[00:02] <Tex_Nick> eshietweb:  i would suggest trashing windoZe & keeping ubuntu ... sorry a bit of bad humor there ;-)
[00:03] <teslan7777> naa
[00:03] <Thete> Does anyone know by chance how I would go about compiling an ethernet driver from source and getting ubuntu to use it?
[00:03] <b14d3> Hi all. Having an issue where I can't boot into the GUI on my Ubuntu machine. LiveUSB I can boot just fine and works as normal. I've just installed the ATI drivers, but it does not appear to be working anymore. I know those are generally recommended against, and if so could someone direct me to a set up guide to an open source one?
[00:03] <Thete> nevermind, got it I think
[00:07] <Tex_Nick> !nomodeset | b14d3
[00:08] <b14d3> Thanks Tex_Nick, but I actually have GRUB set up to boot nomodeset already
[00:10] <Tex_Nick> b14d3:  ahh ok ... i probably can't help you then, however you need to provide more specifics ... graphics adapter, driver etc ... in order for the channel gru's to be able to hyelp you :-)
[00:11] <Shariff> Hi there
[00:11] <Tex_Nick> channel guru's ^
[00:12] <b14d3> Fair enough. The graphics card is an ATI, I honestly don't remember the specifics about it. The driver was run by just installing fglrx, I haven't really done anything else. Although interesting enough, the problem manifests the same way as what the nomodeset fixes.
[00:12] <Thete> hmm
[00:12] <Shariff> I've set up a dnsmasq server, but for some reason the hosts from /etc/hosts are not resolved on other systems on the network. Am I misunderstanding the use of dnsmasq or is there something I might be doing wrongly?
[00:12] <MrDyne> OK I got 3.8 to boot once threw recovery and selecting run but when it reboots the top of the screen is all pixel color garbage and it doesn't do anything. No network or hard drive activity.
[00:12] <MrDyne> Never boots.
[00:13] <Shariff> This is my conf file: http://pastebin.com/SCx2MmMS
[00:13] <Tex_Nick> b14d3:  in terminal ... sudo lshw -c display ... will provide info
[00:15] <eshietweb> thanks tex and t1l
[00:15] <we6jbo> Hi
[00:15] <b14d3> Thanks Tex_Nick, I always forget those commands. Need to learn them. Result: product: Turks [Radeon HD 6670]
[00:16] <Tex_Nick> eshietweb:  you're welcome :-)
[00:16] <eshietweb> can we chat later together?
[00:16] <we6jbo> Is there a way to run one command and then another command after the first one finishes?
[00:16] <phunyguy> Hello, I did a minimal ubuntu 12.04 install with xorg and xbmc, and I just want it to start xbmc from the getgo.  I created a config in /etc/init/, but for some reason I think it is being ignored.  Any ideas?
[00:17] <Shariff> phunyguy: why not install xbmcbuntu?
[00:17] <phunyguy> Because I wanted to do it the hard way.
[00:17] <Tex_Nick> eshietweb:  i'll always chat/help if i can
[00:17] <Shariff> phunyguy: I get that :D
[00:18] <Thete> Yay, ethernet
[00:18] <Thete> lol
[00:18] <Thete> I'm surprised e100e isn't included in 13.04
[00:19] <bindi> http://www.unifiedremote.com/ is there anything like this but for ubuntu? I want to control youtube specifically..
[00:19] <MrDyne> Does anyone have any ideas of stuff I can try to fix this unbooting upgrade.
[00:20] <wotuy04204t420tu> hello
[00:20] <dacdave> Where do I ask questions about connecting servers to the canonical landscape application?
[00:21] <genii> dacdave: Probably #ubuntu-server
[00:21] <Tex_Nick> b14d3:  great sir ... as i stated i'm just not good enough to help with graphics problems ... you'll need to provide that info someone who can help ... keep asking in this every so often ... i know you want the problem resolvedquickly ... sometimes just need for the right person to come along
[00:21] <b14d3> Yeah, I used to come in here all the time. Definitely a novice at best though. I'll keep trying :) It still functions via ssh and whatnot. There are just some utilities that I have that need the gui, unfortunately.
[00:22] <wotuy04204t420tu> nick whjgoiwrhgowirhgw
[00:22] <wotuy04204t420tu> NICK wofhwofjwoifjqwofjwof
[00:23] <fkingallofyourig> nice nick
[00:24] <fkingallofurmoms> much better
[00:25] <mehwork> where is the DNS zone file in ubuntu?
[00:27] <Thete> Is there a tool to configure network hardware settings in ubuntu?
[00:27] <Tex_Nick> b14d3:  also remember that google is great ... you might have to use a dozen or more search terms ... but google usually answers about 90% of my issues
[00:27] <dwxreaper> Thete: ethtool?
[00:28] <b14d3> Yeah, I'm trying something out right now. Scatter-shotting a potential solution :)
[00:28] <Thete> That's what I'm using, was wondering if there was a gui version
[00:28] <bindi> http://www.unifiedremote.com/ is there anything like this but for ubuntu? I want to control youtube specifically..
[00:29] <Thete> That or if there's a way to get ethtool to save settings so I don't have to keep resetting it every time I boot
[00:29] <Tex_Nick> b14d3:  lol ... go for it man ;-)
[00:34] <super1234> Sign the petition to add Liteceoin to MtGox. If you can, post it on a forum. https://www.change.org/petitions/mtgox-add-litecoin-to-mtgox
[00:38] <leonidas__> hola gente alguien de Argentina?
[00:42] <Thete> hmm
[00:42] <Thete> I don't think ubuntu is an option on haswell at this point
[00:42] <leonidas__> hola gente
[00:46] <MrDyne> I can get 3.8 to boot through the recovery menu with no problem but on a clean boot the screen dos blinks 3 times, the top of the screen goes all pixel corrupted and then nothing happens. I've done apt-get update/upgrade, regenerated the inifram.img? file for 3.8 and still wont clean boot.
[00:46] <MrDyne> linux 3.8.0-23
[00:47] <Dreki> Can someone point me in the direction of the xubuntu channel? #xubuntu didn't work.
[00:48] <genii> Dreki:  /join #xubuntu
[00:48] <MrDyne> Does it really matter which channel? Ubuntu has more users and xubuntu just has a diffrent interface?
[00:48] <MrDyne> more users in this room..
[00:49] <Dreki> MrDyne: not really, I just like to sit in that room so If i have an XFCE related problem.
[00:50] <Dreki> or one that i can help someone else with
[00:58] <xkernel> is there a similar solution like ActiveIdentity USB authentication for Linux?
[01:02] <asharas> hi all
[01:03] <asharas> I need some help to configure an authentication on apache2
[01:03] <elisa87> when I am installing any software I am receiving a bunch of error regarding NVidia graphic card setting ...can you please check here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763251/
[01:03] <deww> asharas: bacis stuff with .htaccess?
[01:03] <deww> er. basic
[01:03] <asharas> yep deww
[01:04] <deww> asharas: what do you need to know or where are you stuck?
[01:04] <yofun> hello im running ubuntu 13.04 and i cant seem to use the flash settings diallog
[01:04] <yofun> http://screencloud.net/v/h9Fa
[01:04] <yofun> it wont let me click anywhere
[01:05] <asharas> well, I have a 500 error when accessing my server
[01:06] <deww> asharas: check the apache error logs, but look in the .htaccess file, the AuthUserFile line, put in the full path to the .htpassword file
[01:06] <asharas> hum... okay, gimme a few minutes
[01:06] <asharas> (where is the apache error log?..)
[01:07] <yofun> http://screencloud.net/v/h9Fa <---- i cant seem to be able to use that dialog i cant click anything
[01:08] <deww> asharas: you can define it, but my guess is /var/log/apache2/error_log or similiar. i haven't used apache's default setup before so i'm just going by some general rule
[01:08] <deww> er.. have't used ubuntu's default apache setup
[01:08] <unsignedint> guys guys guys halp
[01:08] <unsignedint> just kidding
[01:09] <unsignedint> has anyone had any experience installing ubuntu 13.04 on a late 2012 iMac?
[01:09] <unsignedint> im wondering if my computer will still boot or if it will screw up the EFI boot partition
[01:09] <asharas> deww: I'm in real trouble, I haven't touch apache since years :(
[01:10] <yofun> noon3  :(
[01:10] <unsignedint> asharas: whats your apache issue?
[01:10] <asharas> trying to add an authentication
[01:10] <unsignedint> asharas: what kind, basic auth?
[01:11] <asharas> yeah, but I don't know where is the problem..
[01:11] <deww> most of the 500 errors with the basic auth stuff is the wrong path to the .htpasswd file
[01:11] <Shariff> I've set up a dnsmasq server, but for some reason the hosts from /etc/hosts are not resolved on other systems on the network. Am I misunderstanding the use of dnsmasq or is there something I might be doing wrongly?
[01:11] <Shariff> This is my conf file: http://pastebin.com/SCx2MmMS
[01:11] <unsignedint> asharas: can you please post your config file
[01:12] <asharas> pastebin?
[01:14] <unsignedint> asharas: yep thatll do
[01:14] <samgabbay> how do i stop the weired skype sounds
[01:14] <asharas> unsignedint:
[01:14] <asharas> ups
[01:14] <elisa87> Hi I am having this error no idea how to fix it : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763272/
[01:15] <asharas> unsignedint: pastebin.com/H863EN30
[01:15] <tking_> hello guys please how do i access  /root/.local/share/Trash/ and delete files there?
[01:15] <deww> asharas: what? you didn't like my answer? :P
[01:16] <asharas> I tried, but I have a very low skill on apache
[01:16] <asharas> I'm a newbie :)
[01:16] <asharas> and I used apache only once in my life, a few years ago and I don't remember anything
[01:17] <genii> elisa87: Looks like the problem is the 43 kernel. Did you just run dist-upgrade and new kernel installed, but haven't rebooted yet?
[01:17] <b14d3> While I'm still working on my GUI issue, I have another problem that I can't seem to fix either. Everytime I reboot, the system mounts a 1Mb "Overflow" drive to /tmp. Fortunately I have a spare hd that I can mount to it manually, but I'm not sure why it isn't using the OS hd. Any ideas on that one?
[01:17] <elisa87> genii I rebooted
[01:18] <voidray> elisa87, paste /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-current-updates/304.88/build/make.log
[01:18] <asharas> unsignedint: everything went wrong when I added the auth lines and the scgi part
[01:18] <genii> elisa87: What says result of uname -r    ?
[01:18] <voidray> We need more info.
[01:18] <genii> Probably no kernel headers for the 43 one.
[01:19] <asharas> any idea unsignedint or deww ?
[01:20] <genii> ( seeing as it says the 44 kernel headers are obsolete and can be removed, but no such for the 43 yet it tries to build for it, indicating 43 kernel is installed )
[01:21] <stevePage129> anybody have any experience with UPS's?
[01:21] <stevePage129> http://askubuntu.com/questions/305701/my-emerson-liebert-ups-is-not-reporting-correctly-but-works-in-windows
[01:21] <elisa87> genii voidray http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763284/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763281/ thanks
[01:21] <deww> asharas: look at /var/log/apache2/error.log (cat, more, less)
[01:21] <elisa87> genii: 3.2.0-43-generic
[01:21] <samgabbay> Someone help mehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/307951/how-do-i-fix-the-weired-skype-noises
[01:22] <genii> elisa87: Odd, since later kernels than that are installed.
[01:23] <elisa87> genii: they are not working that's why I am using version 43
[01:23] <elisa87> please let me know if there might be a solution to this genii
[01:23] <tgm4883> Running into a weird issue here, my wireless disconnects until I turn it off and on again (via keyboard keys). The last message in syslog when this happens is " wpa_supplicant[1383]: wlan0: WPA: Group rekeying completed with xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx [GTK=CCMP]"
[01:23] <tgm4883> This is on 13.04
[01:24] <tgm4883> Are there any other logs I should be looking at?
[01:24] <asharas> deww: can't access the passwd file, maybe because my home is encryptfs?
[01:25] <deww> asharas: well what are t he file permissions of your directory and that file?
[01:25] <sethj> tgm4883 : Does /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log exist?
[01:26] <genii> elisa87: I would suggest, to make sure all the proper stuff is installed:  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install dkms linux-headers-generic build-essential linux-source   ...then to try again with: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[01:26] <tgm4883> sethj, nope
[01:27] <genii> elisa87: Actually, the last command would be: sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current  ...since it's installed, just not correctly
[01:27] <asharas> deww: where can I put the htpasswd file? my home is encrypted and /root is unreachable to the apache user
[01:28] <tgm4883> sethj, I seem to have wlan0 entries in kern.log, I'll check that log again the next time the wireless dies (give it about 5 minutes)
[01:28] <craigbass1976> Anyone know why an ssh session to GoDaddy stays open fine, but an sshfs mount dies after a couple of minutes?
[01:29] <deww> asharas: /var/www would be ok
[01:29] <sethj> tgm4883: Humm. OK. I suppose you're configuring your wireless through the network connections manager? (GUI method)
[01:29] <tgm4883> sethj, yes
[01:29] <tgm4883> sethj, it's WPA2 Enterprise
[01:29] <deww> asharas: i dont think it's the encryption, but most likely the proper permissions. also you look into how to prevent people from  being able to read your password file.
[01:30] <Mark_> craigbass1976: Some kind of a timeout?
[01:30] <Mark_> craigbass1976: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1263543 (?)
[01:31] <sethj> tgm4883: OK. Do you know what wireless card you have? (lspci -nn)
[01:31] <tgm4883> sethj, 07:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 [8086:0887] (rev c4)
[01:32] <asharas> yeeepeeeeee
[01:33] <Epoxx> Hi everyone. I'm trying real hard to install Ubuntu on my desktop but all I run into are issues. I was able to get it installed with EFI, but now I can'T connect to internet with neither my wifi card nor my ethernet card, any ideas?
[01:33] <asharas> deww: I found the problem: accessing the htpasswd file
[01:33] <asharas> it works :)
[01:33] <craigbass1976> Epoxx, but it's installed?
[01:33] <sethj> tgm4883: What is the output of:
[01:33] <sethj> ls /sys/class/net/wlan0/device/driver/module/drivers
[01:33] <sethj> ?
[01:33] <Epoxx> yes it's installed. I first thought it was an issue with version 13, but now I have v12 and its the same dead
[01:33] <Epoxx> dead -> deal
[01:34] <Epoxx> give me a second (this is my laptop :) )
[01:34] <tgm4883> sethj, pci:iwlwifi
[01:34] <deww> asharas: also look here http://www.askapache.com/htaccess/security-with-htaccess.html#Prevent_access_htaccess_htpasswd_files, i'm pretty sure your config as is, allows people read your password file if they figure out the name.
[01:34] <sethj> tgm4883: Interesting. We're both using similar network cards and the same driver..
[01:35] <Epoxx> I don'T even have wlan0 , I only have eth0, so I'm assuming I don't have the proper drivers for my wifi card. Still can't connect using ethernet though :(
[01:36] <asharas> deww: should I chown my .htpasswd file? and then chmod it?
[01:37] <craigbass1976> Epoxx, kind of stupid, but have you disabled wifi with the Fn +whatever key combination?
[01:37] <Epoxx> its a desktop, so no
[01:37] <genii> Epoxx: If it's connected to some dhcp server like on a router, maybe try:  sudo dhclient -r eth0 && sudo dhclient eth0   ... then see if it got a number with: ifconfig
[01:38] <craigbass1976> Epoxx, ah.  Wow, that's really weird then
[01:38] <Epoxx> its connected to my laptop using a network bridge (might be the culprit, although I used this often with windows)
[01:39] <deww> asharas: most apache default setups restricts people from actually being able to read files start with .ht, so you should probably just rename it from .rutorrent-htpasswd to .ht-whatever-you-want. just make sure to change it in your config and restart apache
[01:39] <sethj> tgm4883: Unfortunately I need to go. You might consider asking a question at askubuntu.com with the debugging details.
[01:40] <elisa87> genii: nothing gets installed :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763329/
[01:40] <tgm4883> sethj, thanks for looking
[01:40] <asharas> deww: the file actually belongs to root:root and has 664 rights
[01:41] <genii> elisa87: Ah, fail because the nvidia is failing, etc. So first:  sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current   ... then run the other command again
[01:41]  * genii needs more coffee
[01:42] <asharas> btw the way deww , I'll be the only user accessing the server
[01:43] <Epoxx> ugh, apparently ubuntu doesn'T like network bridges
[01:43] <Epoxx> http://askubuntu.com/questions/302874/network-bridge-from-windows-8-wifi-to-ubuntu-lan
[01:43] <deww> asharas: well then you don't have to be so paranoid :)
[01:43] <elisa87> genii:  I even can't remove it http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763331/ I am really going crazy! I tried many manual in web none helpful ...
[01:46] <aamer> hello room, my problem is I don't know how to increase GNOME application menu's height, please take a look https://imageshack.com/a/img694/9596/ri6.png
[01:47] <aamer> please don't redirect me to another room because I think I've already asked everywhere
[01:47] <genii> elisa87: sudo rm /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-current-updates/kernel-3.2.0-43*     ... then try the sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current   ..command again please
[01:47] <genii> elisa87: I need to go get a coffee, back shortly :)
[01:48] <tylere_> I'm getting ready to install 13.04 on a machine with 2 identical drivers, and my motherboard has Fake raid support. What is the least painful way to set things up... fakeraid, sw raid, or lvm?
[01:49] <craigbass1976> Mark_, No go.  I just tried it out and have lost connection.  Further down the comments there was another unhappy camper who's also having this trouble with GoDaddy.  On my own server, I have have sshfs up all night from home.  Not sure what gives at GD, and I'm sure they'll tell me it's my fault...
[01:51] <blockworks> does /etc/rc.local run with root privs?
[01:51] <blockworks> or which startup script does?
[01:54]  * genii sips his coffee
[01:54] <genii> elisa87: Any joy?
[01:54] <elisa87> genii: total failure
[01:55] <genii> elisa87: Can you pastebin please?
[01:55] <elisa87> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763357/
[01:55] <elisa87> :|
[01:56] <genii> elisa87: You forgot to put the *  at the end of the sudo rm command
[01:57] <genii> elisa87: eg:  sudo rm /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-current-updates/kernel-3.2.0-43*        <- exactly, with the sar at the end
[01:57] <genii> sar->star
[01:59] <craigbass1976> Mark_, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/14143/what-is-a-better-way-to-deal-with-server-disconnects-of-sshfs-mounts  Giving the -o reconnect a whirl now...
[01:59] <Dreki> Can anyone tell me what libnotify1 is?
[02:00] <Dreki> I am getting it as a missing dependancy for a package
[02:00] <Nimble> Dreki: it's the library responsible for popping notification bubbles up in your top right corner
[02:00] <Nimble> what package?
[02:00] <somsip> !find libnotify | Dreki
[02:00] <Nimble> you should have it installed
[02:00] <aamer> again, using 12.04 fall-back gnome classic, my problem is I don't know how to increase GNOME application menu's height, please take a look https://imageshack.com/a/img694/9596/ri6.png
[02:01] <Dreki> its likely not installed for me because im using xubuntu.
[02:01] <Nimble> it's not unity specific
[02:01] <Nimble> most distros use it
[02:01] <genii> Dreki: Looks like it wants something from 3 generations ago of libnotify since it's up to libnotify4 now
[02:01] <Nimble> and that ^^^
[02:02] <Dreki> Its pidgin-gfire an xfire plugin for pidgin
[02:02] <Dreki> I still have a couple of old friends i keep in touch with on xfire
[02:02] <elisa87> genii: any though on that?
[02:03] <genii> elisa87: So you ran now the correct command with the * at the end as I described?
[02:03] <Nimble> Dreki: you can try installing libnotify1
[02:04] <Nimble> E: Package 'libnotify1' has no installation candidate
[02:04] <Nimble> maybe not
[02:04] <Dreki> Nimble: do you think that will mess up anything with my current setup?
[02:04] <Nimble> can't say for sure
[02:04] <genii> elisa87: Because in your paste, it said: rm: cannot remove '/var/lib/dkms/nvidia-current-updates/kernel-3.2.0-43': No such file or directory     because you wrote: sudo rm /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-current-updates/kernel-3.2.0-43  instead of: sudo rm /var/lib/dkms/nvidia-current-updates/kernel-3.2.0-43*
[02:04] <Dreki> Nimble: and would 4 conflict with 1
[02:05] <Nimble> I don't think so because the packages have different numbers
[02:05] <elisa87> genii: is this ok?
[02:05] <Nimble> but I'm not an apt expert
[02:05] <elisa87> is this ok? genii http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763370/
[02:05] <Dreki> well thanks for the advice
[02:05] <genii> elisa87: Yes.
[02:06] <Nimble> you might have to find it outside of the repos somewhere, maybe there is a ppa with it
[02:06] <Nimble> good luck :V
[02:06] <genii> elisa87: So then now: sudo apt-get install dkms linux-headers-generic build-essential linux-source ...then to try again with: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[02:07] <elisa87> genii: I tried again but yet I have errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763372/
[02:08] <genii> elisa87: Ah, you also have nvidia-current-updates installed
[02:08] <elisa87> genii: I couldn't remove it using this http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763373/
[02:09] <genii> elisa87: You forgot the "s" ... is updates  not update
[02:13] <genii> elisa87: So did the command:  sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current-updates       ...complete successfully yet?
[02:13] <genii> ( with the s at the end ;)   )
[02:14] <elisa87> genii: yes done without error now I should install nvidia? how was the command?
[02:15] <genii> elisa87: First, make sure you have all the right pieces
[02:15] <genii> elisa87: So then now: sudo apt-get install dkms linux-headers-generic build-essential linux-source ...then to try again with: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[02:16] <genii> It will say dkms is already installed, etc, thats all fine. Should continue on to set up the other stuff if it's not there.
[02:17] <IsaacLewis> My software manager isn't working, when I try to download/install something it doesn't work
[02:17] <Ari-Yang> @ IsaacLewis sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[02:17] <Ari-Yang> !distupgrade
[02:18] <max1> Hello
[02:18] <elisa87> genii:  do you know about bootstrap?
[02:19] <elisa87> I mean debootstrap
[02:19] <max1> whats that?
[02:19] <genii> elisa87: Yes, but we are wandering off topic now :)
[02:19] <akurilin> Quick question: is there an up-to-date list of Ubuntu friendly hardware components out there? I've seen the list of pre-made machines on the official Ubuntu side, but that doesn't help me too much if I'm building my own.
[02:20] <max1> I'm going to be Building a Computer this summer. would you choose intel or AMD
[02:20] <genii> elisa87: Did the commands I gave you finish yet?
[02:20] <max1> for my Ubuntu Machine
[02:20] <boink__> hi everyone. I have a clean install of 12.04 that doesn't recognize my network cable as plugged
[02:20] <genii> ( I want to go watch last half of the third period of Chicago-Boston hockey soon)
[02:20] <boink__> ifconfig only shows lo, no eth0. any ideas?
[02:20] <IsaacLewis> I use amd and my computer is pretty slow, I think you should use intel
[02:21] <max1> i5?
[02:21] <elisa87> isn't debootstrap related to Ubuntu? I have created a disk image and mounted on /mnt/mount_x86 by using sudo mount /dev/loop0 /mnt/mount_x86 but it just created the lost&found folder and not the rest of the folders...somebody told me that I shoudl use debootstrap for creating those normal folders like bin , lib, lib64 ,opt, etc...anyway what's your idea genii?
[02:21] <max1> IsaacLewis: okay thanks
[02:22] <elisa87> genii: no unfortunately not http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763389/
[02:22] <genii> elisa87: I'm not going to get sidetracked into discussing debootstrap with you, because I intend to leave soon, assuming your nvidia situation becomes resolved. I'm missing watching a hockey game which is not on for much longer.
[02:22] <elisa87> ah ok that's alright
[02:23] <max1> I wish Ubuntu had more users than Mac OSx
[02:23] <IsaacLewis> Ari-Yang: it says E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[02:23] <genii> elisa87: Before you ran the sudo apt-get install nvidia-current... did you run the other command I gave? eg: sudo apt-get install dkms linux-headers-generic build-essential linux-source
[02:24] <elisa87> yes genii and it was successfull without any error
[02:24] <genii> elisa87: If so please pastebin the result from that
[02:24] <genii> Ah, OK.
[02:24] <max1> I have a question sorta off track. What is a Floodbot?
[02:24] <Ari-Yang> IsaacLewis, not sure... perhaps hang around here and someone will get to you and google the error code?
[02:24] <boink__> max1 a bot that floods a channel?
[02:24] <yofun> hello im kinda stupid but do i include passwords in ftp:// like this? ftp://user:pass@host ?
[02:24] <max1> im a bit confused
[02:25] <max1> like Monitoring?
[02:25] <elisa87> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763391/
[02:25] <GuilhermeCunha> elisa87 apt-get install -f
[02:25] <max1> Im new to the whole thing
[02:26] <boink__> hi everyone. I have a clean install of 12.04 that doesn't recognize my network cable as plugged
[02:26] <boink__> ifconfig only shows lo, no eth0. any ideas?
[02:26] <max1> i dont think it shows eth0
[02:26] <genii> elisa87: It's a bit of a puzzle.  I have to leave now, but am in here every weekday. So if your situation is unresolved tomorrow, we shall continue
[02:26] <IsaacLewis> My software manager isn't working, when I try to download/install something it doesn't work\
[02:26] <yofun> hello im kinda stupid but do i include passwords in ftp:// like this? ftp://user:pass@host ?
[02:27] <genii> yofun: Yes, that's the syntax
[02:27] <boink__> yofun, I am no guru but try it without the password and it will ask for it upon connection
[02:27] <elisa87> GuilhermeCunha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763395/
[02:27] <elisa87> thanks genii good night
[02:27] <IsaacLewis> My software manager isn't working, when I try to download/install something it doesn't work
[02:28] <max1> Is Raring Ringtail 13.04 a nightly build?
[02:28] <yofun> ah thanks boink__ :P im useing my ftp web server as a back up :p
[02:28] <SonikkuAmerica> max1: Nope, it's stable. Head for cdimage.u.c and get yours today
[02:28] <SonikkuAmerica> !isitou
[02:28] <boink__> glad i could help
[02:28] <SonikkuAmerica> !isitout
[02:28] <uw> HI i'm using 12.04 and running cmus v2.4.3.  that is an old version and would like to update.  do you know how to do this?
[02:28] <max1> alright thanks
[02:31] <boink__> maybe a dumb question but can i just edit /etc/network/interfaces and add eth0  and dhcp to it?
[02:33] <kde185> is anyone aware of what might cause gdisk to say that the gpt table is corrupt after I just used gdisk to create a new table?
[02:34] <Cpudan80> Hey --- how can I setup a folder so that all files created in the folder take on the permissions associated with the folder?
[02:34] <kde185> this might be happening on 2 identical drives
[02:35] <Cpudan80> Ex. If folderX is owned jsmit:users -- i want all files created in the folder (by anyone) to be associated with the users group
[02:35] <Cpudan80> obviously the user will be difference
[02:35] <Cpudan80> different*
[02:37] <resting> so..i'm going to upgrade a remote system…can anyone advise me how to backup the current system to my local computer so that if anything goes wrong i could easily restore it?
[02:38] <kde185> Cpudan80: you'll want to look into using acl's to accomplish this.  I'd give more information if I had any but I haven't really used it.  Link: http://superuser.com/questions/151911/how-to-make-new-file-permission-inherit-from-the-parent-directory
[02:41] <Sinful_Pancakes> Hiya
[02:41] <excalibr> Is there way to run text based installer on from the regular desktop iso?
[02:42] <felixonmars> hi, three of my ubuntu box suddenly got permission 754 for /etc, which made many services failed. i didn't do it myself and i didn't find anything else changed, no clue in auth.log etc
[02:42] <winegoddess> is there a good resource for setting up my ubuntu server for multiple domains?   tools, security, best practices?
[02:42] <felixonmars> winegoddess: all domains owned by you?
[02:44] <Sinful_Pancakes> How would I go about installing Ubuntu from my hard drive?
[02:44] <winegoddess> hi felixonmars - yes. it is on a backspace server that i have
[02:45] <winegoddess> so, my question is really set up of server, as well as setup of domains. ny tolls to help make this easy if i have 20+ domains i wish to setup which are all similar setups (wordpress, php database)
[02:45] <felixonmars> use something like cpanel?
[02:46] <Sinful_Pancakes> Hello
[02:46] <Sinful_Pancakes> ?
[02:46] <winegoddess> hi felixonmars - i didn't setup cpanel.  but something script wise, that lets me set up domains quicker/easier.   and then 2nd question, general setup concerns for security...
[02:47] <winegoddess> i just heard of http://tuxlite.com/about/ today
[02:47] <DarkAceLaptop> how do I install a .deb via command line?
[02:48] <somsip> DarkAceLaptop: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[02:48] <DarkAceLaptop> thanks
[02:49] <DarkAceLaptop> dpkg-deb (subprocess): cannot copy archive member from '/home/justin/Downloads/steam_latest.deb' to decompressor pipe: unexpected end of file or stream
[02:49] <DarkAceLaptop> perhaps a corrupted download?
[02:49] <DarkAceLaptop> the steam install popped up; should I continue, or redownload?
[02:50] <DarkAceLaptop> s/install/installer
[02:50] <felixonmars> winegoddess: or something like openpanel, zpanel, webmin, ajenti ... all free
[02:50] <alexandros_c> good night, I am using ubuntu 13.04 amd64 and I have installed Java EE 7. I am having a problem getting glassfish updatetool to work. Everytime I run updatetool, it tells me that my os is 64 and not configured for 32. However, the multiarch packages are installed. Can anyone help me resolve this problem?
[02:50] <somsip> DarkAceLaptop: doesn't sound good. I'd suggest downloading again
[02:50] <felixonmars> DarkAceLaptop: i'll recommend a redownload
[02:51] <winegoddess> felixonmars: of those do you have a preference? also any good sites for resources such as this?
[02:51] <winegoddess> other than wikipedia? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_hosting_control_panels
[02:51] <felixonmars> winegoddess: not really, as im not running php sites :p they all have homepages and demos, if you gonna try
[02:52] <winegoddess> trying to understand would this be one per domain? or can i set it up somehow (using some tools) so that i can create a new domain in the server and have it automatically install a cpanel with it?
[02:53] <winegoddess> I'm interested in both sides, the server setup in general (security as well) and then making it easier to setup new domains with a standard setup
[02:53] <winegoddess> rather than individually
[02:54] <saul> spanish
[02:54] <mop> any picture manager to find images by resolution?
[02:55] <marcelomauro> I need some help. Accidentaly I have installed grub on /dev/sda instead of /dev/sdb. There is how to unistall grub without loose my windows system?
[02:55] <somsip> mop: google images search tools has a size dropdown
[02:55] <somsip> mop: or do you want a scraper?
[02:55] <mop> somsip, I mean a native app
[02:55] <mop> for my picturds
[02:55] <fowl_> hi i cant find out how to setup the keyboard hotkeys for a Gateway LT4009u
[02:55] <fowl_> anybody know
[02:55] <felixonmars> winegoddess: no, you will just create & manage websites (incl. domains) on cpanel itself, if your server have cpanel installed
[02:56] <winegoddess> so it is more like a Web Host Manager (WHM) than a cpanel used for individual domains?
[02:56] <felixonmars> marcelomauro: you need your windows recovery disc to fix the boot record
[02:56] <winegoddess> sorry i only have used cpanel for one domain, not a server
[02:56] <felixonmars> winegoddess: cpanel is multi-user program
[02:57] <felixonmars> winegoddess: and it's fine if you want all your domains in one user
[02:57] <somsip> mop: I missed the obvious. For a local search or internet search?
