=== duflu_ is now known as duflu [06:57] gm [07:06] om26er, hey, you asked yesterday where can you get the latest unity8 builds (and then said this was the wrong channel :D) [07:07] om26er, it's the right channel, and the latest published builds are at ppa:phablet-team [07:07] om26er, and we'll move to daily builds soon-ish [07:28] Saviq, sorry was on a call, that ppa does not seem to have unity8 at all [07:28] om26er, https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=unity8&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= [07:28] or maybe it has qml-phone-shell but the saucy version have not updated for a while [07:29] om26er, but yeah, it's a week old or so, we'll be releasing today [07:29] om26er, since we're releasing manually we need to remember to put a changelog entry at some point, and we haven't been great at it [08:05] fginther, ping [08:27] Saviq, could we land that sdk branch soon? Just did a final push to it after adding documentation and doing a check. [08:27] nic-doffay, not my call :) [08:28] nic-doffay, someone from the sdk team should re-review / approve === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch [10:28] seb128, my turn... we have, until now, used a unity and libunity branches that were bumped to version 7.80 so that we're always newer than distro [10:28] seb128, and now we want to get rid of those [10:30] seb128, is there something we could do in debian/control of unity8 to Conflict / Break / Depend so that upgrading unity8 would force downgrading of the other packages? [10:30] no [10:30] the package management is not made for downgrades [10:32] you need the distro version bumped over the version you were using or to use an epoch (add a "1:" on start of the version, which means what follows is higher that the version that didn't have the 1:) [10:32] but you can't really automagically fix upgrades for the users who got those versions out of doing that version/epoch bump on the packages that need to be "downgraded" [10:35] seb128: yes I heard, but I actually checked later in the morning that unlike the last time, the files are actually still there [10:36] so I'm not sure what's the issue [10:36] Saviq, you can be heard swearing even in london :P [10:37] seb128: for example, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+sourcepub/3234004/+listing-archive-extra - the files are still all there (unlike for example for 13.05.23 snapshot), but it does say "removed from disk" at the top only 5 days after the build [10:37] seb128: how it looked for the 13.05.08 when those failed earlier was https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+sourcepub/3214532/+listing-archive-extra - no files at all [10:38] sil2100: I e-mailed Ken, and Mathieu about the SRU (since they're listed on the task in addition), cc:ing didier, I can forward that to you too [10:38] mhr3, I'll just ignore it and tell people to upgrade their image :P [10:38] Mirv, yes please, did you talk to infinity on #ubuntu-release? [10:38] seb128: I also made a backup of the .31 releases on Wednesday to https://launchpad.net/~unity-team/+archive/sru/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=raring manually (except for bamf which should be called ubuntu1 and was already reuploaded but also rejected for some reason) [10:39] seb128: in PM [10:39] ok [10:39] but he's sleeping now [10:39] well, as long as it's handled [10:39] seb128, so to downgrade they'd have to explicitly say which versions to use? [10:39] Saviq, yes, like sudo apt-get install unity=7.0.0-0ubuntu3 [10:39] Mirv: please, if you can, since today I'm a bit too busy, but I'd like to be up-to-date while you're gone ;) [10:39] or unity/saucy [10:39] seb128: I can see that reuploading the 6 other packages to the queue would be in order, on Monday when Didier's back with his upload rights [10:40] seb128, good enough! [10:40] Mirv, aren't those uploads just done by jenkins? [10:40] Saviq, great ;-) [10:40] sil2100: forwarded [10:41] seb128: yes, but we can't reupload / ask for syncs for superseded packages, and we'd again need to review all the packages for the changes 13.05.31 -> 13.06.14. no problem otherwise, but we'd have the 13.05.31 packages ready to go similar to 13.05.08 earlier [10:41] Mirv: thanks! [10:41] Mirv, ok, that makes sense [10:41] and then jenkins would do the sync request for the new reviewed packages, they'd be in queue and expire again :) [10:42] so even if these rejections were done needlessly (the files are still there), we can't redo the requests anyway so they're gone [10:43] for the next SRU sync request, before SRU team rejecting it, it should be looked how the files that have not expired can be fetched [10:48] Saviq: ci failed because of #include ?