| dpm | good mornign | 06:43 |
|---|---|---|
| dpm | *morning | 06:43 |
| dpm | still not quite there, it seems | 06:43 |
| elfy | one more cup of coffee | 06:44 |
| elfy | morning dpm | 06:44 |
| dpm | hi elfy :) | 06:44 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:30 |
| elfy | morning dholbach | 07:31 |
| dholbach | hey elfy | 07:33 |
| elfy | dholbach: thanks for looking at that comm website bug so quickly :) | 07:34 |
| dholbach | no worries :) | 07:36 |
| elfy | :) | 07:37 |
| smartboyhw | Hey dholbach | 08:06 |
| dholbach | hey smartboyhw | 08:06 |
| smartboyhw | dholbach, private message? | 08:06 |
| dholbach | sure | 08:06 |
| * smartboyhw has some secret plans for dholbach to write | 08:06 | |
| dholbach | haha :) | 08:06 |
| popey | dholbach: congrats on the diving! | 08:11 |
| dholbach | thanks popey | 08:11 |
| * popey notes discourse down for maintenance | 08:11 | |
| AskUbuntu | This is a slitaz query - sorry! Firewall setup & Slitaz community | http://askubuntu.com/q/309152 | 08:53 |
| smartboyhw | ...... | 09:01 |
| * popey notes discourse is still down for maintenance | 12:11 | |
| * popey pokes jcastro | 12:11 | |
| jcastro | yeah it was up last night | 12:11 |
| jcastro | maybe marcoceppi is cheating on a monday morning | 12:11 |
| popey | been down for 4 hours | 12:14 |
| jcastro | huh | 12:14 |
| jcastro | ok, he should be up soon to investigate | 12:14 |
| popey | cool | 12:14 |
| jcastro | popey: ok all set | 13:02 |
| popey | thanks jcastro | 13:36 |
| marcoceppi | popey: that error message is the default for when nginx is up, but discourse is down. So if it's not during a maint window, or it's not back within 5 mins, something dun bork'd | 13:44 |
| popey | ☻ | 13:46 |
| jono | dholbach, nice work on the XDA thread | 13:57 |
| dholbach | jono, there's a few more questions to be answered, but we're working on it :) | 13:57 |
| jono | dholbach, np | 13:57 |
| jono | this is just an awesome engagement with XDA | 13:57 |
| dholbach | yeah | 13:58 |
| jono | I love our relationship with that community | 13:58 |
| jcastro | man | 14:00 |
| jcastro | that is fricking awesome | 14:00 |
| jcastro | it's better than our FAQ! | 14:00 |
| jcastro | heh | 14:00 |
| jcastro | I love it when people first meet ubuntu and it doesn't make sense to them | 14:00 |
| popey | dpm: mhall119 hangout? | 14:01 |
| dpm | popey, mhall119, I might be a bit late today, tied with something else, please start without me | 14:02 |
| popey | k | 14:03 |
| dpm | thanks! | 14:06 |
| jono | dpm, all set? | 14:57 |
| jono | oops, I am a few mins early | 14:57 |
| dpm | jono, np, all set anyway :) | 14:57 |
| dpm | jono, I'll be a min | 15:00 |
| jono | dpm, np | 15:01 |
| dpm | jono, ok, all set | 15:02 |
| jono | dpm, weird, the hangout isnt loading for me | 15:03 |
| dpm | hm, strange | 15:03 |
| jono | dpm, rebooting | 15:05 |
| dpm | np | 15:05 |
| balloons | someone even ported ubuntu touch to the old phone I have the htc g2 | 15:19 |
| smartboyhw | balloons, :) | 15:36 |
| * dholbach relocates - brb | 15:46 | |
| === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach | ||
| jono | dholbach, dpm gonna be late | 16:00 |
| jono | otp | 16:00 |
| dholbach | no worries | 16:00 |
| dpm | jono, no worries, we'll have dholbach talk about his diving experiences there in the meantime ;) | 16:01 |
| daker | Hi guys, does anyone have a phone or tablet running Ubuntu Touch and i need feedback on something i am working on ? | 16:52 |
| popey | sure | 16:56 |
| daker | popey: PM | 16:56 |
| popey | sure | 16:56 |
| dholbach | see you! | 17:04 |
| jono | balloons, wrapping a blog entry and then will be there | 18:32 |
| balloons | jono, :-) kk | 18:32 |
| jono | mhall119, can you reddit http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/06/17/ubuntu-and-xda-an-awesome-relationship/ ? | 18:49 |
| mhall119 | absolutely | 18:51 |
| mhall119 | http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1gj620/ubuntu_and_xda_an_awesome_relationship/ | 18:52 |
| mhall119 | we're like chocolate and peanut butter | 18:52 |
| mhall119 | milk and cookies | 18:52 |
| mhall119 | lime and coconut | 18:52 |
| jono | jcastro, can you post that to /r/linux ? | 18:53 |
| jcastro | why do I always get stuck with /r/linux. | 18:53 |
| jcastro | it's just going to get downvoted there | 18:54 |
| jono | jcastro, no it wont | 18:54 |
| jono | most of our posts get upvoted | 18:54 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, ping. | 18:54 |
| jono | balloons, coming now | 18:54 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: pong. | 18:54 |
| jcastro | ok I will try it | 18:54 |
| jono | fantastically my Cannibal Corpose album just finished in time :-) | 18:54 |
| balloons | I can do it if you wish | 18:54 |
