[00:01] <LupusNoctis> Anyone have the cmdline syntax handy for making the default 13.04 Desktop GUI non-3d accelerated?  I think that's why everything but the system elements and TTY are a black blank screen for me
[00:03] <kostkon> LupusNoctis, http://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/04/no-unity-here-enable-classic-gnome-in-ubuntu-13-04/
[00:05] <zykotick9> LupusNoctis: did you install an out-of-repo ati/nvidia driver?
[00:07] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know winconn? Is it the ultimate solution? or is there any better equivalent?
[00:07] <vfw> mojtaba: For what?  (What is winconn?)
[00:08] <mojtaba> vfw: it is for using windows apps in linux.
[00:08] <mojtaba> anybody else?
[00:08] <tylerehome> ok, so I put up with unity for 17 hours...which is about 16.9 longer than I thought...e17 time now though
[00:08] <vfw> mojtaba: But there are very few windows apps one would need.  Right?
[00:09] <ThothCastel> vfw: working now than ks!
[00:09] <elisa87> can anyone please help me with this error? libtool: install: error: relink `libpcreposix.la' with the above command before installing it
[00:09] <LupusNoctis> zykotick9: this is just a base install from the latest distro, with the internet updates enabled
[00:09] <LupusNoctis> haven't done any funny stuff yet, other than enable/disable the "3d accel" setting in the VirtualBox VM
[00:09] <vfw> ThothCastel: What?
[00:10] <ThothCastel> vfw SSH connection
[00:10] <LupusNoctis> I'm guessing there are special distro images for use inside VMs, or something.
[00:10] <vfw> ThothCastel: Oh.  You got it working?
[00:11] <mojtaba> vfw: Yes, but at the end there is no limitation!
[00:11] <kboodu> Can someone point me at a documented source on why it's bad to next mounts on Linux?
[00:12] <vfw> kboodu: "next mounts"?
[00:12] <kboodu> Why you should not mount the following drives ( / (/dev/sdc1), /var (/dev/sdd1), /var/data1 (/dev/mapper/vg_data) , /var/data1/info ( /dev/mapper/vg_data_info) as an example.  I need a FINE manual to point to
[00:12] <kboodu> Err, nested mounts
[00:13] <kboodu> It's too late on a Friday....and I shouldn't be trying to "prove" this.
[00:13] <Ben64> kboodu: what?
[00:13] <vfw> mojtaba: I've used wine, but not winconn
[00:13] <kboodu> Ben64: Nested mounts...
[00:13] <vfw> mojtaba: I've also used VB
[00:14] <kboodu> Shouldn't use the term drives...<sigh>  Mount points.
[00:14] <Ben64> kboodu: could you explain what you're saying in english
[00:14] <kboodu>  the root filesystem / is /dev/sdc1
[00:14] <mojtaba> vfw: please check its website
[00:15] <lenswipe> hey guys
[00:15] <kboodu>  then /var is mounted (/dev/sdd1)
[00:15] <kostkon> kboodu, what would you want to do that?
[00:15] <kboodu> but then they mount /dev/mapper/data1 as /var/data
[00:15] <lenswipe> for some reason my girlfriend's macbook (previously running ubuntu) shows the ubuntu loading screen for a split second and then just shows a black screen
[00:15] <lenswipe> can someone help?
[00:15] <kboodu> and then /dev/mapper/vg_info as /var/data/info
[00:15] <lenswipe> I've tried purging the MBR and grub and re-installing both - no change
[00:16] <Ben64> kboodu: ok, is there a question related to ubuntu support anywhere in there?
[00:16] <lenswipe> and because ubuntu isn't giving me any more detailed info than a black screen I don't really know what direction to go in
[00:16] <lenswipe> I do have a log from the boot repair I can link to though if that would help
[00:16] <lenswipe> does anyone have any idea what might be up with this?
[00:16] <Ben64> !nomodeset | lenswipe
[00:16] <kboodu> And no, I would NOT want to do that.  But I'm not able to convince anyone else it's bad (because if you lose anything in ther you lose everythign underneath).
[00:16] <kboodu> Ben64: Why would you do that on Ubuntu or ANY linux system?
[00:17] <lenswipe> Ben64, it's s macbook
[00:17] <kboodu> Is there something in the Ubuntu documentation to NOT do that.
[00:17] <SunTsu> lenswipe: Google might have been a good start: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen
[00:17] <lenswipe> SunTsu, >.<
[00:17] <Ben64> lenswipe: ok? the factoid is still relevant
[00:17] <lenswipe> SunTsu, Ben64, it worked fine before - this crap started when I tried to upgrade
[00:17] <kostkon> kboodu, test it on a vm and observe the results, the scientific way
[00:17] <Ben64> lenswipe: upgrade from what to what
[00:18] <RJ45> my System Monitor has a network  MB counter, how do I reset it?  (it's the one that comes default with Ubuntu 10.04)
[00:18] <kostkon> kboodu, have the other person next to you
[00:18] <lenswipe> upgrade from 12.04 to 12.10 so that I can continue to upgrade to the newest one
[00:18] <lenswipe> ben^
[00:18] <lenswipe> Ben64, ^
[00:18] <vfw> mojtaba: Interesting...
[00:18] <kboodu> kostkon: It's doable.  It's NOT a good idea.  I'm looking for documentation explaining WHY.
[00:18] <SunTsu> lenswipe: yeah, lots of people had that issue. Did you try to do what that wiki page suggests?
[00:18] <Ben64> lenswipe: 12.04 is the latest LTS, but you should still try nomodeset or what SunTsu linked to
[00:18] <kostkon> kboodu, right
[00:18] <kboodu> kostkon: Something I can point.
[00:19] <lenswipe> SunTsu, I will look now - it's doubly difficult because the laptop is my girlfriend's and she's in the US and I'm doing this over teamviewer
[00:19] <lenswipe> err google hangout*
[00:19] <lenswipe> Ben64, okay - thanks
[00:19] <elisa87> If you know the answer to this question please answer it http://askubuntu.com/questions/308378/installing-pcre-from-source-make-install-error
[00:20] <checoimg> I stopped upgrading some time ago because of this kind of problems
[00:22] <melow01> I'm trying to play an audio.wav file out of my headphone jack in Ubuntu Server. suggestions?
[00:24] <EDocToor> Help Please: I have a 3 boot PC; XP, EMC2 Ubuntu 10.04, and a FAILED X issue with my Newly installed Ubuntu 12.04 32bit.. as the grub boots it into a colorful unoccupied desktop; I assume that the Graphic's is the issue as my Ubuntu 10.04 loads the graphics quite fine.
[00:24] <elisa87> libpcre3 is already the newest version.
[00:25] <vfw> checoimg: Which kind of problem?
[00:25]  * bellasbells waves at msdaisy
[00:25] <bellasbells> EDocToor: what graphics card are you using?
[00:26] <kostkon> melow01, does it even come with alsa?
[00:26] <vfw> EDocToor: "a colorful unoccupied desktop"?
[00:27] <EDocToor> vfw... HANGGED / LOCKED.. I don't know..
[00:27] <EDocToor> bellasbells, brb.. looking now
[00:27] <vfw> EDocToor: How about tty6?
[00:27] <zykotick9> melow01: do you have alsamixer installed?  probably in the alsa-utils package.
[00:28] <EDocToor> vfw, I don't understand tty6
[00:28] <vfw> EDocToor: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[00:28] <SpaceManiac> vfw: removing some several-GB directories still left me at 100%, here's du -sm: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5766374/ - nothing seems to be taking up that much space
[00:28] <msdaisy> lol hi bellasbells
[00:29] <zykotick9> SpaceManiac: ncdu might help?  is this ext formatted or fat/ntfs?
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> SpaceManiac, There s a root trash, I set mine to delete/bypass this trash.
[00:29] <wilee-nilee> is*
[00:30] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: root trash?  what?
[00:30] <melow01> kostkon, no, I installed alsa
[00:30] <SpaceManiac> zykotick9: no ncdu installed, pretty sure it's ext4
[00:31] <zykotick9> SpaceManiac: ncdu isn't installed by default - but it's mightly helpful...
[00:31] <melow01> zykotick9, yes, I verified audio levels with alsamixer but no output
[00:31] <EDocToor> vfw, this time the boot stopped with this error: /dev/disk/by-jaljdlsjflsjdf does not exist...
[00:31] <SpaceManiac> zykotick9: full disk.
[00:31] <EDocToor> I guess I mucked it up for good eh
[00:31] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, I believe so, there is a folder for deleted stuff if you gksudo nautilus, I think.
[00:31] <EDocToor> the video card is nvidia
[00:31] <zykotick9> SpaceManiac: that sucks... good luck.
[00:31] <EDocToor> I have to power down to look at the card
[00:31] <SpaceManiac> wilee-nilee: just rm -rf'd them, not nautilus
[00:32] <vfw> EDocToor: NOt sure what that means.
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> ah
[00:32] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: you're right, i'd believe is you do silly thinks like "gksudo nautilus" that silly things will happen...  but hey MUCH better then just using sudo ;)
[00:32] <EDocToor> vfw... it means that my grub needs to be updated/reinstalled
[00:32] <kostkon> melow01, as already suggested, check your volume levels and switches in alsamixer.
[00:32] <EDocToor> do I have to reinstall ubuntu to reinstall the grub
[00:33] <vfw> !grub | EDocToor
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, I rarely gksudo nautilus, mainly to just set that trash closed, like I do in home.
[00:33] <melow01> kostkon, thanks, ya i checked those
[00:33] <Eclipse> that reminds me, damn windows 7 overwrote both of my partitions a few weeks ago
[00:33] <msdaisy> EDocToor: no. look at the link.
[00:33] <EDocToor> Awesome vfw... that should get me going
[00:34] <EDocToor> msdaisy, what? link
[00:34] <Eclipse> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-pMZd1fupw
[00:35] <EDocToor> the error was Gave up waiting for root device
[00:35] <EDocToor> disk... does not exist
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> zykotick9, Honestly you never know what a user has done, I assume anything. ;)
[00:35] <msdaisy> ugh
[00:37] <LupusNoctis> Yeah, this really just is not working.   Back to using  Win7  in  Windows Virtual PC,  I suppose
[00:38] <zykotick9> wilee-nilee: that's a "safe" assumption ;)
[00:40] <SpaceManiac> hm
[00:40] <melow01> kostkon, my server is command line only, is that an issue?
[00:40] <l-sannin> :O
[00:40] <kostkon> melow01, not really
[00:40] <l-sannin> yeah
[00:40] <melow01> kostkon, ok
[00:40] <l-sannin> nice only commad lin
[00:40] <l-sannin> e
[00:41] <MJX> ?
[00:44] <LupusNoctis> Hmm, perhaps v12 behaves better inside Virtualbox
[00:44] <melow01> using lsmod, how do I know which device is my default audio card?
[00:47] <ultraParadigm> Pls rescue me!  My startup items don't work, and when I delete the items in ./config/autostart they come back by themselves!
[00:48] <ultraParadigm> My Ubuntu is haunted!
[00:48] <dr_willis> what items
[00:48] <ultraParadigm> things like...
[00:48] <ultraParadigm> guake.desktop, gnome-do.desktop, psensor.desktop
[00:49] <ultraParadigm> stuff I put in there a while ago
[00:49] <dr_willis> but they dont startup anyway?
[00:49] <ultraParadigm> I made a new session that runs compiz and cairo-dock but no gnome shell, and now the start up items don't start.
[00:49] <ultraParadigm> and I can't clear them either lol
[00:50] <dr_willis> so they dont start.. and thats what you want isent it?
[00:51] <dr_willis> compiz dosent read that directory as far as I know.
[00:51] <ultraParadigm> I go to .config/autostart and do "rm *"  they all get deleted, but then later on they come back.  Especially if I go to startup applications in setup and remove them from there to, then they come back immediately
[00:51] <ultraParadigm> No I want the start up items to work, but I'm trying to clear them first so I can redo them.
[00:51] <EDocToor> Enter rescue mode Question: "Device to use a root file system:" with a TRIPPLE boot XP, Ubuntu old compiled for EMC2, and Ubuntu CURRENT.. what would I select? /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2 /dev/sda3 /devsda4 or Do not use a root file system
[00:53] <mwalker|here> *waves* I've got a 13.04 server that's having some issues; my best thought currently is seemingly related to proc either not being mounted, or somehow being mounted with the wrong permissions. anyone know what is actually responsible for mounting proc? This is the log line I'm currently chasing down "libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-module.c:1567 kmod_module_new_from_loaded: could not open /proc/modules: No such file or directory"
[00:55] <mwalker|here> EDocToor: that would depend on what you're attempting to do -- since you're unsure you might be best just not using a root fs and let it boot to a ramdisk
[00:55] <EDocToor> nwalker|here thanks
[00:58] <SpaceManiac> where in the world is my disk space going
[00:58] <Ben64> could be open files
[00:58] <Serraphyn> This might be OT and if so i'll go ask somewhere else, I just installed 13.04 and was wondering how I could setup the system to work as the gateway for all my internet, basically Modem -> Ubuntu -> my internal router(wifi) that has DHCP already going on it.  My idea is to hookup my android phone to the ubuntu box as a second internet when my cable internet goes down.
[01:00] <msdaisy> Serraphyn: I dont think you understand how routing works. you could use the ubuntu phone as a second internet connection.
[01:00] <msdaisy> but not the ubuntu os on a computer.
[01:02] <Serraphyn> msdaisy, I think you misunderstood what i was wanting to do.  I'm not really super concerned with the phone aspect right now anyways. I'm wanting to setup my ubuntu 13.04 box as a gateway, it has 2 physical Wired LAN cards to accomplish this already installed and working
[01:02] <Ben64> Serraphyn: you have a router.. it does a better job at being a router than your computer would
[01:02] <dr_willis> ! ics
[01:03] <Serraphyn> Ben64, again not the point
[01:03] <SpaceManiac> Ben64: I don't think I have >half my hard drive of open files
[01:04] <Ben64> SpaceManiac: restart into single user mode and check free space again
[01:04] <msdaisy> Serraphyn: then help us understand. what do you want to accomplish by having ubuntu ad the gateway?
[01:05] <Serraphyn> msdaisy, partly I want to use it to control the internet connections to the internal system. Right now I just have a Buffalo Router which is fine, but it wont allow for more then one form of internet connection at a time.
[01:05] <Daughain> Morning, all.
[01:08] <msdaisy> Serraphyn: I don't know what that means "to control internet connections to the internal connections." it sounds to me like you just need a better router. can you install dd-wrt on the buffalo router?
[01:08] <Ben64> and you can't really use more than one form of internet at a time
[01:09] <Serraphyn> Redundancy is the reason Ben64
[01:09] <Serraphyn> If one internet goes down, I want the other to kick in
[01:09] <LupusNoctis> Oh, DD-WRT will do that, Backup WAN connections
[01:09] <LupusNoctis> even Load balancing, perhaps
[01:10] <Ben64> load balancing requires better hardware
[01:10] <Serraphyn> LupusNoctis, I wasn't able to find anything about using android phone pass thru for that
[01:10] <msdaisy> Serraphyn: again, the solution would be to tether your computer to your phone and use the cell data
[01:10] <LupusNoctis> Surprised the Buffalo doesn't do that straight off, they are a higher end router far as I've encountered
[01:10] <LupusNoctis> Oh, hmm,  a USB tethered phone as the backup WAN?  that could be trickier
[01:12] <Ben64> some buffalos come with dd-wrt preinstalled
[01:12] <Elegant> hi
[01:12] <Serraphyn> LupusNoctis, awesome routers tbh, I'm glad I spent the 250 for it, amazing wif signal, just my isp has gone down a few times lately during the day for a few hours a time and we need our debit machine for credit/debit cards to stay active.
[01:13] <msdaisy> Serraphyn: then you need a different ISP
[01:14] <Serraphyn> msdaisy, thats not a real solution tbh, all ISPs have down time. I'm setting up something for reliability
[01:14] <LupusNoctis> Serra: is there another provider you can use, that end up in an Ethernet termination?
[01:14] <LupusNoctis> because it's easiest to backup/LB two ethernet WAN ports
[01:15] <Serraphyn> LupusNoctis, I know but I'd rather have my cell phone as the second cause it would only cost me like 20$ if we go down for a few days even once in a bit vs having a perm second recycling bill.  I'll figure it out and make a wiki or something on how to do it.
[01:16] <Ben64> Serraphyn: solution is to keep your phone tethered 24/7?
[01:16] <Serraphyn> Ben64, when its down yes, I hate my cell phone anyways.
[01:16] <LupusNoctis> oh, this is something You'd manually configure?
[01:16] <Ben64> would be easier to get a dialup connection lol
[01:16] <LupusNoctis> If it were manual, then what you could do
[01:17] <LupusNoctis> is set up a different, cheap router in Wifi access mode
[01:17] <LupusNoctis> and use it to Extend the phone's Wifi net sharing
[01:17] <LupusNoctis> and connect the debit terms to that ethernet
[01:17] <LupusNoctis> WiFi repeater/Extender mode, rather
[01:17] <LupusNoctis> then, just swap out that router for the Buffalo on the network side
[01:17] <LupusNoctis> power cycle the debit terms to get new DHCP, and off ya go
[01:18] <LupusNoctis> You follow?
[01:18] <Serraphyn> Ben64, my phone comes from my internet carrier and the both go down at same time.
[01:19] <Serraphyn> LupusNoctis, yes I know what you mean but thats not the solution I want. I can make this actually auto switch I juust have to figure out how to setup the tethering
[01:19] <LupusNoctis> Look into how to Tether USB modems to the Buffalo
[01:19] <msdaisy> Serraphyn: lol. get a verizon mifi card. or some other cell data plan
[01:20] <Serraphyn> msdaisy, again the plan I'm on is actually cheaper monthly if I max out my cell data as I have LTE service and it works fine.
[01:20] <Serraphyn> Max I pay a month for 10G of data would be 50$ were as a mifi of the cheatest calibur would be 90$ a month even if I don't use it all
[01:21] <msdaisy> Serraphyn: i understand. but if you're looking for reliable enterprise-worthy failover then you need a mifi or something.
[01:22] <LupusNoctis> The lowest level plan from an alt DSL provider is probably a better config, Serra.
[01:22] <LupusNoctis> or, if your main is DSL, a cable provider
[01:22] <Serraphyn> LupusNoctis, lowest cost DSL would be about 40 a month, every month
[01:23] <LupusNoctis> Is it worth $40 to keep your POS terminals up?  That's a business class decision, not a tech one :)
[01:23] <LupusNoctis> but, there should be a way to get a USB device recognized by the buffalo
[01:23] <LupusNoctis> I know they work with USB HDD devices.
[01:24] <LupusNoctis> DD-WRT might have more on how USB WAN modems would work
[01:24] <janof> can anyone confimr what the best way to re-import a pgp key is?
[01:24] <Serraphyn> LupusNoctis, I just want to use a gateway device to manage this
[01:24] <LupusNoctis> some buffalo's run DD-WRT stock
[01:24] <janof> my computer crashed on me
[01:24] <msdaisy> Serraphyn: Crunch the numbers. How much are a few hours of down time worth to you in sales? pay that much for a backup plan.
[01:25] <LupusNoctis> Oh, hmm, what's that linux distro that tries to virtualize a bunch of networking related components.... hmm
[01:25] <jason_hudson> Hello everyone, I'm having some difficulties understanding some "features" of Ubuntu Online Accounts, whenever I try to set an empathy account up I'm taken to the Online Accounts tab where I'm supposed to configure them, now, instead of asking me my data Ubuntu is taking me to a web page within that tab where I'm supposed to log in, whenever I log into a service (let's say Google) I'm told that the data will be handled accordi
[01:25] <jason_hudson> ng to Google's and Ubuntu's (Canonical's?) policies. Does that mean that Canonical is going to store my data on their server? I don't seem to understand how it works (there's also a legal notice that's quite confusing); could anyone explain this to me? Maybe back it up with some official documentation IF POSSIBLE, many thanks in advance.
[01:25] <jason_hudson> Wall o' text. :S
[01:28] <husnainlatif> jason_hudson, whenever i try to login to facebook on empathy, it opens up the default browser and logs me in there -_-
[01:29] <husnainlatif> and xchat, and ubuntu is great so far
[01:29] <ccc> hello
[01:29] <husnainlatif> hi ccc
[01:29] <ccc> i installed disk mount utility
[01:29] <ccc> gnome i think
[01:29] <ccc> how do i actually run the application?
[01:30] <vfw> ccc: Don't use Enter for puncuaton.
[01:30] <jason_hudson> husnainlatif, I only tried GTalk so far, with Empathy and it also logged Shotwell on Picasa. I don't understand where the data is stored though. Can't seem to understand if Canonical is being a middle-man or just putting a legal notice to tell us that that one app (User Accounts) logs into all of my account's services even if I only use one (and thus the data is stored locally).
[01:30] <vfw> ccc: What is a "disk mount utility"?
[01:31] <ccc> i download gnome disk utility from the software center
[01:31] <Daughain> Hey, are there any kind of time widgets under Unity?
[01:31] <ccc> but i do not know ho to lauch the utility
[01:31] <husnainlatif> time widget? isn't the default clock enough?
[01:31] <Daughain> I need four timezones.
[01:32] <Daughain> Other than local time.
[01:32] <naryfa> ccc: I think its called disks when it's installed
[01:32] <kostkon> Daughain, you can add more i think
[01:32] <husnainlatif> you can do that with the default clock as well Daughain
[01:32] <naryfa> ccc: hit alt+F2 and type disks
[01:33] <Daughain> husnainlatif, Ok, I need to look into that then.....Still getting used to Unity.
[01:34] <husnainlatif> Daughain,  time & date settings > clock tab >  choose locations...
[01:34] <husnainlatif> hope that helps
[01:34] <Daughain> husnainlatif, do they all display?
[01:35] <husnainlatif> in the dropdown, yes
[01:35] <husnainlatif> i'll bbl.
[01:35] <janof> with PGP, if i lost my private key, but i have my public key, revoke.asc, and i have my passphrase, is it possible to get my private key back?
[01:36] <th0r> janof: no, I don't think so
[01:36] <Tylerjd> Is there a way to do a full disk scan on a hard drive that is reporting bad sectors and it finds that it does not actually have bad sectors it will... re-enable those sectors per say?
[01:36] <Daughain> Thanks.Thats a strat, at least. =)
[01:36] <Daughain> Start
[01:37] <janof> th0r, since i have the revoke, i can just take it back and make a new key right?
[01:39] <th0r> janof: revoking doesn't actually "take it back". The old key is still out there, but marked as revoked. And yes, that would be how you handle it, revoke the old one and create a new key pair
[01:41] <sesshomaru> hey, I'm running 12.04 and I'm looking for an IBM 5250 terminal emulator, and so far the only package I found was for lucid.
[01:49] <elisa87>  can I install Windows 8 after I have installed Ubuntu?
[01:49] <vfw> sesshomaru:  tn5250
[01:49] <dr_willis> best to install windows first.
[01:49] <dr_willis> bestest  put both on their own hard drive  B-)
[01:50] <dr_willis> less fighting with grub that way
[01:50] <EDocToor> dr_willis, If one would put both on their own hard drive.. where would the grub be located
[01:51] <EDocToor> or be put
[01:51] <dr_willis> either hd.. or both..
[01:51] <dr_willis> I keep it on the linyx hd.
[01:51] <naryfa> dr_willis: I agree with the hard drives, I've always done it this way
[01:51] <EDocToor> wouldn't it be best to put the grub on the linux
[01:51] <dr_willis> that way windows is totally untouched
[01:51] <EDocToor> one.. in case you remove the linix drive
[01:52] <EDocToor> that way winddows is totally untouched
[01:52] <dr_willis> ive seen people keep grub on a external usb  as a "security" feature
[01:53] <dr_willis> grub is flexible
[01:53] <naryfa> well, use another thumb drive and you boot it, where's the security
[01:53] <EDocToor> Understood.. the grub is flexible... I am wrong
[01:53] <EDocToor> the grub must be on the WINDOWS drive
[01:54] <EDocToor> because if you remove the linix drive with the grub on it.. the grub won't
[01:54] <EDocToor> be there to load windows
[01:54] <EDocToor> is that right
[01:55] <EDocToor> naryfa, YOUR OBviously correct
[01:55] <dr_willis> with 2 hds.. no
[01:55] <dr_willis> gurb and linux can stay on its iwn hd
[01:55] <dr_willis> the windows bootloader stays on the windows hd.
[01:55] <RoDiMuS-X> How does Grub work with UEFI?
[01:56] <vfw> !uefi |
[01:56] <EDocToor> dr_willis, what happens if you remove the linux hard drive with the grub on the Linux drive?
[01:56] <EDocToor> will windows work
[01:56] <SpaceManiac> Gah....
[01:59] <msdaisy> EDocToor: you understand that grub is in the boot sector, it runs before windows or ubuntu. right?
[01:59] <SpaceManiac> The darn thing won't boot into recovery mode
[02:02] <EDocToor> elisa87, I would remove the Ubuntu drive.. and put in a new drive for Windows 8 to be installed on... after the install; put back the Ubuntu drive.. and recreate the grub on the WINDOWS drive.. therefore if you remove the UBUNTU drive the Grub.. will still BE on your computer and it will be able to find WINDOWS... Less headache that way... in my opinion..
[02:02] <sesshomaru> hey, I'm running 12.04 and I'm looking for an IBM 5250 terminal emulator, and so far the only package I found was for lucid.
[02:03] <exogen> hello, my kernel load only one cpu but I have two. Can I load the second at runtime?
[02:03] <exogen> normal loads two CPUs but after last reboot was only one loaded. Don't know why.
[02:03] <dr_willis> EDocToor: windows boots normally then. its untouched
[02:04] <dr_willis> with a dual hd system. keep grub on the linux hd.
[02:05] <vfw> sesshomaru:  tn5250
[02:05] <dr_willis> !info tn5250
 with a dual hd system. keep grub on the linux hd. ... This didn't work for me in the past.. Thanks for the update
[02:05] <dr_willis> !find  tn5250
[02:06] <dr_willis> EDocToor:  worked for me for years..
[02:06] <EDocToor> dr_willis
[02:06] <dr_willis> bios boots the linuc hd.. grub can then boot the windows hd.
[02:06] <SpaceManiac> Well rebooting fixed it somehoe
[02:06] <EDocToor> your an expert.. but
[02:06] <sesshomaru> thats the issue, is there another package thats compatible?  All I see is a 3270 emulator, but I don't want a printer emulation.
[02:06] <dr_willis> remove linux hd.. windows boots first with its normal bootloader
[02:07] <EDocToor> dr_willis, good to know
[02:07] <EDocToor> thanks
[02:08] <vfw> dr_willis: sesshomaru http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man1/tn5250.1.html#contenttoc4
[02:09] <ditchwindows> any difference between WUBI and installing linux with an USB?
[02:09] <EDocToor> dr_willis, one more related question... ONE hard drive with XP pro.. and Ubuntu partitioned... where do you put the GRUB
[02:09] <SpaceManiac> Any recommendations for USB wifi adapters for ubuntu?
[02:09] <utusan> put in primary bot HD
[02:09] <utusan> boot*
[02:09] <psusi> ditchwindows, yes, Wubi installs the system in a file inside the Windows partition... not recommended
[02:10] <utusan> netgear or linksys
[02:11] <EDocToor> utusan, thanks...
[02:11] <ditchwindows> psusi: i am currently running Win7, i would prefer to have dual boot, if i install ubuntu onto another partition will i have to recover the grub? or will it recognize that i have both and create the boot menu for both?
[02:11] <dr_willis> EDocToor: only place it could go normally.. the mbr of the hd.
[02:11] <sesshomaru> ditchwindows: That's generally how it goes
[02:11] <chrisirc> I'm trying to help a singer use Ubuntu. He's got a lot of music (mp3, wma, some wav), and I wonder how to help him best organize that.
[02:11] <psusi> ditchwindows, if you install Ubuntu after windows, it will recognize Windows and add an entry to boot it to the grub menu
[02:12] <dr_willis> SpaceManiac:  i read reviews in amazon to see whats ines worked with no hassles.  ;-)
[02:12] <vfw> chrisirc: Only he can organize his files.
[02:13] <ignore_me> ditchwindows: Willl usually work unless you have the damnable software raid. It locks onto windows, hard.
[02:13] <chrisirc> I'm pretty firm on "organize things in the filesystem", but not being a music collector myself, I haven't had to deal with lots of songs. Also, he's not a very advanced computer user, plus handling files in Ubuntu's file manager isn't perfect, etc.
[02:13] <EDocToor> ditchwindows, Ubuntu is so easy to install after windows... the updated grub will include windows... but it will default to loading ubuntu.. if your not there to select windows
[02:14] <chrisirc> vfw, I'm looking for tips on tools to support that
[02:14] <chrisirc> or approaches.
[02:14] <chrisirc> Someone who's done it.
[02:14] <chrisirc> *from
[02:15] <utusan> chrisirc: try kubuntu/amarok/nepomuk
[02:16] <utusan> EDocToor: you can change default in grub
[02:16] <msdaisy> psusi: you can run sudo update-grub to... update grub after the installation.
[02:17] <vfw> chrisirc: Put them all in one directory.
[02:17] <DreamPCs> Hey guys, quick question. Can I use dd to put a Windows ISO on a flash drive?
[02:18] <msdaisy> DreamPCs: if it's an exact copy then it should be bootable, right?
[02:19] <SpaceManiac> What does it mean when apt-get upgrade says linux-generic is 'held back'?
[02:19] <chrisirc> utusan, why kubuntu? I can't find nepomuk; thanks for the hint on amarok, are you using it with a big collection?
[02:19] <DreamPCs> I'd imagine so, I just didn't know if dd was for linux distros or if it works univerally.
[02:19] <DreamPCs> *universally
[02:20] <dr_willis> dd for an windows iso.. depends on the windows version also
[02:20] <DreamPCs> XP? SP3?
[02:20] <dr_willis> #windows should know what ones work
[02:20] <dr_willis> xp i would say no.
[02:20] <dr_willis> win7 might. ive heard win8 does
[02:21] <DreamPCs> Ok, cool, thanks for the info.
[02:21] <utusan> chrisirc: amarok is the front end/music player but uses nepomuk and/or strigi for indexing
[02:21] <chrisirc> vfw, and I told you that the file manager in Ubuntu isn't the best?
[02:21] <dr_willis> SpaceManiac:  try 'sudp apt-get dist-upgrade'
[02:21] <vfw> chrisirc: Chose another
[02:21] <dr_willis> sudo
[02:21] <chrisirc> vfw, and that he's not very savvy?
[02:22] <vfw> chrisirc: I use thunar
[02:22] <dr_willis> nautilus does a decent job.
[02:22] <dr_willis> depends on what your needs are, as to what alternatives are better
[02:22] <chrisirc> good luck with some 5000 music files that way, and wanting to find things, tagging, grouping in various ways.
[02:23] <chrisirc> As I said it clearly seems that the fs without specialized assistance is *not* the way to go.
[02:23] <vfw> chrisirc: So, how does he do it now?
[02:23] <utusan> DreamPCs: if you want to copy the contents of an iso to usb, I think you need to mount it with the loop option
[02:23] <vfw> chrisirc: Again, only he can organize his files.
[02:23] <chrisirc> What are you trying to say?
[02:24] <chrisirc> You're making me angry.
[02:24] <dr_willis> copying the CONTENTS of an iso to usb will definatly not make a bootable usb
[02:24] <ignore_me> Can mediatomb serve files to a ps3?
[02:24] <dr_willis> ignore_me:  i think so.     most dlna servers can
[02:24] <dr_willis> or have options for ps3
[02:24] <dr_willis> which may need enabled
[02:25] <vfw> chrisirc: Place them all in the same directory and use search optons to find what you want.  If the files are named appropriately, you'll find them.  Not much more to it than that.
[02:25] <Guest18299> dr_willis: is there a screen saver incluced in 13.04 or do i need to get one
[02:25] <ignore_me> Hmm. Must be something weird in the config file. Didn't really want to use ps3 media server, uses java.
[02:25] <dr_willis> Guest18299:  never noticed one.. nedeer needed one why to you 'need' one.. there are some in the repos
[02:26] <dr_willis> ignore_me:  i recall ushare and minidlna having ps3 options in their configs
[02:26] <Guest18299> dr_willis: i just have the memory of a dudes laptop screen had an image burned into it
[02:26] <dr_willis> !info xscreensaver
[02:27] <dr_willis> Guest18299:  thats why we have auto-monitor off settings
[02:27] <sere> ignore_me: yea believe so.. my favorite is minidlna server.. pretty straight forward
[02:27] <chrisirc> Thanks, utusan.
[02:27] <Guest18299> dr_willis: so what screen don't need screen savers for that purpose anymore, they are just a privicy thing now
[02:27] <Guest18299> dr_willis: is that in display in seattings
[02:27] <Guest18299> *settngs
[02:28] <dr_willis> more of a power/energy saveing thing these days
[02:28] <dr_willis> look and see.. im not on a ubuntu box
[02:28] <utusan> chrisirc: I think amarok is worth checking into.  It has options to use mysql for your database
[02:29] <ignore_me> sere: Thanks. Didn't see those. Tried mediatomb and rygel. Both were duds, although they worked on older installs
[02:29] <Guest18299> well i had my lappy on last night and i came back this morning, after a fresh install and my mouse wouldn't respond so i don't know if there is a sleep someware thats causing the harddive to sleep and not wake
[02:29] <Guest18299> or the mouse to just stop responding
[02:30] <dr_willis> suspend/hibernate can cause issues on some hardware.
[02:30] <dr_willis> reboot and see if thr mouse works, suspeend
[02:30] <sere> is there a good light weight media player.. i have been bouncing back and forth between rhythmbox and banshee but they so much memory
[02:30] <dr_willis> then resume and see if it stops
[02:30] <dr_willis> sere:  depends on your needs
[02:31] <jrib> sere: try mplayer I guess.  Why do you need lightweight?
[02:31] <ignore_me> sere: Parole for video or gmusicbrowser.
[02:31] <dr_willis> theres a huge varity os music players in the repos
[02:32] <sere> ignore_me: yea i know what you mean.. xbmc is another good one, but its so heavy
[02:32] <dr_willis> plex - is an interesting alternative to xbmc
[02:32] <ignore_me> dr_willis: Yeah, too many. lol Just need one great one - videos, audio, podcast, streams, purchases, device sync. The works.
[02:32] <dr_willis> xbmc runs on my raspberry pi. ;) so ita not heavy.. considering what it does.
[02:33] <Guest18299> ok, so removing suspend on power man, and well see  how that does
[02:33] <sere> dr_willis, jrib, ignore_me : im using an acer mini with 1gb. :x
[02:33] <bazhang> !info audacious | sere
[02:33] <profiler1982> elementary files has problem. crash with custom theme. only with default elementary theme works
[02:33] <dr_willis> !info mpd
[02:34] <depesto> hi
[02:34] <dr_willis> profiler1982:  you may want to check its support/web page/site . since itsa not part of the normal ubuntu repos
[02:34] <ignore_me> sere: run xubuntu on a 5y/old netbook. Runs well with those two options.
[02:35] <depesto> im having a wierd issue installing 13.10
[02:35] <profiler1982> am know. am see then some people not know what is the problem yet
[02:35] <bazhang> !13.10 | depesto
[02:35] <ignore_me> sere: Even xbmc runs fine on it. Don't use full time yet, need the dlna server. lol
[02:35] <depesto> yea
[02:35] <sere> bazhang: i like audacious but its more of a playlist media player.. i like how rhythmbox and banshee can watch your library and has the artist/album views
[02:35] <bazhang> sere, thats not light then
[02:36] <EDocToor> Ok, dr_willis .. I just reinstalled Ubuntu 12.04 a second time using ReUse sda3 and I get msg: Gave up waiting for root device... Aleart.. dev/disk/by-uuid/06396d6d50..... does not exits. and a (initramfs) Prompted... What do I do?
[02:36] <dr_willis> ignore_me:  xbmc can work as a dlna server also ya know
[02:36] <bazhang> depesto, dont ask here about 13.10 it s #ubuntu+1
[02:36] <depesto> ok
[02:36] <sere> bazhang: thats what i was afraid of :x
[02:37] <dr_willis> EDocToor:  try the boot-repair tool from a live cd/usb, and make sure you are booting the right hd first in bios
[02:38] <EDocToor> only one hard drive
[02:38] <dr_willis> then try boot-repair
[02:38] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[02:38] <ignore_me> dr_willis: Just started using it so haven't explored it completely. Netbook running xbmc needs to connect to desktop with the files I need. Sharing sucks on xubuntu so was looking for server to run on desktop to feed xbmc.
[02:38] <EDocToor> where is the boot repair option//tool
[02:38] <EDocToor> link
[02:38] <dr_willis> ignore_me:  xbmc on pc1 can use dlna to xbmc on pc2
[02:39] <dr_willis> ignore_me:  i dont  use samba shares for my videos these days
[02:39] <sere> ignore_me: im on lubuntu with fluxbox as my window manager
[02:40] <dr_willis> plex can work as a dlna server in the background also
[02:41] <ignore_me> dr_willis: Gonna try xbmc now. Samba - bah. One of these days we'll get a great out of the box experience.
[02:41] <dr_willis> samba is not even consideed worth installing by default
[02:41] <dr_willis> ;)
[02:42] <sh_t> hi everyone. I am new to building packages and trying to build my own nginx deb. My understanding is that deb-buildpackage uses the debian/rules file as the Makefile to build the package.. however when I run deb-buildpackage -rfakeroot it's not actually compiling my already ./configure'd source, and the package is built containing only a /usr/share/doc folder within it and no binaries. Any
[02:42] <sh_t> suggestions on what could be wrong herE?
