[00:00] <cccman> no
[00:00] <cccman> Windows still boots when you crash it. Ubuntu sucks i guess
[00:00] <pfifo> FOAD, thats a feature of certian programs, i dont think theres a way to enable it system wide
[00:00] <EDocToor> cccman.. I feel your pain.. but Windows suck if you ask me
[00:01] <pfifo> cccman, ohh, type 'exit' at that prompt to continue the boot process
[00:01] <cccman> if I use FAT32 filesystem will Ubuntu be more crash recovery stable?
[00:01] <pfifo> cccman, no, fat32 doesnt work for linux
[00:01] <FOAD> pfifo.  Okay.  Sucks.
[00:02] <cccman> you could convert the system partition using Gparted?
[00:02] <exad> fat32 doesn't work for linux....?
[00:02] <cccman> ntfs might
[00:02] <cccman> i will try it and see what happens
[00:02] <pfifo> exad, cccman, no fat32 doesnt have file permissions
[00:03] <cccman> what about ntfs
[00:03] <pfifo> cccman, no, use ext2 its the quickest to repair and the most stable
[00:04] <cccman> i have crashed ubunt 3 times trying to get my GTX280 to work, and got initfs prompts each time, had to reinstall
[00:04] <exad> Er.. then how come Ubuntu runs live fine on a usb stick partitoned as fat32? :/
[00:04] <EDocToor> cccman, why would you not use what Ubuntu uses
[00:04] <cccman> becasue it sucks
[00:04] <cccman> ext4 sucks
[00:04] <pfifo> exad, thanks to a filesystem called unionfs (or aufs i think its called now)
[00:04] <cccman> pull the plug out of your power supply right now and try to reboot
[00:05] <exad> Ah I see
[00:05] <bekks> exad: because on that fat32 you will only find everything needed to boot ubuntu from an image, not an entire plain ubuntu installation.
[00:05] <exad> I see
[00:06] <cccman> what happens is the inode needs cleared in debugfs
[00:06] <cccman> clri <8>
[00:06] <cccman> not sure what it does though
[00:09] <pfifo> cccman, you just need to check your filesystem, run 'e2fsck -fy'
[00:10] <cccman> i will try it but still sucks that you have to boot into a live cd
[00:11] <pfifo> cccman, if your having todo it all the time something is wrong
[00:11] <pfifo> ex, failing harddrive
[00:14] <syntroPi> for ext3/4 systemstart fs check do something like "sudo touch /forcefsck "
[00:15] <syntroPi> and reboot
[00:15] <NaN123> Hi
[00:17] <pfifo> ello
[00:18] <pfifo> cccman, on the plus side, youll never have to defrag :D
[00:19] <indieross> windows sees 1GB as 1024MB how does ubuntu see a GB
[00:19] <indieross> ?
[00:19] <indieross> 1000 or 1024?
[00:20] <SonikkuAmerica> indieross: It reads in GiB - 1 GiB = 1000 MiB
[00:20] <indieross> cool thanks
[00:23] <HelloWorld321> if the system is powered down during a crontab event, will it do the event when you turn the system back on?
[00:23] <HelloWorld321> ... like if you have a @weekly event, but the system is turned off all weekend ... will it do it on monday when you turn it back on?
[00:24] <SonikkuAmerica> !cron
[00:32] <pfifo> HelloWorld321, no
[00:32] <greenhornlinux> hey everyone quick question. I created a folder in my home directory call bin. I added the path to my .bashrc for tab auto complete for my scripts. PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin. This work fine for the terminal but when I hit alt+f2 to run one of my scripts from this folder, it doesn't find it. Do I need to put this path somewhere else too?
[00:33] <fuzzy> I have a question about changing the ownership of an entire drive. Is that possible?
[00:33] <yeats> HelloWorld321: read about anacron
[00:34] <pfifo> greenhornlinux, did you restart?
[00:34] <fuzzy> anacron? Thanks!
[00:34] <greenhornlinux> pfifo: yes
[00:34] <yeats> fuzzy: yes - 'chown -R' will recursively change ownership
[00:35] <pfifo> greenhornlinux, n/m that wont work anyway, you need to get your path setup prior to the window manager starting, use rc.local
[00:35] <fuzzy> Awesome! I really appreciate the help. I have an external drive from another linux box but Ubuntu can't access the files due to not being the owner.
[00:37] <fuzzy> Have a great day everybody!
[00:37] <greenhornlinux> pfifo: Ah, okay. Where is that file? Is it in my home directory or in one of my / directories?
[00:38] <pfifo> greenhornlinux, /etc/rc.local
[00:38] <greenhornlinux> pfifo: thanks. I will try that now.
[00:42] <pfifo> http://ubottu.com/y/rn points to the wrong release notes
[00:42] <SonikkuAmerica> pfifo: Eek! You're right! Where's the webmaster?
[00:46] <MrKB> hello all
[00:46] <MrKB> I'm havng an issue with installing/running live environment of Ubuntu 13.04
[00:46] <MrKB> I was wondering what info someone needed to help me out :)
[00:46]  * MrKB is new to Linux
[00:46] <SonikkuAmerica> !details | MrKB
[00:47] <elky> the unity sidebar thing won't retract even though it is set to do so in the settings.
[00:48] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: A few reboots didn't help the system config any, I suppose?
[00:48] <summit> is it possible to get Skype on 13.04? the website only shows outdated and a multiarch
[00:48] <MrKB> I'm working off of a USB with 13.04 on it. Want to install it on this desktop but it won't connect to my home's (open) AP for some reason but it IS however connecting to my phone's (also open) AP
[00:48] <MrKB> so I'm going to go for the try it option
[00:48] <pfifo> summit, have you tried the outdated package?
[00:48] <MrKB> so I can go in the terminal and look up some info on my USB WiFi antenna
[00:48] <MrKB> to see what's up
[00:48] <syntroPi> summit, its in the partner repos
[00:49] <MrKB> but I get errors when I boot into the live enviroment
[00:49] <summit> pfifo: yes, i've tried the multiarch but it won'
[00:49] <MrKB> and then...just a blank desktop :-\
[00:49] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: Can you !pastebin the output of [ lspci ]? (Type in the terminal: lspci)
[00:49] <summit> won''t fully install with Software center
[00:49] <MrKB> that's what I was gonna do on the live environment SonikkuAmerica
[00:49] <MrKB> can I do that from the fancy boot menu?
[00:49] <syntroPi> summit why?
[00:50] <summit> syntroPi: not sure, i click Install it goes to 100% and just continues to show the install label, but no skype on the machine
[00:50] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: You can do that by hitting Ctrl+Alt+F1, installing pastebinit (using [ sudo apt-get install pastebinit ]), then running [ lspci | pastebinit ] and typing the URL word-for-word in your chat windows.
[00:50] <SonikkuAmerica> *window
[00:51] <syntroPi> summit, hmm maybe try installing it with a terminal "sudo apt-get install skype" and see what errors you get then
[00:51] <summit> syntroPi: odd; it actually installed! it was just in another location than i assumed it would be
[00:51] <syntroPi> ok
[00:51] <MrKB> ok thanks solid_liq
[00:51] <MrKB> SonikkuAmerica*
[00:51] <summit> syntroPi: thanks for the assistance tho!
[00:52] <elky> SonikkuAmerica, i would like a solution that doesn involve rebooting
[00:52] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: What have you tried so far?
[00:53] <elky> SonikkuAmerica, disabling the retract and reenabling the retract
[00:53] <MrKB> SonikkuAmerica: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769519/
[00:53] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: Have you tried minimizing everything and clicking on the bare desktop?
[00:54]  * MrKB doesn't see his usb wifi antenna mentioned in the pastebin
[00:54] <MrKB> (even though Ubuntu clearly sees it since it's using it for internet access through my phone's AP atm)
[00:54] <pfifo> MrKB, use lsusb instead of lspci
[00:55] <MrKB> ok, one moment
[00:55] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: Remember to pipe it through pastebinit!
[00:55] <MrKB> yes
[00:55] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769523
[00:55] <MrKB> Edimax EW-7811Un, that looks about right
[00:56] <MrKB> and my mouse of course :)
[00:56] <Guest99297> my ubuntu 13.04 suddenly started to freez on windows minimize/close. Sometimes Alt+Ctrl combination unfreeze it bu somethimes dont. I have dell 5520 with ati 7670 and inetl hd 4000 graphic. System info shows  taht intel gpu  is used but in additional drivers it shows that radeon driver is intalled. Any idea if ati or intel drivers are causing trouble or maybe kernel? p.s. i used kde(kubuntu) and never had problems only in unity and i
[00:57] <MrKB> so what's the next step? googling my wifi antenna to see if there's known issues that would prevent it from connecting to my home AP
[00:57] <MrKB> (even though it connects to the one on my phone just fine)
[00:57] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: Is your access point encrypted? If so, with what?
[00:57] <MrKB> no, it's open
[00:57] <MrKB> both the phone and the home
[00:57] <MrKB> for troubleshooting of course. normally they're both WPA2-Personal
[00:58] <MrKB> that's why it's so strange
[00:58] <MrKB> does anyone know what the stock Android AP software does? is it g? n?
[00:58] <MrKB> home AP is g, maybe the phone one is n
[00:58] <MrKB> maybe the Linux drivers for my wifi antenna don't like g XD
[00:58] <MrKB> even though it can see it :-\
[00:59] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: Usually it's b/g/n ; what device is your Android (Linux :))-powered thing?
[00:59] <elky> SonikkuAmerica, is that actually something that has worked in the past?
[00:59] <MrKB> Nexus 4, stock
[00:59] <MrKB> stock everyting, rom, kernel, etc
[00:59] <MrKB> but it's rooted, if that matters
[00:59] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: Yeah; sometimes mine would get stuck (I have a 1024x768 monitor, you'd see why) and I'd have to click off the Unity dash or the menu bar to hide the sidebar
[01:00] <elky> no, i don't see why
[01:01] <MrKB> is there any way to hide joins/parts/quits on a per-channel basis in mIRC?
[01:01] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: (Screen real estate)
[01:01] <elky> how does that make the unity bar get stuck out?
[01:02] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: Sometimes it thinks for no reason that it should still be active after a user has finished interacting with it... natural occurrence... there was a bug about this in Natty but that was fixed.
[01:03] <SonikkuAmerica> !bug 2 (unrelated)
[01:04] <MrKB> [08:59:00 PM] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: Usually it's b/g/n ; what device is your Android (Linux :))-powered thing? <-- any way to know which one it's using atm? maybe through Ubuntu?
[01:04] <elky> SonikkuAmerica, it achieved nothing.
[01:04] <the_drow> Hi, how do I run a python script on all available python versions?
[01:04] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: OK... hmm...
[01:07] <MrKB> how do I go back to the fancy boot menu from the terminal screen
[01:07] <Dr_willis> MrKB,  You mean the GRUB menu? or the LOGIN screen to X?
[01:07]  * MrKB wants to poke around to see if he can find a way for Ubuntu to tell him what his AP is (b/g/n)
[01:07] <MrKB> I'm assuming GRUB
[01:07] <MrKB> the screen that has two choices, live or install
[01:07] <soussou> I need some help
[01:07]  * MrKB is running from USB
[01:07] <Dr_willis> MrKB,  reboot the the pc.
[01:07] <MrKB> oh
[01:07] <MrKB> boo :(
[01:07] <soussou> I have a microcontroller connected to mu ubuntu machine
[01:07] <Dr_willis> MrKB,  and thats NOT grub.
[01:07] <MrKB> what is it then
[01:08] <soussou> I can ssh to the microcontroller
[01:08] <Dr_willis> part of the Login/boot sequence the live cd uses.
[01:08] <MrKB> Oh ok
[01:08] <MrKB> no name for it, Dr_willis?
[01:08] <MrKB> Henceforth it shall be known as fancy boot menu
[01:08] <soussou> and I can issue a command like: echo "5" > /dev/ttyACM0
[01:08] <soussou> It works if I am root
[01:08] <Dr_willis> Never n3eede a name for it.. it just asks after the system is booted.. most people want to disable it and have it default to Live-desktop from what ive seen in here
[01:08] <elky> SonikkuAmerica, nevermind now. i rebooted
[01:09] <SuperLag> I wish I could get the touchpad on my ThinkPad to work like the Magic Trackpad gestures does on my Mac. Two-finger swipe left/right is back/forward. Three-finger drag for highlight.
[01:09] <SonikkuAmerica> elky: And it works, I presume.
[01:09] <Dr_willis> MrKB,  if you want to install.. use the Install icon on the desktop
[01:09]  * MrKB is trying to install it, actually
[01:09] <MrKB> I can't get live to run
[01:09] <MrKB> it gives me to errors right away and then...blank desktop
[01:09] <soussou> but if I am a regular user, and I do : echo "5" > /dev/ttyACM0. I get the following error message "bash /dev/ttyACM0: device or resource busy"
[01:09] <MrKB> I was going to straight up install, but it can't connect to my home's (open) AP
[01:09] <elky> SonikkuAmerica, yes, which is beside the point. i knew it would when i'd restarted.
[01:09] <Dr_willis> You did verify the md5 of the download? How did you make the  live usb? MrKB ?
[01:09] <MrKB> but it CAN connect to my phone's (open as well) AP for some reason
[01:10] <soussou> Anybody knows how I can issue the same command as a regular user and get a response?
[01:10] <MrKB> Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.3.5
[01:10] <MrKB> did not check the md5, no
[01:10] <Dr_willis> You dont 'need' internet to install. but its handy.
[01:10] <MrKB> if I do a check inside uTorrent and it passes, does that count?
[01:10] <Dr_willis> I have a $10 Cheap works out of the Box., no hassles USB dongle i use on problem installs.
[01:10] <MrKB> yes I know. but I figured if it doesn't work now, probably won't work later either XD
[01:11] <Dr_willis> MrKB,   You may want to tell the channel exactly what its doing and not doing and what chipset your wifi is.
[01:11] <soussou> anybody knows what's happeneing?
[01:11] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769519/
[01:11] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769523/
[01:12] <varunendra> MrKB, torrent downloads are almost guaranteed for integrity if the torrent client reports the download to be finished.
[01:12] <MrKB> Ok good
[01:12] <MrKB> Let me do a re-check with the torrent
[01:12] <MrKB> yeah it passed
[01:12] <tones> Dr_Willis, if my win7 machine won't boot and startup repair won't work, and no win7 disk, is there a way to use ubuntu/linux to boot windows into safe mode a load drivers or repair startup?
[01:12] <MrKB> thanks varunendra
[01:12] <MrKB> so i don't think it's my iso Dr_willis
[01:12] <arepo> any one now how can a i solve the problem with .conf in xxxterm?
[01:14] <varunendra> MrKB, what is the problem you are having with the Live boot (came here late, so just to confirm..)
[01:14] <tones> SystemRescueCd booted from usb is the best idea I've come up with, but would it allow me to update Win7 drivers
[01:14] <Dr_willis> tones,  i recall ages ago a  "legal" way to download a windows 7 recovery iso. Saw it mentioned on Lifehacker. I downloaded them.. but never tried the,
[01:15] <tones> Dr_willis I don't have the product key
[01:15] <MrKB> varunendra - when I try to live boot it gives me two errors (actually it might just be the same one twice) and when I hit continue on both of them, I come up on a blank desktop
[01:15] <tones> it was on the pc sold to me
[01:15] <SonikkuAmerica> tones: What you CAN do is use GParted to shrink a little space and install GRUB to it.
[01:15] <MrKB> but I was mainly trying to do a lspci/lsusb from live boot so I can figure out my wifi problem
[01:15] <MrKB> which I did already thanks to SonikkuAmerica
[01:15] <Dr_willis> tones,  well this was a rescue thing I think that 'fixed' broken installs. i dont recall the details. since i never really used it. I just downloaded it and kept the iso on my 'recovery tools usb' ;)
[01:15] <MrKB> Now I need to figure out why the hell Ubuntu can connect to my phone's AP but not my ome AP
[01:15] <MrKB> home*
[01:15] <MrKB> even though they are both open atm
[01:15] <varunendra> Dr_willis, I think that 'legal' Win7 recovery ISO was offered by neosmart site, but they removed it later after some objection from MS.
[01:16] <tones> and once grub is installed, what would be the next step
[01:16] <Dr_willis> varunendra,  the one i saw was from digitalriver (perhaps?) where you get the actual Windows ISOS if you buy them I Think.. but this was a year+ ago.
[01:16] <SonikkuAmerica> tones: Reboot and check to see (a) whether it loads correctly and (b) if it does, if Windows is detected.
[01:16] <MaynardWaters> hello I am trying to create an raid array
[01:17] <Dr_willis> There are tools to show your windows product key from a window install i recall. I Think that linux-rescue live cd. had such a tool.
[01:17] <MaynardWaters> I do no see any md files in dev
[01:17] <TuxBlackEdo> hey
[01:17] <TuxBlackEdo> anyone here?
[01:17] <MrKB> varunendra - It just doesn't make any sense since it can see both APs. The only thing I can think of is that the Linux drivers for this usb wifi antenna dislike g lol. I'm assuming my phone's AP is n (I know my home's AP is g), but I wanted to confirm so I can continue on my quest
[01:17] <TuxBlackEdo> there are people here!
[01:17] <MaynardWaters> I get a message mdadm: no raid-devices specified
[01:17] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo, several thousand
[01:17] <MrKB> hello TuxBlackEdo
[01:18] <TuxBlackEdo> http://hothardware.com/Reviews/Samsung-ATIV-Smart-PC-500T-Windows-8-Tablet-Review/
[01:18] <SonikkuAmerica> TuxBlackEdo, Dr_willis: 1538
[01:18] <TuxBlackEdo> is this any good for ubuntu?
[01:18] <TuxBlackEdo> or!!
[01:18] <varunendra> MrKB, could you show us the error messages? Have you tried various advanced boot options? Especially "nomodeset" : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[01:18] <TuxBlackEdo> can anyone give me a good recommendation on a nicer newer tablet that works with ubtuntu?
[01:18] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  define  'works with ubuntu'
[01:18] <MrKB> I'm assuming you get to those advanced ones by pressing keys during the keyboard + little man boot sequence
[01:18] <TuxBlackEdo> I am looking for some nice new tablet that came out in the past year or so
[01:18] <MrKB> I couldn't get anything to appear during that time
[01:19] <tones> Dr_Willis, gonna try the lifehacker iso first, then grub...thanks
[01:19] <MrKB> i clicked and pressed on everything O_O
[01:19] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  The New Nexus7 will be the one to keep an eye on. Its due out soon.
[01:19]  * MrKB clicks on varunendra's link
[01:19] <MaynardWaters> got it need to specify --raid-devices=
[01:19] <varunendra> MrKB, the linux wireless drivers are usually happier with b or g (can have issues some very rare times with b/g mixed mode). And the driver you need (8192CU) can be funny sometimes.
[01:19] <adie> you knnow what fucking boggles the fuck out of me?
[01:20] <adie> someone was designing the notifications in ubuntu
[01:20] <TuxBlackEdo> Dr_willis, I want to buy something today
[01:20] <adie> and said "yeah, that's a good place for them"
[01:20] <IdleOne> !language | adie
[01:20] <Dr_willis> adie,  'why people feel the need to curse on irc?'
[01:20] <TuxBlackEdo> I also want to be able to use usb ports
[01:20] <adie> Dr_willis, because cursing is the spice of language
[01:20] <TuxBlackEdo> does the nexus 7 have usb ports?
[01:20] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  it can use a adaptor and if rooted (or running ubuntu) access usb devices
[01:21] <MrKB> varunendra - so what do you think might be the issue with it not connecting to my home's AP?
[01:21] <Dr_willis> Very few tablets have full sized usb these days. I got an Old toshiba thrive tablet with 2 FULL usb ports
[01:21] <tones> no wait, grub first to get the product key :)
[01:21] <MrKB> no TuxBlackEdo, just it's microUSB port
[01:21] <MrKB> which can do host mode, FYI
[01:21] <varunendra> MrKB, the options to modify boot parameters are on F6 key on the advanced boot meny. Usually acpi=off and nomodeset can help with system freezing issues.
[01:22] <MrKB> I can't get to advanced boot
[01:22] <TuxBlackEdo> Dr_willis, I'd prefer something with normal USB ports
[01:22] <MrKB> http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/_media/installation/live_cd_maverick1.png?cache=
[01:22] <MrKB> when I press any key during that, I get nothing
[01:22] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  good luck finding ANY tablets these days with those.
[01:22] <MrKB> TuxBlackEdo, look for a USB OTG cable and get a tablet that supports it
[01:22] <TuxBlackEdo> you'd be wrong
[01:22] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  and there are micro-full sized adaptors for like $4
[01:22] <MrKB> like Nexus 7
[01:22] <TuxBlackEdo> Dr_willis, a lot of the new tablets do have usb ports and run windows 8
[01:22] <Dr_willis> Nexus7 by default 'partially' supports it.
[01:22] <Domaldel> Howdy, anyone feel like giving a linux newbie a hand? =)
[01:23] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  you dident state the OS.. if you want a windows tablet - ask in #windows
[01:23] <pfifo> Hi Dr_willis
[01:23] <TuxBlackEdo> i want to buy a windows 8 tablet and install ubuntu (or any linux for that matter)
[01:23] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  i would not reccomend a windows tablet at all.
[01:23] <MrKB> he wants just _a_ tablet
[01:23] <varunendra> MrKB, during the splash screen? It may indicate that your keyboard is not even detected at that stage :(
[01:23] <MrKB> to put linux on it
[01:23] <TuxBlackEdo> no
[01:23] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  installing ubuntu on one =  most likely will NOT happen
[01:23] <TuxBlackEdo> I want a fast tablet
[01:23] <MrKB> yes varunendra
[01:23] <varunendra> Is it a USB keyboard?
[01:23] <MrKB> ps/2 keyboard
[01:23] <Dr_willis> Windows Tablets are very locked down - last i read about them
[01:23] <varunendra> :(
[01:23] <TuxBlackEdo> and windows 8 is such a clunky os that if I could install linux onto it, it would be very fast
[01:24]  * Domaldel raises a hand.
[01:24] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  asumeing it supported the hardware.
[01:24] <MrKB> just get an android tablet TuxBlackEdo
[01:24] <pfifo> !ask | Domaldel
[01:24] <TuxBlackEdo> also I want to be able to compile random linux tools on it
[01:24] <Domaldel> Well...
[01:24] <Dr_willis> TuxBlackEdo,  Biggest Hurdle will be getting Any linux on a Windows Tablet.
[01:24] <TuxBlackEdo> also i want at least the hardware graphics acceleration to be supported by ubuntu
[01:24] <MrKB> you can do some of that in Android TuxBlackEdo
[01:25] <Dr_willis> Nexus7 = takes like 20 min to put ubuntu on it from what ive read.
[01:25] <varunendra> MrKB, so you can reach the screen where it asks to either install or try, kb/mouse work there. But choosing either option you just get a blank screen?
[01:25] <Domaldel> Basically I'm trying to install linux with wubi, first time installation, I do manage to install it apparently, but whatever I do I don't seem to get the password I pick in wubi to work, so I just end up with the guest login, and I don't seem to have root access there.
[01:26] <Domaldel> The question would pretty much just be, what would you recommend doing from there? =)
[01:26] <MrKB> kb/mouse work on the fancy boot menu, yes. choosing live gets blank screen after two error messages. haven't gotten too far in install because I want to get my wifi working on it before installing.
[01:26] <Dr_willis> Domaldel,  id recommend using Virtualbox and forgeting wubi even exists.. if you cant partion the hd.
[01:27] <MrKB> varunendra - rebooted and pressed F6 during boot sequence
[01:27] <MrKB> success O_O
[01:27]  * Domaldel quirks his left eyebrow slightly.
[01:27] <MrKB> but pressing random keys didn't work before
[01:27] <MrKB> just F6
[01:27]  * MrKB thinks docs need to be updated
[01:27] <Dr_willis> F6 = gets to boot options
[01:27] <MrKB> ok so
[01:27] <Dr_willis> You may need to try the Nomodeset option MrKB
[01:27] <MrKB> acpi=off and what else?
[01:27] <Domaldel> So, what is virtualbox all about?
[01:27] <MrKB> nomodeset, got it
[01:27] <Dr_willis> !vbox
[01:28] <MrKB> acpi=off and nomodeset then?
[01:28] <Domaldel> Right...
[01:28] <Domaldel> That answer told me exactly nothing...
[01:28] <Dr_willis> I got Lubuntu in vbox on my windows machine.
[01:28] <Domaldel> I'm not a teckie...
[01:28] <Dr_willis> so what are you asking.
[01:28] <Dr_willis> its a virtual computer.
[01:28] <Domaldel> The reason I'd like linux is that I'm fed up with windows.
[01:29] <varunendra> MrKB, did you get cross marks on those options?
[01:29] <Domaldel> Don't mean that I have a clue about what I'm doing though =)
[01:29] <Dr_willis> Domaldel,  then you dont want to be using WUBI. since that runs 'under' windows. sort of..
[01:29] <MrKB> yes varunendra
[01:29] <varunendra> then 'Esc' and 'Enter'
[01:29] <Domaldel> Ok?
[01:29] <arepo> any one now how can a i solve the problem with .conf in xxxterm?
[01:29] <MrKB> ok thanks varunendra
[01:29] <Dr_willis> arepo,  clarify the problem.
[01:29] <Domaldel> Well, any idea about how to go about this then without CDs and stuff?
[01:29] <varunendra> MrKB, does the installation also hang after some particular stage? Sometimes we 'recommend' to keep system disconnected to make the installation fast. You can do everything later once it is installed.
[01:30] <MrKB> Domaldel - USB flash drive
[01:30] <MrKB> that's what I'm doing at the moment :)
[01:30] <Domaldel> Ah, yes that might work =)
[01:30] <arepo> i install  a bronser called xombrero and cannot save the general settings
[01:30] <Domaldel> I can use my phone as a flashdrive =)
[01:30] <Domaldel> Thanks for the idea =)
[01:30] <Dr_willis> Domaldel,  theres tools for rooted android to boot ISO files
[01:30] <MrKB> np
[01:31]  * MrKB doubts Domaldel has a rooted android device
[01:31] <Domaldel> Um, you're talking about things that's above my head again, sorry.
[01:31] <Domaldel> And nope, it's not rooted.
[01:31] <Domaldel> And it's not the phone I'm trying to install anything on.
[01:31] <Domaldel> But my computer.
[01:31] <Dr_willis> time to go buy a $5 usb flash drive
[01:31] <MrKB> varunendra - success. I'm at the desktop page. but it looks WEIRD
[01:31] <Dr_willis> the PHONE works as a usb flash to BOOT the pc.
[01:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Dr_willis: 8 GB?
[01:32] <Dr_willis> seen 8gb on sale for $5 :0
[01:32] <Domaldel> 03:31 in the morning on a sunday =)
[01:32] <Domaldel> In a country with sunday closed shops.
[01:32] <varunendra> MrKB, like what?? :)
[01:32] <Domaldel> So not going to happen today at last =)
[01:32] <Dr_willis> Domaldel,  guess youa re out of luick then
[01:32]  * Domaldel nods.
[01:32] <SonikkuAmerica> Domaldel: Lemme guess... Norway?
[01:32] <Domaldel> Might be.
[01:32]  * Domaldel grins.
[01:32]  * Domaldel nods at SonikkuAmerica.
[01:32] <MrKB> varunendra - will take a pic. one sec
[01:33] <MrKB> Domaldel - steal someone's USB FD
[01:33] <MrKB> they don't need it O_o
[01:33] <MrKB> you can even give it back when you're done, so it's not technically stealing
[01:33] <Domaldel> FD?
[01:33] <MrKB> flash drive
[01:33] <MrKB> sorry
[01:33] <Domaldel> Oh, right, flashdrive...
[01:33] <Domaldel> Sorry, my brain tends to shut down at night =)
[01:33] <MrKB> np
[01:33] <varunendra> Oh, MrKB , you may follow this post to create a detailed report on you wifi issue : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[01:34] <MrKB> thanks varunendra
[01:34] <varunendra> Welcome :)
[01:34] <Domaldel> Anyway, my phone pretty much works like a USB if I set it that way =)
[01:34] <Domaldel> I suspect that I can make it work that way if needed =)
[01:34] <varunendra> Domaldel, mine shuts down in the morning, which is now :P
[01:35]  * Domaldel grins.
[01:35] <Domaldel> Well, night, morning.
[01:35] <pfifo> I have a fully functional ubuntu live system on my phone, it works great.
[01:35] <Domaldel> Who cares :-P
[01:35] <Domaldel> It's the time when we should both be asleep I suspect ;-)
[01:35] <MrKB> Domaldel - that's what Dr_willis was telling you. You can't use your phone's "USB mode" or whatever you want to call it to boot off of so you can install Ubuntu
[01:35] <MrKB> unless you have special tools
[01:35] <MrKB> which require root
[01:36] <MrKB> you can use it as a flash drive inside Windows just fine, but this won't be inside windows
[01:36] <Domaldel> Hum, ok?
[01:36] <Domaldel> Guess I'll have to figure out how to get root access then =)
[01:36] <MrKB> shouldn't be too hard
[01:36] <switching> does anyone know the folder with all the .png files for the "close buttons" are?
[01:36] <varunendra> Domaldel, do you know the hot key for your system for boot menu? Try it when the phone is connected. If it shows up, you can certainly use it as a flash drive.
[01:37] <MrKB> what phone do you have?
[01:37] <pfifo> MrKB, I just popped grub2 onto my non-rooted phones storage put an iso image on the phone and wrote a grub.cfg no special tools needed at all
[01:37] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone when I load fancontrol it says mandatory settings are missing, how do I know what is missing?
[01:37] <Domaldel> Samsung galaxy xcover GT S some numbers
[01:37] <Domaldel> Don't remember the details.
[01:37] <MrKB> pfifo - tell that to Dr_willis. I was just regurgitating info lol
[01:37] <Domaldel> And I think I'll try varunendra's suggestion =)
[01:38] <Domaldel> Of course, chances are it won't work, but it's worth a shot anyway =)
[01:38] <MrKB> indeed lol
[01:38] <varunendra> :P
[01:38] <MrKB> varunendra - still waiting on my phone to upoad the pic of the weird desktop so I can link you to it
[01:39] <trism> switching: for the default unity theme: /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/
[01:39] <switching> trism thank you!!
[01:39] <eCurrency> Hi - can somebody help me?
[01:39] <eCurrency> I need something to start up wth reboot and I can't seem to get it right.
[01:40] <varunendra> MrKB, is it 'workable'? You may try other boot options as well. Many at once if needed.
[01:40] <MrKB> sort of workable. you'll see in a sec
[01:40]  * MrKB just turned on WiFi on his phone to upload faster
[01:40] <switching> trism some of the close buttons are in there, but the one that appears in the top left when you maximize the window isn't
[01:40] <varunendra> not in a hurry :)
[01:40] <eCurrency> at the command prompt I type "bitcoind --daemon" and it starts fine... how do I make this start if the system has to reboot?
[01:41] <pfifo> eCurrency, add it to /etc/rc.local
[01:41] <Dr_willis> eCurrency,  rc.local or make a actual service out of it (a bit harder)
[01:41] <Domaldel> I'll let you all know if a miracle happens and it works out alright =)
[01:41] <pfifo> thatll be 0.0015 btc
[01:41] <Dr_willis> + taxs
[01:41] <eCurrency> I tried this and it didn't work:
[01:41] <Dr_willis> eCurrency,  give us detailas as to what you did EXACTLY
[01:42] <Dr_willis> because its most likely you did it wrong. ;)
[01:42] <pfifo> eCurrency, make sure your rc.local is executable and ends with 'exit 0'
[01:42] <varunendra> MrKB, by the way, the F6 = boot options directly was a revelation for me ;) Didn't know of it earlier :) Thanks to Dr_willis too for the confirmation.
[01:42] <eCurrency> oop - one sec. I lost the command
[01:42] <Domaldel> The number of the phone is GT-S5690 btw =)
[01:42] <Domaldel> If that says anything to you folks =)
[01:42] <eCurrency> 1 second - I show you what i did
[01:43] <trism> switching: yeah that isn't really part of the theme, that's a unity thing, I'll see if I can find it
[01:43] <Dr_willis> varunendra,  I just normally add the grub options by hand. ;) i rarely use F6
[01:44] <switching> trism i think i found it in Ambiance/unity
[01:44] <MrKB> varunendra - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x0gm7qwn8t2pens/YkbUJHIcRJ
[01:44] <switching> ty tho rism
[01:44] <switching> *trism
[01:44] <varunendra> Dr_willis, that's sure an option in installed system, but what can we do in a live boot to add those?
[01:45] <pfifo> varunendra, add it to your grub.cfg
[01:45] <Dr_willis> varunendra,  i think theres a way to do that also. i rarelyu need them these days
[01:45] <Dr_willis> ive edited the syslinux.cfgs on live usbs befor for some people.
[01:45] <varunendra> pfifo, I know that. But that's only possible in an installed system. Live CD/USB doesn't use grub at all :(
[01:46] <MrKB> varunendra - did the link work?
[01:46] <pfifo> varunendra, liveusb uses grub2
[01:46] <MrKB> dropbox fails often
[01:46] <trism> switching: actually I think it is: /usr/share/unity/6/close_dash.png
[01:46] <trism> switching: plus the various other close_ ones
[01:46] <Domaldel> Hum, halfway done with the download of the ubuntu installer =)
[01:46] <varunendra> MrKB, yep taking a look (indeed looks funny).
[01:46] <MrKB> still can't connect to my home's AP in here BTW
[01:47] <MrKB> Do you guys think if it can connect to my phone's AP but not my home AP the problem really could be the usb wifi antenna and/or the linux driver for it?
[01:47] <Dr_willis> Domaldel,  installing ubuntu on your phone from one of those Google Play market tools?
[01:47] <varunendra> MrKB, most probably it's a result of frequency/resolution out of monitor's range. What graphics card do you have?
[01:47] <MrKB> he's planning on installing Ubuntu on PC using his phone as a bootable USB drive
[01:47] <pfifo> MrKB, does you home ap restrict connections based on mac address
[01:48] <switching> trism ok ty
[01:48] <MrKB> integrated varunendra
[01:48] <MrKB> no pfifo
[01:48] <MrKB> varunendra - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769519/
[01:48] <Saiki> hello everyone. I am having some trouble upgrading jaunty, how do I fix that?
[01:48] <Domaldel> Nope.
[01:48] <eCurrency> .
[01:48] <eCurrency> .
[01:48] <eCurrency> ok, Im back
[01:48] <Domaldel> Downloading a ISO from the website.
[01:48] <FloodBot1> eCurrency: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:49] <eCurrency> oh
[01:49] <Domaldel> Then using the phone and trying to run the ISO as from the phone as a flashdrive =)
[01:49] <Domaldel> Probably going to fail, but want to try anyway =)
[01:49] <eCurrency> (I just got a warning. Newb ya know - kinda)
[01:49] <MrKB> lol FloodBot1
[01:50] <Saiki> hello everyone. I am having some trouble upgrading jaunty, how do I fix that? (And yes I know jaunty is ancient, latest I have and no cds)
[01:50] <Dr_willis> Domaldel,  you do realize you need to use 'DriveDroid' for that?
[01:50] <pfifo> !eolupgrade | Saiki
[01:50] <varunendra> MrKB, wow! Intel 865! Can't be any 'legecy'ier than that :P
[01:50] <MrKB> shush varunendra O_O
[01:50] <pfifo> 865
[01:51] <eCurrency> ok, can somebody help with with this so I don't turn in to a staight ubuntu hater... I really want give this os a chance:
[01:51] <MrKB> Dr_willis - [09:37:16 PM] <pfifo> MrKB, I just popped grub2 onto my non-rooted phones storage put an iso image on the phone and wrote a grub.cfg no special tools needed at all
[01:51] <eCurrency> http://pastebin.com/FCNM6P6P
[01:51] <Dr_willis> MrKB,  im suprised that works at all.
[01:51] <MrKB> again, tell that to pfifo. I'm just regurgitating info lol
[01:51] <varunendra> MrKB, looks like the nomodeset option didn't work. It should have booted you in the basic graphics mode. Is the monitor an old 14" crt type?
[01:51] <pfifo> Dr_willis, MrKB, some computers wont boot via flash drives though
[01:51] <eCurrency> all I want it to do is start bitcoind at boot time
[01:52] <Dr_willis> eCurrency,  so whats your exact rc.local file look like?
[01:52] <MrKB> it is old and small, but no, it's LCD
[01:52] <MrKB> pfifo - yeah but if that's the case he's SOL either way as his other option was a USB FD
[01:52] <eCurrency> 1 sec dr_ willis (I know watchu talkin bout)
[01:52] <Dr_willis> eCurrency,  starting stuff from rc.local is rather trivial. assuming you understand the basics.
[01:53] <pfifo> eCurrency, you can NOT run sudo from /etc/rc.local
[01:53] <Dr_willis> theres no NEED to use 'sudo' from rc.local
[01:53] <pfifo> nor do you need to, rc.local is run by root anyway
[01:53] <Dr_willis>  unless you are switching to a differnt user, but then you use su i recall.
[01:54] <varunendra> MrKB, if the system is still on in that mode, try Ctrl + "+" multiple times. It is supposed to change the resolution (maybe "-" instead of "+").
[01:54] <mchlbhm> Hey guys. I dd'd an iso to a usb so I could install ubuntu. Now I can't use the usb to save files due to permission problems. I assume I caused it to be a read only cd. How do I change it back?
[01:54] <MrKB> ok
[01:54] <MrKB> not working
[01:55] <Dr_willis> mchlbhm,  it thinks it is a CD/ISO. if you want convert it back to a normal data flash - you need to repartion it. (ive used dd to 'zero' the flash, then gparted to repartition)
[01:55] <pfifo> eCurrency, all you need in rc.local is '/usr/bin/bitcoind -daemon'
[01:55] <Catherine_> hello
[01:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Catherine_: Hey!
[01:55] <husnainlatif> hi Catherine_
[01:56] <mchlbhm> Dr_willis, could you point me to a site that would teach me how to do that?
[01:56] <Catherine_> i am trying to remove the explorer line "Send files via bluetooth"
[01:56] <Catherine_> any idea ? :)
[01:57] <SonikkuAmerica> Catherine_: What's the "explorer" line?
[01:57] <varunendra> MrKB, you can manually add desired resolution using vga= parameter on the same boot menu where you selected the 'nomodeset' option. I think vga=788 should work for you.
[01:57] <Catherine_> when i right click a picture of mine
[01:57] <varunendra> MrKB, see : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common_Kernel_Options
[01:57] <Catherine_> it says send via bluetooth
[01:57] <husnainlatif> btw today i tried to send a file to my mobile via bt on ubuntu and it failed
[01:57] <Catherine_> i want that option deleted!
[01:57] <MrKB> So again, do you guys think if Ubuntu can connect to my phone's AP no problem but not my home AP that the problem really could be the usb wifi antenna and/or the linux driver for it?
[01:58] <MrKB> my main goal is to get this thing connected to my home AP so I can run the Ubuntu install the way I want to.
[01:58] <MrKB> then once it's install, I can deal with fail video resolution
[01:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Catherine_: Are you in Windows though? (Maybe that's why I'm unsure of your terminology.)
[01:58] <sere> Catherine_: you mean the nautilus sent to ?
[01:58] <Catherine_> yes
[01:59] <SonikkuAmerica> Catherine_: Did you disable your Bluetooth? (i.e. switch it off)
[02:00] <varunendra> MrKB, I usually deal with wireless issus (doesn't make me an expert though), but that involves many different factors and can be confusing sometimes. You may post the diagnostics report to give us initial hints about the problem.
[02:00] <Catherine_> http://i40.tinypic.com/14age54.png
[02:00] <Catherine_> this one i mean
[02:00] <varunendra> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385 MrKB
[02:01] <varunendra> MrKB, by any chance you are using WP
[02:01] <Saiki> pfifo: an upgrade to lucid from jaunty is not supported with this tool
[02:01] <sere> Catherine_: i believe your nautilus send to scripts are in ~/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/
[02:01] <MrKB> WP?
[02:01] <varunendra> WPA/WPA2 mixed mode (typo it was)
[02:01] <MrKB> Catherine_-  that looks like mac, not windows.
[02:01] <varunendra> in the router
[02:01] <mchlbhm> Dr_willis, nevermind. found something. Thank you for your help. :)
[02:01] <MrKB> no varunendra
[02:02] <MrKB> I turned off encryption for the time being
[02:02] <MrKB> on both APs
[02:02] <Catherine_> its ubuntu
[02:02] <pfifo> Saiki, honestly, Ive never heard of an upgrade working properly anyway, just install fresh
[02:03] <varunendra> MrKB, then as a wild shot, you can try "swenc=1" option for your driver (on a working system).
[02:03] <sere> Catherine_: how did you get your nautilus looking so sexy?
[02:03] <Catherine_> hehehe :)
[02:03] <MrKB> working system?
[02:04] <varunendra> MrKB, Yep. You need to remove, then reload the driver with that option. But these are really just blind shots. Almost nonsense unless we have solid clues.
[02:04] <MrKB> what do you mean by working system
[02:04] <Saiki> pfifo: seems to be working from command line LMAO
[02:05] <stercor> How do I eliminate password prompts for sshfs?
[02:05] <varunendra> MrKB, means a system where you can at least get a terminal to enter commands and network manager to handle the connection.
[02:05] <poppingtonic> varunendra: solved. Thank you!
[02:06] <MrKB> I'm in the Live environment right now
[02:06] <varunendra> poppingtonic, great. I almost thought I left you in the middle of the things (was too sleepy :P)
[02:06] <MrKB> Did Ctrl+Alt+F1
[02:06] <MrKB> so now I'm in terminal
[02:06] <MrKB> Trying to install that wireless_script for your diag info :P
[02:07] <varunendra> MrKB, really wanna try random things with the connection? ;)
[02:07] <MrKB> damn, how do I go back to the desktop from this terminal window?
[02:07] <MrKB> just realized I forgot to reconnect to my phone's AP
[02:07] <varunendra> Ctrl +Alt +F7
[02:07] <MrKB> thanks
[02:07] <varunendra> :P
[02:08] <MrKB> [10:07:22 PM] <varunendra> MrKB, really wanna try random things with the connection? ;) <-- what do you mean?
[02:08]  * MrKB is confused
[02:09] <MrKB> ok so I have a wireless-info.txt file now
[02:09] <varunendra> MrKB, I don't know yet the reason (can't even guess) why you are unable to connect. So whatever we try from here would be based on purely guesses, not clues.
[02:09] <MrKB> how do I send it to you guys from this fail live install
[02:10] <MrKB> when you asked if I wanted to try random things you made it sound like it was dangerous
[02:10] <poppingtonic> varunendra: :D I ended up opening up my laptop and fiddling with the switch from the inside. It turns out that toggling it while the machine is booting up does the trick.
[02:10] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: Well... random things CAN be dangerous :)
[02:10] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: You can show them what you have via pastebinit
[02:11]  * MrKB doesn't even know where the hell the .txt file is
[02:11] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: Which one?
[02:11] <varunendra> MrKB, not really. Anything we try here woult persist only as long as you reboot :P
[02:11] <MrKB> wireless-info.txt
[02:11] <MrKB> ok then that's fine varunendra. let's dfo it
[02:11] <varunendra> MrKB, you need to upload it somewhere of course, but you'll, (oh.. again..) need a working system for that. :/
[02:11] <MrKB> according to the forum post you guys linked me to, it should be on my home directory
[02:11] <MrKB> but seeing as how I can't see anything... <.<
[02:11] <MrKB> well, I can sort of see. some things.
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: [ ls ~ ]
[02:12] <syntroPi> MrKB, find -name 'wireless-info.txt'
[02:12] <MrKB> is there some CLI command I can dfo?
[02:12] <MrKB> there we go
[02:12] <varunendra> poppingtonic, that was a huge relief. I thought you may need to reset BIOS (my ultimate shot in these issues ;))
[02:12] <poppingtonic> MrKB: run "sudo updatedb" then after the terminal prompt returns, run "locate wireless | grep info | grep txt$"
[02:12] <MrKB> I did ls ~
[02:12] <MrKB> I see it
[02:13] <MrKB> ok poppingtonic
[02:13] <SonikkuAmerica> !pt | joao_ ??
[02:13] <MrKB> what now poppingtonic
[02:14] <MrKB> it returned /home/ubuntu/wireless-info.txt
[02:14] <MrKB> which is where I thought it was lol
[02:14] <MrKB> but now, how do I pastebin it
[02:14] <SonikkuAmerica> MrKB: [ cat /home/ubuntu/wireless-info.txt | pastebinit ]
[02:14] <MrKB> :D
[02:14] <poppingtonic> good.
[02:15]  * MrKB needs to install pastebinit again
[02:15] <MrKB> SonikkuAmerica - command please :D
[02:15]  * MrKB forgot he rebooted the live install
[02:15] <SonikkuAmerica> [ sudo apt-get install pastebinit ]
[02:15] <MrKB> thanks
[02:16] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769648 - SonikkuAmerica, poppingtonic, Dr_willis, varunendra
[02:16]  * MrKB crosses fingers
[02:16] <MrKB> varunendra - still need me to do that swept=1 command or whatever it was?
[02:17]  * MrKB hasn't done it yes, was working on getting that wireless-info.txt
[02:17] <MrKB> yet*
[02:17] <varunendra> Let's see. wait a mo.
[02:17] <MrKB> ok
[02:19] <varunendra> MrKB, everything seems normal there. Is the "Light" your home ap?
[02:19] <MrKB> yes
[02:19] <varunendra> Does it have N-channel enabled?
[02:19] <MrKB> no
[02:19] <MrKB> it's an old router, no N
[02:19] <MrKB> I have it on G-Only, in case you were wondering
[02:20] <mogaj> Hi while i am trying update my ubuntu 13.04 with this command 'sudo apt-get update' am getting this error .... http://pastebin.com/4w459Q8p  ... how can i fix this?
[02:20] <poppingtonic> varunendra: thankfully it didn't get to that. I
[02:21] <SonikkuAmerica> mogaj: Try Method 1 on this page: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-the-ubuntu-gpg-error-badsig.html
[02:21] <poppingtonic> 've always been terrified of BIOS, for some reason I can't fathom :)
[02:21] <varunendra> MrKB, Well, you can try changing the channel to 1 or 11. They're most recommended ones for better connectivity. For the swenc thing, you may try it right now.
[02:21] <MrKB> What was the command again? And where do I try it?
[02:21]  * MrKB is too lazy to scroll up :)
[02:22] <MrKB> network manager?
[02:22] <varunendra> MrKB, try - "sudo modprobe -rfv rtl8192cu" then - "modprobe -v rtl8192cu swenc=Y". Enter these in a terminal.
[02:22] <MrKB> ok
[02:23] <purvesh> how to install skype 64 bit version from command line
[02:23] <MrKB> for the second command it says "Module swenc=Y not found."
[02:23] <MrKB> is it swenc=1 ?
[02:23] <varunendra> poppingtonic, yep, the BIOS resetting is the last resort.
[02:23] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: [ sudo apt-get install skype ]. Make sure you have the correct repos enabled.
[02:24] <varunendra> MrKB, doesn't matter 1 or Y here. What was the exact command you typed?
[02:24] <MrKB> first sudo modprobe -rfv rtl8192cu
[02:24] <MrKB> then when terminal came back, the second one
[02:24] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, But it will install 64 bit version by default ?
[02:24] <varunendra> correct
[02:24] <varunendra> second one?
[02:24] <MrKB> modprobe -v rtl8192 swenc=Y
[02:25] <MrKB> I also tried =1
[02:25] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: One second...
[02:25] <varunendra> you forgot "cu" in the last
[02:25] <MrKB> both say FATAL: Module swenc=Y not found.
[02:25] <varunendra> rtl8192cu
[02:25] <varunendra> not rtl8192
[02:25] <MrKB> I didn't forget in the terminal
[02:26] <varunendra> MrKB, please show us - "modinfo rtl8192cu"
[02:26] <syntroPi> purvesh, afaik there is no 64 bit skype yet?
[02:26] <MrKB> how
[02:26] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, It is highly recommended to use the package provided in the Canonical partner repository, not the one distributed from the skype website, as the skype website currently points users to the wrong package for 64-bit systems of Ubuntu 11.10 and above.
