=== marco is now known as Guest93466 [05:01] Zequence: Hey man, you helped me the other day figure out a way to get the features of UbuntuStudio for Ubuntu - one of the things you told me was I needed to be a member of audio group and gave me this type put in terminal: sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER - when I did, it spat this back at me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769898/ .... now, my question is - what do I do here... I was uncertain if the Username/account was [05:01] automatically created or if I needed to choose something from the options listed. [05:01] Anyone who might know something about that, I'd really appreciate it! :) [05:07] I'm stuck sitting in terminal waiting to make my move [05:20] Try replacing the $user with your user [05:21] Guest93466: Say if your user id was joe then: [05:21] i did that [05:21] my name on my computer i used [05:21] sudo usermod -a -G audio joe [05:21] Ok [05:22] yeah, yeah, thats how i did it [05:22] got those options from the paste. link [05:22] You were answering faster than I typed sorry [05:22] just was not sure if that completed the process [05:22] if i was good to go w/ that step. [05:22] no worries i appreciate the help [05:22] type groups [05:23] ok [05:23] No, it didn't. It didn't exist. [05:23] that should give you a list of groups you are in [05:23] then? [05:23] gave me this: marco adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare [05:23] you are not in audio then [05:23] not audio [05:24] yeah [05:24] crapppola [05:24] any thoughts? [05:24] you can also sudo nano /etc/group [05:24] and edit by hand... [05:25] audio should have pulse in it. add ,user [05:25] i am not well versed here, is it easy enough? [05:25] user mod shoiuld have worked. did you try it more than once? [05:26] You should not get the usage message [05:26] just once [05:27] should not hurt to try again. [05:27] U - unlock user account? [05:27] Not sure about with audio, but you can use addgroup... Anywho, I have to leave again. [05:28] add group, that gave me some crazy options [05:28] sudo nano /etc/group [05:28] that gave me the crazy ops [05:29] something else is going on then. [05:30] Did you have to type in your password at least once? [05:30] Which command line are you using? [05:31] yes [05:31] my computer pw [05:31] terminal [05:31] c+alt+t [05:31] *ctrl [05:31] ya === marco is now known as Guest98535 [05:39] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769955/ [05:40] that is what i get from using: sudo nano /etc/group [05:40] i am not sure why i cant figure out how to join audio group [05:44] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5769960/ [05:44] that is what i get from: fgrep -ie 'audio' /etc/group [05:44] ...still lost [05:49] anyone around? [05:56] Can anyone help me figure out how to add a user to the Audio Group? [05:56] \ [06:14] Guest98535: $USER is a variable [06:14] Guest98535: try doing this: echo $USER [06:15] if you want to replace it with your username, drop the "$" [06:15] anything starting with "$" is considered to be a variable by bash [06:16] For the change to be in effect, you need to logout and login again [06:20] if you don't misspell, this will work, if you type it exactly so: sudo usermod -a -G audio $USER [15:43] hi [15:43] is there any tool like projectx for h264/hd? i need to cut hd tv files with 5.1 ac3 sound - without reencoding would be nice === al4nc4ds_ is now known as al4nc4ds [17:05] raven_: i would just try some..AFAIK h264 support is available to be added to any of them [17:06] is there a way to change the image behind the login screen? [17:08] jeevanus: its all open, so the answer is almost always yes.. are you talking about the greeter? [17:08] greeter? i think yes [17:09] i would just search that.. "xubuntu greeter change backgroung" [17:09] hmm [17:09] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2045578 for example [17:10] is there any tool like projectx for h264/hd? i need to cut hd tv files with 5.1 ac3 sound - without reencoding would be nice [17:10] the interface is same for xubuntu and ubuntu studio? both has Xfce? [17:10] keeping the 5.1 sound is the main problem [17:10] ok thanks [17:10] raven_: did you see my post? [17:11] raven_: i have *no* idea what "projectx" is, so, you can elaborate, or share screenshots... *or*, just start trying editors.. since they should all be able to support h.264 [17:11] !h264 [17:11] !codecs [17:11] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/media.