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DeformativeHi, I am diskless booting ubuntu and would like the nodes to get their hostname from the dns.00:02
DeformativeHow do I configure this?00:02
daftykinsare you running your own DNS server?00:03
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Deformativedaftykins: Yes.00:04
mojtabavalroadie: thank you very much for your help00:06
valroadienp mojtaba ;) glad to help00:10
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DeformativeAnyone?00:10
daftykinsDeformative: seems relevant: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=181415100:13
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benzrfhey! if I steal my parents' .wine-browser directory (data dir for netflix-desktop), is it possible for me to use it to log into their netflix account?00:23
benzrf:p00:24
DeformativeDidn't work. =/00:24
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neiborsHi  all00:31
neiborsI'm installed ubuntu studio 12.04. What the password for root?00:31
goyan124hello00:32
veryhappyhey guys where do i have to go with jackd?00:33
reisioveryhappy: hrmm?00:33
goyan124how do i install windows xp iso from ubuntu. unetbootin doesn't work00:34
daftykinsneibors: root doesn't have a password00:34
daftykinsgoyan124: write it to a CD/DVD00:34
veryhappyreisio: i mean when i have problem with the audio server jackd where do i have to go?00:34
goyan124daftykins i don't have cd00:34
goyan124or disk drive00:34
reisioveryhappy: you could start here00:34
neiborsrly? Hmm...00:35
reisioveryhappy: or send /msg alis list *jack* and look for the highest number00:35
reisio(which is #jack)00:35
daftykinsgoyan124: got a flash drive spare?00:35
goyan124daftykins yes i have usb cards00:35
veryhappyreisio: ok thank you, i'll first start here00:35
goyan124daftykins flash drive00:35
reisioveryhappy: you can also find the website for the project, and search it like so: http://www.google.com/search?q="irc" site%3Ajackaudio.org00:36
daftykinsgoyan124: actually you're not going to be able to do it unless you have a windows system to prepare the flash drive in the first place. you either need to write a CD or use a windows system, you can't install it from ubuntu00:36
veryhappyreisio: yea thanks dude, i wanna try here first00:36
veryhappy;)00:36
benzrfdaftykins: that's BS00:36
reisiowell, all roads point to #jack00:36
reisiothis time00:36
benzrfthere are plenty of utilites that work on buntu00:36
reisiobut perhaps not the next :)00:36
goyan124daftykins what program to use for xp iso to install in a fash drive?00:37
goyan124flash*00:37
veryhappyit's really hard for me to get jackd running how it is supposed to work but when i have to stop jackd i don't get it running anymore that good how can i completely get a process to stop completely when i need to restart it00:37
neiborsI try enter in root without password- Error(password)00:37
daftykinsbenzrf: you're familiar with how XP installs yes? after copying files it needs to know the original mountpoint to see the flash drive as the install media again. this usually requires much scripting00:37
goyan124in windowA00:37
goyan124s00:37
reisiogoyan124: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-16706000:37
reisiomore reliable than any other approach, IME00:37
daftykinsyeah that's 7, not XP00:37
daftykinsnot the same thing _at all_00:38
jrib!root | neibors00:38
ubottuneibors: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo00:38
reisiowell, they're both Windows, so yes at all :p00:38
goyan124i need for xp00:38
reisiogoyan124: try it00:38
daftykinsi just explained why it won't work.00:38
reisiogoyan124: and if it doesn't work talk to #windows, since it's a Windows problem you have00:38
nvznanyone else having a hell of a time with recent 12.06 kernels?00:38
reisiodaftykins: nope, you merely said it wasn't the same thing00:38
nvznanyone else having a hell of a time with recent 12.04 kernels?00:38
reisiocan't even remember what you said? :p00:38
daftykinsreisio: before that00:38
reisionvzn: probably, what's up?00:38
reisiodaftykins: before that I hadn't mentioned it00:38
daftykinsreisio: yeah but the same statements apply00:39
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nvznreisio: they don't boot for me00:39
reisiohow could they :p00:39
reisionvzn: probably avoid using them, then00:39
daftykinsreisio: ugh. you are quite clearly not experienced enough on this topic. i shall leave you to your trolling sir.00:39
nvznwell, i'd like to figure out what's going on00:39
reisiodaftykins: righto00:39
reisionvzn: what happens?00:39
nvzni get a stack trace00:40
nvzni'll u/l it and link it so you can see00:40
nvzn1 min00:40
neiborsIt works!00:40
reisioneibors: gj00:40
Mike9863Once I change .fonts.conf, how can I get the settings to take effect?00:43
subone_exit00:45
valroadieMike9863: 3 options, restart the program, log out then back in or restart completely...00:45
nvznreisio: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19500951/20130616_191916.jpg00:46
reisionvzn: heheh00:46
reisionvzn: was that a hard photo to get?00:46
nvznnot so bad00:47
nvznit takes a while00:47
nvzna few seconds00:47
ripplebitguys tor isn't working, any ideas?00:47
valroadienvzn: do you have a grub installed?00:47
nvznya00:47
reisioripplebit: fix it00:47
nvzni notice grub changed00:48
valroadieNvzn: ok well does it boot if you revert to previous kernals?00:48
nvznyes00:48
nvzn3.2.0-41-generic00:48
HelloWorld321ripplebit: is there an entry in the error log?00:48
nvznis what i currently run00:48
valroadiealright well I would recommend just reverting back as the newer kernals aren't too dramatic of a change00:49
nvznwell thats what i've dont00:49
nvznwell thats what i've done00:49
nvznbut i want to know why00:49
nvznmaybe i can update something00:49
valroadieidk..compatibility? random bug? could be a number of things...00:49
valroadieyou could always make a forum thread and post up some info and see if anyone has ideas00:50
nvznyeah00:50
nvzni should00:50
nvznbug report00:50
budtubaWell, I just logged on.  My son (the computer expert) was conversing with start before, but we still haven't got my sound system working.  Now after rebooting I cannot start Pulse00:50
valroadie;)00:50
ripplebitguys tor ins't working, how can i fix it?00:50
budtubaaudio ...fatal errro.00:50
valroadieripplebit: uninstall reinstall00:50
ripplebittried that00:50
budtubaAn ideas what could have happened?00:50
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valroadieripplebit: have you changed anything recently? if not then I have no idea...I don't use proxies ;)00:51
truedeityanyone got a decent copy of man of steel?00:51
ripplebitnot that i can remember00:51
valroadieripplebit: could be your ISP00:51
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valroadieI know some of them reject tor00:52
ripplebithow could they block it?00:52
Dr_willisalso you could clarify whats 'not working' about it.. and check its logs, and enable verbose logging.00:52
byccompiled wireshark 1.10.0 looks weired in Ubuntu 12.04 http://ntu.me/di/PK18/2013-06-16.png00:52
budtubaanybody:  I need help with my sound system.  PulseAudio cannot be started...fatal error.00:52
valroadieriplebit: no idea but they control the flow in and out so..they must have tabs on it...im sure if they can scold you for torrenting then they can figure out tor ;)00:53
Dr_willisYou really dont want to use Torrents With TOR.00:53
ripplebiti dont want it for torrenting00:53
ripplebitor doing anything illegal or whatever. just want a way of protecting my privacy00:54
bycany ideas for my problem?00:54
Dr_willisripplebit,  Tor is a little overrated in 'privacy' protection..00:54
truedeitywhatever happened to the distro days of irc?00:54
valroadienot saying anyone is torrenting, I am saying if your ISP knows when people are torrenting then I am sure they could figure out peole who use tor00:54
ripplebitwhat is the alternative to tor then?00:55
Dr_willistruedeity,  other IRC networks have shareing channels. Not freenode00:55
valroadiebudtuba: Try here maybe? I do not know a lot about the audio aspect of ubuntu http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/00:55
k1l!warez | truedeity00:55
ubottutruedeity: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o00:55
Dr_willisripplebit,  a vpn, or proxy00:55
truedeitywhats the best warez server/chan then?00:55
yeatsbyc: 1) your link doesn't work for me 2) why not install from the repo00:55
budtubaGuru:  I like your name...you know anything about sound not working?00:55
ripplebiti've been looking, but i cant find any free linux vpns00:55
k1ltruedeity: stop asking here00:55
Dr_willistruedeity,  no idea.. thats not really ubuntu support related..00:55
Charmlettruedeity: None. Freenode has policies against warez.00:55
Dr_willisripplebit,  ive seen them for as low as $5 a month.00:55
Dr_willisripplebit,  with $10 mo 'credit' with special cupon codes00:56
truedeityits too bad00:56
pongwhy would a home user need a vpn?00:56
Dr_willispong,  I ran a znc server on it for my IRC ussage.00:56
Dr_willisand could also set up my own vpn.00:57
Dr_willisso i can get to my stuff from my phone.00:57
Dr_willisthe idea of a 'home' user is somewhat 'broad'00:57
pongDr_WIllis, for privacy reasons?00:57
Dr_willispong,  thats one reason00:57
CharmletSo, I have an actual question!00:57
CharmletI created a bootable USB with the latest ubuntu 64bit on it.00:58
Charmletand every time I load it, it asks to try/install. How do I get it to just be bootable without try/install?00:58
pongisn't it just switching ips from isp to vpn service?00:58
daftykinsCharmlet: you needed to create the flash drive with 'persistence'00:58
CharmletI used the pendrivelinux thing00:58
Charmletand made the persistance about 3.5 gb >.>00:58
yeats!pm | byc00:59
ubottubyc: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.00:59
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bycyeats:1)is there any pastebin avaliable for you guys 2)the same problem with the one in the repo00:59
k1l!paste | byc00:59
ubottubyc: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.00:59
Charmletdaftykins: and there's a 3,600 MB "casper-rw" thing on the drive01:00
Charmletdaftykins: do I just keep pressing try each time I use it?01:01
Dr_willisCharmlet,  you can do a 'full' normal install to a usb flash if you wanted.. or this sort of old guide suggests removeing the 'ubiquity' package01:01
Dr_willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/7429/remove-welcome-screen-from-live-usb01:02
daftykinsCharmlet: i sort of expected it to not show the menu anymore when done right, not sure01:02
CharmletSo the pendrivelinux wasn't the right install?01:02
CharmletI probably screwed up somewhere.01:02
Dr_willisCharmlet,  depends on what you want.01:03
CharmletI want it to be bootable and useable from the USB01:03
Charmletbut not for super intensive stuff, or anything installed.01:03
Dr_willisyou CAN do a FULL normal install to usb flash.. that URL posted says you shouldent.. but the guy gives very little reason why.. and ive ran such a setup for Months and months01:03
Dr_willisOR you can use a Live-usb setup. but thats more for testing/light ussage01:04
Charmletso how do I do the full install? full disclosure - it's an 8 gb HD, i'd run it on 4GB of ram, and I have no CD drive.01:04
Dr_willisand the guide suggest removeing the 'ubiquity' package from a live-usb install will disable that screen01:04
Dr_willisInstall to USB same as you would a internal HD.  partion, put grub on its mbr and so forth01:04
Dr_willisbut 8gb is a little small.01:04
DeformativeHi, I am running a bunch of diskless machines.  For some reason if I boot them all up at hte same time, about half of htem fail to mount the nfs root.  But if I turn them on one at a time, it succeeds.01:05
Charmletlittle small as in it won't work, or I won't be able to install anything at all?01:05
DeformativeAnyone have any ideas?01:05
Charmletall I'd need to install is chrome pretty much.01:05
reisioDeformative: network saturation / timeouts?01:06
reisioDeformative: ask #nfs01:06
Deformativereisio: Ok, thanks.01:07
reisiosticking a tube in your mouth is what digital music is all about01:07
reisiowhoops, wrong chan01:07
Dr_willisCharmlet,  then TRY what that guide suggested.. remove the Ubiquity package via  the apt-get command it says. it might disable that screen.. or just keep clicking try...01:07
CharmletDr_willis: I'll try to do that. Thanks :)01:08
greyhatsholaa01:17
daftykinshi01:17
Skymontso what is best or most popular native games for linux, if this is offtopic please tell me the games in ##gaming thanks01:18
Dr_willissteam has just been released for linux.ubuntu a month or 2 ago. :001:19
Kowwesnoth01:19
Dr_willisso  'best' would have to go to the various HalfLife games I imagine01:19
Dr_willisbest Open Sourced - depends on the kind of games you want01:19
Skymonthave you hear od xonotic?01:20
reisioSkymont: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humble_Bundle01:20
Skymonthave you heard of xonotic?01:20
reisionope01:20
reisiowarsow is another FPS01:20
reisioSkymont: search your package manager for 'FPS' if that's what you want01:21
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javier__2hi! someone can tell me if sending to trash and deleting a picture in shotwell with indeed delete it from my hardrive or just from the collection? Thanks!01:22
ner0xAny well know bluetooth adapters that are PCI? Or whatever the onboard card type are these days?01:22
daftykinsner0x: they tend to sell them as USB dongles alone01:24
Dr_willisI think theres  a few laptop wifi cards with bluetooth built in.. but neverreally looked at them01:25
reisioyeah it'll be a lot easier to find usb01:25
Dr_willisBT  - would be so handy.. if it worked better/faster/easier... ;P01:25
ner0xdaftykins: dongles?01:26
daftykinsyep.01:26
ner0xWhat is a dongle? lol01:27
Dr_willishttp://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dongle01:27
Dr_willis(computer hardware) Any small device which plugs into an electronic device, typically a computer, and alters its functionality. Common examples include wireless modems, software copy protect devices, and adapters. Some USB keyboards and mice include USB to PS/2 adapter dongles, enabling their use on machines with PS/2 ports.01:27
codezombieIn my boot script I have a command listed called "console". This should call us a tmux instance, but for some reason the console command is being run at start up. https://gist.github.com/gitt/3a8ebc64bb6f412acb64 - question is, what would be causing that? This isn't my first boot script I've written, however it is the first time I've had this happen.01:31
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codezombienvm, had backticks in an echo statement... *facepalm*01:37
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ner0xDr_willis: What a terrible name for a piece of hardware.01:39
Tex_NickDr_willis : i was chatting with someone bout a month ago who was using a rasberry pi with ubuntu ... was that you ?01:40
Dr_willisTex_Nick,  Likely. :) not much to chat about.. since ubuntu isent ported to the Pi.01:42
makutoWhen you lose control of the desktop to a fullscreen application, what do you do? I've ctrl alt f1ed out and rebooted, but there must be a better way01:44
Dr_willismakuto,  just kill the app from the console.01:44
Dr_willisor if you can get a alt-f2 run dialog, use xkill01:44
makutoHow do I get back to the desktop?01:45
kostkonctrl alt f701:45
makutoAh, thanks!01:45
Dr_willisand instead of rebooting. you can 'sudo service lightdm restart'  to restart  the X server. ;)01:45
Dr_williswhat app are you loseing controll in?01:45
makutoSome Wine apps don't behave properly01:46
Dr_williscant say ive ever noticed any i couldent alt-tab out of...01:46
Dr_willisor use the alt-f2 xkill trick01:46
Dr_willisUnless they just totally crash the X server. ;)01:47
kostkonmakuto, you can "confine" them in a window if you want by setting a virtual desktopf for them in wincfg01:47
kostkonwinecfg*01:47
Dr_willisThats always a handy feature in wine also. ;)01:47
Dr_willishad to do that with some MMORPG games over the years.01:47
Tex_NickDr_willis : ok thanks i was thinking about building an inexpensive box mounted to the back of a monitor with vesa mount for the grandkids ... using the pi & ubuntu ... thought there was now an unofficial ubuntu port ... thanks for feedback ;-)01:47
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Dr_willisTex_Nick,  if theres any ubuntu for the pi.. i dont know of it.01:48
Dr_willisTex_Nick,  There is a Plex Client For the Pi now. that makes it a very nice  HTPC/DLNA player - if you want to run a plex server. :)01:48
makutoThank you very much!01:48
Dr_willishttp://rasplex.com/  even has a case (in the works) with Vesa mount brackets01:49
Tex_NickDr_willis : if you haven't heard of it ... it probably doesn't exist !!! ;-) hmmmmm i'll look into plex ... thank yo sir01:50
Dr_willisOne of Plex's neatest features..  'plex channels' where (not totally reliable) your PC can stream  sites like AmazonPrime, Netflix, Hulu, and other flash sites.. to your pi via the pc.01:51
daftykinswhy plex over XBMC?01:53
Dr_willisplex uses a 'server client' model. where the PI (or other devices) just need the plex client01:54
Tex_NickDr_willis : yeah looking at plex now ... hey thanks for the feedback sir ^501:54
primepieanyone knows a ppa to install libc++ from ?01:54
Dr_willisthe plex server (a normal pc) handles all the hard stuff.01:54
Dr_willisI have the Plex Channel on my  Roku, my Pi,  and my Smart TV. they all 3 can play the files from my plex server with the exact same interface.01:55
redrocketsame here01:55
Dr_willisPlex app for android exists also. but its like $501:55
redrocketplex works very well with roku01:55
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Dr_willisThe plex 'service' they sell -  lets you access the files over the internet.01:55
Dr_willisbut i dont do that.01:55
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Dr_willisI grabbed some 3rd party Media player the other day with a built in HD  - it dosent have  the usefull channels the Roku does. ;(01:56
gavilan2Does linux uses a swap drive or something like virtual memory by default? I'm running it on an SSD, so I don't want to have any such things that make a lot of writes to the SSD01:57
daftykinsyeah it create a swap partition usually01:57
Dr_willisif it even uses the swap at all. ;)01:57
daftykinsif you manually partition and avoid making one, or put it on a mechanical HDD, all will be well01:57
Dr_willisI think people tend to worry way to much about  swap writes. but i got 8gb of ram - and rarely see swap used.01:58
daftykinssure, you do - but not everyone has the same hardware01:58
Dr_willisaskubuntu.com had some tweak guides on ssds also.01:59
Dr_willisgavilan2,  and your ram amount is what exactly?01:59
gavilan2Dr_willis: 1 GB... I only use firefox usually...02:00
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daftykinswith a billion tabs?02:01
Dr_willisso.. you spent money on a ssd, instead of more ram? ;)02:01
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crazycory22hello all02:01
* Tex_Nick went CRAZY on this box with 16Gb of ram ... i doubt i'll ever use more than about 6Gb ... I am running an APU though ...integrated GPU shares sys ram02:02
gavilan2daftykins: 10 tabs at the most....02:03
gavilan2Dr_willis: My linux is a VM... The host PC has 16 GB.... I could put more ram into it, but I don't think I need it...02:03
Dr_willisgavilan2,  so you are worried about a virtual swap partition? thats on a real ssd?02:04
Dr_willisin a virtual hard drive. ;)02:04
gavilan2Dr_willis: I don't want to send many writes to the SSD...02:06
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Dr_willismakes me wonder what this DigitalOcean VPS is doing.. they say they are using all SSD's  and i had a swap partition on them02:06
daftykinsgavilan2: is the SSD the only storage in the system?02:06
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gavilan2daftykins: I have some HDDs too, but the VM runs from the SSD....02:07
Dr_willismay be best to monitor how much the VM is swapping.. and if its doing it a lot.. increase its ram.02:07
daftykinsgavilan2: just turn the swap off / reinstall without one02:08
Dr_willisor setup a 2nd virtual disk for the vm thats not on a ssd just for its swap partion/drive. but that may be overkill.02:08
crazycory22ok you guys would be the ones to ask i'm assuming.  i just installed Linux Mint.  And I am using xchat-gnome.  Is there a better irc client?02:09
Dr_williscrazycory22,  just 'xchat'  or 'weechat' and  Mint has its own support channels...02:09
SuperLagTex_Nick: I thought 16GB was crazy in my MacBook Pro. Now on this ThinkPad, I've got 32GB of RAM. It's amazing.02:09
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SuperLagTex_Nick: and you'll use all 16GB of that, easily. From the *nix perspective... unused RAM is wasted RAM, so it'll use everything available.02:10
mehworkhow do you install JRE with apt? is it the 'default-jre' package?02:11
nevyn!ram02:11
ubottuIf you are wondering why some tools report your system has very little free memory, have a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html02:11
Dr_willis!java02:11
ubottuTo just use java you need a "Java Runtime Environment" (JRE) and/or a browser plugin. If that is not sufficient you will need a "Java Development Kit" (JDK) aka "Software  Development Kit" (SDK).  Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java about how to install one of three current implementations.02:11
Guest4030i need help with this system LIDE how to get the sound02:12
heritest02:13
reisioheri: fail02:14
SuperLagreisio: ^502:14
mehworkDr_willis: that page is confusing, it says to install openjdk-jre6 and openjdk-jre7, but does that make sense or is it trying to say to install one or the other?02:14
reisio:p02:14
Tex_NickSuperLag : lol ... hey man ... hey if you can afford it, Go For IT ;-) ... i use ffmpeg & handbrake for video transcoding sometimes ... with threads set to 4 ( i have a 4 core APU ) those apps will run all 4 cores at 100% ... the ram never exceeds about 6Gb though ... hey how you like that thinkpad ?02:14
nevynTex_Nick: how are you measuring your ram usage?02:15
SuperLagTex_Nick: love it. I've got the W530, and everything works. Just set up the fingerprint thing yesterday. Now when the screensaver comes on, I swipe my index finger and it logs me in.02:15
SuperLagTex_Nick: I love its expandability, as well. I have 3 SSD02:15
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SuperLagTex_Nick: hit Enter too quickly. 3 SSD's for a total of 1.1TB of storage. Pulled the optical. don't need it but once in a blue moon.02:16
Tex_NickSuperLag ... measuring ram ussage with system monitor ... is there a more efficient way ???02:16
SuperLagTex_Nick: I most often just look at "top".02:17
franck_hi :)02:17
SuperLagTex_Nick: there are other ways, but top is sufficient for my usage02:17
Tex_NickSuperLag ... jeeze that sounds super cool ... i might consider one of those in the n ear future02:17
SuperLagTex_Nick: 2 regular 2.5" drives for 2 of them, and the third is an mSATA card.02:18
Tex_NickSuperLag ... yeah i love top from terminal ... specially from SSH login ;-)02:18
SuperLagsorry... redundant on the "2"02:18
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Dr_willismehwork,  depends on if you want java 6 or java 702:20
SuperLagTex_Nick: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5772729/02:21
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murilo_fs\leave02:27
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SonikkuAmericamurilo_fs: Are you looking for /part or /quit ?02:28
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murilo_fsSonikkuAmerica, yes thanks :D02:29
Guest4030i nee help with this system LIDE where is the control value02:31
Guest6785PINGDROPS02:35
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Guest4030i need help with this system LIDE02:35
tjnogueiraanyone who knows how to install a JDK via console ???02:36
mimzyMy settings won't save on Ubuntu 13.04.02:36
tjnogueirai'm just a beginner .02:36
SonikkuAmericamimzy: Live image?02:36
SonikkuAmericaGuest4030: What's LIDE?02:37
mimzylive image?02:37
Guest4030is Linux LIDE02:37
Guest134351df02:39
lynnixGuest4030,    LXDE maybe???02:39
Guest4030oh yes, sorry02:39
Guest4030i cannot find the control for value02:40
lynnixGuest402:40
lynnixGuest4030,   value of what??02:41
Guest4030i had check system tool and preferences02:41
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Guest4030the volume02:42
Guest4030i cannot find the control volume02:42
lynnixGuest4030,       ok you  need to add it   if it is gone02:42
lynnixGuest4030,       right click   on the taskbar         to bring up the menu          add         volume control02:43
Guest4030you know usually the volume is in the conner with the time but this system it dont bring it02:44
lynnixhappened to me a few days ago too02:44
lynnixjust add it back on02:44
mimzyAny idea why settings aren't being saved? I installed from USB.02:46
SonikkuAmerica(It's DarkAceZ here for OXI Clean!) LOL02:47
brad100does anyone here use thunderbird with dovecot?02:47
brad100for some reason thinderbird wont verify my info02:47
Guest4030Lynnix, this one it only has this, Spacer, menu application launch bar, minimize all window, desktop,  task bar window list, system tray, digital clock02:47
lynnixGuest4030,     click on   the ADD button on that window              it will bring up another menu            find volume control there   click on that02:49
Guest4030oh might God you are the best, you did it. God bless you professor.02:50
lynnixthanks but it is just something I use  and know somthing about02:50
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Global_Radiois there anyway to display weather in a screensaver?02:56
x1t3rhello02:59
Guest4030lynnix question, where can i go to check my sound card?03:00
lynnixGuest4030,      check in what way           is your sound working  or not??03:03
Guest4030yes, what happens is that i had install external sound card03:04
lynnixarecord -l03:04
lynnixor   arecord -L03:05
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Guest62991sorry lynnix, can you help me with my question, where can i check my sound card03:09
valroadieguest4030: type arecord -l OR arecord -L into a terminal03:09
valroadie-l is a lowercase L if you were wondering ;)03:10
lynnixGuest62991,     as he said03:11
lynnixbut iI think it it    record -L03:12
Guest62991my computer i restarted i couldnt see your answer03:12
valroadietype arecord -l OR arecord -L into a terminal03:12
Dr_willis'arecord -L '        ;)     not   'arecord -l OR arecord -L'    also.. Just to be very very very clear.03:13
Dr_williswithout the quotes of course.03:13
Dr_willis!sound03:14
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.03:14
lynnixDr_willis,      thanks03:14
Dr_willisjust had to fight a sound issue on another machine... somehow.. unplygging plugging back in the HDMI cable got sound working... may be a slightly flakey cable i guess..  wasted an hr+ figuring that out. ;p03:14
thelionroarscan anyone help me with this issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/308940/cant-access-my-raring-installation-after-adding-a-quantal-install/308946?noredirect=1#30894603:17
etkhi guys/gals.... i've had an issue on my system with updating from the repositories for a while now -- keeps failing on a few repos.  i've been trying to get multiple versions of ruby installed on my system with rvm but i think the repo problem is causing errors03:19
etki've got the errors pasted here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5772833/03:19
etkthe system is 12.0.4 precise03:19
etkhas anyone experienced this ? nothing i've found on any googles has fixed the issue03:19
SonikkuAmericaetk: Try [ sudo apt-get clean ; cd /var/lib/apt ; sudo mv lists lists.old ; sudo mkdir -p lists/partial ; sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get update ] in a terminal.03:23
sereetk: you could try changing your mirrors : http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/03:24
etksere: let me try SonikkuAmerica's solution03:24
etkthen on to yours03:24
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Guest39745whats with all the pingdrops03:28
SonikkuAmericaGuest39745: Happens all the time.03:28
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etkSonikkuAmerica: that didn't do the trick :/03:30
etklet me try changing mirrors...03:31
etkoh actually i just did that last night sere ... still didn't help03:31
SuperLagIs there any nicer screensaver thing, other than Xscreensaver?03:35
SuperLagThe look/feel of Xscreensaver seems about 10 years old. It'd be nice to have something more modern and suave. :)03:36
lotuspsychjeSuperLag: there are many screensavers looking modern, but many will use Xscreensaver base03:36
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sereetk: did you add your gpd keys?03:38
seregpg*03:38
lotuspsychje!info electricsheep | SuperLag03:40
ubottuSuperLag: electricsheep (source: electricsheep): screensaver showing collective dream of sleeping computers. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.7~b12+svn20091224-1ubuntu4 (raring), package size 75 kB, installed size 261 kB03:40
lotuspsychjethats a nice103:40
lotuspsychjeSuperLag: apt-cache search screensaver03:42
etksere: i did03:42
sereetk: something is stopping you from connect to certain servers and verifying a few gpg keys.. i dunno what03:44
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etkhmm i've narrowed it down to just one sere03:48
etkhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5772881/03:49
etkbut i added all the keys...03:49
etkeither way i don't understand why 1 error in sources.list breaks rvm from installing anything03:50
sereetk: if ruby is trying to pull anything from that repo. it will03:50
IdleOne!gpgerr03:51
ubottuGetting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »03:51
etki added all the keys it told me to03:52
etknot sure which specific one that is failing on03:52
etkbut its a 3rd party repo that has nothing to do with ruby...03:53
IdleOnetry sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 08A255AF03:53
Austnealhello!03:54
etkIdleOne: thanks... no errors now after i removed that google repo03:55
etknow back to rvm...03:55
Austnealwould anyone like to help me set up postfix + dovecot? I've been reading documentation and tutorials for the past couple days and NOTHING works for me >.<03:56
Austnealcan't believe Im having trouble for something so simple :/03:56
lotuspsychjeAustneal: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/postfix.html03:57
Austnealalso, Im looking to set it up to use multiple domains03:57
tarwichI just started running a server health monitor (zabbix) and it's warning me that inetd isn't running. However, my server only serves http and ssh. Do I really need inetd? Seems like it couldn't hurt.03:58
AustnealI can install it... just configuring it seems to be the trouble03:58
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lotuspsychjeAustneal: its best to ask specific errors in channel, so others might help you as good as they can03:58
lotuspsychjeAustneal: maybe #ubuntu-server guys might also know your issue03:59
Austnealah, thanks. I'll go check there03:59
somsiptarwich: have you checked to see what inetd does? You may have xinetd installed instead. Maybe zabbix just has a defaulkt config that needs changing to check for the other04:00
tarwichsomsip: Yeah. It looks like inetd is a connection broker that listens for connection on behalf of other processes so that it can be managed better. And this is the default config. Some things are wrong. Didn't know about xinetd (checking…)04:01
* lotuspsychje is off to work..bah04:01
somsiptarwich: I just did something that replace inetd with xinted and got concerned, but it seems to be the flashier version. Either way, check what zabbix is looking for04:02
switchingso i just installed GNOME 3 in ubuntu and it worked well when I log into GNOME, but now when I switch back to unity the fonts are different and the close buttons are on the right.  What do I do?04:03
tarwichsomsip: Well xinetd doesn't appear to be on the system. I just wanted to know if I can remove the check from my monitors. The ports are all open just fine, and I don't know how much inetd would 'help'. I'll google more and see if I can find out what process to look for and in the meantime I'll remove inetd from the monitor.04:03
somsiptarwich: sounds fair. Sorry I didn't have a more definitive answer for you04:03
tarwichsomsip: np. Thanks for your time, man! :-)04:03
Austneal#ubuntu-server is dead :/04:04
rhizomegrr. drive dying04:04
Austnealshould have stuck with the windows server x_x04:07
Average_Noxian_Anyone available to answer a question? I think I've messed something up biiig time04:12
somsip!anyone | Average_Noxian_04:13
ubottuAverage_Noxian_: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.04:13
Average_Noxian_Basically, I've messed up my ssd, which I was using as a boot drive for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Something went wrong when I was installing WineHQ, and i could no longer use update manager. I decided to reinstall using the same .iso i used to install it the first time. only this time it won't let me install it on the ssd.04:15
supramindixhello04:16
KickStarRabbithey04:16
Average_Noxian_Everytime I try to download it, it's telling me that it's in use. So i loaded from a live usb, and tried to format the ssd so that it could be wiped and reinstalled, but I get the same error, that it's in use. What do. Google and askubuntu have not a whole lot of information on this problem04:17
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etkcool thanks IdleOne, everything is back to normal and working04:18
supramindixI have not "/dev/dsp", I do? my sound works perfect, I have "/dev/snd/*" but none work for me. is for a program that needs whether or audio device.04:18
etkalso thanks sere04:19
sereetk: your welcome.. glad you got it working04:20
supramindixI'm tired of searching the internet and I can not find the solution.04:20
KickStarRabbitso I got my a release of ubunto on my labtop04:20
KickStarRabbitwhat happened to x-windows?04:20
KickStarRabbitthe gui is not what I remember04:20
supramindixplis04:21
Tex_NickAverage_Noxian_:  basically what you would want to do for a TOTALLY new install ... boot with a live usb or cd/dvd and do a manual install ... from there delete all partitions ... and continue from there ... that's assuming it DOESN'Y have another OS installed !!!04:21
supramindixhow do I create /dev/dsp? or device can replace?04:22
KickStarRabbitso is there another version of ubunto I need for x-windows04:22
seresupramindix: modprobe snd-pcm-oss04:23
TheLordOfTimein a default installation, does Ubuntu separate the /home, /swap, and / partitions automatically in a default install to a drive (without customized partitioning)?04:24
TheLordOfTimelast i checked it did not04:24
* TheLordOfTime is trying to confirm facts04:24
supramindixsere, FATAL: Module snd_pcm_oss not found.04:24
somsipTheLordOfTime: the last time I sued it, it was /swap, and / and that was it, by default04:25
somsip*used04:25
TheLordOfTimesomsip:  that's what i thought04:25
kostkonsupramindix, try to emulate it with padsp:  padsp executable_of_application_here04:25
supramindixseems to have accepted.04:28
kostkonsupramindix, ;)04:28
supramindixkostkon, very thanks! already works!04:30
kostkonsupramindix, nice04:30
CharcoalcatWhen I let my cursor sit, it starts filling up with orange, and then clicks on whatever it's on. If I move the cursor, the glow stops. How do I turn this off? It keeps clicking on everything.04:38
acerimmerCharcoalcat, sounds like a hardware issue.  try a different mouse.04:41
Charcoalcat... it stopped on its own?04:42
