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om26ergm06:57
Saviqom26er, hey, you asked yesterday where can you get the latest unity8 builds (and then said this was the wrong channel :D)07:06
Saviqom26er, it's the right channel, and the latest published builds are at ppa:phablet-team07:07
Saviqom26er, and we'll move to daily builds soon-ish07:07
om26erSaviq, sorry was on a call, that ppa does not seem to have unity8 at all07:28
Saviqom26er, https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=unity8&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=07:28
om26eror maybe it has qml-phone-shell but the saucy version have not updated for a while07:28
Saviqom26er, but yeah, it's a week old or so, we'll be releasing today07:29
Saviqom26er, since we're releasing manually we need to remember to put a changelog entry at some point, and we haven't been great at it07:29
Saviqfginther, ping08:05
nic-doffaySaviq, could we land that sdk branch soon? Just did a final push to it after adding documentation and doing a check.08:27
Saviqnic-doffay, not my call :)08:27
Saviqnic-doffay, someone from the sdk team should re-review / approve08:28
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Saviqseb128, my turn... we have, until now, used a unity and libunity branches that were bumped to version 7.80 so that we're always newer than distro10:28
Saviqseb128, and now we want to get rid of those10:28
Saviqseb128, is there something we could do in debian/control of unity8 to Conflict / Break / Depend so that upgrading unity8 would force downgrading of the other packages?10:30
seb128no10:30
seb128the package management is not made for downgrades10:30
seb128you need the distro version bumped over the version you were using or to use an epoch (add a "1:" on start of the version, which means what follows is higher that the version that didn't have the 1:)10:32
seb128but you can't really automagically fix upgrades for the users who got those versions out of doing that version/epoch bump on the packages that need to be "downgraded"10:32
Mirvseb128: yes I heard, but I actually checked later in the morning that unlike the last time, the files are actually still there10:35
Mirvso I'm not sure what's the issue10:36
mhr3Saviq, you can be heard swearing even in london :P10:36
Mirvseb128: for example, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+sourcepub/3234004/+listing-archive-extra - the files are still all there (unlike for example for 13.05.23 snapshot), but it does say "removed from disk" at the top only 5 days after the build10:37
Mirvseb128: how it looked for the 13.05.08 when those failed earlier was https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+sourcepub/3214532/+listing-archive-extra - no files at all10:37
Mirvsil2100: I e-mailed Ken, and Mathieu about the SRU (since they're listed on the task in addition), cc:ing didier, I can forward that to you too10:38
Saviqmhr3, I'll just ignore it and tell people to upgrade their image :P10:38
seb128Mirv, yes please, did you talk to infinity on #ubuntu-release?10:38
Mirvseb128: I also made a backup of the .31 releases on Wednesday to https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/sru/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=raring manually (except for bamf which should be called ubuntu1 and was already reuploaded but also rejected for some reason)10:38
Mirvseb128: in PM10:39
seb128ok10:39
Mirvbut he's sleeping now10:39
seb128well, as long as it's handled10:39
Saviqseb128, so to downgrade they'd have to explicitly say which versions to use?10:39
seb128Saviq, yes, like sudo apt-get install unity=7.0.0-0ubuntu310:39
sil2100Mirv: please, if you can, since today I'm a bit too busy, but I'd like to be up-to-date while you're gone ;)10:39
seb128or unity/saucy10:39
Mirvseb128: I can see that reuploading the 6 other packages to the queue would be in order, on Monday when Didier's back with his upload rights10:39
Saviqseb128, good enough!10:40
seb128Mirv, aren't those uploads just done by jenkins?10:40
seb128Saviq, great ;-)10:40
Mirvsil2100: forwarded10:40
Mirvseb128: yes, but we can't reupload / ask for syncs for superseded packages, and we'd again need to review all the packages for the changes 13.05.31 -> 13.06.14. no problem otherwise, but we'd have the 13.05.31 packages ready to go similar to 13.05.08 earlier10:41
sil2100Mirv: thanks!10:41
seb128Mirv, ok, that makes sense10:41
Mirvand then jenkins would do the sync request for the new reviewed packages, they'd be in queue and expire again :)10:41
Mirvso even if these rejections were done needlessly (the files are still there), we can't redo the requests anyway so they're gone10:42