| balloons | I like karma | 18:54 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, heya, dude. If I wanted to propose some code for the discourse install, you're the bloke to talk to, right? | 18:55 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: for the ubuntu-discourse install? then yes | 18:55 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, cool. Would you like Ubuntu webapps integration for it? ;) | 18:55 |
| jcastro | http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1gj6be/ubuntu_and_xda_an_awesome_relationship/ | 18:55 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: most definitely, yes | 18:55 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: see, it just got an upvote :) | 18:55 |
| jcastro | lol | 18:56 |
| marcoceppi | I think Upstream would like it eventually as well ;) | 18:56 |
| aquarius | this is perfectly suitable for upstream :) | 18:56 |
| mhall119 | +1 for discourse webapps integration | 18:58 |
| marcoceppi | As far as getting it on to the ubuntu-discourse site you can send me a git patch, or submit it for inclusion on my fork of the git repo | 18:58 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, that'd mean that I have to grasp the git nettle ;) | 18:58 |
| aquarius | which I suppoooooooose I ought to do. | 18:58 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: that's why I take patches :) | 18:58 |
| aquarius | what I am not, currently, sure about is which event I should trap to know that it's all set up... | 18:59 |
| marcoceppi | Oh, well that's out of my leauge as well. I saw your post on the meta site, I'm sure sam or someone will drop by to answer it | 18:59 |
| aquarius | other than that, Launcher and messaging menu integration works. In 36 lines of code. I love JavaScript. | 19:00 |
| marcoceppi | \o/ | 19:00 |
| jcastro | you should post your experience with ember yo | 19:00 |
| aquarius | I shall | 19:02 |
| aquarius | if you want to try it out, you can | 19:02 |
| aquarius | because you can just paste the code into the console ;) | 19:02 |
| aquarius | obviously to integrate into the site proper we need to hook a discourse-is-set-up-now event, and I'm trying to work that out, but you can test it now if you want :) | 19:03 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, can you try patching something into your local install to see if it works? | 19:12 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, I appreciate that this will be immensely annoying remote-debugging. :) | 19:12 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: no problem :) | 19:13 |
| marcoceppi | So, I'm not sure what upstream will say, if this is something they'd want in core (seems passive enough, that "why not", would be a sufficient answer) but if not they're working on a plugin system and I could see this being a prime example of a plugin if not a core feature | 19:14 |
| * marcoceppi spins up vagrant | 19:15 | |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, https://gist.github.com/stuartlangridge/5799474 -- that code should go in discourse/app/views/common/_discourse_javascript.html.erb, after Discourse.start() | 19:15 |
| aquarius | (obviously we'd want to put it in a separate file, call out to it as a function, etc, etc, etc, etc) | 19:15 |
| aquarius | (we might want to put it *in* Discourse.start. Or invent a we-are-done event and fire it. Etc. But this will do for now just to see if it works ;)) | 19:17 |
| aquarius | it should do, in theory, three things: 1. put an icon on the launcher, 2. when you get notifications, put a count in the messaging menu, and 3. put that count as a Launcher badge. | 19:17 |
| jcastro | jono: FYI I can go early today if you want | 19:33 |
| jono | jcastro, all set | 19:52 |
| jcastro | ya | 19:54 |
| jono | jcastro, I am there | 19:55 |
| jcastro | Waiting for people to join this video call... | 19:55 |
| jcastro | Invite more | 19:55 |
| jcastro | huh | 19:55 |
| jcastro | did it split brain us | 19:55 |
| jcastro | oh nm I am moron | 19:55 |
| jcastro | ok guys I messed up the URL for reddit | 19:58 |
| jcastro | http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1gjbmc/ubuntu_and_xda_an_awesome_relationship/ | 19:58 |
| jcastro | jono: sec, you froze up on me | 20:07 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: haven't forgotten about you, my local vagrant set up is currently broke | 20:17 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, no worries | 20:19 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, this is why I didn't try and set myself up a whole discourse install :) | 20:19 |
| aquarius | I suppose I could have spun up an ec2 instance and then jujued myself a discourse, mind. | 20:20 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: okay, got that sorted. So I got request to add the webapp | 20:20 |
| marcoceppi | going to try notifications | 20:20 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, cool. If you add it, then get yourself a notification somehow, you should find that a line shows up in the messaging menu | 20:21 |
| bkerensa | jono: is the plan for Ubuntu Touch to use the Android base its using for the long term? | 20:21 |