[02:27] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[02:27] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: Some of that info is outdated... I wanted to test it myself.
[02:27] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: Which'll only take a second.
[02:27] <purvesh> syntroPi, 64 bit is available
[02:28] <varunendra> MrKB, just enter the command and see at the bottom of the output. What are the parameters (parm : ) Does it show "swenc"?
[02:28]  * MrKB can't see the entirety of the output
[02:28] <MrKB> how can I scroll up?
[02:28] <syntroPi> purvesh, where? there are packages for x64 linux os but they contain x86 binary only
[02:28] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: It doesn't look like there's an amd64 version... on my PC it wants to pull in a bunch of 32-bit dependencies.
[02:29] <syntroPi> purvesh, see output of "file $(which skype)"
[02:29] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, i haven't run installation command yet, above both command i had run and i had also manually check partner repository as per describe in that link
[02:29] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: Even if I spec :amd64 the :i386 stuff appears.
[02:29] <varunendra> MrKB, press a few blank "enter"s ??
[02:30] <MrKB> wouldn't that make it worse?
[02:30] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: However, all isn't necessarily lost: I believe Skype is available as a plugin for the Pidgin chat client... but it may still pull in all those i386 dependencies.
[02:30] <MrKB> I want to see what's already passed
[02:30] <MrKB> so I can tell you what the output is
[02:30]  * MrKB is operating inside the Ctrl+Alt+F1 mode, whatever that is
[02:30] <varunendra> MrKB, what I want to see is at the bottom of the output.
[02:30] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, so how do i install skype on my system on community they said you should install package from ubuntu partner repository only not from skype website
[02:30]  * MrKB hasn't figured out how to open a regular terminal window on his fail live install
[02:31] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: Right. That's because it needs all those i386 dependencies at present.
[02:31] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: At current there is no amd64 version of Skype.
[02:31] <MrKB> varunendra - one sec
[02:31] <syntroPi> purvesh, SonikkuAmerica i think there is only x86 skype binary and no other possibility to speak skype protocol than this. so even when allowing pidgin to use that skype api you will need the 32bit dependencies on x64
[02:31] <MrKB> picture forthcoming
[02:31] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, so do you recommend this command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install skype
[02:32] <purvesh> syntroPi, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[02:32] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: Yes. (Make sure you have the Canonical Partner repo enabled in Software Sources/Software and Updates!)
[02:32] <varunendra> Oh, MrKB , I forgot something v.imp. (silly me... ) did you add "sudo" before the second command like the first one?
[02:32] <MrKB> yes
[02:33] <MrKB> was I not supposed to?
[02:33] <varunendra> then I'm stumped :P
[02:33] <MrKB> oh
[02:33] <syntroPi> purvesh, what do you want to say with that link?
[02:33] <Saiki> 12.10 is supported, right?
[02:33] <SonikkuAmerica> Saiki: Indeed it is...
[02:33] <varunendra> nou, it had to be added. You did it right.
[02:33] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, i had done sudo apt-get update but i haven't done sudo apt-get upgrade only one upgrade is remain that i want to do later
[02:33] <Saiki> SonikkuAmerica: good
[02:34] <MrKB> varunendra - still have that dropbox album open?
[02:34] <MrKB> just added the picture there
[02:34] <purvesh> syntroPi, they had specifically written procedure for 64bit user
[02:34] <varunendra> yup
[02:34] <varunendra> Nice name btw, for the album :P
[02:35] <MrKB> lol thanks
[02:35] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, syntroPi, but as per that link it should also show at ubuntu software center but i am not able to see skype at software center even after sudo apt-get update
[02:36] <syntroPi> purvesh, yes sure because you need multiarch enabled on x64 to be able to install the x86 binary dependencies for skype
[02:36] <MrKB> varunendra - from what I can tell, I'm not seeing the entirety of the output. mainly what's all the way to the left
[02:36] <MrKB> maybe I _do_ need to fix this res problem before we can continue -_-
[02:36] <varunendra> By the way, MrKB , this driver has been reported acting silly in recent updates. The only reason for trying is because it is working with your other ap. Otherwise I'd have suggested you to just finish the install and compile the proprietary one (which isn't a guaranteed fix either, but much better recently)
[02:36] <SonikkuAmerica> purvesh: I can't help with Software Center issues because mine keeps core-dumping in GNOME 3.8 ... ask syntroPi
[02:37] <MrKB> Oh I see
[02:37] <MrKB> well I'd like to keep trying a bit more before going that route if that's ok :)
[02:37]  * MrKB really wants wifi working before installing
[02:37] <syntroPi> purvesh, i dont use software center i prefer terminal or synaptic
[02:37] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, syntroPi, sorry now i am able to see in software center i had restarted software center
[02:37] <varunendra> Oh, MrKB the second command is just "modprobe -v", not -rfv
[02:38] <MrKB> oh
[02:38] <MrKB> I knew that <.<
[02:38] <varunendra> me too :P
[02:38] <purvesh> syntroPi, Yeah that is good but i want to confirm weather multiarch is enable or not
[02:38] <MrKB> still nothing varunendra
[02:38] <varunendra> that's good
[02:38] <MrKB> wait hold on
[02:39] <MrKB> ok now I got something
[02:39] <varunendra> got a single (or a few) lines of output (regarding "insmod")
[02:39] <MrKB> plenty of lines O_O
[02:39] <MrKB> need pic?
[02:39]  * MrKB really wishes he could open a regular, scrollable, terminal window
[02:39] <MrKB> can't I pipe these commands to pastebinit? XD
[02:40] <varunendra> Not necessarily. All of them started with "insmod" ?
[02:40] <MrKB> looks like it, yes
[02:40] <MrKB> but I got some errors at the end
[02:40] <MrKB> which I will now type in here
[02:40] <varunendra> With no errors? Then it's good. Now return to desktop and retry connecting.
[02:40] <MrKB> Y invalid for parameter swent
[02:40] <varunendra> Errors :-o
[02:41] <MrKB> ERROR: could not insert 'rtl8192cu': Invalid arguement
[02:41] <varunendra> swenc
[02:41] <MrKB> arugment*
[02:41] <MrKB> god I'm an idiot
[02:41] <purvesh> SonikkuAmerica, syntroPi, Thank you my problem resolved :)
[02:41]  * MrKB misses copy and paste
[02:41] <varunendra> what was the parameter exactly... oh..
[02:41] <MrKB> ok way fewer lines now
[02:41] <MrKB> I can see them all in my screen
[02:41] <MrKB> I see no errors
[02:42] <MrKB> one single insmod line, but gigantic
[02:42] <MrKB> or at least that's what it looks like to me
[02:42] <syntroPi> purvesh,  "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" should be i386 and "dpkg --print-architecture" amd64
[02:42] <varunendra> Now return to desktop and retry connecting
[02:42] <MrKB> ok
[02:42]  * MrKB crosses fingers
[02:43] <MrKB> doesn't look like it's working
[02:43] <syntroPi> purvesh, otherwise you would need to "dpkg --add-architecture i386"
[02:43]  * MrKB waits
[02:43] <varunendra> MrKB, if required, also do a "sudo service networking restart" and "sudo service network-manager restart"
[02:43] <MrKB> ok
[02:43] <MrKB> I might want to try that, seeing as how this didn't work :(
[02:43] <MrKB> one moment please
[02:44] <MrKB> the network-manager one is going crazy
[02:44] <MrKB> I see the same lines over and over
[02:44] <MrKB> modemanager respawning too fast, stopped
[02:44] <varunendra> :(
[02:44] <MrKB> I think maybe I did sudo service network manager restart
[02:45] <MrKB> can't tell now obviously lol
[02:45] <MrKB> how do I make it stop
[02:45] <varunendra> is it running in a terminal? Ctrl +C maybe.
[02:45] <MrKB> Ctrl+C didn't work
[02:45] <MrKB> yes, the Ctrl+Alt+F1 one
[02:46] <syntroPi> sudo service network-manager stop
[02:46] <MrKB> it won't give me a chance to type from what I can see
[02:46] <MrKB> it's just scrolling crazy
[02:46] <varunendra> syntroPi, he tried "network manager", no hyphen :(
[02:47] <syntroPi> other tty then
[02:47] <varunendra> Other tricks? Like Ctrl + Z
[02:47] <MrKB> oh wow, that worked
[02:47] <MrKB> [10:46:12 PM] <syntroPi> sudo service network-manager stop <--
[02:47] <MrKB> worked
[02:47] <MrKB> also I just looked through my commands
[02:47] <MrKB> I _did_ do sudo service network-manager restart
[02:47] <MrKB> so...wth just happened lol
[02:48] <varunendra> ... is not good :/
[02:48] <MrKB> I just did it again
[02:48] <MrKB> it went crazy again
[02:48]  * MrKB huggles syntroPi for stop command magic
[02:48] <MrKB> varunendra, What could it mean?
[02:49] <MrKB> just went back to desktop, now I see a black screen
[02:49] <MrKB> You blew up my live install O_O
[02:49] <MrKB> time for reboot?
[02:49] <varunendra> MrKB, It means there is more than just networking at fault at the moment.
[02:49] <MrKB> I see...
[02:49] <MrKB> maybe my iso?
[02:50] <MrKB> even though the iso checked out after doing a re-check through the torrent
[02:50] <varunendra> You did check in the torrent client didn't you?
[02:50] <MrKB> yes
[02:51] <varunendra> In advanced boot menu, there is another option to "Check for defects". It should verify the integrity as well.
[02:51] <MrKB> ok
[02:51] <MrKB> so let me reboot then
[02:52] <MrKB> where's check for defect?
[02:52] <MrKB> I see "test memory"
[02:53] <varunendra> Nope , that's a different thing
[02:53] <MrKB> ok so where
[02:53] <varunendra> MrKB, isn't there an option to "test/check cd for defects"?
[02:53] <MrKB> no
[02:54] <varunendra> Ok, "Check Disc for defects" : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Ubuntu_CD_Advanced_Welcome_Page_Options
[02:54] <varunendra> Isn't your screen the same?
[02:54] <syntroPi> MrKB, just do sudo service lightdm restart
[02:55] <MrKB> no, my screen is not like that varunendra
[02:55] <MrKB> "Run Ubuntu from this USB" "Install Ubuntu on a Hard Disk" "Test memory" "Boot from first hard disk"
[02:55] <MrKB> those are my options
[02:55] <MrKB> syntroPi - if that was meant to avoid me rebooting, too late XD
[02:56] <syntroPi> MrKB, you can do check of your live cd when you hit f2 immediately at the booting into it (grub)
[02:56] <varunendra> MrKB, how have you created the live USB? Unetbootin?
[02:56] <MrKB> no
[02:56] <MrKB> Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.3.5
[02:57] <syntroPi> MrKB, there is also a checksums file at it so you can do md5sum -c <thatfilenamegoeshere>   in the root dir of that iso
[02:58] <varunendra> MrKB, I really think you should just finish the installation first. This chip is not known for such big issues. But the driver has suffered some regressions lately it seems. You should be able to make it work anyway, using the proprietary driver if not this one.
[02:59] <MrKB> ok
[02:59] <MrKB> where's the md5 hash
[02:59] <syntroPi> MrKB, its "md5sum -c md5sum.txt" in the root dir of your iso contents
[02:59] <MrKB> I just did the iso - 5d5d1a7da2a0659b163d4f8bd70fbe6f
[02:59] <MrKB> oh ok
[03:00] <syntroPi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes thats fine then
[03:00] <MrKB> no I need the md5 for the iso itself
[03:00] <MrKB> that .txt file doesn't have it
[03:00]  * MrKB is verifyig the md5 on his WinXP computer where he dled it
[03:01] <varunendra> MrKB, by the way, one way to figure out the 'reason' is to keep an eye on "dmesg" and "syslog" whenever a connection attempt fails.
[03:01] <syntroPi> that txt file is inside the iso and in that txt file there is a md5 sum for every other file inside that iso
[03:01]  * MrKB did the md5 hash on the iso file itself
[03:01] <MrKB> how do I do that varunendra, sounds like a great step towards figuring this out :)
[03:01] <syntroPi> MrKB, yeah that verifies your download but not that its fine on your usb stick
[03:02] <MrKB> the hash matches with the link
[03:02] <MrKB> truth
[03:02] <MrKB> let me do it from the stick then
[03:02] <MrKB> so let me boot into live
[03:02] <MrKB> but before I do
[03:02] <MrKB> varunendra
[03:02] <MrKB> what options should I try this time
[03:02] <MrKB> so that the video doesn't fail horribly
[03:02] <FloodBot1> MrKB: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:02] <MrKB> shut up FloodBot1 O_o
[03:03] <varunendra> MrKB, "dmesg" and "cat /var/log/syslog" Usually we need to filter those outputs but just take a look at last 20-30 lines whenever a connection attempt fails.
[03:03] <syntroPi> MrKB, maybe you can press f2 right after bios post (before grub) and choose nomodeset with f6 ?
[03:04] <MrKB> I'm in the advanced options already. nomodeset won't work the same from here?
[03:04]  * MrKB doesn't know what grub is
[03:04] <varunendra> MrKB, try manually adding the desired options
[03:04] <MrKB> acpi=off and nomodeset right?
[03:04] <MrKB> don't want me to try new ones, seeing as how those failed last time?
[03:05] <HelloWorld321> I loaded an anacron job; I ran anacron -T to test it, and got no response (which I think is 0, which means all okay); and then I ran anacron -n -f to get it to run now; but the /var/spool/anacron directory doesn't have an entry for my new anacron job.  How can I make sure it runs?
[03:05] <syntroPi> varunendra, hmm maybe acpi=off can cause trouble?
[03:05] <MrKB> too late. already picked it and booted into live. XD
[03:05]  * MrKB is impatient
[03:05] <varunendra> You may try vga=788 this time, at the boot line. syntroPi yes it can.
[03:06] <MrKB> oh right. vga, that's the one I wanted to try
[03:06] <MrKB> fudge -_-
[03:06] <MrKB> welp! let's see what happens
[03:06] <MrKB> if I get fail video again, I'll reboot and try again
[03:06] <varunendra> no problem if there is no problem ;)
[03:06] <MrKB> ll
[03:06] <MrKB> lol*
[03:06] <MrKB> I like you guys! you're super helpful
[03:07] <varunendra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common_Kernel_Options
[03:07] <MrKB> and do it for free O_O
[03:07] <MrKB> also, fail video -_-
[03:07] <varunendra> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Changing_the_CD_Boot_Option_Configuration_Line
[03:07] <MrKB> ok so
[03:07] <MrKB> nomodeset and vga right?
[03:07] <MrKB> no acpi=off
[03:07] <varunendra> MrKB, that's because I couldn't catch someone to play cards with me :-o
[03:07] <Ben64> !enter | MrKB
[03:07] <MrKB> lol
[03:07] <MrKB> I'm thankful for it
[03:08] <pvs_> Good night everybody. How coud I restore my resources list that have benn blocked by Ubuntu on the atualization for 13.04?
[03:08] <talltimber> hello
[03:09] <varunendra> pvs_, do you mean the /etc/apt/sources.list file?
[03:09] <pvs_> yes. I have aded some new resources manually. But now its not available
[03:09] <pr0teus> Hey i'm trying to recover a pendrive with a folder corrupted (when i use ls i can see the folder but with no size) i'm using DD to make a image of the pendrive, my pendrive have 8gb, but right now the image is around 11gb , anyreasons?
[03:09] <varunendra> pvs_, what is the error you are getting?
[03:10] <MrKB> varunendra - adding the vga line now. Do I do [-vga=788] ? Or [vga=788]
[03:10] <pvs_> I cant check the box to activate de resource on the Synaptic
[03:10] <varunendra> vga=788
[03:10] <MrKB> also I put a checkmar on nomodeset but I don't see it anywhere in the Boot Options line. is that normal?
[03:10] <MrKB> checkmark*
[03:10] <varunendra> MrKB, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_BIOS_Extensions#Linux_video_mode_numbers
[03:11] <syntroPi> MrKB, try adding it manually it wont hurt it its there two times
[03:11] <varunendra> yes it is normal, although you can put it manually on the line.
[03:11] <MrKB> thanks for the chart. going to do 791 based on that :)
[03:11] <varunendra> :) ^^
[03:11] <MrKB> ok time to try this again
[03:11]  * MrKB crosses fingers
[03:12] <varunendra> ..and toes too.
[03:12] <MrKB> hm...why didn't we go for a 32-bit one?
[03:12] <neytiri> how do i setup a router WITHOUT nat on ubunut
[03:13] <varunendra> that would expect a good graphics support, while we are falling back to basic mode to be safe.
[03:13] <MrKB> seems it can only go up to 640x480
[03:13] <MrKB> gave me some error and gave me a list to pick from
[03:13] <Ben64> neytiri: explain what you mean by that
[03:13] <MrKB> I picked 640x480, 16-bit I think
[03:13] <varunendra> go ahead
[03:14]  * MrKB is waiting for live to boot
[03:14]  * MrKB has high hopes
[03:15] <varunendra> pvs_, what is the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" ? (give us its pastebin link)
[03:15] <varunendra> !pastebin | pvs_
[03:15] <neytiri> Ben when most people setup a router they use nat 1 public address for all the private, i am wanting to route between private and private address, like what you woudl see in a core network
[03:15] <pvs_> ok, just a moment
[03:16] <Saiki> any idea why the 12.10 installer is stalling on ym acer aspire 3680?
[03:16] <THE_GFR|WORK> how do you run a startup program as ROOT?
[03:16] <THE_GFR|WORK> I can't get it to do it
[03:16] <THE_GFR|WORK> I don't know
[03:16] <THE_GFR|WORK> I don't know how
[03:16] <Ben64> neytiri: then get a router
[03:16] <Ben64> THE_GFR|WORK: run what? most things you shouldn't need to run as root
[03:16] <neytiri> DUH
[03:16] <neytiri>  i want to use an ubuntu system as the router
[03:17] <Ben64> get a router instead, it's easier, cheaper, faster, better
[03:17]  * MrKB is still at the ubuntu splash screen. is getting worried
[03:17] <MrKB> nevermind, it's coming up now:D
[03:17] <varunendra> MrKB, hope it's less horrible this time ?
[03:17] <MrKB> still looks the same as before though. fail :(
[03:18] <MrKB> sigh
[03:18] <MrKB> anyway
[03:18] <MrKB> time to do md5 check
[03:18] <syntroPi> MrKB, whats your gpu hardware?
[03:18] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769519/
[03:18] <varunendra> intel 865 :P
[03:18] <varunendra> syntroPi, ^^
[03:18] <pvs_> http://distrib.abntex2.googlecode.com/hg/debian/ testing main
[03:18] <Dr_willis> a pastebin url.. when all it takes to answer would be one line.... ;P
[03:19]  * MrKB is lazy
[03:19] <MrKB> that's still one line :P
[03:20] <MrKB> well this is incredibly unusual
[03:20] <infinitux> i'm perplexed. i installed gnome 3 using ubuntu software center and it loads gdm fine, but when gnome is selected as the window manager it just loads unity
[03:20]  * Dr_willis is lazy so wont open a browser.
[03:20] <MrKB> Ctrl+Alt+F1 yields a weird page. all black with green flashing squares on it
[03:20] <varunendra> pvs_, that doesn't look like the output to the command. ??
[03:20] <infinitux> i want to escape unity, but love ubuntu
[03:20] <Saiki> any idea why the 12.10 installer is stalling on my acer aspire 3680? (installing xubuntu)
[03:20] <infinitux> and i don't want kde ( sick of it )
[03:20] <pvs_> sorry, this is the url of the repository
[03:20] <THE_GFR|WORK> how do I run the script as root when I start up
[03:20] <THE_GFR|WORK> HOW>?>?>>hjir
[03:21] <THE_GFR|WORK> q3m;4
[03:21] <THE_GFR|WORK> m54 ul['t
[03:21] <THE_GFR|WORK>  utr
[03:21] <FloodBot1> THE_GFR|WORK: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:21] <THE_GFR|WORK>  ts
[03:21] <Ben64> Saiki: you should install 13.04 or 12.04, 12.10 is old now
[03:21] <Dr_willis> infinitux,  what ububntu release?
[03:21] <varunendra> THE_GFR|WORK, add it to the /etc/rc.local file.
[03:21] <Saiki> Ben64: I don't think it would matter..
[03:21] <infinitux> pangolin i think
[03:21] <RoDiMuS-X> Is there a program that shows a visual representation of available disk space in ubuntu?
[03:21] <Saiki> Ben64: Shouldn't it INSALL no matter what version it is?
[03:21] <THE_GFR|WORK> how do I run the startup program as root?
[03:21] <infinitux> it has been saying there is a release upgrade
[03:21] <Dr_willis> RoDiMuS-X,  should be several in the repos.
[03:21] <THE_GFR|WORK> without it asking for a password
[03:21] <infinitux> but i'm leary about it
[03:21] <THE_GFR|WORK> so it runs without errors
[03:21] <Dr_willis> THE_GFR|WORK,  depends on what the app  is. and what its doing
[03:21] <THE_GFR|WORK> so it actually executes
[03:21] <Dr_willis> THE_GFR|WORK,  give us details.
[03:21] <RoDiMuS-X> Dr_willis, any recommendation?
[03:22] <Ben64> THE_GFR|WORK: first off, relax. have patience. don't spam.
[03:22] <THE_GFR|WORK> Dr_willis: say for example fancontrol
[03:22] <infinitux> Dr_willis: any ideas?
[03:22] <Dr_willis> RoDiMuS-X,  use the serach feature and look.
[03:22] <THE_GFR|WORK> Ben64: I've been at this for 5 hours!!!!
[03:22] <MrKB> kdirstat RoDiMuS-X
[03:22] <Dr_willis> THE_GFR|WORK,  non gui apps - use rc.local as was said earlier
[03:22] <Ben64> Saiki: maybe, but sometimes there are issues
[03:22] <RoDiMuS-X> Thanks MrKB
[03:22] <varunendra> THE_GFR|WORK, add the script's name (or program's name) to the /etc/rc.local file
[03:22] <MrKB> np
[03:22] <THE_GFR|WORK> Dr_willis: I don't get it!!
[03:22] <Dr_willis> THE_GFR|WORK,  GUI apps. use the autostart directory in the users home
[03:22] <THE_GFR|WORK> Dr_willis: what do I put in rc.local?
[03:22] <Dr_willis> THE_GFR|WORK,  look at the file /etc/rc.local
[03:22] <Ben64> THE_GFR|WORK: what are you trying to start on boot?
[03:22] <Dr_willis> THE_GFR|WORK,  you gave no details.. so whatever command does what you want to start at bootup...
[03:22] <THE_GFR|WORK> Ben64: just a program that has to run at root
[03:22] <Saiki> Ben64: any idea how to install rom cd on command line?
[03:23] <THE_GFR|WORK> Dr_willis: is there a file in there?
[03:23] <Dr_willis> THE_GFR|WORK,  rc.local is ALL ran as root.
[03:23] <Dr_willis> THE_GFR|WORK,  LOOK and see..
[03:23] <Dr_willis> it IS a file
[03:23] <THE_GFR|WORK> Dr_willis: all the scripts in there?
[03:23] <Ben64> Saiki: you can use the alternate cd, its a cli installer
[03:23] <Dr_willis> read it and its contents
[03:23] <THE_GFR|WORK> ok
[03:23] <THE_GFR|WORK> Dr_willis: I looked
[03:23] <Ben64> THE_GFR|WORK: what program is it? stop being so vague
[03:24] <pvs_> I used the wget and result error 404
[03:24] <varunendra> MrKB, so where are we? You have a multitude of options to try (if you are crazy enough like me..) : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common_Kernel_Options
[03:25] <MrKB> lol
[03:25] <MrKB> can't I try the, all at once?
[03:25] <MrKB> did you read my last message about Ctrl+Alt+F1? (is there a name for that mode BTW?)
[03:25] <varunendra> MrKB, keep a bucket full of water ready to throw on the system, if you try that ;P
[03:25] <MrKB> lol
[03:26] <Dr_willis> MrKB,  those are the CONSOLES and should be showing a simple Text LOGIN: prompt
[03:26] <xormor> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRtksqB0nrU&list=PLB33261883CCB0B9E
[03:26] <Saiki> Ben64: but can that be done from the live cd?
[03:26] <THE_GFR|WORK> Dr_willis: thanks I'll see if this works :)
[03:26] <Ben64> Saiki: i don't think so
[03:26] <xormor> I can't join IRCNet, invalid username.
[03:26] <varunendra> MrKB, yes they are called virtual tty's (tty 1 to 6, 7 returns to desktop)
[03:26] <xormor> there are no channels #hiphop and #hiphop.fi on this network.
[03:27] <varunendra> oops Dr_willis gave better answer before me :P, MrKB
[03:27] <Dr_willis> xormor,  perhaps ask in a general IRC support channel.
[03:27] <Dr_willis> xormor,  and check the ircnet web site
[03:27] <xormor> Dr_willis, ok...
[03:28] <xormor> Dr_willis, I think I am not K-Lined or G-Lined, and I am not even banned on any or many of those channels.
[03:28] <husnainlatif> is this a known bug: http://i.imgur.com/9zuuk6Z.png
[03:28] <MrKB> Dr_willis: when I used Console-1 before, it just showed me a terminal-looking screen. no login prompt (I'm running a live install atm)
[03:28] <MrKB> now it's showing fail
[03:28] <MrKB> need to reboot I guess? try new boot options?
[03:29] <varunendra> MrKB, missed the earlier message you referred to. But that indicates a messed up graphics in my opinion.
[03:29] <MrKB> Ctrl+Alt+F1 yields a weird page. all black with green flashing squares on it
[03:29] <MrKB> that's the message
[03:29] <MrKB> but yeah, that makes sense
[03:30] <MrKB> seeing as how the only thing we really changed was the vga option
[03:30] <MrKB> time to reboot :)
[03:30] <varunendra> MrKB, yes, that happens with a misconfigured graphics or a memory issue.
[03:30] <MrKB> ok
[03:31] <MrKB> ok so what options to try now?
[03:31] <MrKB> nomodeset and some other vga number?
[03:31] <kostkon> husnainlatif, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-bluetooth/+bug/1148033
[03:31] <MrKB> should I try enabling acpi=off again?
[03:31] <MrKB> maybe that caused the visual glitch?
[03:31] <varunendra> MrKB, don't try nomodeset and vga simultaneously
[03:31] <MrKB> ok
[03:32] <varunendra> acpi=off, nolapic, vga=<different mode>
[03:32] <MrKB> 802?
[03:32] <varunendra> MrKB, it's basically a try and error thing. Nothing is guaranteed to work :(
[03:33] <varunendra> sounds good.
[03:33] <MrKB> ok
[03:33] <MrKB> here we go!
[03:33] <husnainlatif> kostkon, is there an easy solution?
[03:33] <MrKB> acpi=off, nolapic and vga=802
[03:33] <varunendra> with fingers and toes crossed again ?
[03:33] <MrKB> lol indeed
[03:33] <MrKB> hopefully I get a useable tty1 at least so i can do the md5 check
[03:33] <MrKB> and then proceed
[03:34] <kostkon> husnainlatif, you could try this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-bluetooth/+bug/1148033/comments/9  according to this comment it will magically work after installing blueman
[03:34] <MrKB> I feel like we're in russian dolls
[03:34] <MrKB> every problem gives us another one
[03:34] <kostkon> husnainlatif, it will start working after installing blueman
[03:34] <MrKB> and as we solve one, we come out of one russian doll lol
[03:34] <husnainlatif> i'm gonna try it
[03:35] <varunendra> MrKB, got another one? :P
[03:35] <varunendra> the problem?
[03:35] <MrKB> no, I'm just saying XD
[03:35] <varunendra> :D
[03:35] <silv3r_m00n1> i put , ip  domain_name  www.domain_name  in /etc/hosts   on ping domain_name    the ip is pinged, on ping www.domain_name         the real ip from dns is pinged and not the hosts file ip ........ how to fix ?
[03:35] <MrKB> desktop is still a visual fail
[03:35] <MrKB> tty1 is good though
[03:35] <MrKB> time to try mda check
[03:36] <MrKB> md5
[03:36] <MrKB> [10:59:26 PM] <syntroPi> MrKB, its "md5sum -c md5sum.txt" in the root dir of your iso contents
[03:36] <husnainlatif> kostkon,  should i apt-get install blueman?
[03:36] <MrKB> how do I get to the correct dir to pull this off? :-\
[03:36] <kostkon> husnainlatif, yes
[03:36] <husnainlatif> okay thanks
[03:39] <varunendra> MrKB, maybe /cdrom ? If "ls /cdrom" returns the iso contents.
[03:39] <MrKB> yep that worked
[03:39] <MrKB> I think they all say OK
[03:39] <MrKB> but I can't see the entire list XD
[03:39] <MrKB> but the ones I can see say OK
[03:40] <MrKB> can I pipe that command to pastebinit?
[03:40] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769772
[03:40] <varunendra> maybe you can pipe the output to "less" to see entire output. MrKB
[03:40] <MrKB> that would be a yes lol
[03:40] <MrKB> less?
[03:40] <HelloWorld321> Is it okay to load Unity2D on 12.10?
[03:41] <varunendra> like "a command | less"
[03:41] <MrKB> what does that do
[03:41] <MrKB> but doesn't matter, I piped it to pastebinit
[03:41] <MrKB> it passed
[03:41] <MrKB> so the Ubuntu on my USB drive is fine
[03:41] <varunendra> Hmm... all ok there.
[03:41] <MrKB> yep :)
[03:42] <MrKB> how do I get out of less lol
[03:42] <varunendra> MrKB, where did it get stuck while installation btw ?
[03:42] <varunendra> oh "Q"
[03:42] <MrKB> thanks
[03:42] <MrKB> I didn't try to install
[03:43] <MrKB> wanted to get wifi working before
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> HelloWorld321, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE2MTQ
[03:43] <MrKB> ok so where did we leave off? XD
[03:43] <MrKB> trying something with swept and restarting some services, IIRC
[03:43] <varunendra> That's a real pain if the usual suspects don't work (the wifi). MrKB
[03:43] <MrKB> (we just came out two russian dolls. md5 check and visual glitches on my TTY)
[03:43] <husnainlatif> kostkon, it worked
[03:44] <kostkon> husnainlatif, nice
[03:44] <MrKB> well let's try the whole swept thing again
[03:44] <HelloWorld321> tx wilee-nilee
[03:44] <MrKB> and the restarting services
[03:45] <MrKB> we didn't get to finish all that, varunendra.
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[03:45] <MrKB> restarting the network manager kinda blew up in my face remember? XD
[03:45] <varunendra> MrKB, "swenc=Y", but it didn't work. We can start analysing the dmesg and syslog thing. But that may be too tedious for IRC.
[03:45] <MrKB> right right
[03:45] <MrKB> is there a way to turn on a vnc server through CLI?
[03:45] <MrKB> I'll let you in and you can do it :P
[03:46] <varunendra> So... we can try without "service network-manager restart" this time.
[03:46] <MrKB> ok that's fine
[03:46] <MrKB> so what was the command again
[03:46] <MrKB> before the service restarts
[03:46] <varunendra> MrKB, hehe.. I'm on a super, blazing fast "GPRS" connection ;P
[03:46] <MrKB> oh God O_O
[03:46] <MrKB> how and why
[03:47] <varunendra> takes just a couple of minutes to open a few KBs ;)
[03:47] <MrKB> how do I get the wifi list to update with new APs
[03:47] <MrKB> not seeing my home AP
[03:47] <varunendra> MrKB, that's the only connection type we have available where I live.
[03:47] <MrKB> I see
[03:47] <MrKB> you should move
[03:47] <varunendra> sudo iwlist scan
[03:47] <MrKB> that's no way to use the internet
[03:48] <MrKB> yeah it's still not connecting
[03:48] <varunendra> MrKB, to scan your ap "sudo iwlist scan"
[03:48] <MrKB> got it
[03:48] <varunendra> does it show the ap?
[03:48] <MrKB> yeah
[03:49] <MrKB> let's do the swenc thing and then monitoring syslog
[03:49] <MrKB> feed me commands my master
[03:49] <HelloWorld321> unity_support_test says "GLX is not available on the system".  How do I make GLX available on the system to unity_support_test?
[03:50] <varunendra> MrKB, as soon as it fails to connect, run these two immediately - "dmesg | tail -40 > dmesg.txt" and "cat /var/log/syslog | tail -40 > syslog.txt"
[03:50] <varunendra> I hope to see some clues in them
[03:51] <MrKB> ok
[03:51] <MrKB> what's "as soon as it fails to connect"? When it finishes trying to connect (or what I assume is "trying to connect", which is the WiFi symbol flashing) and it pops up a message saying "You are now offline" or something along those lines/
[03:52] <varunendra> When it tries then as soon as it gives up.
[03:52] <MrKB> ok
[03:53] <MrKB> can I run the commands now so I have them in my history? or will that mess up the logs?
[03:53] <varunendra> MrKB, by the way, the commands for swenc option were - "sudo modprobe -rfv rtl8192cu" then.. "sudo modprobe -v rtl8192cu swenc=Y"
[03:53] <MrKB> want me to run those now too?
[03:54] <MrKB> before the logs
[03:54] <varunendra> MrKB, those commands would have created two txt files in your home.
[03:54] <varunendra> no that was just informatory (note it down)
[03:54] <MrKB> but if I run them again, will it add to those two longs or rewrite \them?
[03:54] <varunendra> MrKB, I need to see those text files now (the log outputs)
[03:55] <varunendra> it will overwrite them
[03:55] <MrKB> ok
[03:55] <MrKB> that's what I needed to know, if it would overwrite them
[03:55] <MrKB> so I'm gonna run them now, just to have them on my history of commands
[03:55] <MrKB> and then I'll do it for real
[03:55] <MrKB> (enables me to do it way faster)
[03:55] <varunendra> :)
[03:56] <MrKB> permission denied on that first one
[03:56] <varunendra> without sudo?
[03:56] <MrKB> dmesg | tail -40 > dmesg.txt
[03:56] <MrKB> yeah, no sudo
[03:56] <varunendra> oh that doesn't need sudo
[03:56] <MrKB> I didn't use sudo. :P
[03:56] <MrKB> so why permission denied? :-\
[03:57] <varunendra> another issue :(
[03:57] <MrKB> stupid russian dolls
[03:57] <varunendra> ls -l
[03:57] <varunendra> is the file read-only?
[03:57] <MrKB> what file is it
[03:57] <varunendra> dmesg.txt
[03:58] <MrKB> it's not there
[03:58] <MrKB> this was my first time trying the command
[03:58] <varunendra> well, it means you can't create a file in your own Home!
[03:58] <MrKB> and why is that? :-\
[03:58] <MrKB> it worked before with wireless-info.. :-\
[03:59] <MrKB> so can I just pipe it to pastebinit instead of a file?
[03:59] <MrKB> dmesg | tail -40 | pastebinit ?
[03:59] <varunendra> sure. But that would assume a working internet connection
[03:59] <MrKB> right...
[03:59] <MrKB> -_-
[03:59] <varunendra> while you have to run it immediately when the connection fails :(
[04:00] <MrKB> can I send you a pic of the result of ls -l?
[04:00] <varunendra> can you really not create a file in your home? Try "touch tmpfile"
[04:00] <MrKB> maybe you can see some dir there that I can write to
[04:00] <MrKB> denied
[04:00] <MrKB> on that touch tmpfile
[04:01] <MrKB> I can do touch tmp though. didn't return anything
[04:01] <varunendra> try "touch Desktop/tmpfile"
[04:01] <MrKB> no such file or directory
[04:01] <MrKB> isn't it home?
[04:01] <MrKB> touch home/tmpfile permission denied
[04:02] <varunendra> What is your terminal prompt?
[04:02] <MrKB> ubuntu@ubuntu:/$
[04:02] <varunendra> that's okay.
[04:02] <MrKB> do I need to elevate myself to root?
[04:02] <varunendra> Shouldn't be needed. but yes you could (sudo su)
[04:02] <MrKB> ok
[04:02] <MrKB> now I'm root@ubuntu:/#
[04:03] <MrKB> now I lost my command history -_-
[04:03]  * MrKB scrolls up
[04:03] <varunendra> because you are using "root's" history now.
[04:04] <MrKB> both commands worked that time :)
[04:04]  * MrKB was half-expecting root to be broken too
[04:04] <MrKB> ok so
[04:04] <MrKB> gonna run them while it's trying to connect and then again when it stops trying?
[04:04] <MrKB> won't it overwrite the files though?
[04:05] <MrKB> I can change the filenames when I run it a second time if that's the case
[04:05] <varunendra> nou, you are in root's directory now. and besides it doesn't matter
[04:05] <varunendra> you have to run those two as soon as it gives up
[04:05] <MrKB> oh ok
[04:06] <MrKB> [12:05:18 AM] <varunendra> nou, you are in root's directory now. <-- why does that matter?
[04:06] <varunendra> you said "it will overwrite the files" I thought you were worried about any previous ones (in Ubuntu's home). Got it wrong, I know :/
[04:07] <MrKB> this would have been an issue before anyway :P
[04:07] <MrKB> since you were wanting me to run the commands twice back then too
[04:08] <varunendra> MrKB, all I need is to look at the logs AFTER it fails to connect. Just go ahead with whatever way suits you to show it to us.
[04:08] <MrKB> so ok I'll do dmesg.txt and syslog.txt for when it's attempting to connect and dmesg2.txt and syslog2.txt for when it gives up
[04:08] <MrKB> oh
[04:08] <MrKB> I thought you needed both
[04:08] <varunendra> nou, not when attempting to connect (although it will help, but I hope it will be included in the messages when it gives up)
[04:09] <MrKB> ok
[04:09] <MrKB> I'm thinking of having the commands queued up in two different ttys
[04:09] <MrKB> will that work?
[04:10] <varunendra> good idea. Although over kill IMO :P
[04:10] <MrKB> or will switching between ttys get logged somewhere and possibly ruin the logs?
[04:10] <MrKB> well I want to make sure yuo get what you need :P
[04:10] <MrKB> you*
[04:10] <MrKB> ah screw it. one tty it is
[04:10] <varunendra> 40 lines should be plenty to cover important messages.
[04:10] <MrKB> ok
[04:10] <varunendra> once you have them, you can connect to the other ap and upload their contents.
[04:11] <MrKB> that was the plan :P
[04:11] <MrKB> how do I do that though?
[04:12] <SPV2008> I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 (upgraded today, but still had the problem with 12.10) and my touch pad keeps not responding to clicks (tapping or clicking the buttons), it will respond to moving the cursor, but not actually clicking it. Can anyone help?
[04:12] <varunendra> MrKB, The dmesg and syslog commands should save the relevant log messages in text file. Then just connect as you normally do and upload them?
[04:13] <reisio> SPV2008: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[04:13] <MrKB> how to upload from text files was my question
[04:13]  * MrKB is a linux and CLI n00b
[04:13] <MrKB> i'm guessing using some type of open command and pipe it to pastebinit
[04:14] <varunendra> MrKB, "cat dmesg.txt | pastebinit"
[04:14] <MrKB> btw when it fails to connect, it reverts to my phone's AP right away
[04:14] <varunendra> Not a prob.
[04:14] <MrKB> so I could have piped the commands straight to paste bin :P
[04:15] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769831
[04:15] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769832
[04:15] <varunendra> Maybe, if it connects instantly
[04:15] <SuperLag> MrKB: one word of warning... don't send a text file to a pastebin that contains sensitive info, like username/password credentials
[04:15] <MrKB> it shouldn't have any of those things. it's a live instance of ubuntu trying to connect to an open AP
[04:15] <MrKB> but thanks SuperLag :)
[04:17] <SuperLag> MrKB: I know what you're telling them to paste doesn't have sensitive info... but that mistake has been made before. (raising my hand) :(
[04:17] <varunendra> MrKB, unfortunately, the messages are from a successful attempt with the other ap :(
[04:17] <MrKB> damnit O_O
[04:17] <MrKB> ok how do I make it "forget" the other AP
[04:18] <MrKB> I'll re do
[04:18] <varunendra> Maybe we need to make it 80 instead of 40? and yes, do pay attention to what SuperLag cautioned about. :)
[04:18]  * SuperLag wonders how long paste.ubuntu.com keeps history. :/
[04:19] <MrKB> I don't know. tell me when this incident was and I'll go check the pastebin ;P
[04:19] <varunendra> you can also just disable the other ap for the time being.
[04:19] <MrKB> [12:19:03 AM] <varunendra> you can also just disable the other ap for the time being. <-- too much work
[04:19] <varunendra> agree.
[04:19] <SuperLag>  MrKB: that's the only thing that's kept me sane, is that I realized what I had done.... and never published the URL
[04:19] <MrKB> damnit, it connected again
[04:19] <MrKB> ok fine, turning off AP
[04:20] <MrKB> what did you throw on the pastebin SuperLag
[04:20] <SuperLag> MrKB: varunendra: I was trying to get help with mutt, and pasted my .muttrc.... which had my creds for my work email on there
[04:20] <varunendra> MrKB, you can change 40 to a larger number.
[04:20] <MrKB> it's fine
[04:20] <MrKB> turning off other AP is not that hard
[04:20] <MrKB> it's just a click away on my phone lol
[04:20] <varunendra> SuperLag, I wish I had been there (but you didn't publish it then.. :/)
[04:21] <MrKB> want me to raise it to 80 lines anyway varunendra?
[04:21] <sere> MrKB: whats your andriodAP?
[04:21] <MrKB> the stock one
[04:21] <SuperLag> varunendra: I've tried to find out if someone could delete it for me
[04:21] <varunendra> MrKB, yeah, makes more sense now.
[04:21] <sere> MrKB: I didnt know adriod made access point :)
[04:21] <varunendra> raise it to 80
[04:22] <MrKB> sere - virtualAP -_-
[04:22] <sere> MrKB: oh ok
[04:22] <MrKB> it's part of the OS
[04:22] <MrKB> since like 2.3.7
[04:23] <MrKB> it's just that manufacturers and carriers remove it or hide it
[04:23] <MrKB> so people don't tether-crazy
[04:23] <sere> MrKB: i thought you might have been using your phone or something else :)
[04:23] <MrKB> wait, what?
[04:23] <MrKB> I am using my phone
[04:23] <MrKB> that's the AP this Ubuntu box is connecting to
[04:24] <MrKB> varunendra - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769842
[04:24] <zorad> all Brazil?
[04:24] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769847
[04:24] <sere> MrKB: oh ok cool :) I love my driod, you can do so much with them
[04:24] <MrKB> yep :)
[04:25] <MrKB> [12:21:45 AM] <sere> MrKB: I didnt know adriod made access point :) <-- I thought you were trying to be a smartass
[04:25] <MrKB> sorry lol
[04:25] <Guest69990> Hello
[04:25] <aeon-ltd> !brazil | zorad
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[04:25] <SuperLag> varunendra: ugh... I see stuff still on paste.ubuntu.com from February. :(
[04:25] <zorad> tanks
[04:26] <MrKB> how do you browse the pastebin? >:)
[04:26] <varunendra> me wonders too :P
[04:28] <SuperLag> :(
[04:28] <MrKB> SuperLag - that should make you feel better. not everyone knows how to browse through it
[04:28] <SuperLag> it's not rocket science
[04:28] <MrKB> but still, not everyone knows how to
[04:28] <MrKB> also what are the odds someone runs into yours?
[04:28] <MrKB> also, change your credentials. ta-da!
[04:29] <MrKB> how's it looking varunendra?
[04:29] <varunendra> MrKB, your wireless is successfully connecting to the ap "Light", but is not getting IP from it. Is DHCP enabled on it?
[04:30] <MrKB> yes
[04:30] <MrKB> and no MAC address filtering
[04:30] <MrKB> maybe my router is racist <.<
[04:30] <tr0n> dont irc as root
[04:30] <varunendra> Perhaps :P
[04:30] <SuperLag> MrKB: I did that *IMMEDIATELY*.
[04:30] <MrKB> varunendra - PM you the info to my control panel
[04:31] <MrKB> SuperLag - then what's the worry? just embarassment?
[04:31] <SuperLag> MrKB: yes, extreme
[04:31] <varunendra> MrKB, make sure that IPv6 is set to "Ignore" in Network Manager for that connection.
[04:31] <MrKB> in Ubuntu?
[04:31] <varunendra> What pm? Yes in ubuntu
[04:31] <MrKB> how do I do that? (CLI please)
[04:31] <MrKB> I was asking if you wanted me to PM you it
[04:31] <varunendra> Oooh you'r not in GUI?
[04:31] <MrKB> so you can look at my settings
[04:32] <MrKB> yes I'm in GUI
[04:32] <MrKB> but it's all retarded remember?
[04:32] <varunendra> not recommended and not required (pm)
[04:32] <MrKB> ok
[04:32] <MrKB> one less thing I need to do. (turn on remote management on my router's control panel) :P
[04:33] <varunendra> let me dig out a post of mine to tell you the command line. (better)
[04:33] <MrKB> ok
[04:33] <KrisHansen> I am still having a ton of weird internet activity on my pc, i have done screen capture and nothing seems to be going on. but whenever i click the wi fi logo and disconnect. my other devices on that wi fi work ok again. why cant Ubuntu share my internet with my iPhones like windows could only last week = not a hardware or any other explanation. something inside of Ubuntu is working overtime on my wi fi . what is it ?
[04:33] <MrKB> you sure you don't want to look through my router's control panel? you might see a setting that's causing it not to give an IP to the Ubuntu install
[04:34] <SuperLag> MrKB: you *say* that you're new to Linux and CLI... but you don't talk as if you are. :)
[04:35] <MrKB> I am lol
[04:35] <MrKB> What am I saying that says otherwise
[04:35] <MrKB> I'm not new to CLI, but I'm in no way well-versed in it. Linux I'm definitely new to.
[04:35] <varunendra> MrKB, you should never trust someone you don't know so much to give them access to your router.
[04:35] <MrKB> I'm just knowledable about computers SuperLag
[04:35] <KrisHansen> I actually purged Wireshark , i hate that app. I had an app on my Mac Mini called Little Snitch. that thing was a live packet capture that was worth the money for it . for real
[04:36] <MrKB> varunendra - you've spent the past couple of hours troubleshooting my problems. i think you're ok
[04:36] <MrKB> plus I can just as easily turn off remote management or worse comes to worse, re-flash the firmware and be done with it :P
[04:36] <MrKB> worst**
[04:36] <varunendra> May be I'm just trying to win your trust to misuse it? :D
[04:37] <MrKB> yes because people offer up access to their routers all the time
[04:37] <KrisHansen> what about NetTools for Ubuntu ? why does wireshark suck so bad ?
[04:37] <MrKB> No one's that trusting
[04:37] <varunendra> Anyway, MrKB , here's an alternate way to turn IPv6 off : "echo -e "\n# disable IPv6\nnet.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1\nnet.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6=1\nnet.ipv6.conf.lo.disable_ipv6=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf"
[04:37] <Dr_willis> KrisHansen,  ask in the wireshark channel perhaps?
[04:37] <MrKB> Jesus. I'm having to type all that. fuuuuuu
[04:38] <varunendra> :D
[04:38] <kumarat9pm1> hi, I have some frequent WIFI disconnections.. in one of my laptop connected to router. I have other laptop which never disconnects..
[04:38] <kumarat9pm1> Any suggetions?
[04:38] <Ben64> KrisHansen: wireshark works fine
[04:38] <KrisHansen> Dr_willis: lol, i just cant seem to figure out what is blasting my wi fi all to hell even when Firefox and everything on my desktop is closed , Ubuntu is still deraining my wi fi and nothing is showing up on my live packet capture , what the hell is going on , i know its Ubuntu because when i disconnect from the router, my iphones can use the wi fi full force again ? what the hell is this ?
[04:39] <varunendra> MrKB, there is a way to do exactly what you'd do with nm in gui, but that is a risky command (actually the output, it contains sensitive data)
[04:39] <tr0n> call ur isp's tech support, shounds like its ur router
[04:40] <KrisHansen> Ben64: I hate it , because it is not user friendly and i dont understand the whole run from root /gksudo whatever ... man this Ubuntu thing is hard work for real .
[04:40] <Ben64> KrisHansen: it's really not difficult
[04:40] <Dr_willis> KrisHansen,  could be a bug with the wifi chipsets driver. try some differnt disrtos, and kernel versiond and see if its the same in all of them as a test.
