[00:02] <Deformative> Hi, I am diskless booting ubuntu and would like the nodes to get their hostname from the dns.
[00:02] <Deformative> How do I configure this?
[00:03] <daftykins> are you running your own DNS server?
[00:04] <Deformative> daftykins: Yes.
[00:06] <mojtaba> valroadie: thank you very much for your help
[00:10] <valroadie> np mojtaba ;) glad to help
[00:10] <Deformative> Anyone?
[00:13] <daftykins> Deformative: seems relevant: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1814151
[00:23] <benzrf> hey! if I steal my parents' .wine-browser directory (data dir for netflix-desktop), is it possible for me to use it to log into their netflix account?
[00:24] <benzrf> :p
[00:24] <Deformative> Didn't work. =/
[00:31] <neibors> Hi  all
[00:31] <neibors> I'm installed ubuntu studio 12.04. What the password for root?
[00:32] <goyan124> hello
[00:33] <veryhappy> hey guys where do i have to go with jackd?
[00:33] <reisio> veryhappy: hrmm?
[00:34] <goyan124> how do i install windows xp iso from ubuntu. unetbootin doesn't work
[00:34] <daftykins> neibors: root doesn't have a password
[00:34] <daftykins> goyan124: write it to a CD/DVD
[00:34] <veryhappy> reisio: i mean when i have problem with the audio server jackd where do i have to go?
[00:34] <goyan124> daftykins i don't have cd
[00:34] <goyan124> or disk drive
[00:34] <reisio> veryhappy: you could start here
[00:35] <neibors> rly? Hmm...
[00:35] <reisio> veryhappy: or send /msg alis list *jack* and look for the highest number
[00:35] <reisio> (which is #jack)
[00:35] <daftykins> goyan124: got a flash drive spare?
[00:35] <goyan124> daftykins yes i have usb cards
[00:35] <veryhappy> reisio: ok thank you, i'll first start here
[00:35] <goyan124> daftykins flash drive
[00:36] <reisio> veryhappy: you can also find the website for the project, and search it like so: http://www.google.com/search?q="irc" site%3Ajackaudio.org
[00:36] <daftykins> goyan124: actually you're not going to be able to do it unless you have a windows system to prepare the flash drive in the first place. you either need to write a CD or use a windows system, you can't install it from ubuntu
[00:36] <veryhappy> reisio: yea thanks dude, i wanna try here first
[00:36] <veryhappy> ;)
[00:36] <benzrf> daftykins: that's BS
[00:36] <reisio> well, all roads point to #jack
[00:36] <reisio> this time
[00:36] <benzrf> there are plenty of utilites that work on buntu
[00:36] <reisio> but perhaps not the next :)
[00:37] <goyan124> daftykins what program to use for xp iso to install in a fash drive?
[00:37] <goyan124> flash*
[00:37] <veryhappy> it's really hard for me to get jackd running how it is supposed to work but when i have to stop jackd i don't get it running anymore that good how can i completely get a process to stop completely when i need to restart it
[00:37] <neibors> I try enter in root without password- Error(password)
[00:37] <daftykins> benzrf: you're familiar with how XP installs yes? after copying files it needs to know the original mountpoint to see the flash drive as the install media again. this usually requires much scripting
[00:37] <goyan124> in windowA
[00:37] <goyan124> s
[00:37] <reisio> goyan124: http://serverfault.com/questions/6714/how-to-make-windows-7-usb-flash-install-media-from-linux#answer-167060
[00:37] <reisio> more reliable than any other approach, IME
[00:37] <daftykins> yeah that's 7, not XP
[00:38] <daftykins> not the same thing _at all_
[00:38] <jrib> !root | neibors
[00:38] <reisio> well, they're both Windows, so yes at all :p
[00:38] <goyan124> i need for xp
[00:38] <reisio> goyan124: try it
[00:38] <daftykins> i just explained why it won't work.
[00:38] <reisio> goyan124: and if it doesn't work talk to #windows, since it's a Windows problem you have
[00:38] <nvzn> anyone else having a hell of a time with recent 12.06 kernels?
[00:38] <reisio> daftykins: nope, you merely said it wasn't the same thing
[00:38] <nvzn> anyone else having a hell of a time with recent 12.04 kernels?
[00:38] <reisio> can't even remember what you said? :p
[00:38] <daftykins> reisio: before that
[00:38] <reisio> nvzn: probably, what's up?
[00:38] <reisio> daftykins: before that I hadn't mentioned it
[00:39] <daftykins> reisio: yeah but the same statements apply
[00:39] <nvzn> reisio: they don't boot for me
[00:39] <reisio> how could they :p
[00:39] <reisio> nvzn: probably avoid using them, then
[00:39] <daftykins> reisio: ugh. you are quite clearly not experienced enough on this topic. i shall leave you to your trolling sir.
[00:39] <nvzn> well, i'd like to figure out what's going on
[00:39] <reisio> daftykins: righto
[00:39] <reisio> nvzn: what happens?
[00:40] <nvzn> i get a stack trace
[00:40] <nvzn> i'll u/l it and link it so you can see
[00:40] <nvzn> 1 min
[00:40] <neibors> It works!
[00:40] <reisio> neibors: gj
[00:43] <Mike9863> Once I change .fonts.conf, how can I get the settings to take effect?
[00:45] <subone_> exit
[00:45] <valroadie> Mike9863: 3 options, restart the program, log out then back in or restart completely...
[00:46] <nvzn> reisio: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19500951/20130616_191916.jpg
[00:46] <reisio> nvzn: heheh
[00:46] <reisio> nvzn: was that a hard photo to get?
[00:47] <nvzn> not so bad
[00:47] <nvzn> it takes a while
[00:47] <nvzn> a few seconds
[00:47] <ripplebit> guys tor isn't working, any ideas?
[00:47] <valroadie> nvzn: do you have a grub installed?
[00:47] <nvzn> ya
[00:47] <reisio> ripplebit: fix it
[00:48] <nvzn> i notice grub changed
[00:48] <valroadie> Nvzn: ok well does it boot if you revert to previous kernals?
[00:48] <nvzn> yes
[00:48] <nvzn> 3.2.0-41-generic
[00:48] <HelloWorld321> ripplebit: is there an entry in the error log?
[00:48] <nvzn> is what i currently run
[00:49] <valroadie> alright well I would recommend just reverting back as the newer kernals aren't too dramatic of a change
[00:49] <nvzn> well thats what i've dont
[00:49] <nvzn> well thats what i've done
[00:49] <nvzn> but i want to know why
[00:49] <nvzn> maybe i can update something
[00:49] <valroadie> idk..compatibility? random bug? could be a number of things...
[00:50] <valroadie> you could always make a forum thread and post up some info and see if anyone has ideas
[00:50] <nvzn> yeah
[00:50] <nvzn> i should
[00:50] <nvzn> bug report
[00:50] <budtuba> Well, I just logged on.  My son (the computer expert) was conversing with start before, but we still haven't got my sound system working.  Now after rebooting I cannot start Pulse
[00:50] <valroadie> ;)
[00:50] <ripplebit> guys tor ins't working, how can i fix it?
[00:50] <budtuba> audio ...fatal errro.
[00:50] <valroadie> ripplebit: uninstall reinstall
[00:50] <ripplebit> tried that
[00:50] <budtuba> An ideas what could have happened?
[00:51] <valroadie> ripplebit: have you changed anything recently? if not then I have no idea...I don't use proxies ;)
[00:51] <truedeity> anyone got a decent copy of man of steel?
[00:51] <ripplebit> not that i can remember
[00:51] <valroadie> ripplebit: could be your ISP
[00:52] <valroadie> I know some of them reject tor
[00:52] <ripplebit> how could they block it?
[00:52] <Dr_willis> also you could clarify whats 'not working' about it.. and check its logs, and enable verbose logging.
[00:52] <byc> compiled wireshark 1.10.0 looks weired in Ubuntu 12.04 http://ntu.me/di/PK18/2013-06-16.png
[00:52] <budtuba> anybody:  I need help with my sound system.  PulseAudio cannot be started...fatal error.
[00:53] <valroadie> riplebit: no idea but they control the flow in and out so..they must have tabs on it...im sure if they can scold you for torrenting then they can figure out tor ;)
[00:53] <Dr_willis> You really dont want to use Torrents With TOR.
[00:53] <ripplebit> i dont want it for torrenting
[00:54] <ripplebit> or doing anything illegal or whatever. just want a way of protecting my privacy
[00:54] <byc> any ideas for my problem?
[00:54] <Dr_willis> ripplebit,  Tor is a little overrated in 'privacy' protection..
[00:54] <truedeity> whatever happened to the distro days of irc?
[00:54] <valroadie> not saying anyone is torrenting, I am saying if your ISP knows when people are torrenting then I am sure they could figure out peole who use tor
[00:55] <ripplebit> what is the alternative to tor then?
[00:55] <Dr_willis> truedeity,  other IRC networks have shareing channels. Not freenode
[00:55] <valroadie> budtuba: Try here maybe? I do not know a lot about the audio aspect of ubuntu http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/
[00:55] <k1l> !warez | truedeity
[00:55] <Dr_willis> ripplebit,  a vpn, or proxy
[00:55] <truedeity> whats the best warez server/chan then?
[00:55] <yeats> byc: 1) your link doesn't work for me 2) why not install from the repo
[00:55] <budtuba> Guru:  I like your name...you know anything about sound not working?
