[03:37] <Guest45157> hello
[03:37] <Guest45157> anybody there?
[03:40] <gaurav__> #kubuntu
[03:40] <gaurav__> #kubuntu..i need to know what has changed since kubuntu 12.10 and 13.04
[03:42] <gaurav__> #kubuntu i need to know what has changed since kubuntu 12.10 and 13.04
[05:12] <DarthFrog> So how come no-one pointed him to the Changelog?
[05:12] <DarthFrog> Or were we all (like me) busy on other windows?
[05:12] <valorie> I just got here
[05:12] <goodtime> hello
[05:12] <DarthFrog> Welcome, valorie
[05:12] <valorie> but you would think he would have looked at kubuntu.org to see the diff
[05:13] <goodtime> my flshplayer is all messed up looking
[05:13] <goodtime> hmmm
[05:13] <valorie> well, I meant 'just got here tonight'
[05:13] <valorie> but thanks, DarthFrog
[05:13] <goodtime> its all blue and purple lol
[05:14] <goodtime> any ideas
[05:14] <valorie> I actually started to answer, but the questioner had left already
[05:14] <Unit193> Tried to disable h/w accel?
[05:14] <DarthFrog> valorie:  Frequently pointing someone to where they can find the answer is more valuable than giving them the answer.  And usually less work. :-)
[05:15] <DarthFrog> goodtime: I presume you tried restarting the app?
[05:15] <goodtime> has anyone eles had this problem
[05:15] <goodtime> ive rebooted alot also
[05:15] <goodtime> its weird looking when it plays
[05:15] <DarthFrog> goodtime:  That's a nuisance.  :-)
[05:16] <DarthFrog> Sorry, I don't have an answer for you.  Nor have I experienced your issue.
[05:17] <goodtime> yes its a differnt thing ive incounterd here
[05:21] <DarthFrog> Anyway, I'm off.  goodnight all.
[05:25] <goodtime> good night DarthFrog
[05:26] <valorie> hey goodtime -- is this in FF, Chromium, or what?
[05:26] <valorie> and which version of kubuntu
[05:26] <valorie> I noticed a flash update yesterday or so, in 13.04
[05:26]  * Unit193 thinks he can't be seen. :P
[05:27] <valorie> in 12.10 I had a lot of flash problems
[05:27] <goodtime> firefox and rekong
[05:27] <valorie> non since upgrade
[05:27] <goodtime> im running 12.04lts
[05:27] <valorie> ha
[05:27] <Unit193> Ok, so I'll try again, did you try to disable hardware accel in flash?
[05:28] <valorie> so you might try chromium
[05:28] <goodtime> no 13.04 sorry
[05:28] <goodtime> ok ill try it
[05:28] <valorie> I got really tired of FF and flash problems
[05:28] <Unit193> If you use chromium, you also have to download and setup PPAPI/pepper flash or it'll be the exact same version in firefox, no difference...
[05:29] <goodtime> oh man
[05:29] <valorie> Unit193: I have not done that
[05:29] <valorie> and have no problems
[05:29] <goodtime> ill try to dl it and install pepper then
[05:29] <Unit193> Then you are still using NPAPI flash.
[05:30] <valorie> that said, I haven't tried again in FF
[05:30] <valorie> Unit193: I have whatever is stock
[05:30] <Unit193> valorie: Chromium, not Google Chrome, right?
[05:31] <valorie> yes, that's what kubuntu offers
[05:31] <Unit193> goodtime: It isn't hard, I've even made a script that does it all for you. :P
[05:31] <valorie> with FF I had to use flash aid
[05:31] <valorie> and it still sucked a bit
[05:31] <goodtime> well thats coo but im not that advanced
[05:32] <valorie> that's why I would rather use just what's offered
[05:32] <valorie> unfortunately, rekonq isn't quite there yet for me
[05:33] <valorie> and I 've been using FF from the beginning
[05:33] <valorie> but it just hasn't kept up to Chromium IMO
[05:34] <goodtime> heh i think 13.10 is out now
[05:35] <valorie> well, it is in development
[05:35] <Unit193> It's October already? ;)
[05:36] <valorie> it will be "out" in October
[05:36] <valorie> some of the devels are running it, but usually in VMs
[05:36] <goodtime> lol
[05:36] <valorie> 6 month release cadence
[05:37] <Unit193> Normal warning, this downloads something outside of the repos, and doesn't have any means of updating itself so could quickly become a security risk: http://unit193.tk/download-flash
[05:45] <goodtime> didnt work hmm
[05:47] <valorie> what didn't work?