| aquarius | jcastro, is there anyone who offers free cloud instances? so I could spin up a free cloud machine and stick discourse on it with juju to try this sort of thing? | 20:21 |
| bkerensa | I'm a bit baffled as to why sponsoring a XDA conference would bring benefit to Canonical or Ubuntu unless the plan were to stick with a Android base. | 20:21 |
| bkerensa | aquarius: AWS has a free tier if you have never used it. | 20:22 |
| aquarius | bkerensa, oh? interesting. | 20:22 |
| bkerensa | http://aws.amazon.com/free/ | 20:22 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: cool, notifications work too | 20:22 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, excellent! | 20:22 |
| * bkerensa got a pull into discourse \o/ | 20:23 | |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, so, we should chat about how best to integrate this into your branch :) | 20:23 |
| marcoceppi | http://i.imgur.com/1zfT4Jd.png | 20:23 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, sweet. Also, you will note that you need a new icon ;) | 20:24 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: it's pretty easy. You can run the following to get me a patch: `git commit -a; git format-patch origin/master --stdout > add_ubuntu_webapps.patch` then just send me the patch file | 20:25 |
| marcoceppi | (after you've droped that code in to a local copy of the git repo) | 20:25 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, ah, I didn't mean "how do I send you a patch", it's more "where should we put the code to be best appreciated by upstream" :) | 20:25 |
| aquarius | I am researching... | 20:25 |
| marcoceppi | ah | 20:25 |
| marcoceppi | yeah, I need to create an apple-touch icon for the ubuntu-discourse stuff | 20:26 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, I will attempt to do an actual git thing. I need to hat up on that front anyway. | 20:26 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: So, there's plugins. I'm still not comfortable using them, since they require messing with Gemfiles and Gemlock files, but if you wanted to, you could use the discourse_emoji or discourse_plugin "gem" as an example (in the vendor directory) | 20:30 |
| aquarius | gah. | 20:30 |
| aquarius | that sounds... unpleasant. | 20:30 |
| aquarius | really, all we need is some sort of "it is all done" event to be fired. | 20:31 |
| marcoceppi | otherwise it just needs an erb file somewhere _discourse_unity_integration.js.erb and that needs to be included in the compilation of the js | 20:31 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: there was a reply to your thread | 20:31 |
| aquarius | I don't even think we need an erb file | 20:31 |
| aquarius | yeah, I saw the reply | 20:31 |
| aquarius | the Discourse object doesn't currently have a ready() method. | 20:31 |
| aquarius | What I am thinking of is to add one which fires a Discourse-Is-Ready event. | 20:31 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: sorry, yeah it could just live in app/assets/javascripts/unity.js or whatever made sense | 20:32 |
| aquarius | and then our script just adds an event handler for that event. | 20:32 |
| * marcoceppi dislikes ruby | 20:32 | |
| aquarius | and... then we can just drop an ubuntu-webapps-discourse.js file into javascripts/external or something :) | 20:32 |
| aquarius | I am trying to grasp how to make ember do events... or whether I shoudl just do a Real DOM Event and ignore ember ;) | 20:32 |
| bkerensa | hah I guess in Fedora circles there is a rumor that Mir will not be open source | 20:37 |
| mhall119 | what? | 21:15 |
| mhall119 | it's *already* open source | 21:15 |
| mhall119 | https://launchpad.net/mir the code is right there | 21:16 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: I realize that and pointed the guy there. | 21:23 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, ping? | 21:25 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: pong | 21:25 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, do you have a few minutes to give me a remedial class in git? ;) | 21:25 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: of course | 21:26 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, OK. I forked your discourse repo on github, then git cloned my fork. I changed a couple of files, then "git add"ed those files, then git commit with a message. Now I want to push my changes back to my github repo; I did "git push origin master", it asked for my username/password, then says: error: src refspec master does not match any. | 21:27 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: that's because, I'm doing a whole bunch of things wrong | 21:27 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, do I need to do: git remote add origin https://github.com/stuartlangridge/discourse.git ? | 21:27 |
| marcoceppi | so it's not you, it's me | 21:27 |
| aquarius | to add a new remote called "origin"? | 21:28 |
