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knightwise | mornin ! | 06:36 |
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knightwise | hey TheOpenSourcerer ! | 06:40 |
TheOpenSourcerer | morning | 06:40 |
knightwise | how are you today | 06:42 |
TheOpenSourcerer | Fine thanks. In the office already. Coffee #2 underway | 06:45 |
knightwise | I should probablu look into that too | 06:57 |
popey | morning | 07:01 |
knightwise | popey: are you familiar with reports that 13.04 is considered "slower to beoot" then 12.04 ? | 07:03 |
popey | knightwise: nope | 07:14 |
knightwise | hmm .. must be me then. i'll give it another try tonight (running ubuntu on the macbook air) | 07:20 |
czajkowski | aloha | 07:24 |
Gary | hey everybody! | 07:25 |
Gary | My name is troy McClure, you may know me from other documentries such as "how to tame your trouser snake" and "what to do in the case the zombies take over" | 07:26 |
popey | knightwise: is this a machine which has had 12.04 and 13.04 on it ? | 07:27 |
popey | i.e. comparing apples with apples (lol) | 07:27 |
knightwise | correct | 07:30 |
kvarley-work | 13.04 64 bit - Dell Inspiron 14z - On some boots the audio stops working and just lists "Dummy Output". I think it may be related to me using HDMI. Any ideas on how to fix this? | 08:01 |
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popey | kvarley-work: i have seen that sometimes | 08:10 |
popey | can you restart pulseaudio, does it then work? "pulseaudio -k" | 08:11 |
kvarley-work | popey: Doesn't appear to fix it. I've seen some threads suggesting it's a kernel issue | 08:11 |
popey | http://askubuntu.com/questions/294016/no-sound-in-ubuntu-13-04-only-dummy-output-device-listed | 08:12 |
DJones | kvarley-work: popey: I've had the same issue on my laptop using internal sound on a HP laptop, a reboot seems to fix it | 08:17 |
JamesTait | Good morning all, happy Eat Your Vegetables Day! :-D | 08:36 |
* DJones eats bacon as its a fruit of the pig | 08:37 | |
diplo | Morning all | 08:42 |
diplo | Oooh I had that issue kvarley-work / popey | 08:43 |
diplo | I have a bug open, not been in my pc recently though to look at it. | 08:43 |
bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 08:44 |
diplo | Morning bigcalm | 08:45 |
* bigcalm can smell the coffee! | 08:46 | |
bigcalm | But will it wake me up? | 08:46 |
diplo | Irssi users, in my channels I have letters/numbers assigned to channels, so t = 15 and so I do alt t to show that window | 08:46 |
diplo | Channel # 20/21 don't have a number / letter assigned to them so I can change | 08:46 |
hd5770 | god damn ubuntu | 08:50 |
SuperMatt | diplo: you can do /win <number> | 09:00 |
SuperMatt | of course, you could also alias /w to /win | 09:00 |
SuperMatt | or what I've done in the past /1 goes to window 1, /2 window 2, etc | 09:01 |
SuperMatt | so create an alias of /20 which runs /win 20 | 09:01 |
diplo | kk ta, will look up aliases shortly | 09:02 |
SuperMatt | I don't know how you can cope to be in so many channels though | 09:02 |
diplo | :D | 09:02 |
diplo | I used to be in 5/6 | 09:02 |
SuperMatt | I start closing down everything I'm not looking at at least a couple of times a day | 09:03 |
diplo | I don't read in others that often, but what I've found is I've found out loads of useful stuff by idling in some | 09:03 |
christel | diplo: you can just alias them to whatever shortcuts you want | 09:03 |
christel | i just do /number for 1-500 :s | 09:04 |
diplo | Never needed it till now :) ta | 09:04 |
brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 09:07 |
knightwise | hey brobostigon | 09:10 |
brobostigon | hey knightwise | 09:10 |
bigcalm | Can an alias be a regex? Like /\d? | 09:25 |
SuperMatt | huh, there was a fix in fail2ban which hasn't been sent downstream yet | 09:27 |