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [17:12] do you read my comment? KEEPING AC3 5.1 SOUND IS THE PROBLEM [17:13] raven_: cool.. feel free and wait for another volunteer [17:13] i do [17:13] raven_: you can try #opensourcemusicians ..or the main #ubuntu channel [17:13] tnx [17:13] raven_: keeping AC3 should not be a problem either [17:14] should be less of a problem.. what have you tried? openshot? kdenlive? [17:14] would be nice if it was [17:14] how do they fail for you? [17:15] for example kdenlive i cannot move to export more than 2 channels [17:16] AFAIK, 5.1 is going ot be an issue [17:16] to [17:16] should be able to do the audio and video seperate and forc it somehow [17:16] force* [17:17] las i heard from las (ffrom #ardour), we have no 5.1 audio options [17:25] raven_: http://openshotusers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=174 seems relevant [17:26] openshot is the most recent, and arguably the most supported platfrom === marco is now known as Guest4509 [17:31] Zequence: Are you available for a moment? I had a question about the commands to download the studio packages on Ubuntu. I tried the command 'sudo apt-get ubuntustudio-audio' and it gave me 'invalid operation'. [17:32] Guest4509: sudo apt-get install ubuntustudio-audio [17:32] Guest4509: did you figure out the audio group problem? [17:32] ahhh, lets see here [17:32] yes! thankfullly! [17:32] thanks for asking. [17:33] takes a bit of time getting used to the command line, but the more you use it, the less you want to spend time with slow gui tools that don't even let you do everything you would like [17:34] Zequence: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5771553/ [17:34] you can see all the command for apt-get doing: apt-get --help [17:34] ah, nice, good to know. [17:34] seems like you already installed it then [17:34] Yeah, I prefer using command line for anything I can [17:34] i didnt.... [17:34] which is weird [17:35] well [17:35] someone did :) [17:35] i did the low-latency [17:35] maybe that did it? [17:35] nope [17:35] strange, lets try the next one.... [17:35] I don't think anything depends on ubuntustudio-audio [17:36] Hmm, same thing.... [17:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5771561/ [17:36] for audio-plugins [17:37] if you install -audio, audio-plugins will be installed too [17:37] you can see what will be installed by doing: apt-get depends ubuntustudio-audio [17:37] sorry [17:37] apt-cache depends ubuntustudio-audio [17:38] and to see what depends on it: apt-cache rdepends ubuntustudio-audio [17:38] or: apt-cache rdepends ubuntustudio-audio-plugins [17:38] gotta go for a while. I'll be back later [17:38] ok, looking into this now, looks like ubuntustudio-controls is installing, first of 3. [17:39] you don't need that [17:39] no need to install it [17:39] don't use it :) [17:39] it's out of date [17:39] shit, just installed [17:40] doesn't matter. just don't use it for anything [17:40] ok, gotta go now [17:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5771570/ [17:40] ok [17:41] take care man, thanks as always [18:16] Hey guys, if anyone is available.....My issue is fairly simple. After installing the UbuntuStudio apps in full on Ubuntu, I find myself in need of a way to organize them. Audio is my concern. On Studio they were arranged by Sound Generators, Mixers Effects and than the recording wares... I'd be fine making a list and organizing them this way but I do not know how to figure out the commands to open each of these apps to [18:16] do so.... or, a folder with shortcut icons would work - no concern either way, just that I am unsure of how to accomplish either. [18:24] Guest4509: how much RAM do you have? I know you have problems with the XFCE session, so perhaps you could install a virtual Ubuntu Studio using virtualbox, and that way be able to use the menu to find stuff [18:24] once you know what you want to use, you should have no problems with the Unity Dash as it is [18:24] Hmm [18:24] I have.....8, ubuntu lists 7.7 [18:25] OvenWerks is working on a DE agnostic menu that should work on most Desktop Environments. Not Unity though (I don't think anyway) [18:25] i'm curious about that option but not sure if it seems like something i should/want to do, but, i dont