| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| === Spaceghost is now known as Space | ||
| === Space is now known as Spaceghost | ||
| Squirm | morning | 05:52 |
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| trender | yo | 06:02 |
| === bluksum is now known as piet | ||
| Kilos | morning all | 06:49 |
| === koedoe is now known as koos | ||
| === koos is now known as koedoe | ||
| nlsthzn | good morning uncle Kilos | 06:52 |
| Kilos | hiya nlsthzn | 06:53 |
| charl | good morning | 07:45 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 07:45 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 07:45 | |
| Kilos | hi charl | 07:48 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 07:49 |
| charl | Maaz: thanks | 08:05 |
| Maaz | charl: No problem | 08:05 |
| Kilos | hi fred2 | 10:50 |
| Kilos | welcome to ubuntu_za | 10:50 |
| Kilos | hi Xethron tonberryE352 | 10:51 |
| Xethron | hi Kilos | 11:34 |
| Kilos | hi psyatw | 11:39 |
| psyatw | hi Kilos | 11:39 |
| psyatw | they took away all my rights to install software at work, I can't even install virtualbox now | 11:40 |
| psyatw | and this is going to be policy for all new installations, I am afraid | 11:40 |
| Kilos | aw | 11:40 |
| Kilos | only home irc then | 11:41 |
| psyatw | but I still managed to install pidgin | 11:41 |
| psyatw | yeah | 11:41 |
| Kilos | the monkey also had probs | 11:41 |
| psyatw | I would prefer to use irssi | 11:41 |
| psyatw | but I don't understand how to configure irssi for windows | 11:41 |
| Kilos | pidgin irc isnt lekker | 11:41 |
| Kilos | i closed it there and use xchat | 11:41 |
| psyatw | I know | 11:41 |
| Kilos | but no one tells me what i may install luckily | 11:42 |
| Kilos | but any contact is better than no contact | 11:42 |
| tonberryE352 | if I could not pick and choose my software i would never get any work done | 11:43 |
| Kilos | bosses | 11:45 |
| Kilos | ai! | 11:45 |
| Kilos | have power and like to let everyone know | 11:45 |
| Kilos | hi JoTraGo1 | 11:46 |
| Kilos | welcome to ubuntu-za | 11:46 |
| JoTraGo1 | Greeetings from Cape Twon | 11:47 |
| JoTraGo1 | Town | 11:47 |
| Kilos | greeting from pta | 11:47 |
| Kilos | i dont do that caps thing | 11:47 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 11:47 |
| charl | hi JoTraGo1 | 11:47 |
| charl | hi psyatw | 11:47 |
| JoTraGo1 | Just trying to figure out IRC setup in Thunderbird. Think I've got it now | 11:48 |
| charl | hi tonberryE352 | 11:48 |
| Kilos | ya looks like | 11:48 |
| Kilos | most here use irc clients | 11:48 |
| psyatw | hi charl | 11:48 |
| charl | psyatw: you can get a cheap VPS from a company like Hetzner | 11:49 |
| Kilos | what OS are you using JoTraGo1 | 11:49 |
| charl | then you can irc from a vps using irssi | 11:49 |
| psyatw | hi tonberryE352 | 11:49 |
| JoTraGo1 | Ubuntu 1204 | 11:49 |
| charl | also hides your IP address so nobody knows where you work :) | 11:49 |
| charl | good for privacy and such | 11:49 |
| Kilos | same as me | 11:49 |
| Kilos | cool | 11:49 |
| charl | and on the local network it just looks like ssh traffic so nobody knows | 11:49 |
| tonberryE352 | did someone say cheap vps? | 11:49 |
| psyatw | charl, I could get a cheap VPS at home too, once I set up a machine there :) | 11:49 |
| tonberryE352 | oh and hi | 11:49 |
| psyatw | but yeah, I will consider it | 11:50 |
| charl | psyatw: it is possible but for the price of getting a vps in a data centre you can hardly afford the electricity | 11:50 |
| charl | and then added hardware costs with central management etc | 11:50 |
| JoTraGo1 | Yep, I finally decided to make the change permanent and ditched Windoze | 11:50 |
| charl | tonberryE352: yes? | 11:50 |
| Kilos | well done JoTraGo1 | 11:50 |
| psyatw | I have blazing fast internet at home, I am planning to use ARM64 hardware once it becomes available | 11:50 |
| JoTraGo1 | But I run Win xp, 7, & 2008 in Virtualboxes for work related stuff | 11:50 |
| Kilos | now you just need to stay here all the time | 11:50 |
| tonberryE352 | not as cheap as I would like... | 11:51 |
| Kilos | oh jot you can use xchat in the repos | 11:51 |
