[01:30] <Newk> HelloWorld321: set a hard to guess pasword :p you can have a look at gufw and clamtk and see if you need those
[03:15] <zhx> Hello, I've just installed Lubuntu on my Dell Inspiron Mini and am having networking issues. Xubuntu worked out of the box for me, but I want something lighter. The wifi is not working, and I cannot get it to connect to the internet to download the drivers I need through ethernet, either.
[03:15] <zhx> It does not seem to be an issue with my network; I get an IP, DNS servers, etc, but I cannot ping anything (including the router), and chromium won't browse to any pages
[03:15] <holstein> lubuntu and xubuntu *are* ubuntu
[03:15] <zhx> is there something obvious i'm overlooking?
[03:16] <holstein> its more likely you are using different versions
[03:16] <zhx> right, but rather than install ubuntu and then a different window manager, etc, i just installed lubuntu fresh since I'm not super comfortable in linux
[03:17] <holstein> but, im proposing you did different versions
[03:18] <zhx> both my xubuntu and lubuntu downloads are 13.0.4. I mean, the time between me installing xubuntu and lubuntu was like a week
[03:18] <holstein> well, they are the same
[03:18] <holstein> you can install xubuntu, since its works for you, and you are new.. then install lxde
[03:18] <zhx> thats why i dont understand why my wifi/network worked flawlessly under xubuntu but am having issues with lubuntu
[03:19] <zhx> yeah that might be my best bet at this point
[03:20] <zhx> i just wanted to make sure that the networking *should* be working, and that there wasn't a step i was missing
[03:20] <holstein> yes.. it should.. and its the same underneath
[03:20] <zhx> thats so weird then
[03:21] <holstein> maybe you upgraded one, and not the other
[03:21] <zhx> well yeah on xubuntu i was able to grab software updates because i wasn't having this weird network issue with my wired connection
[03:22] <zhx> so strange
[03:22] <zhx> so i tried to manually install the wifi driver, but then i was stuck in this endless loop of tracking down dependencies -__-
[03:23] <zhx> and im worried that even if i do get wifi working, i wont connect, since the laptop is theoretically connected right now and isn't working
[03:24] <zhx> so, reinstall xubuntu, update it, then install lxde and it should be just as snappy as this fresh lubuntu install?
[03:25] <holstein> snapppy?
[03:25] <zhx> the os feels much faster than xubuntu did
[03:25] <zhx> is what i mean
[03:26] <holstein> i mean, your machine is your machine
[03:26] <holstein> it wont make it any faster
[03:26] <holstein> you can use lxde where ever you like
[03:27] <zhx> im not saying literally physically faster, but my xubuntu install felt much more sluggish than this lubuntu install
[03:27] <zhx> haha sorry if im not making any sense
[03:28] <zhx> i mean, its a low-power netbook, so i'm just trying to get a lightweight distro on it is all
[03:29] <holstein> zhx: use what works, then all lxde
[03:29] <holstein> add*
[03:30] <zhx> okay, i guess i wasn't aware switching window managers was that simple. it makes sense though
[03:30] <holstein> zhx: just install lxde.. not lubuntu-desktop
[03:32] <zhx> okay, haha, thanks so much for clearing that up for me man
[05:49] <vychune> Good Morning
[05:50] <vychune> Does anyone know how to install Lubuntu via Command Line from CD?
[05:53] <JohnDoe_71Rus> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[05:53] <JohnDoe_71Rus> then apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[05:56] <vychune> minimal cd required
[05:57] <vychune> ?
[05:58] <vychune> (burned live ISO with only computer with a burner)
[06:14] <JohnDoe_71Rus> vychune: or comand line install from live iso
[06:14] <vychune> yes
[06:14] <vychune> how do i start it?
[06:16] <JohnDoe_71Rus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=856449
[06:17] <JohnDoe_71Rus> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1454365
[06:32] <vychune> still cant find this option
[06:33] <JohnDoe_71Rus> mini iso is better. you can use usb flash for it
[06:39] <vychune> JohnDoe_71Rus: ill just have to find a way to burn in else where
[06:39] <vychune> (pc is too old for usb boot)
[06:54] <vychune> JohnDoe_71Rus: thanks for the help
[09:22] <user8382> There's a problem with gsynaptics (touch pad controls).  It refuses to disable touchpad tapping, although I have "Disable tapping" checked.
[09:24] <user8382> Lubuntu 12.04.  I had to check 'disable tapping and scrolling' to disable tapping alone, but i'm going to lose webpage scolling via touchpad.