know much about it yet. how would that work. [18:25] okay. [18:25] the menu might work nicely with LXDE [18:26] you could try installing the Lubuntu desktop to get a feel for it [18:26] sudo apt-get install lubuntu-minimal [18:26] you choose Desktop Environment sessions from the login greeter [18:26] not the current menu though [18:26] you'd need to install the development version [18:27] if Lubuntu works for you, just let me know, and I'll point you out to the menu package [18:28] Well, before going that route, considering I've been just wanting to sit down and do some recording - I'd like to try the simpler option of making a list of the commands to open the files and organizing them in a file - spreadsheet or something, i've done that before. DO you know how I'd find out the command to open each of the audio apps ive installed? Otherwise, I'll look into what you are talking about online real quick [18:28] first... I'm just not sure I want to install more than I need, and, than again, your idea may really appeal to me. Guess I'll take a sec and research [18:28] lubuntu is just an addon to ubuntu? [18:28] lubuntu is another flavor of Ubuntu [18:28] just like Ubuntu, Ubuntu Studio, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc [18:29] Lubuntu uses the light weight LXDE desktop environment [18:29] Ah, yeah, I def. don't wanna do that then. It has taken me weeks to get ubuntu to just install right, I've finally got things in fair working order. [18:30] not sure what it is that you are trying to do. It seems to me, you just want to open applications and use them [18:30] ok, basically it is like this. [18:30] start with qjackctl [18:30] make settings for jack, and then start it [18:30] then start whatever apps you want to use [18:30] ardour, qtractor, hydrogen, etc [18:31] All these sound generators, mixers and effects and other audio apps. I do not know which is for which - or how to open any of them up - well, some, sure, not most. So, I wanted to find out the command to open each app up in terminal. THat's all. I will be making myself a list in a way that I can understand and organize. [18:31] you could list the names to a file if you want [18:31] ok, I'm going to open qjackctl, see if I can figure out the JACK settings. [18:32] apt-cache depends ubuntustudio-audio | grep Depends | sed s/Depends:// | sed s/\|// > ubuntustudio-audio-deps [18:32] apt-cache depends ubuntustudio-audio-plugins | grep Depends | sed s/Depends:// | sed s/\|// > ubuntustudio-audio-deps [18:32] sorry [18:32] gotcha [18:32] let me make a paste [18:33] Ive opened qjackctl [18:33] what is it i need to do here? [18:33] connect, start, setup [18:33] setup i assume [18:33] !proaudio [18:33] For information on professional audio tools in Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro [18:34] Guest4509: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/ProAudioIntro#UbuntuStudio.2BAC8-ProAudioIntro.2BAC8-1204.Starting_Jack [18:34] talk about reading mind, I was about to ask if there was documentation on how to use all of these tools in conjunction with e/o [18:34] all you need to do is select the device you want to use, and start jack [18:35] apt-cache depends ubuntustudio-audio-plugins | grep Depends | sed s/Depends:// | sed s/\|// > ubuntustudio-audio-deps didn't give me any results in terminal [18:35] if you need low latency, you decrease Frames/Period [18:35] Guest4509: The output went into a file "ubuntustudio-audio-deps" [18:35] probably in your home folder [18:35] got it [18:35] if you didn't change directory while in the terminal [18:36] so those are the commands to open the apps... nice, i can search them in software center for descriptions and make my list [18:36] THANK YOU! [18:36] Guest4509: Should cover all of them http://paste.ubuntu.com/5771729/ [18:37] those are the names of the packages [18:37] not the same as the commands for starting the apps, even if they often are the same [18:37] when you say select my device and start jack, what do you mean? For the moment I am working with my laptop mic only, soon to be an external mic and direct line fo guitar - but for now, is that what I am to select as my device? Internal mic? How-so? [18:38] Man, my internet has not been working from my browsers, on and off since last night. [18:38] When I say device, I really mean audio card [18:38] Qbit and Quassel work without strain. [18:38] you can only