¿ [10:48] tsdgeos, yes [10:48] tsdgeos, sorry, we're switching to smart scopes [10:48] ok :-) [10:48] tsdgeos, have to break some CI in the process [10:49] * tsdgeos ignores CI for a while and goes back to writing tests [10:55] * greyback getting good at using nmcli to manage his wifi === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:05] Saviq, you think it makes sense to have Event as a separate component (like the calendar) I import in the menuitem? [11:05] Cimi, I believe so [11:05] Cimi, calendar is a separate component than an event, IMO [11:08] Saviq, I was unclear [11:08] Saviq, I meant, some menuitems contain all the code inside a Qml file [11:08] Saviq, currently CalendarMenu and EventMenu [11:08] import a separate component [11:09] Calendar will be separate, wondering if Event will have to be separate as well [11:18] I moved in back, less code [11:19] (Event is merged in EventMenu) === mmrazik|lunch is now known as mmrazik [11:27] Can someone confirm the version number of android-tools-adb package. I have 4.2.2+git20130218-3ubuntu8 [11:27] greyback: seems to be the same as I have [11:28] on saucy, ubuntu8 [11:36] Mirv: thanks. [11:37] adb is not working for me for some reason [11:44] greyback: in which way? works here. [11:44] greyback: what does adb devices give? [11:44] Mirv: a device ?????????. Let me reboot before I trouble shoot further, as my install is royally f**ked right now [11:44] greyback: ???? usually means incorrect permissions [11:45] Mirv: bbiab === mzanetti is now known as mzanetti|lunch === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [12:18] Saviq, having issues running on device again: https://pastebin.canonical.com/92818/ [12:18] No idea why these packages can't be found. [12:19] nic-doffay, we might be at fault here, we're trying to get the smart scopes going in CI and everything [12:19] nic-doffay, but you should have this package already, unless you flashed recently? [12:20] Saviq, I did flash recently. [12:21] nic-doffay, you can download the packages from https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/3244988/+listing-archive-extra [12:21] nic-doffay, and install manually on the device [12:21] nic-doffay, https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+files/libdee-qt5-dev_3.0phablet2%7Esaucy1_armhf.deb [12:21] nic-doffay, https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+files/libqtdee3_3.0phablet2%7Esaucy1_armhf.deb [12:22] nic-doffay, https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+files/qtdeclarative5-dee-plugin_3.0phablet2%7Esaucy1_armhf.deb [12:22] Saviq, ta [12:22] nic-doffay, just put them on the device and "dpkg -i *deb" should be enough === mzanetti|lunch is now known as mzanetti === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:00] Saviq, still some other missing packages apparently. [13:01] nic-doffay, full log from ./run_on_device -s please? [13:02] Saviq, https://pastebin.canonical.com/92822/ [13:03] nic-doffay, dpkg -r libqtdee3 [13:03] nic-doffay, apt-get -f install [13:03] nic-doffay, should help [13:07] Saviq, it's just unity-core-6.0 that isn't found now. [13:09] nic-doffay, sorry, you need https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+files/libunity-dev_7.80%7Ephablet3_armhf.deb and https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+files/libunity-core-6.0-dev_7.81%7Ephablet2_armhf.deb too === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:12] dandrader: yesterday you couldn't mumble because your sound devices were missing in saucy, right? [13:13] greyback, yes, so I'm using my laptop that runs raring [13:14] for mumble [13:14] dandrader: so you've no tips for me to fix it :) Oh well, I'll keep digging [13:14] greyback, no. keep me posted. :) I think it will eventually work after some kernel update [13:20] mterry, hey, what's the status of https://launchpad.net/bugs/1155157 ? it's in the sponsoring queue, did you hold on upload waiting for some extra testing (from who?)