Mirvfor the next SRU sync request, before SRU team rejecting it, it should be looked how the files that have not expired can be fetched10:43
tsdgeosSaviq: ci failed because of  #include <UnityCore/Lens.h> ?¿10:48
Saviqtsdgeos, yes10:48
Saviqtsdgeos, sorry, we're switching to smart scopes10:48
tsdgeosok :-)10:48
Saviqtsdgeos, have to break some CI in the process10:48
* tsdgeos ignores CI for a while and goes back to writing tests10:49
* greyback getting good at using nmcli to manage his wifi10:55
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CimiSaviq, you think it makes sense to have Event as a separate component (like the calendar) I import in the menuitem?11:05
SaviqCimi, I believe so11:05
SaviqCimi, calendar is a separate component than an event, IMO11:05
CimiSaviq, I was unclear11:08
CimiSaviq, I meant, some menuitems contain all the code inside a Qml file11:08
CimiSaviq, currently CalendarMenu and EventMenu11:08
Cimiimport a separate component11:08
CimiCalendar will be separate, wondering if Event will have to be separate as well11:09
CimiI moved in back, less code11:18
Cimi(Event is merged in EventMenu)11:19
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greybackCan someone confirm the version number of android-tools-adb package. I have 4.2.2+git20130218-3ubuntu811:27
Mirvgreyback: seems to be the same as I have11:27
Mirvon saucy, ubuntu811:28
greybackMirv: thanks.11:36
greybackadb is not working for me for some reason11:37
Mirvgreyback: in which way? works here.11:44
Mirvgreyback: what does adb devices give?11:44
greybackMirv: a device ?????????. Let me reboot before I trouble shoot further, as my install is royally f**ked right now11:44
Mirvgreyback: ???? usually means incorrect permissions11:44
greybackMirv: bbiab11:45
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nic-doffaySaviq, having issues running on device again: https://pastebin.canonical.com/92818/12:18
nic-doffayNo idea why these packages can't be found.12:18
Saviqnic-doffay, we might be at fault here, we're trying to get the smart scopes going in CI and everything12:19
Saviqnic-doffay, but you should have this package already, unless you flashed recently?12:19
nic-doffaySaviq, I did flash recently.12:20
Saviqnic-doffay, you can download the packages from https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/3244988/+listing-archive-extra12:21
Saviqnic-doffay, and install manually on the device12:21
Saviqnic-doffay, https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+files/libdee-qt5-dev_3.0phablet2%7Esaucy1_armhf.deb12:21
Saviqnic-doffay, https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+files/libqtdee3_3.0phablet2%7Esaucy1_armhf.deb12:21
Saviqnic-doffay, https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+files/qtdeclarative5-dee-plugin_3.0phablet2%7Esaucy1_armhf.deb12:22
nic-doffaySaviq, ta12:22
Saviqnic-doffay, just put them on the device and "dpkg -i *deb" should be enough12:22
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nic-doffaySaviq, still some other missing packages apparently.13:00
Saviqnic-doffay, full log from ./run_on_device -s please?13:01
nic-doffaySaviq, https://pastebin.canonical.com/92822/13:02
Saviqnic-doffay, dpkg -r libqtdee313:03
Saviqnic-doffay, apt-get -f install13:03
Saviqnic-doffay, should help13:03
nic-doffaySaviq, it's just unity-core-6.0 that isn't found now.13:07
Saviqnic-doffay, sorry, you need https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+files/libunity-dev_7.80%7Ephablet3_armhf.deb and https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+files/libunity-core-6.0-dev_7.81%7Ephablet2_armhf.deb too13:09
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greybackdandrader: yesterday you couldn't mumble because your sound devices were missing in saucy, right?13:12
dandradergreyback, yes, so I'm using my laptop that runs raring13:13
dandraderfor mumble13:14
greybackdandrader: so you've no tips for me to fix it :) Oh well, I'll keep digging13:14
dandradergreyback, no. keep me posted. :) I think it will eventually work after some kernel update13:14
seb128mterry, hey, what's the status of https://launchpad.net/bugs/1155157 ? it's in the sponsoring queue, did you hold on upload waiting for some extra testing (from who?)?13:20
fgintherSaviq, pong13:20
ubot5Launchpad bug 1155157 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu Precise) "[FFe] Allow custom indicators" [Wishlist,Triaged]13:20
nic-doffaySaviq, still bust sadly.13:21
tedgsil2100, So it seems that the indicator stack didn't release...  what's the current issue?13:21