Charcoalcatacerimmer thanks anyway!04:42
sereCharcoalcat: i believe it has something to do with compiz04:42
CharcoalcatOh no it started again. I didn't do anything except open a new tab.04:44
sereCharcoalcat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyZzl1FUVNg : this is how to activate it, so just do the opisite :)04:44
Charcoalcatsere thank you, I'll try that!04:44
sereCharcoalcat: your welcome, good luck!04:45
switchinghelp!! I installed GNOME3 on ubuntu and now nothing appears on the desktop and i can't select anything04:54
Charcoalcatsere: The video is something else! The video shows you how to make shapes rotate around your cursor when you press a key combination. Mine looks like this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16623407/screenshots/orangeclick.png04:57
tonessere how did you install it?04:57
Dr_willisswitching,  common test.. try making a new user, see if they work. also clarify to the channel your version of ubuntu and what you installed exactly.04:57
CharcoalcatIt's white at first, but then turns orange starting at the tip and going down! Then clicks when it's fully orange like the screenshot. The clicking is the important part.04:58
Dr_willisCharcoalcat,  sounds like some accessability feature.04:58
mib_pfsIs there a way to add a /boot partition before my / partition?04:59
CharcoalcatDr_willis: Oh, that was it! I found it in Universal Access! Thanks!04:59
Dr_willismib_pfs,  resize your / if its at the start of the drive and shrink it down from the front05:00
Dr_willismake a new partion then mount it to /boot/05:00
switchingdr_willis thanks, but i just needed to turn something on in gnome-tweak05:00
Dr_williswhy do you need a /boot/ parttion?05:00
mib_pfsWas going to experiment with different distros05:00
Dr_willisswitching,  cant say i really have needed to use that tool in ages.05:00
switchingdr_willis :P05:01
mib_pfsWont resizing my / partition from the front cause data to be lost?05:01
Dr_willismib_pfs,  i dont really see why you need a seperate /boot/ partition.05:01
Dr_willis'resize' = gparted can resize and keep data intact05:01
switchingmy more important problem is that after installing GNOME, when i switch back to unity, the close button is on the right05:01
Dr_willisswitching,  thats a theme setting for the most part these days. (its tweakable by various tools)05:01
Dr_willisthe themes just have a script i recall that sets it to the other side,05:01
Dr_willisif you want it moved.. move it back. ;)05:02
Dr_willis!controls05:02
ubottuStarting in Lucid, the minimize, maximize, and close buttons have been moved to the left side. For more information and workarounds, please see http://pad.lv/53263305:02
switchingdr_willis hmm, i will look, thanks05:02
Dr_willisthey should just put it in the middle. ;)05:03
switchinghahahaha05:03
switchingi found it in unity tweak though, thanks for your help05:03
chaudharyHi, What is the order in which apt-get looks for proxies ( in apt.conf, $http_proxy, DIRECT etc. )05:09
toobluescAnyone know when upstart unmounts the filesystems during reboot/shutdown ?05:13
toobluescI need to add a task that runs after a filesystem is unmounted05:13
ZelbinianSo, I have a question, but I'm not sure where to start.... basically, my Windows 7 registry ate itself this morning. Tried to install Mint a couple times... that was just not working out at all, couldn't even boot. And now right away things have been a little quirky in Ubunutu. How do I go about checking if I have hardware/driver issues?05:27
MathCubesCan some one help me get a diver?05:28
MathCubesIntel® Sandybridge Mobile05:29
MathCubesFor viedo card05:29
k1l_MathCubes: ubuntu already should ship and use the right driver05:29
MathCubeswell it is not because I can't play any games05:30
k1l_with steam?05:30
nightflyyou might be expecting too much of your gpu05:30
MathCubesthat I got 100 fps under winblows with ubuntu i got 2 or 3 fps05:30
MathCubeshumm sounds to me it is the diver05:31
Tex_NickZelbinian:  your problems with the Win 7 registry & Ubuntu Mint would be NOT at all related ... almost sounds like you have a hardware issue05:32
MathCubeswell I use X.org diver05:32
waufNeed advice. I have a usb drive which accidentally got targed by tool to make a bootable usb drive. The drive was 500gb. Now the drive reads 1.2gb. I need to recover the data. whats the best tool for this job?05:33
sereMathCubes: sudo apt-get install i965-va-driver05:34
MathCubes@sere i965-va-driver is already the newest version. The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   lib32asound2 lib32z1 libc6-i386 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 23 not upgraded.05:35
MathCubesI have a Intel Core i5 Processor05:35
sereMathCubes: oh sorry i dunno then.. i only have the basic intel driver installed since my card sucks.. :x05:36
MathCubesokay I want to play some games I get better fps on my netbook then on here. 8 gb of ram...05:37
sereMathCubes: how can you play videos? have you done any benchmark test?05:37
MathCubesjust fine for 480 p05:37
MathCubesand 720 p some what if it isn't game like05:37
sereMathCubes: are you trying to play steam games?05:37
MathCubeson Windows 1024 p Just fine05:37
MathCubesyep05:38
MathCubeshttp://feedback.wildfiregames.com/report/opengl/device/Intel(R)%20Sandybridge%20Mobile05:38
sereMathCubes: well if 720p is giving you trouble then i would say its software / driver issue05:38
MathCubesI know it is since with a game like Xonotic I get 3 or 4 fps on Windows like 60 or more fps05:39
MathCubes@Sere I know it is since with a game like Xonotic I get 3 or 4 fps on Windows like 60 or more fps05:40
MathCubes@sere I get just fine fps until 3 min into the game and them it drop down to 3 fps or so05:41
sereMathCubes: that it strange.. especially if it works for three minutes.. did you check your /var/log/ maybe something stopped working?05:43
Tex_NickMathCubes: don't know what distro or dersktop enviornment you're running ... if you can access "System Testing" it will provide a lot of info ... WARNING it can take a lot of time to run05:43
MathCubeseven on openbox05:43
MathCubes@Tex_Nick How do i do that?05:44
tr0nsjd_zeus: dont irc as root05:45
Tex_NickMathCubes : for my enviornment it's in "System Tools/Administration/System Testing"05:46
MathCubesokay doing it05:47
Tex_NickMathCubes: it can be a LONG drawn out procedure though05:47
MathCubesokay05:47
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talltimbersaturday 10am?06:00
MathCubes@Tex_Nick here are the resluts https://mega.co.nz/#!WB1n3LhT!WTeQDQcqvya0EmsWzezLjHIAD-YkT1u-vUC0ZNY_uoQ06:00
MathCubesIs anyone helping me06:01
nightflyresluts...06:08
acerimmernightfly, re-sluts?06:09
nightflytypo a few lines back06:09
nightflythought it was silly06:09
Equinox3is there any way to optimize tcp on ubuntu06:10
Equinox3packets and window size06:10
Equinox3the wifi seems really slow than on windows06:11
Jordan_UEquinox3: You can change the window size and other parameters, but first, is this a Wireless N network and do the drivers for your card support the N capability?06:12
Equinox3nope this is a alfa b/g awush adapter Jordan_U06:13
Equinox3Alfa AWUS036H06:14
Equinox3Jordan_U: it is a N network but the device isn't so i don't think i need the driver updated, also rtl8187 driver in already included in the kernel06:19
coyhey everyone can help me please?06:41
amitprakash_Hi, so I've purchased a wildcard certificate from comodo. Is it possible to enable SSL for a single sub-domain using this certificate for now?06:42
amitprakash_on apache i.e. using mod_ssl .. if so what should my vhost be like?06:42
coyiam using ubuntu 12.4 on virtual box.. when i install ltsp server ican't build client...06:43
coyi use tutorial from http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-create-ubuntu-1104-x64-ltsp-server-32bit-thin-clients06:43
coyfrom step 6 i get the errror ltsp-build-client ends abnormally06:44
coyhow can do it??06:44
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histocoy: can you sudo ltsp-build-client  ??06:50
histocoy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall06:50
coyhisto: yes i can, but i get error ltsp-build-client ends abnormally06:55
histocoy: what si the error?06:56
histo!paste | coy06:56
ubottucoy: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.06:56
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coyoke..thanks for respone histo06:58
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histocoy: you may be able to gain more help out of the edubuntu room07:00
humboldtusing xubuntu... just installed... trying to find scripts / tutorials for modifying xcfe4-notes to be more like tomboy-notes.... also hoping to fix cmdln to use 'colours' similar to de-commenting terminal / cmdln in typical ubuntu07:02
humboldti.e. happy with gONb term... but would like better highlighting (e.g. vim with scripts installed gives awesome colours in terminal / cmdln07:03
humboldtPM if you have anything nice to share07:03
allanx0Using Ubuntu Natty 64bit. How to update sources.list? Which correct site? It seems that it wont work the updates. I use deb archive.ubuntu.com repos07:03
Duke_Installing Ubuntu right now. What 10 things should I do first?07:04
bazhang_!eolupgrades | allanx007:04
ubottuallanx0: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades07:04
histoDuke_: test sound, network, video etc... rejoice07:06
histohumboldt: why not just use tomboy-notes ??? and just grab a .bashrc from ubuntu07:07
Duke_histo: I meant more like what apps/programs should I get, or what customization should I go through :p07:07
allanx0bazhang_ thanks i appreciate it07:07
histoDuke_: depends on what you are going to be doing.07:09
Duke_histo: Programming, mostly in C and C++07:10
Duke_histo: It's my secondary computer07:10
histoDuke_: well check out the software center and search for some things you may need etc...07:10
histo!manual > Duke_07:10
ubottuDuke_, please see my private message07:10
coyhisto: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5773186/07:11
histocoy: remove the directory it's complaining about07:12
coyhisto: http://imagebin.org/26162307:12
Guest62008hi07:13
histocoy: yeah you did not have to pastebin a imagebin link07:16
histocoy: just remove the directory it's complaining about and should continue07:16
coyhisto: i must remove directory and then rebuild client, like sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i38607:18
mg_Hi! I was trying to make my second display work (it lagged like hell) by installing nvidia-current drivers, but this broke stuff. Unity does no longer work (only wallpaper shows), and I am unable to enable opengl (and thus unity) in ccsm. How do I reenable nouveau drivers or properly install nvidia drivers?07:19
histocoy: yes07:20
coyhisto:07:20
coyhisto: thanks.. i will try it..07:21
seriously_randomI want to watch wwdc apple keynote 2013 https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-keynotes/id275834665 <-- is it possible?07:21
histocoy: backup /opt/blah/whatever if you need anythign there07:21
histoseriously_random: just watch on youtube.07:21
seriously_randomhisto, link?07:21
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histoseriously_random: http://www.youtube.com07:22
histoseriously_random: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=apple+keynote&page=&utm_source=opensearch07:22
seriously_randomhisto, thanks. Though it's annoying to find a full upload on youtube07:23
coyhisto: oke..07:24
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histoseriously_random: Yeah I had to search for apple keynote  that was annoying07:24
seriously_randomhisto, found the full version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxe_0-rttIw (I think)07:25
Tex_Nickseriously_random:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzUH9PJA1Ro ... if you have downloadhelper installed in firefox, you can easilly download it too ;-)07:26
seriously_randomTex_Nick, I've got them all. Flashgot, youtube-dl, ....07:27
seriously_randomTex_Nick, however getting this to work in ubuntu: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-keynotes/id275834665 would be awesome07:27
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Tex_Nickseriously_random:  guess i don't understand your issue ... what histo posted looked good to me ;-)07:30
seriously_randomTex_Nick, what you don't understand? I could try to explain better.07:32
corvatciao07:33
corvatlist07:33
Tex_Nickseriously_random: i think the link you find on itunes will be the same link you find on YouTube ???07:34
histoseriously_random: Does youtube currently work for you or not?07:35
seriously_randomTex_Nick, probably itunes has slightly better quality07:35
histoseriously_random: well you can't run itunes in linux07:35
histoseriously_random: here's the hd version on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxe_0-rttIw07:36
seriously_randomhisto, http://i.imgur.com/RzMwbIk.png07:37
Tex_Nickseriously_random: what histo just posted is 1080p ... jeeze that's GREAT !!!\07:38
seriously_randomTex_Nick, well. Imagine if full version was only available at itunes link I posted.07:38
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histoseriously_random: well. it's not07:39
seriously_randomok you win07:39
Tex_Nickok this is getting to be off-toppic07:39
histoseriously_random: afaik the only way to get itunes working in linux is to use a windows vm07:39
summit.07:39
seriously_randomhisto, I have used gnome-mplayer for quicktime in the past. Thought perhaps this itunes protocol is just as simple07:40
histoseriously_random: the links I have just take you to an itunes download page.07:41
Kionis there any program to manage an Ipad from Ubuntu?07:41
jellowyou can install itunes in wine but you can't sync with apple products07:41
histo!ipad | Kion07:42
histo!ipod | Kion07:42
ubottuKion: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod07:42
KionThanks it is not for me, but for a friend that If I help him with this he will get rid of Windows for good and use Ubuntu07:43
Tex_NickKion : unfortunately i don't use apple products ( i love them though ) doesn't the Ipad support SSH ... is so you could SSH into the Ipad and probably do a lot ???07:44
histoKion: Unfortunately if he is really reliant on itunes and wanted to switch to linux he would still need a windows vm at the least to use itunes07:45
jellowIt is ptobally more sane to stick with windows due to apples proprietary nature07:46
KionTex_Nick: Probbably bvia ssh, that makes sense, but he is not very technology oriented..07:46
histoKion: well you could use scp if ssh is supported.07:46
KionFor me, I just dont use any apple stuff07:46
Kionhisto: I will tell him to give ssh a try, maybe that is the solution07:47
histoKion: well you can get him some graphical apps for copying files back and forth etc.. but he will not be able to backup etc.. like itunes but everything is cloud based now. Why would he even need to plug the iPad into a computer?07:48
Jordan_UKion: Try the page that ubottu linked to before jailbreaking and using ssh. That sounds highly suboptimal, especially for a new Ubuntu user.07:48
* histo is confused why an iPad even needs to be plugged into a computer.07:48
jellowKion: I've ssh'ed into my ipod touch and all the music names were hashed , realy was not practical.07:49
alocerso we can ssh into an android phone ? 0.O i didnt know that wow07:49
Kionjellow Yes, I am looking at them now07:49
histoalocer: with a proper app installed. You can even have your android phone be an ssh server07:50
Tex_Nickare we talking about an ipod or ipad ?07:50
KionIs the Ubuntu OS for phones ready?07:50
histo!phone | Kion07:50
ubottuKion: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch07:50
KionI would love to install it on my Samsung S307:50
alocerlovely histo07:50
histoKion: bascially it's not ready07:50
k1l_Kion: no its not ready, still in development. for details see #ubuntu-touch07:50
KionOk thanks, cant wait !07:51
OghamHi all, just hit a bug with /boot being full when doing the latest update to 3.8.0-25 - Is there a manual solution?07:55
zetheroowhy is it that copying large files to a USB flash drive is so extremely slow?07:55
Tex_Nickzetheroo: are you using usb2 or usb3 ?07:57
zetherooTex_Nick: USB207:57
Tex_Nickzetheroo: have a look at the following link ... it will give you USB Specifications ... compare them to the device you're coppying from ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus07:59
OghamIs there a recommended way to remove old kernels?07:59
emxi want to access my encrypted home from a non-ubuntu linux. where do i find my home folder?07:59
Jordan_UOgham: Remove their kernel packages.08:01
summitwhat's everyones thought on Easystroke Gesture Recognition with ubuntu?08:01
Tex_Nickzetheroo:  also keep inmind that your motherboard usb interface needs to be at least usb2 compliant ... if it's legacy usb, it's gonna be SLOW08:01
OghamJordan_U: Are there further actions required such as grub updates?08:01
Jordan_UOgham: Nope, that's all done automagically :)08:01
OghamJordan_U: ah excellent, been a while since I used ubuntu! (Used to BSD) - So that is literally it, purge the packages and reboot?>08:02
zetherooTex_Nick: I don't understand ... this is not an issue with my hardware since with Windows or older Ubuntu releases this issue was non-existent08:02
jamescarrTemporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'08:02
zetherooTex_Nick: This has only been occurring with the last 2 or so releases of Ubuntu  - and on all my machines here and at work!08:03
Tex_Nickzetheroo:  ahh ok ... sorry sir i don't know what that issue might be ... is it witgh only one usb stick ?08:04
darkapphey is there a way to partition my harddrive, with an os already on it?08:04
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Jordan_UOgham: Yup, and of course you don't need to reboot immediately, but you can if you want to confirm that everything worked as expected.08:04
darkappbefore installing a new one08:04
zetherooTex_Nick: no, just generally copying large files to USB flash drives takes ages ... it starts off fast and then slows to a crawl08:05
Jordan_Udarkapp: Yes. That's actually a very common thing for users to do to get a dual boot, and Ubuntu's installer handles it quite well.08:06
darkappi mean before the new os is installed08:06
rojie1iMdapt08:06
OghamJordan_U: great thanks, just apt-get purged 3 old ones, took the -extras with em.. and seemed to finish updating the new 3.8.0-25 kernel that failed to install earlier due to lack of space in /boot!08:06
Jordan_UOgham: You're welcome.08:07
darkappJordan_U: is there a way to partition without installing a new os08:08
Jordan_Udarkapp: Yes, you can use GParted or other tools for partitioning.08:08
darkappapt-get install gparted?08:08
pelmenNon on is in ubuntu-arm and ubuntu-boot so I have to ask here... Anyone can help me debug boot on Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1? :) The very same kernel and initramfs boot Debian and Kali Linux but not Ubuntu which just stops somewhere and nothing happens08:08
Jordan_Udarkapp: It's included by default in Ubuntu LiveDVD/USBs.08:08
darkappso im on mint right now08:09
darkappits on my computer?08:09
Tex_Nickzetheroo: i could do some searching ... what distros are you using ?08:09
zetherooTex_Nick: just Ubuntu 12.04 and up08:10
Tex_Nickzetheroo:  what transfer rates are you getting at the beginning & end ?08:10
darkappok got it08:11
darkappthanx Jordan_U08:11
darkappapreciate the help08:11
Tex_Nickzetheroo:  and what file sizes08:11
zetherooTex_Nick: transfer starts at about 25MB/sec and end at about 1MB/sec ... file size is anything from 500MB and up ...08:13
OghamJordan_U: Thanks again! That was very 'automated'! Survived reboot, and previously failed 3.8.0-25 has been installed! :)08:15
OghamCrazy bug though!08:15
darkappok Jordan_U is there anyway to partition encrypted harddrives08:15
Tex_Nickzetheroo: ok i'm looking now ... no promises though ... ask your question every 10 minutes or so, providing all those details ... i'll report back in a few minutes08:16
darkappor unencrypt my current one08:16
zetherooTex_Nick: no worries . thanks08:16
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Tex_Nickzetheroo: man i've done a google search on "ubuntu 12.04 usb file copy slow" i find a LOT of links describing your problem ... it almost looks like a common problem ... i've just always expected usb copies to be kinda slow08:22
Tex_Nickzetheroo:  keep asking here though you'll eventually find someone with a GOOD answer08:24
zetherooTex_Nick: yes, same here ... I have seen a lot of people having this type of issue .. but seems there is no straightforward solution08:24
Tex_Nickzetheroo:  that's kinda what i saw in reading the first 4 search resultas08:25
Tex_Nickresults^08:25
splinter701have you tried benchmarking your usb drive with 'disk utility' (disks in 13.04)?08:25
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Guest19405hi all, any masta-hacka in subject ubuntu server @ amazon ec2 ? have some problems with last official 13.04 image08:26
Guest19405i think it's a bug, want to confirm it before submitting on launchpad08:27
histo!details | Guest1940508:28
ubottuGuest19405: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."08:28
adnauseamhello - did anyone here install a zotero server by any chance ?08:29
histo!anyone | adnauseam08:31
ubottuadnauseam: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.08:31
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Guest19405this describes problem: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/214934 one difference: doing the same tests on 13.04, in short: ubuntu server doesn't gracefully detatch ebs volume, when i force volume to detach from AWS console, there is a lot of traces in dmesg08:33
Guest19405this problem stop us from using ubuntu @ec2, we need mdraid for our db08:36
adnauseamubottu: the problem is there's little to no documentation. i don't know where to exactly begin. which is why i don't know what to ask about. i'd like it if i found someone who's installed a zotero server to know exactly what they've done - because i'm somewhat at a loss personally.08:36
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Guest19405histo: this describes problem: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/214934 one difference: doing the same tests on 13.04, in short: ubuntu server  doesn't gracefully detatch ebs volume, when i force volume to detach from AWS console, there is a lot of traces in dmesg08:39
aloceri just cant get it. i have wasted too much time on this already i m tired of this. wireless speed on ubuntu is half of window$ or Fedora. its annoying.08:40
alocerno packet loss. no anything. WHY !!!!08:40
splinter701could it be a driver issue? Is your NIC supported by ubuntu?08:43
alocersplinter701, yes it is08:44
rojiealocer: hmm08:44
splinter701hmm indeed08:45
splinter701what sort of measurement tools are you using? The same tools using the same measurement units for each OS?08:45
adnauseamalocer: sounds like a frequency issue - try specifying a channel that;s not being used up as the one you're on right now08:45
histoGuest19405: appears to be a bug08:46
alocersplinter701, yes same tools :(08:46
aloceradnauseam, the thing is i have tried that too no diff08:47
adnauseamalocer: siwtch to modified drivers for your card08:47
aloceradnauseam, is there any? and how ? using ndiswrapper ?08:48
adnauseamalocer: what's your model ?08:48
splinter701what tool are you using to test network speed?08:49
adnauseamalocer: if you know which drivers you're using - you can find its modified version if it exists. also how are you measuring this ?08:49
alocerusual internet work .. downloads ... most of the time wget with same options ... i m curious becuz its diffrente between ubuntu and fedora :-|08:50
JoshHas anybody used unetbootin here?08:50
splinter701josh, i've used it08:51
histo!anyone | jos08:52
ubottujos: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.08:52
histoJosh: ^^^^^08:52
aloceradnauseam, splinter701 even copying file between phone and os in wifi ...08:52
histoalocer: it must be the module that is the difference in fedora vs ubuntu08:54
histoalocer: what chipset is your card?08:54
alocerhisto, the module is based on kernel . and fedora is using the same module . so it should be that i m hallucinating ?08:55
alocerhisto, Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)08:56
histoalocer: well then perhaps it's a dns issue. I would check your routes out both and see if you can determine the issue.08:57
alocerhisto, how much time a dns issue will waste , more than 5 seconds ?08:58
Mrdanishhi to all08:58
splinter701alocer, how many times have you tested this issue? It would need to be more than a few times for each OS08:58
Mrdanishanyone from pakistan?08:58
jatt!urdu08:59
rojieMrdanish: 。。08:59
gordonjcpno, but there are a couple of good Pakistani restaurants I eat at08:59
ghost_Data files for some packages could not be downloaded09:00
ghost_The following packages requested additional data downloads after package installation, but the data could not be downloaded or could not be processed.09:00
ghost_flashplugin-installer09:00
ghost_This is a permanent failure that leaves these packages unusable on your system.  You may need to fix your Internet connection, then remove and reinstall the packages to fix this problem.09:00
FloodBot1ghost_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:00
ghost_please help09:00
splinter701have you followed the instructions ghost?09:01
splinter701remove and reinstall that is09:01
histoghost_: sudo apt-get isnnstall flashplugin-installer09:01
alocersplinter701, thats what i tested a vm installed on windows OS one os ubuntu and one os fedora . both recieves same amount of bandwith . monitoring every action on windows . oh and the settings of the Vms are the same . but fedora wil take double of ubuntu . ( i'm not using ubuntu and fedora at same time )09:01
histowow typo09:01
ghost_<FloodBot1> : sorry guys.,.09:02
alocere.g. i have 512Kb internet speed downloading 30MB right now with the speed of 3KB :-(09:04
alocer3KB/s*09:04
vfgbvezavcan I install Mint on a SD CARD?09:04
vfgbvezavcan I install ubuntu on a SD CARD?09:05
DJones!mint | vfgbvezav09:05
ubottuvfgbvezav: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org09:05
ghost_histo : thxz, but do i have to uninstall it first flashplugin-installer09:05
Tex_Nickvfgbvezav: yes09:05
vfgbvezavhi thx, I can use unetbootin?09:05
lshknhi all09:06
histoghost_: you can or --reinstall09:06
Tex_Nickvfgbvezav:  yes ;-)09:06
mark____hello i need urgent need for uubuntu file permission09:06
mark____please09:06
vfgbvezav<Tex_Nick cool thx!09:06
alocerit seems i should stick to windows for internet use :'(09:07
mark____i think you miss my question09:08
alocerthis is the dozen 'th time09:08
lshkni'am new in IRC. How i can get list of public channels on freenode? I trying '/msg Alis HELP LIST' from FAQ, but nothing hepping.09:08
DJonesmark____: You haven't asked a question yet09:08
DJones!details | mark____09:08
ubottumark____: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."09:08
ActionParsnip!alis09:08
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*09:08
Tex_Nickvfgbvezav: see if this helps ... http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/09:08
ActionParsniplshkn: try:   alis list *buntu*09:08
ActionParsniplshkn: with a leading slash09:08
DJoneslshkn: For general help with the Freenode network and its channels you can also ask in #freenode (type /join #freenode) for further assistance09:09
ActionParsniplshkn: sorry:      /msg alis list *buntu*09:09
ghost_histo : ohh., please step by step.,09:09
ActionParsniplshkn: you get the idea09:10
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mark_i need drwxrwxr-x this permisson as i am making directory but i get is -rw-r-----09:11
Guest19405histo: it's in question form on launchpad, should i register bug also?09:11
lshknthanks all )09:11
lshknit's work09:11
hd5770chmod 777?09:11
mark_Djones : are you there???09:12
popeyhd5770: 77509:12
hd5770mark_ chmod 775 <dir>09:13
DJonesmark_: I am, I can see you're already being helped by hd577009:13
hd5770:)09:14
mark_the problem is like  52697c041e41.tar.bz2  i am having but when i am doing  mv 52697c041e41.tar.bz2  .ssh  .It just makes .ssh file but not the directory . i need it to be09:15
ghost_histo : where do you live.,.?09:16
histoghost_: sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer09:18
horsehi all.  I have a machines with a standard /dev/sda1 disk which all partitions are running off.09:18
horseif i want to extend my root partition using LVM is this possible?09:18
mark_Djones: the problem is like  52697c041e41.tar.bz2  i am having but when i am doing  mv 52697c041e41.tar.bz2  .ssh  .It just makes .ssh file but not the directory . i need it to be09:19
Tex_NickActionParsnip: you're a legend in the ubuntu forums & here ... how long have you been working with linux ?09:19
mark_hd57700 : the problem is like  52697c041e41.tar.bz2  i am having but when i am doing  mv 52697c041e41.tar.bz2  .ssh  .It just makes .ssh file but not the directory . i need it to be09:19
ezra-shorse, yes it is possible if you have unassigned space available09:20
mark_i think you again miss my question09:21
horsewhat if i do not ezra-s?09:22
ActionParsnipTex_Nick: linux as a whole, or just ubuntu?09:22
ezra-shorse, you can unassign space from other partitions afaik09:22
histo!lvm | horse09:22
ubottuhorse: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto09:22
ezra-s^^ nice09:22
Tex_NickActionParsnip:  as a whole ... linux09:23
horsehisto - this machine isnt using lvm.09:23
histohorse: Sorry missunderstood. You want to switch to lvm?09:23
ActionParsnipTex_Nick: started on Mandrake 7, 2001 I think09:24
Tex_NickActionParsnip: was just wondering ... i've learned a lot just watching you help others ;-)09:24
ActionParsnipTex_Nick: started Ubuntu at Gutsy (7.10)09:24
ActionParsnipTex_Nick: learning is good, makes the community stronger :)09:24
ActionParsnipTex_Nick: plus you can help others, and so on and so forth09:25
ghost_histo : thanks histo. :D09:25
horsehisto -  i was just wondering if it was possible really09:26
histohorse: if you have freespace yes09:27
user8382Problem with gsynaptics (touch pad controls).  It refuses to disable touchpad tapping, although I have "Disable tapping" checked.  I have to disable tapping and scrolling together, just to disable the tapping, which means I'm going to lose webpage scrolling.09:27
histohorse: you could also just resize other partitions currently there and expand one. The choice is yours.09:27
hd5770mark_ mkdir sss09:27
hd5770mv 2697c041e41.tar.bz2 sss09:28
Tex_NickActionParsnip: yes sir ... it's how the whole world should work ... thanks for your contribution ... you've helped me a lot without even me asking ... and more when you've addressed me directly !!! ;-)\09:28
histomark_: mv somefile .somedirectory/09:29
histomark_: if the directory is there you can move a  file to it.09:29
allanx0Hello need help with "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o venet0 -j MASQUERADE" the reply is iptables: No chain/target/match by that name.. Ive tried to rebuild the OS but still the same error. Anyone? Thanks09:32
saharHello, what we're going to do?09:35
ghost_hello09:35
horseafter adding a new virtual disk to an ubuntu vm should it pick it up automatically like RHEL?09:37
horseis there a command i can use to see/scan attached disks09:37
darkapptry #vbox09:37
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saharbetween lowlatency kernel and generic kernel, wich is best?09:39
horsedarkapp - i think this is more of an OS realted question tbh09:39
darkappok09:39
llutzsahar: if you have to ask, generic is fine09:39
ActionParsnipTex_Nick: no worries dude, you are patient and reasonable so you get helped as best we can :)09:39
saharmay i know, the reason?09:39
emri just installed mysql-server, well prompt didnt ask root password, whats my mysql root pwd?09:40
llutzsahar: if you would need lowlatency (for data-/music-/video-processing), you would know it09:40
llutzsahar: for general purposes, the generic does fine09:40
Tex_NickActionParsnip: TY ^509:41
saharrealy? thanks so much for llutz,09:42
horrow_hello everybody09:43
horrow_i have a stupid question if somebody can help me pls do09:43
saharwhats your question?09:44
darkapp^09:44
horrow_is for pidgin messenger09:44
emrmy mistake, its already installed, i just updated current mysql installation, sorry :s09:44
sahari never hear something like that. :)09:45
DJoneshorrow_: Just ask your question, if anybody knows and is able to help, they'll normally reply09:46
mac_morning all09:46
mac_can someone please explain me, why i can not run gparted from a app launcher? but i need to go to terminal??09:47
horrow_i managed an facebook acc in pidgin messenger then when i open a convers. windows and enter an messeage i see text before my messege like this horroww@chat.facebook.com/183acc6c_4DF55BF89ACA5:09:48
horrow_and want to hide it but dont know how09:48
jnhghyHi, I have a clipper program that I run in dosemu, at some point I have to initialize a script that throws an error(I don't have access to the script or to any code of the clipper program) If I take the same steps on a windows machine(cmd instead of dosemu) everything is fine also running the script on a xp virtual machine that uses unix partitionated hdd throws the error. has anybody have any idea how I can fix this? or I there is another place where I c09:48
jnhghyan go with this issue?09:48
horrow_sry my english is bad09:48
saharhorrow_: where are you from?09:49
horrow_bulgaria09:49
saharmy English is bad too09:50
mac_can someone please explain me, why i can not run gparted from a app launcher? but i need to go to terminal??09:50
mac_stop complaining.. use google or go to scool09:50
horrow_sahar i can send u a screenshot to understand what i mean09:51
saharhahaha,,, you right09:51
DJones!google | mac_09:51
ubottumac_: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.09:51
saharhorrow_,  but im not the expert09:51
mac_DJones... he did not ask..09:51
mac_he was complaining09:52
jnhghymac_ you need to be root to run gparted09:53
mac_i know, thank u09:53
mac_the problem is... i think some index is broken?09:53
splinter701i can launch gparted through synapse with no problems09:54
splinter701what happens when you try that?09:54
mac_i cant run assault cube...09:54
mac_cant run virtual mashineS...09:54
splinter701ok09:54
mac_synapse? like ubuntu software center?09:55
splinter701synapse is an application you can get from the software centre09:55
splinter701its like windows start menu search09:56
splinter701you open it up with a hot key09:56
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mac_aha.. no more hot keys.. please09:56
splinter701then type your app name (or the first couple of letters)09:56
mac_ctrl alt t aint working in kde09:56
Tex_NickDJones : google-fu ... i love that ... someone needs to infuse ubottu with google-fu ???09:56
mac_not just that.. ubotto need mind update09:57
splinter701you may need to go to your keyboard shortcut settings09:57
DJoneshorrow: PIdgin has its own IRC support channel, as you're not getting a reply here, it may be worth asking in #pidgin (type /join #pidgin) If you need support in your own language, you could also join #ubuntu-bg which is the Ubuntu channel with support in Bulgarian09:57
horrowDJones, ok thx09:57
horrow2 mans in my language channel haha09:58
splinter701i just looked back, i was afk when you asked horrow09:59
mac_splinter701.. my keyboard is just ok right now.. i finaly manage to disable all key bindings... its hard to stay normal if my stupid brother goes by, and sudently start smashing my keyboard..09:59
definityHow would i find out waht filesystem a usb stick is in terminal?09:59
auronandacedefinity: what is the output of mount10:00
