[02:18] smartboyhw, !?! [02:18] balloons: Finished exam, hi! [02:19] smartboyhw, \o [02:19] Hey SergioMeneses [02:19] wonderful.. welcome back! [02:19] Seems like I lost yesterday's hackfest eh? [02:21] smartboyhw, hi! how's everything? [02:21] smartboyhw, yes, you did [02:22] SergioMeneses: Meh [02:42] smartboyhw, I'm off for the evening, but you can still hack my friend [02:42] I hope everything is going well with you.. Jackson has been missing you :-) [02:43] good night [02:43] balloons: lol at Noskcaj. GN. [02:53] jajaja [04:04] Good morning [06:14] good afternoon elfy [06:15] hi Noskcaj [06:24] elfy, FYI: The manual testcase format has changed slightly. it's now worded
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[06:25] I know [06:25] just checking === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch === mmrazik|lunch is now known as mmrazik === mzanetti is now known as mzanetti|lunch === mzanetti|lunch is now known as mzanetti === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:06] wb SergioMeneses [13:07] smartboyhw, hi! Im arriving at office jeje [13:07] and what about you smartboyhw ? [13:10] hi SergioMeneses [13:14] elfy, hi [13:20] SergioMeneses: I've almost finished the thunar test - got a couple of little ones to do - do you want some help with the gnumeric one? if you do - you got some idea of how we can work on the same thing? [13:21] or at least close enough to finish to let someone look ... [13:22] elfy, I spent these days working on Audaity testcase, if you want to help with Gumeric, I dont have any problem ;) feel free and I would give you a hand later... I expect to finish Audacity test this week [13:22] ok - so you've not actually started it yet? [13:22] just so I know :) [13:23] elfy, no I dont :S [13:23] ok - that's cool - didn't want to redo anything :) [13:23] lol [13:24] but elfy do you know audacity? I'll need some reviews later [13:24] I looked at it a while ago - but for specific reasons - I can look [13:25] that's something I need to talk to balloons about - perms to merge stuff [13:32] elfy: What's your idea for the perms? [13:34] nothing to worry yourslef about smartboyhw [13:44] lol [13:46] jaja [14:08] elfy: I haven't written testcases for a long time, but aren't testcase names supposed to be set for every
element? [14:08] who said that? [14:08] where does it say that even? [14:09] elfy: In the testcases??? [14:09] where? [14:09] where is that requirement documented? [14:11] elfy: I dunno, but it is just as usual, like in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testcase/ubuntu-manual-tests/trunk/view/head:/testcases/packages/1422_Gnome%20Terminal%20Tests [14:11] meh [14:11] none that I've done have been like that and have all been merged [14:12] if it NEEDS to be like that then it should be documented as such and not left to people to guess [14:12] Hmm, balloons needs to set the standard… [14:13] and to be frank - the chances of me even looking at an ubuntu testcase are pretty much zero ;) [14:13] ROFL [14:13] True [14:14] phillw: Any ideas? ^ [14:14] I have no interest in them at all at the moment - there are at the moment, 32 ones that affect Xubuntu - guess which I'll look at :) === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [14:41] smartboyhw_, elfy most of those testcase names you see are from the old style testcases [14:42] and yes many new cases have been merged with them, but so have many been merged without :-) It's not a requirement at this point [14:42] balloons: ACK sure;) [14:45] balloons: when you've got 10 minutes can you ping me in PM - no rush, I assume you're filling up with caffeine ... [14:47] balloons: How did Noskcaj think when many people criticized his mod? (I like it) [14:49] elfy, I saw the change on the bug! thanks for helping ;) [14:49] that's ok - thought if I assigned me I'd get on and do it :D [14:50] elfy, perfect [14:50] SergioMeneses: how much detail did you anticipate for the test ? [14:50] I tend to