[00:55] <ripplebit> i've been looking, but i cant find any free linux vpns
[00:55] <k1l> truedeity: stop asking here
[00:55] <Dr_willis> truedeity,  no idea.. thats not really ubuntu support related..
[00:55] <Charmlet> truedeity: None. Freenode has policies against warez.
[00:55] <Dr_willis> ripplebit,  ive seen them for as low as $5 a month.
[00:56] <Dr_willis> ripplebit,  with $10 mo 'credit' with special cupon codes
[00:56] <truedeity> its too bad
[00:56] <pong> why would a home user need a vpn?
[00:56] <Dr_willis> pong,  I ran a znc server on it for my IRC ussage.
[00:57] <Dr_willis> and could also set up my own vpn.
[00:57] <Dr_willis> so i can get to my stuff from my phone.
[00:57] <Dr_willis> the idea of a 'home' user is somewhat 'broad'
[00:57] <pong> Dr_WIllis, for privacy reasons?
[00:57] <Dr_willis> pong,  thats one reason
[00:57] <Charmlet> So, I have an actual question!
[00:58] <Charmlet> I created a bootable USB with the latest ubuntu 64bit on it.
[00:58] <Charmlet> and every time I load it, it asks to try/install. How do I get it to just be bootable without try/install?
[00:58] <pong> isn't it just switching ips from isp to vpn service?
[00:58] <daftykins> Charmlet: you needed to create the flash drive with 'persistence'
[00:58] <Charmlet> I used the pendrivelinux thing
[00:58] <Charmlet> and made the persistance about 3.5 gb >.>
[00:59] <yeats> !pm | byc
[00:59] <byc> yeats:1)is there any pastebin avaliable for you guys 2)the same problem with the one in the repo
[00:59] <k1l> !paste | byc
[01:00] <Charmlet> daftykins: and there's a 3,600 MB "casper-rw" thing on the drive
[01:01] <Charmlet> daftykins: do I just keep pressing try each time I use it?
[01:01] <Dr_willis> Charmlet,  you can do a 'full' normal install to a usb flash if you wanted.. or this sort of old guide suggests removeing the 'ubiquity' package
[01:02] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/7429/remove-welcome-screen-from-live-usb
[01:02] <daftykins> Charmlet: i sort of expected it to not show the menu anymore when done right, not sure
[01:02] <Charmlet> So the pendrivelinux wasn't the right install?
[01:02] <Charmlet> I probably screwed up somewhere.
[01:03] <Dr_willis> Charmlet,  depends on what you want.
[01:03] <Charmlet> I want it to be bootable and useable from the USB
[01:03] <Charmlet> but not for super intensive stuff, or anything installed.
[01:03] <Dr_willis> you CAN do a FULL normal install to usb flash.. that URL posted says you shouldent.. but the guy gives very little reason why.. and ive ran such a setup for Months and months
[01:04] <Dr_willis> OR you can use a Live-usb setup. but thats more for testing/light ussage
[01:04] <Charmlet> so how do I do the full install? full disclosure - it's an 8 gb HD, i'd run it on 4GB of ram, and I have no CD drive.
[01:04] <Dr_willis> and the guide suggest removeing the 'ubiquity' package from a live-usb install will disable that screen
[01:04] <Dr_willis> Install to USB same as you would a internal HD.  partion, put grub on its mbr and so forth
[01:04] <Dr_willis> but 8gb is a little small.
[01:05] <Deformative> Hi, I am running a bunch of diskless machines.  For some reason if I boot them all up at hte same time, about half of htem fail to mount the nfs root.  But if I turn them on one at a time, it succeeds.
[01:05] <Charmlet> little small as in it won't work, or I won't be able to install anything at all?
[01:05] <Deformative> Anyone have any ideas?
[01:05] <Charmlet> all I'd need to install is chrome pretty much.
[01:06] <reisio> Deformative: network saturation / timeouts?
[01:06] <reisio> Deformative: ask #nfs
[01:07] <Deformative> reisio: Ok, thanks.
[01:07] <reisio> sticking a tube in your mouth is what digital music is all about
[01:07] <reisio> whoops, wrong chan
[01:07] <Dr_willis> Charmlet,  then TRY what that guide suggested.. remove the Ubiquity package via  the apt-get command it says. it might disable that screen.. or just keep clicking try...
[01:08] <Charmlet> Dr_willis: I'll try to do that. Thanks :)
[01:17] <greyhats> holaa
[01:17] <daftykins> hi
[01:18] <Skymont> so what is best or most popular native games for linux, if this is offtopic please tell me the games in ##gaming thanks
[01:19] <Dr_willis> steam has just been released for linux.ubuntu a month or 2 ago. :0
[01:19] <Kow> wesnoth
[01:19] <Dr_willis> so  'best' would have to go to the various HalfLife games I imagine
[01:19] <Dr_willis> best Open Sourced - depends on the kind of games you want
[01:20] <Skymont> have you hear od xonotic?
[01:20] <reisio> Skymont: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humble_Bundle
[01:20] <Skymont> have you heard of xonotic?
[01:20] <reisio> nope
[01:20] <reisio> warsow is another FPS
[01:21] <reisio> Skymont: search your package manager for 'FPS' if that's what you want
[01:22] <javier__2> hi! someone can tell me if sending to trash and deleting a picture in shotwell with indeed delete it from my hardrive or just from the collection? Thanks!
[01:22] <ner0x> Any well know bluetooth adapters that are PCI? Or whatever the onboard card type are these days?
[01:24] <daftykins> ner0x: they tend to sell them as USB dongles alone
[01:25] <Dr_willis> I think theres  a few laptop wifi cards with bluetooth built in.. but neverreally looked at them
[01:25] <reisio> yeah it'll be a lot easier to find usb
[01:25] <Dr_willis> BT  - would be so handy.. if it worked better/faster/easier... ;P
[01:26] <ner0x> daftykins: dongles?
[01:26] <daftykins> yep.
[01:27] <ner0x> What is a dongle? lol
[01:27] <Dr_willis> http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dongle
[01:27] <Dr_willis> (computer hardware) Any small device which plugs into an electronic device, typically a computer, and alters its functionality. Common examples include wireless modems, software copy protect devices, and adapters. Some USB keyboards and mice include USB to PS/2 adapter dongles, enabling their use on machines with PS/2 ports.
[01:31] <codezombie> In my boot script I have a command listed called "console". This should call us a tmux instance, but for some reason the console command is being run at start up. https://gist.github.com/gitt/3a8ebc64bb6f412acb64 - question is, what would be causing that? This isn't my first boot script I've written, however it is the first time I've had this happen.
[01:33] <tehTerminator> join #ubuntu
[01:37] <codezombie> nvm, had backticks in an echo statement... *facepalm*
[01:39] <ner0x> Dr_willis: What a terrible name for a piece of hardware.
[01:40] <Tex_Nick> Dr_willis : i was chatting with someone bout a month ago who was using a rasberry pi with ubuntu ... was that you ?
[01:42] <Dr_willis> Tex_Nick,  Likely. :) not much to chat about.. since ubuntu isent ported to the Pi.
[01:44] <makuto> When you lose control of the desktop to a fullscreen application, what do you do? I've ctrl alt f1ed out and rebooted, but there must be a better way
[01:44] <Dr_willis> makuto,  just kill the app from the console.
[01:44] <Dr_willis> or if you can get a alt-f2 run dialog, use xkill
[01:45] <makuto> How do I get back to the desktop?
[01:45] <kostkon> ctrl alt f7
[01:45] <makuto> Ah, thanks!
[01:45] <Dr_willis> and instead of rebooting. you can 'sudo service lightdm restart'  to restart  the X server. ;)
[01:45] <Dr_willis> what app are you loseing controll in?
[01:46] <makuto> Some Wine apps don't behave properly
[01:46] <Dr_willis> cant say ive ever noticed any i couldent alt-tab out of...
[01:46] <Dr_willis> or use the alt-f2 xkill trick
[01:47] <Dr_willis> Unless they just totally crash the X server. ;)
[01:47] <kostkon> makuto, you can "confine" them in a window if you want by setting a virtual desktopf for them in wincfg
[01:47] <kostkon> winecfg*
[01:47] <Dr_willis> Thats always a handy feature in wine also. ;)
[01:47] <Dr_willis> had to do that with some MMORPG games over the years.
[01:47] <Tex_Nick> Dr_willis : ok thanks i was thinking about building an inexpensive box mounted to the back of a monitor with vesa mount for the grandkids ... using the pi & ubuntu ... thought there was now an unofficial ubuntu port ... thanks for feedback ;-)
[01:48] <Dr_willis> Tex_Nick,  if theres any ubuntu for the pi.. i dont know of it.
[01:48] <Dr_willis> Tex_Nick,  There is a Plex Client For the Pi now. that makes it a very nice  HTPC/DLNA player - if you want to run a plex server. :)
[01:48] <makuto> Thank you very much!
[01:49] <Dr_willis> http://rasplex.com/  even has a case (in the works) with Vesa mount brackets
[01:50] <Tex_Nick> Dr_willis : if you haven't heard of it ... it probably doesn't exist !!! ;-) hmmmmm i'll look into plex ... thank yo sir
[01:51] <Dr_willis> One of Plex's neatest features..  'plex channels' where (not totally reliable) your PC can stream  sites like AmazonPrime, Netflix, Hulu, and other flash sites.. to your pi via the pc.