[02:58] <mop> you know like image files on my hard drive
[02:58] <felixonmars> winegoddess: https://blog.cpanel.net/managing-multiple-domains-from-a-single-cpanel-account/ \official blog
[02:58] <fowl_> hi i cant find out how to setup the keyboard hotkeys for a Gateway LT4009u
[02:58] <marcelomauro> felixonmars, I have no disk because I upgrade my windows from win7 to win 8
[02:59] <winegoddess> so sorry felixonmars - for my misunderstanding.   i have a server, and i wish to have ~20 domains setup. i was just going to have ssh and ftp, but perhaps a cpanel will be good to allow others a UI for access.   are you saying i setup 1 cpanel for the server and everyone access it (not what i want) or that setup 1 cpanel, and someone then further configure to setup the domains? (i justhavent seen a cpanel like that if i a
[02:59] <winegoddess> understanding correctly)
[02:59] <Dreki> Does anyone know of an application that could be used to make a professional looking pdf like this one?:http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6781003/EvE/Quick%20Reference%20Sheet%20by%20Korgan%20Nailo.pdf
[02:59] <DarkAceLaptop> am I supposed to build tar.gz's myself, then?
[02:59] <felixonmars> marcelomauro: if i recall correctly, you could download a tool from microsoft's website to create a usb stick to recover this
[03:00] <DarkAceLaptop> also, the download was corrupt, somsip, felixonmars
[03:00] <DarkAceLaptop> it was missing 1/4 of itself
[03:00] <Novimundus> Hi everyone. I can't for the life of me figure out how to update my OpenGL drivers past 1.4. My understanding is that these drivers for Intel HD 4000 integrated gpu's come with the kernel...yet there's a later release? How do I get said later release?
[03:01] <winegoddess> felixonmars: thanks for that link - i did not know about this approach
[03:01] <felixonmars> winegoddess: you setup a cpanel, then everything's up to you. if you want different guys to control different sites and domains, just register them individual accounts on your installed cpanel
[03:02] <felixonmars> DarkAceLaptop: just redownload the deb file and install the not corrupted one
[03:02] <DarkAceLaptop> yeah
[03:02] <DarkAceLaptop> done
[03:02] <DarkAceLaptop> are tar.gz files packages, or just compressed files that you don't install?
[03:03] <DarkAceLaptop> install like .deb files, that is
[03:03] <somsip> mop: find will do that. eg: find . -type f -size +1G
[03:03] <somsip> mop: you just need to adapt to only find files ending in jpg|png|gif etc
[03:03] <itsnotlupus> Hi. are there ways to tweak how ubuntu thinks my battery is charging/discharging?
[03:03] <somsip> DarkAceLaptop: you extract then with tar zxf filename
[03:04] <felixonmars> DarkAceLaptop: sorry i didnt catch it. deb files are just compressed archive in a normative way
[03:07] <itsnotlupus> Alright. I'm going to try playing with TLP. still open to suggestions though.
[03:13] <Katronix> Hi all, I have a laptop that I installed Ubuntu on, during the install phase it detected my wireless nic fine, however now it keeps asking me for the wifi pw even though its been put in correctly. Any suggestions?
[03:15] <boink__> Katronix, is it the right kind of password set (WEP vs WAP, etc) ?
[03:16] <Katronix> boink__ I'm assuming so it never asked
[03:16] <boink__> no idea then :)
[03:16] <boink__> i am noob :P
[03:17] <boink__> why is my ifconfig only showing lo and no eth0 ? clean install of 12.04
[03:17] <boink__> i am lost
[03:17] <Katronix> boink__ would assume it doesn't see your nic
[03:18] <boink__> nic as in network information center?
[03:18] <boink__> a dns problem you mean?
[03:18] <Katronix> nic = network interface card
[03:19] <boink__> so updating the drivers of my NIC should do the trick?
[03:19] <Katronix> yep
[03:19] <nevyn> boink__: ifconfig only shows up interfaces
[03:19] <nevyn> try ifconfig -a or (better) ip link
[03:20] <boink__> uplink 1: lo: <LOOPBACK>   blhalhblahbalhba and then 00:00:00 all zeroes
[03:20] <boink__> ip link
[03:20] <boink__> i read on google a lot of people having this problem but couldn't really fix it with any of the suggestions
[03:32] <penos> hello comrades
[03:36] <zivester> anyone know how to restore reFind on a Macbook after upgrading OSX ?
[03:36] <penos> ???
[03:37] <Katronix> can anyone offer any suggestions? during installation had no issues finding wireless nic, now it keeps asking me for my wireless pw not accepting the correct pw
[03:40] <itsnotlupus> Ok, my /sys/class/power_supply/BAT1/power_now contains a stupid high value when my laptop is charging. Is there a known way to change that? It's causing ubuntu to think I'll have a full charge in 3 minutes rather than the two hours it actually takes.
[03:44] <servvs> so I haven't been able to use my TTY terminals since I upgraded to 13.04, is this a common issue and if so, how can I fix it?
[03:46] <Katronix> servvs what happens when you try?
[03:46] <somsip> zivester: probably, a channel for OSX support. Not here
[03:46] <servvs> when I log in, it logs in just fine but instantly goes back to requesting a login
[03:47] <boink__> is there a way to connect ossx and ubuntu via USB cable?
[03:47] <zivester> somsip, eh, its not.. reFind is used to boot ubuntu... but i figured it out, just had to run install.sh again
[03:47] <boink__> no pen drive, no network in ubuntu, no cd-r on the osx :(
[03:47] <somsip> zivester: so it is. I never heard of it before. now I have :)
[03:48] <histo> servvs: sudo service tty1 status
[03:49] <servvs> histo: tty1 start/running, process 3746
[03:49] <itsnotlupus> haha. I have an ideapad, but this could be related http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/acpi/battery.c#L99
[03:49] <Katronix> can anyone offer any suggestions? during installation had no issues finding wireless nic, now it keeps asking me for my wireless pw not accepting the correct pw
[03:50] <histo> servvs: do you have anything goofy in your .profile or .bashrc ?
[03:50] <servvs> alias ls="ls --color=always"
[03:50] <servvs> alias l="ls --color=always"
[03:50] <servvs> just those 2 lines
[03:51] <histo> servvs: do you have .bash_profile  ?
[03:51] <servvs> yes, same lines in it
[03:53] <histo> servvs: and a .profile?
[03:53] <AdventureTime> Does anybody here use Ncmpcpp, I'm having some troubles getting it to work !
[03:53] <AdventureTime> anyone ?
[03:54] <servvs> histo: I don't have a .profile
[03:55] <histo> servvs: interesting.... regardless I have no idea what is causing the login to restart.  Let me poke around a bit hold up.
[03:55] <|kira> I'm having a hard time choosing mint cinnamon... or ubuntu with cinnamon... I'm not sure will be more stable.
[03:55] <marcelomauro> I accidentally installed grub in /dev/sda instead of /dev/sdb. Can I remove this without erase my windows system? I found something on internet but it needs a install cd. I have no one.
[03:56] <histo> marcelomauro: you'd have to use a windows disk to fixmbr c:  or whatever their command is
[03:56] <|kira> you could just leave the grub there and put another where you want
[03:56] <histo> marcelomauro: doesn't really matter. If you want grub to work it needs to be installed to the bootable disk of your computer.
[03:57] <histo> servvs: did you try searching askubuntu.com ?
[03:57] <marcelomauro> histo: I installed ubuntu on extern hd...
[03:58] <histo> marcelomauro: how do you intend on booting to it?  just selecting the external from bios?
[03:58] <grimeton> marcelomauro: the later windows versions use the bootrec tool
[03:59] <marcelomauro> histo: I have used like this without problem, but I should have installed grub on /dev/sdb instead /dev/sda. It was my mistake
[03:59] <histo> servvs: could be something goofy with pam.  Have you checked dmesg or /var/log/messages ?
[04:00] <digs> So, I installed #29-Ubuntu SMP on AWS. I log in and there are 68 processes running and 226MB of ram already being used! What can I disable or uninstall to lower those numbers drastically?
[04:00] <|kira> cli ubuntu sing 226MB???
[04:00] <digs> I only need to be able to run apache and varnish on this, but I want as much resources free for those as possible.
[04:00] <nevyn> digs: used?
[04:00] <histo> marcelomauro: well /j #windows they will be able to explain the process of restoring your MBR on /dev/sda  You need to boot to a windows disk or system repair disk to fix it.
[04:00] <digs> yes...
[04:00] <digs> KiB Mem:    603840 total,   225608 used,   378232 free,     8676 buffers
[04:00] <nevyn> digs: what does the second line of free say?
[04:00] <digs> That is from top.
[04:01] <elisa87> what's the solution to this? warning: can't open /etc/mtab: No such file or directory
[04:01] <nevyn> screw top. what does free say?
[04:01] <digs> Mem:        603840     225632     378208          0       8676     170496
[04:01] <digs> -/+ buffers/cache:      46460     557380
[04:01] <nevyn> so 46meg used.
[04:01] <digs> oh.
[04:01] <nevyn> meh. seems legit
[04:02] <digs> gotcha. I didn't realize that. Thanks for the clarification. That seems _much_ better to me :/
[04:02] <nevyn> so you could start by interpeting the data correctly also http://www.linuxatemyram.com
[04:02] <tones>  /join #wikipedia
[04:02] <digs> Still, 68 processes, surely some of those could be knocked off.
[04:02] <nevyn> possibly. but probably not.
[04:02] <somsip> digs: seems about right. I have about 80 with apache and a few other things running on Ubuntu EC2
[04:02] <digs> I know it is right.
[04:03] <nevyn> digs: so lots of stuff is running..
[04:03] <digs> I am saying, there has to be a way to lower it. FreeBSD can run on half this on a base install.
[04:03] <Safa_[A_boy]> Hi, I have more than one kernel on my computer, but I can't select witch one should boot.... the menu has disappeared!
[04:03] <nevyn> you've got a bunch of gettys cron, upstart syslog etc
[04:04] <|kira> Is there an ubuntu iso that is free software only and no legal BS for distribution?
[04:04] <elisa87> histo: do you know why am I receiving this  ? mounting filesystems...152 warning: can't open /etc/mtab: No such      ...file or directory
[04:04] <elisa87>  
[04:04] <digs> I was simply asking if any gurus in here knew of a few things that are not really needed that could be killed off.
[04:04] <histo> elisa87: what command are you using to mount?
[04:04] <histo> !atemyram | digs
[04:04] <xangua> |kira: http://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
[04:05] <GunArm1> /etc/rc.local is supposed to run at startup right?  why does the inside of it say it "executes at the end of each multiuser runlevel" what does that mean?
[04:05] <b-ot> GunArm1: I am not in it.
[04:05] <histo> GunArm1: yes it runs at start.  There are different runlevels
[04:05] <somsip> GunArm1: it doesn't run at some runlevels, such as single user
[04:06] <elisa87> histo: can you please look at this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763549/ ? I used sudo mount /dev/loop1 /mnt/mount_x86  and then used debootstrap and binded dev , proc and sys
[04:06] <|kira> xangua: tris is a nice distro, but i need a bs-free ubuntu iso... hmmm....
[04:07] <histo> elisa87: what are you trying to do?
[04:08] <histo> elisa87: mtab is just a status file btw.
[04:08] <histo> |kira: The main iso contains only free software.  You could not enable the other repos if you want.
[04:09] <histo> |kira: http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/licensing
[04:10] <|kira> histo: Ah, good, stock image should be ok then.
[04:10] <elisa87> I have created that bootable linux disk and I am trying to run the binaries inside it using the simulator but the binaries are not found from within the simulator inside the disk! histo
[04:11] <histo> !free > |kira
[04:12] <histo> servvs: I got nothing I would search askubuntu or in the forums.
[04:12] <histo> elisa87: why are you creating /dev/loop1?
[04:12] <histo> elisa87: and what simulator?
[04:13] <elisa87> histo gem5 I will show you the log now soon
[04:13] <elisa87> I created a disk image formated with fs ext2 and put it in /dev/loop1
[04:15] <histo> elisa87: I would ask here http://gem5.org/Mailing_Lists
[04:15] <elisa87> they answer so late,..sometimes they don't answer at all!
[04:16] <histo> elisa87: when you say you "put it in /dev/loop1"  with what procedure?
[04:17] <elisa87> histo:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763563/ everything regarding boot of linux works fine except that it doesn't find the binaries ...my mount point is /mnt/mount_x86 and binaries are in /rodinia/openmp/backprop folder ...please let me know how is your idea
[04:17] <servvs> thanks for the help histo, will search around some more
[04:18] <histo> elisa87: are the binaries in /mnt/mount_x86  ?? I'm confused I know nothing of gem5
[04:18] <elisa87> histo the binaries are in /mnt/mount_x86/rodinia/openmp/backprop folder but my mount point is /mnt/mount_x86
[04:19] <histo> elisa87: This is an issue with whatever software you are using.
[04:19] <histo> elisa87: what does any of this have to do with ubuntu?
[04:19] <elisa87> because it's about mounting ... I have created the disk image using ubuntu
[04:19] <BabyCat> hey guys, I'm on ubuntu 12.04.. I go to a specific site, called Eli the Computer guy.. and for whatever reason, the site damages my web browser from using the internet.. this happens only with that site.. then I have to restart ubuntu to get back my internet connection.. this happens with no other site.. anyone have any ideas what this might be? I have my DOM storage on the browser turned to false and I use privoxy as a system wide proxy and that seems to
[04:19] <BabyCat> have something to do with it.. all my other network connections like the software center seem to work but firefox seems to clunk out before needing to reboot the entire system. This look familiar to anyone???
[04:20] <walltender> http://askubuntu.com/questions/306920/networking-prevents-system-to-shutdown
[04:21] <histo> elisa87: there are also help files on the gem5 website http://www.m5sim.org/Ubuntu_Disk_Image_for_ARM_Full_System
[04:21] <BabyCat> It's like the site works for a couple minutes then kraps out the web browser all together before having to be restarted completely to get it back.. and it only happens with this site.. how strange is this..
[04:23] <elisa87> histo: I was already following that!
[04:23] <histo> elisa87: I have no idea. Perhaps try in ##linux
[04:26] <Sir-Litepool> i did some updating
[04:26] <Sir-Litepool> and now my mysql is messed up
[04:26] <Sir-Litepool> Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'
[04:27] <KrisHansen> I still cant find the file i need to edit in order to get my links in irc to open Firefox browser, when i click a link it opens abiword blank doc. anyone know of this or how to fix?
[04:28] <histo> Sir-Litepool: sudo service mysqld status
[04:28] <Katronix> my boot disk can connect wirelessly successfully but the installed version can't is there anything I can do with the boot disk that would tell the installed version how to work? anything I can save to a usb stick etc?
[04:28] <Sir-Litepool> i tried manually connecting
[04:28] <Sir-Litepool> ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run
[04:29] <Sir-Litepool> histo, sudo service mysqld status
[04:29] <Sir-Litepool> mysqld: unrecognized service
[04:29] <somsip> Sir-Litepool: anything in /var/log/mysql/error.log ?
[04:29] <theadmin> KrisHansen: Make sure System Settings -> Details -> Default applications is set to Firefox, like this: http://i.imgur.com/k0FXKm1.png
[04:29] <histo> Sir-Litepool: do you have mysql-server installed and is it running?
[04:30] <Sir-Litepool> yeah i do, error log has a lot of things like 4985 lines
[04:30] <KrisHansen> theadmin: checked that already it is not the issue.
[04:30] <somsip> Sir-Litepool: anything that tells you the problem? Maybe if you pastebin the last few lines?
[04:30] <somsip> !pastebin | Sir-Litepool
[04:30] <theadmin> KrisHansen: Hm, what is of your IRC client?
[04:30] <KrisHansen> theadmin: Konversation
[04:31] <histo> theadmin: /version KrisHansen
[04:31] <Tex_Nick> BabyCat "Eli The Computer Guy" is that the guy with little head hair, a beard and a ear to ear mouth full of white teeth ... if so ...he's supposed to be a network type guy, you might ask him that question ... orview his videos on youTube
[04:31] <Sir-Litepool> the thing is, i did sudo apt-add-repository ppa:purplekarrot/ppa
[04:31] <Katronix> anyone?
[04:31] <Sir-Litepool> sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:31] <theadmin> histo: Eh, easier to ask :D /version can sometimes fail
[04:31] <KrisHansen> theadmin: it might have something to do with that i ran the sudo apt-get lubuntu-desktop, once that it changed
[04:31] <Sir-Litepool> and recently it was stalling so i rebooted it
[04:31] <somsip> Sir-Litepool: and what that that install? /var/log/apt/history will tell you
[04:31] <theadmin> KrisHansen: Ah, hm, I think that has it's own browser preference somewhere, Konversation that is
[04:31] <histo> !ppa | Sir-Litepool
[04:31] <Katronix> my DVD boot disk can connect wirelessly successfully but the installed version can't is there anything I can do with the boot disk that would tell the installed version how to work? anything I can save to a usb stick etc?
[04:32] <kde185> anyone know why webmin is showing available partitions for a new software raid device as FAT32?  I just cleared the mbr and gpt tables and create a new partition on the driver as "linux raid"
[04:32] <histo> Katronix: you need firmware
[04:32] <walltender> Will some one take a look at my problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/306920/networking-prevents-system-to-shutdown?
[04:32] <theadmin> KrisHansen: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/extragear-network/konversation/webbrowser.html
[04:32] <histo> Katronix: lspci | grep Network     What is your wireless chipset?
[04:32] <Katronix> histo rtl8723ae
[04:32] <Sir-Litepool> somsip, http://paste2.org/DddsIsU2
[04:33] <histo> Katronix: iwlist scan
[04:34] <somsip> Sir-Litepool: no mysql from what I can see. So what's in the error log?
[04:34] <Sir-Litepool> somsip, http://paste2.org/ZPn4yOZ9
[04:34] <Katronix> histo its not installed :( I don't have a way of giving it a wired connection :(
[04:35] <histo> Katronix: what version are you running?
[04:35] <KrisHansen> theadmin: it was a Konversation settings issue , damn i almost checked that last night when i was stoned, but then i woke up today and havent fired up yet so my brain is still in the bad dreams mode. need my spliff for this morning and thank you i got it .
[04:35] <somsip> Sir-Litepool: is there a file at /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock? who is it owned by?
[04:35] <Katronix> histo 13.04
[04:35] <histo> Katronix: your card should work in any 3.8+ linux kernel
[04:35] <Katronix> histo it sees the card, but I get caught in an endless loop of "what's the pw"
[04:36] <Sir-Litepool> somsip, no such file and the directory is symlinked to /run/mysqld
[04:36] <histo> Katronix: so the issue isn't with your card.
[04:36] <histo> Katronix: make sure you are typing the password correctly
[04:36] <Katronix> histo possibly not, I just know it worked fine during the installation, checked the pw several times
[04:37] <histo> Katronix: http://askubuntu.com/questions/131919/wireless-keeps-asking-for-password
[04:37] <somsip> Sir-Litepool: you have something to work with now. I'm getting lots of google results with that error. I can sit here and say 'try this, try this' but it might be easier if you see if anything fits
[04:37] <histo> somsip: Sir-Litepool sounds like he has ppa hell
[04:38] <KrisHansen> So here is what happens, you install Ubuntu 13.04 and then you install Konversation irc. then you apt-get install lubuntu-desktop, something in that install will change your settings in Konversation to default web browser "not clicked"=nothing, and it will open an abiword doc.
[04:38] <somsip> histo: indeed. I think it's time for him to research more, and if it all goes pear shaped because of the PPA...well !ppa and all that
[04:38] <histo> elisa87: may I ask what you are trying to use gem5 for? Perhaps there is a better tool out there.
[04:38] <Sir-Litepool> somsip, any way i could backup the database and reinstall mysql
[04:39] <histo> KrisHansen: so change you default browser
[04:39] <BabyCat> is anyone here
[04:39] <BabyCat> asdfas
[04:39] <KrisHansen> histo: i did and theadminalready helped me and it solved the issue
[04:39] <somsip> Sir-Litepool: you could try reinstalling mysql-server. If you backup /var/lib/mysql you will have all of the data files in there. But YMMV and all that
[04:39] <BabyCat> is this working
[04:39] <somsip> !test | BabyCat
[04:40] <Sir-Litepool> somsip, i will do that then, what do you mean by YMMV?
[04:40] <somsip> Sir-Litepool: Your Mileage May Vary, eg: don't expect a successful result
[04:40] <Sir-Litepool> oh, damn this is just my luck
[04:41] <Katronix> histo no luck
[04:43] <histo> Katronix: did you try the multiple answers there?
[04:43] <histo> Katronix: if so perhaps try using another method for connecting other than network-manager
[04:44] <Katronix> histo from the install dvd can I install that tool you recommended since I can see the net from it?
[04:44] <histo> Katronix: or the nm-cli command
[04:45] <histo> Katronix: sorry nmcli
[04:45] <Sir-Litepool> histo any idea what i should do
[04:46] <Sir-Litepool> i think i run out of luck
[04:46] <histo> !ppapurge | Sir-Litepool
[04:46] <Jesse_V> I have a question about package naming conventions, which I found confusing. If (theoretically) I coded up a project, which I call "derp", and it's version 0.05, and the package doesn't exist in either Debian or Ubuntu, how do I name it? "derp-0.05-0ubuntu1" is my current guess
[04:47] <meatmanek> Jesse_V you're building your own .deb for it?
[04:47] <Jesse_V> yeah meatmanek, I will but I need to get the naming right
[04:47] <meatmanek> so everything after the - is pretty much up to the distro maintainer
[04:48] <Jesse_V> dh_make generates a changelog file, which has a version number in it
[04:48] <meatmanek> so the ubuntu project might have -0ubuntu1
[04:48] <Jesse_V> and I want to get that right, along with the correct name of the package folder
[04:48] <Sir-Litepool> thanks histo giving it a shot
[04:48] <meatmanek> whereas debian may have -0debian1
[04:48] <Sir-Litepool> Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: purplekarrot ppa
[04:48] <Sir-Litepool>  histo
[04:48] <Jesse_V> right. I'm running Mint 14 at the moment, and if I build for that, I'm building for quantal. Do I need to say that?
[04:48] <histo> Sir-Litepool: what were you trying to use a ppa for btw?
[04:49] <histo> Sir-Litepool: also what are you doing when the mysql error happens?
[04:49] <Sir-Litepool> to install libbost1.47 and over histo
[04:49] <Jesse_V> I just created my own PPA yesterday, and I'm in the process of working on correctly building things and uploading them to Launchpad :)
[04:49] <Sir-Litepool> well i did update after ppa
[04:49] <Sir-Litepool> well it worked fine, and someone ddosed me
[04:50] <Sir-Litepool> then i rebooted and it messed up
[04:50] <histo> Sir-Litepool: Ahh well you failed to mention that.
[04:50] <histo> Sir-Litepool: what do you use mysql for?
[04:50] <Sir-Litepool> queries
[04:50] <Jesse_V> duh
[04:50] <histo> Sir-Litepool: sudo service mysql status
[04:50] <hejki> ohai guys, i'm trying to compile stuff with -m32 on 13.04 (amd64), i seem to be missing all .so's from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu, e.g. my libSM http://dpaste.com/1237581/
[04:50] <meatmanek> Jesse_V: no, you don't need to specify. It's generally a convention that indicates who made the package. I'd maybe use "jessev" instead of ubuntu
[04:50] <Sir-Litepool> histo sudo service mysql status
[04:50] <kalakj> hi
[04:50] <Jesse_V> meatmanek: why's that?
[04:50] <kalakj> all
[04:50] <Sir-Litepool> sorry histo mysql respawn/post-start, (post-start) process 10048
[04:51] <histo> Sir-Litepool: yes I told you mysqld before.
[04:51] <hejki> if i manually symlink the .so.x as .so, the linker works
[04:51] <meatmanek> Jesse_V: because you aren't an official package maintainer for the ubuntu project
[04:51] <Jesse_V> meatmanek: oh right, I see
[04:51] <histo> Sir-Litepool: sudo service mysql restart    then what were you doing when you get the sock error?
[04:51] <Jesse_V> meatmanek: so then "derp-0.05-0jvictors1" would be correct then?
[04:51] <meatmanek> should be fine, yeah
[04:52] <Aegon> join archlinux
[04:52] <Jesse_V> which would turn into "derp-0.05-0jessev1_amd64.deb"
[04:52] <Jesse_V> right?
[04:52] <Jesse_V> I just don't want to look like a newb, that's all :)
[04:53] <Jesse_V> even though I am at building packages like this
[04:53] <Sir-Litepool> histo restarting does not respond just says stop/waiting, i tried connecting through python didn't help, through php didn't help, through command line and it still gave ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) after entering password
[04:53] <Jesse_V> half the battle is making it look like you know what you're doing
[04:53] <histo> !dev | Jesse_V
[04:53] <Jesse_V> thanks
[04:53] <Jesse_V> not at the moment, I'd like to start with just my Launchpad PPA and work up from there
[04:54] <theadmin> Jesse_V: Launchpad takes care of building the packages itself
[04:55] <Jesse_V> but I need to upload .changes, so don't I have to build stuff to generate that?
[04:55] <Jesse_V> maybe I don't understand the procedures
[04:55] <theadmin> Jesse_V: ...Oh. Well... I thought... Uh. I'm not into Ubuntu development myself and Debian packaging is confusing
[04:55] <theadmin> Jesse_V: But I think Launchpad does building anyways
[04:55] <Jesse_V> it does
[04:56] <Jesse_V> with 40,000 packages you'd think there'd be clear instructions instead of a steep learning curve
[04:57] <Jesse_V> but anyway, is "derp-0.05-0jessev1" -> "derp-0.05-0jessev1_amd64.deb" good for a package named "derp", of version "0.05", built for Quantal?
[04:57] <Jesse_V> maintained only by me, and which does not exist in Debian or Ubuntu?
[04:58] <theadmin> Jesse_V: Normally, ppa packages have stuff like 0ppa1 in the name, not 0jessev1
[04:58] <Jesse_V> ok, so if my ppa was named "testing", then I'd replace "jessev" with "testing"?
[04:59] <theadmin> Jesse_V: No, no, literally the string "ppa"
[04:59] <Jesse_V> what?
[04:59] <Jesse_V> "derp-0.05-ppa"?
[05:00] <Jesse_V> even with "ppa:jvictors/testing" as my PPA path?
[05:00] <theadmin> Well... All ppa packages I've seen have something are named like derp-version-0ppa1 or such, yes, literally "ppa", not "testing" or "ppaname"
[05:00] <Jesse_V> ah ok
[05:00] <drhester7> quick question
[05:00] <theadmin> But I may be wrong. Jesse_V, you may have more luck asking this in #ubuntu-packaging
[05:01] <Jesse_V> didn't know that channel existed...
[05:01] <drhester7> how difficult is it to customize ubuntu?
[05:01] <theadmin> drhester7: ...Depends on what you mean
[05:01] <Jesse_V> drhester7: easy, it's Linux :)
[05:01] <seronis> i have chrome-beta installed and the google entry added to sources.list so that it will auto update.  yesterdays update mentions it cant install because of  'unauthenticated dependancies'.  how do i see what those are?
[05:01] <histo> drhester7: what's your experience level?
[05:01] <histo> drhester7: and what customization do you want to do?
[05:01] <Jesse_V> drhester7: you can do everything from changing your background to recompiling your kernel. It's Linux after all
[05:01] <theadmin> seronis: Try updating from a terminal: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:02] <theadmin> seronis: It'll tell you where it has authentication issues
[05:03] <drhester7> my experience level is beginner but I learn quickly and I'm talking about modifications to the GUI and other stuff like that
[05:03] <Jesse_V> anyone else have any suggestions for my packaging naming question?
[05:04] <Sir-Litepool> histo you her?E
[05:04] <Sir-Litepool> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1861136
[05:04] <Sir-Litepool> you see it says the solution was to merge the two apparmor files
[05:04] <histo> drhester7: depends on the "modifications" you are speaking of on how difficult it will be for you.
[05:06] <drhester7> histo: basically I'm just trying to personalize it to me. I'm a windows user over mac so I like the minimize and close buttons on the right instead of left.
[05:06] <Jesse_V> drhester7: you can fix that in Ubuntu. Or you can switch to Linux Mint, which has that by default, and which is based on Ubuntu
[05:07]  * Jesse_V runs Mint 14
[05:07] <histo> drhester7: all that stuff is very easy
[05:07] <theadmin> Jesse_V: Please don't recommend unsupported derivatives
[05:08] <drhester7> histo: part of  this process is so that I can gain experience in computers all around
[05:08] <theadmin> drhester7: Having the buttons on the right in Ubuntu is problematic, considering they'll move to the left when you maximize the window anyway because it merges the titlebar with the top panel
[05:08] <Jesse_V> theadmin: well Mint isn't supported by Ubuntu, it's supported by the Mint team, so it is technically supported by them
[05:08] <theadmin> drhester7: As a Windows user, you may like the KDE desktop better (get Kubuntu or install the kubuntu-desktop package, click: http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/kubuntu-desktop )
[05:09] <theadmin> Jesse_V: I mean those not supported by this channel.
[05:09] <Jesse_V> drhester7: there's a setting for it, but it's been a while and I forget where it is
[05:09] <Jesse_V> ah, sorry then theadmin
[05:09] <Jesse_V> is Cinnamon supported?
[05:09] <Jesse_V> it's in the repos
[05:09] <badicalia> sup yall
[05:09] <theadmin> Jesse_V: Is in the Mint repos, not Ubuntu's
[05:09] <drhester7> theadmin: again more of it is for the experience. I like to figure stuff out but I need somewhere to start
[05:09] <theadmin> Oh, never mind
[05:09] <Katronix> histo oddly enough I brought my laptop physically closer to the router and it started working
[05:09] <theadmin> Jesse_V: It's in the Ubuntu ones, so I guess it's supported
[05:10] <Jesse_V> I thought you could install Cinnamon in Ubuntu from the standard repos, maybe not, sorry
[05:10] <theadmin> Jesse_V: Yeah, is in universe/x11
[05:10] <Jesse_V> that's what I thought
[05:10] <theadmin> Jesse_V: Just found it. Odd. Well anything in the repos is supported here
[05:10] <Jesse_V> drhester7: well then Cinnamon should put the buttons on the right side, and the desktop looks awesome IMO
[05:12] <R44TWR4NGNULL> hi
[05:16] <hejki> i'm attempting to make a 32bit build on amd64 13.04, however some of the 32bit packages i require want to remove my g++/gcc-multilib and libc6 -stuff, how do i manage around such packages?
[05:33] <wheatthin> hejki, I'm thinking you should look into multi-libs
[05:35] <bugtraq> zczx
[05:35] <magic_ninja> Ìû
[05:35] <clcto> troll alert
[05:38] <bugtraq> how to setting acces poin in ubuntu ??
[05:39] <Jesse_V> ?
[05:40] <scx> hello
[05:40] <scx> can anyone show me result of this command?: find /usr/lib* -iname "libGL.so*" | xargs dpkg -S
[05:40] <histo> bugtraq: are you just trying to share a connection?
[05:41] <irenicus09> how the hell did I end up in this channel lol
[05:41] <histo> scx: libgl1-mesa-glx
[05:41] <histo> scx: has libGL.so.1 and 1.2
[05:42] <scx> histo: thanks
[05:42] <SuperLag> I think I created /home on a drive without making a proper partition table on it first. gparted doesn't know what kind of table it is, but my data still exists in /home. I can't great a GPT non-destructively, can I?
[05:42] <histo> scx: also the /usr/lib* should be just /usr/lib
[05:43] <histo> scx: and apt-file maybe helpful for you.
[05:43] <histo> !find libGL.so
[05:44] <histo> SuperLag: have you looked at sudo parted -l output
[05:44] <histo> SuperLag: also how are you mounting it?
[05:44] <scx> histo: not on 64-bit system
[05:44] <scx> histo: there is /usr/lib and /usr/lib64
[05:45] <theadmin> SuperLag: If you created a filesystem on a drive instead of a partition, then I guess you can't exactly create a partition table without losing the data
[05:45] <histo> scx: not on my system
[05:45] <histo> theadmin: unless the fs starts after the first sector which I doubt
[05:46] <deller> hi guys
[05:46] <deller> anyone here?
