[00:48] hello all [02:40] Darkwing: what do you think of the google+ page? [03:24] * smartboyhw continues to fix kactivites.......... [03:24] kactivites [03:24] ? [03:25] ahoneybun, 4.11 Beta 1.... [03:25] Ohm it worked now.\ [03:26] Lemme try kde-workspace then... [03:26] never heard of kactivites [03:26] ahoneybun, kactivities [03:27] kde-workspace is missing some XCB libraries ... [03:48] Fixed, uploading to Ninjas PPA, will review after lunch. [03:52] rather, post-piano lesson... === jalcine_ is now known as jalcine [06:06] hrrrr... I hate you scanner!!! (yes, it works in one place, not the other...) [06:10] ahh found the answer. Perhaps we need to somehow make it easier/more discoverable? for users of hp printers - you need to follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne [06:10] simple enough, but frustrating if you just go to the printers thing === BadDesign is now known as Guest76336 [06:16] jussi - might be good to make a ubottu factoid link for that page? I've seen another person asking about one of those allinones, and I never found that page for them [06:16] :( [06:16] valorie: feel free to suggest... [06:17] jussi: how does one suggest/add one? [06:18] huh, ubottu has no 'help factoid' [06:18] valorie: !factoidname is info [06:18] !help [06:18] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [06:19] !hp [06:19] Sorry, I don't know anything about hp [06:19] !hp is HP printers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne [06:20] danke jussi [06:29] good morning [06:38] jussi: I have an all-in-one connected to the network and I didn't have to do any of that. Just followed the normal printer install stuff and it just works. [06:39] ScottK: HP ? [06:39] Yes. [06:40] OfficeJet Pro 8500 [07:11] jussi: yeah, scanning doesn't work OOB with the all in one's for me as well [07:11] jussi: I had to run hp-setup and then it worked [07:13] shadeslayer: yeah, thats exactly how it worked for me [07:13] yup, same here, skanlite didn't find any scanners on the network [07:14] ScottK: when you say "normal printer install stuff" - can you define exactly what you mean. ie. localhost:631, Kubuntu printer install thing, HP-lip program? [08:05] Damn it, kde-workspace still fails. [08:06] the include file (/me checks debian/rules or something) [08:08] hm? [08:11] shadeslayer, of libxcb1-dev [08:12] morning [08:12] morning :) [08:12] Morning yofel trying to fix kde-workspace but the libxcb1-dev got an XCB_INCLUDE_DIR problem... [08:12] yofel: btw what did you change in kde4libs to make it build? [08:12] I just see symbol updates [08:13] shadeslayer: I fixed qtwebkit-source... [08:13] ah [08:13] that had a broken dev symlink [08:13] smartboyhw: are all the xcb libs there? [08:13] armhf is FTBFS there [08:13] * yofel looks at the buld log [08:13] yofel, we need all? [08:13] I thought libxcb1-dev is OK. [08:14] And clearly some XCB extensions are not packaged. [08:14] -- Could NOT find XCB_KEYSYMS (missing: XCB_KEYSYMS_LIBRARIES XCB_KEYSYMS_INCLUDE_DIR) [08:14] -- Could NOT find XCB_ICCCM (missing: XCB_ICCCM_LIBRARIES XCB_ICCCM_INCLUDE_DIR) [08:14] at least ICCCM is there, I know that [08:14] yofel, which package? Can't find in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libxcb [08:14] XCB is only found once all components are found [08:15] yofel, oh... [08:15] libxcb-icccm4-dev [08:15] and libxcb-keysyms1-dev [08:15] * shadeslayer starts looking at other things [08:15] you could also look at the neon packaging branches, those already use them [08:15] Ah, it was in another package..... [08:15] *source package [08:16] that's why me can't find.. [08:16] udev and wayland are missing too [08:20] That's a lot of build-deps [08:31] shadeslayer: re qtwebkit armhf, that's a gcc bug, no? [08:31] Uploading fix for kde-workspace into ninjas PPA. [08:33] didn't check [08:34] /build/buildd/qtwebkit-source-2.3.1/Source/WebCore/svg/SVGPathElement.h:98:23: internal compiler error: in extract_insn, at recog.c:2154 [08:34] The bug is not reproducible, so it is likely a hardware or OS problem. [08:34] what [08:34] :O [08:41] smartboyhw: plz update notes.kde.org so that we don't step on each others toes [08:42] shadeslayer, yeah sure:) [08:42] thanks [08:43] done. [08:47] Hmm I think I added an extra