[01:53] <daftykins> why plex over XBMC?
[01:54] <Dr_willis> plex uses a 'server client' model. where the PI (or other devices) just need the plex client
[01:54] <Tex_Nick> Dr_willis : yeah looking at plex now ... hey thanks for the feedback sir ^5
[01:54] <primepie> anyone knows a ppa to install libc++ from ?
[01:54] <Dr_willis> the plex server (a normal pc) handles all the hard stuff.
[01:55] <Dr_willis> I have the Plex Channel on my  Roku, my Pi,  and my Smart TV. they all 3 can play the files from my plex server with the exact same interface.
[01:55] <redrocket> same here
[01:55] <Dr_willis> Plex app for android exists also. but its like $5
[01:55] <redrocket> plex works very well with roku
[01:55] <Dr_willis> The plex 'service' they sell -  lets you access the files over the internet.
[01:55] <Dr_willis> but i dont do that.
[01:56] <Dr_willis> I grabbed some 3rd party Media player the other day with a built in HD  - it dosent have  the usefull channels the Roku does. ;(
[01:57] <gavilan2> Does linux uses a swap drive or something like virtual memory by default? I'm running it on an SSD, so I don't want to have any such things that make a lot of writes to the SSD
[01:57] <daftykins> yeah it create a swap partition usually
[01:57] <Dr_willis> if it even uses the swap at all. ;)
[01:57] <daftykins> if you manually partition and avoid making one, or put it on a mechanical HDD, all will be well
[01:58] <Dr_willis> I think people tend to worry way to much about  swap writes. but i got 8gb of ram - and rarely see swap used.
[01:58] <daftykins> sure, you do - but not everyone has the same hardware
[01:59] <Dr_willis> askubuntu.com had some tweak guides on ssds also.
[01:59] <Dr_willis> gavilan2,  and your ram amount is what exactly?
[02:00] <gavilan2> Dr_willis: 1 GB... I only use firefox usually...
[02:01] <daftykins> with a billion tabs?
[02:01] <Dr_willis> so.. you spent money on a ssd, instead of more ram? ;)
[02:01] <crazycory22> hello all
[02:02]  * Tex_Nick went CRAZY on this box with 16Gb of ram ... i doubt i'll ever use more than about 6Gb ... I am running an APU though ...integrated GPU shares sys ram
[02:03] <gavilan2> daftykins: 10 tabs at the most....
[02:03] <gavilan2> Dr_willis: My linux is a VM... The host PC has 16 GB.... I could put more ram into it, but I don't think I need it...
[02:04] <Dr_willis> gavilan2,  so you are worried about a virtual swap partition? thats on a real ssd?
[02:04] <Dr_willis> in a virtual hard drive. ;)
[02:06] <gavilan2> Dr_willis: I don't want to send many writes to the SSD...
[02:06] <Dr_willis> makes me wonder what this DigitalOcean VPS is doing.. they say they are using all SSD's  and i had a swap partition on them
[02:06] <daftykins> gavilan2: is the SSD the only storage in the system?
[02:07] <gavilan2> daftykins: I have some HDDs too, but the VM runs from the SSD....
[02:07] <Dr_willis> may be best to monitor how much the VM is swapping.. and if its doing it a lot.. increase its ram.
[02:08] <daftykins> gavilan2: just turn the swap off / reinstall without one
[02:08] <Dr_willis> or setup a 2nd virtual disk for the vm thats not on a ssd just for its swap partion/drive. but that may be overkill.
[02:09] <crazycory22> ok you guys would be the ones to ask i'm assuming.  i just installed Linux Mint.  And I am using xchat-gnome.  Is there a better irc client?
[02:09] <Dr_willis> crazycory22,  just 'xchat'  or 'weechat' and  Mint has its own support channels...
[02:09] <SuperLag> Tex_Nick: I thought 16GB was crazy in my MacBook Pro. Now on this ThinkPad, I've got 32GB of RAM. It's amazing.
[02:10] <SuperLag> Tex_Nick: and you'll use all 16GB of that, easily. From the *nix perspective... unused RAM is wasted RAM, so it'll use everything available.
[02:11] <mehwork> how do you install JRE with apt? is it the 'default-jre' package?
[02:11] <nevyn> !ram
[02:11] <Dr_willis> !java
[02:12] <Guest4030> i need help with this system LIDE how to get the sound
[02:13] <heri> test
[02:14] <reisio> heri: fail
[02:14] <SuperLag> reisio: ^5
[02:14] <mehwork> Dr_willis: that page is confusing, it says to install openjdk-jre6 and openjdk-jre7, but does that make sense or is it trying to say to install one or the other?
[02:14] <reisio> :p
[02:14] <Tex_Nick> SuperLag : lol ... hey man ... hey if you can afford it, Go For IT ;-) ... i use ffmpeg & handbrake for video transcoding sometimes ... with threads set to 4 ( i have a 4 core APU ) those apps will run all 4 cores at 100% ... the ram never exceeds about 6Gb though ... hey how you like that thinkpad ?
[02:15] <nevyn> Tex_Nick: how are you measuring your ram usage?
[02:15] <SuperLag> Tex_Nick: love it. I've got the W530, and everything works. Just set up the fingerprint thing yesterday. Now when the screensaver comes on, I swipe my index finger and it logs me in.
[02:15] <SuperLag> Tex_Nick: I love its expandability, as well. I have 3 SSD
[02:16] <SuperLag> Tex_Nick: hit Enter too quickly. 3 SSD's for a total of 1.1TB of storage. Pulled the optical. don't need it but once in a blue moon.
[02:16] <Tex_Nick> SuperLag ... measuring ram ussage with system monitor ... is there a more efficient way ???
[02:17] <SuperLag> Tex_Nick: I most often just look at "top".
[02:17] <franck_> hi :)
[02:17] <SuperLag> Tex_Nick: there are other ways, but top is sufficient for my usage
[02:17] <Tex_Nick> SuperLag ... jeeze that sounds super cool ... i might consider one of those in the n ear future
[02:18] <SuperLag> Tex_Nick: 2 regular 2.5" drives for 2 of them, and the third is an mSATA card.
[02:18] <Tex_Nick> SuperLag ... yeah i love top from terminal ... specially from SSH login ;-)
[02:18] <SuperLag> sorry... redundant on the "2"
[02:20] <Dr_willis> mehwork,  depends on if you want java 6 or java 7
[02:21] <SuperLag> Tex_Nick: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5772729/
[02:27] <murilo_fs> \leave
[02:28] <SonikkuAmerica> murilo_fs: Are you looking for /part or /quit ?
[02:29] <murilo_fs> SonikkuAmerica, yes thanks :D
[02:31] <Guest4030> i nee help with this system LIDE where is the control value
[02:35] <Guest6785> PINGDROPS
[02:35] <Guest4030> i need help with this system LIDE
[02:36] <tjnogueira> anyone who knows how to install a JDK via console ???
[02:36] <mimzy> My settings won't save on Ubuntu 13.04.
[02:36] <tjnogueira> i'm just a beginner .
[02:36] <SonikkuAmerica> mimzy: Live image?
[02:37] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest4030: What's LIDE?
[02:37] <mimzy> live image?
[02:37] <Guest4030> is Linux LIDE
[02:39] <Guest134351> df
[02:39] <lynnix> Guest4030,    LXDE maybe???
[02:39] <Guest4030> oh yes, sorry
[02:40] <Guest4030> i cannot find the control for value
[02:40] <lynnix> Guest4
[02:41] <lynnix> Guest4030,   value of what??
[02:41] <Guest4030> i had check system tool and preferences
[02:42] <Guest4030> the volume
[02:42] <Guest4030> i cannot find the control volume
[02:42] <lynnix> Guest4030,       ok you  need to add it   if it is gone
[02:43] <lynnix> Guest4030,       right click   on the taskbar         to bring up the menu          add         volume control
[02:44] <Guest4030> you know usually the volume is in the conner with the time but this system it dont bring it
[02:44] <lynnix> happened to me a few days ago too
[02:44] <lynnix> just add it back on
[02:46] <mimzy> Any idea why settings aren't being saved? I installed from USB.
[02:47] <SonikkuAmerica> (It's DarkAceZ here for OXI Clean!) LOL
[02:47] <brad100> does anyone here use thunderbird with dovecot?
[02:47] <brad100> for some reason thinderbird wont verify my info
[02:47] <Guest4030> Lynnix, this one it only has this, Spacer, menu application launch bar, minimize all window, desktop,  task bar window list, system tray, digital clock
[02:49] <lynnix> Guest4030,     click on   the ADD button on that window              it will bring up another menu            find volume control there   click on that
[02:50] <Guest4030> oh might God you are the best, you did it. God bless you professor.
[02:50] <lynnix> thanks but it is just something I use  and know somthing about
[02:56] <Global_Radio> is there anyway to display weather in a screensaver?
[02:59] <x1t3r> hello
[03:00] <Guest4030> lynnix question, where can i go to check my sound card?
[03:03] <lynnix> Guest4030,      check in what way           is your sound working  or not??