[05:46] <Jesse_V> hello
[05:46] <somsip> !anyone | deller
[05:46] <histo> deller: no we are all hiding
[05:46] <Jesse_V> ^
[05:47]  * histo loves that people join a channel with 1500+ and ask if anyone is here
[05:47] <deller> lol
[05:47] <Jesse_V> hahaha
[05:47] <histo> deller: /who
[05:47] <Jesse_V> #fail
[05:47] <kit-kat> hi to enable pseudo terminal (/dev/pts) kernel driver is enough or is it need some more extra packages ?
[05:47] <deller> you guys realize that online doesnt mean actually here
[05:48] <deller> anyways, i got a question about socket programming
[05:48] <citric-> I have installed "Terminology" and changed a video setting, now Terminology starts but as a blank application (worthless) so I tried uninstalled with apt-get remove --purge terminology but it still keeps the settings when i try to reinstall so it's still worthless for me, any suggestions?
[05:48] <deller> trying to send data from one program to another using UDP on locahost
[05:48] <deller> but apparently i cant bind two sockets on th same address on the same machine
[05:48] <theadmin> citric-: Most apps store settings either under ~/.appname or ~/.config/appname
[05:48] <theadmin> citric-: That is, those that run as a regular user
[05:48] <deller> basically i want full duplex communication over UDP on the same machine
[05:48] <deller> is this possible>
[05:49] <histo> deller: what language are you writting in?
[05:49] <deller> c
[05:49] <citric-> theadmin, thanks, i will look into it.
[05:49] <histo> writing/coding
[05:49] <histo> deller: I would ask in a c channel
[05:49] <theadmin> deller: Try ##c
[05:49] <deller> k thanks
[05:50] <citric-> What is a preferred app to remotely connect to another ubuntu desktop on the same network ?
[05:50] <theadmin> citric-: Eh, depends. Terminal connection? Definetly ssh. Full desktop? You can use VNC. TeamViewer is also an option, and is definetly the easiest to configure.
[05:51] <citric-> theadmin, does SSH require any configuration or can I just ssh user@ip and good to go?
[05:51] <SuperLag> histo: when I set it up, I just did mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb1
[05:51] <theadmin> citric-: Well, you can as long as the server machine (one you're connecting to) has openssh-server installed
[05:51] <theadmin> citric-: (and running)
[05:51] <citric-> ahh.
[05:52] <histo> SuperLag: then you have a partition of /dev/sdb1   what is the problem you are experiencing?
[05:52] <SuperLag> histo: like this: UUID=ea891955-9dc7-4012-803c-91d561764c83 /home           ext4    nodev,nosuid      0       2
[05:53] <SuperLag> histo: I just added a third hard drive. And mSATA SSD. When I started up gparted, that's when it referenced the second drive, and said it didn't know the partition table type
[05:53]  * SuperLag might be a little nuts... 3 SSDs in his laptop. :)
[05:54] <histo> SuperLag: are you sure you aren't selecting the wrong drive?
[05:54] <nevyn> I should get a mSATA drive.
[05:54] <histo> SuperLag: sudo blkid
[05:54] <histo> SuperLag: paste the output of that to paste.ubuntu.com also lsblk  wouldn't hurt
[05:55] <citric-> theadmin, you run unity? or gnome?
[05:55] <theadmin> citric-: Unity, why does that even matter?
[05:55] <citric-> theadmin, was just a poll :D
[05:56] <histo> !poll | citric-
[05:56] <SuperLag> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5763710/
[05:57] <murlidhar> flashplugin-installer: downloading http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/a/adobe-flashplugin/adobe-flashplugin_11.2.202.291.orig.tar.gz
[05:57] <murlidhar> am stuck up here.
[05:57] <murlidhar> it is not downloading at all
[05:57] <histo> SuperLag: well /dev/sdb1 is there so I still don't understand what your problem is
[05:57] <citric-> histo, don't remember asking you a question. or your input.
[05:57] <histo> citric-: didn't respond to a question
[05:58] <citric-> did you read the last part, about your input?
[05:58] <citric-> thanks :)
[05:58] <histo> !attitude | citric-
[05:58] <IdleOne> citric-: histo was trying to explain one of the channel rules.
[05:58] <citric-> it's ok, i ignored him now :)
[05:58] <IdleOne> you might want to read them
[05:58] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[05:59] <SuperLag> histo: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-06132013-105836pm.php
[06:00] <theadmin> SuperLag: sudo file -s /dev/sdb, what does that give you?
[06:00] <SuperLag> histo: it just seems odd, that's all. Why would gparted show it as unallocated, when it definitely *is* allocated, and currently in use, even?
[06:00] <histo> SuperLag: no idea why gparted is being weird you'd have to have /dev/sdb1 not mounted to mess with it anyways
[06:01] <SuperLag> theadmin: /dev/sdb: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0x83, starthead 1, startsector 63, 1000215153 sectors, extended partition table (last)\011, code offset 0x0
[06:01] <theadmin> SuperLag: ...looks fine, I dunno. GParted is just being weird I guess
[06:01] <theadmin> SuperLag: It's not a perfect program
[06:01] <histo> SuperLag: looks fine
[06:02] <SuperLag> theadmin: What?! not perfection?! :O
[06:02] <SuperLag> ;)
[06:03] <yugandhar> Hi, I wish comment multiple lines in /etc/network/interface file at a time.  How can we do it ?
[06:04] <yugandhar> is there any way to do it at a time?
[06:04] <yugandhar> please help me
[06:04] <theadmin> yugandhar: Uh, well, depends on your text editor. With vi, :11,15s/^/#/
[06:04] <theadmin> yugandhar: Where 11 and 15 are the first and last line you wish to comment
[06:04] <F_XZ> and also, for vim, the block visual mode can also do that.
[06:04] <yugandhar> oh, thanks alot
[06:05] <yugandhar> theadmin:  Thanks a lot
[06:05] <theadmin> yugandhar: Many text editors have a "comment line" option which you can use with selections, too
[06:06] <SuperLag> histo: theadmin: This came up when I was attempting to create a partition table on /dev/sdc http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-06132013-110546pm.php
[06:07] <theadmin> SuperLag: Hm...
[06:07] <theadmin> SuperLag: I dunno, looks like a broken GPT then
[06:07] <SuperLag> maybe I should copy my data off of /dev/sdb, create a new GPT table, and put it back.
[06:07] <Sir-Litepool> im trying to merge 2 app armours like in here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1861136
[06:07] <Sir-Litepool> not sure how to
[06:07] <SuperLag> I just don't want to lose data
[06:12] <SuperLag> The ThinkPad W530 is a nice laptop to run Linux on.
[06:12] <SuperLag> It's been great.
[06:12] <SuperLag> and being able to take 32GB of RAM... love it
[06:16] <histo> SuperLag: how did you partition /dev/sdc
[06:16] <histo> SuperLag: or I should say with what tool?
[06:17] <histo> yugandhar: you could also probably use sed
[06:19] <yugandhar> histo : Could you please give me the command?
[06:21] <histo> yugandhar: which line numbers?
[06:22] <histo> yugandhar: sed '1,10s/^/#/' somefile  would start lines 1 through 10 with #
[06:23] <yugandhar> histo: Thanks a lot
[06:23] <JennyBlueBird> hi guys , is there any easy way to force network manager to only use a particular hotspot or do I have to do it manually for that ?
[06:23] <histo> yugandhar: you'd have to use -i  to actually do it inline
[06:23] <we6jbo> Hi
[06:23] <histo> yugandhar: or I should say inplace vs just printing the changes to stdout
[06:23] <anders__> Question: I'm wanting to "upgrade" from 32 bit to 64 bit. On the installation type screen, can I choose "Reinstall" or do I have to completely reformat the drive?
[06:24] <we6jbo> I have a question
[06:24] <histo> anders__: format
[06:24] <histo> !ask | we6jbo
[06:24] <anders__> Thank you!
[06:25] <JennyBlueBird> anders__, you can probably keep your user settings if you got them on a separate partition, but the entire system, including all programs, must be reinstalled
[06:25] <we6jbo> I was wondering if there is a program that would let me run a command and then wait for the command to finish before running a different command
[06:25] <JennyBlueBird> we6jbo,   if I'm not mistaken && will do that
[06:25] <anders__> we6jbo: I think && would work.
[06:25] <we6jbo> At later times though
[06:26] <JennyBlueBird> we6jbo,    i.e  firefox && echo "firefox has finished"
[06:26] <JennyBlueBird> program 1 && sleep <lots of time> && program 2
[06:27] <we6jbo> Like for instance if I ran wget http://example.com/file1.zip and then in 5min I wanted to run wget -c example.com/file2.zip but I wanted the first wget process to finish before running the second one
[06:27] <we6jbo> just using wget as an example
[06:27] <F_XZ> we6jbo: you can try run wget files from a list.
[06:27] <JennyBlueBird> wget 1 && sleep <5 minutes> && wget 2
[06:28] <we6jbo> yeah but i would have already done wget 1 and then hit enter
[06:28] <we6jbo> lets say it takes 30min to download that file
[06:28] <histo> we6jbo: well wget can use file lists
[06:28] <anders__> we6jbo: Couldn't you just open a new terminal tab/window?
[06:29] <histo> we6jbo: you can add your links to a text file called lets say filelist  and then wget -i filelist
[06:29] <we6jbo> yeah
[06:29] <JennyBlueBird> we6jbo, you basically want a command that checks if another process is running and start if it has finished ?
[06:29] <histo> we6jbo: or just wget file1 && wget file2
[06:29] <we6jbo> that would work
[06:29] <histo> we6jbo: using && waits for the first command to finish successfully before starting the next
[06:30] <we6jbo> I like JennyBlueBird 's idea
[06:30] <we6jbo> I dont know how to do that though
[06:30] <JennyBlueBird> we6jbo, it depends what you want to do tbh
[06:30] <JennyBlueBird> we6jbo, what exactky is the issue with && ?
[06:30] <JennyBlueBird> it seems to do what you want
[06:30] <we6jbo> cause I would have already entered the command
[06:31] <we6jbo> I dont know maybe I'm over thinking it
[06:31] <JennyBlueBird> why can't you enter the two comands at the same time ?
[06:31] <we6jbo> the webmaster gets mad
[06:31] <histo> we6jbo: you can use the at command to schedule something to be done
[06:31] <JennyBlueBird> we6jbo, huh? how would he know ?
[06:32] <we6jbo> Yeah I was thinking using at but I'd need the first command to finish though
[06:32] <histo> we6jbo: at 4:30pm cat /your/mom
[06:32] <histo> we6jbo: then write a script to monitor the pid of the first command
[06:32] <we6jbo> yeah that would be good
[06:32] <we6jbo> here I'll get one of his emails
[06:32] <JennyBlueBird> we6jbo, && does not execute the comands simulatenously. It executes the first one, and then runs the second if the first one finishes with a successful termination
[06:33] <we6jbo> ok here's one. He basically says that I'm downloading too much stuff and it's costing him money
[06:33] <histo> we6jbo: if you just want to run one command after another regardless of the first one use somecommand ; someothercommand
[06:33] <JennyBlueBird> we6jbo, so if you want to wait a little between two commands, just do:   wget file1 &&  wait <time>  && wget file2
[06:34] <aeon-ltd> we6jbo: what is it hosting?
[06:34] <we6jbo> Yeah I do that for now but sometimes I like to wget the command then wait awhile and I might decided to wget something else
[06:34] <we6jbo> I think it's on his own server
[06:34] <SuperLag> histo: I was going to use gparted for /dev/sdc, but I used gdisk instead. Created GPT, then one fs using the entire drive... formatted as ext4.
[06:34] <histo> SuperLag: No idea why do you need gparted since you used gdisk?
[06:34] <RazLaptop> Anyone here buy ZaReason servers before? It shipped with a login and I have no idea what the password or login is
[06:35] <we6jbo> I might try the at and the pid
[06:35] <we6jbo> that might work
[06:35] <SuperLag> histo: I *just* got gdisk. Tried gparted the very first time around.
[06:35] <wheatthin> RazLaptop, I dont think that's an ubuntu question
[06:35] <SuperLag> histo: s/Tried/Used
[06:36] <we6jbo> ok I'm going to bed. Thank you all for your help and thank you histo and JennyBlueBird for the idea of using at and pid.
[06:36] <JennyBlueBird> we6jbo, if you have some foresight you might run wget file1 && ./bashscript
[06:36] <JennyBlueBird> then just change ./bashscript if you want to do some more stuff
[06:37] <JennyBlueBird> or use ; instead of &&
[06:37] <tones>  /join #windows
[06:38] <RazLaptop> wheatthin, server comes with ubuntu preconigured, and the company card cites the freenode channel, I figured it was worth a shot :\
[06:38] <RazLaptop> sucks because I have to configure this server tonight D:
[06:38] <wheatthin> RazLaptop, I'd lookup the faq on their website
[06:39] <RazLaptop> wheatthin, I did, nothing :(
[06:40] <anders__> wheatthin: As a last ditch effort you could just reinstall the OS.
[06:40] <wheatthin> anders_ huh?
[06:41] <wheatthin> RazLaptop, If all else fails, you can boot a live ubuntu cd/dvd and chroot into your installation and set the password then
[06:41] <anders__> wheatthin: Just reinstall Ubuntu. Or Ubuntu server.
[06:42] <wheatthin> anders_ I didn't have any questions.
[06:42] <RazLaptop> wheatthin, yeah it ships with the CD, I just was hoping to get the machine and do a few apt-get's for what I needed, I don't even know what raid card they put in there
[06:42] <anders__> wheatthin: Oops. :) My bad. I read the wrong nick.
[06:42] <SuperLag> What are the proper options for /home in /etc/fstab?
[06:43] <SuperLag> nodev,nosuid ?
[06:43] <SuperLag> or should it be something different?
[06:43] <wheatthin> SuperLag, you mounting it as a separate partition?
[06:43] <SuperLag> wheatthin: yes
[06:44] <somsip> SuperLag: got this here - I think from the installer: defaults,user_xattr
[06:44] <SuperLag> somsip: are you mounting /home on a separate partition, as well?
[06:44] <wheatthin> SuperLag,  (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks2)
[06:44] <somsip> SuperLag: yep
[06:44] <wheatthin> change the udisk to your appropriate disk
[06:45] <SuperLag> wheatthin: what is the last option?
[06:45] <SuperLag> the uhelper=udisk?
[06:47] <wheatthin> SuperLag, I believe it just chooses which disk you're querying
[06:49] <wheatthin> I could be wrong tho
[06:53] <Sir-Litepool> how do i completely remove mysql?
[06:54] <wheatthin> Sir-Litepool, I believe sudo apt-get purge mysql
[06:57] <Synchrony> hi everybody!  I´m trying to getting work my father´s printer on Ubuntu 12.04.....I have installed the 3.13.02 version of hplip ....When I try to print happen that I receive only message on the screen that says : "the document was success printed"
[06:57] <histo> Sir-Litepool: you're still mucking around?
[06:57] <Synchrony> In the real, nothing was printed....I have tried to upgrade hplip to the 3.13.15 version and seems I could not open the package
[06:57] <Synchrony> I am a beginner with ubuntu, maybe i did something wrong.
[06:57] <Sir-Litepool> yeah histo im completely removing mysql
[06:58] <Sir-Litepool> i backed up the /var/lib/mysql
[06:58] <histo> Sir-Litepool: well mysql-server is the package that you are probably having issues with
[06:58] <histo> Synchrony: what type of printer?
[06:59] <loganlee> hello
[06:59] <Sir-Litepool> installing dependencies like libdbd-mysql-perl right now
[07:00] <Synchrony> this model : hp deskjet f4280
[07:14] <snufft> hey guys
[07:15] <snufft> stupid question, but when using ssh, out of 2 step password auth vs authorized keys, which wins in security?
[07:15] <snufft> better yet, can you 2 step authorised keys?
[07:15] <nevyn> I like keys
[07:16] <nevyn> snufft: how good is your password?
[07:16] <snufft> competely random
[07:16] <snufft> long
[07:16] <snufft> lol
[07:17] <ubuntu> clear
[07:17] <ojasvi> clear
[07:17] <histo> Synchrony: let me check something
[07:18] <nevyn> snufft: so with good practice. keys are clearly and obviously superior to most passwords
[07:18] <ojasvi> does anybody out here knows how to recover corrupted windows using ubuntu?
[07:18] <histo> Synchrony: http://askubuntu.com/questions/24073/how-do-i-install-the-hp-f4280-printer
[07:18] <Synchrony> histo : ok
[07:18] <nevyn> snufft: the big advantage of passwords is you have some more policy controls to ensure good practice.
[07:19] <nevyn> except you don't...
[07:19] <theraser> Hey, is there any linux compatible USB dock which offers audio and video connectors? Somethink like this one: http://blog.lenovo.com/products/dock-is-launched
[07:19] <ojasvi> m trying to install ubuntu 12.04 alongside windows 8. but no known method is working
[07:19] <histo> ojasvi: are you using 64bit ubuntu?
[07:19] <auronandace> !uefi | ojasvi
[07:19] <woo> mouse and keyboard functions keep failing on 13.04 x64 3.8.0-23-generic
[07:19] <snufft> nevyn, two step should somewhat mitigate crap passwords though
[07:20] <nevyn> because while you can enforce length, complexity numbers etc etc. MyP@ssw0rdisawes0me is still pretty terrible and high on dictionary lists
[07:20] <ojasvi> !info ubuntu
[07:20] <histo> nevyn: how'd you guess my password?
[07:20] <Synchrony> histo: ok, I check it. I was looking in this page http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/manual/distros/ubuntu.html
[07:21] <histo> Synchrony: your printer should work out of the box with ubuntu btw
[07:21] <woo> histo: mind = blown
[07:21] <histo> lol
[07:22] <ojasvi> histo: yes
[07:22] <histo> ojasvi: read the instructions from ubottu about uefi
[07:24] <histo> !clone > blockworks
[07:24] <kalledel> Does anyone know the internals of SYN-blocking in the kernel here? I have a problem with high tcp connection rates on loopback..
[07:25] <ojasvi> histo: thanks. on it :D
[07:25] <Synchrony>  i log out for a moment
[07:26] <kenzo450D> hi, i was installing zendframework, when suddenly on trying to use the sudo command, i get the error sudo: "effective uid is not 0, is sudo installed setuid root? ", how do I fix it? I cannot run anything as sudo?
[07:37] <tking> Hello guys please can someone advise? I am moving file using from  root directory... i used the command 'gksudo nautilus /' to get to drive but i get this error along the line https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46512205/one.png
[07:39] <Ben64> tking: you should just use the command line to move a file instead of opening a root nautilus
[07:42] <hexabit> Im here
[07:43] <hexabit> oops wrong channel! :)
[07:44] <histo> tking: what is the filesystem you are copying to?
[07:44] <tking> histo its fat32
[07:46] <hd5770> hey ppeps
[07:46] <hd5770> i installed ubuntu
[07:46] <histo> tking: fat32 can't hold a 31GB file
[07:47] <nanyaks_> hd5770: Good for you!
[07:47] <hd5770> heh thanks
[07:47] <nanyaks_> ;P
[07:47] <hd5770> but the boot loader dont work :(
[07:47] <nanyaks_> oops...how do you mean?
[07:47] <histo> tking: 4gb limit
[07:48] <sere> tking: the max fast32 holds in 4gb
[07:48] <hd5770> grub will not install on sda1
[07:48] <hd5770> win7 boot loader is there
[07:49] <nanyaks_> seems you didnt install it in the master boot record..
[07:50] <tking> histo, sere -  really, which file system can I use?
[07:50] <hd5770> did try but it failed come back withh error like its not aload there
[07:51] <histo> tking: do you need access to the filesystem on any other operating systems?
[07:51] <tking> histo yes, or should i create a partition to contain that file itself?
[07:52] <sere> tking: ntfs if your using windows aswell
[07:53] <nanyaks_> can you access your command line?
[07:53] <tking> sere ntfs would work with ubuntu, mac and windows right?
[07:53] <histo> tking: you can use ntfs or ext3 ... if you are using ext3 you need to add a file system driver to windows though as it doens't support ext3 out of the obx
[07:53] <histo> s/obx/box/
[07:53] <sere> tking: i dont know about mac. never used it
[07:54] <histo> tking: looks like you can add ntfs support to mac
[07:54] <nanyaks_> try the suggestions from here .. http://goo.gl/7KQZB
[07:54] <histo> tking: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20090913140023382
[07:55] <sere> tking: you could split your package into 4.gig files and then just copy that whole directoy over.. but you would have alot of files
[07:56] <nanyaks_> hd5770: sure your installation media isn't corrupt?
[07:56] <tking> sere its a backup file and how do i restore backup?
[07:56] <hd5770> yeah i used mini core and downloaded the rest meny times
[07:57] <histo> tking: how'd you make the backup file?
[07:58] <tking> sere  in future since the commands would be tar cvfjz backup.tgz               now with many files it would be a problems
[07:58] <MindSpark> Hello guys, can someone recommend an open source web based bugtracking tool?
[07:59] <tking> histo using this command 'tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys /'    source: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087
[08:01] <histo> tking: then split your file up if you want to use fat32 or switch filesystems
[08:02] <histo> tking: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20090913140023382
[08:02] <histo> tking: sorry wrong link
[08:02] <tking> histo how to switch file or split any  source?
[08:02] <histo> tking: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR#Archive_Splitting
[08:03] <tking> histo vs sere thanks
[08:03] <sere> tking: it would still be one command but it would be packaging your backup into 4gb incremental tar files : http://ccn.ucla.edu/wiki/index.php/Tar_Tutorial
[08:03] <nanyaks_> hd5770: if you can access the command line on the system, try reinstalling grub
[08:06] <nanyaks_> hd5770: maybe we can start here ... http://goo.gl/9oYXW
[08:07] <nanyaks_> if you cant access the terminal, you might need to use a liveCD
[08:09] <dougbb> I'm using xubuntu 13.04, and pidgin seems to have lost its ability to connect to servers over IPv6 ... other services work fine over IPv6, any ideas?
[08:11] <hd5770> man the live cd does not fit on my 700 mb disks lol
[08:12] <hd5770> i will try this but it seems windows 7 boot loaders is allrdy useing the MBR and its not will to let go of it
[08:16] <somsip> !find celeryd
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> dougbb: are there any bugs reported?
[08:20] <dougbb> where would I look for that? launchpad?
[08:25] <nanyaks_> hd5570: there is boot repair that can help ..http://goo.gl/VbG2B
[08:25] <dougbb> ActionParsnip: I did do a search for "ubuntu 13 pidgin ipv6" and it didn't find anything
[08:25] <nanyaks_> it should help...
[08:29] <Sir-Litepool> can anyone guide me to install lib boost 1.47 or something more than that on my ubuntu box plz?
[08:29] <dougbb> bbias
[08:30] <ubuntu> abc
[08:31] <Sir-Litepool> avc
[08:34] <Guest34367> hi
[08:36] <m0ngrel> hell guest
[08:40] <Polleke> so.. my vps crashed this night. Dmesg showed disk read/write errors, fsck recovered only a very broken journal. The VPS host says there is nothing wrong with the disk. Can he be right?
[08:47] <wtf911> $5 for ZNC compiled for optware/dd-wrt
[08:47] <Ben64> wtf911: no, go away
[08:47] <wtf911> what are you, some oper on here or something?
[08:48] <wtf911> you go away?
[08:48] <wtf911> if my asking that was inappropriate for the channel you could have politely told me
[08:49] <wtf911> http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop
[08:50] <bazhang> !ot | wtf911
[08:50] <bazhang> !guidelines > wtf911
[08:53] <ActionParsnip> Polleke: if it crashed then the data may be damaged, I'd use your backups etc
[08:54] <Polleke> ActionParsnip: yes, the backup of 24h before is running (our customers not happy :( ) A fsck on that image revealed only two lost inodes. But I'm more wondering how the hell this happened
[08:55] <iKillCypher> uh is this channel about ubuntu touch?
[08:55] <bazhang> !touch | iKillCypher
[09:11] <nanyaks_> hd5770: any luck?
[09:13] <hd5770> not tryed yet mate i am relocant as i cant see it working
[09:13] <TKing> Please i need help i mistakingly restored backup.tgz which is a backup of my system to my /home directory? now it has folders root, bin, initrd.img svr, etc, home. but when i tried deleting with it failed so i reboot and started getting loop of login screen. ctrl+ alt+f1 goes to terminal and from there i deleted the folders still can't looking even though i changed /home to chmod 755
[09:13] <tux9th> hi, what can I do against the RAM hungry compiz and xorg in 13.04?
[09:13] <tux9th> they take up to 1gb of ram :-S
[09:19] <TKing> i mistakingly restored backup.tgz which is a backup of my system to my /home directory? now it has folders root, bin, initrd.img svr, etc, home. but when i tried deleting with it failed so i rebooted and login screen keeps coming back. ctrl+alt+f1 to terminal and from there i deleted the folders still can't get to desktop even after chmod 755 /home? but i can access guest
[09:20] <Tripwire292> hey anyone around?
[09:21] <Tripwire292> was hoping to get some help with LVM
[09:22] <foobArrr> a kernel upgrade just failed, i tried uninstalling and reinstalling the kernel manually, I get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764109/
[09:23] <foobArrr> oh, /boot is out of space, nevermind
[09:24] <vicn> 反对
[09:24] <vicn> whos on
[09:24] <Tripwire292> hi, i am
[09:24] <foobArrr> (Is there a way to automatically remove all older kernels but the latest two or something like that?)
[09:25] <somsip> foobArrr: I have seen a script on stackoverflow that uses uname in a find/delete to remove them. I shall look...
[09:25] <somsip> foobArrr: NEEDS TESTING http://www.dmwl.net/node/26
[09:25] <Equinox3> foobarArrr use synaptic to remove the ones you don't need
[09:26] <Tripwire292> any of you know anything about LVM?
[09:26] <somsip> foobArrr: ah - it doesn't keep the last few. Just the active one. It's a start though
[09:26] <foobArrr> somsip: thanks
[09:27] <Tripwire292> ive got things setup, that parts fine. im trying to add two more disks but i get "Device /dev/sda1 not found (or ignored by filtering)"
[09:27] <Tripwire292> any ideas?
[09:27] <Equinox3> i have used synaptic to remove older linux kernels. didn't cause any problems
[09:29] <qursk> sup guys
[09:29] <tux9th> foobArrr: Why don't you just remove them in synaptics? or are it that many :p?
[09:30] <foobArrr> tux9th: because I'd have to do that after every kernel update, and I'm lazy and like to automate things.
[09:31] <tux9th> ah ok
[09:35] <TKing> i created a user without password how do i give the user a password now?
[09:36] <somsip> TKing: sudo passwd username
[09:37] <TKing> somsip thanks
[09:39] <TKing> somsip, my user account is messed up, how can i login or switch to root user from terminal since i cant get to GUI
[09:40] <somsip> TKing: sudo -i to swicth to user
[09:40] <somsip> !text | TKing
[09:42] <qursk> guys im having problems by installing red hat into virtual box
[09:42] <qursk> im on ubuntu and i downloaded red hat iso several times
[09:42] <qursk> still having problems at the installing console
[09:43] <theadmin> qursk: ...Redhat isn't supported here
[09:43] <qursk> where can i go for that ?
[09:43] <SixtyFold> #fedora would be closest probably haha
[09:43] <theadmin> qursk: Well, if you did buy it, you can simply consult RedHat themselves.
[09:44] <theadmin> SixtyFold: Eh, CentOS is closer to RHEL than Fedora
[09:44] <SixtyFold> ahh
[09:44] <qursk> nope its actually downloaded iso from the official website
[09:44] <SixtyFold> good to know
[09:45] <TKing> somsip can i talk private?
[09:45] <theadmin> qursk: Well, RedHat support is commercial, sorreh. Can't help here at all, way different system
[09:47] <somsip> TKing: I don't have time and all ubuntu shat should be in the channel
[09:47] <somsip> oops - chat.
[09:47] <Tripwire292> can anyone help me with some LVM stuff
[09:47] <Tripwire292> please?
[09:48] <theadmin> Tripwire292: Ask the actual question, then if anyone can help they shall
[09:48] <theadmin> Tripwire292: If not, try on askubuntu.com as you don't have to stay online there to get your answers
[09:48] <Tripwire292> ive got things setup, that parts fine. im trying to add two more disks but i get "Device /dev/sda1 not found (or ignored by filtering)"
[09:48] <TKing> i can login as root@user but cant login as user how can i fix this error since i cant get to gui of user except i get into guest or root from using ctrl+alt+f1
[09:48] <Tripwire292> i have not changed any of the filters
[09:49] <Tripwire292> ok ty theadmin
[09:49] <cloneG> hello I would need a dns domain in order to get my openvpn connection working...I was told to use no-ip or dyndns services but...the question is: is not possible to make ubuntu do that task instead?
[09:50] <somsip> TKing: maybe rename the dead user, create a new correctly-named user you can log in as, and move the files from deaduser home to newuser home. Some commands may help here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2086753
[09:50] <somsip> TKing: just a thought. Might not be the best idea...
[09:51] <theadmin> cloneG: If your Ubuntu machine has a static IP with a domain and you can add subdomains freely, maybe, but if it's dynamic, well that's the whole point of dyndns...
[09:52] <theadmin> cloneG: Generally, it's too much bother to set up manually. I'm using noip and can't complain, works perfectly
[09:52] <Tripwire292> cloneG, you dont /i/need/i/ a domain... just the external ip address. dyndns simply attaches a name to that dynamic ip you get from your isp
[09:52] <Tripwire292> i use dyndns, it also works great for what i do
[09:54] <Name141> Can anyone (that has one?) comment on how well the Intel HD graphics works on the G2020 in Ubuntu ?
[09:54] <cloneG> yeah but as a third party service it is not durable
[09:55] <cloneG> you need to be a regular user to keep it working properly apart from an account in one of those websites
[09:55] <Tripwire292> not durable?
[09:55] <cloneG> you're bound to be a client
[09:55] <cloneG> I like the independence ubuntu gives
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Name141: could try it in liveCD to test
[09:56] <cloneG> no it stops working if you are not careful
[09:56] <theadmin> cloneG: ...Well, if you want to have a domain, you're bound to be a client of some domain service anyway
[09:56] <Tripwire292> with dyndns, as a feee user, i have to login once every thirty days and that is
[09:56] <somsip> Tripwire292: if you have a router, these can often be configured to update dyndns regularly
[09:57] <TKing> somsip i created user and it cant login
[09:57] <cloneG> thats the point...does not ubuntu gives that chance? to have your own domain on your own?
[09:57] <Tripwire292> i knnow, i just havent set it up yet..
[09:57] <theadmin> cloneG: ...You can't just have a domain of your own, you need a service
[09:57] <TKing> somsip i mean i created a user and that user cant login
[09:57] <Tripwire292> actually idk if mine will do it, running a cisco 2611xm
[09:57] <theadmin> cloneG: ...Well or you could contact IANA with a very good reason and lots lots of money, I guess...
[09:57] <somsip> TKing: what errors do you see in the error logs?
[09:57] <Name141> ActionParsnip: I suppose so.. I mean you can install flash for Hulu/youtube on live I guess?
[09:57] <cloneG> lol
[09:58] <Name141> that'd be the heaviest graphics
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Name141: yes, there is adobe flash in the repos, or pepper flash in Chrome :)
[09:58] <TKing> somsip sorry i dont know where error logs are saved
[09:58] <TKing> can u tell me please
[09:58] <somsip> TKing: /var/logs
[09:59] <somsip> TKing: probably /var/log/auth.log if you have login problems. But maybe best to look around a bit if it's your first time in there. Get a feel for it
[09:59] <Name141> ActionParsnip: I got a new machine with windows 8 and it went to killing my bandwidth, just like it did these people http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r27866690-HN9000-Something-on-new-computer-is-draining-my-bandwidth-fast .  Since they don't like Windows 8 , I might can get them to make the swap if Yahoo messenger is native ?