use one at the time with qjackctl [18:38] okay [18:38] not a big deal, itd be nice to have both - even 3, mic for guitar too, but, not that big of a deal at this stage in the game. [18:39] it is possible to use multiple cards, just not directly with qjackctl [18:39] okay, what with? [18:40] would you recomend, that is. [18:40] I'd ask about that on #jack once you feel you know how to use jack [18:41] there are a couple of wasy [18:41] ways* [18:42] Hm, I see input/output devices.... but i am unsure what to select, they each list: 'hw:0', 'plughw:0', '/dev/audio', '/dev/dsp'. [18:42] okay, sounds good, yeah, i am not in need yet anyway. [18:42] don't set input and output separately [18:42] so use the same selection? OK - would it be the /dev/audio then? [18:43] its the only one ive ever heard of. [18:43] that's the wrong menu [18:43] ooo [18:43] I think the page is perhaps a little misleading [18:43] which tab, do you recall? [18:44] the tab is right [18:44] "Settings" [18:44] then, "Interface" [18:44] yep yep [18:44] ummm [18:44] ok [18:44] Select the ">" arrow [18:44] not the dropdown menu [18:44] gotcha [18:45] hw:0 or hw:0,0 [18:45] We're planning to do some tutorials for this this summer [18:45] That'd be fantastic. [18:45] Likely they'd be widely used. [18:45] post them on our youtube channel [18:45] Man, youtubes got it all these days. [18:47] the hw:0 is HDA Intel PCH while the hw:0,0 is ALC269VC Analog [18:47] just select hw:0 [18:47] alrighty. [18:47] if you have several cards, they will show up as hw:1, hw:2, etc [18:47] so i have 2, I assume. [18:47] or no, i dont. [18:48] often people do these days, as hdmi is it's own audio device [18:48] SO, now I just start jack and use arudor or audacity and i'm good to go? [18:48] Yep [18:48] All though, I'd not use Audacity with jack [18:48] no? [18:48] And I wouldn't use Audacity for recording [18:48] why is that? [18:48] what do you use audacity FOR? [18:48] It doesn't have very good jack support [18:49] audacity is a audio editor [18:49] ooooo [18:49] no shit. [18:49] if you want to do multi track recording, either use ardour or qtractor [18:49] thats pretty rad, i was unaware of that [18:49] audacity works great without jack [18:50] many jack apps won't even start if jack is not running first [18:51] Ardour is the way to go then, eh? [18:51] it's definitely the best free multi track recording/mixing/mastering DAW for Linux [18:51] doesn't have a lot of midi support [18:52] ..though [18:52] ardour3 has, but is not released yet on Ubuntu [18:52] if you want ardour3, you could get it from my ppa [18:52] I'm pretty excited to learn this man, I've been playing music for about 13 or so years and the only recording ive ever been able to do is through paid studio time or because of a friend, to be able to sit here in my zone alone and do my thing - well, all I can say is I'm a happy camper. And, I'm good with the PROCESS... it takes time and thats fine. Would you like a link to a few of my recording attempts? I used audacity - [18:52] no JACK. [18:53] sure :) [18:53] that'd be rad, explain to me though, its not released on Ubuntu but I can get it from your ppa? [18:53] ppa == personal package archive [18:54] most of these multimedia applications are packaged in Debian [18:54] the ardour3 package is not yet released for Debian, and thus not for Ubuntu either [18:54] but, the source has been prepared [18:54] I got the source, packaged it, and put it up on my PPA [18:54] man, yeah, that;d be rad... it will work right and all? I'd be rather grateful! [18:54] or, rather, built the package on my PPA (the package already exists, but is not released) [18:55] well, this is what you do: [18:55] OK [18:55] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:zequence/testing [18:55] no need to uninstall what i have first of ardour? [18:56] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install ardour3 [18:56] no need to uninstall anything [18:56] both ardour2 and ardour3 will be available [18:56] ha, my damn internet connection [18:56] cant access cause of it [18:56] after installing it, I'd suggest to remove my PPA, since you never know what I will put in it [18:56] give me a sec, unplug and replug. i dont understand why ive had issues the last 24 hours [18:57] ok, and how do i remove it? [18:57] brb in one sec here, unplugging [18:57] there will be a file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [18:58] this