[06:26] <joe> I just installed UbuntuStudio. There are odd things going on with menus and shadows
[06:26] <joe> Where a shadow should be, there is a black box....
[06:26] <joe> Any clue as to what is wrong>
[06:26] <joe> ?
[06:27] <joe> joe@joe-HP-d220-MT-DW990A:~$ sudo lshw -c video|grep driver
[06:27] <joe>        configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
[06:28] <Unit193> That'd be why.
[06:29] <Unit193> joe: Yep, driver=i915 would be why.  What card do you have?
[06:33] <joe> On board p4 motherboard
[06:33] <joe> 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device
[06:34] <joe> the shadows render fine from windows. It is just menus having the problem
[06:34] <joe> and the alt-tab window
[06:34] <Unit193> What's your bitdepth?
[06:35] <joe> width: 32 bits
[06:35] <Unit193> Anywho, there's an update for mesa, try installing updates and see if it fixes.  I have that card, expect problems in the future.
[06:35] <joe> I have an old nvidia i can throw in....
[06:36] <joe> This is for a friend for audio recording.
[06:36] <Unit193> xdpyinfo | grep root
[06:36] <joe> Frankenstein PC w/ a creative live soundcard. Heh
[06:36] <joe>  root window id:    0x72
[06:36] <joe>   depth of root window:    15 planes
[07:45] <jeevanus> hai, in my file manager i don't find any for searching files, where can i find it?
[08:06] <jeevanus> there?
[10:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> Hullo, don't suppose anyone here can suggest a simple av editor for ubuntu? I've got a screencapture I intend to upload to youtube, but I need to clip a section from the beginning, middle, and end, and blur some parts out (logins). I've tried lives and when I clip the portions it only deletes video, leaving the audio out of sync with the video. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
[10:15] <zequence> ntzrmtthihu777: try openshot
[10:16] <zequence> it even has youtube uploading built-in
[10:16] <ntzrmtthihu777> zequence: heh, its kicking my butt. I have not a clue as to using it XD
[10:17] <zequence> ntzrmtthihu777: First, import the material. Then, move it to the "sequencer" (don't know the right term). To resize a clip, use the tool for it
[10:18] <zequence> the "resize tool"
[10:18] <zequence> you can add the same clip multiple times
[10:18] <zequence> onto differerent channels
[10:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> I think this could be done with mplayer or the like, but I'm not sure about the syntax/options to use (personally I'm a bit of a terminal geek, heck I recorded this with a python script XD)
[10:19] <zequence> openshot is really easy
[10:19] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh, then I must be dumb XD
[10:19] <zequence> plus you have all the youtube formats listed
[10:20] <zequence> blurring stuff, I don't know if you can do in openshot though
[10:20] <zequence> you'd need to use something like kdenlive
[10:20] <ntzrmtthihu777> I'm not too worried about the youtube format, I've used this exact format for 5 previous ytube uploads. I'm more worried abut clipping cruft from the ends of the vid :P
[10:21] <ntzrmtthihu777> kdenlive, does that depend on kde runtime as the name suggests?
[10:21] <zequence> some, yes
[10:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> blech, I rather wished I did not have to drag that into my system, lol (xubuntu). Oh well, I'll give it a shot :P
[10:23] <zequence> it's preinstalled on later Ubuntu Studio releases
[10:24] <zequence> much because it seems to be regarded the best video editor on Ubuntu
[10:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> izzat so.
[10:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> sigh, so many packages =_=
[10:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> so much crap with nothing to do with video editing *rage* I don't need another icon theme XD
[10:27] <zequence> icon theme?
[10:28] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, oxigen-icon-theme or sommat
[10:28] <smartboyhw> Yeah, that's KDE's icon theme…
[10:28] <zequence> ah, I guess they use some of those icons for the applications
[10:29] <zequence> application*
[10:29] <zequence> the only way I know how to blur part of the screen on openshot would be to turn a video into png images, and edit them one by one
[10:30] <zequence> it's possible to use a sequence of images just as if it was a single clip
[10:30] <ntzrmtthihu777> it really irks me when people dev stuff depending on a certain de/wm unless it deals directly with said de. like ubuntu-tweak, really nice tool but it depends on unity, when quite alot of its features are just as nice for other des
[10:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> geeze, where is the import tool?
