[08:37] <popey> Good morning
[08:47] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps
[08:47] <MartijnVdS> \o
[08:50] <bigcalm> How are you today MartijnVdS?
[08:51] <MartijnVdS> \o/ weekend :)
[08:52] <MartijnVdS> about to add a drop of solder to my car usb charger
[08:52] <bigcalm> Indeed, best time of the week
[08:52] <MartijnVdS> (so my phone recognises it as a proper charger instead of an USB port)
[08:52] <bigcalm> Poor design
[08:53] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: most car chargers are for Apple stuff
[08:53] <bigcalm> :(
[08:53] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: and they use a non-standard way of detecting "more than 500mA" capability
[08:53] <MartijnVdS> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906901
[08:54] <bigcalm> It's so that you have to buy their stuff
[08:54] <MartijnVdS> well, http://www.hackerbotlabs.com/2013/02/modding-a-usb-car-charger-for-faster-charging/ really
[08:54] <popey> i thought it was because they did it before others
[08:54] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: nah, it's just Chinese OEMs -> "Does it say "Charging"? OK ship it!"
[08:55] <MartijnVdS> popey: they did, but then a standard was made by the USB people, and only non-Apple manufacturers actually follow that standard
[08:55] <popey> interesting. which pins do you short?
[08:55] <MartijnVdS> and very few charger manufacturers
[08:55] <MartijnVdS> the middle 2
[08:55] <popey> and does that then work on all devices?
[08:55] <MartijnVdS> see the hackerbot link :)
[08:55] <MartijnVdS> I think it might break for iDevices
[08:55] <bigcalm> Oh, might have to follow that guide for my own car charger
[08:55] <popey> ta
[08:56] <popey> we bought two car chargers recently
[08:56] <popey> will bust one open to look
[08:56] <popey> it says 1A on the box
[08:57] <MartijnVdS> mine says 2.1A on the box
[08:57] <MartijnVdS> but if I plug it in in my car.. "Charging (USB)", which means 500mA max
[09:00] <shauno> odd, those pins weren't connected on your charger?
[09:00] <MartijnVdS> they're not connected together
[09:01] <MartijnVdS> shauno: there's a bunch of resistors that does the "iphone" trick (http://learn.adafruit.com/minty-boost/icharging)
[09:01] <shauno> that's kinda odd.  even on apple ones they would be
[09:01] <popey> they're shorted on mine
[09:01] <MartijnVdS> hmmm
[09:01] <shauno> yeah, the apple ones put a different resistance between the data pins to indicate what current is availablew
[09:02] <shauno> your modding link goes into full ifud mode on that one
[09:02] <MartijnVdS> shauno: samsung uses the new "Charging Port" spec
[09:02] <MartijnVdS> shauno: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus#Charging_ports_and_accessory_charging_adapters
[09:03] <popey> ooh. my battery pack thing has a 1A and a 2A port, both say "Charging (AC)" when plugged in which is good to see
[09:04] <shauno> eh, you can't win.  if apple did the same, people would just complain that they were just changing it so you had to buy new adaptors
[09:04] <shauno> either way, if the data pins aren't connected at all, it's not because they're trying to appease apple.  it's just a $2 charger :)
[09:06] <MartijnVdS> shauno: how expensive is a drop of solder these days though
[09:06] <MartijnVdS> or a 1mm strip of PCB!
[09:07] <bigcalm> It's a design modification which requires extensive retesting to pass industry standards
[09:07] <bigcalm> Small changes cost a lot of money
[09:07] <MartijnVdS> ah.. 55kOhm
[09:08] <MartijnVdS> that's the resistance between the middle pins on mine
[09:12] <shauno> it's not the drop of solder that's the issue.  it's that my new adaptor with the pins shorted, wouldn't charge my existing ipad properly.  and then people get all shouty about planned obsolesence
[09:18] <DJones> Ugh, wish I could find a decent twitter client
[09:19] <MartijnVdS> DJones: www.twitter.com
[09:19] <popey> tweetdeck
[09:20] <DJones> MartijnVdS: I don't like the web interface, I was using polly but with the api changes thats gone the pan, trying friends, but I prefer something that shows updates automaticallu
[09:21] <DJones> popey: I've never liked tweetdeck, its great if you like multiple columns, but for a single column timeline I always found it cumbersome
[09:21] <DJones> I'll have a look at it again though
[09:26] <MartijnVdS> http://dx.com/p/elm327-wireless-obd-scan-tool-112586 + "Torque" app on phone = fun :)
[09:26] <MartijnVdS> well, + car as well
[09:26] <DJones> Is tweetdeck still available for Ubuntu
[09:26] <bigcalm> Lemsip always looks and smells so nice, why does it have to taste horrible?
