[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:08] <penguin42> Hey BK
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Hi penguin42
[13:11] <BluesKaj> my dependency problems seem to boil down to libical1 , but it has no installation candidate
[13:11] <penguin42> hmm, I seem to have one - from saucy-proposed
[13:13] <BluesKaj> I've got proposed commented out , since I was advised the last time I lost X ...wonder if I should enable it
[13:14] <penguin42> I guess you've probably got a package that came from proposed that depends on it?
[13:15] <BluesKaj> yeah , could be
[13:15] <penguin42> when disabling a repo I think you need to remove all the packages that came from it - not sure if I know a way to do it though
[13:15] <BluesKaj> desktop is broken , so I suppose I could try it
[13:16] <BluesKaj> ok ,bbiab
[14:06] <lordievader> Good afternoon.
[14:08] <penguin42> hi
[14:08] <lordievader> Hey penguin42, how are you?
[14:08] <penguin42> good
[14:09] <lordievader> :)
[14:19]  * penguin42 is trying openSuse in a u+1 kvm and has slight graphics corruption; heck knows where to start reporting that
[14:35] <BluesKaj> ok penguin42 , back on 13.10 , but i'm in a quandary about the proposed repos ...guess now that I'm committed to their packages I have to live with my decision
[14:36] <penguin42> yeh or somehow pull every one out
[14:36] <BluesKaj> goes against the advice from the kubuntu-devel guys tho
[14:37] <penguin42> well don't go against them - they can make your machine do very odd things if you misbehave :-)
[14:38] <BluesKaj> but how ? I don't know of any method to pull packages installed from a particular deb
[14:39] <BluesKaj> the guys at devel are good people :)
[14:39] <penguin42> well, there is a ppa-purge to remove stuff from a ppa
[14:41] <BluesKaj> proposed isn't classified as appa
[14:41] <penguin42> yeh I know, I just mean it's a similar problem
[14:45] <BluesKaj> well . I'll try to be less aggressive with dist-upgrades , because I ran that deb enabled for quite a while before my pc mucked up
[14:46] <BluesKaj> unknowing that it could cause me problems
[14:56] <penguin42> yeh you've just got to be a bit careful with dist-upgrade to check it's not removing loads of stuff
[14:57] <BluesKaj> yeah I gambled and lost , but it's fixed now
[15:21] <BluesKaj> penguin42, I setup a preferences file for proposed as suggested here , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed
[15:21] <BluesKaj> thanks to tsimpson
[15:22] <penguin42> nice
[15:24] <BluesKaj> yeah , i ran an update/upgrade , no errors
[15:26] <penguin42> hmm
[21:01] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[21:01] <ShapeShifter499> now with all this NSA stuff I'd like to use something ran locally like VNC instead of teamviewer or splashtop on linux. However vnc is slow and I have yet to find a faster alternative that would allow remote control access from a iPhone or Android device. Any ideas?
[21:02] <IdleOne> !crossposting
[21:05] <ShapeShifter499> IdleOne, oops sorry about that