[04:40] <KrisHansen> tr0n: not my router read my first post =not a hardware issue
[04:40] <varunendra> MrKB, Can you give us an IP that you are sure is available on your router (not in dhcp pool)
[04:40] <varunendra> and not taken by another device on the network
[04:40] <MrKB> yeah sure
[04:40] <varunendra> we can try that.
[04:40] <MrKB> but hold on a sec, let me try this
[04:40] <Dr_willis> You dont understand run from root/gksudo?    err.. users are locked down to things they should be allowed to do.. root can do anything. :)
[04:41] <MrKB> echo -e "\n# disable IPv6\nnet.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1\nnet.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6=1\nnet.ipv6.conf.lo.disable_ipv6=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/sysctl.conf
[04:41] <KrisHansen> Dr_willis: hmmm. well i did try 13.04 and then i sudo apt-get install lubuntu desktop over the 13.04 install , and nothing
[04:41] <MrKB> I'm typing it in just like that?
[04:41] <MrKB> all one command?
[04:41] <Dr_willis> 'and nothing'  meaning?
[04:41] <KrisHansen> Dr_willis: no i get it , but its a lot of work is all .
[04:41] <Dr_willis> KrisHansen,  Cant say i find it much work at all...
[04:41] <KrisHansen> Dr_willis: no change i mean . still drains my wi fi , i wonder if its the driver for my wi fi card ?
[04:42] <varunendra> MrKB, yes, that's one command. We can split it if you wish
[04:42] <MrKB> no it's fine
[04:42] <KrisHansen> I am currently using a propeitary driver for my si fi could be the issue ?
[04:42] <MrKB> done
[04:42] <Dr_willis> KrisHansen,  see what module the wifi card is using and what kernel versions you are using, then try a radically differnt disrto  like tinycore linux, or slitax to see if it affects other versions
[04:42] <MrKB> it listed 3 entries, all have =1
[04:42] <varunendra> MrKB, that's fine then
[04:42] <KrisHansen> Dr_willis: okay , that is the best explanation i have heard yet , even though i am not going to do that now , i will keep that in mind thank you .
[04:42]  * MrKB tries to connect to Light again
[04:43] <MrKB> doesn't seem to be working, but I'll wait a bit
[04:43] <varunendra> now you can check "ifconfig -a" to make sure IPv6 is not in it.
[04:43] <Ben64> KrisHansen: does it happen if you connect with ethernet?
[04:43] <MrKB> [12:39:00 AM] <varunendra> MrKB, there is a way to do exactly what you'd do with nm in gui, but that is a risky command (actually the output, it contains sensitive data) <-- Hm?
[04:43] <MrKB> isn't nm already gui
[04:43] <MrKB> ?
[04:43] <varunendra> MrKB, yes. But we can change its settings (all of them) from cli
[04:44] <MrKB> didn't work btw. reconnected to AndroidAP
[04:44] <KrisHansen> Ben64: havent tried that as i , well have not tried that yet , have no ethernet cable right now , should try that though and only run the i devices wirelessly and keep my pc wired up to my router , good idea , i should go get a cheap ehternet cable today and try that thank you
[04:44] <varunendra> as anticipated. What is the IP that is available ?
[04:44] <MrKB> oh so that's what you were saying? that we can change nm settings through CLI but that the ouput would have sensitive data?
[04:44] <varunendra> yes
[04:44] <MrKB> .101
[04:45] <MrKB> what sensitive data could it possibly have? XD
[04:45] <viva> hi
[04:45] <varunendra> MrKB, your saved wifi password (besides your mac id, which you are already sharing with us here)
[04:46] <MrKB> there's no saved wifi passwords
[04:46] <MrKB> I opened up both APs before even booting into this liveUSB for the first time
[04:46] <MrKB> but ok
[04:46] <MrKB> next step, here we come
[04:47] <varunendra> MrKB, disable your android ap, then try - "sudo ifconfig wlan0 xx.xx.xx.101" (where xx.xx.... is the IP pattern applicable to your network)
[04:47] <varunendra> Then try to connect again.
[04:47] <MrKB> ok
[04:48] <varunendra> MrKB, create (only) the syslog again if it fails again. Then post it back.
[04:48] <MrKB> ok
[04:48] <varunendra> Oh, MrKB you may have to do "sudo ifconfig wlan0 down" before trying the IP addressing one.
[04:48] <MrKB> ok
[04:49] <zorad> quit
[04:49] <MrKB> it threw up 3 lines when I did the second command (the one with the IP)
[04:49] <seratwo> hi there, fresh install of ubuntu, pc is running really slowly. Noticed in `top -i` that there are three processes called `ps` which are using 100% of 3/4 cores of my machine. Last i checked ps was used to monitor processes not process anything. I can't kill them using `killall ps`, `sudo killall ps` or `sudo kill - 9 <pid>`.
[04:49] <MrKB> one of them looks like an error
[04:50] <MrKB> wlan0: link is not ready
[04:50] <MrKB> what do you think varunendra
[04:50] <varunendra> check "ifconfig -a" MrKB
[04:50] <varunendra> does it show the IP we just assigned?
[04:51] <MrKB> yes, for wlan0
[04:51] <varunendra> Subnet mask is okay?
[04:51] <MrKB> yes
[04:51] <MrKB> it failed, syslog pastebin url forthcoming
[04:53] <MrKB> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769890
[04:53] <varunendra> hmm.. funny that you are able to pass the difficult stage (authentication > association) but can't get IP :/
[04:53] <MrKB> yeah :-\
[04:54] <MrKB> SuperLag - why does it sound like I know what I'm talking about? You didn't say XD
[04:55] <varunendra> MrKB, looks like avahi-daemon is still messing with IPv6 :(
[04:55] <MrKB> fudge
[04:55] <MrKB> just did that long IPv6 command again
[04:56] <MrKB> let me type up what it outputs
[04:56] <MrKB> # disable IPv6
[04:56] <MrKB> net.ipv6.cong.all.disable_ipv6=1
[04:56] <MrKB> net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6=1
[04:56] <MrKB> net.ipv6.cong.lo.disable_ipv6=1
[04:56] <MrKB> that's it
[04:57] <MrKB> so it looks to be fine :-\
[04:57] <SuperLag> MrKB: you're asking intelligent questions, capable of carrying on intelligent conversation, and not afraid to dig in and get your hands dirty with this stuff
[04:57] <MrKB> maybe that last one lol
[04:57] <varunendra> MrKB, now the "risky" command - "sudo cat /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Light" (assuming the connection is saved with name "Light")
[04:58] <MrKB> which it should be
[04:58] <MrKB> thanks for the compliment SuperLag :D
[04:58] <varunendra> MrKB, you are intelligent, no doubt in that :)
[04:58] <MrKB> why thank you :D
[04:58] <MrKB> ipv6 method is set to auto
[04:59] <MrKB> so is ipv4
[04:59] <KrisHansen> so I am about to go buy an ethernet cable, it is correct to say that in theory I can connect my laptop to my router via ethernet and then disable wi fi on my laptop, enabling all my i devices to use the routers wi fi seperatley ?
[04:59] <MrKB> do you need me to pipe the output to pastebinit?
[04:59] <varunendra> MrKB, hmm.. let me try a few things here first, then I'll give you commands to change it.
[04:59] <MrKB> ok
[04:59] <MrKB> thanks :D
[05:00]  * MrKB wonders about these intelligent questions SuperLag is talking about
[05:00] <MrKB> my questions are based on whatever the consequences were to whatever command I was told to input into CLI
[05:00] <MrKB> which doesn't seem to smart to me :P
[05:01] <MrKB> but again, I appreciate the compliment
[05:01] <KrisHansen> what Java should i install for web browsing ?
[05:01] <MrKB> none O_o
[05:01] <MrKB> I only install Java if I run into a website that needs it
[05:01] <MrKB> which is almost never in my case
[05:01] <MrKB> and then I uninstall it when I'm done lol
[05:01] <kostkon> KrisHansen, openjdk7 and icedtea plugin
[05:02] <KrisHansen> what is causing my pc to act slowly on some websites ? do i need some Java, does the iced tea plugin run Java automatically or do  i need to set it up somehow ?
[05:02] <reisio> Java™ will definitely make anything slower
[05:02] <varunendra> MrKB, try this "sudo sed -i '/ipv6/,$ s:method=auto:method=ignore:' /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Light"
[05:03] <KrisHansen> reisio: so Java will make my pc run more slowly ?
[05:03] <MrKB> ok varunendra
[05:03] <MrKB> yes KrisHansen
[05:03] <varunendra> Ignore the enclosing double-quotes, but make sure the single quotes are in place, MrKB
[05:03] <MrKB> thats why I keep it uninstalled
[05:03] <MrKB> yes varunendra
[05:03] <KrisHansen> MrKB: ok i just uninstalled all Java iced tea related software
[05:04] <kostkon> KrisHansen, i think the culprit is flash, i.e. flash ads rather than java
[05:04] <reisio> KrisHansen: for sure
[05:04] <KrisHansen> so what codecs do i need to make web browsing faster , i already have flash plugin Adobe latest , are there others ?
[05:04] <reisio> KrisHansen: those won't make browser faster
[05:05] <MrKB> uninstall Flash XD
[05:05] <kostkon> KrisHansen, you may find the following firefox extensions useful: adblock and/or flashblock
[05:05] <reisio> they'll just give you a specific type of access to a specific set of media
[05:05] <MrKB> I would say both kostkon
[05:05] <MrKB> plus a good HOSTS file
[05:05] <reisio> I use CTRL+w instead of adblock
[05:05] <MrKB> varunendra - now what? It didn't give out any output btw
[05:05] <kostkon> MrKB, yeah, probably
[05:05] <MrKB> lol reisio
[05:05] <varunendra> MrKB, when the above is done, do - "sudo ifconfig wlan0 down" then "sudo ifconfig wlan0 xx.xx.xx.101" again
[05:05] <Guest93466> Hey guys -  the other day someone here kindly helped me figure out a way to get the features of UbuntuStudio for Ubuntu - one of the things I was told was I needed to be a member of audio group and I gave was given this to type in terminal: sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER - when I did, it spat this back at me:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769898/  .... now, my question is - what do I do here... I was uncertain if the Username/account
[05:05] <Guest93466> was automatically created or if I needed to choose something from the options listed.
[05:05] <MrKB> will do varunendra
[05:05] <KrisHansen> so certain websites have a lot of Flash content that slow me down? and i want to run adblock and flashblock then ?
[05:05] <Guest93466> Anything you guys could provide moe on that would be amazing, im stuck waiting in terminal to make my movie.
[05:05] <Guest93466> *move
[05:05] <MrKB> hm...
[05:05] <varunendra> Oh, MrKB check the previous command again for checking NM settings
[05:06] <MrKB> I didn't get an ouput out of wlan0 down either
[05:06] <MrKB> that's not normal
[05:06] <MrKB> and my prompt is different!
[05:06] <MrKB> it just shows >
[05:06] <MrKB> no root@ubuntu and such
[05:06] <MrKB> hax!!
[05:06] <MrKB> wtf is happening lol
[05:06] <varunendra> means you are missing an enclosing single quote or something in the original command :)
[05:07] <varunendra> the sed one
[05:07] <MrKB> nope
[05:07] <MrKB> I wrote this:
[05:07] <SuperLag> kostkon: KrisHansen: for Flash, I stick with Chrome.
[05:08] <MrKB> sudo sed -i '/ipv6/,$ s:method=auto:method=ignore:' /etc/NetworkManager/system-connection/Light
[05:08] <MrKB> oh fudge
[05:08] <MrKB> i think I put " at the end after Light
[05:08] <MrKB> what now O_O
[05:08] <FloodBot1> MrKB: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:08] <varunendra> ;)
[05:08] <KrisHansen> So having the latest Flash plugin is not the issue , i need to add flashblock and adblock , so how to add these extensions ? and would i be better off running chromium ?
[05:08] <MrKB> shut up FloodBot1
[05:08] <MrKB> people run Chromium?
[05:08] <varunendra> Ctrl + C > retry, MrKB
[05:08] <MrKB> thanks
[05:08] <SuperLag> MrKB: yessir
[05:09] <MrKB> got no output this time either
[05:09] <MrKB> for the sed
[05:09] <varunendra> you won't
[05:09] <MrKB> oh ok
[05:10] <varunendra> just check "cat /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Light"
[05:10] <varunendra> to confirm that IPv6 is set to "Ignore" now.
[05:10] <MrKB> ok varunendra - did down and then .101
[05:10] <Fudge> MrKB ?
[05:11] <MrKB> saying fudge instead of f00k, Fudge. Sorry
[05:11] <varunendra> now retry to connect, and post back the syslog if fail
[05:11] <sere> KrisHansen: are you using firefox?
[05:11] <MrKB> I got some extra lines from the last time I did that command a little while back. Is that normal varunendra
[05:11] <MrKB> they are both set to ignore now, IPv6 and v4
[05:12] <varunendra> Umm... depends on what it did last time
[05:12] <MrKB> it's fine then, don't worry about it
[05:12] <KrisHansen> sere: yeah
[05:12] <KrisHansen> sere: i goota go , going to but a ethernet cable . bbl
[05:12] <varunendra> okay, it's messed up now :P
[05:12] <sere> KrisHansen: you should be able to just add those from the firefox addons
[05:12] <KrisHansen> sere: how to do that ?
[05:12] <MrKB> varunendra - I'm still connected to AndroidAP BTW which I guess is a good sign
[05:12] <MrKB> let me try Light again anyway
[05:13] <MrKB> nope, not working for Light -_-
[05:13] <sere> KrisHansen: open up firefox  then search firefox addons
[05:13] <varunendra> MrKB, IPv4 should be set to "manual" or "auto"
[05:13]  * MrKB stabs router
[05:13] <MrKB> yes I realize that. How do we go about doing that
[05:13] <KrisHansen> sere: yeah i got it . now i have to select add on type
[05:13] <varunendra> it'll take effect after a down > up cycle I guess (but nm has its own ways to do things)
[05:14] <MrKB> it'll take effect as in it'll D/C me from AndroidAP? XD
[05:14]  * MrKB is still on AndroidAP
[05:14] <KrisHansen> sere: i found it . which adblock version do i get the latest ?
[05:14] <varunendra> MrKB, let's just try the ifconfig commands anyway, we'll see if the syslog returns any errors regarding IPv4
[05:15] <MrKB> ok
[05:15] <KrisHansen> sere: adblock plus 2.2.4
[05:15] <sere> KrisHansen: yea i would stay to date as much as possible with those..
[05:15] <KrisHansen> sere: ok hold up
[05:15] <MrKB> I did try the commands though...
[05:15] <MrKB> [01:10:43 AM] <MrKB> ok varunendra - did down and then .101 <-- there
[05:15] <sere> KrisHansen: ok
[05:15] <varunendra> with no change I guess :(
[05:16] <MrKB> indeed
[05:16] <MrKB> syslog?
[05:16] <varunendra> Yup
[05:16] <MrKB> do you still need me to turn off AndroidAP before doing it? Or is the 80 lines enough?
[05:16] <MrKB> I think I forgot to turn it off last time, too XD
[05:16] <varunendra> leave it on
[05:16] <KrisHansen> ok i am adding adblock edge 2.0.4
[05:17] <varunendra> 80 is enough
[05:17] <MrKB> KrisHansen - edge?
[05:17] <MrKB> ok varunendra
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> guys lets stick to ubuntu support
[05:17] <varunendra> heh, that's yet another version of adblock... :P
[05:18] <varunendra> I'm on "Trueblockplus"
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> join #firefox for addons discuss
[05:18] <Guest93466> anyone?
[05:18] <varunendra> :|
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> Guest93466: re-ask your question here once in a while mate
[05:18] <Guest93466> gotcha
[05:18] <MrKB> varunendra - http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769927
[05:19] <Guest93466> MrKB, when the above is done, do - "sudo ifconfig wlan0 down" then "sudo ifconfig wlan0 xx.xx.xx.101" again
[05:19] <Guest93466> Hey guys -  the other day someone here kindly helped me figure out a way to get the features of UbuntuStudio for Ubuntu - one of the things I was told was I needed to be a member of audio group and I gave was given this to type in terminal: sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER - when I did, it spat this back at me:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769898/  .... now, my question is - what do I do here... I was uncertain if the Username/account
[05:19] <Guest93466> was automatically created or if I needed to choose something from the options listed.
[05:19] <MrKB> lol Guest93466 - nice paste
[05:20] <Guest93466> keep it calssy.  :)
[05:20] <MrKB> (^.^)b
[05:20] <Guest93466> figured i worded it right the first time... link and whatnot
[05:21] <MrKB> no I meant the fact that you pasted one of varunendra's lines directed at me, right before your post
[05:21] <MrKB> it made me laugh
[05:23] <varunendra> MrKB, it's all AndroidAP again, no references to the "Light" ap. Perhaps we do need to disable it. :(
[05:23] <MrKB> varunendra - I hate you O_O
[05:23] <varunendra> (for a moment I jumped with joy when I saw it getting an IP from DHCP)
[05:23] <GeorgeTorwell> where is the ubuntu server channel
[05:24] <MrKB> lol varunendra
[05:24] <bingoboy> what's this
[05:24] <GeorgeTorwell> and if anyone knows, does LVM mean the same thing as full disk encryption in Ubuntu server Edition
[05:24] <reisio> no
[05:24] <varunendra> MrKB, yeah, I hate myself too .... many times a day. :/
[05:24] <MrKB> lol
[05:24] <reisio> _one_ thing LVM does is help a person utilize full disk encryption
[05:25] <Tylerjd> Full disk encryption is different than LVM - though they can work in unison
[05:25] <MrKB> omg varunendra
[05:25] <reisio> but encryption i sn't really its purpose, right
[05:25] <MrKB> the install just died
[05:25] <GeorgeTorwell> well I didnt see an option for setting up FDE in server edition
[05:25] <varunendra> Means?
[05:25] <varunendra> MrKB,
[05:25] <GeorgeTorwell> how are they different? Either way you ahve an encrypted system followed by a decrypted boot, right?
[05:25] <MrKB> it gave up on trying to connect to Light so I switched over to tty1
[05:25] <MrKB> got a black screen
[05:25] <MrKB> switched back to desktop - black screen
[05:25] <Tylerjd> Generally servers wouldn't be fully encrypted -_-
[05:25] <MrKB> :(:(:(:( varunendra
[05:26] <varunendra> MrKB, Do you feel the need for a forum thread now ? :/
[05:26] <varunendra> where we can make slow but steady progress.
[05:26] <MrKB> I mean it's reacting to the shortcuts. I can see it's flashing to different screens when I try to switch screens but I get black on both screens
[05:26] <MrKB> how's that different from this?
[05:26] <MrKB> I like IRC better than forums :P
[05:27] <Tylerjd> Though I did see a slightly relevant - abit advanced - link on reddit on this http://hashbang.ca/2013/06/15/adding-luks-hard-disk-encryption-on-lvm-after-the-fact
[05:27]  * MrKB is genuinly asking
[05:27] <varunendra> YeahRight, quick but things get lost sometime, need repetition which is prone to mistakes.
[05:28] <MrKB> I'm guessing PM is out of the question?
[05:28] <MrKB> what about #Ubuntu-Beginners?
[05:28] <MrKB> no one talks on there O_O
[05:28] <MrKB> varunendra - what timezone are you on?
[05:29] <varunendra> GMT + 5:30
[05:29] <GeorgeTorwell> can someone tell me how to set up FDE on ubuntu server 13?
[05:29] <varunendra> MrKB,  forum thread will have the advantage of giving proper time to rethink and come up with something that may probably make more sense. Plus, others (better than me) can participate.
[05:29] <MrKB> ok
[05:30] <varunendra> but above all, MrKB I think you shouldn't hesitate from installing. As your card itself is working.
[05:30] <MrKB> 11AM for you?
[05:30] <varunendra> exactly
[05:30] <varunendra> for you?
[05:30] <MrKB> <-- 1:30AM XD
[05:30] <Tylerjd> ^Same
[05:30] <MrKB> varunendra - still having major video issues
[05:30] <varunendra> usual for guys like us :P
[05:31] <MrKB> indeed
[05:31] <varunendra> the time I meant
[05:31] <MrKB> I know what you meant :P
[05:31] <varunendra> Did you also try 12.04? MrKB
[05:31] <MrKB> I did not
[05:32] <MrKB> I mean you did mention something about trying the blob driver...can we do that in live?
[05:32] <varunendra> You should, especially when you are putting so much effort in it.
[05:32] <MrKB> or does it have to be a permanent install?
[05:32]  * MrKB wants to have the latest
[05:32]  * MrKB wants the latest even if he doesn't know what's different about it XD
[05:32] <varunendra> Not necessarily a permanent install. But since restarting nm service is causing trouble, it may fail on live session.
[05:33] <Tylerjd> Indeed, MrKB try 12.04. My HTPC is running - and has to stay - at 12.04 because AMD dropped legacy driver support for installs of X later than what is on 12.04
[05:33]  * MrKB stabs AMD
[05:33] <varunendra> MrKB, 12.04 will be supported till april 2017, while 13.04 only till Jan. next year.
[05:34] <MrKB> I never understood why that worked like that?
[05:34] <varunendra> oh march,, not jan.
[05:34] <Tylerjd> Why the support worked like that?
[05:34] <MrKB> is it cause 12.04 is more of a milestone and 13.04 is a steppingstone release?
[05:34] <MrKB> Tylerjd - some releases are LTS
[05:34] <MrKB> 12.04 is one of them
[05:34] <varunendra> MrKB, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[05:34] <Tylerjd> 12.04 is a long-term support edition, used for more enterprise support
[05:35] <MrKB> my question was what decides which ones gets LTS
[05:35] <Tylerjd> Every 4 releases I believe
[05:35] <MrKB> I see
[05:35] <varunendra> and 13.04 is indeed dying in jan :/
[05:35]  * MrKB wonders why he needs support though
[05:35] <MrKB> and?
[05:35]  * MrKB will update to newer version as soon as it's out and stable lol
[05:35] <Tylerjd> You don't. Servers and enterprisesdo
[05:36] <MrKB> :) ^
[05:36] <Tylerjd> Enterprises don't want to be re-installing every 6 months
[05:36] <MrKB> stop trying to sway me to old software varunendra O_O
[05:36] <Tylerjd> And I like my servers on a stable edition
[05:37] <Tylerjd> I mean Debian 7 was just released. And it contains practically the same software as 12.04
[05:37] <varunendra> MrKB, LTS is meant to provide stability, while a rolling release like 13.04 is meant to provide cutting edge (or bleeding edge) support. Can be more buggy.
[05:37] <MrKB> I see
[05:37] <clcto> varunendra: 13.04 is not rolling release
[05:37] <varunendra> And you can always install the latest kernel if necessary.
[05:37] <MrKB> varunendra - what do you want to do next then? 12.04? blob driver? or install 13.04 and continue troubleshooting (which would probably be blog driver install lol) then?
[05:37] <MrKB> if I install, my main concern will then turn to video driver
[05:38] <MrKB> once that's done, then wifi
[05:38] <Tylerjd> When I am running 30+ servers. It is a pain in the arse to update and fix all of them every 6 months. I like to do it at my leisure
[05:38] <MrKB> so I guess install is a good option. gives us a break from wifi
[05:38] <MrKB> Tylerjd - I see
[05:38] <varunendra> clcto, to be honest, I don't even understand the proper meaninh of "rolling release" yet. So yeah, that could be misleading. Sorry.
[05:38] <Tylerjd> Arch is a rolling release type distro
[05:38] <wheatthin> unless there's a major update, then there's no point in a production environment
[05:38] <thechris> Is there any way to have ubuntu avoid using a partition marked as swap for swap?
[05:38] <clcto> rolling release doesnt have versions, just always the newest packages
[05:38] <Tylerjd> swapoff
[05:39] <thechris> Or, on a related question, is there anyway to determine why an unused partition is "busy"
[05:39] <Tylerjd> lsof
[05:39] <varunendra> MrKB, so far I couldn't notice any problem with the driver. It seems more like a configuration or NM issue to me.
[05:39] <Tylerjd> lsof /dev/deviceid
[05:39] <MrKB> so the blob driver probably wouldn't fix it? :(
[05:40] <eCurrency> ok - Im back everybody... still need some help with rebooting and bitcoin daemon - please check out http://pastebin.com/6DTggf57
[05:40] <x5ives> Should install an app with a .deb or tarball binary?
[05:40] <thechris> right now, the installer fails when it tries to bring up the swap partition, and a manual mkswap doesn't work either
[05:40] <varunendra> oh, thanks for that clcto ^^
[05:40] <iceroot> x5ives: deb
[05:40] <x5ives> iceroot: Why?
[05:40] <iceroot> x5ives: but you should have a look first if the package is in the repos instead of downloading it from the web
[05:40] <x5ives> iceroot: It's not as far as I can tell.
[05:40] <iceroot> x5ives: because ubuntu is based on deb-files and not self compiled stuff
[05:40] <varunendra> MrKB, I don't think so. But we can try that if everything else fails. Not a good idea on a live session 'with problems' though.
[05:41] <wheatthin> thechris, and you've created a swap partition?
[05:41] <MrKB> I see
[05:41] <Tylerjd> thechris: Can you elaborate - swapoff will turn off swapping to a device and swapon will turn it on - unless I am misunderstanding
[05:41]  * MrKB wonders what's causing the problems
[05:41] <MrKB> we already checked the md5 :(
[05:41] <MrKB> should I maybe try another flash drive? You think that's it?
[05:41] <x5ives> iceroot: The tarballs I'm referring too isn't the source
[05:41] <MrKB> or once Ubuntu is loaded into memory, it's loaded?
[05:42] <thechris> wheatthin: Tylerjd: I just found my issue.  I made a md-raid array from those two partitions, but because they are listed as type "swap" the installer assumes they can be formmated as such
[05:42] <x5ives> iceroot: Just clarifying if you know that
[05:42] <varunendra> MrKB, it seems like a network configuration or firmware memory/compatibility issue to me. Nothing else. USB itself is fine as far as I can tell.
[05:42] <wheatthin> thechris, I was about to say something like that
[05:42] <Tylerjd> thechris: Ah yes. The absolute joy of mdadm and lvm
[05:43] <MrKB> [01:42:41 AM] <varunendra> .... USB itself is fine as far as I can tell. <-- Are you refering to usb wifi antenna or usb flash drive in this sentence?
[05:44] <thechris> wheatthin: Tylerjd: yes, and really, I don't think I even want swap.  8GB of RAM for a light-use home file server seems like plenty.
[05:44] <varunendra> the flash drive , the one you are booting from.
[05:44] <MrKB> ok
[05:44] <wheatthin> thechris, if you plan on doing live conversions, you still might want it
[05:44] <MrKB> thechris - there's no such thing as enough RAM. ever.
[05:44] <MrKB> <.<
[05:44] <Tylerjd> thechris: Naw, you need all of your hardrive as swap. What are you thinking */sarcasm
[05:44] <wheatthin> thechris, I have 6gb of ram, and still use a bit of swap, depending on which programs are in use
[05:45] <MrKB> varunendra - so what now?
[05:45] <x5ives> iceroot: Did you realize that I meant a tarball binary, and not source? Just clarifying.
[05:46] <Tylerjd> thechris: It is always a good idea to have some swap though, like wheatthin said
[05:46] <varunendra> MrKB, I'd suggest my regular thing - create a thread on ubuntuforums.org, and pm me (my id is same there - varunendra). I really come to IRC rarely.
[05:46] <Tylerjd> also, wheatthin, you are making me hungry with your username considering that is my favorite snack
[05:46] <wheatthin> lol
[05:46] <varunendra> and meanwhile, give 12.04 a spin. Who knows if it magically fixed everything :) MrKB
[05:47] <MrKB> :-\
[05:47] <iceroot> x5ives: always use the deb instead
[05:47] <eCurrency> It looks busy in here, and I'm sorry to bother, but can somebody please help me with ubuntu - I get errors witht he instructions at https://github.com/kyledrake/coinpunk/blob/master/docs/install-ubuntu.md - starting with "sudo gem install bundler" - it returns and error...
[05:47] <MrKB> varunendra - as soon as I get 12.04 up and running, I'll want to update XD
[05:47] <varunendra> Not a problem.
[05:47] <varunendra> update is different than "Upgrade" :D
[05:48] <iceroot> x5ives: because then you can manage the installation and removing part with dpkg/apt-get
[05:48] <MrKB> it is a problem, though varunendra. it's gonna cause problems like it is now, won't it? :-\
[05:48] <MrKB> varunendra - which one is which?
[05:48] <x5ives> Thanks much.
[05:48] <eCurrency> can someone look at: http://pastebin.com/6DTggf57 - please
[05:48] <iceroot> x5ives: so you are not using software which is not known by dpkg/apt-get  you can easily update the software, also the dependencies will be checked
[05:48] <varunendra> MrKB, since you'll be on a fresh install, trying is better than guessing..
[05:49] <Saik> does 12.04 install openssh-server by default?
[05:49] <x5ives> I see, thank you.
[05:49] <MrKB> ok so 12.04 it is. do you recommend I try it before I install it?
[05:49] <SwedeMike> Saik: I don't believe it does.
[05:49] <sere> Saik: no
[05:49] <wheatthin> since it's by GIT, I don't think it's covered in this channel
[05:49] <wheatthin> eCurrency,
[05:49] <eCurrency> yes?
[05:49] <varunendra> MrKB, sure!
[05:49] <wheatthin>  ^
[05:49] <MrKB> are you leaving IRC soon? I'm going to try this now.
[05:50] <Saik> SwedeMike, sere: it's not openssh-server anymore though?
[05:50] <eCurrency> :( - I got sent here by people in #bitcoin
[05:50] <eCurrency> because it's a ubuntu os install
[05:50] <varunendra> MrKB, I can leave it on. Just ping me when you have something (it is past midnight at your part not mine :P)
[05:50] <MrKB> :P
[05:50] <varunendra> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[05:51] <MrKB> thanks for the link varikonniemi
[05:51] <MrKB> varunendra*
[05:51] <wheatthin> eCurrency, You'll have to follow their uninstall instructions, and then install it through apt-get or software-manager
[05:52] <eCurrency> whose uninstall instructions? I have not seen any
[05:52] <Guest98535> hey guys
[05:52] <Guest98535> i need to add a user to the audio group, cant seem to get it
[05:52] <Guest98535> sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER
[05:53] <Guest98535> that gives me the following options:
[05:53] <Saik> SwedeMike, sere: does openssh-server have a new name? I can't find it in the software manager
[05:53] <Guest98535> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769974/
[05:54] <SwedeMike> Saik: openssh-server perhaps? "apt-cache search ssh" should make you find it.
[05:54] <wheatthin> eCurrency, I'm not sure, but I'd look for the launchers and /etc/rc.x and remove all known instances of the bitcoin launcher
[05:55] <eCurrency> This is the ubuntu channel and know one can tell me how to get a program to start upon reboot ?!?!
[05:55] <wheatthin> then go to the installation directory of bitcoin and delete the root of the installation
[05:55] <reisio> eCurrency: once?
[05:55] <eCurrency> If the server goes goes down - when it goes back up
[05:55] <tking> hi
[05:55] <Saik> SwedeMike: searching the package manager ofr SSH gave me a lot of GUI apps for other servers
[05:56] <thechris> eCurrency: is this a GUI or CLI application?
[05:56] <eCurrency> CLUI
[05:56] <wheatthin> by deleting the entries in /etc/rc.x it'll stop it from launching at boot
[05:56] <eCurrency> CLI
[05:56] <tking> i notice my sound is not as good on ubuntu as it is on windows any solution?
[05:56] <reisio> tking: not as good?
[05:57] <wheatthin> eCurrency, then you can go ahead and delete where you installed it to
[05:57] <wheatthin> eCurrency, once that happens, then you can install it using apt-get, and it'll setup all the launchers
[05:57] <thechris> eCurrency: you should be able to add it to an init script in /etc/init.d/ or such.
[05:58] <eCurrency> When I'm at the CLI I type "bitcoin --daemon" - but yesterday I came back and it was not running - seems the server went down - I had to run bitcoin --daemon again - in centos - I had no problem - I even did it with webmin... ubuntu seems to be a problem
[05:58] <wheatthin> that's because you didn't run it as a service
[05:58] <wheatthin> which installing it as a repository package, will set it up to use
[05:58] <eCurrency> can I uninstall it via webmin?
[05:59] <thechris> eCurrency: and yes, if the package has its own scripts for this purpose, those would be preferred.
[05:59] <wheatthin> eCurrency, I'd first issue updatedb (as root if it's your own server)
[06:00] <eCurrency> yes
[06:00] <wheatthin> eCurrency, then I'd go and delete the rc scripts, and then delete the main path
[06:00] <wheatthin> eCurrency, you can find the main path after updatedb and using   'locate bitcoin'
[06:00] <tking> reisio i get some unclear sound
[06:00] <tking> reisio the sound quality
[06:01] <eCurrency> I'll give it a shot
[06:01] <reisio> tking: run 'alsamixer' from a terminal, make sure PCM isn't too high
[06:01] <Guest98535> anyone have a second?
[06:01] <eCurrency> don't use Anything that says "sudo" if I'm root?
[06:01] <Guest98535> i need some help
[06:02] <reisio> eCurrency: hrmm?
[06:02] <Sir-Litepool> whats up
[06:02] <Guest98535> hey man
[06:02] <Guest98535> i need to add myself to the audio group
[06:02] <Guest98535> ive been using the following command
[06:02] <Sir-Litepool> just ask i probably won't be able to help you but someone may
[06:02] <wheatthin> eCurrency, sudo is so you can become root momentarily
[06:02] <eCurrency> I keep getting told that I didn't have to use sudo even though the instructions say "sudo blah blah blah"
[06:02] <Guest98535> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769984/
[06:02] <reisio> eCurrency: and?
[06:03] <eCurrency> just askin
[06:03] <reisio> Guest98535: I'd use gpasswd
[06:03] <eCurrency>   <---- stinkin newb
[06:03] <Guest98535> could you explain?
[06:03] <Guest98535> not well versed in all this just yet
[06:03] <reisio> eCurrency: invariably you are going to see examples of commands that use sudo which don't strictly require it
[06:03] <wheatthin> eCurrency, just use it if you run into permission problems while trying to delete the files
[06:04] <wheatthin> use 'sudo updatedb' so it can find ALL files within /
[06:05] <wheatthin> eCurrency, it'll need it, cause with normal permissions, it won't index all the files
[06:05] <reisio> well, you can use the package manager to find files outside of /home/, usually
[06:06] <reisio> not that there's any harm indexing them
[06:06] <wheatthin> reisio, he didn't use package manager to install
[06:06] <eCurrency> ok... what about this command that always errors: gem install bundler
[06:06] <reisio> huh?
[06:06] <reisio> eCurrency: what error?
[06:06] <eCurrency> 1 sec
[06:06] <eCurrency> "gem: command not found"
[06:06] <wheatthin> reisio, he used GIT to install
[06:06] <eCurrency> from the # CLI
[06:07] <reisio> wheatthin: to install what?
[06:07] <wheatthin> bitcoin
[06:07] <reisio> oh
[06:07] <reisio> well, obviously he should have used a package manager :p
[06:07] <wheatthin> obviously, but he's newb
[06:07] <reisio> :p
[06:07] <eCurrency> followed instructions at https://github.com/kyledrake/coinpunk/blob/master/docs/install-ubuntu.md
[06:07] <reisio> eCurrency: gem is an executable provided by a ruby implementation
[06:08] <eCurrency> their kinda bogus
[06:08] <eCurrency> they're kinda bogus - I followed step by step - even went out and got the exact OS
[06:08] <eCurrency> *they're
[06:08] <wheatthin> eCurrency, ehh, if you used the package manager, it would have worked
[06:09] <eCurrency> https://github.com/kyledrake/coinpunk/blob/master/docs/install-ubuntu.md did explain anything about a package manager
[06:09] <eCurrency> *didn't I mean
[06:09] <wheatthin> that's github's version not ubuntu repo
[06:11] <wheatthin> eCurrency, now do what I said, and then use apt-get or package manager to install bitcoind
[06:11] <eCurrency> ok - starting
[06:13] <wheatthin> eCurrency, then you'll be able to use webmin, or ubuntu's "service" script to stop/restart the daemon
[06:13] <dhart> hi. any ubuntu cloud users here experienced with resizing filesystems in qcow2 images?
[06:13] <MrKB> varunendra - 12.04 is working fine as far as video. still not getting connection to Light though.
[06:13] <MrKB> (live, not installed)
[06:16] <MrKB> varunendra - after failing to connect to Light, I turned on AndroidAP. It didn't show up in the list of APs so I turned off Wifi and turned it back on. Now I see no APs. Not even [ iwlist wlan0 scan ] shows any APs! :-\
[06:16] <Global_Radio> hi
[06:17] <Global_Radio> is there a way to view a live clock in terminal/cli?
[06:17] <wheatthin> type date
[06:17] <Global_Radio> thats not live
[06:17] <SwedeMike> Global_Radio: "watch date"
[06:17] <Global_Radio> thanks for your reply
[06:17] <varunendra> MrKB, give me 10 min.. keep tryig in the meanwhile
[06:17] <Global_Radio> ok swede, going to try it
[06:18] <MrKB> ok
[06:18] <wheatthin> SwedeMike, nice call
[06:19] <jordanrx123> i'am not speak english
[06:19] <wheatthin> SwedeMike, learning something new every day :p
[06:20] <jordanrx123> i'am from indonesia, where you from ?
[06:21] <Global_Radio> SwedeMike, is there a way to view the date and time as a simple line of text instead of a big page in the terminal?
[06:21] <jordanrx123> hei wheatthin ?
[06:23] <SwedeMike> Global_Radio: not easily that I know of.
[06:23] <MrKB> I get what wlan0 and eth0 are, but what's lo?
[06:24] <Global_Radio> thank you SwedeMike
[06:24] <wheatthin> MrKB, it's for loopback
[06:24] <MrKB> ok thanks wheatthin
[06:24] <SwedeMike> MrKB: a virtual interface network application can talk over even if there is no active network interface. It's called "loopback".
[06:25] <Limit_> When talking about sources.list they mean sources.list.d or sources.list.save because I do not have sources.list file in /etc/apt/ ?
[06:25] <Limit_> or is there a sources.list file?
[06:26] <varunendra> MrKB, okay I'm back. Good to know you have a working GUI now. That's a progress! (thanks to LTS I guess)
[06:26] <MrKB> indeed thanks to LTS varunendra. I didn't do anything special. Just popped in the USB drive and clicked on boot from USB lol
[06:27] <MrKB> btw I just restarted the live install, hopefully wifi is working again
[06:27] <varunendra> MrKB, if still no ap in "sudo iwlist scan", Check "rfkill list"
[06:27] <MrKB> ok
[06:28] <varunendra> Limit_, have you lost your /etc/apt/sources.list file? the ".save" file is just a backup of it that you can use in that case.
[06:29] <Limit_> varunendra: thanks :) I was thinking same but was not sure!
[06:29] <varunendra> Limit_, make sure to keep it as backup. Just create a copy from it.
[06:30] <Limit_> varunendra: sure!
[06:30] <Limit_> a question though. How was apt-get update working without sources.list?
[06:31] <varunendra> Limit_, perhaps through the other files in sources.list.d directory?
[06:32] <Limit_> Not sure because those in the sources.list.d are the ppas that I added while those updated were ubuntu sources
[06:33] <MrKB> varunendra - 12.04 fails
[06:33] <MrKB> it won't even connect to AndroidAP :(
[06:33] <Limit_> varunendra: sorry my bad! I read it wrong. You are right. It is files from sources.list.d
[06:33] <varunendra> MrKB, what does rfkill list show?
[06:34] <MrKB> soft blocked no and hard blocked no
[06:34] <MrKB> I can see the APs, I just can't connect to either of them
[06:35] <varunendra> Great! :D Try saving relevant settings in NM itself.
[06:35] <wheatthin> MrKB, Are you using network-manager?
[06:35] <MrKB> [02:35:13 AM] <varunendra> Great! :D Try saving relevant settings in NM itself.
[06:35] <MrKB> [02:35:22 AM] <wheatthin> MrKB, Are you using network-manager?
[06:35] <MrKB> what?
[06:35] <sharpshooter> hi friends, since I upgraded my ubuntu from 12.10 to 13.04 my web cam is not working ? how can i enable it if it is a hardware problem then how can i check it ?
[06:36] <MrKB> I'm using the drop-down menu from the wifi icon on the top-right
[06:36] <MrKB> varunendra - I never tried changing the channel on Light. Should I do that or at this stage have you decided it will make no difference>?
[06:37] <varunendra> MrKB, relevant settings like SSID, mac address of the ap in BSSID. You can even try manual IP under IPv4
[06:37] <MrKB> what is BSSID
[06:37] <wheatthin> mac address of ap
[06:37] <MrKB> oh
[06:37] <varunendra> MrKB, oh yeah, that's an important factor. I totally forgot. Try 1 or 11
[06:37] <MrKB> is it really that important? :-\
[06:37] <MrKB> how do I get the mac address of my IP
[06:37] <MrKB> AP*
[06:38] <varunendra> Not necessarily, but it often helps.
[06:38] <MrKB> just changed it from 8 to 1
[06:38] <varunendra> MrKB, "sudo iwlist scan"
[06:38] <varunendra> to get mac id
[06:39] <MrKB> no results? WEIRD!
[06:39] <MrKB> wtf is happening -_-
[06:39] <MrKB> now I see no APs
[06:39] <MrKB> time to reboot live?
[06:39] <wheatthin> no.
[06:40] <varunendra> what exactly rfkill list is showing?
[06:40] <MrKB> soft blocked and hard blocked No
[06:40] <MrKB> just like before
[06:40] <MrKB> also how do I use nm?
[06:40] <wheatthin> MrKB, so turn the stupid wifi to on in network manager
[06:40] <varunendra> for wlan0 or phy0? NM = Network Manager's GUI
[06:41] <varunendra> for settings.
[06:41] <MrKB> phy0
[06:41] <MrKB> wheatthin - why is it off? And how do I turn it on? Where's nm?
[06:41] <MrKB> <-- linux n00b
[06:42] <wheatthin> MrKB, it should have it under wi-fi
[06:42] <varunendra> Okay, MrKB how are you connected now?
[06:42] <wheatthin> lol
[06:42] <MrKB> varunendra - I'm not. the ubuntu install is offline O_o
[06:42] <varunendra> I mean how are you talking to us? MrKB
[06:42] <wheatthin> varunendra, he's using a different machine
[06:42] <MrKB> wifi varunendra
[06:43] <MrKB> I'm connected to Light
[06:43] <varunendra> on a different computer or mobile?
[06:43] <raj_> hii........
[06:43] <MrKB> laptop
[06:43] <MrKB> WinXP lapto
[06:43] <wheatthin> a different computer lol
[06:43] <MrKB> laptop*
[06:43] <MrKB> yes, a different computer
[06:43] <varunendra> :D
[06:43] <MrKB> [02:42:02 AM] <wheatthin> MrKB, it should have it under wi-fi <-- what is 'it' ?
[06:44] <wheatthin> it's a button switch
[06:44] <MrKB> where
[06:44] <wheatthin> which toggles the soft blocked
[06:44] <wheatthin> in NETWORK MANAGER
[06:44] <MrKB> which is where
[06:44] <wheatthin> omg dude, you said you were using that stupid thing in the corner
[06:44] <MrKB> yes
[06:44] <wheatthin> I told you it was called network manager
[06:44] <MrKB> Oh, I didn't see that
[06:44] <MrKB> sorry
[06:44] <varunendra> MrKB, Can you show us somehow "nm-tool" output? Or even better, the entire diagnostics report as you did earlier?
[06:45] <MrKB> anyway, soft blocked is no, like I said. So Wireless is on
[06:45] <wheatthin> right
[06:45] <MrKB> sure varunendra
[06:45] <wheatthin> now under the device itself in network manager
[06:45] <varunendra> do it then
[06:45] <wheatthin> select the ap
[06:45] <MrKB> wheatthin the APs aren't showing up
[06:45] <wheatthin> if soft blocked is off
[06:45] <wheatthin> then it should show them
[06:46] <sharpshooter> hi friends, since I upgraded my ubuntu from 12.10 to 13.04 my web cam is not working ? how can i enable it if it is a hardware problem then how can i check it ?
[06:46] <MrKB> well it's not -_-
[06:46] <varunendra> :P
[06:46] <wheatthin> well then tick it so it's on
[06:46] <MrKB> it is on
[06:46] <Dr_willis> sharpshooter,  see if it works on a 13.04 live cd as a test. also see if it works for a newly made user. How are you testing the webcam?
[06:46] <MrKB> I haven't turned wifi off dude. the APs magically stopped appearing out of nowhere. just like before.
[06:47] <wheatthin> if soft blocked is on, then it turns OFF the wifi
[06:47] <wheatthin> so tick it again, and let it show the ap
[06:47] <varunendra> wheatthin, let's just take a look at a summary that he can create with this script : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12350385
[06:47] <MrKB> wheatthin - soft blocked is off
[06:47] <MrKB> varunendra - is it safe to unplug the ubuntu usb?
[06:47] <MrKB> I need to plug in another flash drive which has the wireless script
[06:47] <varunendra> nope
[06:47] <MrKB> ok
[06:48] <MrKB> one sec then
[06:48] <varunendra> aren't there any spare ports?
[06:48] <wheatthin> probably using mouse with the extra one
[06:48] <sharpshooter> Dr_willis:  I check it with cheese and camorama cheese is displaying a black screen and camorama is saying that  could not connect to video device (/dev/video0) )
[06:48] <MrKB> there's extra ones in the back, yes
[06:48] <MrKB> I just plugged it in
[06:48] <varunendra> probelms-problems.... ;)
[06:48] <MrKB> I'm not seeing it though
[06:48] <wheatthin> **slaps head
[06:49] <varunendra> MrKB, aren't they accessible?
[06:49] <MrKB> yes they are
[06:49] <MrKB> I plugged the flash drive in already
[06:49] <MrKB> I can't see it in ubuntu though
[06:49] <varunendra> :)
[06:50] <wheatthin> open nautilus?
[06:50] <varunendra> problems-prob.... ;) do they show up in "sudo fdisk -l" ?
[06:50] <MrKB> nevermind, I see it now. Had it plugged in backward
[06:50] <MrKB> backwards
[06:50] <wheatthin> that's impossible
[06:50] <Dr_willis> thats one way to break a port.
[06:50] <MrKB> one sec while I run the script
[06:50] <varunendra> :D
[06:50] <Dr_willis> it is possible. ;)
[06:50] <MrKB> no it's not wheatthin, it's a microSD-USB adapter
[06:50] <MrKB> it's super thing
[06:51] <MrKB> thin*
[06:51] <wheatthin> oh
[06:51] <Dr_willis> flash drive can also fit in a Network Cable Port...  :) Took me forever to figure out how the wife did that...
[06:51] <wheatthin> lmao
[06:51] <varunendra> :D LOL
[06:52] <wheatthin> I can't stop laughing
[06:52] <wheatthin> lol
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Worse design ever.. got an Android Tablet.. the headphone port.. and POWER ports were identical sized. (almost)
[06:52] <wheatthin> lmao
[06:52] <varunendra> I just had my lunch Dr_willis please don't make me laugh so loud.. :-o
[06:53] <wheatthin> they should have lil graphics to display what they are for 0.o
[06:53] <clcto> Dr_willis: which one? i thought most of them were mico usb
[06:53] <Dr_willis> clcto,  some noname big-lots $50 one. ;)
[06:54] <Dr_willis> actually i think they were using the name Polaroid  they must have bought the rights..
[06:54] <MrKB> varunendra - http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5770073/
[06:54] <Dr_willis> its just a video player for the 6 yr old.
[06:55] <MrKB> brb, gonna make me some food
[06:55] <MrKB> whatever the 3AM meal is called
[06:55] <MrKB> <.<
[06:56] <clcto> MrKB: munchies
[06:56] <wheatthin> lol
[06:56] <varunendra> MrKB, your wireless did make a connection (or attempted to). Reboot should make it work again.
