[02:10] <genii> This person who keeps dropping the last character off the end of commands is starting to annoy me
[02:11]  * genii thinks about !prayer and recomposes
[02:48] <elky> since daftykins is insisting on trying to undermine everything i say in -ot, could someone else help me stop this deviation into suicide discussion?
[02:48] <elky> s/discussion/incitement/
[02:49] <elky> or whatever hateball is trying to do
[02:50] <elky> thanks
[02:51] <IdleOne> Don't know how much it helped but I tried.
 http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop      thats a new one
[15:35] <bazhang> nor will dist-upgrade  I wonder why so many people get that wrong
[15:42] <LjL> because the name seems self-descriptive?
[15:43] <bazhang> wonder if thats a debian thing, or some other distro
[15:43] <LjL> it's Debian but it doesn't "upgrade to a new version" on Debian either. it's simply *meant* as a smarter way than simple "upgrade" for when you're doing some big upgrades that shuffle packages around, such as a release upgrade
[15:44] <LjL> so yes it's meant for dist upgrades, no it doesn't actually perform dist upgrades unless you change sources.list first
[15:44] <DJones> To me Update gives the idea that it updates software already installed, Upgrade suggests upgrading to a new version
[15:44] <bazhang> debian still relies on aptitude full-upgrade if memory serves
[15:45] <bazhang> yeah fedora has that
[15:45] <bazhang> !yum
[20:12] <Seveas> hey
[20:12] <Seveas> it's troll feeding time in -offtopic
[20:12] <Seveas> if feeding time is over, a kick wouldn't be too bad I think
[20:13] <Seveas> nevermind, he left
[20:18] <DJones> Hmmh, I think Seveas should be given the job of dealing with HFSPlus next time he trolls
[20:49] <lotuspsychje> hi i have a little request
[20:50] <lotuspsychje> i know the policy is not a trigger for everything, but a triiger for 'additional drivers' in #ubuntu would be very handy
[20:50] <lotuspsychje> as most users never check that section
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[20:55] <genii> Hm. http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi doesn't seem to like two word searches. Like for: additional drivers    ...for instance
[21:01] <Unit193> There doesn't seem to be anything and Jockey also isn't listed.  Did you know you could pull it up with software-properties-gtk --open-tab=4 ?  Though, it's far less useful than it used to be.
[21:49] <LjL> DJones: i'm pretty sure Seveas has dealt with HFSPlus a lot in the past