m or something... [08:47] Damnit [08:47] $ grep MISSING debian/libnepomukwidgets4.symbols | wc -l [08:47] 237 [08:47] yaaaaaaay... [08:49] :O [08:50] * smartboyhw damningly wastes banwidth on this thing.... [08:51] vHanda: what the hell have you done to Nepomuk2::Utils in nepomuk-widgets? Most of it looks gone [08:52] * smartboyhw goes and eats a cake.... [08:52] If this still doesn't work, it would be very damning. [08:53] nah, kde-workspace is always a lot of work [09:01] vHanda: hm, ok. I see that you never shipped headers for those so it's fine... [09:04] smartboyhw: just build kde-workspace locally first [09:04] "just" [09:04] :P [09:05] just:P [09:05] Oh gd it failed again:P [09:05] What? I did have udev and xmms... [09:06] But seems like the problem wasn't actually that.... [09:06] -- DebianABIManager: unable to find CMake target 'solidcontrol' for package 'libsolidcontrol4abi2'. Please set X-CMake-Target [09:06] -- DebianABIManager: unable to find CMake target 'solidcontrolifaces' for package 'libsolidcontrolifaces4abi2'. Please set X-CMake-Target [09:06] ? [09:06] I have to enable these packages? [09:07] urgh, DebianABIManager easily gets confused by our double-build of workspace [09:08] meh [09:08] I don't have xmms actually, let me enable [09:08] forget XMMS [09:08] But they're optional.... [09:08] yofel, ? [09:08] Ah, they are not in there... [09:09] smartboyhw: we don't use it [09:09] yofel, OK. [09:09] so it's intentionally missing [09:09] yofel, so how to dump that DebianABIManager error?.... [09:11] smartboyhw: I would start by checking whether that target is there at all [09:13] eh [09:13] kate was never uploaded? [09:13] patch issues, no? [09:13] ah [09:14] you put that list up :P [09:14] thank you akonadi/nepomuk for using 3 of my 4 cpu cores... [09:14] * smartboyhw tries to build locally (but first lemme install the build-deps first... [09:14] mail indexing it seems [09:15] true, that doesn't mean my memory is strong at recalling why I put some of the items there :P [09:19] eh, we have a kubuntu_kate_initial_preference.patch [09:19] but that's not applied? [09:21] * Remove kubuntu_kate_initial_preference.patch now upstream [09:21] ah well, someone forgot to remove it [09:21] along with some other patches [09:26] * smartboyhw kicks off a build........ [09:30] Yep, still the same strange build target thing. [09:35] smartboyhw: not strange at all [09:36] smartboyhw: 4.10.80 doesn't have a solidcontrol library [09:36] so it obviously can't find the cmake target for it [09:36] yofel, :O [09:37] delete those two then!? [09:37] (damnit) [09:40] probably, I'm still trying to find out exactly when that was removed [09:40] but my git foo is failing me [09:41] yofel: shadeslayer: so, where do we put the packaging? [09:41] gitorious/github is fine [09:41] why github o.O? [09:42] what's wrong with kde/launchpad [09:42] oh right [09:42] launchpad is fine as well [09:42] yofel: you'd have to talk to kde, they may have a problem with it *shrug* [09:42] the workspace diff I see reminds me of something I picked up in opensuse-kde: https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/base/networkmanagement/repository/revisions/9a35e04121faafb2a95057f367925c165c3c3337 [09:42] need to ask lamarque what that's about [09:44] apachelogger: then just use launchpad [09:45] lunchpad ftw [09:46] * yofel -> lunch [09:46] bbl [09:47] I made yofel hungry ^^ [09:47] LOL [09:48] Hmm, I saw a commit on 19th June about removing solid::control [09:48] yofel, you are correct, it's removed... [09:51] yofel, shadeslayer, Quintasan: what we'll have is lp:~neon/project-neon-kf5/qt5recipes (all qt recipes for buildr in one palce) - lp:~neon/project-neon-kf5/qtbase; lp:~neon/project-neon-kf5/qtgui; lp:~neon/project-neon-kf5/kdelibs (packaging) - lp:~neon/kdelibs/frameworks (bzr import branch) - qt5 will be cloned and source packaged outside of launchpad and uploaded to the ppa by buildr [09:52] !info muon [09:52] !info muon saucy [09:52] muon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1-0ubuntu0.1 (raring), package size 199 kB, installed size 1393 kB [09:52] muon (source: muon): package manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.1-0ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 197 