[06:57] <clcto> varunendra: reboot? what is this, #windows
[06:58] <varunendra> clcto, a stuck firmware issue is easily fixed by that. I know it is not necessary, but easy.
[06:58] <MrKB> lol clcto
[06:58] <varunendra> And reboot does miracles more than often. :P
[07:00] <MrKB> [02:58:12 AM] <varunendra> clcto, a stuck firmware issue is easily fixed by that. <-- yes but this is the second time it happens. I've had to restart twice.
[07:00] <MrKB> 12.04 fails
[07:00] <MrKB> 13.04 is t3h win
[07:01] <MrKB> I might have had a fail video driver but at least I had internet XD
[07:01] <varunendra> But doesn't give you a working graphics :(
[07:01] <wheatthin> lol
[07:01] <Dr_willis> You got Intel video i thought? that should work  in most cases?
[07:02] <MrKB> ues Dr_willis
[07:02] <Dr_willis> or is it a dual gpu optimus thing.
[07:02] <MrKB> but not on 13.04
[07:02] <MrKB> internet > useable graphics
[07:02] <varunendra> MrKB, yeah, sure. That's your choice. Get a working video and fix wireless or a working wireless then fix video.
[07:02] <MrKB> crappy graphics > good graphics no internet
[07:02] <Dr_willis> Intel has a tool/script now for their latest drivers. and theres that ppa that may have the latest.
[07:02] <MrKB> well video is working now on 12.04
[07:02] <Dr_willis> its possible  some Updayte/upgrade may fix the video issue. (or both issues)
[07:03] <MrKB> so I'm guessing wireless is the issue at hand still XD
[07:03] <wheatthin> <-- hugs his ati
[07:03]  * MrKB kicks it
[07:03] <Dr_willis> id use 13.04 and run a cable and update and see if it all just 'works' :P
[07:03] <MrKB> update to what
[07:03] <wheatthin> 13.04
[07:03] <wheatthin> fully updated
[07:03] <Dr_willis> a clean install of 13.04 will have numerous updates to fix things.
[07:03] <MrKB> oh God
[07:03] <MrKB> this _is_ Windows
[07:04] <Dr_willis> MrKB,  err.. you expect  it to never have updates?
[07:04] <wheatthin> no, it's open sourced software
[07:04] <MrKB> yes <.<
[07:04] <Dr_willis> time to  go back to your C64 i guess.
[07:04] <wheatthin> lol
[07:04] <MrKB> I expect updates, yes
[07:04] <varunendra> MrKB, like I told earlier, you may have to resort to the proprietary driver which is easy enough to compile if you have an otherwise fully working system.
[07:04] <MrKB> I just figured I was downloading the latest stable release, it would come with the updates.
[07:04] <MrKB> But I guess now that I think about it it makes sense that it doesn't do that
[07:05] <MrKB> it'd be a nightmare to maintain mirrors
[07:05] <wheatthin> they do maintain mirrors
[07:05] <Dr_willis> MrKB,  if it there IS a 'updated' release. it has a .1 version number adeed to the end.
[07:05] <MrKB> varunendra - blob driver for video right? Yeah but we need to fix wireless first :D
[07:05] <Dr_willis> 12.04.1  for example
[07:05] <MrKB> indeed Dr_willis
[07:05] <Dr_willis> I just keep a spare USB wifi dongle that works out of the box. ;) that wya i dont have to fight with wifi at the start
[07:06] <varunendra> Nope, MrKB you already have a working video on 12.04.
[07:06] <MrKB> you said that to me already Dr_willis
[07:06] <MrKB> hours ago lol
[07:06] <Dr_willis> or run a cable.
[07:06] <wheatthin> MrKB, but you make us repeat over and over :P
[07:06] <MrKB> well now it's not the time for me to hunt down this magical $10 dongle that works with all
[07:07] <Dr_willis> I have 4 such dongles. ;P
[07:07] <MrKB> indeed varunendra but you said blob wireless drivers wouldn't fix anything
[07:07] <MrKB> since you were convinced it was something else
[07:07] <wheatthin> me too.. they just don't run at max signal when I'm right next to the wifi ap
[07:07] <MrKB> but ok fine, let's do it.
[07:07] <MrKB> how do I compile the blob
[07:07] <varunendra> Yes, on 13.04, since it was connecting fine to the other ap
[07:07] <MrKB> lol wheatthin
[07:07] <MrKB> good point varunendra
[07:08]  * MrKB bows
[07:09] <wheatthin> I'm addicted to the #ubuntu
[07:09] <sharpshooter> Dr_willis:  I tried with another newly created users account but still its not working and why it is not in /dev/video0 ?
[07:09] <Dr_willis> sharpshooter,  when a webcam is plugged in, the kernel should load the modules needed and create that device in /dev/
[07:10] <clcto> wheatthin: try #archlinux
[07:10] <clcto> its more fun
[07:10] <Dr_willis> sharpshooter,   you could see what module its trying to load, and look in 'dmesg' output for any errors when you plug it in
[07:10] <wheatthin> lol I'm good.. <-- started out in gentoo
[07:10] <sharpshooter> Dr_willis:  the webcam is inbuild and my laptop is dell inspiron 1525
[07:11] <Dr_willis> sharpshooter,  you may want to chedk dmesg output then and try to determine the module.  perhaps turn the cam on./off
[07:12] <Dr_willis> err.. the cam does have some fn-XX key to toggle it?  My laptop does. ;)
[07:13] <sharpshooter> Dr_willis:  here is my out put : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5770103/
[07:14] <sharpshooter> Dr_willis:  in my case there is no fn keys to toggle it !
[07:15] <Dr_willis> that output is the same error messages about the video chipset over and over and over it seems
[07:15] <MrKB> varunendra
[07:15] <MrKB> commands O_O
[07:16] <varunendra> MrKB, here's a post with instructions to compile the proprietary driver : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2076315&p=12318056#post12318056
[07:16] <MrKB> thanks :D
[07:16] <sharpshooter> Dr_willis:  so it means its a hardware failure ??
[07:17] <Dr_willis> sharpshooter,  no.. it may mean the info we want has scrolled out of the buffer allready.
[07:17] <Dr_willis> it could be a hw issue.. test with earlier live cd's that did work.. would clarify if thats the case or not
[07:17] <varunendra> MrKB, exact driver to download : http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=21&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true#2742
[07:17] <MrKB> thanks varunendra
[07:18] <varunendra> Only if it works :(
[07:18] <sharpshooter> Dr_willis:  sure,  thanks for you help i will check it and comeback with details !
[07:25] <MrKB> varunendra - driver is compiling
[07:26] <varunendra> MrKB, post back if you see any errors. Warnings can be ignored.
[07:26] <VectorX> hi anyone know where i can download Compat-wireless drivers from, im trying here but the links are down http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Download/stable
[07:26] <MrKB> Compile make driver ok!!
[07:26] <MrKB> ERROR: Module 8192cu does not exist in /proc/modules
[07:27] <MrKB> insmod: error inserting 8192cu.ko: -1 device or resource busy
[07:27] <varunendra> MrKB, still stuck? Or the terminal returned to prompt?
[07:28] <MrKB> apparently it was a driver for both 8188 and 8192
[07:28] <MrKB> returned
[07:28] <MrKB> The Setup Script is completed! was the last thing
[07:28] <MrKB> so assuming it worked, what's next varunendra?
[07:30] <varunendra> nou, 8192cu is the name of the module (driver) it will also handle your card. MrKB
[07:30] <oliver_> hello guys. can you give me some hint concerning iwconfig? when i try to set my essid in commandline with sudo iwconfig mlan0 essid gast, i do net get any error, but when i want to see if it worked with iwconfig, i still see that the essid is set to any ....
[07:30] <MrKB> oh ok
[07:30] <MrKB> so did it fail varunendra
[07:30] <varunendra> let's check - "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net"
[07:30] <varunendra> it will show if the new driver loaded.
[07:31] <MrKB> all I see is ethernet
[07:31] <oliver_> wait ...
[07:32] <MrKB> wouldn't it be lsusb?
[07:32] <varunendra> oh yeah, my mistake ! MrKB
[07:32] <varunendra> better yet - nm-tool
[07:32] <MrKB> ok
[07:32] <oliver_> ?!? pcilib says that it cannot open /proc/bus/pci .... I must say, that I run the thing on an arm chromebook...
[07:33] <MrKB> rt8192cu is the driver varunendra :D
[07:33] <oliver_> On lsusb I see a novatel wireless entry
[07:34] <varunendra> MrKB, what is the output of "modinfo 8192cu"?
[07:34] <varunendra> I mean does it even return an output or error?
[07:34] <MrKB> output
[07:35] <MrKB> it's pretty long though. pastebin? Or do you want to know something specific from it?
[07:35] <MrKB> (filename, version, author, description, etc)
[07:35] <varunendra> no need for that.
[07:35] <varunendra> try - "sudo modprobe -rfv rtl8192cu"
[07:36] <varunendra> then - "sudo modprobe -v 8192cu"
[07:36] <MrKB> ok
[07:36] <varunendra> then check nm-tool again, MrKB
[07:36] <oliver_> any idea why the iwconfig is not setting the essid?
[07:36] <MrKB> omg it just connected to AndroidAP by itself
[07:37] <MrKB> after doing the -v
[07:37]  * MrKB tries Light
[07:37] <MrKB> OMG
[07:37] <MrKB> it connected to light
[07:37] <MrKB> success!
[07:37] <FloodBot1> MrKB: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:37]  * MrKB hugs varunendra
[07:37] <MrKB> stfu FloodBot1
[07:37] <varunendra> Really !!!!!!!  :-o
[07:37] <MrKB> yessir (:
[07:38] <MrKB> you are the man O_O
[07:38] <MrKB> now time to update to 13.04 lol
[07:38] <MrKB> well I guess I need to install 12.04 first. THEN update
[07:38] <varunendra> Now, I won't even bother with the native driver , this one :/ Learnt a lesson today.
[07:38] <MrKB> :)
[07:39] <MrKB> so...time to install 12.04? XD
[07:39] <varunendra> MrKB, there is a popular saying - "don't fix it if it ain't broken"
[07:39] <MrKB> it's old so therefore it's broken. O_O time for 13.04 I said lol
[07:39] <varunendra> If 12.04 serves your needs, don't bother with 13.04
[07:39] <MrKB> grr....
[07:40] <MrKB> my needs is to have the latest version :D
[07:40] <oliver_> hey I just found in the syslig that "wpa_supplicant" says" No network configuration found for this ap"
[07:40] <varunendra> MrKB, if the driver compiles fine on 13.04, and the rest of system works better than LTS, then obviously go for it. Otherwise not.
[07:40] <oliver_> So I think the kernel module seems ok. Rightẞ
[07:41] <MrKB> so try to compile the driver on live 13.04?
[07:41] <varunendra> You may :D
[07:41] <MrKB> then we'll have to deal with video issue. XD Are you up for that?
[07:43] <varunendra> I'm not into video issues other than trying boot- time parameters :/
[07:44] <MrKB> oh
[07:44] <MrKB> what got you into wifi?
[07:44] <varunendra> MrKB, I just 'hoped' that installing > updating would fix it automatically.
[07:44] <varunendra> MrKB, maybe the leads..
[07:45] <MrKB> [03:44:53 AM] <varunendra> MrKB, maybe the leads.. <-- Hm?
[07:45] <GeorgeTorwell> can someone tell me if its possible to set up full disk encryption with Ubuntu server 13? I tried guided partitioning but it set up LVM encryption instead and I don't think that's what I want
[07:45] <varunendra> it is sometimes complex, but almost always contains hints.
[07:45] <varunendra> MrKB, ^^
[07:45] <MrKB> Oh I see what you mean varunendra
[07:46] <MrKB> so I'll do this varunendra
[07:46] <MrKB> I'll install 12.04
[07:46] <MrKB> and then run live 13.04
[07:46] <MrKB> if I can get all of the issues with video worked out in 13.04 and I can get wifi driver compiled, I'll install 13.04
[07:46] <MrKB> what do you think?
[07:46] <varunendra> MrKB, live session would have nothing to do with what is "installed". It will be the same.
[07:46] <MrKB> "Install this third-party software", should I do it varunendra?
[07:47] <MrKB> yes I know they're not related. What's your point?
[07:47] <varunendra> in 13.04?
[07:47] <varunendra> third party....
[07:47] <MrKB> installing 12.04, that's where it's asking me that
[07:47] <MrKB> (it's for mp3)
[07:48] <varunendra> You can leave it now. can be done safely after installation
[07:48] <MrKB> ok
[07:48] <nbubuntu> hi anyone having hasswell build on ubuntu ?
[07:49] <MrKB> [03:46:58 AM] <varunendra> MrKB, live session would have nothing to do with what is "installed". It will be the same. <-- what I meant was if I can _confirm_ that I can get everything working by 13.04 (by using live first) _then_ I'll install it
[07:49] <nbubuntu> would it works on latest haswell ?
[07:50] <varunendra> MrKB, that's a good point. It is always recommended to try live before installation. But didn't you already try that?
[07:51] <MrKB> well the only person trying to help me with video issue was you varunendra, and as you said that's not your speciality
[07:51] <MrKB> so I'm hoping when I'm running into video problems on live 13.04, someone can help me solved them like you helped me with wifi :)
[07:51] <GeorgeTorwell> nbubuntu: lol, haslel
[07:52] <varunendra> MrKB, I can't understand why it didn't work in the first place (the 864 graphics) since it uses generic intel driver (i915 perhaps)
[07:52] <MrKB> well generic drivers suck, as we saw with wifi today :)
[07:52] <nbubuntu> GeorgeTorwell : ? just wondering , whether it'd be fully support updates on it
[07:52] <varunendra> That's why I *believe it should have been fixed after an update. (trusting luck of course) MrKB
[07:53] <MrKB> can I do updates on live?
[07:53] <varunendra> MrKB, Intel graphics have always worked well for me :)
[07:54] <varunendra> MrKB, a graphics driver update will require you to reboot (windows?? :P) and the changes will be lost on reboot :(
[07:54] <MrKB> damn
[07:54] <MrKB> well I'm installing 12.04 now, hopefully that goes well. And if it does, then I'll start fooling around with 13.04 live tomorrow. Hopefully someone can help me fix video issues then :)
[07:54]  * MrKB is tired.
[07:54] <MrKB> almost 4AM
[07:55] <varunendra> If you can, you may try a separate installation on a separate partition.
[07:55] <MrKB> too late now, I made it one big partition :-\
[07:55] <varunendra> So... should I say good night now?? :P
[07:55] <MrKB> lol not yet
[07:55] <MrKB> soon
[07:55] <MrKB> or hopefully soon :-\
[07:55] <thechris> is there a more up to date guide on installing ubuntu on mdraid+lvm+luks
[07:55] <varunendra> are you going to stay awake :-o
[07:56] <thechris> right now I can't install grub on either disk
[07:56] <MrKB> for the update to finish? yes varunendra. Why not? Will it take long?
[07:56] <varunendra> Not much, Did you choose to have them while installation?
[07:56] <nbubuntu> :( no one having haswell build ? too new though
[07:56] <Azorian> opinions on Kali?
[07:57] <varunendra> MrKB, ^^
[07:57] <Dr_willis> Which Kali?
[07:57] <MrKB> have what varunendra? Updates?
[07:57] <MrKB> Yes
[07:57] <varunendra> yes
[07:57] <Azorian> as I understand it recently made a switch to debian base (or maybe that is what it started with entirely) as compared to backtrack which I am not aware of it's core distro?
[07:57] <varunendra> I think it should be around 250 to 300 MB, MrKB , not sure though
[07:58] <MrKB> ok cool
[07:58] <MrKB> downloading language packs? grr... -_-
[07:58] <MrKB> I only need english lol
[07:58]  * MrKB kicks 12.04 installer
[07:58] <varunendra> That's why we recommend to leave them blank ;)
[07:59] <MrKB> leave what blank
[07:59] <varunendra> the checkboxes you checked
[07:59] <MrKB> I only checked the one for updates
[07:59] <reisio> Azorian: backtrack has both ubuntu-based and debian-based versions, IIRC
[07:59] <MrKB> how would I know that brought language packs? That's stupid -_-
[07:59] <reisio> Azorian: although IIRC they also rebranded, / another topic :p
[07:59] <varunendra> without them the installation is usually 15 to 20 minute job :) MrKB
[08:00] <X-Sleepy-X> ha! i install with updates in less then 10
[08:00] <Azorian> iirc?
[08:00] <MrKB> if I remember correctly, Azorian
[08:00] <MrKB> X-Sleepy-X, did it install language packs? -_-
[08:00] <Azorian> do either of you know why they choose to provide both bases?
[08:00] <varunendra> Wow X-Sleepy-X must be an optic-fiber connection :P
[08:00] <Azorian> especially from the same chain?
[08:00] <X-Sleepy-X> MrKB: Yes
[08:00] <thechris> does grub not support XFS?
[08:01] <MrKB> I don't understand the need for language packs
[08:01] <X-Sleepy-X> varunendra: isn't everybody on fiber?
[08:01] <MrKB> why is it installing them?! grrr...
[08:01] <thechris> I see a stage1.5 for xfs, but grub just reports error 17
[08:01] <MrKB> lol X-Sleepy-X
[08:01] <MrKB> you should ask varunendra what he's on :P
[08:01] <varunendra> MrKB, X-Sleepy-X it also depends on which server you are connected to. Sometimes they can be super slow. :(
[08:01] <MrKB> for you, everything is slow
[08:02] <Azorian> also looking to virtualize some test installations on alternative desktop distros. I have been rocking Ubuntu since 8.04. Any suggestions for alternatives?
[08:02] <varunendra> I'm on GPRS (Yay!!) MrKB , X-Sleepy-X
[08:02]  * MrKB can't fathom to think how long it took varunendra to download Ubuntu
[08:02] <MrKB> did you just buy the DVD? XD
[08:02] <Azorian> I'm currently prospecting a few, Kali, Debian, Zorin
[08:02] <X-Sleepy-X> varunendra: nice! :D
[08:02] <Azorian> Mint
[08:02] <varunendra> I left it on torrent, checked the other day  :P
[08:02] <thechris> Azorian: archlinux was popular at one point
[08:03] <MrKB> wha country is this varunendra
[08:03] <Azorian> any special points about arch thechris?
[08:03] <Dr_willis> Best feature of Archlinux is its well done wiki pages and docs. :)
[08:03] <varunendra> MrKB, country is okay (India), but I'm in a rural village..
[08:03] <Dr_willis> handy guide for a lot of general linux issues.
[08:03] <MrKB> oh
[08:03] <MrKB> well move <.<
[08:03] <Azorian> that is a start but many other factors are very important to me. release stability, graphic environment, organization, third party support, etc..
[08:04] <thechris> Azorian: I'm not entirely sure.  It's been reccommended to me several times.
[08:04] <Azorian> what is the default WM?
[08:04] <Dr_willis> Azorian,  most in here will say stick to ubuntu or one of its desktop-differnt variants..
[08:04] <thechris> Azorian: and given my issues with ubuntu's installer, I might just try it out
[08:04] <varunendra> MrKB, I did have 5 Mbps connection and a 10Mbps one when I was in the city. But now I have reasons to stay home.
[08:04] <Azorian> what issues have you had thechris?
[08:04] <Azorian> I may be able to help with some
[08:05] <MrKB> Azorian - can yuo help with video issues? :D
[08:05] <Azorian> I've got descent experience with it's installation process thus far
[08:05] <MrKB> you*
[08:05] <MrKB> varunendra - reasons being?
[08:05] <X-Sleepy-X> varunendra: have u tried signal boosting?
[08:05] <thechris> Azorian: I have a small file server with mdraid set up for the xfs boot partition.  Grub gives error 17 and can't install to either disk
[08:05] <rioch> What is the name of the backup tool in ubuntu?
[08:05] <MrKB> nothing will make me stay where there's subpar internet speeds O_o
[08:06] <varunendra> X-Sleepy-X, I am getting max bandwidth that kind of connection can deliver here (22-25 kbps)
[08:06] <histo> !backup | rioch
[08:06] <X-Sleepy-X> varunendra: and you can't get anything else by a mast further away?
[08:06] <Azorian> thechris: one sec, let me take a peak at the common issues list, I've had some raid issues myself
[08:07] <reisio> also Ubuntu One
[08:08] <Azorian> thechris: specifically, you are having issues with the disk order in the part table?
[08:08] <varunendra> X-Sleepy-X, nope. No faster connections (except telephone lines) around 20 km from here. And telephone lines tend to be out of order 20 days a month !! :D
[08:08] <thechris> Azorian: no, i've got the arrays up and installed
[08:08] <MrKB> varunendra - what are you reasons?
[08:08] <Azorian> how many raid arrays do you have configured?
[08:08] <thechris> Azorian: grub just won't install
[08:08] <X-Sleepy-X> varunendra: i see, well then i guess you gotta make due with what you got... :)
[08:09] <thechris> Azorian: during the ubuntu installer, it failed at "grub-install /dev/sda /dev/sdb"
[08:09] <Azorian> thechris: have you considered installing grub to a flat partition outside of the arrays?
[08:10] <varunendra> Not a problem now. I've got used to it. Guess it'll still take some time to get 3G here. X-Sleepy-X , MrKB
[08:10] <thechris> Azorian: That wouldn't be useful as a single disk failure would take out the single boot partition
[08:10] <rioch> histo: none of those tools show the gui that I used in ubuntu. Are there others?
[08:10] <MrKB> varunendra - yeah but why put up with it?
[08:10] <Azorian> can you tell me how grub would/should work if installed to multiple partitions?
[08:10] <X-Sleepy-X> varunendra: just call customer service and demand it :P
[08:10] <MrKB> also varunendra - trying to compile wifi driver on my permanent install of 12.04
[08:10] <thechris> Azorian: which is what happened the last time I did this -- i had /boot on a raid1 array, but only install grub's bootloader onto the first drive, which then failed.
[08:10] <MrKB> it's asking for root password
[08:10] <Azorian> i've never done a multi-part grub install
[08:10] <MrKB> which I don't know what it is O_o
[08:11] <Azorian> nvm, I see the point
[08:11] <theadmin> MrKB: No root password on Ubuntu, use sudo
[08:11] <Azorian> one simply takes over upon complete failure of the other
[08:11] <MrKB> varunendra - weird part is, the wifi was working and then all of a suddently it died
[08:11] <theadmin> MrKB: (with your user password)
[08:11] <X-Sleepy-X> !sudo | MrKB
[08:11] <varunendra> Customer services in India :D = joke of the day ! X-Sleepy-X
[08:11] <MrKB> got it, thanks theadmin
[08:12] <MrKB> lol varunendra
[08:12] <X-Sleepy-X> varunendra: haha!
[08:12] <Azorian> thechris: i wish I was of more help on this subject, onfortunately my budget is too shitty to have a nice multi-raid configuration which would give me better experience with this specific area
[08:12] <rioch> \quit
[08:13] <theadmin> varunendra: Eh, you have no idea about customer services in Russia... "You're running 'Linux'? Uh, okay, close that and click on your Start button..."
[08:13] <varunendra> :D LOL theadmin
[08:13] <tr0n> xexe
[08:13] <thechris> Azorian: well I just get more annoyed at ubuntu when things don't work because it is promoted as something that is easy.
[08:14] <varunendra> MrKB, you will have to redo the compilation > installation
[08:14] <MrKB> yes varunendra
[08:14] <MrKB> just did it. works :)
[08:14] <thechris> Azorian: that and the need to search for year-specific docs because things change every year...
[08:14] <MrKB> thanks again for that
[08:14] <Azorian> thechris: generally speaking it is very easy but I think that view point is geared more toward tradition configurations
[08:14] <varunendra> on every kernel update also. MrKB
[08:14] <MrKB> lovely :P
[08:14] <Azorian> thechris: I can't disagree with that, the docs change a lot
[08:15] <theadmin> thechris: Ubuntu changes a lot itself recently, for the better I have to say, though. 13.04 is definetly way friendlier than 8.10 was, which was my first version
[08:15] <varunendra> thechris, it IS easy when it is, which is not true for everyone :P
[08:15] <Azorian> theadmin: first person I have heard say that
[08:15] <Azorian> theadmin: I think Unity is crap
[08:15] <Azorian> i'm also not a mac fan
[08:15] <theadmin> Azorian: Some do think that. I hate macs, though.
[08:16] <Azorian> i'm more of a gnome fan so unity was a major hassel
[08:16] <Azorian> gnome 3 is the closest I like to come to graphical environments like that
[08:16] <theadmin> Azorian: Xfce provides a classic experience. But I don't mean just Unity, I mean Ubuntu's general app set, Upstart, Software Centre, Update Manager, etc etc
[08:16] <Azorian> unity was dumped within a month of getting it
[08:16] <Azorian> those additions have been nice agreeably so
[08:16] <Azorian> i like upstart and software center changes
[08:16] <Azorian> as for xfce, my experience is still minimal
[08:17] <Azorian> last xfce installation I had seemed really unstable and buggy
[08:17] <MrKB> do UNC paths work on Terminal?
[08:17] <Azorian> could have been a botched install though
[08:17] <MrKB> on Ubuntu*
[08:17]  * MrKB is trying to grab a file from another computer in the network
[08:17] <reisio> could have been the package manager or binaries :p
[08:18] <theadmin> MrKB: Uh, UNC is a Windows thing. Technically, no, you can't "cd //192.168.1.111/myshare", but you can "mount.cifs //192.168.1.111/myshare somedirectory -o user=your_user,password=your_password  && cd somedirectory" :P
[08:18] <histo> MrKB: yes if you have dns setup properly
[08:18] <MrKB> dns? histo
[08:18] <MrKB> on Ubuntu?
[08:18] <histo> MrKB: Is it a windows network?
[08:19] <MrKB> let's go with yes
[08:19] <Em_> hi
[08:19] <X-Sleepy-X> smb://192....
[08:19] <MrKB> orz X-Sleepy-X
[08:19] <pentanol> hello, anyone did client\server with poll\epoll?
[08:19] <theadmin> Azorian: Xubuntu is awesome. It feels almost identical to GNOME 2 in terms of user experience, except Xfce has more features than Gnome2 ever did.
[08:19] <Azorian> really?
[08:19] <Em_> guys I'm trying to find out what -Wall, -W, and -Werror for the gcc program is for, but it doesn't seem to indicate it in the man pages
[08:19] <MrKB> is there workgroups on Ubuntu? If so I need to have this install join my workgroup
[08:19] <theadmin> Azorian: Yep. Try it out :)
[08:19] <Azorian> I downloaded a copy some time ago but never deployed it for testing
[08:19] <Em_> Where can I find that information
[08:19] <Azorian> maybe that will be my target tonight
[08:19] <Azorian> in fact, yes it will be. thank you :)
[08:20] <histo> MrKB: The "easiest" way would be for you to edit your /etc/hosts and just put someip hostname
[08:20] <theadmin> Azorian: Is what I recommend for "classic Ubuntu" fans
[08:20] <thechris> Em_: they are warnings options.  you can google search for them if you remove the -
[08:20] <histo> MrKB: there are other options such as using winbind but I've experienced issues with it.
[08:20] <Azorian> we'll see how it comes out for sure
[08:20] <MrKB> I see histo
[08:20] <Em_> thechris; 'man gcc | grep '-W'' < is that the right command to display where the -W in the man page?
[08:20] <Azorian> i'm mainly a gnome 2 whore because of my excessive use of compiz desktop cube
[08:21] <Azorian> I love getting the oohs and awws from friends
[08:21] <MrKB> cd smb://192.168.1.103 is not working X-Sleepy-X
[08:21] <mesoderm> Reason #723 to use Ubuntu: "Microsoft Waits to Fix Your Software Bugs So the NSA Can Use Them First" --> http://news.yahoo.com/microsoft-waits-fix-software-bugs-nsa-them-first-140237627.html
[08:21] <Azorian> you should see them when I increase from 4 workspaces (a cube) to like 12, their mind gets blown like a fucking 44 magnum through the skull lol
[08:22] <thechris> Em_: if that works, it will probably just display -W, as the description would be on the next line
[08:22] <histo> MrKB: you can't cd there you have to mount it
[08:22] <rudolf_> I have a portable hard disk that i used in windows 7
[08:22] <histo> MrKB: mount -t cifs //192.168.1.103 /some/mount/point
[08:22] <Em_> thechris: Well, it doesn't. Hehehe
[08:22] <histo> rudolf_: good for you.
[08:22] <rudolf_> I locked it using the software provided with it and now I am unable to unlock it on ububntu. What to do??
[08:22] <histo> rudolf_: do you need the data on it?
[08:22] <reisio> Azorian: what does GNOME 2 have to do with compiz?...
[08:22] <rudolf_> histo yeah
[08:23] <MrKB> what is a mount ponit histo
[08:23] <X-Sleepy-X> MrKB: i think you need to install samba first
[08:23] <MrKB> oh X-Sleepy-X
[08:23] <varunendra> MrKB, maybe relevant - How to fix windows shared browsing issues : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1169149
[08:23] <histo> MrKB: some directory where you want to look at your files from the network locally
[08:23] <MrKB> thnks varunendra
[08:23] <histo> rudolf_: what kind of disk is it and what kind of "lock"?
[08:24] <varunendra> MrKB, X-Sleepy-X as far as I know, samba client is already installed on Ubuntu. Only server needs to be installed.
[08:24] <rudolf_> histo, I dont know what sort of lock it was. There was a software that came with the hard disk.
[08:24] <X-Sleepy-X> at work i use cifs-utils
[08:24] <MrKB> histo - getting an error from mount
[08:24] <histo> rudolf_: what type of hard disk is it?
[08:24] <MrKB> I did [ sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.103 /Desktop ]
[08:25] <histo> MrKB: I missed the part about why you are trying to mount something?
[08:25] <MrKB> want to access shared files
[08:25] <rudolf_> histo, portable hard disk that I connnect through usb. What else can I tell about its type?
[08:25] <MrKB> on a winxp box
[08:25] <PlastikSpork> MrKB https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ComprehensiveSambaGuide
[08:25] <MrKB> also how do I go about installing synergy? dl from their website?
[08:25] <MrKB> thanks PlastikSpork
[08:25] <histo> rudolf_: Yes the manufacturer would help perhaps. I can find what sort of "lock" they use.
[08:25] <rudolf_> histo, its from Western Digital.
[08:26] <MrKB> that link says it's for old versions
[08:26] <histo> rudolf_: is it a mybook?
[08:26] <PlastikSpork> MrKB you are welcome. after you read the wiki and you still have questions feel free to ask.
[08:26] <MrKB> points me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba?action=show&redirect=SettingUpSamba PlastikSpork
[08:26] <histo> MrKB: don't mount to your /Desktop
[08:26] <histo> MrKB: mkdir
[08:26] <rudolf_> histo, my passport
[08:26] <rudolf_> histo, my passport 500GB
[08:27] <X-Sleepy-X> rudolf_: did you do a "safe dismount" in windows before disconnecting it?
[08:27] <histo> MrKB: mkdir ~/mount && sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.103 /home/USERNAME/mount
[08:27] <Em_> Oh, I Understand now. -W interfered with the warning messages while -Werror and -Wall will capture them and displkay them as errors
[08:27] <rudolf_> X-Sleepy-X yeah
[08:27] <histo> rudolf_: let me check hold up?
[08:27] <MrKB> I made a folder called jaime-computer histo, on my desktop
[08:27] <MrKB> is that ok?
[08:27] <MrKB> or can I not mount to dirs on my desktop either?
[08:27] <rudolf_> histo okies
[08:29] <reisio> MrKB: you can, if you want to
[08:29] <MrKB> it's still giving me an error
[08:29] <reisio> what is?
[08:29] <rudolf_> hey reisio
[08:29] <MrKB> mount
[08:29] <reisio> hey rud
[08:29] <reisio> MrKB: mount what?
[08:30] <MrKB> I'm doing [ sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.1.103 ./Desktop/jaime-computer
[08:30] <MrKB>  ]
[08:30] <MrKB> one of my WinXP computers
[08:30] <MrKB> trying to get a file off of it
[08:30] <tr0n> best to just type rm -rf /windows
[08:30] <X-Sleepy-X> MrKB: you need the full dirs i would think
[08:31] <MrKB> I tried //192.168.1.103/d as well X-Sleepy-X, didn't work
[08:31] <MrKB> but thanks (:
[08:31] <histo> MrKB: because when you use sudo ./Desktop/jaime-computer is not /home/username/Desktop/jaime-computer
[08:31] <rudolf_> reisio, You still on ##windows too?
[08:31] <histo> MrKB: you can also browse the network in nautilus and just click on your share and mount it.
[08:31] <reisio> rudolf_: only when I change my nick :p
[08:32] <MrKB> histo it's not telling me that the mount point doesn't exist like it does when I take out the .
[08:32] <MrKB> so it must be fine
[08:32] <MrKB> histo
[08:32] <rudolf_> reisio, you use a different nick for ##windows?
[08:32] <MrKB> histo - can't browse the network
[08:32] <MrKB> after some waiting time, I get an error
[08:32] <tr0n> dual booters who still use win arn't true linux users, just paying lip service while continuing to worship the evil M$ empire
[08:32] <reisio> MrKB: you might need to give a user & password, too
[08:33] <X-Sleepy-X> MrKB: i think it was this guide i used at my workstation: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[08:33] <reisio> -o "username=foo"
[08:33] <MrKB> thanks X-Sleepy-X
[08:33] <rudolf_> reisio, who banned you there?? And why? I have not been there since months. Switched to ubuntu :)
[08:34] <MrKB> ok the first thing I want is to install Synergy
[08:34] <reisio> ok
[08:34] <MrKB> do I go to their website or do I use the software center?
[08:34] <MrKB> or apt-get?
[08:34] <histo> rudolf_: you are out of luck unless you know your password or you want to pay some money for the one company I found that reverse engineered their locking application.
[08:34] <reisio> MrKB: software center or apt-get
[08:35] <MrKB> which one? lol
[08:35] <reisio> MrKB: finding things is for Windows & Mac OS users
[08:35] <MrKB> I see
[08:35] <reisio> MrKB: whichever you please
[08:35] <rudolf_> histo, I can try REing it...But i dunno the strength. :| They should have provided linux compatible software.
[08:36] <MrKB> reisio - so why do websites include installers for ubuntu and such then?
[08:36] <rudolf_> reisio, lol
[08:36] <reisio> MrKB: because old habits die hard
[08:36] <MrKB> varunendra :( after rebooting because of some updates, wifi is not working again
[08:36] <MrKB> work your magic O_O
[08:36] <reisio> they'd rather make newbies be silent instead of teaching them the proper way
[08:37] <MrKB> why is apt-get or software center more proper than visint a website?
[08:37] <MrKB> just cause?
[08:37] <varunendra> You might have got a kernel upgrade :) MrKB
[08:37] <MrKB> or is there an inherent advantage?
[08:37] <MrKB> really? -_- varunendra
[08:37] <MrKB> ok then
[08:37] <histo> rudolf_: REing???  They don't have linux software just windows & mac
[08:37] <varunendra> MrKB, it is (apt, USC) a trusted source with all the dependencies in one place.
[08:38] <histo> rudolf_: don't use their locking mechanism. Use something else if you want encryption. Especially since their locking mech has been cracked.
[08:38] <reisio> MrKB: both are more accessible than a random website
[08:38] <thechris> MrKB, it prevents every app from needing its own "auto-update" function
[08:38] <MrKB> thechris - i see
[08:39] <MrKB> reisio - so will it always be up-to-date? as quick as the website?
[08:39] <reisio> MrKB: wha?
[08:39] <rudolf_> histo, I think WD should provide support in such case. And REing=Reverse Engg.. Yeah you are right.
[08:39] <MrKB> the repos for apt-get and USC
[08:39] <reisio> MrKB: I don't know what you're asking
[08:39] <reisio> MrKB: links in your browser that install things still use your package manager
[08:39] <MrKB> like if the author of Synergy would release a new version right now on his website
[08:39] <MrKB> how long till it propagates?
[08:40] <MrKB> reisio - I see
[08:40] <reisio> they just do it _after_ you waste time opening a browser and finding a specific website
[08:40] <MrKB> varunendra - dependancies?
[08:40] <reisio> I should say, links that use apt:// or wtfevr
[08:40] <MrKB> dependencies*?
[08:40] <reisio> if you're looking for 'foo', open a terminal, type apt-cache search foo
[08:40] <reisio> open software center, use the search input
[08:40] <reisio> it's faster
[08:40] <histo> rudolf_: Do you have the password?
[08:41] <rudolf_> histo, yeah I think so
[08:41] <varunendra> MrKB, yes, almost all packages need various libraries and support packages that are not included in one package. These package managers take care of that and avoid conflicts/duplicating.
[08:42] <MrKB> varunendra - re-compiling/re-installing the driver worked. I guess I did have a kernel update :)
[08:42] <histo> rudolf_: then borrow a windows machine or make a vm and unlock and disable that garbage
[08:42] <GinToniCooL> debian can't record boot log,why
[08:42] <MrKB> varunendra - I see
[08:42] <Guest37391> люди помогите
[08:42] <histo> GinToniCooL: ask in #debian
[08:42] <varunendra> Hopefully, you won't have a kernel upgrade every other day ;) MrKB
[08:42] <Guest37391> help
[08:42] <rudolf_> But I dnt have a windows pc nearby... :( And I dont have a broadband to download live cd either.
[08:42]  * MrKB saved the appropriate code just in case ;)
[08:43] <Zeev> hello.
[08:43] <MrKB> USC shows two results for Synergy
[08:43] <reisio> Guest37391: #ubuntu-ru
[08:43] <histo> Guest37391: help with what?
[08:43] <MrKB> one is just synergy apparently and the other one is QuickSynergy, which is apparently a GUI for it
[08:43] <Zeev> I want to install some package that is not available on software sources
[08:44] <MrKB> on Windows, Synergy already has a GUI O_o
[08:44] <reisio> Zeev: which one?
[08:44] <histo> Zeev: what package is that?
[08:44] <reisio> MrKB: already?
[08:44] <MrKB> well the fact that QuickSynergy exists implies that regular synergy = no GUI
[08:44] <histo> wth is synergy?
[08:45] <MrKB> do a search for Synergy on USF. What do you see?
[08:45] <MrKB> think of it like a kvm switch, without the m, histo
[08:45] <histo> MrKB: no mouse?
[08:45] <MrKB> it lets me share a mouse and keyboard between computers, over the network
[08:45] <MrKB> cross-platform
[08:45] <histo> MrKB: then it does have an m
[08:45] <MrKB> no video, sorry
[08:45] <reisio> MrKB: Windows users explode if they aren't given a GUI, that's why
[08:45] <MrKB> was thinking m = monitor
[08:45] <MrKB> <-- almost 5AM
[08:45] <histo> MrKB: silliness
[08:45] <FloodBot1> MrKB: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:45] <reisio> MrKB: you have the option over here in Unix land
[08:45] <zg> who manages cdimage.ubuntu.com
[08:45] <reisio> synergy takes a tiny text configuration to get working
[08:45] <Zeev> I need to compile from sources (./configure && make && make install), and my question is: into which directory in the directory tree do I put the extracted .tar.gz so it would most closely resemble the as if it was installed using package manager, /usr/bin?
[08:46] <MrKB> die FloodBot1, die.
[08:46] <reisio> if you want a GUI to do that, go ahead and use it
[08:46] <Zeev> I'm kinda a newbie in this really.
[08:46] <MrKB> no GUI = scary
[08:46] <Guest37391> pidorasy
[08:46] <theadmin> Zeev: Replace "make install" with "checkinstall" and you're good :P
[08:46] <histo> !info quicksynergy | MrKB
[08:46] <Guest37391> help
[08:46] <histo> Zeev: what package are you trying to compile?
[08:46] <MrKB> histo?
[08:46] <varunendra> MrKB, and here are users who prefer cli for even photo touching/ basic editing (imagemagick)
[08:47] <Zeev> histo: opam (http://opam.ocamlpro.com/doc/Quick_Install.html)
[08:47] <reisio> imagemagick is much more efficient
[08:47] <Tm_T> Zeev: when you unpack the source package, it doesn't matter where you do that, what matters is where it will be installed with "make install"
[08:47] <MrKB> varunendra - wow
[08:47] <histo> MrKB: sorry miss-understood thought you were saying there is no gui
[08:47] <MrKB> oh
[08:47] <Guest37391> http://peers.sytes.net/index.php
[08:47] <varunendra> I myself am one using a self made script for basic photo touching. Really fast and flexible.
[08:47] <theadmin> Zeev: checkinstall is a wrapper around make install which builds a proper Ubuntu package so that you can uninstall it with APT and update it properly later
[08:48] <histo> Zeev: http://opam.ocamlpro.com/doc/Quick_Install.html
[08:48] <histo> Zeev: do you see the debian and ubuntu instructions?
[08:48] <Zeev> theadmin: ok.
[08:48] <MrKB> ok I installed synergy, the regular one
[08:48] <Zeev> histo: doesn't werk
[08:48] <MrKB> now what? I don't see it anywhere
[08:48] <MrKB> how do I even reference it in CLI
[08:48] <Zeev> histo: otherwise I wouldn't be asking 'bout it here
[08:48]  * MrKB needs a beginner's guide to Ubuntu/Linux
[08:49] <histo> MrKB: you could man -k synergy  to see if there is any documentation
[08:49] <Guest37391> verlihub ne compile 1.0.0  no compile
[08:49] <reisio> MrKB: dpkg -L synergy
[08:49] <reisio> MrKB: but use the GUI if you want a GUI, sheesh
[08:49]  * MrKB wants to try to real-man it and do it through CLI
[08:49] <Guest37391> hubuntu 12/10
[08:49] <MrKB> face your fears! O_O
[08:50] <reisio> MrKB: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynergyHowto
[08:50] <MrKB> thanks reisio
[08:52] <varunendra> MrKB, the point in using GUI or CLI is what suits you more, It is not about "bravery" :P
[08:52] <MrKB> I'm a fast typer varunendra, CLI suits me more
[08:52] <MrKB> just need to learn to use it
[08:53]  * MrKB enjoys the keyboard and keyboard shortcuts more than fail mouse
[08:53] <varunendra> Good then ! :)
[08:53] <varunendra> soul, MrKB do you happen to sleep sometime?
[08:53] <varunendra> so *
[08:53] <MrKB> yeah
[08:53] <MrKB> eventually
[08:53] <MrKB> I'm having too much fun lol
[08:54] <MrKB> have you noticed I haven't even booted into 13.04 live? Having too much fun with 12.04 XD
[08:54] <MrKB> reisio - what is dpkg -L synergy supposed to do? I just see a list
[08:54] <varunendra> Nope, I'm multitasking atm. :P
[08:55] <histo> MrKB: dpkg -L packagename  lists files from packagename
[08:55] <MrKB> oh i SEE
[08:55] <MrKB> I see*
[08:59] <Zeev> theadmin, histo, Tm_T: should I run those commands from root term? just a newbie q
[08:59] <Zeev> root xterm*
[08:59] <MrKB> omg I got it working
[09:00] <MrKB> I'm the man
[09:00] <zg> i plugged in my Nexus 7 and it's not listed under /media
[09:00] <MrKB> all I had to do was [ synergyc -f 192.168.1.118 ]
[09:00] <MrKB> O_O
[09:00] <zg> any ideas where it's mountpoint is?
[09:00] <histo> !sudo | Zeev
[09:00] <varunendra> MrKB, Yay!!
[09:00] <varunendra> Man of the day!
[09:00] <theadmin> Zeev: checkinstall? Yes, that should be ran under sudo
[09:00] <histo> zg: just type "mount"   in a terminal will print all mounted items
[09:01] <Zeev> theadmin: thanks.
[09:01] <MrKB> varunendra :D
[09:01] <ggherdov> hi all. When I run program like emacs I get a "fontconfig error" , full trascript here http://bpaste.net/show/f3ZNMKrJZz5HlKZSLvAW/ . why so ?
[09:01] <ggherdov> how to fix?
[09:02] <varunendra> Okay guys, time to watch some cool movie.. see you later..
[09:02] <MrKB> how do I stop synergyc
[09:03] <MrKB> I want to restart it with a new para
[09:03] <MrKB> thanks again varunendra, you're awesome
[09:03] <histo> MrKB: is it running in the background? or did it take control of your temrinal?
[09:03] <MrKB> background
[09:03] <varunendra> welcome (that's what varun was waiting to hear before leaving ;)) MrKB
[09:03] <MrKB> I had it running in terminal but once I got the configuration down pat, I made it run in background
[09:03] <histo> MrKB: killall synerygc
[09:04] <rudolf_> Cant I mount windows boot partition in ubuntu if windows has been hibernated?
[09:04] <histo> MrKB: hopefully you don't have to to restart on kill
[09:04] <MrKB> thanks histo, that worked
[09:04] <histo> rudolf_: you should be able to yes
[09:04] <MrKB> how would I know if I need to restart? it would tell me?
[09:04] <histo> !kill | MrKB
[09:05] <rudolf_> histo, I am trying to but ubuntu is saying "unable to mount, windows is hibernated."
[09:05] <rudolf_> and "failed to mount. Operation not permitted.".
[09:06] <rudolf_> "The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown
[09:06] <rudolf_> Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume
[09:06] <rudolf_> read-only with the 'ro' mount option."
[09:06] <MrKB> time for me to retire to bed
[09:06] <histo> rudolf_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/145902/unable-to-mount-windows-ntfs-filesystem-due-to-hibernation
[09:06] <MrKB> thank you very much guys, you have all been great and an amazing help
[09:06] <MrKB> You made my fist day of Ubuntu a great one :)
[09:08] <rudolf_> histo, that means I cant mount the partition if windows is hibernated. I never knew it.
[09:08] <histo> rudolf_: yes you can
[09:08] <rudolf_> histo, but only in read only mode
[09:09] <histo> rudolf_: it's just silly to do it but Option 3 on that page about deleting the hiberfile.sys is the only way to rw
[09:09] <histo> rudolf_: Why don't you actually shutdown properly next time.
[09:09] <histo> or don't use windows
[09:10] <histo> rudolf_: that page explains pretty well why you shouldn't mount rw
[09:10] <rudolf_> Yeah, I dont use now...I just installed it to get my portable hard disk back.
[09:10] <snpresent> hello
[09:10] <reisio> 'lo
[09:10] <rudolf_> histo, but the hibernation file also resides in my C drive! So I need to reboot.
[09:11] <rudolf_> or no...I can try using that command.
[09:11] <histo> rudolf_: What do you need to do with the data on your windows drive?
[09:11] <histo> rudolf_: copy it out and make changes
[09:11] <histo> snpresent: hello
[09:12] <rudolf_> Yeah right :)
[09:12] <snpresent> histo hello what's up my friend?
[09:13] <histo> snpresent: not much. Do you have a ubuntu related question?
[09:13] <rudolf_> histo, ok thanks....gonna boot into windows btw to unlock my hard disk now.
[09:15] <snpresent> histo yes then who are you,my friend?
[09:15] <histo> !ask | snpresent
[09:20] <snpresent> histo since when ubuntu auto detected bugs,when system auto repot them i do not need to login my launchpad account?
[09:21] <histo> snpresent: I have no idea
[09:21] <snpresent> then who knows?
[09:26] <theadmin> snpresent: You do need to sign in, it opens a browser with the report page in Launchpad and asks you to sign in
[09:27] <juan_> hola
[09:28] <snpresent> theadmin now the system do not open browser to let me login ,seems like auto record bugs to developer's server,why?
[09:28] <histo> !bug | snpresent
[09:28] <theadmin> snpresent: Hmm... I dunno, I haven't used Apport for a while, if I find a bug I file it manually using ubuntu-bug, that opens a browser
[09:31] <snpresent> theadmin yes Apport not open any browser when it auto report bugs any more now!
[09:31] <snpresent> weird!
[09:52] <newbee> hey guys
[09:52] <newbee> I need some help
[09:54] <newbee> for a few weeks empathy asks me for my passwords every time I start it. It does not remember any password at all. And it always claims that the ssl-certificates are self-signed although I have acceptet that on every empathy-session
[09:54] <newbee> I also reinstalled it. Did not help
[09:55] <newbee> And I wonder what I can do to get the old compfort of a just working, nice looking multiprotocol IM-program back...
