[04:48] <ray_> Greetings Ubuntu gnome team!
[04:48] <blu_> Hi!!
[04:49] <ray_> Just like to ask if Gnome classic mode will be available to Ubuntu Gnome sometime soon?
[12:13] <Dark_light> Regarding the double online accounts entry isn't it as simple as removing canonical's patches changing the required deps and rebuilding the packages?
[12:38] <Paper-bat> hi all
[12:40] <Paper-bat> I'm interested in this project, there is a way to help the ubuntu-gnome community? I'm a web developer
[12:52] <back_> i have a question for all who have nvidia card with properietary drivers. Maybe this is litle bit noob question. But i want to know if you start computer and then run xrandr -s 0 to console what happens. If nothing, or changing resolution, or resolution no change but screen blink
[14:00] <back_> have anyone problem with shuting down and restarting ubuntu? I mean i i restart or shutdown ubuntu 13.04 from panel, ubuntu stops restarting or shuting and olny freeze to black screen.
[14:00] <back_> it is clean instalation of 64bit
[14:03] <back_> how can i show or hide messages when ubuntu starts/poweroff
[14:09] <bjsnider> i think esc will do that
[14:11] <bjsnider> you're bascially just seeing what's in dmesg though, so you can check that
[14:14] <back_> bjsnider, i try the ESC key
[14:17] <SonikkuAmerica> bjsnider: Huh? If back_ meant the dmesg stuff after the GRUB menu, that's editing /etc/default/grub
[14:18] <bjsnider> i think you can look at boot messages at boot time by hitting esc though
[14:18] <bjsnider> haqve you tried it?
[14:18] <SonikkuAmerica> bjsnider: Now I need to try that...
[14:19] <back_> bjsnider, esc not working but i remeber in 12.04 esc works.-.. but now i have new faster pc. If i try to reboot or shutdown this is very fast  when pc freeze. There is no time to showing something
[14:19] <bjsnider> yeah that would be a problem if it's freezing so fast that you can't capture any info
[14:20] <SonikkuAmerica> bjsnider: Nope... didn't work
[14:21] <back_> bjsnider, yes it is problem i also trying to solve this problem in our language linux forum but i dot have idea how to get some information what is wrong :/... but also i see more people over internet have this problem.
[14:22] <back_> it is not problem only GNOME derivate -in my opinion
[14:22] <bjsnider> "Plymouth hides boot messages. To view boot messages, press the Esc key during boot, or view them in /var/log/boot.log after boot up."
[14:23] <bjsnider> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Plymouth
[14:24] <bjsnider> says esc works
[14:25] <back_> bjsnider,  boot.log -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774106/
[14:26] <back_> but this is boot log :D for me will be better poweroff log :D
[14:35] <back_> all is too much fast there is no time to nothing :/
[14:36] <bjsnider> if you can't shut down properly, you could try it from a tty. there could be some useful stdout/stderr
[14:37] <back_> yes i know it and i try it.. if i do that from tty... then
[14:37] <bjsnider> if you switch using ctrl+alt+f1 for example, then log in, then do sudo shutdown now
[14:38] <back_> fast start GDM -i have also time to login if i am also fast.. then restarting or power off. From TTY i  have luck with poweroff or rebooting.
[14:38] <back_> bjsnider, i know that you thing and i try it.
[14:39] <back_> but instead text mode- starts GDM
[14:39] <back_> stats after halt,poweroff,reboot commnad.
[14:39] <back_> just quick but starts
[14:40] <back_> maybe i must wait few weeks then come some actualization and all will be fine :D
[14:41] <bjsnider> your uneasy command of english is making it tough to tell what the problem is
[14:42] <back_> yes i know my english is not perfect.
[14:43] <back_> the problem is if i try to poweroff or restart pc from GNOME panel. then i get black screen and pc freeze.
[14:44] <bjsnider> mouse doesn't work?