overdo it perhaps :) [14:50] elfy, all application [14:51] do you work only on parts? [14:51] no - I'd be going through every menu item [14:51] smartboyhw_, I'm not sure I was gone when it happened also [14:52] balloons: Eh… [14:52] elfy, but it depends, now Audacity has a big interface so Im working on all [14:52] Well, at least Noskcaj got on to OMG!Ubuntu faster than most of us here… [14:53] SergioMeneses: yep understood [14:53] balloons: You should sponsor him a bit;P [14:53] smartboyhw_: if I ever get on OMGwtf I will be gone [14:53] elfy, ;) these weekend audacity testcase will be available :) [14:53] elfy: LOL [14:53] ok - well weekend I'm in and out - but next week I'm not working till Thursday [14:56] elfy: Speaking about that, jcastro wanted to reinvent the Forums, what will you guys do? [14:56] you just don't stop do you [14:56] this is the ubuntu quality channel [14:58] lol, I thin k smartboyhw_ is pretty bottled up elfy being gone so long [14:58] play nice in the quality sandbox smartboyhw_ :-) [14:59] lol [14:59] … [14:59] smartboyhw_, I'm only teasing you! [14:59] * smartboyhw_ kicks balloons in his butt. [14:59] I am so glad your back again [14:59] but yes, things change fast around here don't they? [14:59] balloons: Yep === salem_ is now known as _salem [15:29] sosen, mache mich vom acker, wünsche n schoenes we :] [15:37] balloons: he he he - so release schedule has been changed - so cadence schedule is now wrong :p [15:37] elfy, I figured [15:37] I didn't get a notice it changed [15:38] I just got one [15:38] it's been updated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule [15:38] yep [15:39] I'm going to juggle our schedule now [15:40] good luck [15:40] but regardless need to get things setup for next week [15:40] yea [15:48] balloons: What will the cadence week include? [15:48] smartboyhw_, everything, remember? [15:49] balloons: Ah yeah:P [15:49] I'm going to add all the default ubuntu apps.. then folks like elfy can put out stuff for xubuntu default as well, and so on [15:49] phillw: So both alphas for you guys now? [15:49] phillw, can add lubuntu === balloons changed the topic of #ubuntu-quality to: Welcome to Ubuntu Quality | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam === balloons changed the topic of #ubuntu-quality to: Welcome to Ubuntu Quality | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam | Cadence Week 1 starts June 15th! | Cadence Week Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Cadence/Saucy [17:03] lunch time... see ya [17:03] enjoy SergioMeneses === _salem is now known as salem_ [17:52] balloons: my test case https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-filemanager-app/fix1188732-test_open_directory/+merge/169340 [17:53] elopio, cool.. everything worked out then? [17:53] balloons: yes. On saucy I can inspect the tree [17:53] and with your change on the emulator, now I can click the button. [17:54] elopio, heh.. imagine that. [17:54] so something is broken on raring.. did we get a bug filed for it, or could no-one else confirm on raring it was an issue? [17:55] balloons: I think I'm the only one running raring :) [17:55] I can fire up a vm and try to reproduce it there. [17:55] yea.. I just don't want it to slide under the radar as a potential bug [18:05] balloons: while I'm reminded, when I boot I get this " systemd-udevd[337]: NAME="autopilot-uinput" ignored, kernel device nodes can not be renamed; please fix it in /lib/udev/rules.d/61-autopilot-uinput.rules:2" [18:05] not done anything about it other than put the kettle on when I reboot [18:05] elfy, yes than that's a known issue [18:05] let me find it.. won't hurt anything :-) [18:06] https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1188824 [18:06] Launchpad bug 1188824 in Autopilot "/dev/autopilot-uinput and udev rules files does not exist" [High,Confirmed] [18:38] balloons: ok - thanks :) [19:29] hey Noskcaj [19:29] hello balloons [19:29] you have merges waiting [19:29] I know it! I'm trying to get cadence week setup done [19:30] balloons, that could be difficult [19:31] Noskcaj, what do you mean? [19:32] don't you have to update a heap of wiki pages too, or is it just send an email? [19:34] also, you have a new tester email [19:34] Noskcaj, heap of wiki pages? [19:34] ohh.. right, yea all those, heh.. under the new system we won't need a wiki page for each week [19:35] ok [20:38] Hi all [20:39] i have a question [20:40] The cadence week 1 will start tommorow and i need to know can i test iso images with "test drive" or need to install on real machine? [20:46] hi guys i neeed to know if i would still be able to test on lubuntu cause i have an oldlaptop [20:46] write some specs [20:46] casue i wanna do iso and cadence weeek [20:47] can i just show you the hp link with computer specs? [20:47] Skini151, you can do cadence testing with just an iso if you wish [20:48] it's easier if you have a full install that your using (it can even be a VM) but you can test in a live session [20:48] like guys i love ubuntu trust me its like my lvoe [20:48] but my unity is SLOWWWW [20:48] here are my specs [20:48] http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c02618765 [20:48] samgabbay, you can test on any flavor you wish :-) [20:48] YAY [20:48] but tell me [20:48] it's rare for a bug to only affect a flavor, but it does happen [20:49] can i get like unity 2d [20:49] cause lookk at my specs [20:49] http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c02618765 [20:49] 12.04 was the last unity 2d [20:49] ik [20:50] but can i have it on 13.04 [20:50] cause i wanna keep ubuntu [20:50] sadly no [20:50] but just cause i have a really old low spec poop pc [20:50] and my school pc is with windows 7 and UBUNTU CERTIFIED [20:50] but i wanna keep this bud running i just want it to go faster [20:50] can you take a look? [20:50] http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c02618765 [20:51] balloons, .. [20:51] i install lubuntu on netbook with old processor with only 1.0 GHZ and 512 Ram with only 4 GB hard drive and it works good [20:51] Skini151, but did you try testing and all? [20:52] you can do live session test [20:52] how do i do that [20:52] like what i mean is for cadence [20:52] and the future [20:52] samgabbay, Skini151 let me link you to the tutorial [20:52] ok [20:52] sweeet [20:52] :) [20:52] thank you soo much guys [20:52] you the BOSS [20:52] i cant wait FOR CADENCE [20:53] seperatly il put ubuntu alongside [20:53] on a vbox [20:53] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cadence/Walkthrough [20:53] just like my xp [20:53] so that i still have my best friend [20:53] it explains how to do it with an installed version or a livecd [20:53] <3 ubuntu <3 [20:53] wait [20:53] any of you guys not running ubuntu like another distro? [20:54] yes [20:54] whhat are you running? [20:54] only UBUNTU [20:54] lubuntu kubuntu ? [20:54] xubuntu [20:54] oh [20:54] and is it tha same? [20:54] than ubuntu [20:54] nope [20:55] oh [20:55] 0.o [20:55] uses xfce [20:55] what does it do? [20:55] ? [20:55] Another desktop environment [20:55] wait a sec [20:56] huh [20:56] rofl [20:56] Skini151: not just that - uses some different apps [20:56] read this for more info [20:56] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment [20:56] by default yes [20:56] is there software center? [20:56] like guys [20:56] look [20:56] heres my issue [20:56] but you can insyall another apps if you want [20:56] i love ubuntu but my pc is just old [20:56] and i badly wanna keep it fast and all [20:57] but first ati isint supported for mobility radeon:( [20:57] and yea [20:57] so i need you guys to tell me what i should use instead [20:57] balloons: thanks for your help with those perms - have a good weekend - I'm off now [20:58] any suggestions? (that will still let me test no matter :)) [20:58] use every flavour [20:58] samgabbay, use xubuntu [20:58] or lubuntu [20:58] whats faster?