| psyatw | charl, I will make a comparison to see if the VPS still ends up being cheaper | 11:51 |
| Kilos | good client | 11:51 |
| charl | tonberryE352: what do you mean? | 11:51 |
| psyatw | hi JoTraGo1 | 11:51 |
| JoTraGo1 | Now that I have got the chat's set up I'll do that. | 11:51 |
| Kilos | you know cli hey? | 11:52 |
| Kilos | terminal | 11:52 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get install xchat | 11:52 |
| charl | psyatw: i use a vps but then i also use it for mail etc, incoming smtp is often blocked by cable companies | 11:52 |
| tonberryE352 | either I'm looking at the wrong thing or those are a bit pricey for just irc bouncing... | 11:52 |
| JoTraGo1 | A bit, prefer to use guis where I can, | 11:52 |
| JoTraGo1 | Hi psyatw | 11:52 |
| charl | tonberryE352: sorry but you're being vague, what are you looking at? | 11:53 |
| Kilos | then you actually need to install synaptic | 11:53 |
| Kilos | it shows nicelt what is installed and whats available | 11:53 |
| tonberryE352 | looking at the Hetzner site | 11:53 |
| JoTraGo1 | Got it already, much prefer it to USC better control, and I can see where stuff gets installed | 11:53 |
| Kilos | press ctrl+alt+t and terminal will open | 11:54 |
| charl | tonberryE352: not sure if you are in south africa but if you are, everything will look expensive once it's converted to rands :P | 11:54 |
| charl | right now, in any case | 11:54 |
| Kilos | i find synaptic better that sfc | 11:54 |
| Kilos | but terminal installs show you the whole setup biz | 11:55 |
| Kilos | also does updates/upgrades lekker | 11:56 |
| tonberryE352 | I'm in south africa. I was hoping by cheap you meant "can compete with overseas vps" | 11:56 |
| charl | overseas vps? it's in germany | 11:57 |
| tonberryE352 | oh, sneaky .co.za domains... | 11:57 |
| charl | i pay 7,90 euro per month for the cheapest vps package | 11:57 |
| JoTraGo1 | Gotta run, good to meet you guys. CUL8R | 11:58 |
| Kilos | ok chow | 11:58 |
| charl | if i use google to convert it i get 104 zar | 11:58 |
| tonberryE352 | ok that is cheap | 11:58 |
| charl | not sure if that is considered cheap in .za or not | 11:58 |
| charl | used to be cheaper at 10 zar to the euro | 11:59 |
| tonberryE352 | the cheapest vps on hetzner.co.za is almosr R900 per month | 11:59 |
| tonberryE352 | or I am blind | 11:59 |
| charl | bah that is ridiculous who are they kidding | 11:59 |
| charl | that's like 68 euro per month, that is more than what i pay for my overpriced cable connection | 12:00 |
| charl | looked on the hetzner.co.za site, according to me they don't have a vps at all? | 12:01 |
| charl | only dedicated servers | 12:02 |
| tonberryE352 | ok fine i was looking under dedicated servers | 12:02 |
| tonberryE352 | So not entirely the same thing | 12:02 |
| tonberryE352 | Depending on how evil they are... | 12:02 |
| charl | nah you definitely don't want to go that route, unless you have serious hosting needs | 12:02 |
| charl | dedicated servers are expensive | 12:02 |
| charl | this is the one i use: http://www.hetzner.de/hosting/produkte_vserver/vq7 | 12:03 |
| tonberryE352 | ok that is not bad | 12:04 |
| tonberryE352 | But ssh at 300+ms pings is no fun. | 12:05 |
| charl | 300ms pings to europe? | 12:06 |
| charl | wow | 12:06 |
| charl | how is it that high? | 12:06 |
| tonberryE352 | Ok seems to be about 220ms to england | 12:07 |
| tonberryE352 | Would be about 300 if I am using 3g instead of nice university internet | 12:08 |
| charl | 3g has very high latency indeed | 12:10 |
| charl | but there was a technical exlanation for it | 12:10 |
| charl | something about broadcasting to multiple towers | 12:10 |
| charl | for me it's about 20ms from work, 30ms from home, so that doesn't matter much | 12:10 |
| charl | 200ms is quite high latency though | 12:10 |
| tonberryE352 | distance is an issue | 12:14 |
| charl | i know what you mean, i really feel the lag when i open an american website | 12:24 |
| charl | or a japanese website | 12:24 |
| charl | lots of big sites have a cdn though then it doesn't matter | 12:24 |
| === Spaceghost is now known as Guest92539 | ||
| Kilos | wow remote closed the socket | 12:25 |