[09:55] <newbee> I would really appreciat some help! :-)
[09:57] <kiamo> hi there
[09:57] <kiamo> I just installed ubuntu on my ssd alongside an old installation of windows 8
[09:57] <kiamo> however, upon restarting, I am just booted straight back into windows.  I never see grub.  Any ideas?
[09:58] <drlector> hellooooooooooooo
[09:59] <root____3> ?
[09:59] <drlector> anyone here ?
[09:59] <root____3> quit
[09:59] <drlector> :(
[09:59] <kiamo> doesn't look like there are any admins about
[10:00] <kiamo> only floodbots... haha
[10:00] <drlector> o nise
[10:00] <drlector> o nose*
[10:00] <newbee> #ubuntu-de
[10:01] <drlector> i need help please
[10:01] <drlector> :(
[10:01] <drlector> or ratherjust advice
[10:01] <drlector> from anyone who is awake at least :P
[10:02] <drlector> guess everyone is asleep
[10:02] <drlector> :(
[10:02] <newbee> I am not. But I need help, too... . Probably can't help you
[10:02] <kiamo> just ask your questions
[10:03] <kiamo> if anyone can help, they might
[10:03] <OltreIrc`6627> ciao
[10:03] <OltreIrc`6627> !list
[10:03] <drlector> I made a critical mistake
[10:03] <kiamo> don't wait for someone to invite you to ask for help... haha
[10:03] <drlector> i installed windows 8
[10:03] <drlector> :(
[10:03] <drlector> LOL!
[10:03] <newbee> I already did. About Empathy forgetting passwords all the time.
[10:03] <drlector> I know
[10:03] <FloodBot1> drlector: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:04] <drlector> i have all my old windows 7 files and folders still on the hdd
[10:04] <drlector> i just need to get a different operating system loaded so that i can copy and rename them
[10:04] <drlector> here is my problem
[10:04] <drlector> puppy linux is giving me hassles
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> drlector: install ubuntu 13.04 and loose windows once and for good :p
[10:05] <drlector> i downloaded and installed lucid puppy linux
[10:06] <drlector> lol @ lotus if only have to resuce my sheeet first
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> drlector: you can dualboot with win7 at first, recover your files and then do a clean
[10:06] <drlector> i cant dual boot dude :(
[10:06]  * drlector facepalm
[10:07] <kiamo> just install whatever version of linux you want on a slice of free space, and then mount the ntfs partition to access the data
[10:07] <drlector> i would loe to try linux and all but dos like commands = no
[10:07] <drlector> puppy linux gives me this , and it honestly means nothing to me
[10:07] <kiamo> drlector: they aren't dos like... they are waaaaaaaaaaaaay better.
[10:07] <kiamo> ;)
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> drlector: ubuntu changed alot, you can do all gui if you like and many alternatives
[10:08] <drlector> Grub is installed on your computer but the installed cant find menu.1st please manually add the following to it...
[10:08] <drlector> then it all goes pear shaped
[10:09] <drlector> title lucid puppy linux 528jp
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> drlector: this is an ubuntu support channel, not puppy
[10:09] <drlector> find --set-root--ignore-floppies /puppy-linux-528JP/initrd.gz
[10:10] <kiamo> drlector: I just followed this to hopefully solve my own dual boot woes
[10:10] <kiamo> http://apcmag.com/how-to-dual-boot-windows-8-and-linux.htm
[10:10] <drlector> i know lotus it is just nonne of this makes sense to me
[10:10] <kiamo> im gonna reboot now and hope I can boot into ubuntu from the windows 8 boot menu
[10:10] <kiamo> ciao
[10:10] <drlector> cua kiamo
[10:10] <drlector> will have a look at the link thanks
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> drlector: just install 13.04 and choose dualboot with win7 then you will be able to access your hd
[10:11] <drlector> thanks lotus i have got the windows installer downloading a version of ubuntu now
[10:11] <drlector> 12.04.02
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> drlector: i think they dropped wubi support
[10:12] <drlector> is that good or bad lotus ?
[10:13] <drlector> my first attempt at linux told me to mount my cd in a shell , which sounded kinky but was not pratical
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> drlector: well you can try with unetbooting or burn an ubuntu to dvd
[10:14] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | drlector
[10:15] <praeconium> Hi guys, I've got a 200 MB file with text, and I need one particular pattern that occurs, "value=????" .. should I use SED to delete everything except it, or GREP to find only that?
[10:15] <drlector> :(
[10:15] <drlector> so 12.04 is crappy then lotus ?
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> drlector: no and plz watch language
[10:16] <drlector> soz dude
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> drlector: 12.04 is very good aswell
[10:16] <drlector> but 13 = better
[10:16]  * drlector facepalm
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> drlector: just try any version to recover your data, then i recommend clean install 13.04
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> drlector: you will forget your windows nightmare soon :p
[10:17] <drlector> lol
[10:17] <drlector> LIES!
[10:18] <aldur1> morning all
[10:18] <drlector> linux is no good for gaming from what i can remember
[10:18] <drlector> hi aldur1
[10:18] <aldur1> can anyone help me with an issue im having installing eclipse-rse
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> drlector: there are many alternatives these days: wine, playonlinux, steam
[10:18] <aldur1> output here:
[10:18] <aldur1> http://pastebin.com/zedyfzx4
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> drlector: check alienware gaming pc's with ubuntu
[10:19] <drlector> 53 minutes left of the download
[10:19] <drlector> then i out your words to the test lotus :P
[10:19] <aldur1> i tried apt-get -f -force-yes --fix-missing install eclipse-rse
[10:19] <drlector> ^^^^^ see
[10:19] <aldur1> but it cant download the java files
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> drlector: you wont be dissapointed
[10:19] <drlector> apt-get...... = no sense
[10:20] <aldur1> Get:1 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main libcommons-cli-java all 1.2-3 [39.2 kB]
[10:20] <aldur1> Get:2 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise/main junit4 all 4.8.2-2 [205 kB]
[10:20]  * drlector shakes fist at code
[10:20] <aldur1> Fetched 244 kB in 0s (859 kB/s)
[10:20] <aldur1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libc/libcommons-cli-java/libcommons-cli-java_1.2-3_all.deb  Size mismatch
[10:20] <FloodBot1> aldur1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> drlector: plz behave, this is a support channel remember
[10:20] <aldur1> Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/j/junit4/junit4_4.8.2-2_all.deb  Size mismatch
[10:20] <aldur1> i reckon it must be some dodgey reps
[10:20] <drlector> i know dude just having fun
[10:20] <drlector> :s
[10:20] <aldur1> but still fairly new to linux
[10:21] <aldur1> so no idea where to start with fixing ths
[10:24] <Ben64> aldur1: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:24] <drlector> any command lines in the installation of 12.04 ?
[10:24] <drlector> or is it just point and click ?
[10:24] <aldur1> Ben64: i tried that last night
[10:24] <aldur1> i will try again just in case i did it wrong though
[10:25] <Ben64> drlector: alternate cd is cli based
[10:25] <drlector> forgive me ... cli ?
[10:25] <Ben64> cli = command line interface
[10:25] <aldur1> command line interface
[10:26] <drlector> so i am toast then ....... i dont know the commands
[10:26] <Ben64> what are you trying to do
[10:26] <drlector> install ubuntu
[10:26] <aldur1> drlector: it is very quick to learn
[10:27] <aldur1> and it is MUCH easier than windows in many respects imho
[10:27] <Ben64> oh, well you don't need to type anything on a console to install ubuntu
[10:27] <Ben64> i thought you were asking for a cli cd
[10:27] <fongseiyuc> Hi. I have an Intel HD Graphics 3000. What can do to get it running ?
[10:27] <Ben64> fongseiyuc: intel works out of the box
[10:27] <drlector> call me old , point and click :)
[10:28] <aldur1> Ben64: just ran those again
[10:28] <aldur1> still no joy
[10:28] <fongseiyuc> Ben64, Strange, we made an Install of Current Ubuntu. And screen blanks when starting X
[10:29] <drlector> i tired fedora this morning ......... no joy
[10:29] <drlector> ubuntu > fedora ?
[10:30] <Ben64> fongseiyuc: some posts on this forum http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2094279&page=2 say that installing mesa-utils makes intel better/faster
[10:30] <fongseiyuc> Ben64, Thats cool too :-D
[10:30] <fongseiyuc> ;-)
[10:32] <drlector> has anyone here seen or used windows 8 ?
[10:34] <fongseiyuc> lol
[10:35] <bekks> drlector: Clarify the relevance for ubuntu please :)
[10:35] <drlector> windows 8 = from satan himself
[10:35] <drlector> aka bill gates
[10:35] <bekks> !ot | drlector
[10:36] <fongseiyuc> Are the Images available here live versions of Ubuntu: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop  And can i put them on USB by doing: dd if=The-IMAGE of=The-Device ?
[10:38] <fongseiyuc> found help here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[10:39] <fongseiyuc> Thanks anyway
[10:40] <jbertrand> hello?
[10:40] <jbertrand> anyone here?
[10:41] <bekks> jbertrand: several hundreds, according to "/names".
[10:41] <jbertrand> i'm new
[10:42] <jbertrand> not a unix newb but an xchat newb
[10:43] <LIP> jbertrand: people many times don't talk unless they are answering a technical question in here
[10:43] <jbertrand> i'm on freebsd with an ubuntu ios and never tried xchat
[10:43] <jbertrand> oh this isn't a chat site then?
[10:43] <jbertrand> just for tech questions for newbies?
[10:44] <LIP> no, #ubuntu is a technical support channel for Ubuntu
[10:44] <LIP> not simply newbies, experienced people as well who need to bounce things off
[10:44] <LIP> !ot
[10:44] <jbertrand> oh ok sorry
[10:44] <LIP> so there is that, there are other off topic/general chat channels on freenode though
[10:44] <aldur1> Ben64: i just added a debian rep to my sources
[10:45] <aldur1> gonna see once the update is donee
[10:45] <aldur1> if that solves issue
[10:45]  * LIP goes back to updating XChat to remove some bugs
[10:45] <aldur1> 30 min remaining >_<
[10:45] <jbertrand> ok well i have a question then
[10:46] <aldur1> xchat euggh
[10:46] <aldur1> irssi ftw
[10:46] <jbertrand> i have a pc i upgraded from 12.1 to 13.04, but the touchpad settings remain the same from 12.1 and 13.04 won't let me change the settings
[10:46] <LIP> to each their own
[10:47] <aldur1> xhcat is gui only though right?
[10:47] <jbertrand> even wrote to .conf and even tried deleting it
[10:47] <LIP> aldur1: you won't hear me agree to your sentement, I'm quite likely the "biggest" xchat user
[10:47] <Ben64> aldur1: thats a very bad idea
[10:47] <aldur1> Ben64: ?
[10:48] <Ben64> adding debian repo
[10:48] <LIP> aldur1: no, there is xchat-text, however I wouldn't recommend using it, only good enough for bot usage ATM, as in, or if you are only ever in just one channel
[10:48] <aldur1> should i cancel and remove?
[10:48] <bekks> aldur1: Using a debian repo will most likely break your system.
[10:48] <Ben64> maybe you messing around with unsupported repositories caused your initial problem
[10:48]  * aldur1 cancels
[10:48]  * LIP somehow missed saying "as in it spits everything to the same buffer"
[10:49] <jbertrand> ok so is there a chat for ubuntu users for small talk?
[10:49] <Ben64> #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:49] <jbertrand> no one wants to refer to my tech question so what's the point?
[10:49] <drlector> random question anyone here from south africa ?
[10:50] <drlector> who uses ubuntu
[10:50] <aldur1> Ben64: would you suggest i just download the soruces and manually install instead for the packages casuing problems
[10:50] <Ben64> jbertrand: you just asked for the chat channel... but you don't want it?
[10:50] <LIP> jbertrand: I don't even use Ubuntu myself, I couldn't answer, I'm simply in here because i need a large channel for my development ;)
[10:51] <Ben64> aldur1: no... stop doing things weird ways and stuff won't break
[10:51] <jbertrand> ben64>no i asked a question referring to mouse settings
[10:51] <LIP> Ben64: <jbertrand> i have a pc i upgraded from 12.1 to 13.04, but the touchpad settings remain the same from 12.1 and 13.04 won't let me change the settings
[10:51] <aldur1> LIP: yeah i mostly use from a shell
[10:51] <aldur1> LIP: so irssi is great with screen support
[10:51] <illusion_> hi, i want to use 2 filter with ffmpeg delogo and watermark , please correct my command line
[10:52] <jbertrand> i'm not a unix newb, but i'm definitely an xchat newb
[10:52] <LIP> aldur1: right, so screen users aren't the target demographic for XChat, and I'm fine with that
[10:52] <illusion_>  ffmpeg -re -i file.mp4 -vf "delogo=x=0:y=0:w=170:h=60:band=5" -s 640x360 -vb 600k -acodec copy -f flv rtmp://test.com
[10:52] <LIP> jbertrand: this isn't about being an XChat newb, just not used to dealing with support on an IRC network
[10:52] <aldur1> Ben64: i havnt done anything weird
[10:52] <aldur1> first time i added a rep to sources
[10:52] <LIP> you've yet to ask a XChat specific question, so it isn't about being an xchat newb
[10:53] <illusion_> how to add this :  "movie=logo.png [watermark]; [in][watermark] overlay=main_w-overlay_w-10:10 [out]"
[10:53] <aldur1> issuue is in paste bin: http://pastebin.com/zedyfzx4
[10:53] <Ben64> this isn't #xchat btw
[10:53] <samba35> i have install windows 8 as a guest on 12.04 now i do i access usb drive in windows
[10:53] <LIP> Ben64: I know, I'm just addressing what is being said
[10:53] <jbertrand> lip>i asked a question about xchat and was told it was specifically for tech support
[10:53] <drlector> samba go to my computer on the desktop
[10:54] <jbertrand> i was hoping it was just a friendly chat
[10:54] <aldur1> Ben64: would it help if you saw my sources?
[10:55] <Ben64> aldur1: you should try a different mirror
[10:55] <jbertrand> i'm not going to a/s/l or anything but what is xchat then?
[10:55] <aldur1> Ben64: how do i do that?
[10:55] <Ben64> for chatting, #ubuntu-offtopic , for xchat support, #xchat
[10:55] <aldur1> is there a list somewhere specific to ubuntu?
[10:55] <Ben64> aldur1: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[10:56] <aldur1> Ben64: thanks, I will take a look and try, might be back though ;)
[10:56] <LIP> jbertrand: XChat is simply a program to connect to IRC networks, not every channel you can reach with the program is for general chatting
[10:57] <mibofra> hi guys
[10:57] <mibofra> is there an irc channel for the launchpad?
[10:57] <jbertrand> what channel am i currently on? i'm on freebsd right now and this is my first gui
[10:57] <Ben64> this is #ubuntu ...
[10:58] <jbertrand> ok so for general chat i go to ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:59] <Ben64> you can, but if you're not even on ubuntu, maybe try #defocus ?
[11:01] <aldur1> Ben64: that website is awesome, havnt tested results yet
[11:01]  * aldur1 bookmarks
[11:01] <aldur1> thanks for that :)
[11:05] <tking> k
[11:12] <drlector> 25175 in mb is that 25175 meg or 25 gig ?
[11:12] <drlector> how much space does unbuntu need to install ?
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> !requirements | drlector
[11:14] <aldur1> Ben64: looks like that fixed it, thanks a lot man, spent hours last night trying to work that out
[11:16] <drlector> time to see if this works thanks bye
[11:17] <jbertrand> does anyone know how to get nautlis to see networks on xfce?
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: is gvfs installed?
[11:18] <jbertrand> i'm losing my mind
[11:18] <kimmaria> Anyone knows how to fix the keyboardshortcuts bug in XFCE?
[11:18] <jbertrand> brb
[11:19] <Asad2005> Is there a panel icon for show desktop ?
[11:19] <Asad2005> unity panel
[11:19] <jbertrand> actionparsnip>omg thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:19] <jbertrand> i'm fucking dumb
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> asad2005: could use SuperL + ALT + D
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: no worries dude
[11:20] <jbertrand> i thought i'd have to manipulate samba ffs
[11:21] <Asad2005> ActionParsnip: SuperL + ALT + D does not showing the desktop i tried it now
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> asad2005: http://askubuntu.com/questions/126540/how-to-add-a-show-desktop-icon-to-the-launcher
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> asad2005: the workaround way looks great to me :-)
[11:22] <jbertrand> i have xubuntu in my bedroom and i've been ftp  mkv's to play locally
[11:22] <jbertrand> thanks so much action...so simple
[11:22] <jbertrand> omg lol
[11:23] <Asad2005> ActionParsnip: I got it from the unity tweak tool app thanks
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> jbertand: no worries. i do the same with sftp. i stream to wherever I am as it is secure
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> asad2005: cool
[11:24] <Asad2005> IF i have 2 terminal windows open what would be the easiest way to switch between both other then alt-tab then arrow keys
[11:25] <bekks> Asad2005: Click on the window you want to select.
[11:25] <jbertrand> action>i have raring ringtail on a laptop but hdmi didn't work until i downgraded kernl to 3.2 but apparently 3.8 upgrade has hdmi option for most sound cards...is it safe to upgrade...do you know?
[11:25] <airtonix> Asad2005: if you're using default ubuntu then that's it. if you want something faster install another desktop environment like gnomeshell
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> asad2005: why have 2 terminals, if you use screen or tmux you can switch between using shortcut key
[11:25] <Asad2005> bekks: most of the time they are same sized and one over the other
[11:25] <airtonix> Asad2005: you could try using alt + `
[11:26] <k1l> Asad2005: if its unity hover the mouse over the launcher and scroll the mousewheel
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: did you upgrade direct from Precise to Raring in one jump?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: and do you use propritaryvideo drivers?
[11:27] <Delphin> hey does anyone know if 64 bit ubuntu can run 32 bit ubuntu apps?
[11:27] <jbertrand> i manually installed 13.04 on one pc that had the hdmi kernl problem
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> delphin: yes, newer versions are multiarCNN
[11:27] <jbertrand> i'm having touchpad default reset on the one i upgraded in one jump
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> multiarch
[11:28] <Delphin> oh? what versions? I'm on Ubuntu right now and it doesnt let me install ia32-libs :(
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: thats why. if you leapfrog releases you will get issues and is not how Ubuntu is upgraded
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> delphin: no need, just run: sudo apt-get -f install ,and it will haul in the 32bit deps
[11:30] <jbertrand> ok so i should just install raring ringtail manually rather than upgrade?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: also, raring is only supported til Jan 2014, why upgrade from Precise which is supported til April 2017?
[11:30] <jbertrand> idk why that would make a difference, but i'll do it
[11:30] <jbertrand> i agree with that...why fix a car that isn't broken
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: upgrading is fine but you needed to upgrade to Quantal first, then to Raring
[11:31] <jbertrand> i did it though
[11:31] <N34lO> hi, /part
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: the only time you can skip releases is when it is LTS to LTS upgrade
[11:31] <jbertrand> i upgraded from 12.1
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: i thought you said you upgraded fron precise in one jumpn
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> 3.2 is a precise kernel, not quantal
[11:33] <Delphin> looks like I am on Ubuntu 12.10 64 bit, and when I do sudo apt-get -f install it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 ro temove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:33] <jbertrand> i went from 1204 to 1304 in one jump on one (hdmi issues) i have fixed
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> delphin: what are you wanting to install?
[11:33] <jbertrand> but the pc i went from 12.1 to 1304, i have mouse settings from 12.1
[11:33] <jbertrand> that cant be changede
[11:33] <jbertrand> changed*
[11:33] <Delphin> firestorm viewer for second life
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: is it ok as a new user?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> delphin: is that in playdeb repo?
[11:34] <jbertrand> i haven't tried a new user...i will
[11:34] <jbertrand> you misunderstood me
[11:35] <jbertrand> i downgraded kernal to support hdmi
[11:35] <Delphin> playdep?
[11:35] <jbertrand> but now the update fixed it anyway, but i'm still stuck with the old mouse settings
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> delphin: http://askubuntu.com/questions/155289/how-do-i-install-the-firestorm-viewer-for-second-life try the other viewer named there
[11:35] <jbertrand> i will try a new user and see if it works
[11:36] <jbertrand> but even if it does, how do i make it work for my current user?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: it means your settings are the issue if a fresh user with default settings works
[11:37] <jbertrand> i just tried it
[11:37] <jbertrand> it doesn't work
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> delphin: http://www.playdeb.net/updates/ubuntu/12.04/?q=second has snowsytorm, not sure if thats new. i dont play
[11:38] <superlinux-hp> hi. this is just one time announcement: for help in Draftsight the AutoCAD native alternative on Linux join #draftsight . thanks.
[11:38] <jbertrand> it's because the settings for 12.1 are stuck on 13.04 because they changed the parametres
[11:38] <Delphin> awsome thanks!
[11:39] <jbertrand> they merged mouse sensitivity with acceleration
[11:39] <jbertrand> you can't change it in ringtail
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> delphin: you will need this deb to be able to use that repo: http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> delphin: lots of apps and games there :-)
[11:40] <bejo6> exit
[11:43] <jbertrand> if you dual boot and upgrade ubuntu and grub does't load, you have to boot to live disc or usb and open terminal and add repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[11:43] <jbertrand> then update
[11:43] <jbertrand> then install boot-repair manually
[11:44] <jbertrand> you haven't lost your windows...don't panic lol
[11:44] <jbertrand> apt-get install -y boot-repair
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: or just chroot in and run: sudo update-grub
[11:45] <jbertrand> then boot-repair and follow the instructions
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: what if the user has no web access in the live cd desktop?
[11:45] <jbertrand> yeah but what if the user needs a gui?
[11:46] <jbertrand> boot-repair is a gui app...no?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[11:47] <jbertrand> i don't need help someone just asked me
[11:47] <jbertrand> if you have a better idea...post it
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: using chroot is also distro independant so is tranferable
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> see above for the post :-D
[11:50] <jbertrand> Pdflib is restricted, and gnuplot has a perfectly working pdf output
[11:50] <jbertrand> when the cairo library is used (which is also the default). It also has X11
[11:50] <jbertrand> output without wxWidgets, and TeX support is only really interesting for TeX
[11:50] <jbertrand> users
[11:50] <FloodBot1> jbertrand: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:50] <jbertrand> sorry wrong place
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: install cups-pdf and any app which can print can spit out to pdf :-)
[11:51] <jbertrand> i put that in the wrong place
[11:51] <jbertrand> sorry
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> its cool
[11:51] <jbertrand> the floodbot gave me a warning lol
[11:55] <jbertrand> no before you have to #wash -i mon0 -C -s
[11:55] <jbertrand> then #aireplay-ng -9 mon0
[11:56] <jbertrand> then #reaver -i mon0 -b macaddress -vv or -w
[11:56] <jbertrand> then wait 4 hours
[11:57] <jbertrand> your adapter has to be in monitor mode
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> ?
[11:58] <jbertrand> #airmon-ng start wlan0
[11:58] <jbertrand> if your adapter is wlan0
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> wrong channel?
[11:59] <jbertrand> ifconfig wioll tell you
[11:59] <TomJ616> Hey guys
[11:59] <jbertrand> omg sorry
[11:59] <jbertrand> wrong place
[11:59] <TomJ616> Was wondering if anyone could tell me how to install drivers on Ubuntu 13.04.. First time user here
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> tomj616: driver for what....?
[12:00] <jbertrand> tom:what pc do you have?
[12:00] <jbertrand> what hardware?
[12:00] <mindstorm> TomJ616: depends on exactly what you're wanting to install
[12:00] <jbertrand> 13.04 pretty much knows what everything is
[12:01] <TomJ616> I have a really REALLY old pc
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> tomj616: bet i have older, but what do you want to install drivers for...what hardware needs drivers?
[12:02] <jbertrand> ubuntu 13.04 works on my original xbox
[12:02] <Delphin> hey anyone know why after I installed the http://archive.getdeb.net/install_deb/playdeb_0.3-1~getdeb1_all.deb
[12:02] <Delphin>  I still cant install games?
[12:02] <jbertrand> how old is your pc?
[12:02] <TomJ616> I'm assuming my integrated graphics card
[12:02] <TomJ616> About 7 years
[12:02] <jbertrand> what hardware do you need drivers for?
[12:02] <TomJ616> Amd 760g
[12:03] <Delphin> oh nvm I figured it out
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> tomj616: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[12:03] <TomJ616> I'm on windows right now
[12:03] <TomJ616> I guess I need to install an ethernet driver too
[12:03] <TomJ616> Or something like that
[12:03] <jbertrand> ubuntu 13.04 won't need drivers
[12:04] <jbertrand> it'll work
[12:04] <TomJ616> It does work, but it's really slow
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> tomj616: what ethernet chip do you use?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> tomj616: if you run: sudo lshw -C network ,it will tell you the Ethernet chip
[12:05] <jbertrand> if it's slow, it's because your fsb and ram don't match your bridge or pci-e ram
[12:05] <jbertrand> it's not a driver issue
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> delphin: sudo apt-get update ,after installing the deb
[12:06] <TomJ616> Realtek 8168D
[12:06] <TomJ616> At least that's what system information tells me
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> tomj616: is that what lshw outputted?
[12:07] <TomJ616> I'm assuming that's a ubuntu command?
[12:07] <TomJ616> I'm on windows 7 right now
[12:07] <jbertrand> sudo -i dpkg file.deb...then sudo apt-get update
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> tomj616: yes we need to see what ubuntu sees it as
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> tomj616: you can edit files so that the system sees it as something different if you want
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: dpkg -i, not sudo -i ;)
[12:09] <jbertrand> lol
[12:09] <jbertrand> i've been drinking
[12:09] <jbertrand> sorry
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> np
[12:09] <jbertrand> sudo -i lol
[12:10] <LFS> how to know the video file format and codecs under ubuntu?
[12:10] <jbertrand> tom>i don't believe that 13.04 fails to regard your graphics carr
[12:10] <jbertrand> card
[12:11] <jbertrand> lfs># sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:11] <jbertrand> then right-click the file and choose open with...choose vlc and set as default
[12:12] <jbertrand> it'll open anything
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> lfs: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:12] <jbertrand> unnecessary
[12:12] <jbertrand> if it was hardy heron maybe
[12:13] <jbertrand> it's 213 ffs
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> lfs: if you enable the partner repo you can install w32codecs (or w64codecs for 64bit OS)
[12:13] <jbertrand> action...the repositories are already there
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> lfs: i install those along with gnome-mplayer
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: yes but partner is not enabled by default. thats the main thing
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: it is commented out in a fresh install, user must enable it if s/he wants to use the source
[12:15] <jbertrand> i haven't had to do that since 8.04
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> !partner
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: then why is there a comand for it there to enable it?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: if its already enabled...
[12:16] <jbertrand> you know more than i do
[12:16] <LFS> holy crap! 572.4MB for vlc to take place
[12:16] <LFS> why is all that space?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: been using linux and ubuntu a while, plus I have ubuntu membership
[12:17] <jbertrand> i put my life on the line that if he installs vlc and sets to default his problem is solved
[12:17] <jbertrand> the repo is already there
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> lfs: its that big. try the restricted extras instead :-)
[12:17] <jbertrand> idk ubuntu i'm a unix guy
[12:17] <liquidmetal> Ubuntu has been updating the linux kernel recently...
[12:17] <jbertrand> i don't doubt your knowledge
[12:17] <liquidmetal> that has been messing my setup...
[12:18] <liquidmetal> Is there a way to move my setup (drivers, software, etc) to the new kernel versions?
[12:18] <jbertrand> let lfs try what i say and if it doesn't work, i'll buy you a cookie
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: yes it is 'there' but its not enabled by default, it is hashed out and the package system ignores it. once you enable it as a source it will then be used and packages on the partner repo will be offered
[12:18] <LFS> ActionParsnip: the last ubuntu installation were damaged because of installing the clone of FFmpeg
[12:18] <LFS> libva I think was the name
[12:19] <LFS> are you sure this w32codecs is ok?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> lfs: is the restricted extras package ok. yes the w32codecs package is fine
[12:19] <auronandace> ActionParsnip: i think what jbertrand is trying to say is vlc is available in the default repos and should bring in all the codecs a regular user is likely to use (therefore not requiring anything from the partner repo)
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> lfs: its in the official repo, so yes its groovy
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> aurondance: gotcha
[12:20] <jbertrand> auro>exactly
[12:20] <jbertrand> he's new to ubuntu and just wants his music to play
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> aurondance: jbertrand: vlc doesnt share though, the restricted extras plugons give functionality to all players
[12:21] <LFS> how to use those restricted extra?
[12:21] <jbertrand> he doesn't need mplayer to work
[12:21] <jbertrand> he wants music to play
[12:21] <jbertrand> vlc
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> lfs: when you play media, they are used
[12:21] <jbertrand> repo
[12:22] <jbertrand> sometimes knowing too much is too much lol
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: what about other players? like playing mpe in rhythmnbox and managing an mp3 device. it wont work
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: an all encompassing codec set is better than one which only looks after itself
[12:23] <jbertrand> most people that understand filesystems don't want itunes or rythembox that cache libraries...they want to click their files and play
[12:23] <jbertrand> that's it
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: you cant assume that for all users though
[12:24] <jbertrand> the posters original question stated he just wants to play his music FILES
[12:25] <jbertrand> i'm not trying to argue, i'm just trying to help him...just as you are
[12:25] <jbertrand> but he's a newbie to ubuntu as he said, i think vlc...done
[12:25] <jbertrand> helps most
[12:25] <LFS> just found that vlc installed by default on 12.4 LTS
[12:25] <auronandace> LFS: no it isn't
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: for newbies who want things to work the coverall approach is better
[12:26] <jbertrand> lfs>and it plays your mkv avi mp3 and mp4?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> lfs: in kubuntu i believe it is default installed
[12:26] <LFS> but it's not playing the MSS2 codecs
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> lfs: did you get the restricted extras?
[12:26] <LFS> it's not playing .wmv with MSS2 codecs
[12:27] <LFS> auronandace: Yes it's ... I just finished the installation process
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> lfs: and the w32codecs?
[12:27] <Ben64> try mplayer with w32codecs
[12:27] <auronandace> LFS: if you meant kubuntu then i'm sorry, i was thinking of stock ubuntu
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> lfs: once the new codecs install, close your player and reopen
[12:27] <auronandace> LFS: i've always had to install vlc afterward
[12:28] <LFS> ActionParsnip: what are the restricted extras and how to get them?
[12:28] <jbertrand> imo>you're all confusing a newb for no reason
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> lfs: kubuntu-restricted-extras then. i assume you changed it
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> lfs: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:28] <jbertrand> as long as he gets what he wants, it doesn't matter
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> lfs: use TAB and ENTER to accept the license
[12:30] <jbertrand> restricted extras are unnecessary
[12:30] <LFS> I'm paranoid about installing huge apps ... what's the approximate size of that?
[12:30] <jbertrand> it's 13.04 not 8.04
[12:31] <the_drow> Hi how do I create a simple package that runs a python script for all installed python versions?
[12:31] <jbertrand> lfs>if you want less complicated and less install...let me know
[12:31] <jbertrand> other than that...listen to these guys
[12:32] <LFS> auronandace: it's ubuntu not kubuntu
[12:32] <auronandace> LFS: then it doesn't come with vlc by default
[12:32] <LFS> but I didn't install anything other than irssi
[12:32] <Ben64> jbertrand: whats with your hangup on 8.04
[12:32] <LFS> it's a brand new installation
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> lfs: then you need to change kubuntu to ubuntu in my previous command
[12:33] <jbertrand> ben64>you guys are trying to get this guy to install repos for totem
[12:33] <jbertrand> it's 2013
[12:33] <jbertrand> ffs
[12:33] <Ben64> who said anything about totem
[12:34] <auronandace> !language | jbertrand
[12:34] <LFS> well ActionParsnip .. I'm half way through with your command already
[12:34] <jbertrand> restricted extras is for totem 6 years ago
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: its totem as well as any media player the user puts on the OS. Pretty sweet right
[12:34] <LFS> which means that something has being fucked now
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> lfs: not at all
[12:35] <LFS> and I must reinstall this machine again
[12:35] <Ben64> LFS: watch the language though
[12:35] <jbertrand> ok i'm done talking then
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> lfs: why reinstall?
[12:35] <jbertrand> as long as you get him where he needs to be
[12:35] <LFS> Ben64: you're free to do that
[12:35] <jbertrand> i just think you're taking him too far
[12:35] <LFS> ActionParsnip: because I don't know what happened on my PC now
[12:35] <Ben64> LFS: channel rules here, so you need to do that as well
[12:35] <LFS> Ben64: who are you?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: what? ading codecs so that any player can playbthe vast majority of media files...
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> lfs: you are installing codecs for media. thats all
[12:36] <jbertrand> he doesn't need every player
[12:36] <auronandace> LFS: use of this channel means you accept and adhere to the guidelines
[12:36] <jbertrand> he said he's new he just wants his wma to play
[12:36] <jbertrand> vlc
[12:36] <jbertrand> period
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: he might though, this makes things easier later
[12:36] <jbertrand> sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:36] <LFS> auronandace: who are you?
[12:37] <jbertrand> right-click file choose open with vlc set as default
[12:37] <Ben64> LFS: it doesn't matter who we are, it's not a big deal, just watch the language
[12:37] <LFS> jbertrand: vlc was found by default but it's not playing the videos
[12:37] <jbertrand> finished
[12:37] <LFS> only audio is comming out
[12:37] <jony_easyrider> how can I find out the connected USBtoTTL device path in Ubuntu 12.04?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: user installs another media player later...then it wont work because vlc doesnt share
[12:37] <LFS> Ben64: who are you?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: its half a fix
[12:38] <jbertrand> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:38] <jbertrand> sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> lfs: try a different video output method in preferences
[12:38] <jbertrand> finished
[12:38] <LFS> jony_easyrider: type tye command df -h
[12:38] <jbertrand> sudo apt-get update
[12:38] <jbertrand> default vlc
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: yes then its done, both packages covers all the bases. doesnt need 2 commands but its the same result :-)
[12:39] <meric> Hello
[12:39] <jbertrand> why the complication then?
[12:39] <LFS> ActionParsnip: how to try that
[12:39] <jbertrand> you want him to be able to use winamp?
[12:39] <jbertrand> wtf
[12:39] <LFS> on the vlc app itself?
[12:39] <Ben64> LFS: install mplayer or mplayer2, w32codecs, and pastebin "mplayer -identify -endpos 1 file.wmv"
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> lfs: tools -> preferences
[12:40] <LFS> Ben64: no but thanks
[12:40] <LFS> :)
[12:40] <Ben64> so you don't want to watch videos?
[12:40] <jbertrand> give me 5 mins with this guy and if what i say doesn't work, i'll digress
[12:40] <jbertrand> please
[12:40] <Ben64> jbertrand: it already didn't work, stop saying the same things over and over
[12:41] <LFS> Ben64: I want to watch them without your help
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> jbertrand: coukd install audacious if you like winamp
[12:41] <meric> I had only a xubuntu 10 iso while offline, and installed it on a pc. xubuntu can't update & upgrade because of 404 error. Any advice ?
[12:41] <the_drow> How do I create a simple package that runs a python script? It's for a PPA
[12:41] <Ben64> !attitude | LFS
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> meric: is it 10.10?
[12:41] <jbertrand> ok ben
[12:41] <meric> i don't know
[12:41] <meric> uname -a didn't give the version
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> meric: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[12:42] <auronandace> meric: lsb_release -sd
[12:42] <meric> Ubuntu 10.10 \n \l
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> meric: uname is for kernel version only
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> meric: maveric is no longer supported
[12:42] <Ben64> !eol | meric
[12:42] <auronandace> meric: 10.10 is no longer supported
[12:42] <jbertrand> get a newb to install windows codecs and players and tell me what wasn't tried won't work
[12:42] <jbertrand> k
[12:42] <meric> Thanks
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> meric: grab the ISO for Precise and install a clean install of Precise. It is LTS and supported til April 2017
[12:43] <meric> Will this delete my files or just change /not_home/ stuff ?
[12:44] <jbertrand> not if you don't chmod
[12:44] <jbertrand> you need permission
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> meric: restore user data from backup,lots easier
[12:44] <auronandace> meric: if you do a fresh install then backup what you want to keep
[12:44] <jbertrand> sorry wrong channel again
[12:45] <inkjetunito> is it possible to use an usb stick both as an installation source and target at the same time? i'd need a live stick..
[12:45] <meric> i will backup and try the «deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ CODENAME-updates main restricted universe multiverse»
[12:45] <meric> ,for fun.
[12:46] <meric> thanks #ubuntu !
[12:46] <auronandace> inkjetunito: 2 separate stick yes, the same stick i'm not sure sorry
[12:46] <LFS> ubottu: who are you?
[12:47] <LFS> Good bot
[12:47] <LFS> unlike real jerks
[12:47] <inkjetunito> auronandace: ok
[12:47] <Ben64> LFS: thats not a good way to get support here
[12:47] <jbertrand> ubottu>you had me at hello
[12:47] <LFS> Ben64: you didn't ask my question
[12:48] <jbertrand> ubottu>you're more intelligent than most of the users posting here
[12:48] <Ben64> jbertrand: stop
[12:48] <LFS> sed s/ask/answer
[12:48] <Ben64> LFS: i tried to, but you didn't want to hear it
[12:48] <LFS> what did you try?
[12:48] <Ben64> maybe thats why you've been trying to play wmvs since June 9th
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> meric: itll take a lot of upgrading to get to Precise from Maveric. a clean install will give the OS as intended with no old fluff cloging up procedings
[12:48] <Ben64> May 9th*
[12:49] <LFS> No ... I was trying since 2012
[12:49] <Ben64> LFS: install mplayer or mplayer2, w32codecs, and pastebin "mplayer -identify -endpos 1 file.wmv"
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> lfs: tried gnome-mplayer? (or smplayer in kde)?
[12:49] <LFS> Ben64: I already told you NO about that
[12:50] <Ben64> well thats the answer, so deal with it
[12:50] <LFS> ActionParsnip: smplayer did play them but it's crappy
[12:50] <LFS> either the video and audio are not on the same timing
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> LFS  don't reject every and any answer and advice you get here, please
[12:50] <jony_easyrider> how can I see which is the USBtoTTL device address?
[12:51] <jbertrand> lfs>now that the gods have befuddled you, may i interject?
[12:51] <AriefGembiz> aii
[12:51] <LFS> please do jbertrand
[12:52] <LFS> I see on vlc website that it supports MSS2 while it's not playing them on ubuntu!
[12:52] <jbertrand> lfs>wmv's are microsoft files designed for windows media player...many opensource os and ios won't know how to play them
[12:53] <jbertrand> you have to tell them to play them
[12:53] <LFS> yeah I know that already jbertrand
[12:53] <jbertrand> i'm just starting from the beginning
[12:53] <jbertrand> bear with me
[12:53] <LFS> ok the questin is how to tell them to do so
[12:53] <LFS> ok
[12:54] <jbertrand> vlc is the best player that will play anything
[12:54] <inkjetunito> auronandace: looks like virtualbox would support passing real usb devices to the virtual machine. installation to usb stick solved :)
[12:54] <auronandace> inkjetunito: awesome, well done
[12:54] <jbertrand> however; some windows files that are really old may not be supported
[12:55] <jbertrand> in order to find out
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> LFS  try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:55] <jbertrand> bear with me here
[12:55] <jbertrand> don't listen to anyone but me right now lol
[12:55] <LFS> following you jbertrand .. please continue
[12:55] <jbertrand> lfs>open terminal
[12:56] <LFS> it's opened since May 9th*
[12:56] <LFS> 2012
[12:56] <jbertrand> install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:56] <LFS> oh shit no ... that is unknown download file size
[12:58] <LFS> 53.1 MB no bullshit
[12:58] <LFS> I don't want this costly solution
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> LFS  mind your language please
[12:59] <Lexxic> Hi
[13:01] <jbertrand> whats offtopic?
[13:01] <bekks> jbertrand: Everything thats not related to ubuntu support.
[13:01] <jbertrand> off-topic?
[13:01] <reisio> jbertrand: where?
[13:01] <jbertrand> what do i type?
[13:02] <jbertrand> off-topic
[13:02] <jbertrand> or offtopic?
[13:02] <ss_haze> yo everyone
[13:02] <reisio> #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:02] <bekks> jbertrand: "/j #ubuntu-offtopic"
[13:02] <jbertrand> ubuntu-off-topic?
[13:02] <reisio> /msg alis list *ubunt*off*, look for the highest number
[13:02] <ss_haze> I need to know where tramageddon stores output
[13:02] <reisio> ss_haze: like save games? Probably somewhere in ~/.foo or ~/.config/foo
[13:02] <ss_haze> foo
[13:03] <ss_haze> :>
[13:03] <jbertrand> hello?
[13:03] <ss_haze> like video files
[13:03] <reisio> jbertrand: hi
[13:03] <reisio> ss_haze: ah
[13:03] <reisio> ss_haze: what is tramageddon?
[13:03] <jbertrand> lfs?
[13:03] <ss_haze> !transmaggedon
[13:03] <ss_haze> video converter
[13:03] <jbertrand> is this ubuntu off topic?
[13:03] <bekks> jbertrand: No.
[13:03] <jbertrand> how do i get there?
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> jbertrand  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:04] <bekks> jbertrand: I just told you.
[13:04] <ss_haze> I am converting the future of weed to mp3 :>>
[13:04] <reisio> ss_haze: the only likely places would be the current directory, /tmp/, or some hidden or unhidden directory in ~/
[13:04] <reisio> ss_haze: and you can't find where it put the converted files?
[13:04] <ss_haze> yes
[13:05] <ss_haze> must search
[13:05] <reisio> sounds like a poor app, then :p
[13:05] <DarkAceZ> o my
[13:05] <DarkAceZ> what happened here
[13:05] <ss_haze> I found
[13:05] <reisio> ss_haze: what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[13:05] <ss_haze> it stored it in music
[13:05] <ss_haze> problem solved
[13:05] <reisio> ~/Music/ ?
[13:06] <reisio> ss_haze: still, tell me what version
[13:06] <ss_haze> 12.04
[13:06] <jbertrand> lfs?
[13:06] <reisio> ah
[13:06] <reisio> 13.04 has mp3fs :)
[13:06] <ss_haze> I don't like 13.04 I stay lts
[13:06]  * reisio shrugs
[13:07] <reisio> you can probably get it on 12.04, just likely less convenient
[13:07] <jbertrand> gdit i can't remember what room i was in to help this guy
[13:07] <jbertrand> ferk
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:08] <auronandace> jbertrand: lfs was in here and this is where you were helping him, please mind your language
[13:08] <ss_haze> I would use 13.04 but it is supported for small time, and there can be hustle to move to next level things
[13:08] <ss_haze> 14.04 could be a try
[13:08] <reisio> hustle?
[13:08] <jbertrand> what language? i didn't type a profanity at all
[13:08] <jbertrand> and lfs left?
[13:08] <jony_easyrider> how can I see which is the USBtoTTL device address?
[13:09] <reisio> jbertrand: nobody knows what you're talking about
[13:09] <ss_haze> it's when you shout at PC, for not doing what you want, but thats straight offtopic
[13:09] <mogaj> some websites are not opening on ubuntu 13.04 but opening in other windows sytems connected in same network .... for example twitter.com is one of the website
[13:09] <auronandace> jbertrand: i can still tab-complete his nick
[13:09] <LFS> fuck them jbertrand
[13:09] <ss_haze> you don't get twitter mogaj?
[13:09] <reisio> heh
[13:10] <jbertrand> well if he left, i guess he doesn't need me
[13:10] <LFS> they think I give a fuck
[13:10] <ss_haze> how f**** is that
[13:10] <LFS> lol
[13:10] <jbertrand> oh lfs
[13:10] <reisio> mogaj: what happens when you try to open them?
[13:10] <jbertrand> where was i?
[13:10] <LFS> MonkeyDust: kiss my ass
[13:10] <LFS> Ben64: suck my dick
[13:10] <LFS> how about this language?
[13:10] <ss_haze> damn Ubuntu, you don't do twitter, firefox is getting lazy
[13:10] <LFS> ok?
[13:10] <LFS> stupid cunts
[13:10] <reisio> LFS: :D
[13:10] <MonkeyDust> !ops
[13:10] <mogaj> reisio, ss_haze the mr=essage shown is ... Error 137 (net::ERR_NAME_RESOLUTION_FAILED): Unknown error.
[13:10] <ss_haze> LFS thats a way to get ban
[13:10] <ss_haze> :D
[13:10] <mogaj> *message
[13:11] <LFS> lol
[13:11] <LFS> who cares about the ban?
[13:11] <reisio> mogaj: where?
[13:11] <ss_haze> firefox or IE?
[13:11] <ss_haze> :>>>
[13:11] <reisio> whichever isn't working
[13:11] <mogaj> reisio, what do you mean where .... the browser is chrome
[13:11] <jbertrand> lfs>some people try to look like they know everything and they complicate things for new users trying to look oh so important
[13:12] <reisio> mogaj: what URI?
[13:12] <ss_haze> so chrome doesn't do twitter anymore
[13:12] <ss_haze> how sad, google
[13:12] <ss_haze> :>
[13:12] <mogaj> reisio, https://twitter.com/
[13:12] <auronandace> jbertrand: he was just kicked
[13:12] <reisio> ss_haze: ...
[13:12] <jbertrand> open source has no freedom of speech...how hypocritical
[13:13] <reisio> mogaj: what version of Chrome? (or is it Chromium?) What version of Ubuntu?
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> ss_haze: my chrome browser 'does twitter'
[13:13] <jbertrand> unreal
[13:13] <reisio> jbertrand: it's an IRC thing
[13:13] <Ben64> jbertrand: stop ranting, make your own channel for that
[13:13] <reisio> network*
[13:13] <ss_haze> freedom of swearing is in forrest
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> jbartrand: its channel policies
[13:13] <auronandace> !guidelines | jbertrand
[13:14] <jbertrand> i don't rant...i was simply trying to educate a unix newbie
[13:14] <ss_haze> opensource allows you to stole the code, make it your own, but you have to give reference to every change you do
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> mogaj: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[13:14] <reisio> ss_haze: sometimes, sometimes not
[13:14] <ss_haze> he is in some public network, where Linux is blocked, however lol
[13:15] <k1l> !ot
[13:15] <ss_haze> in school I had to log in to some shi**** network, maybe he also has to
[13:15] <jbertrand> we could've helped but instead we pushed him away
[13:15] <k1l> ss_haze: jbertrand , lets stick to technical support in here. we got the offtopic channel for chatter
[13:16] <jony_easyrider> when I launch this command: sudo dnsmasq –enable-tftp –tftp-root=/code.bindirectory
[13:16] <jony_easyrider> it gives me the following: dnsmasq: junk found in command line
[13:16] <jbertrand> if i said the open source thing to do would be to help him would be classified as a rant?
[13:16] <jony_easyrider> please help
[13:16] <jbertrand> ok iwill stick to tech sorry
[13:16] <ss_haze> I just try variations of what could be wrong, if he doesn't want to..
[13:18] <mogaj> reisio, ActionParsnip :  http://pastebin.com/4sTrwQAJ
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> mogaj: tried renaming your config folder for chrome in ~/.config ?
[13:19] <mogaj> ActionParsnip, no... do i have to?
[13:19] <Ben64> mogaj: sounds like a network problem
[13:20] <reisio> mogaj: do you have 'dig'? (run 'type dig')
[13:20] <jbertrand> are you on a router or server?
[13:20] <mogaj> Ben64, but it is opening in another windows sytems in same network
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> mogaj: no but it will give the browser default setings and will mean it runs as intended before setings and addons were added.
[13:20] <mogaj> jbertrand, router
[13:20] <Ben64> mogaj: so? still seems like a network problem.
[13:20] <jbertrand> static or dhcp?
[13:20] <reisio> wireless, or just a switch?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> mogaj: you can always rename back after the test
[13:21] <Ben64> mogaj: open up a terminal and type "host twitter.com"
[13:21] <mogaj> Ben64, Host twitter.com not found: 2(SERVFAIL)
[13:21] <Ben64> theres your problem then
[13:21] <Ben64> get better/different dns servers
[13:22] <mogaj> Ben64, its all greek to me ... what should i do .. do i need change my net connection?
[13:22] <jbertrand> mogaj>what is the issue exactly? what can't you do?
