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Guest45157hello03:37
Guest45157anybody there?03:37
gaurav__#kubuntu03:40
gaurav__#kubuntu..i need to know what has changed since kubuntu 12.10 and 13.0403:40
gaurav__#kubuntu i need to know what has changed since kubuntu 12.10 and 13.0403:42
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DarthFrogSo how come no-one pointed him to the Changelog?05:12
DarthFrogOr were we all (like me) busy on other windows?05:12
valorieI just got here05:12
goodtimehello05:12
DarthFrogWelcome, valorie05:12
valoriebut you would think he would have looked at kubuntu.org to see the diff05:12
goodtimemy flshplayer is all messed up looking05:13
goodtimehmmm05:13
valoriewell, I meant 'just got here tonight'05:13
valoriebut thanks, DarthFrog05:13
goodtimeits all blue and purple lol05:13
goodtimeany ideas05:14
valorieI actually started to answer, but the questioner had left already05:14
Unit193Tried to disable h/w accel?05:14
DarthFrogvalorie:  Frequently pointing someone to where they can find the answer is more valuable than giving them the answer.  And usually less work. :-)05:14
DarthFroggoodtime: I presume you tried restarting the app?05:15
goodtimehas anyone eles had this problem05:15
goodtimeive rebooted alot also05:15
goodtimeits weird looking when it plays05:15
DarthFroggoodtime:  That's a nuisance.  :-)05:15
DarthFrogSorry, I don't have an answer for you.  Nor have I experienced your issue.05:16
goodtimeyes its a differnt thing ive incounterd here05:17
DarthFrogAnyway, I'm off.  goodnight all.05:21
goodtimegood night DarthFrog05:25
valoriehey goodtime -- is this in FF, Chromium, or what?05:26
valorieand which version of kubuntu05:26
valorieI noticed a flash update yesterday or so, in 13.0405:26
* Unit193 thinks he can't be seen. :P05:26
valoriein 12.10 I had a lot of flash problems05:27
goodtimefirefox and rekong05:27
valorienon since upgrade05:27
goodtimeim running 12.04lts05:27
valorieha05:27
Unit193Ok, so I'll try again, did you try to disable hardware accel in flash?05:27
valorieso you might try chromium05:28
goodtimeno 13.04 sorry05:28
goodtimeok ill try it05:28
valorieI got really tired of FF and flash problems05:28
Unit193If you use chromium, you also have to download and setup PPAPI/pepper flash or it'll be the exact same version in firefox, no difference...05:28
goodtimeoh man05:29
valorieUnit193: I have not done that05:29
valorieand have no problems05:29
goodtimeill try to dl it and install pepper then05:29
Unit193Then you are still using NPAPI flash.05:29
valoriethat said, I haven't tried again in FF05:30
valorieUnit193: I have whatever is stock05:30
Unit193valorie: Chromium, not Google Chrome, right?05:30
valorieyes, that's what kubuntu offers05:31
Unit193goodtime: It isn't hard, I've even made a script that does it all for you. :P05:31
valoriewith FF I had to use flash aid05:31
valorieand it still sucked a bit05:31
goodtimewell thats coo but im not that advanced05:31
valoriethat's why I would rather use just what's offered05:32
valorieunfortunately, rekonq isn't quite there yet for me05:32
valorieand I 've been using FF from the beginning05:33
valoriebut it just hasn't kept up to Chromium IMO05:33
goodtimeheh i think 13.10 is out now05:34
valoriewell, it is in development05:35
Unit193It's October already? ;)05:35
valorieit will be "out" in October05:36
valoriesome of the devels are running it, but usually in VMs05:36
goodtimelol05:36
valorie6 month release cadence05:36
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Unit193Normal warning, this downloads something outside of the repos, and doesn't have any means of updating itself so could quickly become a security risk: http://unit193.tk/download-flash05:37
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goodtimedidnt work hmm05:45
valoriewhat didn't work?05:47
goodtimethe flash install in kate i just did05:48
goodtimeit didnt hurt anything either thank goodness05:49
valoriein kate?05:49
goodtimeyeah that sit Unit193 just spammed was a install that default installed in kate05:50
goodtimedidnt do a thing05:50
goodtimesite*05:50
Unit193Kate is a text editor...05:51
tsimpsonit may have opened the text file in kate, but it certainly didn't install in kate05:51