[10:00] <cloneG> okay so no-ip or dyndns will do the trick...any other firm?
[10:00] <theadmin> Name141: There are tons of clients for Yahoo. Empathy (built into Ubuntu) has Yahoo support
[10:00] <Name141> theadmin; yeah but usually lack all the features
[10:00] <Name141> (camera)
[10:00] <cloneG> which is the more comfortable gui interface...menu app and so?
[10:00] <theadmin> Name141: Hm, I think Jitsi has support for webcam chats over Yahoo
[10:01] <Tripwire292> cloneG, you could also go get a domain from a registrar
[10:01] <Tripwire292> its basically the same thing, tell it your external ip
[10:01] <theadmin> Name141: I have no idea, I haven't used Yahoo since, like... uh... uh... I can't even remember the last time I opened yahoo.com for that matter
[10:01] <zorael> Nothing conclusive emerged from the musings of a rolling flavor, I gather?
[10:02] <Tripwire292> cloneG, i use www.namecheap.com
[10:02] <Tripwire292> its good
[10:02] <theadmin> zorael: Something sort of did, they shortened support for non-LTS releases to 9 months so that people are now forced to upgrade. Not technically rolling release, but "close enough" I guess
[10:02] <Name141> theadmin: Anyway, I'll see if the Windows 8 trip is over with after removing the tiles/windows apps.. If not, after it used 500 MBs in 3 hours (with a 10GB monthly cap..) I gotta do something.
[10:02] <zorael> theadmin: All right, thanks
[10:03] <Tripwire292> Name141, doesnt pigeon support yahoo?
[10:03] <TKing> somsip http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764199 this is the log from auth.log
[10:03] <Name141> Tripwire292: lack of features.
[10:03] <Tripwire292> Name141, ah
[10:03] <theadmin> Tripwire292: It does, but without VV (voice/video, not the white-haired immortal evil guy)
[10:03] <Name141> theadmin: They also like clicking their email icon and it going directly to it..
[10:03] <Tripwire292> Name141, true
[10:04] <theadmin> Name141: Hm. I honestly don't know if Yahoo! has an official messenger for UNIX-like systems. Check, and if not, try running it in WINE, it may just work
[10:05] <antwort> could anybody tell me how to install a higher version of software using apt-get
[10:05] <antwort> ?
[10:05] <somsip> TKing: at what point in the login process is this failing?
[10:05] <Name141> theadmin: Anywho, best case is that Windows 8 stops eating the bandwith.. I'd hate to call Lonovo and tell them I don't want the system because of an OS..
[10:05] <Tripwire292> antwort, are you trying to do updates?
[10:05] <antwort> i don't want to update my disti
[10:06] <Tripwire292> antwort, just a single package?
[10:06] <TKing> somsip when i get to screen of entering password in GUI. I enter password screen goes black for 1 second or less and return back to login screen
[10:06] <TKing> so it is a loop of login screen
[10:06] <antwort> yes only a single
[10:06] <theadmin> antwort: Generally speaking, if "apt-get install" pulls in an older version of software than what's currently released, it means the version apt-get pulls is the recommended one for your Ubuntu version (newer versions may even fail on your Ubuntu version in this case), but you can search your favorite search engine for "softwareNameHere ppa", for example "pidgin ppa"
[10:06] <antwort> but it depends
[10:06] <somsip> TKing: this is the same thing you had the other day still? It was you wasn't it?
[10:07] <antwort> install curl depends on libcurl
[10:07] <antwort> so it woun't work
[10:07] <theadmin> antwort: Well, again, search for a ppa or in the worst case build it yourself from source.
[10:08] <TKing> somsip this is different: because i had problem the other day, i formated and reinstall this time made backup.tgz file containing my full system backup. stupid me i wanted to extract archieve to see if it works i mistakenly extracted in my /home directory
[10:09] <TKing> somsip the whole files meant to be in / are in /home -- immedaitely using sudo nautilus / i wanted to quickly delete it and it failed, so i rebooted and couldn't login any more
[10:10] <somsip> TKing: so login as root in text mode and tidy up. I thought that was your intention with the questions you've been asking.
[10:10] <Ben64> TKing: don't do sudo nautilus
[10:12] <TKing> somsip how do i tidy up? i have already remove the folders from /home i mean root boot etc folders that were created in /home
[10:13] <theadmin> TKing: You may want to remove config folders such as ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2 and ~/.config and so on and so on since they were likely ruined with this "sudo nautilus" thing of yours
[10:13] <cloneG> Tripwire292 does namecheap.com manage both dns and domain for same price? I bought a domain a couple of years ago and they only gave me the name...Y would need an ip public for this computer aswell!
[10:14] <freakynl> Hi, I have some issues after upgrading kernels and running out of space: http://pastebin.ca/2398390
[10:14] <freakynl> any ideas? apt-get install -f doesn't fix it :(
[10:15] <TKing> theadmin  how do i go about remove this? in which directory?
[10:15] <freakynl> whilst on the subject - when will it finally clear up old kernels? Had over 2GB in /lib/modules alone - auto update bites in the ass like this
[10:15] <theadmin> TKing: ~
[10:15] <theadmin> TKing: ~ is your home folder, normally /home/username
[10:16] <theadmin> freakynl: Old kernels aren't automatically cleaned, you have to apt-get remove them yourself
[10:16] <walltender> What's a good screen video cast GUI program in ubuntu, tried recordmydesktop, conversion is too slow.
[10:17] <freakynl> theadmin: I know, hence the q, it's a pita
[10:17] <theadmin> walltender: Try Kazam
[10:17] <TKing> theadmin am in there apart from ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2 and ~/.config what else? or should i remove all . files
[10:18] <theadmin> TKing: I think those 3 are enough, but not 100% sure.
[10:18] <TKing> theadmin another problem, i created a new user and that user cant login
[10:19] <theadmin> TKing: Hms. Is there anything weird under /etc/skel/?
[10:19] <TKing> theadmin if i remove those would and reboot would everything restore it self? or how do i get them back to reload properly
[10:20] <theadmin> TKing: Eh, they'll just reappear anyways, apps will recreate them
[10:21] <Afggh> Hi
[10:21] <[Gentoo]> hi
[10:21] <TKing> theadmin so far in sel i can see .bash_logout .bashrc and .profile with a a directory Exampls
[10:21] <chenli_> hello everyone
[10:21] <TKing> theadmin so far in sel i can see .bash_logout .bashrc and .profile with a a directory Examples
[10:22] <Afggh> Why does my software centre stuck on updating cache while installing vlc?
[10:22] <theadmin> TKing: Those are fine then. Well, just try rebooting
[10:23] <Afggh> And even any other software.
[10:23] <Afggh> It is just stuck man.
[10:24] <Afggh> My Bluetooth also doesnt work.
[10:24] <Afggh> :(
[10:24] <mat619> Hi guys! I'm working on building a network sniffer for diagnostic purposes with Wireshark - what I have is a 12.04 machine with two NICs. I want to configure those in a way that allows packet monitoring without interfering.
[10:25] <TKing> theadmin i only saw .gnome2 and .config no such dir as .gnome ?. but i saw .compiz, .gconf and .gnome2_private should i remove any of this?
[10:25] <theadmin> TKing: Hm, probably do want to get rid of .gconf and .gnome2_private, yeah
[10:25] <theadmin> TKing: Dunno about .compiz
[10:25] <mat619> My goal is to have that box between the switch port and the device to be monitored, let's say a network printer. eth0 comes from the switch, forwards all packets unmodified to eth1, which forwards them to the printer. Is that possible without declaring the monitoring box as a gateway for both the router and the device behind?
[10:26] <babyswizz> I keep getting this error whenever i start my ubuntu vm any solutions? Error mounting system-managed device /dev/fd0: Command-line `mount "/media/floppy0"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid block device
[10:26] <mat619> Because I don't want to alter the communication path at all, I just want to monitor what's flowing through that cable from the switch to the target device
[10:28] <TKing> theadmin did as you said, cant login still, i cant login new user created either
[10:28] <theadmin> TKing: Damn :( Well I dunno then
[10:29] <TKing> theadmin i can only go to terminal and do sudo -i to get to root
[10:30] <TKing> theadmin anyway thanks? the only place i can login is Guest and root in Gui
[10:30] <lessless> guys, I did sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose but there is no /etc/init.d/vboxdrv and I got a  No suitable module for running kernel found error
[10:30] <[Gentoo]> TKing: can you log in on console
[10:30] <mat619> babyswizz: does your VM have a floppy drive, with a good floppy image loaded?
[10:30] <theadmin> lessless: Install virtualbox-dkms
[10:31] <TKing> Gentoo yes with ctrl+alt+f1 right?
[10:31] <[Gentoo]> yeah or whatever way
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: gksudo nautilus    will run a file browser as root....
[10:31] <[Gentoo]> outside the gui
[10:31] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Right, but "sudo nautilus" is no good
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: oh god no
[10:31] <babyswizz> my system itself does not have a floppy drive mat619
[10:32] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Which is what TKing did
[10:32] <TKing> theadmin ActionParsnip its a mistake i did gksudo
[10:32] <TKing> [Gentoo] i can login user from console
[10:32] <[Gentoo]> ok
[10:32] <[Gentoo]> no idea
[10:33] <[Gentoo]> :)
[10:33] <lessless> theadmin, no use
[10:33] <mat619> babyswizz: it's a VM, right?
[10:33] <lessless> vboxdrv: unrecognized service
[10:33] <babyswizz> mat619: yes
[10:35] <TKing> theadmin am thinking since its possible to login as root@user can i login as root@root and then delete user@userPC but then i would have backed up /home
[10:35] <krypto> %sy in top output is almost 100% what can be the issue?
[10:35] <TKing> theadmin and create new user and restore everything back
[10:36] <Tripwire292> mat619, afaik... wireshark wont interfere with the packets, it just simply siffs them. in order to see just your printer, or whatever :P, you need to set up a filter for that device, whether it be protocol, ip, mac, etc
[10:37] <TKing> Seriously system restore to last know good configuration will do well in Ubuntu or system repair
[10:39] <Tripwire292> babyswizz, have you checked your settings in the vbox manager? under the entry for your vm >> storage  you might find a floppy drive
[10:40] <[Gentoo]> TKing: system restore?
[10:41] <TKing> [Gentoo] system restore as it is in windows
[10:41] <[Gentoo]> that wont touch ubuntu?
[10:41] <babyswizz> tripwire: I actually dont have a floppy hardware on my system but i think the vm was set to capture a floppy hence the error
[10:42] <Tripwire292> well with vbox you can actually set up a virtual fdd, just like you do with the hdd and install img
[10:43] <Tripwire292> babyswizz  ^
[10:44] <Tripwire292> babyswizz, you dont need to have a fdd physically in your computer
[10:44] <[Gentoo]> vbox does all the fake hardware
[10:45] <babyswizz> Tripwire: I use vmware not vbox and i actually understand what you are saying now but why the error
[10:46] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:46] <erg0n> hi
[10:47] <Tripwire292> babyswizz, ah. well vmware is pretty much the same, ive used both. and sounds like ubuntu is trying to mount the drive, but nothing is there to mount (just guessing here) maybe check your fstab. also i would check the virtual machine settings to ensure there isnt a ffd being virtualized
[10:48] <clcto> o/
[10:49] <babyswizz> Tripwire: how do I go about this, am actually a newbee
[10:51] <Tripwire292> babyswizz, well i would do in a terminal sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[10:51] <Tripwire292> babyswizz, i assume your using the desktop edition with a gui
[10:52] <babyswizz> Tripwire: desktop edition of what
[10:52] <somsip> !gksudo | Tripwire292
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Tripwire292: sudo is not suitable for GUI apps
[10:53] <Tripwire292> babyswizz, look for an entry that has to do with /dev/floppy0
[10:53] <Tripwire292> haha well TIL....
[10:53] <[Gentoo]> so much easier to just use sudo vim
[10:53] <theadmin> Tripwire292: Don't you mean /dev/fd0?
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Tripwire292: il it changes the owner of a file in $HOME and sudo won't work
[10:54] <theadmin> I don't think floppy* even exists, though unsure
[10:54] <Tripwire292> just using what he said
[10:54] <Tripwire292> i assume its /fd0
 I keep getting this error whenever i start my ubuntu vm any solutions? Error mounting system-managed device /dev/fd0: Command-line `mount "/media/floppy0"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: /dev/fd0 is not a valid
[10:55] <Tripwire292> oh miss read
[10:56] <walltender> theadmin: Kazam introduces lots of nosies.
[10:56] <Tripwire292> and actually ive never ran into an issue with just sudo gedit
[10:56] <theadmin> walltender: Huh, odd, worked fine for me
[10:57] <tithan> PROBLEAM OF MY PC TO INSTALL LINUX NO OPTION TO SELECT THE CD ROM  MY COMPUTER IS HP
[10:58] <babyswizz> Tripwire: I have something like this "/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0"
[10:58] <[Gentoo]> Tripwire292: it should work fine its just a bad habit
[10:58] <og01> Hi there im getting "debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process"
[10:58] <[Gentoo]> you shouldnt ever need to run much graphical stuff as root anyway
[10:59] <theadmin> tithan: Don't caps. Is it a Windows 8 preinstalled PC?
[10:59] <Drretro_> greetings - i've got some cpu-peak-problems with xubuntu 12.04 on a IBM Thinkpad X61s - it seems there is a kworker problem - how can i resolve that?
[10:59] <minimec> tithan: DON'T shout.. ;) Press F9 or F12 to 'change boot device' during BIOS screen.
[10:59] <ace_striker> og01: get it's pid and issue kill comand
[10:59] <og01> ace_striker: there is no pid, and nothing to kill
[10:59] <og01> ace_striker: fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat shows no processes
[10:59] <minimec> tithan: You may have to activate that option in the BIOS first.
[11:00] <og01> ace_striker: ignore me
[11:00] <ace_striker> ogo1: use sodu
[11:00] <og01> ace_striker: i wasnt running as root
[11:00] <ace_striker> *sudo
[11:01] <theadmin> tithan: If it came with Windows 8, go to right panel -> Settings -> Change PC Settings -> General -> Advanced boot options -> Boot from CD or removable media -> Boot from CD
[11:01] <tithan> MINIMEC:NOTHING MY BROTHER
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> !caps | tithan
[11:02] <minimec> tithan: You may have to activate that option in the BIOS first.
[11:02] <tithan> THEADMIN:BUT WE WANT TO INTALL LINUX OF UBUNTU NOTHING
[11:02] <theadmin> tithan: That's what you need to do to boot from the Ubuntu CD
[11:03] <theadmin> tithan: Windows 8 messes with the EFI somehow with these boot options
[11:06] <dawkirst> Hi. Any decent Google Drive clients for Ubuntu?
[11:07] <DJones> dawkirst: Its not in the repo's, but the only one I've found is Insync
[11:07] <theadmin> dawkirst: Try InSync
[11:07] <Tripwire292> [Gentoo], ah ok, like i said TIL :P
[11:07] <mat619> babyswizz: remove the floppydrive from the VM then. your virtualization tool must have given it a virtual floppy drive by default
[11:07] <randomUser13> Hi, i'm currently fixing a pc where /boot got full, so i manually deleted the old kernels and initrds, but now i think i accidentally deleted some files i shouldn't have... what's the correct way to tell apt-get to reinstall the relevant packages?
[11:08] <mat619> Tripwire292: i know how wireshark works, but I'm not sure if I can setup a transparent network bridge in linux
[11:08] <xaker> hi all
[11:08] <minimec> randomUser13: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure yourpackage'
[11:08] <randomUser13> And on a related note, is `sudo apt-get autoremove` sufficient for cleaning up in the future?
[11:08] <mat619> Tripwire292: that will just forward the packets like on osi layer 0
[11:09] <mat619> Tripwire292: in through eth0, being monitored there, and out through eth1 to the target
[11:09] <mat619> Tripwire292: and same thing backwards. without eth0 and eth1 being really a TCP/IP part of the network
[11:10] <dawkirst> DJones, theadmin thanks.
[11:10] <Tripwire292> mat619, yeah i really have no idea about that, somethong ive never done :P
[11:10] <mat619> Tripwire292: that makes two of us. :D
[11:10] <randomUser13> minimec: How do i find out which package owned /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-XX-generic after it no longer exists? :P
[11:10] <mat619> Tripwire292: but thanks for trying to help anyway :)
[11:11] <theadmin> randomUser13: That'd be linux-image-3.8.0-xx-generic
[11:11] <minimec> randomUser13: linux-image-XXXX.deb. For example: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=raring&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=linux-image
[11:11] <theadmin> randomUser13: In general, apt-file can find files in packages regardless of their install state
[11:13] <SKiTZO> I am trying to change the permissions given to some usb device files in my udev rules but the changes won't take effect. I use udevadm controll --reload-rules after saving my changes. im on 12.04 what gives?
[11:14] <minimec> randomUser13: If you can reinstall or reconfigure the linux-image-XXX-deb package, I would do a 'sudo update-grub' afterwards, just to be sure...
[11:18] <randomUser13> minimec: dpkg-reconfigure gives me: Internal Error: Could not find image (/boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-23-generic)
[11:19] <tithan> THEADMIN:WHAT IS THE MEAN OF 0x00002
[11:20] <chinoz> hi
[11:21] <minimec> randomUser13: So try to install the package again.
[11:23] <randomUser13> minimec: sudo apt-get install ... gives me: "linux-image-3.8.0-XX-generic is already the newest version." and exits without doing anything.
[11:24] <SKiTZO> are the rules found under /etc/udev/rules.d ALL that are used on my systyem or is there another batch of rules someplace?
[11:24] <brainwash> randomUser13: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[11:25] <TKing> please isn't lsmod suppose to show type of drive in grub?
[11:25] <randomUser13> SKiTZO: There might be some in /usr/lib/udev/ too if i remember correctly.
[11:26] <brainwash> SKiTZO: /lib/udev/rules.d
[11:26] <tithan> what the mean of 0x0000000004
[11:26] <minimec> randomUser13: So you can boot on one kernel, as I see. Remove all linux-image packages of the vmlinux files you removed. Do a 'sudo update-grub' (to be sure)... and never just remove some files in a filesystem, that is managed by a package manager ;)
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> TKing: lsmod just shows the loaded kernel modules
[11:27] <leto> Hi, I'm going to install ubuntu 13.04 on a 128Gb ssd, no multiboot. I used to crypt at least my seperate home partition, and I'm discovering new (?) install options: lvm and full encryption. What do you advice? And is hibernation possible now with an encrypted home?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> tithan: its '4' in hexadecimal
[11:27] <randomUser13> minimec: so in future doing "apt-get autoremove" is enought to keep /boot clean?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> leto: I believe the issue was with encrypted swap.
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> leto: is the system a desktop?
[11:28] <leto> ActionParsnip: indeed. No a laptopt
[11:28] <leto> -t
[11:28] <minimec> randomUser13: NOt sure about that. Just check and remove the 'redundant' linux-image packages.
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> leto: I see, just dont encrypt swap, alternatively don't use any encryption and life will be easier
[11:29] <dawkirst> DJones, I get a "W: Failed to fetch http://apt.insynchq.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'non-free/source/Sources' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)" error, any ideas?
[11:29] <leto> ActionParsnip: I need encryption of my datas
[11:31] <randomUser13> brainwash, minimec: thanks a lot for the help! :) Hope i can reboot...
[11:32] <TKing> am trying to run the command " root=(hd0); configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg " in grub since i cant boot from liveUSB but its not working any reason why?
[11:33] <SKiTZO> thanks randomuser13 & brainwash
[11:37] <TKing> histo are you there?
[11:37] <gry> TKing: Yes.
[11:38] <TKing> gry, you helped me yesterday with booting liveUSB from grub, please what are the commands given
[11:39] <gry> I didn't, sorry, must have been someone else. Please ask again in full details.
[11:40] <gry> histo: ping.
[11:43] <riqdiiz> gry: hi
[11:43] <gry> riqdiiz: Hi.
[11:44] <riqdiiz> gry: what commands u looking for?
[11:44] <gry> I'm not looking for commands, no. :)
[11:45] <riqdiiz> given what ...? Up there ..:-)
[11:51] <rudolf_> hi everyone
[11:51] <rudolf_> I have now started liking ubuntu.
[11:51] <rudolf_> Its pretty cool.
[11:52] <replaceits> So after a reboot of my comp, flash decided to not play out of my primary device (plays out of a diffrent one), I've been googling around and haven't found anything thats fixed this, any know how to fix this?
[11:52] <replaceits> I haven't had a problem with it for the last few months <.<"
[11:52] <rudolf_> Bit difficult to learn in the starting though. :|
[11:52] <babyswizz1> I cant seem to install synaptic package manager , am getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764428/
[11:52] <rudolf_> And My bluetooth isnt working.
[11:53] <TKing> how do i boot my liveUSB from grub menu?
[11:53] <rudolf_> Its not ready to turn on I dunno why. :( Any help??
[11:54] <replaceits> @TKing you should just be able to enable loading from usb in the bios
[11:55] <replaceits> @rudolf_ does your computer have a switch or button (like a fn one) to turn it on and off? I've found turnning it off and on helps
[11:55] <walltender> Is this normal that I take a screen recording for around 12 mins and the 3.8 GiB swap is fully occupied, freezes the system while memeory is not fully loaded?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> walltender: tried a different application?
[11:57] <walltender> ActionParsnip: Tired two recording app, mydesktoprecord and Kazam
[11:58] <TKing> repaceits i cant access bios uefi problem
[11:58] <TKing> replaceits i cant access bios uefi problem
[12:03] <hillix> s
[12:03] <hillix> l
[12:04] <hillix> w
[12:04] <hillix> ok
[12:06] <SteveBell> hi all. I'm trying to find out if a harddrive that took a dive from my living room table is ok. I did "sudo e2fsck /dev/sdb1 and here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764468/ . what does this mean? is the drive damaged? What should I do? reformat? or just keep it like it is?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> walltender: how much RAM do you have?
[12:08] <walltender> 3.6 G memory, 3.8 G swap. memory was only occupied less than 1/4 but swap is full.
[12:08] <walltender> was full.
[12:10] <walltender> ActionParsnip:
[12:16] <babyswizz> cant seem to download synaptic package manager, am getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764428/
[12:17] <auronandace> babyswizz: do an apt-get update first
[12:18] <hounddog> hi guys, i am having a problem that my wireless is block due to rfkill, when i try to unblock it, my system freezes completly
[12:22] <babyswizz> cant seem to download synaptic package manager, am getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764428/
[12:23] <Walex> babyswizz: add the default APT sources.
[12:24] <babyswizz> walex: how ?
[12:24] <Walex> hounddog: buggy WiFi chipset driver, they are often buggy. Get another WiFi chip or get a newer backported kernel
[12:25] <Walex> ubotu sources
[12:25] <Walex> !sources
[12:26] <Walex> babyswizz: if you installed from CD/DVD probably the only package source configured is that CD/DVD.
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> babyswizz  what's the outcome of    cat /etc/issue ?
[12:32] <babyswizz> monkeydust: what issue
[12:33] <MonkeyDust> babyswizz  type cat /etc/issue and paste the output here, you may be using a !eol version of ubuntu
[12:36] <babyswizz> monkeydust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764543/
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> babyswizz  ok, good, now type    sudo apt-get update      and then install synaptic
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> why synaptic when software centre is in a default install?
[12:39] <babyswizz1> monkeydust: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764543/
[12:40] <dhs227> How do I install a standalone .deb package in ubuntu? 13.04
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> babyswizz1  ok, it seems you lost connection when i answered
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> dhs227: double click it
[12:40] <babyswizz1> yes I did
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> babyswizz  now type    sudo apt-get update      and then install synaptic
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> dhs227: or:  sudo dpkg -i /path/to/filename.deb
[12:41] <dhs227> where to verify its default location before I install?
[12:41] <dhs227> e.g. to confirm /usr/bin will be used rather than /usr/local/bin
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> dhs227: it will be the file structure in the files, you can extract the deb if you want, then extract data.tar.gz
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> dhs227: most debs add a launcher
[12:42] <dhs227> a launcher? like a initial script?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> dhs227: like a binary, that goes in /usr/bin  it should also make a launcher in /usr/share/applications like your other apps
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> dhs227: it may not though
[12:43] <dhs227> what tool I can use to look into .deb? preferably in shell.
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> dhs227: ar x filename.deb
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> dhs227: then extract the data archive
[12:45] <babyswizz> monkeydust: do I run sudo apt-get update before install synaptic?
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> babyswizz  yes
[12:45] <dhs227> a control.tar.gz and a data.tar.gz extracted.
[12:48] <dhs227> I love the fish shell 2.0
[12:49] <dhs227> it's convenient and looks fancy.
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> dhs227: the data archive has the files, you will see familiar folders
[12:51] <babyswizz> monkey dust: this is the output after i ran sudo apt-get update http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764574/
[12:51] <babyswizz> and sudo apt-get install is still the same output
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> babyswizz:  wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[12:53] <MonkeyDust> babyswizz  ignore that error for now, install synaptic first
[12:54] <babyswizz> actionparsnip: dont get you
[12:54] <babyswizz> monkeydust: still give the same errors
[12:56] <dhs227> Shell login keeps nag me like `# packages can be updated. # updates are security updates.` and it takes seconds before prompt.
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> babyswizz: its a command, copy it as one command and run it in the terminal
[12:56] <dhs227> How to ignore the check or display?
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> babyswizz  can you install anything else? there may be an issue with the local server
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> dhs227: in /etc/update-motd.d/
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> dhs227: http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5716
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> dhs227: took me about 60 seconds to find
[12:58] <dhs227> ActionParsnip, :)
[12:59]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[12:59] <b-ot> ActionParsnip: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[13:00] <babyswizz> actionparsnip: what exactly does the command do
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> babyswizz: its a script to remove all packageknowledge online then redownload. Its the commands from the official package repair how-to but in a script because I'm lazy
[13:00] <SteveBell> hi all. I'm trying to find out if a harddrive that took a dive from my living room table is ok. I did "sudo e2fsck /dev/sdb1 and here is the output http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764468/ . what does this mean? is the drive damaged? What should I do? reformat? or just keep it like it is?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> babyswizz: it will delete the hash mismatched file then recreate it but not broken
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> SteveBell: sounds like corrupted data, I'd just use backups, much easier
[13:02] <cristian_c> Hi
[13:02] <cristian_c> I've installed qt4-qtconfig
[13:02] <cristian_c> If I open the tool and I edit the font settings, clicking on File->Save, this string appears in the statusbar: 'Saved changes.'
[13:03] <cristian_c> but if I close and reopen the tool, there are not the new settings anymore
[13:03] <cristian_c> How can I solve it?
[13:03] <SteveBell> ActionParsnip: not sure what you mean. so the harddrive itself is ok? then I'd just reformat and copy all data onto it again from a backup.
[13:03] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[13:03] <babyswizz> actionparsnip: in other words i have a problem with my software sources?
[13:03] <esperegu> anyone knows howto restart pulseaudio properly? it is running in system mode. 'service pulseaudio stop' or 'service pulseaudio restart' does not seem to work
[13:04] <Kurza> ct
[13:04] <Kurza> oops wrong channel.
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> babyswizz: yes but the script fixes them
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> esperegu: killall pulseaudio
[13:05] <MonkeyDust> ActionParsnip  i'm testing the script in a chroot :)
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> esperegu: it will then autorestart
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: as soon as I see 'hash mismatch' in apt-get I deploy that script
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: step 5 here, is all it is: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PackageManagerTroubleshootingProcedure
[13:08] <MonkeyDust> reading...
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> "Step 2 Disable all PPA repositories" :)
[13:11] <demonoid_me> hello to all
[13:11] <demonoid_me> i need some help
[13:11] <SteveBell> ActionParsnip: could you elaborate on what you meant by "I'd just use backups"?
[13:11] <demonoid_me> how can i create bootable usb with  acronis disk?
[13:12] <demonoid_me> acronis disk file (iso file)
[13:12] <demonoid_me> ?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> SteveBell: your data is backed up, right?
[13:12] <demonoid_me> exoooooooooooooo
[13:12] <demonoid_me> :D
[13:15] <SteveBell> ActionParsnip: yes, I can erase that disk. my main question is, if that drive should still be fully operational. don't mind re-formatting
[13:16] <SteveBell> although that would be the third time I go through the 2 day process of cloning 2TB :P
[13:16] <bgardner> SteveBell: You might want to do a surface test on the drive if it took a sharp impact as you describe.
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> SteveBell: there are tools on the ultimate boot cd, it will test the drive extensively using the manufacturers tool
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> SteveBell: they have the tols from the main drive manufacturers
[13:18] <SteveBell> bgardner: ActionParsnip thanks for the hints. don't have a boot cd. but have a bottable USB. but since it's an external drive wouldn't be booting up the "normal" ubuntu on the machine be sufficient to access those tests?
[13:18] <SteveBell> * bootable
[13:22] <squig> im trying to find a way to make my computer stop trying to use the wireless connection available on my phone over the inbuilt ethernet
[13:23] <esperegu> ActionParsnip: killing it does not seem to work properly
[13:24] <TomJ616> Hey guys
[13:31] <VictorCL> hi I need urgent help
[13:31] <VictorCL> I ge this error when running tideSDK
[13:31] <VictorCL> libstdc++.so.6: version GLIBCXX_3.4.15 not found
[13:32] <VictorCL> strings /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 | grep GLIBCXX only shows up to 3.4.14
[13:32] <VictorCL> how can I get the .15 ???
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> VictorCL  what ubuntu version? if you want something newer than what's in the repos, you need a ppa, but that's not supported here
[13:34] <VictorCL> 11.04
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> 11.04 is !eol
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> !eolupgrades
[13:41] <user82> hi. i connected a ps3 controller with usb and now it moves my mouse cursor. does someone know where to disable this?
[13:42] <Left_Turn> can ubuntu read .doc files
[13:43] <auronandace> Left_Turn: libreoffice can
[13:43] <Pici> Left_Turn: Yes, LibreOffice can open .doc and docx files.
[13:43] <Left_Turn> oh ok thank you guys
[13:48] <b14d3> I'm having some issues with getting my gui to load at boot. It boots to a blank screen. I have the nomodeset fix implemented in grub, so that shouldn't be the problem. I have a Radeon HD 6670. Every time my computer boots it inflates my .xsession-errors file until it takes up the rest of the space on the HD. This is far beyond my current skill level with Linux. I can access the machine via ssh still, so I should be able to get any i
[13:51] <zahory> b14d3 : say it again for the recently joined
[13:52] <oskar-> hi all, could you name me a git code review tool, that is in the repositories?
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> !find git
[13:54] <tithan> some capacity of my HD is hidden
[13:54] <b14d3> I'm having some issues with getting my gui to load at boot. It boots to a blank screen. I have the nomodeset fix implemented in grub, so that shouldn't be the problem. I have a Radeon HD 6670. Every time my computer boots it inflates my .xsession-errors file until it takes up the rest of the space on the HD. This is far beyond my current skill level with Linux. I can access the machine via ssh still, so I should be able to get any i
[13:55] <bgardner> b14d3: Show us (paste.ubuntu.com) the result of tail -n 100 .xsession-errors
[13:56] <SteveBell> bgardner: would this work for a ext2 drive? sudo apt-get install badblocks
[13:56] <SteveBell> sudo badblocks /dev/sda
[13:57] <SteveBell> or more like fsck.ext2 -c ?
[13:57] <bgardner> SteveBell: Those actually work out to be the same thing
[13:58] <SteveBell> but since I saw all that messy output from the e2fsck wouldn't a re-format be appropriate?
[13:58] <bgardner> SteveBell: But yes, do that.  You can include the -w parameter if you are sure you don't need the contents of the drive.
[13:58] <b14d3> bgardner: Can't currently. In order to get it to save anything I had to delete it. It was no longer saving my irssi configuration. But, I'll return in just a second with that. Will only take a minute or so.
[13:59] <SteveBell> bgardner: so I'd reformat maybe to ext4 then do fsck.ext4 -c -w ?