[02:42] <dr_willis> i basically use plex for things these days
[02:43]  * sere hides while removing samba
[02:43] <ignore_me> sere: Sounds speedy. I've tried lu in the past, blazing fast, needed more polish. Really dig xubuntu.Voyager on another box for testing. Precise on a third box.
[02:45] <sere> ignore_me: i have a dell mini right now im working on and think i will put xubuntu .. it does look sexy :p
[02:49] <ignore_me> sere: Oh yeah. Can't beat some built-in compositing while still remaining lightweight. Flat out gorgeous with a tiny bit of work.
[02:54] <Linuxuser> Hi. My suspend mode is broken in Xubuntu. It also was like this in Ubuntu. Whenever i suspend I go to this black screen with some error messages and I have to shutdown and power back on
[02:55] <bazhang> how much ram Linuxuser , how much for swap
[02:57] <dr_willis> check the forums and askubuntu.com for your exact hardware also Linuxuser . your  swap does need to be equal to ram plus a bit more. i recall
[02:57] <bazhang> and give us the exact errors Linuxuser ------> paste.ubuntu.com and give us the URL
[02:57] <Linuxuser> how do I check swap? I have only 2gb of ram on the computer
[02:58] <dr_willis> some hardware may need special boot options to suspend and resume properly
[02:58] <arooni-mobile> hey folks after making a change to my hosts file, im trying to run: "/etc/init.d/networking restart"... but when i do; unity seems to crash.  any ideas on how to do this differently?
[02:58] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile: what are you changeing
[02:58] <Linuxuser> would I need to edit some files?
[02:59] <arooni-mobile> dr_willis, adding sites to redirect to localhost
[02:59] <Linuxuser> how do I find how much ram and swap I have?
[02:59] <dr_willis> Linuxuser:   the    free command  shows swap
[02:59] <EDocToor> apt-get install qparted
[03:00] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile:  i dont recall needing to restart networkung for that
[03:00] <Linuxuser> it says i have 1963004 free
[03:00] <arooni-mobile> dr_willis, ahh really?
[03:00] <dr_willis> try a ping test and see.
[03:00] <Linuxuser> ?
[03:01] <arooni-mobile> dr_willis, i made changes to the /etc/hosts file... and yet those sites are still resolving
[03:01] <EDocToor> Linuxuser, I use the HBCD 15.2 live disk
[03:01] <dr_willis> !swap
[03:01] <EDocToor> has tons of tools on it Linuxuser
[03:01] <dr_willis> arooni-mobile:  i dont recall needing to
[03:02] <arooni-mobile> dr_willis, must the istes to resolve to 127.0.0.1 be above all other parts of the hosts files?
[03:02] <Linuxuser> the free command isn't really good
[03:02] <Linuxuser> I converted it to gigs and ti says I only have total 1 MEM
[03:03] <vfw> Linuxuser: 1 MEM ?
[03:03] <ditchwindows> a mem stick?
[03:04] <dr_willis> free shows a lot if info
[03:04] <Linuxuser> ? I'm trying to figure out how much ram
[03:04] <dr_willis> it has a line  labled   swap
[03:05] <dr_willis> free -h    for numbers in mb. i think
[03:05] <vfw> Linuxuser: Pretty obvious, isn't it?
[03:05] <berderquentin> Hi everybody, I have an issue with the setup of my LVM, when I want to mount back I get "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on". Thoughts?
[03:06] <berderquentin> I put all the information https://hackpad.com/My-issue-with-LVM-setup-ZTCnumSssaB
[03:06] <Linuxuser> dr_willis yeah I know. I did free -g and it said only 1
[03:06] <vfw> Linuxuser: You can also look at /proc/meminfo
[03:07] <dr_willis> Linuxuser:  so? it rounded to the nearest gb
[03:07] <Linuxuser> Oh
[03:07] <dr_willis> cat /proc/swaps    shows swap partitions
[03:15] <EDocToor> My girlfriends says .. Her or my Ubuntu!!! What is the nice Ubuntu way of letting her go?
[03:15] <seronis> sudo apt-get remove gf
[03:15] <sere> :)
[03:15] <EDocToor> ha ha
[03:16] <seronis> oh..   s/remove/purge   you dont want her leaving her makeup and bras at your place
[03:16] <Myrtti> guys
[03:16] <Myrtti> !offtopic
[03:16] <bazhang> !ot | EDocToor
[03:17] <EDocToor> The topic was Ubuntu... and a choice
[03:17] <EDocToor> OMG
[03:17] <bazhang> EDocToor, its not for here. take it elsewhere
[03:20] <EDocToor> I am Re-installing a third time.. this time I deleted the sda3 partition..
[03:20] <citric> Is there a way to make it so when you are charging your laptop the brightness goes up and if you are unplugged it drops down automatically, instead of doing it manually?
[03:23] <elisa87> histo: do you know how I can umount /mnt/mount_x86 ? it says it
[03:23] <elisa87> histo http://paste.ubuntu.com/5766670/
[03:27] <Grivvel> Hello! When I attempt to ssh to my ubuntu box via the ip address I get one host key (an ssh-rsa key), but when I attempt to ssh to it via my domain name, I get a different host key (ecdsa-sha2-nistp256 key) and my client machine complains about the difference. Does anyone know why I might be seeing these two different keys?
[03:28] <Grivvel> I checked with nslookup and it appears that the domain name *is* tied to the correct ip address
[03:28] <jrib> Grivvel: and you're sure it's the same machine?
[03:29] <Grivvel> jrib: If the ip address given from nslookup is the same, is it possible that it's actually connecting to a different machine? My credentials work, but could there be a mitm?
[03:29] <Grivvel> It seems a little weird that a mitm would only intercept by domain but not by ip address
[03:30] <jrib> Grivvel: can you verify you actually connect to the same machine?
[03:30] <elisa87> jrib umount: /mnt/mount_x86: device is busy.         (In some cases useful info about processes that use          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))  do you know why I can't umount it?
[03:30] <Grivvel> jrib: How would I do that?
[03:30] <jrib> Grivvel: you could log in and look around
[03:31] <Grivvel> jrib: Yeah, it's definitely the same machine
[03:31] <jrib> elisa87: might you have a terminal open whose cwd is inside its mount point?
[03:31] <jrib> Grivvel: how do you know?
[03:31] <Grivvel> jrib: Exact same file system.
[03:31] <jrib> Grivvel: and it's not vanilla?
[03:32] <Grivvel> jrib: There are a couple empty directories
[03:32] <elisa87> jrib: no that's the only terminal and the only tab in terminal I have now http://paste.ubuntu.com/5766688/
[03:32] <Grivvel> Other than that, should be vanilla
[03:33] <jrib> Grivvel: you're probably just seeing proper ssh behavior (my guess).  I don't know offhand the details of how host keys are setup, but if no one here can help, try #openssh
[03:33] <Grivvel> jrib: Will do, thanks!
[03:34] <EDocToor> jrib, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[03:34] <jrib> EDocToor: what am I looking for?
[03:35] <elisa87> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5766692/ do you think if it's safe to kill those processes jrib?
[03:36] <EDocToor> jrib, The very first line ssh-keygen -t dsa ... read what it does.. It might be what your looking for
[03:36] <elisa87> jrib I binded proc to /mnt/mount_x86/proc ...can I unbind it by any command?
[03:36] <jrib> EDocToor: thanks but that's not exactly what's going on here
[03:36] <EDocToor> jrib, Ok,, my bad
[03:37] <jrib> elisa87: should be able to umount as usual I believe
[03:38] <elisa87> omg by mistake I kill gnome-set! :|
[03:39] <elisa87> gnome-settings-daemon this fixed it
[03:39] <jeremiah_> Is it possible to root /home into a separate partition, that windows can view/read/write to?
[03:40] <trism> elisa87: I think the issue is you didn't mount /proc/ to mount_x86/proc, you mounted it to mount_x86/ and then mounted /sys/ inside there
[03:40] <trism> elisa87: try umount /mnt/mount_x86/sys/; first then try to umount /mnt/mount_x86/
[03:40] <elisa87> trism I mounted /proc to /mnt/mount_x86/proc is it wrong? the same with dev and sys
[03:41] <trism> elisa87: your pastebin says otherwise
[03:41] <jeremiah_> Is it possible to root /home into a separate partition, that windows can view/read/write to?
[03:42] <citric> jeremiah_, why would you want to do that?
[03:42] <elisa87> trism you are right before umounting /mnt/mount_x86 I should have umounted /mnt/mount_x86/dev and sys and proc
[03:42] <EDocToor> Yes... the third install was successful.. I had to QParted and delete partition before I was able to re-install.. I guess there was a previously corrupted partition and Ubuntu refused to install on it... Thanks guys.. I have now successfully installed Ubuntu 12.04
[03:42] <elisa87> it worked now thanks trism
[03:42] <jeremiah_> citric,  Duel boot, and i want all my info to be able to be viewed from both oses
[03:42] <citric> jeremiah_, /home CAN be a seperate partition.
[03:43] <jeremiah_> citric,  I realize. But can it be viewed from windows as well?
[03:43] <citric> jeremiah_, yes.
[03:44] <citric> jeremiah_, you will need an application to view the partition, for example, Ext2Explorer
[03:44] <citric> jeremiah_, google.
[03:44] <jeremiah_> citric,  In windows or ubuntu?
[03:44] <citric> ...
[03:45] <citric> jeremiah_, what you are asking is very basic, please search google.
[03:45] <jeremiah_> I'll google it....
[03:45] <EDocToor> Is Ext2Explorer a windows application
[03:45] <jeremiah_> EDocToor,  Thank you.
[03:45] <citric> EDocToor, no, Ext2Explorer is used to read Ext2 partitions while you are in the Ext2 partition.
[03:47] <EDocToor> jeremiah_, does that mean that your /home on separate partition has to be formatted as EXT2 during the install.. or is EXT2 the default format
[03:47] <sesshomaru> isnt it ext4 now?
[03:47] <citric> Ext4 is the default, yes
[03:48] <sesshomaru> ok, because I see ext2 and the last time I implemented ext2 was on my 486
[03:48] <mp19uy> I have a question related to environment variables: I want to be able to write ¨sublime_text¨ on console and open SublimeText2 instead of writing the full path. I know that there are 2 methods to do this, I could edit the environment variable PATH and add sublime_text path, but I also saw that another way to do the same is creating a symbolic link to sublime_text and placing it in /usr/bin. My question is, is one of these be
[03:48] <mp19uy> tter than the other or it is exactly the same and both are ¨correct¨ ways of doing what I want to do?
[03:48] <citric> sesshomaru, that doesn't mean much, I was just on my 486 today :)
[03:49] <sesshomaru> citric: SX or DX?  I've got a 486SX/33 in my laptop
[03:49] <citric> SX
[03:49] <kostkon> mp19uy, or create an alias? do you think it would work?
[03:49] <citric> brb TIME FOR PUDDING
[03:49] <sesshomaru> citric: Very reliable machines
[03:50] <EDocToor> sesshomaru, so not the best method... better is to make a separate partition... just for "share" format it as EXT2 ... that way your normal /home isn't outdated
[03:50] <sesshomaru> ahh
[03:52] <mp19uy> kostkon, I do not know what alias are but I am reading about it now.  I got both ideas from this: http://bit.ly/IH7OPo and this http://askubuntu.com/questions/141718/what-is-path-environment-variable-and-how-to-add-it
[03:55] <EDocToor> mp19uy, $ env
[03:55] <EDocToor> to see list of vars
[03:56] <EDocToor> Creating a var... depends on why you are creating it
[03:57] <EDocToor> mp19uy, to see a var $ echo $var_name
[03:58] <mp19uy> My idea is to modify the PATH var, is for a compiler of modula-2
[03:59] <mp19uy> it has some commands like xc,xd,xcwork... and I want to be able to use these commands
[04:01] <mp19uy> but also, I was willing to be able to write in console ¨sublime_text¨ or st2 or something like that to open the text editor sublime text 2
[04:02] <EDocToor> mp19uy, the PATH var gets loaded from many places.. hopefully some here can tell you the best place to edit the PATH=;;;;your_new_path
[04:02] <EDocToor> I don't want to give you bad advice
[04:03] <sethj> Isn't it supposed to be in ~/.profile?
[04:04] <EDocToor> I thought so.. but to see it cd ~   then ls -a
[04:04] <EDocToor> not sure
[04:04] <EDocToor> I looked and my .profile does not have a PATH statement
[04:05] <sethj> Hm.
[04:05] <mp19uy> ok, I mean, my problem is not about how to edit the path var, that is something I can google for sure, what I want to know if it is a ¨good practice¨ adding/modifying env vars when I want to do this kind of thing or is better to create symbolic links and place them in /usr/bin.
[04:05] <EDocToor> so I don't think so
[04:05] <tsimpson> ~/.profile is the correct place
[04:06] <sethj> EDocToor: Mine has a PATH statement...
[04:06] <sethj> tsimpson: Thanks.
[04:06] <EDocToor> tsimpson, and he would add the line ::: PATH=$PATH;/usr/path;
[04:06] <Linuxuser> Hey. I just set my computer to boot into the command line but i noticed when I did, the first letter of the first words on the left of the screen were getting cut off. How do I fix this?
[04:06] <EDocToor> to add his path?
[04:07] <tsimpson> "PATH=/whatever:$PATH" or "PATH=$PATH:/whatever"
[04:07] <tsimpson> : is the separator character
[04:07] <tr0n> set ur terminal
[04:07] <Linuxuser> ?
[04:07] <sethj> mp19guy: Personally I think there ins't much difference between the to methods...
[04:07] <tr0n> set env term=vt100 or whatever
[04:08] <tr0n> umm dont irc as root
[04:08] <tr0n> add a user
[04:10] <Linuxuser> what?
[04:10] <Linuxuser> don't irc as root?
[04:10] <tr0n> its lame and a security risk
[04:10] <dr_willis> Linuxuser:  disable the framebuffer if its in use, or try messing with the fbset command to shift the dispaly to the right if you want the framebuffer
[04:10] <Linuxuser> tr0n i don't know what your talking about?
[04:10] <dr_willis> !text
[04:11] <tr0n> not u
[04:11] <mp19uy> sethj: ok, I was asking because maybe is frowned upon one of these ¨methods¨ like in programming when doing something in one way is better and more effective than in other.
[04:11] <Linuxuser> dr_willis that doesn't work for me. That gives me some other stuff. What i'm doing is editing /etc/default/grub
[04:12] <dr_willis> what exactly dosent work..  that grub config file has an option i recall to ser grub to use a non graphical menu
[04:13] <elisa87> trism:  Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,     ...1)  (Do you know why my mounted disk image doesn't work fine?)
[04:14] <EDocToor> Easy Question: Ubuntu keeps going to sleep.. and I keep typing in my password.. is there a way to make it stay awake for a hour before it .. causes me to type in a password
[04:14] <tr0n> in your system settings
[04:14] <trism> elisa87: I do not
[04:14] <tr0n> under brightness & lock
[04:14] <dr_willis> it has a 'lock' feature in the settings where you can tweak or disable the password needed i recall
[04:15] <EDocToor> tr0n, thanks
[04:15] <tr0n> np
[04:15] <sh_t> hi everyone. I am new to building packages and trying to build my own nginx deb. My understanding is that deb-buildpackage uses the debian/rules file as the Makefile to build the package.. however when I run deb-buildpackage -rfakeroot it's not actually compiling my already ./configure'd source, and the package is built containing only a /usr/share/doc folder within it and no binaries. Any
[04:15] <sh_t> suggestions on what could be wrong herE?
[04:16] <EDocToor> tr0n, wow.. that has been bugging me forEVER.. thanks
[04:16] <tr0n> ;)
[04:21] <Linuxuser> dr_willis: how does going to grub help me? I want to log on via CLI
[04:23] <dr_willis> grub has options to disable the framebuffer
[04:23] <dr_willis> and its text mode
[04:23] <Linuxuser> permanently?
[04:23] <dr_willis> option
[04:23] <Linuxuser> what's that?
[04:23] <dr_willis> !text
[04:24] <Linuxuser> ?
[04:25] <dr_willis> 'noquiet nofb text nodplash’ are the grub options ive used in the past
[04:25] <dr_willis> nosplash
[04:25] <Linuxuser> what's the difference of doing that and editing /etc/default/grub?
[04:25] <bazhang> !nox | Linuxuser
[04:25] <evilroots> i need drivers for my card. gtx 560 ti
[04:26] <evilroots> help?
[04:26] <tr0n> go to the manufactures website
[04:26] <dr_willis> install them with the addational-drivers tool¿
[04:27] <Linuxuser> dr_willis I already boot to a grub menu without pressing anything
[04:27] <evilroots> that doesnt show any
[04:27] <dr_willis> dont use the ones from nvidia.com if you dint have to
[04:27] <Linuxuser> dr_willis well a splash screen
[04:27] <Linuxuser> that allows me to access grub
[04:27] <evilroots> what commands do i need.
[04:27] <dr_willis> Linuxuser:  these are options you give to grub to affect how the system boots
[04:29] <xormor> I am happy with xubuntu 13.04 :)
[04:30] <Linuxuser> dr_willis those commands didn't work
[04:30] <dr_willis> what did it do differently and how did you use them.
[04:31] <Linuxuser> i booted to grub. typed "text" no luck typed "nosplash" no luck
[04:31] <tones> xormor, I couldnt get xubuntu to boot from usb, kept asking me for a password/login
[04:31] <dr_willis> Linuxuser:  those are optons you pass to grub.. not commands you enter at the grub shell
[04:31] <Linuxuser> i have to go. later
[04:31] <dr_willis> Linuxuser:  you can set them in /etc/default/grub also
[04:33] <xormor> tones: try root, enter and root, root.
[04:34] <tones> didn't try that combo
[04:35] <tones> xormor, did you stick with xfce?
[04:35] <dr_willis> there is no root  password by default. the live cd has a user called 'ubuntu' with the password 'ubuntu' i recall
[04:35] <xormor> tones: I think so. how do I see if this is using xfce?
[04:36] <jrib> dr_willis: password should be blank unless that's changed in the last couple of releases
[04:36] <tones> it looks like mini windows
[04:36] <xormor> tones: yes, this is version 4.10.
[04:36] <jrib> 4.10 :x
[04:36] <dr_willis> only time ive seen people need the password on live cd.. was when it wass a bad burn. ;) or currupted iso
[04:36] <xormor> tones: the laptop is not hot enough to turn itself off automatically right now.
[04:37] <dr_willis> so you may be right
[04:37] <xormor> jrib: should I update with apt-get upgrade?
[04:37] <tones> dr_willis, I tried several disk downloads and still kept asking for login/pwd
[04:37] <jrib> xormor: I don't know what we are talking about
[04:37] <dr_willis> tones:  you did verify the md5? how ae you making the usb?
[04:38] <tones> xormor, if I can get it to work, I'll probably use gnome
[04:39] <tones> dr_willis, made usbs both from unetbootin direct download and iso image from desktop download
[04:39] <tones> both needed login/pwd
[04:39] <dr_willis> i would try tools from pendrivelinux, verify the md5sums
[04:39] <dr_willis> and not use unetbootin
[04:40] <tones> which specific tool from pendrivelinux is easiest
[04:40] <linuxuz3r> i got an ubuntu issue after running flash for a while in firefox gnome shutsdown automatically
[04:40] <tones> for a single iso download
[04:40] <linuxuz3r> does anyone have experienced this with ubuntu
[04:41] <dr_willis> linuxuz3r:  flash causing problems = common issue
[04:42] <linuxuz3r> should i upgrade flash
[04:42] <dr_willis> with no common fixs
[04:42] <linuxuz3r> oh
[04:42] <dr_willis> upgrade? what version of flash are you using?
[04:42] <linuxuz3r> i cant say cause im back on os x
[04:42] <dr_willis> adobe hasent updated flash on linux  in some time i think...
[04:43] <linuxuz3r> dr_willis, even in chrome
[04:43] <linuxuz3r> chrome has its own flash player right
[04:43] <dr_willis> google chrome has its own different flash
[04:43] <dr_willis> called pepper somthing
[04:43] <linuxuz3r> it might be ubuntu
[04:44] <linuxuz3r> checking the problem now
[04:48] <linuxuz3r> im back
[04:48] <linuxuz3r> lets see if it would hang
[04:57] <ntzrmtthihu777> anyone else here having issue with installing/upgrading to wine1.6?
[04:57] <husnainlatif> nope
[04:57] <elisa87> how can I create a disk image which when I mount it on /mnt/linux_x86 has these folders? backprop  bin  boot  dev  etc  home  lib  lib32  lib64  lost+found   media  mnt  opt  proc  rodinia  root  run  sbin  selinux  srv  sys  tmp   usr  var
[04:59] <ntzrmtthihu777> I was without a connection for 4 days, just did an apt-get update&upgrade, it hangs on wine1.6, suggests running apt-get -f install, but that does not do it either.
[05:01] <optimusprimem> hello, my hd no it is listed in /media is a IDE and the gparted not listed how I can ?
[05:01] <husnainlatif> LIP, are you a ubuntu user?
[05:02] <LIP> no
[05:02] <husnainlatif> linux?
[05:03] <LIP> yes
[05:03] <husnainlatif> what flavour :P?
[05:03] <LIP> and a BSD, and a OSX
[05:04] <LIP> but eaxactly which, as it isn't Ubuntu, isn't as applicable in here, it could lead to flame wars ;)
[05:04] <tr0n> yea especially when u admit to running O$X
[05:04] <ntzrmtthihu777> lol
[05:04] <LIP> I have the Mac so I can check development on it
[05:05] <LIP> not as my primary ;)
[05:05] <ntzrmtthihu777> hey, I need someone to assist in my project running on mac osx
[05:05] <husnainlatif> i wanna see ur mac desktop :p
[05:05] <husnainlatif> i've never seen one before
[05:05] <LIP> and I don't want to share it, google image search is good enough for what it looks like
[05:05] <tr0n> lots of em on 4chan /g
[05:19] <ShawnMcCool> i have a collection of games and i'd like to have a drawer or something to keep them in, but the unity dock doesn't seem to support drawers or something. any suggestions?
[05:21] <husnainlatif> ShawnMcCool,  what kinda games :p ?
[05:21] <xormor> I like programming small programs.
[05:22] <ShawnMcCool> Scrolls by Mojang, Game Dev Tycoon and some other stuff not in steam or desura
[05:24] <thunder1212> hi
[05:25] <thunder1212> I am using ubuntu12.04, is there any way i can get the latest kernel with automatic updates?
[05:26] <linuxuz3r> thunder1212, why do you want the lastest kernel?
[05:27] <thunder1212> linuxuz3r: i don;t know why, but i want it:)
[05:29] <linuxuz3r> thunder1212, http://askubuntu.com/questions/187502/how-do-i-use-apt-get-to-update-to-the-latest-kernel
[05:29] <mapleray> hello?
[05:30] <ShawnMcCool> *echo* hello? hello? hello?
[05:33] <digs> Why are these packages not upgradeing? http://codepad.org/IBr2CXd7
[05:34] <thunder1212> linuxuz3r: but with this i will just get the kernel which is there in the repos, which is already what i am using. I want 3.9.6 latest stable..
[05:34] <digs> I ran apt-get update before all of that too.
[05:34] <thunder1212> linuxuz3r: https://www.kernel.org/
[05:35] <wolter> Hi, I'm having problems with my shutdown, my computer doesn't shut down
[05:35] <wolter> I read something about using stop and service commands on S15networking, but I don't know what to do
[05:36] <tr0n> do a kill -9 -1 as root
[05:40] <Afggh> Hi all
[05:41] <Afggh> What is ubuntu alternative for darmon tools?
[05:50] <zykotick9> digs: you need to use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in order to get NEW packages, like the kernel updates...
[05:54] <EDocToor> Will samba share files between two a ubuntu-server and a ubuntu box?
[05:59] <digs> zykotick9, thanks.
[06:02] <husnainlatif> any ubuntu devs around?
[06:03] <nebulos> watsup
[06:04] <akurilin> Quick question: does changing the hostname of a machine has the chance of making it potentially unreachable on the network? For example, will I be sad if I change the hostname of an EC2 instance?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> akurilin: maybe the guys from ##networking know?
[06:08] <wolter> tr0n, hm I was looking more of a way of solving the problem
[06:08] <akurilin> lotuspsychje, okie dokie.
[06:09] <tr0n> shutdown not working?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> akurilin: or re-ask your question here once in a while :p, or #ubuntu-server might know aswell maybe?
[06:11] <thunder1212> latest kenel
[06:12] <thunder1212> *kernel
[06:14] <wolter> tr0n, exactly
[06:16] <bhavesh> I was installing ccsm from terminal 2 days ago when there was a power cut. Now I cannot connect to the internet on ubuntu, whereas I can on windows 8.
[06:16] <bhavesh> Tried connecting a new network but didn't help
[06:16] <tr0n> u try with -H or -P?
[06:16] <akurilin> I think the answers is that at least in EC2 changing hostnames is mostly local to the machine and will not change the name of the server as far as the DNS server is concerned. Supposedly changing the hostname can cause problems down the line when some services start expecting it to match the actual name.
[06:16] <wolter> tr0n, tried with -h
[06:16] <tr0n> eww the W word
[06:16] <bhavesh> my network is DSL PPPoE
[06:17] <witheld> Okay, I installed pm-utils on my laptop. Bad idea, it crashes on suspend, including when I close the lid. So I removed pm-utils, but now, it still crashes when I close the lid
[06:17] <witheld> What do I have to remove to stop this
[06:17] <tr0n> whatever dependicies it used
[06:19] <tr0n> or tinker with your system settings
[06:20] <dr_willis> you can set what it does on lid close i recall.
[06:20] <witheld> I've purged everything, so, I'm lost as to what to do
[06:21] <witheld> the initrd still just turns the screen off without crashing, as I'd prefer
[06:21] <witheld> So it's some setting I don't know of that pm-utils changed and didn't put back
[06:22] <witheld> (outrageous)
[06:23] <dr_willis> ir you need to double check the users powersettings fir that user
[06:23] <dr_willis> test with a newly made user also
[06:23] <witheld> It's a minimal install, no dbus, no consolekit, none of that weird per-user stuff
[06:24] <dr_willis> no idea then.
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> how can i make a terminal icon with links2 jumping open google
[06:24] <wolter> terminal icon?
[06:24] <Kaidelong> I need to disable ACPI because my hardware shuts the screen off when the lid is closed but ubuntu completely screws up in software and thinks the lid is closed even when it is reopened and the system becomes unusable
[06:25] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  make a launcher that runs       xterm -e links2 giigle.com          perhaps
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> wolter: well i installed links2, but i want it started from inside terminal, and create an icon for it
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: how i make that launcher
[06:25] <witheld> Ha ha, more ACPI issues, good luck. Well, Kaidelong , pass noacpi to the kernel at boot
[06:25] <dr_willis> or make a gnome-terminal profile to do it
[06:26] <bhavesh> when my DSL internet connection is not working only on ubuntu, how am I supposed to trace down the problem?
[06:26] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  look at the    gedit.desktop  file for an example
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: ok tnx
[06:27] <dr_willis> lotuspsychje:  askubuntu.com  has guides also
[06:27] <tr0n> isnt elinks the successor to links?
[06:27] <dr_willis> bhavesh:  your power failed while installing packages?
[06:27] <bhavesh> dr_willis: yes
[06:27] <witheld> This really is bs though, packages(big name packages at that)  changing system wide settings and not putting things back when uninstalled
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> !info elinks
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> tr0n: well i like links2 :p
[06:28] <tr0n> they look the same
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> !info links2
[06:29] <dr_willis> bhavesh:  may be some info on how to properly recover from tgat on askybuntu.com  that may be the core of thw issue
[06:32] <cristian_c> Hi
[06:32] <strawb3rryj3lly7> im new to ubuntu, and i go an external hdd from a friend, and i went to format it and this error popped up, Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[06:32] <strawb3rryj3lly7> Total number of sectors (487725344) not a multiple of sectors per track (63)!
[06:32] <strawb3rryj3lly7> Add mtools_skip_check=1 to your .mtoolsrc file to skip this test
[06:32] <strawb3rryj3lly7> mkfs.vfat 3.0.12 (29 Oct 2011), what exactly do i have to do to finish the format?
[06:32] <FloodBot1> strawb3rryj3lly7: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:32] <cristian_c> I've installed qt4-qtconfig
[06:32] <cristian_c> If I open the tool and I edit the font settings, clicking on File->Save, this string appears in the statusbar: 'Saved changes.'
[06:33] <cristian_c> but if I close and reopen the tool, there are not the new settings anymore
[06:33] <cristian_c> How can I solve it?
[06:33] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[06:34] <dr_willis> test with a newly made user cristian_c
[06:34] <zw> 嗨，有人可以帮我吗？
[06:34] <dr_willis> see if its tge same way
[06:34] <zw> 请问如何在live cd里安装软件包呢？
[06:35] <cristian_c> dr_willis, ok
[06:35] <cristian_c> dr_willis, with guest too?
[06:35] <dr_willis> try both
[06:35] <cristian_c> !cn | zw
[06:36] <cristian_c> dr_willis, ok
[06:36] <zw> ok,i knew it.
[06:36] <zw> hi everyone.how can i install the packages in live cd system?
[06:37] <dr_willis> clarify what you mean zw
[06:38] <husnainlatif> does anyone use OneNote?
[06:41] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: it worked out pretty easy with this1: http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/create-application-launcher-add-icon-to-unity-ubuntu-12-10/
[06:42] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis: i know got a links2 launcher with google inside terminal :p
[06:45] <lvlingli> why i can't convert a video to mp3 file by "ffmpeg"
[06:45] <Traxie21> Hello, I have a permissions issue
[06:45] <EDocToor> When Ubuntu has a https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html and it comand fails.. it really bytes .. I have be messing around with trying to get a file from one Ubuntu to another Ubuntu box and nothing.. will anyone help me with my ports and ssh - no identities found issue?
[06:46] <tr0n> use ftp
[06:46] <rand> or scp
[06:47] <Traxie21> Could someone please give me the list of proper permissions for the base system in Ubuntu?
[06:47] <Traxie21> My home directory is not owned by me, tmp is messet up, and I think usr is too
[06:47] <tr0n> 755
[06:47] <EDocToor> tr0n, rand, thanks... but the port issue would be the same
[06:48] <Ben64> Traxie21: well what did you do
[06:48] <EDocToor> tr0n... chmod 755 to what?
[06:48] <lvlingli> to home
[06:48] <EDocToor> NO
[06:48] <EDocToor> LOL
[06:48] <tr0n>  /~ /tmp /usr
[06:48] <EDocToor> it is one one machine.. that just might be it... brb
[06:48] <EDocToor> tee hee
[06:49] <lvlingli> >-<
[06:49] <Traxie21> Ben64: I have 3 USB's with a persistant session on them.  I tried to copy the casper-rw and home-rw partitions from one to the other, so as to have a backup of some very important files.
[06:49] <Traxie21> using gksudo
[06:49] <Traxie21> *gksudo nautilus
[06:50] <dr_willis> may be easier to use dd to image the whole usb
[06:50] <Traxie21> dr_willis: I fresh installed the base partition
[06:50] <Traxie21> I hear thats unsafe?
[06:51] <Traxie21> Also, I am copying from a 32 GB to a 16 GB
[06:51] <dr_willis> if you want backups  you could backup tge whole ysb stick to a file    via dd
[06:51] <Traxie21> I want usable backups
[06:51] <HypothesisFrog> Hi. I clicked on an mp3, and it launched some music app which immediately started playing it. I clicked the close button on the window, which closed the app, but the music's still playing. How do I stop it?
[06:52] <Traxie21> I am forever losing my USB drives
[06:52] <rand> EDocToor, are you trying to setup password less transfer with ssh?
[06:52] <lvlingli> or backup by "tar"?
[06:52] <dr_willis> HypothesisFrog:  speaker icon at top right
[06:53] <EDocToor> tr0n, rand, thanks... but the port issue is still there... ummm
[06:53] <dr_willis> has player controlls
[06:53] <HypothesisFrog> dr_willis that doesn't actually stop it. It just stops me hearing it.
[06:53] <lvlingli> Hyperbyte: what app
[06:53] <aeon-ltd> kill rhythmbox then
[06:53] <HypothesisFrog> dr_willis no it doesn't actually. I'm using MATE desktop.
[06:54] <lvlingli> rhythmbox?
[06:54] <dr_willis> mate.. good lyck then  not really supported by tgis channel
[06:54] <HypothesisFrog> lvlingli thankyou!
[06:54] <HypothesisFrog> that's the app
[06:55] <aeon-ltd> heheheh
[06:55] <husnainlatif> does anyone know about the bassboost option in windows, is it available on ubuntu?
[06:55]  * HypothesisFrog does a killall rhythmbox and finds relief
[06:55] <aeon-ltd> husnainlatif: bassboost in what?
[06:56] <husnainlatif> in windows; it's in sounds options or something > enhancements tab
[06:56] <husnainlatif> its like a driver level feature/option
[06:56] <lvlingli> Maybe you can run "top" in the terminal, and find the app
[06:56] <aeon-ltd> i'm not sure if there are systemwide eq optoins by default
[06:56] <dr_willis> sounds like a marketing term for a sound equalizer setting
[06:56] <lvlingli> husnainlatif: windows 7?
[06:57] <husnainlatif> i've already searched a lot about system wide eq, no luck yet
[06:57] <husnainlatif> thought y'all might have an answer -_-
[06:57] <husnainlatif> windows 7+
[06:57] <dr_willis> ive seen some articals about sound equalizers for  pulse. but im not sure one is included by default
[06:58] <tr0n> no M$ questions in here
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> depending on your speakers/headphones you should aim for neutral music is already eq'd, equalizing again should only be used to compensate or color to liking
[06:58] <dr_willis> omgubuntu or webupd8  may mention how to get one  husnainlatif
[06:58] <aeon-ltd> fullstop after neutral
[06:59] <lvlingli> husnainlatif: I think system wide eq is not necessary
[06:59] <dr_willis> some players may have the feature for that  player.
[06:59] <husnainlatif> y'know why i need it? coz i've low-quality headphones with knows bassboost built in and they give me a headache in ubuntu no matter what i play
[07:00] <husnainlatif> on windows however, if i turn on bassboost, everything sounds at least bearable.
[07:00] <dr_willis> you need to unboost them?
[07:00] <husnainlatif> with no*
[07:00] <husnainlatif> sorry bout typos
[07:01] <dr_willis> lack of base = headache? weird
[07:01] <lvlingli> husnainlatif: All right
[07:01] <husnainlatif> you'd understand if you had lower quality headphones -_-
[07:01] <dr_willis> mine are all of $6
[07:01] <dr_willis> ;)
[07:01] <dr_willis> high end = $12
[07:02] <husnainlatif> mine might be well $10 or something
[07:02] <aeon-ltd> there  is a pulseaudio eq
[07:02] <husnainlatif> i know aeon-ltd
[07:02] <husnainlatif> i've tried it
[07:02] <aeon-ltd> install it
[07:02] <aeon-ltd> ok
[07:02] <husnainlatif> it doesn't do any good for me
[07:02] <dr_willis> im in a factory with constant noise..  so  bosteing the base is the laast thing i want
[07:02] <aeon-ltd> how can it not? does it not work?
[07:03] <husnainlatif> it even messed up the  whole sound driver thingy in ubuntu and i had to switch back to windows8 coz of that
[07:03] <aeon-ltd> ok
[07:03] <tr0n> $ellout
[07:04] <dr_willis> i recall some pulse audio ppa that included the feature. but never used it
[07:04] <rand> I would sell the $10 headphones for $5 and get a pair of $6 headphones
[07:05] <aeon-ltd> monoprice?
[07:05] <tr0n> !offtopic
[07:05] <husnainlatif> whats a ppa?
[07:05] <aeon-ltd> says the microsoft hater
[07:05] <tr0n> lol
[07:05] <tr0n> im allowed my snarky comments
[07:06] <aeon-ltd> personal package archive
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> !ppa
[07:06] <husnainlatif> cool bot
[07:07] <cordel> can someone post me a link to Nvidia ftx-280 driver
[07:07] <tr0n> hatred of window$ is the reason most use ubuntu in the first place
[07:07] <mkquist_> so there is no way ... install software on natty?  I know it's old but works like a charm?
[07:07] <Guest88627> gtx-280
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> husnainlatif: you can /query ubottu to trigger yourself aswell
[07:07] <aeon-ltd> mkquist_: backports
[07:07] <husnainlatif> trigger myself?
[07:07] <mkquist_> aeon-ltd: ill look, thanks
[07:07] <tr0n> pvt msg
[07:08] <husnainlatif> unity UI is beautiful
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> husnainlatif: to get information on specific triggers in pvt message
[07:08] <gtxman> where do i download nvidia drivers?
[07:08]  * tr0n has a tux wallpaper
[07:08] <husnainlatif> on the ##windows channel, someone said it's got some serious flaws -_-
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | gtxman
[07:08] <tr0n> lies!
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> tr0n: tinypic me in pm
[07:08] <aeon-ltd> too heavy there's one
[07:08] <gtxman> !nvidia
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> tr0n: i like user desktopz :p
[07:09] <husnainlatif> i dont have enough info bout unity so i cant argue
[07:09] <mkquist_> aeon-ltd: what if i just want the old version?
[07:09] <tr0n> im ssh'd on a vps, its just a pic of him sitting
[07:09] <mkquist_> aeon-ltd: sorry to bother...