[14:44] <bjsnider> if you touch the num lock key does hte light come on/off?
[14:47] <back_> num lock-leds no work if i on/off it..
[14:47] <back_> pc freeze and nothing to do.
[14:49] <back_> mouse?? when mause must work? if i  poweroff or reboot session is closed- it is fast but xserver must be stoped
[14:50] <back_> it is one-two second after click on reboot/off then blink screen and is black. Thats end.
[14:51] <bjsnider> if the num lock keys don't respond that's almost always a hard lockup. so, when you ask the system to go down it hard locks
[14:53] <back_> and what can i do?
[14:55] <bjsnider> what graphics hardware do you have?
[14:56] <back_> nvidia 8800GTS 320MB
[14:56] <bjsnider> it shuts down fine from the tty?
[14:57] <bjsnider> this problem does not happen from the tty?
[14:59] <back_> problem has not yet appeared in TTY- I do not spend much time but i did attempt
[15:00] <bjsnider> are you using the blob or nouveau to drive the gpu?
[15:01] <back_> properietary from xedgers lauchpad
[15:01] <bjsnider> uh huh
[15:01] <bjsnider> gee, i wonder if that could possibly be the problem
[15:02] <back_> hmm i can try switch to nouveau
[15:08] <bjsnider> there's a bigger problem than that
[15:08] <bjsnider> xorg-edgers pulls in a lot of unstable cutting edge xorg/mesa stuff
[15:14] <back_> bjsnider, i go try nouveau
[15:15] <bjsnider> well it may require you to ppa-purge xorg-edgers too
[15:27] <dale_> Is it possible to install ubuntu gnome without blowing away my pre-existing /home and /usr/local dedicated partitions?
[15:33] <jbicha> dale_: the installer can preserve /home; I believe you'll need to restore from a backup for /usr/local but I'm not sure about it
[16:00] <back_> bjsnider, maybe it is nvidia driver... i try nouveau and it works(i mean restart and poweroff)
[16:06] <back_> but nouveau driver is so *****  first boot with driver i have monitor divided into two areas, In second boot i dont have shutdown-button in gnome applet, if i try to logout i canot back login in GDM becouse it is not typing nothing... but TAB key works... :D nonsense :D and if i forgot on all artefact what i see.  But funtioned restart/shutdown :D
[17:26] <bjsnider> back_, are yo using the edgers nouveau or the stable one?
[17:32] <back_> i dont know.. i go back to nvidia properietary driver. I dont want to use nouveau(I think the driver for the graphic card is very specific software and it is importat that it provedes the producer) i have nVidia Geforce 8800GTS- in few years back it was very good highend card. If i want to use only 2D graphic then i can take something cheap.
[17:33] <bjsnider> well, if you added the edgers ppa you realize it replaced the whole xorg/mesa stable stack with unstable packages?
[17:33] <back_> and also all previous skills with open graphic drivers was be nightmare.. I remeber more years ago i have radeon 9200 for this card exist 3 kind of drivers but one was wors then another:D
[17:34] <bjsnider> yeah, well amd sucks
[17:34] <bjsnider> so you're preaching to the choir
[17:35] <back_> bjsnider, hmm i dont have any problems before with nvidia 8800gts.. only in ubuntu 13.04
[17:35] <back_> this is first time when i have problem with nvidia card.
[17:36] <back_> and long years i use only drivers from nvidia.
[22:02] <distilledchaos> clear
[22:02] <distilledchaos> oops >.>
[22:02] <distilledchaos> I can't login, I think because I upgraded using the gnome3 ppa
[22:03] <distilledchaos> I can't interact with anything graphical
[22:03] <distilledchaos> but i can switch ttys
[22:06] <jbicha> distilledchaos: the instructions for the ppa say that you should run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:07] <distilledchaos> jbicha: i'll give that a shot
[22:31] <distilledchaos> that worked
[22:31] <distilledchaos> thanks!
[22:31] <distilledchaos> exit