splinter701horrow go to the account, select "modify account" then go to "user options" and set your local alias, that will appear instead of that long string10:00
horrowsplinter701: ok ill try now thx for info10:00
definityit jsut says data10:00
h22guys, html5 videos on my computer seem to have yellow spots/"snow" on them.. I also get them on flash videos if I enable chrome's flash plugin.10:01
h22how do I solve this?10:01
splinter701i gotta go now10:01
mac_can any1 help me out with launching app by icons and not running its name in terminal10:01
IszakHow can I have a PHP script run automatically in ubuntu 12.04 headless?10:02
saharmac_: maybe you must reinstall your operating system..10:02
horrowsplinter70110:02
horrowi dont have "user options"10:03
horrowthey are set correctly10:03
mac_sahar stop thinking that way10:03
DJonesmac_: This link may help you creating a launcher icon https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles hopefully it'll help anyway10:03
mac_oh,... so sweeet, realy... (totaly sarcastic)10:04
mac_i think some Index has awaked with mistake :/10:04
Ben64mac_: whats with the attitude? DJones gave you a great method to create launchers10:05
mac_yes... launchers... i dont need launchers..10:05
Ben64<mac_> can any1 help me out with launching app by icons and not running its name in terminal10:06
Ben64thats what you described10:06
mac_i asked for help over fixing index of app too.. no response10:06
mac_i haved to be bitchy10:06
h22like this is paid service?10:06
mac_sorry10:06
Ben64mac_: you've been in here for 81 minutes, and all I see you saying is how to launch an application, therefore, you need a launcher10:08
h22Need some help with video drivers here.. :| Yellow "snow" on all my videos (flash and non-flash) on chrome.10:09
mac_ok... i am allready few days walking arround, google-fuing :), pulling my bear out.. aint helping...10:10
mac_ben64, possible on prvt?10:10
h22mac_ What exactly is your question?10:10
h22_launch an application_ from where?10:11
mac_if i try to log-in in ubuntu with gnome shell.. that one did some kind of fall-back10:12
mac_and it looks like a ubunutu 2d10:12
Ben64mac_: focus on one thing at a time10:13
mac_Q? what is wrong with my ubuntu 12.04, that i cant run some app?10:13
Ben64h22: do they work in firefox?10:13
h22flash = yes, html5 videos = no10:14
Ben64well firefox doesn't support a whole lot of html5 video stuff yet10:14
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h22Ben64: I believe the yellow spots on flash videos and those on html5 videos are unrelated.. and I've found that using a older flash plugin solves the problem for flash videos.. but html5 videos are still messy10:15
h22And firefox by default uses the older flash plugin.10:16
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Ben64well chrome comes with its own, pepper based flash plugin10:16
Ben64adobe stopped making flash for linux10:16
mac_What is wrong with my ubuntu 12.04 lts, that i cant run some app?10:16
h22Ben64: Yes, Disabling that solves the problem for flash videos.10:16
Ben64!details | mac_10:16
ubottumac_: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."10:16
mac_i am running a ubuntu 12.04 lts, and i cant run some app.. i am a damn newb..10:17
mac_better?10:17
qurskguys after searching on web10:18
Ben64mac_: what app, whats the error?!10:18
qurski couldnt get the idea of PPA10:18
Ben64mac_: we cannot read your mind10:18
mac_i know...10:18
qurskwhat is it or any resources will be appreciated10:18
Ben64!ppa | qursk10:18
ubottuqursk: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge10:18
qurskaham10:18
qurskgot it !10:18
qurskthanks !10:18
qurskand repisetory ?10:19
mac_some app. dont appear at all... other ones are there, but on a mause click, running indicator starts.. but.. thats all... i needet gparted, and after a password check... nothing happens10:19
h22qursk: Thirdparty devs use ppa to channel updates to their apps10:19
Ben64!repo | qursk10:19
ubottuqursk: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.10:19
mac_only if run in terminal i can run some of installed apps, progs...10:19
h22qursk: repos are the place where you download the software from10:19
Ben64mac_: gparted should be in the menu, what happens when you click it?10:21
mac_ but on a mause click, running indicator starts.. but.. thats all... i needet gparted, and after a password check... nothing happens10:21
Ben64yeah you said that, could you explain it better10:21
mac_nothing visual is happening after given password?10:22
mac_i realy dont know, how precise shell i go over this...10:22
Ben64mac_: open up a terminal and type "gparted-pkexec"10:23
mac_am... i have 6 terminals... is any1 ok?10:23
Ben64yes10:23
mac_ben???10:24
JoshSo, I burned a CD with the iso of 64 bit ubuntu10:24
JoshOn desktop it works fine10:24
mac_please check prvt msg10:24
JoshBut on laptop, it says, "error: can't read file"10:24
JoshAny idea whats up?10:24
h22Josh: your laptop's 64 too?10:25
JoshYes.10:25
Ben64mac_: what happens if you do "echo $DISPLAY"10:25
JoshIts intel i5 3rd generation 64 Bit10:25
mac_:010:25
mac_??10:25
mac_smiley shows?10:25
Ben64now... "DISPLAY=:0 xterm"10:26
mac_another terminal window has started10:26
Ben64then your system has some kind of permissions problem, not sure what you did10:27
mac_ZERO OR O?10:27
Ben64its a zero10:27
Ben64you must have done something strange on your system to cause this problem10:28
mac_got another terminal window10:28
mac_i know... i need to kill my brother... before his stupidity makes me gray10:29
dopiehow do i change directory owners?10:29
dopieinstead of root10:29
dopieid like guyname10:29
ezra-schown user:group file or dir10:29
hd5770chown huyname10:29
hd5770ezra beat me :P10:30
mac_am... i remember.. to see msg looking something like that... Index brocken10:30
gotwigx10:30
ezra-s:P10:30
ezra-sdopie, check chown --help or man chown for further details10:31
mac_so.. definitely i need to reinstall the whole ubuntu?10:31
JoshI had to disable UEFI boot10:31
Joshand it worked.10:31
dopiedrwxrwxr-x 2 pares101 sudo     4096 Jun 17 08:41 releases10:32
JoshAnyone has any idea what UEFI boot is?10:32
JoshI tried to read on Wikipedia10:32
JoshWent bit over my head when I skimmed through.10:32
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Ben64mac_: how did you get to x?10:32
mac_x?10:32
Ben64mac_: the graphical interface10:33
mac_same as with MS windows ? it start-up on boot10:34
Ben64reinstalling would probably be easier than figuring out what is the problem10:35
mac_i put gnome enviorment.. but.. it kicked me to failsafe.. and my gnome 3 looks like ubuntu 2d10:35
qurskguys is there any redhack channel ?10:35
qurskcause 'm having an issue for instlaling on virtualbox10:35
DJonesqursk: redhack? Was that meant to be redhat?10:36
h22guys, I need to permanently add a flag to an app.. How do I do that?10:36
DJonesqursk: If it was meant to be redhat, try #rhel on freenode10:37
mark_mark@mark-VirtualBox:~$ mv 59586a067f4.tar.bz2 .ssh mv: cannot move `59586a067f4.tar.bz2' to `.ssh/59586a067.tar.bz2': Permission denied ... pplease help10:38
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Znooseymark_, when in doubt, sudo10:39
DJonesmark_: Is the .ssh folder in your root directory, or is it a folder in your /home folder10:39
DJonesmark_: Depending on which it is, you'll need to change the command you're using10:40
qurskthank you guys !10:40
mac_ben?10:42
lagAny udisk pros around?10:43
Tex_NickI have my grandkids pc (13.04) setup to bypass grub & lightdm ( just login to their desktop on start-up ) I also have "Real VNC" set to run in "Startup Applications" so I can vnc into that box to see what they are doing ... but mainly to update their system ... I would prefer to NOT have "Real VNC" running all the time ... i'm able to SSH into that box though ... am having problems starting "Real VNC" under SSH ... would kinda like to s10:43
Tex_Nickee the desktop (gui)10:43
lagOr udisks, I think I should say10:43
mac_if i install ubuntu 12.04 lts.. on 1 computer... can it be somehow copied to another comp? l10:44
qurskyeah10:44
qurskim having probvlems by finding10:44
qursksingle iso files too10:44
qurskx86 iso files of rhel10:44
mark_Djones: home folder..but you can please tell for both root also10:45
DJonesmark_:  Try mv 59586a067f4.tar.bz2 ~/.ssh to copy the file into your .ssh folder in your home directory10:46
DJonesmark_: If you just want to copy (rather than move the file) use 'cp' rather than 'mv'10:47
mark_Djones :mark@mark-VirtualBox:~$  mkdir .ssh mkdir: cannot create directory10:49
mark_Djones :  i think you miss my question10:52
h22where on the filesystem can I find all the installed apps?10:55
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h22^ the applications that are launch-able, from the gnome-shell10:55
bipulJust use this command in terminal  which <Name of file> You will know the position of files.10:57
bipulh22,  Just use this command in terminal  which <Name of file> You will know the position of files.10:57
h22^ I don't understand that.. but I was looking for all the .desktop files.10:58
chilibluehi, my notebook ethernet adapter isn't showing up... not there in the dmesg log or lspci.11:00
chiliblueshow the ethernet controller show up with lspci even if there is no module for it?11:03
ActionParsnipchiliblue: try:  sudo lshw -C network11:04
leehambleyhi all, I'm looking for a way to stop apache2,samba and netatalk starting when installed via apt, I keep running into this: http://lifeonubuntu.com/how-to-prevent-server-daemons-from-starting-during-apt-get-install/ solution, and can't help thinking "that's an ugly hack" - but I also can't find much information on how to properly use policy-rc.d11:06
ActionParsnipleehambley: i believe in the postinst, they are started...11:06
jribleehambley: zless /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.policy-rc.d.gz   I believe is the documentation you seek11:07
leehambleyActionParsnip: right, and invoke-rc.d should consult /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d if it exists11:07
leehambleysure jrib: I can create a script there that accepts those options, and if apache2/nginx/samba./netatalk are listed, return 105 or similar… but that documentation also reads "MUST BE MANAGED BY THE ALTERNATIVES SYSTEM"11:07
leehambleyso it looks like I'd be doing something pretty risky if I just drop a ruby/bash script in there?11:08
jribleehambley: ... by any package providing it11:08
leehambleyfair call… so I can drop something that just exits with the code if arg matches11:08
leehambleythanks for the sanity check jrib11:09
jribleehambley: you can see a more authoritative document pointing to policy-rc.d here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch3.en.html (search for policy-rc.d)11:09
neiborsHi all!  I need help in one problem: when I installed Ubuntu I formated HDD (to 2 parts). First parts I formated for using in ubuntu, second...well... I'm skipped the hard drive marking ... How i can now mark second part of HDD for using in ubuntu?11:10
leehambleyahh: invoke-rc.d support is mandatory in Debian, which means that for Debian 4.0 etch and later releases you can write a policy-rc.d file that forbids starting new daemons before you configure them. Although no such scripts are packaged yet, they are quite simple to write. See policyrcd-script-zg2.11:10
leehambleythanks again11:10
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BluesKajHiyas all11:11
ActionParsnipneibors: leave it unpartitioned and the installer will see the free space and install to it (is that what you mean?)11:11
jribleehambley: no problem11:11
Tex_Nickif i can SSH into a box on my LAN ... shouldn't it be easy to start the "Real VNC Server" usr/bin/vncserverui ???11:15
MOUDHey all11:15
juliustemptest11:15
MOUDHow can I install ubuntu on a flash drive?11:16
neiborsActionParsnip, Hmm... How I can launch installer for this? I can't see free space in my system. Where I can see all unmarked space?11:17
neiborsMOUD, Live-USB or for install?11:17
DJonesMOUD: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent11:17
MOUDneibors: install but on a usb. I dont want the "try" / "install" always appearing when booting11:18
neiborsMOUD, I think it is"Live-USB". Read message from DJones11:20
MOUDIm reading it, thanks for the link DJones11:21
AceKingFor about the last week, I have been having trouble viewing youtube videos. I keep getting an error: "An error occurred, please try again later" I tried unistalling, and reinstalling flash plugin, and same for java. Nothing worked. Can someone help me with this?11:21
jribAceKing: those sound like server-side issues11:22
AceKingI tried in both Firefox and Chromium, and same thing happens in both browsers11:22
ubuntu___Hey11:22
jribAceKing: does it happen every time for every video?11:22
ubuntu___How to install "ASSIMP" library in ubuntu?11:22
ubuntu___It's an OpenGL lib.11:23
jrib!software | ubuntu___11:23
ubottuubuntu___: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents11:23
jribubuntu___: apt-cache search assimp11:23
AceKingjrib: No, once in a great while, one of the videos will work11:23
ubuntu___Thanks. Tho "E: Unable to locate package assimp11:24
jribubuntu___: you did not type the command I gave you11:24
ubuntu___jrib: Your command output was: Nothing11:24
ubuntu___jrib: So I guess it worked11:24
jribubuntu___: run "sudo apt-get update" and try again.  If you still have no output, pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update"11:24
jribAceKing: google suggests clearing your cookies11:25
ubuntu___jrib: Done. Still nothing. Ok.11:25
ActionParsnip!find assimp11:26
ubottuFound: assimp-utils, libapache2-authcassimple-perl, libassimp-dev, libassimp-doc, libassimp311:26
jribAceKing: also, disable extensions11:26
AceKingjrib: I am getting an output. do you want me to pastebin?11:26
jribAceKing: no output from what?11:26
ActionParsnipubuntu___: sudo apt-get install assimp-utils11:26
ubuntu___jrib: http://pastebin.com/6AAX50BK11:27
AceKingjrib: you wanted me to run the command "apt-cache search assimp" right?11:27
jribAceKing: no11:27
AceKingjrib: ooops, sorry11:27
ubuntu___ActionParsnip: "... E: Unable to locate package assimp-utils"11:27
jribAceKing: disable your extensions11:28
jribAceKing: (and clear cookies again)11:28
AceKingjrib: OK11:28
jrib!repos | ubuntu___11:28
ubottuubuntu___: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories.11:28
jribubuntu___: you need to enable the universe repository11:28
ubuntu___jrib: Oh.11:28
jribAceKing: and clear your cache... I'm mostly just reading: http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/93931411:29
ActionParsnipubuntu___: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue11:30
AceKingjrib: On Firefox, I have it set to private all the time. It does not store any history.11:30
ubuntu___ActionParsnip: "Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l"11:30
ActionParsnip!find assimp quantal11:30
ubottuFound: assimp-utils, libapache2-authcassimple-perl, libassimp-dev, libassimp-doc, libassimp311:30
jribAceKing: probably still caches thing (maybe?).  Anyway, see what happens if you unset that11:30
ActionParsnip!info assimp-utils quantal | ubuntu___11:30
ubottuubuntu___: assimp-utils (source: assimp): 3D model import library (utilities). In component universe, is extra. Version 3.0~dfsg-1 (quantal), package size 197 kB, installed size 386 kB11:30
AceKingjrib: OK11:31
ActionParsnipubuntu___: " In component universe " enable the universe repo11:31
ubuntu___ActionParsnip: I did. "System Settings -> Software Sources -> universe [check]"11:32
AceKingjrib: disabled extensions, and still doing same thing.11:32
AceKingjrib: again, it's doing it on both Firefox and chromium. I don't use Chromium in privacy mode, so I cleared the history, and disabled addons.11:34
gryhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/92377/installing-xulrunner-adding-mozilla-daily-ppa-doesnt-help "After few reading then it looks like Canonical removed XULRunner from repos" why?11:34
BluesKajAceKing, run sudo apt-get update-alternatives ..see if that helps11:35
AceKingBluesKaj: OK11:35
AceKingBluesKaj: When I run that command, I get "Invalid operation update-alternatives"11:36
ActionParsnipgry: https://launchpad.net/xulrunner   not been updated for a while, could ask aLEX sACK WHY....11:36
ActionParsnipgry: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9.2/+changelog11:37
phiqL11:42
MOUDMethod 3 installation is a headache :s11:44
ubuntu___jrib: Thanks. It works after apt-get update once more.11:46
ubuntu___ActionParsnip: Thanks. It works.11:46
jribubuntu___: great11:46
jribAceKing: it's not about clearing history, it's about clearing cookies and cache according to that link I sent you11:47
jribAceKing: do know though that I have received that message in the past and I just refresh a minute later and the video plays fine.  It's not very often for me though11:48
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MOUDCan I install ubuntu using only fat32?11:50
AceKingjrib: I cleared everything on both browsers, and still nothing. The funny thing is, if I run my mouse along the time frame of the video, I can see the small popup showing the video, but if I try clicking to advance to that point, it doesn't go11:50
BluesKajAceKing,  sudo update-alternatives --config  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so11:51
ActionParsnipMOUD: FAT32 is not complex enough for Ubuntu to be held on11:53
ActionParsnipMOUD: you can make a FAT32 partition then make the install media using it but the actual install will need to be on a Linux partition of some sort11:54
AceKingBluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5773738/11:54
MOUDActionParsnip: I was afraid of that, thanks for the info11:56
BluesKajAceKing, it's pointing to /etc/alternatives which is correct , so I'm not sure what the problem is.11:57
dopietouch: cannot touch `production.log': Permission denied11:58
AceKingBluesKaj: OK11:59
dopie ls -l log/12:00
dopietotal 012:01
dopiewth12:01
bgardner!details | dopie12:02
ubottudopie: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."12:02
dopie-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jun 17 12:03 production.log12:03
dopiei want to switch to use pares101 and give it rwx12:03
Ben64dopie: "man chown" and "man chmod"12:04
JesseHWhats a fast desktop environment?12:07
JesseHfor a slow computer*12:07
DJonesJesseH: Maybe look at LXDE or XFCE they're aimed at lower spec machines so should be more capeable on a slow machine12:08
ezra-sJesseH, define slow computer, cpu, gpu, ram, etc..12:10
CalimeroTekniksay, I ran locale-gen fr_FR.UTF-8 ; LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 nano and it's in English12:19
CalimeroTeknikdid I miss something there?12:19
ezra-sCalimeroTeknik, maybe it is not translated to French, but I'm just trying to guess12:20
CalimeroTeknikit is.12:20
CalimeroTeknikthis works on other distributions12:20
CalimeroTeknikwhatever the environment variables set12:20
CalimeroTeknikactually, I've tried for two days to set the locale on ubuntu in the past on a production server I couldn't reinstall, and I never, never could give it a locale.12:21
ezra-sCalimeroTeknik, did you use --purge in locale-gen?12:22
CalimeroTeknikuh? this is a fresh chroot.12:22
CalimeroTeknikinstalled with debootstrap to try things, it's 12.0412:22
ezra-sCalimeroTeknik, try "cat /etc/default/locale"12:23
CalimeroTeknikso I thought I'd tackle the problem of the locale that was a failure last time12:23
ezra-ssee what's in there12:23
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CalimeroTeknikwell I just ran update-locale LANG=fr_FR.UTF-812:23
CalimeroTeknikso cat /etc/default/locale says  LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 of course.12:24
ActionParsnipCalimeroTeknik: could use localepurge, it will leave only the locales you state (or just use one for simplicity)12:24
CalimeroTeknikokay… I think I generated one anyway.12:25
CalimeroTeknikthere is no such command12:25
CalimeroTeknikplus this is ubuntu (or debian)-specific12:26
CalimeroTeknikwhereas locale-gen is a part of libc, and update-locale just edits /etc/default/locale12:26
ezra-sCalimeroTeknik, if you are certain you have found a bug, report it12:26
ezra-sI can't think of anything else12:27
CalimeroTeknikno. I just don't know how you put a locale on ubuntu12:27
ezra-smy locale works so I don't know what you could be missing12:27
CalimeroTeknikapparently the installer sets it alright, but it seems ubuntu hacked this so much that libc is beyond recognition12:27
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CalimeroTeknikand I didn't use an installer but debootstrap12:28
CalimeroTeknikso this is a fail? I could say I wasn't sure if the previous server was a clean install, but this is.12:28
ActionParsnipCalimeroTeknik: tried localepurge?12:28
CalimeroTeknikno such command12:29
CalimeroTeknikalso there is nothing to purge.12:29
CalimeroTeknikcould you explain how I run "localepurge" ?12:30
ezra-sActionParsnip, I believe you mean locale-gen --purge12:30
CalimeroTeknikapt-something localepurge ?12:30
ActionParsnipCalimeroTeknik: sudo apt-get install localepurge12:30
ActionParsnip!info localepurge12:30
ubottulocalepurge (source: localepurge): Reclaim disk space removing unneeded localizations. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.3 (raring), package size 32 kB, installed size 133 kB12:30
CalimeroTeknikokay it's done12:30
CalimeroTekniklocale-gen --purge12:30
ezra-slocalepurge is something else12:31
ezra-sdid it work?12:31
CalimeroTeknikhey hey, guys. unneeded localizations shouldn't prevent me from having one12:31
CalimeroTeknikno, as expected nothing changed12:31
ActionParsnipCalimeroTeknik: you set the locale you want to keep and it sets hthe locale12:31
CalimeroTeknikI'm getting the feeling I miss something there, just as last time12:31
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CalimeroTeknikwell, date is in French alright, so maybe ubuntu doesn't include localization for nano in its package12:34
CalimeroTeknikthat is impossible12:34
hayhi all.. I am stuck at "linux-server depends on linux-image-server (= 3.2.0.37.44); however: Version of linux-image-server on system is 3.2.0.48.58." and am unable to fix it via apt-get -f install... what are the neccessary steps to move further? thanks!12:35
CalimeroTeknikwell actually that's it. nano is not available in French on ubuntu. okay12:35
CalimeroTeknikneither is bash12:35
CalimeroTeknikthis is getting strange12:36
ActionParsniphay: could download the deb manually and install it to satisfy the dep12:36
ActionParsniphay: are there bugs reported?12:36
ezra-slol12:36
CalimeroTeknikbash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (fr_FR.UTF-8)12:37
CalimeroTeknikwait, what does that even mean?12:37
hayActionParsnip, why after all does linux-server depend on some older version of linux-image-server?12:37
ezra-sCalimeroTeknik, I believe (I'm not an expert in the matter at all) ubuntu comes with language packs, maybe you are missing those12:38
CalimeroTeknikwhat! again, ubuntu doesn't package bash with locale files!12:38
CalimeroTeknikah, maybe there is a pack indeed, not some bash-i18n12:38
ezra-sCalimeroTeknik, do a apt-cache search language-pack-fr12:38
ezra-schances are what you seek are in those12:39
CalimeroTeknikindeed, indeed, thanks12:39
CalimeroTeknikthis is getting understandable12:39
ezra-shehehe12:39
CalimeroTeknikI was "what" seeing the output of dpkg -L nano, then dpkg -L bash12:39
CalimeroTeknikstarting to feel that something isn't right, not a single .mo file12:40
ActionParsniphay: not sure, maybe its a bug in the metapackage12:40
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CalimeroTeknikI mean, in my distro, software comes with its localization files in all available languages12:40
ezra-sCalimeroTeknik, ubuntu by default asks for your language and installs your language packs I believe12:41
CalimeroTeknikit doesn't when you debootstrap, obviously :)12:41
* ezra-s can't think of a funny reply, remains in silence :P12:42
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guiyoudo12:47
CalimeroTekniknow this was an interesting contribution.12:48
CalimeroTeknikhe could've gone so far as to saying "do raptors… ?"12:49
CalimeroTeknik(-ing ?)12:49
Kroachhow do I sent a NotifyOSD confirmation bubble with notify-send?12:50
MagicarpMy intake fan (3pin) is always around 1100RPM. How do I use 'fancontrol' to say what RPM to go at when the CPU reaches X temp12:50
ezra-sCalimeroTeknik, he meant "doh!"12:52
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usr13Magicarp: http://linux.die.net/man/8/fancontrol12:53
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minimecMagicarp: At my knowledge, you cannot really influence that anymore on newer computers. It is not the os that handles this, but the BIOS. You may have some options like 'target fan speed' or so in the BIOS settings. What you can do, is to use a kernel with 'undervolting' function, to lower fan speed.12:54
ezra-sFan need to be plugged to motherboard for control also, most "in-take" fans are just connected to the PSU, unless he meant a cpu fan12:56
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BabyCat Hi folks, I'm having networking problems and I've narrowed it down to the ubuntu operating system.. Where can I go to figure out how to solve this networking problem?  It keeps me online for a few mintues and kicks me off... Doesn't seem a router problem cause the windows laptop never gets kicked off, just Ubuntu.. I'm using 12.0312:57
BabyCat412:57
splinter701is this on wifi babycat?12:58
BabyCatyeah. it is..12:58
Ari-Yangperhaps try proprietary wifi driver?12:58
usr13BabyCat: Wireless or Wired?12:58
BabyCatwell.. the networking card I have is a Linux card.. brand new.. 450 mps.. nice one :)12:59
BabyCatLoL!12:59
soa2iiHi. What's the difference between linux-signed-generic-lts-quantal and linux-generic-lts-quantal?12:59
BabyCatit seems when I turn off the network and restart it, I get networking for another couple minutes12:59
BabyCatso I think cause of that, it's the operating system..12:59
soa2iiOh and linux-signed-image-generic-lts-quantal …12:59
BabyCatit doesn't tell me it's offline, just loops and never comes out12:59
usr13BabyCat: Look at  iwconfig  and see what the signal report is.  (If the signal report is poor, that is more-than-likely the problem.)12:59
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Walex2soa2ii: UEFI BIOSes13:00
CakeIsAwesomeHow to register? :-s13:00
soa2iiWalex2: Ah … the signed one is for secureboot?13:00
Walex2soa2ii: yes13:00
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soa2iiok … thanks13:00
usr13BabyCat: Show us iwconfig.  iwconfig | pastebinit13:00
usr13BabyCat: (When connected)13:01
BabyCatI got it..13:01
BabyCatI'm new to IRC thought..13:01
BabyCatpaste bin it13:01
BabyCat?13:01
usr13BabyCat:  iwconfig | pastebinit  #Send resulting URL here.13:01
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Dillholiotor stable browser bundle is missing from the tor site (file not found) anyone know if it's available?13:02
minimecBabyCat: Is this a wireless 'n' connection? If yes, I would try to step back to a wireless 'g' connection. As I see, you get the connection, but it is very unstable. Wireless 'g'  might do the trick.13:03
usr13BabyCat: Also tell us what lspci says about your wifi device.  lspci |grep ireless13:03
Dillholiolol I'm on the wrong channel13:04
Dillholiopft13:04
leehambleyjrib: FWIW this worked perfectly: https://gist.github.com/leehambley/579672013:06
jribleehambley: cool13:07
leehambleyI'd have preferred to use Bash for the scripting, but having Ruby swallow the two optional arguments was a bit easier, thanks for the tip!13:07
noiroAnyone know a workaround for the file-roller bug with adding files to archives?13:12
sarah83uhm... where's the alternative downloads and stuff?13:12
samuelsonhello, am a newbie13:13
Tex_Nicksarah83:  ??? please explain13:14
sarah83what else can i say...13:14
sarah83i want the alternative downloads13:14
jrib!alternative | sarah8313:15
ubottusarah83: The alternate CD has been discontinued for the main Ubuntu distro, please use and report any bugs in the !LiveCD13:15
jribsarah83: you can use the minimal install or server install instead13:15
sarah83jrib: where are they?!13:15
jrib!minimal | sarah8313:15
ubottusarah83: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD13:15
ZeevI don't know if it's ubuntu question but in term up&down arrows work fine (ubuntu 12.04) but in some interpreter like ocaml when I press up/down arrows I get ^[[D characters anyone know how to get rid of those & make arrows work?13:15
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sarah83jrib: thanks but im pretty sure ive seen 13.10?13:16
jrib!13.10 | sarah8313:16
ubottusarah83: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+113:16
jribsarah83: 13.10 is still in development and hasn't been released yet13:16
sarah83jrib: not even for testing?13:16
jribsarah83: #ubuntu+1 can help you with that13:16
sarah83:(13:17
Ben64of course, if you google for ubuntu 13.10 download, it's quite easy to find13:17
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statlZeev: You can't. Your shell most likely uses gnu readline to provide those extra features. If that particular program doesn't use such a library for input, it will not support such features.13:20
Zeevmaybe I can change my default shell? I've been suggested in ocaml to use "rlwrap ocaml" heh13:21
jribZeev, statl: you can pass interpreters through some other program to give it readline features though I can't remember the name at the moment.  If you search through search results for "apt-cache search readline" you canprobably find it13:21
qurskare you guys using kali in usb, virtualisation or as default OS ?13:21
foobArrrare there any gui file managers with miller columns besides marlin? dolphin dropped columns some time ago, and marlin segfaults. :/13:21
jribZeev: rlwrap is it, yes13:21
statljrib: interesting. Didn't know that. Thanks!13:22
minimecfoobArrr: Pantheon Files is a fork of Marlin. MAybe it's in better shape. It is the file manager of the elementary OS. https://launchpad.net/~elementary-os/+archive/daily13:26
foobArrrminimec: thanks, I'll take a look13:27
Kartagiswhy have I been getting "Couldn't upload the file, check your internet settings" when I drop a png file on Drop to share shortcut since I moved to 13.04?13:28
javierbuilderhello how calibrate the usb multitouch ?13:35
Ububegini just did this to my ubuntu 12.04... sudo do-release-upgrade -d... the upgrade is running for almost 40 mins... wtf is happening13:36
wheatthinUbubegin, it's doing a full upgrade13:37
BluesKajUbubegin, your OS is upgrading to the next release13:37
acerimmerUbubegin, pretty much depends on how fast your ISP is right?13:37
UbubeginUbubegin : Next release... not 13.0413:37
UbubeginBluesKaj, Next release , not 13.04 ah13:38
BluesKajUbubegin, the -d is not a good idea for an LTS \13:38
wheatthinacerimmer, not necassarily, depends on which service he's getting it from13:38
acerimmer!mirror13:38
ubottuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Raring, and help keeping the servers' load low!13:38
UbubeginBluesKaj, Can I abort this now ?13:38
IdleOneUbubegin: are you still in the downloading stage?13:38
wheatthinacerimmer, doesn't help him judge which ones faster :)..13:39
acerimmerwheatthin, so true.  blushing to admit I didn't know I could localize my mirror for the first 4 years of my ubuntu use13:39
IdleOneor have packages started to install?13:39
UbubeginIdleOne, some packages have installed... I suppose.. its been close to 40 mins13:39
wheatthinnetherlands is fastest for me, and I'm in California, USA :)13:39
IdleOneUbubegin: guessing is not going to help. What is the terminal doing at this moment13:40
IdleOne?13:40
UbubeginIdleOne, Selecting previously unselected package nmap.13:40
UbubeginUnpacking nmap (from .../nmap_6.00-0.1_i386.deb)13:40
reisiowell geographic proximity matters, but so does bandwidth13:41
reisioI believe the mirrors are listed in order of bandwidth13:41
IdleOnehmm, should be safe for you to ctrl-c . it hasn't starting installing yet.13:41
BluesKajUbubegin, the -d means you are installing a dvelopment release , which will probly break your system anyway since you skipped 13.04 and are going directly to 13.1013:41
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wheatthinBluesKaj, it won't break his system.. just might make it unstable13:42
IdleOneUbubegin: hit ctrl-c and cancel the process. like BluesKaj has pointed out if cancelling now doesn't break the install, completing the upgrade definitely will.13:42
BluesKajwheatthin, well we can only hope :P13:43
* acerimmer ... thinks you shouldn't touch the terminal without at least a learner's permit13:44
wheatthinlol how else do you learn?13:45
Ari-Yang^13:45
Ari-Yangis ubuntu 13.04 suppose to be better for laptops than 12.10? j/w (just wondering)13:45
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reisioAri-Yang: I'm sure it's _supposed_ to be better, or they wouldn't release it13:47
Ari-YangI'm tempted to upgrade from 12.10....13:48
wheatthinit's doable13:48
reisioupgrading to new releases is quite a sane notion, ordinarily13:48
Ari-Yangif I do so, all of the PPAs and programs I installed via those PPAs will be updated to 13.04 PPAs, yes?13:48
reisioless so with Ubuntu, IME, but in general still a good notion :p13:48
wheatthinnope, temporarily disabled13:49
Ari-Yangoh?13:49
Ari-Yangso then I have to re-enable them?13:49
wheatthinyup13:49
wheatthinfollowed by apt-get update && apt-get upgrade13:50
BluesKajAri-Yang, the sources upgrade to the release chosen13:50
gaauudhi all, i'm having difficulty installing ubuntu on virtualbox and/or parallels. ubuntu always boots in low graphics mode and the screen resolution is very low (800x600)13:50
Ari-Yang*nod*13:51
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HElephantHaving an issue, could anyone help?13:52
HElephant(lubuntu)13:52
MonkeyDustHElephant  start with a quetion13:52
MonkeyDustquestion*13:52
Pici*another question, the real one.13:52
Ari-Yangthere's also #lubuntu13:53
Ari-Yang!lubuntu13:53
ubottulubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.13:53
HElephantI'm trying to install Lubuntu on my old laptop, Pentinum 3, ~480MB RAM. I pop in the CD/USB and choose my language and choose to install. Then after loading files it says "Starting LightDM Display Manager [OK]" with the lubuntu logo.13:54
HElephantAri-Yang, I've been there, I am there now. It's kind of dead.13:54
Ari-Yang*nod*13:55
reisioHElephant: and then?13:55
HElephant And then... nothing. That's all that happends. The "Starting LightDM Display Manager [OK]" with the lubuntu logo for two seconds, then a black screen for 5 seconds, then it repeats.13:55
reisioHElephant: CTRL+ALT+F2, grep EE /var/log/Xorg*log13:57
ActionParsnipHElephant: what video chip do you use>13:58
HElephantreisio, should I do this when I get the problem or before the installation?13:58
HElephantActionParsnip, urgh, some ATI Rage card.13:59
reisioHElephant: to try and fix it13:59
reisioyou could also fix it from a graphical environment by booting up the install media again, and doing 'try' instead of 'install'13:59
reisiobut that'll take longer (at least to someone who can stand being outside of X)14:00
reisiobbl14:00
HElephantreisio, but should I do this before or after I get "Starting LightDM Display Manager [OK]"?14:00
adamk_helgikrs1: Are you get that last line, login at the console and run 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'.14:03
adamk_D'oh.14:03
adamk_Wrong person, sorry.14:03
adamk_HElephant: After you get that last line, run 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'. You might need to install pastebinit first with apt-get.14:03
HElephantadamk_, are you sure I can do this without an proper installation?14:04