| Kilos | stupid remote | 12:25 |
| Kilos | Guest92539, kubuntu user? | 12:26 |
| Guest92539 | Yes, why? | 12:27 |
| Kilos | just wondered | 12:28 |
| Kilos | welcome to our south african help channel | 12:28 |
| Guest92539 | :) | 12:29 |
| Guest92539 | In fact I joined here more interested in your bot. | 12:29 |
| Kilos | if you one of the clever guys you can always hang here and help noobs | 12:30 |
| Kilos | oh | 12:30 |
| Kilos | you can install it by you | 12:30 |
| Kilos | ibid in the repos\ | 12:30 |
| Kilos | written in python | 12:30 |
| Kilos | makes lekker cyber coffee | 12:31 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 12:31 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 12:31 | |
| charl | Maaz: coffee please | 12:31 |
| Maaz | charl: Yessir | 12:31 |
| Kilos | Maaz, large | 12:31 |
| Maaz | In a beer mug just for you Kilos | 12:31 |
| Guest92539 | I am not very clever, I am still a noob for Linux issues. | 12:31 |
| Kilos | then this is the best help channel going | 12:32 |
| tonberryE352 | Maaz, larger | 12:32 |
| Maaz | tonberryE352: Excuse me? | 12:32 |
| tonberryE352 | was worth a try | 12:32 |
| Kilos | hehe | 12:32 |
| Kilos | wait tonberryE352 | 12:32 |
| Kilos | Maaz, larger | 12:33 |
| Maaz | inna bucket for you Kilos | 12:33 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos and charl! | 12:35 |
| Kilos | Maaz, danke | 12:35 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 12:35 |
| charl | Maaz: thanks !! | 12:36 |
| Maaz | charl: No problem | 12:36 |
| === Guest92539 is now known as Spaceghost | ||
| keanoeted | hello there | 13:12 |
| keanoeted | I have a HP Proliant ML330 G3 server and would like to what version of server software would suit it? | 13:13 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| keanoeted | would it be 10.04? I have looked at the HP website where there are recomendations for other severs (most say 10.04 and 12.04), but mine is not listed. | 13:15 |
| Kilos | eish | 13:31 |
| Kilos | i missed him | 13:31 |
| Kilos | you okes must watch for strangers when im quiet | 14:05 |
| Kilos | like you charl | 14:05 |
| Kilos | that guy coulda gone with 12.04 server | 14:05 |
| charl | sorry | 14:08 |
| charl | i was actually busy programming :) | 14:08 |
| Kilos | ok | 14:08 |
| charl | and been paying attention to other channels | 14:08 |
| Kilos | np | 14:08 |
| Kilos | i was reading on the bed | 14:08 |
| Kilos | cold in here | 14:08 |
| charl | tomorrow they predict 30 degrees here | 14:09 |
| charl | i will be coming to work in a t-shirt | 14:09 |
| Kilos | lekker | 14:09 |
| Kilos | swops? | 14:09 |
| charl | not so lecker for me actually | 14:09 |
| charl | lol yeah sure :) | 14:09 |
| Kilos | today is 20°c here | 14:09 |
| charl | oh that's not so bad | 14:09 |
| Kilos | house stays cold man | 14:10 |
| charl | yeah that's true | 14:10 |
| Kilos | im no eskimo | 14:10 |
| charl | especially if it drops to 0 in the night | 14:10 |
| Kilos | yip | 14:10 |
| Kilos | intel vs arm for mobile | 14:16 |
| Kilos | http://goparallel.sourceforge.net/analyst-intel-processors-outperform-arm/ | 14:16 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 14:44 |
| Vince-0 | Hi Kilos | 14:44 |
| Symmetria | lo all | 14:48 |
| Symmetria | *sigh* | 14:49 |
| Symmetria | in the next 32 days, I get 18 hours actually at home | 14:49 |
| Kilos | hi Symmetria | 14:49 |
| Kilos | ouch | 14:49 |
| Symmetria | zambia tomorrow morning at 5:30am, back to za on saturday evening, to bloemfontein on sunday morning, to nairobi the saturday after straight from bloemfontein, then from nairobi to malindi, then back home | 14:49 |
| Kilos | whew | 14:50 |
| Kilos | well one has to pay the price if you chase the big bucks | 14:53 |
| === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za | ||
| magespawn | evening all | 17:02 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 17:02 |
| magespawn | Kilos: is the meeting still on? | 17:03 |
| Kilos | nope we forgot | 17:03 |
| Kilos | didnt even start | 17:03 |
| magespawn | we usually start at 19:30, don't we? | 17:04 |
| Kilos | ya | 17:13 |
| Kilos | oh ya | 17:13 |