[14:00] <bgardner> SteveBell: If you want to call it from fsck, then it's -c -c, not -c -w
[14:00] <bgardner> SteveBell: Otherwise yes.
[14:00] <SteveBell> ok perfect.
[14:01]  * SteveBell wanders of to a long drive test and then mirroring the backup drive :)
[14:03] <b14d3> Hi. I'm back. I'm not really sure what happened, but I rebooted and now it appears to be working just fine. In the future, I'll look at the .xsession-errors file and try and figure it out. This is really weird.
[14:03] <bgardner> b14d3: No problem, let us know if you need help
[14:06] <bugtraq> hola
[14:14] <phillyj> has anyone tried to use okidata laser printers in linux? In the market, and just learned of this brand
[14:19] <turbodark> #hello
[14:28] <SteveBell> bgardner: sorry to bother again. I tried ejecting the drive then re-formatting to ext4 resulting in the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764834/
[14:28] <Esokrates> hi, when i change a boot parameter in /etc/default/grub is it necessary to run update-initramfs -u too?
[14:30] <bgardner> SteveBell: What was the command that you issued that resulted in that error message?
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> esperegu: no, just run:  sudo update-grub
[14:32] <SteveBell> bgardner: no command. I used the disk-utility and clicked format drive
[14:32] <Esokrates> ActionParsnip, "no, just run:  sudo update-grub" sounded as it would have been an answer to my question ... did you write the wrong name by mistake?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Esokrates: yes, it answers you. You don't have to run update-initramfs, you simply need to run:  sudo update-grub
[14:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Esokrates: It is :) Usually only an app or process that needs an updated initrd will do it itself.
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Esokrates: your question was 'do I need to run update-initramfs' was it not?
[14:34] <GreatEmerald> Is there a way to change/hide the "Ubuntu Desktop" string that you see in the Unity panel when no program is open? This is with 12.04
[14:34] <Esokrates> ActionParsnip, yeah, i asked if it does sth. when i run it after sudo update-grub
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> Esokrates: i replied 'no' as in 'its not needed'..
[14:34] <Esokrates> ActionParsnip: okay thanks, because i have read it very often
[14:34] <jeevanus> hai, my entire system crashed
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> Esokrates: it doesn't hurt to run it, just doesn't change anything :)
[14:34] <bgardner> SteveBell: I'd suggest doing it (mke2fs) at the command line and checking the results from there.
[14:35] <jeevanus> how to get data from dump?
[14:35] <jeevanus> i want to restore my entire system
[14:35] <jeevanus> please help me
[14:35] <Esokrates> ActionParsnip: so update-initramfs does not look at grub at all?
[14:35] <SteveBell> bgardner: mke2fs /dev/sdb1 ? just to make sure I don't ruin things even more :P
[14:36] <jeevanus> haloo
[14:36] <jeevanus> anyone there?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> jeevanus: reinstall then restore data from backup
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Esokrates: to my knowledge, no
[14:36] <jeevanus> backup means?
[14:36] <Esokrates> ActionParsnip: thank you sir
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> Esokrates: np :)
[14:36] <jeevanus> do i have to live boot again?
[14:37] <jeevanus> actualy i gave chmod -R 755 to all folders in file system, which made the problem, no other possible way?
[14:37] <Frosh> "sudo apt-get install lm-sensors" is not available? is there a new name?
[14:37] <bgardner> SteveBell: If you want to do the surface test beforehand: sudo mke2fs -t ext4 -c -c /dev/sdb1
[14:38] <Esokrates> jeevanus: simply boot an live cd, mount the harddrive and copy your data
[14:38] <Esokrates> jeevanus: then reinstall everything and play back the backup
[14:38] <jeevanus> but all the applications will be gone right?
[14:38] <jeevanus> Esokrates: ^
[14:39] <brian234> Hi guys, how would I go about partitioning a usb so that partition 1 would be a bootable startup disk and partition 2 would be for ordinary data?
[14:39] <Esokrates> jeevanus: of course you have an new system ... you could backup the application settings from /etc and /home
[14:39] <Esokrates> jeevanus: simply reinstalling everything and using the old config files should do it
[14:39] <jeevanus> I think the commands like restore or dump - will help - won't it?
[14:39] <jeevanus> okay
[14:40] <jeevanus> thanks
[14:40] <Esokrates> jeevanus: to be on the safe side: copy the whole /home and /etc
[14:40] <Esokrates> jeevanus: including hidden folders
[14:40] <TomJ616> Hey guys, quick question
[14:40] <SonikkuAmerica> !ask | TomJ616
[14:41] <Esokrates> jeevanus: but be careful: miconfigured stuff could ruin your new install too
[14:41] <Esokrates> jeevanus: and i suppose sth. is not right with the configs when your system does not boot anymore
[14:42] <jeevanus> if i take /etc directory and /opt
[14:42] <Esokrates> jeevanus:why opt?
[14:42] <jeevanus> will i be able to relink all the applications to the menu automaticaly
[14:42] <Esokrates> jeevanus: to waht menu?
[14:42] <TomJ616> I made a bootable USB with pendrive, but everytime I try to install Ubuntu, my monitor goes out of range. Is there a way to set a resolution for the install process?
[14:43] <jeevanus> Xfce Desktop Menu
[14:43] <jeevanus> I have made lots of configurations, all will vanish if i do your process
[14:43] <jeevanus> thats y thinking of it
[14:43] <Esokrates> jeevanus: i don't know xfce specific config file, but the menu config file has to exist somewhere (or maybe it is not a file, i dunno)
[14:44] <jeevanus> ok
[14:44] <Esokrates> jeevanus: but in the worst case simply reconfigure the stuff manually
[14:44] <jeevanus> is it no other possible way to restore my system?
[14:45] <Esokrates> jeevanus: depends on what you have done
[14:45] <jeevanus> will things be in as dump files?
[14:45] <jeevanus> so that i can restore?
[14:46] <Esokrates> jeevanus: what exactly is the problem? what have you done?
[14:46] <TomJ616> Anyone?
[14:46] <jeevanus> i gace chmod -R 775
[14:46] <jeevanus> to all directory in /
[14:46] <Esokrates> jeevanus: what do you mean by dumb files?
[14:46] <jeevanus> including ./root
[14:47] <jeevanus> when i reboot, the system is stoped in loginscreen
[14:47] <jeevanus> and not proceeding if i give password
[14:47] <Esokrates> jeevanus: okay ... what have you done before the last reboot?
[14:47] <jeevanus> dump is a package, if u install, it will have backup of all file changed
[14:48] <jeevanus> ya before last boot i gave chmod -R 775
[14:48] <jeevanus> to all directory
[14:48] <Esokrates> jeevanus: and you did nothing else?
[14:48] <jeevanus> to give permission for admin user to access all system files by default
[14:48] <jeevanus> nop
[14:48] <jeevanus> i did nothn else
[14:49] <Esokrates> jeevanus: that's very stupid ... it is logical you can't login as a normal user anymore
[14:49] <Esokrates> jeevanus: btw: root has access to all files and folders
[14:49] <jeevanus> :(
[14:50] <jeevanus> is it possible to convert chmod for all directory to default rather than 755 ?
[14:50] <Esokrates> jeevanus: change to a virtual terminal (Strg+Alt+F1)
[14:50] <jonno11> Hi guys. How can I graph memory usage over a day?
[14:50] <Esokrates> jeevanus: only problem you have: ubuntu does not support logging in as root :( so i guess you have a problem
[14:50] <jeevanus> im in virtual terminal right now
[14:51] <jeevanus> oops
[14:51] <Esokrates> jeevanus: yeah but logging in there might not work if it does not work graphically
[14:51] <jeevanus> ok i shall try recovery form live boot
[14:51] <jeevanus> thanks
[14:51] <Sovereign> hich printer company has good Linux support?
[14:51] <jeevanus> ya not working graphicaly
[14:52] <Esokrates> jeevanus: sorry i have to quit now as I have a meeting in 10 minutes ... I am online in the evening an willing to help you ...
[14:52] <jeevanus> ok bye
[14:52] <jeevanus> :)
[14:52] <bgardner> SteveBell: Have a meeting in ten minutes, I'll be back on in an hour or so.
[14:52] <Rallias> Is there an equivelant to thin_dump for ubuntu?
[14:53] <jonno11> Hi guys. How can I graph system memory usage over a day?
[14:53] <jonno11> sudo apt-get install python-setuptools python-dev build-essential
[14:53] <jonno11> wow… wrong channel. My apologies...
[14:55] <cloneG> hello I am using no-ip how could I find the dns-domain is working?
[14:55] <Frosh> what does it mean to have service --status-all with a dash?
[14:56] <cloneG> ifconfig doesnt show it
[14:56] <somsip> cloneG: nslookup maybe?
[14:56] <somsip> cloneG: erm...or dig
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: dig yourname @8.8.8.8
[14:57] <cloneG> nslookup throws this :                 >
[14:57] <lasindi> The Software Updater window is not displaying even though I can see the program is running in the launcher. I can even right click on the launcher icon and install updates (with a progress bar appearing on the launcher) but still no actual window. Anyone else experiencing this?
[14:58] <gkimball> I have some weirdness happening on my prompt. Whenever I change directory it does this. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764931/  Any ideas where this could be coming from?
[14:58] <parkd_> i just installed ubuntu 13.04 alongside windows 8, (not with wubi) and when i shut off and turn on my computer, it does not give the option to boot to ubuntu, any solutions?
[14:58] <auronandace> !uefi | parkd_
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> gkimball: what if you run:   cd /opt
[14:59] <cloneG> okay dig worked and my dns domain too
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: sweet
[14:59] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: Same thing no matter what directory i move to
[14:59] <cloneG> I want it to use a vpn connection with a windows machine
[15:00] <cloneG> is it possible to remote desktop in another ubuntu session?
[15:00] <parkd_> okay do i have to make a uefi partition then?
[15:00] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: It's almost like there is an alias setup somewhere that is running something everytime i do CD
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: session or system (physical or virtual)?
[15:00] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: But I have ruled out my home directory
[15:01] <RUCKER> Hi all, I'm in serious need of help :(.  not sure what has happened but i get the feeling my HDD may be broken.  When i try to log in the computer spits out a heap of errors and freezes.
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> gkimball: run:   env     and you will see aliases etc
[15:01] <cloneG> openvpn on ubuntu 12.04 and with a w7 openvpn client
[15:01] <RUCKER> i am dual booting with windows 7 and thats not working either
[15:01] <somsip> ActionParsnip: env or alias?
[15:01] <cloneG> I would like to use w7 to remotely login another ubuntu session
[15:01] <T-DeskTop> Does anyone know that ReviewBoard can be installed on solaris or not?
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> somsip: why not both :)
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: to achieve what ?
[15:02] <somsip> ActionParsnip: why not indeed :) cloneG
[15:02] <Pici> T-DeskTop: Perhaps you should ask some channel that deals with reviewboard or solaris... not #ubuntu
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: there may be a sleeker solution
[15:02] <cloneG> multiple ubuntu logins
[15:03] <cloneG> thats what I want to achieve
[15:03] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: It must not be an alias, I don't see anything in my env that would be doing this
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> cloneG: you can use vnc I guess, or ltsp
[15:03] <KI7YY> cloneG Ubuntu, as is all Linux, is multi-user by design
[15:04] <KI7YY> any ssh client for w7 can do that
[15:04] <T-DeskTop> Pici, yeah i should have
[15:04] <gkimball> If I type cd by itself it takes me to the home directory with the same messages
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> gkimball  cd is one way to go to your home folder
[15:05] <gkimball> MonkeyDust: yup, just saying that no matter what form of cd i type i get this message. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764931/
[15:06] <cloneG> vnc ltsp¡
[15:06] <cloneG> ?
[15:06] <cloneG> and why not vpn?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> gkimball: what is the output of:   type cd
[15:07] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764952/
[15:07] <KI7YY> cloneG you can use a simple app such as teamviewer if you want a remorte gui
[15:08] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: Hmmm, could it be something to do with rvm?
[15:09] <cloneG> yep but teamviewer uses servers I dont need
[15:09] <cloneG> I want a secure connection between two computers
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> gkimball: you have defined that somewhere, it should say 'cd is a shell builtin'
[15:10] <KI7YY> well the problem is xwindows sharing with w7 cloneG. W7 does not have the safety and inherent multi-user capability of Linux. For a secure connection use SSH it is very secure
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> gkimball: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[15:10] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: Hmm, is there a way to see where function definitions are defined?
[15:11] <gkimball> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> gkimball: I'd look in /etc/environment and ~/.bashrc
[15:13] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: .bashrc and all the stuff in my home directory will be fine. I use Git to keep the same setup across multiple computers. Just this ssh server is being silly and i think it's something a co-worker messed up on.
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> gkimball: check ~/.profile   too
[15:14] <gkimball> Action ahh true
[15:15] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: I believe this is default .profile? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5764974/
[15:17] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: Nothing weird in environment
[15:17] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: bash.bashrc is default
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> gkimball: looks fine, you could always grep the entire file system for those lines from the type output
[15:25] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: When I do declare -F I can see all defined functions
[15:25] <Serpiente> I configured my server to use a proxy server in our local network with setting http_proxy variable, how can I bypass the use of the proxy for internal network traffic?
[15:26] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: grepping cd returns declare -f _cd, declare -f _cd_devices
[15:26] <gkimball> I think the offender is this _cd
[15:29] <gkimball> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5765022/
[15:29] <mop> do I have to update apt to have a newly added ppa usable?
[15:30] <TKing> since i cant access desktop i did a reboot using boot repair and this is the output even though i still cannt login  to user desktop http://paste.ubuntu.com/5765018/
[15:30] <bazhang> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade mop
[15:30] <mop> why the upgrade?
[15:31] <bazhang> to upgrade all packages
[15:31] <bazhang> then install whatever you wish from the ppa, there's sometimes more than one package mop
[15:33] <mop> but is the upgrade necessary to install a pckg from the ppa?
[15:34] <Pici> mop: Doing 'upgrade' will not upgrade you to a new release of Ubuntu.
[15:35] <mop> I know, it just that i'm making a script and making it upgrade the packages will make it take longer
[15:35] <mop> I just want to install a package form the ppa
[15:36] <orestis> hello I have a problem.... I installed nvidia drivers but i cannot use the drivers. I run nvidia-xconfig but it says the command was not found
[15:36] <Pici> mop: Then just the 'update' and 'install' steps are needed.
[15:37] <mop> is there a way to install directly from a ppa without having to add it?
[15:37] <mop> so I don't even have to update
[15:37] <mop> :P
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> mop  a ppa is a source, so you have to add it first
[15:38] <Pici> mop: You can download .deb files directly, but without knowing what exactly the dependencies are and if they require new versions that are only on the PPA, its really not a good idea.
[15:39] <mop> can I get the .deb file address from any ppa?
[15:39] <mop> any ppa's packages
[15:43] <manikiran> mine is Dual boot system with windows vista and ubuntu 12.04
[15:43] <manikiran> I upgraded to 12.10 and now I cannot install ndiswrapper-dkms
[15:43] <manikiran> please advice me., now the wireless in the windows too is not working
[15:47] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[15:50] <minimec> mantovan1: If it's not working on both OS, the device is hard/software blocked. Swich the device off/on with the hardware switch (if you have one) and type 'rfkill list' once in a terminal, to check if it is software blocked.
[15:52] <Sirisian|Work> If I have an apt-get install -y then like a 100 packages, what's a simple way to verify they all installed correctly?
[15:53] <minimec> mantovan1: Oh. Is that a Lenovo device maybe? I had once, where I had to reset the BIOS to default from time to time. http://askubuntu.com/questions/143208/unable-to-enable-wireless-on-lenovo-3000-v200
[15:53] <dhci> check if the retval for apt-get is zero then presumably everything went ok
[15:54] <minimec> mantovan1: ... hade one once ... ;)
[15:57] <christian> hi
[15:57] <Guest27439> has anyone gotten tmuxinator installed on ubunu?
[15:58] <Guest27439> anyone?
[16:00] <wheatthin> Guest27439, is that program supported by ubuntu?
[16:01] <bazhang> !info tmuxinator
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> Guest27439  it's called tmux
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> !info tmux
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> i guess tmux is similar to screen
[16:02] <mweltin> I'm working on PCI compliance and (addressing CVE-2012-2687).  http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/USN-1627-1/ suggests I need apache2.2-common 2.2.22-6ubuntu2.1 installed.  When I look at the update instructions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Security/Upgrades, I have already taken these step.  How do I verify that I have the correct versions of the aforementioned packages? Will using dpkg -s <package name> and looking at the "status" be sufficient?
[16:02] <Guest27439> MonkeyDust: tmux is. tmuxinator is something else
[16:03] <mweltin> for example dpkg -s apache2.2-common  Status: install ok installed ?
[16:03] <wheatthin> Guest27439, I'd suggest googling for the ppa and install in there (completely off ubuntu grid)
[16:06] <mop> is wget asynchronous?
[16:06] <mop> it looks like it's acting that way
[16:08] <wheatthin> mop, wget is like any transfer program, it's just not a sync program if that's what you're asking
[16:09] <TomJ616> Guys, is there a way to tell Ubuntu what resolution to use during install?
[16:09] <TomJ616> I've been going nuts trying to find a solution online
[16:10] <ActionPa1snip> TomJ616: you could edit the session config file to set the res using xrandr
[16:10] <wheatthin> mop, git or subversion is more what you're looking for
[16:12] <TomJ616> I'm a first Linux user BTW
[16:12] <TomJ616> Actually, seeing how I haven't been able to install it, I'm not a user yet lol
[16:12] <Track> What ??
[16:13] <wheatthin> TomJ616, Umm do you have a specific question?
[16:13] <auronandace> TomJ616: why do you need to change the resolution during install? surely you'd want to change it once installed
[16:13] <kiss_kill> TomJ616:you can see wiki
[16:13] <kiss_kill> wiki is very importent
[16:13] <TomJ616> I can't install Ubuntu at all, seeing how my monitor goes "out of range"
[16:13] <kiss_kill> wiki
[16:14] <cat5> we got any LVM experts kicking around in here, or a good room recomendation? #lvm seems "quiet"
[16:14] <kiss_kill> ubuntu wiki
[16:14] <kiss_kill> you can have a look
[16:16] <TomJ616> I've spent the last IDK how many hours reading wikis and what not lol
[16:16] <TomJ616> No luck
[16:17] <kiss_kill> you can use 2 cumputers   one see wiki  another install ubuntu
[16:20] <Guest91716> I have xubuntu. When I want to send someone something from another online site, it says I have to sign up for some blog or something. I forget exactly what it says. But how can I send a friend a site to look at without having to do that?
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> Guest91716  i guess it's question for the site's maintainer
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> not really ubuntu related
[16:21] <kiss_kill> ye
[16:21] <kiss_kill> MonkeyDust is right
[16:22] <TomJ616> So, any ideas?
[16:22] <TomJ616> lol
[16:22] <Guest91716> umm so, it depends on the site? There's no easy way to send something to someone from an online site?
[16:22] <kiss_kill> :)
[16:23] <Guest91716> I've noticed that on different online sites. They ask for you to sign up for some blog so that you can get e-mail. I don't get it.
[16:23] <lapalu1> :-D
[16:23] <auronandace> Guest91716: still has nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:23] <kiss_kill> sign up
[16:23] <kiss_kill> know it?
[16:23] <Guest91716> oh   O.K.
[16:24] <Frosh> pastebin.com/HG2qQsJa then I do sudo service kmod start and kmod stop/waiting
[16:24] <Frosh> Is that normal? running
[16:27] <kirankumar> how to install a software in ubuntu ? what Syntax for insall software.
[16:27] <auronandace> !software | kirankumar
[16:28] <kiss_kill> softcenter
[16:28] <kirankumar> thanks ubottu sir,
[16:28] <kiss_kill> or sudo apt-get install your soft
[16:29] <LupusNoctis> Anyone aware of some special tricks, or guides, on how to get 13.04 installed inside  Windows Virtual PC  VMs?
[16:30] <auronandace> LupusNoctis: why not use virtualbox?
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> LupusNoctis  in this channel, you'll find more support for virtualbox
[16:31] <ubu> haha I'm running dapper drake :D
[16:31] <sim642> After upgrading from Ubuntu server 12.10 to 13.04, the network configuration doesn't work properly on boot: "waiting more than 60 seconds ...." and when it finally boots, no network, but after "service networking restart" all works. How can I fix this?
[16:31] <auronandace> ubu: long since unsupported
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> ubu  thou art a brave man :)
[16:32] <LupusNoctis> Hmm, might have to fiddle with Virtual Box, then.  it pretty  simple to get it installed?
[16:32] <ubu> Just wanted to experience a little ubuntu history
[16:32] <kiss_kill> go to bed  88  china now time is 00:32  gaga
[16:33] <LupusNoctis> The real goal is to find some way of getting specific apps to use a VPN tunnel, by exe/ProcessID,  rather than by route
[16:33] <ubu> LupusNoctis: very easy
[16:34] <LupusNoctis> but for now, I'm settling for running those apps inside a VM, and giving the all the VM traffic to the VPN route
[16:35] <ububhm> virtualbox is a little too fun to play with. Been up all night with it. lol
[16:38] <edward__> Hello is there a way to script around the fact that a standard postgres install needs conf file editing?
[16:39] <babyswizz> I would like to know what happens when you have a disrupted network while having an update, does ubuntu go back and try to install the updates it skipped while the network was disrupted?
[16:41] <TKing> error: unknown filesystem grub rescue> please how do i fix this?
[16:41] <Macuser> Hi. If the dhcp is reset on my Mac by going to sleep. Will that cause me not to be able to ssh to my Linux box?
[16:41] <Macuser> originally I ssh'ed from my Macbook Pro to my Linux desktop. Then I took the wificard out of my linux box and also closed my Mac laptop. Then the next morning, I opened my Mac laptop and also plugged the wificard back into the linux box and then I tried the same command and it didn't work
[16:41] <Macuser> Finally, it worked after I turned my wifi off and on again on my Mac. I'm not sure if that's why it started working again
[16:41] <TKing> error: unknown filesystem grub rescue> please how do i fix this? i do not have any other windows
[16:42] <MonkeyDust> babyswizz  most probably, you can repair / continue with dpkg -a --repair or with apt-get -f install
[16:43] <bkfitz> Anyone here use sublime-text?
[16:43] <bazhang> !find sublime
[16:44] <rti^> I'm trying to install libimobiledevice-1.1.5 and I run ./config an it goes through it's process but it does not produce a makefile. The README says to run make after I ./config but since there is no makefile produced, it can't be found. Help!
[16:45] <trism> rti^: pastebining the last few lines of ./configure output might help
[16:47] <TKing> please how do i fix this? error: unknown filesystem grub rescue> please how do i fix this? i do not have any other windows
[16:49] <subz3r0> !grub | TKing
[16:54] <TKing> subz3ro i get unknow commands no matter what i type? ls -l , rescue, help, update-grub, sudo update-grub nothing all i see is grub rescue >
[16:55] <LupusNoctis> Hmm, VirtualBox does nice drive sharing with the host OS?
[16:56] <subz3r0> LupusNoctis: depends what you mean with "nice drive sharing". but yes it is possible to share data between host and guest easily
[17:01] <rachid> hi everyone, i would like to install gnome-shell on my ubuntu 11.10
[17:01] <rachid> anyone to help?
[17:01] <LupusNoctis> Just trying to transfer bulk files out and in, renders and whatnot
[17:01] <Macuser> find gnome-shell
[17:01] <Macuser> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell?
[17:01] <ripplebit> guys how do i format an SD card?
[17:03] <MonkeyDust> rachid  you won't find 11.10 sources, it's !eol
[17:03] <adamk> Macuser: Do you have an actual question there?
[17:03] <xangua> ripplebit: use the Disk utility, search it in the dash
[17:03] <Macuser> adamk Woah! Dude is your name adam and last name start with a "k" ??
[17:04] <adamk> Macuser: Yes...
[17:04] <Macuser> Same!
[17:06] <kenshiro> Hi, I use Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome Classic Desktop. I need a CPU temperature indicator to put in a panel. I don't want to install external repositories. Is there someone in official repositories? Thanks !
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> kenshiro  try conky or grell
[17:07] <Macuser> query adamk what's the second letter in your last name?
[17:07] <Macuser> since when do queries not work anymore?
[17:08] <adamk> Macuser: i
[17:08] <genii> Since you forgot to put a / before the command
[17:08] <Macuser> adamk OMG! same
[17:08] <kenshiro> MonkeyDust thank you ! :)
[17:09] <Macuser> adamk: third letter?
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> kenshiro  it's gkrell, i mistyped
[17:09] <adamk> Macuser: Seriously?  It doesn't matter.
[17:09] <Macuser> Ah. you can tell it's been a while since i've been on irc. Actually not really. I should have known that
[17:10] <kenshiro> MonkeyDust ok, installing ... thank you ! :-)
[17:10] <tilted> Hi -- is there any utility to securely wipe the free space of a drive, while leaving existing partitions alone?  I want to preserve a recovery partition, but wipe everything else off the drive. Something similar to DBAN but as I understand, that will wipe the whole drive including the recovery partition.
[17:10] <Macuser> adamk answer the pm
[17:11] <rhizome> is there anything more reliable than ntop for friendly local network monitoring? rather not wireshark, but will if i have to.
[17:11] <subz3r0> tilted: dd
[17:12] <subz3r0> rhizome: yes
[17:12] <subz3r0> rhizome: vnstat
[17:13] <tilted> subz3r0: Hmm, hadn't thought of that.  That could work if given randomized input.  Will do some research, thanks.
[17:13] <subz3r0> searched a while for a tool like that. it can show you the realtime tx and rx. also you can see month,day,hour.... up/down
[17:14] <rhizome> subz3r0: swank, thanks a lot
[17:14] <subz3r0> np
[17:15] <rhizome> ntop used to be so nice
[17:16] <bandit22> Does anyone have a problem with firefox crashing frequently in 12.04?
[17:16] <LiquidDemocracy> What is the name of the offtopic channel again?
[17:17] <Marvin_Leo> ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS not connecting to internet via linksys e900 wireless-n300 router. Any ideas?
[17:17] <subz3r0> #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:18] <subz3r0> Marvin_Leo: maybe tell us what you did to troubleshoot the issue?
[17:18] <LiquidDemocracy> I mean offtopic for all channels.
[17:18] <subz3r0> --> /quit
[17:18] <llutz> !alis | LiquidDemocracy
[17:20] <Crowler> does 13.04 support logical partitions?
[17:20] <llutz> Crowler: sure
[17:22]  * genii sips his coffee and ponders the booting from extended partition problem
[17:24] <Orange_> Hey, can anyone help me with a Ubuntu problem?
[17:24] <Jermakovi> Good evening :)
[17:24] <adamk> Orange_: Only if you ask a real question.
[17:25] <jerry5> Hi. How can I modify Ubuntu to auto shutdown if the unlock screen password is incorrect?
[17:25] <music> hello
[17:25] <GGG> ello
[17:26] <Orange_> Haha, fair enough; I was installing my driver for a Radeon Hd 4200 on Ubuntu and after I installed it and restarted eveyrthing has fucked up.. The resolution on my monitors is now veyr low ad says "laptop" instead of two monitors with 1920x1080 and such and the menu bar is gone, the info in th etop of the screen is gone, etc..
[17:26] <Orange_> Not sure how to fix it
[17:26] <adamk> Orange_: Pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.  How did you install the driver?
[17:27] <subz3r0> Orange_: buy a decent gfx card.
[17:27] <subz3r0> means nvidia ;)
[17:27] <tithan> my computer  HD som capacity is unlocated how i can do?
[17:27] <Orange_> I downloaded the file from the AMD website, then ran it with sudo ./amd-whatever
[17:27] <Orange_> Working on the log file, hold on
[17:27] <adamk> Orange_: sigh...  Bad idea.
[17:27] <adamk> Orange_: What version of Ubuntu?
[17:28] <poee> has seamonkey been removed from ubuntu repositories?
[17:28] <poee> !seamonkey
[17:28] <Orange_> 13.04
[17:28] <subz3r0> adamk: why bad idea? The drivers of the repos are hardly outdated
[17:28] <subz3r0> especially for ati cards...
[17:28] <adamk> subz3r0: He didn't use the driver in the repos.  He used a driver from AMD, which will not work with Xorg on 13.904.
[17:29] <adamk> Orange_: Your only options with that GPU on 13.04 are to use the open source drivers, or use the legacy fglrx driver, which requires downgrading all of Xorg.
[17:29] <GGG> I need to boot from a USB with Ubuntu on a Razor Blade - on power up I'm able to press F12 and set the boot drive to generic USB and then the screen goes black with white blinking curser -- nothing can be done at this point besides a power down --- the usb only has the Ubuntu ISO on it  (ver 13.x 32bit)    what gives?   Thanks
[17:29] <subz3r0> omg... thats why I would never buy ati/amd again ;)
[17:29] <Orange_> So would it just be a better idea to reformat?
[17:30] <adamk> Orange_: Remove the driver you installed.
[17:30] <Crowler> GGG you forgot to make it bootable
[17:30] <Orange_> How do I do that? (Sorry I know it's a stupid question but I'm new to Ubuntu)
[17:30] <Crowler> GGG and you need content of iso on it, not iso itself
[17:32] <Orange_> adamk: How do I uninstall the driver?
[17:32] <adamk> Orange_: Check in /usr/share/amd/ for an uninstall program...  This is another reason to to download and install drivers like this.
[17:33] <GGG> @Crowler   hrm... I followed the directions and watched someone else do this --- the Ubuntu download is an ISO file   if this isn't what is needed where do I get Ubunto's ISO content?
[17:34]  * sere_ looks for a ubuntu coffee mug for genii, since they drink coffee so much.
[17:34] <Crowler> GGG how about unpacking iso?
[17:34] <GGG> derp
[17:34] <m8> conoscete qualche soluzione hardware\software per realizzare un piccolo thin client?
[17:34] <subthalamus_> can somebody confirm that "nanny" is no longer available or has been replaced by something? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ParentalControls
[17:35] <bekks> !it | m8
[17:35] <GGG> Crowler -- and to make it bootable?
[17:35] <Crowler> GGG get syslinux
[17:36] <melow01> I'm planning to install Android Studio. Since I already have Eclipse, does that mean I already have the needed JDK?
[17:37] <Orange_> Found "amd-uninstall.sh" and "fglrx-uninstall.sh" Thanks Adam
[17:38] <GGG> Crowler -- the only machines I have working are OSX, I'm repairing my Win7 ...  know anything on OSX to make the USB bootable?
[17:39]  * GGG googles
[17:40] <mkquist> still using 11.04 Natty, cannot download software through the software center or synaptic...  is that from no support or just a glitch?
[17:41] <genii> mkquist: It's past End Of Life
[17:41] <genii> !eol
[17:41] <Ari-Yang> yep, it's dead
[17:41] <mkquist> genii: ty
[17:42] <genii> mkquist: You're welcome.
[17:42] <m8> bekks, xchat has faked me! amsg :|
[17:43] <Crowler> GGG never used it
[17:43] <GGG> k
[17:45] <orange__> adamx: Alright, I restarted my computer, after the uninstall my monitor issue is fixed (I have them both working now with proper resolution and such) but the rest of the issues still remain (The lack of the menu bar on the left-hand side, the time at the top, the top-right settings, etc..) as well as my hotkeys aren't working other than the standard default setups.
[17:46] <adamk> orange__: Pastebin your current /var/log/Xorg.0.log file.
[17:48] <orange__> adamk: This hurts me to ask it sounds so stupid haha.. But how do I copy and paste the entire log? I'm having trouble selecting all in any normal way..
[17:48] <Neozonz> just installed ubuntu and after initial reboot i get a black screen with a blinking cursor
[17:48] <Neozonz> what gives
[17:48] <adamk> orange__: Install pastebinit and then run 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'
[17:49] <orange__> adamk: Thank you so much. :)
[17:52] <orange__> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5765455/
[17:52] <frey> Hello. Do you know of a way to download all available proprietary Ubuntu WiFi drivers to keep them available offline?