[05:48] <goodtime> the flash install in kate i just did
[05:49] <goodtime> it didnt hurt anything either thank goodness
[05:49] <valorie> in kate?
[05:50] <goodtime> yeah that sit Unit193 just spammed was a install that default installed in kate
[05:50] <goodtime> didnt do a thing
[05:50] <goodtime> site*
[05:51] <Unit193> Kate is a text editor...
[05:51] <tsimpson> it may have opened the text file in kate, but it certainly didn't install in kate
[05:51] <goodtime> right
[05:51] <goodtime> ok
[05:51] <lorddelta> Hi, how to reset the kwallet daemon? I tried, long and hard, to figure out how, but my kubuntu desktop is broken; had to login via other means. Basically I was getting a "no-agent" message.
[05:51] <goodtime> thats why it did nothing then lol
[05:51] <goodtime> im kinda a noob
[05:51] <goodtime> kinda not
[05:51] <goodtime> idk
[05:51] <lorddelta> Something in recent updates screwed with it I'm assuming
[05:51] <lorddelta> running 12.04.02
[05:52] <goodtime> im running 13.04 i forgot im running one of my other desktops
[05:52] <valorie> goodtime: you tried installing something you didn't understand?
[05:52] <goodtime> my laptop is 12.04lts
[05:52] <valorie> rather than installing a trusted kubuntu package?
[05:53] <goodtime> yes i did valorie because i guess i trusted
[05:53] <valorie> sounds like a good way to mess up your computer, to me
[05:53] <valorie> I'm glad it didn't do so
[05:53] <goodtime> so i install or tryed to fix something by asking in here
[05:53] <valorie> and I advised a package from the repositories
[05:53] <goodtime> ok
[05:54] <valorie> Chromium-browser
[05:54] <goodtime> yes
[05:54] <goodtime> i do have it installed
[05:54] <goodtime> brb
[05:56] <valorie> !flash
[05:56] <valorie> heh
[05:56] <lorddelta> What did goodtime do?
[05:57] <lorddelta> If anyone knows the dbus magiks that makes kwallet restart, or any relevant system config to check, would appreciate it.
[05:58] <goodtime>  apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras didnt work either hmm
[05:58] <lorddelta> Otherwise I'm stuck uninstalling/re-installing various kde libraries until something starts working again :P
[05:59] <valorie> lorddelta: have you done some googling?
[05:59] <goodtime> wow this is kinda a headache
[05:59] <lorddelta> Indeed. The googling on the error was rather unhelpful.
[05:59] <valorie> uninstalling/reinstalling random libraries sounds rather extreme
[05:59] <lorddelta> Yeah well.
[05:59] <valorie> I would ask in #kde as well
[05:59] <lorddelta> Not having access to the internet to fix your problem is kinda extreme.
[05:59] <valorie> sure
[06:00] <lorddelta> I can assure you I will continue random googling if I don't find the answer in this channel :P
[06:01] <goodtime> ok ty i do appreicate it lorddelta/ valorie
[06:01] <valorie> as I said, #kde and/or #kde-devel might be more helpful
[06:02] <valorie> !kwallet
[06:02] <valorie> interesting
[06:02] <lorddelta> Quite. I thought it was polkit that was going awry.
[06:02] <lorddelta> But I managed to (I think) eliminate the possibility while offline.
[06:03] <lorddelta> !polkit
[06:05] <valorie> ~info polkit
[06:05] <valorie> fiddlesticks
[06:05] <valorie> !info polkit
[06:06] <lorddelta> O.o
[06:06] <valorie> ummmm
[06:06] <lorddelta> 'apt-cache search polkit'
[06:06] <lorddelta> I assure you it exists
[06:06] <lorddelta> Can you run cmd in here?
[06:06] <lorddelta> !apt-cache search polkit
[06:06] <lorddelta> Nope
[06:08] <IdleOne> !search polkit
[06:08] <IdleOne> apparently nothing
[06:08] <lorddelta> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/polkit/
[06:08] <tsimpson> !find polkit
[06:09] <IdleOne> thank you tsimpson :)
[06:09] <lorddelta> I guessed that it might have been responsible because the network settings panel couldn't speak to the "agent"
[06:09] <lorddelta> lol
[06:11] <lorddelta> I sorta abandoned the prospect of figuring out what was going awry once I realized just how complicated dbus services are. X_X
[06:12] <lorddelta> At least till I had internet again.