kB, installed size 1385 kB [09:53] * smartboyhw rebuilds again. [09:53] JontheEchidna: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/06/17/plasma-desktopbr2258.png has that view changed in master? and if so do we get a newer discover for saucy? [09:54] It BUILDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [09:54] * smartboyhw does a tap dance:P [09:55] we have gnome-keyring in the ISO now :( [09:55] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/pending/saucy-desktop-amd64.manifest [09:55] shadeslayer, why? [09:55] because of muon-discover [09:55] shadeslayer, :O [09:55] muon-discover requires gnome-keyring? [09:55] no [09:56] recommends? [09:56] * muon-discover recommends ubuntu-sso-client depends python-ubuntu-sso-client depends on gnome-keyring [09:56] what's wrong with gnome-keyring? [09:56] Ah................ [09:56] Actually, having gnome-keyring is better than not. [09:56] KDE has not managed to provide a secrets API implementation for what... 3 years now :O [09:57] I sometimes get stupid gnome-keyring warnings:p [09:57] gsettings-desktop-schemas 3.8.0-1ubuntu1 [09:57] that sounds less appropriate [09:57] actually [09:58] shadeslayer: why libgtk2/3 are on the ISO is more interesting [09:58] probably recommended by something [09:58] supposedly because of libdbusmenu-gtk3-4:amd64 12.10.3daily13.06.07-0ubuntu1 [09:58] libdbusmenu-gtk4:amd64 12.10.3daily13.06.07-0ubuntu1 [09:58] but who'd know [09:58] also [09:58] I think I should go and take a shower while this kde-workspace builds (now 22%) [09:58] those packages sound like deep shit TBH [09:58] does ubuntu ship libdbusmenu-qt2? [09:59] then why do we need the gtk libs? [09:59] ... [09:59] *nod* [09:59] someone plz implement secret service stuffs in KWallet [09:59] http://commits.kde.org/kde-workspace/c1bac37206b542198385067f36d47dead10297= [09:59] a2 [09:59] the commit which killed off solidcontrol [09:59] http://commits.kde.org/kde-workspace/c1bac37206b542198385067f36d47dead10297=a2 actually [10:24] 27%, 2nd stage. [10:28] shadeslayer, BTW next time you don't have to explicitly state "saucy-proposed" for dev release uploads, write "saucy" and it will redirect it for you (saw the changelog in kde-workspace) [10:28] which upload is this? [10:29] shadeslayer, 4.10.4 saucy. [10:30] don't think that was me [10:30] Or apachelogger ? [10:30] * smartboyhw easily forgets names [10:30] ...... [10:31] Riddell I guess [10:31] Damn it.. [10:31] -- Rohan Garg Fri, 07 Jun 2013 00:19:37 +0100 [10:31] shadeslayer, is it you?^ [10:31] yes, but, I usually don't upload to saucy-proposed [10:31] shadeslayer, ooh [10:32] alrighty [10:32] kate done as well [10:32] shadeslayer, \o/ [10:32] kde-workspace should be able to be uploaded within 1 hour or so. [10:40] smartboyhw: rev 766 in kde-workspace packaging [10:40] http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/?rev=766&view=rev | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk -r 766 | *** empty log message *** [10:40] -.- [10:40] shadeslayer, 15 years ago? Why do you want that!? [10:41] I meant the bzr rev [10:41] stupid ubottu [10:41] shadeslayer, LOL [10:48] Help..... Can someone suggest solutions to http://paste.kde.org/775856/ ? [10:48] Almost finally, and it failed. [10:48] shadeslayer, ^ [10:48] * smartboyhw really has to go for a shower... [10:48] cp: cannot stat ‘debian/tmp/usr/bin/solid-network’: No such file or directory [10:48] shadeslayer, what's that? [10:48] smartboyhw: likewise [10:48] That's the question... [10:49] means there is no usr/bin/solid-network anymore [10:49] and you need to drop it from the install file [10:49] shadeslayer, uh, that requires me to build it again and again.... [10:49] smartboyhw: let me know if you want an EC2 instance [10:49] shadeslayer, I think later. [10:49] okay [10:50] smartboyhw: the saucy-proposed thing came from the upload script I believe [10:50] mind fixing that? [10:50] yofel, laters, let me get this kde-workspace done. [10:50] k [10:50] The problem is that it doesn't tell WHICH install file which means I have to go through them:( [10:51] grep it [10:51] uh, it does? [10:51] Yeah, I need it. [10:52] smartboyhw: it usually shows you the target folder it tries to copy the file into [10:52] you can guess the install file from