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popeyGood morning08:37
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bigcalmGood morning peeps08:47
MartijnVdS\o08:47
bigcalmHow are you today MartijnVdS?08:50
MartijnVdS\o/ weekend :)08:51
MartijnVdSabout to add a drop of solder to my car usb charger08:52
bigcalmIndeed, best time of the week08:52
MartijnVdS(so my phone recognises it as a proper charger instead of an USB port)08:52
bigcalmPoor design08:52
MartijnVdSbigcalm: most car chargers are for Apple stuff08:53
bigcalm:(08:53
MartijnVdSbigcalm: and they use a non-standard way of detecting "more than 500mA" capability08:53
MartijnVdShttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=190690108:53
bigcalmIt's so that you have to buy their stuff08:54
MartijnVdSwell, http://www.hackerbotlabs.com/2013/02/modding-a-usb-car-charger-for-faster-charging/ really08:54
popeyi thought it was because they did it before others08:54
MartijnVdSbigcalm: nah, it's just Chinese OEMs -> "Does it say "Charging"? OK ship it!"08:54
MartijnVdSpopey: they did, but then a standard was made by the USB people, and only non-Apple manufacturers actually follow that standard08:55
popeyinteresting. which pins do you short?08:55
MartijnVdSand very few charger manufacturers08:55
MartijnVdSthe middle 208:55
popeyand does that then work on all devices?08:55
MartijnVdSsee the hackerbot link :)08:55
MartijnVdSI think it might break for iDevices08:55
bigcalmOh, might have to follow that guide for my own car charger08:55
popeyta08:55
popeywe bought two car chargers recently08:56
popeywill bust one open to look08:56
popeyit says 1A on the box08:56
MartijnVdSmine says 2.1A on the box08:57
MartijnVdSbut if I plug it in in my car.. "Charging (USB)", which means 500mA max08:57
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shaunoodd, those pins weren't connected on your charger?09:00
MartijnVdSthey're not connected together09:00
MartijnVdSshauno: there's a bunch of resistors that does the "iphone" trick (http://learn.adafruit.com/minty-boost/icharging)09:01
shaunothat's kinda odd.  even on apple ones they would be09:01
popeythey're shorted on mine09:01
MartijnVdShmmm09:01
shaunoyeah, the apple ones put a different resistance between the data pins to indicate what current is availablew09:01
shaunoyour modding link goes into full ifud mode on that one09:02
MartijnVdSshauno: samsung uses the new "Charging Port" spec09:02
MartijnVdSshauno: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus#Charging_ports_and_accessory_charging_adapters09:02
popeyooh. my battery pack thing has a 1A and a 2A port, both say "Charging (AC)" when plugged in which is good to see09:03
shaunoeh, you can't win.  if apple did the same, people would just complain that they were just changing it so you had to buy new adaptors09:04
shaunoeither way, if the data pins aren't connected at all, it's not because they're trying to appease apple.  it's just a $2 charger :)09:04
MartijnVdSshauno: how expensive is a drop of solder these days though09:06
MartijnVdSor a 1mm strip of PCB!09:06
bigcalmIt's a design modification which requires extensive retesting to pass industry standards09:07
bigcalmSmall changes cost a lot of money09:07
MartijnVdSah.. 55kOhm09:07
MartijnVdSthat's the resistance between the middle pins on mine09:08
shaunoit's not the drop of solder that's the issue.  it's that my new adaptor with the pins shorted, wouldn't charge my existing ipad properly.  and then people get all shouty about planned obsolesence09:12
DJonesUgh, wish I could find a decent twitter client09:18
MartijnVdSDJones: www.twitter.com09:19
popeytweetdeck09:19
DJonesMartijnVdS: I don't like the web interface, I was using polly but with the api changes thats gone the pan, trying friends, but I prefer something that shows updates automaticallu09:20