[10:33] <zequence> I'm not a video editor myself. I've just used openshot a couple of times to do simple videos. Never used kdenlive so far
[10:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> alright, I found it. man this is a pita XD
[10:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> yay, avconv to the rescue :P
[10:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> hmm. perhaps I should re-record, I did make a few mistakes in the process...
[10:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> yeah, I'ma do it again, lol. do it alot smoother this time, I hope :P
[10:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> thanks all, I shall return have I any issues :P
[16:21] <contrapunctus> Can someone please help me enable my trackpad under UbuntuStudio 12.04, and also make the key that enables/disables it work? :(
[16:28] <OvenWerks> contrapunctus: not sure
[16:28] <OvenWerks> what have you tried?
[16:29] <OvenWerks> Have you tried plugging a mouse in at all?
[16:29] <contrapunctus> OvenWerks - I've been using a wireless mouse so far but I also need my touchpad working
[16:29] <OvenWerks> At least we know that much works.
[16:29] <contrapunctus> I've tried searching around and reading the Ubuntu wiki but not sure what to sue
[16:29] <contrapunctus> *use
[16:30] <OvenWerks> It should show up like a mouse. I am assuming a built in touch pad?
[16:30] <contrapunctus> OvenWerks - there's more, I could enable/disable it with it's key on Mint 12, but that key never worked with UbuntuStudio 12.04, somehow
[16:31] <contrapunctus> Earlier I'd turn the touchpad on/off in Mint 12 and it'd stay on in UbuntuStudio, but I disabled it and later had to remove the Mint install, so now it won't turn on at all :\
[16:31] <OvenWerks> Let me go upstairs, this machine is running kde right now...
[16:32] <contrapunctus> :)
[16:34] <OvenWerks> have you played with the setting menu at all? There is a mouse and touch pad part.
[16:35] <OvenWerks> I don't remember if that is in the settings manager or a separate settings menu item
[16:35] <OvenWerks> This is ubuntustudio 13.10 alpha :P
[16:37] <OvenWerks> I guess I should first ask if the touchpad shows up in device contrapunctus
[16:37] <contrapunctus> OvenWerks - settings manager -> mouse and touchpad. The devices tab is completely grayed out :\
[16:38] <contrapunctus> *everything in the devices tab
[16:41] <contrapunctus> OvenWerks - ?
[16:41] <OvenWerks> on the phone
[16:52] <OvenWerks> contrapunctus: sorry about that. Gig on Monday.
[16:52] <contrapunctus> Sure. Wow. :)
[16:53] <OvenWerks> What that means is that there is only one device that it sees probably your mouse.
[16:53] <OvenWerks> So it is turned off in HW
[16:53] <contrapunctus> o.O
[16:54] <contrapunctus> How do I find out if it is, and, if so, what should I do to enable it?
[16:54] <OvenWerks> I am not sure. TBH
[16:55] <contrapunctus> :O
[16:55] <contrapunctus> T.T
[16:56] <contrapunctus> OvenWerks - Your best guess?
[16:57] <OvenWerks> do you know what kind of touchpad you have?
[16:57] <OvenWerks> is it a synaptics?
[16:58] <contrapunctus> As far as I can remember, yeah.
[16:59] <OvenWerks> synclient TouchpadOff=0
[16:59] <OvenWerks> Does that do anything?
[17:00] <contrapunctus> No
[17:00] <OvenWerks> no errors?
[17:01] <contrapunctus> None o.o
[17:02] <OvenWerks> does lsusb show your touchpad?
[17:04] <OvenWerks> doesn't here...  wonder what kind of interface it should be...
[17:04] <wip> is there such thing as midi priority?
[17:05] <OvenWerks> wip I need more info as to what you mean
[17:05] <contrapunctus> OvenWerks - no, it doesn't o.o
[17:05] <wip> i am experiencing some latency in the midi
[17:06] <wip> in jack you can set the priority in security/limit.conf and the qjackctl settings
[17:06] <OvenWerks> Are you using jack midi wip?