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designbybeck__I'm trying to edit an "auto.sh" script for Guest Session. I have the code reading like I want, but the dialog box is so big you can't see the ok button? Any suggestions? : http://www.pasteall.org/4323514:09
adamk_HElephant: Well you can certainly try :-)14:12
adamk_HElephant: Worst case scenario is that it doesn't work.14:12
designbybeck__I'm not sure what kind of script it is, I'm just trying to make the dialog box smaller in size. For some reason it has a bunch of blank space: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/420414:18
designbybeck__oops, wrong link14:18
designbybeck__http://www.pasteall.org/4323514:19
elijahHey guys, my gitg --version lists 0.2.5.0 but sudo apt-cache show gitg lshows 0.2.5.1~exp0 is available. How can I get this newer version?14:20
raubHow small can I make an ubuntu server install? Just want it barebones and then I will add bind and dhcp to it14:21
elijahubuntulog: help14:21
elijahubottu: help14:21
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:21
HElephantadamk_, couldn't barely get into CTRL + ALT + F214:22
HElephantcould barely*14:22
Ari-Yangelij, did you try the 'Software Updater'???14:22
Ari-Yang* elijah ^14:22
elijahAri-Yang: yes, software updater doesn't list anything new14:23
faulkmorewhat is the point of ctrl+alt+F214:23
SonikkuAmericafaulkmore: tty14:23
Ari-Yangelijah, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in terminal14:24
Yoshi1which ubuuntu would you recommand for a mini?14:24
Ari-Yang!dist-upgrade14:24
ubottuA dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.14:24
elijahI am thinking "~exp0" means experimental though14:24
faulkmoreHow do i know how out of date my dist is?14:25
faulkmoreNeed to know when is a good time to use dist-upgrade14:25
kekkohello devolopers14:26
DJonesfaulkmore: What version are you using14:26
acerimmerfaulkmore, I generally run dist-upgrade once a week ...14:26
faulkmorelubuntu 12.0414:26
designbybeck__ActionParsnip: might you know a thing about bash scripts? At least I think it is bash: http://www.pasteall.org/4323514:26
faulkmorei never knew about the dist-upgrade command14:27
javierbuilderhow configure multitopuch  screen   ?14:28
javierbuilderxinput fails14:28
faulkmoreDoesn't the Upgrade Manager also do the dist-upgrade?14:28
kekkoWhat do you tihink of ubuntu touch?14:28
acerimmer!touch|kekko,14:28
ubottukekko,: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch14:28
DJonesfaulkmore: Lubuntu 12.04 is not an LTS (5 years support), but a standard release that is supported for 18 months, so that will become unsupported in October 201314:28
adamk_HElephant: So by saying you could barely get in, you are saying that you *did* get in.  So now run the pastebinit command I gave earlier.14:29
Ari-Yangfaulkmore, pretty much yes. But when Software Updater fails, I run dist-upgrade (and it fails for me when I've been slacking on updates and there are over 15-20 updates)14:29
kekkokubuntu is bad?14:29
Ari-Yangdefine "bad"14:29
HElephantadamk_, after 5 sec it closed down all processes and shut down.14:29
faulkmoreI shut the upgrade manager off cuz it was annoying14:29
kekkoorrible14:29
faulkmorethanks for the advice14:30
kekkothis chat is very GOOD14:30
acerimmerkekko, not very definitive response.  I've used kubuntu but prefer Ubuntustudio.  To each his own.14:30
kekkothanks for your answer14:30
elijahAri-Yang: dis-upgrade doesn't list anything to do14:30
faulkmorei've used the upgrade manager with over 300 upgrades needed. Never had any problems14:30
kekkowow14:31
Ari-Yangelijah, you sure you typed in dist-upgrade and not dis-upgrade (which you just typed)?14:31
Ari-Yangand if it doesn't, I dunno then14:31
Ari-Yangmaybe going to the PPA's launchpad page or something, you can download the .deb of the latest  version there?14:32
anup_grindmozilla14:33
elijahAri-Yang: Correct, it went throught the process and list 0 items to upgrade14:33
kekkomac os x is set on linux?14:33
acerimmer!ot|kekko,14:33
ubottukekko,: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:33
kekkoIsn't imported14:34
elijahAri-Yang: sudo apt-get install gitg=0.2.5.1~exp014:34
raubkekko: it's based obn bsd, not linux14:34
elijahAri-Yang: Just tried to force it like that but no go14:34
adamk_And saying it's even 'based on bsd' is a stretch.14:35
Ari-Yangkekko, what raub said, if you're curious, do some googling14:35
kekkowhat is the top FEDORA or ubuntu?14:35
Ari-Yang@ elij I'm not sure then.... perhaps someone else in the chan can be more help than me for this problem?14:35
acerimmer!best|kekko,14:35
ubottukekko,: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.14:35
Picikekko: Again, this isn't on-topic for this support channel.14:35
Ari-Yangkekko, you'll get better answers if you google and research the questions and comparisons yourself.14:35
kekkothanks and excusemy14:36
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javierbuilderkekko, no, i have one panel usb multitouch and i want calibrate14:36
kekkook14:36
raubkekko: that can be a religious issue. Try both and see which one you like14:37
raubI myself use ubuntu and centos14:37
kekkocentos is best14:37
raubkekko: it depends on what you are trying to accomplish14:38
kekkook14:38
Ari-Yangkekko, btw there is #ubuntu-offtopic14:38
raubAri-Yang: I think some of those questions would better belong to a more global linux kinda channel14:38
kekkoìfuck14:39
kekkofuck14:39
FloodBot1kekko: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:39
kekkofuck14:39
jdoles~/.xinput.d/all_ALL contains GTK_IM_MODULE=xim, but this variable is unset in my environment. When is this file read, if ever?14:39
raubHow small can I build an ubuntu server install?14:39
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raubIs there a "really minimal install and I mean it" server install or must I do it myself?14:40
acerimmer!mini|raub,14:40
ubotturaub,: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want.  The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD14:40
MonkeyDust!requirements| raub14:40
ubotturaub: Hardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu14:40
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raubMonkeyDust and acerimmer, I did try installing in 1GB, which according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Ubuntu_Server_.28CLI.29_Installation would suffice, but ran out of space.14:43
soy_el_pulporaub: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD14:43
acerimmerraub, I've not played with it enough to provide meaningful advice.  sorry.14:43
raubacerimmer: no worries. And I do know your character ;)14:44
acerimmerraub, what a guy!14:44
soy_el_pulporaub: the key thing is the purpose of such installation, maybe ubuntu is not the right choice for you specific project14:45
duelleHi, my laptop has an ethernet and a wifi device. When I try to ping it always uses the (not connected) ethernet device to run that ping .. even when I specify the interface the ping has to go through. It always uses the not connected ethernet. ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774145/ )14:46
teamcoltraSo I kinda broke my user account somehow? I was trying to install a new graphics driver, but that went wonky, but was able to get to the driver selection by right clicking on the desktop and choosing change desktop, then going to all settings and getting to the graphics section14:46
teamcoltraHowever, now that I am back to the default driver -- Unity is still screwed up. All my windows have title bars on them but there is no unity bar or top bar thing14:47
teamcoltraWhen I log into the guest account it is working fine, so it's something to do with my user account14:47
teamcoltraI could add a new user give them admin privvys delete this one and then re-create it... but that sounds like a lot of work14:48
wheatthinteamcoltra, You could delete the hidden configs in your user home directory14:51
wheatthinwhen you relogin, they'll come back14:52
Yoshi1which distro of ubuntu should i use on a mini with 1.6 ghz cpu and 1 gig of ram?14:52
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wheatthinYoshi1, I have a 13.04 installed, and it works fine14:53
wheatthin1.8ghz cpu14:53
Yoshi1cool i was worried the mini would be under speced wheatthin14:53
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BluesKaj1g ram will work  Yoshi1 , but it's the minimum for ubuntu14:55
duelleHi, my laptop has an ethernet and a wifi device. When I try to ping it always uses the (not connected) ethernet device to run that ping .. even when I specify the interface to be used. It always uses the not connected ethernet. ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774145/ )14:59
wheatthinHmm  duelle, did you specify a specific route/gateway ?15:02
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MonkeyDustduelle  if you can ping an IP address, but not a URL, then it's a DNS issue -- try ping [ip address]15:03
wheatthinMonkeyDust, it's translating15:03
kasansweatAll ubuntu native twitter clients I use (polly, turpial, hotot) have suddenly stopped authenticating correctly -- any ideas?15:04
duellewheatthin: I didn't define a route. I only defined a gateway for the eth0 device. The wlan0 is configured via dhcp.15:04
wheatthinthat's the problem15:05
duellewheatthin: Ping doesn't use the correctly connected wlan0 card even if i enforce it with the -I parameter.15:06
wheatthinthat's because you defined the gateway to ethernet .15:06
wheatthinconnected or not, that's what you defined it to do15:06
duellewheatthin: But isn't the gateway dependent on the device? I defined the gateway for eth015:07
wheatthingateway means gateway out of the network15:07
duellewheatthin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774210/ Thats what my /etc/network/interfaces looks liek15:08
wheatthincomment out the eth0 stuff15:09
duellewheatthin: I want to set the machine to be my internet-gateway.. It should connect via wlan to the router and be kind of proxy via eth15:10
wheatthinso your gateway will be your wifi net not the ethernet15:11
wheatthinuncomment the gateway and try that15:11
duellewheatthin: ok, thx - I'll try ;)15:11
comjfCan someone help me figure out how to get shrewsoft vpn working? It appears installed, and the applications 'launch' but keeps saying ti can't connect to the key daemon15:13
accchi15:13
javierbuilderSebastianFlyte,  ping15:13
duellewheatthin: Seems to work ;) thanks a lot! So I think I misunderstood the gateway setting15:13
wheatthin:)15:13
SuperLagtoo bad kasansweat left15:13
SuperLagI was going to say, it's probably Twitter API changes15:13
sienezhi. how can I change the icon of a shortcut on my desktop on ubuntu 12.04?15:14
SuperLagTwitter doesn't care for any devs other than its own.15:14
SuperLagsienez: /usr/share/applications/<name of app>.desktop15:14
sienezSuperLag, name of app... it's a shell script15:15
sienezSuperLag, what name does it have? /bin/sh?15:15
SuperLagsienez: then I would create a .desktop file for that script, in /usr/share/applications/15:15
SuperLagsienez: what does your script do?15:16
sienezit simply calls a python file in /usr/share15:16
leehambleyhi jrib: just a short question, does upstart honor policy-rc.d, seems like not, any idea how I can prevent upstart starting jobs that are newly installed ?15:16
sienezSuperLag, it just starts a gui15:16
SuperLagsienez: I'd create a .desktop file for it. That will also put it in your Unity search, or Applications menu15:17
Yoshi1BluesKaj: well i am setting up the mini for a friend she's only gonna view youtube and listen to music on it15:17
Yoshi1maybe do emails15:17
sienezSuperLag, it looks like this: #!/bin/sh /path/to/app.py15:17
CalimeroTeknikhow do I add the key for a ppa, or disable its verification? apt-get upgrade says "6 not updated"15:17
SuperLagsienez: if your python script is set +x, then you don't need to call /bin/sh first. You can call the script directly.15:18
BluesKajYoshi1, then your friend should be fine ...hope she enjoys ubuntu :)15:18
CalimeroTeknik!pkgfile apt-add-repository15:18
jribleehambley: I think even with sysv, a service will be started.  Though I'm not sure.  What happens is that .postinst scripts call invoke-rc.d SERVICE when you install a package.  I don't know if there's some other way than, to disable the service (use manual override (search upstart cookbook) for upstart services and sysv-rc-conf if a service does not use an upstart script)15:18
Yoshi1BluesKaj: i hope so too. i'm hoping it will also cure alot of the inevitable problems she gets with windows heh. i use debian myself and used to use ubuntu15:19
CalimeroTeknikdo we have a !whatpackageisthisfilein command?15:19
leehambleycheers15:19
reisiotaxi15:19
wheatthinCalimeroTeknik, apt-get update should tell you the errors of which is erroring15:19
SuperLagsienez: like I said... create a .desktop file for it. I'd recommend creating a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ - start with an existing file, make a copy of it and rename it to correspond to your script, then edit the file to have values you want, and point to the icon file you want15:19
jribleehambley: there's some talk here that I haven't read through: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=57105415:20
ubottuDebian bug 571054 in pbuilder "Divert /sbin/initctl to fix start(8) in lucid postinsts." [Normal,Open]15:20
CalimeroTeknikit's complaining about not having the signature key15:20
sienezSuperLag, thank you, I will do this15:20
CalimeroTeknikI don't know how to give it  the key but apparently people add the repo with apt-add-repository instead15:21
sfxcchow can i install libcrypto1.0.0 on a debian whisch have only 0.9.815:21
leehambleythanks jrib15:21
wheatthinCalimeroTeknik, http://askubuntu.com/questions/131601/how-to-overcome-signature-verification-error15:21
leehambleyunfixed for 3 years jrib, shame15:22
jribleehambley: yeah, there may be more recent happenings.  Check in #upstart15:22
leehambleycheers15:22
locutusofborg1anyone has permission to stop launchpad builders?15:23
locutusofborg1https://code.launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/master-daily/+build/472193715:23
azazel91does anybody know how to install netbeans on ubuntu 12.0415:23
locutusofborg1this builder is becoming crazy, misconfigured15:24
locutusofborg1https://launchpadlibrarian.net/142661343/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-amd64.vlc_2.1.0~~git20130617%2Br2768-0~r98~raring1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz15:24
locutusofborg1hamsa15:24
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CalimeroTeknikah yup, adding the key directly is perfect, thanks wheatthin15:25
wheatthinyup np :)15:25
locutusofborg1please stop hamsa https://launchpad.net/builders/hamsa/+history15:26
ch3coohguys need help, i shifted one folder from one account to another account (it contains lots of sub folders) using cp command. when i access the folder using the other account i dont have the permission to view it so i use chmod 777 foldername, but then sub folders still have to be given permission, is there a recursive chmod?15:27
sienezSuperLag, is there any documentation for the fields in a .desktop file? Eg, i took as template the one for transmission-gtk. it says Icon=transmission. Which path are they looking for the icons?15:27
wheatthinlocutusofborg1, why would you need a ppa for vlc anyways?15:27
sp2erCan anyone point me to a guide to make my current monitor settings permanet in ubuntu 13.04? I have the settings right where I want them using the guides for Xrandr..but cant find an Xorg.conf to make them stick!15:27
locutusofborg1this is the master trunk15:27
locutusofborg1the upcoming 2.1, not the stable15:27
ch3coohnvm guys it's done :) reading the man page helps!15:27
reisiosp2er: what graphics driver are you using?15:27
AlanBellch3cooh: yes, there is, but don't 777 it, use a group15:28
sp2erivy bridge intel HD 400015:28
wheatthinlocutusofborg1, then it's not our problem :)15:28
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locutusofborg1wheatthin: a builder misconfigured it is15:28
wheatthinif it's unstable, what do you expect?15:28
locutusofborg1the problem is the BUILDER, do you understand?15:28
locutusofborg1not the code15:28
locutusofborg1https://launchpad.net/builders/hamsa/+history15:28
locutusofborg1it is eating every build15:28
wheatthinlol bye.15:29
locutusofborg1I need somebody with privileges for stopping the builder15:29
krzhi, is it safe for me to put export TERM="xterm-256color" in .bashrc?15:29
sp2erReisio: I am using just onboad Intel HD 4000 graphics15:30
reisiokrz: worst you'd have to do is undo it15:30
krzreisio: export TERM="xterm-256color" in bashrc, will have 256 color enabled in terminal by default right? even for programs like vim?15:30
reisiosp2er: http://askubuntu.com/questions/63681/how-can-i-make-xrandr-customization-permanent ?15:30
reisiokrz: either it will or it won't15:31
krzreisio: but that is intended right?15:31
reisiokrz: sounds possible15:32
krzthanks15:32
sp2erReisio: I did come across that guide...but I dont know where to locate that Xorg.conf file...it is not in the folder as suggested by that guide...nothing like that under the X 11 folder here15:32
sienezwhat's the simplest way to change the icon of a file on the desktop?15:32
reisiodepends on the file15:33
reisiosp2er: you can make the directory15:33
sienezit starts a python script15:33
reisiosienez: is it a .desktop file?15:33
sienezit's a one liner: /path/to/script.py15:33
reisiosp2er: oh, although, you should probably use xorg.conf.d15:33
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reisiosp2er: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/15:34
kepiting_!DMZ15:34
reisiosienez: so it's a plain text file?15:34
sienezreisio, yes15:34
sp2erReisio: ok I will check that guide out15:34
reisiosienez: what do you want the icon to be?15:34
SuperLagsienez: sorry, been on another window. You can point to the path where your icon graphic is.15:34
sienezthe logo of the program it launches15:34
reisiosienez: okay, you might want to replace it with a .desktop file, then15:35
sienezSuperLag, yes I did that. however the logo didnt change15:35
reisiosienez: right click, you can probably find 'create launcher' or the like15:35
reisiojust make a dummy one then edit it with a text editor, setting the icon is simple15:35
sienezreisio, nah, all i can do is create an empty text document15:35
reisiosienez: they are empty text documents15:36
reisiowell, not empty :p15:36
reisiohttp://linuxcritic.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/anatomy-of-a-desktop-file/15:36
SuperLagreisio: ohhh.... good info.15:37
SuperLagreisio: I wish I would have had that doc a LONG time ago :)15:37
reisiothere's a wizard with most DEs that you can get to from the right-click context menu, on the desktop15:37
reisiobut yeah, it's nice to know it's just a text file15:38
CalimeroTekniker, now I have no error at all, but apt-get upgrade says "6 packages not upgraded", I want them upgraded15:38
CalimeroTeknikwhat should I do?15:38
CalimeroTeknikcan I say apt-get install repository/package ?15:38
wheatthinchoose a different one15:38
SuperLagreisio: I found it it was a .desktop file, and then proceeded to edit. Never had any guide to follow.15:38
reisiowell, that's just some stupid blog post15:39
reisioit should be in a man page somewhere15:39
reisioalas I don't know which ATM15:39
azazel91anybody knows how to install netbeans since im having problems15:41
wheatthinCalimeroTeknik, try this one http://www.unixmen.com/vlc-2-0-7-has-been-released-ppa-ubuntu/15:41
reisioazazel91: what've you tried?15:41
wheatthinlatest stable15:42
azazel91you mean commands?15:42
reisioSuperLag: man desktop-file-edit15:42
CalimeroTeknikwheatthin, do you mean I must remove the ppa and re-add it with add-apt-repository?15:44
wheatthinyup15:44
CalimeroTeknikdoes that change anything?15:44
CalimeroTeknikwhat will it do that I didn't?15:44
wheatthinit will install fine.15:45
CalimeroTeknikmaybe the problem is that I added it at the bottom of sources.list15:45
wheatthinand work15:45
wheatthinand be a daily build15:45
wheatthinlol no15:45
CalimeroTeknikI'm not installing VLC15:45
sfxccis it possible to add libcrypto.so.1.0.0 to debian lenny ?????15:45
CalimeroTeknikI'm upgrading libboost to v1.4915:45
sienezumm sorry, I don't get it. here's what my files look like: paste.ubuntu.com/577432715:45
CalimeroTeknikand apt-get proudly NOT upgrades it albeit my adding the ppa15:45
SuperLagreisio: nice. I didn't know it was a standard.15:46
reisioyeah, freedesktop.org thing15:46
reisioprobably a better man page15:47
* reisio shrugs15:47
subz3r0hi15:48
subz3r0just curious. does anyone else have this problems that the root is filled up to max very fast? Problem is the uvcdynctrl-udev.log file located in /var/logs that can take Gigabytes of space?15:48
SuperLagsienez: I'm looking. Hold on just a second.15:49
subz3r0found a bug on launchpad, but no real solution. especially not why its floodin my hdd?15:49
CalimeroTeknikwheatthin, you won't tell (or don't know?) what apt-add-repository will do, aside from adding a line to /etc/apt/sources.list?15:49
wheatthinCalimeroTeknik, that's all it does is at it to the source list15:50
SuperLagsienez: the python script you're trying to run... is it in /usr/share/galicaster/galicaster-1.2.3/, and it's called run_galicaster.py ?15:50
SolarisBoysubz3r0: are you using the uvcdynctrl package for something?15:50
wheatthinCalimeroTeknik, apt-get update, updates the source15:50
sienezSuperLag, exactly15:50
wheatthinCalimeroTeknik, and apt-get upgrade upgrades15:50
utusanCalimeroTeknik: it also gets/update PGP keys15:50
CalimeroTeknikI did apt-get update;apt-get upgrade15:50
CalimeroTeknikI did that as well manually15:51
CalimeroTeknikthe key15:51
subz3r0SolarisBoy: sorry i did not mention. Its on my netbook with a build in webcam15:51
CalimeroTekniknow apt-get just says there are 6 non-upgraded packages15:51
CalimeroTeknikand I want it to upgrade them but it won't15:51
sienezbut I also have in /usr/local/bin a script to launch the same command, so just running 'galicaster' from terminal is sufficient15:51
SolarisBoysubz3r0: i dont believe that is a built in package of ubuntu's15:51
subz3r0SolarisBoy: found this bug:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libwebcam/+bug/811604. But there is not a real solution for this problem15:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 811604 in libwebcam (Ubuntu) "uvcdynctrl spams uvcdynctrl-udev.log and fills up filesystem" [Undecided,Confirmed]15:51
wheatthinCalimeroTeknik, that means they are up to their latest at THAT ppa15:51
CalimeroTeknikaren't!15:52
CalimeroTeknikI still have the ones from the main repos15:52
subz3r0SolarisBoy: there is also no reason for this bug. It must be from the ubuntu repos. I did not install anything from other sourced.15:52
SuperLagsienez: I would recommend making your icon a PNG file15:52
SolarisBoyit's possible that a package that you installed has this "bug" of over logging -15:52
SolarisBoyis what im getting at. =)15:53
SolarisBoydoesn't mean "ubuntu" will be fixing it or explaining why - my question is - are you "using" that package?15:53
subz3r0SolarisBoy: i did not install this package. 100% sure. it will be installed when ubuntu is checking for the hardware while installation15:53
SolarisBoyafaik you don't need that to run any uvc camera -15:53
sienezSuperLag, ok15:53
wheatthinCalimeroTeknik, i'm saying at that ppa maintained by someone, although it may not be the latest, is the latest at that ppa, understand?15:53
CalimeroTekniknot at all15:54
subz3r0SolarisBoy: got a hint how i can check when it was installed?15:54
CalimeroTeknikI want boost 1.49 so I added this https://launchpad.net/~mapnik/+archive/boost15:54
wheatthinCalimeroTeknik, right, and he might now have it at it's latest update from the official release15:55
CalimeroTeknikapt-get update;apt-get upgrade give no errors (I imported the key as well) but say "not upgraded"15:55
CalimeroTeknikI still have 1.4615:55
CalimeroTeknikwhich is the version in the main repo15:55
wheatthinright.. which the maintainer probably didn't have it upgraded yet15:55
CalimeroTeknikhow do I install v1.49 from this ppa?15:55
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wheatthinCalimeroTeknik, search for the right ppa15:56
SolarisBoysubz3r0: maybe with dpkg-log-summary or '/var/log/dpkg.log'15:56
CalimeroTeknikthat must be this one15:56
CalimeroTeknikanyway the version is superior to that I have15:56
wheatthinCalimeroTeknik, so you assume15:56
CalimeroTeknikit's a superior version!15:56
CalimeroTeknikapt-get is refusing to go from 1.46 to 1.4915:56
CalimeroTeknikI don't understand15:57
CalimeroTeknikI used the repo for the right version of ubuntu (precise, 12.04)15:57
CalimeroTeknikI don't even15:57
utusanCalimeroTeknik: use apt-get dist-upgrade instead15:57
subz3r0SolarisBoy: i found a dirty solution. backup the file and set debug=0. but that cant be a real solution to fix this isse. also its weird that only people with a laptop have this problem15:57
SolarisBoynot really15:58
CalimeroTeknikahhh thanks utusan !15:58
subz3r0none with a normal usb webcam on a pc at home15:58
utusanCalimeroTeknik: np15:58
SolarisBoythe job of the app is to control dynamic settings on the cam - it may be related to that package + type of camera that comes on those laptops15:59
SolarisBoyespecially if it's just a case of over logging something informational15:59
subz3r0SolarisBoy: wondering why this issue came up today. Sit in the train, listened to music and played solitaire when i wondered that my system is gettin slower and slower and after a while it complained that root has no free space15:59
SolarisBoywhat was your camera doing?15:59
subz3r0the cam? Nothing15:59
SolarisBoyhave you looked at the messages in the logs? at what they say?15:59
wheatthinmight be overgrowing debug logs16:00
SolarisBoyexactly16:00
subz3r0SolarisBoy: .log had 6,3gigs. wasnt able to open it ;) even starting gnome was not possible anymore. so i had to boot the recovery mode and delete this fine on the root console16:00
SolarisBoyhead/tail it16:00
subz3r0now the file has just 4kb16:00
SolarisBoypossibly/likely the same message repeated16:00
SolarisBoythats because you deleted it or backed it up..16:01
subz3r0wait a sec please. will pastebin the actual file16:01
SolarisBoyits not a solution really it's just preventing the inevitable16:01
ActionParsnipsubz3r0: cat /dev/null > /path/to/bigfile.log    makes them smaller :)16:01
BluesKajsubz3r0, have autoremoved and autocleaned after upgrading lately ?16:01
SolarisBoyheh16:02
ActionParsnipsubz3r0: or:  echo DIE | sudo tee /path/to/bigfile.log16:02
subz3r0just a sec ;) will post it on pastebin :)16:02
CalimeroTekniktake an extract16:03
subz3r0the buig file is gone. since i wasnt able to do anything with 0 byte space left :/16:03
subz3r0rm -rf ....16:03
CalimeroTeknikrecursive isn't necessary for one file16:03
CalimeroTeknikyou can just :>file16:03
SolarisBoywebcams are extremely noisy devices on the usb bus btw -reading your link it seems to be a problem that occurs when things naturally would get noisy "bringing up a VM guest (which may also be trying to reroute usb to ), disconnecting the webcam while it's running "16:04
BluesKajsubz3r0, autoremove and autoclean is your friend for keeping / to a minimum size16:04
subz3r0BlueEagle: mhh? have you read my postings above?16:05
subz3r0without the root console even sudo rm -rf file was not possible...16:05
SolarisBoyalso not running programs that spam your root drive16:05
SolarisBoy=)16:05
BluesKajok subz3r0 nm , but you mentioned root was getting full16:06
subzero1http://pastebin.com/b7Kz5CE716:07
subz3r0there it is16:07
subz3r0SolarisBoy: plz have a look on it16:07
MonkeyDustsubz3r0  in a terminal, paste this line             find / -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null16:07
CalimeroTeknikhow do I query for a list of installed packages?16:08
SolarisBoydpkg -l16:08
SolarisBoyCalimeroTeknik: ^16:08
CalimeroTeknikthanks16:09
subz3r0MonkeyDust: and thats for? :)16:09
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CalimeroTeknikah, I have boost 1.4616:09
CalimeroTeknikand 1.49 installed16:09
CalimeroTeknikI intended for it to be upgraded16:09
CalimeroTeknikhow can I remove all the 1.46 boost packages?16:10
subz3r0MonkeyDust: i know which files are > 1gb. The problem is something different ;)16:10
SolarisBoysubz3r0: seems like verbose logging :shrugs:: like i said thsoe are just a bunch of udev variables that are getting dynamically set on various "events" udev is calling on that tool which adjusts settings on v4l devices. I would inventory that a) my device works , if so i would b) ensure that debug setting you added actually fixed it -16:10
SolarisBoyand i wouldn't worry about it after that if so..16:10
wheatthinsubz3r0, try using logrotate if logs are getting too big16:11
subz3r0thanks for the help guys. but thats not the problem ;)16:11
SolarisBoyIF this is something that just started happening AGAIN - you may want to think that something changed with your camera16:12
subz3r0the problem is that one file "uvcdynctrl-udev.log" is getting very bug. since im not the only guy who has this problem. it must be a bug somewhere/somehow. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libwebcam/+bug/81160416:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 811604 in libwebcam (Ubuntu) "uvcdynctrl spams uvcdynctrl-udev.log and fills up filesystem" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:12
SolarisBoyloose connection on the baord - understanding that it is likely a cheap camera and likely to be broken somehow -16:12
SolarisBoysubz3r0: your not understanding -16:12
SolarisBoythats not indicative of a BUG16:12
subz3r0SolarisBoy: the cam is working properly16:12
SolarisBoyit's an occurence in a program16:12
SolarisBoysubz3r0: then disable the logging as they advised16:12
SolarisBoylike i said16:13
subz3r0SolarisBoy: I did not change anything. The problem just came up today16:13
SolarisBoythen again - check your system16:13
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subz3r0i've also windows running on the machine. also no problem with the cam or other devices16:13
SolarisBoywindows isn't using generic drivers to run your hardware16:13
subz3r0SolarisBoy: did you read the bug notice @launchpad?16:14
Guest63559ciao16:14
deletethy  i have a ald laptop theati whana instal 13.04 but i ket this error "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: pae Unable to boot – please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU" how can i install the os ?16:14
SolarisBoysubz3r0: sure did16:14
Guest63559!list16:14
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SolarisBoysubz3r0: your approacing this backwards i believe - your symptom - the large file is part of an occurence in a program that is running.16:14
SuperLagsienez: I'm sorry for the delay. I'm going back and forth between this and work. Check this out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774421/16:15
MonkeyDustdeletet  i sometimes get that error in virtualbox -- are you installing that in virtualbox?16:16
SolarisBoyi dont know what your hunting down if you have resolved your logging issue and confirmed the web cam works16:16
deletetno on a real laptop16:16
SuperLagsienez: You can add more options to that, but that's the bare minimum16:16
sienezSuperLag, Thanks I'll try!16:16
MonkeyDustdeletet  i guess your pc a 32bit and you want to install 64bit16:17
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deletetMonkeyDust ubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386  is not for 32bit poc?16:17
subz3r0SolarisBoy: checked the dpkg.log - cant find an entry for uvcdynctrl. so what would you do now?16:17
SuperLagsienez: make sure your .py script has the executable bit set... i.e. chmod +x /usr/local/share/galicaster-1.2.3/run_galicaster.py16:18
SolarisBoysubz3r0: figure out what uses it...16:18
SolarisBoysubz3r0: apparently its a dependancy of libwebcam -16:18
sienezSuperLag, sure does. The desktop link works already, it's just the eyecandy icon thing ;)16:18
subz3r0SolarisBoy: how to figure that out? :)16:19
SolarisBoyi don't have this installed on my system with attached logitech cams ::shrugs::16:19
SuperLagsienez: and if that doesn't work, let me know... I'm here to help you figure it out until it works how you like.16:19
SolarisBoysubz3r0: i ran 'apt-cache show uvcdynctrl'16:19
subz3r0SolarisBoy: it could be from Lxde desktop(since i installed it too) or from the program "motion" which i have installed to.16:19
SolarisBoyit tells you the source of the package16:19
SolarisBoysubz3r0: sounds like "motion"16:20
subz3r0there is an application for webcams within lxde desktop16:20
SolarisBoyi know..16:20
SolarisBoyand thats the underlying tool it uses most likely16:20
SolarisBoyor one16:20
SuperLagSolarisBoy: looks like you came to your senses :) You should s/SolarisBoy/UbuntuBoy though :)16:20
SolarisBoyblah16:21
SolarisBoyi could do UbuntuGuy maybe not UbuntuBoy though16:21
SolarisBoydoesn't have the same flare16:21
Jordan_Udeletet: http://askubuntu.com/questions/117744/how-can-i-install-on-a-non-pae-cpu-error-kernel-requires-features-not-present16:22
SuperLagSolarisBoy: I work in a Solaris shop, and I curse under my breath on a regular basis. If I'd have learned Solaris first, and then Linux, it wouldn't be so bad. But since I learned Linux first... going to Solaris feels like stepping back about 15 years.16:22
DeformativeIf fstab is on /etc, how do I mount /etc?16:22
subz3r0SolarisBoy: checked with apt-cache show... but nothing about motion, guvcview16:22
wheatthinlol SuperLag, I started on gentoo.. I know how you feel :)16:23
SuperLagSolarisBoy: Solaris 11 being the only exception. It feel s more modern.16:23
naithello there16:23
SolarisBoySuperLag: agreed. on that =)16:23
SuperLagSolarisBoy: which part? :)16:23
SolarisBoyfor the record i started on Linux based OS also. The Uni where forced upon me16:23
naitpls some one can tell me how copy a folder with subdirectories and files?16:24
wheatthincp -R16:24
subz3r0cp -R16:24
ActionParsnipnait: cp -r16:24
llutznait: cp -a folder/ target/16:24
ActionParsnipnait: man cp16:24
naitlol16:24
subz3r0heh16:24
naitthnx16:24
SolarisBoySuperLag: that SOL11 is pretty smooth compared to pre 9 versions. actually i'll upgrade that statement and say SOL10 FTW ;> but excuse my OTness16:24
ActionParsnipSolarisBoy: SOL10 definately ftw :)16:25
SuperLagwheatthin: Oh... I know a thing or two about Gentoo. Google "Gentoo SuperLag"16:25
Jordan_UDeformative: I've never heard of someone keeping /etc/ as a separate partition from '/', and the initramfs scripts mount the root FS from the root=UUID= argument on the linux cmdline.16:25
subz3r0is solaris such a pain in the .... ? atm im dealin with cisco... but its fun :)16:25
SuperLagSolarisBoy: ActionParsnip: no way. 10 is still a mess. :)16:25
ActionParsnipSuperLag: Im liking it personally16:25
SolarisBoysubz3r0: no relation16:25
SuperLagbut for Linux... I'm liking Ubuntu16:25
ActionParsnipSuperLag: same, and tinycore16:25
SolarisBoysubz3r0: about as much pain as you make it - if your like me  - oracle support runs when you call...16:25
Jordan_U!ot16:26
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:26
subz3r0SolarisBoy: i dont like rpm based distros16:26
SuperLagIt's not as bare-metal as Gentoo or arch... but I got to the point where tweaking every last piece takes up waaaaaay too much time16:26
DeformativeJordan_U, I am trying to do that because I have / mounted via nfs.16:26
wheatthinSuperLag, nice.. me, I was just part of the community, like I am here, but I represent :)16:26
DeformativeJordan_U, So letting each node have its own /etc would be nice16:27
servercbehi! Good morning!... Could somebody helpme? Edubuntu is restarting the thin clients very often16:27
subz3r0SolarisBoy: well... for now i will keep uvcdynctrl and see when it happens again. thank you very much for you assistance. appreciated it :)16:27