Saviqfginther, mzanetti briefed you already13:21
mzanettisort of13:21
mzanettifginther: but I lost track a bit myself...13:21
mterryseb128, someone else was working on uploading it, so I didn't.  /me is looking in mail for who13:22
mzanettifginther: well, I have updated your job config so it runs. there is one "#TODO preinstall this stuff in the VM"13:22
mzanettifginther: on the issues with unity8... I leave explanation to Saviq13:22
fginthermzanetti, ok, I was a bit baffled by the dependency issues13:23
mzanettifginther: yeah... its a bit of a mess... it doesn't work with the phablet-team/ppa but also doesn't work without it - at least thats my current understanding13:23
mzanettiSaviq will correct me if I'm wrong :D13:23
greybackdandrader: probably yeah, but I don't have backup machine, so I'll just have to miss the standup13:24
mterryseb128, jmp was working on it13:25
dandradergreyback, you could dual boot. but that's a bit of a hassle13:25
mzanettifginther: anyways, disregarding the issues we have with unity8, the mediumtests-runner-fginther job would work with the minimalistic VM's now13:25
Saviqmzanetti, kind of, yeah, but we should be able to enable phablet-team ppa now that I've dropped libunity and unity from it13:26
dandradergreyback, Otherwise I'm afraid we gonna miss your voice for quite some time13:26
dandrader:)13:26
sil2100tedg: eeh13:27
fginthermzanetti, so all you need installed in the VM are these : "recordmydesktop qmlscene ps-qa-tools xserver-xorg xinit x11-xserver-utils"?13:27
sil2100tedg: well, basically we can't safely release indicators without unity anyway13:27
sil2100tedg: so indicators is in daily-build, but unity still has issue, also due to hud13:27
mzanettifginther: yep. that seems to be it... and for qmlscene only because of a workaround we need...13:27
mzanettifginther: so I'm unsure if we should preinstall qmlscene or just install it in the workaround step13:28
mzanettitrying to save time the preinstallation would be good13:28
Saviqmzanetti, the potential remaining culprit is nux13:28
tedgsil2100, If unity fails, why can't we test indicators with the last released Unity?13:28
Saviqmzanetti, but let's make CI pass first and then we'll see if the packages work or not13:28
seb128mterry, ritz (who added the debdiff to the bug) work in jmp's team ... should I just sponsor the debdiff there?13:28
mzanettiSaviq: so I'll enable the phablet-team ppa back?13:29
Saviqmzanetti, not yet13:29
fginthermzanetti, I'll hold off a bit on updating the VMs13:29
tedgsil2100, Is this the same HUD thing with the BAMF errors?13:29
ritzseb123  which one is this ?13:29
Saviqmzanetti, let's make CI pass13:29
ritzseb128  which one is this ?13:29
Saviqmzanetti, for the new-libunity branch13:29
mzanettifginther: yes please. I'll update you again on status in an hour or so13:29
seb128ritz, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/115515713:29
ubot5Launchpad bug 1155157 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu Precise) "[FFe] Allow custom indicators" [Wishlist,Triaged]13:29
ritzaah, thanks :)13:29
fginthermzanetti, cool13:30
mterryseb128, yeah debdiff should be fine13:30
seb128mterry, thanks13:30
mterryseb128, I probably should have just uploaded a while ago, but mentally I was like "someone else is on it"13:31
seb128mterry, no worry, it's on its way to be uploaded which is what matters ;-)13:31
sil2100tedg: the same AP failures as before13:35
sil2100tedg: gedit save and app_activate_on_enter13:35
sil2100tedg: and the same thing - no HUD results for gedit it seems13:36
sil2100;/13:36
greybackdandrader: where can I get the repo for ubuntu-qtlocation-plugin ?13:55
greybackI think I'm gonna do a clean install over the weekend. Too many things are now broken, I'm fighting more with my install than getting work done13:55
nic-doffaySaviq, still having an issue with unity-core.13:57
Saviqnic-doffay, log please?13:57
dandradergreyback, searching...13:58
dandradergreyback, https://code.launchpad.net/~rocket-scientists/aal+/ubuntu-qtlocation-plugin14:01
greybackdandrader: thank you14:04
greybackdandrader: it's private still?14:04
nic-doffaySaviq, https://pastebin.canonical.com/92835/14:11
mzanettidandrader: hey, I just noticed (probably you know it already) that ever since we switched to the touch input stuff, scroll wheels are not working any more14:20
mzanettidandrader: not a bit deal right now... but if its easy to enable we probably could/should14:20
Saviqnic-doffay, you didn't remove libqtdee314:21
Saviqnic-doffay, what does "apt-get -f install" say?14:22
nic-doffaySaviq, I did.14:28
nic-doffayapt-get -f install doesn't install anything.14:29