[03:04] <Guest4030> yes, what happens is that i had install external sound card
[03:04] <lynnix> arecord -l
[03:05] <lynnix> or   arecord -L
[03:09] <Guest62991> sorry lynnix, can you help me with my question, where can i check my sound card
[03:09] <valroadie> guest4030: type arecord -l OR arecord -L into a terminal
[03:10] <valroadie> -l is a lowercase L if you were wondering ;)
[03:11] <lynnix> Guest62991,     as he said
[03:12] <lynnix> but iI think it it    record -L
[03:12] <Guest62991> my computer i restarted i couldnt see your answer
[03:12] <valroadie> type arecord -l OR arecord -L into a terminal
[03:13] <Dr_willis> 'arecord -L '        ;)     not   'arecord -l OR arecord -L'    also.. Just to be very very very clear.
[03:13] <Dr_willis> without the quotes of course.
[03:14] <Dr_willis> !sound
[03:14] <lynnix> Dr_willis,      thanks
[03:14] <Dr_willis> just had to fight a sound issue on another machine... somehow.. unplygging plugging back in the HDMI cable got sound working... may be a slightly flakey cable i guess..  wasted an hr+ figuring that out. ;p
[03:17] <thelionroars> can anyone help me with this issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/308940/cant-access-my-raring-installation-after-adding-a-quantal-install/308946?noredirect=1#308946
[03:19] <etk> hi guys/gals.... i've had an issue on my system with updating from the repositories for a while now -- keeps failing on a few repos.  i've been trying to get multiple versions of ruby installed on my system with rvm but i think the repo problem is causing errors
[03:19] <etk> i've got the errors pasted here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5772833/
[03:19] <etk> the system is 12.0.4 precise
[03:19] <etk> has anyone experienced this ? nothing i've found on any googles has fixed the issue
[03:23] <SonikkuAmerica> etk: Try [ sudo apt-get clean ; cd /var/lib/apt ; sudo mv lists lists.old ; sudo mkdir -p lists/partial ; sudo apt-get clean ; sudo apt-get update ] in a terminal.
[03:24] <sere> etk: you could try changing your mirrors : http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[03:24] <etk> sere: let me try SonikkuAmerica's solution
[03:24] <etk> then on to yours
[03:28] <Guest39745> whats with all the pingdrops
[03:28] <SonikkuAmerica> Guest39745: Happens all the time.
[03:30] <etk> SonikkuAmerica: that didn't do the trick :/
[03:31] <etk> let me try changing mirrors...
[03:31] <etk> oh actually i just did that last night sere ... still didn't help
[03:35] <SuperLag> Is there any nicer screensaver thing, other than Xscreensaver?
[03:36] <SuperLag> The look/feel of Xscreensaver seems about 10 years old. It'd be nice to have something more modern and suave. :)
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> SuperLag: there are many screensavers looking modern, but many will use Xscreensaver base
[03:38] <sere> etk: did you add your gpd keys?
[03:38] <sere> gpg*
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> !info electricsheep | SuperLag
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> thats a nice1
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> SuperLag: apt-cache search screensaver
[03:42] <etk> sere: i did
[03:44] <sere> etk: something is stopping you from connect to certain servers and verifying a few gpg keys.. i dunno what
[03:48] <etk> hmm i've narrowed it down to just one sere
[03:49] <etk> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5772881/
[03:49] <etk> but i added all the keys...
[03:50] <etk> either way i don't understand why 1 error in sources.list breaks rvm from installing anything
[03:50] <sere> etk: if ruby is trying to pull anything from that repo. it will
[03:51] <IdleOne> !gpgerr
[03:52] <etk> i added all the keys it told me to
[03:52] <etk> not sure which specific one that is failing on
[03:53] <etk> but its a 3rd party repo that has nothing to do with ruby...
[03:53] <IdleOne> try sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 08A255AF
[03:54] <Austneal> hello!
[03:55] <etk> IdleOne: thanks... no errors now after i removed that google repo
[03:55] <etk> now back to rvm...
[03:56] <Austneal> would anyone like to help me set up postfix + dovecot? I've been reading documentation and tutorials for the past couple days and NOTHING works for me >.<
[03:56] <Austneal> can't believe Im having trouble for something so simple :/
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> Austneal: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/postfix.html
[03:57] <Austneal> also, Im looking to set it up to use multiple domains
[03:58] <tarwich> I just started running a server health monitor (zabbix) and it's warning me that inetd isn't running. However, my server only serves http and ssh. Do I really need inetd? Seems like it couldn't hurt.
[03:58] <Austneal> I can install it... just configuring it seems to be the trouble
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> Austneal: its best to ask specific errors in channel, so others might help you as good as they can
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> Austneal: maybe #ubuntu-server guys might also know your issue
[03:59] <Austneal> ah, thanks. I'll go check there
[04:00] <somsip> tarwich: have you checked to see what inetd does? You may have xinetd installed instead. Maybe zabbix just has a defaulkt config that needs changing to check for the other
[04:01] <tarwich> somsip: Yeah. It looks like inetd is a connection broker that listens for connection on behalf of other processes so that it can be managed better. And this is the default config. Some things are wrong. Didn't know about xinetd (checking…)
[04:01]  * lotuspsychje is off to work..bah
[04:02] <somsip> tarwich: I just did something that replace inetd with xinted and got concerned, but it seems to be the flashier version. Either way, check what zabbix is looking for
[04:03] <switching> so i just installed GNOME 3 in ubuntu and it worked well when I log into GNOME, but now when I switch back to unity the fonts are different and the close buttons are on the right.  What do I do?
[04:03] <tarwich> somsip: Well xinetd doesn't appear to be on the system. I just wanted to know if I can remove the check from my monitors. The ports are all open just fine, and I don't know how much inetd would 'help'. I'll google more and see if I can find out what process to look for and in the meantime I'll remove inetd from the monitor.
[04:03] <somsip> tarwich: sounds fair. Sorry I didn't have a more definitive answer for you
[04:03] <tarwich> somsip: np. Thanks for your time, man! :-)
[04:04] <Austneal> #ubuntu-server is dead :/
[04:04] <rhizome> grr. drive dying
[04:07] <Austneal> should have stuck with the windows server x_x
[04:12] <Average_Noxian_> Anyone available to answer a question? I think I've messed something up biiig time
[04:13] <somsip> !anyone | Average_Noxian_
[04:15] <Average_Noxian_> Basically, I've messed up my ssd, which I was using as a boot drive for Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Something went wrong when I was installing WineHQ, and i could no longer use update manager. I decided to reinstall using the same .iso i used to install it the first time. only this time it won't let me install it on the ssd.
[04:16] <supramindix> hello
[04:16] <KickStarRabbit> hey
[04:17] <Average_Noxian_> Everytime I try to download it, it's telling me that it's in use. So i loaded from a live usb, and tried to format the ssd so that it could be wiped and reinstalled, but I get the same error, that it's in use. What do. Google and askubuntu have not a whole lot of information on this problem
[04:18] <etk> cool thanks IdleOne, everything is back to normal and working
[04:18] <supramindix> I have not "/dev/dsp", I do? my sound works perfect, I have "/dev/snd/*" but none work for me. is for a program that needs whether or audio device.
[04:19] <etk> also thanks sere
[04:20] <sere> etk: your welcome.. glad you got it working
[04:20] <supramindix> I'm tired of searching the internet and I can not find the solution.
[04:20] <KickStarRabbit> so I got my a release of ubunto on my labtop
[04:20] <KickStarRabbit> what happened to x-windows?
[04:20] <KickStarRabbit> the gui is not what I remember
[04:21] <supramindix> plis
[04:21] <Tex_Nick> Average_Noxian_:  basically what you would want to do for a TOTALLY new install ... boot with a live usb or cd/dvd and do a manual install ... from there delete all partitions ... and continue from there ... that's assuming it DOESN'Y have another OS installed !!!
[04:22] <supramindix> how do I create /dev/dsp? or device can replace?
[04:22] <KickStarRabbit> so is there another version of ubunto I need for x-windows
[04:23] <sere> supramindix: modprobe snd-pcm-oss
[04:24] <TheLordOfTime> in a default installation, does Ubuntu separate the /home, /swap, and / partitions automatically in a default install to a drive (without customized partitioning)?
[04:24] <TheLordOfTime> last i checked it did not
[04:24]  * TheLordOfTime is trying to confirm facts
[04:24] <supramindix> sere, FATAL: Module snd_pcm_oss not found.
[04:25] <somsip> TheLordOfTime: the last time I sued it, it was /swap, and / and that was it, by default
[04:25] <somsip> *used
[04:25] <TheLordOfTime> somsip:  that's what i thought
[04:25] <kostkon> supramindix, try to emulate it with padsp:  padsp executable_of_application_here
[04:28] <supramindix> seems to have accepted.
[04:28] <kostkon> supramindix, ;)
[04:30] <supramindix> kostkon, very thanks! already works!
[04:30] <kostkon> supramindix, nice
[04:38] <Charcoalcat> When I let my cursor sit, it starts filling up with orange, and then clicks on whatever it's on. If I move the cursor, the glow stops. How do I turn this off? It keeps clicking on everything.
[04:41] <acerimmer> Charcoalcat, sounds like a hardware issue.  try a different mouse.
[04:42] <Charcoalcat> ... it stopped on its own?
[04:42] <Charcoalcat> acerimmer thanks anyway!
[04:42] <sere> Charcoalcat: i believe it has something to do with compiz
[04:44] <Charcoalcat> Oh no it started again. I didn't do anything except open a new tab.