| marcoceppi | There's already an origin, if you cloned it from your git. You just cloned with https instead of the git@github.com address (not a big deal). Check what branch you're currently on (`git branch`) it probably says "ubuntu-discourse" instead of the typical master | 21:28 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, ya, it says "ubuntu-discourse" | 21:29 |
| jcastro | aquarius: skip the AWS free trial | 21:29 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: so, what you'll want to do is git push origin ubuntu-discourse | 21:29 |
| jcastro | micros are worthless and it won't even run on them | 21:30 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: caveat- | 21:30 |
| * aquarius waits for the caveat ;) | 21:30 | |
| marcoceppi | Because I constantly re-write history I'd recommend you push to a different branch other than ubuntu-discourse http://test.ubuntu-discourse.org/t/i-want-to-contribute-to-this-sites-code-how-do-i-do-that/275 | 21:31 |
| jcastro | the best bang/buck right now is Digital Ocean IMO | 21:31 |
| aquarius | gnahh, I do not understand that at all, marcoceppi ;-) | 21:32 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: don't worry about the caveat then :P | 21:32 |
| marcoceppi | just push away! | 21:32 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, it says: "Open a merge request. " which I have no idea how to do :) | 21:32 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: once you push, github will probably poke you to open a merge request: https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests | 21:33 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, so, I should do: git push origin ubuntu-discourse ? Or should I do, like, git push origin sil-ubuntu-webapps-integration ? | 21:33 |
| aquarius | I understand bzr. I do not understand this ;) | 21:33 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: preferably the latter, but you'll first need to run `git checkout -b sil-ubuntu-webapps-integration`, then the push command | 21:33 |
| jcastro | aquarius: if you're doing dev work and need cloud instances I can certainly toss you in the reimbursement bucket and ask antonio | 21:34 |
| * aquarius types in commands under instructions from marcoceppi like a robot ;) | 21:34 | |
| marcoceppi | git push origin sil-ubuntu-webapps-integration | 21:34 |
| marcoceppi | Give that a go | 21:34 |
| aquarius | I did the checkout thing first | 21:34 |
| marcoceppi | Your username and password are the u/p for github when it prompts you | 21:34 |
| aquarius | * [new branch] sil-ubuntu-webapps-integration -> sil-ubuntu-webapps-integration | 21:34 |
| aquarius | aha, and that has now shown up on github. | 21:35 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: cool, it worked. If you go to the branch dropdown in github on your repo you'll see the branch you just pushed | 21:35 |
| aquarius | so now I click the "pull request" button on that branch, right? | 21:35 |
| marcoceppi | yes, you want to pull request from your repo and your ubuntu webapps branch to my ubuntu-discourse branch | 21:36 |
| aquarius | OK. I believe I have just done that. | 21:37 |
| aquarius | I have only the dimmest understanding of what I've done, there, but I think I've got it. :) | 21:37 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: yup! I just got the proposal | 21:37 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, to be clear: I do not have a local discourse install! So I can't test this. I can't even test that it's free of syntax errors. | 21:37 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: no problem, I'll test before I merge | 21:37 |
| aquarius | I do not like proposing merges under these circumstances. :) | 21:38 |
| aquarius | but needs must, etc, etc. | 21:38 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: So let me know when/if you're going to hack on this again you'll follow a /slightly/ different workflow | 21:38 |
| marcoceppi | just ever so slightly | 21:38 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, sure thing | 21:38 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, let me know if it works ;) | 21:38 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: we'll find out tomorrow when I roll it out ;) | 21:39 |
| aquarius | (every branch is a new folder. that makes sense to me. I love bzr. :( ) | 21:39 |
| marcoceppi | heh, every branch is a bunch of jumbled meta data that, when switching context, re-writes your entire current staging area with the files from that 'branch' ;) | 21:40 |
| * aquarius lagughs | 21:41 | |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, I am hoping that you will have a chance to at least vaguely check the branch works before rolling it out ;) | 21:42 |
| marcoceppi | psh, what's the fun of testing if you can'd debug in production :D | 21:42 |
| * aquarius laughs | 21:42 | |