[13:22] <mogaj> ActionParsnip, should i  rename ~/.config?
[13:23] <Ben64> mogaj: open up your network config and add a dns server
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> mogaj: no no need, ben64 has your issue
[13:23] <mogaj> ok
[13:23] <Ben64> i'm not sure how to do it with unity though
[13:24] <Ben64> and i also don't know of a good dns server in india
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> mogaj: run:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> mogaj: then try the web
[13:25] <mogaj> ActionParsnip, now that worked
[13:25] <jbertrand> i don't mean to be a buttinsky AGAIN, but you guys start at the most comlicated issues rather than working from simplest to complicated
[13:25] <mogaj> i am able to open twitter.com
[13:26] <Ben64> jbertrand: it worked very quickly, whats the problem?
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> mogaj: the dns you are getting via dhcp sucks. that command switched you to google's public dns server
[13:26] <mogaj> ActionParsnip, do i ahve to echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf > /dev/null for all my sytems if i get this problem
[13:26] <Fieldy> dhcp will just override your manual settings eventually
[13:27] <praveen> hi...how to use ubuntu 2d  desktop environment to control flash player? please help.
[13:27] <Fieldy> the solution si to have the dhcp server hand out a good dns server
[13:27] <inkjetunito> did the samsung laptop bricking feature get fixed in 12.04?
[13:27] <auronandace> praveen: what do you mean?
[13:27] <jbertrand> ben64>no problem...just...it's dhcp
[13:27] <Ben64> you can have dhcp with a custom dns server
[13:27] <jbertrand> there are several simple things to troubleshoot first
[13:28] <Frustrated> does anyone know how to set the default filetype if the program u want isnt in recommended OR other?
[13:28] <Frustrated> *default program
[13:28] <jbertrand> 20 mins of convo has passed yet we know nothing about his host
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> mogaj: if you add it to /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head ,it will apply in all cases
[13:29] <Frustrated> how do i change the default program for a file type if it's not in recommended OR other
[13:29] <mogaj> ActionParsnip, i don't mind to pester but what exactly was the problem and will this solution work in all such situations?
[13:29] <mac_> hy all
[13:30] <auronandace> Frustrated: there should be an option to browse for what you want to open it with
[13:30] <jbertrand> for all we've learned so far, although we know his filesystem (don't we all) he might just be able to reseat his ac for all we've learned so far
[13:30] <brian__123> Hi everyone - I have Googled for a solution but without sucess (many hits but all a bit different from what I am seeing).  I have just got a USB hard drive caddy attached to 12.04LTS server on USB2.  I am rsync'ing files to the drive in the caddy for backup.  In the syslog, I am seeing everying 3-10 seconds a lot of "usb 2-3: reset high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci_hcd" messages.  Ideas?
[13:30] <jbertrand> s
[13:31] <Frustrated> i dont see thatr
[13:31] <auronandace> Frustrated: can you show us a screenshot please
[13:31] <k1l> jbertrand: you are free to help if you know a simple solution which suits the ubuntu way.
[13:32] <Ben64> auronandace: they removed that option
[13:32] <Frustrated> how would i do that?
[13:32] <Frustrated> ive got a screenshot but how would i upload it?
[13:33] <jbertrand> well first...ubuntu aside...does the isp dictate the gateway and password?
[13:33] <Ben64> Frustrated: the way to do what you want is by making a .desktop file for it
[13:33] <jbertrand> what router is it?
[13:33] <Ben64> jbertrand: none of that really matters, its just a dns problem
[13:33] <jbertrand> how many devices are connected?
[13:33] <auronandace> Ben64: looks like they just moved it over a tab, not removed
[13:33] <mogaj> jbertrand, are talking about my issue?
[13:33] <mogaj> *you
[13:34] <auronandace> !screenshot | Frustrated
[13:34] <Ben64> auronandace: dunno, i don't have that option at all
[13:34] <accc> hi
[13:35] <jbertrand> if it's a dns problem, what's the server?
[13:35] <Frustrated> http://imagebin.org/261567
[13:35] <Frustrated> theres my screenshot
[13:36] <auronandace> Ben64: 13.04: http://imagebin.org/261568
[13:36] <Ben64> auronandace: yep, i definitely do not have that
[13:36] <Frustrated> that will do it, but where do i get that dialog box?
[13:37] <auronandace> Ben64: ah, sorry, i use pcmanfm (never liked nautilus)
[13:37] <Ben64> Frustrated: for minecraft you should just make a script to launch it
[13:37] <jbertrand> mogaj>yeah
[13:37] <Frustrated> yeah but thing is, i do java development, so i need it to be set for jars
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> frustrated: omgubuntu has a ppa that makes a launcher for minecraft
[13:40] <Frustrated> i have another problem now.
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> frustrated: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/minecraft-installer-for-ubuntu
[13:41] <mogaj> jbertrand : It is a home network ... now there are one ubuntu 13.04(mine)two windows systems,3 android phones connected to same network router is NetGear N150 JNR1010 by doing what ActionParsnip , said i am able to open websites normally ... but i would like to know what the problem was and how can i fix if this problem arises again
[13:41] <Frustrated> ive made the script. now i need to know how to make it work right
[13:41] <Frustrated> when i doubleclick on it it opens gedit, not terminal...
[13:41] <Frustrated> ive set executable bit.
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> mogaj: add the line to the head file, it will be ok
[13:42] <k1l> mogaj: maybe the dns delivered from the router or isp is down. so the the solution with the other dns works now
[13:42] <jbertrand> mogaj>what was the initial problem?
[13:42] <mogaj> ActionParsnip, but it says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN" ... how should i do it?
[13:43] <Tomasso> does anyone know of a free proxy list in a txt file ?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> frustrated: right click the file. open woth. then set the file to open with /usr/bin/java
[13:43] <mogaj> jbertrand, some websites were not opening while they were opening in other windows and android sytems and mibiles
[13:43] <kepiting> !firewall
[13:43] <jbertrand> i appreciate ubuntu support but sometimes people know so much, they forget how new people can be...so they forget to help with...plug in the ethernet cable type problems
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> mogaj: that is because it is used to make /etc/resolv.conf ,so it will make users not edit the file
[13:44] <jbertrand> mogaj>some websites on which os? ubuntu 13.04?
[13:44] <mogaj> jbertrand, yes
[13:44] <mogaj> jbertrand, but now after following ActionParsnip instructions they are working fine
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> mogaj: if you add in that file it will be the first dns server every time :-)
[13:45] <jbertrand> mogaj>if you have hdmi plugged in, does hdmi come up as an option in sound settings?
[13:45] <jbertrand> oh so now it works?
[13:46] <jbertrand> i had the same issue and i had to install the previous kernal
[13:46] <mogaj> jbertrand, thanks to you all it works
[13:46] <jbertrand> ok well don't thank me lol thank action
[13:47] <jbertrand> but fyi 3.2 and 3.88 work with acer and toshiba, but 3.5 doesn't
[13:48] <jbertrand> for network and hdmi
[13:49] <jbertrand> when i first upgraded to 13.04, i couldn't access my network from nautalis
[13:49] <jbertrand> i had to downgrade kernls
[13:49] <jbertrand> *l
[13:51] <Asad2005> I am not happy about the fonts used in 13.04 in browser and liferea can someone please suggest a good theme or font to install or is this a rendering issue in display setting the resolution is 1920x1080 and rotation is normal
[13:52] <Asad2005> ii suppose these are documents font which are set as sans 11
[13:52] <brian__123> sorry - I've not used IRC very much - how do I join the queue for help?
[13:53] <acerimmer> brian__123, no que.  ask your question.  those who know will jump in.
[13:53] <auronandace> brian__123: you can simply state your issue and anyone will help if they want
[13:53] <Tm_T> brian__123: there's no queue, just explain your problem with details and someone who can will try help you
[13:53] <acerimmer> !details|brian__123,
[13:54] <brian__123> thanks
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> asad2005: i know of this http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/better-font-rendering-in-linux-with.html never user it though. Could be what you need
[13:59] <brian__123>  I have just got a USB hard drive caddy attached to 12.04LTS server on USB2. I am rsync'ing files to the drive in the caddy for backup. Whilst files copy, in the syslog, I am seeing every 3-10 seconds "usb 2-3: reset high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci_hcd" messages. From what I see on Google, the suggestions are confusing.  One of them is to disable USB2 support but I have TV tuner...
[13:59] <brian__123> ...cards that 'look like' USB devices to the system and I don't want to break something that's working fine when tyring to fix something else.  I'm concerned about the messages - are they actually important as, if the files don't copy on to the backup hard drive OK, then the backup isn't worth anything.  (Sorry that this is quite long but I have looked at this myself a bit using Google and...
[13:59] <brian__123> ...got very confused.)
[13:59] <FloodBot1> brian__123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:59] <DexterF> hi
[14:01] <krz> i see .profile, but no .bash_profile in ~. is that normal?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> krz: not really, i suggest you copy them from /etc/skel
[14:02] <zykotick9> brian__123: this doesn't "help" but, i believe that's common with buggy usb2 drivers/hardware.  good luck (YEARS ago, a friends computer had a similar issue, and compiling to kernel without usb2 support solved in that case)
[14:02] <DexterF> creating a raid on 12.04LTS with this command: http://pastebin.ca/2400319  I get in dmesg that it is only using 5 of the 6 drives: http://pastebin.ca/2400320  -- why is that?
[14:03] <krz> ActionParsnip: what?
[14:04] <GinToniCooL1> after dist-upgrade ,it show mounting local filesystems ....failed ,help please
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> brian__123: try a later kernel
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> krz: copy the fmissing files from /etc/skel they will be hidden
[14:04] <zykotick9> GinToniCooL1: is this with debian or ubuntu?
[14:04] <brian__123> thanks zykotick9 - I didn't want to recompile the kernel as this seems quite tricky - and not a route I really wanted to go down.  I've seen a few bits on Google about disabling the high-speed USB support but I was worried about any impact on my TV/Satellite tuner cards
[14:05] <GinToniCooL1> zykotick9 ,it is with DEBIAN
[14:05] <zykotick9> brian__123: usb1 would be very slow...
[14:05] <zykotick9> GinToniCooL1: so, don't ask in #ubuntu then
[14:05] <GinToniCooL1> WHY
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> gintonicool1: debian is supported in #debian
[14:05] <GinToniCooL1> HE GAI LE
[14:06] <GinToniCooL1> I KNOW ,I KNOW
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> gintonucool1: then why ask here when debian is not supported here....
[14:06] <GinToniCooL1> BUT debian's problems are more similar with UBUNTU
[14:06] <Tm_T> doesn't matter
[14:07] <krz> ActionParsnip: where is /etc/skel does not exist
[14:07] <krz> where is it normally?
[14:07] <brian__123> Action Parsnip: I think that I'm on the latest available - uname -a output is:  Linux MINERVA 3.2.0-48-generic #74-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 19:43:26 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:07] <Aiena> Greetings everyone !! Can someone please tell me how to add the ppa of this url? https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+ppa-packages
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> gintonicool1: its still not supported here
[14:08] <GinToniCooL1> in DEBIAN,this problem maybe mostely the same with UBUNTU;;why can't i question here ?
[14:08] <chadk_> I was upgrading to ubuntu 10.04 but i got this error message. 'E: couldnt't configure pre-depend jre for openoffice.org-writer2 latex, probably a dependency cylce.' Any suggestions?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> brian__123: try 3.8 or 3.9 to test, the newer versions may be better
[14:08] <GinToniCooL1> NO REASON !
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> chadk_: lucid is no longer supported on the desktop
[14:08] <fengyun> hi
[14:09] <GinToniCooL1> I DO NOT CARE debian or ubuntu
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> gintonicool1: because this is ubuntu support only. even non-canonical distros arent supported here. you arent using ubuntu,you are using debian so your support is in #debian and not here
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> gintonicool1: its that simple
[14:10] <brian__123> ActionParsnip: Sorry to be dim but I don't understand your reply - I'm at that dangerous stage of knowing a bit but not a lot!  How do I try 3.8 or 3.9 to test?
[14:10] <GinToniCooL1> why dont you give a little answer ?or little ,less ,,,,NOTHING ---now
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> brian__123: there are guides, you'll find them
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> gintonicool1: i answered. the answer is ask in #debian
[14:11] <GinToniCooL1> I KNOW THE #DEBIAN ,SO ,DO NOT METION IT AGAIN ,PLEASE ,PLEASE ,OK >? I GOT IT
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> !ops | gintonicool
[14:11] <Asad2005> Do i have to logoff/login after changing document font style/size or just quit the app and restart it to see the effect
[14:12] <brian__123> ActionParsnip: Thanks, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for.  What is 3.8 or 3.9 - is it something to do with the USB support?
[14:12] <LjL> GinToniCooL1: don't SHOUT. it's easy really. Debian is supported in #debian and Ubuntu is supported in #ubuntu. Please stick to that.
[14:12] <chadk_> is there a way to ugprade ubuntu, then?
[14:12] <Tm_T> GinToniCooL1: let's make this clear and simple: this is Ubuntu support channel, this channel support Ubuntu (along its flavours) and no other distributions.
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> brian__123: its a kernel version. the newer ones may make your usb better
[14:12] <LuxuryMode> Do I need to download a specific version for a macbook pro with retina or the vanilla download should work?
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> luxurymode: default should work
[14:13] <LuxuryMode> ActionParsnip, thanks
[14:13] <brian__123> ActionParsnip:  Thanks for the clarification - I'll go and do some searches.  Cheers
[14:13] <GinToniCooL1> OK OK ,GUYS ,thank you;MY FAULT ,THE RULE ,AGREE
[14:13] <GinToniCooL1> THANK YOU
[14:13] <auronandace> !mac | LuxuryMode
[14:14] <GinToniCooL1> GOD ,BAD, TROUBLE
[14:14] <LjL> GinToniCooL1: are you done? we understand lowercase. don't use UPPERCASE.
[14:14] <ariefgembiz> aiii
[14:14] <ariefgembiz> I am Newbie
[14:14] <ariefgembiz> hi
[14:14] <ariefgembiz> hiii
[14:14] <ariefgembiz> hiiiii
[14:14] <LjL> ariefgembiz: hi
[14:15] <LjL> ariefgembiz: don't flood please
[14:15] <ariefgembiz> oke sory
[14:15] <GinToniCooL1> I LIKE UPPERCASE, I'M CTAZY ,BECAUSE
[14:15] <ariefgembiz> I am newbie :3
[14:15] <ariefgembiz> << From Indonesia
[14:15] <ariefgembiz> LjL Do you From .?
[14:16]  * ariefgembiz LjL Do you From .?
[14:16] <Luyin> hello everyone! After Suspend To RAM my graphical interface is gone, I can see only a black screen and my mouse cursor. Anyone any ideas on this?
[14:16] <LjL> ariefgembiz: i am from Italy, but this is not the right channel to talk about this. Here is Ubuntu support only. You can join #ubuntu-offtopic for chat.
[14:16] <DexterF> Luyin: distro version, video hardware, desktop?
[14:17] <Aiena> Greetings everyone !! Can someone please tell me how to add the ppa of this url? https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+ppa-packages
[14:17] <Luyin> DexterF: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, Unity desktop. video: intel onboard
[14:17] <LuxuryMode> I'll be able to try out Ubuntu with live mode first right? No need for a special download in order to get that functionality?
[14:17] <cyrano_> So I currently have sound but no sound devices are showing up in the sound manager. It appears that pulseaudio isn't loading and when I try to start it I get this error "E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed." then when I try to run pulseaudio -k I get "E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Failed to kill daemon: No such process" might any one have any suggestions on how to get that going again?
[14:17] <Aiena> sudo add apt-repository ppa:philip5/ppa-packages does not work
[14:17] <Luyin> LuxuryMode: just download the image, burn it to dvd and on first boot, click "try ubuntu"
[14:18] <LuxuryMode> dvd? uh oh…I planned on using a my 2GB usb stick. that wont be enough?
[14:18] <Luyin> LuxuryMode: yes, that's possible, too
[14:18] <DexterF> Luyin: does switching to a tty with ctrl-alt-f1 and back with ctrl-alt-f8 help? (or was it f7..?)
[14:18] <LuxuryMode> hehe phew, thanks Luyin
[14:18] <Luyin> DexterF: yes it dows
[14:18] <Luyin> does
[14:19] <DexterF> Luyin: hmm. so the video buffer is not refreshed. in short: file a bug report.
[14:19] <Luyin> DexterF: thank you :)
[14:20] <GinToniCooL1> after dist-upgrade ,it show mounting local filesystems ....failed ,help me please
[14:20] <auronandace> GinToniCooL1: /join #debian
[14:21]  * DexterF joins #debian to watch the show
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> luxurymode: remeber to md5 test the iso
[14:22] <LuxuryMode> already dd'ing it :)
[14:22] <DexterF> I should go there and ask ubuntu questions just to equal thing
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> luxurymode: you can use the cd iso if you want
[14:22] <LuxuryMode> ActionParsnip, no i cant. no cd drive on rMBP
[14:22] <LuxuryMode> but thank you :)
[14:24] <mac_> hy all.. my gnome is in fall back version.. it looks like ubutnu 2d.. any idea how to fix errorrs'
[14:24] <mac_> ps: i am newb
[14:25] <root-gne> hello
[14:25] <root-gne> i need your help
[14:25] <mac_> and please prvt msg me
[14:25] <root-gne> i cant install joomla in ubuntu 13,04
[14:25] <mac_> cant work and follow all rows
[14:26] <brian__123> ActionParsnip:  Thanks again for the pointer to search on the 3.8 or 3.9 kernel.  If I understand what I've found correctly, as I'm using 12.04LTS server - and installed that when it was new - even though I am upgraded/dist-upgraded and am now on 12.04.2LTS, the kernel wasn't changed from 3.2.x.  Is that right?
[14:27] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | brian__123
[14:27] <auronandace> brian__123: 3.2 is default for 12.04 lts
[14:27] <brian__123> There are some warning about upgrading the kernel as whilst it might fix the USB problem I've got, it might break something else
[14:28] <auronandace> brian__123: there is also 3.5 backported to 12.04 from 12.10
[14:28] <brian__123> This was part of the reason for choosing an LTS
[14:28] <brian__123> as I didn't want ot ahve to change once I got it working OK
[14:28] <brian__123> Auronandace: Thanks for the hint to look at the 3.5 abckport - I will check on that.
[14:30] <mac_> any solution for me yet?
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> root-gne: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Joomla
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> mac_: do you have 3D accelleration in your OS?
[14:34] <mac_> dri?
[14:34] <DAY1> hllo
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> mac_: 3D accelleration. not dri specifically
[14:35] <DAY1> hello
[14:35] <DAY1> ?
[14:35] <mac_> am.. how do i know if i have 3d acceleration?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> mac_: if you run: sudo lshw -C display  ,what driver and chip are you using?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> day1: hi
[14:36] <mac_> pci (sysfs)
[14:36] <mac_> paste page, please
[14:36] <DAY1> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[14:36] <DAY1>  ?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> mac_ give it time your pci bus is slow
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> day1: what are you doing to cause that messagen
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> day1: also please give the output of: cat /etc/issue
[14:37] <mac_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5771068/
[14:38] <DAY1> BackTrack 5 R3 - 64 Bit \n \l
[14:38] <acerimmer> !backtrack|DAY1,
[14:38] <mac_> it  worked a few days back.. so it is not hardware, or?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> day1: ask in #kali-linux or #backtrack-linux
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> day1: backtrack's support is completely separate from ubuntu's
[14:39] <DAY1> thanks
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> mac_: in a terminal, run: gnome-shell --replace
[14:41] <mac_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5771078/
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> mac_: if you get any warnings etc then search the web to see what needs to happen
[14:43] <mac_> and wich line do i need to google?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> mac_: try the whole thing...
[14:46] <mac_> nothing
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> mac_: also look through /var/log/Xorg.0.log for issues
[14:48] <mac_> ActionParsnip, i have log and log old
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1864826
[14:50] <krz> how do i set an $EDITOR env variable to vim
[14:50] <Oins> After clicking on an encrypted partition, there is a window opening "Enter a password to unlock the volume". Is there an alternative gui where I can set a key file for opening the volume? Key is already set on one keyslot. I use 12.04.2 LTS.
[14:51] <mac_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5771104/
[14:52] <Nikko1962> ciao a tutti
[14:52] <FoxTrot> Hi, can anybody help me with programing at QT
[14:52] <acerimmer> !it|Nikko1962,
[14:53] <acerimmer> FoxTrot, this isn't really a programming channel.  QT probably has a channel of it's own.  Check the support options.
[14:54] <mac_> ActionParsnip,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5771104/
[14:54] <the_drow> Hello, I'm packaging multiple python libraries into a debian package. I typed bzr dh-make python-bootstrap 2.6 python-bootstrap-2.6.tar.gz and now I'm getting Type of package: single binary, indep binary, multiple binary, library, kernel module, kernel patch? I'm not sure which one is it.
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> krz: export EDITOR=vim
[14:55] <Eagleman> Is there a way to do incremental backups of a vmdk file ( vmware disk ) and encrypt it automaticly?
[14:55] <the_drow> Is it multiple binary or library?
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> krz: could put it in ~/.bashrc
[14:55] <krz> ok
[14:55] <krz> thanks
[15:00] <mac_> can any1 help me over this??? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5771104/
[15:04] <Eagleman> Is there a way to do incremental backups of a vmdk file ( vmware disk ) and encrypt it automaticly?
[15:06] <mac_> can any1 help me over gnome fall back and error inside this??? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5771104/
[15:07] <DAY1> Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:07] <DAY1>  help me
[15:08] <pawel__> hi everyone
[15:10] <pawel__> i'm here because i have a problem with my wifi, and looking for help... wifi in my laptop is ok, router is ok, but together they don't work, what can it be?
[15:10] <urbanslug> why are there no channels all about stupid shit like porn and being dumb and drugs and weed and getting high?
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> !language | urbanslug
[15:14] <urbanslug> I just asked don't kick me out of here.
[15:14] <urbanslug> Apologies
[15:14] <urbanslug> So uh why isn't there a channel for such?
[15:14] <auronandace> urbanslug: ask in #freenode
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> urbanslug  switch off your pc, go outside and discuss those things with your friends
[15:15] <urbanslug> Okay I'm out thanks though.
[15:18] <krz> anyone use tmux? where do i find the config file so i can edit it?
[15:19] <m4st3r_n1ghtm4r3> hey guys
[15:19] <auronandace> straw men
[15:20] <m4st3r_n1ghtm4r3> :p
[15:20] <urbanslug> auronandace I am an expert in straw men what question might you have?
[15:21] <Charmlet> so, anyone know if there's a way of secretly installing ubuntu behind windows?
[15:21] <auronandace> Charmlet: what do you mean by behind?
[15:21] <Charmlet> so that default boot with no screens or anything is windows, but boot settings allow for ubuntu
[15:22] <gordonjcp> Charmlet: yeah, dead easy
[15:22] <Charmlet> as in a dual boot, but the default and automatic is windows?
[15:22] <gordonjcp> just grub up to boot Windows
[15:22] <Charmlet> and I'll be right back, I need a water
[15:22] <gordonjcp> and set it so you hit a key to display the grub menu
[15:23] <Eagleman> Is there a way to do incremental backups of a vmdk file ( vmware disk ) and encrypt it automaticly?
[15:23] <Charmlet> k, gordonjcp I'm going to come in on my phone so I can alk to you while I do this. I'm stupid :P
[15:23] <mac_> can any1 help me over gnome fall back and error inside this??? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5771104/
[15:26] <Celebi> gordonjcp: so i shouljust boot from the usb?
[15:27] <WeirdEnthusiast> anyone here knows how to dual boot ubuntu and windows 8?
[15:27] <WeirdEnthusiast> :O
[15:27] <auronandace> !uefi | WeirdEnthusiast
[15:27] <narothepharoh> how do i enable mp3 on k3b?
[15:27] <WeirdEnthusiast> Thanks, ubottu.
[15:28] <WeirdEnthusiast> Read that,mate.
[15:28] <WeirdEnthusiast> But Ubuntu doesn't boot.
[15:28] <WeirdEnthusiast> My machine's UEFI acts up weirdly.
[15:28] <WeirdEnthusiast> No clue why,whatsoever.
[15:28] <theadmin> WeirdEnthusiast: In short: disable fast boot, disable safe boot, insert Ubuntu CD, go to Settings -> Change PC Settings -> General -> Advanced Boot Options (Windows can mess with EFI to configure boot parameters) -> Boot from removable media -> Boot from CD or DVD
[15:29] <theadmin> WeirdEnthusiast: Then install normally
[15:29] <narothepharoh> how do i enable mp3 on k3b?
[15:29] <razzledazzle> anyone have experience with clonezilla?
[15:29] <razzledazzle> I need to know how to recover image files backed up from sda3 to sda5
[15:29] <razzledazzle> very urgent.
[15:30] <WeirdEnthusiast> theadmin: thanks,I'll try that. =)
[15:31] <SPV2008> I'm currently running ubuntu 13.04, although i still had the issue with ubuntu 12.10. My touchpad keeps not responding to clicks, whether it is tapping the touchpad or clicking the button. If i leave it a while, it sometimes keeps responding and if i restart the computer it starts responding again. Its an old laptop (about 6-7 years old), so i think its probably a driver issue. Does anyone have any solutions?
[15:33] <SPV2008> does anyone have any solutions for me?
[15:35] <SPV2008> anyone?
[15:35] <ilvcom> hi
[15:36] <SPV2008> does no one have a solution?
[15:36] <theadmin> SPV2008: When noone answers, noone knows, typically. Try on askubuntu.com
[15:36] <X200> I just joined, what is the problem?
[15:36] <gchristensen> would anyone be so kind as to provide me their fstab? I hosed mine by mistake, and want to verify I restored it properly.
[15:36] <DAY1> Setting up se-toolkit (4.2.1-bt0) ...
[15:36] <DAY1> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:36] <DAY1>  se-toolkit
[15:36] <DAY1> LOG:  received SIGHUP, reloading configuration files
[15:36] <DAY1> E: Sub-process usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:36] <DAY1> helpmee
[15:36] <FloodBot1> DAY1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:36] <Akuw> where can i get graphics.h ?
[15:36] <SPV2008> i just thought everyone had went inactive.
[15:37] <SPV2008> I'm currently running ubuntu 13.04, although i still had the issue with ubuntu 12.10. My touchpad keeps not responding to clicks, whether it is tapping the touchpad or clicking the button. If i leave it a while, it sometimes keeps responding and if i restart the computer it starts responding again. Its an old laptop (about 6-7 years old), so i think its probably a driver issue. (thats the issue)
[15:37] <SPV2008> any idea then X200?
[15:38] <Akuw> i am learning http://www.programmingsimplified.com/c/program/draw-shapes
[15:38] <MoPac> Hello. I think my question is a very quick one. When I unlock a secondary keychain in 13.04, which I do at every login, I always have to untick the box asking to auto-unlock it at login, which would store the secondary keychain password under the primary login one.  I never want to do this.  Is there some way to make that box unchecked by default?
[15:40] <X200> SPV2008: You should test it with older versions of Ubuntu (Live CD) to make sure that it's realy a driver issue. It's possible that the laptop is old and just broke down. Other than that, ican't help you, sorry.
[15:40] <MoPac> [sorry, unexpectedly going AFK for a while now.  Any reply to the above is much appreciated]
[15:42] <DAY1> help me
[15:42] <DAY1> ?
[15:42] <DAY1> Setting up se-toolkit (4.2.1-bt0) ...
[15:42] <DAY1> <DAY1> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:42] <DAY1> <DAY1>  se-toolkit
[15:42] <DAY1> <DAY1> LOG:  received SIGHUP, reloading configuration files
[15:42] <FloodBot1> DAY1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:44] <raven_> hi
[15:44] <raven_> is there any tool like projectx for h264/hd? i need to cut hd tv files with 5.1 ac3 sound - without reencoding would be nice
[15:44] <ikonia> is mysql_connect depreciated ?
[15:44] <ikonia> (in 5.4 or later)
[15:44] <l0p3n> Hello! Can anyone tell me where I can find the documentation for /etc/ufw/sysctl.conf?
[15:44] <ikonia> sorry
[15:44] <ikonia> oops, wrong channel
[15:46] <ggherdov> hi all. When I run program like emacs I get a "fontconfig error" , full trascript here http://bpaste.net/show/f3ZNMKrJZz5HlKZSLvAW/ . why so ? how to fix?
[15:48] <raven_> is there any tool like projectx for h264/hd? i need to cut hd tv files with 5.1 ac3 sound - without reencoding would be nice
[15:51] <vlt> Hello. Can anyone tell me the correct "AlsaDevice = hw:1,?" line for an NI Komplete Audio 6? (I'm trying to get it working with mocp.)
[15:52] <vlt> I tried hw:1,0 and hw:1,1 but always get a "can't send() int to server" error message from mocp
[15:53] <wheatthin> reisio, actually newb's need to start out with looking at man pages, and reading documents, and then come here if all else fails. Plus, it gives you the tools to be self sufficient
[15:53] <ratek_1> raven, doesnt ffmpeg do that with -acodec copy -vcodec copy
[15:54] <reisio> wheatthin: you responding to something from hours ago?
 they'd rather make newbies be silent instead of teaching them the proper way
[15:55] <wheatthin> I don't know if it was hours ago
[15:55] <ratek_1> check the time :-P
[15:55] <doomlord__> is there a compatability list showing which windows 8 touchscreen & hybrid laptop-tablets Ubuntu is known to work well with.. (my current laptop has fan-control issues - would be nice to check on things like that before choosing a next laptop)
[15:55] <reisio> last msg I sent was over two hours ago
[15:56] <wheatthin> ahh yeah
[15:56] <reisio> no idea what you're talking about :D
[15:56] <wheatthin> I guess so
[15:56] <reisio> don't care enough to lastlog :D
[15:56] <wheatthin> it's xchat, I guess it saved it
[15:57] <wheatthin> either way, telling other people that we don't like to help is stupid, cause that's why most of us are here
[15:57] <reisio> if you say so
[15:57] <ratek_1> its an option in xchat
[15:57] <reisio> but I'm sure I've never said that
[15:57] <reisio> so again, no idea what you're talking about
[15:58] <wheatthin> it was 1:36 this morning
[15:58] <bazhang> !ot
[16:00] <soupa> hi all
[16:01] <soupa> anybody from new delhi
[16:01] <reisio> soupa: some people are, yes
[16:01]  * reisio wins
[16:02] <drlector> helllooooooooooooooooooo
[16:03] <malimbar> can rm look through the contents of all foldres in a directory? I'm trying to get rid of mp4 files in my music folder
[16:03] <drlector> lotus......... you here ?
[16:03] <wheatthin> malimbar, yes with the -r
[16:03] <wheatthin> it means recursive
[16:03] <reisio> malimbar: find start/path/ -iname '*.mp4'
[16:03] <reisio> malimbar: find start/path/ -iname '*.mp4' -delete, etc.
[16:03] <Eagleman> I am using duplicity and ghettovcb to backup my virtual machines on esxi
[16:03] <reisio> Eagleman: :)
[16:05] <Eagleman> reisio, ow i pressed enter before completing my message xD
[16:05] <malimbar> ah, thanks guys
[16:06] <drlector> <[16:06] <drlector> <[16:06] <reisio> <== :)
[16:06] <reisio> Eagleman: ow
[16:06] <Tm_T> drlector: hi, this is not social channel but technical support channel, please refrain from chit chat
[16:07] <drlector> i am not chit chatiing want help
[16:07] <reisio> malimbar: find start/path/ -iname '*.mp4' -exec mv -n {} ~/.Trash/ \; etc.
[16:07] <drlector> i have both ubuntu and windows on the same drive
[16:08] <reisio> yeah?
[16:08] <drlector> how can i see all hidden files on the drive on the windows section of the drive
[16:08] <malimbar> reisio, used "find -iname '*.m4p' -delete" and it seems it did what I wanted
[16:08] <malimbar> and I meant m4p, silly me
[16:08] <drlector> i need to find the autoexec.bat
[16:08] <drlector> and the config file
[16:08] <reisio> malimbar: :)
[16:08] <reisio> find does it all
[16:08] <theadmin> drlector: "hidden" files aren't hidden in Ubuntu, they just show up as normal files
[16:08] <drlector> hmmmmmmm
[16:09] <drlector> I cant see to find them :(
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> drlector  autoexec.bat and config.sys sounds "très" windows 3.11 to me
[16:09] <reisio> heh
[16:09] <drlector> they are simply not there
[16:09] <malimbar> reisio, seems I'm going to fall into a find man page, I was barking up rm when that doesn't do it apparently
[16:09] <reisio> #windows will know about where they are
[16:09] <drlector> lol
[16:09] <reisio> rm does stuff, but find does more stuff
[16:10] <drlector> first time using ubuntu and really loving it
[16:10] <drlector> wine good for gaming ?
[16:10] <reisio> quite
[16:10] <Eagleman> I am using duplicity and ghettovcb to backup a virtual machine with a 20GB vmdk disk on esxi, however when running duplicity for a second time it should do an incremental backup, which it does but the incremental backup is the same size as a full backup, and i am pretty sure that only 500 mb of changed occured before the backup, any idea why duplicity is making the incrmental backup so large?
[16:10] <reisio> there are even some reports of better performance than using Windows
[16:11] <reisio> Eagleman: try #duplicity
[16:11] <reisio> Eagleman: I'd just use rdiff-backup, though, myself
[16:11] <reisio> no GUI, no fuss
[16:11] <drlector> does ubuntu have a "taskbar" for all opened tabs ?
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> Eagleman  use rsync -a to make an incremental backup
[16:12] <Eagleman> reisio, that channel is dead, i just moved on from my own script to duplicity becuase it does everything my old script did, and more
[16:12] <reisio> maybe should've checked it did it properly first? :/
[16:12] <Eagleman> MonkeyDust, the backups also need to be encrypted, and split into small archives
[16:12] <reisio> they do? Why?
[16:13] <Eagleman> reisio, becuase it is going to be send to a remote site, incremental saves me uploading and encrypting makes it safe
[16:13] <iceroot> Eagleman: deja-dup is encryptin and splitting the backup
[16:13] <wheatthin> drlector, if you're using a recent version, then the taskbar of opened programs is where you launched the program from. instead of using a new taskbar, they integrated it into the launcher
[16:13] <Eagleman> iceroot: Déjà Dup is a simple backup tool. It hides the complexity of backing up the Right Way (encrypted, off-site, and regular) and uses duplicity as the backend.
[16:14] <reisio> Eagleman: rsync is already incremental
[16:14] <Eagleman> iceroot, not sure how that is going to help me
[16:14] <reisio> and rdiff-backup uses rsync
[16:14] <reisio> and each can use ssh, making the transfer secure
[16:14] <reisio> if you want the end result encrypted, I'd probably use encfs or ecryptfs
[16:14] <iceroot> Eagleman: didnt get your initial question just that you need splitting and encrypting
[16:14] <MoPac> Hello. I think my question is a very quick one. When I unlock a secondary keychain in 13.04, which I do at every login, I always have to untick the box asking to auto-unlock it at login, which would store the secondary keychain password under the primary login one.  I never want to do this.  Is there some way to make that box unchecked by default?
[16:14] <drlector> i just installed "Wine" where does it install to?  :s how do i get to run it ?
[16:15] <reisio> MoPac: there is, but I don't recall the specifics :)
[16:15] <reisio> drlector: it doesn't do much on its own
[16:15] <reisio> drlector: try running a .exe from your file manager
[16:16] <Eagleman> reisio, the remote site does not have a file system and does not have ssh support
[16:16] <wheatthin> Eagleman, it has a filesystem, just not one you can manage
[16:16] <reisio> :/
[16:16] <wheatthin> can't*
[16:17] <chimlac> hi all
[16:17] <reisio> Eagleman: is it ftp?
[16:17] <reisio> I wonder what the overhead of ftpfs and encfs would be :p
[16:17] <Eagleman> reisio, rackspace cloud files, using an api
[16:17] <reisio> chimlac: hi
[16:17] <reisio> an api, ew
[16:17] <MoPac> reisio: Know where I might be able to look?  Not sure what kind of search terms to use for the issue
[16:17] <chimlac> :)
[16:18] <reisio> MoPac: http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20keyring%20all%20users ?
[16:18] <raven_> is there any tool like projectx for h264/hd? i need to cut hd tv files with 5.1 ac3 sound - without reencoding would be nice
[16:18] <drlector> reisio where doi filnd file manager ? :(
[16:18] <Eagleman> But anyway, i came here for a solutions, not replacements, if rsync uses the same as duplicuty, then i will have the same problem
[16:18] <Eagleman> solution
[16:19] <reisio> drlector: the GUI that shows you your files is called a file manager
[16:19] <reisio> if you see a .exe file you can click on, you're using a file manager
[16:19] <reisio> raven_: maybe mp4box from gpac
[16:20] <reisio> raven_: ffmpeg can do stuff, too, but the more complex it gets the more likely you'll need to reencode
[16:20] <raven_> reisio, i need to cut on frame size
[16:20] <reisio> potentially, for example, ffmpeg -i input -ss 00:10:00 -t 00:01:00 -vcodec copy -acodec copy output
[16:20] <reisio> raven_: to do what?
[16:21] <raven_> reisio, i need to cut on 1/50 second
[16:22] <reisio> raven_: cut on?
[16:22] <raven_> reisio, its easy to understand
[16:23] <reisio> nope
[16:23] <raven_> reisio, so obviously you have no idea about video editing - tnx bye
[16:24] <reisio> yw
[16:24] <drlector> Wine Windows Program Loader
[16:25] <drlector> it shows as installed on the webpaged that was opened
[16:25] <drlector> cant find it
[16:25] <drlector> :(
[16:25] <reisio> hrmm?
[16:25] <auronandace> drlector: what do you want to use wine for?
[16:25] <drlector> World of Warcraft
[16:26] <auronandace> drlector: then install world of warcraft
[16:26] <drlector> it is already installed on my driver .... under windows
[16:26] <drlector> thus the need for Wine to run it from there
[16:26] <auronandace> drlector: you need to install it under wine
[16:26] <theadmin> drlector: To use Wine, you just double-click any .exe file
[16:26] <theadmin> drlector: And it runs
[16:27] <reisio> yeah it might not work without reinstalling it
[16:27] <reisio> or a lot of effort
[16:27] <drlector> genius
[16:27] <drlector> just double lick
[16:27] <reisio> heh
[16:27] <wheatthin> lmao
[16:27] <reisio> I think I said that :p
[16:27]  * drlector facepalm
[16:27] <reisio> at the outset
[16:27] <Eagleman> drlector, can you see the files?
[16:27] <drlector> yeah all the wow files
[16:28] <Eagleman> drlector, so you did mount the ntfs partition under linux?
[16:28] <drlector> just thought it would have to be told to use Wine
[16:28] <theadmin> drlector: You *may* need to also specify that you want them to be opened with WINE in Properties -> Open With..., because Ubuntu's archive manager sometimes thinks they're archives and tries to load them
[16:28] <drlector> yeah that was what i feared
[16:28] <theadmin> drlector: But I didn't have to do that for a while now, might have been fixed
[16:28] <drlector> just doublle clicked and run like a thief
[16:29] <drlector> i can see myself using Ubuntu a lot
[16:30] <drlector> i can see myself dropping windows like a bad habbit
[16:30] <reisio> :p
[16:30] <reisio> yeah WoW has a platinum rating via Wine, IIRC
[16:30] <reisio> means it runs perfectly
[16:30] <drlector> i would love to grab the music that is now playing on this musicbox thing
[16:30] <reisio> musicbox thing?
[16:31] <drlector> rhythmbox :P
[16:31] <drlector> hehe
[16:32] <reisio> is it streaming or what?
[16:32] <drlector> yeah streaming
[16:32] <iceroot> what is the correct way to scan an iso-file for viruses with clam-scan? do i need to mount the iso? or should an iso be readable directly and i just have to start the scan on the iso-file?
[16:32] <reisio> drlector: search the package manager for 'streamripper'
[16:32] <reisio> drlector: or mplayer
[16:33] <reisio> mplayer -dumpstream URIhere -dumpfile foo
[16:33] <reisio> potentially with -playlist
[16:33] <drlector> reisio = legend am on it
[16:33] <reisio> iceroot: clamscan -ir top/dir/
[16:33] <drlector> not sure about package manager though
[16:33] <reisio> iceroot: mmm, I'd be more confident about mounted
[16:33] <drlector> erm? google ?
[16:33] <iceroot> reisio: and the question about the iso?
[16:33] <reisio> iceroot: mount -o loop path/to/image /mnt/point
[16:34] <reisio> drlector: software center
[16:34] <reisio> drlector: etc.
[16:35] <drlector> ubuntu making computing easy
[16:35] <drlector> after soo many years
[16:35] <iceroot> reisio: thx
[16:37] <drlector> k reisio now to find that streamripper
[16:37] <drlector> install but where... ??? grrrrrrr
[16:37] <reisio> drlector: find software center's search input box
[16:37] <reisio> drlector: oh, probably in your menu
[16:37] <drlector> i did got it installed it
[16:37] <reisio> if you've got a terminal, you can run dpkg -L streamripper | grep bin
[16:37] <drlector> dude ...terminal ?
[16:37] <reisio> drlector: it's more reliable for finding out such things
[16:38] <drlector> i am a windows person
[16:38] <reisio> drlector: you might have wanted gstreamripper or kstreamripper, t hough
[16:38] <theadmin> drlector: Just press the Super key and search for "streamripper"... The search ain't there for nothing
[16:38] <reisio> for the GNOME or KDE GUI frontends
[16:38] <auronandace> drlector: if you are in unity just press the win key on your keyboard and start typing what you want
[16:39] <drlector> so windows key = terminal ?
[16:39] <auronandace> drlector: no
[16:39] <theadmin> drlector: No, Windows key (or how it's properly called, Super key) just opens the main Ubuntu menu, Dash, where you can search for anything you like
[16:39] <drlector> ok
[16:39] <drlector> seems legit
[16:40] <auronandace> drlector: ctrl + alt + t will launch a terminal
[16:40] <drlector> ok have terminal now
[16:40] <theadmin> drlector: You might just want this: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/kstreamripper/
[16:40] <theadmin> drlector: Is a graphical version of Streamripper
[16:41] <theadmin> drlector: Would work better for a Windows user
[16:41] <drlector> thank you sire
[16:41]  * drlector bows
[16:41] <theadmin> Hm this is odd...
[16:41] <theadmin> The last version of it was packaged in Lucid
[16:42] <reisio> echo in here
[16:42] <theadmin> drlector: Sorry, probably won't do :/ Seems to be an outdated software as it's not in any of the current Ubuntu releases
[16:43] <theadmin> drlector: I'm looking for alternatives now, give me a while :D
[16:43] <drlector> silly question do ATI make drivers for UBUNTU ?
[16:43] <nicktest1> dns
[16:43] <auronandace> drlector: yes
[16:43] <k1l> !fglrx | drlector
[16:44] <mamed> hello . i have a problem with adobe flash in my ubuntu 12.04 32 bit system  .i cannot set the webcam ettings
[16:45] <theadmin> drlector: Yes, open up System Settings -> Hardware Drivers or System Settings -> Software and Updates -> Additional drivers (depending on your version) to install extra drivers for your hardware, if at all available
[16:45] <theadmin> mamed: Yeah, that's a bug that persisted for ages. Go here: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager06.html and set your webcam settings there
[16:45] <moondoggy> Can someone give me any advice about getting a bluetooth headset to work in 12.04?
[16:46] <moondoggy> I can pair it, but it doesn't show up in sound settings.
[16:46] <mamed> theadmin, it is no working either
[16:46] <Guest68691> can someone help me with bash, I want to recursively make compressed files of files with defined filetype works on js and css files and images but html files aren't compressed | http://pastebin.com/cy5rfzbC | manualy it works gzip -9 -c testgzip.html > testgzip.html.gz
[16:46] <theadmin> mamed: That one works -- find the website to allow cam for (you need to visit it first, of course) and then click it and choose "Always allow"
[16:47] <auronandace> Guest68691: #bash could help too
[16:47] <drlector> wooooooooooot my first terminal and i got a reply
[16:47] <drlector> lol
[16:47] <drlector> lspci -nn| grep VGA 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Barts XT [Radeon HD 6870] [1002:6738]
[16:48] <daftykins> drlector: they do, although under the name 'AMD' since AMD bought ATI now. are you trying to game, or?
[16:48] <JamesfromThames> Hey guys, I'm trying to install amd drivers, but installer tells me this: "/lib/modules/3.8.0-19-generic/build/include/linux/version.h cannot be found on this system."
[16:48] <drlector> just want to make sure all drivers are updated
[16:48] <JamesfromThames> Even though I have it on my system
[16:49] <daftykins> JamesfromThames: i assume you tried to download the ones from the AMD website to install?
[16:49] <JamesfromThames> Yes
[16:49] <auronandace> JamesfromThames: you really should stick to installing the drivers from the repos
[16:49] <daftykins> JamesfromThames: that doesn't tend to be the best way to install graphics drivers on Ubuntu
[16:49] <theadmin> JamesfromThames: sudo apt-get install fglrx to get ATI drivers
[16:49] <JamesfromThames> I'm a first time Linux user :/
[16:50] <theadmin> JamesfromThames: Or simply go to System Settings -> Software and Updates -> Additional Drivers and install from there
[16:50] <theadmin> JamesfromThames: (or System Settings -> Additional Drivers on 12.04)
[16:50] <daftykins> drlector: if everything you needs works, don't try and install a driver. the Windows style approach doesn't do you any favours in Linux land
[16:50] <JamesfromThames> Additional drivers doesn't show anything
[16:50] <moondoggy> Any idea about bluetooth headsets in Ubuntu?  I see lots of complaints on the forums, but no answers.
[16:50] <mamed> theadmin, i did wht you told . when i enter the website i still see the adboe flashplayer settings window and set nothing
[16:50] <daftykins> moondoggy: i think bluetooth tends to be a mess. i'd avoid it
[16:51]  * drlector bows understood daftykins
[16:51] <moondoggy> Ugh.  I knew this would happen.  :(  I'm on Mac hardware, which can't help the situation.
[16:51] <theadmin> JamesfromThames: Hm, well, try the command I gave and if it works you're lucky, if not well, probably best not to try. ATI drops support for old video cards too quickly and adds support for newer ones too slowly
[16:52] <mamed> can we use gnash
[16:52] <mamed> in debian with xfce . it was working
[16:52] <theadmin> mamed: Gnash is in the repos, yes
[16:52] <theadmin> mamed: Not sure how well it works nowadays
[16:52] <auronandace> !info gnash | mamed
[16:52] <mamed> so i wll try it
[16:53] <mamed> it was working debian xfce wheezy
[16:53] <mamed> after i installed flash it didnot work in debian
[16:53] <JamesfromThames> "unable to locate package fglrx"
[16:53] <theadmin> JamesfromThames: It's in restricted, do you have that enabled?
[16:53] <JamesfromThames> IDK haha
[16:53] <JamesfromThames> How do I enable it?
[16:54] <JamesfromThames> Like I said, newb here
[16:54] <p17x> hello. i need the header files for btrfs in /usr/include/btrfs. for ext2 exists the package e2fslibs-dev, but I dont see one for btrfs
[16:54] <daftykins> theadmin: i seem to recall there being some extra step to make additional drivers notice what hardware you have -?
[16:54] <theadmin> JamesfromThames: System Settings -> Software Sources (or Software and Updates) -> Check the box that has "blah blah blah (restricted)" next to it
[16:54] <drlector> $#@@ $@  if only i could the software that i installed   :(
[16:54] <theadmin> JamesfromThames: Can't remember the description it provides
[16:54]  * drlector shakes fist
[16:55] <k1l> drlector: you accidently sentence
[16:55] <theadmin> daftykins: Uh, never had to do anything like that, usually just worked for me
[16:56] <JamesfromThames> It was already enable
[16:56] <JamesfromThames> enabled*
[16:56] <theadmin> JamesfromThames: Hmms.
[16:56] <theadmin> JamesfromThames: What Ubuntu version is this?
[16:56] <JamesfromThames> 13.04
[16:57] <daftykins> theadmin: ah thought i read something along these lines recently but can't remember. nm
[16:57] <theadmin> JamesfromThames: Odd. It's definetly in raring's restricted repo
[17:00] <praka> Hola maigos
[17:01] <drlector> Ouch i just removed a programe from the taskbar ...