Guest63559ciaoooo a tutti16:27
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SolarisBoynp16:27
subz3r0SolarisBoy: the relation between *nix and cisco is the ioS ;)16:28
subz3r0doin atm my ccna16:28
servercbeany suggestion?16:28
servercbehi! Good morning!... Could somebody helpme? Edubuntu is restarting the thin clients very often.. any help? please16:29
ActionParsnipservercbe: test ram is a good start, also check logs16:29
servercbeThe ram is new...16:29
servercbehow do I check logs?????16:30
subz3r0servercbe: sudo nano /var/log/logname.log16:30
ActionParsnipservercbe: look in /var/log at the file, you may also find logs  on the clients themselves16:30
ActionParsnipsubz3r0: users can read most of the files in /var/log :)16:30
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subz3r0ActionParsnip: yep i know. its just a manner ;)16:31
servercbeI got an empty file16:31
naitwhen i do rm -r it's always asking me if i wanna delete the file how can i skyp that?16:32
fm__hey guys, this started recently. Every time I start up the machine I get "scandisk" and going past that, if I try to cd into some directory, I get "cannot create temp file for ..."16:32
wheatthinservercbe, /var/log is a directory16:32
loculinuxhj16:32
loculinuxhjg16:32
loculinuxfhj16:32
subz3r0servercbe: check the syslog, kernellog and maybe dmesg16:32
servercbewhat shoul I see??? sorry .. I am new16:33
subz3r0servercbe: sudo nano /var/log/syslog16:33
wheatthinsubz3r0, don't want to nano, cat will do fine16:33
jribnait: you should understand why it is doing that.  If you do and you're sure you actually want to run the command you typed, you can use -f16:34
subz3r0wheatthin: do what you want. nano is doin it fine too ;)16:34
wheatthinsubz3r0, might get locked and not allow it to update while in nano16:34
subz3r0well... 1000 ways lead to rome ... :p16:36
servercbeok.... I got alot of info that I cant understand16:36
servercbewhat shoul i look at?16:36
wheatthinservercbe, what are you looking for16:36
subz3r0wheatthin: very funny. no idea what he needs BUT .. :P16:37
subz3r0wheatthin: he got problems while bootin the machine :P16:37
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naitjrib, thnx16:37
servercbeI need to know why the thin clients are restarting by themselves?16:37
subz3r0servercbe: use a pastebin service and show us the logs16:37
wheatthindmesg for that, but it should give an error16:37
SuperLagsienez: Did that do the trick?16:38
subz3r0servercbe: use pastebin.com and show us the logs16:38
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bassshello, how can i execute a custom shell script when a USB device is plugged in ?16:39
SuperLagMan. A laptop with a lot of RAM makes all the difference when doing VM stuff.16:39
sienezSuperLag, sorry, I have not yet had the time to try it. Doing 10 things at once ;)16:39
SuperLagsienez: totally understand :)16:39
sienezSuperLag, but I saved your paste locally, so I can try later16:39
jrib!udev | basss16:39
jribbasss: search the internet for "writing udev rules"16:40
basssjrib: thanks16:40
servercbehttp://pastebin.com/7VTAHJ3E16:40
servercbeI pasted16:41
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wheatthinservercbe, you didn't catch it all16:41
servercbeops... how do I do cath all?16:41
subz3r0servercbe: thats all? should be a bit longer :>16:42
subz3r0also the other logs please. you can use gedit too. if you like a gui based notepad more16:42
wheatthinservercbe, I'd advise using pastebinit in console16:42
servercbehow?16:42
subz3r0gedit /var/log/syslog16:43
OerHeks!pastebinit16:43
ubottupastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com16:43
subz3r0or follow wheatthin guess.. pastebinit is fine :)16:43
wagnerBrasil ??16:43
subz3r0!br | wagner16:43
ubottuwagner: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.16:43
servercbehttp://pastebin.com/K776F3Ti16:44
SuperLag!udev | SuperLag16:45
SuperLagbummer16:45
ivymikehablo español16:45
Jordan_U!es | ivymike16:45
ubottuivymike: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.16:45
ivymikeje parle français16:45
ivymikeik spreek nederlands16:46
servercbeIs there any other info, do you need?16:47
BluesKajivymike, we speak english here16:47
OerHeks!nl > ivymike16:47
subz3r0!nl | ivymike16:47
ubottuivymike, please see my private message16:47
ubottuivymike: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl16:47
ivymikehow this bot knows what langage I'm speaking ?16:47
subz3r0ivymike: its a magic ;)16:47
ivymikeDoes it look into a dictionnary ?16:47
SolarisBoyservercbe: i see a lot of messages of your NICs going down/up16:47
servercbewhat it does mean SolarisBoy?16:48
SolarisBoyservercbe: also see some stuff indicates you share files over the network, i wonder if your system is panicing because of something related to your network issues. - maybe not panic'ing because i see things get HUP'd (gracefully?)16:48
fm__after a scandisk, it seems to work intermittently16:48
ivymikelet's try an exotic language16:48
fm__I need to find a permanent fix for this.16:48
ivymikeaful sqip16:48
servercbeI have been traying to share some file over the network but!  and and use a print share but unfortunatly did not work16:49
ivymikelol the bot doesn't know every language, once again the man beats the machine16:50
servercbeops... and I've been trying to use a print shared16:50
SolarisBoylooks like you've been also mounting network block devices which may be hanging and rebooting your system16:51
subz3r0servercbe: did the errors ocure before you tried to share?16:51
servercbeyes16:51
subz3r0nbd_server occurs also x times16:51
servercbeHow do I fix that???16:52
SolarisBoytechnically i see one error in your log and it's concerning the X server16:52
SolarisBoyfix what? what time did your server reboot? dmesg does not generally have spectaccular data on stuff like shudt downs -16:52
SolarisBoyas the system shut down = your best bet is looking at the data logically and trying to understand what happened around those times16:52
servercbehas about 9 days doing it.. restarting the thin clients16:53
SolarisBoyso other than that ERROR in your log - and those network flops - ::shrugs:: not sure16:53
SolarisBoyif it's restarting ALL the thin clients you should be looking at something more globally no?16:53
SolarisBoylike the network - which ironically is flipping like hot cakes in your logs16:53
subz3r0lol :D16:53
ivymikegoeiemorgen16:54
subz3r0guten morgen ivymike16:55
ivymikelol i'm trying to understand the bot16:55
SolarisBoyhmmm your thin clients run DHCP servers on them?16:55
subz3r0ivymike: if we can see that some guy/girl in here is trying to speak his or her native lang. we use the bot to point them in the right direction16:56
subz3r0!de | subz3r016:56
ubottusubz3r0, please see my private message16:56
SolarisBoyservercbe: how do your thin clients configure their network on boot? pxe/dhcp?16:56
subz3r0!de > subz3r016:56
servercbeI think Pxe/ dhco16:57
min|dvir|usMy computer works just fine, and then all of a sudden, everything hangs and I have to reboot. What do I do?16:57
servercbein fact that's what i see when they are logging in16:57
SolarisBoyservercbe: easy then..16:57
servercbeyes.16:57
SolarisBoyyou have some conflict thats causing them to boot and shut down - it may be a network conflick16:57
subz3r0min|dvir|us: check the logs in /var/logs also you may want to check your RAM and/or if the cpu temperature is "not" too high16:58
SolarisBoyso question... do you have multiple nics on your "thin clients" for whatever reason?16:58
ivymikeoh I thought the bot finds out the langage I'm speaking with an algorithme16:58
subz3r0--> /var/log16:58
min|dvir|usWhic particular log?16:58
min|dvir|us*Which16:58
subz3r0syslog16:58
subz3r0kernel16:58
subz3r0check the temperature too16:59
servercbeeach pc only has 1 ethernet16:59
min|dvir|usI already checked, and I see nothing there.16:59
subz3r0last one is the first thing that i would do under this circuumstances(summer)16:59
SolarisBoyservercbe: and if that is the log of a "thin client" you posted - i would wonder why my clients are running dhcp servers - and would question if they are successfully starting and listening for DHCP (broadcast) = then what ranges are being served and if there is a conflict16:59
SolarisBoyservercbe: ^16:59
min|dvir|usMy temps are fine.17:00
SolarisBoyanother thing you can do which should be native/ monitor the PXE boot messages at the same time monitor the TFTP/PXE service logs on the server side17:00
subz3r0SolarisBoy: isnt the behaviour a way to weird for a ip conflict? even if the ranges are leased by another client.. such a behaviur?17:00
subz3r0an...17:00
SolarisBoyno not if your pxe booting..17:00
subz3r0good to know17:00
SolarisBoyand nto if when he says he sees the pxe boot stuff on the screen when he gets there17:00
subz3r0did not read that... preparing my lunch meanwhile :>17:01
SolarisBoyit sounds like its looping - trying to boot an image and nto working - looking for DHCP and so forth - it could be other things but im saying it would have to be something in common enough to affect each thin client like he mentioned - sounds like the network17:01
subz3r0im that hungry, i could eat a whole cow :D17:01
SolarisBoyso if you have multiple dhcps on one network - i can see your pxe halting there and being confused17:01
servercbeYes. I see on the screen when is logging in with pxe, and then get an IP, then I got the username screen17:02
SolarisBoyeating the cow is fine - passing it may get a little crazy17:02
anonymoushello17:02
SolarisBoyservercbe: and then you log in and it reboots?17:02
subz3r0SolarisBoy: hrhr17:02
servercbenot at the moment. take a moment or 10 minutes17:03
servercbeand then reboot17:03
servercbeand I got an  username screen again17:03
SolarisBoyinteresting17:03
subz3r0min|dvir|us: I would check when the problems begin (time) and check the logs for that time17:03
SolarisBoyservercbe: you will need to gather more data then17:03
SolarisBoyservercbe: can you recreate the issue?17:03
servercbelike?17:03
SolarisBoyservercbe: ^^ and looking at more logs than just one from the time of boot to shutdown17:04
servercbeany in specific? any command to get that info?17:04
SolarisBoytons of them - tail/cat/grep17:04
krzeeim on an ubuntu server with no tun module, anyone know how i can install just the tun module?17:05
SolarisBoythere is always a tradeoff either you know what your looking for or have an idea17:05
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SolarisBoyin your case i would say you have an idea - i would open my search up to "sudo grep -r error /var/log" and maybe fine tuning the output17:05
definityhow can i see hwat [oprts are open17:06
servercbewow!!!!! I got a lot!!!17:06
servercbedo I need to copy all and paste it?17:07
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SolarisBoyno.. you need to look at it17:07
SolarisBoydont get all hyped - its probably mostly not relevant to you - but it's a start17:07
definityAnyone know how i can see what ports are open in Terminal?17:08
SolarisBoynetstat17:08
definitythanks17:08
wheatthinnetstat -a17:08
SolarisBoylsof  | ss17:08
wheatthin:)17:08
definitydammit, i feel stupid now, ofcourse.17:08
SolarisBoydont17:08
krzeenetstat -ln17:08
servercbe/var/log/kern.log.1:Jun 14 09:21:49 servercbe kernel: [ 8696.769637] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Unhandled error code17:09
SolarisBoy*thats not neccessarily bad*17:10
servercbe/var/log/kern.log.1:Jun 14 09:39:04 servercbe kernel: [ 9731.144603] ri-li[21486]: segfault at 8 ip 000000000040b6ad sp 00007ffff70c4fd0 error 4 in ri-li[400000+10000]17:10
SolarisBoyoh nice there you go17:10
SolarisBoyalso not neccearsily it - but its a crash of something.17:10
subz3r0netstat tulpen :>17:10
subz3r0i love it :P17:10
SolarisBoythats not today though so bleh17:10
SolarisBoyi like netstat pony =)17:10
SolarisBoyi call it pony but it's netstat -pone17:11
subz3r0yeh :P17:11
servercbe/var/log/Xorg.1.log:(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.17:11
SolarisBoyi actually see these things to co workers and it bugs then out "sure just type netstat pony."17:11
subz3r0tulpen = tulips.. thats why :)17:12
SolarisBoythen you see some guy at the console getting some error cause they really typed pony on the terminal17:12
servercbenetstat?17:12
subz3r0servercbe: nono.. that wasnt for you =)17:12
servercbeoh, ok...17:12
SolarisBoyi watched this one guy do "pseudo reboot" i lold17:12
SPV2008I'm currently running ubuntu 13.04, although i still had the issue with ubuntu 12.10. My touchpad keeps not responding to clicks, whether it is tapping the touchpad or clicking the button. If i leave it a while, it sometimes keeps responding and if i restart the computer or log out and back in, it starts responding again. Its an old laptop (about 6-7 years old), so i think its probably a driver issue. Can anyone help?17:12
subz3r0sounds like the guy whos searchin for the "any key" key :P17:13
SolarisBoysaw another guy have a hissy fit cause he couldn't fine the "pseudo" command..17:13
SolarisBoylol17:13
SPV2008I think my clicks might be getting stuck on something and then thats interfering, but...it only stops when i log out and back in.17:13
subz3r0SolarisBoy: there is a ring belling here.... maybe powertop could have something to do with my issue?17:13
servercbeOk... I have class now.. I will comeback as soon as possible... Thanks!17:14
subz3r0servercbe: ciao17:14
SolarisBoypowertop causing your issue with your webcam?17:14
subz3r0lets see what happens when i run powertop with this damn cam17:15
subz3r0im not exactly sure.17:15
subz3r0hmm17:16
subz3r0the file is gettin bigger... very slowly but ..17:17
subz3r0its almost pretty amazing all the time... when i get some erros... its something special :P17:18
subz3r0+r17:18
SolarisBoyyou would probably be better off running udevadm monitor on the webcam to see what events it's starting up thats causing the logging17:18
narcosHi. I'm making a setup.sh file, which will apt-get install packages, as well as wget and compile some. How can I tell the entire script to exit if at one point something fails?17:18
narcosDo I need to check the result code for every action?17:19
SolarisBoynarcos: exit <number> people generally make it non-zero17:19
SolarisBoynarcos: you really should @question 217:19
subz3r0will check that tomorrow or at the weekend. im pretty done for today... 9 hours with our drill instructor for the ccna is way enuff ;)17:20
narcosSolarisBoy: ok17:20
subz3r0now dinner then zZZzZ17:20
subz3r0;>17:20
SolarisBoyk17:20
* narcos finds http://www.thinkplexx.com/learn/snippet/shell/advanced/automatically-install-package-with-apt-get-install-clean-exit-if-it-fails17:20
joffrey_salut !17:21
subz3r0narcos: #bash is always a good place to idle when trying to get things done with scripts :>17:22
SPV2008anyone know anywhere i can go to try to fix my problem?17:22
SolarisBoynarcos: that should work fine. you can reuse that function after the important parts of your script17:23
narcosSolarisBoy: OK cool17:23
rhizomeSPV2008: google? if it's a driver issue then see if anybody else has a problem with the same hw you have.17:23
narcossubz3r0: k ta :)17:23
bennypr0fanehi could someone take a look at this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/305417/adobe-flash-plugin-no-full-screen  My question is actually, how can a make a command-line application autostart (or get this Flash problem actually resolved, instead of that workaround)?17:23
rhizomeSPV2008: "touchpad on old computer" isn't really very descriptive, and at any rate isn't something random people are going to go "oh hey, yeah, that's this one thing."17:24
SolarisBoynarcos: many ways for something like devilspie you may want to run it once the display manager is "started"17:24
bennypr0faneSPV2008, you gotta be inventive with the search terms17:24
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, were you talking to me there?17:25
SolarisBoynarcos: so you may want to use upstart to just spawn the command the way you need it - you can and may also be able to use rc.local to spawn the same command17:25
SPV2008I've explained my issue, what more do you need me to say?17:25
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: yes sorry.17:25
SPV2008i'll explain what you need.17:25
bennypr0fanebcs my question involves devilspie17:25
SPV2008i've also searched on google.17:25
SPV2008and no solutions at all.17:26
subz3r0SPV2008: you gave us almost zero information17:26
bennypr0faneSPV2008, which terms have you tried?17:26
ionelmchello17:26
narcosSolarisBoy: I've been learning about and using upstart this week - awesome tool17:26
SPV2008I've searched for click not working ubuntu, mouse sticking ubuntu, just various terms relating to those.17:26
subz3r0SPV2008: or did i skipped the info? Which laptop is it?17:26
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, just tell me the way you would know in most detail17:26
SPV2008I didn't say what type of computer it was, but i explained my problem in detail. Its a Lenovo 3000 N10017:26
ionelmcany idea how can i get a 3.9 kernel on precise with aufs mod without having to compile it myself ?17:26
subz3r0SPV2008: maybe it could be important to know which pc it is17:27
SPV2008I'll copy and paste my problem again if you want.17:27
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: i know each in detail each is super simple17:27
SPV2008I'm currently running ubuntu 13.04, although i still had the issue with ubuntu 12.10. My touchpad keeps not responding to clicks, whether it is tapping the touchpad or clicking the button. If i leave it a while, it sometimes keeps responding and if i restart the computer or log out and back in, it starts responding again. Its an old laptop (about 6-7 years old), so i think its probably a driver issue.17:27
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, shoot17:27
SolarisBoyif you want to just slap it in there throw it in rc.local17:27
SolarisBoyif you want to do it right do it in upstart17:27
subz3r0SPV2008: but if its a driver issue, its essential to know which hardware it is. You may want to check dmesg17:27
bennypr0fanewhatever is safer to work17:27
SolarisBoythe command i'll leave to you to put together one sec ill paste you something17:27
SPV2008kk. one moment.17:27
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774614/17:28
SPV2008Oh, hmm. it says in dmesg that its losing sync17:28
SPV2008it says it lost sync at byte 1 and byte 417:28
bennypr0faneSPV2008, you should find out what specific build your hardware is. The touchpad not working, is it?17:28
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SolarisBoythat is a simple one that starts my git daemon - you could literally replace the last 3 lines with one line .17:28
SPV2008its partially working17:28
SPV2008it seems like it occasionally sticks, or the mouse skips around the screen a bit erratically.17:29
SPV2008and when it does, i have to relog to get it working again17:29
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: that line would be - exec su - <user> -c "devilspie"17:29
subz3r0SPV2008: did you check to turn off the powersavemode? a friend of mine got an issue like that ages ago17:29
SolarisBoyfill in user with who you want to run devilspie as17:29
SPV2008Where do i do that?17:29
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, no need for "script" and end script"?17:30
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: nope17:30
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SolarisBoyin your case i don't see why atleast17:30
SolarisBoyin fact i dont need it either =)17:30
jakey1I am getting an error that says Error splicing file: File too large?17:31
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, so I insert this in upstart?17:31
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: now once you have that filled in - you may want to look at man-upstart-events - and get your "start on" line to start on the event emitted when your display manager has succesfully started - this way you get 'display startup invokes->devils pie run'17:32
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: you make that a file somewhere under /etc/init/ with the suffix .conf17:32
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subz3r0SPV2008: i have a no english version running here... should be something like Power Settings17:32
fm__ok this is happening while the machine started and was running fine. Basically the problem when I try to cd, it says "cannot create temp file for here ..."17:32
spaghettolist17:32
jakey1anyone?17:32
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, so new file, not existing one?17:32
fm__ok this is happening while the machine started and was running fine. Basically the problem when I try to cd, it says "cannot create temp file for here ..."17:32
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: for instance /etc/init/test.conf would make a service you can now manage like "start test;status test;restart test;stop test"17:33
minidinoIf I were to compile something via make on a computer running ubuntu, would it theoretically run on another computer running ubuntu?17:33
fm__sorry - reposted17:33
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: new file17:33
bennypr0fanejakey1 where exactly are you getting that error, what are you trying to do in which program in which OS etc.etc..... blah17:33
SPV2008I've looked at the power settings and it just has lid closing and stuff in it17:34
jakey1ubuntu 12.04 copying files to a usb17:34
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, I need to make that executable after, yes?17:34
subz3r0SPV2008: check your acpi settings. maybe turn it completely off and check again17:34
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: no17:34
subz3r0SPV2008: its just a guess17:34
SPV2008apparently...acpi isn't installed.17:34
SPV2008hmm17:34
SPV2008should i install it?17:34
bennypr0fanelike sudo mkfile /etc/init/devilspie.conf?17:35
subz3r0its not? hmm17:35
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: sudo vim /etc/init/devilspie.conf17:35
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SolarisBoybennypr0fane: then start by copy/paste the contents of that post - next edit to be correct17:35
subz3r0SPV2008: did you check which touchpad it is(dmesg) and searched for errors of it?17:35
bennypr0fanewhat's vim?17:36
subz3r0vim is an editor17:36
subz3r0text editor17:36
SPV2008yeah, it says it was out of sync at byte 1 and17:36
SPV2008417:36
subz3r0SPV2008: no, check what vendor it is and search for issues17:36
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bennypr0fanesubz3r0, maybe lshw to take a closer look a that touchpad?17:36
rhizomeSPV2008: this is going back a bit, but if your touchpad isn't working, why do you search for "mouse sticking?"17:37
subz3r0rhizome: good point =)17:37
SPV2008it is partially working.17:37
SPV2008what happens is, sometimes i'm in an app and then the click ends up not working17:37
subz3r0im switchin to the kitchen all the time while preparing lunch... so did not read everything ;)17:37
SPV2008the click seems to sometimes get stuck, i.e. on toggles and stuff.17:37
SPV2008or drop down boxes17:37
SPV2008from what i see anyway.17:37
S23PEI cannot make my resolution to stick in Ubuntu with internal intel graphics can anyone help?17:37
SPV2008yet there's nothing wrong with the actual touchpad.17:37
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, turns out I don't have vim, some other editor? I'm Lubuntu 13.0417:38
SolarisBoyvi17:38
SolarisBoyremove the m17:38
SolarisBoyor nano or gedit - whatever works for you17:38
subz3r0SPV2008: check which manufacturer it is and search for issues with this product...17:38
bennypr0faneah nano that's what I couldn't remember17:39
SolarisBoyif you use anything graphical use gksudo17:39
SolarisBoyi always forget nano17:39
SolarisBoyon purpose..17:39
SPV2008where would i look to find the manufacturer of the touchpad?17:39
SPV2008i THINK its synaptics, but not entirely sure.17:39
fm__hey, anyone have ideas with my system drive becoming "read-only".17:39
fm__?17:39
bennypr0faneI didn't know you could just create a file just by adding the path to the command17:40
OerHeksSPV2008, try lshw in terminal17:40
S23PEI am able to change resolution for my monitor but I cant make it stick.....I have tried reading about Xorg but I can't make heads or tails of it..new to Linux17:40
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: most of the cli text editors allow you to do this17:40
bennypr0fanefm__ yeah, that must be bcs you can't write :-D17:40
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SolarisBoySPV2008: you can also try to walk the udev attributes if it's not in lshw/lspci outputs17:40
bennypr0faneOerHeks, maybe lshw with an option that's reduce the output for an easier search?17:41
subz3r0SPV2008: synaptic is a package manger. with this one you can install/uninstall software... like apt-get...17:41
rhizomehe's talking about synaptics with an 's', who is/was a touchpad manu17:41
SolarisBoyfm__: this is on your root disk? have you tried to check the file system consistency with fsck?17:41
SPV2008touchpad isn't listed.17:41
SPV2008No, synaptics touchpad. Not the package manager.17:41
SPV2008synaptics is a touchpad manufacturer.17:42
fm__SolarisBoy: yeah root disk17:42
subz3r0SPV2008: good to know. i know only "synaptic" :>17:42
SolarisBoyfm__: have you run fsck against the disk?17:42
fm__I thought it was a bad idea to run fsck on mounted disk -17:42
SolarisBoySPV2008: you mean literally the touch pad on your laptop and not a connected device?17:42
fm__SolarisBoy: should I run fsck on mounted disk17:42
fm__?17:42
SPV2008Yeah.17:42
SolarisBoylike the way IBM's use synaptic touch pads?17:42
SolarisBoyfm__: no you should boot into recovery mode and do it17:43
SPV2008its not connected. its built into it.17:43
SolarisBoyfm__: in fact you cant run fsck on a mounted disk17:43
SolarisBoySPV2008: and it's not working?17:43
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, vi looks funny there's just a lot of ~~~17:43
fm__<SolarisBoy>: that is what I thought17:43
SolarisBoyindicative of an empty file17:44
SPV2008Well, after a while the click stops working (both tapping it and the button), but it seems like it sticks in a certain part because sometimes if i move the mouse over the toggle when the click isn't working, it flips the toggle17:44
SPV2008i have to relog to fix it17:44
SPV2008then it happens again after a while.17:44
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: vi has a set of commands that govern it - you may wnt to try nano if your not familiar = if you want to take a dive17:44
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: type "i" to actually insert text17:44
bennypr0fanenaaah, this is nonsense. It makes As and Bs when I press cursor keys no thanks17:44
subz3r0SPV2008: "dmesg | grep pad" found my Elantech Tpichpad ETPS/217:44
subz3r0Touch...17:45
SPV2008yeah, its a synaptics touchpad.17:45
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: :set nocompatible most likely will fix that17:45
bennypr0faneusing nano17:45
fm__<SolarisBoy> - so when I restart - how do I get into recovery mode /17:45
SolarisBoysure17:45
SolarisBoythe dry hump of text editors.17:45
whoeverhi all i am try to start vmware worakstation, and i got a propt asking for the generic header location, witch i supplied. but now it is looking for c header files, where would i find those17:45
SolarisBoyfm__: it should be a boot option17:45
SPV2008model 1. daammnn, thats old. lol.17:45
fm__thanks =17:45
fm__trying to figure it out17:46
whoeverbecause wouldn't they had already been installed with build-essentials17:46
SolarisBoyfm__: you may also be able to append "single" to your grub.cfg line run update-grub and that should boot you into single user mode17:46
rohanb_I messed up my wifi router and can't get it back :-(. I am not sue what I did. I can see the network, it tries to connect but after initilaizing the interface it disconnects, help please17:48
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, it now looks like this: start on startup (new line) stop on runlevel [016] (new line) respawn (new line) exec su - <ben> -c "devilspie"17:49
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rohanb_any suggestions for what channel may be able to help?17:50
bennypr0faneshould work, right?17:50
SolarisBoydont see why not - you should test it before you finalize it though17:50
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bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, what's a "dryhump" (dosn't seem to make sense for a computer program, haha)?  how can I test it beforehand?17:51
spaghettocome chiedere la lista17:51
SolarisBoyits nano17:52
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: sudo start devilspie (or whatever you named that file - the .conf part)17:52
bennypr0fanerohanb_ sounds like you need to get access to the router's configuration panel17:52
SolarisBoyafter that monitor your desktop to see if the devilspie rules are active - or just run ps auxwww and check if it is running in the background - then stop it and confirm the process is gone - test complete17:52
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, system monitor should list the process after I started it, right?17:53
DJonesspaghetto: A list of what? You can download Ubuntu from  www.ubuntu.com, if you're looking for a list of channels on the freenode network, please use !alis as a command17:53
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: ps auxwww|grep devilspie17:53
SolarisBoythats probably much quicker especially right after you started it in the same terminal17:54
bennypr0faneoh my, I'm in a command-line-only thread again...17:54
SolarisBoypgrep devilspie even (i hate seeing the grep of grep)17:54
bennypr0faneHAHAHA17:54
CanWaspCan anyone guide me with some help to make a Xorg.conf file so I can make my monitor resolution stick...I've been stumped for 2 days now17:55
rohanb_bennypr0fane: I did, everything seems setup fine, Broadcasting the SSID, radio is on, wpa-wpa2 personal is set, password is correct17:55
fabio!list17:55
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adamk_CanWasp: What resolution do you want?17:55
spaghettosono nuovo come mi muovo17:55
_userrhow to find string in all files in my folder with recursive using bash?,17:55
SolarisBoygrep -r user82_ ^^17:56
DJones!it | spaghetto17:56
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SolarisBoygrep -r "string" . (search current directory recursively)17:56
CanWaspadamk: I have been able to set it to 1440x900_60.00 but can't make it stick after reboots17:56
spaghettograzie17:56
_userrsolarisboy thank you,.17:56
adamk_CanWasp: Does 1440x900 show up as an available resolution, by default, when running 'xrandr' in a terminal window?17:56
SolarisBoyyw17:56
CanWaspadamk_: No..currently unknown monitor default is 1024x768...1440x900 only shows up after I the newmode command17:58
adamk_Gotcha...  So at least you know the modeline you have to use...  Give me a second.17:58
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774714/17:58
adamk_CanWasp: What is the output name for that monitor?17:58
CanWaspadamk_: I dont understand your question17:59
wheatthinCanWasp, you can find out by issueing   xrandr   in console17:59
adamk_CanWasp: Your monitor has name... DVI-0, HDMI-0, VGA-0, DFP1, etc...  xrandr will tell you.17:59
CanWaspadamk_ : Ah yes sorry, it is VGA117:59
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: remove the diamonds from your user name18:00
adamk_CanWasp: And what's the modeline you create?18:00
SolarisBoyexec su - ben -c "devilspie" (that was part of the information to remove , sorry)18:00
bennypr0fanerohanb_, I searched freenode for "networking", there is a channel by that name ##networking that could be useful .lots of people there18:01
CanWaspadamk_: Modeline "1440x900_60.00"  106.50  1440 1528 1672 1904  900 903 909 934 -hsync +vsync18:01
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, I'm ashamed18:01
z_-had a question regarding Ubuntu 10.3. I have a Vizio Laptop ultrabook (i don't think the laptop has anything special in terms of components) and i was looking to put linux on it instead of win8 (for smoother experience and also because win8 was corrupt on arrival of the laptop). Do I have to do any special procedure to make sure everything works? Sound, wifi, etc ?18:01
adamk_CanWasp: Then this should be the Monitor section of your xorg.conf file...  It's likely the only section you need: http://pastebin.com/ZwB78MPt18:01
Fonsie1990so i put ubuntu 12.04 on a bootable usb drive and when i try to boot from it i get the ubuntu boot/install menu but no matter what option select it reboots and wants to boot from the usb drive and keeps bringing up the menu18:02
adamk_CanWasp: You can probably just take that and create /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/monitor.conf18:02
CanWaspadamk_: Yes I'm that should be the only config I need...but I can't find..nor seem to be able to create an xorg.conf file18:02
_userrsolarisboy and how to spesific just for *.txt file ?18:03
Fonsie1990also, my computer does not have any OS on it right now18:03
adamk_CanWasp: Just do what I said...  Take those lines and create /usr/share/X1/xorg.conf.d/monitor.conf18:04
SolarisBoywith grep recursively you can't really you can use find though18:04
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, why does it say "unknown job"? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774727/18:05
SolarisBoythats not how to start it18:05
SolarisBoyjust sudo start devilspie18:05
bennypr0faneoh18:05
Znoosey!list18:05
ubottuZnoosey: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».18:05
CanWaspadamk_: I am new to linux...how do I create files?  I dont know what to do with that? Copy and paste it into Libre Office and save from there?18:05
SolarisBoyuser82_: find . -name \*txt -exec grep "pattern" '{}' \;18:05
Fonsie1990so i put ubuntu 12.04 on a bootable usb drive and when i try to boot from it i get the ubuntu boot/install menu but no matter what option select it reboots and wants to boot from the usb drive and keeps bringing up the menu18:06
SolarisBoy^^ find files suffixed with txt recursively and grep within them for pattern18:06
SolarisBoy_userr: find . -name \*txt -exec grep "pattern" '{}' \;18:06
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, but won't that just start devil's pie in a regular way? and not the script I made?18:06
* SolarisBoy has no clue what you mean18:07
adamk_CanWasp: Run 'gksu gedit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/monitor.conf'.  Then copy and paste those lines into that file and save it.18:07
SolarisBoystart devilspie will start whats defined in /etc/init/devilspie.conf18:07
_userrsolarisboy thx,. i will try it,18:07
bennypr0fanehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5774740/18:07
roastedhello!18:07
SolarisBoywhats the name of your file within /etc/init/ ?18:08
CanWaspadamk_: from the command line it says gsku is not installed18:08
roastedI just installed 12.04 onto a Lenovo laptop. I also installed from the repos linux-image-generic-lts-raring. This brought my kernel to 3.8.0-25, which I wanted, however I lost my wireless. I went into additional drivers and tried to (over hardwire) install Broadcom STA. It keeps failing to install. How can I get this rolling?18:08
SolarisBoyCanWasp: gksu18:08
adamk_CanWasp: It's gksu, not gsku.18:08
Fonsie1990so i put ubuntu 12.04 on a bootable usb drive and when i try to boot from it i get the ubuntu boot/install menu but no matter what option select it reboots and wants to boot from the usb drive and keeps bringing up the same menu18:09
CanWaspadamk_:  gksu gedit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/monitor.conf The program 'gksu' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install gksu shaun@shaun-To-be-filled-by-O-E-M:~$ apt-get install gksu E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?18:09