[04:44] <sere> Charcoalcat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyZzl1FUVNg : this is how to activate it, so just do the opisite :)
[04:44] <Charcoalcat> sere thank you, I'll try that!
[04:45] <sere> Charcoalcat: your welcome, good luck!
[04:54] <switching> help!! I installed GNOME3 on ubuntu and now nothing appears on the desktop and i can't select anything
[04:57] <Charcoalcat> sere: The video is something else! The video shows you how to make shapes rotate around your cursor when you press a key combination. Mine looks like this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/16623407/screenshots/orangeclick.png
[04:57] <tones> sere how did you install it?
[04:57] <Dr_willis> switching,  common test.. try making a new user, see if they work. also clarify to the channel your version of ubuntu and what you installed exactly.
[04:58] <Charcoalcat> It's white at first, but then turns orange starting at the tip and going down! Then clicks when it's fully orange like the screenshot. The clicking is the important part.
[04:58] <Dr_willis> Charcoalcat,  sounds like some accessability feature.
[04:59] <mib_pfs> Is there a way to add a /boot partition before my / partition?
[04:59] <Charcoalcat> Dr_willis: Oh, that was it! I found it in Universal Access! Thanks!
[05:00] <Dr_willis> mib_pfs,  resize your / if its at the start of the drive and shrink it down from the front
[05:00] <Dr_willis> make a new partion then mount it to /boot/
[05:00] <switching> dr_willis thanks, but i just needed to turn something on in gnome-tweak
[05:00] <Dr_willis> why do you need a /boot/ parttion?
[05:00] <mib_pfs> Was going to experiment with different distros
[05:00] <Dr_willis> switching,  cant say i really have needed to use that tool in ages.
[05:01] <switching> dr_willis :P
[05:01] <mib_pfs> Wont resizing my / partition from the front cause data to be lost?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> mib_pfs,  i dont really see why you need a seperate /boot/ partition.
[05:01] <Dr_willis> 'resize' = gparted can resize and keep data intact
[05:01] <switching> my more important problem is that after installing GNOME, when i switch back to unity, the close button is on the right
[05:01] <Dr_willis> switching,  thats a theme setting for the most part these days. (its tweakable by various tools)
[05:01] <Dr_willis> the themes just have a script i recall that sets it to the other side,
[05:02] <Dr_willis> if you want it moved.. move it back. ;)
[05:02] <Dr_willis> !controls
[05:02] <switching> dr_willis hmm, i will look, thanks
[05:03] <Dr_willis> they should just put it in the middle. ;)
[05:03] <switching> hahahaha
[05:03] <switching> i found it in unity tweak though, thanks for your help
[05:09] <chaudhary> Hi, What is the order in which apt-get looks for proxies ( in apt.conf, $http_proxy, DIRECT etc. )
[05:13] <toobluesc> Anyone know when upstart unmounts the filesystems during reboot/shutdown ?
[05:13] <toobluesc> I need to add a task that runs after a filesystem is unmounted
[05:27] <Zelbinian> So, I have a question, but I'm not sure where to start.... basically, my Windows 7 registry ate itself this morning. Tried to install Mint a couple times... that was just not working out at all, couldn't even boot. And now right away things have been a little quirky in Ubunutu. How do I go about checking if I have hardware/driver issues?
[05:28] <MathCubes> Can some one help me get a diver?
[05:29] <MathCubes> Intel® Sandybridge Mobile
[05:29] <MathCubes> For viedo card
[05:29] <k1l_> MathCubes: ubuntu already should ship and use the right driver
[05:30] <MathCubes> well it is not because I can't play any games
[05:30] <k1l_> with steam?
[05:30] <nightfly> you might be expecting too much of your gpu
[05:30] <MathCubes> that I got 100 fps under winblows with ubuntu i got 2 or 3 fps
[05:31] <MathCubes> humm sounds to me it is the diver
[05:32] <Tex_Nick> Zelbinian:  your problems with the Win 7 registry & Ubuntu Mint would be NOT at all related ... almost sounds like you have a hardware issue
[05:32] <MathCubes> well I use X.org diver
[05:33] <wauf> Need advice. I have a usb drive which accidentally got targed by tool to make a bootable usb drive. The drive was 500gb. Now the drive reads 1.2gb. I need to recover the data. whats the best tool for this job?
[05:34] <sere> MathCubes: sudo apt-get install i965-va-driver
[05:35] <MathCubes> @sere i965-va-driver is already the newest version. The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   lib32asound2 lib32z1 libc6-i386 Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 23 not upgraded.
[05:35] <MathCubes> I have a Intel Core i5 Processor
[05:36] <sere> MathCubes: oh sorry i dunno then.. i only have the basic intel driver installed since my card sucks.. :x
[05:37] <MathCubes> okay I want to play some games I get better fps on my netbook then on here. 8 gb of ram...
[05:37] <sere> MathCubes: how can you play videos? have you done any benchmark test?
[05:37] <MathCubes> just fine for 480 p
[05:37] <MathCubes> and 720 p some what if it isn't game like
[05:37] <sere> MathCubes: are you trying to play steam games?
[05:37] <MathCubes> on Windows 1024 p Just fine
[05:38] <MathCubes> yep
[05:38] <MathCubes> http://feedback.wildfiregames.com/report/opengl/device/Intel(R)%20Sandybridge%20Mobile
[05:38] <sere> MathCubes: well if 720p is giving you trouble then i would say its software / driver issue
[05:39] <MathCubes> I know it is since with a game like Xonotic I get 3 or 4 fps on Windows like 60 or more fps
[05:40] <MathCubes> @Sere I know it is since with a game like Xonotic I get 3 or 4 fps on Windows like 60 or more fps
[05:41] <MathCubes> @sere I get just fine fps until 3 min into the game and them it drop down to 3 fps or so
[05:43] <sere> MathCubes: that it strange.. especially if it works for three minutes.. did you check your /var/log/ maybe something stopped working?
[05:43] <Tex_Nick> MathCubes: don't know what distro or dersktop enviornment you're running ... if you can access "System Testing" it will provide a lot of info ... WARNING it can take a lot of time to run
[05:43] <MathCubes> even on openbox
[05:44] <MathCubes> @Tex_Nick How do i do that?
[05:45] <tr0n> sjd_zeus: dont irc as root
[05:46] <Tex_Nick> MathCubes : for my enviornment it's in "System Tools/Administration/System Testing"
[05:47] <MathCubes> okay doing it
[05:47] <Tex_Nick> MathCubes: it can be a LONG drawn out procedure though
[05:47] <MathCubes> okay
[06:00] <talltimber> saturday 10am?
[06:00] <MathCubes> @Tex_Nick here are the resluts https://mega.co.nz/#!WB1n3LhT!WTeQDQcqvya0EmsWzezLjHIAD-YkT1u-vUC0ZNY_uoQ
[06:01] <MathCubes> Is anyone helping me
[06:08] <nightfly> resluts...
[06:09] <acerimmer> nightfly, re-sluts?
[06:09] <nightfly> typo a few lines back
[06:09] <nightfly> thought it was silly
[06:10] <Equinox3> is there any way to optimize tcp on ubuntu
[06:10] <Equinox3> packets and window size
[06:11] <Equinox3> the wifi seems really slow than on windows
[06:12] <Jordan_U> Equinox3: You can change the window size and other parameters, but first, is this a Wireless N network and do the drivers for your card support the N capability?
[06:13] <Equinox3> nope this is a alfa b/g awush adapter Jordan_U
[06:14] <Equinox3> Alfa AWUS036H
[06:19] <Equinox3> Jordan_U: it is a N network but the device isn't so i don't think i need the driver updated, also rtl8187 driver in already included in the kernel
[06:41] <coy> hey everyone can help me please?
[06:42] <amitprakash_> Hi, so I've purchased a wildcard certificate from comodo. Is it possible to enable SSL for a single sub-domain using this certificate for now?
[06:42] <amitprakash_> on apache i.e. using mod_ssl .. if so what should my vhost be like?
[06:43] <coy> iam using ubuntu 12.4 on virtual box.. when i install ltsp server ican't build client...
[06:43] <coy> i use tutorial from http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/how-create-ubuntu-1104-x64-ltsp-server-32bit-thin-clients
[06:44] <coy> from step 6 i get the errror ltsp-build-client ends abnormally
[06:44] <coy> how can do it??
[06:50] <histo> coy: can you sudo ltsp-build-client  ??
[06:50] <histo> coy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
[06:55] <coy> histo: yes i can, but i get error ltsp-build-client ends abnormally
[06:56] <histo> coy: what si the error?
[06:56] <histo> !paste | coy
[06:57] <Foxugly> join #ci
[06:58] <coy> oke..thanks for respone histo
[06:59] <Foxugly> \join #urlab
[07:00] <histo> coy: you may be able to gain more help out of the edubuntu room
[07:02] <humboldt> using xubuntu... just installed... trying to find scripts / tutorials for modifying xcfe4-notes to be more like tomboy-notes.... also hoping to fix cmdln to use 'colours' similar to de-commenting terminal / cmdln in typical ubuntu
[07:03] <humboldt> i.e. happy with gONb term... but would like better highlighting (e.g. vim with scripts installed gives awesome colours in terminal / cmdln
[07:03] <humboldt> PM if you have anything nice to share
[07:03] <allanx0> Using Ubuntu Natty 64bit. How to update sources.list? Which correct site? It seems that it wont work the updates. I use deb archive.ubuntu.com repos
[07:04] <Duke_> Installing Ubuntu right now. What 10 things should I do first?