[17:01] <drlector> Is there and "undo" ?
[17:01] <drlector> :s
[17:01] <praka> Tengo un problema con ubuntu 10.04 alguien me podría auxiliar?
[17:02] <Kester__> need help was on automatic upgrade from 12.04 to 13 through network connection and it crashed half way through.
[17:03] <k1l> !spanish | praka
[17:04] <Kester__> It bbots up into the splash screen with the Ubuntu Logo and dots then go blank
[17:04] <Kester__> boots
[17:05] <auronandace> !nomodeset | Kester__
[17:06] <Kester__> nothing to do with the fact it was updating online and it crashed?
[17:06] <Kester__> I am using a USB flash on the same hardware
[17:10] <Slart> Hi, I'm having some problems running Wuala in 64 bit ubuntu 12.10, I get the following output when I try running the client http://paste.ubuntu.com/5771485/ . I'm not really sure what the problem might be.. bad java version? corrupt wuala application? something else?
[17:10] <daftykins> Slart: you might have open java installed instead of Oracle's Java?
[17:12] <Slart> daftykins: yes, that's correct.. but I've been running wuala for over a year with openjdk without problems.. and from googling it doesn't seem like anyone else is having these problems
[17:13] <bradley_> can anyone here help me with mysql?
[17:13] <daftykins> bradley_: they have their own channels
[17:13] <bradley_> what is it?
[17:13] <Slart> daftykins: perhaps I'm wrong but it seems that if openjdk would be the problem there would be lots and lots of posts about this on their forums... but I can try with oracles java.. just to check
[17:13] <daftykins> idk, at a guess #mysql or ##mysql?
[17:13] <Eagleman> I am using duplicity and ghettovcb to backup a virtual machine with a 20GB vmdk disk on esxi, however when running duplicity for a second time it should do an incremental backup, which it does but the incremental backup is the same size as a full backup, and i am pretty sure that only 500 mb of changed occured before the backup, any idea why duplicity is making the incrmental backup so large?
[17:14] <daftykins> Slart: would there be? i don't know the program to know what the users' would be like, but surely they'd all consider to use official Java just to make it work
[17:14] <Slart> daftykins: perhaps you're right.. I'll give it a try
[17:15] <daftykins> Slart: let me know how it goes!
[17:23] <Guest6396> hello,some people online?
[17:23] <subz3r0> no
[17:23] <Guest6396> ..
[17:23] <bekks> Guest6396: Several hundreds.
[17:23] <subz3r0> ...²
[17:23] <crack>  - -
[17:25] <crack> I want to ask a question,can you help me?
[17:25] <Syria> Please help me with this !  E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[17:25] <Slart> daftykins: well.. what do you know.. installing oracles jre worked.. wuala is working again. Thanks!
[17:25] <subz3r0> !ask | crack
[17:26] <Slart> Syria: you're trying to run apt? try using sudo to make it run as root
[17:26] <drlector> :(
[17:26] <Slart> Syria: or make sure you're only running one installation at a time
[17:26] <drlector> ubuntu just crashed
[17:26] <crack> about netgames,you konw?
[17:27] <Syria> Slart: Even If I am a root I get this "E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)"
[17:27] <Slart> Syria: are you running Synaptic, Software center or something else in the background?
[17:28] <Slart> Syria: or did you run some kind of install that crashed before it finished? tried rebooting?
[17:28] <BluesKaj> make sure your software center isn't open ,or a terminal is updating your packages at the same time , Syria
[17:28] <Syria> Slart: Nope, I have the same problem since few days and shutting the computer down did not solve it.
[17:29] <Slart> Syria: what command are you running when this error pops up?
[17:29] <crack> subz3r0: hello?
[17:29] <BluesKaj> Syria, in the terminal , sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:29] <Syria> Slart:  BluesKaj When I try to install anything using"sudo apt-get install package" E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[17:29] <subz3r0> crack: if you are not able to ask in a decent way. get lost and do no disturb me. thanks
[17:30] <Eagleman> I am using duplicity and ghettovVCB to backup a virtual machine with a 20GB disk ( vmdk ), however when running duplicity for a second time it should do an incremental backup, but the incremental backup is the half oe the size as a full backup, the virtual disk did not changed that much, any idea why duplicity is making the incremental backup so large?
[17:30] <drlector> why is my rythemox suddenly gone from the taskbar ?
[17:30] <daftykins> Slart: my pleasure :) as it goes, looking at your logs further looks like it was making use of a method that open java didn't have, namely the 'Caused by' line from your pastebin
[17:30] <Somelauw> Is it true that ubuntu is both more stable and faster than debian testing? (or should this be in offtopic?)
[17:30] <IdleOne> Somelauw: off topic please
[17:31] <bekks> Eagleman: Because the file changed meanwhile?
[17:31] <Syria> BluesKaj:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5771540/ ... please see this
[17:31] <Eagleman> bekks, not 5GB ( a bit more becuase it is compressed )
[17:32] <bekks> Eagleman: How do you know that? vbox doesnt use change block tracking, so you cant tell that.
[17:32] <Somelauw> IdleOne: ok
[17:32] <crack> subz3r0: what?
[17:32] <daftykins> Syria: sudo dpkg -remove libkdeclarative5 && sudo apt-get -f install
[17:32] <Eagleman> bekks, it is just my OS on that disk, the data is placed on another partition ( mariadb, website )
[17:33] <Eagleman> bekks, it is also esxi, not vbox
[17:33] <Syria> daftykins:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5771550/ .... something is wrong with the command.
[17:34] <drlector> anyway i can get rythembox to stay on the taskbar so that it there each time i load ubuntu ?
[17:34] <bekks> Eagleman: So you could easily investigate whats actually going on your ESX, using vSphere e.g. - I bet the vm changes that much.
[17:34] <BluesKaj> Syria, have you run , sudp apt-get -f install ?
[17:34] <BluesKaj> er sudo
[17:34] <crack> subz3r0: Can i ask you something about network ganme algorithm for the problem? For example, the probability of equipment to strengthen the
[17:35] <Syria> BluesKaj: It did not work before! But now it seems to be working ! the package is being installed. let me see.
[17:35] <Eagleman> bekks, what i could do is making a backup, then after that i make another backup ( 10 sec between them ), and then run duplicity
[17:36] <Eagleman> But that process will take about 12 hours, just to make an incremental backup
[17:36] <BluesKaj> syria , sometimes dpkg --configure -a sets the packages correctly for installing with -f
[17:37] <Syria> BluesKaj:  daftykins Slart Thank you guys . :)
[17:37] <bekks> Eagleman: duplicity doesnt use block changes, but file changes only, as far as I can see. So Incremental backups wont save you that much.
[17:38] <Eagleman> bekks: i found this:  Duplicity uses the rsync algorithm so only the changed parts of files are sent to the archive when doing an incremental backup. For instance, if a long log file increases by just a few lines of text, a small diff will be sent to and saved in the archive. Other backup programs may save a complete copy of the file.
[17:39] <bekks> Eagleman: Text - not binary files like a vm disk image.
[17:39] <bekks> Eagleman: And a small change will cause a different checksum and the whole file will be transferred.
[17:40] <reisio> Eagleman: I said that at the outset :p
[17:40] <T31337> so how can i fix broken acpi?
[17:41] <T31337> fn+F8/F9 for brightness won' work
[17:41] <ix_> I've changed the file permissions of a file but after reboot, it resets
[17:41] <ix_> how can I keep file permissions after reboot?
[17:41] <T31337> :( what file?
[17:41] <ix_> T31337: /sys/devices/platform/s3c24xx-pwm.0/pwm-backlight.0/backlight/pwm-backlight.0/brightness
[17:42] <raven_> thunderbird: importexporttools only exports up to 14 messages every try - any idea/solution?
[17:42] <Eagleman> bekks, not sure but the text is only an example so only the changed parts of files are sent to the archive when doing an incremental backup, do you have a source for the binary part?
[17:42] <bekks> ix_: There is no way to keep the permissions on a volatile filesystem.
[17:42] <T31337> did you change permissions with root? or standard user? (should be root)
[17:42] <bekks> Eagleman: "rsync" - it just checksums, and transfers the whole file in case of a change.
[17:43] <bekks> T31337: That doesnt matter. /sys is not a persistent filesystem.
[17:43] <ix_> bekks: ok, is there any way to do the echo command with sudo instead of root?
[17:43] <user_trying> in linux how to know what files is needed by an application, example  we want to know what files is needed by "ls" command, ??
[17:43] <bekks> ix_: echo ... | sudo tee ...
[17:44] <bekks> user_trying: What do you mean by "which files"? "ls" is a shell builtin command.
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> user_trying  start with apt-cache depends ls
[17:44] <Eagleman> bekks, i am still not convinced, only the part that changed is included in the diff, so if i have a file with text in it, and add "Hello" to it, Hello will be included in the diff, and not the rest of the text in that file
[17:44] <T31337> what is default file manager on xubntu?
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> T31337  pcmanfm
[17:45] <reisio> Eagleman: did you just describe what you want?
[17:45] <reisio> MonkeyDust: really?
[17:46] <user_trying> bekks, ok if we put example not builtin , such as gufw, how to it
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> !info pcmanfm
[17:46] <reisio> T31337: it's probably Thunar
[17:46] <bekks> user_trying: What do you mean by "which files" are needed? What are you really trying to investigate?
[17:46] <reisio> Xfce's file manager
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> isnt thunar for kde?
[17:46] <nightfly> no
[17:46] <bekks> MonkeyDust: Thats dolphin.
[17:46] <drlector> no luck with stream ripper
[17:46] <th0r> reisio: I thought thunar also...at least in 12.04
[17:46] <Eagleman> reisio, yes but then for vmdk files, also in combination with encryption, archiving, incremental possibility's
[17:46] <reisio> I feel like "that's dolphin" should be slang for something
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> true, pcmanfm is for lubuntu, my mistake
[17:47] <reisio> Eagleman: I still suggest starting with rdiff-backup
[17:47] <reisio> MonkeyDust: yeah that sounds righter
[17:47] <user_trying> bekks, no. i want just to learn about depends of one application
[17:47] <raven_> thunderbird: importexporttools only exports up to 14 messages every try - any idea/solution?
[17:47] <reisio> Eagleman: you can talk to #linux about generic backup stuff, bigger audience
[17:47] <MonkeyDust> user_trying  apt-cache depends [package]
[17:47] <Eagleman> reisio: The duplicity package also includes the rdiffdir utility. Rdiffdir is an extension of librsync's rdiff to directories---it can be used to produce signatures and deltas of directories as well as regular files. These signatures and deltas are in GNU tar format.
[17:48] <bekks> user_trying: Then run "ldd `which gufw`" to see the dependencies.
[17:48] <subz3r0> T31337: try this: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=7528
[17:48] <reisio> Eagleman: okay, so what's the problem?
[17:48] <user_trying> bekks, monkeydust thank you
[17:48] <user_trying> i will try it
[17:48] <Eagleman> reisio, the big size of the incremental backup
[17:49] <linuxuz3r> can you install wayland on 12.04
[17:50] <seydar> I've got a VPS, and I can only access it through ssh. How can I reinstall Ubuntu on it?
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> linuxuz3r  must be possible, but i guess MIR is the future for ubuntu
[17:50] <Eagleman> seydar, use the control pannel from your vps provider
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> linuxuz3r  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Wayland
[17:51] <linuxuz3r> MonkeyDust, what is mir
[17:51] <bekks> seydar: How do you want to access it anyways?
[17:51] <Eagleman> reisio, this is the problem: http://hpaste.org/90015
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> linuxuz3r  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/
[17:51] <T31337> thanks for the link will now reboot to test
[17:51] <seydar> Eagleman: I didn't see any option for it, so I sent them a ticket on it. I'm just checking other ways.
[17:52] <bekks> seydar: There are no other sane ways. :)
[17:53] <user_trying> monkeydust apt-cache depend [packages] is success,thx
[17:53] <seydar> bekks: hmm... I should have guessed.
[17:53] <user_trying> bekks but for ldd file is not success
[17:54] <user_trying> bekks is it must with file path?
[17:54] <bekks> user_trying: yes.
[17:54] <user_trying> thx , will try it now,
[17:54] <reisio> Eagleman: what is?
[17:55] <seydar> bekks: I've got some fantasy where I run some command and then the computer goes away and then it comes online and has sshd running
[17:55] <Eagleman> reisio, seen the size of the diff files?
[17:55] <thelionroars> anyone know what's going on here? http://askubuntu.com/questions/308940/cant-access-my-raring-installation-after-adding-a-quantal-install/308946?noredirect=1#308946
[17:56] <user_trying> bekks, when i try >> ldd -v /usr/bin/gufw     , result is : not a dynamic executable
[17:56] <reisio> Eagleman: what about it?
[17:58] <Eagleman> reisio, only a few MB's changed between the full and incremental backup, but the incremental backup is a few GB's of size
[17:58] <reisio> Eagleman: sounds like you should use rdiff-backup :p
[17:59] <Eagleman> reisio, http://duplicity.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup.html
[18:00] <Sazpaimon_> is it possible to make ubuntu install the grub files, kernel, initrd, etc in the efi system partition?
[18:00] <reisio> Eagleman: you don't say
[18:00] <Akuw> hi
[18:00] <reisio> Akuw: hi
[18:00] <Akuw> i need conio.h and graphics.h to develop using gcc
[18:00] <Skymont> what do you think is a good Ubuntu firewall with a nice GUI?
[18:00] <Akuw> how can i get
[18:00] <Akuw> reisio: hi
[18:01] <IdleOne> !ufw
[18:01] <Eagleman> reisio, troll much?
[18:01] <reisio> nah
[18:01] <reisio> Akuw: ask apt-file
[18:02] <Skymont> IdleOne, do you recommend others?
[18:02] <IdleOne> Skymont: nope
[18:02] <Skymont> IdleOne, is that built in lubuntu also?
[18:03] <IdleOne> Skymont: yes
[18:03] <user_trying> bekks, when i try >> ldd -v /usr/bin/gufw     , result is : not a dynamic executable
[18:04] <trism> Akuw: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8792317/why-cant-i-find-conio-h-on-linux
[18:07] <NedMan74> Used terminal to install a program, then ubuntu wouldnt load up... missing folders... needed to reinstall fresh... lost all files and personal settings... now having flash problems eurgh
[18:07] <daftykins> NedMan74: is there a question in and amongst that? :)
[18:08] <NedMan74> sorry lol... flash based browser game... wont load up..
[18:08] <daftykins> NedMan74: what happens? empty box where it should be?
[18:08] <NedMan74> used firefox and chromium
[18:08] <Skymont> IdleOne, is gufw built-in also?
[18:08] <nurvxx> how to set up android kitchen for samsung phones ?
[18:09] <daftykins> nurvxx: that's more off-topic talk than ubuntu support
[18:09] <Eagleman> nurvxx, we dont cook and do android here
[18:09] <nurvxx> ok
[18:09] <IdleOne> Skymont: you may need to install gufw
[18:10] <Punk5n07d34d> hi
[18:10] <daz646> tu
[18:10] <johnross> hi
[18:11] <daftykins> NedMan74: have you installed the free or non-free flash player?
[18:11] <Guest4509> Hey guys I need a bit of advice, hoping someone can help me.
[18:11] <daftykins> Guest4509: ask away
[18:11] <Guest4509> Thanks!
[18:11] <daftykins> Guest4509: on a single line if possible :)
[18:11] <Guest4509> I just installed all of the studio apps for ubuntu
[18:11] <Araneidae> I'm finding the old "mouse sticks at the edge of the screen" problem is back, this is playing Bioshock.  Ring any bells with anyone?
[18:11] <NedMan74> dafty. the flashplayer in software centre
[18:11] <Guest4509> namely i am concerned with the audio production apps
[18:11] <Guest4509> lots of them
[18:11] <Araneidae> I'm running wine-1.5.31 on xubuntu 13.04
[18:11] <daftykins> NedMan74: can you go back to it and confirm its' exact name?
[18:12] <NedMan74> 1 sec
[18:12] <daftykins> !wine | Araneidae
[18:12] <johnross> can anyone help me on installing wine from terminal?
[18:12] <Guest4509> In studio these were organized nicly by what was a mixer and recording andsound generator, effects.... I would very much like to create a system to organize these by
[18:12] <daftykins> Araneidae: my bad, i think they have a channel #winehq
[18:12] <NedMan74> Adobe flash plugin
[18:12] <Guest4509> but i am clueless as a way to go about it.
[18:12] <Araneidae> oops, sorry, wrong channel!
[18:12] <IdleOne> johnross: sudo apt-get install wine
[18:12] <Araneidae> Thought it was a bit lively for #winehq!
[18:12] <daftykins> Araneidae: XD
[18:13] <johnross> thanks
[18:13] <user_trying> if we wine , is it safe for our linux if exe file is infected by virus?
[18:13] <user_trying> if we use wine , is it safe for our linux if exe file is infected by virus?
[18:13] <Guest4509> I'd be fine with icons in folders, or a list with the commands to open each... but ive not clue how to figure out how to open each of these apps to create that list - or how to create shortcut ions to all of them to organize in folders
[18:13] <Guest4509> ah sorry about that, usually do, i wil be sure to from now on.
[18:13] <daftykins> user_trying: depends what that virus does. probably is the answer, but ask in #winehq
[18:14] <johnross> any hacker here?
[18:14] <Punk5n07d34d> i'm kind of struggling to get my camera to display the image correctly for example on camorama it's upside down i've read about a workaround for skype is there a way to fix this permanently for every app?
[18:14] <johnross> yo any backtrack user here?
[18:14] <IdleOne> !backtrack
[18:14] <daftykins> NedMan74: hrmm that sounds like the right one, does it show the package name is 'flashplugin-installer' ?
[18:14] <user_trying> daftykins, thx.
[18:15] <NedMan74> daftykins yes.. installer
[18:15] <amarsaini> not able to start STARTUP  disk creator on 11.04
[18:15] <amarsaini> want ti install 12.04
[18:15] <johnross> well any hacker here? wanna link up wid them
[18:15] <user_trying> johnross for what?
[18:15] <M4d3L> after add a script into /etc/init.d/ how I run it at each start?
[18:15] <daftykins> NedMan74: hrmm, definitely the right one then. you could try reinstalling it whilst all browsers are closed, although that one will only apply to firefox and not chromium
[18:15] <johnross> to combine ideas
[18:15] <Guest4509> My issue is fairly simple.  After installing the UbuntuStudio apps in full on Ubuntu, I find myself in need of a way to organize them.  Audio is my concern.  On Studio they were arranged by  Sound Generators, Mixers Effects and than the recording wares... I'd be fine making a list and organizing  them this way but I do not know how to figure out the commands to open each of these apps to do so.... or, a folder with shortcut icons
[18:15] <Guest4509> would work - no concern either way, just that I am unsure of how to accomplish either.
[18:16] <IdleOne> johnross: We don't support cracking, I assume that is what you mean.
[18:16] <amarsaini> Startup Disk Creator.
[18:16] <daftykins> johnross: this channel has nothing to do with backtrack.
[18:16] <johnross> yeah cracking
[18:16] <IdleOne> johnross: not in this channel.
[18:16] <johnross> i hear ya
[18:17] <user_trying> it must be ethical hacker
[18:17] <johnross> yeah ethical hacking
[18:18] <user_trying> i'm not hacker
[18:18] <OerHeks> Is there an Ubuntu-fake-PAE to install on an Intel Pentium M ? like this one for lubuntu >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE
[18:18] <johnross> i am one though
[18:18] <daftykins> Guest4509: oh so you want one clickable link to run several programs at once?
[18:18] <Guest4509> no, no - although that sounds intreaguing for some things, but first things first...
[18:18] <johnross> curretly working on some cool ubuntu exploits
[18:18] <Guest4509> I just installed a LOT of stuff, for audio
[18:19] <Guest4509> from Studio
[18:19] <daftykins> johnross: i somehow doubt that
[18:19] <johnross> oh u think so ha
[18:19] <IdleOne> johnross: This is an ubuntu support channel. We don't support or condone any sort of exploits. Please take the chit chat elsewhere
[18:20] <Guest4509> I want to organize these things either in a folder with shortcut icons to EACH app - OR - in a file by name - with the command to open each one - so - for the folder option, I just need to see how to make these links - or - for the list option - i need to know how to find out the command to open each of these apps... which, isnt listed in the software center descriptions.
[18:20] <johnross> yo idleone or whatever am jux making conversation
[18:20] <johnross> whats your problem
[18:20] <IdleOne> johnross: this isn't the channel for conversation.
[18:20] <IdleOne> we have #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[18:20] <johnross> yo set ya ass somwhere
[18:21] <daftykins> Guest4509: 'sudo updatedb' then 'locate <appname>' might give you a binary name for such programs
[18:21] <Guest4509> ok let me try this, thanks for the info, brb
[18:22] <Guest4509> i got nothing from that.
[18:22] <daftykins> Guest4509: it depends on what you type for the program name really
[18:24] <LeChacal> hello all, I have a daemon that isn't starting automatically. I noticed that in the rc folders that the script for starting the daemon always starts with a K and i can't remember what the K means verses the S. I thought K meant don't run. Is this ture?
[18:26] <jrib> LeChacal: « man update-rc.d » though I urge you to give more details since a lot of services uses upstart scripts now instead of sysv init
[18:26] <jrib> style scripts
[18:28] <jrib> LeChacal: if you do verify that your service is indeed still using an old sysv-init style init script, use "sysv-rc-conf" to manipulate when it starts and stops instead of using update-rc.d directly. The man page for update-rc.d does have the details you asked about though
[18:28] <LeChacal> jrib: I am trying to get tt-rss running, in its config file there is an option for enabling daemon and I have it set, when rebooting the service never starts I have to issue "service tt-rss start"
[18:33] <sere> can i please get a few ipinions with syncing/backing up notes.. i have been using tomboy and dropbox but thinking there might be a more logical way of doing this
[18:34] <Asad2005> I am having this error in evolution "This address book cannot be opened" can someone please help, the evolution folder was copied from my old home folder
[18:34] <sere> and if i could sync tomboy and freemind or something else with freemind would be a plus
[18:36] <andi__> Hi
[18:36] <Asad2005> It is giving this as a sulution "Please check that the path /home/user/.local/share/evolution/addressbook/system-address-book exists and that permissions are set to access it"
[18:36] <andi__> whats up?
[18:36] <andi__> :-)
[18:37] <daftykins> Asad2005: ok sounds like you need to adjust permissions on that folder
[18:37] <Asad2005> i haved chown -R user folder name but still same
[18:37] <daftykins> Asad2005: can you pastebin 'ls -al ~/' ?
[18:38] <netlar> So is Mir going to be the default display server for 14.04?
[18:38] <daftykins> Asad2005: or just check each folder's permissions to be sure they have your username and also read+write permissions
[18:38] <Skymont> IdleOne, does ufw show a live activity log
[18:38] <IdleOne> Skymont: I don't use it, not sure
[18:40] <Asad2005> daftykins: you mean the evolution folder in local/share
[18:41] <daftykins> Asad2005: not for my pastebin request no, but yeah the entire folder tree beneath ~ you need to check yeah
[18:45] <indieswag> hello?
[18:45] <Asad2005> daftykins: only this in my home folder different "drwxr-xr-x  8 root root   4096 Jun 15 14:40 ..
[18:45] <daftykins> indieswag: yes we're alive
[18:45] <Asad2005> the two dots folder
[18:45] <indieswag> does anyone here know how to get windows 7 for free?
[18:45] <daftykins> Asad2005: yeah that's gonna break things. chown your entire /home/user/
[18:46] <gordonjcp> Asad2005: that means "the directory above"
[18:46] <kostkon> indieswag, wrong channel
[18:46] <M4d3L> load average: 0.16, 0.45, 6.82  what mean the last load average value?
[18:46] <indieswag> then what channel should i be in -.-
[18:46] <gordonjcp> daftykins: Asad2005 "directory", not "folder" ;-)
[18:46] <gordonjcp> indieswag: ##windows maybe?
[18:47] <indieswag> fuck if i know, alright. later
[18:47] <Asad2005> gordonjcp: do youmean it is normal to have root permission ?
[18:47] <gordonjcp> indieswag: there are various trial editions of Windows that run for some amount of time
[18:47] <gordonjcp> Asad2005: yes
[18:47] <daftykins> gordonjcp: potato... tomato...
[18:48] <gordonjcp> Asad2005: without going into the deep guts of how Unix filesystems work, "." refers to "this directory" and ".." refers to "the parent directory"
[18:48] <Asad2005> so its not a permission issue
[18:48] <gordonjcp> Asad2005: so right you've got /home/asad/Desktop for example
[18:49] <Asad2005> What files do i need to remove from evolution folder in order to start with new addressbook
[18:52] <Asad2005> I think the evolution folder is located in more than one place ~.config/evolution and ~/.local/share/evolution and maybe someother places
[18:53] <Asad2005> but at least i checked the permition of the above two locations
[18:53] <sere> Asad2005: more than likely its the ~/.local/share/evolution you need to change
[18:54] <husnainlatif> i need to add Zend Studio to the Dash, how do i do that?
[18:54] <Slart> M4d3L: those numbers are just the average load for different time ranges.. it's something like 1 minute, 10 minutes, 30 minutes ... although the exact numbers are just guesses.. check the manpage for uptime for more info
[18:54] <M4d3L> load average: 19.91, 7.22, 3.71  how I can know what is going on on my server?
[18:55] <Slart> M4d3L: check top/htop , sort by cpu %
[18:55] <M4d3L> in top, the cpu is at 4% and memory usage is at 3%
[18:55] <Slart> M4d3L: I'm not sure if there is a difference if you run top as root
[18:56] <DexterF> when creatign a raid5, is it normal that at first one disk is disabled? mdstat says [UUUUU_], I think on creation all disks should be aboard?
[18:58] <Slart> M4d3L: it's possible that you have some processes waiting for disk i/o as well.. I think those are counted in the system load as well
[18:59] <M4d3L> is there a way to check disk error or something because writing to disk is very slow
[18:59] <Slart> M4d3L: try fsck
[19:00] <Slart> M4d3L: if it's the root partition you might want to do it at boot up
[19:00] <M4d3L> I only have a ssh connection
[19:01] <M4d3L> my host say the disk are fine! but I am sure it is not and they play me.
[19:01] <M4d3L> a simple php script that normaly run in 0.1 seconde take more than 30 second to run on the apache server.
[19:02] <Slart> M4d3L: well.. you might be able to run fsck in read only mode.. just to see what it says.. check the man page for that but make sure you know what you're doing first, running a fsck on a live system is a bad thing
[19:02] <peckhamspring> that doesn't sound like a good idea
[19:05] <tux_> help
[19:06] <savio> hello all
[19:06] <SonikkuAmerica> !help tux_
[19:06] <SonikkuAmerica> !help |tux_
[19:06] <Asad2005> gordonjcp: i have killed evolution then renamed ~/.local/share/evolutio/addressbook folder and then restarted evolution with out error
[19:07] <Asad2005> Thanks to all
[19:09] <FDMLTD> Hello everyone!!
[19:09] <FDMLTD> Happy Fathers Day to all you dads out there.
[19:11] <Saiki> ok,everyone is going to love this question: Is there any way to downclock my CPU inside ubuntu?
[19:11] <FDMLTD> I have no idea. I just installed it and I'm getting used to it.
[19:12] <FDMLTD> I love it.
[19:12] <FDMLTD> I wiped out my Win8 and replaced it with Zion Linux
[19:12] <FDMLTD> Zorin rather.
[19:13] <Slart> Saiki: there are some powersaving features you can use from ubuntu but I haven't seen anything that will replace the options you have in your BIOS settings
[19:13] <FDMLTD> It took me a while to figure some things out.
[19:13] <DJones> FDMLTD: Thats great, but be aware that this channel is for Ubuntu support, Zorin have their own discussion channels
[19:13] <FDMLTD> Yuppers.
[19:13] <M4d3L> anyone know a good tech support company to fix server on ubuntu and proxmox?
[19:14] <Asad2005> How can i install skype amd64?
[19:14] <DoverMo> Asad2005, download the .deb from skypes website, then open it with ooboots software center
[19:16] <Slart> Asad2005: I think there is a deb either from the skype site or from one of the repos
[19:16] <Saiki> Slart:it just needs to do that while ubuntu is on, cause the fan on the laptop is bad so I want to downclock the CPU some
[19:17] <Asad2005> DoverMo: on skype.com there is 32bit and mutliarch but no 64bit to be specific. Which one to chose
[19:17] <DJones> !skype | Asad2005
[19:17] <Slart> Saiki: depending on what kind of laptop it is you might use difference tools.. cpu frequency scaling is what you're looking for but there are several tools.. some work on some models, others work on others
[19:18] <DoverMo> Asad2005, there is no 64bit skype avaliable. so you either choose the 32bit
[19:18] <husnainlatif> skype is buggy on ubuntu, it keeps running in the bg when you close it and doesn't even display notifications
[19:18] <Slart> Saiki: have a look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerManagement
[19:18] <Slart> Saiki: or wait.. that was an old page
[19:19] <DoverMo> husnainlatif, that sounds more like an OS problem
[19:19] <husnainlatif> how'd i know if it's a OS problem?
[19:19] <husnainlatif> i'm new to ubuntu
[19:19] <Slart> Saiki: this looks better https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower
[19:20] <Slart> Saiki: what you're trying to do is to make the cpu use the lowest frequency it can use.. that setting is usually called something like "power saving" as compared to "performance" or "balanced"
[19:21] <Saiki> Slart: yea, where is that in ubuntu?
[19:21] <daftykins> Saiki: have you confirmed that the processor is clocking itself down?
[19:22] <Saiki> daftykins: I am TRYING to downclock it
[19:22] <daftykins> Saiki: right but have you seen if it is downclocking based on load already?
[19:22] <Saiki> daftykins: and how would I do that?
[19:23] <daftykins> Saiki: watch -n 0.1 'grep -i mhz /proc/cpuinfo'
[19:23] <gordonjcp> bah, 40 minute ADSL outage
[19:23] <gordonjcp> that's it, I'm going back to 3G-only
[19:25] <Saiki> daftykins "mhz no such file or directory"
[19:25] <daftykins> Saiki: sure you typed it right?
[19:27] <Saiki> daftykins: yes
[19:27] <lapsa> im experiencing frequent crasy of ubuntu 13.04. here's a crash log from /var/crash. can anyone point me in right direction? what's happening? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=fZfBmH2P
[19:27] <Saiki> daftykins: unless that is an L and not an I
[19:27] <daftykins> Saiki: works perfectly here. lower case 'i'
[19:28] <Saiki> daftykins: bah.. ok, my l aand i look similar on ym screen
[19:29] <Saiki> daftykins: cpu mhz : 1866.725
[19:30] <daftykins> Saiki: ok so depending on load you should see it change
[19:30] <Saiki> daftykins: I want to throttle tha down to like 1024.00 mhz or so
[19:31] <daftykins> what processor type is it?
[19:31] <Saiki> daftykins: I have no load on it
[19:31] <Saiki> daftykins: that is 1.86mhz, it's max speed
[19:31] <Saiki> its*
[19:31] <daftykins> GHz
[19:31] <Saiki> daftykins: you know what I meant lol  it's a celeron M
[19:31] <daftykins> is the idea to preserve battery life?
[19:32] <Saiki> daftykins: http://panam.acer.com/acerpanam/notebook/0000/Acer/Aspire3680/Aspire3680sp2.shtml
[19:33] <Saiki> daftykins: no, the idea is to throttle it down so it doesn't run so hot
[19:33] <ZING> hello
[19:33] <Saiki> daftykins: the fan on the laptop is bad
[19:33] <ZING> has anyone tried out the new voice recognition software
[19:33] <daftykins> Saiki: sounds more like you need to disassemble it and clean out the dust
[19:34] <Saiki> daftykins: I did clean it out
[19:34] <Saiki> daftykins: I used a can of compressed air right into the cpu fan, it got completely clean
[19:34] <daftykins> Saiki: oh? was it like: http://imgur.com/I0S4eQx,fltsuLc,wxXYnh9,EMgCl0k,EbNTLJZ,BT8Gssv,Z3WI3n6,JqEf3c0#4
[19:34] <daftykins> you can't really do this with compressed air ;)
[19:34] <ZING> 4/20 away
[19:34] <sere>  Zing no, whats it called?
[19:35] <Saiki> daftykins: nope, it was nowhere near that bad
[19:35] <sere> Saiki: what temp are you running at
[19:36] <Saiki> sere: how can I check that?
[19:36] <ZING> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfrQrjH3AGw I am using it right now and have had it for 2 days and love it
[19:36] <ZING> I can control most of ubuntu with it and can even type what I say
[19:36] <daftykins> Saiki: i bet the real reason it's ramping up the fans is due to poor ACPI support, but i have no idea how to do anything with that
[19:36] <DoverMo> first time i built a computer, i put the heatsink on with stock paste, and it got up to 90+ C
[19:37] <ZING> Texas Station Road
[19:37] <ZING> opps^
[19:37] <DoverMo> ZING, brah, where's your app launcher D: ?
[19:37] <ZING> my what?
[19:37] <DoverMo> ZING, oh that's you i think
[19:38] <Saiki> daftykins: I don't think it has bad acpi support. the laptop is just 8 years old
[19:38] <DoverMo> not*
[19:38] <daftykins> Saiki: i mean the OS you installed isn't utilising the ACPI properly
[19:39] <DexterF> [==>..................]  recovery = 11.3% (332213828/2930264576) finish=2626.7min speed=16484K/sec  <- anyoen ideas how to speed this up? cpu is at 50%
[19:39] <sere> Saiki: psensors
[19:40] <Saiki> daftykins: it was doing it on win 7, win 8 and now xubuntu 12.04
[19:40] <daftykins> Saiki: if XP did it too, then i'd be concerned :>
[19:40] <Saiki> sere: in grep?
[19:40] <sere> ZING: pretty cool :)
[19:40] <Saiki> daftykins: um.. it did..
[19:41] <Saiki> daftykins: which is why I am trying to downclock it
[19:41] <sere> Saiki: no, run this command : sudo apt-get install psensors
[19:41] <Saiki> sere: ah..
[19:41] <Skymont> firestarter is a good program, why is it no longer being maintained?
[19:41] <daftykins> Saiki: maybe we speak different languages, nm
[19:42] <daftykins> Skymont: they're waiting for you to start work on it i expect
[19:42] <DoverMo> Skymont, you could go compile it on debian and maintain it
[19:42] <Saiki> sere: uable to find
[19:42] <Saiki> sere: unable to find *
[19:42] <Saiki> daftykins: Now you have confused me..
[19:42] <sere> Saiki: psensor.. sorry
[19:43] <Saiki> sere: no worries, it hapens
[19:44] <Saiki> sere: 47C
[19:46] <sere> Saiki: you should be ok with that.. im at 55c
[19:46] <Saiki> sere: putting a load goes from 46-48
[19:47] <sere> Saiki: is it a mini?
[19:47] <Saiki> sere: I'd still like to downclock the CPU some, save power and lessen the fan
[19:47] <Saiki> sere: mini?
[19:47] <sere> netbook
[19:47] <Saiki> sere: http://panam.acer.com/acerpanam/notebook/0000/Acer/Aspire3680/Aspire3680sp2.shtml
[19:49] <armin> while it's pretty nice that unity displays tweets in notification popups when connected to the twitter account: any way to configure this? possible to show that it actually was a twitter tweet that was causing the popup would also be nice.
[19:50] <wYnn3> exit
[19:50] <jacklk> !fi | nha
[19:51] <sere> Saiki: try this : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=884934
[19:51] <jacklk> !se | PeterEH
[19:51] <jacklk> !no | sere
[19:51] <nha> I think you intended to pipe that somewhere else.. my Finnish isn't that good
[19:51] <jacklk> nha, where are you from?
[19:51] <sere> jacklk: what
[19:52] <jacklk> !ot | sere
[19:52] <Biomechd> hey guys, i'm trying to install lmms but the "install" file says to use cmake for part of the process. apparently i don't have cmake and apt-get can't find it.
[19:53] <sere> jacklk: and ??
[19:53] <jacklk> sere, keep it on topic please
[19:53] <jacklk> !ot | sere
[19:53] <modernbob> Biomechd: apt-get install cmake
[19:53] <Guest27312> hy. is there a program for xubuntu that showes the coputer info! i don't know if my video driver is installed.
[19:53] <[twisti]> hey, are there like virus scanners for linux or something of that sort ? i have received a complaint that supposedly a spambot is running on my server, but obviously i didnt install anything like that
[19:53] <[twisti]> any suggestions on how that could be tracked down ?
[19:54] <jacklk> ro ! [twisti]
[19:54] <Biomechd> modernbob: i tried that. it just says the package isn't available but is reffered to by another package, etc
[19:54] <Saiki> sere: I use xfce
[19:54] <jacklk> !ro | [twisti]
[19:54] <sere> jacklk: if you are going to use the bot i would appreciate it if you actaully pay attention.. anyone can pull a trigger
[19:54] <modernbob> Biomechd: what version ubuntu you running
[19:54] <Biomechd> then says "E: Package 'cmake' has no installation candidate"
[19:54] <[twisti]> !gulagurni | jacklk
[19:54] <sere> jacklk: i was on topic please dont interrupt me
[19:54] <[twisti]> dsfk hsdj newrwe
[19:54] <Biomechd> 12.10. i haven't migrated wubi yet.
[19:54] <[twisti]> is that just random gibberish ?
[19:55] <[twisti]> if its a language, i dont speak that
[19:55] <jacklk> !ee | [twisti]
[19:55] <modernbob> Biomechd: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+package/cmake
[19:55] <Saiki> sere: is there an xfce version of that?
[19:56] <[twisti]> jacklk: are you just spamming me with weird stuff ? im afraid i dont speak whatever language youre trying to communicate in
[19:56] <jacklk> Pici, sorry my dear darling.
[19:56] <jacklk> [twisti], do you need help or are you just here to troll?
[19:56] <[twisti]> i need help
[19:56] <[twisti]> but i dont speak whatever that was
[19:56] <[twisti]> if it was a language
[19:57] <[twisti]> so i dont know what youre trying to say
[19:57] <jacklk> [twisti], well, ask your question instead of being rude
[19:57] <jacklk> Romanian is a language
[19:58] <Biomechd> modernbob: do i want 0ubuntu4 or 0ubuntu1? they're a 2.8.7 and 2.8.9, respectively.
[19:58] <Saiki> [twisti]: if you have a spambot oon your server check for extra shell scripts
[19:58] <IdleOne> jacklk: Did they speak in Romanian? There was no need for you to spam them with the bot.
[19:58] <sere> Saiki: sorry i got interrupted, anyway you should be able to underclock it with cpufreq-info and cpufreq-selector utilities. They should allow you to change how the CPU frequency scaling happens.
[19:58] <modernbob> Biomechd: go with the highest version.. or newest...2.8.9
[19:58] <jacklk> IdleOne, are you KindOne?
[19:58] <MrKB> anyone here run into any problems with synergyc constantly crashing when you do Ctrl+T? -_-
[19:58] <IdleOne> jacklk: no.
[19:59] <[twisti]> jacklk: i did ask my question. do you want me to repeat it ? i didnt know that was rumanian, or why you talked to me in rumanian, sorry
[19:59] <Biomechd> alright, thanks.
[19:59] <sere> Saiki: i have never done it myself but it shows examples with link i gave you
[19:59] <amarsaini> not able to create bootable usb
[19:59] <amarsaini> can anybody help
[19:59] <jacklk> [twisti], repeat it
[19:59] <amarsaini> startup disk not working
[19:59] <LFS> MonkeyDust ubottu ... did you suck my dick or not yet?
 hey, are there like virus scanners for linux or something of that sort ? i have received a complaint that supposedly a spambot is running on my server, but obviously i didnt install anything like that
[19:59] <jacklk> and it is ROMANIAN not "rumanananani"
 any suggestions on how that could be tracked down ?
[19:59] <modernbob> amarsaini: install tuxboot
[20:00] <jack_ubntu> hello, folks!
[20:00] <jacklk> [twisti], you don't need a virus scanner in Linux
[20:00] <Saiki> [twisti]: it is a prblic web server?
[20:00] <Saiki> [twisti]: it is a public web server?
[20:00] <jack_ubntu> any FS experts out there?
[20:00] <[twisti]> it is
[20:00] <jacklk> jack_ubntu, yes
[20:00] <Saiki> [twisti]: pm me the url?
[20:01] <[twisti]> Saiki: done
[20:01] <jack_ubntu> hello
[20:01] <Saiki> [twisti]: saw it
[20:01] <jacklk> jack_ubntu, hello, just ask your question already
[20:02] <sere> twisted`: actaully linux can host windows a windows virus.. it may not effect you but if you are transferring stuff to others you can give them
[20:02] <jack_ubntu> oops, sorry!
[20:02] <jack_ubntu> i got issues with grub (grub rescue)
[20:02] <jack_ubntu> tried to fix it but in vain
[20:03] <jack_ubntu> then tried fsck from live usb
[20:03] <sere> twisted`: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus
[20:03] <Saiki> sere: neither package exists
[20:03] <jack_ubntu> as i recall i used fs type switch (i think ext3)
[20:03] <jack_ubntu> or was it ext 2 don't remember
[20:03] <jack_ubntu> it resulted in corruption of all the directories
[20:04] <jack_ubntu> now i have empty directories like home and so on...
[20:04] <[twisti]> sere: that seems mostly windows related
[20:04] <jack_ubntu> can i recover my data?
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> ! testdisk
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> jack_ubntu, Take a look at testdisk
[20:05] <jack_ubntu> already tried it, nothing recovered
[20:06] <sere> [twisti]: it is. it explains why you would need one.. check out clamav
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> jack_ubntu, Not sure then, good backups always fix this.
[20:06] <[twisti]> i dont think i need one
[20:06] <Biomechd> modernbob: "dependency is not satisfiable: libxmlrpc-core-c3"
[20:07] <[twisti]> none of those cases apply
[20:07] <jack_ubntu> so should i run fsck again?
[20:08] <DJones> !recover | jack_ubntu
[20:08] <jack_ubntu> any other idea(s)
[20:08] <jack_ubntu> thanks a lot!
[20:09] <jack_ubntu> DJ, there is gratitude 4 ya!
[20:09] <jack_ubntu> but i did not delete anything!
[20:10] <DJones> jack_ubntu: I've no idea if any of them will work, but you may get some return with one of the suggestions
[20:10] <jack_ubntu> i mean tried to fix fs (foolishly)
[20:10] <jack_ubntu> let me explain again
[20:10] <[Gentoo]> jack_ubntu: what type of data are you trying to recover?
[20:10] <jack_ubntu> i took my hd out of my puter (laptop) and connected it as a usb storage
[20:11] <jack_ubntu> i suppose problem was inintiated due to this
[20:11] <jacklk> jack_ubntu, oh god
[20:11] <jacklk> it might fail complely now :(
[20:12] <MJaoune> hi guys
[20:12] <jack_ubntu> there were some warnings (as i can recall something abt hda parameter)
[20:12] <MJaoune> is there a way i can install ubuntu minimal with wubi?
[20:12] <Saiki> jack_ubntu: are you using an external enclosure for that hard drive?
[20:12] <MJaoune> i dont like desktop environments
[20:12] <daftykins> MJaoune: nah, also WUBI has been retired
[20:12] <MJaoune> plus they take much space
[20:12] <jack_ubntu> then grub rescue upon boot showed up
[20:12] <[Gentoo]> MJaoune: might as well use a vm
[20:12] <Saiki> MJaoune: install a server on a virtual machine then?
[20:13] <jack_ubntu> yah, but afterwards i put it back into my notebook
[20:13] <jack_ubntu> tried best to get out of grub rescue without luck
[20:13] <jack_ubntu> and finally ran fsck from live usb
[20:14] <MJaoune> my cpu doesnt support virtualization
[20:14] <jack_ubntu> in interactive mode
[20:14] <Saiki> sere: neither cpufreq package exists..
[20:14] <MJaoune> i cant use a VM
[20:14] <MJaoune> can i?
[20:14] <[Gentoo]> why not
[20:14] <[Gentoo]> install virtualbox on windows
[20:14] <[Gentoo]> and install ubuntu minimal on it
[20:15] <MJaoune> does virtualbox need a CPU with VT-x or VT support?
[20:15] <jack_ubntu> changed all the inodes as were recommended by fsck
[20:15] <MJaoune> i got an old CPU
[20:15] <[Gentoo]> try it
[20:15] <jack_ubntu> now have empty directories
[20:15] <Saiki> sere: found them, diferent name on 12.04 aparently
[20:15] <savr> what is the apt command to show package recommend's/
[20:15] <[Gentoo]> MJaoune: if not you could dual boot on a seperate partition it would be cleaner
[20:15] <jack_ubntu> however, filesystem is full (both linux partitions i destroyed )
[20:16] <Saiki> MJaoune: what cpu?
[20:16] <[Gentoo]> or seperate drive would be better
[20:16] <MJaoune> Intel Pentium 4 650, I want to use this pc for programming
[20:16] <MJaoune> i still need Windows though
[20:16] <sere> Saiki: ahh ok .. sorry about that got alittle busy. but yah that should be able to help you out
[20:16] <Saiki> MJaoune: that will run a virtual machine
[20:17] <[Gentoo]> MJaoune: looks like that dont support vt so might not work
[20:18] <[Gentoo]> i would rater dual boot though with an older cpu
[20:18] <Saiki> MJaoune: do not msg me.. use query if you absolutely MUST..
[20:18] <keegznop> is there small tools to write uml in ubuntu?
[20:19] <Biomechd> okay, soooo i'm trying to use the "universe" source from the software center and when i click "use this source" it just does something for a few seconds, then gives me the "use this source" button again and won't let me install cmake from the software center.
[20:19] <Biomechd> i'm using ubuntu 12.10.
[20:19] <Biomechd> so far the alternative seems to be manually downloading all the dependencies myself.
[20:20] <keegznop> and any flowchart tool ubuntu (small size)?
[20:20] <Saiki> MJaoune For a typical host system, we recommend that you have a 1 GHz or faster processor (2GHz recommended) and 1GB RAM minimum (2GB RAM recommended). You must have enough memory to run the host operating system, plus the memory required for each guest operating system and for applications on the host and guest. See your guest operating system and application documentation for their memory requirements. VMware Player require
[20:22] <trainerdad_> hello
[20:22] <trainerdad_> I have an Ubuntu One question.
[20:22] <savr> what is the apt command to show package recommend's??
[20:23] <JoseAntonioR> trainerdad_: mint is not supported here :)
[20:23] <DJones> trainerdad_: Probably best if you ask it in #ubuntuone thats the main support channel for that
[20:23] <AndreasEr> How can i change let's say the firefox icon to only run with optirun instead of going to the terminal?
[20:23] <trainerdad_> ok  thanks
[20:24] <savr> apt-get cache show
[20:24] <keegznop> and any flowchart tool ubuntu (small size)?
[20:25] <Guest82317> hello
[20:25] <BigWig_> anybody experience with network booting using bootp and tftp-hpa?
[20:25] <lshkn> hi all, i create ext2 fs in file and mounted it in loop device with - mount ... -o loop=/dev/loop0. But when i want to umount this, i get "/dev/loop0 no such file or directory". Why?)
[20:29] <bekks> lshkn: You dont need to use loop= ... -- you can just use loop
[20:29] <BigWig_> What does this mean : start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.42" (uid=1000 pid=2606 comm="start tftpd-hpa ") interface="com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.Job" member="Start" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="com.ubuntu.Upstart" (uid=0 pid=1 comm="/sbin/init")
[20:33] <lshkn> bekks: thanks, there is no error message any more) But why i can't use loop=... ?
[20:34] <bekks> lshkn: Because -o loop is sufficient.
[20:34] <Mack10> does anyone know about GNUnet?
[20:34] <bekks> !anyone | Mack10
[20:35] <lshkn> bekks: okay, tnx)
[20:36] <Saiki> sere: cpufreq kernel modules failed
[20:38] <MyNickIsLongerTh> I'm trying to get grub2 working properly on an external USB hard drive.  I've installed Ubuntu raring onto the drive from within an ubuntu VM, using Debootstrap, but I don't seem to be able to get grub2 to point to the correct location for booting.  The configuration is shown here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5772031/ .