that [10:52] Oh yeah it does:P [10:53] Hmm weird, that file doesn't even exist.............. [10:54] in the .install file [10:55] Yes found it!!!!!!!! [10:55] yofel, should I better also remove things with networkmanager in the .install file? [10:56] Since clearly that thing doesn't exist at all...... [10:56] probably, otherwise this will take ages. You can add stuff back when it shows in list-missing [10:57] jussi: Printers thing in system settings --> Add printer. [10:58] ScottK: that doesn't make the scanner work [10:58] only adds the printer [10:58] * smartboyhw now goes and takes a shower while this thing rebuilds. [10:58] When I fire up skanlite, it finds it on the network. [10:59] I don't think I had to set up anything for that. [10:59] it does so here too, but I have hp-systray running so maybe that helps [11:00] I don't. [11:00] * ScottK needs to go. [11:00] bah, power outage [11:01] will poke kde-baseapps once its restored [11:11] Hiyas all [11:24] "Kenny Duffus (kduffus) renewed their own membership in the Kubuntu Members (kubuntu-members) team until 2014-06-24" yay seaLne still loves us! [11:28] :) [11:30] Riddell, :) [11:32] yofel: ping [11:32] hm? [11:34] yofel: are you going to port your neon macro stuff to kf5? [11:34] I am reasonable certain if I touch it the builds will not work for the rest of the year :S [11:35] apachelogger: can do, what exactly needs porting though? (note: i have yet to make one successful build of qt5 and kf5...) [11:36] yofel: put everything into /opt/project-neon-kf5 I guess [11:36] or project-neon5 [11:36] which do you like better? [11:37] latter [11:38] include /opt/project-neon5/share/project-neon/pkg-project-neon.mk [11:39] yofel: what do we call the packages? project-neon5-qtbase? [11:40] rather [11:40] include /opt/project-neon5/share/pkg-project-neon/1/project-neon.mk [11:40] yofel: that's what you have in your qt :P [11:40] as I won't mess with the current buildsystem rev, or things really will not work for a year 11 [11:40] ^^ [11:41] apachelogger: that's a legacy symlink to ../pkg-project-neon/0/project-neon.mk [11:41] using /1/ then :P [11:42] hm... [11:43] this was never designed for renaming the project folder -.- [11:43] that's why I said there's a whole bunch of crap that needs changing :P [11:45] yeah, but that even counts for project-neon-runtime, as that's currently a flat folder structure in bzr that's packaged. [11:45] and cp -r opt/project-neon opt/project-neon5 sounds wrong -.- [11:45] why? [11:45] how is the work on 4.11 going ? :) i read opensuse has it ready already [11:46] apachelogger: I'll duplicate the buildsystem, but that's my fault for putting it there I guess [11:46] still coming along, we've had a year's worth of debian merges to do as well so not as fast as ideal but it's on its way [11:46] soee: all help appreciated [11:47] apol still hasn't bumped the so version [11:47] boo [11:47] Riddell, i would help if i would know anything about packaging - its in my plans to learn but have no time for this atm (to many projects to do) [11:48] Request for EC2s.... [11:48] shadeslayer: you fine wth /opt/project-neon5? better idea? [11:48] * shadeslayer thinks that's fine [11:48] yofel: IMO not sharing the buildsystem is the way to go anyway [11:48] Riddell, shadeslayer can you guys get me one? [11:48] when two things that are not the same live in the same file thigns get messy [11:48] ask shadeslayer and his pgst stuff :P [11:49] smartboyhw: get you what? [11:49] shadeslayer, ec2:P [11:49] ah [11:49] ec2 [11:49] apachelogger: yeah, that's why I wanted to add a new rev, but there's a lot more in there that musn't be shared [11:49] yofel, ^ [11:49] apachelogger: I think i'll just for project-neon-runtime and make project-neon5-runtime [11:49] *fork [11:50] Riddell can probably do that better [11:50] yofel: sounds good to me [11:51] https://code.launchpad.net/project-neon5 [11:53] Quintasan: ^ [11:58] yofel: I suppose we want a separate ppa? [11:59] oh, I already created one with a silly name [11:59] ololo [11:59] do we really need a spereate one? [12:00] for the time being I'd keep the stuff separate tbh [12:00] only bloats each other's apt cache [12:00] and it's perfectly reasonable to use only the kf5 neon or only the sc4 neon [12:01] oh well [12:01] sure, but they should be able to co-exist, and I don't want to deprecate a ppa with 32G of space :P === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [12:01] it wouldn't be deprecation [12:01] at some point the main ppa will become the ppa for frameworks5 stuff :P [12:01] but yeah, a work archive until we have something that works would be good [12:01] https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/kf5 [12:02] feel free to propoes better name :P [12:02] anyway [12:02] yofel: please poke me when you have make runtime whatever magic that possibly builds, I'll try to make qtbase build work then [12:03] * apachelogger is very excited \\o/ [12:03] that'll be good for neon. lately it's mostly been in maintenance mode ^^ [12:03] apachelogger: so will this be coinstallable with regular PN? [12:04] yofel: because it works so well :P [12:04] that's the reason we want opt/project-neon5/ [12:04] apachelogger: right, but you'll also need config stuff [12:04] and a desktop file [12:04] desktop is no issue [12:04] shadeslayer: hm? [12:04] there is no desktop?! :P [12:04] the utils are an issue because I put those in /usr [12:05] on my todo for later though [12:05] apachelogger: alternative config folder to ~/.project-neon-kde [12:05] I'll probably just name everything neon5-* ^^ [12:05] ^^ [12:05] shadeslayer: alternative everything [12:05] :D [12:05] at least we have experience in that :P [12:06] *nod* [12:06] atleast we have a env rc file that we can sed out :P [12:07] Riddell: what are your thoughts on gtk bits landing on the ISO when you add muon-discover? [12:13] Nobody gave me an EC2?:( [12:14] Rebuilding again.... [12:17] ehm [12:17] http://paste.kde.org/775874/ [12:17] ? [12:18] apachelogger: without that qtscriptgenerator doesn't build [12:18] because qtscriptgenerator apparently is too stupid to include PHONON_INCLUDES [12:19] probably, the archive package has phonon-inc.patch for that [12:19] * apachelogger shakes head [12:19] * yofel agrees [12:24] apachelogger: do we need package tests? Nobody cared to make them work for neon4... [12:24] yofel: package tests? [12:24] dh_auto_test [12:24] nah [12:24] mighty upstraem has CI ^^ [12:24] ok, removed [12:24] true, that actually works, dh tests don't === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [12:25] * yofel fixes a bazillion hardcoded project names... [12:27] *blink* [12:28] yofel: http://paste.kde.org/775880/ [12:29] o.O [12:29] uh oh... [12:29] ? [12:30] not even sure where that comes from tbh [12:30] shadeslayer: check the control file, but I might know where that came from [12:30] lol [12:30] Package: libkonq5-dev (>= 4:4.10.80) [12:30] xD [12:30] yeah, I feared as much [12:30] I broke kubuntu-initial-upload [12:31] heh [12:31] fixed [12:31] awesome [12:32] * yofel had totally forgotten to revert that -.- === mydogsnameisrudy is now known as monkeyjuice [12:34] * yofel wonders whether we still need update_qt_cache.pl [12:34] probably not [12:34] actually it makes no sense as it has qt4 in the path === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback [12:51] Riddell: Got the tablet [12:51] 1. Great return address (>We don't have countries in Scotland) [12:51] \o/ [12:51] haha [12:51] 2. You kind of forgot to delete you google data [12:51] http://paste.kde.org/775898 project-neon5-runtime [12:51] ie. I had access to your inbox [12:51] now I need to review that ^^ [12:53] apachelogger: looks like this in master: http://i.imgur.com/mUnq12Z.png [12:53] (for 2.1 for saucy) [12:53] * Quintasan kindly deletes everything from the tablet [12:55] Quintasan: No worries, Riddell doesn't have many secrets:P [12:56] Quintasan: here's what I've been working on for the rootfs http://paste.kde.org/775910/ [12:57] Quintasan: hopefully you can use that to create a rootfs for the userdata partition [12:57] just copy the tar and extract it using the recovery [12:57] missing some characters the script is [12:59] Quintasan: Better : http://paste.kde.org/775916/ [13:01] smartboyhw: I'm pretty sure you wouldn't like me having access to every message you receive [13:01] Quintasan, I know:) [13:02] shadeslayer: ok [13:02] will try [13:02] okay [13:03] you're on your own wrt the kernel stuff though :P [13:03] mmkya [13:03]