\ [20:58] balloons, you have more serges [20:58] xubuntu or lu [20:58] and choose one that suite you more [20:58] samgabbay, similar [20:58] so there both the same? [20:58] !enter | samgabbay [20:58] samgabbay: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [20:59] !bot what the f*** [20:59] samgabbay: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [20:59] they use low memory than other [20:59] samgabbay: xubuntu won't be doing cadence week 1 [20:59] balloons, *merges [20:59] Skini151, witch one do you recommend mostly for cadence and all [20:59] elfy, oh like if i have to test do i put it on a vm? [20:59] yes lubuntu and xubuntu are both good choices to run if you need a low-memory machine [20:59] samgabbay, if you're running VMs in it, either. [20:59] the only testing you can't do is on unity [21:00] you can install and run all the other apps and test them just fine [21:00] balloons, i ussually just do like iso testing [21:00] mostly [21:00] why are you fixating on cadence - testing needs to go on between now and release :) [21:00] and ask ubuntu assistance [21:00] cause i love CADENCE <3 [21:00] xubuntu always needs testers [21:00] right - well I tend not to love things that I can't actually touch ;) [21:00] anyway - night all [21:00] g'night elfy [21:00] Good night [21:01] ROFL [21:01] night! [21:01] meh i just want a faster linux ubuntu distro [21:01] samgabbay, calm down, install xubuntu and then run tests in a VM [21:01] nosk [21:01] mostly the calm down bit [21:01] alright [21:01] :) [21:01] im sorry [21:01] loook i feeel in pure love with ubuntu i use it 24/7 i answer question i install it on other machines im literally adicted [21:02] no joek [21:02] lol [21:02] no worries, no worries.. :-) [21:02] i just love it and im gonna cry if i leave ubuntu [21:02] :( [21:02] not cry but you see [21:02] hurt feeelings rofl its my new windows [21:03] just try xubuntu [21:04] i have to go, my parents don't want me on the PC [21:04] night Noskcaj [21:04] lol [21:04] G N! [21:04] enjoy your weekend Noskcaj [21:05] balloons, will do, i'll have a big update for my case mod today, watch planet.ubuntu [21:06] Noskcaj, excellent! I like your style on cases [21:06] :) [21:06] far too many people though that the sketchup was my final plan [21:07] yea, that's ok.. when you finish it completely you'll have to get that post published round [21:07] what post? [21:08] give me link [21:08] Skini151, noskcaj10.wordpress.com [21:09] nice blog [21:09] btw guys do i have to remove ubuntu or can i have just the xubuntu-desktop package installed [21:10] samgabbay, take your pick, you can also dual-boot them [21:10] ohh i understand [21:10] the case [21:10] cool [21:10] samgabbay, just add xubuntu-desktop if your ok with having both [21:10] you can then boot into etheir one [21:10] Skini151, thanks. i'll make a poll to choose what case i mod later today [21:10] i wouldnt mind but will it be same speed?? [21:11] it will be a cool thing if case change color [21:11] samgabbay, pretty much [21:11] shouldn't have any real effect on performance [21:11] Skini151, i might use RGB LEDs [21:11] balloons, alright sweet il get to it [21:13] Noskcaj, i can say just GOOD LUCK , if i can support you somehow just say [21:13] balloons: I think I have something nice with the emulator [21:13] let me upload it. [21:14] elopio, ohh.. [21:14] * balloons waits! [21:14] Skini151, i wanted to get a crowdfunding thing, but being 14 made problems [21:14] alright guys i got one last question would i be able to acess my ubuntu files on xubuntu [21:14] balloons: https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-filemanager-app/ubuntusdk_emulator/+merge/169542 [21:15] Noskcaj, find a tutor [21:15] samgabbay, yes [21:15] Skini151, what do you mean? [21:15] swwweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet [21:15] balloons: let me know what do you think. And you can also hate it, don't worry :) [21:15] samgabbay, think of xubuntu