? [13:20] Saviq, pong [13:20] Launchpad bug 1155157 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu Precise) "[FFe] Allow custom indicators" [Wishlist,Triaged] [13:21] Saviq, still bust sadly. [13:21] sil2100, So it seems that the indicator stack didn't release... what's the current issue? [13:21] fginther, mzanetti briefed you already [13:21] sort of [13:21] fginther: but I lost track a bit myself... [13:22] seb128, someone else was working on uploading it, so I didn't. /me is looking in mail for who [13:22] fginther: well, I have updated your job config so it runs. there is one "#TODO preinstall this stuff in the VM" [13:22] fginther: on the issues with unity8... I leave explanation to Saviq [13:23] mzanetti, ok, I was a bit baffled by the dependency issues [13:23] fginther: yeah... its a bit of a mess... it doesn't work with the phablet-team/ppa but also doesn't work without it - at least thats my current understanding [13:23] Saviq will correct me if I'm wrong :D [13:24] dandrader: probably yeah, but I don't have backup machine, so I'll just have to miss the standup [13:25] seb128, jmp was working on it [13:25] greyback, you could dual boot. but that's a bit of a hassle [13:25] fginther: anyways, disregarding the issues we have with unity8, the mediumtests-runner-fginther job would work with the minimalistic VM's now [13:26] mzanetti, kind of, yeah, but we should be able to enable phablet-team ppa now that I've dropped libunity and unity from it [13:26] greyback, Otherwise I'm afraid we gonna miss your voice for quite some time [13:26] :) [13:27] tedg: eeh [13:27] mzanetti, so all you need installed in the VM are these : "recordmydesktop qmlscene ps-qa-tools xserver-xorg xinit x11-xserver-utils"? [13:27] tedg: well, basically we can't safely release indicators without unity anyway [13:27] tedg: so indicators is in daily-build, but unity still has issue, also due to hud [13:27] fginther: yep. that seems to be it... and for qmlscene only because of a workaround we need... [13:28] fginther: so I'm unsure if we should preinstall qmlscene or just install it in the workaround step [13:28] trying to save time the preinstallation would be good [13:28] mzanetti, the potential remaining culprit is nux [13:28] sil2100, If unity fails, why can't we test indicators with the last released Unity? [13:28] mzanetti, but let's make CI pass first and then we'll see if the packages work or not [13:28] mterry, ritz (who added the debdiff to the bug) work in jmp's team ... should I just sponsor the debdiff there? [13:29] Saviq: so I'll enable the phablet-team ppa back? [13:29] mzanetti, not yet [13:29] mzanetti, I'll hold off a bit on updating the VMs [13:29] sil2100, Is this the same HUD thing with the BAMF errors? [13:29] seb123 which one is this ? [13:29] mzanetti, let's make CI pass [13:29] seb128 which one is this ? [13:29] mzanetti, for the new-libunity branch [13:29] fginther: yes please. I'll update you again on status in an hour or so [13:29] ritz, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1155157 [13:29] Launchpad bug 1155157 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu Precise) "[FFe] Allow custom indicators" [Wishlist,Triaged] [13:29] aah, thanks :) [13:30] mzanetti, cool [13:30] seb128, yeah debdiff should be fine [13:30] mterry, thanks [13:31] seb128, I probably should have just uploaded a while ago, but mentally I was like "someone else is on it" [13:31] mterry, no worry, it's on its way to be uploaded which is what matters ;-) [13:35] tedg: the same AP failures as before [13:35] tedg: gedit save and app_activate_on_enter [13:36] tedg: and the same thing - no HUD results for gedit it seems [13:36] ;/ [13:55] dandrader: where can I get the repo for ubuntu-qtlocation-plugin ? [13:55] I think I'm gonna do a clean install over the weekend. Too many things are now broken, I'm fighting more with my install than getting work done [13:57] Saviq, still having an issue with unity-core. [13:57] nic-doffay, log please? [13:58] greyback, searching... [14:01] greyback, https://code.launchpad.net/~rocket-scientists/aal+/ubuntu-qtlocation-plugin [14:04] dandrader: thank you [14:04] dandrader: it's private still? [14:11] Saviq, https://pastebin.canonical.com/92835/ [14:20] dandrader: hey, I just noticed (probably you know it already) that ever since we switched to the touch input stuff, scroll wheels are not working any more [14:20] dandrader: not a bit deal right now... but if its easy to enable we probably could/should [14:21] nic-doffay, you didn't remove libqtdee3 [14:22] nic-doffay, what does "apt-get -f install" say? [14:28] Saviq, I did. [14:29] apt-get -f install doesn't