[06:12]  * lorddelta stops rambling
[06:14] <zw> hell everyone
[06:15] <zw> how can i install the packages in live_cd
[06:17] <valorie> zw, you mean rather than downloading them from the repositories?
[06:18] <zw> yep
[06:20] <zw> valorie: can you tell me how can
[06:21] <valorie> as I recall, as long as the cd/dvd/usb is still in the drive, it will be used first
[06:22] <valorie> why do you want to do it this way, zw?
[06:23] <valorie> expensive connection?
[06:24] <zw> valorie: the network is connected.i want to install "gdisk" ,apt-get install gdisk.but i don't know how to install. i boot ubuntu from live_cd
[06:25] <valorie> while you are booted, I don't think it can be used to install anything
[06:25] <valorie> unless you chroot in
[06:25] <valorie> !chroot
[06:25] <valorie> that might help you
[06:28] <zw> ok,i will try. thanks a lot!
[06:47] <lorddelta> Hmm, do services in a 32-bit chroot run on their own kernel or do they run on the real kernel?
[06:49] <tsimpson> chroot doesn't change the kernel, only the root of the filesystem
[06:49] <valorie> they run in the kernel from the live session
[06:49] <valorie> it's just a way to work on the new install
[06:50] <valorie> usually because there is a grub problem
[08:38] <rohdef> I'm trying to make an rdp connection to a Windows Server 2012 using krdp, but after I've entered my credentials it simply stands there with blue background and very long horizontal and vertical scroll bars, as if trying to load something it can't, what can I do to fix that?
[08:41] <IggyKoopa> rohdef: you could try using rdesktop just to rule out if it's a configuration or application issue.
[08:42] <rohdef> IggyKoopa, will try
[08:47] <rohdef> IggyKoopa, it says: ERROR: recv: Connection reset by peer... I wonder if the server is down, but the behavior is exactly the same as when I confirmed it running
[08:49] <rohdef> IggyKoopa, nopes, server is running fine :/ just confirmed it from a VM
[08:52] <rohdef> oh: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7443267/what-version-of-rdp-is-used-in-windows-8/ oh bugger
[08:56] <Guest74979>  hey I am getting these errors http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=P2Bg4dra even after heena@heena:~$ sudo apt-get build-dep kde4libs could you suggest something? LibAttica version installed is 0.4.1
[08:57] <Guest74979> @murthy any help ? :P
[09:01] <tsimpson> Guest74979: 0.4.1 is not greater or equal to 0.4.2, so you'd need a newer version to build whatever it is you're building
[09:01] <Guest74979> I know ..but how to upgrade it to newer version??
[09:04] <tsimpson> download it and compile it I suppose
[09:04] <tsimpson> perhaps steel the package from saucy
[09:14] <Guest74979> @tsimpson I cloned it from git kde:attica then make ,But while make install I got errors CMake Error at lib/cmake_install.cmake:56 (FILE):   file INSTALL cannot copy file   "/home/heena/attica/build/lib/libattica.so.0.4.2" to   "/usr/local/lib/libattica.so.0.4.2". Call Stack (most recent call first):   cmake_install.cmake:37 (INCLUDE)   make: *** [install] Error 1
[09:15] <tsimpson> you need sudo to install
[09:15] <tsimpson> "sudo make install"
[09:19] <Guest74979> oh yeah .. thanks
[09:36] <martin__> hi. Please help me with pulseaudio. I've great problems with skype. Echo on microphone input (headset) and the output is fixed to HDMI! I cannot change it to the headset!
[09:49] <chrisirc> Hi. Is there any relevant difference between installing kubuntu from scratch and "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" on plain Ubuntu?
[09:49] <chrisirc> (Other than the difference in amount of work/time/space)
[09:52] <tsimpson> chrisirc: nope
[10:44] <chrisirc> Thanks. (It would be nice if that were mentioned on the kubuntu website somewhere.)
[10:45] <tsimpson> !kubuntu
[10:45] <tsimpson> it was somewhere...
[10:46] <tsimpson> !kubuntu-desktop
[10:47] <tsimpson> well it's the same for *buntu, if you install the ubuntu-desktop package in Kubuntu you get the same as a regular Ubuntu install + a regular Kubuntu install
[10:48] <tsimpson> just different default packages (for the GUI) sharing the same base packages for the system
[10:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:39] <Guest74979> Hey I am getting  cmake error : Could NOT find XCB (missing: XCB_LIBRARIES XCB_INCLUDE_DIR)  Could you tell from where to install the latest version?