| Kilos | im looking wrong time | 17:13 |
| Kilos | Vince-0, you chairing? | 17:17 |
| Kilos | where is kbmonkey | 17:17 |
| Kilos | sorry magespawn not a good head day | 17:18 |
| Kilos | nuvolari, meeting in 10 | 17:19 |
| Kilos | inetpro, you too | 17:19 |
| Kilos | Maaz, and you | 17:20 |
| Maaz | Yes man Kilos I am always here | 17:20 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn | 17:23 |
| nlsthzn | so I hear it was a nice long week-end in ZA land? | 17:23 |
| nlsthzn | hiya uncle Kilos | 17:23 |
| Kilos | peeps are supposed to be here for monthly meeting but i forgot to mail a reminder | 17:24 |
| nlsthzn | meeting today? | 17:24 |
| Kilos | ya supposed to be | 17:24 |
| nlsthzn | you have spoiled us all uncle Kilos, if you don't remind us every day for a week before we will never have a meeting again | 17:25 |
| Kilos | sorry man | 17:25 |
| nlsthzn | :p | 17:26 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:26 |
| nlsthzn | well, I assume then no meeting... | 17:27 |
| nlsthzn | I am at work so will be on and off I guess | 17:27 |
| Kilos | i dunno even where Vince-0 is | 17:27 |
| nuvolari | :O just got home | 17:28 |
| nuvolari | who's chairing? | 17:28 |
| Kilos | eish | 17:28 |
| Kilos | ? | 17:28 |
| Kilos | supposed to be Vince-0 | 17:28 |
| Kilos | but i get no reply | 17:28 |
| nuvolari | meh, think we should have a rule about public holidays on a monday | 17:29 |
| nlsthzn | more of them? | 17:29 |
| nuvolari | I think we should see who's here for the meeting, and if there's aenough I'll chair | 17:29 |
| nuvolari | *enough | 17:29 |
| nuvolari | otherwise IMO it would be better to postpone | 17:30 |
| nuvolari | all in favour of my suggestion say aeye | 17:31 |
| Kilos | postpone | 17:32 |
| nuvolari | lol, nlsthzn more rules or more public holidays on mondays? | 17:32 |
| Kilos | head sore need to sleep | 17:32 |
| nlsthzn | postpone the meeting | 17:32 |
| nuvolari | likewise, had to sleep a headache off this afternoon, but it's returning | 17:32 |
| nlsthzn | nuvolari: more public holidays on Mondays :p | 17:32 |
| nuvolari | +1 | 17:32 |
| nuvolari | nlsthzn for president! | 17:33 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:33 |
| nlsthzn | :D | 17:33 |
| * Kilos postpones this months meeting | 17:33 | |
| Kilos | will decide tomorrow till when | 17:33 |
| Kilos | so you guys better work out a date for me | 17:34 |
| nuvolari | should we summon maaz to make the decision official? | 17:34 |
| Kilos | you can nuvolari | 17:34 |
| nuvolari | ok | 17:34 |
| Kilos | due to lack of reminders | 17:35 |
| nuvolari | Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu-ZA Monthly IRC Meeting | 17:35 |
| * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles | 17:35 | |
| nuvolari | Maaz: topic Decision to postpone meeting falling on a public holiday | 17:36 |
| Maaz | Current Topic: Decision to postpone meeting falling on a public holiday | 17:36 |
| nuvolari | Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt | 17:36 |
| Maaz | nuvolari: Alrighty | 17:36 |
| Kilos | no fly , no goosie and min others | 17:36 |
| Kilos | Maaz, I am Miles Sharpe | 17:37 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Alrighty | 17:37 |
| nuvolari | Maaz: agreed As discussed and witnessed by the idlers currently in the channel, we decided that it would be better to postpone the meeting due to a lack of attendance most probably caused by the fact of a public holiday on Meeting night. | 17:38 |
| Maaz | Agreed: As discussed and witnessed by the idlers currently in the channel, we decided that it would be better to postpone the meeting due to a lack of attendance most probably caused by the fact of a public holiday on Meeting night | 17:38 |
| nuvolari | Maaz: agreed Next available Monday is on June 24th, 2013 | 17:39 |
| Maaz | Agreed: Next available Monday is on June 24th, 2013 | 17:39 |
| nuvolari | ok, | 17:40 |
| nuvolari | not sure that I need to add any info | 17:40 |
| Kilos | no well just advertise nuvolari | 17:40 |
| Kilos | i forgot reminders sorry | 17:41 |
| nuvolari | ok, closing meeting | 17:41 |