[07:09] <husnainlatif> there's just so much that i still need on ubuntu :/
[07:09] <aeon-ltd> mkquist_: compile the software yourself
[07:09] <mkquist_> aeon-ltd: from the binaries?
[07:10] <aeon-ltd> yeah
[07:10] <mkquist_> aeon-ltd: ty again... ill look into it.
[07:10] <tr0n> someone said win has a backdoor put in by the nsa, not sure if its true, learn to come to ur own conclusions
[07:10] <aeon-ltd> heheh
[07:10] <husnainlatif> 'learn to come to ur own conclusions'
[07:10] <husnainlatif> :)
[07:11] <tr0n> i've used win and came to the conclusion its inferior, only gamers really need it, and thats changing slowly
[07:12] <mkquist_> aeon-ltd: if there are no sources, its time to upgrade?... last question
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> tr0n: did you see the alienware ubuntu machines with steam?
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> let's suppose there is a backdoor, and only recently this has become uncovered by snowden. then there's a huge possibiity there are more than one
[07:12] <tr0n> no
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> mkquist_: yeah guess so
[07:12] <mkquist_> aeon-ltd: thanks again
[07:12] <lotuspsychje> tr0n: http://www.alienware.com/ubuntu/
[07:12] <aeon-ltd> mkquist_: no problem
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> tr0n: i think with wine, playonlinux and steam gamers got lots of choices these days
[07:13] <tr0n> nice
[07:14] <tr0n> yea but old habits are hard for some to break
[07:14] <noobuntu> anyone with patience to help me get my start up processes working properly (transmission runs before shares)?
[07:15] <aeon-ltd> noobuntu: is this during boot?
[07:16] <tr0n> only 1 machine with ubuntu, no laptops yet, at least its a start
[07:16] <ditchwindows> damn i love this community, you would never get this using windows lol
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> lets take this to offtopi
[07:16] <lotuspsychje> its interesting :p
[07:17] <meLon> I just rebooted and now pulse (audio) is all messed up.  Any recent updates that could be causing the issue?  I'm not sure what else it could be
[07:18] <aeon-ltd> noobuntu: if this is during login you can add the sleep command when launching trans for delays e.g. sleep 2 && transmission ; if this during boot i've no idea where the order is set
[07:19]  * lotuspsychje wonders why there are no 1600 users in #ubuntu-offtopic aswell :p
[07:19] <ditchwindows> i just followed the USB tutorital with pendrive or whatever [ to install linux on usb] - and now i'm getting a Syslinux ERROR: no configuration file found and such.. any idea?
[07:20] <noobuntu> @aeon-ltd from what ive googled it starts on boot with init.d
[07:20] <lotuspsychje> ditchwindows: what distro you want on the stick?
[07:21] <noobuntu> and sleep should not be added to init.d scripts...
[07:21] <noobuntu> but i'm in deep water here so.. :D
[07:21] <ditchwindows> i even followed http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[07:23] <gtxman> how do i open a linux pkg1.run package in ubuntu?
[07:23] <lotuspsychje> ditchwindows: you could make a live cd(rom) and make an ubuntu stick from there maybe?
[07:23] <ditchwindows> Ubuntu 13.04 64bit btw
[07:23] <noobuntu> damn it, kids up now. gotta go. thanks
[07:24] <husnainlatif> haha
[07:24] <izx> Where do i get ssh logs in ubuntu 12.10 ??
[07:26] <tr0n> they not in /var/log?
[07:29] <izx> tr0n: No it is not there
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> izx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Configuring
[07:36] <gotwig> Why is the update-utility not integrated into software-center?
[07:37] <gtxman> why is ubuntu so hard to install nvidia drivers
[07:38] <Integrated> gotwig, i thought you said my name...
[07:38] <Integrated> woke me up LOL
[07:39] <Integrated> and gtxman because nvidia sucks ;d
[07:40] <Sik> Hello. Using Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit. I have been using it just fine, but some hours ago I rebooted and suddenly X won't start anymore. The log says "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration" and then "Fatal server error: no screens found". Any ideas? Monitor is IBM G74, card is GeForce 7300GS with the Nvidia 304 driver (which actually seems to boot according to the logs). This was all working fine for a long time until that reboot...
[07:40] <gotwig> Integrated, change your name now and leave the country.
[07:42] <ditchwindows> I'm currently having problems with installing Ubuntu 13.04 onto an USB with the Pendrive, i just got an Syslinux Error : no configuriation found. any ideas?
[07:42] <gotwig> Sik, so have you tried to recreate the xorg files via the nvidia utility?
[07:42] <gotwig> ditchwindows, which tool are you using to install onto USB key
[07:42] <Sik> gotwig: the only thing I have right now is the command line... :P
[07:42] <gotwig> Sik, I know. There is something like nvidia-xconfig I guess
[07:43] <ditchwindows> gotwig: Pen Drive linux or whichever - http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[07:43] <ditchwindows> gotwig: whichever they suggested
[07:43] <gotwig> ditchwindows, oh ok..
[07:43] <gotwig> ditchwindows, you could have said that before that you use Windows to create the usb stick ;)
[07:43] <Sik> gotwig: Er, I'll check. Um, what was the shortcut to jump to the other terminals? Alt+F2+something, but can't remember the exact shortcut :S
[07:43] <ditchwindows> gotwig: ahh i should've mentioned that hehe
[07:44] <Sik> ...oh, just Alt+F2, nevermind
[07:44] <gotwig> ditchwindows, ehm, how do you use the tool, do you select 13.04 from the list, or do you manually select it as an image? Do you know that there are also other tools out there (which you, however have to install)
[07:45] <gotwig> Sik, CTRL+ALT+F [put tty number here]
[07:45] <gotwig> e.g CTRL+ALT+F2
[07:45] <gotwig> Sik, you can also try commands like startx
[07:46] <ditchwindows> gotwig: i use the drop down list - i select Ubuntu 13.04 Desktop amd64, then i find the ISO and select the location of the USB drive, then create.
[07:46] <orangerobot> "But Ubuntu links /bin/sh to dash! " <- i've just read this on a blog. wasn't bash ubuntu default shell?
[07:46] <gotwig> ditchwindows, ok.. maybe you should download the image from the website, than select it . I can also recommend Linux Live USB Creator: http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[07:46] <Sik> gotwig: checking the nvidia-xconfig help right now (and given X can't load at all, I doubt startx is going to help)
[07:47] <ditchwindows> gotwig: i downloaded the image from the website, but ill also try the LiLiUSB
[07:48] <gotwig> orangerobot, yeah, its dash. strange
[07:48] <gotwig> ditchwindows, thanks for your efforts :)
[07:48] <Sik> OK going to try, if I log off this is me testing X (if I don't come back after a while assume I fixed this)
[07:49] <rand> can you just dd the iso image of Ubuntu onto a thumb drive and it will be bootable?
[07:49] <Ben64> rand: yes
[07:49] <Sik> ...OK, nope, nvidia-xconfig didn't solve it
[07:49] <rand> Ben64, cool thanks
[07:50] <Ben64> Sik: whats the problem
[07:50] <Sik> Oh, um, fun, now the nvidia-xconfig thing prevents the Nvidia driver from loading at all, great
[07:51] <Sik> Ben64: "Screen(s) found, but none has a usable configuration" It was working fine before rebooting a few hours ago :/
[07:51] <gotwig> Sik, http://alexsleat.co.uk/2011/03/04/how-to-fix-fatal-server-error-no-screens-found-ubuntu/?
[07:51] <gotwig> Sik, http://alexsleat.co.uk/2011/03/04/how-to-fix-fatal-server-error-no-screens-found-ubuntu/ =)
[07:51] <Ben64> Sik: how did you install nvidia?
[07:52] <Sik> Ben64: through the additional driver screen, as usual :v It was working all fine before I rebooted, I guess some automatic update broke it
[07:52] <Beetle559> I've just had an incredibly frustrating six hours with secure boot. I took all the right steps but no matter what I did I couldn't get my brand new lenovo p500 to boot from usb or dvd. That was with Mint. I know Ubuntu has uefi support so hopefully I can get this piece of...hardware to work
[07:52] <Sik> gotwig: bit.ly that or something? I have to type it by hand and I'm on irssi
[07:52] <gotwig> Sik, you can also try to just remove the xorg.conf file, so it maybe gets recreated..
[07:52] <gotwig> Sik, yeah, sry
[07:52] <Ben64> you don't need an xorg.conf
[07:53] <jarodvander> hi. is there an german speaking channel for ubuntu help?
[07:53] <Sik> That was the default before I ran nvidia-xconfig right now...
[07:53] <Ben64> !de | jarodvander
[07:53] <jarodvander> thx!
[07:54] <Sik> OK removing xorg.conf didn't fix anything
[07:54] <gotwig> Sik, have you changed your monitor setup?
[07:54] <Sik> No
[07:54] <Sik> I haven't touched anything, in fact
[07:54] <Sik> Which is why I assume some security update may have broken it (I have those set to install automatically)
[07:55] <gotwig> Sik, well.. you can try dpkg-reconfigure packagename to reconfigure the relevant packages
[07:55] <gotwig> Sik, does nivou* work with your graphics card?
[07:56] <Ben64> Sik: can you pastebin lsmod
[07:56] <c3n9> Is anyone here familiar with OpenVPN? :-)
[07:56] <Sik> Ben64: on terminal, I can't use the clipboard >.< gotwing: Nouveau? Never tried, but then again the issue seems to be with X itself, not with the driver.
[07:56] <c3n9> I'm having a problem with the DNS side of things, thus I can't web-browse when connected to mine (server is Ubuntu).
[07:57] <Ben64> Sik: lsmod | pastebinit
[07:57] <jarodvander> hi again
[07:58] <Sik> Ben64: paste.ubuntu.com/5767078
[07:59] <Ben64> Sik: do you have some sort of weird set up? like dual gpu or something
[07:59] <jarodvander> I wanna activate applets in unity. have to go with "dconf" to "desktop-unity-panel" ... but there isn't an entry called "panel" ... any hints?
[07:59] <Sik> No. The most unusual I can think of is having the integrated sound chip and a discrete card, but nothing else
[07:59] <jeevanus> is there any package to search a particular file or directory?
[08:00] <jeevanus> i don't have the option with my filemanager
[08:00] <Sik> You could argue the hardware is old though (again: monitor is IBM G74, though it does seem to support EDID)
[08:00] <Integrated> stop saying integrated guys LOL
[08:00] <Integrated> i keep coming back here xD
[08:00] <gotwig> Integrated, change your name and leave the country :D
[08:00] <Integrated> whyyy
[08:00] <Integrated> this is the best name everr
[08:00] <gotwig> because its so much more integrated
[08:01] <Sik> Not my fault you have the same name as some piece of hardware! :P
[08:01] <gotwig> call yourself Integrated®©
[08:01] <Integrated> lol..
[08:02] <Integrated> i was just browsing the web for a new mechanical keyboard
[08:02] <ditchwindows> gotwig: hey mate, that USB creater worked well thanks!
[08:02] <Mark___> Integrated: lol
[08:02] <jarodvander> can somebody help me please?
[08:02] <Mark___> We should get like more integrated circuits with everything.
[08:02] <gotwig> ditchwindows, no problem :X have a nice weekend =)
[08:02] <Sik> Base64: also you may want to ignore the "floppy" entry in that list... I outright disconnected the floppy drive XD (not like that should matter)
[08:03] <Integrated> i think people are doing it on purpose now...
[08:03] <gotwig> jarodvander, what do you exactly want to search , and where?
[08:03] <gotwig> jarodvander, have you tried gnome-search-utility
[08:03] <jarodvander> gotwig I wanna activate applets in unity. have to go with "dconf" to "desktop-unity-panel" ... but there isn't an entry called "panel" ... any hints?
[08:04] <gotwig> jarodvander, oh yeah right. Applets. What do you mean by that? The old legacies from gnome 2 ?
[08:04] <jarodvander> yes
[08:04] <jarodvander> is there any gui, to manage my applets an add this to the panel?
[08:05] <jarodvander> add them
[08:07] <husnainlatif> switching OS
[08:07] <gotwig> jarodvander, there is no support for this
[08:07] <gotwig> jarodvander, I dont even know how to do it in 13.04 :/ But IMHO it was a good decision
[08:08] <gotwig> jarodvander, it seems there is a whitelist in dconf
[08:09] <jarodvander> ohm.. i successfully added sysmonitor to the panel, it works, but i want to have a gui, isn't it possible?
[08:09] <jarodvander> yeah, but where i can find the whitelist?
[08:09] <jarodvander> is there an file anywhere?
[08:09] <gotwig> jarodvander, some guys wrote on the internetz that the list is hardcoded
[08:09] <ditchwindows> is it ideal to encrypt your home folder? - this just popped up when installing.
[08:09] <gordonjcp> ditchwindows: probably not
[08:10] <gordonjcp> ditchwindows: if you really, really don't want people poking through your files it can help
[08:10] <gotwig> ditchwindows, when you lose the key, you lose all your data if you forget your password
[08:10] <ditchwindows> gordonjcp: in before NSA? lol
[08:10] <gordonjcp> ditchwindows: it makes things slower
[08:10] <gordonjcp> as gotwig if you forget the key your data is gone
[08:10] <gordonjcp> if you have any disk problems, your data is gone
[08:10] <jarodvander> hmm
[08:11] <Mark___> If you have any disk problems, just email backups@nsa.gov?
[08:11] <gordonjcp> with an unencrypted partition you can usually get *something* back when your disk fails
[08:11] <gotwig> jarodvander, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/how-to-get-systray-whitelist-back-in.html
[08:12] <ditchwindows> gordonjcp: hmm, i never tend to lose my password[s], what do you mean it makes things slower?
[08:12] <jarodvander> gotwig thx, i will look
[08:12] <weemann> hi
[08:12] <savio> Hi
[08:14] <rigo88> hi. if i installed the system with uefi, and i had to exchange the mainboard, than i have to reinstall the system? (the mainboard is just the same typ.)
[08:14] <bekks> rigo88: No.
[08:14] <bekks> rigo88: You should backup everything, thats "all".
[08:15] <rigo88> than do u have any idea why my system does not start? i have a secondary hdd what contains an "old" system. and that boots up, no matter that the ssd is set up as primary.
[08:15] <rigo88> dont have any clue whats wrong.
[08:15] <bekks> rigo88: uefi secure mode enabled.
[08:15] <rigo88> in the bios?
[08:15] <weemann> my laptop has AMD 4200 graphic chip. Previous version Ubuntu run fine but latest i cannot use AMD graphic driver due to xorg update.
[08:15] <gotwig> rigo88, yeah, you can check it, if its enabled, in the bios
[08:16] <weemann> Laptop runs 15c cooler running proprietary AMD driver
[08:18] <weemann> are there any laptops that have removable graphics cards at a sensible price sub £400 ?
[08:19] <rigo88> im checking it. u mean the old board or in the new?
[08:21] <bekks> weemann: There arent even reasonable laprops with removable graphic cards at all.
[08:21] <hotmedal> I have a bcm4313 wifi card on my Lenovo G580, I can connect only to unsecured wifi networks. I'm using the "wl" drivers. brmcsmac is blacklisted. Any solutions?
[08:21] <bekks> weemann: unload wl, load brmcsmac
[08:21] <spyder> on running chroot /mnt/one /bin/bash in live cd i get this error
[08:21] <spyder> chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error
[08:21] <spyder> how do i correct it?
[08:21] <hotmedal> bekks: whoah is that for me?
[08:22] <bekks> spyder: You are using a 32bit live cd for chrooting into a 64bit environment, which is technically impossible.
[08:22] <bekks> hotmedal: yeah, sorry.
[08:22] <rigo88> i dont have such a thing.
[08:22] <rigo88> nowhere.
[08:22] <hotmedal> but using brmcsmac like I was before, I couldn't even see those networks
[08:24] <rigo88> gotwig: any ide? if the bios recognises the ssd than it is... definetely plugged in right?
[08:24] <lvlingli> When I upgrade my ubuntu to the latest release, I can't run my virtual machine by vbox.
[08:24] <MonkeyDust> lvlingli  yes, i did it
[08:24] <lvlingli> Anyone can help me?
[08:24] <bekks> lvlingli: Then reinstall the vbox kernel modules.
[08:24] <gotwig> rigo88, maybe the uefi partition is on the wrong disk..?
[08:24] <bekks> lvlingli: How to do so, is described in the vbox manual.
[08:24] <MonkeyDust> lvlingli  do you have virtual machines now, and you're afraid they'll be lost after upgrading?
[08:24] <lvlingli> bekks: THX,I 'll try.
[08:25] <gotwig> rigo88, do you know that there is a package called "bootrepair" which can help you to repair your boot setup?
[08:25] <gotwig> it works with uefi
[08:25] <rigo88> gotwig: like i saied everything is just the same. i pulled out the cables from the old board plugged them in to the new. in the same slots. :)
[08:25] <rigo88> ok. if my system does not start up how could i use that?
[08:25] <rigo88> live cd?
[08:25] <lvlingli> I can't run this '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'
[08:25] <gotwig> rigo88, yeah, something like that
[08:25] <hotmedal> rigo88: it's called boot-repair and it worked wonders for me
[08:26] <bekks> lvlingli: Then uninstall the ubuntu version of vbox and install the official vbox version from the official website. you will not lose any vms.
[08:26] <gotwig> rigo88, I think you are just missing the right UEFI boot entry
[08:26] <rigo88> can it be damaged somehow?
[08:26] <gotwig> rigo88, you can find it out for your own, and add it as an entry in the BIOS... but that is kind of some work
[08:27] <lvlingli> bekks: OK
[08:27] <lvlingli> bekks: thanks
[08:27] <gotwig> rigo88, I dont think so ... :O
[08:27] <gotwig> rigo88, do you know how uefi works?
[08:27] <hotmedal> bekks: any ideas for my wifi problem?
[08:27] <rigo88> i started up the system tomorrow morning, the board just came, i shut down the system, put in the new board and it does not work now.
[08:27] <rigo88> gotwig: actually no. i dont.
[08:27] <rigo88> but im interested :D
[08:28] <gotwig> rigo88, and that is why ubuntu is awesome...
[08:28] <bekks> hotmedal: No, sorry.
[08:28] <gotwig> under other systems its such a mess to setup uefi ...
[08:28] <hotmedal> ok
[08:28] <Beetle559> I've been having uefi nightmares all night
[08:29] <gotwig> rigo88, basicly there is a EFI partition (typically formated as a FAT32 partition with 200 MB of space), which hols different .efi files and such. You start a .efi file from uefi, and that boots the system. You would have to find the right .efi file, and add it as a UEFI boot entry to the bios
[08:29] <Beetle559> Gave up on mint in the end and hoping for success with ubuntu
[08:29] <gotwig> *holds
[08:29] <gotwig> you can only start .efi files from UEFI.
[08:29] <MonkeyDust> Beetle559  yes, uefi is a pain
[08:29] <MonkeyDust> !uefi
[08:29] <praveen> hi all..!!! one of my front audio jack  in ubuntu (the right one only)  is working but the left one is not. i have already installed gnome alsa mixer. please help.
[08:30] <gotwig> the funny thing is, that UEFI still calls the setup of the motherboard "BIOS"
[08:30] <gotwig> its more a replacement for MBR I guess, instead of BIOS
[08:30] <gotwig> there still is a bios...
[08:30] <bekks> gotwig: Because that point is configuring the basic input/output system ;)
[08:31] <bekks> the MBR exists with UEFI too, since the MBR is the first sector of a harddisk.
[08:31] <gotwig> if there would be only UEFI... the world would go down =)
[08:31] <gotwig> bekks, ok...
[08:31] <gordonjcp> UEFI rocks
[08:31] <gordonjcp> BIOSes need to die
[08:31] <gotwig> rigo88, so, you can try boot-repair (which I believe adds a UEFI entry) or add the entry for your own
[08:31] <Beetle559> I enabled legacy, enabled boot from usb, i created a livedvd, I did everything I should + or - 2352352345 Google searches. Ended up in the fetal position rocking myself crying "Why God, why"?
[08:31] <gordonjcp> they were crap 30 years ago and they're crap now
[08:31] <Beetle559> That's uefi
[08:31] <gotwig> gordonjcp, -..- play somewhere else
[08:32] <gotwig> Beetle559, which PC do you got
[08:32] <gordonjcp> gotwig: you're fairly new to this whole PC thing, aren't you?
[08:32] <Beetle559> lenovo p500 win8 preinstalled
[08:32] <gotwig> Beetle559, I think your problem is, that you want it to work, but you dont know how UEFI works
[08:32] <gotwig> because just MBR was much more easy.
[08:32] <gordonjcp> otherwise you'd realise what a shambles the PC BIOS is
[08:33] <gordonjcp> oh, sorry, this is not #u-ot
[08:33] <hotmedal> Beetle559: I, on the other hand ran boot-repair from the ubuntu liveUSB and solved everything
[08:33] <gotwig> Beetle559, at least for my system, I had to do a BIOS firmware upgrade. in the normal firmware which ships with the PC, there was UEFI, which couldnt boot anything different than win8 ...  I found that out at 2 AM in the morning.
[08:33] <gotwig> Zenbook UX32VD here
[08:33] <rigo88> i.c. i check after.
[08:33] <Beetle559> Sorry, that was trying to install Mint. I'm downloading ubuntu now
[08:33] <gordonjcp> gotwig: buggy UEFI?
[08:34] <hotmedal> Beetle559: good luck :D
[08:34] <gordonjcp> gotwig: on PC hardware there is no restriction on what UEFI can boot
[08:34] <gotwig> gordonjcp, I dont know. Nowadays vendors ship all the time corrupt software, and later do patches to fix the most general things.
[08:35] <SeanHosie54> does any one know if you can remove the encryption password on the installation ?
[08:35] <gotwig> Beetle559, you need to know how it works, if you want to work with it. So easy.
[08:35] <shadej> hey guys
[08:35] <shadej> how do i add rewrite_modulte on apache2 after installation?
[08:35] <gordonjcp> gotwig: I guess a PC manufacturer *could* sell a PC without the ability to disable booting non-Windows OSes, but that's possible with the BIOS too
[08:35] <gordonjcp> gotwig: IBM tried that about 20 years ago and it nearly sunk them
[08:35] <Beetle559> I'm hoping it will be easy with ubuntu. Mint doesn't have much uefi support
[08:36] <gotwig> gordonjcp, btw. I am not talking about secure boot here.
[08:36] <gotwig> maybe, there just was no way to boot UEFI via USB
[08:36] <gotwig> Beetle559, how do you know that. Its basicly the same
[08:37] <gordonjcp> gotwig: aha, no
[08:37] <gordonjcp> gotwig: you load a UEFI boot loader and the ISO on to your USB stick, same as you do for a Mac
[08:37] <Beetle559> Still, it didn't seem right. I couldn't find an example of anyone else with the same problem. Others have enabled legacy mode and booted from usb/dvd no problem.
[08:37] <gordonjcp> gotwig: dead easy
[08:37] <gotwig> gordonjcp, ? I dont know whats the context
[08:38] <gordonjcp> gotwig: booting UEFI-only hardware from USB
[08:38] <gotwig> Beetle559, have you tried to use a new firmware?
[08:38] <Beetle559> Did an MD5 check, the file was okay. Double checked with MagicISO, the file was bootable.
[08:38] <gotwig> gordonjcp, I told you that my firmware wasnt able to do it.
[08:38] <Beetle559> New firmware will be next
[08:38] <bekks> "uefi only" doesnt say anything about "secure mode enabled/disabled" at all.
[08:38] <hotmedal> Question: why is wifi on ubuntu so damned buggy?
[08:39] <bekks> hotmedal: Because its not.
[08:39] <gotwig> hotmedal, because NetworkManager is kind of bad implemented
[08:39] <bekks> hotmedal: Did you follow the wiki page to get your chipset running?
[08:39] <hotmedal> bekks: I always manage to run into trouble with it
[08:39] <hotmedal> bekks: which one?
[08:39] <tr0n> just disable then re enable wireless
[08:40] <gotwig> hotmedal, funny that you ask him for the wiki page for your chipset
[08:40] <thesignal> hi, i just noticed a mistake on the ubuntu website where i can download an iso file
[08:40] <Beetle559> Do you lose your secure boot signatures if you "flash bios" (or uefi equivalent)?
[08:40] <thesignal> who should i talk to, reporting this?
[08:40] <hotmedal> gotwig: it's a bcm4313, I already said. And I also told him about the steps I have taken to make the networks appear. But I cnnot connect to secure networks
[08:41] <gotwig> Beetle559, no way.
[08:41] <gotwig> Beetle559, nowadays Windows 8 serials are integrated into UEFI, you no longer get a key code
[08:41] <bekks> !b43 | hotmedal
[08:41] <Beetle559> So I can update the 'bios' and and won't lose access to win8?
[08:42] <gotwig> Beetle559, do you know what a UEFI boot entry is..?
[08:42] <gotwig> I think I better go to launch..
[08:42] <hotmedal> bekks thanks, I folowed steps in forums
[08:42] <gordonjcp> oh great, apt has got itself in a knot *again*
[08:42] <gordonjcp> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[08:43] <gotwig> gordonjcp, whats the problem
[08:43] <azi`> hm.. is there a way to make pipes in paralel? as in foo | bar making foo and bar run as parallel processes?
[08:43] <gordonjcp> so, run that, it wants to download and install 121MB of packages
[08:43] <gordonjcp> I don't want it to do that though, I want it to uninstall a bunch of stuff
[08:43] <gotwig> gordonjcp, lol ^^
[08:43] <Beetle559> I'm still stuck in bios think. Is "updating the firmware" analagous to flashing bios?
[08:44] <gordonjcp> gotwig: nuke and pave time
[08:44] <thesignal> I want to report a problem on the ubuntu-website, who should i talk to, to report the issue?
[08:44] <gotwig> Beetle559, To boot windows, you just need the right boot entry
[08:44] <elixir> Hi, I use Ununtu 12.10 and more often these days, my mouse stops working all of a sudde, any help please, I am not able to fix this.
[08:44] <Beetle559> right
[08:44] <gotwig> Beetle559, all BIOS/UEFI stuff is typically integrated into the BIOS/UEFi thing, or into the UEFI System Partition
[08:44] <gotwig> Beetle559, a boot entry consists of a name for the entry, the device its for, and the path to the right .efi file
[08:44] <iceroot> thesignal: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+filebug
[08:45] <bekks> azi`: a pipe always runs in parallel.
[08:45] <gotwig> Beetle559, I dont think that a firmware upgrade is going to delete you the entry, and the system partition
[08:45] <rand> Elixir, wireless mouse? check the batteries?
[08:45] <Beetle559> Wait. UEFI software is stored on the hdd?
[08:45] <gotwig> Beetle559, Yes it is is stored even on a partition, unlike MBR/BIOS
[08:45] <elixir> rand: no, the cursor of mouse, Mousepad nt working
[08:45] <gotwig> Beetle559, typically its the first partition on the hdd, its formated as fat32
[08:46] <gotwig> (for uefi windows 8 vendor dudes)
[08:46] <thesignal> iceroot: ty
[08:46] <gotwig> under macs its formated as HFS+
[08:46] <elixir> rand: even right now its fixed at a point on my screen, I've to work with keyboard only
[08:46] <elixir> rand: this problem does't occur on Windows
[08:46] <gotwig> Beetle559, now, every bootloader should in best case create a directory for his own bootloader, place the relevant .efi files there, and than add a boot entry to UEFI. Thats it.
[08:46] <rand> elixir, so it's a laptop?
[08:47] <gotwig> Beetle559, The path for the ubuntu .efi file is known. You can try to do the boot entry for your own, if your BIOS allows to add bootentries
[08:47] <Sik> OK, so, still clueless with my problem. Anybody here who can help me? X complains that no screens have an usable configuration :/ Worked fine until I rebooted some hours ago. And no, I didn't change the hardware setup, nor do I have anything unusual there. Monitor: IBM G74. Video: GeForce 7300 GS. Using Ubuntu 12.04 64-bit.
[08:47] <gotwig> Beetle559, its a path something like "EFI\UBUNTU\herecomestheefifile.efi
[08:47] <gotwig> "
[08:47] <elixir> rand: yes
[08:48] <gotwig> Beetle559, if you want, I can tell you the proper path
[08:48] <Beetle559> Great info gotwig. TIL
[08:48] <ditchwindows> i just installed Ubuntu 13.04 on my second pc and it's acting REAL slow
[08:49] <gotwig> ditchwindows, which graphics cards are you using, Sir?
[08:49] <tr0n> try a diverative like linbutu
[08:49] <ditchwindows> gotwig: Nvidia 6150 onboard
[08:49] <Beetle559> I'm still downloading ubuntu, my problems were with mint wich has no uefi support right now. Further, why I couldn't boot from legacy mode is still a mystery to me.
[08:49] <Sik> ditchwindows: ...disable compositing if you can
[08:50] <gotwig> Beetle559, the full path for a 64 bit ubuntu should be the following: "EFI\ubuntu\grubx64.efi"
[08:50] <rigo88> i cant apt-get install boot-repair
[08:50] <gotwig> Beetle559, you need to select the right harddisk at the BIOS as well
[08:50] <gotwig> rigo88, have you read my text?
[08:50] <tr0n> u use sudo rig?
[08:51] <ditchwindows> Sik:  okay, ill give that a try
[08:51] <rigo88> im root..
[08:51] <rigo88> gotwig: i think.. :)
[08:51] <gotwig> rigo88, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[08:51] <Elegant> fuck you?
[08:52] <rand> Elixir, I have no idea wish I could help
[08:52] <gotwig> Elegant, watch out dude o.0 there are kids everywhere
[08:52]  * gotwig asks himself why he has to google everything together.
[08:53] <Beetle559> thanks gotwig, I'm copying all this down and getting a better grasp of uefi. I'll make my own boot entry for science. I may as well accept uefi is going to be around for a while
[08:53] <rigo88> ohci_hcd hc died
[08:53] <rigo88> whats this... :D
[08:53] <EMPHASIS_> Some people have no idea of propriety.
[08:53] <rigo88> should i send back the board where it came from?
[08:54] <gotwig> Beetle559, it basicly is not that easy :/ If you know where the .efi file is
[08:54] <gotwig> *dont know ;D
[08:54] <gotwig> there is no file browser in BIOS :( thats so sad
[08:54] <Beetle559> Learning that it's all stored on the hdd and not it's own chip helped a lot
[08:54] <Sik> ditchwindows: if I recall correctly there was a driver regression at some point that made compositing horribly slow (happened to me), so the non-compositing shells turned out to be faster. That's why I mentioned it. Nvidia's fault :/
[08:55] <elixir> rand: just found the solution here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/66907/touchpad-not-working-on-msi-u130-after-login-in , thanks for concern ;-)
[08:55] <gotwig> Beetle559, yeah.. like I said Fat32 for windows 8 vendors, hfs+ for mac os x (lol, I am a hackintosh dude ^^)
[08:55] <Beetle559> That makes updating a lot easier anyway
[08:55] <MonkeyDust> gotwig  you have to google it, because you're not yet familiar with it
[08:55] <gotwig> MonkeyDust, no, because I know what I need.. but not exactly
[08:56] <gotwig> my brain is very bad at saving info I dont regulary need
[08:56] <gotwig> but who cares :O
[08:57] <ditchwindows> Sik:  where would i begin to disable it? i've tried gconftool-2 -s --type bool /apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager false
[08:59] <Sik> ditchwindows: in the login screen, just choose another shell there
[09:00] <Sik> Not all the shells use compositing
[09:02] <ditchwindows> Sik: im at the login screen right now, i have my user name top left, password login, guest, remote login, top right corner onscreen keyboard, internet connections, volume, clock, suspend, shutdown, reset - i don't see anything about the shell selection
[09:02] <rigo88> well i found the efi file... but it is binary.
[09:02] <opasnost> I've been having a problem with facebook ubuntu is not able to gain access
[09:03] <Sik> ditchwindows: check the buttons, one of them chooses the shell for the current session (and no, I don't think it has a name)
[09:03] <Sik> ditchwindows: oh right, select your user, then when it prompts the password there it lets you choose the shell
[09:04] <rigo88> ill try with live cd if i come back. now i have to go thanks for the support!
[09:04] <rigo88> bye
[09:05] <ditchwindows> Sik: oy vey, lol i don't even see that even when i select it.. fml lol - i swear!
[09:06] <Sik> ditchwindows: if I could look I'd try to help, but I'm not even using the default login screen :/ (and I'm stuck with the terminal right now because X refuses to boot, so that won't help)
[09:07] <Sik> ditchwindows: look next to the button that lets you select the keyboard layout and such? Otherwise at a corner of the login prompt... Otherwise no idea, I can't tell what's in your login screen x_x; It should be somewhere there though, I swear. Otherwise you can't change shells.
[09:09] <dementeddemigod> Sik/ditchwindows. I'm running 13.04 and I don't think the option to change shells is on the screen anymore :( I just tried in a VM and it down't stand out where it used to be
[09:09] <dementeddemigod> * used to be there so you could change between unity 2/3d from memory
[09:10] <opasnost> looks like all I had to do was log out of facebook in my web browser completely . Then go through with the log in through Facebook
[09:11] <kostkon_> dementeddemigod: it now appears only when youve installed additional DEs
[09:11] <Sik> So basically dementeddemigod needs to install the other shells?
[09:11] <dementeddemigod> koston: cheers, nice to know
[09:12] <Sik> Well, at least that makes more sense
[09:12] <dementeddemigod> * make that kostkon_ ;)
[09:22] <praveen> hi all..!!! one of my front audio jack in ubuntu (the right one only) is working but the left one is not. i have already installed gnome alsa mixer. please help.
[09:23] <Sik> Well, since my problem still is not solved: what can make X sudden of all decide that the screen is not usable? I didn't change the hardware nor the drivers and they had worked just fine until today. Any ideas?
[09:26] <dementeddemigod> Sik: sorry got nothing. I had it happen to me in 11.04/11.10 (can't remember which) and never resolved it. Ended up re-installing :(
[09:26] <Sik> :/
[09:27] <ditchwindows> Sik:  is it possible to Disable compiz using compiz config manager?
[09:27] <Sik> Never tried
[09:28] <ditchwindows> Sik: is it the Unity?
[09:28] <Sik> Also with 11.x the issue I had was compositing would make the shell hang, rather than just slow down... Another reason why I never enable compositing -_-'
[09:28] <Sik> Never used Unity, sticking to GNOME
[09:28] <ditchwindows> Sik: me neither lol
[09:29] <Sik> But basically the only fix is sticking to the non-accelerated shells :/
[09:29] <ditchwindows> Sik: i personally prefered GNOME over unity.
[09:30] <Sik> Also ugh, I'd rather not have to reinstall Ubuntu -_-' (and moreover, first of all figure out why X may stop working sudden of all - I wonder if some update outright made it incompatible with my monitor, in which case I'm completely screwed)
[09:30] <MonkeyDust> ditchwindows  unity is a shell over gnome, you probably mean gnome2
[09:31] <Guest77746> test
[09:31] <MonkeyDust> Guest77746  it works, you're in
[09:31] <Sik> MonkeyDust: I said GNOME :P But yeah, though there's also GNOME3, which is why I didn't say a number
[09:31] <ditchwindows> MonkeyDust: i've never had to experience the unity crap, and persoanlly i hate it  already lol
[09:32] <Sik> Does anybody know if Ubuntu dropped support for some kinds of monitors?
[09:32] <ditchwindows> awesome disabled Unity to default, now when i rebooted there is NOTHING LOL just desktop.. :(
[09:33] <ditchwindows> so.. 13.04 is lame, can't change shells and such from what i can see
[09:34] <Ben64> ditchwindows: yes you can, and what do you mean by "shells"
[09:34] <bekks> ditchwindows: You can change user login shells as you like in every ubuntu.
[09:35] <Sik> Ben64: do you still have that link you sent me earlier? (shortened please, I need to type it by hand and IRC advances too fast)
[09:35] <ditchwindows> well its a secret on this version cause its hiding on me
[09:35] <Sik> ditchwindows: I wonder if it uninstalled all other shells >.>'
[09:35] <Ben64> Sik: i didn't send you one
[09:35] <k1l> ditchwindows: are you done with your unity rants?
[09:35] <bekks> ditchwindows: Define "its" and please state what you actually want to do.
[09:35] <ditchwindows> im running Nvidia 6150 onboard, and its lagging tits
[09:35] <Sik> OK who did then?
[09:35] <Sik> :/
[09:35] <Ben64> Sik: if you know anything the url contained i can search my logs for it
[09:36] <Sik> Yeah, why X stopped working on Ubuntu
[09:36] <Ben64> Sik: i mean like a phrase or something that was in the url
[09:36] <ditchwindows> k1l: i've ran ubuntu with earlier versions, i was able to change the shell or whatever it's called, but with this one i can't.
[09:36] <Sik> Ack, don't remember the exact phrase, it was from Ubuntu's own site though :X
[09:36] <Ben64> ditchwindows: ask a question instead of ranting and you might be able to get an answer
[09:36] <k1l> ditchwindows: which shell?
[09:36] <bekks> ditchwindows: You can always change a user login shell. As you can change your desktop environment.
[09:37] <Ace> is there any feedback on installing eclipse latest version on Ubuntu 13.04 ?
 Ben64: do you still have that link you sent me earlier? (shortened please, I need to type it by hand and IRC advances t
[09:37] <k1l> ditchwindows: what do you want to achieve?
[09:37] <ditchwindows> anything that wont lag
[09:37] <Ben64> uh... wrong paste... Jun 15 2013 00:51:38 <gotwig>	Sik, http://alexsleat.co.uk/2011/03/04/how-to-fix-fatal-server-error-no-screens-found-ubuntu/
[09:37] <k1l> ditchwindows: you mean you want another desktop?