[11:43] <BluesKaj> Guest74979, have you updated/upgraded lately ?
[11:44] <Guest74979> I think xcb is not installed isnt it?
[11:46] <tsimpson> make sure you have libx11-xcb-dev installed
[11:46] <tsimpson> building stuff generally requires -dev packages
[11:47] <Guest74979> sudp apt-get install libx11-xcb-dev shall help @tsimpson ?
[11:47] <Guest74979> *sudo
[11:47] <tsimpson> it may
[11:48] <tsimpson> xcb is a mess, but I'd expect it to help
[11:48] <Guest74979> naah still the same error
[11:50] <tsimpson> you should check the documentation or contact the author of the software and ask them what it requires
[11:52] <tsimpson> `apt-cache search "X C Binding"|grep -- -dev|wc -l` gives me 28 possible packages it could be asking for, who knows which it wants
[12:25] <Esokrates> jerry5: that would be insane
[12:26] <Esokrates> jerry5: you could loose all your data, as all applications would get killed
[12:30] <xtrmkevor> hi! is there a way to tell krunner which paths it should scan for programs / files ?
[15:05] <xtrmkevor> how can i change the keyboard layout for the login screen? its always us by default :/
[15:42] <deb_> Hi,I want to know that I got some display problem in lightDM greeter ,so what to do now??Please help
[15:47] <deb_> anybody??
[16:09] <duo_> sorry for my english
[16:09] <duo_> Hi I'm putting together a kubuntu live, I need to know where is the configuration file for the default theme (I want oxigen) and the window decoration (want plastik)
[16:10] <duo_> I'm using UCK
[16:51] <canin> what are the ssl settings for this server... v3 port...?
[17:08] <agrigini> CIAO
[17:08] <agrigini> HO UN PROBLEMA CON WINE
[18:36] <vladimir_> Anyone in the room?
[18:42] <linux> how to make linux distro based on ubuntu?
[18:42] <linux> how to make linux distro based on ubuntu?
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[18:46] <OerHeks> pussy without patience it will be very tough
[18:47] <pussy> how to make?
[18:47] <pussy> from ubuntu remix
[18:47] <OerHeks> This is Kubuntu support, better ask in #ubuntu
[18:48] <pussy> how kubuntu is made?
[18:48] <OerHeks> ubuntu remix is not an oifficial derivate AFAIK
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[19:30] <canin> 261 users and 0 ops? lol
[19:31] <cahir> ?
[19:32] <canin> no moderators
[19:38] <Artakha> canin, there's always the almighty floodserv upon us :p
[19:39] <BluesKaj> canin, don't worry , we're being monitored :)
[19:40] <canin> I'm using Cinnamon and KDE... I wonder which has more users these days. A lot have moved to KDE from unity being lame, a lot went Cinnamon for the same reason.
[19:40] <canin> We're all being spied upon :(
[19:48] <Orion__> ssf
[19:48] <Orion__> hi there
[20:05] <CoJaBo> Is there a way to adjust pointer speed/sensitivity for the mouse seperately from touchpad? Currently, I have to manually change the settings whenever I switch between the two
[20:09] <armin> CoJaBo: probably only from the x config
[20:09] <CoJaBo> how do i do that?
[20:09] <armin> CoJaBo: and that's just a wild guess agai
[20:09] <armin> n
[20:11] <armin> CoJaBo: well this will get a bit of tinkering around, but to get you started, look at this: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Frequently_used_options
[20:11] <armin> CoJaBo: so basically you create a file for the touchpad in xorg.conf.d and define some options with the "Option" keyword there.
[20:12] <CoJaBo> The problem im having is that the pointer settings for the mouse seem to always apply to the touchpad
[20:13] <armin> that's why i tell you to specify some the hard way one layer below this all, in xorg directly. :)
[20:13] <armin> so basically what you do is: set it so that you're comfortable with the mouse, and then adjust the values for the touchpad, in the file you created, like above.
[20:14] <armin> you probably want the settings "MinSpeed", "MaxSpeed" and "AccelFactor".
[20:14] <armin> be prepared for some tinkering around, killing your x-server, testing again, and so on.
[20:14] <armin> does that make sense to you?
[20:17] <armin> CoJaBo: the good thing is that you only do this one time and then after re-installing your system the next time you can just use the settings from /etc again there.
[20:18] <armin> CoJaBo: sorry if you thought this would be easier, but that's a workaround that will definitely do the job.
