=== axis is now known as Guest20815 === SonikkuAmerica is now known as F40PH_ === F40PH_ is now known as SonikkuAmerica [04:48] Greetings Ubuntu gnome team! [04:48] Hi!! [04:49] Just like to ask if Gnome classic mode will be available to Ubuntu Gnome sometime soon? === tommie-lie1 is now known as tommie-lie === tommie-lie1 is now known as tommie-lie [12:13] Regarding the double online accounts entry isn't it as simple as removing canonical's patches changing the required deps and rebuilding the packages? [12:38] hi all [12:40] I'm interested in this project, there is a way to help the ubuntu-gnome community? I'm a web developer [12:52] i have a question for all who have nvidia card with properietary drivers. Maybe this is litle bit noob question. But i want to know if you start computer and then run xrandr -s 0 to console what happens. If nothing, or changing resolution, or resolution no change but screen blink === tommie-lie1 is now known as tommie-lie [14:00] have anyone problem with shuting down and restarting ubuntu? I mean i i restart or shutdown ubuntu 13.04 from panel, ubuntu stops restarting or shuting and olny freeze to black screen. [14:00] it is clean instalation of 64bit [14:03] how can i show or hide messages when ubuntu starts/poweroff [14:09] i think esc will do that [14:11] you're bascially just seeing what's in dmesg though, so you can check that [14:14] bjsnider, i try the ESC key [14:17] bjsnider: Huh? If back_ meant the dmesg stuff after the GRUB menu, that's editing /etc/default/grub [14:18] i think you can look at boot messages at boot time by hitting esc though [14:18] haqve you tried it? [14:18] bjsnider: Now I need to try that... [14:19] bjsnider, esc not working but i remeber in 12.04 esc works.-.. but now i have new faster pc. If i try to reboot or shutdown this is very fast when pc freeze. There is no time to showing something [14:19] yeah that would be a problem if it's freezing so fast that you can't capture any info [14:20] bjsnider: Nope... didn't work [14:21] bjsnider, yes it is problem i also trying to solve this problem in our language linux forum but i dot have idea how to get some information what is wrong :/... but also i see more people over internet have this problem. [14:22] it is not problem only GNOME derivate -in my opinion [14:22] "Plymouth hides boot messages. To view boot messages, press the Esc key during boot, or view them in /var/log/boot.log after boot up." [14:23] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth [14:24] says esc works [14:25] bjsnider, boot.log -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774106/ [14:26] but this is boot log :D for me will be better poweroff log :D [14:35] all is too much fast there is no time to nothing :/ [14:36] if you can't shut down properly, you could try it from a tty. there could be some useful stdout/stderr [14:37] yes i know it and i try it.. if i do that from tty... then [14:37] if you switch using ctrl+alt+f1 for example, then log in, then do sudo shutdown now [14:38] fast start GDM -i have also time to login if i am also fast.. then restarting or power off. From TTY i have luck with poweroff or rebooting. [14:38] bjsnider, i know that you thing and i try it. [14:39] but instead text mode- starts GDM [14:39] stats after halt,poweroff,reboot commnad. [14:39] just quick but starts [14:40] maybe i must wait few weeks then come some actualization and all will be fine :D [14:41] your uneasy command of english is making it tough to tell what the problem is [14:42] yes i know my english is not perfect. [14:43] the problem is if i try to poweroff or restart pc from GNOME panel. then i get black screen and pc freeze. [14:44] mouse doesn't work? [14:44] if you touch the num lock key does hte light come on/off? [14:47] num lock-leds no work if i on/off it.. [14:47] pc freeze and nothing to do. [14:49] mouse?? when mause must work? if i poweroff or reboot session is closed- it is fast but xserver must be stoped [14:50] it is one-two second after click on reboot/off then blink screen and is black. Thats end. [14:51] if the num lock keys don't respond that's almost always a hard lockup. so, when you ask the system to go down it hard locks === aciremAukkinoS is now known as SonikkuAmerica [14:53] and what can i do? [14:55] what graphics hardware do you have? [14:56] nvidia 8800GTS 320MB [14:56] it shuts down fine from the tty? [14:57] this problem does not happen from the tty? [14:59] problem has not yet appeared in TTY- I do not spend much time but i did attempt [15:00] are you using the blob or nouveau to drive the gpu? [15:01] properietary from xedgers lauchpad [15:01] uh huh [15:01] gee, i wonder if that could possibly be the problem [15:02] hmm i can try switch to nouveau [15:08] there's a bigger problem than that [15:08] xorg-edgers pulls in a lot of unstable cutting edge xorg/mesa stuff [15:14] bjsnider, i go try nouveau [15:15] well it may require you to ppa-purge xorg-edgers too [15:27] Is it possible to install ubuntu gnome without blowing away my pre-existing /home and /usr/local dedicated partitions? [15:33] dale_: the installer can preserve /home; I believe you'll need to restore from a backup for /usr/local but I'm not sure about it [16:00] bjsnider, maybe it is nvidia driver... i try nouveau and it works(i mean restart and poweroff) [16:06] but nouveau driver is so ***** first boot with driver i have monitor divided into two areas, In second boot i dont have shutdown-button in gnome applet, if i try to logout i canot back login in GDM becouse it is not typing nothing... but TAB key works... :D nonsense :D and if i forgot on all artefact what i see. But funtioned restart/shutdown :D [17:26] back_, are yo using the edgers nouveau or the stable one? [17:32] i dont know.. i go back to nvidia properietary driver. I dont want to use nouveau(I think the driver for the graphic card is very specific software and it is importat that it provedes the producer) i have nVidia Geforce 8800GTS- in few years back it was very good highend card. If i want to use only 2D graphic then i can take something cheap. [17:33] well, if you added the edgers ppa you realize it replaced the whole xorg/mesa stable stack with unstable packages? [17:33] and also all previous skills with open graphic drivers was be nightmare.. I remeber more years ago i have radeon 9200 for this card exist 3 kind of drivers but one was wors then another:D [17:34] yeah, well amd sucks [17:34] so you're preaching to the choir [17:35] bjsnider, hmm i dont have any problems before with nvidia 8800gts.. only in ubuntu 13.04 [17:35] this is first time when i have problem with nvidia card. [17:36] and long years i use only drivers from nvidia. [22:02] clear [22:02] oops >.> [22:02] I can't login, I think because I upgraded using the gnome3 ppa [22:03] I can't interact with anything graphical [22:03] but i can switch ttys [22:06] distilledchaos: the instructions for the ppa say that you should run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [22:07] jbicha: i'll give that a shot [22:31] that worked [22:31] thanks! [22:31] exit