[09:37] <ditchwindows> i just want to use ubuntu without it lagging, that's all
[09:37] <MonkeyDust> ditchwindows  lxde and xfce are fast and popular
[09:38] <ditchwindows> like when you're navigating it's VERY SLOW, but once your in an application and such it works fine
[09:38] <MonkeyDust> ditchwindows  http://i.imgur.com/3N5f6.jpg
[09:38] <Sik> OK managed to copy it somehow XD
[09:38] <k1l> ditchwindows: so install lubuntu-desktop or the xubuntu-desktop
[09:38] <ditchwindows> Gnome2 would be ideal
[09:39] <MonkeyDust> ditchwindows  fallback-session is very similar to gnome2
[09:39] <k1l> gnome2 is dead, ditchwindows
[09:39] <k1l> you should have gotten the memo
[09:40] <ditchwindows> k1l: why's that?
[09:40] <k1l> ditchwindows: ask gnome why they stopped with it.
[09:40] <Sik> Damn, the backup xorg.conf is broken too :(
[09:40] <Sik> Er failsafe
[09:40] <Ben64> Sik: what version ubuntu?
[09:41] <Sik> 12.04 64-bit
[09:41] <Sik> (yes, the LTS one :P)
[09:41] <dementeddemigod> ditchwindows: there is a gnome DE installable directly from ubuntu software centre. I presume it's v3
[09:41] <Ben64> Sik: are you on another computer right now, or what?
[09:42] <dementeddemigod> ditchwindows: you've probably already answered this but, what version are you running and how much RAM do you have?
[09:42] <ditchwindows> dementeddemigod: Ubuntu 13.04 - 64bit, 4GB
[09:42] <Sik> Ben64: on this one! Stuck with the terminal :(
[09:42] <dementeddemigod> lol, fair enough
[09:43] <dementeddemigod> not a memory issue then. I've only had unity crawl when it's been in a VM with way too little memory
[09:43] <Sik> That's also why I can't copypaste links and see images :/
[09:43] <Ben64> dementeddemigod: rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf to something else, then do "sudo service lightdm start"
[09:43] <Sik> (also that this is the only system in the entire house connected to internet is not helping)
[09:43] <Ben64> wrong tab, sorry dementeddemigod
[09:43] <Ben64> Sik: that one's for you
[09:44] <dementeddemigod> Ben64, no worries ;) I'm running 3 different 13.04 boxes and don't have any DE problems ;)
[09:44] <ditchwindows> EXFCE doesn't look too shabby, if it will work with my current system
[09:44] <Ben64> xfce works with everything
[09:44] <Sik> Ben64: erm... and then? (startx still fails, mind you)
[09:44] <statl> ditchwindows: If gnome 2 is ideal for you, take a look at mate.
[09:45] <Ben64> Sik: startx isn't the right way to start x, don't listen to it's name
[09:45] <Ben64> mate isn't supported here
[09:45] <Sik> Well I'm using it to tell if X is even able to boot at all
[09:45] <Sik> It keeps throwing out the same error
[09:45] <Ben64> thats not really a reliable test
[09:45] <Ben64> sudo service lightdm start
[09:45] <Sik> Already did
[09:45] <Ben64> thats the correct way
[09:45] <statl> Ben64: But we can at least tell him about its existence?
[09:46] <Sik> Stuck at after starting MIDI emulation
[09:46] <Ben64> gnome 2 is dead. just let it die
[09:46] <k1l> statl: which doesnt help him, because he wopnt get help in here with it
[09:46] <Sik> GNOME Classic is GNOME3 behaving like GNOME2, right?
[09:47] <k1l> Sik: yes, but its not the full old behaviour. some parts like configuration of the panel are missing
[09:47] <Sik> But it's similar in use :|
[09:48] <Sik> The only serious change I noticed was the system settings being moved elsewhere
[09:48] <k1l> i see most people complaining because its not a full gnome2 desktop. i suggest to use xfce instead
[09:48] <statl> k1l: aye
[09:48] <xwalk> Would anyone know how to use these color codes in the PS1 variable? I think I've tried every wrong way and can't seem to find the right way syntax-wise or otherwise. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizingBashPrompt
[09:49] <martin__> hi. Please help me with pulseaudio. I've great problems with skype. Echo on microphone input (headset) and the output is fixed to HDMI! I cannot change it to the headset!
[09:49] <energizer> I noticed some network usage on my indicator, ran nethogs, and it told me that in addition to dropbox, chrome, etc, this program was running: "20.27:22-88.148.8.2"
[09:49] <xwalk> I don't really understand expansion in bash even though I've read on it a lot and I think that's the reason I'm having problems.
[09:49] <energizer> what is that?
[09:49] <ditchwindows> sorry brb
[09:49] <Sik> martin__: I'm not sure Skype uses PulseAudio, I think it's talking to ALSA directly *sigh* (does somebody know for sure?)
[09:49] <bekks> energizer: Thats no program at all. Looks like a malformed IP address.
[09:50] <energizer> bekks it appears in the PROGRAM column of nethogs, though without a DEV like eth0
[09:51] <martin__> Sik: I'm using skype version 4.2 which talks to pulseaudio directly
[09:51] <dementeddemigod> energizer: run "netstat -plantu" to see all your open network connections. It will tell you each of the processes (by name) that are connected or waiting. Then you can do some research on each one
[09:52] <bekks> energizer: Can you upload a screenshot of that output somewhere?
[09:53] <energizer> looks like it disappeared and the network activity dropped...
[09:54] <bekks> energizer: I guess it was just some malformed output of nethogs.
[09:54] <Sik> martin__: OK :S I just know that Skype is doing something weird because it constantly messes up the sound of all other programs
[09:54] <energizer> aite thanks bekks
[09:55] <Sik> Ben64: what was that command you told me to run actually do...
[09:56] <Sik> Alt+F8 shows an empty screen
[09:56] <bekks> Sik: On tty8, usually, there is nothing.
[09:57] <Sik> tty7 has a wall of text
[09:57] <bekks> Sik: The "normal" x server runs on tty7, reachable with alt+f7
[09:57] <Ben64> Sik: starts up the gui stuffs
[09:57] <Sik> Alt+F7 should send me to the GUI?
[09:57] <Ben64> yep
[09:58] <Sik> Nope :/
[09:58] <Sik> I just get the wall of text from when Ubuntu boots
[09:58] <bekks> alt+f7 doesnt start up anything. It changes the tty to be displayed.
[09:58] <Ben64> something is messed up pretty good
[09:58] <dementeddemigod> Sik: whats the last few lines about?
[09:58] <bekks> If the X server isnt running, there is nothing to display.
[09:58] <Sik> Er... OpenArena and Timidity
[09:59] <Sik> bekks: X complains that the screen is not usable
[09:59] <bekks> Sik: So the X server isnt running.
[09:59] <Ben64> did you rename the xorg.conf
[09:59] <Sik> Ben64: removed, used nvidia-xconfig, used the failsafe, neither thing worked so far
[09:59] <Sik> It looks like X is decided to reject my monitor
[09:59] <Ben64> which video card, and which driver?
[10:00] <Sik> GeForce 7300GS, Nvidia 304.88
[10:00] <Ben64> ok, 304 is the latest that supports that card
[10:01] <Sik> Ben64: there are several 304.xx drivers
[10:01] <Noskcaj> is there a planet ubuntu challenge
[10:01] <M-WiGBold> well
[10:01] <Sik> But in any case it was working just fine until today :|
[10:01] <Noskcaj> s/challenge/channel
[10:01] <M-WiGBold> Good afternoon
[10:02] <M-WiGBold> is their anybody who knows how to use pidgin together with the TOR network?
[10:02] <bekks> !broadcom > bekks
[10:03] <Ben64> Sik: do you see any nvidia stuff if you type "ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/updates/dkms"
[10:03] <Sik> nvidia_current_updates.ko nvidia_experimental_304.ko
[10:04] <Sik> Ben64: if this helps, even when forcing Ubuntu to boot with the VESA driver X *still* refuses to work...
[10:04] <Esokrates> hi, does anyone know if google hangout plugin is open source? Because I have read so, but never found the code :(
[10:05] <Ben64> Sik: grep -i nv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*
[10:06] <eltigre> Hey, stupid question: if I have /dev/usb0, what command do I need to stream the input from that into a file?
[10:06] <Sik> /etc/modprobe.b/blacklist-framebuffer.conf:blacklist nvidiafb <newline> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-local.conf:blacklist nvidia_173
[10:06] <eltigre> /dev/ttyUSB0 actually
[10:07] <dementeddemigod> eltigre: cat /dev/ttyUSB0 > filename
[10:07] <bekks> eltigre: You can do so using cat, minicom, etc.
[10:08] <dementeddemigod> eltigre: note the ">" means you OVERWRITE the file if there is anything in it already
[10:09] <Ben64> Sik: ok... run sudo nvidia-xconfig again and pastebin the config it creates
[10:10] <Sik> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5767340/
[10:10] <bekks> !rootirc | Guest42061
[10:10] <Guest41711> hey all, I'm having a problem with installing gdm themes.  I've tried using gnome-tweak-tool, ubuntu-tweak-tool, and nothing works.  I tried going to system->preferences->login window and there is nothing of the sort there.  Am I missing something?
[10:11] <bekks> Guest41711: That rootirc paste was for you.
[10:11] <Sik> jcporter you mean...
[10:11] <bekks> -.-
[10:11] <Sik> :P
[10:11] <Sik> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5767340
[10:13] <Ben64> Sik: and that doesn't work? (try the lightdm thing)
[10:13] <jcporter> Oops!
[10:13] <Sik> ...wait a second, is it me or did nvidia-xconfig generate something different this time?
[10:13] <jcporter> So what am I missing?
[10:13] <Sik> (33Hz horizontal refresh rate sounds like it can't get to 1024x768...)
[10:14] <Ben64> Sik: whats the resolution of the monitor
[10:14] <Sik> CRT! :P
[10:14] <Sik> I use 1024x768 but it can do higher
[10:15] <Sik> VESA mode tries to force 1280x1024 :v
[10:17] <hotmedal> I have a bcm4313, I cannot connect to secure wifi connections using the wl driver and I can't see any connections using the brcmsmac driver.
[10:17] <hotmedal> bekks: I rtfm, still no luck
[10:18] <Sik> ...welp
[10:18] <Sik> Now not even the Nvidia driver wants to boot
[10:18] <Sik> Either that or I did so much stuff in this session that processes are fighting over each other
[10:19] <Ben64> Sik: try replacing these two sections of the xorg config with these http://pastebin.com/6jnLxqD6
[10:20] <Ben64> Sik: and what do you mean nvidia driver ... boot
[10:20] <Sik> Ben64: looked at Xorg.0.log, now the Nvidia driver aborts :/
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> !bcm | hotmedal is this useful
[10:20] <hotmedal> that's what I read
[10:20] <Ben64> Sik: with what error
[10:21] <Sik> "Failing initialization of X screen 0"
[10:21] <Ben64> well try my xorg.conf modifications
[10:22] <hotmedal> MonkeyDust: the only thing I haven't tried is the ndiswrapper. I don't want to try it, the other drivers should work.
[10:22] <Ben64> hotmedal: you could always try getting a different wireless card : /
[10:22] <hotmedal> Ben64: but this is a new laptop, I don't want to butcher it
[10:22] <hotmedal> yet
[10:23] <MonkeyDust> hotmedal  i don't use wifi myself, but you should also explore rfkill
[10:23] <hotmedal> ok
[10:23] <Ben64> hotmedal: usb wireless?
[10:23] <Sik> Ben64: will take a while, I have to copy by hand -_-'
[10:24] <Ben64> Sik: wget!
[10:24] <hotmedal> Ben64: I'm hoping for a software solution
[10:24] <Ben64> hotmedal: its not a very supported chip, blame broadcom
[10:24] <Sik> Ben64: do I need to copy all the ModeLines? '-'
[10:25] <hotmedal> Ben64: lol, true
[10:25] <Ben64> Sik: you can remove some, but you have to remove them on the lower section too
[10:25] <Sik> Two sections? Ow
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> !info rfkill | hotmedal
[10:26] <Esokrates> hotmedal: usually if things don't work out of the box in ubuntu  (at least in terms of wifi drivers) this is not a good sign
[10:26] <hotmedal> MonkeyDust: yeah, it says everything is unblocked
[10:26] <hotmedal> Esokrates: umm, well of course not. What's your point?
[10:27] <Esokrates> hotmedal: us
[10:27] <Esokrates> hotmedal: sry ... that was by mistake ....
[10:27] <hotmedal> Kaidelong: hi there
[10:28] <Kaidelong> hello hotmedal, long time no see, you can PM me if you want to talk, this is not really the place for that (or head to #haskell-blah)
[10:29] <hotmedal> Kaidelong: yeah, I'm just strugling with my wifi card atm
[10:32] <Sik> Ben64: there's an Options "DMPS" here
[10:32] <Sik> What do I do?
[10:32] <Ben64> leave it, or take it away, shouldn't affect anything
[10:33] <Sik> OK
[10:34] <z3n0ps> I installed the Transitional package for driver management GUI , but where can i find it ?
[10:35] <Sik> Ben64: what now?
[10:35] <Sik> x_x;
[10:35] <Sik> Also is it OK to up the Gamma? (screen is a bit dark >.>)
[10:36] <Ben64> well see if you can even get a gui up first
[10:36] <Sik> OK how?
[10:36] <Sik> lightdm again?
[10:36] <Ben64> stop it first, then start it
[10:36] <k1l> z3n0ps: which ubuntu exactly?
[10:36] <Sik> ...how do I stop it
[10:36] <Ben64> sudo service lightdm stop
[10:36] <Sik> Throws me an error
[10:36] <Sik> I guess lightdm wasn't even starting up
[10:37] <k1l> Sik: sudo service lightdm stop #but this will kill the desktop with all programs
[10:37] <z3n0ps> ubuntu 12.04?
[10:37] <Sik> k1l: I can't even start X
[10:37] <Sik> :P
[10:37] <Ben64> k1l: there is no desktop, thats the problem
[10:37] <Sik> OK I'll start it then
[10:37] <k1l> dont try to startx start the lightdm. startx will cause root issues when starting with the correct lightdm afterwards
[10:38] <Sik> Aaaaaaaaaand same as before
[10:38] <Ben64> k1l: so is that part of the problem now? he did startx before
[10:38] <Ben64> i haven't had x problems for years
[10:38] <Sik> And startx promptly failed
[10:38] <Sik> I don't think X is running at all
[10:39] <k1l> Ben64: it could be. depends on the errors that appear
[10:39] <Sik> Then again I issued so many commands I should probably reboot *anyway*
[10:39] <bekks> Sik: startx failing is expected, since the correct way to start X is using lightdm.
[10:39] <Sik> k1l: X refuses to boot, it claims the screen doesn't have an usable configuration
[10:39] <Sik> Ugh, I'll just reboot and try again with this Xorg.conf
[10:39] <Sik> If I don't return in a while, it got fixed
[10:39] <Sik> :v
[10:40] <k1l> if the driver doesnt find the right resolution try to set up a proper xorg.conf
[10:41] <z3n0ps> k1l , Ubuntu 12.04
[10:41] <k1l> z3n0ps: that should have a driver option in the system settings overview. since 12.10 its in the software-sources section, iirc
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: ive had few users last night having issues with X after updates and reboot, max res 1024x768
[10:43] <sik> Well... that didn't do anything :|
[10:43] <z3n0ps> k1l, can't find it there.
[10:45] <z3n0ps> How do I install BCM43142 wireless drivers , i have i686 arch ?
[10:46] <k1l> !bcm43
[10:46] <k1l> !bcm43xx
[10:46] <k1l> z3n0ps: ^
[10:46] <raven_> traffic bonding: who has done that already? upstream to one device, downstream from another
[10:47] <sik> :/
[10:47] <sik> Should I just get the minimal installer and try to install 13.04?
[10:47] <sik> (and then hope that works)
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> sik: did you check your additional drivers?
[10:49] <sik> lotuspsychje: I'm stuck with the terminal!
[10:49] <z3n0ps> my Chip id is not displayed there ?
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> sik: did you try failsafeX from grub recovermode?
[10:49] <sik> Yes
[10:49] <sik> And nvidia-xconfig
[10:49] <sik> And custom Xorg.conf
[10:49] <sik> And no Xorg.conf
[10:49] <sik> Nothing works
[10:49] <FloodBot1> sik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> sik: did that happen to youy after an update?
[10:50] <bekks> !enter | sik
[10:50] <hotmedal> z3n0ps: you need the bcmwl-kernel-source
[10:50] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:50] <sik> lotuspsychje: no, suddenly earlier today after a reboot. Unless a security update broke it, I suppose (those install automatically).
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> sik: i had few users with same issues last night having this prob after a reboot/update
[10:51] <armin> hi, the "disable while typing" option in the touchpad preferences has no effect on my setup. anyone else experiencing this?
[10:51] <z3n0ps> hotmedal, I did the sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> sik: anything usefull to see in your logs?
[10:52] <hotmedal> z3n0ps: if that didn't help you thwn you and I are in the same boat.
[10:52] <ditchwindows> fixed my issue with the lagging with unity, thank god for gnome-session fallback!
[10:52] <hotmedal> I have a 4313, doesn't work
[10:52] <z3n0ps> I got couple of errors :- ERROR: Module b43 does not exist in /proc/modules
[10:52] <z3n0ps> ERROR: Module b43legacy does not exist in /proc/modules
[10:52] <z3n0ps> ERROR: Module ssb does not exist in /proc/modules
[10:52] <z3n0ps> ERROR: Module bcm43xx does not exist in /proc/modules
[10:52] <z3n0ps> ERROR: Module brcm80211 does not exist in /proc/modules
[10:52] <z3n0ps> ERROR: Module brcmfmac does not exist in /proc/modules
[10:52] <z3n0ps> ERROR: Module brcmsmac does not exist in /proc/modules
[10:52] <z3n0ps> ERROR: Module bcma does not exist in /proc/modules
[10:52] <FloodBot1> z3n0ps: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:52] <dementeddemigod> ditchwindows: how did you access it?
[10:53] <ditchwindows> sik: 13.04 never had the shell DE to change, i had to install gnome-session-fallback then it added the option to the login screen.
[10:53] <sik> lotuspsychje: could have been a security update that broke it...
[10:53] <sik> lotuspsychje: it says that the screen doesn't have an usable configuration so it refuses to use that (and since it's the only monitor it won't boot X afterwards)
[10:53] <sik> Ugh, so not installed by default? ._.'
[10:53] <ditchwindows> z3n0ps: please use http://paste.ubuntu.com/  for your error spam
[10:53] <connetcc> unity ........... you will scream............if you have a few browser window open
[10:53] <bekks> hotmedal: The 4313 works fine. What exactly did you do, and what "doesnt work" in detail?
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> sik: maybe xrandr can help?
[10:53] <ditchwindows> z3n0ps: sorry, floodbot beat me to it! haha
[10:53] <connetcc> you just can't navigate to each windows easily
[10:53] <sik> lotuspsychje: how?
[10:53] <ditchwindows> dementeddemigod: 13.04 never had the shell DE to change, i had to install gnome-session-fallback then it added the option to the login screen.
[10:53] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | sik
[10:54] <hotmedal> bekks: I tried wl, it shows me the connections and I can connect to open networks, but not secured ones
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> sik: not sure if this will work
[10:54] <sik> lotuspsychje: ...I mean what do I do with it >.>'
[10:54] <ditchwindows> sik: nope, apparently they took it out ; http://www.liberiangeek.net/2013/04/no-unity-here-enable-classic-gnome-in-ubuntu-13-04/ was a useful link
[10:54] <z3n0ps> What should i do  to install my wireless driver ? I tried everything ?
[10:54] <hotmedal> bcmsmac doesn't show anything
[10:54] <connetcc> why ubuntu come with the default "remote login " and " guest login" ?
[10:54] <bekks> hotmedal: Doesnt show - when doing what?
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> sik: maybe adding the resolution you need
[10:54] <connetcc> it's mind blowing
[10:54] <moose-machine> hi. i am thinking of buying the Microsoft Surface Pro. Does anyone know if I will be able to dual boot it with Ubuntu? It is really important for me else I won't buy.
[10:55] <hotmedal> in the dropdown menu of the tray after I modprobe it
[10:55] <MonkeyDust> connetcc  to improve the remote login experience
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> moose-machine: what does that program do?
[10:55] <sik> lotuspsychje: that's what I did with the custom Xorg.conf, the problem is that it outright won't even try the screen, period (and the Nvidia driver uses XRandR). Also X refuses to boot with the VESA driver too.
[10:55] <hotmedal> it does recognize the chip and allows me to soft on or off the wifi
[10:55] <the_eye_> I need to see ram speed from terminal. No root user. Any help ?
[10:56] <hotmedal> bekks: this is bcmsmac that I'm talking about
[10:56] <bekks> the_eye_: Without root user - no chance.
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> sik: how about booting into previous kernel to fix current issue
[10:56] <dementeddemigod> moose-machine: can't say for sure, but since there is now secure uefi support for linux boot it "should"
[10:56] <moose-machine> lotuspsychje: it is the Microsoft tablet
[10:56] <bekks> hotmedal: "doesnt recognize the chip" - how do you see that it doesnt do that?
[10:56] <raven_> traffic bonding: who has done that already? upstream to one device, downstream from another
[10:57] <moose-machine> lotuspsychje: ok. yes i haven't found much information to this effect online
[10:57] <hotmedal> bekks: I said that it does
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> !touch | moose-machine
[10:58] <moose-machine> lotuspsychje: fair enough. but it is not available yet and i need a tablet now.
[10:58] <dementeddemigod> lotuspsychje: the Surface Pro is the full x86-64 version
[10:58] <dementeddemigod> shouldn't need phablet version :)
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> dementeddemigod: yes but it wont have touch support
[10:59] <dementeddemigod> lotuspsychje: true
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> moose-machine: so if you plan to access the tablet by keyboard and mouse you can dualboot yes
[10:59] <sik> lotuspsychje: those people you said had problems last night, is there any pattern in common with their hardware?
[11:00] <moose-machine> dementeddemigod: yes. i also hear that the Surface Pro allows access to disable UEFI and is open as compared to the Surface RT. I was wondering if anyone had any experience with it. As it seems like an awesome tablet.
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> sik: i think it was only nvidia, and all got the problem after a reboot
[11:00] <z3n0ps> BCM43142 , guess it won't work argh >.<
[11:00] <sik> In case you wonder, my monitor is an IBM G74 (yes, I know, very old, but my last one broke and I needed a new one ASAP - I have this one since years by now though...)
[11:01] <dementeddemigod> moose-machine: do you mean disable secure uefi? or disable uefi entirely?
[11:01] <hotmedal> bekks: It's a weird problem, wl *almost* works. Just not the encrypted networks. Do you have any idea why that might be?
[11:01] <sik> lotuspsychje: probably after a reboot only because that's when X reconfigures itself :S
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> sik: i would go dig in /var/log to see whats happening
[11:01] <sik> lotuspsychje: that's how I found the message about the screen not having an usable configuration
[11:01] <moose-machine> dementeddemigod: i am not sure of the difference as I have no experience. I think it means disable secure uefi.
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> sik: can you still hit F1 after grub, or does it go blank before?
[11:02] <sik> lotuspsychje: more specifically?
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> sik: to see ubuntu booting messages
[11:02] <k1l> z3n0ps: http://askubuntu.com/questions/175104/how-do-i-install-bcm43142-wireless-drivers-for-dell-vostro-3460-3560
[11:02] <sik> lotuspsychje: Not very helpful, Ubuntu loads garbage as the font charset :(
[11:03] <sik> Only in recovery mode it doesn't
[11:03] <moose-machine> lotuspsychje: any idea if it performs just as well, i mean any news of hardware incompatibility on the Surface Pro?
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> sik: but recoverymode goes blank aswell hmm
[11:03] <sik> Eh, I'll try, though it does show some messages
[11:03] <sik> Um... ¿ :S ?
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> moose-machine: try ##hardware channel :p
[11:03] <dementeddemigod> moose-machine: if it is disable secure uefi then you don't need a signed (as in certified by a signing authority) uefi boot. If it is disable UEFI entirely then it reverts to BIOS style booting and you can install anything you like on it.
[11:04] <moose-machine> lotuspsychje: thanks for that. is ##hardware a linux specific room, or a generic hardware room? thx
[11:04] <sik> lotuspsychje: wait, doesn't recovery mode just show all the messages by default anyway?
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> moose-machine: hardware room
[11:04] <z3n0ps> k1l, i tried it :(
[11:04] <sik> It goes too fast for me to read anyway
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> sik: its fast :p
[11:04] <moose-machine> lotuspsychje: ok thx
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> sik: better dig logs
[11:04] <k1l> !details | z3n0ps
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> sik: how about booting previous kernel in grub ?
[11:05] <sik> The "previous" kernel I have is a broken 10.04 install that can't get past the login screen >_<'
[11:05] <raven_> traffic bonding: who has done that already? upstream to one device, downstream from another
[11:05] <sik> Unless there's some other update
[11:05] <sik> lotuspsychje: I'll try to see what I can find but the issue seems to be in X itself :/ BRB
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> sik: what was your ubuntu version again?
[11:06] <bhavesh> Suddenly internet stopped working on ubuntu, I thought its because of some failed package install.. But then I formatted Ubuntu partition and installed Linux Mint, still cannot connect
[11:06] <z3n0ps> I got Ubuntu 12.04 , I can't use my wireless card , it's not shown anywhere.
[11:06] <bhavesh> and astonishingly, internet speed is doubled on windows...
[11:07] <z3n0ps> CHIP ID : BCM43142
[11:07] <gotwig> YES. Out of the box Optimus support for ubuntu 13.10!
[11:08] <bekks> !mint | bhavesh
[11:08] <Sik> lotuspsychje: welp, guess what, that was it :X
[11:08] <Sik> Guess I should wait for the next kernel and use this one meanwhile?
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> sik: did that work for you?
[11:09] <Sik> Yep
[11:09] <Lorra> Hi guys, I'm a happy Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS user and I use Enlightenment 17, everytime I log in I get some notifications (network connectivity & volume) not via the cute e17 notification popups, but via the one's you can see in Unity which are slow and awful (in e17). If I logout and log back in, I get e17's notifications. Does anybody know how can I get e17's from the very first moment?
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> nice
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> sik: what ubuntu version you on again?
[11:09] <Sik> 12.04
[11:09] <Sik> Er 12.04 64-bit
[11:09] <Sik> Was considering yesterday about whether to update to 13.04 or wait some more, for the record
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> Sik: how would you like clean install 13.04, its rocketfast on 64bit
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> Sik: im running it on ssd
[11:10] <wadie> can someone please come on teamviewer to try and fix my never solved problem. it's network related.
[11:10] <lotuspsychje> !ask | wadie
[11:10] <Sik> lotuspsychje: I wish I had a SSD :P I only have a160GB hard disk :(
[11:10] <raven_> traffic bonding: who has done that already? upstream to one device, downstream from another
[11:11] <yeats> wadie: the way it works here is that you ask questions about what's not working for you and people answer in the main channel
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> Sik: 128g ssd isnt that expensive anymore, and real boost on your ubuntu box :p
[11:11] <Sik> lotuspsychje: Argentina :P And I barely have any money anyway :/
[11:11] <wadie> I can't load most of the sites while being able to load for example facebook. I have a router and a modem but this computer is wired.
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> Sik: oh ok my bad mate
[11:11] <Sik> Maybe when I start making some money for real I'll change the computer :P It's from Dec 2007!
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> Sik: at least you got a free Os :p
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> Sik: my desktop is still an old amd 3000+ and also rocketfast on ubuntu 13.04
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> Sik: ubuntu rebirths your hardware :p
[11:12] <Sik> Anyway, I'll see later, problem fixed for me at least
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Sik
[11:13] <Sik> lotuspsychje: if somebody else comes up with the same issue remember the kernel thing
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> Sik: i will tnx
[11:13] <Sik> Also I got forced to learn vim >.>' That was NOT fun
[11:13] <Sik> Anyway *whoosh*
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> haha
[11:14] <Nickeeh> Is there really no lldb for ubuntu? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=lldb&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> !info gvim > lotuspsychje
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> !find lldb
[11:15] <Nickeeh> I did the search, but perhaps the name is wrong or in some other package..
[11:21] <wadie> I can't load most of the sites while being able to load for example facebook. I have a router and a modem but this computer is wired.
[11:22] <dementeddemigod> wadie: what is the exact error you get?
[11:23] <wadie> the page keeps loading for a long while then I get a timeout error
[11:23] <wadie> both on chrome and firefox
[11:23] <Abus56> hi all
[11:23] <streulma> oh yes :) I can run a mailserver at home with a dynamic ip :)
[11:24] <the_eye_> wadie, try a router power off/on
[11:24] <wadie> tried,it doesn't help at all :\
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> wadie: what chipset has your ethernetcard
[11:25] <dementeddemigod> wadie: two things you could try to help narrow down the problem - in a terminal type nslookup followed by the web site you can't access. Then if that gives you an IP address try ping followed by the web site.  Let us know how they go
[11:25] <the_eye_> try an other network. To define problem source. Your pc or router ?
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> wadie: did it ever go fast on previous ubuntu versions or other Os?
[11:25] <wadie> the_eye_ it's probably something with my pc because I can connect to this router from another computer without any issues
[11:26] <wadie> dementeddemigod, one second!
[11:26] <wadie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5767515/
[11:28] <dementeddemigod> wadie: tried one of those IPs and it happily opened google, so your DNS isn't the problem. could you ping it?
[11:29] <Esokrates> my display flickers randomly (sometimes every few hours, somtimes ever few minutes). i don't have to do sth. to make it flicker. I have tried various boot parameters and also tried enabeling nvidia brightness control . The problem does still occur. To be sure it is no hardware issue, I tried windows and the problem does not seems to appear there. any suggestions?
[11:29] <Esokrates> (it is a brightness flicker)
[11:30] <Esokrates> (and there is only a single flicker)
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> Esokrates: what ubuntu version?
[11:32] <Esokrates> 13.04 but i am experiencing this since a long time and on different distributions
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> Esokrates: did you clean install or upgraded every time?
[11:32] <Esokrates> lcean
[11:32] <Magicarp> It seems my intake case fans RPM is stored in /sys/devices/platform/it87.552/fan2_input. If I change the value will it change the speed of the fan?
[11:32] <lotuspsychje> Esokrates: thats odd indeed, what graphics card?
[11:33] <Esokrates> lotuspsychje: nvidia quadro 1000M
[11:33] <Esokrates> lotuspsychje: using prop. drivers
[11:33] <streulma> Esokrates: on Mac the same problem, on Mountain Lion flickering, Lion not
[11:33] <lotuspsychje> Esokrates: ever tryed the other drivers?
[11:34] <streulma> Esokrates: I think it's a driver problem
[11:34] <Esokrates> lotuspsychje: different versions don't change the issue (have tried everything from 300.x nvidia drivers)
[11:34] <streulma> Esokrates: try installing bumblebee
[11:34] <Esokrates> streulma using the same card the mac issue?
[11:34] <streulma> Esokrates: no, but it's also Nvidia
[11:35] <Esokrates> streulma: what should bumblebee change?
[11:35] <streulma> Esokrates: hmm I think nothing, it just installs the nvidia 310 driver
[11:36] <Esokrates> streulma: i have nvidia 319 drivers
[11:36] <Esokrates> streulma: but as i said, the problem is version independent
[11:36] <wadie> dementeddemigod, ping the dns ?
[11:37] <summit> i'm trying to install Skype but under distro selection it only displays 10.04 32bit, 12.04 multiarch, would either of these work on the 13.04?
[11:37] <dementeddemigod> wadie: nope ping www.google.com. If that doesn't work try traceroute www.google.com. If ping does work there is something funny going on and will be a bit harder to diagnose
[11:38] <wadie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5767539/
[11:38] <wadie> seems to be working
[11:38] <streulma> summit: activate your Partner repo in /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:39] <lotuspsychje> summit: or choose from skype website
[11:39] <summit> streulma: i'm quite new to ubuntu.
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> summit: 12.04 multiarch works on 13.04 aswell
[11:40] <Esokrates> so there is nothing that can be done, apart from hoping the bug disappears in the future?
[11:40] <summit> lotuspsychje: thanks mate
[11:40] <z3n0ps> Error: "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.5.0-17-generic (i686)"
[11:40] <dementeddemigod> wadie: weird. you can't browse to it but you can ping it? have you installed a firewall at all?
[11:40] <wadie> no firewall
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> Esokrates: trying other drivers..opensource maybe?
[11:41] <streulma> Esokrates: yeah, think a driver problem, maybe you can try beta drivers? at your own risk
[11:41] <Esokrates> i am trying beta drivers already
[11:41] <Esokrates> opensource driver is not really an option
[11:42] <Esokrates> but it is completely independent from the window manager, that's for sure
[11:42] <Esokrates> and also ubuntu independent
[11:42] <lotuspsychje> Esokrates: i would go dig for similar bugs, and checkout solutions
[11:42] <Esokrates> kernel does not report any errors, backlight=vendor does not change anything, same for similar boot options
[11:43] <Esokrates> lotuspsychje: i have tried solutions of similar problems
[11:43] <Esokrates> lotuspsychje: none of them worked
[11:43] <dementeddemigod> wadie: being able to ping a site but not browse it is a pretty weird problem in a home network. In a corporate or other large network it'd make more sense. You can definitely get to it from other compters on the same network?
[11:43] <Esokrates> lotuspsychje: and i have to wait hours sometimes for the problem to appear
[11:43] <wadie> dementeddemigod, yes I can..
[11:44] <Esokrates> lotuspsychje: upgrading bios did not help
[11:44] <dementeddemigod> wadie: have you made any changes to the configuration of the router? (other than changing the username/password of course)
[11:44] <wadie> no I haven't
[11:45] <dementeddemigod> wadie: can you paste the output of sudo route and sudo ipconfig?
[11:46] <wadie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5767558/
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> Esokrates: http://askubuntu.com/questions/263996/fixing-the-nvidia-graphics-screen-flicker-issue
[11:47] <wadie> I get command not found for sudo ipconfig
[11:47] <dementeddemigod> wadie: sorry brain fart sudo ifconfig
[11:47] <dementeddemigod> ipconfig is a windows command :/
[11:48] <spexi> hah, so many times did that mistake myself too :D
[11:48] <wadie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5767571/
[11:49] <wadie> dementeddemigod, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5767571/ && http://paste.ubuntu.com/5767558/
[11:50] <dementeddemigod> wadie: thanks, just looking
[11:52] <dementeddemigod> wadie: can't see anything obvious. Your ifconfig suggests you're getting plenty of data trasmitted (1.4GB) so the connection isn't completely hosed. I'd want to start doing things like watching tcpdump or wireshark from here, and that's a little hard to diagnose without sitting and watching it. I'm sorry but you may have reached the limits of what I can do :(
[11:53] <wadie> thanks for your help dementeddemigod. I appreciate it!
[11:53] <dementeddemigod> wadie: no worries, sorry I wan't any help
[11:54] <SP33D> hi can some one plz point me to a easy way to turn of graphical booting
[11:54] <SP33D> i would love to turn it on when needed
[11:54] <SP33D> so easy restart or enable x booting would be nice
[11:55] <k1l> !text | SP33D
[11:55] <SP33D> ehm is there a other way
[11:55] <Noskcaj> Is anyone online a planet ubuntu mod? one of my posts broke
[11:56] <SP33D> i should say my case i think
[11:56] <SP33D> i setuped some virtual servers with ubuntu
[11:56] <SP33D> and now i simply wanna boot em so they are running without x
[11:56] <SP33D> so i need to do it without hiting keys on restart
[11:57] <SP33D> or such tasks
[11:57] <chrisirc> Where can I find musicians online using Debian or Ubuntu?
[11:57] <SP33D> i need to edit a file or such and then save and then reboot
[11:57] <SP33D> chrisirc simply do open a browser and google
[11:57] <chrisirc> find musicians who are using Debian/ubuntu
[11:57] <k1l> SP33D: you can boot into textmode and do a "sudo service lightdm start" to start x afterwards
[11:57] <SP33D> works well in ubuntu
[11:57] <Ben64> SP33D: read the link that you were given, it shows what to edit
[11:57] <SP33D> i did
[11:58] <SP33D> the link points to a different type of info
[11:58] <jrib> SP33D: read what ubottu said
[11:58] <k1l> chrisirc: if its a technical  support question ask here. other way ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:58] <Ben64> you did not read it in 26 seconds
[11:58] <SP33D> i read it it shows what keys to hit
[11:58] <tsimpson> SP33D: simply create a file /etc/init/lightdm.override with the contents "manual" (without quotes)
[11:58] <SP33D> on boot to enter grube menu
[11:58] <k1l> SP33D: i just told you some way it would work
[11:58] <tsimpson> that will stop lightdm from loading bt default
[11:58] <tsimpson> you can still start it manually
[11:58] <Ben64> SP33D: continue reading, there is more
[11:58] <chrisirc> I'm looking for a community link.
