[02:10] This person who keeps dropping the last character off the end of commands is starting to annoy me [02:11] * genii thinks about !prayer and recomposes [02:48] since daftykins is insisting on trying to undermine everything i say in -ot, could someone else help me stop this deviation into suicide discussion? [02:48] s/discussion/incitement/ [02:49] or whatever hateball is trying to do [02:50] thanks [02:51] Don't know how much it helped but I tried. [08:51] http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop thats a new one === msy is now known as yano [15:35] nor will dist-upgrade I wonder why so many people get that wrong [15:42] because the name seems self-descriptive? [15:43] wonder if thats a debian thing, or some other distro [15:43] it's Debian but it doesn't "upgrade to a new version" on Debian either. it's simply *meant* as a smarter way than simple "upgrade" for when you're doing some big upgrades that shuffle packages around, such as a release upgrade [15:44] so yes it's meant for dist upgrades, no it doesn't actually perform dist upgrades unless you change sources.list first [15:44] To me Update gives the idea that it updates software already installed, Upgrade suggests upgrading to a new version [15:44] debian still relies on aptitude full-upgrade if memory serves [15:45] yeah fedora has that [15:45] !yum [15:45] Uh, don't you mean !apt ? === ubottu is now known as 17SAC2T0E === 17SAC2T0E is now known as ubottu === ubottu is now known as 17SAC2T0E === 17SAC2T0E is now known as ubottu === ubottu is now known as 17SAC2T0E === 17SAC2T0E is now known as ubottu [20:12] hey [20:12] it's troll feeding time in -offtopic [20:12] if feeding time is over, a kick wouldn't be too bad I think [20:13] nevermind, he left [20:18] Hmmh, I think Seveas should be given the job of dealing with HFSPlus next time he trolls [20:49] hi i have a little request [20:50] i know the policy is not a trigger for everything, but a triiger for 'additional drivers' in #ubuntu would be very handy [20:50] as most users never check that section [20:51] tnx [20:55] Hm. http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi doesn't seem to like two word searches. Like for: additional drivers ...for instance [21:01] There doesn't seem to be anything and Jockey also isn't listed. Did you know you could pull it up with software-properties-gtk --open-tab=4 ? Though, it's far less useful than it used to be. === PriceChild is now known as Pricey [21:49] DJones: i'm pretty sure Seveas has dealt with HFSPlus a lot in the past