/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/06/17/#ubuntu-gnome.txt

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ray_Greetings Ubuntu gnome team!04:48
blu_Hi!!04:48
ray_Just like to ask if Gnome classic mode will be available to Ubuntu Gnome sometime soon?04:49
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Dark_lightRegarding the double online accounts entry isn't it as simple as removing canonical's patches changing the required deps and rebuilding the packages?12:13
Paper-bathi all12:38
Paper-batI'm interested in this project, there is a way to help the ubuntu-gnome community? I'm a web developer12:40
back_i have a question for all who have nvidia card with properietary drivers. Maybe this is litle bit noob question. But i want to know if you start computer and then run xrandr -s 0 to console what happens. If nothing, or changing resolution, or resolution no change but screen blink12:52
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back_have anyone problem with shuting down and restarting ubuntu? I mean i i restart or shutdown ubuntu 13.04 from panel, ubuntu stops restarting or shuting and olny freeze to black screen.14:00
back_it is clean instalation of 64bit14:00
back_how can i show or hide messages when ubuntu starts/poweroff14:03
bjsnideri think esc will do that14:09
bjsnideryou're bascially just seeing what's in dmesg though, so you can check that14:11
back_bjsnider, i try the ESC key14:14
SonikkuAmericabjsnider: Huh? If back_ meant the dmesg stuff after the GRUB menu, that's editing /etc/default/grub14:17
bjsnideri think you can look at boot messages at boot time by hitting esc though14:18
bjsniderhaqve you tried it?14:18
SonikkuAmericabjsnider: Now I need to try that...14:18
back_bjsnider, esc not working but i remeber in 12.04 esc works.-.. but now i have new faster pc. If i try to reboot or shutdown this is very fast  when pc freeze. There is no time to showing something14:19
bjsnideryeah that would be a problem if it's freezing so fast that you can't capture any info14:19
SonikkuAmericabjsnider: Nope... didn't work14:20
back_bjsnider, yes it is problem i also trying to solve this problem in our language linux forum but i dot have idea how to get some information what is wrong :/... but also i see more people over internet have this problem.14:21
back_it is not problem only GNOME derivate -in my opinion14:22
bjsnider"Plymouth hides boot messages. To view boot messages, press the Esc key during boot, or view them in /var/log/boot.log after boot up."14:22
bjsniderhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth14:23
bjsnidersays esc works14:24
back_bjsnider,  boot.log -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774106/14:25
back_but this is boot log :D for me will be better poweroff log :D14:26
back_all is too much fast there is no time to nothing :/14:35
bjsniderif you can't shut down properly, you could try it from a tty. there could be some useful stdout/stderr14:36
back_yes i know it and i try it.. if i do that from tty... then14:37
bjsniderif you switch using ctrl+alt+f1 for example, then log in, then do sudo shutdown now14:37
back_fast start GDM -i have also time to login if i am also fast.. then restarting or power off. From TTY i  have luck with poweroff or rebooting.14:38
back_bjsnider, i know that you thing and i try it.14:38
back_but instead text mode- starts GDM14:39
back_stats after halt,poweroff,reboot commnad.14:39
back_just quick but starts14:39
back_maybe i must wait few weeks then come some actualization and all will be fine :D14:40
bjsnideryour uneasy command of english is making it tough to tell what the problem is14:41
back_yes i know my english is not perfect.14:42
back_the problem is if i try to poweroff or restart pc from GNOME panel. then i get black screen and pc freeze.14:43
bjsnidermouse doesn't work?14:44
bjsniderif you touch the num lock key does hte light come on/off?14:44
back_num lock-leds no work if i on/off it..14:47
back_pc freeze and nothing to do.14:47
back_mouse?? when mause must work? if i  poweroff or reboot session is closed- it is fast but xserver must be stoped14:49
back_it is one-two second after click on reboot/off then blink screen and is black. Thats end.14:50
bjsniderif the num lock keys don't respond that's almost always a hard lockup. so, when you ask the system to go down it hard locks14:51
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back_and what can i do?14:53
bjsniderwhat graphics hardware do you have?14:55
back_nvidia 8800GTS 320MB14:56
bjsniderit shuts down fine from the tty?14:56
bjsniderthis problem does not happen from the tty?14:57
back_problem has not yet appeared in TTY- I do not spend much time but i did attempt14:59
bjsniderare you using the blob or nouveau to drive the gpu?15:00
back_properietary from xedgers lauchpad15:01
bjsnideruh huh15:01
bjsnidergee, i wonder if that could possibly be the problem15:01
back_hmm i can try switch to nouveau15:02
bjsniderthere's a bigger problem than that15:08
bjsniderxorg-edgers pulls in a lot of unstable cutting edge xorg/mesa stuff15:08
back_bjsnider, i go try nouveau15:14
bjsniderwell it may require you to ppa-purge xorg-edgers too15:15
dale_Is it possible to install ubuntu gnome without blowing away my pre-existing /home and /usr/local dedicated partitions?15:27
jbichadale_: the installer can preserve /home; I believe you'll need to restore from a backup for /usr/local but I'm not sure about it15:33
back_bjsnider, maybe it is nvidia driver... i try nouveau and it works(i mean restart and poweroff)16:00
back_but nouveau driver is so *****  first boot with driver i have monitor divided into two areas, In second boot i dont have shutdown-button in gnome applet, if i try to logout i canot back login in GDM becouse it is not typing nothing... but TAB key works... :D nonsense :D and if i forgot on all artefact what i see.  But funtioned restart/shutdown :D16:06
bjsniderback_, are yo using the edgers nouveau or the stable one?17:26
back_i dont know.. i go back to nvidia properietary driver. I dont want to use nouveau(I think the driver for the graphic card is very specific software and it is importat that it provedes the producer) i have nVidia Geforce 8800GTS- in few years back it was very good highend card. If i want to use only 2D graphic then i can take something cheap.17:32
bjsniderwell, if you added the edgers ppa you realize it replaced the whole xorg/mesa stable stack with unstable packages?17:33
back_and also all previous skills with open graphic drivers was be nightmare.. I remeber more years ago i have radeon 9200 for this card exist 3 kind of drivers but one was wors then another:D17:33
bjsnideryeah, well amd sucks17:34
bjsniderso you're preaching to the choir17:34
back_bjsnider, hmm i dont have any problems before with nvidia 8800gts.. only in ubuntu 13.0417:35
back_this is first time when i have problem with nvidia card.17:35
back_and long years i use only drivers from nvidia.17:36
distilledchaosclear22:02
distilledchaosoops >.>22:02
distilledchaosI can't login, I think because I upgraded using the gnome3 ppa22:02
distilledchaosI can't interact with anything graphical22:03
distilledchaosbut i can switch ttys22:03
jbichadistilledchaos: the instructions for the ppa say that you should run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade22:06
distilledchaosjbicha: i'll give that a shot22:07
distilledchaosthat worked22:31
distilledchaosthanks!22:31
distilledchaosexit22:31

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