[11:59] <SP33D> tsimpson:  ill try
[11:59] <SP33D> i hope it works that sounds nice and k1l you told me good way to start it then thx
[11:59] <jrib> SP33D: no, read more carefully even just what ubottu said in this channel.  There are two alternatives, you can hit keys and edit grub during boot or just configure the option in grub's configuration files.  The details are in the link.  Stop pressing enter so much
[12:00] <tsimpson> SP33D: just "echo manual | sudo tee /etc/init/lightdm.override" should do it
[12:00] <jrib> SP33D: ubottu's way will be more general (in case you install a different dm than just stopping lightdm)
[12:00] <SP33D> jrib:  the solution with creating a override is cute
[12:00] <jrib> SP33D: sure, but it's specific to lightdm
[12:00] <SP33D> i am on lubuntu
[12:00] <SP33D> so thats well
[12:00] <SP33D> :D
[12:00] <SP33D> its realy well for me thx
[12:00] <jrib> SP33D: most DMs will check if you booted with the "text" option and not start if so
[12:01] <SP33D> don't wanna use other dm's
[12:01] <SP33D> i am sure :D
[12:01] <SP33D> lubuntu is realy well
[12:01] <Ben64> SP33D: you should learn to do things the proper way
[12:01] <jrib> SP33D: ok, well configuring grub is a better, more general, solution imo; but do what you want
[12:01] <Noskcaj> One of my posts to planet ubuntu has broken. can someone help?
[12:02] <Ben64> Noskcaj: go find a support avenue for whatever "planet ubuntu" is then? this is for ubuntu the operating system
[12:02] <k1l> Noskcaj: maybe its better to contact the planet admin/mods direct?
[12:03] <Noskcaj> k1l, i don't know how to. the rt@ubuntu email just gives an automated responce
[12:03] <Noskcaj> Ben64, i've tried
[12:03] <SP33D> jrib: thx for that advice i understand why you do it but i am not a geek i wanna code my stuff and be happy :D i am a one person company
[12:03] <floogy> Hi, I get on showmount -e
[12:03] <SP33D> so it is ok
[12:03] <floogy> clnt_create: RPC: Port mapper failure - Authentication error
[12:04] <jrib> SP33D: ok, but it's not coding stuff; it's just editing a different file
[12:04] <floogy> On, sudo rpcinfo -p localhost
[12:04] <floogy> rpcinfo: can't contact portmapper: RPC: Authentication error; why = Client credential too weak
[12:04] <SP33D> jrib right that but i do run this virtual machine coz my coding stuff
[12:04] <floogy> I already did : echo 'OPTIONS="-w -i"' | sudo tee /etc/default/rpcbind
[12:04] <SP33D> its a simply mysql server and such stuff
[12:04] <floogy> and restarted the service
[12:04] <SP33D> i run it as vm and then transfer it to amzon ^^
[12:05] <jrib> SP33D: ok.
[12:07] <SP33D> has some one a easy way to decrypt the complet file system?
[12:07] <SP33D> i installed one time encrypted and forgotten that i will need to start the machine remote
[12:07] <SP33D> and automated
[12:07] <SP33D> :D
[12:08] <Esokrates> lotuspsychje: okay thank you ... i have already found this thread but never tried the solution
[12:08] <SP33D> so it can be a realy insecure method
[12:08] <jrib> SP33D: please stop using enter as punctuation.  Try to keep your messages to one line
[12:08] <Esokrates> lotuspsychje: i will do it now
[12:09] <SP33D> some one knows a insecure method to turn of or decrypt or autologin on boot into a crypted file system from basic install?
[12:11] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[12:11] <Wiz_KeeD> how do i download a file via ssh?
[12:11] <Wiz_KeeD> the ports 80 and ftp are blocked :(
[12:11] <k1l> Wiz_KeeD: use scp
[12:12] <SP33D> oh when i boot into text only don't i should get after login a normal bash prompt
[12:12] <SP33D> or the same as terminal?
[12:12] <k1l> SP33D: it goes to tty login
[12:12] <jrib> SP33D: you should get a login prompt in a tty
[12:12] <SP33D> ya thats right and then?
[12:12] <k1l> SP33D: and then what?
[12:13] <SP33D>  coz i can enter text after login i got a message about warenty and then
[12:13] <SP33D> i can do nothing
[12:13] <SP33D> no ls
[12:13] <SP33D> nothing
[12:13] <FloodBot1> SP33D: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:13] <k1l> SP33D: that is a regular tty
[12:13] <SP33D> FloodBot1: sorry right sorry
[12:13] <SP33D> k1l how to switch to something usefull :D
[12:13] <SP33D> like bin bash or else
[12:13] <k1l> o_O
[12:13] <Wiz_KeeD> k1l, to actually download not push from a server to another?
[12:14] <Wiz_KeeD> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/TransferFiles
[12:14] <Wiz_KeeD> i can't make it out of this
[12:14] <k1l> you wanted textmode. so there it is. its the dash. dont you know how terminal commands work?
[12:14] <k1l> Wiz_KeeD: you can use scp like cp on your own system
[12:14] <SP33D> ah took time
[12:15] <SP33D> maybe i setted to low resorces now i get a normal prompt with user@pc
[12:15] <SP33D> :D
[12:15] <Wiz_KeeD> ahhh
[12:15] <Wiz_KeeD> SWEET!
[12:15] <Wiz_KeeD> that was so easy, thanks k1l
[12:15] <Wiz_KeeD> i really didn't except to finish so fast :))
[12:15] <k1l> Wiz_KeeD: no problem
[12:15] <garo> if i would install a MTA that would just send everything it receives ( mails to *@mydomain.com ) to my gmail account, would gmail keep filtering it or will it block my server after a while if i don't start filtering out spam
[12:16] <SP33D> garo: nope it will not
[12:16] <garo> good :)
[12:17] <SP33D> oh i am so happy that the server now starts in text mode
[12:17] <SP33D> :D
[12:17] <SP33D> i only hope it starts all services without login :D
[12:18] <k1l> SP33D: if its a server you could have tried server install from the start
[12:18] <SP33D> nope i whanted to try to get a minmal system but that fail
[12:18] <SP33D> since my expirence is to less
[12:18] <SP33D> my dream would be a realy little linux with only mysql-server running
[12:18] <SP33D> :D
[12:19] <shadej> when i enable the ssl mod on apache it is httpd is stoping
[12:19] <shadej> ?
[12:19] <SP33D> but thats still a dream :D
[12:19] <k1l> SP33D: you dont need all that desktop stuff fopr that
[12:19] <SP33D> shadej: what do you mean if you enable a mod it needs restarting yes
[12:19] <SP33D> k1l i know but i don't knowed how to remove all that stuff
[12:19] <shadej> I did restart it
[12:19] <hasenj> window manager not working on 13.04, tried `sudo start lightdm` in tty1, said already running
[12:19] <SP33D> like i sayed my dream would be to know whats the minimal usefull system
[12:20] <k1l> SP33D: you dont need to remove that
[12:20] <SP33D> so i can simply use sshd and a shell prompt and mysqlserver
[12:20] <k1l> SP33D: ubuntu ships server installs (minimal isntalls)
[12:20] <SP33D> how big are they?
[12:20] <SP33D> :D
[12:20] <shadej> SP33D: during restart it says port in use but status is ok
[12:20] <shadej> when i issue the command "nmap localhost"
[12:20] <shadej> i can not see port 80
[12:21] <SP33D> shadej simply turn apache of and start it
[12:21] <SP33D> if port is still in use then maybe the ip is wrong
[12:21] <k1l> SP33D: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server/install-ubuntu-server
[12:22] <SP33D> k1l: 700mb looks as big
[12:22] <shadej> SP33D: which ip ?
[12:22] <SP33D> as my lubuntu alternate install
[12:22] <shadej> the server is on my localhost
[12:22] <SP33D> shadej: it gets bound to ip:port
[12:22] <k1l> SP33D: its not about the size of the iso
[12:22] <k1l> SP33D: its about the stuff that gets installed
[12:22] <SP33D> k1l:  how big is such a install do you know it?
[12:23] <k1l> SP33D: the whole desktop stuff is not needed for a server which only is supposed to run mysql
[12:23] <SP33D> k1l i know i only used it coz i installed lubuntu coz i liked the distri
[12:23] <shadej> SP33D: WAIT ME A SECOND
[12:23] <SP33D> but i think there could be a way to have like only 300 mb or maybe less big linux
[12:24] <SP33D> only for sshd and shell prompt and mysql
[12:24] <k1l> its like driving a truck just to carry shoebox
[12:24] <SP33D> i tryed often this realy small linux editions but all wasn't useable in production
[12:24] <k1l> SP33D: i like trucks. but its not about liking trucks when you dont need a truck
[12:24] <SP33D> k1l but in the truck is engout space if something is needed
[12:24] <jerry5> How can I modify Ubuntu to auto shutdown if the password entered in the screen unlock is wrong?
[12:25] <k1l> SP33D: "extra space" is just weight that is not needed at all.
[12:25] <SP33D> k1l yes thats what i am talking about but you still don't answered
[12:25] <SP33D> how big is such a server install
[12:25] <k1l> you can install the "stuff that is needed" if you want on top of that server install. but its way more lightweight from the start
[12:26] <k1l> SP33D: i dont know exactly. that depends on your needs. but a desktop install has alot of services installed and started that you dont need for just running ssh and mysql
[12:27] <k1l> that is what i tried to say from the beginning: if you want a server, dont install a desktop
[12:27] <kaki> hello everybody! i have an issue with grub and luks+lvm. is there anybody who can help me?
[12:27] <Esokrates> jerry5: that would be insane
[12:27] <cameor> do they have toilet paper in romania?
[12:28] <Esokrates> jerry5: you could loose all your data, as all applications would get killed
[12:28] <k1l> !ot | cameor
[12:28] <cameor> k1l: where can i ask it
[12:28] <kaki> !guidelines
[12:28] <jerry5> Esokrates, It's OK I won't leave apps open.
[12:29] <cameor> k1l: where can i ask it
[12:29] <cameor> do they have toilet paper in romania?
[12:29] <k1l> cameor: enough of that in here
[12:29] <cameor> k1l: where can i ask it
[12:31] <WILLdude> Hi. I can't add-apt-repository. I've installed python-software-properties and software-properties-common though
[12:31] <k1l> WILLdude: what is the error you get?
[12:31] <WILLdude> sudo: add-apt-repostory: command not found
[12:32] <tom95> hi, are there any docs on writing indicators with libindicator3 (not appindicator3)? I can't get it to work, not even when copying the code of the existing indicators exactly
[12:32] <k1l> WILLdude: which ubuntu is this exactly?
[12:33] <WILLdude> 13.04
[12:34] <k1l> WILLdude: there is a typo
[12:34] <k1l> WILLdude: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:    not repostory
[12:35] <Guest50775> hi all,
[12:37] <Guest50775> once I look an account, will any user currently connected get looged out ? if not, other then resart is there a way to disconnect any user  from the now locked account
[12:38] <SP33D> oh my god
[12:38] <WILLdude> Well spotted.
[12:39] <SP33D> i found a tutorial to use damn small linux with mysql server :D
[12:39] <SP33D> ya
[12:39] <jerry5> Where can I get the Ubuntu source code?
[12:39] <hotmedal> bekks: I finally solved my problem
[12:39] <SP33D> jerry5: via git svn?
[12:39] <SP33D> what do you whant?
[12:39] <hotmedal> I'm writing a blog post about it
[12:40] <k1l> jerry5: archive.ubuntu.com
[12:40] <jerry5> I want to  modify Ubuntu to auto shutdown if the password entered in the screen unlock pw is wrong
[12:40] <jerry5> ty k1l l
[12:41] <spyder> is there some equivalent of wgetpaste on ubuntu
[12:41] <spyder> ?
[12:41] <k1l> spyder: you mean: pastebinit ?
[12:41] <adie> hi
[12:48] <spyder> is there some equivalent of wgetpaste on ubuntu?
[12:48] <raven_> traffic bonding: who has done that already? upstream to one device, downstream from another
[12:54] <Eagleman> After installing some git packages, apt-get is whining about something missing, however i do not want turbolift to be uninstalled, but there seems no other option, what could i do?  http://hpaste.org/89954
[12:57] <shadej> apache saying port in use
[12:57] <shadej> any help
[12:57] <SP33D> raven_: http://serverfault.com/questions/22253/ubuntu-linux-multiple-nics-same-lan-arp-responses-always-go-out-a-single-n
[12:57] <SP33D> thats what you a searching for
[12:57] <shadej> SP33D:
[12:58] <SP33D> Shade when you do: ps aux | grep apache
[12:58] <SP33D> do you get a result that apache is running?
[13:00] <SP33D> yes or no?
[13:00] <SP33D> if it says yes simply to kill -9 and the pid number ^^
[13:00] <shadej> SP33D: no
[13:00] <shadej> sorrry
[13:00] <SP33D> if it don't do "sudo lsof -i"
[13:01] <SP33D> look if port 80 is opened and by what
[13:01] <SP33D> do sudo lsof -i :80
[13:01] <SP33D> then you see only what is on port 80
[13:02] <natrixnatrix89> what is the best way to add a daemon to be launched on system boot?
[13:02] <SP33D> natrix system service or init.d script
[13:02] <shadej> SP33D:  is not this simple
[13:02] <shadej> nmap localhost
[13:02] <Eagleman> After installing some git packages, apt-get is whining about something missing, however i do not want turbolift to be uninstalled, but there seems no other option, what could i do?  http://hpaste.org/89954
[13:02] <SP33D> no nmap needed
[13:02] <SP33D> do
[13:02] <SP33D> sudo lsof -i :80
[13:03] <SP33D> and past the result any where
[13:03] <SP33D> if it shows no result port 80 isn't open or in use
[13:03] <SP33D> it is so easy
[13:03] <SP33D> :D
[13:03] <shadej> there is a result
[13:04] <natrixnatrix89> should I write init.d script?
[13:04] <shadej> natrixnatrix89: no
[13:04] <natrixnatrix89> for example if I want to launch a node.js app..
[13:04] <Isolol> Eagleman, have you tried reinstalling python entirely?
[13:04] <natrixnatrix89> and run 'forever' on init..
[13:04] <shadej> there many init scripts there
[13:05] <shadej> init.d is a folder
[13:05] <natrixnatrix89> well apache for example.. It runs on system startup because of it's init.d script, right?
[13:06] <shadej> yeah, there is a script that will make apache run at start up under the folder init.d
[13:06] <natrixnatrix89> shadej: How do I add my script to service?
[13:07] <SP33D> sudo ln /opt/beispielapp/apache-tomcat/bin/catalina.sh /etc/init.d/catalina
[13:07] <SP33D> sudo update-rc.d catalina defaults
[13:07] <shadej> natrixnatrix89:  do you want only to make it start up at boot time?
[13:07] <shadej>  or you want the controls like start stop reload ?
[13:08] <dark> bonjour :-)
[13:08] <natrixnatrix89> basically yes.. What else could I want? like adding service controls like "reload".. I think just start will suffice
[13:08] <SP33D> this example adds catalina.sh <- the script to start to /etc/init.d directory and then adds it with update-rc.d catalina defaults t
[13:08] <shadej> ok if start is enough
[13:08] <SP33D> autostart
[13:08] <shadej> there is simpler way i think
[13:09] <SP33D> i think most simply is to have a shell script in init.d dir
[13:09] <Encrypt> Hi everybody! :)
[13:09] <shadej> natrixnatrix89: do you know .deskto file
[13:09] <SP33D> and then add it with update-rc.d
[13:09] <Encrypt> I'm tring to configure Gwibber for my new twitter account on Ubuntu 12.04
[13:09] <shadej> SP33D: for beginner just putting .desktop file is easy
[13:09] <natrixnatrix89> well I need it on ubuntu server
[13:09] <SP33D> shadej: but what if he don't logs into desktop don't know what he exactly whants
[13:09] <Encrypt> But everytime I configure y account, an internal errors occurs :(
[13:09] <Encrypt> So, I couldn't get t working :(
[13:10] <SP33D> desktop file gets readed after login
[13:10] <shadej> SP33D: sure that is another question
[13:10] <natrixnatrix89> so then I guess the most appropriate way would be SP33D s suggestion
[13:10] <SP33D> right i would think that too
[13:10] <SP33D> :D
[13:10] <shadej> natrixnatrix89: yeah, and if you are using a server
[13:11] <natrixnatrix89> so basically catalina.sh could contain just 2 lines: #! /bin/bash
[13:11] <natrixnatrix89> forever myscript.js
[13:11] <Eagleman> Isolol, is that a serious request?
[13:11] <Neozonz> Can someone help me? Just installed ubuntu but when I try to watch a video I get alot of choppyness
[13:11] <SP33D> right
[13:11] <Neozonz> screen tears and what not
[13:11] <natrixnatrix89> awesome..
[13:11] <shadej> natrixnatrix89:  am telling to open one of the start up scripts and have a look at them
[13:11] <SP33D> where catalina.sh was a example script
[13:12] <natrixnatrix89> another issue.. I just compiled ffmpeg..
[13:12] <SP33D> you can simply if you don't got any run script make a text file with your start stuff put it into /etc/init.d
[13:12] <narcos> Hi all. I want to update my timezone - most tutorials suggest using 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata', but is there a non-interactive method?
[13:12] <natrixnatrix89> But the weird thing is.. when I try to run it, I get this error: The program 'ffmpeg' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[13:12] <natrixnatrix89> also whereis ffmpeg doesn't say anything
[13:12] <SP33D> and then run "sudo update-rc.d yourfile"
[13:12] <SP33D> and it gets startet
[13:12] <Isolol> Eagleman, python-datetime (your missing dependency) installed w/ python on my VM w/ no problem. So I don't know why you are being sarcastic.
[13:13] <natrixnatrix89> and which doesn't help too
[13:13] <SP33D> ya install ffmpeg soo
[13:13] <SP33D> apt-get install ffmpeg
[13:13] <shadej> hah.
[13:13] <SP33D> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg i mean
[13:13] <SP33D> :D
[13:13] <natrixnatrix89> nope.. I want my compiled version
[13:13] <SP33D> sorry
[13:13] <Eagleman> Isolol, how can it be installed when it is not in the repository?
[13:13] <SP33D> then simply put it into the path
[13:14] <Neozonz> how can i fix screentears during video playback?
[13:14] <SP33D> or simply use /full/path/ffmpeg
[13:14] <SP33D> in your script
[13:14] <natrixnatrix89> right..
[13:14] <SP33D> sure that is right :D
[13:14] <SP33D> i wanna help you
[13:14] <natrixnatrix89> it's just weird that make install didn't put it the right path..
[13:14] <SP33D> it did
[13:14] <kaki> hello everybody! i have an issue with grub and luks+lvm. is there anybody who can help me?
[13:14] <natrixnatrix89> in the local directory..
[13:14] <SP33D> but probally in a user  profil that is not loged in
[13:14] <SP33D> at this starting point
[13:15] <natrixnatrix89> basically I can use it in /home/janis/ffmpeg_sources/ffmpeg
[13:15] <shadej> SP33D:  lsof -i:80 is giving this result
[13:15] <shadej> firefox 24135 ubuntuhx   51u  IPv4 1177241      0t0  TCP mitDesktop.local:58153->par03s03-in-f1.1e100.net:http (ESTABLISHED)
[13:15] <theos> hi
[13:16] <theos> i cant use my usb mouse. i get the error: Cannot enable port 1.  Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[13:17] <theos> it used to work in 10.04. isnt working on 13.04. i need help!
[13:17] <SP33D> shadej: that says that port 80 is free
[13:17] <SP33D> so you configured anything wrong
[13:18] <SP33D> search you conf file for  listen
[13:18] <SP33D> and make sure there is only listen *:80
[13:18] <SP33D> in it
[13:18] <shadej> is it httpd.conf?
[13:18] <SP33D> jep that should it be
[13:19] <natrixnatrix89> SP33D: if I'm on ubuntu server.. And I have some executables in ~/bin/ folder.. Why don't they run when I'm in home directory?
[13:19] <checoimg> kaki : Does this help ? http://citizen428.net/blog/2011/10/17/fixing-grub-on-a-luks-encrypted-disk
[13:19] <natrixnatrix89> It looks like ffmpeg installed in ~/bin
[13:20] <natrixnatrix89> Why do I have to make a symlink to /usr/local/bin ?
[13:20] <SP33D> hmmmmm good question at all what do you mean with not run
[13:20] <SP33D> use on terminal: /home/user/bin/ffmpeg
[13:20] <SP33D> does that work?
[13:20] <natrixnatrix89> sure it does..
[13:20] <SP33D> what do you then mean?
[13:20] <SP33D> with it don't runs?
[13:20] <Eagleman> After installing some git packages, apt-get is whining about something missing, however i do not want turbolift to be uninstalled, but there seems no other option, what could i do?  http://hpaste.org/89954
[13:20] <natrixnatrix89> bare ffmpeg doesn't run..
[13:21] <natrixnatrix89> it runs if I add a symlink to /usr/local/bin/ffmpeg though..
[13:21] <SP33D> maybe wrong permissions of the home dir
[13:21] <SP33D> and the running user
[13:21] <SP33D> so the symlink is a good idea
[13:21] <SP33D> :D
[13:24] <kaki> checoimg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5767819/
[13:24] <shadej> SP33D:  I think the problem is with ssl mod
[13:24] <shadej> when i disable this module it is working
[13:25] <SP33D> shadej then do with ssl port
[13:25] <SP33D> or disable ssl
[13:25] <SP33D> you don't need it
[13:25] <SP33D> i don't think you own a cert that is accepted so
[13:25] <SP33D> it don't matters
[13:25] <SP33D> :D
[13:26] <shadej> SP33D: oh no my aim is to set up virtual ssl
[13:26] <ben__> Hello?
[13:27] <ben__> aw fhuck
[13:27] <SP33D> shadej oh then you need to check whats blocking the ssl port
[13:27] <SP33D> in the ssl conf
[13:27] <ben__> i have one question
[13:27] <SP33D> it is maybe a extra file
[13:28] <SP33D> ben__: ask
[13:28] <ben__> when you download ubuntu, Does it remove you existing os
[13:28] <Spawnny> Hi guys, i need some help regarding ubuntu, i deleted a user thru the command line, but its still showing up in webmin as #100x , and it has used some diskspace, how do i completly remove it ?
[13:29] <shadej> SP33D: where is ssl conf?
[13:29] <SP33D> most times if you use standart it is in /etc/apache2/
[13:30] <SP33D> depends even on where your httpd.conf ist
[13:30] <SP33D> :D
[13:30] <SP33D> but your in wrong channel go to #httpd
[13:30] <SP33D> they will help you this is ubuntu and should be ubuntu related
[13:31] <Eagleman> After installing some git packages, apt-get is whining about something missing, however i do not want turbolift to be uninstalled, but there seems no other option, what could i do?  http://hpaste.org/89954
[13:32] <checoimg> kaki : file a bug. Have you googled the terminal output ?
[13:34] <symptom> how do i start sshd on a headless liveusb-system?
[13:34] <checoimg> kaki : I have to go AFK now so good luck if you google it.
[13:35] <kaki> checoimg: thanks
[13:37] <jerry5> how can i disable services in ubuntu?
[13:41] <titouan> hello !
[13:41] <contrapunctus> Guys, my trackpad enable button doesn't seem to work in Ubuntu (oddly enough used to work in Mint 12). Please help :(
[13:41] <yeats> !init | jerry5
[13:42] <ripthejacker> hi every one
[13:42] <ripthejacker> just installed raring 64bit version
[13:42] <ripthejacker> and i'm getting this error on boot: error: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found
[13:42] <ripthejacker> please help
[13:42] <jerry5> yeats, TY. What's !init ?
[13:43] <titouan> ripthejacker: you uses grub2 ou just grub ?
[13:43] <ripthejacker> titouan: I did not specify any version
[13:43] <Encrypt> I'm back!
[13:44] <ripthejacker> titouan: I installed using liveusb
[13:44] <Encrypt> I tried to apt-get purge gwibber and reinstalling it...
[13:44] <titouan> ripthejacker: you install the grub by default or manually ?
[13:44] <Encrypt> But I still get an internal error :(
[13:44] <titouan> ripthejacker: ok
[13:44] <ripthejacker> titouan: by default
[13:44] <Encrypt> I can't get twitter working :(
[13:44] <Eagleman> After installing some git packages, apt-get is whining about something missing, however i do not want turbolift to be uninstalled, but there seems no other option, what could i do?  http://hpaste.org/89954
[13:45] <titouan> ripthejacker: ripthejacker you have try to boot whith the cdlive ?
[13:45] <ripthejacker> titouan: i completed installation and when I try to boot into that newly installed system i'm seeing this error
[13:46] <ripthejacker> titouan: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1155993
[13:46] <Encrypt> Has anybody an idea for me? :(
[13:46] <ripthejacker> titouan: it says to update grub
[13:46] <titouan> ripthejacker: yes, but, when you boot using a livecd there are  an option : boot with an existant operating system
[13:47] <titouan> ripthejacker: look about grub-update
[13:47] <ripthejacker> I didn't see any option like that
[13:47] <ripthejacker> titouan: ok thanks i'll try that
[13:47] <jerry5> Does Ubuntu need an antivirus?
[13:47] <titouan> ripthejacker: or grub install with options
[13:48] <titouan> jerry5: no
[13:48] <titouan> jerry5: you can, but your don't need it
[13:48] <ripthejacker> titouan: yes that is probably what I want
[13:48] <ripthejacker> titouan: can you give me a link to the procedure?
[13:49] <titouan> ripthejacker: yes but in french :D
[13:49] <titouan> ripthejacker: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/grub-pc
[13:50] <OerHeks> !grub
[13:50] <titouan> ripthejacker: you should be able to find an english equivalent
[13:50] <ripthejacker> haha
[13:50] <ripthejacker> yeah
[13:51] <ripthejacker> titouan: thank you for your troubles :)
[13:51] <titouan> ripthejacker: your welcome
[13:55] <Encrypt> Nobody experiences a bug while configuring twitter on Gwibber?
[13:55] <Encrypt> experienced*
[13:56] <OerHeks> Is there an Ubuntu-fake-PAE to install on an Intel Pentium M ? like this one for lubuntu >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE
[13:56] <Asad2005> I have the evolution folder from my arch linux, i copied it and chown its content to my ubuntu home but it did not bring my messages is there away to migrate from these folders?
[13:57] <shadej> apache error message
[13:57] <shadej> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName
[13:57] <shadej> help?
[13:57] <X-Sleepy-X> shadej: You need something in /etc/hosts
[13:58] <shadej> X-Sleepy-X: something?
[13:58] <X-Sleepy-X> shadej: like 111.111.111.111 (this would be your IP) domain.com computername
[13:58] <Eagleman> After installing some git packages, apt-get is whining about something missing, however i do not want turbolift to be uninstalled, but there seems no other option, what could i do?  http://hpaste.org/89954
[13:58] <X-Sleepy-X> shadej: You just need to add the domain name infront of the computer name
[13:58] <shadej> i have 127.0.0.1 computername
[13:58] <Encrypt> Well... I think the best I have to do is to forget about using Gwibber and use Twitter's web interface...
[13:59] <user____> hi. I fail at mounting a swap partition and have no clue why
[13:59] <user____> this is what i get when i click on swap parttion icon http://pastebin.com/XuLG5hd2
[13:59] <user____> blkid GIVES http://pastebin.com/nCs6CdDM
[13:59] <user____> sudo mount /dev/sda5 says /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 does not exist
[13:59] <X-Sleepy-X> shadej: then enter 127.0.0.1 my.domain.com computername
[14:00] <OerHeks> i never use swap with encrypted partitions
[14:01] <shadej> X-Sleepy-X: thank you
[14:01] <shadej> solved
[14:01] <X-Sleepy-X> shadej: yw
[14:06] <CreepyAnimal> Hey everyone ;) SO i go to https://panopticlick.eff.org/ to check how rare is my browser fingerprint, and i saw that i using many system fonts... How that happen how, they get there ? And how can i remove them ?
[14:06] <shadej> X-Sleepy-X:  i am having a trouble with setting ssl mod
[14:06] <shadej> help please
[14:07] <Bronze> OerHeks: so do you zero out the swap area as you release/free it?
[14:07] <Bronze> OerHeks: if you don't, your info is sitting in tghe swap area in cleartext...
[14:07] <OerHeks> Bronze, i never use swap with encrypted partitions, so no need to clear/protect it anyhowe
[14:08] <X-Sleepy-X> shadej: isn't it activated by default? oterwise a2enmod ...
[14:08] <Bronze> OerHeks: ah, I misread your initial statement. My apologies. :-)
[14:08] <shadej> X-Sleepy-X: no it is not enabled by default
[14:08] <shadej> yeah i sued a2enmod ssl
[14:08] <OerHeks> Bronze, i wonder if swap is enabed by default for encrypted filesystems
[14:08] <shadej> but when i do that
[14:09] <shadej> httpd is stoping
[14:09] <Bronze> OerHeks: excellent point. I don't know.
[14:09] <X-Sleepy-X> shadej: what do you find in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled ?
[14:09] <hitew> hello
[14:10] <ame> ciao
[14:10] <Eagleman> After installing some git packages, apt-get is whining about something missing, however i do not want turbolift to be uninstalled, but there seems no other option, what could i do?  http://hpaste.org/89954
[14:10] <ame> !list
[14:10] <hitew> Hello, I  want to do some beta testing
[14:10] <shadej> ssl.conf and ssl.load are there
[14:10] <hitew> What bet should I download
[14:10] <hitew> What beta version should I download
[14:11] <superlinux-hp> hi. I cannot shift any icon up or down in the applications menu of gnome. the move-up and move-down buttons are not responding to me at all . what should i do?
[14:11] <shadej> X-Sleepy-X:  ssl.con and ssl.load are there
[14:11] <X-Sleepy-X> shadej: that's good, hang on for a minute and i will check an existing server which has it activated
[14:12] <user____> someone knowin solution for my problem?
[14:16] <hotmedal> For future reference: http://hotmedal.blogspot.com/2013/06/bcm4313-wifi-driver-on-ubuntu-1304.html
[14:16] <X-Sleepy-X> shadej: seems like you have ssl activated, most likely there's just some information missing in a conf
[14:16] <X-Sleepy-X> shadej: i'm still looking around
[14:17] <shadej> X-Sleepy-X: ok
[14:17] <shadej> X-Sleepy-X: btw, i did not add anything to the conf.
[14:17] <hotmedal> Since I don't lurk here much and since many people have problems with Broadcom, let them know of this possible solution
[14:18] <minimec> user____: THe fs type is wrong I guess. The line in /etc/fstab should look something like this: UUID=c4e278cb-6f1b-3592-ad38-169ca77368df none            swap    sw              0       0
[14:18] <user____> minimec: EXACTLY what i tried
[14:19] <X-Sleepy-X> shadej: do you have a file called /etc/apache2/ports.conf ?
[14:19] <user____> i try again for you and tell the result
[14:19] <shadej> X-Sleepy-X: yes
[14:19] <X-Sleepy-X> in it, does it say something like "ifmodule... listen 443!
[14:19] <shadej> yes
[14:20] <X-Sleepy-X> good
[14:20] <user____> minimec:
[14:20] <shadej> X-Sleepy-X: i do have this too
[14:20] <shadej> NameVirtualHost *:80
[14:20] <shadej> Listen 80
[14:20] <shadej> is it necessary to put both of them
[14:20] <shadej> may this could be the problem
[14:20] <minimec> user____: So I don't knoe why the system is not recognizing the fs type. I you used a swap file as option. 'They' say, that there shouldn't be a difference in speed and handling.
[14:20] <X-Sleepy-X> shadej: do you want to force ssl?
[14:21] <user____> minimec: i tried much
[14:21] <shadej> X-Sleepy-X: no
[14:21] <user____> but thx for your suggestion
[14:21] <ThothCastel> I am trying to check my dns caching server by using the dig command
[14:21] <ThothCastel> what do I have to look at?
[14:21] <shadej> X-Sleepy-X: wht i mean isn't  NameVritualHOst *:80 enough ?
[14:21] <ThothCastel> I'm trying this https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/dns-troubleshooting.html#dns-testing-dig
[14:22] <shadej> why do we need to add listen 80?
[14:22] <X-Sleepy-X> shadej: have you tried sudo a2ensite default-ssl ?
[14:22] <ThothCastel> but I see no difference betwen first and second dig command
[14:22] <shadej> X-Sleepy-X: yes
[14:22] <shadej> it is already enabled
[14:23] <X-Sleepy-X> shadej: have you created a certificate?
[14:26] <Eagleman> After installing some git packages, apt-get is whining about something missing, however i do not want turbolift to be uninstalled, but there seems no other option, what could i do?  http://hpaste.org/89954
[14:27] <X-Sleepy-X> shadej: apache and ssl isn't my strongest side, have just played around with a few times. my best suggestion would be to read as many guides about it as possible, like https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/serverguide/httpd.html#https-configuration or so
[14:28] <shadej> X-Sleepy-X: ok
[14:29] <X-Sleepy-X> shadej: also, check out #ubuntu-server
[14:31] <RELOL> hi i have slow internet an latency with atheros 9285
[14:31] <Asad2005> I have the evolution folder from my arch linux, i copied it and chown its content to my ubuntu home but it did not bring my messages is there away to migrate from these folders?
[14:32] <RELOL> ubunti 12.10
[14:32] <X-Sleepy-X> RELOL: I have 03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[14:32] <ThothCastel> I'm trying this https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/dns-troubleshooting.html#dns-testing-dig  but I see no difference in the output between the first and the second dig commands
[14:32] <X-Sleepy-X> RELOL: in 13.04 and i have no problems
[14:33] <RELOL> i disabled ipv6 hwcypt
[14:33] <RELOL> i'm unable to install or "apt-get upgrade" anything with a 12Kb/s connection
[14:34] <X-Sleepy-X> RELOL: how does you AP settings look?
[14:34] <RELOL> X-Sleepy-X, g mode + no encription
[14:35] <RELOL> Dhcp enabled, no mac filtering
[14:35] <contrapunctus> Can someone please help me get my touchpad enable/disable key working? It worked on Mint 12, but isn't working on Xubuntu 12.04 :\
[14:35] <X-Sleepy-X> RELOL: and you get good speed with cable?
[14:36] <RELOL> yes, and also with a Suse-based distro
[14:38] <theos> i cant use my usb mouse. i get the error: Cannot enable port 1.  Maybe the USB cable is bad? it used to work in 10.04. isnt working on 13.04. i need help!
[14:38] <purezen> Hey guys..! What's the best way to install nVidia proprietary drivers..?
[14:38] <bekks> apt-get install nvidia-current ?
[14:38] <purezen> I am using 12.10 x64 on 630M..
[14:39] <purezen> bekks: Thanks.. but I read something about 'ubuntu-x-swat'..
[14:39] <purezen> Shall I use that..?
[14:39] <bekks> !ppa | purezen
[14:39] <Asad2005> am i out of lock, i need my messages from evolution, i have the old home folder back up
[14:40] <Asad2005> *luck
[14:40] <purezen> bekks: oh well.. I am fine with ppa s.. but what is the advantage with it..? And which package should I install from there..?
[14:41] <bekks> purezen: I dont know which packages are in there.
[14:42] <purezen> bekks: Ok.. and in case I want to shut down my nvidia discrete graphics card.. what shall I do..?
[14:43] <bekks> purezen: what do you mean by "shutting it down"?
[14:43] <purezen> bekks: I mean.. like switch off.. and save power..?
[14:44] <bekks> purezen: Never tried to do someething like that.
[14:44] <purezen> ok..
[14:44] <purezen> bekks: Thanks though.. :-)
[14:44] <anonymous_> anyone know how to install bluestacks in xubuntu?
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> !find bluestacks
[14:45] <anonymous_> i know i know im trying to install it through wine
[14:46] <auronandace> !appdb | anonymous_
[14:47] <pfifo> Hi everyone
[14:47] <purezen> Anyone here can tell me how to 'switch off' my Nvidia card.. GT 630M..?
[14:48] <pfifo> purezen, maybe just take it out of the computer
[14:49] <purezen> pfifo: Oh well..:D :D .. Looking for a saner way, though..
[14:49] <pfifo> purezen, is this an onboard card?
[14:49] <marz> I reinstalled ubuntu 12.04 (I had ubuntu 13.* before and windows 7 on different partitions) and now it seems my bootloader is messed up, it goes straight to grub 2 prompt saying file not found
[14:49] <purezen> pfifo: No.. discrete.. on a laptop..
[14:49] <marz> can anyone please help me out with this? thankz
[14:50] <pfifo> purezen, why do you want to turn it off anyway?
[14:50] <purezen> pfifo: Save power..!
[14:50] <purezen> Battery life.. ie..
[14:51] <pfifo> purezen, shouldn't use anything excessive unless your using the gfx acceleration
[14:51] <auronandace> purezen: can't you disable it in the bios?
[14:51] <minimec> purezen: Did you check your BIOS? There may be an option to disable the discrite card. That would be a nice way...
[14:51] <purezen> auronandace: Seems not..
[14:52] <pfifo> !ping
[14:52] <pfifo> !grub | marz
[14:53] <purezen> minimec: Will check for that again.. Still would like to know how to do it form Ubuntu..
[14:53] <minimec> purezen: You could black list the drivers, btu I don't know if this has a huge influence on power consumption. For ATI cards there's a tool called vgaswitcheroo, that does that. There might be a similar tool for nvidia.
[14:53] <theos> re:i cant use my usb mouse. i get the error: Cannot enable port 1.  Maybe the USB cable is bad? it used to work in 10.04. isnt working on 13.04. i need help!
[14:54] <purezen> minimec: Ok.. shall see for that..
[14:54] <marz> ubottu, I did not lost grub after installing windows, i lost it after installing ubuntu the second time
[14:54] <pfifo> purezen, you can try removing the kernel module, but it might not work as expected
[14:54] <minimec> purezen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[14:54] <marz> pfifo: can i fix it via the terminal og the live usb stick that I'm currently using?
[14:54] <pfifo> marz, sure can
[14:55] <marz> pfifo: I'm a total noob, can you walk me through it please
[14:55] <purezen> pfifo: Well.. shall look for that..