Saviqnic-doffay, then you didn't install libunity-core-6.0-dev14:30
Saviqnic-doffay, https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+files/libunity-core-6.0-dev_7.81%7Ephablet2_armhf.deb14:31
dandradermzanetti, yeah, I know14:32
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tedgsil2100, I think this should help a bit, you should retry the stack when this lands: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/hud/active-window/+merge/16942914:41
tedgsil2100, I'm not sure it'll fix all the issues, but probably the gedit items.  Seems Unity changed it's startup of HUD and also a bunch of window names.14:42
sil2100tedg: excellent! Do you know why gedit was affected so much? Was it being invalidly blacklisted or something?14:43
tedgsil2100, No, HUD was getting started when the HUD dialog was up instead of before then.  So it was thinking the focused window was the HUD one, which was blacklisted.14:44
tedgsil2100, Before HUD would get started earlier, so it'd know about gedit.14:44
sil2100Ah, ok, makes sense, good catch14:44
sil2100The merger might take a while since there's a lot of merges pilled up14:44
sil2100Just hope it didn't hang up or anything...14:45
tedgK, mine is little though :-)14:45
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donobanhi, I've just installed Unity on OpenSuse 12.2 and have two problems15:34
donobanfirst I haven't top panel and notification area, need to do ctrl+space+backspace for log out :\15:35
donobanand second I've get an error trying to set up properly two monitor config15:36
donobanany idea?15:43
donobanI don't know even how debug it15:43
Saviqfginther, ping15:45
fgintherSaviq, pong15:45
dandraderSaviq, quick one. You might like it. https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity/8_directionEnum/+merge/16947215:55
Saviqdandrader, lol :D15:56
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sil2100tedg: hi!16:12
tedgHowdy sil210016:13
sil2100tedg: I re-ran the machinery for HUD and we still get those 2 gedit failures16:13
tedgsil2100, Really?16:13
tedgHmm, that's odd.16:13
sil2100No idea what's going wrong, since the same thing is happening, but I see it's using the latest package, so the fix should be in...16:13
tedgCan you give me the link that run?16:13
sil2100http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/113/16:14
sil2100Fresh and tasty, finished a few minutes ago ;)16:14
tedgsil2100, Can you grab ~/.cache/upstart/hud.log from that run?16:18
bregmahey all, I try to run Unity8 on my desktop and it errors immediately with a 'module "Ubuntu.Application" is not installed' error at line 18 in Shell.qml...  is there a package not in the dependency list that I need to install?16:20
dandraderbregma, did you use the "run" script?16:25
bregmano "run" script ships in the binary deb, and the one in the source tree apparently requires the build environemnt to be present16:25
dandraderbregma, check the CODING file in the root dir of unity816:26
dandraderbregma, if you follow the steps there it will "just work"16:26
dandraderbregma, the unity8 packages are meant for the phone. won't work on the desktop AFAIK16:27
sil2100tedg: one moment16:28
bregmadandrader, I am trying to make Unity8 work on the desktop, that's the point....  so do you know where the "Ubuntu.Application" comes from?16:29
dandraderbregma, qtubuntu16:29
dandraderbregma, you might have to write a Qt Platform Plugin for the Ubuntu Desktop...16:30
dandraderso that it fetches the write icons, for instance16:30
bregmasounds like fun, thanks for the pointer16:31
sil2100tedg: this will take a few minutes16:31
dandraderbregma, btw unity8 has a fake version of Ubuntu.Application (so that you can play around with unity8 on the desktop). you might want to have a look at it16:31
dandraderin the source tree16:32
tedgsil2100, Ah, okay.  Thanks!16:32
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* greyback eow16:42
sil2100tedg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5765294/16:53
sil2100tedg: sorry it took so long16:55
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s1ckHi! I have a problem - my gtk applications are looking crappy - I don't think they get themed anymore. How do I fix this?17:48
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MckbrotherHello together. I have some problems with my GTK Toolkit on 13.04 I think. I've reinstalled Ubuntu yesterday and now, every application which uses GTK looks very weird (old buttons, old icons, ...). Does anybody knows a solution hot to fix this?17:57
bschaefersil2100, hey, im not really sure about that crash you asked me to look into :(, i've not been able to reproduce it...17:58