SuperMatt | oh, it's hit saucy, but not precise | 09:28 |
diplo | Any LDAP experts/knowledgable people in here ? | 09:38 |
mungbean | not very | 09:39 |
mungbean | just working knowledge | 09:39 |
diplo | I'm basically just trying to set up a system at work | 09:39 |
diplo | But want advice on how to structure it | 09:39 |
diplo | My googling seems to be confusing me more than enlightening me :) | 09:39 |
mungbean | you might save time to setup a zimbra server and see how it does it for you :) | 09:40 |
diplo | Will take a look at that as well then I guess | 09:41 |
diplo | What do you store in your ldap db mungbean ? | 09:44 |
mungbean | passwd , nfs mounts | 09:47 |
mungbean | autohome info | 09:47 |
mungbean | e.g. desktop user can type /misc/mathematica and auto mounts that dir and runs the application | 09:48 |
diplo | OK, more than I was going to use ours for :) | 09:49 |
mungbean | just passwd then? | 09:49 |
diplo | More going to be for contact information/logins etc for internal systems | 09:50 |
diplo | And storing customer info etc | 09:50 |
diplo | So I want to point our phone system at the ldap, our bug software/faq software etc | 09:50 |
diplo | So that data is consistent across all of our applications etc | 09:51 |
mungbean | ah ok, there's some howtos out there for it | 09:51 |
mungbean | did that abotu 10yr ago though | 09:51 |
diplo | yeah, they're all a bit different, no real consistency.. my main Q is how I should structure it I guess | 09:52 |
mgdm | I stopped doing LDAP stuff right around when OpenLDAP moved all its config inside the LDAP tree | 09:52 |
diplo | Can't think of any other way for the phone to interact.. can get round all the other issues apart from that | 09:58 |
advancedgarde | For anyone who is aware of my earlier post (or interested) I let badblocks run in read only-mode, no errors detected. Smart still shows 65535 sectors pending remapping - so I feel this strengthens the case for a firmware but. I'm going to run a low level format using WingDLG and I'll post back on here if I have any success. | 10:49 |
Darael | mgdm: (a little late) There's a reason there was a post in the Monastery a couple of years ago with subject "LDAP" and (entirety of) body "can [sod] off." | 11:13 |
mgdm | :D | 11:14 |
Darael | Well, there are several. One of them is that the Scary Devil Monastery is inhabited by grouchy sysadmins, but that isn't what I meant. | 11:14 |
mgdm | That became my assessment, too. I know enough to build a mail server with it, and perhaps some Asterisk stuff, and the entire time I did it I was thinking "Why can't I just use a DB with SQL?" | 11:14 |
mgdm | I'm not aware of this Monastery, but i suspect I'd get on with some of their opinions | 11:15 |
Darael | Few are who don't frequent Usenet. And how many do that, these days? | 11:15 |
mgdm | It's been more than a a couple of years for me sadly | 11:17 |
DJones | Right, its officially summer, just had a dodgy looking white van driven past the office with "Whigfield - Saturday night" blasting out of the speakers & windows | 11:23 |
mgdm | oh my | 11:23 |
mgdm | </takei> | 11:23 |
DJones | To complete the sentance, 'Oh my aching head' :) | 11:23 |
popey | watched Star Trek II the other day. When I saw Takei on screen my gut reaction was to lower my voice and say "Oh myyyyyy!" | 11:24 |
mgdm | \o/ | 11:24 |
mgdm | I need to watch the original ST II again | 11:32 |
mgdm | not seen it since the new one | 11:32 |
brobostigon | yes, 2/3/4 are definatly the best ones. | 11:33 |
brobostigon | wrath,search,voyage. | 11:33 |
mgdm | I like 6 too | 11:35 |
brobostigon | undiscovered country? | 11:35 |
mgdm | Yeah | 11:37 |
brobostigon | my favorite of the TNG films, is certainly first contact. | 11:37 |
popey | yeah, i liked first contact too | 11:40 |
mgdm | aye | 11:40 |