rosco_yI'm using 13.04 with an NVIDIA card, and my screen geometry needs a little tweaking--should Install native NVIDIA drivers?18:09
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: can you post the contents of the init file you created and ping the name of it in here?18:10
adamk_CanWasp: Odd, I thought it was installed by default.  Using Unity? In either case, you can install it.18:10
CanWaspadamk_: I have no idea...2 days with Linux....downloaded Ubuntu 13.04...just trying to get proper resolution to stick so I can actually read things on my screen and learn about Ubuntu18:11
adamk_CanWasp: Oh, I see, you tried and got permission denied.18:11
Fonsie1990can anybody help me with ubuntu installation?18:11
adamk_CanWasp: Run 'sudo apt-get install gksu'18:11
adamk_CanWasp: It will then ask you for your password.  After installing gksu, run 'gksu gedit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/monitor.conf'18:12
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bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, by "ping the name of it", you mean paste a link? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774750/18:13
SlartFonsie1990: what seems to be the problem?18:13
bennypr0faneits name is etc/init/devilspie.conf18:14
bennypr0faneSlart he described his problem a bit above18:14
houkouonchi-homeAnyone know how to remove a package via aptitude and have it *not* run the post-remove scripts?18:15
CanWaspadamk_: Ok that is all done..and in the usr/share/x11/ xorg.conf.d/monitor.conf file with that info pasted...do I just reboot?18:15
bennypr0fane...but it seems Fonsie1990 is gone now18:15
fm__<SolarisBoy>: I did run recovery mode fsck18:15
fm__now the graphics is messed up18:15
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: remove that colon from 'description: run devil's pie on startup'18:16
SolarisBoyand try again18:16
fm__but more importantly still getting "cannot create temp file here-document: Read-only file system"18:16
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, or just remove the descrition entirely?18:16
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: no.. just dont use things that break whats expected18:17
SolarisBoylike colons where the delimeter is space18:17
SolarisBoyfm__: was the fsck successful? what arguments did you use? output of df -ah ? any errors in logs?18:17
SolarisBoyfm__: are you installing ruby using rvm?18:18
fm__<SolarisBoy>: I run it in the recovery mode on boot up, so no argument passed, but said it was successful18:18
fm__yes - I am using ruby rvm18:18
fm__<SolarisBoy>: please note, it is 13.0418:19
SolarisBoyfm__: make sure your /tmp directory is (on the same mount as /, not a tmpfs or some other type of ramfs) and ensure it has permissions...18:19
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, what's a delimeter?18:20
fm__<SolarisBoy>: I believe that is the problem, as one of the previous messages said, cannot load /tmp or something like that18:20
fm__<SolarisBoy>: can you tell me how to make sure ?18:20
SolarisBoyfm__: fix/check permissions18:20
SolarisBoyfm__: ls to check  chmod if needed to fix18:20
rosco_ybennypr0fane: I usually think of delimiters as characters that define the beginning and ending of fields.18:21
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: some other type of ramfs) and ensure it has permissions... ( 14:20  bennypr0f )18:21
SolarisBoygrr18:21
fm__<SolarisBoy>: i am in temp, shows it is owned by root , permissions are 77718:21
fm__and shows t at the end...18:21
rosco_yFor example, spreadsheets usually can export to comma-delimitted fields, and the column fields are separated by commas ','.18:21
bennypr0faneumm, what?18:22
SolarisBoydont confuse your self18:22
SolarisBoyremove the colon18:22
GeorgeTorwellDoes anyone here use full disk encryption?18:22
rosco_ynot me....18:22
GeorgeTorwellCan you install /grub on an /dev/sda if the whole disk has been used for full disk encryption during setup?18:22
Pici!who18:22
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)18:22
jribhoukouonchi-home: why do you want to do this?18:23
bennypr0fanehere we go again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774776/ btw I can't tell from the output of that ps whether devil's pie is running or not, it's all greek to me18:23
houkouonchi-homejrib: because i need to free disk space (100-200GB) by uninstalling 80+ kernels that are installed and I don't want it to take hours while it re-does the grub updates for each one18:23
houkouonchi-homejrib: I want it to just remove them and i will manually do an update-grub after18:24
ipfaffyGeorgeTorwell: I wouold say probably not, but that is only a gut feeling, not an experience thing18:24
fm__<SolarisBoy>: any ideas ? /tmp shows owned by root and permissions are set to 777+t18:24
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: do this please ls -ltrh /etc/init/devilspie.conf and let me know if you get any error18:24
GeorgeTorwellthats what I think too but I tried it for server edition, it refused to install grub but im wondering if thats because sda was not marked bootable18:24
GeorgeTorwellI thought the entire point of FDE is that the kernel and /boot are also encrypted, except for a small unencrypted bootloader used to decrypt everything else18:24
SolarisBoythat file should work if it's there otherwise - i hope you removed the colon - because thats breaking it if not18:24
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bennypr0faneGeorgeTorwell, my gut feeling is probably yes, bcs I wouldn't expect the master boot record to be encrypted as well. again, not from experience - just a guess18:25
houkouonchi-homejrib what I can do now is rename the grub-mkconfig temporarily and stuff and make it run but I would really rather not do that.18:25
GeorgeTorwellof course the mbr can't be encrypted18:25
jribhoukouonchi-home: involving the kernel, I believe there are "special" hooks.  Let me search; one second18:25
Fonsie1990so i put ubuntu 12.04 on a bootable usb drive and when i try to boot from it i get the ubuntu boot/install menu but no matter what option select it reboots and wants to boot from the usb drive and keeps bringing up the same menu18:25
GeorgeTorwellbut /boot should be right? otherwise an attacker can just replace your /boot with whatever he wants18:26
houkouonchi-homejrib: thanks18:26
ipfaffybennypr0fane: that ps is only showing the grep process as running, not showing anything else called devilspie running, btw18:26
Somethingniceron a scale from papercut to hindenburg, how dangerous is it to shrink a windows partition that's half empty via gparted??18:26
jribhoukouonchi-home: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-update-hooks.html that probably tells you want you need18:26
icerootSomethingnicer: just make a backup first18:26
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, ~$  ls -ltrh /etc/init/devilspie.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 119 Jun 17 20:20 /etc/init/devilspie.conf again no idea what this is upposed to tell me18:26
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icerootSomethingnicer: normally it should be fine without issues, did that already multiple times18:27
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: repost the contents of the file so i can verify your edit18:27
Fonsie1990is anybody able to help me with ubuntu install?18:27
iceroot!ask | Fonsie199018:27
ubottuFonsie1990: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience18:27
Fonsie1990so i put ubuntu 12.04 on a bootable usb drive and when i try to boot from it i get the ubuntu boot/install menu but no matter what option select it reboots and wants to boot from the usb drive and keeps bringing up the menu18:28
Somethingnicericeroot; did you have to do anything in particular to the windows partition prior to the shrink? I've cleaned it, defragged and disabled page file already18:28
icerootSomethingnicer: no i was just resizing it18:28
Somethingnicerfair enough18:28
bennypr0fanehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5774800/18:28
icerootSomethingnicer: but i made a backup first18:28
Somethingniceryeah that's always a good idea18:29
icerootSomethingnicer: not only when resizing :)18:29
Somethingnicerdon't have any backup with me at the moment though, so this 22GB partition is going to suffice for now..18:29
MOUDHey all18:34
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Fonsie1990so i put ubuntu 12.04 on a bootable usb drive and when i try to boot from it i get the ubuntu boot/install menu but no matter what option select it reboots and wants to boot from the usb drive and keeps bringing up the menu18:35
bennypr0faneFonsie1990, could you describe that more precisely? what do you mean by "it want to boot from usb"? That's what you want it to do., right?18:36
bennypr0faneI mean if it keeps rebooting instead of executing the option you chose from the menu, that probably means the boot medium is corrupted18:36
stelthpantherFonsie1990: how did you image the flash drive?18:37
Fonsie1990it boots into "Installer boot menu" and when i select " Install Ubuntu on a hard disk" it reboots the computer and goes back into the boot menu once again18:37
stelthpantherok18:37
MOUDI just installed ubuntu on my flash drive and when loading it says that it cannot identify my graphics card. I have have 4 options to chose but I cant chose any (only the default one). How can I fit it?18:37
Fonsie1990ive tried using both unetbootin and universal usb installer18:37
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DGodNTDid you guys see this, pretty cool project, works on the ubuntu phone too http://kck.st/14HSLys18:38
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stelthpantherFonsie1990: did you check the boot medium at the boot screen.18:38
bennypr0faneFonsie1990, did you check the download with a checksum?18:38
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Fonsie1990stelthpanther: what do you mean18:39
Fonsie1990bennypr0fane: no18:39
stelthpantherat the usb boot menu there should be a check disk option18:39
bennypr0fanestelthpanther, it seems to me like if all the boot options fail like Fonsie1990 said, the check boot menu option fails as well18:39
stelthpantherit will test to see if what you downloaded is corrupted.18:39
Fonsie1990the one that goes into memtest86+?18:39
bennypr0faneFonsie1990, no18:40
stelthpantherFonsie1990: the check disk option18:40
bennypr0fanememtest sounds like the actual grub boot menu18:40
Fonsie1990i dont see it, i am currently trying the universal usb installer which has a different boot menu18:40
bennypr0faneor can you run memtest also from a installer medium?18:41
bennypr0faneFonsie1990, check the downloaded image first18:41
bennypr0fanethen mount it to the flash drive18:41
bennypr0fanethen check that18:41
stelthpantherDid you use the checksum to check what you downloaded?18:41
bennypr0faneFonsie1990, do you now where to find the hashes?18:42
Fonsie1990my options are as follows "Run Ubuntu from this USB" "install ubuntu on a hard disk" "test memory" "boot from first hard disk"18:42
Fonsie1990no18:42
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, did you see my post?18:42
six_stormhello everyone.  can anyone help me with some BIND9 setup?18:42
Fonsie1990i am very new to linux, ive always been a windows person but for some reason windows isnt wanting to work so figured id try linux18:42
bennypr0faneFonsie1990, give me the link of the page where you downloaded ubuntu from18:43
stelthpantherFonsie1990: you have a different usb install. I would use the checksum to double check what you downloaded18:43
Fonsie1990http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop18:44
Fonsie1990what is checksum and how do i do it?18:44
bennypr0fane32b it or 64 bit?18:44
Fonsie19903218:45
DJones!md5sum | Fonsie199018:45
ubottuFonsie1990: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows18:45
bennypr0fanethank you DJones18:46
bennypr0faneI actually forgot he's probably working from windows18:47
nadohi18:47
bennypr0faneFonsie1990, you need to find a program that can make an md5sum or sha1 or sha25618:48
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nadowhats the package which can provide local service to launche /etc/local.d/*.start at the bootup ?18:48
StaticLNXis there a cli tool to setup networking?18:49
nadoifconfig18:49
nadonmcli18:49
nadowicd-cli18:49
nadowicd-curse18:49
nadonetcfg18:50
nadoi could name very much :)18:50
nadowhat do you need when setup network ?18:50
StaticLNXthey will save settings? dns/mac/ip/etc18:51
nadoStaticLNX: is that for only one profile ?18:51
nadoor more like a laptop ?18:51
StaticLNX418:51
MOUDWhen trying to use my usb it says that i dont have the permission necessary to access it (i just installed ubuntu in it but i'm running a bootable ubuntu CD)18:52
nadoStaticLNX: 4 profiles ? Then you might create rules in /etc/network or something like that18:52
nadoor use networkmanager in cli (nmcli) which can store profiles, wicd (same), netcfg18:53
nadoMOUD: are you in group usb ?18:53
StaticLNXok18:53
nadoif a group like that exists18:53
MOUDnado: i have no idea18:54
StaticLNXany curses frontends to any?18:55
iceroot13.04 is already a 9 month-support version? or still 18 month?18:55
DJonesiceroot: 9 mth18:55
icerootDJones: thx18:56
bennypr0fanehello SolarisBoy you still there?18:57
nadowhats the package which can provide local service to launche /etc/local.d/*.start at the bootup ?18:57
nadoMOUD: type groups in a term18:57
jimmy51_i'm trying to run mkfs.ntfs.  when i do, i get the message "the program 'mkfs.ntfs' is currently not installed.  you can install it by typing sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g.  However, when i apt-get install ntfs-3g I'm told ntfs-3g is already the newest version.  What's up with that?18:57
jribnado: what do you want to accomplish exactly?18:58
nadojimmy51_: lsmod|grep ntfs18:58
jribjimmy51_: try "hash -r"18:58
bennypr0faneanyone care to take a look at this and tell me if it's sane? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774800/18:58
nadojrib: launch softs like znc by butting small script in /etc/local.d/18:58
nadoactually like i do under my gentoo18:58
jribnado: that's probably something gentoo-specific18:58
bennypr0faneI want to make a program named devil's pie autostart, so I created a file with these contents /etc/init/devilspie.conf18:59
jrib!boot | nado18:59
ubottunado: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto18:59
nadoow, /etc/rc.local18:59
jribnado: I would suggest either writing an upstart script (see "upstart cookbook") or just use @reboot in your crontab18:59
MOUDnado: ubuntu adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare18:59
jimmy51_nado: didn't return anything18:59
jimmy51_jrib: didn't return anything18:59
bennypr0fane ~$  ls -ltrh /etc/init/devilspie.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 119 Jun 17 20:20 /etc/init/devilspie.conf18:59
nadojrib: upstart is a bit heavy for small script like znc or iptables19:00
jribjimmy51_: it shouldn't19:00
jimmy51_(should have specified... running 13.04)19:00
jribnado: not sure what you mean.  Upstart is how you manage services in ubuntu.  If you don't want to write a proper script, then just use @reboot in crontab (znc docs advise this anyway)19:00
bennypr0faneI'm trying to solve this problem with devil's pie: http://askubuntu.com/questions/305417/adobe-flash-plugin-no-full-screen19:00
nadook, @reboot then19:01
jribjimmy51_: hash -r  just refreshes your shell's knowledge about commands19:01
jribjimmy51_: do you actually have "/sbin/mkfs.ntfs"?19:01
jimmy51_ah... ok hang on19:03
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jimmy51_jrib:  i do have a file there... looks like a link to /usr/bsin/mkntfs19:04
jimmy51_jrib: it's read when I ls -lh though.  not sure what that means19:04
jribjimmy51_: well is /sbin in your PATH?19:04
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jimmy51_jrib: according to echo $PATH$, it is19:05
jribjimmy51_: and mkfs.ntfs still is not found after you did "hash -r"?19:05
jimmy51_jrib: correct.19:06
jribjimmy51_: can you pastebin your terminal input and output?19:06
nadojrib: i prefer rc.local rather than crontab19:07
jribnado: ok19:07
jimmy51_jrib: sure.  i'll throw some up in a sec19:07
nadoat least i can centralize everything i need to be done à the startup19:07
nadothank you for the tip19:07
jimmy51_jrib: http://pastebin.com/KVc1EeuD19:11
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jribjimmy51_: with hash -r19:11
jimmy51_jrib: ah... looks like /usr/sbin/mkntfs isn't there!19:12
jribjimmy51_: ok19:12
jimmy51_jrib: hmm... why wouldn't it get installed even after ntfs-3g is installed?19:14
jribjimmy51_: on 12.10 /sbin/mkfs.ntfs is a link to /sbin/mkntfs, not to what you have19:14
jrib!find mkntfs19:14
ubottuFile mkntfs found in ntfs-3g19:14
jrib!find /sbin/mkntfs19:14
ubottuFile /sbin/mkntfs found in ntfs-3g19:14
jrib!find /usr/sbin/mkntfs19:15
ubottuPackage/file /usr/sbin/mkntfs does not exist in raring19:15
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jribjimmy51_: did you modify the link?19:15
jimmy51_jrib: i did not.19:15
jribjimmy51_: you can purge the package and reinstall it to see if the issue repeats itself19:16
jribjimmy51_: what ubuntu version?19:16
jimmy51_jrib: 13.04.  looks like it's /usr/mkntfs19:16
jimmy51_jrib: i guess i can just change my script to call that... or make a symlink to match where it really is.19:17
jimmy51_seems like the default package lays down a bad symlink19:17
ForSparePartsI'm on 11.10 (running in a VM under OSX) and I'm trying to set up Aero Snap-like bindings in Compiz Config -- for some reason <Super>-Left/Right aren't triggered when I press the key combination. Anyone know why?19:17
ForSpareParts<Super> works in other contexts, but not this one.19:18
jribjimmy51_: you should purge to reinstall to verify this is an issue with the package; also check bugs.ubuntu.com19:18
jrib!11.10 | ForSpareParts19:18
ubottuForSpareParts: Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) was the fifteenth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/111019:18
ForSparePartsjrib, ?19:18
jribForSpareParts: 11.10 is no longer supported19:19
jrib!eol | ForSpareParts19:19
ubottuForSpareParts: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades19:19
jimmy51_jrib: i did a apt-get remove.  is there more to it than that to purge?19:19
mantovan1l a metodologia que vc cria um erro certo19:19
mantovan1ops19:20
mantovan1um teste que passa19:20
mantovan1outro que nao passa?19:20
ForSparePartsjrib, Ah. Well, I'd love to upgrade, but I've been asked to remain on 11.10 by my employer. I know it's not technically supported, but if anyone here has any ideas, I'd really appreciate the help...19:20
FloodBot1mantovan1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.19:20
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jribForSpareParts: I'd urge you to explain to your employer that 11.10 no longer gets security updates, it's not a good idea to stay on it19:20
SolarisBoygood luck with that approach19:21
sasukeHi guys,19:21
ForSparePartsjrib, I'll point that out. Unfortunately, it's not up to me in the end -- my own machines were on 13.04 months ago.19:22
SolarisBoywhen they support is that official ubuntu support (like with engineers from canonical or some third party that specializes in ubuntu) , is that for people who purchased some sort of support contract, or is that just in general dont ask anyone "not even people in irc channels" about EOL releases?19:22
ForSparePartsDo you think that this keybinding problem has anything to do with my being on 11.10?19:22
jribSolarisBoy: the most important aspect is that security updates are no longer provided.  Personally, I don't care if someone else wants to help someone with an eol release here as long as they explain it's eol and what that means19:23
jribForSpareParts: you might try19:23
jribForSpareParts: you might try to replicate it on 12.04 or 13.04 just to troubleshoot19:24
sasukei have a file.txt which will generate in multiple servers. I need to save all the  outputs in my local machine as a .csv file. Can anyone please help me on this19:24
SolarisBoyForSpareParts: is your VM in 2d mode?19:24
ForSparePartsSolarisBoy, You know, I'm actually not sure. How would I check?19:25
SolarisBoyif so i think that the aero-snap thing is enabled when you go into the 3d mode atleast i believe that was my case19:25
SolarisBoyForSpareParts: that i dont know =(19:25
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ForSparePartsHm.19:25
SolarisBoyForSpareParts: other than logging out and in and looking at what your logging into =)19:25
ForSparePartsthat'd work.19:25
SolarisBoyi think it should say what DM your logging into or if your using unity2d or so forth19:25
Spannielhi can anyone tell me how to create shortcuts in desktop19:28
sasukeSpanniel, try "ln -s source destination"19:29
rosco_ySpanniel, in the file managers (i.e., "Dolphin") you can right-click the file and create a link, and drag the link whereever you like19:30
jimmy51_jrib:  modified my script to delete bogus symlink, create new one, and all is well.19:32
jimmy51_jrib: thanks for the help!19:32
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noob7hi, does someone know if there is a way to calibrate a printer to make the printer print in the correct size? I found a cups calibrate toll but his one is only for color but not for the size/axes.19:35
noob7there is a printer which will print a drawn rectangle not in the same size as drawn19:36
th0rnoob7: unless things have changed (it has been a few years) you calibrate the software and the onscreen image to match the printer, not the other way around19:37
sasukehi can anyone tell me "how do i send a output of a file  "file.txt" from multiple servers to local machine as a single file as "file.csv"19:38
noob7so there is no tool/modul for cups or similar, to "calibrate" the printer? I mean to set a value for the width and height?19:39
jribsasuke: ask #bash but give more details19:39
set1hi19:39
noob7so cups would always calculate the right coordinats19:39
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sasukejrib, thank .. will do that19:40
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mustmodifySo I have some crontab events... I can see them from crontab -e ... but they are failing for some reason. If memory serves me, last time I had this problem it had something to do with an environmental setting that worked when I SSHd in but wasn't around for crontab ... one event looks like this: 0 * * * * /bin/bash -l -c 'cd /home/production/www.domain.com/releases/20130617035068 && RAILS_ENV=production bundle exec rake interface:company --silent' ... ca19:41
Ben64mustmodify: make a script, don't do "cd" and stuff like that in cron19:41
jribmustmodify: check syslog and your mail for what cron has to say19:42
noob7th0r, or do you mean by software the software I make the drawing with? couse cups is also software19:42
mustmodifyBen64: I didn't write that part... it was done automagically for me by a gem called 'whenever'. Is there a specific reason why that would fail?19:42
Ben64mustmodify: cron doesn't work like a shell does, use a script19:42
th0rnoob7: the cad or drawing software does the scaling, not the printer driver. At least that is how it used to work19:43
SoManyI've successfully setup an FTPS server with proftpd on xubuntu. Would anyone be so kind to check it out (just trying simple commands, etc.)19:43
noob7ok, thanks19:43
houkouonchi-homejrib: thanks for the info it did lead me to /etc/kernel/postrm.d/ which has the scripts it was running. I just removed them as I am manually running update-grub after removing the kernels.19:43
jribhoukouonchi-home: ok, don't forget to restore them after ;)  Also, my guess is that just removing executable permission may have been enough, but not sure19:44
ForSparePartsDoes anyone here use VMWare fusion? And if so, do you know if there's a way to get 3d acceleration working with an Ubuntu guest?19:44
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ForSpareParts(those who were talking to me before, it looks like the problem I had with Window Snap was that compiz isn't running, because of software rendering)19:45
SolarisBoyForSpareParts: thats what i thought it was.19:47
ForSparePartsSolarisBoy, you were right!19:47
elisa87hi, how to create x86 system image like in iso?19:47
* SolarisBoy dancin19:47
ForSparePartsIt turns out I *am* set to run in 3D, but it fails and falls back.19:47
ForSparePartsAs far as I can tell.19:47
jribForSpareParts: i have not used vbox in a long time but in the past I had to install guest additions19:48
ForSparePartsjrib, They were automatically installed. Apparently VMWare Fusion doesn't support 3D acceleration on Linux guests out of the box.19:48
jribForSpareParts: oh right, I read virtualbox instead of vmware somehow... never mind19:49
mike_papaI need help with fixing boot on USB stick. I have Lubuntu there, and I converted MBR to GPT. It didn't boot anymore, so I used gdisk to convert it back to MBR, which didn't help, then I did install-mbr, but it just gives me MBR 123F (prompt to select partition) and it doesn't boot no matter what I press.19:55
mumixamanyone know why im getting a sh shell instead of bash?19:55
mumixamhappened after a power fault, passwd is set to bash for my user19:56
JPetersonhow do i show the rest of the GUI in this case https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2z5p162ovqtbn17/N37lgpgldz/note/vmware#f:Ubuntu%20(unstable)-2013-06-17-21-57-27.png19:59
JPetersonthe picture is of adesktop with only a background19:59
JPetersonand DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal19:59
SoManyJPeterson: what version of ubuntu are you using?19:59
JPetersoncat /etc/issue20:00
JPetersonUbuntu Saucy Salamander (development branch) \n \l20:00
DJonesJPeterson: Please use #ubuntu+1 for 13.10 questions20:00
JPetersonDJones: why?20:01
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sloucherI can't seem to get 13.04 to install (single boot)on a macbook air. It doesn't find a drive to boot. It has something to do with efi? Anyone have a good link?20:01
DJonesJPeterson: Because thats the support channel for development versions of Ubuntu, this channel only deals with released versions20:02
djshotglassmy sd card doesnt show up in gparted20:02
JPetersonDJones: why?20:02
SoManydjshotglass, start gparted with sudo maybe?20:02
DJonesJPeterson: That is the channel policy20:02
JPetersonDJones: whats the reason20:02
zykotick9!gksudo | SoMany20:02
ubottuSoMany: If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)20:02
guillcoteHi20:03
DJones!saucy | JPeterson20:03
ubottuJPeterson: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+120:03
SoManyzykotick9, thanks20:03
guillcoteI would like help with my sound card20:03
SoManyguillcote: what's the problem?20:04
guillcoteNo sound20:05
gordonjcphow can I start to diagnose how the launcher won't find certain apps?20:05
SoManyguillcote, what version of ubuntu are you using? What computer are you using too?20:05
ispirtodo ext4 force fsck on power loss?20:05
guillcoteLinux tolede 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux20:05
SoManyguillcote: do you recall the last thing you did before the sound stopped working?20:05
guillcoteFrom the forum, I did :20:05
gordonjcpon 12.04, if I install Xastir, hit <super> and type in "xastir" it says "Sorry, there is nothing that matches your search"20:06
gordonjcpif I hit <alt-f2> and type "xastir" it finds it20:06
guillcotesudo lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"                15:2420:06
guillcote00:05.0 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)20:06
guillcoteSubsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 730920:06
guillcoteFlags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 520:06
guillcoteMemory at dff78000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]20:06
guillcoteCapabilities: [44] Power Management version 220:06
guillcoteCapabilities: [50] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable+ 64bit+20:06
FloodBot1guillcote: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.20:06
guillcoteCapabilities: [6c] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping Enable- Fixed+20:06
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, did you take a look at my paste?20:06
SolarisBoynope started working again20:07
nadohi again20:07
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robbertjan1234badum tss20:07
nadoi dont have /usr/bin/man20:07
nadoand man package dont provide it20:07
rheathanks guillcote20:07
SoManynado: just go woman ;-)20:07
nadotss20:07
nadoso easy20:07
nado:D20:07
guillcotehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5775099/20:07
nadoso, wtf ?20:08
robbertjan1234www.nobrain.dk is what your lokkin' for...20:08
robbertjan1234lookin'*20:08
FFF1how do I trick a wine app to think it is always in focus even when I am off doing something else on the computer? I say trick because I am assuming this is difficult, but then again I come from knowing how Win7 works.20:08
SoManyguillcote, thanks20:08
FFF1i have dual booted win7+ubuntu20:08
guillcoteThey said to check at http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Nvidia to see if it is supported20:08
SoManyguillcote: what type of computer are you using? (if laptop, tell me the model)20:09
houkouonchi-homejrib: well honestly these machines are test lab machines that get reimaged pretty often and kernels never get removed until now with a script I am making which will run via cron so should be fine to leave those files in the dust.20:09
guillcoteI am looking, but I can find if it matchs20:09
guillcoteThe computer is a desktop20:09
guillcoteWhat would you like to know about it?20:09
SoManyguillcote, ok. Do you recall the last thing you did before it stopped working?20:10
guillcoteI don't remember that it worked20:10
SoManyguillcote, So it never worked, right?20:10
guillcoteI been using the computer mostly endless20:10
guillcoteBut now it has a monitor and speakers.20:11
elisa87histo: Hi, does debootstrap create /sbin/init for me?20:11
Spannielwhy cant i acess c: using ubuntu20:12
nightflySpanniel: What are you trying20:12
guillcotesomay:right20:13
hihi scooby20:13
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nadoso, no one about mysteriously absent man bin ?20:13
Spannieltrying to put a shortcut for vlc in desktop,cant find where i installed vlc unlike in windows20:13
zykotick9Spanniel: try "whereis vlc"20:13
th0rSpanniel: or 'which vlc'20:14
SolarisBoynado: sudo dpkg -l man-db20:14
SolarisBoymeh dont really need sudo20:14
SpannielVLC media player 2.0.5 Twoflower20:15
nadoSolarisBoy: so man-db is the package providing man bin ?20:15
nadothx20:15
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SolarisBoynado yes20:15
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nadosometimes i wonder why there are not standard name for such package across distributions :)20:16
SolarisBoyinternet would collapse20:16
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bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, do you remember my autostart issue? here's that .conf file I made now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774800/20:18
SolarisBoyalright bennypr0fane - do you have the command line that worked in the past for you when starting devils pie manually?20:21
SolarisBoywhen i run devilspie with no arguments i get a complaint about No s-expressions loaded, and that seems to cause the error on startup/unknown instance20:21
trismSolarisBoy: he should probably be using xdg autostart to start devilspie in lubuntu (since the upstart script is going to start before x loads)20:22
guillcoteCan somebody help me with my sound card?20:23
SolarisBoyahh nice trism - i actually was trying to see if we can get it to start on the signal emit when the display manager starts20:23
SolarisBoybut if that wont work - autostart seems doable20:23
trismSolarisBoy: we do have that support in 13.04 if you are running unity, but I don't think there is an lubuntu session yet20:23
SolarisBoygot ya20:24
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: make it an autostart job then20:24
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, I haven't gotten anything working yet, I believe20:24
bennypr0faneyou gave me a command to check for that, but I don't know how to read the output20:24
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5775143/20:25
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: trism is saying make it an autorun job20:25
SolarisBoy?20:25
SolarisBoyleafpad?20:25
readyjarHow come the notifications deal always says im offline, and I can't seem to add any online accounts20:25
readyjarUsing ubuntu 13.04 with gnome shell20:25
readyjarAnd using the gnome online accounts20:26
Sirisian|WorkI know the packages system exists on the ubuntu site, but is there any other side where I can feed it a package name found with dpkg and find which package might have installed it?20:26
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: make it an autostart job - from the gui - type startup applications and you should be able to add one20:26
Sirisian|Worksite*20:26
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, afaik that works only with GUI applications, whgich devil's pie is not20:26
bennypr0faneI'm running Gnome SHell btw20:27
X-Sleepy-XHey all! Anyone know how to extend the guake terminal to the left and right to fill the gap from the missing decoration?20:27
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: then put it in rc.local20:27
bennypr0faneumib0zu, alright20:27
jribSirisian|Work: your question is confusing.  You say you want to feed a package name and find which package installed it.  Do you mean you want to find a packages dependencies?20:27
bennypr0fanenot umib0zu , just um20:28
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, did you check if my script is ok now?20:28
jribbennypr0fane: use startup applications like SolarisBoy first suggested20:28
Sirisian|Workjrib, other way around. Find out which package has it as a depedency.20:28
dogsbonewaterhey, is there channel for mac/apple?20:28
bennypr0fanejrib, not possible like I said20:28
jribSirisian|Work: apt-cache rdepends PACKAGE20:28
bennypr0fanethat's what I tried first20:28
jribbennypr0fane: why is it not possible?20:29
SolarisBoyi'll need to convince myself that you can't run a cli app from startup apps...20:29
Daboone7226/quit20:29
zykotick9Sirisian|Work: "apt-cache depends foo" or "apt-cache rdepnds foo".... or even "aptitude why foo"20:29
SolarisBoybut i dont want to reboot to test it20:29
jribbennypr0fane: startup applications is not somehow limited to gui applications20:29
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, if you find how to do it, please tell me20:29
bennypr0faneI'll try and test it20:29
bennypr0faneI looked in Gnome settings20:30
dogsbonewatermothberfuuuck gnome20:30
dogsbonewateris there mac apple chanel20:30
jrib!language | dogsbonewater20:30
ubottudogsbonewater: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.20:30
zykotick9SolarisBoy: most terminals have a switch to run something, like "xterm -e foo.sh" or similar20:30
dogsbonewaterim ask question , answer?20:30
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: yea go to startup applications - go to browse - find/select devils pie and fill in the other info20:30
jrib!alis | dogsbonewater20:30
ubottudogsbonewater: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*20:30
dogsbonewatertnx..20:30
SolarisBoyname/description there is nothing else it needs or would prevent it from running20:30
readyjarUbuntu 13.04 using Gnome shell, can't add online accounts and notifications always says im offline20:30
readyjarWhats up with that20:30