goodtimeright05:51
goodtimeok05:51
lorddeltaHi, how to reset the kwallet daemon? I tried, long and hard, to figure out how, but my kubuntu desktop is broken; had to login via other means. Basically I was getting a "no-agent" message.05:51
goodtimethats why it did nothing then lol05:51
goodtimeim kinda a noob05:51
goodtimekinda not05:51
goodtimeidk05:51
lorddeltaSomething in recent updates screwed with it I'm assuming05:51
lorddeltarunning 12.04.0205:51
goodtimeim running 13.04 i forgot im running one of my other desktops05:52
valoriegoodtime: you tried installing something you didn't understand?05:52
goodtimemy laptop is 12.04lts05:52
valorierather than installing a trusted kubuntu package?05:52
goodtimeyes i did valorie because i guess i trusted05:53
valoriesounds like a good way to mess up your computer, to me05:53
valorieI'm glad it didn't do so05:53
goodtimeso i install or tryed to fix something by asking in here05:53
valorieand I advised a package from the repositories05:53
goodtimeok05:53
valorieChromium-browser05:54
goodtimeyes05:54
goodtimei do have it installed05:54
goodtimebrb05:54
valorie!flash05:56
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash05:56
valorieheh05:56
lorddeltaWhat did goodtime do?05:56
lorddeltaIf anyone knows the dbus magiks that makes kwallet restart, or any relevant system config to check, would appreciate it.05:57
goodtime apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras didnt work either hmm05:58
lorddeltaOtherwise I'm stuck uninstalling/re-installing various kde libraries until something starts working again :P05:58
valorielorddelta: have you done some googling?05:59
goodtimewow this is kinda a headache05:59
lorddeltaIndeed. The googling on the error was rather unhelpful.05:59
valorieuninstalling/reinstalling random libraries sounds rather extreme05:59
lorddeltaYeah well.05:59
valorieI would ask in #kde as well05:59
lorddeltaNot having access to the internet to fix your problem is kinda extreme.05:59
valoriesure05:59
lorddeltaI can assure you I will continue random googling if I don't find the answer in this channel :P06:00
goodtimeok ty i do appreicate it lorddelta/ valorie06:01
valorieas I said, #kde and/or #kde-devel might be more helpful06:01
valorie!kwallet06:02
ubottukwallet is a subsystem that provides a convenient and secure way to manage all your passwords. More information is available at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/kwallet06:02
valorieinteresting06:02
lorddeltaQuite. I thought it was polkit that was going awry.06:02
lorddeltaBut I managed to (I think) eliminate the possibility while offline.06:02
lorddelta!polkit06:03
valorie~info polkit06:05
valoriefiddlesticks06:05
valorie!info polkit06:05
ubottuPackage polkit does not exist in raring06:05
lorddeltaO.o06:06
valorieummmm06:06
lorddelta'apt-cache search polkit'06:06
lorddeltaI assure you it exists06:06
lorddeltaCan you run cmd in here?06:06
lorddelta!apt-cache search polkit06:06
ubottulorddelta: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:06
lorddeltaNope06:06
IdleOne!search polkit06:08
ubottuFound:06:08
IdleOneapparently nothing06:08
lorddeltahttp://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/polkit/06:08
tsimpson!find polkit06:08
ubottuFound: gir1.2-polkit-1.0, libpolkit-agent-1-0, libpolkit-agent-1-dev, libpolkit-backend-1-0, libpolkit-backend-1-dev, libpolkit-gobject-1-0, libpolkit-gobject-1-dev, libpolkit-qt-1-1, libpolkit-qt-1-dev, lxpolkit (and 1 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=polkit&searchon=names&suite=raring&section=all06:08
IdleOnethank you tsimpson :)06:09
lorddeltaI guessed that it might have been responsible because the network settings panel couldn't speak to the "agent"06:09
lorddeltalol06:09
lorddeltaI sorta abandoned the prospect of figuring out what was going awry once I realized just how complicated dbus services are. X_X06:11
lorddeltaAt least till I had internet again.06:12
* lorddelta stops rambling06:12
zwhell everyone06:14
zwhow can i install the packages in live_cd06:15
valoriezw, you mean rather than downloading them from the repositories?06:17
zwyep06:18
zwvalorie: can you tell me how can06:20