[17:55] <adamk> orange__: Can you bring up a terminal in X and run 'glxinfo | grep -i direct'?
[17:55] <rudolf_> hi all
[17:55] <orange__> adamk: One second
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | neoark
[17:56] <orange__> adamk: I got "direct rendering: Yes"
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> Neozonz, see the bott message^^^^
[17:56] <neoark> ?
[17:56] <wilee-nilee> neoark, soory
[17:57] <TKing> how can i run grub.cfg file from "grub rescue >" prompt. The command ls  /boot/grub/ shows the file is there and configfile /boot/grub/grub.cfg doesnt work
[17:57] <adamk> orange__: Can you just run 'glxinfo | pastebinit' ?
[17:58] <orange__> adamk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5765475/
[17:58] <Crowler> TKing afaik you cant edit files at stage 1.5
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> TKing, Are you trying to just get to the desktop?
[17:59] <adamk> orange__: You are properly using the open source radeon driver. The fact that unity is not properly started is not related to your video drivers, as far as I can tell.
[17:59] <orange__> adamk: .-. I have no idea what else it could be then.. That was the last thing I was doing to my computer..
[18:00] <surjeet> hi to all
[18:00] <sere_> TKing: what are you trying to do, did you lose your grub?
[18:01] <dcope> will this work on ubuntu? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16880101008
[18:01] <dcope> i can't find any mentions anywhere
[18:02] <Neozonz> wilee-nilee, how can i modify that if the computer doesnt boot
[18:04] <jerry5> Hi. How can I modify Ubuntu to auto shutdown if the unlock screen password is incorrect?
[18:05] <rudolf_> sorry got dc
[18:05] <rudolf_> did anyone reply?
[18:05] <orange__> adamk: So do you have any advice how I can fix things
[18:05] <TKing> sere i lost my grub
[18:06] <melow01> {ubuntu 12.04 64-bit} I'm try to export ENV_VAR="/path/" and its not working
[18:06] <melow01> It should be in the .bashrc file, correct?
[18:06] <Crowler> rudolf_  <rudolf_> hi all
[18:06] <TKing> sere_ i lost my grub
[18:06] <Crowler> rudolf_  thats all we got
[18:07] <rudolf_> oh...sorry Crowler
[18:07] <rudolf_>  I am trying to use usb modem on my ubuntu. I searched many sites but couldnt find a way to connect. Is there any application for that?
[18:07] <rudolf_> Ubuntu is just not detecting the modem.
[18:07] <TKing> wilee-nilee, sere_, Crowler, bootable LIVEUSB doesnt work uefi problem so i cant boot from LiveUSB but i lost my grub and want to reload from usb or hdd to fix my grub
[18:08] <rudolf_> Some sites are asking to edit one file and some are asking to edit some others but none is working.
[18:08] <Crowler> rudolf_  you forgot to tell that modem name
[18:09] <adamk> orange__: You could try completely resetting your unity preferences: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[18:09] <rudolf_> Crowler, 'tis micromax 353G
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> TKing, Your best help is at the ubuntu forums qith uefi, find the bootrepair tool run a bootinfo summary and start a thread at the UF and post the url to that script.
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> *with
[18:11] <sere_> TKing: i dont know anything about uefi but i assume you mean this doesnt work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[18:11] <TKing> sere_ i dont have windows,
[18:11] <sere_> TKing: thats ok ..still same concept
[18:11] <Crowler> rudolf_  been there? http://askubuntu.com/questions/214398/how-to-set-up-micromax-353g-wireless-modem-in-12-10
[18:11] <TKing> i wish i can run grub.cfg from grub rescue
[18:12] <samuncle> a
[18:12] <TKing> sere_ if i can't boot CD then nothing can be done
[18:12] <TKing> sere_ cant boot cd or liveUSB
[18:13] <rudolf_> Crowler, yeah...I tried that
[18:13] <TKing> if it was grub2 i would have fixed it but grub with grub rescue> very limited commands
[18:13] <rudolf_> I should try once again with this. I think I forgot something.
[18:14] <sere_> TKing: oh i see..hmm
[18:15] <Crowler> rudolf_  where it failed?
[18:16] <rudolf_> Crowler, when I entered the command modprobe..... it gave a long list with some wierd name.
[18:17] <BluesKaj> TKing, have you tried installing grub from the live media to the /dev/sdX , most likely /dev/sda ?
[18:17] <Crowler> rudolf_  can you paste?
[18:17] <rudolf_> But still doesnt detect the modem.
[18:17] <rudolf_> yeah sure
[18:17] <TKing> BlueaKaj? how can i do that?
[18:18] <rudolf_> minute
[18:18] <jerry5> How can I modify Ubuntu to auto shutdown if the unlock screen password is incorrect?
[18:20] <rudolf_> Crowler, the list is so long that terminal isnt able to display it completely.
[18:20] <rudolf_> Can i pipe it to some text file?
[18:20] <BluesKaj> TKing, from your live-usb , sudo grub-install /dev/sdX , if you run fdisk -l in the terminal on the live-usb , you'll find the assigned device /dev/sdX
[18:21] <Crowler> rudolf_  command | out.txt
[18:21] <BluesKaj> TKing, X being a,b,c or whatever it lists as.
[18:21] <Crowler> rudolf_  or command > out.txt
[18:22] <rudolf_> yeah got it
[18:22] <TKing> BluesKaj all i see is grub rescue > i cant boot liveUSB
[18:26] <sere_> jerry5: is this the inital boot login screen or gnome-screensaver --lock?
[18:26] <rudolf_> The text file created is so huge... 1.1MB
[18:27] <rudolf_> pastie is taking so much time to upload the text. :|
[18:27] <jerry5> sere_, it's gnome-screensaver --lock
[18:27] <Crowler> rudolf_  looks like its not what we want, but anyway
[18:27] <TKing> BluesKaj i have loaded LiveUSB now how do i boot
[18:28] <TKing> with bootrepair
[18:28] <rudolf_> Crowler it shouldnt be this long?
[18:29] <rudolf_> it has some lines starting with blacklist
[18:29] <BluesKaj> TKing, is your machine set to boot from live media in the bios or uefi ?
[18:29] <rudolf_> blacklist snd_intel8x0m
[18:29] <rudolf_> blacklist snd_aw2
[18:29] <rudolf_> blacklist i2c_i801
[18:29] <rudolf_> blacklist prism54
[18:29] <rudolf_> blacklist bcm43xx
[18:29] <rudolf_> blacklist garmin_gps
[18:29] <FloodBot1> rudolf_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:30] <Crowler> rudolf_  unless you trying to cat /proc/mem, or debug something, you usually dont get megabytes of text
[18:30] <rudolf_> sorry
[18:30] <rudolf_> hmm...I tried that procedure twice but still the same result.
[18:31] <Crowler> rudolf_  maybe you have a typo in your "modprobe" line
[18:32] <rudolf_> is the command given on the site correct? I even tried pasting it.
[18:33] <rudolf_> Crowler, will there be a "\" after 1c9e??
[18:33] <rudolf_> see it.
[18:34] <Crowler> rudolf_  you have japanese keyboard?
[18:35] <rudolf_> In the post just below it, it is written that the above answer works on ubuntu 12.04 and I have ubuntu 13.04
[18:36] <Crowler> rudolf_  you can try. i highly doubt there are so many changes in usb stack between 12 and 13
[18:36] <Jeremiah_> Good day to all!
[18:37] <rudolf_> Crowler, no not japanese keyboard.
[18:37] <Jeremiah_> I am having a duel nooting issue.
[18:37] <Jeremiah_> duel
[18:37] <Jeremiah_> booting
[18:37] <studmeister> Hi everyone. I am trying to find out how to find the ip address for a specific url.
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | Jeremiah_
[18:38] <rudolf_> Crowler, is the command written there correct?
[18:38] <Jeremiah_> I originally had ubuntu, and decidedto get windows. So i did. Now i can no longer boot into ubuntu. how do i fix this issue?
[18:38] <llutz> studmeister: "dig hostname"
[18:38] <jerry5> How can I modify Ubuntu to auto shutdown if the unlock screen password is incorrect?
[18:38] <Crowler> rudolf_  so, what does correct modprobe line give out?
[18:39] <studmeister> Ok, thank you.
[18:39] <BluesKaj> !grub | Jeremiah_
[18:39] <rudolf_> Crowler I dont know which is correct...I tried removing "\" and still the same result.
[18:39] <Jeremiah_> lotuspsychje,  My issue is these tutorials explain how to do it when insatlling ubuntu second, not windows second....
[18:39] <Jeremiah_> that might help
[18:40] <Fenb> what's recommended open source or Proitory something?
[18:40] <BluesKaj> Jeremiah_, read above
[18:40] <Jeremiah_> BluesKaj,  K thanks. I'll look into that
[18:41] <sere_> jerry5: you might be able to do it with your .profile using some sort of if and then script.. kinda like this http://techblog.ribouxj.org/2010/01/27/password-protected-auto-login-on-ubuntu-auto-lock-screen-after-login/
[18:41] <adamk> Fenb: There is no simple answer to that question.  First, different people recommend different things...  Second, I don't think anyone here has any idea what you are actually talking about...
[18:41] <rudolf_> The commands in ubuntu are so complex and difficult to understand!!
[18:41] <bradley__> does anyone here have ubuntu server? im connected to a wireless netowrk but i cant get an ip address and google is no help
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> !bash | rudolf_
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> bradley__: you can try #ubuntu-server aswell
[18:42] <bradley__> thansks!
[18:42] <jerry5> sere_, TY
[18:43] <WeThePeople> hi
[18:44] <Fenb> adamk: i talking about everything? but just now im just corious if i should use flashplugin or gnash. Nvidia or Neuaveou something etc?
[18:44] <GGG> anyone use Unetbootin on a Mac to make a bootable Ubuntu USB?
[18:44] <sere_> jerry5: your welcome
[18:44] <WeThePeople> ggg, try ##mac or #mac
[18:45] <GGG> or better yet anyone know how to make a bootable USB for Ubuntu via a Mac?
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> GGG: you can download ubuntu livecd and make an usb from there maybe
[18:45] <adamk> Fenb: Use whatever works best to fill your needs.
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> Fenb: maybe you can specify your purpose more? or any package you looking for?
[18:46] <adamk> Fenb: It's not as if you can't try the options out there and find the one that is best for you.
[18:47] <ningu> I'm running ubuntu server, and I have some web apps that are stored in a home directory and run under that user. it would be nice if I could manage starting them up with an upstart or similar script in that user's home directory. any suggestions how that could be done?
[18:47] <ningu> I've been using this but it seems to have stopped working in upstart 1.8: http://pastebin.com/rk9u3Zhv
[18:47] <WeThePeople> ningu, #bash might be able to help also
[18:48] <ningu> WeThePeople: ok, but the issue is not how to write the startup script, it's how to get it triggered on boot without having to add a custom /etc/init/foo.conf
[18:48] <armin> any way to change virtual desktops with the mouse wheel on the desktop in unity?
[18:49] <ningu> WeThePeople: or rather, I'd like to add one that scans $HOME/.init like the one I linked to, so after that's installed I can just edit $HOME/.init/foo.conf :)
[18:49] <WeThePeople> ningu, have fun
[18:49] <WeThePeople> :)
[18:50] <Fenb> lotuspsychje: flash in general, and nvidia for general?
[18:50] <Crowler> rudolf_ the command itself looks ok, its just an init string for usb device. shoud work
[18:51] <Fenb> adamk: what's your opinion?
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> !poll | Fenb
[18:52] <rudolf_> hey Crowler you there?
[18:53] <Fenb> lotuspsychje: yea, but how do i know the features?
[18:53] <Crowler> rudolf_ the command itself looks ok, its just an init string for usb device. shoud work
[18:54] <rudolf_> Crowler yeah I got something. Wait...I am pasting.
[18:54] <Crowler> rudolf_ i found some guy with your modem and 13.04
[18:54] <rudolf_> It works?
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> Fenb: test them out for yourself, when you install ubuntu defaults workout fine mostly
[18:55] <Crowler> rudolf_ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2143158
[18:55] <rudolf_> Crowler, see this...got this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/5765640/
[18:55] <Crowler> rudolf_ usb_modeswitch dies with segfault
[18:56] <rudolf_> Crowler, I dont understand these keywords. :|
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> !info gnash | Fenb
[18:58] <rudolf_> Crowler, that guy has got the same laptop too.
[18:59] <rudolf_> What packages did he downgrade??
[19:00] <Crowler> rudolf_ he downgraded modeswitch to 12.04
[19:00] <Esokrates>  jeevanus: are you here with another nickname? I would be ready to help you
[19:00] <saram_> Hi, is it possible to install cinelerra (video editing software) on ubuntu 12.04?
[19:01] <Neozonz|Disc> is there anyway to set grub.conf to nomodeset by default when installing?
[19:02] <rudolf_> Crowler, how to downgrade the version? There is no such option in synaptics for that.
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Neozonz|Disc
[19:02] <OerHeks> Neozonz|Disc, nomodeset is an F6 option when starting the installer, there is no force to do so automaticly
[19:03] <Neozonz|Disc> OerHeks, but after installation does it retain the setting?
[19:03] <Neozonz|Disc> or must i do something again?
[19:03] <OerHeks> Neozonz, no, you need to alter grub to get nomodeset after install
[19:03] <OerHeks> see the url from lotuspsychje
[19:03] <Neozonz|Disc> im trying
[19:04] <Neozonz|Disc> but i can't get into shift grub editor
[19:04] <OerHeks> it is easy, hold stift @ boot, press 'e' to enter grub editor
[19:04] <Neozonz|Disc> it doesnt go to grub editor
[19:04] <Neozonz|Disc> when i hold shift
[19:04] <Neozonz|Disc> it just sits at stupid black screen with cursor blinking
[19:05] <Neozonz|Disc> making me want to smack the thing
[19:05] <Crowler> rudolf_ manually i guess. i dont have ubuntu or any linux at hand atm
[19:05] <rudolf_> okies
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: calm down mate, wich medium you trying to install from?
[19:05] <Neozonz|Disc> 13.04
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: usb?
[19:06] <Neozonz|Disc> yes
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: did you change bios properly?
[19:06] <Neozonz|Disc> change bios?
[19:06] <Neozonz|Disc> just copied dvd to usb
[19:07] <Neozonz|Disc> and made usb active
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: did you copy ubuntu livecd to an usb?
[19:07] <Neozonz|Disc> lotuspsychje, yes
[19:07] <Neozonz|Disc> the install dvd
[19:07] <Neozonz|Disc> ubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64
[19:08] <mmercer> lo all.  So, while realizing that 11.04 is EOL now, is there any way of getting to an archive repo of the last known packages so I can at least setup an internal mirror until we can upgrade our servers?
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: that wont work, you need to make an usb startup disk to an usb
[19:08] <Neozonz|Disc> lotuspsychje, it works fine for me? it installed? it boots up
[19:08] <DJones> mmercer: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/
[19:08] <Neozonz|Disc> i set the usb as active to make it boot...
[19:09] <DJones> mmercer: However that may just be iso's rather than a repo
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: so you ubuntu installed finished correctly, but you cant enter grub at startup?
[19:09] <Neozonz|Disc> yes
[19:09] <mmercer> DJones: unfortunately, yep.  ISOs only :|
[19:10] <Neozonz|Disc> ubuntu finished installing, asked me to reboot- I reboot and see a black screen with a blinking __
[19:10]  * mmercer *just* started this position and did not have a chance to deal with this as it popped up right before he got here.
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: you got other Os installed next to ubuntu?
[19:10] <Neozonz|Disc> yes
[19:10] <ripplebit> guys my sd reader isn't working. im getting these errors: http://pastebin.com/562FAHPt
[19:10] <Neozonz|Disc> on windows atm
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: wich windows version
[19:11] <mmercer> wonder what the chances are of finding a public mirror that hasnt closed down yet....
[19:11] <GGG> notice STEP 3       http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[19:11] <Neozonz|Disc> lotuspsychje, no not next to, this is a different machine
[19:11] <Neozonz|Disc> lotuspsychje, windows 8- this is a different machine
[19:11] <Neozonz|Disc> the ubuntu machine only has ubuntu installed
[19:11] <GGG> does that mean I should remove the .dmg ??? such obtuse directions
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: so ubuntu 13.04 single
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: your machine got newer hardware or rather old?
[19:12] <max2> I'm using Windows 8 and
[19:12] <Zwei> Hello, I've installed some xfonts, and it must have messed around with some settings. Now I cannot load acroread, I get this: http://codepad.org/1Twec8qk
[19:12] <Neozonz|Disc> 2-3 years old maybe
[19:12] <Neozonz|Disc> got 2 ati video cards
[19:13] <Zwei> I have tried to install all manners of gtk stuff, I really can't get it working.
[19:13] <max2> I'm using Widows 8 and I wanna boot a Ubuntu 13.04 from Virual Box
[19:13] <lukecarrier> Update git from a PPA -> get asked to reboot machine
[19:13] <max2> how do you get it to work?
[19:13] <ripplebit> guys my sd reader isn't working. im getting these errors: http://pastebin.com/562FAHPt
[19:13] <lukecarrier> Who on earth designed this pitiful excuse for an update manager?
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> Neozonz|Disc: well if you installed correctly single, it should work..
[19:14] <max2> Can I please get help
[19:14] <Neozonz|Disc> lotuspsychje, thx
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> max2: for windows help join ##windows
[19:14] <lukecarrier> max2, download VirtualBox, download a 32-bit Ubuntu Desktop image, follow the new VM instructions in VBox
[19:14] <max2> okat
[19:14] <max2> okay
[19:14] <max2> I'm gonna try thatg
[19:15] <elisa87> my ubuntu desktop is totally weird after rebooting ...icons are very big...do you know what's wrong?
[19:15] <ripplebit> guys can i please get help?
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> !patience | ripplebit
[19:15] <lukecarrier> but seriously, is the person responsible for Update Manager in here so I can educate them in how not to annoy power users?
[19:15] <Esokrates> ripplebit: you have a couple of file system corruptions, btw
[19:16] <ripplebit> didn't think you guys had seen, thanks
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> lukecarrier: this is a support channel mate, discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:16] <ripplebit> Esokrates: anything i can fix?
[19:16] <Esokrates> ripplebit: it seems your fs is mounted read only
[19:16] <Esokrates> ripplebit: can you save files on /sda2?
[19:17] <lukecarrier> lotuspsychje, it's on topic; or does Canonical no longer interface with the community it intends to profit from?
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> elisa87: what happened before your reboot, did you update stuff?
[19:17] <elisa87> I just did a normal rebot
[19:17] <DJones> lukecarrier: You said you've installed from a ppa, you'll probably have to contact the ppa maintainer about a problem with that, the update manager will only do whats been set up to do in the ppa
[19:17] <ripplebit> Esokrates: er not too sure... im new to linux, so you'll have to forgive my ignorance
[19:17] <ripplebit> how can i check?
[19:17] <lukecarrier> DJones, not the PPA's fault, I already checked the packages
[19:17] <elisa87> lotuspsychje: I don't know what I should do to bring it to previous setting ...even the fonts are much larger
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> elisa87: what ubuntu version?
[19:18] <elisa87> 12.04 lotuspsychje
[19:18] <lukecarrier> same as the moronic issue with partial upgrades screwing the update manager; the UX flow is hilariously poor
[19:18] <Esokrates> ripplebit: dmesg only says: [23293.036502] mmc1: error -110 whilst initialising SD card    ... this is not particularly useful to me
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> elisa87: maybe a failsafeX might recover graphics problems
[19:19] <ripplebit> what can i give you thats more useful?
[19:19] <elisa87> lotuspsychje: how should I do that? I can't browse web very properly ..
[19:19] <lotuspsychje> elisa87: reboot and hold shift at boot to enter grub, then try recoverymode
[19:20] <elisa87> what should I do in recovery mode?
[19:20] <elisa87> what should I do in recovery mode lotuspsychje
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> elisa87: try to reset your graphics
[19:21] <Esokrates> ripplebit: the sdcard issue is complex ... there could be so many reasons
[19:21] <elisa87> I have no access to browser so if you are aware of the commands let me know! lotuspsychje
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> elisa87: its graphical for you to choose from there, no worries
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> elisa87: you might wanna check your logs aswell to see whats happening
[19:23] <Logos01> Howdy folks. I'm running an LXC container to connect to my company's internal servers via VPN. Everything's fine there -- just have one complication: my container has a 10.0.3.x address... and that is preventing me from reaching the company's 10.0.3.0/24 subnet. I've googled but cannot seem to find instructions/insight on how to assign specific subnets to an lxc container.
[19:23] <Logos01> Anyone familiar with this, or can point me to docs?
[19:24] <Logos01> Oh -- Ubuntu 12.04 amd64
[19:24] <lotuspsychje> Logos01: maybe the guys from ##networking can help aswell
[19:25] <Logos01> lotuspsychje: I'm pretty sure this is specifically an lxc-configuration thing. Just need to know how to change the subnet lxc uses to assign addresses to containers.
[19:25] <Logos01> And that's often specific to the distro
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> !info lxc
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> never heard of them before :p
[19:25] <vfw> Logos01: That is a basic network problem, but the bottom line is that one or the other has to change.  I'm pretty sure that is the case.  You'll need to change the LAN's subnet, (or the other one, the destination).
[19:26] <Logos01> vfw: Yes, that's exactly right. And that's what I want to do.
[19:26] <Logos01> But I can't figure out how to do that for an lxc container on Ubuntu.
[19:26] <Esokrates> ripplebit: please post output of sudo fdisk -l
[19:26] <vfw> Logos01: That will be done on your router.
[19:26] <Logos01> No it will not.
[19:26] <vfw> Oh, lxc container... well yea,
[19:26] <Logos01> LXC is invisible to the router.
[19:27] <Logos01> (Well, it is in the default, NAT, configuration.)
[19:27] <Logos01> Was hoping someone was using LXC on Ubuntu here and could point me to the info/documentation I needed.
[19:27] <Logos01> Guess I should try #ubuntu-server
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> Logos01: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LXC
[19:28] <vfw> Not sure what to do with the LXC container. Maybe someone else can help. Yea, maybe #ubuntu-server
[19:28] <biax> Is it possible to setup ubuntu in legacy mode, setup the necessary UEFI partitions or whatever tahts necessary and then tell the bios to boot the hdd in UEFI mode?
[19:28] <mps-andruxa> называется поставил Линуху чё теперь да как никто не подскажет? а то я здесь впервые (
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | biax
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> !ru | mps-andruxa
[19:28] <Logos01> lotuspsychje: lotuspsychje I've been going over https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/lxc.html but it doesn't seem to have any info on my issue.
[19:29] <Logos01> Unfortunately /etc/init/lxc-net.conf is a non-existent file.
[19:30] <biax> so, its not possible then?
[19:31] <ripplebit> guys my laptop isn't reading my sd card, how can i fix this?
[19:31] <vfw> Logos01: Are you sure?  sudo find /etc/ -name lxc-net.conf -type f
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> ripplebit: did you try gparted to re-format your sd?
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> biax: try the url, got good info on uefi
[19:32] <mps-andruxa> есть кто из русских?
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> !ru | mps-andruxa
[19:32] <Logos01> vfw: It's an upstart job
[19:32] <Logos01> So it'd have to be in /etc/init/lxc-net.conf ... and it's considered an "optional" job at that.
[19:33] <Logos01> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/lxc.html
[19:33] <ripplebit> lotuspsychje: im not sure. i can't reformat because the SD isn't being read. this is the error that's being thrown: http://pastebin.com/562FAHPt
[19:33] <Logos01> That states that lxc defaults to the 10.0.3.0/24 but doesn't give info on changing that. <_<
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | ripplebit
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> ripplebit: if gparted cant see your sd, there might be another problem, but try it first
[19:35] <ripplebit> ah ok, ill check
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> Logos01: maybe this can help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/293275/what-is-lxc-and-how-to-get-started
[19:35] <Nvveen> Okay, I'm trying to replace Ubuntu's grub2 with Arch's, but Ubuntu keeps overwriting the data if I'm trying to reinstall the kernel images. How can I install these images without grub2?
[19:36] <GGG> okay I followed http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx  and made a bootable Ubuntu USB
[19:36] <vfw> Logos01: "Container networking in LXC is very flexible. It is triggered by the lxc.network.type configuration file entries. If no such entries exist, then the container will share the host's networking stack."
[19:36] <vfw> Logos01: Is that the case?  ^^^\
[19:36] <GGG> I started my PC laptop and choose the USB as the boot disk Ubuntu started to to run
[19:36] <GGG> and then the computer shut off
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> GGG: is that a mac laptop?
[19:37] <GGG> it won't boot with the USB and it won't boot with it out
[19:37] <GGG> no it's a PC laptop
[19:37] <GGG> Razor Blade
[19:37] <ripplebit> lotuspsychje: hmm okay, not too sure if it's listed
[19:37] <Xaro> Hey all
[19:37] <ripplebit> i dont think it is
[19:37] <GGG> now my laptop is bricked
[19:38] <vfw> Logos01: "lxc.network.ipv4 and lxc.network.ipv6 set the respective IP addresses, if those should be static."
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> GGG: did you change bios to startup usb first boot?
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> ripplebit: you can scroll drives at top of gparted, your sd dont show?
[19:38] <GGG> bios doesn't let me change the startup -- I have to press the f12 and choose it --- but now I can't even do that
[19:39] <ripplebit> lotuspsychje: ah ok, yeah its not showing. do i need to restart?
[19:39] <vfw> Logos01: What is the subnet range of the gateway router you are on?
[19:39] <ripplebit> i had to install gparted btw
[19:39] <Nvveen> In other words, how can I install the kernel images without also installing the removed grub package in Ubuntu?
[19:40] <tking> please anyone experiencing same? I have done sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-shopping and amazon search still shows up after turning it off in privacy. Ubuntu 13.04
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> ripplebit: if its not showing it might be your sdcard slot drivers not installed properly
[19:40] <GGG> what to do now?
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> ripplebit: did you check additional drivers section?
[19:40] <vfw> Logos01: What is the host's IP?
[19:41] <Logos01> vfw: So it turns out there's another place that needs to be modified besides /etc/init/lxc-net.conf
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> GGG: you cant enter bios anymore?
[19:41] <Logos01> /etc/defaults/lxc
[19:41] <DMA> Hello. How can I find out the date of installation on an Ubuntu Server?
[19:41] <Logos01> DMA: That's not entirely possible.
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> !server | DMA
[19:41] <ripplebit> i've looked at a few sites, apparently people have been having issues with the RTxx209 realteck driver or something. where is the official page to check?
[19:41] <Logos01> The best you can do is see the oldest logfile.
[19:42] <GGG> nope the machine powers up and then goes 'clink' and shuts off -- I can't get into bios
[19:42] <DMA> Logos01: which depends on log rotation settings, so is not for sure
[19:42] <guest_zehexx> how to see open port in my ubuntu using bash?
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> ripplebit: try software&updates last tab additional drivers
[19:42] <Logos01> DMA: Indeed.
[19:42] <Logos01> Why does the date of installation matter?
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> guest_zehexx: nmap yourself for open ports
[19:43] <GGG> anyone know what to do?
[19:43] <ripplebit> it says "no proprietary drivers are in use"
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> GGG: try ##hardware maybe these guys know
[19:44] <GGG> thanks
[19:44] <elisa87> what should I do if "Size 1024x768 not found in available modes"??? all the items are too large after rebooting ...failsafex failed also
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | elisa87
[19:44] <GGG> ##hardware channel won't let me send to channel
[19:44] <guest_zehexx> lotuspsychje sorry, i can not installed caused caused for download it my connection speed is low
[19:45] <guest_zehexx> nmap
[19:45] <guest_zehexx> but i have gufw.
[19:45]  * GGG wants to know what to do now
[19:45] <elisa87> lotuspsychje: cat: /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[19:45] <elisa87>  
[19:45] <ripplebit> lotuspsychje: it says "no proprietary drivers are in use"
[19:46] <mmercer> DJones: apparently old-releases does work as an actual repository, ty
[19:47] <thelamest> DMA: this could give you some idea maybe: find -type f -printf '%T+ %p\n' | sort | head -n 1000
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> GGG: if you cant enter bios, its a hardware fault, ubuntu support wont be able to help you further with this
[19:47] <DJones> mmercer: You're welcome, when I looked, I thought it was just iso's
[19:47] <mmercer> on the http side, it does look that way
[19:47] <mmercer> but just for s/gs i tested changing archive.ubuntu to old-releases in sources.list and sure enough, it worked
[19:48] <elisa87> Fatal server error:
[19:48] <elisa87> Server is already active for display 0
[19:48] <elisa87> 	If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[19:48] <elisa87> 	and start again.
[19:48] <FloodBot1> elisa87: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:48] <mmercer> a happy unexpected result
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> ripplebit: might check the vendors website indeed for sdcardslot drivers
[19:48] <GGG> so... the bootable Ubuntu USB borked the hardware?
[19:48]  * GGG is confused
[19:49] <rudolf_> hi guys
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> ripplebit: does the sd card worked on other Os?
[19:49] <rudolf_> Crowler you still there?
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> GGG: no ubuntu cant brick your laptop, what was default Os from laptop?
[19:49] <ripplebit> to be honest i've never tested it before, but i can only assume that it does
[19:49] <rudolf_> Well I finally got my usb modem working.
[19:49] <GGG> win 7
[19:49] <rudolf_> I am feeling good now. :)
[19:50] <rudolf_> Bluetooth is the last thing left.
[19:50] <rudolf_> Can anyone help me in fixing the bluetooth please?
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> GGG: you see POST booting msges?
[19:50] <rudolf_> It is not detectting any new devices.
[19:50] <newok> i'm try to use gufw
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> !ufw | newok
[19:51] <rudolf_> I try to search for new devices but it doesnt find any.
[19:52] <newok> there is, incoming and outgoing, how to setting to deny another computer copying our file?
[19:52] <newok> in gufw?
[19:53] <fdik_> Hi
[19:54] <ripplebit> lotuspsychje: this is what i need, but i don't know how to install it: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201106-8229/components/
[19:54]  * GGG dreped it was an ID10T error
[19:55]  * GGG plugged it in and it powers up -- VERY ODD timing on the USB boot and the battery to die
[19:55] <DMA> What happened to Logos0!
[19:55] <DMA> *Logos01?
[19:56] <newok> current,i'm just use browsing and chat, what are port that they use?
[19:57] <newok> browsing =  port?   ,chat = port ?
[19:57] <OerHeks> newok, freenode uses port 8001 in Xchat, in stead of the standard 6667
[19:58] <OerHeks> newok webchat uses port 80 i think
[19:59] <newok> oerheks,if i'm using xchat its mean it use 8001?,and is true (in gufw) if i'm deny all outgoing ,then i'm add allow for 8001??
[20:00] <OerHeks> newok yes
[20:01] <mmercer> whats the best guide for learning how to build packages on ubuntu ?
[20:02] <lotuspsychje> !build | mmercer
[20:02] <newok> oerheks thank you.   but if we browing using firefox, and i want to to add allow again in (guifw outgoing) ,what port that i must add for allow firefox ?
[20:03] <OerHeks> newok, as webchat uses port 80, you need nothing to do
[20:06] <newok> what port we must close to deny another computer access our file in disk?
[20:06] <newok> oerheks thxx.
[20:07] <newok> is that true if we close ftp port?
[20:07] <theadmin> newok: Uh, no other computer will be able to access your filesystem unless you have some file sharing service running
[20:07] <theadmin> newok: If you have an FTP daemon running, then it makes no sense to close the port. Simply shutdown the daemon.
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> i want to make a links2 startup icon, so it starts in terminal on a specific website, how would i create one like that?
[20:09] <mmercer> lotuspsychje: so i realize that we have a checkinstall method on fedora, but those generated packages are *not* treated as "reliable",  does ubuntu treat checkinstall builds differently (especially in ppas ) ?