install anything. [14:30] nic-doffay, then you didn't install libunity-core-6.0-dev [14:31] nic-doffay, https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+files/libunity-core-6.0-dev_7.81%7Ephablet2_armhf.deb [14:32] mzanetti, yeah, I know === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea [14:41] sil2100, I think this should help a bit, you should retry the stack when this lands: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/hud/active-window/+merge/169429 [14:42] sil2100, I'm not sure it'll fix all the issues, but probably the gedit items. Seems Unity changed it's startup of HUD and also a bunch of window names. [14:43] tedg: excellent! Do you know why gedit was affected so much? Was it being invalidly blacklisted or something? [14:44] sil2100, No, HUD was getting started when the HUD dialog was up instead of before then. So it was thinking the focused window was the HUD one, which was blacklisted. [14:44] sil2100, Before HUD would get started earlier, so it'd know about gedit. [14:44] Ah, ok, makes sense, good catch [14:44] The merger might take a while since there's a lot of merges pilled up [14:45] Just hope it didn't hang up or anything... [14:45] K, mine is little though :-) === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g === salem_ is now known as _salem [15:34] hi, I've just installed Unity on OpenSuse 12.2 and have two problems [15:35] first I haven't top panel and notification area, need to do ctrl+space+backspace for log out :\ [15:36] and second I've get an error trying to set up properly two monitor config [15:43] any idea? [15:43] I don't know even how debug it [15:45] fginther, ping [15:45] Saviq, pong [15:55] Saviq, quick one. You might like it. https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/unity/8_directionEnum/+merge/169472 [15:56] dandrader, lol :D === slangase` is now known as slangasek === deegee__ is now known as drussell [16:12] tedg: hi! [16:13] Howdy sil2100 [16:13] tedg: I re-ran the machinery for HUD and we still get those 2 gedit failures [16:13] sil2100, Really? [16:13] Hmm, that's odd. [16:13] No idea what's going wrong, since the same thing is happening, but I see it's using the latest package, so the fix should be in... [16:13] Can you give me the link that run? [16:14] http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/autopilot-saucy-daily_release/113/ [16:14] Fresh and tasty, finished a few minutes ago ;) [16:18] sil2100, Can you grab ~/.cache/upstart/hud.log from that run? [16:20] hey all, I try to run Unity8 on my desktop and it errors immediately with a 'module "Ubuntu.Application" is not installed' error at line 18 in Shell.qml... is there a package not in the dependency list that I need to install? [16:25] bregma, did you use the "run" script? [16:25] no "run" script ships in the binary deb, and the one in the source tree apparently requires the build environemnt to be present [16:26] bregma, check the CODING file in the root dir of unity8 [16:26] bregma, if you follow the steps there it will "just work" [16:27] bregma, the unity8 packages are meant for the phone. won't work on the desktop AFAIK [16:28] tedg: one moment [16:29] dandrader, I am trying to make Unity8 work on the desktop, that's the point.... so do you know where the "Ubuntu.Application" comes from? [16:29] bregma, qtubuntu [16:30] bregma, you might have to write a Qt Platform Plugin for the Ubuntu Desktop... [16:30] so that it fetches the write icons, for instance [16:31] sounds like fun, thanks for the pointer [16:31] tedg: this will take a few minutes [16:31] bregma, btw unity8 has a fake version of Ubuntu.Application (so that you can play around with unity8 on the desktop). you might want to have a look at it [16:32] in the source tree [16:32] sil2100, Ah, okay. Thanks! === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [16:42] * greyback eow [16:53] tedg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5765294/ [16:55] tedg: sorry it took so long === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOW === _salem is now known as salem_ === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [17:48] Hi! I have a problem - my gtk applications are looking crappy - I don't think they get themed anymore. How do I fix this? === robru__ is now known as robru [17:57] Hello together. I have some problems with my GTK Toolkit on 13.04 I think. I've reinstalled Ubuntu yesterday and now, every application which uses GTK looks very