valorieas I recall, as long as the cd/dvd/usb is still in the drive, it will be used first06:21
valoriewhy do you want to do it this way, zw?06:22
valorieexpensive connection?06:23
zwvalorie: the network is connected.i want to install "gdisk" ,apt-get install gdisk.but i don't know how to install. i boot ubuntu from live_cd06:24
valoriewhile you are booted, I don't think it can be used to install anything06:25
valorieunless you chroot in06:25
valorie!chroot06:25
ubottuA chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot06:25
valoriethat might help you06:25
zwok,i will try. thanks a lot!06:28
lorddeltaHmm, do services in a 32-bit chroot run on their own kernel or do they run on the real kernel?06:47
tsimpsonchroot doesn't change the kernel, only the root of the filesystem06:49
valoriethey run in the kernel from the live session06:49
valorieit's just a way to work on the new install06:49
valorieusually because there is a grub problem06:50
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rohdefI'm trying to make an rdp connection to a Windows Server 2012 using krdp, but after I've entered my credentials it simply stands there with blue background and very long horizontal and vertical scroll bars, as if trying to load something it can't, what can I do to fix that?08:38
IggyKooparohdef: you could try using rdesktop just to rule out if it's a configuration or application issue.08:41
rohdefIggyKoopa, will try08:42
rohdefIggyKoopa, it says: ERROR: recv: Connection reset by peer... I wonder if the server is down, but the behavior is exactly the same as when I confirmed it running08:47
rohdefIggyKoopa, nopes, server is running fine :/ just confirmed it from a VM08:49
rohdefoh: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7443267/what-version-of-rdp-is-used-in-windows-8/ oh bugger08:52
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Guest74979 hey I am getting these errors http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=P2Bg4dra even after heena@heena:~$ sudo apt-get build-dep kde4libs could you suggest something? LibAttica version installed is 0.4.108:56
Guest74979@murthy any help ? :P08:57
tsimpsonGuest74979: 0.4.1 is not greater or equal to 0.4.2, so you'd need a newer version to build whatever it is you're building09:01
Guest74979I know ..but how to upgrade it to newer version??09:01
tsimpsondownload it and compile it I suppose09:04
tsimpsonperhaps steel the package from saucy09:04
Guest74979@tsimpson I cloned it from git kde:attica then make ,But while make install I got errors CMake Error at lib/cmake_install.cmake:56 (FILE):   file INSTALL cannot copy file   "/home/heena/attica/build/lib/libattica.so.0.4.2" to   "/usr/local/lib/libattica.so.0.4.2". Call Stack (most recent call first):   cmake_install.cmake:37 (INCLUDE)   make: *** [install] Error 109:14
tsimpsonyou need sudo to install09:15
tsimpson"sudo make install"09:15
Guest74979oh yeah .. thanks09:19
martin__hi. Please help me with pulseaudio. I've great problems with skype. Echo on microphone input (headset) and the output is fixed to HDMI! I cannot change it to the headset!09:36
chrisircHi. Is there any relevant difference between installing kubuntu from scratch and "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" on plain Ubuntu?09:49
chrisirc(Other than the difference in amount of work/time/space)09:49
tsimpsonchrisirc: nope09:52
chrisircThanks. (It would be nice if that were mentioned on the kubuntu website somewhere.)10:44
tsimpson!kubuntu10:45
ubottuKubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces.  See http://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join  #kubuntu - See also !kde10:45
tsimpsonit was somewhere...10:45
tsimpson!kubuntu-desktop10:46
ubottuk/ed/x/l/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.10:46
tsimpsonwell it's the same for *buntu, if you install the ubuntu-desktop package in Kubuntu you get the same as a regular Ubuntu install + a regular Kubuntu install10:47
tsimpsonjust different default packages (for the GUI) sharing the same base packages for the system10:48
BluesKajHowdy all10:50
