[09:08] <rmg51> Morning
[09:15] <JonathanD> Morning.
[12:04] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else
[13:08]  * adom yawns at 9am.
[15:42]  * ChinnoDog yawns at 11:47am
[15:43] <ChinnoDog> My server clock is 3 minutes faster than my laptop clock. hmm
[15:45] <ChinnoDog> just ran ntpdate. Will find out which clock is off.
[15:46] <waltman> Or you could just run ntpd on both boxes :)
[15:47] <waltman> It was 11:42 when you said it was 11:47, so maybe both clocks are off
[15:48] <ChinnoDog> Maybe your clock is slow
[15:48] <waltman> no, because I *am* running ntpd.
[15:48] <ChinnoDog> I'm not sure ntp.ubuntu.com works
[15:48] <ChinnoDog> I feel like in the past it wouldn't work for me
[15:49] <waltman> also I have the same time on linux, osx and win7 :)
[15:49] <waltman> is ntpd running?
[15:51] <ChinnoDog> I was right. ntp.ubuntu.com didn't work
[15:51] <ChinnoDog> Now my server clock says 11:51
[15:51] <ChinnoDog> I used us.pool.ntp.org
[15:52] <ChinnoDog> It is not running on the server. On Windows it syncs with the domain clock and changing it to sync with ntp is dangerous.
[15:54] <waltman> is the server linux or windows?
[16:14] <ChinnoDog> linux
[16:15] <jedijf> ahhhh, watermelon
[16:17] <jedijf> anytime...3 minutes early or late
[16:27] <ChinnoDog> stop being late jedijf
[17:35] <MutantTurkey> seriously I've been emailing someone repeatedly (liike bumping once a week) since may 10th
[17:35] <MutantTurkey> still
[17:35] <MutantTurkey> they haven't solved an issue on their end of the software.
[17:36] <pleia2> ChinnoDog: I've never had a problem with ubuntu time servers, are you sure ntpd is running?
[17:37] <pleia2> (it's different than ntpdate, and you can't set time with ntpdate if ntpd is running)
[17:47] <ChinnoDog> pleia2: I always have trouble with Ubuntu time servers and ntpd is not running. When I tried to use the Ubuntu time server the process launched and nothing happened. When I used us.pool.ntp.org it updated with a few seconds.
[17:48] <ChinnoDog> I can ping the time server, it just doesn't always give me the time.
[17:48]  * ChinnoDog shrugs
[17:51] <ChinnoDog> latency is only 87ms to ntp.ubuntu.com. I thought the ntp server might have a low TTL set since that is a really short hop that doesn't seem likely.
[17:52] <ChinnoDog> s/\ since/\.\ Since/
[17:52] <ChinnoDog> I'm not positive I escaped those characters correctly
[17:53] <MutantTurkey> ChinnoDog: really depends on what you are using
[17:53] <MutantTurkey> sed?
[17:54] <MutantTurkey> vim and sed have different escape rules iirc
[17:57] <ChinnoDog> I didn't realize that. I hate vim so not that. lol
[18:02] <waltman> Let's get back to why ntpd isn't running...
[18:14] <pleia2> waltman: I gave up :)
[18:15] <waltman> pleia2: wise :)
[18:16] <pleia2> my internet connection has been sucking lately
[18:16] <pleia2> even worse, I have 2 of them, they both suck
[18:16] <JonathanD> can you load balance the suckiness or something?
[18:17] <pleia2> haha
[18:17] <pleia2> perhaps, but probably not worth the trouble
[18:18] <JonathanD> I think my AP is dying at home.
[18:18] <JonathanD> Either that or my laptops wifi is flaking out.
[18:34] <MutantTurkey> JonathanD: do they start to flake out?
[18:34] <MutantTurkey> the AP's I mean
[18:35] <JonathanD> sometimes.
[20:24] <ChinnoDog> I hate moving
[20:24] <pleia2> ++
[20:26] <pleia2> and yet I haven't manage to stay in any one place for more than 4 years since I was a kid
[20:28] <ChinnoDog> My record is 2 years and I've been doing it longer
[20:28] <ChinnoDog> This isn't even by choice. My condo is getting foreclosed on.
[20:29] <pleia2> you rent, right?
[20:29] <ChinnoDog> I'm hoping to get another unit in this building. It is on the top floor but also $300/mo more expensive.
[20:29] <ChinnoDog> Yes
[20:29]  * pleia2 nods
[20:30] <ChinnoDog> The one upstairs does have a pretty nice view though
[20:30] <pleia2> view++
[20:30] <ChinnoDog> It isn't a $300 view but it is nice.
[20:31] <MutantTurkey> 300 bucks is a lot for a view
[20:37] <ChinnoDog> Yea. This building is the tallest in the immediate vicinity though and it is on a hill.
[20:38] <pleia2> my condo doesn't have a view, but it does have a roof deck that has a view
[20:50] <ChinnoDog> My roof deck has a view but I haven't co-opted it into a coworking space yet.
[20:50] <pleia2> hehe
[20:51] <pleia2> tips: wear a hat and have a laptop with a bright screen
[20:51] <ChinnoDog> There are tables with umbrellas
[20:51] <pleia2> ah, that's better than a hat
[20:57] <ChinnoDog> I don't think there are any outlets though
[21:00] <pleia2> there are some outlets on my roof, but I don't tend to spend more than 3 hours up there so batteries last
[22:31] <ChinnoDog> My battery doesn't last 3 hours. :-(
[22:54] <ChinnoDog> Isn't this the technological future we had all been waiting for? Where is my nuclear laptop battery?