weird (old buttons, old icons, ...). Does anybody knows a solution hot to fix this? [17:58] sil2100, hey, im not really sure about that crash you asked me to look into :(, i've not been able to reproduce it... === boiko_ is now known as boiko [18:05] sil2100, Thanks, getting back from lunch. [18:05] sil2100, No issue. === dandrader|lunch is now known as dandrader [18:09] mmrazik|afk, heyo. Just a quick poke as a followup to that jenkins/gmail email subject bug. I still have been getting the occasional email with the header "Re: [Merge] autolanding tests passed" [18:52] *huehuehue* now running Unity 8 as my default desktop on Saucy.... edge swipe is not so useful, it pops back in right away before I can touch any buttons in the launcher [18:52] needs work [18:52] :) [18:52] mterry: oh... [18:52] mterry: my bad [18:52] let me reopen the bug [19:06] fginther: if you have a sec (fixes the gmail conversations again): https://code.launchpad.net/~mrazik/jenkins-launchpad-plugin/lp1187002-take-2/+merge/169524 [19:06] this time I've grep-ed the source code and get_vote_subject seems to be used everywhere [19:27] bregma, wow. Are you emulating touch events? [19:28] nope, it's a touchscreen [19:28] ah, nice :) [19:29] mmrazik|afk, ack [20:03] mhall119, Yo! read what that guy have to say: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/ubuntu-touch-apps-arrive-on-ubuntu-desktop#comment-930848551 === salem_ is now known as _salem [21:59] mhall119, hey ho, lets go :O [21:59] I have a problem when using bigger fonts with the unity applications scope, in preview mode [22:00] The string for "Free Download" does get cut, in the German version [22:00] now I asked to use instead of "Kostenlos Herunterladen" "Gratis Installieren", and asked the German translators to review it, but they said they are not going to apply this suggestion [22:00] "Gratis Installieren" = "Install Gratis" === gotwig is now known as gotwig-afk [22:42] gotwig-afk: is there room enough for them to just make the button bigger? [22:44] mhall119, I dont know, does Unity support this? [22:45] IMHO its sounds strange, at least in German. If users are not familiar with Ubuntu, they maybe could think, downloading is just the first step, installation another. I would go for "Install for free" or something like that, as the string for the button [22:46] gotwig-afk: I don't know, but it should make a reasonable attempt to display the text properly [22:46] mhall119, do you think "Free Download" is a good string here? [22:47] gotwig-afk: I don't have an opinion, but probably they want to keep it as close to the same meaning as possible across all languages [22:48] mhall119, In the software center it talks about "Installing" right? [22:48] for libre apps it does [22:48] for closed-source I think it says "buy" [22:49] mhall119, I am going to report a bug report, suggesting to just use "Install", like in the software center [22:50] gotwig-afk: use the bug report to say that the german translation won't fit [22:50] you can offer that as a suggestion, but it would likely require changing every language's strings to the equiv of "Install" [22:50] mhall119, I dont know if its just my stupid mind, but I think the string "Free Download" does not fit the purpose [22:50] the Unity devs might just decide to allow more button space [22:51] gotwig-afk: maybe so, but it's not something we can change in just the German translation [22:51] I know that are two different projects, but we could use the same strings from the software center button for "install" [22:52] mhall119, I am not even sure the size of the button can change. they are equivalent long, the first and the second one. [22:52] mhall119, https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#inbox/13f4145c136ec036 [22:52] lol ^^ I am sorry [22:52] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-lens-applications/+bug/1190861 [22:52] Launchpad bug 1190861 in unity-lens-applications "String "Kostenlos Herunterladen" should not get cut when using "Larger Fonts" in the System Settings" [Undecided,New] [22:54] mhall119, do you think it makes sense to report a bug, so maybe the string can be changed from "Free Download" to just "Install"? [22:54] like I said, report that the german string doesn't fit, then offer that as a possible solution [22:55] mhall119, you see I already reported the German string thing, yesterday [22:56] I would just comment on that then that Install would make it fit