as a re-skinned ubuntu [21:15] SWEET omg [21:15] :) [21:15] cant wait [21:16] samgabbay, remember you can test whenever, not just candence [21:16] ik [21:16] i test iso [21:16] dont worrry [21:16] i do tuns [21:16] :P [21:16] and mostly answer on askubuntu [21:17] !enter | samgabbay [21:17] samgabbay: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [21:17] !ubot u mind? [21:17] :P [21:17] *facepalm* [21:17] !botsnack [21:17] Yum! Err, I mean, APT! [21:18] !ubot5 OH HELL NO [21:18] samgabbay: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [21:18] it scrolls the conversation and makes it very hard to read. [21:18] dont start with me bot -_- [21:18] samgabbay, stop arguing with the bot. also, you seem to be trying very hard to prove that age doesn't equal maturity (i'm younger than you) [21:19] * Noskcaj needs food, will be back soon [21:19] how old are ya? and im a fun person too man [21:20] samgabbay use "," instead of "Enter" [21:20] , [21:20] * Noskcaj facepalms again [21:20] samgabbay, 14 [21:21] ok?, im just a fun person too man i joke around just chill :) [21:21] Guys, im done installing the desktop packedge do i reboot|? [21:21] Noskcaj, you use test drive or install iso images on actual machine [21:22] i guess its a yes alright guys be right back [21:22] ok [21:23] Skini151, you can [21:23] oops [21:23] :) [21:24] i read the question wrong. i don't have any real hardware i can test on, i use testdrive [21:24] i used to have a ibook as well, but it broke [21:26] Noskcaj,will be the results on VM the same in real machine [21:26] guys [21:26] Skini151, most of the time [21:26] oops [21:26] samgabbay, yeah? [21:26] Now, i keep getting crash issues [21:26] samgabbay, report lots of bugs, that's our job [21:27] yep [21:27] like i just got xubuntu it says jockey-common 0.9.7-0ubuntu13 [21:27] and another one [21:27] oh my goodness [21:27] jockey is tool that install aditional drivers [21:28] Everytime i click cancel the pop up comes back [21:28] it stopped [21:29] you're testing now>? [21:29] no installing xubuntu=done [21:30] read some forums if you have problems or try google, or askubuntu if you have some bugs [21:31] dude i think i know why im getting crash, due to ubuntu packedges [21:31] ? [21:31] yea cause i have java and all [21:31] so its probably porting them [21:33] ok , i i'm off [21:33] G.night! [21:33] baii [21:34] same [21:34] baiiii [21:40] elopio, I kept waiting and waiting lol [21:40] I see your message now above [21:40] balloons: :) [21:41] nice.. but you dropped a few functions [21:42] ohh yes maindWindow looks better [21:42] i would really like to cleanup __init__.py a bit more [21:42] moving more of that out somehow [21:44] balloons: I just wanted to show it to you, so I stripped all the things I can't test here. [21:44] elopio, so yea overall I think it's an improvemtn [21:44] you combined it up a bit nicer [21:45] balloons: it's not yet usable, because of bug #1191164 [21:45] bug 1191164 in Autopilot "Can't access the properties of a custom emulator" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1191164 === salem_ is now known as _salem [21:45] elopio, hmm.. [21:45] I found a workaround for my case, but not a real solution. So we'll have to wait for thomi or veebers or somebody that understands about this. [21:46] right that makes sense.. I like the experimentation [21:46] balloons, If you have time, can you approve a few of my manual tests [21:46] people are going to be able to take this further than I can [21:46] Noskcaj10, it will be tomorrow.. I'm finishing the cadence week 1 stuff [21:46] then I'll merge your new stuff.. I discovered a problem with my syncing, so i'm holding off [21:47] ok, hopefully howard will be back some time today. i found a problem with us helping testdrive tough [21:48] and that's all the autopilot I can do for this week, I'll switch context now. [21:49] see you next week qa community. [21:51] good bye elopio [21:53] enjoy your weekend elopio !