brobostigon | jonathen frakes injected some good humour into it, like nimoy did in voyage home. | 11:41 |
advancedgarde | Oh cool, star trek fans ^^ | 11:42 |
advancedgarde | I've been watching TOS films in order prior to watching into darkness | 11:42 |
advancedgarde | I'm on generations at the moment. | 11:44 |
popey | I'm going the other way, i watched Into Darkness recently, now going back over the old ones | 11:44 |
advancedgarde | Not many of my friends seem interested in watching into darkness - so that's one of the main reasons I've not seen it yet. | 11:46 |
advancedgarde | Seeing Man of Steel tonight. | 11:46 |
popey | i watched Into Darkness with daviey while waiting for my car to be fixed | 11:48 |
* popey notes daviey isnt here | 11:48 | |
bigcalm | We all know that the film of 2013 will be Despicable Me 2 | 11:48 |
advancedgarde | I'm new on ubuntu-uk IRC so I don't know many people here. | 11:48 |
popey | advancedgarde: welcome ☻ | 11:49 |
bigcalm | advancedgarde: then stay longer :) | 11:49 |
popey | we dont have many in real life meet ups | 11:49 |
popey | but a few here and there | 11:49 |
* popey pokes AlanBell | 11:49 | |
bigcalm | Mmmmmmmmm, ale | 11:49 |
* popey wonders if the team needs a kick in the butt | 11:49 | |
knightwise | popey: did you like into darkness ? | 11:50 |
bigcalm | RAT then oggcamp and my wedding. what else do we need? | 11:50 |
advancedgarde | Thank you ^^ I will attempt to do so. I want to get more failure with ubuntu over the summer. I switched to ubuntu from BSD in ... 2008 for the home server. I also use it to fix my (and friends) windows machines when they die, but I'm not currently using is as a day to day desktop OS/ | 11:51 |
* bigcalm notes that tickets have sold out for the RAT in September | 11:52 | |
popey | knightwise: yup | 11:52 |
popey | bigcalm: my tickets finally arrived | 11:53 |
popey | after i got them to send me reprints | 11:53 |
bigcalm | popey: phew! | 11:53 |
bigcalm | popey: The rotters | 11:53 |
advancedgarde | I need to go now, I have to go to uxbridge to drop off my old house keys. | 11:55 |
christel | popey: we should do a brewery tour! | 11:56 |
christel | (she says, inspired by spending friday evening at the hogsback brewery) | 11:56 |
christel | (they were very generous with their ale...) | 11:56 |
christel | (and i presume alan will do an ubuntubbq soonish) | 11:57 |
bigcalm | Distillery tour of Scotland! | 11:57 |
christel | bigcalm: ok, you're driving the minibus so we can all drink between distilleries! | 11:57 |
christel | <3 | 11:57 |
bigcalm | christel: you think we'll have the proper british weather for a bbq? | 11:57 |
popey | advancedgarde: ttfn | 11:57 |
christel | rain? yeah, i am sure we will! | 11:57 |
christel | :P | 11:57 |
bigcalm | :D | 11:57 |
bigcalm | I wonder if it would be worth my while getting minibus added to my driving licence | 11:58 |
davmor2 | bigcalm: but then you can't drink :P | 12:00 |
bigcalm | davmor2: ever again? | 12:00 |
davmor2 | bigcalm: no if you are driving the minibus | 12:01 |
bigcalm | I thought drinking while driving a minibus was a requirement | 12:01 |
davmor2 | bigcalm: just bribe me to drive it :D I already have the license and I don't drink :) | 12:02 |
bigcalm | What shall I get my soon to be 36yo sister? | 12:07 |
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christel | a minibus! | 12:08 |
bigcalm | o.O | 12:09 |
bigcalm | christel: have you been on the gin? | 12:09 |
bigcalm | I'm already on the wine | 12:11 |
bigcalm | It's a very recent vitage | 12:11 |
bigcalm | vintage | 12:11 |
bigcalm | They are still grapes *munch* | 12:12 |
christel | bigcalm: nej. i had some milk earlier, does that count? | 12:12 |
bigcalm | christel: "milk" eh? ;) | 12:12 |
christel | yus, ice-cold semi-skimmed cravendale, went perfectly with my pancakes for breakfast! | 12:12 |