[20:20] <CoJaBo> armin: I actually have all those options from the GUI; if I adjust the mouse enough so its usable, there seems to be no way to tweak the settings so its usable
[20:20] <CoJaBo> The problem is, the pointer speed is too fast by a factor of about 10; if I slow it down that much, and crank the touchpad speed up to try to compensate, it behaves very strangely
[20:21] <armin> CoJaBo: again, that's why i tell you to affect only one of both, specifically the touchpad, in xorg directly. :)
[20:22] <armin> CoJaBo: i know it might be counter-intuitive for you.
[20:22] <CoJaBo> The touchpad doesn't obey only its own settings
[20:22] <armin> CoJaBo: well i told you a way that will work.
[20:22] <CoJaBo> And I dont see a way from that link to tell it to use a different setting for the pointer
[20:23] <armin> CoJaBo: in that config section you just affect the touchpad acceleration, not the mouse.
[20:23] <CoJaBo> I need to affect only the mouse.
[20:24] <armin> CoJaBo: if you drive with 100mph and a car with 120mph overtakes you, then it doesn't matter how much you slow down the time, you'll not be faster than the other.
[20:24] <CoJaBo> ...?
[20:25] <armin> CoJaBo: as you can't affect the other car, but can accelerate and slow down your own one, you have a chance to adapt the speed of both.
[20:25] <armin> cahir: well, the relation of both speeds.
[20:25] <armin> err
[20:25] <armin> CoJaBo:
[20:25] <armin> CoJaBo: does that make sense?
[20:25] <CoJaBo> I tried slowing down the mouse; if I do that, I can get it to a usable state. From there, the touchpad is profoundly jerky if I speed it up.
[20:26] <armin> CoJaBo: basically you have 2 points where you can define speeds: 1) the GUI, where you affect both, and 2) the xorg config, where you only affect the pad.
[20:26] <armin> CoJaBo: yes, then the link is just what you need.
[20:26] <CoJaBo> What setting do I adjust to fix the jerkiness?
[20:27] <armin> probably MaxSpeed and AccelFactor
[20:27] <armin> to get values to play around with, look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-230197.html
[20:27] <armin> point 5
[20:28] <armin> sorry, i'm not a native speaker, so i hope what i tell here makes some kind of sense to you.
[20:28] <armin> :)
[20:28] <CoJaBo> armin: Both those, plus min speed, are exposed thru the GUI
[20:28] <armin> CoJaBo: it will be tinkering around anyways. play with those things.
[20:29] <CoJaBo> I have been, for quite a while; the faster it gets, the jerkier it gets
[20:29] <armin> yes, but only the pad, right?
[20:29] <armin> then AccelFactor is what you need.
[20:29] <armin> and maybe MaxSpeed a bit
[20:29] <armin> but i'd start with AccelFactor
[20:30] <armin> think of it as: if there's a threshold you hit, then the pointer will be faster AccelFactor times, up to a value of MaxSpeed.
[20:33] <CoJaBo> armin: Indeed, its faster, but its jerky
[20:33] <CoJaBo> I cam move smothly in increments of about 40 px
[20:34] <armin> CoJaBo: mhhh, sounds like you still have to play around with it a bit.
[20:34] <armin> CoJaBo: i think this is very very stupid, too. i mean, that you're completely lost if you have 2 pointers, or even 3.
[20:34] <CoJaBo> So theres no way to set seperate ppointer-acceleration per device?
[20:34] <armin> CoJaBo: that's just over-complicating user-interfaces.
[20:35] <CoJaBo> Is there at least a way to set pointer acceleration from command line?
[20:35] <armin> CoJaBo: i think the desktop developers (kde, unity and gnome, all of them) should give users a way to define that per device, each.
[20:35] <armin> CoJaBo: yes. try xset.
[20:35] <armin> CoJaBo: "xset m 4 4" for example.
[20:37] <CoJaBo> armin: Thanks; hackish, but I guess its the best i can do..
[20:37] <armin> CoJaBo: at least you only have 2 pointing devices and not 3. with a thinkpad with trackpad, trackpoint and mouse attached via usb things get funny.
[20:38] <armin> :)
[20:38] <armin> welcome
[20:38] <CoJaBo> If its impossible with 2, it wouldn't be any more impossible with 3 :P
[20:38] <armin> depends on your interpretation of "impossibility". :)
[20:39] <CoJaBo> Im just going to set it to change the setting when the mouse is plugged in/unplugged >_>
[20:39] <armin> CoJaBo: probably the best you can do.
[21:00] <woutor> join #ZorinOS
[21:00] <woutor> Sorry.