[14:55] <purezen> minimec: Thanks..:-)
[14:55] <pfifo> purezen, I bet a dollar it crashes the system when you try :(
[14:55] <purezen> Going through..
[14:55] <minimec> purezen: I read now that vgaswitcheroo will work for nvidia cards, if you use the opensource driver.
[14:55] <purezen> pfifo: Of course..:D
[14:56] <contrapunctus> Can someone please help me get my touchpad enable/disable key working? It worked on Mint 12, but isn't working on Xubuntu 12.04 :S
[14:56] <purezen> minimec: Hmm..
[14:56] <pfifo> marz, can you pastebin info in your current situation?
[14:57] <marz> pfifo: sorry, I don't follow
[14:58] <minimec> purezen: Put this line once in /etc/rc.local 'echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch' and reboot... If you are lucky, the card if 'off'... again, using the 'nouveau' driver.
[14:59] <minimec> purezen: OFF ... ;) I am stupid ;)
[14:59] <purezen> minimec: Well.. shall do that..:-)
[14:59] <marz> pfifo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5768100/
[14:59] <pfifo> marz, Ill need to see the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' you have to use a pastebin such as http://paste.ubuntu.com to pass the info, it might be hard for you todo that if you are stuck on the command line and even harder if theres no networking
[14:59] <purezen> minimec: Ah.. well.. that's fine..:D
[15:00] <ovrflw0x> does ubuntu work well with "envy 14 HP laptop 2010 model"?
[15:01] <auronandace> ovrflw0x: tell us the specs
[15:02] <marz> pfifo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5768108/
[15:03] <ovrflw0x> auronandace, http://www.pcworld.com/product/592841/envy-14-1110nr-notebook.html
[15:03] <pfifo> ovrflw0x, even if it dosent work well at first, ubuntu will continue updating until it does
[15:03] <ovrflw0x> pfifo, ?
[15:04] <ovrflw0x> what do you mean continue updating
[15:04] <pfifo> ovrflw0x, what didnt work yesterday may work tomorrow
[15:05] <ovrflw0x> pfifo, it is 2010 model we are in year mid 2013
[15:05] <auronandace> ovrflw0x: would be nice if it mentioned the graphics card, but yeah it should be just fine
[15:06] <ovrflw0x> auronandace, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Madison [Radeon HD 5000M Series]
[15:06] <ovrflw0x> auronandace, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[15:07] <ovrflw0x> i have hybrid graphics
[15:07] <auronandace> ovrflw0x: oh, have fun with that, i don't touch those
[15:07] <pfifo> marz, i need the output of 'mount' too
[15:07] <ovrflw0x> auronandace, what do you mean
[15:07] <engram> purezen, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[15:08] <marz> pfifo: can you tell me the command, I'm pretty new to Linuxl I'm sorry.
[15:08] <auronandace> ovrflw0x: i mean what i said, i don't use hybrid graphics
[15:08] <ovrflw0x> but will ubuntu work?
[15:08] <ovrflw0x> wit them
[15:08] <pfifo> marz, i did, i put commands in quotes for easy copy pasting... 'mount'
[15:09] <auronandace> ovrflw0x: yes but hybrid graphics might give you some headaches
[15:09] <ovrflw0x> everything else should work right?
[15:09] <pfifo> ovrflw0x, you should be ok, try a live cd to get a good feel for the system before commiting to anything
[15:09] <ovrflw0x> including multitouch touchpad
[15:09] <minimec> ovrflw0x: You might have to switch off the ATI GPU, to have a decent Linux experience. This is quiet easy, but you will not have the full GPU power provided by your machine.
[15:09] <auronandace> ovrflw0x: yes
[15:10] <marz> pfifo: you did not provide me with the link
[15:10] <ovrflw0x> minimec, what do you mean by full gpu power
[15:10] <ovrflw0x> used to do what'
[15:10] <marz> pfifo: oh i get it, sorry give me a sec
[15:10] <pfifo> marz, no you need to run 'mount' pastebin the output and then pass the link to me :)
[15:10] <ovrflw0x> should i got for ubuntu or kubuntu since i have a "Laptop"
[15:10] <ovrflw0x> go*
[15:11] <pfifo> ovrflw0x, lubuntu is very lightweight, good for older machines sometimes
[15:11] <marz> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5768131/
[15:11] <auronandace> ovrflw0x: both would work just fine, they have the same base
[15:11] <marz> pfifo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5768131/
[15:11] <ovrflw0x> pfifo, this is no old machine it is i5
[15:12] <minimec> ovrflw0x: Well you are 'only' running on the internal Intel GPU, which is fine for daily use. I have a dual screen desktop, running like that. But you will obviously not have the power of the ATI card.
[15:12] <ovrflw0x> auronandace, gnome or kde which one better supports latest hardware laptops
[15:13] <ovrflw0x> minimec, i usually use discrete card for external monior
[15:13] <ovrflw0x> t
[15:13] <auronandace> ovrflw0x: neither, they are desktop environments, the hardware makes no difference
[15:13] <pfifo> ovrflw0x, well technically you can have ubuntu and kubuntu at the same time, 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[15:13] <ovrflw0x> pfifo, but then there is mix up of similar gnome and kde softwares which is annoying
[15:14] <minimec> ovrflw0x: The internal Intel card can handle two screens (Ivy bridge even three).
[15:14] <rosco_y> Noobie here:  How do I use virtual desktops?
[15:14] <ovrflw0x> minimec, but display port is not connected to intel card
[15:14] <peeta> is there a way to automatically set a window's X property when a window is created, similar to how it is manually set using xprop -f?
[15:14] <pfifo> marz, why is all your drives mounted in /mnt
[15:15] <minimec> ovrflw0x: Well it is on my desktop motherboard...
[15:15] <ovrflw0x> bud we r talkin bout laptops
[15:16] <Guest77172> hello, is this where I can get help with my bodhi linux?
[15:16] <marz> pfifo: I don't know, I was following some step by step procedures off the Internet
[15:17] <marz> pfifo: let me restart my laptop to begin a new session
[15:17] <DJones> Guest77172: No, this channel only deals with the Official releases of Ubuntu
[15:17] <pfifo> marz, yes do that please... what livecd are you using?
[15:17] <aaron_> how can i disable the unity from ubuntu 12.04?
[15:17] <marz> live USB ubuntu 12.04
[15:17] <marz> pfifo: Live USB Ubuntu 12.04
[15:17] <DJones> !alis | Guest77172 This link should help you find the right channel though,
[15:19] <pfifo> marz, when your ready to continue, pastebin the output of this, 'sudo fdisk -l && mount && sudo os-prober'
[15:21] <contrapunctus> Can someone please help me get my touchpad enable/disable key working? =|
[15:23] <dave> Haii
[15:23] <contrapunctus> !hi
[15:23] <dave> whats up ?
[15:24] <contrapunctus> Can someone please help me get my touchpad enable/disable key working? It worked on Mint 12, but isn't working on Xubuntu 12.04 :S
[15:24] <Guest2430> are you german?
[15:24] <pfifo> Guest2430, ubuntu support :)
[15:24] <Ari-Yang> Guest2430, go to #ubuntu-offtopic for discussions
[15:24] <Guest2430> ist jemand deutscher=
[15:25] <Ari-Yang> !esp
[15:25] <pfifo> !de | Guest2430
[15:26] <marz> pfifo: I managed to fix it via the boot-repair program, however now both my Windows partitions are listed on the grub
[15:28] <pfifo> marz, well thats hardly a problem, you could get rid of it, but its not really supported here.
[15:29] <marz> pfifo: okay, another question, I went to System Settings > Details  and the Graphics says Unknown. Does that mean that my video card is not yet installed?
[15:30] <pfifo> marz, I dont know much about the GUI side of things, you should direct your question to the room
[15:31] <marz> pfifo: is there like a command to display all drivers installed on my computer? Much like the device manager of Windows?
[15:31] <zephyr28> Any hardware gurus here able to help me get my Power A Air Flo xbox 360 controller working in Ubuntu?
[15:32] <humbolt> I need some help with IEEE 802.3ad channel bonding. I have set up everything, but /proc/net/bonding/bond0 does not seem to say, that I actually have a bond0 consisting of two physical links. The aggregator does not have a MAC address and "Number of ports" is only "1". Can somebody have a look at this: http://pastebin.com/jhBXEG0Z
[15:33] <marz> Is there like a device manager in Ubuntu so I could install or verify that all my drivers are installed?
[15:33] <zephyr28> I have my 3rd-party Xbox controller plugged in and lsusb lists it (although not under a correct name).  Can't figure out how to configure linux to recognize it as a joystick... anyone?
[15:33] <pfifo> marz, you might find any of these useful... 'lsmod' for running drivers, 'lspci' and 'lshw' for a list of hardware and 'dpkg -l' for a list of linstalled packages (thats a mile long)
[15:34] <marz> pfifo: thanks
[15:34] <ThothCastel> why is my caching nameserver not working ? https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/dns-configuration.html
[15:34] <hanner> hi
[15:35] <pfifo> hi hanner
[15:35] <hanner> what is the corresponding xorg conf in ubuntu 13.04 to adjust the mouse sensitivity?
[15:35] <ThothCastel> I am using the google puglic dns inside the forwarders clause
[15:36] <hanner> anyone? :(
[15:36] <auronandace> hanner: there are mouse and touchpad settings in system settings
[15:36] <hanner> these are bugged, i am already at MAX, and it is still to slow
[15:36] <hanner> and the UI just allows altering acceleration and threshhold
[15:36] <hanner> i want the linear sensitivity
[15:36] <rosco_y> I just upgraded to 13.04;  One of my displays doesn't use all of the width of the panel, can I fix this?
[15:42] <pfifo> hanner, I want to say /usr/lib/X11/xorg.conf.d/ but im not sure with 13.04 and Im not sure if the directory even exists by default
[15:42] <hanner> yup, there are several .confs inside that dir
[15:42] <hanner> which one is for mouse settings?
[15:43] <pfifo> hanner, just create a new file with your preferred settings
[15:43] <hanner> hm
[15:44] <pfifo> hanner, like 99-custom.conf
[15:44] <marz> Does Ubuntu have a device manager like Windows?
[15:44] <pfifo> hanner, then youll need a input section for the mouse
[15:45] <Yamakasi> someone using netapps here ?
[15:46] <irgendwer4711>  hi, which group has a user belong to, to join a wlan?
[15:46] <hanner> thanks pfifo :)
[15:47] <pfifo> irgendwer4711, you shouldn't need any
[15:48] <irgendwer4711> it asked for the pass of the user, which installed it
[15:48] <irgendwer4711> *who
[15:49] <pfifo> irgendwer4711, then perhaps you need to be in the 'sudo' 'admin' or 'wheel' group(s)
[15:49] <irgendwer4711> thats for bash...
[15:50] <pfifo> irgendwer4711, it applies to 'gksudo' program too
[15:50] <irgendwer4711> the network manager asks for more rights
[15:50] <irgendwer4711> but not for root.
[15:51] <pfifo> irgendwer4711, there is only root and not-root in linux
[15:51] <irgendwer4711> maybe group plugdev?
[15:52] <pfifo> irgendwer4711, That doesnt seem right, but it wont hurt to try.
[15:52] <irgendwer4711> which group is right?
[15:53] <pfifo> irgendwer4711, on my computer its 'sudo'
[15:53] <pfifo> ... yo use the unlock button
[15:53] <irgendwer4711> this group is empty here
[15:54] <irgendwer4711> the unlock asked for the wrong user
[15:54] <pfifo> irgendwer4711, I may have customized my sudoers file, so 'wheel
[15:54] <pfifo> irgendwer4711, I may have customized my sudoers file, so 'wheel' and 'admin' come to mind
[15:54] <irgendwer4711> in which group a user have to belong to, to use unlock?
[15:55] <shadej> when i enable ssl mod httpd is stoping
[15:55] <shadej> any help
[15:55] <shadej> ?
[15:55] <SP33D> shadej: simply look into the error.log
[15:55] <SP33D> it will tell you why it is stopping
[15:56] <SP33D> littel other question from me: any one knows how it would work to setup a dns server for all my Virtual Servers? on the host system?
[15:56] <pfifo> irgendwer4711, are you trying to avoid letting this uswer have sudo access?
[15:56] <SP33D> ah solved my question self simply using bind and enter it an all virtual machines as dns server sure sorry
[15:56] <raven_> thunderbird: how to export to eml with custom filenames?
[15:57] <irgendwer4711> pfifo: the user should be able to join a wlan net
[15:58] <SuperLag> If your laptop has a camera, are there packages/apps that you can take a picture with?
[15:58] <SP33D> ya there are
[15:59] <SP33D> guvcview
[15:59] <SP33D> guvcview can take cam pictures
[15:59] <pfifo> irgendwer4711, yes, but the user needs to be able to configure the network before hand
[16:00] <irgendwer4711> does by networking-manager
[16:00] <pfifo> SuperLag, I love 'cheese'
[16:01] <irgendwer4711> nevermind, bye
[16:01] <raven_> thunderbird: how to export to eml with custom filenames?
[16:03] <shadej> SP33D: `does erasing the log hurt
[16:03] <SP33D> ya it hurts
[16:03] <SP33D> you then need to restart apache
[16:03] <SP33D> coz if you del log if it running
[16:03] <SP33D> it will simply log nothing so del it and start it then again
[16:03] <pfifo> NO
[16:04] <shadej> SP33D: i am doing that but it is saying unable to open log file
[16:04] <pfifo> shadej, SP33D, if the log file doesnt exist, that turns off logging, make it a blank file
[16:05] <SP33D> pfifo: the main problem is i don't know all about his system :D
[16:05] <SP33D> its sometimes a bit wirred
[16:05] <snkcld> i am not seeing the memtest option in my grub menu... i have ubuntu 13.04. is memtest something i need to install, which isnt installed by default?
[16:05] <shadej> pfifo:  i deleted the whole content
[16:05] <shadej> i mean the file error.log is now empty
[16:06] <Guest50775> is there a away to check statust of a file transfer from ubuntu
[16:06] <pfifo> and its modssl ontop of it, modssl is particularly weird
[16:06] <[diablo]> Good afternoon #ubuntu … Everytime I install Ubuntu (even with only one HD in) upon boot I get 'Loading Operating System' and below 'Read Error'
[16:06] <[diablo]> AHCI is on
[16:06] <Guest50775> for example user abc is connected via filezilla and i want to see what they are transfering
[16:07] <[diablo]> no EFI
[16:07] <[diablo]> totally lost as to what BIOS setting is causing this :-/
[16:07] <[diablo]> it refuses to boot GRUB2
[16:07] <pfifo> shadej, good, check file ownership too, might need to 'chown www-data:www-data error.log'
[16:07] <[diablo]> I've done a grub-install via live cd also, still no joy
[16:08] <shadej> pfifo: yeah
[16:08] <shadej> sorry
[16:08] <pfifo> Guest50775, fuser
[16:08] <Trieste> Hi, is there somewhere a compiled ffmpeg with mp3 encoding enabled?
[16:09] <pfifo> Trieste, sure is, like 20 different ffmpegs exist in PPAs
[16:10] <OerHeks> For mp3 encoding you need the lame codec package, AFAIK
[16:12] <Guest50775> pfifo: thx, i don't see a relevent switch
[16:12] <pfifo> OerHeks, you still need './configure --with-lame' during the build
[16:14] <Trieste> pfifo: right, the ppas, I completely forgot about them
[16:14] <pfifo> Guest50775, fuser is hard, so is 'lsof' but might help too... Let me check the manual real quick I might remember how todo this.
[16:17] <pfifo> Guest50775, try 'lsof | grep <PID of filezilla>'
[16:18] <shadej> pfifo: SP33D http://pastebin.com/K3UjcuPq
[16:18] <shadej> the error log
[16:18] <pfifo> Guest50775, if your tyring to snoop on them you can use 'tcpdump' or wireshark
[16:19] <contrapunctus> Can someone please help me enable my trackpad under ubuntu 12.04, and also make the key that enables/disables it work? None of the wiki and forum solutions seem to work :(
[16:20] <Guest50775> pfifo: would i grep the file name with tcpdump or would there be somthing better to grep
[16:20] <pfifo> shadej, shutdown apache and wait a few minutes for the socket to become available, port 80 is in use according to this log
[16:21] <shadej> pfifo: yeah  at first i thought waiting for few minutes will make the socket available
[16:21] <pfifo> Guest50775, its been a long time since I used tcpdump, if you have gui, go with wireshark
[16:21] <shadej> but it is not working
[16:21] <samsamsam> I installed netbeans by downloading its file and its not listed in software centre . how do i uninstall it?
[16:22] <pfifo> shadej, something else might be using port 80 then, maybe another instance of apache or even a different httpd
[16:22] <shadej> pfifo:  i checked that the whole day
[16:22] <shadej> it is free
[16:22] <shadej> may be my doubt is with the ssl configuration
[16:24] <pfifo> shadej, ohh i just noticed it did a graceful restart and it didnt wait long enough. So yeah its modssl causing then segfaults.
[16:24] <shadej> yeah
[16:24] <shadej> pfifo: it is saying port is in use twice
[16:25] <shadej> look at the second one
[16:25] <shadej> unable to bind to 0.0.0.0:80
[16:25] <shadej> where can i find that
[16:25] <pfifo> one for 0.0.0.0:80 on IPv4 and one on ::80 IPv6
[16:25] <Guest50775> pfifo: got it just listen to port as sudo
[16:25] <Guest50775> thx
[16:25] <contrapunctus> Can someone please help me enable my touchpad under ubuntu 12.04, and also make the key that enables/disables it work? None of the wiki and forum solutions seem to work :(
[16:27] <shadej> pfifo: where can i get that
[16:27] <pfifo> shadej, 0.0.0.0 is an address that means all adderess available on your machine. changing to an actual address might help with the troubleshooting effort
[16:27] <pfifo> and disable IPv6
[16:27] <shadej> pfifo: on which config file can i get it?
[16:28] <pfifo> shadej, should be in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[16:29] <shadej> pfifo: i can not locate it there
[16:30] <raven_> thunderbird: how to export to eml with custom filenames?
[16:31] <Ruk> Hi
[16:31] <Ruk> any1 here ?
[16:31] <pfifo> shadej, the file or the directive in the file todo the binding?
[16:31] <shadej> Ruk: just ask your question
[16:31] <bazhang> !ask | Ruk
[16:31] <contrapunctus> Ruk - 1600 people, ll
[16:31] <contrapunctus> *lol
[16:31] <shadej> pfifo: not clear
[16:32] <pfifo> shadej, are you saying /etc/apache2/apache2.conf doesnt exist?
[16:32] <shadej> pfifo: i search for 0.0.0.0 and i can not find it?
[16:32] <Ruk> thanks, .... Can I play Diable3 on ubuntu ?
[16:32] <Ruk> *Diablo
[16:32] <bazhang> !appd | Ruk
[16:33] <pfifo> shadej, yeah, you need to add it yourself, heres the relevant manual page http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/bind.html
[16:33] <bazhang> check out the appdb ruk
[16:33] <bazhang> !appdb
[16:33] <bazhang> Ruk, ^
[16:33] <pfifo> shadej, ill be right back
[16:33] <Ruk> ok thanks, I'll check it later
[16:33] <raven_> thunderbird: how to export to eml with custom filenames?
[16:34] <gustav___> Hey, did you know ncal -w doesn't show the right week?
[16:35] <bazhang> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/importexporttools/   raven_
[16:39] <pfifo> shadej, keep in mind at some point here we need to listen on port 443 as well
[16:42] <ltxda> hi all.  have a partition problem.  Hope someone's been through this and can help.  I cloned a server with Clonezilla.  Then restored it to a virtual machine with a larger HD.  The original was approx 200GB.  The new virtual disk is 1TB.  Everything went well and the server boots but for some reason it's only recognizing the original hard disk size.  Any way to have it extend to the rest of
[16:42] <ltxda> the free space?  I used GParted  but can't figure out how to get it to do that.
[16:44] <pfifo> gustav___, it seems the year started with week 53, cal -wy
[16:46] <WILLdude> Hi. I have a DVB-T usb stick plugged in but no /dev/dvb has been created.
[16:46] <WILLdude> Why?
[16:46] <redpill> System program problem detected
[16:46] <redpill> Yes hi I was just wondering what the utility is in haveing ubuntu tell me 7 times that it is messed up on boot. Is this to make me wish I havd arch installed on this comuter as well?
[16:46] <Guest50775> is there a good s script in anyone's opinion that will color code or color th output
[16:47] <IdleOne> WILLdude: should be in /media/
[16:47] <MonkeyDust> Guest50775  you mean a bash script? if yes: ask in #bash
[16:48] <Guest50775> MonkeyDust: yes, thank you
[16:48] <WILLdude> BJfreeman: Do I know you from somewhere? Are you a wikipedian?
[16:48] <pfifo> ltxda, resize2fs might help
[16:48] <ltxda> ok let me give that a go...thnx pfifo
[16:48] <WILLdude> Maybe I'm thinking of someone else.
[16:50] <WILLdude> IdleOne: Nothing in there either.
[16:50] <WILLdude> AFAIK, it should be in /dev/dvb
[16:50] <ltxda> pfifo, i think it's sized up properly but just not being recognized by Ubuntu.  I say this because when I boot to GParted i can't resize and it shows up as one drive.
[16:52] <raven_> bazhang, importexporttools does not export more than 14 files in my case - several times
[16:53] <gustav___> pfifo: Doesn't work. First week is still 53.
[16:55] <pfifo> gustav___, my command just showed the whole year... it IS week 23
[16:55] <pfifo> not 24
[16:56] <pfifo> ltxda, sounds like its the partition table then, not just the filesystem, I think fdisk or parted can repair it
[16:57] <ltxda> pfifo, ah ok.  I see what you mean.  I'll give that a try.  Thank you again.
[16:57] <ltxda> pfifo, when you say parted you mean gparted or is that another tool?
[16:58] <pfifo> ltxda, parted the cli version of gparted
[16:59] <ltxda> ok
[16:59] <ltxda> thnx again
[16:59] <mbnoimi> How can I add an application so system path? I tried to modify "ld.so.conf" but it seems work for .so files only, is it?
[17:00] <pvl1> hey there i got an ubuntu server box, and grub doesnt seem to be loading the cfg, bc i can manually boot
[17:01] <pfifo> mbnoimi, thaats not what ld.so.conf is for, you can either put your program in /usr/bin or modify your $PATH to include something like /home/user/bin
[17:01] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know winconn? Is it the ultimate solution? or is there any better equivalent?
[17:01] <zykotick9> pfifo: actually ~/bin is in PATH by default (but you need to log out/back in after creating the directory).  mbnoimi
[17:01] <bazhang> what is winconn mojtaba
[17:02] <mojtaba> bazhang: Take a look at its website
[17:02] <mojtaba> :)
[17:02] <mbnoimi> pfifo: OK, how can I modify $PATH ?
[17:02] <bazhang> mojtaba, just tell us here
[17:02] <samsamsam> join #dota2
[17:03] <danielrm26> Hey guys.
[17:03] <mojtaba> bazhang: http://stanev.org/winconn/
[17:03] <pfifo> mbnoimi, edit your ~/.bashrc, I think there is already an entry for it at the bottom, but see what zykotick9 said above, seems ~/bin is already there
[17:04] <mojtaba> Hi, Does anybody know winconn? Is it the ultimate solution? or is there any better equivalent?
[17:05] <mbnoimi> pfifo: I don't want to change system path for the current user only, I want to the whole system
[17:05] <pvl1> mojtaba, not using windows. maybe wine
[17:05] <IdleOne> mojtaba: try it and decide for yourself
[17:05] <mbnoimi> pfifo: I want to add a new path to $PATH
[17:05] <mojtaba> any idea better that IdleOne?
[17:06] <pfifo> mbnoimi, system wide bashrc is /etc/bash.bashrc
[17:06] <IdleOne> mojtaba: technically it is not supported in this channel.
[17:06] <antoine__> french ?
[17:06] <IdleOne> !fr
[17:06] <pfifo> mbnoimi, but if your aiming for system wide, then just put your program in /usr/bin
[17:07] <lshkn> hi all
[17:08] <mbnoimi> pfifo: in case I added ln to folder into /usr/bin... can I call the applications in that folder?
[17:08] <pfifo> mbnoimi, you need to link the program itself, not the directory
[17:09] <pfifo> but a link will work just fine
[17:09] <mbnoimi> pfifo: thanks it works:)
[17:13] <clem_> hi
[17:13] <pvl1> i cant seem to get grub to boot ubuntu
[17:14] <rlntel> hellohello
[17:14] <clem_> guys i am trying to do LinuxFromScratch
[17:14] <clem_> please help me
[17:14] <bazhang> !ot | clem_
[17:14] <rlntel> has anyon had the problem where they tried to reset their pw...received on in email...entered it and the correct uname and ubuntu tells you the pw is wrong?
[17:15] <clem_> ok thanks
[17:15] <contrapunctus> clem_ - Try ##linux. You'll need to register your nick, though
[17:15] <clem_> ok
[17:15] <rlntel> ??
[17:16] <rlntel> ??
[17:16] <bazhang> !patience | ring0
[17:16] <bazhang> sorry ring0
[17:16] <OerHeks> rlntel, reset ubuntu password by email? you probably mean ubuntu-forum?
[17:16] <rlntel> right
[17:16] <bazhang> rlntel, see above
[17:18] <shadej> pfifo: ok i was away
[17:18] <shadej> pfifo: the ports.conf file is imported in the httpd.conf
[17:19] <MariachiAC> ooops sorry accidently closed the channel.
[17:19] <MariachiAC> HERe was the question. Hello I'm going to be installing ubuntu on my mac. If I delete OSX and install ubuntu on its own do I need to install refit before I do anything?
[17:20] <pfifo> shadej, yes seems ports.conf is where to edit
[17:21] <shadej> pfifo: yeah on ports.conf the content i suspect for error is
[17:21] <shadej> NameVirtualHost *:80
[17:21] <shadej> Listen 80
[17:22] <Greygan> MariachiAC: If you are dumping OSX and running Ubuntu as a stand alone OS there is no need for Refit.
[17:23] <MariachiAC> Greygan: thank you
[17:23] <MariachiAC> Greygan: Do I need to format the disk for efi support or will it boot via grub automatically
[17:23] <pfifo> shadej, you can do 'Listen w.x.y.z:80' to get it to bind to just a single addy, the NameVirtualHost is something different and should be left alone
[17:24] <shadej> pfifo: yeah i did , i made it to be 10.0.0.13:80
[17:24] <Greygan> MariachiAC: I would suggest a reformat anyway... but grub should take over either way
[17:24] <shadej> which my addres
[17:24] <pfifo> shadej, now just need to figure out the original problem
[17:25] <shadej> yeah
[17:25] <MariachiAC> Greygan: ok thanks. I'll go do the instalaltion.
[17:26] <pfifo> shadej, Look over the config for modssl, Id ask you to pastebin it but it might contain sensitive info
[17:27] <shadej> pfifo: no it is not sensitive
[17:27] <shadej> am working on a local server
[17:27] <pfifo> shadej, then lets take a look
[17:30] <shadej> pfifo: i lost the path
[17:30] <shadej> tell me please
[17:30] <shadej> i got it
[17:30] <pfifo> shadej, /etc/apache2/mods-enabled
[17:34] <pvl1> ubuntu installed but it wont boot the cfg, i have to manually boot ubuntu. and this is a server box, so its a bit of a hassle
[17:35] <mbnoimi> how can I run .sh file GUI without need to run it from the terminal (double click on it to see the terminal output)?
[17:36] <pfifo> mbeierl, run a terminal emulator with the script as its command.
[17:36] <pvl1> mbnoimi, right click on it and make it executable, then u can double click it
[17:37] <pvl1> in properties
[17:37] <mbnoimi> pvl1: I already did that but I can't see the output unless I manually opened the terminal
[17:38] <gustav___> pfifo: No. Check out http://www.vecka.nu/ vecka means week in Swedish. Also http://www.kalender.se/2013/Juni
[17:38] <pfifo> pvl1, sounds like you need to run 'update-grub'
[17:38] <pvl1> mbnoimi, do what pfifo said
[17:39] <Esokrates> hi, my proprietary nvidia driver has an issue (the brightness flickers randomly (only on flicker every few minutes/hours) ) This does not happen with opensource driver. What sould I do?
[17:39] <pvl1> pfifo, did that twice
[17:39] <Esokrates> hi, my proprietary nvidia driver has an issue (the brightness flickers randomly (only on flicker every few minutes/hours) ) This does not happen with opensource driver. What sould I do?
[17:39] <mbnoimi> pvl1: didn’t work!
[17:40] <mbnoimi> pvl1: Do I've to add some line into .sh file?
[17:40] <pvl1> mbnoimi, no, uh add an app to the bar up top
[17:40] <pvl1> or
[17:41] <pvl1> do u want it on ur deskstop
[17:41] <pfifo> pvl1, is the resulting grub.cfg setup as expected?
[17:41] <pfifo> mbnoimi, you can add a shebang, but shouldnt make a difference, the code is "#!/bin/sh"
[17:41] <marcio> hi all! anybody with Radeon HD 6600M working in 13.04?
[17:42] <pvl1> pfifo, quit so. ironically if i do install-grub it works
[17:42] <pvl1> its confusing
[17:42] <mbnoimi> pvl1: I just add this line into my .sh "ldd myapplication"
[17:43] <pfifo> mbnoimi, that doesnt make any sense, ldd list the libraries a program uses
[17:43] <pvl1> mbnoimi, i agree with pfifo
[17:44] <mbnoimi> pvl1: I know... I just want to double click on that .sh file for seeing the output of ldd instead of opening the terminal manually
[17:45] <pfifo> gustav___, you should notify the administrators of those sites that there code has bugs, its week 23
[17:45] <mbnoimi> pfifo: I know... I just want to double click on that .sh file for seeing the output of ldd instead of opening the terminal manually
[17:45] <pvl1> double click from where
[17:45] <pvl1> desktop
[17:45] <pvl1> ?
[17:46] <pfifo> mbnoimi, then create a shortcut to rxvt or any terminal emulator of your choice that allows you to supply a command or script to run
[17:46] <pfifo> pvl1, are you using EFI
[17:46] <korisnickoime> i have ati 4650 and when i install fglrx drivvers what i need for 1 game to work my other game slows down from and lags
[17:47] <korisnickoime> i have ati 4650 and when i install fglrx drivvers what i need for 1 game to work my other game slows down from and lags, are ati still shit shoud i buy  f nvidia?
[17:47] <pvl1> pfifo, lol no, this is a p3
[17:48] <mbnoimi> pfifo: I know that I can fix it by a desktop shortcut... I need a solution without shortcut (I believe I've to add some line into .sh file)
[17:48] <pfifo> pvl1, are you using a seperate partition for /boot
[17:48] <pvl1> pfifo, nope. im also confused about, grub says 1.99, is that grub 2?
[17:48] <pfifo> mbnoimi, you could try a shebang like so '#!/usr/bin/rxvt'
[17:49] <auronandace> pvl1: yes, that is grub2
[17:49] <pfifo> pvl1, yes, 1.99 is 2 somehow
[17:49] <korisnickoime> i have ati 4650 and when i install fglrx drivvers what i need for 1 game to work my other game slows down from and lags, are ati still shit shoud i buy  f nvidia???
[17:49] <IdleOne> !language | korisnickoime
[17:50] <pvl1> hm maybe im following grub1 directions
[17:50] <pfifo> pvl1, did you make your own grub.cfg
[17:50] <korisnickoime> i have ati 4650 and when i install fglrx drivvers what i need for 1 game to work my other game slows down and lags, are ATI cards  still bad shoud i buy   nvidia???
[17:51] <pvl1> pfifo, no sir. i will try update grub again just to see what happens
[17:51] <mbnoimi> pfifo: I added "#!/usr/bin/rxvt" to the top my .sh file but it didn't change anything!!!
[17:51] <bazhang> !repeat | korisnickoime
[17:51] <pvl1> pfifo, should i use update-grub or update-grub2
[17:51] <pfifo> pvl1, same file
[17:52] <pfifo> pvl1, did you edit any of the files in /etc/grub.d
[17:53] <korisnickoime> are ATI card still bad drivers for linux?
[17:53] <pvl1> pfifo, nope. i uninstLLED A buncha stuff, then did a dist upgrade
[17:53] <pfifo> korisnickoime, im under the impression that nvidia is crap and ati is cool
[17:53] <pvl1> pfifo, still goes to a grub terminal
[17:54] <switching> just got a new system76 lemur ultra!! it is fantastic
[17:54]  * pfifo is jealous
[17:54] <korisnickoime> i dont want to istall windows
[17:54] <switching> haha pfifo
[17:54] <switching> korisnickoime why do you need to?
[17:54] <pfifo> put unix on it please
[17:55] <switching> pfifo on my system76? why lol
[17:55] <pfifo> because you can
[17:55] <BluesKaj> korisnickoime, depends on the card , some run fine some don't
[17:55] <korisnickoime> bad gaming on ubuntu  i think it hes to do whit driwers
[17:55] <korisnickoime> so what card runs fine
[17:55] <switching> pfifo good enough for me
[17:55] <sam113101> why does my window manager keep crashing
[17:55] <korisnickoime> i have 4650 and it sux expecial for gaming
[17:55] <switching> korisnickoime you can get steam and minecraft has excellent support :D
[17:56] <switching> oh you're talking about cards
[17:56] <switching> whoops
[17:56] <korisnickoime> i dont play thet game i play Heroes of Newart and Path of Exile
[17:56] <clem_> hi guys, i am pushed back to this channel from #lfs-support , now plz if there are any developers plz help me
[17:56] <korisnickoime> so what card is good tested for games
[17:56] <switching> wine?  lol probably too unstable
[17:56] <pfifo> pvl1, It seems you know how to get grub working without ubuntu's help, maybe you should just install manually instead of the automated way
[17:56] <bazhang> clem_, lfs is NOT supported here
[17:57] <sam113101> why does my window manager keep crashing
[17:57] <pfifo> clem_, LFS has their own irc network, hop onto irc.linuxfromscratch.org port 6667
[17:57] <clem_> don't u support ubuntu buider??
[17:57] <clem_> don't u support ubuntu builder??
[17:58] <bazhang> clem_, that has zero to do with LFS
[17:58] <clem_> what is the difference??
[17:58] <switching> this laptop is completely silent for basic tasks, but i fired up openshot and started rendering a 3d title with blender and now it's noisy :P
[17:58] <bazhang> !details | sam113101
[17:58] <switching> but whaddaya expect, right?
[17:59] <sere> switching: how does that run? is the intel card anygood? I like the little ubuntu keyboard button :o
[17:59] <sam113101> WELL, I get no border around windows
[17:59] <pfifo> clem_, why dont you ask your question and if we need to send you to another channel then so be it.
[17:59] <sam113101> I can't open the dash, the unity bar sin't there
[18:00] <clem_> pfifo: how to install a icon theme??
[18:00] <switching> sere it's going well, about 1 frame rendered every 12 seconds, but i'm doing other stuff like x-chat at the same time
[18:00] <switching> and firefox is open
[18:00] <switching> probably should close that
[18:01] <pfifo> clem_, under ubuntu?
[18:01] <clem_> pfifo: yuo
[18:01] <clem_> pfifo: yup
[18:01] <bazhang> !themes | clem_
[18:01] <pfifo> !theme | clem_
[18:02] <clem_> and then??
[18:02] <bazhang> !changethemes > clem_
[18:02] <bazhang> clem_, and then, read the links
[18:03] <HelloWorld321> I've just installed a fresh ubuntu (12.10) on a fresh virtual box; installed guest additions.  unity_support_test -p says that "GLX is not available on the system".  Should I worry about that?  How can I make GLX available?
[18:03] <clem_> sorry but i am gonna  build gnome version
[18:03] <nightfly> How can I cause /usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo (or one of it's varients) to be generated/installed?
[18:03] <bazhang> HelloWorld321, does vbox support 3D?
[18:03] <switching> sere does that sound fast? i can only judge against my old computer which froze when i tried to render a 3d title in openshot :P
[18:04] <HelloWorld321> bazhang: Yes, I believe so.  I've checked the "Enable 3D Acceleration" in the display configuration.
[18:04] <bazhang> clem_, why would you compile the gnome version for ubuntu; is this really about LFS?
[18:05] <clem_> i am wanting to install the icon-theme in a ubuntu builder
[18:05] <clem_> bazhang: i am wanting to install the icon-theme in a ubuntu builder
[18:05] <bazhang> HelloWorld321, if you dont get a satisfactory answer here, there is also #vbox
[18:06] <bazhang> !remaster | clem_
[18:06] <korisnickoime> so what card is good tested for games?
[18:07] <clem_> i have already read that all, no answer for icon-theme
[18:08] <pfifo> korisnickoime, to be honest, linux isnt a good gaming platform. I highly recommend windows for any serious gaming.
[18:08] <pvl1> pfifo, i think i will try that
[18:09] <switching> pfifo unless, of course all the games you want to play are on steam or linux-native
[18:09] <switching> of course, *
[18:09] <zykotick9> pfifo: 'if windows is your answer, you're asking the wrong question' ;)
[18:09] <pfifo> lol
[18:09] <switching> hahaha
[18:09] <clem_> bazhang:  i have already read that all, no answer for icon-theme
[18:10] <bazhang> clem_, what exactly is "ubuntu builder"
[18:10] <clem_> its a uck type for remastering
[18:10] <clem_> i am wanting to remaster, yes\
[18:10] <iderik> Not sure why my irssi closed, is there anyway to see what caused it? it doesnt have to be a crash, maybe i did it myself but not noticing it.