[17:06] <wip> i was asking if there's an equivalent for midi
[17:06] <wip> OvenWerks, both jack midi and a2j
[17:07] <OvenWerks> contrapunctus: ya it doesn't show with lspci either
[17:11] <contrapunctus> OvenWerks - There was some other command for this. Try xinput list.
[17:12] <OvenWerks> SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad              id=12[slave  pointer  (2)]
[17:12] <OvenWerks> Ya that would be it
[17:13] <OvenWerks> wip are you doing all yoour connections on the jack side?
[17:13] <OvenWerks> contrapunctus: it sounds like you are reading the same web pages I am :)
[17:14] <contrapunctus> lol, I tried this earlier
[17:14] <contrapunctus> But what solves this?
[17:14] <contrapunctus> none of the solutions on the pages I went through seemed applicable
[17:15] <wip> OvenWerks, using gladish
[17:15] <contrapunctus> I really need this working, it's causing productivity hits.
[17:15] <wip> some a2j (no choice) other jack midi
[17:16] <OvenWerks> a2j in the jack connections though.
[17:19] <OvenWerks> contrapunctus: lsmod shows psmouse as the module  use (mouse unplugged just touchpad)
[17:20] <OvenWerks> contrapunctus: was this: http://resalxh.wordpress.com/2012/09/18/ubuntu-12-04-lts-x64-the-next-step-getting-touchpad-working/
[17:21] <OvenWerks> one of the pages you looked at?
[17:21] <contrapunctus> same here in the same situation.
[17:21] <contrapunctus> No
[17:21] <contrapunctus> Lemme see
[17:24] <OvenWerks> wip which program are you using with your midi?
[17:25]  * OvenWerks is going to feed son
[17:31] <zequence> wip: When you say latency, what do you mean? And which application is that?
[17:31] <zequence> wip: If you're working with pd, you'll need to set pd latency low as well
[17:32] <wip> well yes it is pd, but i have started another instance of it with only midi osc
[17:32] <zequence> make sure to set audio buffer size low
[17:32] <wip> pd is using -rt -jack -alsamidi
[17:33] <wip> zequence, the audio buf is set automatically (using jack no)?
[17:33] <zequence> the audio latency, and the internal control latency are not the same thing
[17:33] <zequence> when using jack, the audio buf will not affect jack, but it will affect internal control latency
[17:34] <zequence> in other words, jack sets the latency for hot signals, while pd sets the latency for cold signals
[17:34] <wip> in jack my latency is super low (for realtime fx) around 5ms
[17:34] <zequence> won't make a difference for puredata control signals though
[17:35] <wip> i start pd -rt -jack and the latency is very low (that's great)
[17:35] <wip> how to lower the control signal latency?
[17:35] <zequence> as I said, you need to set the puredata audio buffer low as well
[17:35] <zequence> something like 5-10 ms should do
[17:35] <wip> -audiobuf ?
[17:36] <zequence> yes
[17:36] <zequence> no, wait
[17:36] <zequence> let me check
[17:36] <wip> i've been using pd for decade, but never had to set this
[17:36] <zequence> yes, audiobug
[17:36] <zequence> audiobuf*
[17:37] <wip> will try, but i was certain that it was the same as jack no matter what you put here
[17:37] <wip> so something like pd -rt -jack -audiobuf 128?
[17:37] <zequence> audiobuf takes ms as argument
[17:37] <wip> cool
[17:37] <zequence> so, something between 5-10 would do
[17:42] <Unit193> Hrm, Joe's issues would be fixed if he switched to UXA.
[19:17] <contrapunctus> OvenWerks, you there?
[19:17] <OvenWerks> Ya, how it goes? touchpad working yet?
[19:17] <contrapunctus> Yeah x_x
[19:18] <OvenWerks> Great!
[19:18] <OvenWerks> I wish I could claim I did something...
[19:18] <contrapunctus> Booted to another UbuntuStudio 12.04 partition, tried there. No go.