[20:38] <nathan_1> hello
[20:40] <Biomechd> this is what i get when i try to run "cmake ../" for the build process of lmms: http://www.pasteall.org/43220
[20:40] <rohit> I deleted a non boot partition using gparted live cd and now I am not able to boot into ubuntu. I gives me error "No Such Partition" and grub rescue> prompt.
[20:41] <rohit> Can anybody help me please
[20:41] <HelloWorld321> I have an encrypted home directory, and I'd like to run an anacron job to download data into it @weekly.  Will this be as simple as it sounds?  Will it be completely impossible?
[20:41] <bekks> HelloWorld321: As long as the user is loggged on - yes.
[20:43] <HelloWorld321> bekks: so I need to put in a beefy delay in the anacron job settings, to give the user time to login?
[20:43] <HelloWorld321> anacron waits for the system to power on, but it doesn't wait for the user to login?
[20:48] <bekks> jack_ubntu: There is no need to contact me outside this channel.
[20:50] <jack_ubntu> bekks, thanks.
[20:50] <wN> haha
[20:50] <jack_ubntu> hello all, is any FS guru out there?
[20:51] <wN> jack_ubntu: fs? file-system? which file-system?
[20:51] <jack_ubntu> EXT4
[20:51] <wN> jack_ubntu: what do you need to know?
[20:51] <jack_ubntu> abt data recovery after grub recue errors
[20:52] <jack_ubntu> (unknown fs type)
[20:52] <wN> jack_ubntu: usually that occurs because the file-system superblock has been damaged. when creating the file-system, several of these superblocks are created. you can attempt to mount, or fsck, with a backup superblock.
[20:52] <jack_ubntu> as a last resort, ran fsck.ext3............
[20:52] <xclusive585> hello, on a server with two network interface cards: how packets can be leaving from IP xxx.xxx.x.111 when they are coming only from the interface with IP xxx.xxx.x.222?
[20:53] <jack_ubntu> the directories are back but empty!!!
[20:53] <wN> jack_ubntu: that means that your data was damaged and the machine wasn't able to make sense of it on disk. you'll probably find (some of) it in lost+found on the root of the file-system
[20:53] <jack_ubntu> i ran fsck from live usb and fixed all the errors as it recommended
[20:54] <Biomechd> could someone look at this and tell me how to fix it? http://www.pasteall.org/43220
[20:54] <narcos> Hi all. Any idea why lsmod would list mo modules?
[20:54] <wN> Biomechd: it looks like you're missing some qt libraries
[20:54] <wN> narcos: mo modules?
[20:54] <jack_ubntu> wN, it (the grub rescue) problem started in my opinion when i took the hd out and tried to boot from it as a usb disk
[20:55] <narcos> wN: Zero.
[20:55] <narcos> wN: And it's odd, because it was working fine 20 mins ago
[20:55] <Biomechd> wN: okay, and which ones do i need? i'm trying to install lmms and i need cmake for the build process.
[20:55] <wN> narcos:        lsmod is a trivial program which nicely formats the contents of the /proc/modules. is that file empty?
[20:55] <rohit> I deleted a non boot partition using gparted live cd and now I am not able to boot into ubuntu. I gives me error "No Such Partition" and grub rescue> prompt. Can anybody help me pls?
[20:56] <jack_ubntu> wN, seems that I run fsck ext3 on ext4 partitions
[20:56] <wN> jack_ubntu: was this your boot disk? grub is intalled to the header of your boot disk.
[20:56] <jack_ubntu> resulting in corruption of data?
[20:56] <wN> jack_ubntu: yeah, im not sure what kind of problem's that'd cause. i would hope that there would be logic in the program to detect that it was not ext3, but who knows.
[20:56] <narcos> wN: it is empty
[20:56] <jack_ubntu> yea, it was my boot disk (had ubuntu 12.xx & linux mint on different partitions)
[20:56] <wN> narcos: then thats why lsmod shows nothing. :) heh
[20:57] <jack_ubntu> however, my new drive with ubuntu 13.0x did boot as usb storage
[20:57] <wN> jack_ubntu: im not sure if there is any recovery after running the fsck. it modifies the data on disk.
[20:57] <narcos> wN: Why would that file be empty...?
[20:57] <jack_ubntu> wN, thanks for the help!
[20:58] <wN> narcos: uncertain. :s
[20:58] <rohit> wN: what should I do to fix my problem?
[20:58] <jack_ubntu> wN, my linux partitions are almost full (as they were before all this)
[20:58] <jack_ubntu> what does it signify? is data still there?
[21:00] <wN> jack_ubntu: yes. probably under lost+found
[21:00] <jack_ubntu> you mean in root of both corrupted partitions?
[21:01] <jack_ubntu> wN, lemme see!
[21:01] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[21:01] <ShapeShifter499> now with all this NSA stuff I'd like to use something ran locally like VNC instead of teamviewer or splashtop on linux. However vnc is slow and I have yet to find a faster alternative that would allow remote control access from a iPhone or Android device. Any ideas?
[21:03] <HelloWorld321> isn't there a command like "once" that you can use to run a script once per day?
[21:04] <Saiki> ok, so I installed the xfce goodies and the libs, but I can't control my CPU's speed, how do I do that?
[21:10] <bekks> jack_ubntu: Check wether you can find your file in /lost+found -- if not, restore your backup.
[21:11] <jack_ubntu> bekks, no lost+ found directory on either of partitions
[21:12] <jack_ubntu> in fact one partition (contains nothing)
[21:12] <bekks> jack_ubntu: then you did not run fsck, since that would have (re)created that directory.
[21:12] <jack_ubntu> bekks, restore backup inodes?
[21:12] <bekks> jack_ubntu: No. Restore entire backup from backup device on your shelf :)
[21:13] <jack_ubntu> i did, one partition (which had ubuntu 12.xx) has directories
[21:13] <jack_ubntu> in fact i ran ext3.fsk from live usb
[21:13] <jack_ubntu> or was it fsck.ext3?
[21:14] <jack_ubntu> bekks, i Y'd all the recommendations
[21:15] <jack_ubntu> no backup!! the backup disk fell of and is clicking!!!!
[21:15] <HelloWorld321> as per: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16160/execute-bash-script-at-startup-but-only-once-a-day
[21:15] <HelloWorld321> As Ubuntu uses Anacron by default, you already have this behaviour by putting the script into /etc/cron.daily. Check run-parts --test /etc/cron.daily to check if your script is picked up (importantly, no .sh extension and the +x bit set). See this wiki page and man anacron for more detailed information about why this will work for you.
[21:16] <jack_ubntu> bekks, my both partitions are almost full as before corruption, so data is burried somwehre deep in the devices :)
[21:16] <HelloWorld321> so I've copied the script to /etc/cron.daily, set the ugo+x; and removed the .sh extension; run-parts --test /etc/cron.daily shows it in the list.   Is it good to go?  I'll log that user out, log him back in, and see if the script runs?
[21:18] <jack_ubntu> bekks, one more thing
[21:19] <jack_ubntu> should i make an image of the corrupted partitions and try something else on these?
[21:20] <Rohit> After deleting a non boot partition from gparted live cd, I am unable to boot into ubuntu. I get error "No Such Partition" with grub rescue prompt. Can anybody help me pls?
[21:20] <malimbar> How would I mark a self-made .desktop file as trusted?
[21:21] <malimbar> Rohit, which partition did you delete?
[21:21] <jack_ubntu> gonite, all!
[21:21] <Rohit> malimbar: I think it was /dev/sda5
[21:21] <Rohit> My boot partition was swap one
[21:22] <Rohit> and os was installed on /dev/sda7
[21:22] <malimbar> hmmm, are you able to boot form a CD still?
[21:22] <budtuba> Hello, I need help triaging no sound with my Audigy2 card. I had sound working when ubuntu was first installed, but now either nothing or very low sound.
[21:23] <malimbar> Disclaimer is that I don't know what I'm doing, but the first thing I would try is to install and run boot-repair
[21:23] <Rohit> malimar, I had a old ubuntu CD and I am here from that only
[21:23] <malimbar> Rohit, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair might help I'm guessing
[21:23] <BigWig> I got it to work! I just reinstalled the tftp server
[21:23] <budtuba> Could someone help me to determine if I need to file  a bug report?
[21:23] <Slart> budtuba: have you checked your alsamixer settings?
[21:23] <BigWig> If only I would have known that was the problem earlier, so much time..
[21:24] <malimbar> Rohit, assumign you still have the MBR and bootable primary partition
[21:24] <BigWig> How long does the server need to run? Once the installer is loaded can I turn of the server?
[21:24] <Rohit> malimbar: Thanks. I will try it out. Yes boot partition shd be there. I only deleted extended non boot
[21:24] <budtuba> Slart: Yes, I've maxed all channels in alsamixer, but nothing's changed.
[21:25] <malimbar> Rohit, hope it helps. If not, you still got others here :)
[21:25] <rhizome> howdy. what's a faster method for copying the files from one large drive to another? file manager (thunar) is caught up on "Collecting files..."
[21:25] <rhizome> cp -r ?
[21:26] <malimbar> rhizome, that's what I would try
[21:27] <rhizome> i doubt rsync would be much faster for raw copies
[21:27] <malimbar> I thought rsync was for keeping things in sync
[21:28] <budtuba> My sound card goes through an old pc sound amplifer system, PCWorks FourPointSurround, which works fine when I boot into windows xp.
[21:28] <Slart> budtuba: you're running pulseaudio as well?
[21:28] <malimbar> but if you're just flat out copying, cp shoudl work
[21:28] <rhizome> sure. but you can use it for an initial sync, too
[21:28] <rhizome> of directories
[21:30] <budtuba> Slart: I think so. I can find Pulseaudio controls through the dash. I'm not certain that Pulseaudio is necessarily working correctly.
[21:30] <malimbar> so does anyone know how to mark a file as trusted? trying to test a .desktop file I created but it says I cna't
[21:30] <rhizome> malimbar: what do you mean?
[21:30] <mauro> 17061956
[21:31] <budtuba> Slart: I'll try these commands I found to produce a verbose Pulseaudio log
[21:31] <Slart> budtuba: you can try installing the pavucontrol package, that's the stand-alone volume controller for pulseaudio
[21:32] <malimbar> rhizome, when I click on a self-made .desktop file, I get a popup that says "Untrusted application launcher: The application launcher 'Dwarf.desktop' has not been marked as trusted. If you do not know the source of the file, launching it may be unsafe.", and I'm only given the option to cancel
[21:32] <madel> Anyone using the Simon speech-to-text application? I have it only spit out a complaint about shadow dictionaries and scenarios and I wonder if I'm missing some necessary software components...
[21:33] <rhizome> malimbar: is it executable?
[21:33] <budtuba> slart: when I enter pavucontrol in the dash, a window appears, "Volume Control"
[21:33] <malimbar> rhizome, as a launcher for an executable
[21:33] <Guest71701> salve
[21:33] <rhizome> malimbar: no, i mean the .desktop file has to have +x permissions
[21:33] <malimbar> rhizome, well, a launcher for a shell script for an executable
[21:34] <malimbar> rhizome, ah, thanks. That works
[21:34] <rhizome> either go through file properties and check/set them there, or chmod 755 on the file from terminal
[21:34] <malimbar> rhizome, Now I can figure out how to make it work :)
[21:34] <rhizome> cool :)
[21:34] <DoverMo> rhizome, 0755 D:
[21:35] <SonikkuAmerica> DoverMo: 0755 == 755
[21:35] <budtuba> Slart: in pavucontrol, Mono volume is at 50% and my output devices are at 100%. Could I have the wrong sound profile selected?
[21:39] <rhizome> what will make this fstab entry read-only? /dev/sda1 /media/media ext3 nosuid,nodev 0 0
[21:41] <Skymont> is ubuntu encrypted by default?
[21:41] <Guest11146> hello !
[21:41] <malimbar> Skymont, not by default
[21:42] <Slart> budtuba: sorry, was occupied elsewhere.. so, volume seems ok.. on one of the tabs there are settings for stereo duplex, mono and so on
[21:42] <malimbar> Skymont, but you can set it up that way on install
[21:42] <Skymont> malimbar, why not?
[21:42] <budtuba> Slart: right.
[21:42] <Slart> budtuba: if you play audio through something, do you see the little bar moving in the pulseuadio window? does anything show up in the playing tab?
[21:42] <Slart> budtuba: sorry, the "playback" tab
[21:43] <ivymike> println("salut");
[21:44] <budtuba> Slart: Yes! I see a grey bar moving when I run this aplay command in a terminal
[21:46] <Slart> budtuba: but you don't hear anything? or you can hear something but very quiet?
[21:46] <budtuba> Slart: I have two ports to choose from on Output Devices, and I see the bar move but I hear nothing with either of them.
[21:47] <budtuba> Slart: no, I don't hear even a faint sound.  Though earlier tonight I thought I did..
[21:47] <Slart> budtuba: and you're sure your alsa-mixer settings are correct? both the volume bars but also all the settings which can be turned on and off like "digital out" and such
[21:49] <budtuba> Slart: I've raised all the levels in alsamixer to the red zone, of those with bars, and unmuted the on/off ones.
[21:50] <Eagleman> salsamixer?
[21:50] <wN> salsa++
[21:50] <wN> extra marinara please
[21:51] <Slart> budtuba: and the configuration tab looks good.. try regular stereo without duplex and then try other things
[21:51] <Slart> budtuba: and it was an Audigy 2 soundcard?
[21:52] <budtuba> Slart: would I change that in this PulseAudio volume Control window?
[21:52] <budtuba> Slart: That's correct.
[21:53] <Skymont> is it true that our unencrypted data can be easily accessed from our phone? Can the upcoming Ubuntu mobile version prevent this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVCROjpgCB0
[21:54] <Slart> Skymont: try asking in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:55] <Slart> budtuba: yes, you can change that in the volume control app
[21:55] <budtuba> Slart:  I see a Configuration tab for multiple profiles. Are you suggesting I experiment changing the profile?
[21:55] <Slart> budtuba: I think I had an audigy 2 soundcard before.. it used to work nicely
[21:56] <Slart> budtuba: give it a try.. in the worst case your sound card keeps on not working =)
[21:56] <budtuba> Slart: I'm on Analog Stereo Duplex atm.. I'll start with Analog Stereo Output and go down the list.
[21:56] <murcipilot> hi, are there any other dvd authoring programs than dvdstyler and bombono?
[21:57] <jhutchins_wk> murcipilot: Yes.
[21:57] <jhutchins_wk> murcipilot: You're talking about creating video DVDs, right?
[21:57] <murcipilot> y
[21:57] <jhutchins_wk> There's a package called tovid.
[21:58] <Slart> murcipilot: there's devede as well.. I've used that one a couple of occasions
[21:58] <murcipilot> I've used it but it encoded only 1 out of three I added
[21:58] <budtuba> Slart: I'm on Analog Stereo Duplex atm.. I'll start with Analog Stereo Output and go down the list.
[21:59] <Slart> budtuba: do that
[21:59] <Slart> budtuba: you might want to stop/start the audio playing app between changing profiles
[21:59] <murcipilot> I'm relatively new to ubuntu
[21:59] <budtuba> Slart: pardon me, I chose the wrong window to repeat my command in, there.
[21:59] <murcipilot> I used ConvertXtoDVD in windoze
[22:00] <jhutchins_wk> murcipilot: dvdauthor, mandvd, others
[22:00] <ricks> well if i wasnt using linux i would be hanging from a tree
[22:01] <ricks> thank god the smart ass people have given me this operation system
[22:01] <murcipilot> Am trying to evaluate the idea of keeping ubuntu and ditching windoze for good, everything is pay out, pay out and pay out!
[22:01] <ricks> now i can watch porn without a play button
[22:01] <ricks> im so grateful
[22:01] <kostkon> murcipilot, also check devede
[22:02] <ricks> well you cant say that windows sucks
[22:02] <ricks> that would be utterly arrogant and shit too
[22:02] <ricks> open your minds
[22:02] <ricks> the world is not flat
[22:02] <budtuba> Slart: it's just aplay, it runs for a few seconds then stops.
[22:02] <ricks> you cannot just sit on your linux bleached asses and wait for the apocalypse to come
[22:02] <ricks> windows is gonna catch up
[22:03] <murcipilot> It's all about personal choice
[22:03] <ricks> well what kind of personal choice do you have if you limit yourself to linux
[22:03] <ricks> windows is a mighty fine piece of gear
[22:03] <ss_haze> ricks, go #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:03] <ricks> it has all the tools you need to satisfy a personal computer user
[22:03] <murcipilot> no doubt it is
[22:04] <ss_haze> then stay with it, and stfu from tech supported channel
[22:04] <ricks> yes but why do you have to crush it always
[22:04] <ivymike> but it isn't free
[22:04] <ricks> well it is free for me
[22:04] <ricks> because my mom works in an office
[22:04] <budtuba> Slart: I haven't had any luck with these profiles. Should I file a bug now, or just a problem report?
[22:05] <ss_haze> budtuba ubuntu-bug <application name> If I remmeber right
[22:05] <ricks> once i was using ubuntu and the file manager totally bugged out, same with the audio services
[22:05] <ricks> they are totally mediocre and you have to set up the stuff 5 hours before using it
[22:06] <murcipilot> I tried to find mandvd in software centre, no such file :(
[22:06] <murcipilot> synaptic perhaps?
[22:06] <ricks> i cannot always make JACK connections before playing with a noobish software
[22:06] <ss_haze> ricks, what is your actuall problem?
[22:06] <ricks> i just hate the arrogance of linux users
[22:06] <ricks> they never support you when you have a problem
[22:07] <Slart> budtuba: I would start with writing a post in the ubuntu forums.. there are many smart people out there and someone might have a solution.. but you can also report a bug.. I'm assuming the ubuntu people want the system to work out-of-the-box which it doesn't for you
[22:07] <ss_haze> then you hate yourself, so shut the f*** up
[22:07] <ricks> i wont shut up
[22:07] <ricks> linux people have told me to do so in the past
[22:07] <ricks> i have to stand up for my words
[22:07] <murcipilot> It's not arrogance it's choice
[22:07] <budtuba> ss_haze: oh, I actually did use ubuntu-bug -s audio earlier. But would I learn if there was a response from using that command?
[22:07] <ss_haze> you can express yourself on offtopic channel
[22:07] <ricks> which choice man
[22:07] <Slart> ricks: did you have a ubuntu support question or you're just ranting? there's is a channel where you won't get kicked for that you know.. #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:07] <ricks> its like an apple and a nutsack
[22:07] <ricks> im not even ranting OMG
[22:08] <ricks> is writing too much for the poor souls in here
[22:08] <ricks> i cannot believe it
[22:08] <murcipilot> chill lad
[22:08] <Noskcaj> !enter | ricks
[22:08] <ricks> youre reading 10000000 lines of code and cannot even read mine
[22:08] <ricks> what the hell is wrong with you, are you going robotic now
[22:08] <kostkon> ricks, this is a support channel. there is another channels for discussions
[22:09] <ricks> but i want to talk to you guys, the core of the system
[22:09] <budtuba> Slart: my father who installed it told me it did work at first, but it since stopped. I don't know what changes to the system had occurred since then.
[22:09] <Noskcaj> ricks, most of us are in -offtopic too
[22:09] <usr13> ricks: This is not the core of anything, it's just the support channel.
[22:09] <kostkon> ricks, we are not the core, just regulars users helping each other. now head to #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:09] <ricks> but what an accusation to declare my words as offtopic
[22:09] <Slart> budtuba: might have been an update or something else.. if it was me I would start with a forum-post and after that a bug-report but the choice is yours
[22:09] <ricks> maybe there is something BIG happening right NOW
[22:09] <kostkon> !ops | ricks is trolling
[22:09] <ivymike> what is the difference between putting"eclipse" and "./eclipse" for instance into the terminal ?
[22:10] <budtuba> Slart: I'm trying to encourage him to seek help from the community rather than just reinstalling.
[22:10] <murcipilot> No mandvd in synaptic as well..:(
[22:10] <ricks> kostkon
[22:10] <k1l> ricks: keep this channel clear for technical support please
[22:10] <ricks> why would you say that to me
[22:10] <ricks> i need some technical support right now
[22:10] <kingwiZard> bonjour a tous , je suis sur ubuntu depuis 2 semaines. J'aimerais gagner de la memoire dans mon pc en suprimmant ce qui reste de windows , la manipulation a faire est vraiment compliquer , quelqu'un d'expérimenté pourrais m'aider?
[22:10] <Noskcaj> ricks, leave before the ops get here
[22:10] <Myrtti> ricks: did You Have a support question?
[22:10] <budtuba> Slart: so post on the forum first, sounds good. Thanks!
[22:10] <Eagleman> haha sure you do
[22:10] <jhutchins_wk> !fr
[22:10] <ricks> my jack audio server doesnt respond i set the package size to 32
[22:10] <Slart> ivymike: "eclipse" runs the system app called eclipse, "./eclipse" runs the file eclipse from whatever directory you're currently in
[22:11] <Slart> budtuba: hope you get it figured out
[22:11] <kingwiZard>  /join #ubuntu-qc
[22:11] <ricks> i just wanna run fucking fruity loops on my ubuntu lap
[22:11] <ricks> why isnt it working ffs
[22:11] <usr13> ricks: /join #jack
[22:12] <Slart> ivymike: the idea is that commands you run without the ./ should be system stuff ie things you can't change as a regular user.. if you write something like gedit you don't want to run the file that happens to be in your current folder that's called gedit.. so if you really want to run the local file you have to add ./ in front of it
[22:12] <armin> hm, i have some kind of strange problem with the normal unity terminal and irssi: when switching to a tab that has an irssi session running, it will take about 2 seconds or so until the display is proper (hard to describe what's actually going on there), but ONLY if that window is maximized, otherwise everything is okay. anyone else experiencing this?
[22:12] <ivymike> Thank you Slart, but why though when I try something like for instance ./opt/lampp/bin/mysql it doesn't work, it doesn't make sense
[22:12] <ss_haze> armin, try other terminal
[22:12] <jhutchins_wk> !doesn't work
[22:12] <Slart> ivymike:  the  dot means the current folder.. so ./opt could be /home/Slart/opt  if that's where I am no
[22:12] <armin> ss_haze: hm. no?
[22:12] <Slart> ivymike: try just /opt/  that way you're starting at root
[22:13] <ss_haze> then suffer from effects armin
[22:13] <keegznop> why 4+4=8?
[22:13] <ivymike> i think i've got it, ty
[22:13] <armin> ss_haze: i'm rather trying to find the bug than live with it.
[22:13] <keegznop> why 4+4=8  ?
[22:13] <k1l> keegznop: ##math or somewhere else
[22:14] <ss_haze> why earth is round >
[22:15] <keegznop> but it is in ubuntu terminal ,code that typed
[22:16] <malimbar> (probably not the best place to ask bu tpointers are nice) I'm trying to create a launcher.desktop file that has the option to also launch something via unity shortcut via the terminal. Is there a way to make it so just the shortcut opens a terminal? Using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles#Adding_shortcuts_to_a_launcher , and adding a terminal=true tag below it doesn't seem to work
[22:16] <keegznop> when i type in terminal 4+4=8, why the background is black?
[22:16] <ivymike> bc 4+4
[22:16] <Noskcaj> keegznop, what are you talking about?
[22:17] <keegznop> about why uts changed?
[22:17] <keegznop> about why its changed?
[22:17] <keegznop> in bash
[22:17] <k1l> keegznop: stop this. keep this channel clear for real ubuntu support. thanks
[22:18] <ss_haze> one beer, two beer, twinkle winkle
[22:18] <ss_haze> keegznop
[22:18] <keegznop> but it is in bash ubuntu?,when i use echo
[22:18] <sere> Anyone have any explerience backing up notes, preferrably with tomboy, with andriod would be a plus..
[22:19] <sere> oops wait
[22:19] <Slart> malimbar: I've never managed to get that to work.. but you can  run gnome-terminal with a switch to make it run your command there.. that might be easier
[22:20] <malimbar> Slart, like "gnome-terminal /home/foo/app" ?
[22:21] <sere> sorry lost my paste.. looking for a few ipionions on syncing notes whats everyone using to sync notes and possible freemind if possible
[22:21] <Java_Jer> I have a ? about amd radeon driver
[22:21] <Java_Jer> the catalyst center isn't working correctly saying my amd driver is not installed
[22:21] <malimbar> Slart, nvm, figured it out with man page. "gnome-terminal -e /directiry/to/app
[22:22] <keegznop> sorry, why i'm kicked from channel?
[22:23] <sere> Java_Jer: have you installed drivers?
[22:23] <malimbar> woo!
[22:23] <Slart> malimbar: yes, that's it
[22:23] <Java_Jer> sere - I tried but it says no properitary drivers are in use
[22:23] <Java_Jer> so I can't find the drivers for amd radeon 3000
[22:25] <teamcoltra> Hey ubuntuers -- I am trying to install the latest Ubuntu onto my Macbook Air -- I have followed all the instructions, and I seem to have it installed, however, when I hold alt when booting -- it doesn't show anything in the boot menu.
[22:25] <murcipilot> I've downloaded a tarball of 2mandvd and extracted it, what do I do now.
[22:25] <budtuba> I've been trying to recover my password for the ubuntu forums, but I get the message "You have not entered an email address we recognize." But I can't contact the forum administrator because I can't login. What can I do?
[22:25] <Ari-Yang> Java_Jer, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[22:25] <Ari-Yang> and http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/Pages/index.aspx
[22:25] <sere> Java_Jer: i believe you need to install the fglrx driver
[22:25] <sere> ^^
[22:26] <Ari-Yang> Java_Jer, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Installing_upstream_drivers_directly_from_AMD.27s_website start reading from there
[22:26] <kostkon> murcipilot, avoid doing that, if you aren't able to find it in the software centre, then try devede
[22:26] <Ari-Yang> and I warn you, flgrx driver is horrible, Java_Jer
[22:26] <Ari-Yang> I tried it, caused nothing but tearing and glitches
[22:26] <murcipilot> ooer
[22:26] <Ari-Yang> feel free to try it yourself though
[22:26] <murcipilot> no tanks I'll take yur word matey ;)
[22:27] <Java_Jer> So it looks like Nvidia is better compatible with Ubuntu, Linux
[22:28] <Ari-Yang> Java_Jer, you /could/ say that, but kernel 3.9 gave radeon/ati/amd driver more attention, I heard it's better
[22:28] <Java_Jer> Ari-Yang - I have ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[22:28] <sevencipher> prob cuz linus hates nvidia
[22:28] <Java_Jer> just installed it today
[22:28] <Java_Jer> switched from Mint to Ubuntu 12.04
[22:29] <Ari-Yang> Java_Jer, ah. why you want proprietary though?
[22:29] <murcipilot> my problem is' I add 3 avi's around 500meg and then I chose the menu, then click the forward button, it only encodes 1 of the avi files?!
[22:29] <sere> Java_Jer: nvidia has great compatibility, however i have had no problems with the drivers from the repo and my ati.. runs steam and high quality movies as smooth as butter
[22:29] <Ari-Yang> sere you're on desktop? or laptop?
[22:29] <Java_Jer> The reason is that I wanted to get better driver is because my netflix desktop movie is bit well... clear yes but photo still have some kind of torn images
[22:30] <Java_Jer> when motion happens the video show some cuts
[22:30] <sere> Ari-Yang: laptop
[22:30] <Ari-Yang> Java_Jer, yeah, that's video tearing
[22:30] <Java_Jer> I'm on ASUS essentio series desktop
[22:30] <murcipilot> I use a gtx8800 nvidia and ubuntu loves it!
[22:30] <Java_Jer> use AMD radeon
[22:30] <Ari-Yang> I myself got minor tearing when I was on cinnamon, switched to E17 and no tearing at all
[22:30] <Ari-Yang> Java_Jer, possibly compiz's fault on your end?
[22:30] <Java_Jer> I was on cinnamon as well
[22:30] <Ari-Yang> if mint uses that
[22:30] <Java_Jer> wasn't happy
[22:31] <Ari-Yang> well, no problem on E17 over here
[22:31] <Java_Jer> nice GUI and stuff, yes but update messed up
[22:31] <Ari-Yang> Java_Jer, well if you want, feel free to try fglrx driver
[22:31] <Ari-Yang> maybe you'll be more lucky than me, and be fine
[22:32] <ShapeShifter499> hi again
[22:32] <Ari-Yang> it's fairly easy installing the driver, took me 8min
[22:32] <ShapeShifter499> I set up iRedMail on a Ubuntu 13.04 box for my email server however port 25 is blocked by my ISP thus I cannot receive or send email from my server. I'm not sure if this is the main reason, I believe it is. I figured I could use a smart host to send email but as for receiving email I don't know. Anyone know how I would get around this?
[22:32] <James_Epp> I'm just going to say that ubottu is my bestest friend.
[22:32] <Ari-Yang> the bot?
[22:32] <Ari-Yang> lol ^
[22:32] <James_Epp> Ari-Yang: Yup :)
[22:33] <Ari-Yang> heh
[22:33] <James_Epp> I'm all like, hey bro "samba" and it's like, here's an article. And I'm like, sweet this is what I needed. It works now. Sexy.
[22:33] <Ari-Yang> I guess Java_Jer got fed up? or intimidated?
[22:33] <budtuba> my email address is budtuba@gmail.com, but the ubuntu forum says it can't recognize it when I try to resend my password. What recourse do I have?
[22:35] <BluesKaj> budtuba, not good to post personal account info here , there's no need to know your actual email address
[22:35] <budtuba> BluesKaj: oops, good point.
[22:35] <murcipilot> Eureka!!! I actually managed to rtfm lol Devede works brilliant, thanks guys!
[22:37] <budtuba> BluesKaj: figured it might help to confirm I wasn't entering gibberish, but the spambots don't need any more help.
[22:38] <BluesKaj> budtuba, have you changed ISPs lately , by any chance
[22:38] <NaN123> k
[22:38] <budtuba> BluesKaj: no
[22:39] <BluesKaj> or dns service , budtuba , sometimes gmail and forums balk at that
[22:40] <HelloWorld321> is the default lubuntu desktop ldxe?
[22:40] <k1l> HelloWorld321: yes
[22:40] <budtuba> BluesKaj: I don't think so. that wouldn't be a standard feature for pangolin, would it?
[22:40] <k1l> !lubuntu
[22:41] <HelloWorld321> k1l: tx
[22:42] <BluesKaj> budtuba, that really doesn't have much to do with the OS
[22:44] <James_Epp> I am doing a copy of my home folder daily to another location over the network using rsync. I want to exclude multiple directories. What switch should I use?
[22:45] <budtuba> BluesKaj: oh well my isp is time warner. Are you suggesting they could be messing with my dns without informing me?
[22:46] <teamcoltra> to be fair, you are probably using their dns by default
[22:46] <BluesKaj> budtuba, no, I mean have you changed your dns service yourself
[22:47] <teamcoltra> actually some ISPs (stupid ISPs) over-ride your DNS selection even if you change it yourself.  :P but I don't know what I am replying to, just inserting useless knoweldge
[22:47] <budtuba> BluesKaj: no, I don't think so.
[22:48] <BluesKaj> teamcoltra, some routers have the option of selecting a dns service other than the ISP automatic dns
[22:48] <armin> "The application Terminal has closed unexpectedly"
[22:48] <armin> meh
[22:50] <mtfnub> hello
[22:50] <budtuba> but how would my dns screw up a forum administration page anyway? I'm just trying to reset my password.
[22:50] <mac_> hy all.. i am running a linux 12.04 lts, and having trouble over swap (-has no autostart), launching programs and with original gnome 3 look (has a fallback)
[22:51] <mtfnub> if u run an established, illegal website that distributes copyrighted materials and rakes in $$$-$$$$ per month, what would be the best course of action to protect yourself from legal liability / consequences?
[22:51] <wheatthin> mtfnub, that's not a topic for here sorry
[22:52] <Magicarp> I'm using the 'hardware sensors indicator' and are trying to find the entry for the temp of my video card. What is it likley to be named?
[22:53] <budtuba> Is it possible to contact the Ubuntu Forum administrator outside of logging into the forum?  Maybe by email, or do they appear on IRC?
[22:54] <wheatthin> budtuba, You're having trouble logging into a forum?
[22:55] <budtuba> wheatthin: that's right, ubuntuforums.org.
[22:55] <IdleOne> budtuba: #ubuntuforums
[22:55] <budtuba> IdleOne: thanks so much!
[22:56] <valroadie> Anyone have a definitive answer on how to completely remove the notification bubbles in ubuntu 12.04?
[22:56] <wheatthin> budtuba, some times if you use tor proxy's, they'll be blocked
[22:57] <budtuba> wheatthin: nope, not using tor.
[22:57] <wheatthin> using a proxy?
[22:58] <BluesKaj> budtuba, I'm not exactly sure , but I had a hard time with gmail after setting up opendns on my router and resolv.conf
[22:58] <mojtaba> Hi, I am using libre office 4.0.2.2, ubuntu 13.04; It does not show me the wrong dictation of the words. Does anybody know what should I do to fix this problem?
[22:58] <mojtaba> It does not show the red line under the wrong words.
[22:58] <BluesKaj> anyway BBL
[23:00] <mac_> hy all.. i am running a linux 12.04 lts, and having trouble over swap (-has no autostart), launching programs and with original gnome 3 look (has a fallback)
[23:00] <trism> valroadie: if in unity, install notification-daemon, remove notify-osd, log out, back in
[23:00] <valroadie> mojtaba, make sure in the tools->options->Language settings->Writing aids it has a spell checker enabled
[23:00] <antoine__> hi all
[23:01] <valroadie> trism, not in unity I am using gnome
[23:01] <wheatthin> valroadie, gnome 3 or gnome classic?
[23:01] <valroadie> classic, sorry should have been more specific lol
[23:01] <trism> valroadie: same should work for gnome fallback, just disable notification-daemon from starting in xdg autostart
[23:02] <antoine__>  is there a way to install the last version of ubuntu from within an active gnome session ? (comp doesn't have a working CD reader nor can it boot on usb, but can still access the web)
[23:02] <mojtaba> valroadie: Check spelling as you type was marked.
[23:02] <valroadie> thanks trism, i'll see about that
[23:03] <valroadie> mojtaba, did you also check to see if it is using any dictionaries? Below where the  spell checker was in the options, it should have a place for dictionaries....though these come by default I just want to make sure
[23:04] <mojtaba> valroadie: everything was marked.
[23:04] <wheatthin> antoine__, are you using ubuntu already?
[23:05] <antoine__> wheatthin, well it's linux mint 11 but doesn't matter does it
[23:05] <valroadie> hmm...well mojtaba I would suggest uninstalling libre office, sudo apt-get remove --purge libreoffice
[23:05] <wheatthin> it does, cause I was suggesting doing a dist-upgrade
[23:06] <mojtaba> valroadie: And then how can I install it again?
[23:06] <antoine__> wheatthin, I'm on ubuntu right now but the comp i'm trying to fix is an old one from a friend
[23:06] <mojtaba> valroadie: Should I do something especial?
[23:06] <goddard> hi does the new system76 ultraPro fan sound loud when it is hot?
[23:07] <valroadie> sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove  Then install it using the software center or manually  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/
[23:07] <mojtaba> valroadie: How can I install the whole suite again?
[23:07] <valroadie> ^^ :)
[23:07] <valroadie> Hope that helps!
[23:07] <mojtaba> valroadie: I am a newbie. thanks.
[23:07] <valroadie> Np, good luck!
[23:08] <wheatthin> antoine__, I dunno.. I'd suggest buying a small usb flash drive, and then downloading the ubuntu iso, and image it over
[23:08] <James_Epp> I'm having some weird voodoo stuff going on. In any other application except nautilus, I can double-click perfectly. Opening folders requires right clicking on the directory and clicking "Open"
[23:09] <antoine__> wheatthin, that was the first thing I tried but the bios of this old piece of computer doesn't allow to boot from usb
[23:11] <wheatthin> antoine__, have an extra hd laying around?
[23:11] <antoine__> wheatthin, yes i do
[23:12] <Duality> hi
[23:12] <wheatthin> antoine__, I'd install it on your computer (or the one you're working on) and image it that way
[23:12] <Duality> I am running ubuntu server and can't connect to my website al of a sudden, could someone help me troubleshoot it ?
[23:12] <wheatthin> antoine__, then boot from that hard drive
[23:13] <antoine__> wheatthin,  hum yes that could do the trick
[23:13] <antoine__> well thank you for the hint, thats gonna be my next move
[23:13] <wheatthin> yup
[23:14] <Rave1> antoin
[23:15] <Rave1> antoine          does that old computer by chance have a floppy drive
[23:15] <HuggieBear> i have a question about changing and disabling  the  keyring and passphrase  because im having trouble with my openPGP key signing the coc inside the terminal.  ive already tried deleting them out and redoing them but the keyring wont cooperate.
[23:15] <antoine__> Rave1, let me check
[23:15] <mojtaba> valroadie: I used autoremove and I think it uninstalled nemo, and now all of my desktop items are not showing! Do you know what should I do?
[23:15] <antoine__> Rave1, nop
[23:16] <mac_> hy all.. i am running a linux 12.04 lts, and having trouble over swap (-has no autostart), launching programs and with original gnome 3 look (has a fallback)
[23:16] <Rave1> OK   so my suggestion wouldnt help
[23:16] <antoine__> anyway where can I buy floppy disk nowadays ;)
[23:16] <HuggieBear> goodwill
[23:16] <HuggieBear> :)
[23:17] <pong> request one on craigslist $2
[23:17] <Rave1> antointe_       yes hard to find             i just happen to still have some
[23:17] <mac_> i got one at home :)
[23:17] <valroadie> mojtaba, you put nemo as your default file manager? What distro of ubuntu are you using?
[23:17] <wheatthin> mac_, have a swap partition ?
[23:17] <mac_> yes
[23:18] <HuggieBear> i have a question about changing and disabling  the  keyring and passphrase  because im having trouble with my openPGP key signing the coc inside the terminal.  ive already tried deleting them out and redoing them but the keyring wont cooperate.
[23:18] <antoine__> pong, mac_  thanks guys but I'm in france ... :)
[23:18] <mojtaba> valroadie: I am using ubuntu 13.04, but I have installed cinammon, KDE, GNOME to see how are these look like.
[23:18] <wheatthin> mac_, and it's not mounting with swapon?
[23:19] <mac_> yes
[23:19] <wheatthin> yes it is or yes it's not?
[23:19] <mojtaba> valroadie: When I shutting down my computer or turn it on, it shows Kubuntu. Do you know how can I revert it back to ubuntu?
[23:19] <mac_> also.. gnome 3 aint working correctly, so i cant activate it myself by gpart
[23:20] <mojtaba> valroadie: I do not know how I have changed it before! :(
[23:20] <wheatthin> use the terminal, and type sudo swapon
[23:20] <mac_> can u please prvt msg me
[23:20] <teamcoltra> mojtaba - apt-get purge kubuntu && apt-get install ubuntu
[23:20] <teamcoltra> it might be kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop
[23:20] <valroadie> mojtaba, oh my haha well....you have a bunch of things on there that are probably conflicting with each other. To be honest I do not know why it uninstalled nemo if you told it to specifically libreoffice hmm...mojtaba calm down! lol what you need to do is choose what you want to use...only to make this simpler
[23:21] <mojtaba> I like unity and cinammon
[23:21] <mojtaba> :)
[23:21] <HuggieBear> i have a question about changing and disabling  the  keyring and passphrase  because im having trouble with my openPGP key signing the coc inside the terminal.  ive already tried deleting them out and redoing them but the keyring wont cooperate. any help would be greatly appreciated
[23:21] <valroadie> ok, well then you need to remove the gnome desktop...which do you like better cinnamon or unity? You can have both but I am just asking
[23:22] <mojtaba> valroadie: I have downloaded "LibreOffice_4.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz", do you know how can I install libreoffice using this file?
[23:22] <mojtaba> valroadie: I prefer to have both.
[23:22] <mojtaba> valroadie: I just want to get rid of KDE
[23:23] <valroadie> mojtaba: ok...sudo apt-get remove akonadi-backend-mysql akonadi-server akregator amarok amarok-common amarok-utils apport-kde apturl-kde ark bluedevil cdparanoia cdrdao docbook-xsl dolphin dragonplayer freespacenotifier gnupg-agent gnupg2 gpgsm gstreamer0.10-qapt gtk2-engines-oxygen gwenview ibus-qt4 icoutils jockey-kde k3b k3b-data kaccessible kaddressbook kamera kate kate-data katepart...
[23:23] <valroadie> ...kcalc kde-baseapps-bin kde-baseapps-data kde-config-gtk kde-config-touchpad kde-runtime kde-runtime-data kde-wallpapers-default kde-window-manager kde-workspace kde-workspace-bin kde-workspace-data kde-workspace-kgreet-plugins kde-zeroconf kdebase-runtime kdegames-card-data kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdenetwork-filesharing kd
[23:23] <FloodBot1> valroadie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:24] <valroadie> here mojtaba http://paste.ubuntu.com/5772480/
[23:24] <valroadie> paste that into your terminal
[23:25] <valroadie> not the link but whats in the pastebin xD
[23:25] <mojtaba> valroadie: Are you sure it will work. :O
[23:25] <valroadie> I can't believe it didn't copy my pastebin link lol yes mojtaba it will completely remove KDE
[23:26] <mojtaba> valroadie: By the way, do you know how can I install libreoffice using that file?
[23:26] <valroadie> mojtaba: yes give me a sec
[23:27] <linuxnewb> hey guys im looking for some help wiht my ubuntu installation
[23:28] <linuxnewb> ive searched the web, but i haven't been able to find an answer thus far
[23:28] <k1l> !details | linuxnewb
[23:28] <linuxnewb> Ubuntu 12.04
[23:28] <linuxnewb> last night i installed the latest drivers from nvidia
[23:29] <linuxnewb> now i cannot boot or boot into failsafe graphics mode
[23:29] <k1l> linuxnewb: drivers from the homepage?
[23:29] <linuxnewb> yes
[23:29] <Tectonic> Does anyone have a recommendation for good laptop hardware to run Ubuntu?  Something light and a couple years old so it's cheap.
[23:29] <Duality_> hmm
[23:29] <linuxnewb> i tried moving xorg.conf to xorg.conf.old so it would use the default settings
[23:29] <Duality_> a router reboot fixed it
[23:29] <k1l> linuxnewb: that was already a mistake. the ubuntu way is to stick to the drivers shipped with the official repos
[23:30] <linuxnewb> yeah it was working fine with the drivers before
[23:30] <linuxnewb> i just thought it would be good to be up to date, but i realize that was a bad idea
[23:30] <HuggieBear> ubuntu 13.04 i have a question about changing and disabling  the  keyring and passphrase  because im having trouble with my openPGP key signing the coc inside the terminal.  ive already tried deleting them out and redoing them but the keyring wont cooperate. any help would be greatly appreciated
[23:30] <k1l> linuxnewb: uninstall the driver and go with the oficiall one
[23:31] <linuxnewb> kk i have to chroot the drive right?
[23:31] <k1l> linuxnewb: failsafe textmode should work, too
[23:31] <linuxnewb> im already in the live cd so id rather do it from in here
[23:32] <linuxnewb> its already mounted too
[23:32] <linuxnewb> which is nice
[23:32] <valroadie> mojtaba: open a terminal and type this in:  cd Downloads  THEN you will need to extract it:  tar -xvzf LibreOffice_4.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb.tar.gz  THEN you will need to install it:  cd LibreOffice_4.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS    THEN    sudo dpkg -i *.deb  THEN  cd desktop-integration  THEN  sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[23:36] <linuxnewb> hhmmmm
[23:36] <linuxnewb> its giving me permission denied when i try to chroot
[23:36] <linuxnewb> its giving me permission denied when i try to chrootsudo chroot /media/8aaf4d8e-a6c6-48d6-b376-cb20884c3a1c /mnt
[23:38] <mojtaba> valroadie: The last command generates this: dpkg: regarding libreoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0.3-3_all.deb containing libreoffice-debian-menus:
[23:38] <mojtaba>  libreoffice-core conflicts with libreoffice-unbundled
[23:38] <mojtaba>   libreoffice-debian-menus provides libreoffice-unbundled and is to be installed.
[23:38] <mojtaba> dpkg: error processing libreoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0.3-3_all.deb (--install):
[23:38] <mojtaba>  conflicting packages - not installing libreoffice-debian-menus
[23:38] <mojtaba> Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:38] <FloodBot1> mojtaba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:38] <mojtaba>  libreoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0.3-3_all.deb
[23:38] <luigi69> Hello.
[23:41] <linuxnewb> can anyone tell me what is wrong with this?
[23:41] <linuxnewb> its giving me permission denied when i try to chrootsudo chroot /media/8aaf4d8e-a6c6-48d6-b376-cb20884c3a1c /mntsudo chroot /media/8aaf4d8e-a6c6-48d6-b376-cb20884c3a1c chroot
[23:41] <linuxnewb> sudo chroot /media/8aaf4d8e-a6c6-48d6-b376-cb20884c3a1c chroot
[23:41] <linuxnewb> my bad
[23:41] <sere> linuxnewb: what exactly are you trying to do by chrooting that drive
[23:42] <linuxnewb> so i can uninstall a graphics driver
[23:42] <linuxnewb> im booted into a live cd
[23:42] <linuxnewb> trying to fix my actual installation which is on that drive
[23:42] <mojtaba> valroadie: Are you there? could you please check the error?
[23:42] <valroadie> mojtaba: yes I am here had to log out, could you post it again?
[23:42] <sere> linuxnewb: dont do that.. check your package you downloaded and somehwere there should be an uninstall script
[23:43] <sere> linuxnewb: then just simply sudo that script
[23:43] <mojtaba> 07:38:00 PM - mojtaba: valroadie: The last command generates this: dpkg: regarding libreoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0.3-3_all.deb containing libreoffice-debian-menus:
[23:43] <mojtaba> 07:38:00 PM - mojtaba: libreoffice-core conflicts with libreoffice-unbundled
[23:43] <mojtaba> 07:38:00 PM - mojtaba: libreoffice-debian-menus provides libreoffice-unbundled and is to be installed.
[23:43] <mojtaba> 07:38:00 PM - mojtaba: dpkg: error processing libreoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0.3-3_all.deb (--install):
[23:43] <mojtaba> 07:38:00 PM - mojtaba: conflicting packages - not installing libreoffice-debian-menus
[23:43] <FloodBot1> mojtaba: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:43] <mojtaba> 07:38:00 PM - mojtaba: Errors were encountered while processing:
[23:43] <mojtaba> 07:38:00 PM - mojtaba: libreoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0.3-3_all.deb
[23:43] <k1l> !paste | mojtaba
[23:43] <valroadie> mojtaba: next time use this: paste.ubuntu.com  hah
[23:43] <linuxnewb> @sere I am using sudo, also I can't just run an uninstall script because I'm booted to a Live CD.  I can't boot into my reuglar installation reguarly or in failsafe graphics mode.
[23:45] <Greygan> linuxnewb: boot to terminal in the affected load. then run the script
[23:45] <linuxnewb> how do i boot to terminal
[23:45] <mojtaba> valroadie: I opened a document and again it is not showing the errors. :(
[23:45] <linuxnewb> i can't ctrl + alt + f1
[23:45] <linuxnewb> it freezes before that point
[23:45] <Greygan> at the grub menu
[23:46] <valroadie> mojtaba: well shoot man...I have no idea further than that :( make a thread on the forums and see if someone can help you out! :)
[23:47] <mojtaba> valroadie: I do not know how to do that, can you give me the forum's URL?
[23:47] <valroadie> mojtaba: ubuntuforums.org
[23:52] <sere> texas gun laws
[23:52] <sere> oops sorry :x
[23:53] <linds6630> hey, i just installed gnome-shell on ubuntu 12.10 and rebooted and my usb isn't working? i tried rebooting a couple times, unplugged and replugged, used all my ports. dmesg shows no activity.. any suggestions?
[23:55] <wheatthin> mac_,  welcome back
[23:56] <brmnty8967> hi
[23:56] <mac__> back
[23:57] <linds6630> hrm never seen so little activity in here
[23:58] <valroadie> must be a sign that ubuntu is getting easier to use ;)