[20:09] <mmercer> ie, if you put checkinstall .debs in a ppa, how reliable are they consisdered by the ubuntu community
[20:10] <DJones> mmercer: Pretty much the same, they're not considered suitable for uploading to a ppa
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> ie, ppa's are not (always) supported by the community
[20:10] <newok> theadmin thx.  but when i'm idle no do anything, why in system monitor-resources-network history in sending value is active??
[20:10] <DJones> mmercer: From https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall CheckInstall is not designed to produce packages suitable for distribution. Do not use it to produce packages intended for the Ubuntu archive or PPAs.
[20:11] <theadmin> newok: ...You need to read up how TCP/IP works, obviously some packets will be sent/received all the time just to keep the connection up for that matter
[20:11] <theadmin> newok: You can use netstat to determine if something strange's going on, but is highly unlikely. Ubuntu's quite secure.
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> mmercer  anyone could make any custom ppa, the community cannot suport all of them
[20:12] <theadmin> mmercer: Generally, not in the software center = not "reliable" as such. All depends on your trust. If you truly want your software to be recognized by the Ubuntu community, just upload it to developer.ubuntu.com -- those nice guys even do packaging and testing for you ;)
[20:13] <newok> theadmin ok,thx, i will try learning it,.
[20:13] <tgm4883> theadmin, I think that is only the case for software that is being sold for profit
[20:13] <mmercer> MonkeyDust: sure, but id imagine ubuntu isnt all that different from fedora or centos as regards to the repositories... there are plenty of us that contirbure to well known and "trusted" 3rd party repositories (they arent "official" channels, but they are still considered highly trustworthy, etc)
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> !dev > lotuspsychje
[20:14] <theadmin> tgm4883: Nay, they do any software, even free one. Open-source submissions should be done through PPAs, but even so they are still tested
[20:14] <tgm4883> theadmin, I had to package my own software, and it's still awaiting approval
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> mmercer  look at android phones, all the custom apps have corrupted the system, now people think the system is bad
[20:14] <theadmin> tgm4883: Hm, hamsters.
[20:14] <mmercer> like right now, the company im working for now uses 11.04, and the latest collectd i find in any of the repos for 11.04 is the official package of 4.2 which is *way* behind
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> mmercer: http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/
[20:15] <tgm4883> mmercer, there is no 3rd party repo I know of for Ubuntu
[20:15] <Nvveen> Does anyone know how I can install the linux kernel images without grub?
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | theadmin
[20:15] <theadmin> mmercer: 11.04 is way old itself :P It's not even supported anymore
[20:15] <theadmin> lotuspsychje: Um, thanks? :D
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> :p
[20:16] <tgm4883> theadmin, actually, no you can't do free applications anymore via d.u.c until they roll out the new upload process
[20:16] <mmercer> theadmin: i fully realize that, but it is what we have in place here, and i cant just randomly upgrade to 12 or 13 right now without knowing the risk to the systems
[20:16] <tgm4883> theadmin, "Thank you for submitting a gratis Free Software application through MyApps. At this time we are unable to process this request, as we are working on the implementation of a new app upload process."
[20:16] <tgm4883> theadmin, then it points you to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppDevUploadProcess
[20:16] <theadmin> tgm4883: Eh, just means you gotta wait :D
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: thats an interesting security topic to discuss
[20:17] <tgm4883> theadmin, my app has been in the queue for probably about a year now
[20:17] <theadmin> tgm4883: Eh. I really wouldn't worry, they are rolling so much new stuff out after all
[20:17] <theadmin> Phones, tablets, Mir, Unity rewrite...
[20:18] <tgm4883> theadmin, yea, that would be the problem
[20:18]  * lotuspsychje is gonna ask an ubuntu tablet to santa this year
[20:19] <skuft> 68.71.131.66 8888 cxipher:MiY_e5tu9EePhohS
[20:19]  * mmercer fails to translate lotuspsychje on that one...
[20:20] <mmercer> ask an ubuntu tablet santa?
[20:20] <dhci> what is the cmd to run in a console terminal so that a text mouse cursor appears and I can copy/paste?
[20:20] <lotuspsychje> !touch | mmercer
[20:20] <soee> hi, if i do rm -rf foo (where foo is symbolic link to folder) i see no erros or other message but link is not removed, any idea why ?
[20:20] <jerry5> How can I modify Ubuntu to auto shutdown if the unlock screen password is incorrect?
[20:20] <Nvveen> Does anyone know how I can install the linux kernel images without grub?
[20:20] <mmercer> soee: permissions by chance.  you can also attempt unlink foo
[20:21] <dhci> i think its gpm or gpm2 something close to that
[20:21] <soee> mmercer, also not working
[20:21] <mjuszczak> I don't understand
[20:21] <appamatto> Did anyone have trouble after the upgrade today?
[20:21] <mmercer> soee:  are you doing it as a regular user or as sudo ?
[20:21] <mjuszczak> apt-get autoremove is saying out of space.
[20:21] <appamatto> Now Unity won't start for me
[20:21] <mjuszczak> can I manually remove older files?
[20:21] <mjuszczak> boot is at 100%
[20:21] <appamatto> And my resolution is limited to 1024x768
[20:21] <soee> mmercer, its a shared hosting and im doing it as a account owner not sudo
[20:22] <mmercer> soee: ls -la foo <-- who owns the link ?
[20:22] <soee> what is strange 2 other links were removed
[20:22] <theadmin> appamatto: Was a kernel upgrade. Hold Shift during bootup and select the older kernel, see if it helps, if it does stay on that
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> appamatto: hmmm ive just had someone with same issue
[20:22] <soee> mmercer, the group and user is mine
[20:22] <appamatto> lotuspsychje: were they able to resolve it?
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> appamatto: <elisa87> what should I do if "Size 1024x768 not found in available modes"??? all the items are too large after rebooting ...failsafex failed also
[20:23] <lotuspsychje> appamatto: try what theadmin says :p
[20:23] <appamatto> ok
[20:24] <mmercer> soee: from here, your options are things like stracing the process to see whats causing issues, and (very slightly chance) that set -x could help with verbosing output issues too
[20:24] <rubs> wow, a lot of ubuntu users!
[20:24] <SD70ACe> Hey all, I'm having some video troubles with 12.04 and a Dell Optiplex GX620 ultra small form factor.
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> rubs: welcome to the most popular distro :p
[20:24] <SD70ACe> rubs: Yes, most popular distro
[20:25] <rubs> amazing to see a lot of ubuntu users! thank you!
[20:25] <nimbiotics> Hello everyone. To begin with, I Know nothing about audio production. I installed ubuntu studio 13.04 because  I need to produce some audios for a radio show and I must be able to make phone calls through GV and record these calls, as well as be able to play some audios to the other party. Can someone please guide me or point me in the right direction? TIA!
[20:27] <jerry5> rubs, yeah and it isn't even th emost popular linux dist
[20:27] <theadmin> jerry5: It is, technically, at least on the desktop
[20:28] <SD70ACe> probably not in the server market though
[20:28] <DJones> nimbiotics: I can't help with the problem, but you may also get help in the Ubuntu Studio channel, #ubuntustudio It might be a fairly quiet channel and could take a while for a response
[20:28] <jerry5> theadmin, according to some sources it's not the most popular desktop. mint is more popular now
[20:29] <MonkeyDust> jerry5  no, mint has the most hits in search engines, blogs etc, but is not the most used
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> jerry5: i bet there are more boxes running in the world then any distro
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu boxes that is
[20:29] <theadmin> jerry5: Eh, I strongly doubt it, considering Mint is a major annoyance and is quite buggy too, at least last I checked broke on me all the time
[20:29] <clcto> archlinux has prolly 1/10th the users of ubuntu, but just about as many in irc. now thats a community
[20:29] <jerry5> theadmin, valid points
[20:29] <nimbiotics> DJones: i'm also in that channel, but its been dead since this morning at least, nobody seems to awake
[20:30] <DJones> nimbiotics: ok, I thought it might have been a quiet channel
[20:30]  * tgm4883 reminds everyone to keep things on topic
[20:30] <theadmin> anyways, be right back
[20:30] <appamatto> Hmm, booted 3.8.0.25
[20:31] <appamatto> But that doesn't seem to help
[20:31] <ur0pl> hi
[20:31] <ur0pl> ubuntu does not automount my fat32  usb external drive
[20:31] <ur0pl> wtf
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> appamatto: did your update change your graphics driver perhaps?
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> !polite | ur0pl
[20:32] <appamatto> lotuspsychje: I'm trying to reinstall the nvidia driver
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> appamatto: good luck :p
[20:33] <nimbiotics> DJones: veeery quite indeed .. more than that, boring. Actually dead. I've beedn there since this morning and haven't received a single answer, except for a comment from someone who left immediately :)
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> ur0pl: did you try format your device with gparted?
[20:33] <ur0pl> oh
[20:33] <ur0pl> i see
[20:33] <ur0pl> fdisk -l doesn't even list the drive as being plugged in
[20:34] <tgm4883> ur0pl, what is the output of 'dmesg'
[20:35] <ur0pl> naturally, my usb cable was not plugged into the motherboard
[20:35] <ur0pl> anyeways
[20:35] <ur0pl> i was wondering
[20:35] <ur0pl> is there something  gui that can mount cifs window shares?
[20:35] <ur0pl> or even list the shares that have a different password
[20:36] <SD70ACe> Hey all, I'm having some video troubles with 12.04 and a Dell Optiplex GX620 ultra small form factor.
[20:36] <appamatto> I'm a little confused why X will start but Unity won't
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> appamatto: maybe your logs can clear your problem out?
[20:37] <BluesKaj> ur0pl, ntfs-3g installed
[20:37] <BluesKaj> ?
[20:37] <MojoPikon> SD70ACe: Can you be more specific? =)
[20:38] <SD70ACe> MojoPikon: The resolution won't go over 1024x768 with a DVI to VGA adapter.  Also any 3d apps like openarena fail.  Its got an Intel GMA950
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> appamatto: the girl who got same issue, had same trouble after a reboot
[20:39] <appamatto> Is there some other driver I could try?
[20:39] <appamatto> Right now installing nvidia-current complains about not finding the source
[20:40] <appamatto> Even thought the source package is installed...
[20:40] <mjuszczak> My boot is at 96%:
[20:40] <mjuszczak> /dev/sda1                    228M  206M   11M  96% /boot
[20:40] <mjuszczak> how can I free up space?  apt-get autoremove doesn't seem to want to do anything.
[20:40] <ur0pl> is there something to help browse what window shares i have?
[20:40] <ur0pl> on my other box
[20:41] <ur0pl> like the names of them
[20:41] <clcto> what is in /boot?
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> mjuszczak: ubuntu-wteak can do some nice system cleanings aswell
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> tweak
[20:41] <clcto> ur0pl: with cifs? idk, i guess samba works but not sure
[20:41] <MojoPikon> SD70ACe: I've used in my university some months ago the same computer with the same video hardware using a VGA monitor and it works flawless … And I think it used exactly that driver
[20:42] <MojoPikon> SD70ACe: at 1280x1024
[20:42] <bgardner> ur0pl: smbclient -L servername
[20:43] <SD70ACe> MojoPikon: I don't know, its just refusing to work right, I have it hooked up to a display that I used to run hooked to my ubuntu netbook and ran 1360x768, plus both open arena and openBVE won't run at all
[20:43] <appamatto> How can I switch to nouveau?
[20:43] <ur0pl> bgardner, thank you
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> appamatto: did you check software&updates in last tab additional drivers?
[20:44] <chuy_> hi all
[20:45] <appamatto> lotuspsychje: where is that?
[20:45] <clcto> o/
[20:45] <SD70ACe> MojoPikon: it won't drive the display past 1024x768, it only shows the generic VGA modes
[20:45] <appamatto> lotuspsychje: oh okay I found it
[20:45] <samgabbay> how do i make my ubuntu distro faster
[20:45] <mjuszczak> clcto: http://pastebin.com/2jbXr9uX
[20:46] <clcto> dont use pastebin.com
[20:46] <tgm4883> clcto, what is wrong with pastebin.com?
[20:46] <chuy_> i have problem whit lightdm,i installed webkit theme but show me this can't load directory /usr/share/lightdm/themes/pretty permission denied
[20:46] <clcto> mjuszczak: you have so many old kernels in there, get rid of them
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> samgabbay: install an ssd drive
[20:47] <MojoPikon> SD70ACe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/143151/12-04-is-not-detecting-onboard-intel-gma-950-need-to-install-driver-manually Seems like it needs some tweaking… may be the units on my university have a slightly different version of the chipset, or they manually added a driver package
[20:47] <mjuszczak> clcto: thanks.  I figured they'd auto remove.
[20:47] <mjuszczak> clcto: what's wrong with pastebin?
[20:48] <clcto> tgm4883: ads, captcha, adds whitespace, etc
[20:48] <clcto> gist.github.com is my go to, but ubuntu has its own
[20:48] <vfw> mjuszczak: Use apt-get to remove them...
[20:49] <tgm4883> clcto, I've not seen any evidence of it adding whitespace, everything else you mentioned isn't a reason tell someone not to use it
[20:49] <mjuszczak> thanks
[20:49] <clcto> !flood
[20:49] <mjuszczak> Gotcha, thank you,
[20:49] <vfw> mjuszczak: There is nothing wrong with pastebin
[20:49] <clcto> tgm4883: why when there are better options
[20:50] <thatguy37> Good evening #ubuntu
[20:50] <appamatto> lotuspsychje: I guess that didn't work
[20:50] <tgm4883> clcto, you haven't shown that there are better options.
[20:50] <bgardner> thatguy37: Hello
[20:50] <chuy_>  i have problem whit lightdm,i installed webkit theme but show me this can't load directory /usr/share/lightdm/themes/pretty permission denied anybody help me i really apreciate
[20:51] <clcto> tgm4883: i clearly said gist.github.com which allows annotating, and that ubuntu has their own
[20:51] <thatguy37> I am about to partition and format a new RAID5 array, and am not sure what to set my stride and stripe at. I gather that one should match my RAID striping, but what is the other?
[20:51] <appamatto> Should I have KMS enabled or disabled?
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> !raid | thatguy37
[20:52] <foutasse> bonsoir
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> !fr | foutasse
[20:53] <vfw> chuy_: ls -l /usr/share/lightdm/themes/pretty  #What does it say?
[20:54] <appamatto> Is there any way to get back to the original xorg settings?
[20:54] <joelwallis> Hi. The two-finger scrolling of my Dell Vostro isn't working. What can I do to get it working again?
[20:55] <clcto> synclient -h
[20:55] <joelwallis> I mean, it never worked with Ubuntu, but in Windows it works fine.
[20:55] <vfw> appamatto: What did you have before?
[20:56] <clcto> joelwallis: you can enable it with synclient TwoFingerVertScroll=1 or something like that
[20:56] <joelwallis> The Ubuntu 13.04's two-finger scrolling work fine in my other notebook, HP.
[20:56] <joelwallis> clcto: synclient is a CLI tool?
[20:56] <clcto> joelwallis: yes it is
[20:56] <Spr1ng> So very impressed by the simplicity of UFW :P
[20:56] <thatguy37> lotuspsychje: Thanks for the links, but they are all specific to RAID creation, I need help with filesystem layout
[20:57] <lkimmie> i'm a bit confused about ubuntu, does anyone have a link to a very simplified tutorial?
[20:57] <vfw> lkimmie: About _______________ ?
[20:57] <appamatto> How do I turn on KMS?
[20:57] <lotuspsychje> lkimmie: about what
[20:57] <appamatto> I think I disabled it for the nvidia blob
[20:57] <joelwallis> clcto: I got "Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?". How can I install the Synaptics?
[20:57] <ur0pl> how do i list what ips are connected in my lan?
[20:57] <joelwallis> lkimmie: what are you confused about?
[20:57] <clcto> lkimmie: what is confusing you, someone here can probably help
[20:58] <thatguy37> ur0pl: On your router configuration page, there is usually a way to see connected clients
[20:58] <clcto> joelwallis: not sure
[20:58] <ur0pl> okay
[20:58] <ur0pl> thanks
[20:58] <joelwallis> clcto: ok, thanks. ill search arround..
[20:58] <joelwallis> clcto++
[20:58] <thatguy37> ur0pl: if not, a program called nmap will work to show you hosts that allow ping requests
[20:58] <vfw> lkimmie: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[20:58] <lkimmie> starting a new internship, requires very basic knowledge about linux. my advisor told me to download ubuntu
[20:58] <lotuspsychje> lkimmie: there are also good Free ubuntu ebooks on the internet
[20:58] <melow01> Partitioning a new Ubuntu server and the default is "Use entire disk and setup LVM"
[20:59] <melow01> Is that the preferred config?
[20:59] <melow01> Or should I just choose "use entire disk"?
[20:59] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | melow01
[20:59] <genii> lkimmie: https://help.ubuntu.com/ is a good starting point.
[20:59] <SonikkuAmerica> melow01: If you wish to blow out the whole hard disk, yes.
[20:59] <joelwallis> lkimmie: ubuntu is a linux which is easy to use, everything works fine and you have all the goodies of using a linux operational system.
[20:59] <vfw> lkimmie: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[21:00] <melow01> SonikkuAmerica, true
[21:00] <joelwallis> forget about antivirus and shits of windows.
[21:00] <appamatto> does anyone know how to change the KMS settings?
[21:00] <SonikkuAmerica> !flavors | lkimmie, there are also other DEs you can get stock with Ubuntu
[21:00] <SD70ACe> if your hardware is supported -_-
[21:00] <SonikkuAmerica> lkimmie: There's also Ubuntu GNOME.
[21:00] <erwin> guys how can i remove the 3rd part application whichi sinstalled to opt directory
[21:00] <vfw> lkimmie: (I use xubuntu.)
[21:00] <vfw> erwin: apt-get
[21:01] <SonikkuAmerica> lkimmie: (I use Ubuntu GNOME.)
[21:01] <erwin> i installed it from *.run file
[21:01] <vfw> erwin: Oh...
[21:02] <erwin> i installed qt5.run
[21:02] <vfw> erwin: What did you install?
[21:02] <vfw> erwin: Why?
[21:02] <erwin> why not
[21:03] <erwin> i wanted to try it
[21:03] <MrSnat> Hi
[21:04] <vfw> erwin: Why not use the package management system?  (A rhetorical question...)
[21:04] <erwin> vfw, in package system only qt4 does exist
[21:05] <ur0pl> smbclient -L -U myusername 192.168.50.120 mypassword does ntow ork
[21:06] <SpaceManiac> does the Disk Usage Analyzer tool not report hidden files or anything like that?
[21:07] <vfw> erwin: Well, answering your original question is a bit difficult, (there is not a systematic approach to uninstalling software that is not installed via the package management system).
[21:11] <melow01> will Ubuntu Server have drivers installed for audio i/o?
[21:12] <erwin> vfw, i removed the whole directory in /opt
[21:12] <vfw> erwin: Ok, there you go....
[21:13] <erwin> i hope the run file did not install aything to other directories
[21:13] <erwin> if it did , it is almost impossible for me to trace the installed files
[21:15] <appamatto> Yeeeeeessss!! I is happy! nvidia driver now works. Now I need to figure out why Unity isn't starting
[21:15] <SD70ACe> appamatto: because it unity
[21:16] <vfw> appamatto: Do you have a Desktop Evnironment at all?
[21:17] <vfw> appamatto: ... If so, which one?
[21:20] <Norrin> what's with this pc & mac images?
[21:20] <Norrin> http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/
[21:20] <Norrin> why have this and say nothing about what the difference is in the page
[21:20] <Norrin> ?
[21:21] <zykotick9> Norrin: if YOU don't know if you have a mac or a pc.  i doubt any explanation on ubuntu site will help...
[21:21] <sam113101> is it gray?
[21:21] <Norrin> zykotick9, did i ask that?  i asked what the diff is in teh images
[21:21] <sam113101> can you open it?
[21:21] <mmercer> anyone happen to know what package provides -lkvm under ubuntu ?
[21:22]  * mmercer has tried to find libkvm via apt-cache, auto-apt, apt-file... and is failing
[21:22] <zykotick9> Norrin: one is for PCs, the other is for Macs...  ahhh, i'm not sure they can make that clearer...
[21:22] <Norrin> zykotick9, there has never been such a distinction before.  so why now?
[21:22] <Norrin> in short, what's teh difference?
[21:23] <vfw> Norrin: What do you mean?  There has always been a difference.
[21:23] <Norrin> never seen a mac ubuntu image before
[21:23] <MojoPikon> Norrin: Mac computers have special requirements for booting ISO images, so they add some tweaks for they to boot Ubuntu correctly.
[21:24] <Norrin> MojoPikon, it's meant to run on bare metal or something?
[21:24] <MystaMax> wow
[21:24] <Norrin> MojoPikon, any idea which is best for a vm?
[21:24] <vfw> Norrin: I do not think anyone understands what you are really trying to find out.  What exactly do you want to do?
[21:25] <Norrin> what. is. the. difference?
[21:25] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know winconn?
[21:25] <Norrin> "it says mac" is not sufficient
[21:25] <alanwevans> anyone ever run into a problem where resolvconf isn't updating /etc/resolv.conf on boot, but manually ifdown/ifup an interface updates it just fine
[21:25] <mojtaba> Is it the ultimate solution? or is there any better equivalent?
[21:25] <vfw> Norrin: You want to know what the differences between the Mac ISO and the PC ISO?
[21:25] <Norrin> given i always installed the basic image before no problems.   so why all of a sudden a mac image?
[21:26] <Norrin> vfw, yes
[21:26] <MojoPikon> norrin: For vm's, ubuntu jeos is a good option. It has a smaller footprint than standard ones. https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/jeos-and-vmbuilder.html
[21:26] <sam113101> I wish I had a mac
[21:26] <vfw> Norrin: Let us ask you this question:  Do you have a Mac or a PC (that you want to install Ubuntu on)?
[21:26] <Norrin> vfw, "on" is relative.  i'm installing in a vm on a mac host
[21:27] <Norrin> from what MojoPikon, sounds like this mac image is for bare metal
[21:27] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know winconn? Is it the ultimate solution? or is there any better equivalent?
[21:27] <Norrin> sure would be nice if it said all this on teh download page.....
[21:28] <Bauer> I once followed some tutorial to install Java 64bit from Sun and not OpenJDK, but how do I remove it? I wanna try normal java again
[21:28] <MojoPikon> norring: if you don't need the desktop, Ubuntu JeOS is better for vm's, as i've said. It is intended for virtual appliances.
[21:28] <Norrin> vfw, why a mac image.   if i know what's diff about it i can answer my own question
[21:28] <Norrin> hence i started with "what's different about it?"
[21:28] <vfw> Norrin: Simple: If you have a Mac, you use the Mac ISO.  If you have a PC, you use the regular PC ISO.  You have a Mac, so use the Mac ISO.
[21:28] <Norrin> vfw, there's nothing simple about that.  what's different in the image?
[21:29] <vfw> Norrin: There are a lot of differences, (not just one).
[21:29] <Norrin> notice,  i didn't ask which one to use.   what is teh difference?
[21:29] <MojoPikon> Norrin: Drivers. kernel parameters and EFI files. Things like that.
[21:29] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know winconn? Is it the ultimate solution? or is there any better equivalent?
[21:30] <Norrin> cool.  so i'm goign with the standard image.
[21:30] <Norrin> bare metal ish
[21:30] <Norrin> vfw, in the end, so "it's so simple" answer seems to have been wrong.  congratz
[21:30] <vfw> !mac | Norrin
[21:31] <MystaMax> Norrin: this link answers your question specifically: http://askubuntu.com/a/40480/859
[21:31] <jerry5> How can I modify Ubuntu to auto shutdown if the unlock screen password is incorrect?
[21:31] <zykotick9> Bauer: when you install out-of-repo software, you need to use whatever method 'that software' uses to remove... it's a bad idea in general to use out-of-repo stuff IMO
[21:31] <mojtaba> hello?
[21:32] <Nvveen> Can anyone tell me how to install the kernel images without installing grub2 (I removed it)?
[21:32] <Norrin> vfw from your own link: "try your VM's support area. Running Ubuntu in a VM is completely different than running Ubuntu "on your Mac". "
[21:32] <zykotick9> jerry5: that's a security hole you're asking to open?  i hope you can't!  (that would let non-admin users shut off a machine)
[21:32] <Norrin> my whole point, vfw
[21:32] <Norrin> vfw, and, nothing on that page about the mac vs the pc image
[21:32] <jerry5> zykotick9, no, i want to code screen lock to auto shutdown
[21:33] <jerry5> zykotick9, not looking for a way around Ubuntu, but to modify it
[21:33] <zykotick9> jerry5: ya, that that's bad....  cya.
[21:33] <Bauer> zykotick9: well I had no choice, I must get Junpier SSL-VPN working in Ubuntu 13.04 64 bit which is not trivial at all :( I still dont have it working
[21:33] <zykotick9> s/that that's/and that's/
[21:33] <appamatto> vfw, I have a unity-looking environment but without any of the panels
[21:33] <vfw> Norrin: Show me the link.
[21:33] <appamatto> So I assumed this means unity didn't start
[21:33] <appamatto> Is there a log I should look in?
[21:33] <vfw> appamatto: I use xfce
[21:33] <Norrin> [14:30:51] <vfw>	 !mac | Norrin
[21:33] <Norrin> [14:30:51] <ubottu>	 Norrin: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[21:33] <Norrin> vfw, ^
[21:34] <zykotick9> Bauer: well good luck with that... if it's not in ubuntu's repo, it's technically OT in #ubuntu... just sayin'
[21:34] <Nvveen> Anyone?
[21:35] <f47fuk> .dal.net
[21:35] <vfw> Norrin: Follow the appropriate download link.
[21:35] <Norrin> vfw, and, nothing on that page about the mac vs the pc image
[21:36] <Bauer>   zykotick9  which is why, I am asking how to get rid of everything from that OT repo, so that I can try the normal java again
[21:36] <Norrin> MystaMax, thanks!
[21:36] <vfw> Norrin: Well, I suppose they neglected to state the obvious.
[21:36] <Norrin> MojoPikon, thanks!
[21:36] <Norrin> vfw, if its so obvious why were you wrong?
[21:37] <zykotick9> Bauer1: you should be asking whoever you got that java from... but maybe someone here knows?  good luck.
[21:37] <vfw> Norrin: About?
[21:37] <MojoPikon> Norin: yw =)
[21:37] <Norrin> vfw, about the mac image being needed for macs in all situations
[21:37] <Norrin> no that fn simple
[21:37] <Bauer> zykotick9: well, it should be pretty standard procedure to remove 3rd party PPA stuff, no?
[21:38] <Norrin> like i assumed
[21:38] <MystaMax> Norrin: I'd just use the regular ubuntu image to install ubuntu inside a virtual machine. Only use the mac image on bare metal installs
[21:39] <Norrin> MystaMax, yeah that's what i'm going with
[21:39] <zykotick9> Bauer: if it was from a PPA use ppa-purge (or something very similarly named!)
[21:39] <zykotick9> !ppa-purge | Bauer
[21:41] <WILLdude> Hello. I've just installed ubuntu, after Windows 7. My PC just boots to windows 7 though. What can I do?
[21:41] <AndrewEagle> Hello
[21:41] <vfw> WILLdude:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[21:42] <AndrewEagle> WILLdude: try to reinstall grub
[21:42] <zykotick9> !ppa | Bauer pay particular attention to the warning here.  good luck man.
[21:42] <Bauer> thanks zykotick9 , but how do I find out the correct repository name?
[21:42] <WILLdude> I kinda wanted to use the W7 Bootloader, and AFAIK, it sh
[21:42] <zykotick9> Bauer: not 100% but check output of "apt-cache policy THEPACKAGENAME" perhaps?
[21:43] <daftykins> WILLdude: i heard once that you can edit the Windows bootloader to pass on to GRUB, maybe there's a guide online
[21:43] <vfw> WILLdude:  You can if you want to, but we only have ubuntu support here.
[21:43] <zykotick9> Bauer: didn't you say you used a .run file though, or it installed to /opt?
[21:43] <AndrewEagle> Have anyone compiled android from sources? I've just compiled and don't know how to launch it in emulator :-)
[21:44] <vfw> WILLdude: But it's easier to just use grub
[21:44] <WILLdude> Yeah.
[21:44] <daftykins> AndrewEagle: that's not support for Ubuntu i'm afraid.
[21:44] <Bauer> zykotick9:  is that right? 500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu/ raring/main amd64 Packages
[21:44] <zykotick9> Bauer: that would "make sense", but i can't really know....  no personal experience in this matter.
[21:45] <zykotick9> Bauer: i'd guess ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu/ is what ppa-purge is looking for?  just a guess though.
[21:46] <zykotick9> Bauer: if above fails, try just ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team
[21:47] <duelle> Hi there, I'm trying to set up my old notebook as a server (for testing purposes only). The only problem is that my wifi connection doesn't work. While installing it worked just fine, but now it seems to do nothing at all. I'm using a Intel abg3945 (iwl3945).
[21:47] <AndrewEagle> daftykins: what is not support? I've already compiled on Ubuntu. And ubuntu nicely support android develop and emulators. I just don't know what to do with 9GB output folder appeared after compilation :-)
[21:48] <vfw> duelle: WHat does iwconfig say?
[21:48] <rubs> you guys are the best!
[21:49] <duelle> vfw: Nothing at all -,- just displays mac, the rest is empty or zero..
[21:50] <vfw> duelle: Nothing at all?  Well, it shows the mac address, right?  Is it only one line of output?  (If not, how many?)
[21:50] <duelle> vfw: I just meant that there is no more information. The other lines are displayed, but theres no contetn (6 lines)
[21:51] <duelle> ok, in addition there is UP BROADCAST MULTICAST
[21:51] <daftykins> AndrewEagle: what i mean is, this channel isn't for helping you to use your computer, it's only for supporting Ubuntu users with Ubuntu problems
[21:51] <vfw> duelle: So what is the wifi device designated as?  wlan0  eth0 eth1 ....?
[21:51] <duelle> vfw: wlan0
[21:52] <Winogronko> test
[21:52] <genii> !test | Winogronko
[21:52] <vfw> duelle: iwlist wlan0 scan
[21:54] <AndrewEagle> daftykins: sure. I hoped someone know about that.
[21:54] <duelle> vfw: that works too, I can see my and several other APs. The point is, that it once worked fine (eg. while installing)
[21:54] <vfw> duelle: iwconfig wlan0 essid <essid-here> ; dhclient wlan0 or ifconfig wlan0 192.168.x.x ; route add default gw 192.168.x.x ; etc. etc.
[21:55] <vfw> duelle: In other words, set the essid and the other settings as per your LAN netowrk configuration
[21:56] <duelle> vfw: May it be a problem when the essid contains special characters (e.g. like the exclamation mark in "FRITZ!Box")?
[21:58] <vfw> duelle: Yea, use quotes
[21:59] <vfw> duelle: iwconfig with no arguments will show you the essid
[21:59] <Guest38463> hi all, need a help with touchpad mouse... just dont works
[21:59] <duelle> vfw: I just saw in /etc/network/interfaces that all these information are set there (netmask, gateway, wpa-ssid, wpa-psk). and iface wlan0 inet dhcp
[22:00] <Guest38463> seems to be something on evdev...
[22:05] <Guest38463> problem with touchpad and evdev here... please help
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> what's evdev?
[22:08] <duelle> vfw: Even after the install it sometimes worked and after rebooting no connection at all .. at first I thought that it was the installation of bind, cuz it worked after its uninstall. After reboot - same thing again. No connection at all:/
 vfw: Even after the install it some
[22:08] <BabyCat> hey folks, having ubuntu 12.04 networking problems. I've narrowed down to some really strange things having to do with the operating system itself..
[22:08] <BabyCat>  I use VPN, privoxy, browser plugins for security (no script and ghostery).. so I turn all this off and look to see what the problem is.. I get
[22:09] <vfw> duelle: What version of ubuntu do you have installed?  12.04?