[09:26] <MartijnVdS> it's a chrome app
[09:26] <MartijnVdS> DJones: http://tweetdeck.com/
[09:28] <DJones> MartijnVdS: Mac OS or Win XP only looking at the page, don't really want to use a web browser, just looking for a client that I can stick in a small window in the bottom of the screen
[09:29] <MartijnVdS> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tweetdeck/hbdpomandigafcibbmofojjchbcdagbl ?
[09:29] <MartijnVdS> works for me
[09:31] <popey> i dont use the app, but the website
[09:36] <DJones> MartijnVdS: Ugh, that is awful, thats the complete opposite of what I'm trying to find
[09:37] <DJones> Going to have a look at Turpial to see if thats working
[09:49] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[09:49] <MartijnVdS> \o brobostigon
[09:49] <brobostigon> morning MartijnVdS
[10:02] <bigcalm> Anybody use a simple rating plugin for wordpress?
[10:02] <bigcalm> Kind of like +/- of other sites such as Stackexchange
[10:04] <MartijnVdS> disqus?
[10:05] <brobostigon> i have the google+ thingie on drupal here, for my mums blog, not thats any one uses it.
[10:05] <brobostigon> widget*
[10:05] <MartijnVdS> Disqus is easy, because it works with G+, Facebook, Twitter or its own login
[10:05] <MartijnVdS> most people have FB
[10:05] <MartijnVdS> and/or Google
[10:07] <bigcalm> I don't really want to link into another social media network
[10:07] <bigcalm> Just need a way for readers to rate what they've just read - incase they find it useful or not
[10:08] <bigcalm> http://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-postratings/ looks like a likely candidate
[10:08] <MartijnVdS> ah
[10:10] <mungbean>  ratings get trolled unless you sign in. fact
[10:12] <bigcalm> I'm not overly bothered. My site isn't that popular
[10:16] <mungbean> agh. batteries leaked in my gold wii remote
[10:22] <mungbean> this could be useful https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/murally/nnhlnnalackljjehlfocmheepffkiihf?hl=en
[10:23] <mungbean> web apps are really replacing apps. been waiting for the gnome app to mature "the board" but its gone stale
[10:42] <ali1234> bigcalm: there's loads but they are all far too easy to abuse
[10:43] <ali1234> if your site isn't popular nobody will rate things anyway
[12:01] <MartijnVdS> time to make some tea!
[15:06] <popey> Afternoon
[15:06] <brobostigon> afternoonings popey'ness
[15:07] <brobostigon> 5*, ghostbusters 1, :)
[15:25] <MartijnVdS> ooooh :)
[15:26] <MartijnVdS> oh it's not on freesat
[15:27] <brobostigon> :(
[15:34] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: I have the bluray]
[15:35] <brobostigon> yay :)
[15:35] <brobostigon> made in 1984, it is almost as old as i am, wow.
[15:36] <shauno> brobostigon: are you available on bluray yet?
[15:36] <brobostigon> heh :(
[16:20] <brobostigon> marshmellow man, :)
[19:10] <mungbean> ghostbuster was the first single i bought
[19:10] <mungbean> ray parker jr
[19:27] <DJones> Well thats something you don't see everyday, a woman walking down the road cradling a ferret in her arms and bottle feeding it milk
[19:32] <penguin42> haha
[19:37] <dwatkins> DJones: pics?
[19:38] <penguin42> DJones: Where was this?
[19:38] <DJones> Afraid not, I was too busy making sure my dog wasn't thinking yum, dinner
[19:38] <DJones> penguin42: Cheshire
[19:39] <DJones> When I spoke to her, she said her & husband were trying to find a second escaped ferret that had been seen in the area
[19:42] <penguin42> DJones: Bit posh for a Ferret isn't it?  Expect them more in Bolton with the flat caps
[19:43] <DJones> I don't know about posh, the only thing I know about ferrets is _not_ to put them down your trousers
[19:44] <penguin42> yes, it doesn't sound like a good idea