hd5770 | man how do you install ubuntu alone side windows and both OS's happy | 12:17 |
DJones | hd5770: In what way do you get unhappy OS's? | 12:19 |
davmor2 | hd5770: what version of windows? | 12:19 |
hd5770 | win 7 i lose boot load for or the other | 12:20 |
DJones | hd5770: For Win 7, all I did was to use Win 7 to resize the Win partition, and then boot with a liveUSB letting that partition the freespace & install with grub on the single drive | 12:24 |
davmor2 | hd5770: what DJones said, Install win7, reduce it's partition size, then install Ubuntu into the free space, you will then see an ubuntu and windows listing in a grub menu just point to the one you want to run | 12:24 |
bigcalm | Or, if you have 2 harddrives, use one for windows and the other for ubuntu. Saves faffing about with resizing partitions | 12:27 |
DJones | Must admit, I can never bring myself to trust a linux installer to correctly shrink an NTFS partition without issues, I'd rather trust Windows (as a native format) to do that | 12:27 |
DJones | As bigcalm said, use two drives where possible, just make sure you put grub on the right boot drive | 12:28 |
popey | I've never had a problem resizing an NTFS partition in Linux | 12:30 |
DJones | I'm not saying I would have an issue, its not something I've tried, just a case using a native tool at the time, haven't needed to do it for a few years anyway | 12:33 |
ali1234 | i have seen linux ruin a NTFS partition just by mounting it | 12:34 |
bigcalm | But I've never seen an elephant fly | 12:51 |
* bigcalm lunches | 12:51 | |
* DJones passes bigcalm a Disney's Dumbo video | 12:53 | |
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hd5770 | damn i used ubuntu to do the resize | 13:25 |
hd5770 | now i got bad blocks on my ssd | 13:25 |
hd5770 | win7 loader is at /devb/sdg1 when i install grub there windows loader no longer works | 13:26 |
mungbean | how did it come to this? firefox regularly taking out my desktop for 15 mins due to disk trashing | 13:34 |
mungbean | and out of mem | 13:34 |
dubaco_1 | hi android not connecting via usb can anyone help? | 14:22 |
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ali1234 | gimp layer groups are broken to the point of being useless | 14:54 |
ali1234 | since they merge down their contents and then blend then with one operation | 14:54 |
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dogmatic69 | GTX 550 Ti is not plug and play :/ | 16:02 |
redtape|renegade | Double Click-ing makes 13.10 a Double-trouble O/S for Unity dash in Ubuntu.. http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-13-10-Wants-Users-to-Double-Click-Everything-in-Unity-s-Dash-361544.shtml | 16:04 |
redtape|renegade | leaves | 16:04 |
AlanBell | hmm, uninformed reporting on the development version | 16:05 |
MartijnVdS | AlanBell: Well that's never happened before | 16:05 |
AlanBell | hey look, today this happened! Is this a bug, is it a new feature? We have no idea, lets hit the publish button. | 16:06 |
MartijnVdS | alt+f2 is broken again too | 16:37 |
MartijnVdS | if you press Enter too quickly after typing a command, a random other command will run | 16:37 |
MartijnVdS | (well it seems random to me anyway) | 16:37 |
czajkowski | best client to use for gmail talk | 16:46 |
MartijnVdS | czajkowski: the Chrome extension | 16:49 |
MartijnVdS | czajkowski: otherwise you won't be able to use the group chat bits | 16:49 |
MartijnVdS | czajkowski: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hangouts/nckgahadagoaajjgafhacjanaoiihapd?utm_source=chrome-ntp-icon | 16:51 |
mgdm | the chrome extension is catastrophically annoying | 16:54 |
mgdm | (at least on OSX) | 16:55 |
popey | eats cpu | 16:55 |
popey | its common in hangouts to share one window, xsensors, showing 98 degrees | 16:55 |
