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Unit193So anyone trying out the nightingale music manager?00:15
skellatHadn't heard of it00:20
skellatWhere is it packaged?00:20
Unit193Release and nightly ppas only.00:22
Unit193(Or an Ubuntu Needs-packaging.)00:22
Unit193yanoyanoyanoyanoyanoyanoyano: There's a weather channel for every state, no?00:26
thafreakwait, is nightingale related to songbird?02:26
skellatAccording to Launchpad it is.02:29
skellatHold on02:29
skellathttps://launchpad.net/nightingale02:29
jenni[ Nightingale in Launchpad ] - http://j.mp/12Mncqh02:29
skellatAnd then there is this: http://getnightingale.com/02:31
jenni[ Nightingale ] - http://j.mp/12MnoGa02:31
skellatTheir detector isn't too swift though as it suggests a 32-bit x86 download...and Firefox telegraphs that it is armhf in this case as I'm sitting at the BeagleBoard02:32
Unit193thafreak: Yeah, fork basically, and songbird announced today that Songbird is dead.02:37
Unit193thafreak: http://blog.songbirdnest.com/you-gotta-know-when-to-fold-em/02:37
jenni[ You gotta know when to fold ‘em | News from the Nest ] - http://j.mp/12MnZaC02:37
skellatChoqok announced it was being handed over to community support yesterday too: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Choqok-Twitter-client-handed-over-to-community-1887989.html02:41
jenni[ Choqok Twitter client handed over to community - The H Open: News and Features ] - http://j.mp/12MojpZ02:41
skellatAnd I went off of pidgin-microblog not being Twitter API compliant now either: https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/pidgin-microblog/+bug/119040602:45
jenni[ Bug #1190406 “pidgin-microblog: Plugin is not Twitter API 1.1 Co...” : Bugs : “pidgin-microblog” package : Debian ] - http://j.mp/12MoGAJ02:45
skellatThough this does not really bode well: http://code.google.com/p/microblog-purple/issues/detail?id=26902:48
jenni[ Issue 269 - microblog-purple - Plugin is not Twitter API 1.1 Compliant? - Libpurple (Pidgin) plug-in supporting microblog services like Twitter - Google Project Hosting ] - http://j.mp/12MoQIy02:48
* Unit193 may or may not start using pidgin-torchat02:48
skellatI dunno.  There's more than Tor out there.  Freenet and GNUnet provide options too.02:50
Unit193So?  If you were to say something about using freenet, should I then say you can use tor? :P02:51
Unit193And wasn't freenet java?02:51
skellatI think so02:52
skellatPCWorld just did a piece trying to popularize Freenet for the general public02:52
skellatCapitalizing on the nastiness of the NSA leaks ASAP02:52
Unit193It is, so not interested. :P02:54
skellatAre we moving to the end times of shunning not just Java but Flash too?02:54
Unit193Eh?02:55
Unit193Was I2P anything interesting?02:56
skellatMeh, coulda swore there was an ubuntu-release discussion about the end of support for Flash on Linux and how it wasn't going to be such a bad thing in the end for everybody02:56
Unit193It should be a bit yet.02:57
skellatI2P was tangentially connected to FreedomBox...the hope & promise of a project that remains mired in the problem of not having enough engineers to throw at it to build something that is actually usable and deployable for developers let alone end-users.02:59
Unit193So basically it is just Tor. :P02:59
skellatNo03:01
skellatIt wanted to adopt a different communication routing method03:01
skellatNot the shell game that Tor is03:01
Unit193No, I meant the only real option is Tor, then. ;)03:02
skellatSoftware alone is just part of the solution set, though03:02
skellatHow you use it matters, though03:02
skellatSome of the bigger intelligence coups the NSA has had against opponents, as documented by James Bamford in the various books he's written about the agency, usually relate to the abuse & misuse of the secure tools provided to users.03:03
skellatJames Bamford is a chronicler of the NSA's history and his writing is very easy to engage with03:04
skellatPrior to the Snowden revelations, a lot of detail about signals intelligence work came out in court cases in Florida against captured Cuban spies03:06
skellatThose details are generally public knowledge and in the papers.  The most recent such case was known as "The Cuban Five".03:07
skellatIn their situation, they had reasonably good tools.  The tools alone were misused, though.  The tools did not save them from NSA due to the misuse.  A little more care on their part and they might have avoided NSA a little more.03:08
* skellat wanders away03:32
Unit193thafreak: And think I fixed the graphics issues.17:11
Unit193https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/1173649 Chris little crapper....17:40
jenni[ Bug #1173649 “incorrect color depth - intel graphics card” : Bugs : “xserver-xorg-video-intel” package : Ubuntu ] - http://j.mp/12Nssdf17:40
* skellat had forgotten how paranoid the folks on the "liberationtech" mailing list are and is yet bothered that he cannot understand why they'd discuss targeting & killing select TCP traffic flows w/o any particular context in their threads21:02

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