command will remove any file there (only mine will be there, so no worries) [18:58] sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* [18:58] then, re-read the package list again: sudo apt-get update [19:00] when you're writing commands and paths, always use the TAB key a lot [19:00] it does auto-completion for you === marco is now known as Guest18490 [19:07] Zequence: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1hXssnYdm3UqPhV9-_ejrtQ6eeoaS4oH - that is my music - everything from "I wish It Were Raining" down is what I've recorded myself - further down the list the newer. Not much, but, I'm learning. [19:07] Now... lets see if I can get this ppa [19:09] Zequence: can I do this - sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y install ardour3 - on one line? or the && means seperate, my inital thought. [19:09] && is logic for AND [19:09] it is meant to be one line [19:09] gotcha [19:10] ok, now, its about done, how to remove your ppa? [19:11] when you add a ppa, you really just add a file with the repository information in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [19:11] when you do commands, and write paths, use the TAB key a lot [19:11] it auto completes [19:11] do this [19:12] sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [19:12] then use the TAB key [19:12] should autocomplete the rest [19:12] then just hit enter [19:12] ok, before i go ahead with that, on a check I only see ardour 2 [19:12] or it just says ardour [19:12] ah, right [19:12] red triangle [19:12] there's no desktop file for it [19:12] you need to start it from the terminal [19:12] ooo [19:12] ardour3 [19:13] in terminal? thats all? [19:13] any simple way to have an icon arise when I search? [19:13] And I get cannot remove, is a directory [19:14] you shouldn't remove the dir [19:14] did you use the TAB key? [19:14] frack [19:14] no [19:14] use the up arrow to show the latest command [19:15] you can cycle through your command history with up and down arrows [19:15] bring it up, use TAB to autocomplete the path to the file [19:15] sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/zequence-testing-raring.list [19:15] yeah, that's it [19:15] enter and done, no results in terminal? [19:15] yep [19:16] it doesn't say anything, unless it didn't work [19:16] right on Zequence, all this assistence has been such a great hel [19:16] nice music [19:16] really bad recording though :) [19:16] thank you, I'm glad you think so! [19:16] i know! [19:16] it's kind of charming, having the poor recording quality [19:16] gah! You have no idea, I know this, yet, as its SO new to me, its like heaven. haha. [19:17] it would be good to master it a bit, to remove the noise [19:17] 1st time I can play instruments over myself, leads, harmonies, etc. [19:17] well, one of my biggest issues is my laptop mic [19:17] you shoudl see the waveform when silent [19:17] not silenced, but, you know, the moments between notrs [19:17] *notes [19:18] I need to get myself an external mic. Also, further understanding of the softwares. I'm getting excited thought as I'm finally at least moving forward again. [19:26] wouldn't require too much work getting those recordings to sound a lot better [19:26] just needs some EQ, and depending on who you ask, a little bit of compression [19:27] cut the top as much as you dare to (at some point you start loosing too much of the sound) [19:28] compress it to make it a little more in your face. the vocals would benfit from that [19:29] one might also want to cut a bit from around 300-400hz, but that might not be nessecary in this case [19:58] Zequence: I will def. take that all into account. Starting this little list now and - then, gonna give it a shot! THanks. === sirriffsalot is now known as sirriffsalot--af [23:51] Window controls have disappeared on Ubuntu Studio. Why? And how to fix it? [23:51] ...and title bars [23:51] Why? I don't know... [23:52] I would assume though that rm -r .cache/* [23:52] Alt+F2 xfwm --replace [23:52] Thanks that looks faster [23:54] xfwm isn't installed, what would the current window manager be? [23:56] ubuntustudio uses xfce [23:56] 'compiz --replace' runs but doesn't replace the window controls [23:56] if xfwm isn't installed it should be [23:57] so i should install it? [23:58] exitexitexit [23:59] oops [23:59] I am wondering how it would be not installed [23:59] Me too