mgdm | what do you call the thing that used to be in Crunchbang that shows various info on the desktop background? | 16:56 |
mgdm | Conky, that's it | 16:58 |
MartijnVdS | mgdm: an app that monitors all kinds of stats about your machine and puts it in a window | 16:58 |
MartijnVdS | and/or your background | 16:58 |
MartijnVdS | ah wait | 16:59 |
MartijnVdS | you already know that | 16:59 |
mgdm | Yeah, I know what it is, I was asking its name | 16:59 |
* MartijnVdS fails reading | 16:59 | |
mgdm | hehe | 16:59 |
* MartijnVdS will be going to the Spa GP \o/ | 16:59 | |
MartijnVdS | f1 | 16:59 |
mgdm | nice | 16:59 |
bigcalm | I used to use gkrellm for sensors and other graphs | 17:15 |
czajkowski | bah yeah I need it for group chats | 17:17 |
popey | surely you already had it installed? | 17:18 |
directhex | MartijnVdS, considering how close i live to silverstone, and most of the uk motorsport headquarters, i should care more about f1 | 17:19 |
czajkowski | boo This application is not supported on this computer. Installation has been disabled. | 17:23 |
czajkowski | brb | 17:23 |
* brobostigon is equally in proximity, but cares for c++ and controller programming, | 17:25 | |
brobostigon | interesting thing about north oxfordshire. | 17:28 |
knightwise | evening all | 18:24 |
knightwise | does anybody know their way around the grub rescue menu ? | 18:24 |
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knightwise | I moved some partitions around and now my Ubuntu won't boot any more :( | 18:26 |
SuperEngineer | erm - reinstall grub from live cd [or use boot-rescue live]? | 18:27 |
SuperEngineer | knightwise ^ | 18:27 |
knightwise | do I need the 12.04 live cd for that ? | 18:28 |
SuperEngineer | any live cd with relevant version of grub | 18:28 |
knightwise | looking for one now, holdon | 18:29 |
* SuperEngineer once resorted to using a copy of boot-rescue live cd... worked a treat] | 18:29 | |
SuperEngineer | but any relevant live cd with relevant grub | 18:30 |
knightwise | ok , got a linux mint live cd here | 18:30 |
knightwise | booting from it now | 18:30 |
SuperEngineer | should do fine | 18:30 |
knightwise | Thing is , i'm on a mac (dual booting osx and Ubuntu) and I resized (and moved around some partitions . | 18:31 |
knightwise | and now my ubuntu partition no longer boots | 18:31 |
SuperEngineer | ooooo | 18:31 |
knightwise | ok , i've booted up into the mint live cd | 18:31 |
SuperEngineer | never done this on a Mac | 18:31 |
knightwise | shouldn't make a difference , it boots with REFIT first and then chainloads to grub | 18:32 |
knightwise | and its jst the grub part thats broken. | 18:32 |
SuperEngineer | ok, but maybe wait for an answer from a mac user? | 18:32 |
knightwise | i've booted up into Linux Mint (live cd) .. now what do I do to reinstall grab | 18:33 |
knightwise | SuperEngineer: nono, not and issue , the issue at hand is a pure linux issue | 18:33 |
SuperEngineer | if you say so.. | 18:33 |
SuperEngineer | in which case... | 18:33 |
SuperEngineer | open a terminal | 18:33 |
SuperEngineer | .... | 18:33 |
knightwise | terminal open | 18:33 |
SuperEngineer | sudo grub-install /dev/sda ... but is that ok on a mac? | 18:34 |
knightwise | yep , thats ok | 18:35 |
SuperEngineer | cool! | 18:35 |
knightwise | i'll open up gparted first to see on what partion linux is installed | 18:35 |
SuperEngineer | wise | 18:35 |
knightwise | its on sda3 | 18:35 |
SuperEngineer | so /dev/sda it is | 18:36 |
knightwise | failed to get canonical path of /cow | 18:36 |
SuperEngineer | surely you don't install grub to a partition? | 18:36 |
knightwise | path /boot/grub is not readable by grub on boot installation is impossible | 18:36 |
knightwise | I install grub on the / partition mostly | 18:37 |