[09:26] <user8382> Sorry this is Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS with lxde.  I should redirect this bug to the ubuntu room.
[09:38] <TheMechanist> hi all
[13:51] <HElephant> Having an issue, could anyone help?
[14:22] <insomnia_> hi everyone, today i replaced windows 7 with lubuntu on my Netbook, i'm just wondering is there a recommended app list? (ie libre office, chrome, vlc, etc)
[14:22] <HElephant> insomnia_, There is no Chrome. There is Chromium.
[14:23] <Unit193> Depends on what you want to do.
[14:23] <holstein> insomnia_:  i would just use the default applications, much like you probably did when you first started using windows.. i would go from there, and try suggestions as your needs become more specified
[14:24] <insomnia_> okay, thanks.
[14:24] <holstein> HElephant: there is a chrome version available for linux
[14:24] <HElephant> holstein, wtf, though there was only Chromium.
[14:25] <holstein> HElephant: its not in the repos, but google makes a version available
[14:25] <HElephant> Oh okay.
[14:26] <insomnia_> i don't mean to start anything, but i find Chrome has better support than Chromium.  there's just a lot less things i need to mess with.
[14:27] <holstein> insomnia_: doenst have to be "better".. better is a matter of opinion. if you want chrome, get it
[14:28] <insomnia_> thanks
[14:28] <holstein> insomnia_: i use chrome. https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[14:31] <insomnia_> also, is there a beginners guide to lubuntu?  i've already read the lubuntu help/FAQ/wiki links above
[14:31] <holstein> thats a great place to start
[14:32] <insomnia_> any extra reading materiel?  i'm very new to linux/lubuntu.
[14:32] <holstein> insomnia_:  i would just prepare for failure... if you want to experiment, load up the live CD, and break that.. try things on a test user account.. get a secondary machine (cheap/free) and install lubuntu, and experiment there
[14:33] <holstein> ask *specific* questions.. such as "i am trying to edit pictures, any suggestions on an image editor that does so and so?"
[14:33] <insomnia_> ok
[14:33] <holstein> otherwise, there are literally hundreds and thousands of applications, guides, users.. youtube videos.. tutorials.. wiki pages
[20:14] <Schism-> hey, I am trying to install 13.04 on a machine with a blank 250GB hd via nfs livecd, and I am getting an error 28, saying there is no space left on device
[20:14] <Schism-> anyone seen anything like this?
[20:17] <phillw> Schism-: my best guess is that it does not have a blank partition or is not formatted ext4
[20:17] <Schism-> wait, that error was from the bug crash reporting program
[20:18] <Schism-> I did a cfdisk -z  on the device
[20:18] <Schism-> I created partitions myself and mkswaped and mkfs.ext4 the partitions myself, same error
[20:19] <Schism-> it gets about 60MB of stuff on the drive before the installer crashes
[20:19] <Schism-> on /target
[20:20] <phillw> try making the disk unallocated
[20:20] <Schism-> meaning?
[20:20] <phillw> I've not done nfs installs, so am not the best person to advise (unallocated = no partitions at all)
[20:21] <Schism-> yeah, that's what the cfdisk -z /dev/sda did
[20:21] <Schism-> doing that again though
[20:23] <Schism-> let me try to do this using the 32bit desktop instead of the 64bit desktop...
[20:24] <Schism-> with 1GB of ram the 32bit vs 64bit shouldn't be a big deal
[20:25] <binaryhermit> with 1 GB of RAM you probably should go with 32 bit, IMO, since 64 bit uses a bit more RAM
[20:25] <Schism-> yeah, it's all bits to me :)
[20:26] <Schism-> running through the 32bit one now, about to get to the same part where it crashes
[20:26] <Schism-> on the 64bit install
[20:29] <Schism-> looks better on the 32bit :)
[20:29] <Schism-> thanks!
[20:50] <phillw> binaryhermit: good point, thanks for that :)
[21:26] <vjacob> Hiya. Any idea why a "dd if=/dev/random of=delete.this" does not seem to do much?
[21:26] <vjacob> +might
[21:28] <binaryhermit> /dev/random runs out of entropy and stops outputting random randomness?  /dev/urandom doesn't care if it runs out of entropy.
[21:32] <vjacob> binaryhermit, why does /random run out of randomness but /urandom not so?
[21:33] <vjacob> binaryhermit, understand why now. Thank you.
[22:01] <Anuhak> Hello, using lbuntu, how do I get the file manager to warn me about file space limitations before a file copying operation?
[22:49] <Skymont> how do you reinstall a fresh copy of lubuntu on a dual boot?