[18:11] <bazhang> clem_, whats the package name please
[18:11] <pfifo> iderik, after the fact you can atleast get an exit code 'echo $?'
[18:11] <clem_> bazhang: uck
[18:12] <clem_> bazhang: i am wanting to install a icon-theme i created to my distro..
[18:12] <Asad2005> The default fonts seems ugly in my system, what am i doing wrong just installed 13.04
[18:12] <iderik> pfifo: ah, nice! that might work, but i cant try that now since i closed the shell after, on purpose this time
[18:12] <pfifo> Asad2005, is you resolution set correctly, you could be seeing artifacts from scaling
[18:13] <stratfordv> I have tried 4 different linux versions but decided on ubuntu 12.04.  I have a laptop with a CD/DVD burner.  In Windows it writes all formats of cd and DVD however in linux it doesn't think it's a burner. When i type cd-drive it says it doesn't write anything.  Is there anything I can do?
[18:13] <Asad2005> pfifo: How do i check that ? but in terminal fonts are good
[18:13] <HelloWorld321> tx bazhang
[18:14] <pfifo> Asad2005, i dont know that part, just the symptom
[18:14] <shadej> pfifo: http://pastebin.com/HWa4pz3Q
[18:14] <pfifo> stratfordv, can you pastebin the output of 'lspci && lshw'
[18:15] <stratfordv> sure standby
[18:15] <clem_> bazhang: are u there to help me plz??
[18:15] <shadej> pfifo: am sorry being late
[18:15] <bazhang> http://code.google.com/p/ubuntu-builder/   <---- from this?
[18:16] <pfifo> shadej, you havent modified this file have you?
[18:16] <bazhang> there's a button called "install deb" on that menu   <---- clem_
[18:16] <ls32> How can remove write protection from pen drive in debian?
[18:17] <ls32> How can I remove write protection from pen drive in debian?
[18:17] <bazhang> ls32, #debian
[18:17] <DJones> ls32: You'll probably need to ask that in #debian
[18:17] <shadej> pfifo: nope
[18:17] <pfifo> ls32, are you sure its write protected? Perhaps only root is allowed to modify stuff
[18:18] <ls32> yes its write protected
[18:18] <TheLordOfTime> how do i manually mount an NTFS usb drive as readwrite?
[18:18] <TheLordOfTime> (GUI automount ended up auto-read-onlying it later)
[18:18] <pfifo> shadej, is your certificate installed correctly?
[18:19] <shadej> pfifo: i dont know
[18:19] <pfifo> shadej, did you install a certificate?
[18:19] <stratfordv> pfifo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5768639/
[18:20] <shadej> pfifo: yeah
[18:20] <Clarkcj> I have a question I am trying to install Ubuntu on my laptop using the mini.iso and I am following the instructions for the Netinstall but it doesn't seem to work.
[18:21] <Clarkcj> As I fill out the questions as directed, and it comes up with a like a text box on a blank screen to type things in.
[18:21] <Clarkcj> Can someone help me with my problem?
[18:21] <pfifo> stratfordv, do you have both a dvd reader and a dvd writer?
[18:22] <pfifo> shadej, was apache working before you started fussing with modssl?
[18:22] <stratfordv> yes it's a very good burner.  It does everything.  I ordered it with the laptop from Dell
[18:22] <shadej> pfifo: sure
[18:22] <shadej> it is working even now when i disable the ssl mod
[18:22] <pfifo> stratfordv, yes you do have 2 different drives?
[18:22] <DiamondBoy1979> Hello
[18:22] <stratfordv> Oh no sorry, all 1 drive
[18:23] <stratfordv> my bad
[18:23] <ls32> my USB Flash drive has been auto mounting as read only but my account and all permissions are set as root...I am unable to make any changes...please help
[18:23] <IveBeenBit> I'm running Linux Mint 12 LXDE and trying to install Zbar with "pip install zbar". The computer writes some stuff, then "fatal error: Python.h: no such file or directory. Compilation terminated" How can I get Zbar to install?
[18:23] <DJones> !mint | IveBeenBit
[18:24] <bazhang> ls32, on debian?
[18:24] <pfifo> stratfordv, according to this pastebin, its showing up as a reader only. Is this an external drive?
[18:25] <ls32> yes
[18:25] <stratfordv> pfifo, no its an internal drive
[18:26] <shadej> pfifo: i installed the certificates but am not using them
[18:26] <shadej> why should this matter?
[18:26] <stratfordv> That's my issue, If I run cd-drive, it shows all the data about the drive for for writing, everything shows no
[18:27] <stratfordv> I don't understand
[18:28] <bittyx-desktop> hi all! i'm having trouble installing/running ubuntu. i've downloaded 13.04 (desktop amd64 version). when i try booting the system (before installation), either from a flash drive, or my dvd reader, i get the same error: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9evADzc2Oweb3psd0M5dkVpczg/edit?usp=sharing - i've figured out that ata8 *is* my dvd reader, so i've tried unplugging it, and successfully install
[18:28] <bittyx-desktop> ed 13.04, so that was indeed the problem! however, when i plug it back in, ubuntu won't even start - it hangs on a black screen while booting. i've since tried installing 12.04 (also desktop amd64), and i have the exact same problem. anyone knows what's going on?
[18:28] <Asad2005> someone please suggest a good theme or fonts for ubuntu 13.04, default dont seem to look good or maybe rendering proplem
[18:28] <zeheex_in_c> >>gcc -o myfile myfile.c   (its success), but why if >> gcc -o myfile myfile.cpp  (it is not success?)
[18:29] <clem_> bazhang: sorry, but i need to configure from chroot
[18:30] <pfifo> stratfordv, it seems the burner part requires some special drivers to work properly, what is the make and model of the drive
[18:31] <bittyx-desktop> i've bought a new computer a week ago, and everything in it is brand new, including the dvd drive. the dvd drive is this one: https://www.avadirect.com/product_details_parts.asp?PRID=25670
[18:31] <stratfordv> pfifo afraid you were going to ask that.  may take me a min or 2
[18:31] <pfifo> shadej, im not sure where this is crashing, i would like to run apache in debug mode but google isnt giving me any info on how
[18:32] <jtwalters> if i suspect my ubuntu's apache 2.2.22 has been repeatedly exploited, how should i update it to a more recent version than what ubuntu offers?
[18:32] <jrib> jtwalters: what would that do?
[18:33] <zeheex_in_c> why  >> gcc -o myfile myfile.cpp  not success in compile?
[18:33] <jrib> zeheex_in_c: try g++
[18:33] <jtwalters> jrib: updating to the latest 2.2.x of apache2 might fix this vulnerability i've been experiencing
[18:33] <jrib> jtwalters: ubuntu includes security patches in its updates.  Is there a specific security patch you believe ubuntu hasn't included?
[18:34] <zeheex_in_c> jrib thx. so gcc just for c file?
[18:34] <jrib> zeheex_in_c: sure
[18:35] <zeheex_in_c> jrib thank you
[18:35] <jtwalters> jrib: i believe it's this one: http://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2013-1862/
[18:36] <stratfordv> pfifo. Vendor                      : PLDS
[18:36] <stratfordv> Model                       : DVD-ROM DS-8D3SH
[18:36] <stratfordv> Revision                    : HD15
[18:37] <clem_> bazhang: man, i need the codes to apply the icon-theme folder
[18:38] <pfifo> stratfordv, your not the only one... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1916289.html
[18:38] <clem_> bazhang: currently the default is gnome
[18:38] <jrib> jtwalters: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/1188069 you can see comments here.  You can either use the workaround suggested or compile your own apache as you wanted (and then you must always keep on top of security updates yourself)
[18:38] <bazhang> clem_, no idea about that
[18:38] <jtwalters> jrib: thank you
[18:39] <clem_> bazhang: ok thanks very much
[18:39] <RickZilla> Is this channel for dev support or user support?
[18:39] <pfifo> shadej, looked into trying, but it is way to involved to start apache in debug mode on ubuntu. were you following a guide to setup modssl, if so let me have the link
[18:39] <bazhang> RickZilla, what did you need
[18:39] <jrib> RickZilla: this is for ubuntu technical support.  What's your question?
[18:39] <clem_> guys, i need the codes to apply the icon-theme folder instead of gnome in chroot, uck
[18:40] <RickZilla> No specific question right now, just making sure I've got right channel to bookmark. Just didn't want to ask user questions if it was dev only.
[18:40] <shadej> pfifo: sure http://learnedstuffs.wordpress.com/2011/10/06/setting-up-https-on-apache-web-server/
[18:40] <clem_> guys, i need the codes to apply the icon-theme folder instead of gnome in chroot, uck
[18:40] <jrib> RickZilla: you're in the right place then :)
[18:40] <quantalrabbit> i installed package nginx and then removed it and also manually removed /etc/nginx .  Now when I reinstall nginx, the stuff in /etc/nginx does not get restored.  Any help greatly appreciated.  thanks!
[18:41] <jrib> quantalrabbit: dpkg -S /etc/nginx
[18:41] <Greygan> RickZilla: This is User support. #ubuntu-devs is the dev support
[18:41] <SP33D> Greygan: psssst don't tell him its ok if he ask dev questions here too
[18:42] <SP33D> so the people can learn :D
[18:42] <quantalrabbit> jrib: thanks!
[18:42] <jrib> quantalrabbit: that should tell you the package responsible for those files
[18:42] <Greygan> LOL... yeah sorry. He was just asking which channel this was...
[18:43] <pfifo> stratfordv, it doesnt seem the writer is supported in linux :( which is weird for a dvd burner
[18:44] <stratfordv> pfifo no drivers from anywhere huh?  Guess I gotta get an external....  Thanks for the help
[18:46] <pfifo> stratfordv, i would just replace the internal one all together, external ones arent supported any better.
[18:46] <pfifo> shadej, can I have a updated version of your error.log
[18:48] <Kihokki> Hey, anyone else in problems with the new wine? Newest release broke my wine. Tried purging all related packages and installing new release but I get this: "E: Package 'wine1.6' has no installation candidate"
[18:48] <shadej> pfifo:  it is the same
[18:49] <jtwalters> any good resources to clean up an apache-related compromise? my server sent out thousands of emails in a perl script running as www-data
[18:49] <pussy> how to make linux distro based on ubuntu?
[18:49] <bazhang> Kihokki, the #winehq PPA?
[18:49] <DJones> !remaster | pussy
[18:49] <Kihokki> bazhang, They told me to go here
[18:49] <jrib> Kihokki: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy wine
[18:49] <bazhang> Kihokki, is that the one?
[18:49] <pussy> how to install remaster in ubuntu 13.04?
[18:50] <DiamondBoy1979> hello everyone
[18:50] <bazhang> pussy, read the links
[18:50] <jrib> oh sorry, followhat bazhang says first, Kihokki
[18:50] <DJones> pussy: Read the links, that tells you what to do
[18:51] <Kihokki> bazhang, Yes, I'm using their PPA and asked their channel about this
[18:51] <bazhang> Kihokki, contact the PPA maintainer then
[18:51] <trism> Kihokki: looking at the ppa, wine1.6 failed to copy for quantal and raring, so only precise binaries are there at the moment
[18:52] <X-Sleepy-X> !cookie | trism
[18:52] <pfifo> shadej, how much memory does your apache machine have?
[18:52] <Kihokki> trism, So it's possible that this will be fixed soon?
[18:52] <shadej> pfifo: i dont know
[18:53] <trism> Kihokki: yes it is really recent, about 9 hours ago, I'm sure it'll get sorted out in a day or two
[18:53] <shadej> let me see
[18:53] <pfifo> shadej, just 'free -m'
[18:53] <Kihokki> trism, Well thanks alot! :)
[18:54] <shadej> pfifo:i have free 489 mb
[18:57]  * X-Sleepy-X wonders what to do when everything works
[19:02] <maxagaz> hi
[19:02] <maxagaz> how to get this package: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/saucy/twidge/saucy-proposed
[19:02] <oal> Is it possible to disable the "type to search" thing in nautilus?
[19:03] <bazhang> !13.10 | maxagaz
[19:04] <maxagaz> bazhang: twidge is not working anymore because of a change in twitter api, so I need this very new package
[19:04] <pfifo> shadej, can you run 'ls -l /etc/ssl/certs/server.crt && ls -l /etc/ssl/private/server.key'
[19:04] <bazhang> maxagaz, thats for saucy. dont mix repos
[19:04] <nyR3dnek> hmmm...how can i config my web server to NOT redirect to www.foo.bar instead of just foo.bar?
[19:04] <maxagaz> bazhang: that would only be for this package
[19:05] <maxagaz> bazhang: should I better install the tar.bz that's here: https://launchpad.net/debian/sid/+source/twidge/1.1.0/+files/twidge_1.1.0.tar.gz ?
[19:05] <nyR3dnek> one of my sites insists of loading the page with www, and i'm not sure why
[19:05] <maxagaz> but then, it won't be taken in charge...
[19:06] <shadej> pfifo: what -l
[19:06] <shadej> do you mean -la
[19:06] <pussy> how to make linux distro based on ubuntu?
[19:06] <shadej> if that is the case yes i cn do
[19:06] <bazhang> !reamaster> pussy
[19:06] <pussy> how to install remaster in ubuntu 13.04?
[19:07] <pfifo> shadej, -a does nothing in this context as im only intrested in 1 file (-a == all)
[19:07] <bittyx-desktop> hi all! i'm having trouble installing/running ubuntu. i've downloaded 13.04 (desktop amd64 version). when i try booting the system (before installation), either from a flash drive, or my dvd reader, i get the same error: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B9evADzc2Oweb3psd0M5dkVpczg/edit?usp=sharing - i've figured out that ata8 *is* my dvd reader, so i've tried unplugging it, and successfully install
[19:07] <bittyx-desktop> ed 13.04, so that was indeed the problem! however, when i plug it back in, ubuntu won't even start - it hangs on a black screen while booting. i've since tried installing 12.04 (also desktop amd64), and i have the exact same problem. anyone knows what's going on? the dvd drive in question is this one: https://www.avadirect.com/product_details_parts.asp?PRID=25670 - and it works without any problem
[19:07] <bittyx-desktop> s whatsoever on win7 (64-bit).
[19:07] <FloodBot1> bittyx-desktop: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:07] <zeheex_in_c> can we copy manually an execute file from ubuntu to another distro sbin or bin code?(example:gcc we want to copy it to sbin or bin in another distro) is it can?
[19:07] <zeheex_in_c> *can we copy manually an execute file from ubuntu to another distro sbin or bin folder?(example:gcc we want to copy it to sbin or bin in another distro) is it can?
[19:07] <bazhang> pussy, Read The Links
[19:07] <auronandace> !uck | pussy
[19:07] <shadej> pfifo: then what?
[19:08] <pfifo> pastebin the results if its more than one line
[19:08] <raven_> traffic bonding: who has done that already? upstream to one device, downstream from another
[19:08] <maxagaz> bazhang: ah, no binary in this package...
[19:08] <bazhang> raven_, thats not really an ubuntu question
[19:08] <pussy> i dont want to use ubuntu name in my os, it would be the dirrent name like PussyOS
[19:09] <shadej> pfifo:  result
[19:09] <shadej> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 944 ጁን  15 09:02 /etc/ssl/certs/server.crt
[19:09] <zeheex_in_c> **can we copy manually an execute file from ubuntu to another distro sbin or bin folder?(example:gcc we want to copy it to sbin or bin in another distro) is it can?
[19:09] <raven_> bazhang, so where to find an answer
[19:10] <zeheex_in_c> and how to know what files that needed by gcc?
[19:10] <pussy> how to make linux distro based on ubuntu?
[19:10] <auronandace> zeheex_in_c: no, things will break
[19:11] <DJones> pussy: You've been given that information multiple times, please stop asking and read the links you've been given
[19:11] <maxagaz> can I install this deb http://packages.debian.org/sid/twidge on ubuntu 11.04 server ?
[19:11] <maxagaz> version i386 I guess
[19:11] <auronandace> maxagaz: 11.04 is no longer supported
[19:12] <shadej> pfifo: ?
[19:12] <maxagaz> auronandace: can I upgrade it ?
[19:12] <pfifo> shadej, and the other cert too 'ls -l /etc/ssl/private/server.key'
[19:12] <TomJ616> Hey guys, is it possible to install ubuntu via netboot but without download anything?
[19:12] <maxagaz> auronandace: or not anymore
[19:12] <maxagaz> ?
[19:12] <auronandace> maxagaz: better to fresh install a supported ubuntu version
[19:12] <SP33D> TomJ616: i don't think so
[19:12] <maxagaz> auronandace: I have to much stuff installed on this server
[19:13] <TomJ616> What I mean by that is, I have the iso file on my computer, but can't install it because my monitor goes "out of range"
[19:13] <shadej> pfifo: result
[19:13] <shadej> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 891 ጁን  15 09:02 /etc/ssl/private/server.key
[19:13] <TomJ616> And from what I understand, a netboot install is a text install
[19:13] <auronandace> maxagaz: you should have upgraded it while it was supported
[19:13] <pfifo> shadej, is that foreign language stuff supposed to be there?
[19:13] <SP33D> TomJ616: download the alternate install iso
[19:13] <tables> how can i see all the files for a package?
[19:13] <tables> that's installed?
[19:13] <maxagaz> auronandace: I'm always afraid some error occure
[19:13] <SP33D> there is a iso called alternate
[19:13] <SP33D> that offers the install you need
[19:14] <maxagaz> auronandace: and that this remote server doesn't restart
[19:14] <shadej> pfifo:  it is a date
[19:14] <auronandace> maxagaz: that doesn't change the support rules
[19:14] <shadej> i just copy and paste
[19:14] <TomJ616> Yeah, but I think I have to download ubuntu again then
[19:14] <TomJ616> Right?
[19:14] <SP33D> TomJ616: right
[19:14] <SP33D> fully right
[19:14] <SP33D> :D
[19:14] <maxagaz> auronandace: ok, so no way to update it anymore, right ?
[19:14] <SP33D> you download ubuntu alternate cd iso
[19:14] <TomJ616> I'm on a limited data plan :/
[19:14] <SP33D> or server install
[19:15] <SP33D> TomJ616: then travel to next internet coffe shop
[19:15] <SP33D> or else
[19:15] <pfifo> shadej, when you start apache does it ask for a password?
[19:15] <danielkarlsson> maxagaz: I always fear that the same thing will happen. If you have the resources I would install a newer version on a new server then migrate the services one at the time, that way you can't lose anything.
[19:15] <TomJ616> So tgere isn't a way to pull off a text install of some sort?
[19:15] <TomJ616> there*
[19:15] <shadej> pfifo: i am using sudo
[19:15] <SP33D> TomJ616: nope thats not possible
[19:16] <shadej> do you mean the password for the certificate?
[19:16] <SP33D> thats coz there is a alternate iso it gets used when normal install fails
[19:16] <maxagaz> danielkarlsson: I don't have the ressources unfortunately
[19:16] <OerHeks> !!alternate
[19:16] <pfifo> shadej, well sudo itself will ask for a password, then it should ask for another one to unlock the private key
[19:16] <OerHeks> SP33D,  use the mini iso
[19:16] <SP33D> ^
[19:16] <shadej> pfifo: i made it to be passwordless
[19:16] <SP33D> TomJ616: ^
[19:17] <SP33D> download the mini iso
[19:17] <SP33D> :D
[19:17] <shadej> SP33D: pfifo trying to help join us please
[19:17] <auronandace> shadej: that was a mistake
[19:17] <TomJ616> Like I said, limited data plan :/
[19:17] <shadej> auronandace: which one?
[19:17] <auronandace> shadej: disabling the password
[19:18] <SP33D> shadej: they simply don't understand your problem there is no password for apache
[19:18] <SP33D> shadej:  they try to tell you when you do first time sudo a command
[19:18] <shadej> SP33D: they are talking about the certificate password
[19:18] <SP33D> it ask for the sudo password but then you don't get reasked
[19:19] <X-Sleepy-X> !sudo
[19:19] <SP33D> no no the cert isn't the problem
[19:19] <danielkarlsson> maxagaz: Sometimes you have to take the bull by the horns. If you run a dist-upgrade everything should/might work, but best thing to do is a clean install.
[19:19] <SP33D> you can run apache even without a cert
[19:19] <SP33D> in ssl mode
[19:19] <SP33D> i am coder from apache and i know such things
[19:19] <shadej> SP33D: ok
[19:19] <pfifo> shadej, does this fix your problem http://www.clausconrad.com/blog/apache-segmentation-fault-after-enabling-ssl
[19:20] <SP33D> and if it would be a fail with the cert then there would be a other log
[19:20] <shadej> SP33D: yeah
[19:20] <SP33D> ah ya the link sounds nice
[19:20] <SP33D> try that
[19:20] <SP33D> disabling crul
[19:21] <SP33D> like i sayed maybe its a bug
[19:21] <SP33D> that would be such a bug
[19:22] <shadej> pfifo: what is the use of the curl module?
[19:23] <pfifo> shadej, its used to access network from within your php scripts, like you could use curl to make an online ftp client for your webserver
[19:23] <pfifo> or spam the crap out of 4chan which has been my main use of curl to date
[19:23] <yofun> how do i check whats running on port 98
[19:23] <yofun> ?
[19:23] <shadej> pfifo: but i cant get it on the location they specified
[19:24] <bekks> yofun: sudo lsof -i
[19:24] <pfifo> shadej, rty disabling php all together, but leave ssl on
[19:24] <yofun> oh wait...
[19:24] <yofun> socket.error: [Errno 98] Address already in use
[19:24] <yofun> thats not a port///
[19:24]  * yofun facepalm
[19:25] <shadej> pfifo: ok
[19:25] <afancy> Hi, I have T530 Lenovo Laptop, and in my office I have a big monitor. But I failed to root to the connected external screen when I start the Ubuntu. Could anybody help me this problem? thanks!
[19:25] <shadej> pfifo: what is the service name for php
[19:26] <shadej> pfifo: how could i do that
[19:26] <pfifo> shadej, unlink php5.conf and php5.load from /etc/apache2/mode-enabled
[19:26] <afancy> Hi, I have T530 Lenovo Laptop, and in my office I have a big monitor. But I failed to boot to the connected external screen when I start the Ubuntu. Could anybody help me this problem? thanks!
[19:27] <BluesKaj> !patience | afancy
[19:27] <afancy> ok, thanks
[19:27] <shadej> pfifo: do you mean i have to remove those files {backup}
[19:28] <Greygan> afancy: So, it boots but just doesnt come up on the external monitor. Is this correct?
[19:28] <afancy> yes
[19:28] <afancy> Granis:i have googled, but not able to find any solution
[19:29] <Greygan> afancy: does the external monitor show up in system settings / displays?
[19:29] <raks437> i need help to recover my Ubuntu installed in Wubi
[19:30] <Ashael> hello
[19:30] <afancy> Greygan:no, it does not show anything. If i select the menu to boot to windows 7, it can boot to the external screen,
[19:31] <contrapunctus> Guys, is there something that shows keyboard input? Like, what command it is sending? I need to debug my touchpad enable/disable key :(
[19:31] <shadej> pfifo: i removed the files and there is no change
[19:31] <X-Sleepy-X> afancy: how is the monitor connected to the laptop?
[19:31] <Greygan> afancy: booting to the screen is not in question. Does Ubuntu see the external monitor in "system settings / displays"?
[19:31] <afancy> X-Sleepy-X:i use a laptop stand
[19:32] <afancy> Granis:not, it cannot show any external monitor
[19:32] <jcrza> I need a decent ubuntu laptop
[19:32] <X-Sleepy-X> afancy: and from that stand/dock is it connected by VGA, DVI or HDMI?
[19:32] <jcrza> just for programming and the like.
[19:33] <jcrza> What would you guys get?
[19:33] <jcrza> I wanted to put ubuntu on my surface but I heard bad things
[19:33] <pfifo> shadej, lets have another look at the error.log file then
[19:34] <shadej> pfifo: the error log file is still empty
[19:34] <afancy> X-Sleepy-X:yes, dock is connected to the external screen
[19:34] <shadej> it is weired
[19:34] <pfifo> shadej, unlink, they should be a link to ../mods-available/php5.conf
[19:34] <Ashael> How can I display my locale settings in a language different from the default one for said locale?
[19:34] <pfifo> shadej, ohh, restart apache
[19:35] <shadej> pfifo: i did
[19:35] <X-Sleepy-X> afancy: if you connect the monitor directly to the laptop, are you then able to see the monitor in the settings / monitor menu?
[19:35] <pfifo> shadej, and it didnt log any errors :D
[19:35] <afancy> X-Sleepy-X:i didnt try that
[19:35] <shadej> pfifo: yeah
[19:35] <shadej> this is disgusting
[19:35] <pfifo> shadej, and when you navigate to http://10.0.0.13
[19:35] <afancy> X-Sleepy-X:i only try to dock  my laptop on the stand.
[19:36] <wilee-nilee>  X-Sleepy-X, Settings-displays
[19:36] <X-Sleepy-X> wilee-nilee: Thanks, I don't have Ubuntu in english...
[19:37] <shadej> pfifo: nothing happens
[19:37] <shadej> it does not connecct
[19:38] <rhizome> so, apparently dragging files to a blank cdr makes them pending even though they appear to be on the disc. how can i get these to actually burn? brasero etc. will see it?
[19:38] <pfifo> shadej, so the server isnt running and it didnt log any errors? is the log file still blank and owned by www-data
[19:38] <rhizome> hm
[19:40] <shadej> pfifo: it is not owned by www-data
[19:41] <TopGear> Is there a way to df the external HD on my RPi? The only I get is this: http://pastebin.com/QtN5KiPP
[19:42] <Raif> To anyone...what's the best cpu fan/temp sensor program for Ubuntu 12?
[19:42] <shadej> pfifo:  i changed the ownership to www-data nothing new
[19:42] <pfifo> shadej, scratch that mine is owned by root:adm
[19:43] <Ashael> anyone: I prefer my display lanugage to be English, but I'm in Israel and my locale settings (coinage, weekdays etc.) show up in Hebrew. I'd like to use Israel's settings, but in English. any idea?
[19:43] <X-Sleepy-X> brb, something weird has happend to unity
[19:43] <pfifo> shadej, go ahead and relink the php5 stuff back into mods-enabled
[19:43] <shadej> pfifo: i simple took them back to their position
[19:43] <shadej> is it enough?
[19:45] <pfifo> shadej, yeah, you didnt need to save the link but its ok
[19:45] <shadej> ok
[19:45] <minimec> jcrza: I fell in love with lenovo. Got a X230 here. Other machines can be found here http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[19:45] <jcrza> nice.
[19:46] <jcrza> I'd like to just install it on my surface
[19:46] <orangerobot> i've plugged in a usb stick and nothing happened. ok, so I opened the network dropdown on the top taskbar and checked 'enable mobile broadband'. configured a new connection and all, but still it didn't work. (connection attempt was never successful.). Now I've *un*-checked said option and now it works. what is this devilry? =P
[19:46] <shadej> pfifo: this is amazing
[19:46] <shadej> as a beginner i start to hate ubuntu
[19:47] <shadej> it must be operating system problem
[19:47] <pfifo> shadej, yes this is ubuntus bug
[19:47] <SP33D> this is not a general bug
[19:47] <SP33D> i use ubuntu too with ssl
[19:47] <X-Sleepy-X> pff, it's a feature...
[19:48] <SP33D> don't gut such errors
[19:48] <X-Sleepy-X> :)
[19:48] <Ashael> anyone: I prefer my display lanugage to be English, but I'm in Israel and my locale settings (coinage, weekdays etc.) show up in Hebrew. I'd like to use Israel's settings, but in English. any idea?
[19:48] <pfifo> shadej, modssl whats a certian version of libssl, and php's curl wants a different version.
[19:48] <minimec> jcrza: Ubuntu installation on a surface pro seems possible, but I don't know if it is 100% supported... http://www.geek.com/microsoft/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-the-surface-pro-1539262/
[19:48] <pfifo> SP33D, he did a dist-upgrade, that created the mismatch
[19:48] <SP33D> ah i understand
[19:49] <SP33D> bad boy :D never update a server if you don't know what your doing
[19:49] <SP33D> never heard about never touch a running system?
[19:49] <shadej> pfifo: when i disable the ssl mod it imediatley works
[19:49] <shadej> it does not say port in use
[19:50] <Greygan> Ashael: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/17528/change-the-user-interface-language-in-ubuntu/
[19:50] <X-Sleepy-X> Ashael: you need to open the settings and go to language and then regional formats...
[19:51] <SP33D> but i was thinking about incompatiblity with the libssl too
[19:51] <SP33D> is it now working without php5 crul?
[19:52] <shadej> SP33D: yeah
[19:52] <SP33D> good to know
[19:53] <Ashael> Greygan, X-Sleepy-X: I'm not sure you got me. The locale settings and the language for the display of the locale settings are coupled, I want to decouple them so I can use an Israeli weekday order, but displayed in English and not in Hebrew.
[19:53] <Greygan> Ashael: the write up on that page shows how to keep currency and things the same and only change language output.
[19:53] <shadej> SP33D:  pfifo what about this one:
[19:53] <shadej> Conflicting Listen directives
[19:54] <SP33D> that says that you got to much listen in you configs
[19:54] <SP33D> :D
[19:54] <SP33D> so it conflicts
[19:54] <SP33D> :D
[19:54] <FloodBot1> SP33D: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:54] <Ashael> Greygan: thanks, will give it a try
[19:54] <SP33D> i use your pearl shell as temp drive FloodBot1
[19:55] <shadej> FloodBot we are busy
[19:55] <shadej> try to help if you can
[19:55] <IdleOne> stop talking to the bot, it won't respond.
[19:56] <shadej> what?
[19:56] <shadej> hah..
[19:56] <pfifo> shadej, I think you should compile mod_ssl manually
[19:57] <shadej> pfifo:  where is the module btw?
[19:57] <shadej> i did not install it
[19:57] <shadej> i just loaded it
[19:57] <pfifo> shadej, its part of the apache2.2-common package
[19:57] <shadej> how can i recompile it then
[19:58] <shadej> pfifo:
[19:58] <pfifo> shadej, im looking into it
[20:01] <pfifo> shadej, unfortunatly, you have to buid the whole server just to rebuild the one module, but in the end, mod_ssl will be using the version of libssl thats installed on your system... have you ever compiled a package before?
[20:02] <daze> I'm using unity-daily on Arch. When I search for an application (<super> + first few letters) and click on it, it opens a 'details' view with 'no image available', 'rating', and a 'launch' button. I'd rather it launched it directly after clicking. What is this new behavior? Can I change it? :)
[20:02] <shadej> pfifo: nope
[20:02] <Flannel> shadej, pfifo: Why are we doing this?  Did we manually install something else that wants a different version?
[20:03] <pfifo> Flannel, dist-upgrade upgraded libssl, and now his apache's mod_ssl wants one version, while php wants a different version
[20:04] <Flannel> shadej: what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[20:04] <shadej> Flannel:  13.04
[20:04] <pfifo> shadej, im going to step out for a moment, Flannel may have a better way
[20:05] <shadej> Flannel: have you heard the question/
[20:05] <shadej> pfifo: does it take long to recompile the whole apache?
[20:06] <Flannel> shadej: Don't worry, we won't be recompiling anything.  We'll just be fixing things.
[20:07] <Flannel> shadej: Can you please pastebin the output of `apt-cache policy openssl libssl1.0.0 apache2.2-common libapache2-mod-php5`
[20:11] <pfifo> shadej, hours upon hours
[20:11] <shadej> pfifo: am here the whole day
[20:12] <shadej> what a bad day!
[20:13] <shadej> pfifo: i can see i can not be a system administrator
[20:13] <mvalviar> Hello. I installed win7 in uefi mode then xubuntu 12.04 in uefi mode. But now I can't boot to my win7 install via grub.
[20:13] <pfifo> shadej, I think I see where Flannel is going with this his way will be easy
[20:13] <mvalviar> I can still boot to the win7 install by via bios boot selection menu. How do I fix grub?
[20:15] <Greygan> mvalviar: have you tried "sudo update-grub"?
[20:16] <ultraParadigm> what window manager still plays well with compiz?
[20:16] <mvalviar> I just ran and update after installing i believe that command ran. Let me try again.
[20:16] <ultraParadigm> I'm tired of all the problems I'm having with unity, xfce, and now even gnome and cairo-dock seem to be conflicint with compiz
[20:17] <shadej> Flannel: here we go
[20:17] <shadej> http://pastebin.com/1FYFGjmy
[20:17] <shadej> pfifo: ^
[20:17] <mvalviar> sudo update-grub can't see the win7 install
[20:17] <mvalviar> both of them are eufi.
[20:18] <mvalviar> I don't know why grub can't see the windows install
[20:18] <ultraParadigm> maybe it ignoes rubish
[20:18] <ultraParadigm> ignores*
[20:19] <X-Sleepy-X> !cookie | ultraParadigm
[20:20] <Greygan> mvalviar: looks like they have a solution here that works...    http://askubuntu.com/questions/110005/windows-7-doesnt-show-up-in-grub-after-installation
[20:21] <Flannel> shadej: Ok, I don't see anything horrendously wrong there, but I do notice your php5 isn't up to date.  You said you got into this mess by doing a dist-upgrade?  What was the command you ran?
[20:22] <shadej> Flannel: i did not do any dist-upgrade
[20:23] <Flannel> shadej: Oh, I thought I saw that earlier.  So what did you do, other than follow that guide?  And what errors are you seeing?
[20:23] <shadej> Flannel: there is when i enable the ssl mod
[20:24] <shadej> apache2 is not restaring normally
[20:24] <Flannel> shadej: with a2enmod ssl, right?
[20:24] <Psycholiquid71> I know this is not the correct venu for this but does anyone here use couchpotato
[20:24] <shadej> it say port is already in use
[20:24] <shadej> Flannel: yes
[20:25] <Flannel> shadej: instead of "restart", try stopping and then starting apache.
[20:25] <Flannel> shadej: Does the stop work successfully?  (can you verify that you aren't serving anything) and then does the start happen without errors?
[20:25] <shadej> Flannel: i did that too
[20:25] <lshkn> Elvira i naidu tebe filmu!
[20:25] <Flannel> shadej: and?
[20:26] <shadej> Flannel: nothing happens
[20:26] <shadej> same
[20:26] <poppingtonic> Hi all
[20:26] <Flannel> shadej: same means what?  Does it successfully stop?  Can you verify it's not serving?  Does it successfully start?
[20:27] <poppingtonic> So...I'm running 12.04 LTS on an Acer AO751h
[20:27] <shadej> Flannel:  just to be sure let me do it again for you
[20:27] <Flannel> shadej: wonderful, thanks.
[20:27] <shadej> hah..
[20:28] <shadej> i issued "sudo service apache2 stop"
[20:28] <shadej> result:
[20:28] <shadej>                                                                                                        apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[20:28] <shadej> then it is ok
[20:29] <shadej> Flannel: i issued the command "sudo service apache2 start"
[20:29] <shadej> result is :
[20:29] <shadej>                                                                                                            apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[20:29] <shadej> (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:80
[20:29] <poppingtonic> And whenever I need to search for my Android phone's hotspot, I go to System Settings>Network, turn off the wireless network, turn it on again, and everthing works out.
[20:29] <pfifo> shadej, now look at the error.log again
[20:29] <Flannel> shadej: Alright.  The FQDN message isn't anything to worry about, but it's easy to fix.
[20:29] <poppingtonic> *everything
[20:30] <Flannel> shadej: Where did PHP come into this?  If you don't mind me asking.
[20:30] <shadej> Flannel: what do you mean?
[20:31] <pfifo> Flannel, that was part of my researchusing conflicting vversions of libssl, According to his older error.log hes getting a segfault upon starting the server, and google gave me many hits about php's curl and mod_ssl
[20:31] <Flannel> shadej: I don't know, when I came in, there was a lot of talk about PHP and SSL not agreeing.
[20:31] <poppingtonic> Until about an hour ago, when I can't turn it back on again, no matter what I do. The slider keeps sliding back to the "Off" state.
[20:32] <pfifo> Flannel, http://pastebin.com/K3UjcuPq
[20:32] <Flannel> shadej: Alright, can you please pastebin your /etc/apache2/sites-available/default-ssl ?
[20:33] <shadej> Flannel: pfifo was guessing if php curl extenssion was creating a problem
[20:34] <varunendra> poppingtonic, did you try a reboot? Did you have any updates that seem to have done it?
[20:35] <shadej> Flannel: ok here we go
[20:35] <shadej> http://pastebin.com/GKppd6rk
[20:35] <Flannel> shadej: Alright, thats looks normal.  So again, can you please stop apache, and then point your browser to http://localhost and see if there's something being served there?
[20:35] <MariachiAC> can someone tell me how to use mactel-boot-setup? or am I just better off booting via grub on my mac system.
[20:36] <shadej> Flannel: i did
[20:36] <shadej> and there is no
[20:36] <Flannel> shadej: And was there anything being served?
[20:36] <Flannel> ok
[20:37] <shadej> you fast at everything btw
[20:37] <pfifo> Flannel, we adjusted it to 'Listen 10.0.0.13:80' so no localhost in this case
[20:37] <shadej> =D
[20:37] <Flannel> pfifo: What?
[20:38] <pfifo> Flannel, never changed it back yet, were only listening on 10.0.0.13, shouldnt serve anything on 127.0.0.1 whatsoever
[20:38] <shadej> pfifo: i did earased that
[20:38] <shadej> *erased
[20:38] <Flannel> pfifo: Where did we change this?
[20:38] <shadej> ports.conf
[20:38] <Flannel> why would you do that?