SuperEngineer | ermmm | 18:37 |
knightwise | no ? | 18:37 |
SuperEngineer | need advice from others really, personally I wouldn't install it to partition | 18:37 |
SuperEngineer | unless mac needs things that way? | 18:38 |
knightwise | the odd thing is , this used to work fine untill i did a resize with some partitions | 18:38 |
SuperEngineer | anyone watching this and able to confirm/deny? | 18:38 |
SuperEngineer | did the resize appear to go ok | 18:39 |
knightwise | yep , | 18:39 |
SuperEngineer | in which case... | 18:39 |
SuperEngineer | anyone watching this and able to confirm/deny install to disk v. install to partition | 18:40 |
knightwise | wel .. /sda3 is a disk right ? or a partition | 18:40 |
directhex | for dual booting on a mac, you should install grub to a partition header | 18:40 |
SuperEngineer | partition | 18:40 |
directhex | i.e. to sdaX, not sda | 18:40 |
knightwise | I installed it to sda3 | 18:40 |
SuperEngineer | directhex: thanks | 18:40 |
knightwise | I just used gparted to take a look at the partition and i remember it did give me an error that things could go pearshaped if you move the root partition | 18:45 |
knightwise | it also says there is a way to fix it , it just doesnt elaborate | 18:45 |
ali1234 | what's a program that works exactly like make, but is more powerful? | 18:50 |
ali1234 | specifically i need regular expression rule matching | 18:50 |
mgdm | ali1234: I like 'waf', in Python | 18:54 |
mgdm | as it's Python you can do what you want with regexes, i guess | 18:54 |
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Goshawk | Hi guys, my CD drive wont open. Just comes up with 'Inappropriate ioctl for device'. Any ideas? | 19:05 |
Darael | Goshawk: Hast tried it with the button that's presumably on it, or art using right-click/eject from the launcher? (Just trying to find out whether it's a pure software issue here) | 19:15 |
Goshawk | Darael: Have tried both ways | 19:17 |
Darael | Hmm. That *is* odd. | 19:17 |
mgdm | Oooh, hello | 19:19 |
mgdm | never had the MBA fan fire up before, until I started compiling GTK+ | 19:19 |
Darael | Oh, GTK+... | 19:20 |
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bigcalm | I appear to have lost the audio notification icon | 19:42 |
bigcalm | How irritating | 19:42 |
diplo | Recommendations of where to get SSL certs from ? | 20:06 |
diplo | Cheap* :) | 20:07 |
diplo | Personal site | 20:07 |
MartijnVdS | startssl | 20:07 |
MartijnVdS | they have a free tier | 20:08 |
MartijnVdS | cheap enough :) | 20:08 |
MartijnVdS | ? | 20:08 |
diplo | https://www.startssl.com/ ? | 20:09 |
diplo | Not worried about free, just don't want to spend £100 a year | 20:09 |
MartijnVdS | that's the one | 20:09 |
bigcalm | What's wrong with self-signed? ;) | 20:11 |
diplo | Don't want friends / family to have to accept the old not verified | 20:11 |
bigcalm | Get them to import the cert into their web browsers | 20:14 |
MartijnVdS | hence startssl :) | 20:14 |
bigcalm | Bah, too easy :P | 20:14 |
MartijnVdS | A few registrars also give 1 year free SSL cert with a domain | 20:14 |
* MartijnVdS uses gandi.net for all | 20:14 | |
diplo | I've just moved a domain to them, hadn't checked their site yet | 20:16 |
diplo | Hmm, free for the first year when i transfer to gandi, can't remember them offering that when moving my other domain | 20:22 |
diplo | Can I move certs from servers to servers easily enough? Never used certs properly | 20:28 |
MartijnVdS | yeah, server to server is fine, as long as the hostname is the same | 20:28 |
diplo | So basically I want to test on a local server and then move to a VPS when I get some more cash | 20:28 |
diplo | yeah will be set up the same | 20:28 |
diplo | Cool ta | 20:29 |
MartijnVdS | np :) | 20:29 |
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