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tedgsil2100, Thanks, getting back from lunch.18:05
tedgsil2100, No issue.18:05
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mterrymmrazik|afk, heyo.  Just a quick poke as a followup to that jenkins/gmail email subject bug.  I still have been getting the occasional email with the header "Re: [Merge] autolanding tests passed"18:09
bregma*huehuehue* now running Unity 8 as my default desktop on Saucy.... edge swipe is not so useful, it pops back in right away before I can touch any buttons in the launcher18:52
bregmaneeds work18:52
bregma:)18:52
mmrazik|afkmterry: oh...18:52
mmrazik|afkmterry: my bad18:52
mmrazik|afklet me reopen the bug18:52
mmrazik|afkfginther: if you have a sec (fixes the gmail conversations again): https://code.launchpad.net/~mrazik/jenkins-launchpad-plugin/lp1187002-take-2/+merge/16952419:06
mmrazik|afkthis time I've grep-ed the source code and get_vote_subject seems to be used everywhere19:06
dandraderbregma, wow. Are you emulating touch events?19:27
bregmanope, it's a touchscreen19:28
dandraderah, nice :)19:28
fginthermmrazik|afk, ack19:29
om26ermhall119, Yo! read what that guy have to say: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/ubuntu-touch-apps-arrive-on-ubuntu-desktop#comment-93084855120:03
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gotwigmhall119, hey ho, lets go :O21:59
gotwigI have a problem when using bigger fonts with the unity applications scope, in preview mode21:59
gotwigThe string for "Free Download" does get cut, in the German version22:00
gotwignow I asked to use instead of "Kostenlos Herunterladen" "Gratis Installieren", and asked the German translators to review it, but they said they are not going to apply this suggestion22:00
gotwig"Gratis Installieren" =  "Install Gratis"22:00
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mhall119gotwig-afk: is there room enough for them to just make the button bigger?22:42
gotwig-afkmhall119, I dont know, does Unity support this?22:44
gotwig-afkIMHO its sounds strange, at least in German. If users are not familiar with Ubuntu, they maybe could think, downloading is just the first step, installation another. I would go for "Install for free" or something like that, as the string for the button22:45
mhall119gotwig-afk: I don't know, but it should make a reasonable attempt to display the text properly22:46
gotwig-afkmhall119, do you think "Free Download" is a good string here?22:46
mhall119gotwig-afk: I don't have an opinion, but probably they want to keep it as close to the same meaning as possible across all languages22:47
gotwig-afkmhall119, In the software center it talks about "Installing" right?22:48
mhall119for libre apps it does22:48
mhall119for closed-source I think it says "buy"22:48
gotwig-afkmhall119, I am going to report a bug report, suggesting to just use "Install", like in the software center22:49
mhall119gotwig-afk: use the bug report to say that the german translation won't fit22:50
mhall119you can offer that as a suggestion, but it would likely require changing every language's strings to the equiv of "Install"22:50
gotwig-afkmhall119, I dont know if its just my stupid mind, but I think the string "Free Download" does not fit the purpose22:50
mhall119the Unity devs might just decide to allow more button space22:50
mhall119gotwig-afk: maybe so, but it's not something we can change in just the German translation22:51
gotwig-afkI know that are two different projects, but we could use the same strings from the software center button for "install"22:51
gotwig-afkmhall119, I am not even sure the size of the button can change. they are equivalent long, the first and the second one.22:52
gotwig-afkmhall119, https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#inbox/13f4145c136ec03622:52
gotwig-afklol ^^ I am sorry22:52
gotwig-afkhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-lens-applications/+bug/119086122:52
ubot5Launchpad bug 1190861 in unity-lens-applications "String "Kostenlos Herunterladen" should not get cut when using "Larger Fonts" in the System Settings" [Undecided,New]22:52
gotwig-afkmhall119, do you think it makes sense to report a bug, so maybe the string can be changed from "Free Download" to just "Install"?22:54
mhall119like I said, report that the german string doesn't fit, then offer that as a possible solution22:54
gotwig-afkmhall119, you see I already reported the German string thing, yesterday22:55
mhall119I would just comment on that then that Install would make it fit22:56

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