SolarisBoyzykotick9: indeed they do20:30
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: another thing which may be your issue is as stated the devilspie command is expecting files that end in *.ds in some locations - do you have them?20:31
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, startup applications must have a different name in my GUI, which is in german20:31
bennypr0faneno idea20:31
SolarisBoycant help you there i only speak ruby other than english20:31
bennypr0fanewhere would I look for those20:31
SolarisBoyi typed "startup" and it pops up20:32
Sirisian|Workthanks jrib.20:32
SolarisBoymaybe type the german equiv?20:32
SolarisBoysvartup20:32
SolarisBoysvartenuppen or whatever20:32
bennypr0fanehaha very funny. looks like it's "Startprogramme"20:33
SolarisBoy;>20:33
BiosHazardHi guys, a question, when I start a program by ssh using "ssh <name>@<addr> <program> > /dev/null 2> /dev/null" an ssh session will stay open. I can terminate it without the program terminating. Is there a way to start the program without the ssh staying open?20:34
bennypr0faneif I press "add" I get a dialog with "name", "command" and "comment"20:34
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SolarisBoybennypr0fane: correct20:34
SolarisBoyyour in the right place20:35
bennypr0fane"command" opens a file manger window to search for the devil's pie executable, I guess? or the .conf file that I made?20:35
benediktif i run ubuntu with a non-standard window manager (xmonad), does this circumvent the spyware in ubuntu?20:35
bennypr0fanebenedikt, I think the best way to avoid that is to remove it20:35
zykotick9BiosHazard: i'm not sure what your asking, but would tmux or screen help?20:35
benediktburbankboy:20:35
benediktbennypr0fane: how does one remove it?20:36
jribbenedikt: there isn't spyware so not sure what you mean20:36
Slartbenedikt: what spyware are you talking about? the amazon plugin thingy?20:36
bennypr0fanebenedikt, there are plenty of how to's e.g. on youtube just google it. It shouldn't be a big deal20:36
benediktjrib: yes there is. the unity menyu sends your searches to (at least amazon) and you give canonical the right to share this data with facebook (amongst others). you have to opt out, hence it is spyware20:36
benediktbennypr0fane: right, thanks20:37
floogyHi, how can I test that my nic is enabled for WOL?20:37
jribbenedikt: that's not spyware, but see ubottu and yes, if you aren't using dash (you aren't), then you won't interact with it20:37
jrib!adlens | benedikt20:37
ubottubenedikt: If you wish not to see "More Suggestions" from places like Amazon in your Ubuntu 12.10, simply remove the package unity-lens-shopping, or adjust your Privacy settings as shown here: http://goo.gl/kFO4u . Mark Shuttleworth's blog entry on this is at http://goo.gl/uF7zZ20:37
nadoBiosHazard: yes, tell your application go directly in background20:38
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, do I look for the devil's pie executable or point it to the script that I made?20:38
nadoBiosHazard: '<program> &'20:38
MonkeyDust highlight spyware20:38
BiosHazardWell, my problem is, I use a bash script to start about 20 nodes across a small network (it's a distributed system). When I just use ssh as I would manually, ps aux | grep ssh shows an active ssh process for every started node. Node if I just terminate those 20 processes, the nodes stay active. Now I was wondering if there is a simple way to have the ssh connection terminate after starting the program...20:38
benediktjrib: that is what spyware is. both the EFF and FSF have made serious complaints20:38
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: make it the output of which devilspie20:38
jribbenedikt: does ubottu's response answer your question?20:38
nadoBiosHazard: yes, background your applications will let ssh close20:39
bennypr0fane/usr/bin/devilspie20:39
SolarisBoybennypr0fane: open a terminal and type which devilspie - copy and paste the returned data into that area then20:39
BiosHazardYea, I use "ssh <name>@<addr> <program> > /dev/null 2> /dev/null &" but the connection stays open, still :/20:39
BiosHazardor does the & go before the stream redirects?20:39
nadoBiosHazard: because & is locally, you need to add ' or " to tell & being on the ssh server20:39
BiosHazardOoooh !! that sounds about right, let me try :D20:40
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, ok, done. but then I don't need that script in /etc/init, right? Should I delete thaT?20:40
zykotick9nado: i think BiosHazard needs to relacate that & as well... but i'm guessing this won't work.20:41
MonkeyDustbenedikt  if this so called "spy ware"-like issue worries you: system settings >  privacy20:41
benediktMonkeyDust: it worries me that my operating system has privacy settings. but ubuntu is the best linux distro imo, if i look at it with a utilitaries and techinical view.20:42
nadozykotick9: indeed, enclose with ' and relocate the &20:42
UTF-8Abbiamo l'Italia?20:42
bennypr0faneMonkeyDust, I'm pretty sure it fits the definition of spyware exactly20:42
_AceEmacs or ViM20:42
ActrekaVim!20:42
bennypr0fane!it UTF-820:42
MonkeyDustbenedikt  true, it's controversial, but if you want to discuss it, better go to #ubuntu-offtopic20:42
jribbenedikt, bennypr0fane, MonkeyDust: please if you want to discuss the semantics of spyware, use #ubuntu-offtopic.  It's worthy of discussion, but it's not a support issue20:43
genii!polls | _Ace20:43
ubottu_Ace: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.20:43
bennypr0fanejrib sure, I'm done anyway20:43
UTF-8bennypr0fane, si si20:43
benediktjrib: you are right20:43
_Aceyea Vim for the win20:43
BiosHazardnado: omg, using 'ssh <name>@<addr> "<program> > /dev/null 2> /dev/null &" ' worked, thank you so much ^__^20:43
bennypr0faneUTF-8 no purtroppo. solo inglese qui. c'è un canale italiano però20:44
UTF-8bennypr0fane, or yes, understand a little english language20:44
UTF-8bennypr0fane, d'accordo, cmq non è che mi sapresti indicare un buon canale per intenditori di javascript che non disdegnagno di insegnare ai neofiti?20:45
ncmcxxi installed ubuntu on a windows machine but it just boots windows how can I dual boot?20:45
zykotick9BiosHazard: fyi there is some 2&> that redirects both standardin and error at the same time, but 2&> is probably not right!  but it's like that...  glad you got it working.  i didn't thing & would work...  !cookie for nado ;)20:46
Winnie^hi. i am trying to ban an ip from my server but ufw seams not to be working correctly. the rule: "ufw deny from 173.199.114.219" but the ip (from ahrefs.com) is still indexing our website. any suggestions?20:46
SolarisBoyWinnie^: are you sure it's one IP address?20:47
bennypr0faneUTF-8 try #ubuntu-it per supporto per Ubuntu in italiano. X l'altra cosa, non ho idea, ma prova ##javascript?20:47
kcherkashinHi Guys, I have a weird question, not sure what would be the best channel for it: I have two files, first has 30k words, one on each line, the second one has translations. The bad thing is that one line in first file can have one or more lines in the second file so the file has 50k lines. What would be the best way to restore line to line relationship?20:47
readyjarNotifications tab under my user name always says im off line. WhY??20:47
UTF-8bennypr0fane, grazie, ciao20:47
bennypr0faneSolarisBoy, see my last question? I'm wondering if I should delete that script in /etc/init20:48
Winnie^SolarisBoy: in this case it's the same ip address. i can see it in my access.logs i know that they probably have several ips but it's not the case atm20:48
wilee-nileencmcxx, What is the windows release?20:48
wilee-nileeand how did you install?20:49
bennypr0faneI gotta starting doing my how-to searches in German first. that way the answers should also contain the GUI terms in German...20:49
Slartkcherkashin: how do you know if a translation in the second file is one or two lines?20:49
BiosHazardkcherkashin: is there a way to determine where a translation ends? Or any other way to know how many lines of the second file belong to a word in the first file?20:50
kcherkashinBiosHazard: Slart: That's the problem, there is no way to figure this out, but to look it up in the dictionary20:50
Winnie^SolarisBoy: they ignore the robots.txt, this was my first try to get the rid of them...so 2. try is to collect and ban their ips :/20:50
Slartkcherkashin: then you might as well lookup every word in the first file and put that in a new translation file20:51
BiosHazardSlart: that's what I was gonna say xP20:51
readyjarDoes 13.04 support dual boot?20:52
SlartBiosHazard: =)20:52
MonkeyDustreadyjar  the boitloader is called GRUB20:52
kcherkashinSlart: Specific set of translations is needed20:52
MonkeyDustbootloader*20:52
wilee-nileereadyjar, any linux can be multibooted20:52
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readyjarMonkeyDust: I know this. Can I install it next to windows? I heard somewhere that 13.04 is broken in that respect20:53
Slartkcherkashin: could you put the first 30 or so lines from each file on pastebin so we can see what it looks like?20:53
Slart!pastebin | kcherkashin20:53
ubottukcherkashin: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.20:53
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nadozykotick9: :3 & might work even after redirection, because you juste background the redirection process with the main one20:55
kcherkashinSlart:20:56
kcherkashinhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5775223/20:56
kcherkashinsomething like this20:56
kcherkashinTheactual files are in excel format, will have to preprocess it to get the lines20:56
zykotick9nado: i was very suprised that worked, with the location of the & - but hey, you where correct, can't argue with results ;)  "nice" btw.20:57
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wilee-nileereadyjar, The installs are now a little different if you have W8 with an UEFI, gpt setups is all, no inherent problems otherwise besides users skills.20:57
floogyWake on lan is not working here.20:57
Slartkcherkashin: ok, it looks like there really isn't anything that tells you if two lines might belong together.. I think you'll have to do this manually.. unfortunately20:58
kcherkashinSlart: That's what I was afraid of. Maybe could be possible to use some dictionary API, so we can at least separate the words it knows?20:59
Slartkcherkashin: perhaps.. I don't know if google exposes their translation api but it might be worth looking into20:59
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Slartkcherkashin: this looks like it might be useful https://github.com/terryyin/google-translate-python21:01
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kcherkashinSlart: Will look into it21:01
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kcherkashinAnother questions, if I'd  have to do that manually21:01
kcherkashinIs there a way to translate a file with 30k words?21:02
Guest46439google translate? :D21:02
Slartkcherkashin: I would say use python with that google translate library.. you'll have to check the translations manually of course if you're going to depend on it being correct21:04
kcherkashinSlart: I'm pretty sure it'll be slow over the network, and will have a limit on amour of words I can translate per given interval21:04
Slartkcherkashin: will it be slower than doing it manually?21:05
kcherkashinSlart: Maybe I'm missing something, but since there is no 100% guarantee that words from second file will be in google translate result, it may require a lot of headache with the script  manual check afterwards, so I'm not sure. It's something to consider though for sure21:07
nadooh god, this so much better when ignoring all these join/part messages21:08
Winnie^is it a to translation related channel or acout ubuntu? :>21:08
SlartWinnie^: good point... sorry21:08
DS-labsHi guys Ubuntu seriously keeps overheating my Laptop like crazy I installed lm-sensors and it shows temp6:       +127.0°C  (crit = +128.0°C)21:09
Winnie^i would not mind if have not a ubuntu related problem with ufw :)21:09
DS-labsany good way to find out which chip is temp621:10
SlartDS-labs: 127 degrees seems a bit.. on the high side.. is it really warm? or just a weird temperature reading?21:11
DS-labsit's quite warm but I higly doubt it's over a 10021:11
Dark_lightAnyone experiencing random kernel panics on 13.04 ? I have a pretty standard laptop with sandy bridge and intel graphics, on other distros I don't have this issue21:11
DS-labsI think the 70°C are closer21:11
SlartDS-labs: sometimes you find people who knows how the laptops are made and decides to share that knowledge.. most of the time you're just guessing21:12
Winnie^DS-labs: sure thats i celsius and not fahrenheit?21:12
DS-labs.......yes21:12
DS-labsI think the °C in the reading KIIIINDA gives it away21:12
DS-labs@Slart that's why I want to find out which chip is temp6 so I could check21:13
MonkeyDustDS-labs  127, so a drop of water should immediately vaporize... unlikely21:13
BiosHazardAre you sure that's the actual temperature, not only an error in a one byte temp sensor?21:13
SlartDS-labs: it might be that lm-sensors *thinks* it's in celsius when it's really in farenheit.. 120-ish degrees farenheit does seem more reasonable21:13
PunchDont want to spam the chat, so link = http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215520821:13
DS-labstrust me it's celsius21:13
DS-labstemp3:        +59.0°C  (crit = +128.0°C)21:14
DS-labstemp4:        +66.0°C  (crit = +128.0°C)21:14
DS-labstemp5:        +29.0°C  (crit = +128.0°C)21:14
DS-labstemp6:       +127.0°C  (crit = +128.0°C)21:14
BiosHazardDS-labs: Are you sure that's the actual temperature, not only an error in a one byte temp sensor? At 120°C wouldn't the case already be melting? :/21:14
DS-labsaliminium casing21:14
MonkeyDustFukushima II21:14
Dark_lightthat temperature is bogus or you'd be on fire21:15
DS-labssigh physics is not your strong point ?21:15
Winnie^how wants some fried eggs? DS-labs gives a round for free21:15
Winnie^who :)21:15
readyjarIt's only 20 degrees C over boiling :)21:15
DS-labsboiling point of water21:16
Dark_lightprobably not but I'm pretty sure a cpu burns at 127 C21:16
DS-labswhich also depends on pressure21:16
DS-labsthe boiling point of water that is21:16
SlartDS-labs: I think we can all agree that your computer isn't 120 degrees anywhere... why some software claims this is another question21:16
DS-labsI didn't say it was21:16
DS-labsmy original question was and still is21:16
DS-labsis there a way to check what temp6 equals which chip it is21:16
Punchhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=215520821:17
DS-labsthank you Punch21:17
SlartDS-labs: I would ask the manufacturer.. send an email to some support-address, ask in a forum or something like that21:17
BiosHazardYea, open the thing, and touch the chips. The one where you get a burn blister is t6 :P21:17
readyjarPower it off for a night. Check to see what the sensor says right after powering on21:18
DS-labssigh.... how about I just look in the conf file?21:18
DS-labsI feel almost like this was not a linux community21:19
readyjarDS-labs is uber 133721:19
MonkeyDustDS-labs  it's because 127°C is just too improbable21:19
DS-labsand I said that I also think it's a bug21:19
lukecarrierthis channel can be super flamey sometimes21:19
DS-labsand my question was NOT weather it's probable21:20
DS-labsor if it is 12721:20
Dark_lightDS-labs:  temperatures are taken by the coretemp module there's no conf file also if you're on 3.7 (for some reason) there's a bug in coretemp it always report higher temperatures than normal I'm not sure if it's in 3.8 too21:20
DS-labsbut there is a conf file that tells the sensors in which order to display info21:20
Dark_lightsure but then you could just look in /proc21:21
Dark_lightsorry I meant21:21
Dark_light / sys21:21
DS-labsaye21:21
DS-labsand thus we conclude my original question21:21
DS-labswhat a joy ride it has been21:21
vjacobHiya. Any idea why a "dd if=/dev/random of=delete.this" does not seem to do much?21:21
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DS-labsI am SO switching back to arch21:22
vjacobDS-labs, whats up?21:23
vjacobArch does this and Ubuntu doesn't?21:23
DS-labshmm21:23
DS-labswhat21:23
DS-labsno21:23
readyjarDS-labs is funny21:23
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vjacobaye don't now :)21:25
Dark_lightDS-labs: honestly if you don't even know there's a module that reads the temps and where to find them you're going to have issues no matter what distro you use, my suggestion for now would be check the temps in /sys and if they are actually reported that high try a kernel from the mainline ppa or just build a recent (3.9.x) one yourself21:25
vjacobanyone with an idea where I might ask my question about /dev/random if not here?21:26
_Zpossible to burn iso to a usb in mac then boot on windows?21:26
Slartvjacob: does it do the same if you use /dev/urandom?21:27
jswagnervjacob: it's not distro specific, so any general "linux" support room would be the right place21:27
Dark_lightvjacob: cat /dev/random displays something?21:27
Crosant_Z: look at unetbootin21:27
DS-labsand when have I said any of that for fuck sake are you illiterate I had a simple question which nobody was unable to answer and in the end I found my own solution because most of you fuckwits were too busy explaining how 127 seems improbable something that I stated originally and never considered a real problem21:28
vjacobaye, all good points. trying now.21:28
DS-labsjesus christ I can see why the linux community hates ubuntu users21:28
DS-labsit's like talking to indian tech support21:28
_ZCrosant: i wanted to stay in the cli21:29
jswagner_Z: use 'dd'21:29
MonkeyDustDS-labs  no ranting here please, we get the point21:29
Crosanthmmm21:29
Crosantyeah use did21:29
Dark_lightDS-labs: you should know since your english is just as bad, nobody was unable is a double negative21:29
Crosantdd *21:29
jswagnerDS-labs: Dark_light: please don't21:29
DS-labsFINE21:30
DS-labsI won't21:30
DS-labsI am sorry if I caused offense21:30
DS-labsor w/e21:30
MonkeyDustDS-labs  for future reference: how did you find what was the cause?21:30
Dark_lightDS-labs: regarding your issue try what I said, in my opinion it's likely to be a coretemp issue21:30
_Zi used dd as per example on ubuntus website but cant boot on windows only mac21:30
snkcldis it possible to perform memtest on an efi machine?21:30
vjacobSlart, how did you guess?21:31
Slartvjacob: huh?21:31
vjacobDark_light, "���^Cu�!5^΢���1"21:31
vjacobSlart: urandom21:31
vjacobit works21:31
vjacobDark_light, and it's random again, if I run the command again21:32
Guest25062Pardon me' but is there a way to get Proxy setting set before the Install?21:32
Slartvjacob: /dev/urandom gives you pseudorandom numbers... ie calculated.. but it's much much faster.. /dev/random gives you better random numbers but it can only give you such many numbers before it has to gather more entropy.. so you get one number every second or so.21:32
Dark_lightvjacob: do this dd if=/dev/random of=test bs=10021:32
nibblersometimes i cannot suspend via the menu, but have to "sudo pm-suspend" - what might be the reason?21:33
vjacobSlart, aye... "<binaryhermit> /dev/random runs out of entropy and stops outputting random randomness?  /dev/urandom doesn't care if it runs out of entropy."21:33
sasukehi i have two machines A & B. I am able to do ping & able to ssh / vice versa. But i was unable to scp. What might be the problem?21:33
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vjacobDark_light, Slart : thank you21:33
nibblersasuke: did you try to supply -vvv to increase verbosity?21:33
Slartvjacob: combine this with the fact that dd only writes stuff when it has gathered something like 128 bytes or so you won't see anything right away.. but if you let it run for a while the file will get created21:33
Slartvjacob: you're welcome21:34
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vjacobinteresting. Will try to keep this in mind.21:34
nibblervjacob: just move your mouse and randomly hit the keyboard, to create entropy faster21:34
sasukenibbler, yes21:34
sasukebut it didnt work21:34
loloHi I am using ubuntu from livecd, and want to check for a file in a ntfs volume (just to open it), but I want to be sure to mount the partition in read only, do you know if it's possible from nautilus ? (for now, if I click mount it mounts it with read/write permission)21:34
vjacobnibbler, I try to do as little as possible of that ;)21:34
nibblersasuke: verbosity will not make things work, but it might tell you why they dont21:34
_Ace_sasuke: what error are you getting21:34
sasukenibbler, its saying "no route to host"21:35
Slartlolo: I've never mounted a ntfs volume as read only.. but I would start by checking man mount21:35
Slartlolo: but I doubt you can do it from nautilus21:35
nibblersasuke: nah.... please nopaste the scp, ssh and "ip r" and "ip a" output and maybe "iptables -n -L -v"21:35
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lolook thx Slart21:35
DJTwher does it talk about prog?21:36
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gordonjcplolo: mount from the command line with something like "sudo mount -o ro /path/to/device /path/to/mountpoint"21:36
silareHow do I know what version of Gtk I am running?21:37
caninI can't burn any of these ISO backups I have, every single piece of software on linux seems to either make a coaster, or refuses to burn these ISOs, I know they're good, I can burn and mount them in windows. Is there seriously not a single program that will just raw burn a raw binary image?21:38
DS-labssilare: pkg-config --modversion gtk+21:38
jswagnercanin: i doubt they are all identically flawed21:39
silareDS-labs: "No package 'gtk+' found" o_O21:39
DS-labsnot installed21:39
Slartcanin: I've never had any problems burning cd's or dvd's in linux.. might be a problem with the linux and your hardware.. I doubt it's the burning software21:39
silareDS-labs: Weird... because I'm on Ubuntu 13.04 (Unity). o_O Which I think is using Gtk.21:39
caninThey're raw data, dd + hash check = they're fine, but nothign will burn them becuse they're not standard dvds21:39
DS-labsoooh21:39
DS-labsthen21:39
DS-labspkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.021:39
Dark_lightcanin: can you mount them in linux ? mount -o loop img.iso /mnt21:39
sneexPardon me; but is there a way to get Proxy setting set before the Install?21:39
silareOhh. got it. I tried that command with gtk+-3.0 and it worked. xD THanks!21:40
DS-labsno problem21:40
caninI can burn regular dvds but everything refuses to burn these isos because they analyze them and screw up... all i want is a raw burn21:40
nibblersneex: during ubuntu install you can define a proxy, yes21:40
Jordan_Ucanin: What is the source of this "raw data"?21:41
Slartcanin: oh, I see.. not an iso... not so sure then.. google gives you nothing?21:41
nibblercanin: wodim /path/to/iso.iso21:41
Dark_lightcanin: or cdrecord dev=/dev/sr0 (or whatever it is) path/to/iso21:41
sneexwhat is the syntax for 13.04 - I haven't figure that out in 5 installs21:41
HeyMan7-CloudHello, I am new I am trying to install wine. I follow the steps here - "http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu" and it gives me an error when I try to download both versions. (1.4 ans 1.5) [Errors here - http://pastie.org/8053372]21:41
wheatthinHeyMan7-Cloud, you need to install wine using apt-get21:42
k1l!wine | HeyMan7-Cloud21:42
ubottuHeyMan7-Cloud: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu21:42
nibblerDark_light: cdrecord is a symlink to wodim usually, as the cdrecord coder went nuts at some point in time ;-)21:42
k1lHeyMan7-Cloud: why dont you use the ubuntu package for wine?21:42
HeyMan7-Cloudk1l: What do you mean?21:43
wheatthinthrough software center or apt-get21:43
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k1lHeyMan7-Cloud: you know about tha package system? ubuntu brings alpot of stuff prepacked for you21:43
HeyMan7-CloudI tried the terminal way as well, it failed.21:43
Dark_lightHeyMan7-Cloud: apt-get install wine ?21:43
sneexnibbler: Sorry, reasking  :Pwhat is the syntax for 13.04 - I haven't figure that out in 5 installs21:43
wheatthinwhat failed about it?21:43
HeyMan7-CloudDark_light: Yes.21:44
HeyMan7-Cloudwine1.421:44
k1lHeyMan7-Cloud: what failed? show the exact error please21:44
arooni-mobilei have a laptop and ubuntu 13.04;  when i put something in the sudo crontab to happen at 6AM but my laptop is suspended;  it seems like the command is never run (when the laptop eventually wakes up)... how can i fix this?21:44
* sneex I installed Netflix - wine came with it21:45
HisaoNakaiHello, I'm attempting to upgrade 12.04 to 12.10 and subsequently 13.04, but the wireless connection keeps dropping and reconnecting.21:45
MonkeyDustarooni-mobile  make sure you use complete paths in cron, so /home/username and not ~21:45
HeyMan7-CloudHere is the terminal error - http://pastie.org/805341021:46
Slartarooni-mobile: do you want it to wake your computer up at 6 or do you want the job to run when it wakes up and realises that a task is overdue21:46
HisaoNakaiGod damn it, it just dropped again.21:46
arooni-mobileSlart, i want the job to run when the laptpo eventually wakes up21:46
wheatthinshhh, reframe from cursing plz21:46
Dark_lightHisaoNakai: what wireless card?21:46
MonkeyDustarooni-mobile  i use @reboot to clear .cache21:46
Dark_lightHisaoNakai: and have you already upgraded to 12.10 or partially upgraded ?21:47
arooni-mobileMonkeyDust, can you be more specific please?  i put @reboot in the crontab file?21:47
HisaoNakaiWireless card is a small TP-LINK USB adapter, and it's only partially downloaded.21:47
MonkeyDustarooni-mobile  yes, so not 0 6 * * * , but @reboot [command]21:47
HisaoNakaiIt's seeing the network, so it IS being recognised by Ubuntu,it just refuses to stay connected.21:48
k1lHeyMan7-Cloud: which ubuntu is that exactly?21:48
HisaoNakaiIt seems to only drop when Update Manager does something.21:48
HeyMan7-CloudSorry, 13.0421:48
HisaoNakaiStruggles to connect, then disconnects for no real reason.21:49
wheatthinHisaoNakai, hmm hows the signal strength?21:49
HeyMan7-CloudHisaoNakai: Are you using wifi21:49
Jordan_Ucanin: If the file doesn't have an iso9660 filesystem, then it's not an iso. If you're trying to burn a .bin file (with an accompaning .cue file) then you'll need to use different software / options. What is the source of this "raw data"?21:49
canincdrecord and wodim does not work either, cannot write medium - incompatible format.... WHY CAN'T I WRITE RAW DATA? There's gotta be a way, I can in mac and windows with some programs21:50
caninJordan_U: It's old dd'd data from firmware DVDs21:50
crackerjackGood Evening21:50
Dark_lightcanin: what does file name.iso says?21:50
Slartarooni-mobile: it seems regular cron doesn't do this.. I'm not sure which cron daemon ubuntu uses but anacron is one that can run missed jobs, not sure if it does it by default though21:50
k1lHeyMan7-Cloud: do you have PPAs enabled?21:51
Sirisian|WorkRemind me again. Why is app armor installed by default on ubuntu server? Seems like 90% of the servers I've ever logged into manually uninstall it.21:51
HeyMan7-Cloudk1l: What is that exactly?21:51
Dark_lightHisaoNakai: lspci -k | grep Net -A 2 what does it say ?21:51
k1lHeyMan7-Cloud: 3rd party package repositories21:52
caninDark_light: 326236.iso just numbers, I think it's actually a bin but names .iso jsut because when it was being used in windows the program just appended the .iso21:52
MonkeyDustSirisian|Work  it's switched on by default, so it's the user's own choice and responability to switch it off21:52
HeyMan7-Cloudk1l: Then I dunno. How do you check?21:52
k1lls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d21:52
HisaoNakaiwheatthin and HeyMan7-Cloud: Wifi signal strength is 2 bars and the dot.21:53
Dark_lightcanin:  use bchunk, bchunk file.bin file.cue file.iso21:53
Jordan_USirisian|Work: Because it adds security. I'd say that unless those admins replaced it with selinux or similar that they were being irresponsible to just disable it.21:53
Pinkamena_DHello, I had desktop cube working fine in 12.10, but I had to downgrade to 12.04 for other reasons. After reinstall I am getting that "flash" on rotation, and windows will not move from one workspace to another with the keyboard. I remember I fixed this before, but I forgot how.21:53
Pinkamena_DAnyone else fix this issue?21:53
wheatthinPinkamena_D, are you talking about compiz?21:54
Sirisian|WorkJordan_U, yeah I'm keeping it installed. Was trying to figure out why it's always uninstalled. Thanks.21:54
Sirisian|WorkI*21:54
HisaoNakaiDark_light: nothing comes back from that commend21:54
caninDark_light: Will try that... man google gives nothing for "burn raw to disk ubuntu" and all sorts of similiar searches, it automatically assumes i'm trying to burn a ripped dvd iso21:54
Dark_lightHisaoNakai: just paste the whole lspci -k output somewhere21:55
HeyMan7-Cloudk1l: I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5775383/21:55
wheatthinHisaoNakai, pastebinit works well for that21:55
k1lHeyMan7-Cloud: ok, then contact the ubuntu-wine-ppa maintainer21:56
HisaoNakaiwheatthin: I've just copied the entire terminal (nothing big, just an attempted update manager followed by several failed attempts at typing the command, then typing it a few different ways21:56
HeyMan7-Cloudk1l: I am in #winehq through another person. Thanks for your help.21:56
crackerjackevening21:57
crackerjackyou want some more of this hot firE?21:57
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sanhi21:57
k1lHeyMan7-Cloud: ubuntu got a own wine1.4 package. the PPA wine package might make the problem here21:57
Jordan_USirisian|Work: Sometimes people will run into prolems where Apparmor is blocking an action that they feel is legitimate (and may either be legitimate or may be caused by them trying to do something in an insecure / bizzarre way). Rather than changing their configuration (either of the app, or of the Apparmor profile) to avoid the one blocked action, they disable Apparmor altogether, greatly reducing their security.21:57
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crackerjackWAZUP CRACKERS?21:57
Sirisian|WorkJordan_U, I thought app armor only logs and never blocks until you configure it?21:58
MonkeyDustcrackerjack  wrong channel21:58
Jordan_USirisian|Work: It definitely blocks by default.21:58
crackerjacksorry MonkeyDust21:58
HeyMan7-Cloudlol wut21:58
crackerjackhow are you?21:58
delinquentmeany of the devs on underscore.js in here? I'm interested in running a commit for multi-dim array intersections21:59
delinquentmederp! wrong chan21:59
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caninif I try bchunk -r /home/canin/Documents/dvdtmp/253.bin /home/canin/Documents/dvdtmp/253.iso It does nothing... do I need a cue? Don't have one, wish I could find someone in linux to burn raw.22:00
cortexman1does anyone know how to create a virtual soundcard on raring using i.e. snd-dummy? does it require building a new kernel?22:01
HisaoNakaiapparently my laptop22:01
wheatthincanin, why not make an iso and then burn it?22:01
ShehrazadSo,22:02
Shehrazad when I open a new program from terminal, I need to keep terminal window open unless I end the command with &&22:02
Jordan_Ucanin: I don't think you understood Dark_light's question. Please run "file 326236.iso" and pastebin the output of that command.22:02
ShehrazadWhat should I do to bbe able to close the termial without closing the program?22:02
HisaoNakaiapparently my laptop's power-saving thing includes turning off wifi, even when Spotify is streaming. Windows, I hate you but I need you...22:02
Dark_lightShehrazad: just do like: gedit & and then: exit22:02
SlartShehrazad: run the command with a &   and you can try typing exit instead of just closing the terminal window22:03
HisaoNakaiPasting the Terminal output into Pastebin is going horribly.22:03
ShehrazadSuppose I forgot to do that in the first place, Dark_light22:03
HisaoNakaiI got to the Pastebin page, pasted things in, and then connection dropped again.22:03
ewi_Shehrazad: one & will allow you to run a program & give you a command prompt... && will allow you to add another command to the first one, and will only run if the first command completes successfully22:03
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caninSome are # UDF filesystem data (version 1.5) 'ZU and some are ": data"22:04
AnuhakHello, using PCManFM on lxde, how do get it I to warn me about file space limitations before a file copying operation?22:04
HisaoNakaiOkay, connected again, let's see if it gets posted...22:04
ShehrazadLet me rephrase my question in that light then ewi_.22:04
kant_hi all, i'm on 12.04 and i'm trying to upgrade to 12.10 (aim is actually to get to 13.10 from there). When the GUI is display the progress info for step2 ("Setting new software channel") I get a crash. do-release-upgrade crashes and I get a dialog asking me whether I want to send an error report. This is getting frustrating. Any pointer ?22:04
caninNone will burn with bra or k3b22:04
ewi_complicated to explain... "firefox &" will run firefox and allow you to exit the terminal Shehrazad22:04
ShehrazadHow do I close the terminal without closing the program if I already opened a program.22:04
MonkeyDustShehrazad  run your program in screen22:05
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Dark_lightShehrazad: you can't22:05
MonkeyDust!info screen22:05
ubottuscreen (source: screen): terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-14ubuntu9 (raring), package size 584 kB, installed size 885 kB22:05
ShehrazadAs in after typing "firefox" into the terminal, how do I close terminal without closing firefox?22:05
SlartShehrazad: "exit" does some magic to make sure running programs keep running22:05
HisaoNakaiAhahaha, it worked. pastebin.com/TJuCF6Dp22:05
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ewi_Shehrazad: "firefox &"22:05
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SlartShehrazad: iirc there is a difference between typing exit and just closing gnome-terminal22:05
ShehrazadLike a "soft" close, Slart?22:06
caninbrasero turns my DVD into a coaster if I try burning the UDF images as soon as I start due to an undefined error, k3b at least refuses to burn it before it ruins a disk on me22:06
ShehrazadLet me test that Slart.22:06
MonkeyDustShehrazad  i'm running irssi in screen, if i should close my terminal, irssi would stay alive22:06
Dark_lightHisaoNakai: I said the output of lspci -k, the | grep part you should've omitted it, paste it again22:06
Dr_willisif you are using 'command &'  do NOT use the close button. ;)22:06
Dr_willisuse the exit command.22:06
Dr_willisages ago i would use the window manager tweaks to disable the close button on xterm windows.22:07
HisaoNakaioh god damn it. okay, I'll just run that22:07
ShehrazadNope, Slart.22:07
ShehrazadIt doesn't allow me to input new commands anyway.22:07
ShehrazadHence, no exit command that I know of.22:07
SlartShehrazad: what program are you trying to run?22:08
ShehrazadMonkeyDust, how did you start irssi in the first place then?22:08
ShehrazadTried it with gedit22:08
ShehrazadJust opened a terminal and typed a gedit.22:08
ewi_noted... exit22:08
SlartShehrazad: so you run    "gedit &" and then you should get a new prompt (or press enter to refresh it) then type exit22:08
ShehrazadSlart, you don't get it.22:08
ShehrazadI am trying to find a solution AFTER I don't use ampersand in the command.22:09
Dark_lightwell then there's no way to do it22:09
MonkeyDustShehrazad    screen -S FREENODE irssi22:09
SlartShehrazad: ahh.. and you really want to keep that program running22:09
Dark_lightyou can pause it with ctrl-z22:09
ewi_you could use an ascii code for the ampersand?22:09
ShehrazadYes.22:09
ShehrazadPause, hmm?22:09
Slartctrl Z then %1&  and then exit22:09