| jcastro | http://www.troll.me/images/the-most-interesting-man-in-the-world/i-dont-always-test-my-code-but-when-i-do-i-do-it-in-production.jpg | 21:43 |
| aquarius | it is quite possible that I am, for example, including my script before jQuery gets included, so it'll blow up. Or something equally stupid. I am totally unclear on whether I've understood the script inclusion stuff properly :) | 21:43 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: all script inclusions are done explictly. So I think I'm going to have to add this to the template. | 21:44 |
| * marcoceppi is checking now | 21:44 | |
| aquarius | it include_tree's external/. So I think my script will get picked up as well | 21:45 |
| aquarius | also because it is named ubuntu-webapps-discourse.js, it's near the end of the alphabet ;) | 21:45 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: yeah, just verified it shows up at the bottom of the list after jquery, etc | 21:49 |
| aquarius | haha! so that trick worked, at least :) | 21:50 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: cool everything still works | 21:51 |
| aquarius | really? | 21:51 |
| marcoceppi | yup :D | 21:51 |
| aquarius | and this is merged against clean, not against the earlier changes you made? | 21:51 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: correct, this is a clean merge against my mirror of the discourse upstream | 21:51 |
| aquarius | yeaaaah! who needs a javascript engine! propose merges without even running them, that's the answer. | 21:52 |
| aquarius | I am pleasantly surprised that it worked. :) | 21:52 |
| marcoceppi | Now I need to put on my pretend graphics designer hat to bang out an apple-icon | 21:55 |
| jcastro | just steal the ubuntu one | 21:56 |
| === glebihan__ is now known as glebihan | ||
| aquarius | I'd suggest colouring the existing one | 21:57 |
| aquarius | don't use the Ubuntu one; then you can't tell the difference between Ubuntu and the Ubuntu discourse site :) | 21:57 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: I was thinking about putting the ubuntu logo inside the Discourse D | 22:00 |
| marcoceppi | as to differentiate discourse, from Ubuntu, but let people know what it was | 22:00 |
| aquarius | I'll have a play around in Inkscape. You do too, and we'll see who's best ;) | 22:00 |
| * marcoceppi hatches a plan to do minimal work on this and defer to you as the best icon | 22:01 | |
| mhall119 | marcoceppi: aquarius: just post on Google+ how cool it would be if somebody made you one, and either Georgi or Sam will probably have one ready in 10 minutes | 22:07 |
| marcoceppi | mhall119: I'll give that a shot | 22:14 |
| aquarius | ok, I have a proposal :) | 22:21 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: I'm all eyes | 22:26 |
| mhall119 | marcoceppi: told ya that would work :) | 22:29 |
| aquarius | gnaah | 22:29 |
| aquarius | where do I temporarily put an svg? | 22:29 |
| aquarius | since U1 is refusing to upload things. :( | 22:29 |
| mhall119 | ubuntu one? | 22:29 |
| * mhall119 feels awkward having to suggest that to aquarius | 22:30 | |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: pastebin ;) | 22:30 |
| * aquarius looks crossly at syncdaemon. It's not uploading the file; it's just sat there in the queue. | 22:30 | |
| mhall119 | aquarius: is this what happens to non-canonical accounts? | 22:30 |
| aquarius | I hope not. | 22:30 |
| * aquarius looks jolly angry | 22:31 | |
| mhall119 | heh, only an Englishman could successfully pull off both jolly and angry | 22:31 |
| aquarius | http://kryogenix.org/random/ubuntu-discourse-icon.svg | 22:32 |
| aquarius | I hate having to do that. It's not an approach available to ordinary people. | 22:32 |
| mhall119 | so he uploads it to his blog, lol | 22:32 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: well it's by in large anything better than what I would have done | 22:34 |
| marcoceppi | I'll wait to see what same & co come up with | 22:34 |
| aquarius | marcoceppi, obviously, if you find that acceptable and someone with art skills doesn't come up with anything better, you'll need to make a 144x144 png out of it :) | 22:34 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius: ack! Thanks again for your help | 22:35 |
| aquarius | I suspect, but have not tested, that iOS won't use an SVG as the touch icon :) | 22:35 |
| aquarius | (and I don't know what our icon guidance is. I wish the webapps stuff used touch icons as the default icon if you don't specify one. And I wish the documentation suggested doing so rather than installing an icon in the theme.) | 22:36 |
| marcoceppi | aquarius probably not, I'll just roll with a png to support those "other" devices | 22:36 |
| aquarius | yeah | 22:37 |
| jono | jcastro, http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/06/17/simplifying-app-websites-with-juju/ | 22:46 |
| jono | can you reddit that on /r/Ubuntu ? | 22:46 |
| jcastro | yes! I get the good one! | 22:48 |
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