[07:04] <bazhang_> !eolupgrades | allanx0
[07:06] <histo> Duke_: test sound, network, video etc... rejoice
[07:07] <histo> humboldt: why not just use tomboy-notes ??? and just grab a .bashrc from ubuntu
[07:07] <Duke_> histo: I meant more like what apps/programs should I get, or what customization should I go through :p
[07:07] <allanx0> bazhang_ thanks i appreciate it
[07:09] <histo> Duke_: depends on what you are going to be doing.
[07:10] <Duke_> histo: Programming, mostly in C and C++
[07:10] <Duke_> histo: It's my secondary computer
[07:10] <histo> Duke_: well check out the software center and search for some things you may need etc...
[07:10] <histo> !manual > Duke_
[07:11] <coy> histo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5773186/
[07:12] <histo> coy: remove the directory it's complaining about
[07:12] <coy> histo: http://imagebin.org/261623
[07:13] <Guest62008> hi
[07:16] <histo> coy: yeah you did not have to pastebin a imagebin link
[07:16] <histo> coy: just remove the directory it's complaining about and should continue
[07:18] <coy> histo: i must remove directory and then rebuild client, like sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i386
[07:19] <mg_> Hi! I was trying to make my second display work (it lagged like hell) by installing nvidia-current drivers, but this broke stuff. Unity does no longer work (only wallpaper shows), and I am unable to enable opengl (and thus unity) in ccsm. How do I reenable nouveau drivers or properly install nvidia drivers?
[07:20] <histo> coy: yes
[07:20] <coy> histo:
[07:21] <coy> histo: thanks.. i will try it..
[07:21] <seriously_random> I want to watch wwdc apple keynote 2013 https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-keynotes/id275834665 <-- is it possible?
[07:21] <histo> coy: backup /opt/blah/whatever if you need anythign there
[07:21] <histo> seriously_random: just watch on youtube.
[07:21] <seriously_random> histo, link?
[07:22] <histo> seriously_random: http://www.youtube.com
[07:22] <histo> seriously_random: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=apple+keynote&page=&utm_source=opensearch
[07:23] <seriously_random> histo, thanks. Though it's annoying to find a full upload on youtube
[07:24] <coy> histo: oke..
[07:24] <histo> seriously_random: Yeah I had to search for apple keynote  that was annoying
[07:25] <seriously_random> histo, found the full version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxe_0-rttIw (I think)
[07:26] <Tex_Nick> seriously_random:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzUH9PJA1Ro ... if you have downloadhelper installed in firefox, you can easilly download it too ;-)
[07:27] <seriously_random> Tex_Nick, I've got them all. Flashgot, youtube-dl, ....
[07:27] <seriously_random> Tex_Nick, however getting this to work in ubuntu: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-keynotes/id275834665 would be awesome
[07:30] <Tex_Nick> seriously_random:  guess i don't understand your issue ... what histo posted looked good to me ;-)
[07:32] <seriously_random> Tex_Nick, what you don't understand? I could try to explain better.
[07:33] <corvat> ciao
[07:33] <corvat> list
[07:34] <Tex_Nick> seriously_random: i think the link you find on itunes will be the same link you find on YouTube ???
[07:35] <histo> seriously_random: Does youtube currently work for you or not?
[07:35] <seriously_random> Tex_Nick, probably itunes has slightly better quality
[07:35] <histo> seriously_random: well you can't run itunes in linux
[07:36] <histo> seriously_random: here's the hd version on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxe_0-rttIw
[07:37] <seriously_random> histo, http://i.imgur.com/RzMwbIk.png
[07:38] <Tex_Nick> seriously_random: what histo just posted is 1080p ... jeeze that's GREAT !!!\
[07:38] <seriously_random> Tex_Nick, well. Imagine if full version was only available at itunes link I posted.
[07:39] <histo> seriously_random: well. it's not
[07:39] <seriously_random> ok you win
[07:39] <Tex_Nick> ok this is getting to be off-toppic
[07:39] <histo> seriously_random: afaik the only way to get itunes working in linux is to use a windows vm
[07:39] <summit> .
[07:40] <seriously_random> histo, I have used gnome-mplayer for quicktime in the past. Thought perhaps this itunes protocol is just as simple
[07:41] <histo> seriously_random: the links I have just take you to an itunes download page.
[07:41] <Kion> is there any program to manage an Ipad from Ubuntu?
[07:41] <jellow> you can install itunes in wine but you can't sync with apple products
[07:42] <histo> !ipad | Kion
[07:42] <histo> !ipod | Kion
[07:43] <Kion> Thanks it is not for me, but for a friend that If I help him with this he will get rid of Windows for good and use Ubuntu
[07:44] <Tex_Nick> Kion : unfortunately i don't use apple products ( i love them though ) doesn't the Ipad support SSH ... is so you could SSH into the Ipad and probably do a lot ???
[07:45] <histo> Kion: Unfortunately if he is really reliant on itunes and wanted to switch to linux he would still need a windows vm at the least to use itunes
[07:46] <jellow> It is ptobally more sane to stick with windows due to apples proprietary nature
[07:46] <Kion> Tex_Nick: Probbably bvia ssh, that makes sense, but he is not very technology oriented..
[07:46] <histo> Kion: well you could use scp if ssh is supported.
[07:46] <Kion> For me, I just dont use any apple stuff
[07:47] <Kion> histo: I will tell him to give ssh a try, maybe that is the solution
[07:48] <histo> Kion: well you can get him some graphical apps for copying files back and forth etc.. but he will not be able to backup etc.. like itunes but everything is cloud based now. Why would he even need to plug the iPad into a computer?
[07:48] <Jordan_U> Kion: Try the page that ubottu linked to before jailbreaking and using ssh. That sounds highly suboptimal, especially for a new Ubuntu user.
[07:48]  * histo is confused why an iPad even needs to be plugged into a computer.
[07:49] <jellow> Kion: I've ssh'ed into my ipod touch and all the music names were hashed , realy was not practical.
[07:49] <alocer> so we can ssh into an android phone ? 0.O i didnt know that wow
[07:49] <Kion> jellow Yes, I am looking at them now
[07:50] <histo> alocer: with a proper app installed. You can even have your android phone be an ssh server
[07:50] <Tex_Nick> are we talking about an ipod or ipad ?
[07:50] <Kion> Is the Ubuntu OS for phones ready?
[07:50] <histo> !phone | Kion
[07:50] <Kion> I would love to install it on my Samsung S3
[07:50] <alocer> lovely histo
[07:50] <histo> Kion: bascially it's not ready
[07:50] <k1l_> Kion: no its not ready, still in development. for details see #ubuntu-touch
[07:51] <Kion> Ok thanks, cant wait !
[07:55] <Ogham> Hi all, just hit a bug with /boot being full when doing the latest update to 3.8.0-25 - Is there a manual solution?
[07:55] <zetheroo> why is it that copying large files to a USB flash drive is so extremely slow?
[07:57] <Tex_Nick> zetheroo: are you using usb2 or usb3 ?
[07:57] <zetheroo> Tex_Nick: USB2
[07:59] <Tex_Nick> zetheroo: have a look at the following link ... it will give you USB Specifications ... compare them to the device you're coppying from ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus
[07:59] <Ogham> Is there a recommended way to remove old kernels?
[07:59] <emx> i want to access my encrypted home from a non-ubuntu linux. where do i find my home folder?
[08:01] <Jordan_U> Ogham: Remove their kernel packages.
[08:01] <summit> what's everyones thought on Easystroke Gesture Recognition with ubuntu?
[08:01] <Tex_Nick> zetheroo:  also keep inmind that your motherboard usb interface needs to be at least usb2 compliant ... if it's legacy usb, it's gonna be SLOW
[08:01] <Ogham> Jordan_U: Are there further actions required such as grub updates?
[08:01] <Jordan_U> Ogham: Nope, that's all done automagically :)
[08:02] <Ogham> Jordan_U: ah excellent, been a while since I used ubuntu! (Used to BSD) - So that is literally it, purge the packages and reboot?>
[08:02] <zetheroo> Tex_Nick: I don't understand ... this is not an issue with my hardware since with Windows or older Ubuntu releases this issue was non-existent
[08:02] <jamescarr> Temporary failure resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com'
[08:03] <zetheroo> Tex_Nick: This has only been occurring with the last 2 or so releases of Ubuntu  - and on all my machines here and at work!
[08:04] <Tex_Nick> zetheroo:  ahh ok ... sorry sir i don't know what that issue might be ... is it witgh only one usb stick ?
[08:04] <darkapp> hey is there a way to partition my harddrive, with an os already on it?
[08:04] <Jordan_U> Ogham: Yup, and of course you don't need to reboot immediately, but you can if you want to confirm that everything worked as expected.
[08:04] <darkapp> before installing a new one
[08:05] <zetheroo> Tex_Nick: no, just generally copying large files to USB flash drives takes ages ... it starts off fast and then slows to a crawl
[08:06] <Jordan_U> darkapp: Yes. That's actually a very common thing for users to do to get a dual boot, and Ubuntu's installer handles it quite well.