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Guest74979Hey I am getting  cmake error : Could NOT find XCB (missing: XCB_LIBRARIES XCB_INCLUDE_DIR)  Could you tell from where to install the latest version?11:39
BluesKajGuest74979, have you updated/upgraded lately ?11:43
Guest74979I think xcb is not installed isnt it?11:44
tsimpsonmake sure you have libx11-xcb-dev installed11:46
tsimpsonbuilding stuff generally requires -dev packages11:46
Guest74979sudp apt-get install libx11-xcb-dev shall help @tsimpson ?11:47
Guest74979*sudo11:47
tsimpsonit may11:47
tsimpsonxcb is a mess, but I'd expect it to help11:48
Guest74979naah still the same error11:48
tsimpsonyou should check the documentation or contact the author of the software and ask them what it requires11:50
tsimpson`apt-cache search "X C Binding"|grep -- -dev|wc -l` gives me 28 possible packages it could be asking for, who knows which it wants11:52
Esokratesjerry5: that would be insane12:25
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Esokratesjerry5: you could loose all your data, as all applications would get killed12:26
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xtrmkevorhi! is there a way to tell krunner which paths it should scan for programs / files ?12:30
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xtrmkevorhow can i change the keyboard layout for the login screen? its always us by default :/15:05
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deb_Hi,I want to know that I got some display problem in lightDM greeter ,so what to do now??Please help15:42
deb_anybody??15:47
duo_sorry for my english16:09
duo_Hi I'm putting together a kubuntu live, I need to know where is the configuration file for the default theme (I want oxigen) and the window decoration (want plastik)16:09
duo_I'm using UCK16:10
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caninwhat are the ssl settings for this server... v3 port...?16:51
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agriginiCIAO17:08
agriginiHO UN PROBLEMA CON WINE17:08
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vladimir_Anyone in the room?18:36
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linuxhow to make linux distro based on ubuntu?18:42
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canin261 users and 0 ops? lol19:30
cahir?19:31
caninno moderators19:32
Artakhacanin, there's always the almighty floodserv upon us :p19:38
BluesKajcanin, don't worry , we're being monitored :)19:39
caninI'm using Cinnamon and KDE... I wonder which has more users these days. A lot have moved to KDE from unity being lame, a lot went Cinnamon for the same reason.19:40
caninWe're all being spied upon :(19:40
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Orion__hi there19:48
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CoJaBoIs there a way to adjust pointer speed/sensitivity for the mouse seperately from touchpad? Currently, I have to manually change the settings whenever I switch between the two20:05
arminCoJaBo: probably only from the x config20:09
CoJaBohow do i do that?20:09
arminCoJaBo: and that's just a wild guess agai20:09
arminn20:09
arminCoJaBo: well this will get a bit of tinkering around, but to get you started, look at this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Frequently_used_options20:11
arminCoJaBo: so basically you create a file for the touchpad in xorg.conf.d and define some options with the "Option" keyword there.20:11
CoJaBoThe problem im having is that the pointer settings for the mouse seem to always apply to the touchpad20:12
arminthat's why i tell you to specify some the hard way one layer below this all, in xorg directly. :)20:13
arminso basically what you do is: set it so that you're comfortable with the mouse, and then adjust the values for the touchpad, in the file you created, like above.20:13
arminyou probably want the settings "MinSpeed", "MaxSpeed" and "AccelFactor".20:14
arminbe prepared for some tinkering around, killing your x-server, testing again, and so on.20:14
armindoes that make sense to you?20:14
arminCoJaBo: the good thing is that you only do this one time and then after re-installing your system the next time you can just use the settings from /etc again there.20:17