[22:09] <Bauer> zykotick9: do you know where can I buy paid professional help getting the VPN working in Ubuntu? I really need it for work, and my time is more expensive... I know it is possible to set up, it has to be
[22:09] <duelle> vfw: 13.04 server
[22:10] <vfw> duelle: Is it completely updated?
[22:10] <daftykins> BabyCat: 'problem is.. get' ...?
[22:10] <BabyCat> hey folks, having ubuntu 12.04 networking problems. I've narrowed down to some really strange things having to do with the operating system itself..
[22:10] <BabyCat>  I use VPN, privoxy, browser plugins for security (no script and ghostery).. so I turn all this off and look to see what the problem is.. I get full internet until I do 1 of two things.. turn on any of my security.. or go to the site Eli the Computer Guy, and now facebook.. and the later2 knocks out the ubuntu 12.04 networking competely.. so I re-initalize the networking init.d thing, turn off the router then reconnect to get the internet back, then I have
[22:10] <BabyCat>  to do it again after a few minutes.. Ubuntu kicks me off the internet.. does this sound like anyone's problem? Everyone using windows and Macintosh around me are happy and loving their internet but I'm not..
[22:10] <duelle> vfw: yes, did an update when connection worked.
[22:10] <FloodBot1> BabyCat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:11] <BabyCat> sorry folks, internet connection's bad and I don't know whether it's working at any point..
[22:11] <BabyCat> or posting here.. not trying to flood
[22:12] <zykotick9> Bauer: no clue.
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> Bauer  http://www.ubuntu.com/support
[22:13] <vfw> duelle: lspci |grep ireless
[22:13] <vfw> duelle: (show us.)
[22:14] <daftykins> BabyCat: pastebin it instead or something. pasting an essay isn't going to work
[22:14] <G55321> hello guys! I wanted to upgrade my server to 12.04 from 10.04.4 and wanted to know if its safe
[22:14] <duelle> vfw: 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[22:14] <BabyCat> so key problem is I get internet connection for a few minutes then I have to turn off and on the connection to get it back and if I go to Eli the Computer Guy, the site that I'm trying to learn linux from, I end up having to restart the entire systm to get the internet back
[22:14] <BabyCat> and I have to do this over and over again to keep the connection
[22:14] <BabyCat> only difference, I moved.. but I updated the IP address on everything networking.. and it worked here fine for a few days and now this..
[22:14] <G55321> currently server is in production running a Samba file server
[22:14] <Bauer> MonkeyDust: it leades to http://www.ubuntu.com/management/features which is not quite the professional help I look for to get the VPN up and running...
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> G55321  it's safe, or it would be useless
[22:14] <daftykins> G55321: as safe as any upgrades in computing. back up and give it a try if you're sure you want to do it
[22:15] <MonkeyDust> Bauer  maybe contact Canonical, see below on the page
[22:15] <BabyCat> so key problem is I get internet connection for a few minutes then I have to turn off and on the connection to get it back and if I go to Eli the Computer Guy, the site that I'm trying to learn linux from, I end up having to restart the entire systm to get the internet back and I have to do this over and over again to keep the connection only difference, I moved.. but I updated the IP address on everything networking.. and it worked here fine for a few day
[22:15] <BabyCat> s and now this..
[22:16] <BabyCat> sorry again chat master, Ubuntu kicked me off again, not sure what went through..
[22:16] <G55321> oh yeah of course I have backup...but since its a file server I wouldn't want to restore a ~1tb backup :D
[22:16] <vfw> duelle: How many kernels do you have?
[22:16] <BabyCat> and of course, I lose response messages when Ubuntu loses the connection..
[22:16] <MonkeyDust> G55321  you can easily upgrade from LTS to LTS
[22:17] <duelle> vfw: not sure, but I think 2-3 should be there
[22:17] <daftykins> BabyCat: so you're typing from the affected PC?
[22:17] <BabyCat> I'm a ubuntu only on my box..
[22:17] <BabyCat> that's what I'm thinking
[22:17] <vfw> duelle: Try earlier one(s)
[22:17] <BabyCat> I keep getting viruses over and over again on this ubuntu.. I've wiped and reloaded 3 times over the last couple months
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> a virus in linux? how exciting!
[22:18] <BabyCat> yes I am
[22:18] <BabyCat> hmm.. U'd love this box.. ha ha ha
[22:18] <MonkeyDust> BabyCat  what makes you think you have a virus?
[22:19] <duelle> 3.8.(0).23 seems to work for now
[22:19] <BabyCat> reason I think it's a virus is because.. why does the networking get permanently harmed off a specific youtube (eli the computer guy) channel
[22:19] <daftykins> lol.
[22:20] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: oh you can totally have this one XD
[22:20] <MonkeyDust> BabyCat  i havent read anything anywhere about a virus, so it must be something else
[22:20] <BabyCat> otherwise, all I have to do is restart the router.. there's a Mac and Windows computers running here too.. everyone enjoying their computers but me
[22:20] <cheese1756> Has anyone had any success with installing Ubuntu on a Vaio Pro?
[22:20] <genii> Probably some horribly encoded video.
[22:20] <daftykins> cheese1756: didn't those only just get announced?
[22:20] <BabyCat> and also, everything worked fine with all my settings for 3 days here and suddenly stopped.. for no reason..
[22:20] <duelle> vfw: 3.8.0.23 works for now, but I am quite sceptic whether that is the point.. Sometimes it worked even with that kernel as far as i can remember
[22:20] <cheese1756> daftykins, Yes. Unfortunately, I can't find any documentation yet
[22:20] <cheese1756> But they're available
[22:20] <BabyCat> and it started with Eli the Computer Guy Youtube page
[22:21] <mmercer> BabyCat: have you watched the log messages to see whats going on when you lose your networking?
[22:21] <mmercer> have you watched your ethtool and miitool statistics?
[22:21] <mmercer> ( now granted, youre trying to learn linux, so its actually expected that you have no idea what im talking about ), but to jump to virus.... stop thinking youre on windows. ;)
[22:21] <daftykins> cheese1756: i'd imagine you'll come up against the usual Secure Boot UEFI issues?
[22:22] <cheese1756> daftykins, That's one issue I found, yes
[22:22] <cheese1756> I'm tempted to just flip it into legacy BIOS mode
[22:22] <EDocToor> I am backkkkkkkkk ,,,, hehe
[22:22] <daftykins> cheese1756: are you trying 13.04 ?
[22:22] <vfw> duelle: (I use LTS.)
[22:22] <cheese1756> daftykins, Yup
[22:23] <subman> When trying to upgrade, I'm getting the following errors:  http://pastebin.ca/2399035.  I've tried apt-get -f install to fix and it just spits out these same errors.  Is there a way to fix this?
[22:23] <daftykins> cheese1756: are you attempting a dualboot or just nuking - presumably windows 8 - off of there?
[22:23] <cheese1756> Still, I just get a blank screen after the "Try Ubuntu" and "Install Ubuntu" menu
[22:23] <cheese1756> daftykins, Preferably nuking Windows 8
[22:23] <daftykins> cheese1756: has that laptop got graphics by nvidia or ATI?
[22:23] <daftykins> s/ATI/AMD/ must get used to that renaming
[22:23] <cheese1756> daftykins, Nope, integrated Intel, which is a good sign
[22:23] <cheese1756> That's also what throws me off
[22:24] <daftykins> cheese1756: tried booting with 'nomodeset' for fun?
[22:24] <cheese1756> daftykins, I will
[22:24] <cheese1756> That's a good call
[22:24] <EDocToor> cheese1756, I also have a blank screen on one of my boxes after I installed standard Ubuntu.. I don't recall but.. I think I had to add noapic to the grub..
[22:24] <duelle> vfw: would you recommend to use a LTS server version? didn't know that there could be such problems (cuz it worked several versions before without any problems)?
[22:25] <EDocToor> somehow
[22:25] <vfw> yes
[22:25] <tylerehome> Is there any way to get pulseaudio to output to a digital output continuously? I'm playing via SP/DIF and it seems to be dropping the transport stream when nothing is using sound...which is annoying as it then takes several seconds for my receiver to realize there is sound again when I paly something
[22:25] <duelle> vfw: ok, thanks a lot for your help! Then I'll get a lts version and give it a try :)
[22:26] <MystaMax> duelle: what about booting off a live cd image of 13.04 (or 12.04) and seeing if its works there? you can test everything without messing anything up
[22:27] <cheese1756> Found a problem! "Secure boot forbids loading module" when running "help" in grub
[22:27] <daftykins> tylerehome: i've had that issue for years :( unless you had something playing silence in the background constantly i can't see any way
[22:28] <cheese1756> I thought the Ubuntu images were signed?
[22:28] <daftykins> cheese1756: oh so secure boot is somehow still enabled within your UEFI?
[22:28] <cheese1756> daftykins, I guess so. Time to fix that
[22:28] <daftykins> cheese1756: tbh every UEFI implementation is buggy as anything i've noticed at the moment. i had to update a friends laptop BIOS just to let it boot its' own Windows version in EFI mode to reinstall it ¬_¬
[22:28] <EDocToor> Is there a Whatsmyip command from the command line or do I have to grep ifconfig
[22:28] <daftykins> EDocToor: ifconfig *is* the whatsmyip command ;)
[22:29] <EDocToor> daftykins, ok.. just wondering thanks
[22:30] <cheese1756> The USB stick is being accessed far more. This is promising
[22:30] <daftykins> cheese1756: i'll cross my toes for ya
[22:30] <cheese1756> It's a load of BS that secureboot just fails silently, though, rather than giving a proper error for troubleshooting
[22:31] <cheese1756> daftykins, I appreciate that
[22:31] <daftykins> ^_^
[22:31] <daftykins> cheese1756: well, you'd have to boot without 'quiet' from the menu to get proper debug
[22:31] <cheese1756> daftykins, I usually disable the splash anyway. I might restart and do that
[22:32] <Magicarp> Is it possible to control the speed of a case fan via terminal? So I could put it at X RPM?
[22:34] <daftykins> Magicarp: is your system too old to run it automatically based on temperature?
[22:34] <cheese1756> So, I got all the way to conflicting drivers between an EFI version and a non-EFI version. I'll just flip things to legacy BIOS
[22:34] <cheese1756> Let's see how this goes
[22:35] <LeonIsNEw> okay so idk whatswrong with my new build
[22:35] <LeonIsNEw> all of my stuff is powering up but nothing is posting
[22:35] <LeonIsNEw> ubuntu does not even load and i dont even get a posting
[22:35] <cheese1756> LeonIsNEw, If there's no post, that doesn't sound like an Ubuntu problem
[22:35] <LeonIsNEw> yeaqh i know but
[22:36] <cheese1756> Check your hardware. Maybe something is not connected properly?
[22:36] <cheese1756> Is this your first build?
[22:36] <LeonIsNEw> \idk what i am suppose to do to make it post
[22:36] <LeonIsNEw> and yes
[22:36] <cheese1756> LeonIsNEw, Confirm that all components are plugged in properly. Often, a cable being unplugged can really screw things up
[22:37] <LeonIsNEw> i have everything plugged in right, all the fans turn on and the hdd spins and stuff
[22:37] <LeonIsNEw> and i dont know how to chck if they are in all the right way
[22:37] <Magicarp> Ask in #hardware
[22:37] <LeonIsNEw> everything powers up but, nothing posts
[22:38] <cheese1756> So, I flipped to BIOS boot and that still froze. If I'm debugging something, I'd rather debug UEFI. Onto fixing those issues.
[22:39] <daftykins> cheese1756: i know it's a ridiculous thought with such new hardware, but try looking on Sony's site for any BIOS updates anyway?
[22:39] <daftykins> LeonIsNEw: ok the best advice i can give you for your first build that doesn't POST, is to reduce the hardware down to the very bare essentials, you follow?
[22:40] <daftykins> LeonIsNEw: so you don't need any hard disks connected, no CD/DVD, just PSU into motherboard, CPU, RAM and graphics card if you have one. that's all
[22:40] <LeonIsNEw> i have no cd and no hdd
[22:40] <cheese1756> daftykins, I don't believe there are any yet. Boot sticks at "fb: conflictnig fb hw usage inteldrmfb vs EFI VGA - removing generic driver"
[22:40] <cheese1756> That's where it freezes
[22:41] <daftykins> cheese1756: hrmm, is that system using a Haswell CPU?
[22:41] <cheese1756> daftykins, Yup. Could it be a problem with the integrated graphics?
[22:42] <cheese1756> I think I need to set nomodeset
[22:42] <cheese1756> Let me see
[22:42] <daftykins> cheese1756: can't say i'm knowledgable in kernel quirks, but i wouldn't put it past there being a surprise. Sony's tend to be mighty quirky to get alternate OS's on to begin with. if you're absolutely committed to getting 13.04 on there, perhaps a text mode installer disc image would be worth a go
[22:42] <cheese1756> daftykins, Believe me, I'm committed :)
[22:43] <daftykins> hehehe
[22:45] <cheese1756> OK, so I set nomodeset and got farther, but still stuck at the SSD config. I think I need to set nolapic too
[22:45] <daftykins> worth a go
[22:46] <subman> When trying to upgrade, I'm getting the following errors:  http://pastebin.ca/2399035.  I've tried apt-get -f install to fix and it just spits out these same errors.  Is there a way to fix this?
[22:48] <MonkeyDust> subman  3.2... that's ubuntu 12.04 ?
[22:48] <subman> MonkeyDust, yes
[22:48] <subman> MonkeyDust, Server
[22:49] <MonkeyDust> subman  try dpkg -a --configure      and there's also #ubuntu-server
[22:49] <G55321> can anyone provide a one liner for backing up an entire ubuntu server to an external drive? not with dd because I want to keep my current files in there.
[22:49] <subman> MonkeyDust, Yes, I tried dpkg, same error.  I've tried asking in #server and other than the sound of crickets, no other responses
[22:50] <MonkeyDust> G55321  rsync -avv --progress [from] [to]
[22:50] <MonkeyDust> G55321  and -vv and --progress is just for fancy, not really needed
[22:51] <G55321> MonkeyDust: thanks...and how to exclude crap like /proc or /sys ?
[22:51] <MonkeyDust> G55321  with --exclude
[22:51] <G55321> comma separated?
[22:51] <MonkeyDust> nope
[22:51] <MonkeyDust> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/rsync
[22:51] <G55321> ty
[22:52] <OerHeks> G55321,  " tar cvpzf backup.tgz --exclude=/proc --exclude=/lost+found --exclude=/backup.tgz --exclude=/mnt --exclude=/sys / "  is a good start from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ForumWikiTeam/Sandbox/BackupAndRestoreYourSystem
[22:52] <cheese1756> Woohoo!
[22:52] <cheese1756> Setting nomodeset worked
[22:52] <cheese1756> I have a CLI
[22:53] <cheese1756> ls works
[22:54] <mmercer> ok, thats at least a start.  now to work on converting from checkinstall to a *real* .deb
[22:54] <MonkeyDust> cheese1756  now type sudo apt-get install sl;sl
[22:54] <ubuntub> hello everyone, i'm trying to get my touchpad to work but it doesn't my laptop model is "Toshiba A500 1GL", I can connect a wireless mouse in an instant, i tried unplugging the wireless mouse, disabling and enabling the touchpad through its personal button but no luck
[22:55] <daftykins> cheese1756: :) CLI? so no X at all?
[22:55] <digitalirony> so, I am trying to do an apt-get install
[22:55] <subman> MonkeyDust, I manged to find my own answer, thanks though!
[22:56] <digitalirony> and it keeps telling me E: The package surfer:i386 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[22:56] <digitalirony> is there a way I can force it to remove that package?
[22:56] <cheese1756> daftykins, No, I do want X, it just won't startup
[22:56] <MonkeyDust> subman  for future refernce: how did you do it?
[22:56] <daftykins> cheese1756: ah ok
[22:56] <cheese1756> It claims that /home/ubuntu/.Xauthority does not exist, yet it does
[22:56] <LUBUNTU-FAIL> Hi all
[22:56] <cheese1756> However, it is blank
[22:56] <LUBUNTU-FAIL> I have a BIG problem with UEFI installation
[22:56] <mmercer> is there an equivalent package to packaging-dev for natty?  seems that package wasnt available in that release
[22:56] <LUBUNTU-FAIL> and also one more question
[22:56] <MonkeyDust> uefi is a pain
[22:56] <subman> MonkeyDust, sudo dpkg --remove linux-generic-pae followed by sudo apt-get install linux-generic-pae
[22:56] <cheese1756> LUBUNTU-FAIL, Join the club
[22:57] <daftykins> LUBUNTU-FAIL: ask away on one line then
[22:57] <subman> MonkeyDust, then regular update and upgrade
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> subman  great!
[22:58] <ditchwindows> i'm really interested in ditching that lame microsoft windows junk and upgrade back to linux, which distro is ideal for gaming with wine and such, and skype?
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> !ot | ditchwindows
[22:59] <cheese1756> ditchwindows, Ubuntu works well for anything, really
[22:59] <daftykins> unless you have cheese1756's new laptop
[22:59] <daftykins> ;)
[22:59] <cheese1756> daftykins, I knew I was jumping into uncharted territory :P
[22:59] <daftykins> :D
[23:00] <daftykins> good fun that, though
[23:00] <daftykins> LUBUNTU-FAIL: are you still typing?
[23:00] <ditchwindows> cheese1756: yeah i find ubuntu pretty good, but i've had some suggestions with debian and/or chakra any thoughts between the three distros?
[23:01] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> HEY.. SWITCHED TO PIDGIN, WEBCHAT ON CHROMIUM WAS NOT WORKING WELL
[23:01] <cheese1756> ditchwindows, Unless you want something really stable, don't go with Debian. I've been tempted to play with Chakra before, but it's not for newbies
[23:01] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> ops sorry for caps lock
[23:01] <cheese1756> daftykins, It works!
[23:01] <cheese1756> Now to test driver support
[23:01] <daftykins> ditchwindows: nobody can tell you what is 'best' because there is no 'best'. just try something and see how it goes
[23:01] <cheese1756> I can already tell that wireless drivers will be fun...
[23:01] <ditchwindows> cheese1756: ahh alright, then ubuntu it is! - which version do you think is ideal
[23:01] <cheese1756> ditchwindows, Just go for 13.04
[23:01] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> my first question is> why the hell does ubuntu try to install GRUB before installing the system itself???
[23:01] <cheese1756> That should suit your needs
[23:02] <cheese1756> LUBUNTU-FAIL1, Because grub is required to boot anything
[23:02] <ditchwindows> cheese1756:  sounds good, thanks for the help!
[23:02] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> I mean, it never did it before
[23:02] <G55321> ditchwindows: Steam ONLY supports ubuntu, so there is your distro for gaming
[23:02] <G55321> steam works on most distros but ubuntu is the only one officially supported
[23:02] <ditchwindows> G55321: i dont use steam games but future proofing wouldn't hurt
[23:02] <cheese1756> daftykins, To say that touchscreen support is not great would be an understatement
[23:03] <bjrohan> A topic I don't know where to ask, so I will try here. Secnario one is using a laptop to browse the web,  check email etc.  Scenario 2 is using A remote desktop to do the same items on a server. Would using RDP use less bandwidth? My thoughts are that it would use less,. The email data etc is stored on theserver, and you are only seeing an image on th RDP. Is this correct thinking?
[23:03] <G55321> also some games are coming out with 100% ubuntu support, take bastion for example...you can even install it form the software center
[23:03] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> cheese1756: It is much smarter to install it after the system installation, for many reasons. Indeed, ubuntu always did this way, just as all the other distros
[23:04] <daftykins> cheese1756: hahaha
[23:04] <daftykins> LUBUNTU-FAIL1: the channel is for support, not for you to argue about how it should do things. do you have any real questions?
[23:04] <cheese1756> LUBUNTU-FAIL1, Oh, I thought you were new, but I can tell you know what you're talking about. Yeah, Gentoo also does grub install last, and Slackware does LILO. No idea why Ubuntu does it first
[23:04] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> but this time, with 13.04, something changed. or at least this is what I can see
[23:05] <tylerehome> daftykins: I think I might actually have found a solution. Edit /etc/pulseaudio/client.conf, and set autospawn to no, then when you launch your DE fire off pulseaudio --start....it seems to stay up, even when no sound is being played
[23:05] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> cheese1756: ubuntu always did it after * at least until 12.04, the last version that I tried before the 13.04
[23:05] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> anyway
[23:05] <Integrated> i'm trying to install xubuntu to my hp pavilion dv1000, but it's saying i dont have the PAE kernel. is my comp not able to handle xubuntu?
[23:05] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> i explain why I'm asking this
[23:05] <daftykins> tylerehome: interesting
[23:06] <daftykins> tylerehome: you might want to test that multiple programs can still play at once
[23:06] <mp19uy> Hi, Im trying to install dualboot (ubuntu & win8). I just finished installing ubuntu after windows but when I restarted it went straight to windows, no grub no nothing... Can you give me some advice to solve this?
[23:07] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> my grub installation {did at the beginning of lubuntu setup} failed. After just 30 seconds it started. This means that the system was still not installed
[23:07] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> now I would have tried to fix just the boot loader issue, If I just had the system installed
[23:07] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> but I don't
[23:08] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> anyway, the error message happened to other users before me
[23:08] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> as i googled much
[23:08] <daftykins> mp19uy: you can either look up a guide on how to edit the Windows bootloader to point to GRUB to boot Ubuntu, or look up GRUB to find out how to reinstall it and make things work
[23:08] <daftykins> !grub | mp19uy
[23:09] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1>  "Failed to install grub-efi to /target/ the system will not boot"
[23:10] <mp19uy> daftykins: Ok I will try to find something related to my problem there, thanks for the link.
[23:11] <daftykins> mp19uy: np
[23:11] <mmercer> if youre going to be hardcore gaming, your choices will come down to:  gentoo, arch, ubuntu, fedora <-- those are really the 4 ones that have the best chance for games
[23:12] <sere_> LUBUNTU-FAIL1: what is your actaul boot error or what happends.. why cant you repair grub?
[23:12] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> sere_: there is no boot error, cause grub hadn't been installed
[23:13] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> i wanna be precise.. i **THINK** that I cannot repair grub because of what I've already explained up here
[23:13] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> installation has been too short, the grub error came very early
[23:14] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> so I don't ***THINK*** that it's installed
[23:14] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> anyway, how do you suggest to fix it {supposing that lubuntu has been installed correctly}
[23:14] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> ?
[23:15] <sere_> LUBUNTU-FAIL1: during your install at the bottom did you pick mount point to install grub and then change it.. if there was no grub being installed, it should have let you know.. anything is possible though
[23:15] <LupusNoctis> Hmmm.  Anyone know of a guide with the common hangups/problems of running 13.04 desktop  inside VirutalBox?  It seems it installed properly, but all I get is a black screen w/ mouse pointer after logging on.  It shuts down properly, lets me enter password off C-A-D
[23:16] <daftykins> LupusNoctis: running an up to date virtualbox? did you enable graphics acceleration on the guest?
[23:17] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> sere_: I haven't understood what you wrote, sorry
[23:17] <LupusNoctis> It was downloaded today, 4.2.12,  and it says 2d accel for windows guests only, but I've tried with both 3d on and off
[23:18] <antibody> hey people. So when I have a video in fullscreen (nvidia-glx) either with totem or vlc I get the shadow of the top ubuntu desktop bar. (unity) how can I fix this?
[23:18] <antibody> I can't find the bug
[23:19] <melow01> I'm trying to get audio working on an Ubuntu Server and I installed ALSA, do I need pulse too?
[23:19] <gordonjcp> melow01: depends what you're trying to do
[23:20] <gordonjcp> melow01: pulse is great if you've got more than one app trying to play audio at once
[23:20] <melow01> gordonjcp, I'm trying to setup a streaming server to pull audio from a radio station via vlc and output the audio to the analog audio output
[23:20] <gordonjcp> melow01: then you probably don't need pulse
[23:20] <gordonjcp> keep it nice and simple
[23:21] <LupusNoctis> Hmm, I can even switch to terminal mode,  just the GUI/Desktop isn't displaying
[23:21] <daftykins> LupusNoctis: have you tried dropping to a TTY and fully updating the guest?
[23:21] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> wtf
[23:21] <melow01> gordonjcp, that's what I thought but VLC is giving me an error about dbus
[23:21] <melow01> gordonjcp, dbus-daemon
[23:21] <gordonjcp> melow01: that's something separate, I reckon
[23:22] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> LUBUNTU-WIN1: during the install I did manual partitioning. of course I chose the mount point for the root partition
[23:22] <melow01> gordonjcp, ok
[23:22] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> I don't understand what you mean with '' to install grub and then change it ''
[23:23] <LupusNoctis> daftykins: Fully updating?  the install purported to download and install updates.  Forgive me, it's been a while: what's the CLI commands for running full updates?
[23:23] <daftykins> LupusNoctis: fair enough, worth a go nonetheless 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[23:23] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> please, someone, help me
[23:25] <LupusNoctis> blerg.  0 counts  updated, seems to have all the latest.
[23:25] <LupusNoctis> perhaps I need to install the guest addons?
[23:26] <vfw> !grub | LUBUNTU-FAIL1
[23:26] <daftykins> LupusNoctis: have you looked up virtualbox and 13.04 issues?
[23:26] <SpaceManiac> Disk Usage Analyzer says my whole 120GB is full, but / is only taking 43GB - where's all that space gone?
[23:27] <LupusNoctis> hard to limit the results to just 13.04 :)
[23:27] <vfw> SpaceManiac: df
[23:27] <LUBUNTU-WIN1> LUBUNTU-FAIL1: when you installed lubuntu it should have giving you an option where you want to install grub /dev/bla /dev/bla1.. once when i chose a a destination to install grub and then changed it.. not sure what i did but grub wasnt being installed but it gave me an error letting me know this..
[23:29] <SpaceManiac> vfw: /dev/sda1 mounted on / is 100% full, so I guess it's not a mount issue?
[23:30] <vfw> SpaceManiac: What size is /dev/sda1?
[23:30] <SpaceManiac> vfw: 115217968 1K-blocks (~110G I think)
[23:31] <LUBUNTU-WIN1> LUBUNTU-FAIL1: vfw recommendations should fix your probablem but you mentioned your install was cut short.. if it didnt finish then i dont know
[23:31] <vfw> SpaceManiac: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[23:31] <vfw> SpaceManiac: Show us
[23:31] <LupusNoctis> There, giving the Guest Addon installs a try
[23:32] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> LUBUNTU-WIN1: well yes I'm able to choice whether to install it on a single partition {sdaX} or on the whole disk {sda}
[23:32] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> but there's no option to not install it
[23:33] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> sere ^
[23:33] <SpaceManiac> vfw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5766258/
[23:34] <subman> How can I clear up space on my /boot partition?
[23:34] <k1l> subman: delete old kernel packages
[23:35] <sere> LUBUNTU-FAIL1: thats what happend to me too.. i never chose not to install it but still got that error saying i did.. it was odd
[23:35] <subman> k1l, how to do that properly?
[23:35] <ThothCastel> is a reboot needed after installation of openssh-server ?
[23:36] <k1l> subman: look what kernels are in /boot . then remove the "linux-image-....." packages. but let at least one kernel in there :)
[23:36] <sere> LUBUNTU-FAIL1: either way you should be able to install / repair it, as long as your install completed
[23:37] <subman> k1l, but surely I cannot just delete them.....
[23:37] <k1l> subman: ?
[23:37] <daftykins> subman: pastebin 'ls /boot' and i'll show you how to clear up
[23:38] <k1l> subman: dont delete the files in that folder. use apt-get (or softwarecenter etc) to remove the packages
[23:38] <subman> k1l, like apt-get remove linux-image-x.x.x-xx-generic-pae, correct?
[23:39] <k1l> subman: yes, that is how you remove old kernels
[23:39] <subman> k1l, keeping in mind to retain the current kernel as shown in uname -r?
[23:39] <vfw> SpaceManiac: df | pastebinit #Show us URL
[23:39] <k1l> subman: yep :)
[23:40] <subman> k1l, got it, thanks.
[23:40] <SpaceManiac> vfw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5766284/ -- thanks for the help by the way
[23:41] <vfw> subman: uname -a   #Shows you the one you are using now.
[23:41] <vfw> SpaceManiac: So, how long since the install?
[23:42] <SpaceManiac> vfw: a long time
[23:42] <vfw> SpaceManiac: Do you have recordmydesktop installed?  (Or some similar app.?)
[23:42] <SpaceManiac> TeamViewer maybe, but I think it's out of date
[23:44] <vfw> SpaceManiac: Well, you just need to do some house cleaning. ls -ltrS    <will list by file sizes, largest last>   du |sort -n   <will show directories sorted by size>
[23:45] <vfw> SpaceManiac: If you are collecting audio or vidoe files, you might look in those directores for large files that may need to be placed elsewhere.
[23:45] <vfw> SpaceManiac: Maybe you are using streamripper or something like that?
[23:46] <SpaceManiac> vfw: not that I'm aware of
[23:47] <ThothCastel> what is NIS as compared to LDAP?
[23:47] <SpaceManiac> "sort: write failed: /tmp/sortUrBu9S: No space left on device" joy
[23:47] <vfw> SpaceManiac: Ok.  Just use the tools I mentioned above and look for large files you may not need any more.
[23:48] <Gamah> can anyone help a complete idiot (me) with some slightly advanced wget functions?
[23:48] <vfw> SpaceManiac: Free up some space and try again.
[23:48] <vfw> Gamah: Sure....
[23:48] <zykotick9> ThothCastel: i'm under the impression, NIS is old-school unix directory management system...  i've never used it, so i got no details.
[23:48] <daftykins> Gamah: type out the full question plz
[23:49] <ThothCastel> zykotick9: ok, thank you...  have you used an LDAP?
[23:49] <melow01> I'm trying to find the analog output of my system, is lsmod the correct command?
[23:49] <zykotick9> ThothCastel: no, but that's the new-school in comparison ;)
[23:50] <tylerehome> daftykins: multiple streams works fine...I have flash audio and Spotify going right now
[23:51] <Gamah> i have a bash script that consists of a few thousand lines that look like this: wget subdomainx.somewebsite.com/charstring.jpg to see if i can pull down any of these that are actually JPG's. (i've determined the method for generating them and the subdomains they are hosted at) but obviously a fair number of them aren't actually there... the server then gives me a 302 redirect to the home page and wget downloads the html of that page an
[23:51] <Gamah> i'd like to ignore and move on if there is no .jpg at the destination
[23:51] <zykotick9> ThothCastel: i've only ever used *nix on boxes i own, so i've never had a need for central user management in anyway (other then making sure my UIDs are the same across all boxes)  good luck.
[23:52] <daftykins> tylerehome: nice, where did you find that idea btw?
[23:52] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> I am trying a workaround vfw, sere. I am installing grub on ubuntuàs partition, so that the system is completely installed correctly
[23:52] <LUBUNTU-FAIL1> then i will think about mbr
[23:53] <ThothCastel> zykotick9: thanks :)
[23:53]  * Gamah paces inpatiently
[23:54] <Gamah> impatiently, even.
[23:55] <ThothCastel> I've just installed Openssh-server and rebooted. I am trying to connect using Putty but it is not going through. are there any extra configuration I must apply for it to work?
[23:55] <vfw> LUBUNTU-FAIL1: Cut to the chase, just install grub to mbr
[23:55] <daftykins> ThothCastel: nope, although you need to have the right IP :D
[23:56] <daftykins> Gamah: sounds pretty nefarious what you're up to
[23:56] <vfw> ThothCastel: You should not have needed to reboot.  Just make sure you are trying the right IP address.
[23:57] <Gamah> daftykins: i'm trying to convince a friend who is adamite that a 13 character random string is not the most secure solution to hosting his content which he deems as private.
[23:57] <vfw> ThothCastel: If you are on the same LAN [same network, same subnet IP range] it should work for you
[23:58] <elisa87> I was installing PCRE and I received this error. Can you please help me how to fix it? libtool: install: error: relink `libpcreposix.la' with the above command before installing it