[08:06] <darkapp> i mean before the new os is installed
[08:06] <rojie1> iMdapt
[08:06] <Ogham> Jordan_U: great thanks, just apt-get purged 3 old ones, took the -extras with em.. and seemed to finish updating the new 3.8.0-25 kernel that failed to install earlier due to lack of space in /boot!
[08:07] <Jordan_U> Ogham: You're welcome.
[08:08] <darkapp> Jordan_U: is there a way to partition without installing a new os
[08:08] <Jordan_U> darkapp: Yes, you can use GParted or other tools for partitioning.
[08:08] <darkapp> apt-get install gparted?
[08:08] <pelmen> Non on is in ubuntu-arm and ubuntu-boot so I have to ask here... Anyone can help me debug boot on Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1? :) The very same kernel and initramfs boot Debian and Kali Linux but not Ubuntu which just stops somewhere and nothing happens
[08:08] <Jordan_U> darkapp: It's included by default in Ubuntu LiveDVD/USBs.
[08:09] <darkapp> so im on mint right now
[08:09] <darkapp> its on my computer?
[08:09] <Tex_Nick> zetheroo: i could do some searching ... what distros are you using ?
[08:10] <zetheroo> Tex_Nick: just Ubuntu 12.04 and up
[08:10] <Tex_Nick> zetheroo:  what transfer rates are you getting at the beginning & end ?
[08:11] <darkapp> ok got it
[08:11] <darkapp> thanx Jordan_U
[08:11] <darkapp> apreciate the help
[08:11] <Tex_Nick> zetheroo:  and what file sizes
[08:13] <zetheroo> Tex_Nick: transfer starts at about 25MB/sec and end at about 1MB/sec ... file size is anything from 500MB and up ...
[08:15] <Ogham> Jordan_U: Thanks again! That was very 'automated'! Survived reboot, and previously failed 3.8.0-25 has been installed! :)
[08:15] <Ogham> Crazy bug though!
[08:15] <darkapp> ok Jordan_U is there anyway to partition encrypted harddrives
[08:16] <Tex_Nick> zetheroo: ok i'm looking now ... no promises though ... ask your question every 10 minutes or so, providing all those details ... i'll report back in a few minutes
[08:16] <darkapp> or unencrypt my current one
[08:16] <zetheroo> Tex_Nick: no worries . thanks
[08:22] <Tex_Nick> zetheroo: man i've done a google search on "ubuntu 12.04 usb file copy slow" i find a LOT of links describing your problem ... it almost looks like a common problem ... i've just always expected usb copies to be kinda slow
[08:24] <Tex_Nick> zetheroo:  keep asking here though you'll eventually find someone with a GOOD answer
[08:24] <zetheroo> Tex_Nick: yes, same here ... I have seen a lot of people having this type of issue .. but seems there is no straightforward solution
[08:25] <Tex_Nick> zetheroo:  that's kinda what i saw in reading the first 4 search resultas
[08:25] <Tex_Nick> results^
[08:25] <splinter701> have you tried benchmarking your usb drive with 'disk utility' (disks in 13.04)?
[08:26] <Guest19405> hi all, any masta-hacka in subject ubuntu server @ amazon ec2 ? have some problems with last official 13.04 image
[08:27] <Guest19405> i think it's a bug, want to confirm it before submitting on launchpad
[08:28] <histo> !details | Guest19405
[08:29] <adnauseam> hello - did anyone here install a zotero server by any chance ?
[08:31] <histo> !anyone | adnauseam
[08:33] <Guest19405> this describes problem: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/214934 one difference: doing the same tests on 13.04, in short: ubuntu server doesn't gracefully detatch ebs volume, when i force volume to detach from AWS console, there is a lot of traces in dmesg
[08:36] <Guest19405> this problem stop us from using ubuntu @ec2, we need mdraid for our db
[08:36] <adnauseam> ubottu: the problem is there's little to no documentation. i don't know where to exactly begin. which is why i don't know what to ask about. i'd like it if i found someone who's installed a zotero server to know exactly what they've done - because i'm somewhat at a loss personally.
[08:39] <Guest19405> histo: this describes problem: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/214934 one difference: doing the same tests on 13.04, in short: ubuntu server  doesn't gracefully detatch ebs volume, when i force volume to detach from AWS console, there is a lot of traces in dmesg
[08:40] <alocer> i just cant get it. i have wasted too much time on this already i m tired of this. wireless speed on ubuntu is half of window$ or Fedora. its annoying.
[08:40] <alocer> no packet loss. no anything. WHY !!!!
[08:43] <splinter701> could it be a driver issue? Is your NIC supported by ubuntu?
[08:44] <alocer> splinter701, yes it is
[08:44] <rojie> alocer: hmm
[08:45] <splinter701> hmm indeed
[08:45] <splinter701> what sort of measurement tools are you using? The same tools using the same measurement units for each OS?
[08:45] <adnauseam> alocer: sounds like a frequency issue - try specifying a channel that;s not being used up as the one you're on right now
[08:46] <histo> Guest19405: appears to be a bug
[08:46] <alocer> splinter701, yes same tools :(
[08:47] <alocer> adnauseam, the thing is i have tried that too no diff
[08:47] <adnauseam> alocer: siwtch to modified drivers for your card
[08:48] <alocer> adnauseam, is there any? and how ? using ndiswrapper ?
[08:48] <adnauseam> alocer: what's your model ?
[08:49] <splinter701> what tool are you using to test network speed?
[08:49] <adnauseam> alocer: if you know which drivers you're using - you can find its modified version if it exists. also how are you measuring this ?
[08:50] <alocer> usual internet work .. downloads ... most of the time wget with same options ... i m curious becuz its diffrente between ubuntu and fedora :-|
[08:50] <Josh> Has anybody used unetbootin here?
[08:51] <splinter701> josh, i've used it
[08:52] <histo> !anyone | jos
[08:52] <histo> Josh: ^^^^^
[08:52] <alocer> adnauseam, splinter701 even copying file between phone and os in wifi ...
[08:54] <histo> alocer: it must be the module that is the difference in fedora vs ubuntu
[08:54] <histo> alocer: what chipset is your card?
[08:55] <alocer> histo, the module is based on kernel . and fedora is using the same module . so it should be that i m hallucinating ?
[08:56] <alocer> histo, Atheros Communications Inc. AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) (rev 01)
[08:57] <histo> alocer: well then perhaps it's a dns issue. I would check your routes out both and see if you can determine the issue.
[08:58] <alocer> histo, how much time a dns issue will waste , more than 5 seconds ?
[08:58] <Mrdanish> hi to all
[08:58] <splinter701> alocer, how many times have you tested this issue? It would need to be more than a few times for each OS
[08:58] <Mrdanish> anyone from pakistan?
[08:59] <jatt> !urdu
[08:59] <rojie> Mrdanish: 。。
[08:59] <gordonjcp> no, but there are a couple of good Pakistani restaurants I eat at
[09:00] <ghost_> Data files for some packages could not be downloaded
[09:00] <ghost_> The following packages requested additional data downloads after package installation, but the data could not be downloaded or could not be processed.
[09:00] <ghost_> flashplugin-installer
[09:00] <ghost_> This is a permanent failure that leaves these packages unusable on your system.  You may need to fix your Internet connection, then remove and reinstall the packages to fix this problem.
[09:00] <FloodBot1> ghost_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:00] <ghost_> please help
[09:01] <splinter701> have you followed the instructions ghost?
[09:01] <splinter701> remove and reinstall that is
[09:01] <histo> ghost_: sudo apt-get isnnstall flashplugin-installer
[09:01] <alocer> splinter701, thats what i tested a vm installed on windows OS one os ubuntu and one os fedora . both recieves same amount of bandwith . monitoring every action on windows . oh and the settings of the Vms are the same . but fedora wil take double of ubuntu . ( i'm not using ubuntu and fedora at same time )
[09:01] <histo> wow typo
 : sorry guys.,.
[09:04] <alocer> e.g. i have 512Kb internet speed downloading 30MB right now with the speed of 3KB :-(
[09:04] <alocer> 3KB/s*
[09:04] <vfgbvezav> can I install Mint on a SD CARD?
[09:05] <vfgbvezav> can I install ubuntu on a SD CARD?
[09:05] <DJones> !mint | vfgbvezav
[09:05] <ghost_> histo : thxz, but do i have to uninstall it first flashplugin-installer
[09:05] <Tex_Nick> vfgbvezav: yes
[09:05] <vfgbvezav> hi thx, I can use unetbootin?
[09:06] <lshkn> hi all
[09:06] <histo> ghost_: you can or --reinstall
[09:06] <Tex_Nick> vfgbvezav:  yes ;-)
[09:06] <mark____> hello i need urgent need for uubuntu file permission
[09:06] <mark____> please
[09:06] <vfgbvezav> <Tex_Nick cool thx!
[09:07] <alocer> it seems i should stick to windows for internet use :'(
[09:08] <mark____> i think you miss my question
[09:08] <alocer> this is the dozen 'th time
[09:08] <lshkn> i'am new in IRC. How i can get list of public channels on freenode? I trying '/msg Alis HELP LIST' from FAQ, but nothing hepping.