arminCoJaBo: sorry if you thought this would be easier, but that's a workaround that will definitely do the job.20:18
CoJaBoarmin: I actually have all those options from the GUI; if I adjust the mouse enough so its usable, there seems to be no way to tweak the settings so its usable20:20
CoJaBoThe problem is, the pointer speed is too fast by a factor of about 10; if I slow it down that much, and crank the touchpad speed up to try to compensate, it behaves very strangely20:20
arminCoJaBo: again, that's why i tell you to affect only one of both, specifically the touchpad, in xorg directly. :)20:21
arminCoJaBo: i know it might be counter-intuitive for you.20:22
CoJaBoThe touchpad doesn't obey only its own settings20:22
arminCoJaBo: well i told you a way that will work.20:22
CoJaBoAnd I dont see a way from that link to tell it to use a different setting for the pointer20:22
arminCoJaBo: in that config section you just affect the touchpad acceleration, not the mouse.20:23
CoJaBoI need to affect only the mouse.20:23
arminCoJaBo: if you drive with 100mph and a car with 120mph overtakes you, then it doesn't matter how much you slow down the time, you'll not be faster than the other.20:24
CoJaBo...?20:24
arminCoJaBo: as you can't affect the other car, but can accelerate and slow down your own one, you have a chance to adapt the speed of both.20:25
armincahir: well, the relation of both speeds.20:25
arminerr20:25
arminCoJaBo:20:25
arminCoJaBo: does that make sense?20:25
CoJaBoI tried slowing down the mouse; if I do that, I can get it to a usable state. From there, the touchpad is profoundly jerky if I speed it up.20:25
arminCoJaBo: basically you have 2 points where you can define speeds: 1) the GUI, where you affect both, and 2) the xorg config, where you only affect the pad.20:26
arminCoJaBo: yes, then the link is just what you need.20:26
CoJaBoWhat setting do I adjust to fix the jerkiness?20:26
arminprobably MaxSpeed and AccelFactor20:27
arminto get values to play around with, look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-230197.html20:27
arminpoint 520:27
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arminsorry, i'm not a native speaker, so i hope what i tell here makes some kind of sense to you.20:28
armin:)20:28
CoJaBoarmin: Both those, plus min speed, are exposed thru the GUI20:28
arminCoJaBo: it will be tinkering around anyways. play with those things.20:28
CoJaBoI have been, for quite a while; the faster it gets, the jerkier it gets20:29
arminyes, but only the pad, right?20:29
arminthen AccelFactor is what you need.20:29
arminand maybe MaxSpeed a bit20:29
arminbut i'd start with AccelFactor20:29
arminthink of it as: if there's a threshold you hit, then the pointer will be faster AccelFactor times, up to a value of MaxSpeed.20:30
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CoJaBoarmin: Indeed, its faster, but its jerky20:33
CoJaBoI cam move smothly in increments of about 40 px20:33
arminCoJaBo: mhhh, sounds like you still have to play around with it a bit.20:34
arminCoJaBo: i think this is very very stupid, too. i mean, that you're completely lost if you have 2 pointers, or even 3.20:34
CoJaBoSo theres no way to set seperate ppointer-acceleration per device?20:34
arminCoJaBo: that's just over-complicating user-interfaces.20:34
CoJaBoIs there at least a way to set pointer acceleration from command line?20:35
arminCoJaBo: i think the desktop developers (kde, unity and gnome, all of them) should give users a way to define that per device, each.20:35
arminCoJaBo: yes. try xset.20:35
arminCoJaBo: "xset m 4 4" for example.20:35
CoJaBoarmin: Thanks; hackish, but I guess its the best i can do..20:37
arminCoJaBo: at least you only have 2 pointing devices and not 3. with a thinkpad with trackpad, trackpoint and mouse attached via usb things get funny.20:37
armin:)20:38
arminwelcome20:38
CoJaBoIf its impossible with 2, it wouldn't be any more impossible with 3 :P20:38
armindepends on your interpretation of "impossibility". :)20:38
CoJaBoIm just going to set it to change the setting when the mouse is plugged in/unplugged >_>20:39
arminCoJaBo: probably the best you can do.20:39
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