ShehrazadLemme try that as well.22:09
Dr_willisscreen should remain in thebackground if you use exit or close button.22:10
Dr_willisyou just reconnect to the screen session.22:10
SlartShehrazad: ctrl Z pauses the program, %1 & starts the paused program again but now with & and then we're on track again22:10
MonkeyDustShehrazad  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen22:10
Dr_willisor.. 'command &'   ctrl-z, then 'bg' if you want it to run in the background.22:10
Dr_willisthen 'fg' to reconnect.. but still. you dont want to close the terminal window.22:11
ShehrazadSlart, it returns "bash: bg: %1: no such job"22:11
Jordan_Ucanin: Try changing the extention to .bin and see if that avoids confusing these programs22:11
caninHow do I force erase a DVD with raw data on it? Stupid burning programs will not earse things unless it has a recognizable  FS on it...22:11
Dr_williscanin,  you do mean a DVD+RW ?22:12
SlartShehrazad: what does it print out when you press Ctrl-Z ? something like [1] Stopped    bla bla bla22:12
reisiocanin: might I suggest obtaining a USB stick22:12
Shehrazad"[1]+  Stopped                 gedit"22:12
Shehrazad^ this, Slart22:12
HisaoNakaihttps://mega.co.nz/#!mV4DhDwZ!HEEGqyQ80LAorVqvNw9YZnWomjxdXYGILXbIk0jDJJU Made the mistake of saving it to a file type not accessible to Windows, so here's a mega link to a text file containing the terminal paste.22:12
caninDr_willis: Ya I stopped using DVDs because the crappy software was making coasters on me so I tried an RW.... and wonderful nothing will let me erase it22:12
SlartShehrazad: and then you type    %1 &22:12
Dr_willisShehrazad,   just 'bg' should let gedit continue.   i belive22:13
SlartShehrazad: and you get that error you mentioned?22:13
ShehrazadAnd it returned an error.22:13
ShehrazadYes.22:13
ShehrazadBut will it let me close terminal Dr_willis?22:13
SlartShehrazad: try the 'bg' thingy Dr_willis suggested then.. I'm not sure what the problem might be with my way22:13
caninreisio: No USB support, only DVD images can be used... too big for CD22:13
Dr_williscanin,  i belive the 'cdrecord' command can do it.22:13
reisiogood times22:14
reisioif it's rw you could use dd22:14
Dr_willisI havent even used an optical disk in ages...22:14
ShehrazadOK, solved!22:14
ShehrazadI pressed ctrl+Z, typed bg and voila!22:14
reisioDr_willis: twss22:14
Dr_willisnot since Dual-Layer DVD's were like $1 a pop. ;)  i still got a 10 pack that i never was able to burn properly22:14
ShehrazadMany thanks to everyone who helped!22:14
MonkeyDustShehrazad  now type fg22:14
Dr_willisShehrazad,  fg brings it back to the terminal -->  bash job control fundamentals ---->    http://web.mit.edu/gnu/doc/html/features_5.html22:15
ShehrazadWhy is that MonkeyDust?22:15
Dr_willisexample ussage  'scp  file'    then ctrl-z, bg  to let it run in the background...22:15
Dr_willisthen 'fg' to bring it back front.22:16
Dr_willisback TO the front.  ;P22:16
wheatthinfront ground :P22:16
ShehrazadNoted.22:16
Dr_willisThis is covered in most decent bash guides under job controll. bash history is also a very handy feature to learn about22:16
ShehrazadHave a celebratory cat: http://i.imgur.com/L8OOT.jpg22:17
Dr_willisbut if you are really doing a lot of bash-work.. screen and tmux are worth learning22:17
* Dr_willis eats the cat.22:17
HisaoNakaiDark_light:: Hello?22:17
Draxelishi guys. my chrome keeps giving various crash messages. So, now I'm thinking about trying chromium browser instead. is it any good? it used to be slowly updated, has anything changed?22:18
kant_hi guys, is there a way to get default /etc/apt/sources.list back for a given distribution? I'm on 12.04 LTS22:18
Dark_lightHisaoNakai: holdon22:18
Dr_willis!find sources.list22:19
ubottuFile sources.list found in anjuta-common, apt, auto-upgrade-tester, blends-dev, cloud-init, crosshurd, debtags, di-netboot-assistant, fai-doc, fai-server (and 3 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=sources.list&mode=&suite=raring&arch=any22:19
kant_ubottu: thanks!22:19
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)22:19
Dr_willistheres a web site that can generate a new one kant_   - but i always back mine up :)22:20
reisiobacking up ftw22:20
reisioget thee to a backupery22:20
Shehrazad!botsnack22:21
ubottuYum! Err, I mean, APT!22:21
Dark_lightHisaoNakai: iwconfig ?22:21
reisio!botseppuku22:21
Draxelischrome vs chromium! Which one would you recommend?22:22
wheatthinchrome, as it's stable and gets the latest stable22:22
SlartDraxelis: try asking the channel, type !poll  =)22:22
reisiochromium, as this isn't Windows22:22
cjosephsongoogle chrome doesn't do anything when I click .wav files. I'd like them to play in the browser, like .mp3 and other media files. The main VLC player I have installed can play .wav fine.22:22
Draxelis!poll chrome vs chromium22:22
ubottuDraxelis: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:22
Draxelis:D22:22
Slart!poll | Draxelis22:23
ubottuDraxelis: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.22:23
wheatthinlol22:23
reisioubottu: 'cept there usually is :p22:23
SlartDraxelis: didn't know ubottu was going to act up =)22:23
wheatthinlet's just say chrome comes with flash built in22:23
reisioyou can probably have VLC play them as a plugin22:23
cjosephsonbut I have the VLC plugin installed22:23
wheatthin:)22:23
cjosephsonand it plays .mp322:23
cjosephsonbut nothing happens when I click on .wav files22:23
Draxelisdoes chromium support the same chrome extensions? do bookmarks, history, extensions etc etc sync well on chromium?22:24
Dark_lightDraxelis: yes22:24
HisaoNakaiYou've gotta be kidding me. I should have seen this coming...22:25
HisaoNakaiMy flash drive just died.22:25
Draxelisthe same flash performance on chrome and chromium?22:25
Dark_lightsome are not installed by default though, but can be used (pepper flash and the pdf plugin)22:25
cjosephsonthe pdf plugin in chromium has been a pain the past few times I tried it22:26
MonkeyDustDraxelis  they do22:26
kostkonDraxelis, if you want a better otb experience go with chrome, if you want more privacy go with chromium22:26
ThothCastelif If I create a standard user in linux and add her to the 'admin' group, will he automatically be added to the sudoers file? what are the limitations of this admin user?22:27
Draxelishm, ye I dont like what's  going on with the whole prism stuff22:27
Draxelisinstalling chromium via ubuntu software center is ok?22:27
Draxelisor should i download it via site?22:28
MonkeyDustpeople who are worried about their privacy, shouldnt use facebook and the lot22:28
Draxelisit's not that super worried but it just feels wrong22:28
Dr_willisgoogle chrome's deb from their site adds their PPA i belive22:29
DraxelisDr_willis,  so downloading chromium via ubuntu center is fine?22:29
lluadAnyone know how to fix the long delay at boot "waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration" bug in 12.04LTS?22:30
Dr_willisenabling their PPA will let you get it from the software center..22:30
OerHeksif you install solitairy packages trough websites, you won't get updates.22:30
HisaoNakairesult of iwconfig: http://pastebin.com/6YJtcFtV22:30
Draxeliswill it update when I check for ubuntu updates? Dr_willis22:30
Dr_willisunless the package adds its own ppa22:30
cjosephsonthe brower does nothing when I click on a .wav file. It doesn't even try to download it. I'd like it to play in-browser. Any suggestions?22:30
Dr_willisIF it adds a PPA =  YES Draxelis  thats whats special about google-chrome and a few other apps.22:30
icerootwill everything from proposed be part of the main/updates repos later? or are there packages which will be only on proposed all the time and not going to main/updates?22:30
vadiWhat does this mean: W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/archive/dists/precise-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages  406  Not Acceptable22:30
DraxelisDr_willis,  ye I know, but I'm talking about chromium and not chrome :)22:31
gordonjcpMonkeyDust: meh22:31
Dr_willisDraxelis,  chromium has a PPA and is avail in the default repos.. if you want the latest. use the ppa22:31
icerootvadi: An appropriate representation of the requested resource /pub/ubuntu/archive/dists/precise-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages could not be found on this server.22:31
Draxelisok will download it via ubuntu software center22:31
vadiSo the mirror broke?22:31
icerootvadi: the Packages file is missing, there is just the Packages.gz  to there is something wrong with the repo22:32
Draxelisis software on ubuntu center updated? or is it updated only with new ubuntu release?22:32
vadiShould I report that anywhere?22:32
MonkeyDusticeroot  the site is not or no longer valid    http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/archive/dists/precise-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages22:32
Dr_willis!precise22:32
ubottuUbuntu 12.04 LTS (Precise Pangolin) is the current !LTS release of Ubuntu.  Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/120422:32
gordonjcpMonkeyDust: I tend to view people who say things like "ZOMG I don't do facebook/twitter/online shopping/going outside because ZOMG MY PRIVACY!!1111111!!!!!!1!!" as being a bit like that woman you sometimes see wandering around town in the urine-stained velour pyjamas screaming "STOP STARING AT ME!" at the pigeons22:32
icerootvadi: report it to the maintainer of that repo (its not an official ubuntu repo and not supported here)22:32
Dark_lightHisaoNakai: sorry I have to go now,I'm sure someone will help you out ;)22:32
vadiYes, it is an official ubuntu repo...22:32
vadiI got it from selecting it in Ubuntus repo list.22:33
Dr_willisgordonjcp,  that was no woman.. that was my wife!22:33
icerootvadi: could you paste the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" please22:33
iceroot!paste | vadi22:33
ubottuvadi: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.22:33
wheatthinvadi, you can do that by pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list22:33
resizt0rHello, I am trying to get a drive to be shared on my network with samba22:34
wheatthin<-- is sporting pastebinit today :)22:34
iceroot!samba | resizt0r22:34
ubotturesizt0r: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.22:34
vadihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/5775486/22:34
icerootvadi: i cant imaging that are official ubuntu repos22:35
wheatthinunofficial ppa's :)22:35
cjosephsonTotem seems to have a bug in playing certain files that require authorization to listen to. This stinks...22:35
icerootvadi: they are named normally de.archive.ubuntu.com or us.archive.ubuntu.com or something like that22:35
Draxelisif Install flash via ubuntu center, will it work on chromium?22:35
wheatthinDraxelis, yup22:35
vadiOK, but Ubuntu included it22:35
icerootDraxelis: no22:35
HisaoNakaiSomeone else please help, I can't keep a connection to my WiFi. Here's iwconfig run: http://pastebin.com/6YJtcFtV and lspci -k: https://mega.co.nz/#!mV4DhDwZ!HEEGqyQ80LAorVqvNw9YZnWomjxdXYGILXbIk0jDJJU22:36
vadiand auto-selected it when I asked it to pick closest mirror22:36
icerootDraxelis: because chrome has it own flash player22:36
vadiOh well22:36
Draxelisi mean chormium not chrome22:36
Draxelis:D22:36
wheatthiniceroot, he wants to use chromium, it doesn't22:36
icerootwheatthin: i am sure chromium also has its own flashplayer but ok maybe i am wrong22:36
wheatthinnope22:36
Draxelisit doesnt look like chromium syncs with existing chrome extensions22:36
wheatthinDraxelis, flash isn't an extension, it's just built in22:37
wheatthinon chrome that is22:37
ewi_HisaoNakai: are you sure it's your wi-fi connection and not your gateway connection?22:37
DraxelisI know, that's was my other question/statement22:37
Draxelis:)22:37
HisaoNakaiEvery other computer connected to the gateway works, ewi_,22:38
ewi_create a new user HisaoNakai and see if the problem persists22:38
Draxelisare you sure that chromium syncs extensions that were installed on chrome?22:38
HeyMan7-CloudFlash works for chromium, you just need to use adobe's website. Not ubuntu software center22:38
wheatthinyup22:38
Pinkamena_Dwheatthin, yes I am talking about compiz22:39
HeyMan7-CloudIt does Draxelis22:39
wheatthinDraxelis, just gotta login, and might have to kick start it22:39
wheatthinPinkamena_D, then you'd be looking at ccsm or something like that22:39
DraxelisYe, all synced but extensions22:39
wheatthinDraxelis, they will, it just takes time22:39
Draxelisok cool22:39
Pinkamena_Dwhat do you mean?22:39
SuperLagHow do you work with glipper? I've got it installed, but I'm not sure how to start it or use it.22:40
Draxelisyes flash works22:40
Draxelisi installed via USC22:40
SuperLagIt'd be nice to be able to have multiple items on a clipboard and not have to continuously repeat copy/paste operations22:40
wheatthinPinkamena_D, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion22:40
Draxelisso far, chormium looks very good22:40
HisaoNakaiewi_: I"ve created a new account, going to test now. For all purposes and to make me look like even more of an otaku, it is named hakamichishizune.22:41
ewi_run glipper SuperLag and it should add an icon that shows your recent clipboard contents22:41
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Pinkamena_Dwell I already have the compiz and plugins22:42
Pinkamena_Dare you suggesting I install the fusion packages to fix the issue?22:42
wheatthinPinkamena_D, well it's a setting within int22:42
wheatthinit*22:42
Draxelisso, there's a new person looking after chromium, right?22:43
SuperLagewi_: ran glipper... now I see an icon, but when I copy items, I'm not seeing anything there22:43
Pinkamena_Dok, let me just copy and paste the issue, one second...22:43
Pinkamena_DHello, I had desktop cube working fine in 12.10, but I had to downgrade to 12.04 for other reasons. After reinstall I am getting that "flash" on rotation, and windows will not move from one workspace to another with the keyboard. I remember I fixed this before, but I forgot how.22:43
ewi_you clicked/right clicked on the icon SuperLag?22:43
wheatthinhttp://www.noobslab.com/2011/10/enable-compiz-desktop-cube-in-ubuntu.html, Pinkamena_D22:43
SuperLagewi_: multiple times22:44
wheatthinlike that?22:44
ewi_maybe need to adjust the settings to allow more than 0 clipboard contents?22:44
SuperLagewi_: Okay. Where do you access the settings for it?22:45
ewi_right click on it? i'm not sure22:45
SuperLagIt's not bringing any menus up, click or right-click. I get nothing.22:45
SuperLagewi_: I may have to log out or reboot. Unfortunately, I'm stuck in a position where I can't do that yet22:46
wheatthinSuperLag, you using gnome?22:46
wheatthinand are trying to access files on desktop?22:47
ewi_SuperLag: ctrl+alt+c does that do anything?22:47
davethefanhello22:47
Pinkamena_Dok, I just finished looking at that guide. It has all of the things I have done already22:47
resizt0rok so, im trying to edit a system file with konsole22:48
wheatthinPinkamena_D, as in the settings to enable the features itself?22:48
resizt0rand i type "su"22:48
resizt0rtype my pass, and it says authentication failure22:48
SuperLagwheatthin: in this case, yes. ewi_: that worked to bring up a menu. Clicking on the icon still doesn't do anything though.22:48
Pinkamena_Dthe flash itself is annoying but I can deal with it. The main problem is that the windows do not move from one workspace to another correctly22:48
ewi_and you have glipper 2.1 SuperLag?22:48
Pinkamena_Dwheatthin, Yes, first I did the compat-check, then installed the packages and put the settings the same way.22:49
Pinkamena_DWhat ticks me off is that it was working fine in 12.10.22:49
Pinkamena_DI also noticed that more plugins are available now, as if I have downloaded a lslightly diferent package then I had.22:50
HisaoNakaiOkay, I just played a full game of Solitaire and it hasn't dropped yet, I'm going to try to provoke it in my (gasp) using Firefox22:50
SuperLagewi_: 2.422:51
ewi_sounds promising HisaoNakai22:51
ewi_SuperLag: "sudo restart glipper"?22:52
HisaoNakaiewi_ Went to youtube, searched "vinesauce corruptions", and then I get a notification: "network_name" Disconnected.22:52
HisaoNakaiso no, another user account doesn't fix the problem.22:53
ewi_log into you wi-fi configuration and change the wi-fi channel HisaoNakai?22:54
HisaoNakaiTried that before and it didn't work.22:54
resizt0ri dont see why konsole will not let me use "su"22:56
SuperLagewi_: didn't help22:57
ewi_sudo su resizt0r22:57
SuperLagewi_: btw, that doesn't work. I just killed the PID for glipper22:57
Draxelisi like chromium. it auto-updates on ubuntu, but if one wanted to use chromium on win7, how to autoupdate?22:57
MrGrymReaperHi.22:57
Skymonthow do you reinstall a fresh copy of ubuntu on a dual boot system?22:58
ewi_use the live cd and choose the correct partition Skymont.22:58
Jordan_UDraxelis: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. Try #chromium or ##windows.22:58
MrGrymReaperAnyone know whether the Sony VGN-FS115B can be used on Ubuntu Desktop 10.04 LTS or higher?22:59
DraxelisJordan_U,  yea, I know. I dont need it now, but was wondering if anyone has a quick answer:)22:59
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{Oscarian-'aloha23:00
Skymontewi_ is there anything in particular i should pay attention to because last time i tried that i messed up both o/ses23:00
{Oscarian-just wondering, the default wm in ubuntu23:00
MrGrymReaperHey please does anyone know whether Sony VGN-FS115B can be used on Ubuntu Desktop 10.04 LTS or higher?23:00
{Oscarian-urgh23:00
{Oscarian-scuse me...\23:01
SuperLagMrGrymReaper: please don't repeat.23:01
Dr_willis{Oscarian-,  that would be 'unity'23:01
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Dr_williswhich uses Compiz as its window manager23:01
MrGrymReaperSorry. No seems to have answered the question.23:01
SuperLagMrGrymReaper: patience helps :)23:01
Jordan_U!patience | MrGrymReaper23:02
ubottuMrGrymReaper: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/23:02
{Oscarian-oh, thx...yes, unity has the default "minimise" "close" etc keys at the top left, i like the close button on the right\23:02
{Oscarian-how can i change that? :/23:02
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SuperLagMrGrymReaper: have you done a google search to see if someone else has used that model with Ubuntu?23:02
Dr_willis!controls23:02
ubottuStarting in Lucid, the minimize, maximize, and close buttons have been moved to the left side. For more information and workarounds, please see http://pad.lv/53263323:02
{Oscarian-ah, thx23:02
Dr_willis{Oscarian-,  most questions are also answered at askubuntu.com  ;)  (worth bookmarking the site)23:02
Dr_willisbest would be just to get used to where its at. since when you fullscreen windows, the controlls can move on you.23:03
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MrGrymReaper@SuperLag - They have but with a way out of date version. Need to be able to get updates and/or support if possible.23:04
ewi_skymont, you just have to know what you're looking at23:04
{Oscarian-thx willis :) haven't used linux in quite a while so it's just a matter of getting to know it all again for me :)23:04
SuperLagMrGrymReaper: I'd be very surprised if it didn't work.23:05
ewi_windows will be on an ntfs partition, you can share /home partitions if you have it that way in the first place.  just reformat the partition to use as / and point to swap, /home, and /ntfs with no formating Skymont23:05
SuperLagMrGrymReaper: that said, that's no guarantee that *everything* will work right out of the gate23:06
DraxelisIf there's new chromium release, when i check for ubuntu updates, will I be notified?23:06
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Skymontewi, last time i think there were tons of partitions, so i wasn't sure and it didn't install properly because ubuntu needed stuff on different partitions or something23:07
MrGrymReaper@SuperLag - I was trying with i386 version of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and i didn't even boot beyond the first splash screen. I'm going to download 10.04 LTS. I don't mind looking over scripts. But some general ideas of future certification of its hardware would help.23:07
ewi_i would say a minimum of 4 are needed for a dual boot system Skymont23:07
DraxelisIf there's new chromium release, when i check for ubuntu updates, will I be notified?23:08
Skymontewi_ is there a good ubuntu tutorial page for this?23:08
SuperLagMrGrymReaper: if you want a laptop for Linux where everything works, I'd go with a ThinkPad W530.23:08
ewi_i would say only if there is a PPA in your sources.list file Draxelis23:08
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Draxelisewi_,  i installed chromium via USC23:08
daWant to win some money while you are on your computer? https://coingeneration.com/auth/new/148807 registe and you can do it!!23:08
ewi_i'm sure there is Skymont23:09
OerHeksDraxelis, only if you installed it with softwarecenter23:09
DraxelisOerHeks,  Ye I did.23:09
MrGrymReaper@SuperLag - Unfortunately I currently only have access to a Sony Vaio.23:09
DraxelisOerHeks,  the chromium versions on USC aren't lagging behind much?23:09
Skymontlink? :)23:09
OerHeksCurrent is Version 25.0.1364.160 Ubuntu 13.04 (25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu3)23:10
ewi_...</href?><imgsrc_https://8.8.8.8>www.google.com</head>></html>23:11
SuperLagMrGrymReaper: well, it seems odd that you couldn't even get past the splash screen. I'd consider going with 13.04 and using the alternate install CD23:11
Draxelisok23:11
DraxelisI have the same23:11
* ewi_ has had good luck with alternate cd's23:12
SuperLagewi_: same here23:12
SuperLagewi_: I've also had very good luck with this ThinkPad W530. Nice machine. :)23:12
SuperLagTook a couple of PPA things to get one piece of hardware working. (Fingerprint reader)23:13
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pokkerfacehi anyone with good knowledge of networks?23:16
Dr_willispokkerface,  you may want to ask a more specific question. there is #networking also23:16
Skymontewi_, was that link you posted for someone?23:16
pokkerfacei have my xbox connected to my ubuntu machine through ethernet , i am not getting access to internet23:16
pokkerfacewith my xbox23:17
Dr_willis!ics | pokkerface23:17
ubottupokkerface: If you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing23:17
Dr_willisand you may need a crossover cable, or a hub.23:17
ewi_you'lol have to dig for that one by your self Skymont. ubuntu partitioning23:17
pokkerfaceDr_willis, yes i already have the cable23:18
resizt0raww man23:18
resizt0ri tried sharing a usb drive on the network and now it give some error saying it is already mounted and cannot mount the share23:19
Dr_willisi find it often easier to share all of /media/    resizt0r , or mount removeable devices by hand and not let them automount23:20
resizt0rso the drive is /media/Backup23:20
resizt0rwhat would i do to make this work23:20
Dr_williswhat filesystem is the drive?23:20
resizt0rntfs23:21
Dr_willisyou may need to mount it with ntfs-3g and the proper options to allow all users full access. or let the ntfs-config tool make a /etc/fstab entry for it23:21
MrGrymReaper@SuperLag - The 13.04 version unfortunately isn't a LTS release and has a very short support lifecycle. It means it will not receive updates for a sufficiently long period of time unlike LTS releases.23:21
resizt0r/Backup/backup /media/Backup cifs guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8  0  023:21
resizt0rthis is what i currently added, hoping it would show up as Backup on the network23:21
resizt0rer, //Backup/backup23:22
ewi_"sudo umount /path/where/Backup/is/mounted && mount /media /mnt"'23:22
Dr_willisresizt0r,  you are defining a 'share' thats differnt then a fstab entry... so somthing is confused here.23:22
Dr_williswhat OS is shareing the ntfs-usb drive?23:23
resizt0rthis one23:23
resizt0rkubuntu 13.0423:23
Draxeliswhy libre office isnt updated via regular ubuntu updates?23:23
Dr_willisso whats your smb.conf look like thats making the share resizt0r ?23:23
resizt0ri dunno where to find that23:24
resizt0ri just added what i showed you in fstab23:24
Dr_willisa fstab entry does NOT make a share.. so how are you shareing it?23:24
Dr_willisyour fstab entry would be to MOUNT a remote share to the local box.23:24
resizt0ri guess im not sharing it23:24
Dr_willisBingo. ;)23:24
Dr_willisyou Mount it somewhere, like /media/backups   then share /media/backups23:25
resizt0rshouldnt it be like a 5 step process? something simple?23:25
resizt0rcurrently it is mounted as /media/Backup23:25
Dr_willisthe fact its a NTFS adds a layer of complecation23:25
Dr_willisif the user has full rights to it.. try right clicking on the folder and shareing it23:25
resizt0rsee, i was hoping it'd be as easy as right clicking, go to sharing tab, select to share the drive with the checkbox23:25
resizt0rwhich is how it should work23:26
Dr_willisif you want a more perment share. you will want to make a smb.conf entry for it23:26
resizt0rif things were logical23:26
resizt0ri want it permanant23:26
Dr_willisresizt0r,  what if you dident have a GUI desktop? whats logical then?23:26
resizt0ri would reformat23:26
resizt0rto a gui desktop23:26
resizt0rthat would be logical23:26
Dr_willissamba shares are normally defined in smb.conf     the whole 'user made shares' is a relatively new feature of Linux23:26
resizt0rok so23:26
resizt0ri need to find smb.conf23:26
Dr_willisso i have no idea why you have that fstab entry.23:27
resizt0rand put what23:27
resizt0r"share my damn drive.now"23:27
resizt0rwell in the guide in the first link23:27
resizt0rshare samba23:27
wheatthinsamba shares can be mounted in fstab23:27
Dr_williswheatthin,  hes defining a share in the fstab...23:27
Dr_willisor tryign to.23:27
Dr_willissee where 'mount' says its mounted to23:28
resizt0rmount23:28
resizt0rwhere is that23:28
resizt0ris that a program23:28
Dr_willisthats a command you type23:28
nommanichi23:28
Dr_willisYou may have a bit of learning to do i think resizt0r23:28
resizt0ri just need my drive shared23:29
resizt0rlearning can come later23:29
Dr_willisresizt0r,  you also said you needed it permently.. that adds more compelxity23:29
resizt0rthe networking difficulties are the main reason i havent fully dedicated myself to linux as of yet23:29
Dr_willissimple case..  reboot.. plug it in, access it..  right click on the folder it is, and select share.23:29
resizt0rive done that23:29
resizt0rten times over23:29
Dr_willisie: /media/yourusername/whatever23:29
resizt0rit doesnt show up in windows23:30
ewi_lulz23:30
h00kSo, I set up the Twitter permissions, and I just got a notification that someone responded to a tweet, but I can't...like...see any Twitter client installed. Any protips?23:30
wheatthinin windows you have to map a network drive23:30
Dr_willisresizt0r,  you did make it a GUEST share?23:30
resizt0revery single time i do that i open the share tab and all the settings are erased23:30
resizt0ras if i never set them at all23:30
Dr_willisyou do not 'have' to map it as a network drive.23:30
resizt0ri tried it with user/pass23:30
resizt0rand guess23:30
wheatthinin order to keep remounting it under windows23:30
resizt0rguest*23:30
ewi_you need to open your file manager with sudo?23:30
resizt0rand with no users defined at all23:30
Dr_willisresizt0r,  as a test  make a folder in your HOME and try shareing it.. to see if samba is in fact working23:30
Dr_willisresizt0r,  your user has a seperate 'samba' password that can be differnt then their login password. you can set it via 'sudo smbpasswd username'   i norally set mine to be the same as my login password.23:31
resizt0rok i shared it23:31
MonkWitDaFunkHi users of ubuntu channel, how do i use my keyboard to guarantee a proper shut.down?23:32
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resizt0rnow i'll have to go to the next room to see if its anywhere in the network from the windows laptop23:32
resizt0rbrb23:32
kant_12.04 trying to upgrade to 12.10. I keep getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5775592/ . Any idea?23:32
Dr_willisresizt0r,  it can take windows some time to see the new shares also.23:32
wheatthinDr_willis, it's faster by adding a network drive in windows23:33
wheatthinthat way you don't have to wait for netbios to recognize it23:34
resizt0rok23:34
fbiondipIs it good idea changing kernel 3.8 to 3.9 in 13.04?23:34
resizt0ri made a folder called share in my home dir, shared with samba, and it works fantastically23:34
resizt0rnow if i could just share my backup drive, i'd be set23:34
MonkWitDaFunkFbiondip, you can change it but the old kernel may still be on your filesystem23:35
Dr_willisresizt0r,  i would remove that wrong fstab entry you have.  for starters23:35
resizt0ralright23:35
ewi_filemanager needs super user23:35
ewi_can't change attributes on an admin mount without sudo resizt0r23:36
Dr_willisi would also then unmount the flash drive (via the file manager if you can)  and  then  install/run ntfs-config to let it auto-make a fstab entry for it.23:36
Dr_willisewi_,  so use gksudo to run your file manager.23:36
Dr_willisewi_,  but be carefull with it.23:36
resizt0rok23:36
resizt0rerased the entry in fstab23:37
resizt0rusing VIM23:37
StaticLNXcan someone give me a hand with a network problem? http://pastebin.com/RDRFjium23:37
Dr_willisand you dont really change mountpoint permissions on NTFS,  via the file manager23:37
fbiondipMonkWitDaFunk is there any problem the old kernels  still stay in the fs?23:37
Dr_willis!info ntfs-config23:37
ubottuntfs-config (source: ntfs-config): Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-10 (raring), package size 95 kB, installed size 776 kB (Only available for linux-any)23:37
ewi_can share with samba through nautilus right?23:37
wheatthinStaticLNX, what are you trying to do?23:37
resizt0ri have dolphin23:38
resizt0rand samba23:38
MonkWitDaFunkFbiondip, no.23:38
wheatthinStaticLNX, You'll need to fix network23:38
MonkWitDaFunkUnless you dont have enough free space23:38
Dr_willisewi_,  the fact its a NTFS on a removeable flash - adds complexity to the issue23:38
StaticLNXI cant get it to start23:39
resizt0rits not flash23:39
resizt0rits a desktop hard drive23:39
Dr_willisresizt0r,  internal to the pc? or removeable?23:39
resizt0r2TB23:39
MonkWitDaFunkIs there any way to use my keyboard to guarantee a proper shut down?23:39
resizt0rremovable usb3.023:39
Dr_willisso as far as the system cares.. its the same as a flash drive.23:39
Dr_willisits removeable, so it gets auto mounted on access. unless you make a fstab entry23:40
StaticLNXwheatthin, fix network? huh?23:40
resizt0rso what's wrong with making an entry?23:40
resizt0ri'll make 20 entries if i have to to get it to work23:40
Dr_willisresizt0r,  thats what 'ntfs-config' does..     it makes a fstab entry for you....23:40
usr13StaticLNX: What is broken?23:40
resizt0rwhat do i type23:40
usr13StaticLNX: (Exlpain  your situation in more detail.)23:41
Dr_willisresizt0r,  install and run 'ntfs-config'23:41
Dr_willisunless you want to read up on the nfts-3g guides/wiki page and add an entry by hand.23:41
ewi_StaticLNX: what's the issue?23:41
fbiondipI have an extra 70 Gb Sata installed ,so i think there should'nt be pace problms.the thing is since i iupgradede  i feel the laptop clumsier23:42
StaticLNXmy nic isnt getting the static ip I setup in /etc/network/interfaces23:42
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resizt0rok23:42
ewi_ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.1023:43
resizt0rall write support is activated23:43
Dr_willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/105473/samba-network-sharing-ntfs-drives-and-root-permissions-from-local-drives          has some example fstab entries.23:43
resizt0ri used ntfs-config23:43
resizt0rthe deed is done23:43
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usr13StaticLNX: Are you running nm-applet?23:43
Dr_willislook at the /etc/fstab now and see what changes it made.23:43
ziggypopfy th3worldisyours23:43
usr13StaticLNX: Is this a server?  Or is it a desktop PC?23:43
Dr_willisshould be a  line with 'ntfs-3g' in it.23:43
resizt0rUUID=02C46346C4633AD5/media/Backupntfs-3gdefaults,nosuid,nodev,locale=en_US.UTF-80023:44
Dr_willisthe system will expect that USB to be plugged in when the system boots from now on.23:44
resizt0rthat's fine, it always is23:45
resizt0rit's a permanent fixture23:45
ewi_what happens if it's not plugged in23:45
wheatthinDr_willis, so add the usb to fstab23:45
ewi_lag on boot?23:45
Dr_williswheatthin,  you seem to be lagged... we allready did.. ;)23:45
StaticLNXusr13, not running nmapplet and its a server23:45
Dr_willisewi_,  it will print a message about it and you will need to hit a key23:45
resizt0rso now can i just right click > sharing > and select the box to share?23:45
usr13StaticLNX: If you want eth0 to use dhcp, change that protion of the file, Line 1) auto eth0 Line 2)  iface eth0 inet dhcp23:45
Dr_willisresizt0r,  check 'mount' command and see if its mounted somwehere else.. or just reboot and let it auto mount to test that it does mount properly23:46
StaticLNXstatic ip23:46
Dr_willisresizt0r,  you  might want to double check that /media/Backup does exist befor you reboot23:46
acerjest tu tos23:47
resizt0rit is mounted23:47
acerktos23:47
Dr_willisresizt0r,  mounted where?23:47
resizt0rim sure it exists23:47
StaticLNXstatic ip with a classless ip of 10.0.0.10 and subnet of 255.255.255.023:47
resizt0r/dev/sdf1 on /media/Backup type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)23:47
resizt0rthat is from 'mount'23:48
Dr_willisresizt0r,  that may be the OLD mount entry.    the options seem different.23:48
acerjakis polak??23:48
resizt0rbrb23:48
resizt0rreboot23:48
SonikkuAmerica!po | acer23:49
SonikkuAmerica!pl | acer23:49
ubottuacer: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.23:49
acerok dzieki23:49
usr13StaticLNX: Yes I see that's what you have now. Maybe you just need to restart the network.  sudo service networking restart23:51
resizt0rlooks like it mounted itself fine23:52
usr13StaticLNX: Does that work for you?23:52
StaticLNXno =\23:52
usr13StaticLNX: sudo ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.10 ; sudo route add default gw 10.0.0.123:53
usr13StaticLNX: The above command should [temporarily] get your interface to do what you want it to do.  Right?23:55
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usr13StaticLNX: service networking start   #Is the command to activate it as per the config file /etc/network/interfaces23:57
StaticLNXok23:57
StaticLNXsec23:57
fwilsonhello23:58
fwilsoni'm having trouble installing anything23:58
asterismodoes anyone knows what set of applications are currently available in ubuntu tablet development release? like mail client, music and video player, browser?23:58
fwilsoni get the error  files list file for package `fake-hwclock' contains empty filename23:58
usr13StaticLNX: ls -l /etc/init.d/networking   #Do you see  -rwxr-xr-x  ?23:58
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wheatthinasterismo, assuming you're looking for an ARM architecture23:58
StaticLNXservice networking start returned networking stop/waiting23:58
asterismoyes23:58
wheatthinasterismo, so google search ubuntu arm23:59
arooni-mobiledoes editing /etc/anacrontab .... execute in sudo mode?  if not; how can i run something thru anacrontab in sudo (i need to turn off some networking stuff daily)23:59
kostkonasterismo, you could start with the core apps https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps23:59
StaticLNX-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2797 Feb 13  2012 /etc/init.d/networking23:59
usr13StaticLNX: sudo service networking start    #*sudo*23:59
asterismowheatthin, yes, but everybody is saying that is "preview content" what is shipped in ubuntu touch23:59

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