www.glx-dock.org/ ?
[02:02] <aamer> SonikkuAmerica, do u know how to get the classic panel back?
[02:02] <SonikkuAmerica> aamer: install gnome-panel
[02:03] <SonikkuAmerica> aamer: If you didn't already that is
[02:12] <bjsnider> how can he be using an emerald theme at this point? emerald is dead
[02:14] <bjsnider> he's using compiz/emerald and cairo-dock. this isn't 2005 anymore
[02:14] <SonikkuAmerica> bjsnider: Neither am I in Kansas. So many people still use BackTrack
[02:18] <bjsnider> aamer, you're using compiz/emerald and cairo-dock?
[02:18] <aamer> bjsnider yes, too much right?
[02:19] <aamer> bjsnider I was just thinking there's a conflict between them regarding handling the type of session
[02:19] <bjsnider> emerald is dead i think
[02:19] <bjsnider> compiz is on the table with no pulse
[02:19] <bjsnider> i dunno about cairo-dock
[02:20] <bjsnider> but this is such old stuff maybe it would be better to use an old distro like lucid or hardy
[02:22] <aamer> u know I decided to use the unity panel and dash along with compiz and emerald, I think I'm giving up cairo dock.
[02:23] <aamer> bjsnider they won't die until someone else brings the same beautiful stuff, and I think nobody will
[02:24] <bjsnider> i'm fully satisfied with adwaita/mutter
[02:25] <aamer> especially compiz, it's amazing, and the latest version has a compatibility plugin for unity so the guys are working
[02:25] <aamer> did u c my desktop?
[02:26] <bjsnider> i tried compiz for a while back in the bush years, and i decided it was pure nonsense
[02:26] <bjsnider> it's glitter
[02:26] <bjsnider> no substance
[02:26] <aamer> there's an emerald theme called professional I just changed the font of the title bar, returned it to ubuntu 11 which i think is very beautiful,
[02:27] <bjsnider> emerald is the least comprehensible eye candy. it's just the window borders. i care about what's inside the windows, not their borders
[02:32] <SonikkuAmerica> I'd say GNOME is enough eye-candy unto itself
[02:45] <aamer> well that depends on how ur eyes r into candy :)
[03:29] <|kira> Heyy, I'm wondering is 13.04 is stable enough for workstation use.
[06:19] <Sz48> Hi everyone
[06:19] <Sz48> Hi everyone
[06:21] <Sz48> I have an issue within ubuntu 13.04 after I installed GNOME 3 Desktop...there's someone who can help me to check why epipany is taking the accounts from the previous Desktop Environment (UNITY) instead of the GNOME ONLINE ACCOUNTS?
[13:17] <jbicha> darkxst: I think we should drop gnome-media (provides gnome-sound-recorder which looks broken here)
[13:17] <jbicha> and tracker-gui (provides a search app and a search preferences app) - I think GNOME Shell's search & Nautilus mostly fill that need
[13:19] <Munchor> jbicha: tracker-gui has gnome-search-tool?
[13:19] <jbicha> yes
[14:08] <erle-> http://www.titanic-magazin.de/uploads/pics/Zuschlagen.jpg
[14:12] <SonikkuAmerica> !de | erle-
[14:15] <erle-> SonikkuAmerica, i know, it was a misplacement
[14:15] <erle-> its only satire, so never mind
[14:16] <erle-> somebody found "arabic chopped pork" in a grocery's advertisement
[14:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Oh how ironic.
[20:44] <SonikkuAmerica> jbicha: I'm all set to test; just have to wait for the ISOs to download.
[21:52] <darkxst> jbicha, yeh gnome-media seems kind of pointless
[21:54] <jbicha> seb128 wants a Sound Recorder app in the default Ubuntu install but I don't see much need for it
[21:54] <darkxst> tracker-gui preferences is useful, but hardly needs to in default install
[22:04] <darkxst> jbicha, I am sure the few people who want to record sound can find something in USC :)
[23:03] <jbicha> I think my trouble logging into Unity earlier was fallout from gnome-menus being a bit broken; that should be cleaned up now
[23:06] <bjsnider> i asked cosimoc awhile back why sushi windows would bounce around before arriving at the center of the screen when they appear. he said it had something to do with the borked way gtk calculates screen positioning. that was a couple of cycles ago and it still isn't fixed
[23:06] <bjsnider> still bounces around until it gets to the center