[20:39] <pfifo> /etc/apache2/ports.conf
[20:39] <TopGear> Is there a way to df the external HD on my RPi? The only I get is this: http://pastebin.com/QtN5KiPP Even making a new mount for the drive in smb.conf and mounting that on my laptop doesn't help.
[20:39] <pfifo> Flannel, general trouble shooting at the begining of the day
[20:39] <shadej> pfifo: sure
[20:40] <pfifo> (his IP is 10.0.0.13 of course)
[20:40] <poppingtonic> varunendra: whenever I reboot and do the ritual, it recurs. I have no idea what I might've broken since I haven't installed any recent updates...
[20:41] <shadej> Flannel: just go on with your test
[20:41] <shadej> i have undo that
[20:41] <Flannel> shadej: Alright, can you please stop apache, and then pastebin `netstat -tlp`?
[20:41] <Flannel> shadej: and while you're at it, please pastebin your ports.conf, I just want to be sure we're all on the same page.
[20:43] <rfwef> hi
[20:43] <varunendra> poppingtonic, please show us what card and driver you have in use. The output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net". Also, outputs of "rfkill list" and "lsmod". Paste the outputs to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and post its link here
[20:44] <varunendra> !pastebin | poppingtonic
[20:45] <shadej> Flannel: the ports.conf file
[20:45] <shadej> http://pastebin.com/ZAUYZrqK
[20:46] <varunendra> poppingtonic, or you can use this script to generate a detailed diagnostics info report on your wireless : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[20:47] <shadej> Flannel: the netstat -tlp
[20:47] <shadej> http://pastebin.com/QPn2Vp2K
[20:48] <Flannel> shadej: Ok, the latter tells us that we aren't conflicting with any other services.  Your ports.conf, your line 16 (see the pastebin) should be Listen 443 not Listen 80.
[20:49]  * poppingtonic does that
[20:50] <shadej> Flannel: so i am changing it to listen 443 ?
[20:50] <Flannel> shadej: Correct.
[20:50] <pfifo> shadej, careful, he said line 16, the one at the bottom
[20:50] <Flannel> The second one.
[20:50] <Flannel> The third one is already 443
[20:51] <pfifo> right, no tls involved here
[20:51] <shadej> Flannel:  and pfifo problem solve
[20:51] <shadej> :-D
[20:51] <shadej> *solved
[20:51] <Flannel> shadej: Good to hear.
[20:51] <shadej> Flannel: thank you very much
[20:52] <pfifo> really? that was causing segfaults?
[20:52] <shadej> pfifo: you were with me almost the whole day
[20:52] <shadej> thank you too
[20:52] <shadej> pfifo: yeah who knows
[20:53] <poppingtonic> varunendra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769034/
[20:53] <Sanjay_> Get free traffic for website http://t.co/EP8Z5I1EMu
[20:53] <shadej> may there could be a procedure who is trying to read from a socket where port number is not succesfully allocated
[20:53] <pfifo> I hope that line didnt get installed by default, or were going to be facing this problem all the time
[20:55] <Flannel> pfifo: That was causing apache to try to listen to :80 twice, obviously the second time it couldn't.
[20:55] <pfifo> shadej, now, you need to continue with the guide, it seemed like you got stuck halfway through.
[20:55] <Baribal> Hi. I want to sync files between  few computers, one of which qualifies as a server. I want syncing to be automagically,  Dropbox-style: Moving a file into a designated folder should replicate it on all involved machines ASAP. What package can you recommend?
[20:55] <shadej> pfifo: yeah
[20:55] <shadej> i will
[20:55] <varunendra> poppingtonic, it shows "hard blocked : yes", which means wireless is disabled by hardware switch. Do you have a physical switch or a 'Fn' key combination to toggle the wireless on/off? Try toggling it.
[20:55] <shadej> but how could this happen?
[20:56] <Flannel> shadej: to fix your FQDN issue: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Troubleshooting_Apache
[20:56] <shadej> who put that listen 80
[20:56] <pfifo> Flannel, yeah, but that shouldnt cause a segfault... you can read() and write() to a null socket successfully.
[20:56] <Flannel> shadej: Somewhere along the line, you edited that file to make that 80 instead of 443.
[20:56] <Flannel> pfifo: What segfaults are you talking about?
[20:56] <pfifo> Flannel, the ones in his error.log http://pastebin.com/K3UjcuPq
[20:57] <zykotick9> Baribal: my go-to sync is rsync, but with your "requirements" i'd look at unison.  good luck.
[20:58] <Baribal> Thanks.
[20:58] <zykotick9> meLon: try "source ~/.bashrc" perhaps
[20:58] <Flannel> pfifo: that's on the shutdown side, not the startup side.
[20:59] <Flannel> pfifo: so, I'm not sure what's causing it, but it's unrelated.
[21:00] <pfifo> I say we ignore it then and just settle for a working setup
[21:04] <shadej> Flannel: a little question again
[21:04] <shadej> [Sat Jun 15 18:02:46 2013] [warn] _default_ VirtualHost overlap on port 443, the first has precedence
[21:04] <Flannel> shadej: You have more than one virtual host listening on 443.  default-ssl and some other one.
[21:05] <shadej> ok
[21:06] <pfifo> Flannel, is that FQDN problem something I should worry about? Ive always known howto fix it but never bothered.
[21:10] <Flannel> pfifo: It's not something to *worry* about, but there are cases where it helps.  Since it's trivial to fix, I say fix it ;)
[21:10] <shadej> pfifo: my .htaccess file is not working as expected it to [or as it was working before enabling https]
[21:10] <shadej> RewriteEngine on
[21:10] <shadej> RewriteRule user.php admin.php
[21:11] <Baribal> zykotick9, unison seems to require manual triggering, too. Which could be done by cron, of course, but do you know whether it handles parallel instances well?
[21:11] <pfifo> shadej, you may need to drop a few directives in your 443 virtual host to tell it to use an .htaccess
[21:11] <shadej> aha..
[21:11] <ss_haze> kdenlive bugs me out again with not installed libx264
[21:12] <shadej> allowoverride all
[21:12] <shadej> ?
[21:12] <ss_haze> what should I do to get h264 format or avi to work with it
[21:12] <ThePendulum> How do I disable the on-screen keyboard that appears when my screen is locked?
[21:13] <pfifo> shadej, yeah, allowoverride all... or whatever is acceptable to overrider
[21:13] <shadej> yeah it is working
[21:13] <ss_haze> I have new ubuntu installation
[21:14] <ss_haze> I haven't added kdenlive repo like last time
[21:14] <Greygan> ThePendulum: Round icon in the upper right of screen (In Gnome anyway) click it and untick onscreen kb
[21:14] <ss_haze> why h264 doesnt work with Ubuntu in KDENLIVE?
[21:14] <ss_haze> 32 bit i5 system, standart ubuntu 12.04 I have
[21:15] <Greygan> ThePendulum: otherwise it is in system settings / universal settings
[21:16] <ss_haze> I run wizard again and it clearly doesn't works
[21:18] <th0r> ss_haze: have you installed libx264?
[21:18] <ThePendulum> Greygan: That's only for the onscreen keyboard when logged in
[21:18] <ss_haze> there is no such named library
[21:18] <ThePendulum> I have that disabled
[21:18] <ThePendulum> But for some reason it keeps appearing when locked
[21:19] <th0r> ss_haze: open a terminal and type 'sudo apt-get install libx264-120
[21:19] <Greygan> ThePendulum: not sure then. thats where mine is enabled and I only see it at login / unlock...
[21:19] <ss_haze> I have
[21:19] <ss_haze> again this problem comes
[21:19] <th0r> ss_haze: have you enabled the universe repo?
[21:20] <ss_haze> ok lets see
[21:20] <ss_haze> I guess
[21:20] <ThePendulum> Greygan: Ah, wait. I had to enable it, then go to the on-screen keyboard settings, and disable the lockscreen keyboard there
[21:20] <Greygan> ThePendulum: try this ... http://askubuntu.com/questions/84050/how-do-i-disable-the-on-screen-keyboard-in-the-unlock-screen
[21:21] <ss_haze> precise-security , updates and backports are there
[21:21] <Greygan> ThePendulum: ahh
[21:21] <ss_haze> I have standart installation, why the hell on standart you don't get something, even with Ubuntu restricted installed
[21:21] <ss_haze> even my old PC doesn't give this crap
[21:22] <th0r> ss_haze: that attitude gets you nowhere
[21:22] <checoimg> Does anyone know how to compile the Linux kernel ? Or get the sources ?
[21:22] <ss_haze> I know
[21:22] <pfifo> !mainstream | checoimg
[21:22] <ss_haze> but why I have to struggle with codecs, when I have every package I need
[21:22] <checoimg> pfifo : ???
[21:23] <pfifo> !kernel | checoimg
[21:23] <pfifo> checoimg, sorry, seems !mainstream doesnt do the same anymore
[21:24] <checoimg> I want to learn how to compile it
[21:24] <checoimg> pfifo : Ok no problem
[21:24] <Greygan> http://www.wikihow.com/Compile-the-Linux-Kernel
[21:25] <pfifo> checoimg, actually you want to learn to configure it for compiling, thats the hard part, the actual build part is one simple command
[21:25] <pfifo> !mainline | checoimg
[21:25] <pfifo> there we go
[21:26] <checoimg> ubottu : I want to compile for a i5-480M
[21:27] <ss_haze> I have ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:27] <ss_haze> why video can't remder in any format kdenlive
[21:27] <checoimg> let me see
[21:27] <ss_haze> why mp4 container doesn't work
[21:27] <checoimg> !mainline | pfifo
[21:28] <checoimg> Ok
[21:28] <ss_haze> WHY?
[21:29] <ss_haze> kdenlive wizard told me I have all the formats, but why I can't render in them
[21:29] <ss_haze> Unsupported video codec: libx264
[21:29] <labsin> ss_haze: Had those issue to. Will try and find what I did to solve it
[21:29] <ss_haze> Unsupported video codec: libxvid
[21:29] <ss_haze> I did this once, and never came to reason why
[21:30] <ss_haze> I installed from repos, and the version also came wrong
[21:30] <ss_haze> then removed sunab repo, and again it was working
[21:30] <ss_haze> but now I don't have any repos
[21:30] <SP33D> ok i have a neard question :D i wanna learn and  use something new but be save that it don't fails
[21:30] <ss_haze> I have clean setup with brand new ubuntu, and I don't get codecs...
[21:31] <pfifo> SP33D, learn nethack
[21:31] <SP33D> i am planing to add one line to a existing file via: echo "line text" | tee /etc/bla.conf
[21:31] <ss_haze> SP33D, try python as calculator
[21:31] <SP33D> will that work?
[21:31] <ss_haze> never fails
[21:31] <ashutosh> i have installed ubuntu 13.04...i am getting sound through my laptop speakers but not via headphones ...plz help me
[21:31] <SP33D> will this add the line?
[21:32] <pfifo> SP33D, you want tee -a
[21:32] <SP33D> a means append probally thx
[21:32] <SP33D> yes i am not familary with that but i wanna use it :D since i used it yesterday to creat a new file i tought its a good way to create small files
[21:33] <pfifo> yes it does, most usage of tee is also combined with sudo too
[21:33] <SP33D> right that i now wanna use it to add a package source
[21:33] <SP33D> to the list file
[21:33] <SP33D> hope it works
[21:33] <ss_haze> miracle happened
[21:33] <labsin> ss_haze: can you do ´sudo apt-get install libavcodec-dev´
[21:34] <pfifo> SP33D, if you dont need sudo then you can simply `echo 'myline' >> myfile`
[21:34] <ss_haze> I got codecs back, by third time deleting kdenliverc file
[21:34] <ss_haze> so hardcore
[21:34] <SP33D> i need sudo since its the apt package list
[21:34] <SP33D> :D
[21:35] <jaouida> Bonjour y'a t'il des francais ?
[21:35] <crf> Hi. I am trying build gnubg. I cloned the hg repository from launchpad. Did apt-get build-dep. But It won't build the 3d board. It isn't finding gtkglext . I have libgtkglext1-dev
[21:35] <pfifo> !fr | jaouida
[21:36] <pfifo> crf, pastebin the buildlog
[21:37] <jaouida> Je doit taper ou ce code ?
[21:38] <jaouida> #ubuntu-fr
[21:38] <crf> pfifo : LOG: http://pastebin.com/FD0Ru4rb
[21:38] <pfifo> ashutosh, ask here, if you can find the tab
[21:39] <labsin> jaouida: c'est ´/join #ubuntu-fr´
[21:40] <trism> crf: it is often useful to check config.log to see what it is actually failing on, sometimes the test programs fail for other reasons
[21:41] <bertieb> Howdy folks, quick question- either in eg AbiWrod or the standard print dialogue, is there a way to print 4 copies (ie duplicates) on a single page? I know about the "pages per sheet" toption, but that only seems to apply if you have more than one page. Combining mupltiple pages per sheet and more than 1 copy doesn't seem to have the desired behaviour in print preview. WHere's the secret 'do what I mean' option I'm missing? :)
[21:41] <ashutosh> i have installed ubuntu 13.04...i am getting sound through my laptop speakers but not via headphones ...plz help me
[21:41] <bertieb> s/AbiWrod/AbiWord/
[21:43] <jaouida> join/ #ubuntu_qc
[21:44] <jaouida> join/ #ubuntu-qc
[21:44] <pfifo> crf, i bet you need to add --with-gtkglext=/path/to/lib because of the "1" that is tacked onto the lib's name
[21:44] <ashutosh> i have installed ubuntu 13.04...i am getting sound through my laptop speakers but not via headphones ...plz help me
[21:44] <bertieb> Sure, I could duplicate the page multiple times and use the multiple pages per sheet option, but then when the page is updated I'd have to remember to update the other copies. I'd like to know the Right Way to do it if possible
[21:48] <pfifo> crf, this could be related to a missing .pc file in /usr/lib/pkgconfig as well, does `pkg-config gtkglext` say anything useful?
[21:49] <pfifo> crf, sorry, `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtkglext`
[21:49] <crf> thanks pfifo, there was a clue: it needed the pangox to be installed
[21:50] <crf> pfifo, pkg-config gtkglext-1.0 works
[21:51] <bertieb> Aha, got it, eg: print pages: 1,1,1,1 + 4 pages per sheet has the intended behaviour in case anyone is interested :)
[21:52] <calimero82> Hello
[21:54] <calimero82> At the end of lubu-setup, i should shutt down or it s automatic?
[21:57] <crf> pfifo, thanks very much for your insight. So I've just built it, and it works with the 3d board. http://pasteboard.co/ntv8y5O.png
[22:07] <Guest478084> when does ubuntu unify across form factors?
[22:08] <Pingu> okay is anyone else getting high pitched sound from chrome on ubuntu?
[22:09] <Guest478084> crubuntu
[22:13] <THE_GFR|WORK> http://pastebin.com/bEYDgcUi
[22:13] <THE_GFR|WORK> oops
[22:13] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone I have a system that runs an Nvidia 680i chipset, for SLI with Intel QX9650 CPU.  I have an issue that when mint is loaded it feels like the fans are not being controlled by ACPI and are running at the max.  Ideas?
[22:13] <THE_GFR|WORK> I tried to see what was going on, I can't get it to read the fans
[22:13] <Pingu> first thing's first
[22:13] <Pingu> we don't support mint
[22:13] <THE_GFR|WORK> well ok
[22:14] <Pingu> http://tuxtweaks.com/2008/08/how-to-control-fan-speeds-in-ubuntu/
[22:14] <THE_GFR|WORK> it happened on my ubuntu machine too
[22:14] <Pingu> second thing is
[22:14] <Pingu> Nvidia has a LOT of issues with ubuntu
[22:14] <Pingu> and all other Linux distros for that matter
[22:14] <Pingu> do you have switchable graaphics?
[22:14] <THE_GFR|WORK> Pingu: yes
[22:15] <Pingu> good
[22:15] <Pingu> I'll asume it's a laptop
[22:15] <THE_GFR|WORK> Pingu: no
[22:15] <Pingu> use the tweak to config your fan
[22:15] <Pingu> I sent you the link up there
[22:15] <Pingu> :)
[22:15] <Pingu> I'm sure it'll be helpful
[22:15] <THE_GFR|WORK> Pingu: it indicates there is no pwm capable module installed
[22:16] <Guest478084> will ubuntu run on the gnu macbook aur
[22:16] <GunArm> i need to verify the data is the same between my primary and backup, what is the best way to recursively scan byte-by-byte each file in the trees and output the filenames of any that are different?
[22:17] <Pingu> Ubuntu/linux will run on any architecture and any hardware Guest
[22:17] <Pingu> GunArm hmm that's an interesting one
[22:18] <Pingu> I honestly don't know of a better way
[22:18] <Pingu> how many bytes do you have to verify
[22:18] <GunArm> 8tb
[22:18] <GunArm> lol
[22:19] <SP33D> if syslog takes 98% cpu
[22:19] <Pingu> woah
[22:19] <SP33D> how can i find out whats wrong
[22:19] <GunArm> Pingu: i was trying to use rsync with the checksum option but am getting results I don't understand
[22:19] <Pingu> do you know how to program mate?
[22:19] <Pingu> could make your own verification script
[22:19] <GunArm> i do, but I'm surprised if there isn't a simple shell way to do it
[22:19] <pfifo> GunArm, md5sum
[22:19] <GunArm> diff has a -r but its for textfiles it seems
[22:20] <GunArm> pfifo: you mean write a script that runs md5sum on each file and prints them if they are different?
[22:20] <Guest478084> aeven with that ms secureboot??
[22:20] <GunArm> i had a bad raid failure, which I have recovered form and am trying to verify the primary matches the backup
[22:20] <THE_GFR|WORK> Pingu: the directions you gave me, didn't work
[22:20] <pfifo> GunArm, no script nesscarry, md5sum has the --check option
[22:22] <THE_GFR|WORK> Pingu: [   17.879595] w83627ehf: Found W83627DHG chip at 0xa10
[22:22] <THE_GFR|WORK> [   17.879644] ACPI Warning: 0x0000000000000a15-0x0000000000000a16 SystemIO conflicts with Region \IOID 1 (20121018/utaddress-251)
[22:30] <delac> for some reason Unity is started on fallback mode. How do I stop it?
[22:32] <SP33D>  what can i do syslog and kern.log
[22:32] <SP33D> always getting bigger and don't know why
[22:33] <bekks> SP33D: Install logrotate and configure it to rotate those logs.
[22:33] <pfifo> SP33D, check into logrotate
[22:33] <SP33D> nope thats not the problem
[22:33] <SP33D> syslogd takes 90% cpu
[22:33] <SP33D> so i watched what he does and i see he edits 3 files
[22:33] <SP33D> all the time
[22:33] <pfifo> SP33D, whats it logging?
[22:34] <SP33D> dont know when i for example tail kern.log i get
[22:34] <SP33D> Jun 16 00:32:29 s16809727 kernel: last message repeated 6945652 times
[22:34] <SP33D> Jun 16 00:33:30 s16809727 kernel: last message repeated 8825617 times
[22:34] <SP33D> repeated bla times
[22:34] <SP33D> don't know what that means
[22:34] <pfifo> what was the 'last message'
[22:35] <SP33D> Jun 16 00:29:19 s16809727 kernel: last message repeated 7025336 times
[22:35] <SP33D> Jun 16 00:29:19 s16809727 kernel: Kernel logging (proc) stopped.
[22:35] <SP33D> Jun 16 00:29:59 s16809727 kernel: imklog 5.8.6, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
[22:35] <SP33D> Jun 16 00:29:59 s16809727 kernel: Cannot read proc file system: 1 - Operation not permitted.
[22:35] <FloodBot1> SP33D: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:35] <pfifo> SP33D, is /proc mounted?
[22:36] <SP33D> the dir /mnt
[22:36] <SP33D> is empty
[22:36] <num7>  Hi i want to install icq on my linux machine, therefor i have to install the sim package, but this package is not the packagelist. So how can i install sim?
[22:37] <pfifo> whats in the /proc directory?
[22:37] <SP33D> cpu and other usefull stuff
[22:37] <SP33D> but some digit only files too
[22:38] <SP33D> http://pastebin.de/34857
[22:39] <pfifo> SP33D, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/523610
[22:40] <num7>  Hi i want to install icq on my linux machine, therefor i have to install the sim package, but this package is not the packagelist. So how can i install sim?
[22:41] <SP33D> pfifo: damn
[22:41] <SP33D> why is that page so useless
[22:41] <EDocToor> Is there a REMOTE PC, TEAMVIEWER, that lets someone control the mouse remotely ... so that Techsupport can be assisting remotely?
[22:41] <SP33D> can't there be only one line that fixes that
[22:42] <SP33D> but ok i simply wait till the next lts release and turn syslogd off
[22:42] <Hjax> is anyone having issues accessing all software source? i honestly can not connect to any of the mirrors
[22:42] <pfifo> SP33D, update your kernel
[22:42] <kostkon> EDocToor, teamviewer then?
[22:43] <EDocToor> kosthon.. these are windows softwares that allow free tech support.. is there such tool for Ubuntu
[22:43] <SP33D> pfifo can't
[22:43] <SP33D> its a server so how should i remote do that with ssh
[22:44] <kostkon> EDocToor, yeah, teamviewer. you can use it on windows, ubuntu, android, ios
[22:44] <SP33D> there is a high risk that nothing works after that
[22:44] <EDocToor> No way
[22:44] <kostkon> EDocToor, :P
[22:44] <pfifo> EDocToor, yes there is a program for that, built into ubuntu as well, i forget what its called though
[22:44] <kostkon> EDocToor, just visit the download page on their website
[22:44] <SP33D> u can use teamviewer.com
[22:44] <pfifo> SP33D, you cant update the kernel?
[22:44] <EDocToor> let me know if you figure it out..
[22:44] <SP33D> it works even for linux
[22:44] <SP33D> via ssh
[22:45] <SP33D> this is not a good idea
[22:45] <SP33D> i could upgrade form precise to raring
[22:46] <SP33D> but i don't know what happens there
[22:46] <pfifo> EDocToor, http://www.howtoforge.com/configure-remote-access-to-your-ubuntu-desktop
[22:47] <pfifo> SP33D, you think it will break your system and no longer allow you to ssh in? well then remove rsyslog
[22:47] <SP33D> just did
[22:47] <EDocToor> Hjax, what did you do... ????? have you made any changes to your Operating Files lately? Try Ping google.com
[22:47] <SP33D> it is ok i think since i only run virtualbox files on that server
[22:47] <SP33D> no other servers
[22:48] <EDocToor> Hjax, are you saying that you can not apt-get ?
[22:48] <Hjax> EDocToor: I did a fresh install (twice) in vmware player with both 10.10 and 12.04 and none of them can update their sources (or apt-get) however their internet connections work fine
[22:48] <Hjax> i can pop open firefox and browse the web
[22:50] <EDocToor> Hjax, what are you doing that failed.. what was the result.. I'll try it on my computer
[22:51] <Hjax> EDocToor: sudo apt-get update, and every single source 404s (ive tried both ubuntus servers and the kernel.org mirror)
[22:52] <pfifo> Hjax can you pastebin your sources.list
[22:52] <EDocToor> pfifo... exactly
[22:52] <EDocToor> Hjax, apt-get install pastebinit
[22:52] <EDocToor> oops
[22:52] <EDocToor> you cant to that
[22:52] <Shredded> Elementary OS > ubuntu
[22:52] <EDocToor> use a browser
[22:52] <Shredded> come at me
[22:54] <Shredded> elementary os master race
[22:56] <Shredded> do you even sudo
[22:57] <pfifo> no i just login as root, one and done
[22:57] <jalcine> logging in as root is beyond foolish
[22:57] <jalcine> but hey
[22:57] <OerHeks> i like the guest option in ubuntu
[22:57] <Shredded> ok guys real talk
[22:57] <pfifo> jalcine, i like to fix stuff
[22:58] <Shredded> i unintentionally lost my gnome-control-center
[22:58] <Hjax> pfifo: here is my sources.list http://pastebin.com/KAq5bwVh
[22:58] <Shredded> wat do
[22:58] <kostkon> Shredded, what ubu version?
[22:58] <Shredded> Elementary OS :(
[22:58] <pfifo> !maverick | Hjax
[22:58] <Shredded> latest version
[22:58] <kostkon> Shredded, not supported here im afraid
[22:58] <kostkon> !elementary | Shredded
[22:58] <kostkon> damn
[22:59] <Hjax> pfifo: doesnt explain the same problem for 12.04
[22:59] <pfifo> Hjax, your getting 404's because all the maverick repos are deleted
[22:59] <OerHeks> !eolupdate
[22:59] <Hjax> unless 12.04 is dead too
[22:59] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[22:59]  * Hjax hasnt played with ubuntu in over two years
[22:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Hjax: 12.04 ain't dead.
[23:00] <pfifo> Hjax, it would say 'precise' instead of 'maverick' if it was 12.04... unless you pasted the wrong sources.list
[23:00] <SonikkuAmerica> Hjax: You could do it the Debian way if you prefer, but there is risk.
[23:00] <Hjax> pfifo: i tried both, 12.04 first and then gave up and tried 10.10, both have the issue and i gave you the maverick sources list because i was just testing 10.10
[23:01] <kostkon> found it
[23:01] <kostkon> !derivatives | Shredded
[23:01] <noob_> hi all. i'm having some trouble on a fresh 13.04 install. i've installed a couple of days ago, and since then, only tried installing gnome 3.8 (gnome-shell, gnome-shell-extensions, and something like ubuntu-desktop-gnome, can't remember exactly), as well as gnome-session-fallback. all the installations resulted in an error. now, i can't even start gnome/gnome classic, but gnome fallback works (i'm running it right now). so, i just tri
[23:01] <noob_> ...exact same error: http://pastebin.com/TyaNE1xz
[23:01] <noob_> but i've tried, and vim seems to work correctly
[23:01] <Hjax> well, 12.04 was spitting out something about broken packages on fresh install
[23:01] <pfifo> Hjax, jump back to 12.04 and then we can start to trouble shoot... my guess is that your 12.04 sources.list was blank
[23:01] <noob_> any ideas what the problem is?
[23:02] <Shredded> well yeah but elementary pretty much is ubuntu modified
[23:02] <EDocToor> noob_ your in the wrong channel
[23:02] <kostkon> EDocToor, ?
[23:02] <xangua> Shredded: elementary os channel: #elementary
[23:02] <noob_> EDocToor: how am i in the wrong channel? is this #ubuntu ?
[23:02] <xangua> #elementary
[23:02] <EDocToor> I think it is #ubuntu+1
[23:03] <Shredded> nobody responds there :D
[23:03] <kostkon> EDocToor, 13.04 is the current version
[23:03] <noob_> what's #ubuntu+1 ?
[23:03] <Hjax> pfifo: the exact problem i was having with 12.04 was on first boot the update manager comes up and tries to update stuff, after i install those updates and reboot i cant install packages anymore
[23:03] <Shredded> cmon guys we are like brothers from a different mother
[23:03] <SonikkuAmerica> noob_: Are you running 13.10 (Saucy)?
[23:03] <kostkon> noob_, you are fine
[23:03] <noob_> oh, next version channel. yeah, as i've said, i'm running 13.04
[23:03] <EDocToor> noob_, your fine
[23:04] <EDocToor> my bad
[23:04] <pfifo> Hjax, did it update apt? you should have done the infamous 'apt-get -f' too
[23:04] <SonikkuAmerica> noob_: You're in the right place then. EDocToor: 13.04 is supported in this channel
[23:04] <Hjax> pfifo: i would imagine it updated apt
[23:04] <EDocToor> oops.. I feel bad.. sorry noob_
[23:04] <noob_> EDocToor: that's okay :)
[23:05] <Hjax> when i apt-get update on 12.04 i get "W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_source_Sources  Hash Sum mismatch"
[23:05] <Hjax> spammed into terminal
[23:06] <kostkon> Hjax, try again later. to be sure though, do an sudo apt-get clean to clear your cache and a sudo apt-get update
[23:06] <Anone> hey guys
[23:06] <pfifo> Hjax, well 12.04 wasnt giving a 404... which is a good start
[23:06] <Shredded> hi
[23:06] <Anone> I need help on Backtrack
[23:07] <Hjax> pfifo: yay
[23:07] <Hjax> pfifo: however i still cant install packages
[23:07] <xangua> Anone: this ain't backtrack channel :)
[23:07] <Anone> I cant get Slowloris DDoS
[23:07] <Anone> anyone know how?
[23:07] <Anone> my backtrack is run on Ubuntu
[23:08] <Hjax> Anone: we are not going to help you ddos, get out of here if you want to talk about that kind of thing
[23:08] <kostkon> !backtrack | Anone
[23:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Anone: Also, Backtrack is no longer supported or maintained. Use Kali Linux instead. Support is in #kali-linux .
[23:08] <Shredded> Anone
[23:08] <Shredded> i will help you son
[23:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Shredded: Gone
[23:08] <Shredded> listen carefully brah
[23:08] <kostkon> he/she's gone
[23:08] <Shredded> install Elementary OS
[23:09] <Shredded> damn
[23:10] <Shredded> you guys mad i have superior GUI
[23:10] <pfifo> backtrack was a pretty cool guy
[23:10] <Hjax> pfifo: when i try to apt-get install anything, this happens
[23:10] <Hjax> http://pastebin.com/aRdktyhC
[23:10] <pfifo> Hjax, run 'sudo apt-get -f' then try again
[23:10] <Shredded> Hjax trying to play minecraft ?
[23:11] <Hjax> Shredded: actually id like to build android
[23:11] <pfifo> minecraft hates openjdk
[23:11] <Shredded> then how do you play minecraft on linux
[23:11] <Shredded> is it like non free flash ?
[23:11] <pfifo> with oracle's java
[23:12] <Hjax> with the java package that i think comes with ubuntu restricted extras?
[23:12] <kostkon> Shredded, runs fine on my 12.04 with openjdk7
[23:12] <pfifo> Hjax, no restric still has openjdk
[23:12] <Shredded> i played a little minecraft while i had windows on a 5870
[23:12] <Hjax> pfifo: ah, didnt know that
[23:12] <THE_GFR|WORK> Pingu: what do I need to do?
[23:13] <Shredded> my gpu raised up to 70c
[23:13] <Hjax> pfifo: sudo apt-get -f, just displays the help file and informs me that apt has super cow powers
[23:13] <pfifo> Hjax, sorry, run 'sudo apt-get install -f' then try again
[23:14] <Hjax> pfifo: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[23:14] <noob_> so i'll try again but more concise: any installation i run on a fresh 13.04 system ends with the same error: http://pastebin.com/TyaNE1xz (i've tried, so far, gnome 3.8, gnome session fallback, and vim) - gnome 3.8 doesn't work (the system hangs), but the session fallback works, and so does vim, despite the error displayed.
[23:14] <Shredded> would you believe that linux has better audio drivers than windows
[23:14] <pfifo> Hjax, and now does it work?
[23:15] <Hjax> pfifo: nothing changed, still "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[23:15] <Shredded> how do i install a package ?
[23:16] <pfifo> Hjax, try 'apt-get install openjdk-6-jre'
[23:16] <Hjax> pfifo: "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[23:17] <pfifo> Hjax, pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy openjdk-6-jre'
[23:18] <Shredded> i get this when i run a game File or path name not found Error opening resource file Resource Loading Failure (or voluntary quit)!
[23:18] <Hjax> pfifo: http://pastebin.com/PJaCj61z
[23:19] <pfifo> Hjax, run 'apt-get clean' and then try once more
[23:19] <pfifo> Hjax, run 'apt-get clean', then 'apt-get update' and then try once more
[23:20] <mouseover> I have an old Xubuntu, and I would like to upgrade to Lubuntu 13.04. If I upgrade without formatting, what happens to (1) packages i've installed via apt-get (2) packages installed via dpkg (i.e. dpkg -i foo.deb) (3) packages installed from source
[23:21] <Hjax> pfifo: when i read though the output of "apt-get update" it appears that only multiverse is broken
[23:21] <Hjax> pfifo: all of my other sources appear to be updating fine, except multiverse
[23:21] <pfifo> Hjax, let me see that sources.list
[23:22] <SonikkuAmerica> !pastebin | Hjax
[23:22] <Hjax> SonikkuAmerica: is there a problem that i was using pastebin?
[23:23] <pfifo> thank you for the info SonikkuAmerica
[23:23] <Hjax> pfifo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769363/
[23:24] <SonikkuAmerica> Hjax: No, just a reminder. :)
[23:24] <SonikkuAmerica> Hjax: (Besides the Ubuntu Pastebin is much, much cleaner, as you know)
[23:25] <Hjax> SonikkuAmerica: i cant disagree with that
[23:25] <mouseover> Any ubuntu experts can help me with this...
[23:25] <mouseover> I have an old Xubuntu, and I would like to upgrade to Lubuntu 13.04. If I upgrade without formatting, what happens to (1) packages i've installed via apt-get? (2) packages installed via dpkg (i.e. dpkg -i foo.deb)? (3) packages installed from source ?
[23:26] <SonikkuAmerica> mouseover: I assume you're using a Live image to perform the release upgrade?
[23:26] <mouseover> Yes
[23:26] <bekks> mouseover: 1) will be updated if applicable 2) will not be updated and might break the update 3) will not be updated and still might break the update
[23:26] <mouseover> hmm...
[23:26] <SonikkuAmerica> mouseover: OK. All the packages you've installed actually disappear and get re-installed only if they exist in Lubuntu.
[23:27] <SonikkuAmerica> mouseover: If you use the "Upgrade from Ubuntu XX.XX to 13.04"
[23:27] <pfifo> Hjax, what did it say about multiverse being broken?
[23:27] <mouseover> I am superbly comfortable with the command line... is there a way I can take a "snapshot" of my settings and simply do a fresh install?
[23:28] <pfifo> !clone | mouseover
[23:28] <Hjax> pfifo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769374/
[23:29] <mouseover> bekks: As you rightly guessed, I dont want anything to break... so I dont mind doing a fresh install; however... I dont want to simply format what I currently have
[23:29] <pfifo> Hjax, http://askubuntu.com/questions/41605/trouble-downloading-updates-due-to-hash-sum-mismatch-error
[23:30] <mouseover> pfifo: thanks... would this work for packages install via dpkg -i  ?
[23:30] <pfifo> mouseover, yes
[23:30] <mouseover> pfifo: interesting, thanks...
[23:30] <francia> bal
[23:31] <francia> hola
[23:31] <francia> hay alguien ah
[23:31] <pfifo> mouseover, unless... you installed a .deb that isnt in the repos, then you would just have to download the deb
[23:32] <pfifo> mouseover, to prevent losss from #3 above, look into using the 'checkinstall' program
[23:32] <SonikkuAmerica> !es | francia
[23:33] <mouseover> When I upgrade, what happens to stuff under /etc , my symlinks in /usr/local , etc?
[23:34] <SonikkuAmerica> mouseover: They die, unless you're using [ do-release-upgrade ]
[23:34] <mouseover> SonikkuAmerica: thanks
[23:35] <Hjax> pfifo: thank you, that worked :D
[23:35] <SonikkuAmerica> !purelubuntu
[23:35] <SonikkuAmerica> mouseover: ^
[23:35] <pfifo> Hjax, great!
[23:35] <Hjax> pfifo: thank you, sorry for being annoying
[23:38] <francia> alguien ahi
[23:38] <ultraParadigm> Are there any window environments that still play well with Compiz?  sofar I have had issues this week with Unity, XFCE, and GNOME 3.8
[23:39] <pfifo> SonikkuAmerica, mouseover, im pretty sure it leaves stuff in /etc alone unless it has to make a change, in which case it makes a backup... that way you dont lose custom configs
[23:39] <SonikkuAmerica> ultraParadigm: MATE? Compiz is kind of on life support right now...
[23:39]  * ultraParadigm is sad
[23:39] <ultraParadigm> Man that sucks.  I love compiz
[23:40] <pfifo> ultraParadigm, I would attempt using openbox myself
[23:40] <ultraParadigm> Maybe I'll try the old Gnome classic first.  and if that doesn't work then openbox.
[23:40] <kostkon> ultraParadigm, 13.10 will be the last release with compiz as its compositor
[23:41] <ultraParadigm> and if that doesn't work I'll just cry tears of mourning
[23:41] <ultraParadigm> Unity doesn't use Compiz anymore does it?
[23:41] <pfifo> tars of mourning fix everything
[23:41] <kostkon> ultraParadigm, it does
[23:41] <ultraParadigm> Compiz + Unity =  too slow
[23:41] <SonikkuAmerica> pfifo: Tars? Umm... today we use tarBALLS
[23:42] <ultraParadigm> Yeah I remember now, I had compiz with unity, it was just really slow
[23:43] <ultraParadigm> Right now I have compiz with Gnome 3.1 minus gnome-shell, and it's paradise, other than crashing out everything I change something in any program
[23:44] <SonikkuAmerica> !GNOME | ultraParadigm: Have you tried GNOME Shell itself?
[23:44] <SonikkuAmerica> NO !! WRONG FACTOID!
[23:44] <SonikkuAmerica> !gnome-shell
[23:45] <pfifo> !gnome3
[23:50] <SonikkuAmerica> pfifo: thx for the bailout... these factoids need a serious rewrite.
[23:53] <cccman> Gentlemen, Why does Ubuntu boot into a initfs prompt and will not boot anytime you have to crash or it crashes
[23:55] <pfifo> cccman, to give you an opportunity to fix whats wrong
[23:56] <EDocToor> cccman, when that happened to me... ti also had an error message.. did you get an error message
[23:59] <FOAD> Hi, how do I automatically add selected text to the clipboard?