DJonespopey: I've never liked tweetdeck, its great if you like multiple columns, but for a single column timeline I always found it cumbersome09:21
DJonesI'll have a look at it again though09:21
MartijnVdShttp://dx.com/p/elm327-wireless-obd-scan-tool-112586 + "Torque" app on phone = fun :)09:26
MartijnVdSwell, + car as well09:26
DJonesIs tweetdeck still available for Ubuntu09:26
bigcalmLemsip always looks and smells so nice, why does it have to taste horrible?09:26
MartijnVdSit's a chrome app09:26
MartijnVdSDJones: http://tweetdeck.com/09:26
DJonesMartijnVdS: Mac OS or Win XP only looking at the page, don't really want to use a web browser, just looking for a client that I can stick in a small window in the bottom of the screen09:28
MartijnVdShttps://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tweetdeck/hbdpomandigafcibbmofojjchbcdagbl ?09:29
MartijnVdSworks for me09:29
popeyi dont use the app, but the website09:31
DJonesMartijnVdS: Ugh, that is awful, thats the complete opposite of what I'm trying to find09:36
DJonesGoing to have a look at Turpial to see if thats working09:37
brobostigongood morning everyone,09:49
MartijnVdS\o brobostigon09:49
brobostigonmorning MartijnVdS09:49
bigcalmAnybody use a simple rating plugin for wordpress?10:02
bigcalmKind of like +/- of other sites such as Stackexchange10:02
MartijnVdSdisqus?10:04
brobostigoni have the google+ thingie on drupal here, for my mums blog, not thats any one uses it.10:05
brobostigonwidget*10:05
MartijnVdSDisqus is easy, because it works with G+, Facebook, Twitter or its own login10:05
MartijnVdSmost people have FB10:05
MartijnVdSand/or Google10:05
bigcalmI don't really want to link into another social media network10:07
bigcalmJust need a way for readers to rate what they've just read - incase they find it useful or not10:07
bigcalmhttp://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-postratings/ looks like a likely candidate10:08
MartijnVdSah10:08
mungbean ratings get trolled unless you sign in. fact10:10
bigcalmI'm not overly bothered. My site isn't that popular10:12
mungbeanagh. batteries leaked in my gold wii remote10:16
mungbeanthis could be useful https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/murally/nnhlnnalackljjehlfocmheepffkiihf?hl=en10:22
mungbeanweb apps are really replacing apps. been waiting for the gnome app to mature "the board" but its gone stale10:23
ali1234bigcalm: there's loads but they are all far too easy to abuse10:42
ali1234if your site isn't popular nobody will rate things anyway10:43
MartijnVdStime to make some tea!12:01
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popeyAfternoon15:06
brobostigonafternoonings popey'ness15:06
brobostigon5*, ghostbusters 1, :)15:07
MartijnVdSooooh :)15:25
MartijnVdSoh it's not on freesat15:26
brobostigon:(15:27
MartijnVdSbrobostigon: I have the bluray]15:34
brobostigonyay :)15:35
brobostigonmade in 1984, it is almost as old as i am, wow.15:35
shaunobrobostigon: are you available on bluray yet?15:36
brobostigonheh :(15:36
brobostigonmarshmellow man, :)16:20
mungbeanghostbuster was the first single i bought19:10
mungbeanray parker jr19:10
DJonesWell thats something you don't see everyday, a woman walking down the road cradling a ferret in her arms and bottle feeding it milk19:27
penguin42haha19:32
dwatkinsDJones: pics?19:37
penguin42DJones: Where was this?19:38
DJonesAfraid not, I was too busy making sure my dog wasn't thinking yum, dinner19:38
DJonespenguin42: Cheshire19:38
DJonesWhen I spoke to her, she said her & husband were trying to find a second escaped ferret that had been seen in the area19:39
penguin42DJones: Bit posh for a Ferret isn't it?  Expect them more in Bolton with the flat caps19:42
DJonesI don't know about posh, the only thing I know about ferrets is _not_ to put them down your trousers19:43
penguin42yes, it doesn't sound like a good idea19:44

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