[19:18] <contrapunctus> Booted into my untouched-since-months Windows 7 partition, used the key to turn it on.
[19:18] <contrapunctus> Done. :(
[19:19] <contrapunctus> Is a way to see what input a keyboard is sending? :S
[19:19] <OvenWerks> Have you tried a newer live session from an ISO on a USB stick?
[19:19] <contrapunctus> It might give me a clue as to what the hell is up with the enable/disable key.
[19:19] <contrapunctus> Afraid I haven't.
[19:19] <contrapunctus> I could try though.
[19:20] <contrapunctus> brb one sec
[19:25] <OvenWerks> did that work as well?
[19:26] <contrapunctus> OvenWerks - Live session of 12.04, no good. The touchpad works, but the key to enable/disable it doesn't.
[19:26] <contrapunctus> Is there something that can test keyboard input? o.o
[19:26] <OvenWerks> I meant something newer like 13.10 ISO :) no matter.
[19:26] <OvenWerks> I don't know.
[19:26] <contrapunctus> :\
[19:27] <contrapunctus> But if it worked in Mint 12 :\
[19:27] <contrapunctus> y ubuntu y
[19:27] <OvenWerks> I am not sure which version mint 12 is ubuntu wise.
[19:28] <OvenWerks> mint 13 is based on r 13.04
[19:28] <contrapunctus> It's based on something older than 12.04, I'm sure.
[19:28] <contrapunctus> Oneric (sp?) I think.
[19:28] <OvenWerks> 11.10?
[19:28] <contrapunctus> Yeah, probably.
[19:29] <OvenWerks> That may have still been a 2.6 kernel.
[19:29] <contrapunctus> o.O
[19:29] <contrapunctus> So which kernel is 12.04?
[19:29] <OvenWerks> 3.2? I think...
[19:30] <contrapunctus> I see...
[19:30] <OvenWerks> My server is is 3.2.0
[19:30] <contrapunctus> So the kernel upgrade broke it? o.o
[19:30] <OvenWerks> Could be. That would be my guess
[19:31] <OvenWerks> 13.04 was 3.8 and now the generic is 3.9
[19:31] <OvenWerks> Ours is still 3.8, but by release may be 3.10
[19:32] <contrapunctus> #ubuntu seems to have taken it to their heart to not reply to me, lol
[19:33] <OvenWerks> There is proably no one there who knows
[19:34] <contrapunctus> Rather unusual.
[19:35] <contrapunctus> lmao
[19:35] <OvenWerks> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_Keyboard_Keys_in_Xorg
[19:35] <OvenWerks> Has some stuff on keyboards
[19:36] <contrapunctus> OvenWerks - xev. Now you know too ;)
[19:37] <OvenWerks> But that would depend on x knowing about the HW/SW switch to begin with.
[19:37] <OvenWerks> Which is kernel.
[19:38] <contrapunctus> :(
[19:38] <OvenWerks> When I try to look at the file they suggest I get "no such file" :P
[19:39] <contrapunctus> /usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h ?
[19:40] <contrapunctus> I get a freaking big list o.o
[19:40] <OvenWerks> Probably need one of the X11-dev packages installed
[19:40] <OvenWerks> I'm back on KDE so mine is different.
[19:42] <contrapunctus> So this kind of stuff
[19:42] <contrapunctus> Is there a specialty channel for it? o.o
[19:42] <OvenWerks> This the first time I have dealt with this.
[19:43] <contrapunctus> :S
[19:43] <OvenWerks> Anything that hasn't worked for me, I noramlly google till I find it.
[19:43] <OvenWerks> Normall the computer model and problem
[19:44] <OvenWerks> Anyway, I need to do some things... non-computer related for a bit.
[19:44] <contrapunctus> Okay
[19:45] <contrapunctus> Thank you for your time, OvenWerks ^^
[19:45] <OvenWerks> !touchpad
[19:47] <contrapunctus> lul
[19:48] <contrapunctus> Already crossed it thrice, but thanks ;)
[19:48] <OvenWerks> Looks old...