| nuvolari | Kilos: I don't think that's any reason for the lack of attendance, I blame the public holiday | 17:41 |
| nuvolari | caught most of us offguard | 17:41 |
| nuvolari | I didn't know about it until Thursday :P | 17:42 |
| Kilos | ya blame the holiday | 17:42 |
| nuvolari | Maaz: end meeting | 17:42 |
| Maaz | Meeting Ended | 17:42 |
| Maaz | Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-06-17-17-35-25.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-06-17-17-35-25.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2013-06-17-17-35-25.html | 17:42 |
| Kilos | ty nuvolari | 17:42 |
| Kilos | i go sleep now | 17:42 |
| nuvolari | no problem oom kilos | 17:42 |
| nuvolari | have a nice evening | 17:42 |
| nuvolari | and sleep well | 17:42 |
| nuvolari | I hope you have a good rest | 17:42 |
| Kilos | night all. sleep tight | 17:42 |
| nlsthzn | :( I missed the non-meeting | 17:47 |
| nuvolari | aw. sorry nlsthzn, but it's the thought that counts...? | 17:48 |
| nlsthzn | OK then :) | 17:48 |
| nuvolari | We still love you | 17:48 |
| nuvolari | :P | 17:48 |
| nlsthzn | :D thanks | 17:48 |
| magespawn | hey nuvolari nlsthzn | 17:48 |
| nlsthzn | alo magespawn | 17:48 |
| nuvolari | howdy magespawn | 17:48 |
| nuvolari | how are you? | 17:48 |
| * nlsthzn goes to fill in log sheet quickly... night shift ftl | 17:49 | |
| magespawn | good and you? | 17:49 |
| nuvolari | Good thanks! Had a good break today :> | 17:49 |
| magespawn | public holidays are good for that | 17:50 |
| nuvolari | yeah, but bad for meetings :P | 17:50 |
| magespawn | yes sorry about that i kinda stirred the bees nest on that one | 17:52 |
| inetpro | hmm... | 17:53 |
| * inetpro missed something? | 17:53 | |
| inetpro | good evening | 17:53 |
| magespawn | a non-meeting | 17:53 |
| magespawn | good evening by the by | 17:54 |
| inetpro | does that mean we have a meeting next week? | 17:57 |
| inetpro | is it even worth it? | 17:57 |
| inetpro | why not just skip until next month? | 17:57 |
| inetpro | last meeting feels like it was just yesterday | 17:59 |
| nlsthzn | skip until next year ... dunno... | 17:59 |
| magespawn | the talk was to discuss it tomorrow | 17:59 |
| inetpro | magespawn: ok | 18:00 |
| inetpro | nlsthzn: how's the weather up north? | 18:00 |
| nlsthzn | as long as everyone is reminded we can have it any day... as we see without reminding we wont have it :p | 18:00 |
| nlsthzn | inetpro: hot, do you guys need some heat? | 18:00 |
| inetpro | nlsthzn: true | 18:00 |
| inetpro | a bit of warmth could help | 18:01 |
| inetpro | then again, the cold is needed as well to kill all the bugs | 18:01 |
| nlsthzn | oh if I send enough the bugs will still go down :p | 18:02 |
| * nlsthzn is looking at http://www.oreillyschool.com/ | 18:05 | |
| magespawn | nlsthzn: how much do they charge? | 18:07 |
| nlsthzn | they seem expensive... a typical linux admin certificate goes for about $1500.00 | 18:09 |
| nlsthzn | seems a good way in USA to get a start on a degree... the certificate by itself doesn't hold any kind of recognition (not that I want or need that... this would be more for my own understanding and skills :p) | 18:11 |
| * nlsthzn should stop throwing money at problems where motivation is the problem >.< | 18:12 | |
| nlsthzn | heads up if anyone here is in the mood to do some saucy testing - http://test.ubuntu-discourse.org/t/kicking-off-saucy-testing-with-cadence-week-1/379 | 18:12 |
| magespawn | i saw some of the others and $1500 is not too bad if i recall correctly, but way too much for me at the moment | 18:14 |
| nlsthzn | $2000 for python... | 18:50 |
| magespawn | yeah, is it an real qualification though? | 18:55 |
| nlsthzn | magespawn:it gives credit towards some uni courses in USA... other than that I suspect its most useful to get the skills... not sure the paper is worth much | 19:04 |
| magespawn | ah well then i will be sticking with the free stuff for now | 19:05 |
| === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za | ||
| magespawn | good night all | 21:49 |
| nlsthzn | night | 21:49 |
| === Spaceghost is now known as Guest96910 | ||
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