[13:56] <dzho> jandrusk: no, English yeoman archer attack
[19:27] <canthus13> dzho: The knee isn't a ball joint.
[19:27] <canthus13> It's a hinge.
[19:28] <canthus13> shoulders are ball joints. hips are ball joints.
[19:30] <dzho> canthus13: but cars have ball joints
[19:31] <dzho> hinge joints too, I suppose, but one usually just says "hinge"
[19:31] <dzho> I guess what I was thinking is "knees and ball joins are both joints"
[19:33] <canthus13> ah.
[22:30] <jrgifford> We got hit the same night in Indiana.
[22:30] <jrgifford> Yay weather. Thankfully the tornado that formed was on the other end of the county
[22:57] <thafreak>  so, anyone giving 13.04 a shot?
[22:58]  * Unit193 is already on it, not sure if he wishes he wasn't.
[22:58] <thafreak> i decided to give vanilla 13.04 desktop a shot...
[22:58] <thafreak> which version/"flavor"?
[22:59] <Unit193> Xubuntu mainly, one Lubuntu.
[23:01] <Unit193> Some things are fixed, some are horribly broken.
[23:01] <Unit193> But you should be good.
[23:05] <thafreak> i grabbed xubuntu too...have one kid using it
[23:05] <thafreak> thought i'd give unity another shot
[23:07] <Unit193> I'd give it buckshot...
[23:11] <thafreak> lol, really?
[23:11] <thafreak> have you tried it as of 13.04?
[23:12] <Unit193> I haven't tried it as of 12.04.
[23:12] <thafreak> it does perform a bit better...
[23:12] <thafreak> but only with proprietary nvidia drivers
[23:12] <thafreak> when i was using noveau, it was kinda slow to do any of the animations
[23:13] <Unit193> It'd crash and burn on this computer, the other computer I don't really use (the others do) should be able to handle it, but I as much of an intention to put Unity on it as I do Windows 8.
[23:13] <thafreak> meh, I'll probably end up with xubuntu, but i wanted to see how it's changed
[23:13] <thafreak> ha
[23:13] <Unit193> Oh sure, you're free to use it. :P
[23:14] <Unit193> It'd annoy me only a little less, I like "classic" desktops.  I never liked Gnome anyway.
[23:14] <thafreak> i *do* hate their software center though...gah...it's crap, half the time doesn't seem to even work for me
[23:15] <thafreak> ah, well this machine i just re-installed had kubuntu on it...and i was getting sick of kde
[23:15] <Unit193> Software Center?  I just found out this morning the icon is purple, I'm very, very fast to purge that thing.
[23:15] <Unit193> Upgrade purge list: http://paste.openstack.org/show/QMHMpdXVSB22GQ2B5L06
[23:15] <thafreak> or whatever it's called
[23:15] <jenni> [ Paste #QMHMpdXVSB22GQ2B5L06 | LodgeIt! ] - http://j.mp/11f5Mj0
[23:16] <thafreak> well, I only opened it up cause I wanted to try installing steam
[23:16] <thafreak> and I couldn't install it with apt-get apparently
[23:17] <thafreak> so on xubuntu, does it do things like mounting media under /media/username/diskname?
[23:18] <Unit193> Yes.
[23:19] <thafreak> interesting...there's little things like that that stand out to me...not that i care one way or the other
[23:19] <thafreak> just things I notice
[23:19] <thafreak> i could see how that could be useful for machines with multiple users logging into it at the same time
[23:19]  * Unit193 uses terminal a lot... But only have 4 open now (all of which are running screen.)
[23:20] <Unit193> Kernel wouldn't hold a longer uptime than 2 days for me, and graphics really took a dump down the drain for me, which also screws up flash.
[23:21] <thafreak> really? your box is that unstable?
[23:22] <thafreak> that sucks
[23:22] <thafreak> well, 12.04, for being a "LTS", was never as stable as I expected it should be
[23:22] <Unit193> Flash worked, graphics worked better and kernel worked better in Quantal.  I compiled my own kernel and it's fine now.
[23:22] <thafreak> haha
[23:22] <thafreak> man, I haven't done that in years...
[23:23] <Unit193> Flash and graphics stinks, but kernel can hold an uptime.  Liquorix also works, but not stock Ubuntu kernels.
[23:23] <thafreak> probably the last time was when I had a new 3ware card that wasn't supported by the debian installer :/
[23:24] <thafreak> well, gotta go pick up pizza...
[23:24] <thafreak> bbl
[23:24] <Unit193> Sweet, good choice.
[23:25] <Unit193> Just means I get a Linux Sigma 3.9.5-u193 uname. :D
[23:25] <Unit193> Hmmmm.... .6 is out, and liquorix -6 is already installed.
[23:27] <skellat> So far Xubuntu 13.04 hasn't exploded on my netbook.  The BeagleBoard stays at Xubuntu 12.04 for the moment.  The RPi stays on Raspbian CURRENT for the moment.
[23:28] <Unit193> (Note, I do have some custom packages, but nothing that would cause issues like what I'm having, and they were added after.)
[23:28] <Unit193> Netbook seems to like 13.04 just fine.