[09:08] <DJones> mark____: You haven't asked a question yet
[09:08] <DJones> !details | mark____
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> !alis
[09:08] <Tex_Nick> vfgbvezav: see if this helps ... http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> lshkn: try:   alis list *buntu*
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> lshkn: with a leading slash
[09:09] <DJones> lshkn: For general help with the Freenode network and its channels you can also ask in #freenode (type /join #freenode) for further assistance
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> lshkn: sorry:      /msg alis list *buntu*
[09:09] <ghost_> histo : ohh., please step by step.,
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> lshkn: you get the idea
[09:11] <mark_> i need drwxrwxr-x this permisson as i am making directory but i get is -rw-r-----
[09:11] <Guest19405> histo: it's in question form on launchpad, should i register bug also?
[09:11] <lshkn> thanks all )
[09:11] <lshkn> it's work
[09:11] <hd5770> chmod 777?
[09:12] <mark_> Djones : are you there???
[09:12] <popey> hd5770: 775
[09:13] <hd5770> mark_ chmod 775 <dir>
[09:13] <DJones> mark_: I am, I can see you're already being helped by hd5770
[09:14] <hd5770> :)
[09:15] <mark_> the problem is like  52697c041e41.tar.bz2  i am having but when i am doing  mv 52697c041e41.tar.bz2  .ssh  .It just makes .ssh file but not the directory . i need it to be
[09:16] <ghost_> histo : where do you live.,.?
[09:18] <histo> ghost_: sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[09:18] <horse> hi all.  I have a machines with a standard /dev/sda1 disk which all partitions are running off.
[09:18] <horse> if i want to extend my root partition using LVM is this possible?
[09:19] <mark_> Djones: the problem is like  52697c041e41.tar.bz2  i am having but when i am doing  mv 52697c041e41.tar.bz2  .ssh  .It just makes .ssh file but not the directory . i need it to be
[09:19] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip: you're a legend in the ubuntu forums & here ... how long have you been working with linux ?
[09:19] <mark_> hd57700 : the problem is like  52697c041e41.tar.bz2  i am having but when i am doing  mv 52697c041e41.tar.bz2  .ssh  .It just makes .ssh file but not the directory . i need it to be
[09:20] <ezra-s> horse, yes it is possible if you have unassigned space available
[09:21] <mark_> i think you again miss my question
[09:22] <horse> what if i do not ezra-s?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> Tex_Nick: linux as a whole, or just ubuntu?
[09:22] <ezra-s> horse, you can unassign space from other partitions afaik
[09:22] <histo> !lvm | horse
[09:22] <ezra-s> ^^ nice
[09:23] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip:  as a whole ... linux
[09:23] <horse> histo - this machine isnt using lvm.
[09:23] <histo> horse: Sorry missunderstood. You want to switch to lvm?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Tex_Nick: started on Mandrake 7, 2001 I think
[09:24] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip: was just wondering ... i've learned a lot just watching you help others ;-)
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Tex_Nick: started Ubuntu at Gutsy (7.10)
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> Tex_Nick: learning is good, makes the community stronger :)
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> Tex_Nick: plus you can help others, and so on and so forth
[09:25] <ghost_> histo : thanks histo. :D
[09:26] <horse> histo -  i was just wondering if it was possible really
[09:27] <histo> horse: if you have freespace yes
[09:27] <user8382> Problem with gsynaptics (touch pad controls).  It refuses to disable touchpad tapping, although I have "Disable tapping" checked.  I have to disable tapping and scrolling together, just to disable the tapping, which means I'm going to lose webpage scrolling.
[09:27] <histo> horse: you could also just resize other partitions currently there and expand one. The choice is yours.
[09:27] <hd5770> mark_ mkdir sss
[09:28] <hd5770> mv 2697c041e41.tar.bz2 sss
[09:28] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip: yes sir ... it's how the whole world should work ... thanks for your contribution ... you've helped me a lot without even me asking ... and more when you've addressed me directly !!! ;-)\
[09:29] <histo> mark_: mv somefile .somedirectory/
[09:29] <histo> mark_: if the directory is there you can move a  file to it.
[09:32] <allanx0> Hello need help with "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o venet0 -j MASQUERADE" the reply is iptables: No chain/target/match by that name.. Ive tried to rebuild the OS but still the same error. Anyone? Thanks
[09:35] <sahar> Hello, what we're going to do?
[09:35] <ghost_> hello
[09:37] <horse> after adding a new virtual disk to an ubuntu vm should it pick it up automatically like RHEL?
[09:37] <horse> is there a command i can use to see/scan attached disks
[09:37] <darkapp> try #vbox
[09:39] <sahar> between lowlatency kernel and generic kernel, wich is best?
[09:39] <horse> darkapp - i think this is more of an OS realted question tbh
[09:39] <darkapp> ok
[09:39] <llutz> sahar: if you have to ask, generic is fine
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> Tex_Nick: no worries dude, you are patient and reasonable so you get helped as best we can :)
[09:39] <sahar> may i know, the reason?
[09:40] <emr> i just installed mysql-server, well prompt didnt ask root password, whats my mysql root pwd?
[09:40] <llutz> sahar: if you would need lowlatency (for data-/music-/video-processing), you would know it
[09:40] <llutz> sahar: for general purposes, the generic does fine
[09:41] <Tex_Nick> ActionParsnip: TY ^5
[09:42] <sahar> realy? thanks so much for llutz,
[09:43] <horrow_> hello everybody
[09:43] <horrow_> i have a stupid question if somebody can help me pls do
[09:44] <sahar> whats your question?
[09:44] <darkapp> ^
[09:44] <horrow_> is for pidgin messenger
[09:44] <emr> my mistake, its already installed, i just updated current mysql installation, sorry :s
[09:45] <sahar> i never hear something like that. :)
[09:46] <DJones> horrow_: Just ask your question, if anybody knows and is able to help, they'll normally reply
[09:46] <mac_> morning all
[09:47] <mac_> can someone please explain me, why i can not run gparted from a app launcher? but i need to go to terminal??
[09:48] <horrow_> i managed an facebook acc in pidgin messenger then when i open a convers. windows and enter an messeage i see text before my messege like this horroww@chat.facebook.com/183acc6c_4DF55BF89ACA5:
[09:48] <horrow_> and want to hide it but dont know how
[09:48] <jnhghy> Hi, I have a clipper program that I run in dosemu, at some point I have to initialize a script that throws an error(I don't have access to the script or to any code of the clipper program) If I take the same steps on a windows machine(cmd instead of dosemu) everything is fine also running the script on a xp virtual machine that uses unix partitionated hdd throws the error. has anybody have any idea how I can fix this? or I there is another place where I c
[09:48] <jnhghy> an go with this issue?
[09:48] <horrow_> sry my english is bad
[09:49] <sahar> horrow_: where are you from?
[09:49] <horrow_> bulgaria
[09:50] <sahar> my English is bad too
[09:50] <mac_> can someone please explain me, why i can not run gparted from a app launcher? but i need to go to terminal??
[09:50] <mac_> stop complaining.. use google or go to scool
[09:51] <horrow_> sahar i can send u a screenshot to understand what i mean
[09:51] <sahar> hahaha,,, you right
[09:51] <DJones> !google | mac_
[09:51] <sahar> horrow_,  but im not the expert
[09:51] <mac_> DJones... he did not ask..
[09:52] <mac_> he was complaining
[09:53] <jnhghy> mac_ you need to be root to run gparted
[09:53] <mac_> i know, thank u
[09:53] <mac_> the problem is... i think some index is broken?
[09:54] <splinter701> i can launch gparted through synapse with no problems
[09:54] <splinter701> what happens when you try that?
[09:54] <mac_> i cant run assault cube...
[09:54] <mac_> cant run virtual mashineS...
[09:54] <splinter701> ok
[09:55] <mac_> synapse? like ubuntu software center?
[09:55] <splinter701> synapse is an application you can get from the software centre
[09:56] <splinter701> its like windows start menu search
[09:56] <splinter701> you open it up with a hot key
[09:56] <mac_> aha.. no more hot keys.. please
[09:56] <splinter701> then type your app name (or the first couple of letters)
[09:56] <mac_> ctrl alt t aint working in kde
[09:56] <Tex_Nick> DJones : google-fu ... i love that ... someone needs to infuse ubottu with google-fu ???
[09:57] <mac_> not just that.. ubotto need mind update
[09:57] <splinter701> you may need to go to your keyboard shortcut settings
[09:57] <DJones> horrow: PIdgin has its own IRC support channel, as you're not getting a reply here, it may be worth asking in #pidgin (type /join #pidgin) If you need support in your own language, you could also join #ubuntu-bg which is the Ubuntu channel with support in Bulgarian
[09:57] <horrow> DJones, ok thx
[09:58] <horrow> 2 mans in my language channel haha
[09:59] <splinter701> i just looked back, i was afk when you asked horrow
[09:59] <mac_> splinter701.. my keyboard is just ok right now.. i finaly manage to disable all key bindings... its hard to stay normal if my stupid brother goes by, and sudently start smashing my keyboard..
[09:59] <definity> How would i find out waht filesystem a usb stick is in terminal?
[10:00] <auronandace> definity: what is the output of mount
[10:00] <splinter701> horrow go to the account, select "modify account" then go to "user options" and set your local alias, that will appear instead of that long string
[10:00] <horrow> splinter701: ok ill try now thx for info
[10:00] <definity> it jsut says data
[10:01] <h22> guys, html5 videos on my computer seem to have yellow spots/"snow" on them.. I also get them on flash videos if I enable chrome's flash plugin.
[10:01] <h22> how do I solve this?
[10:01] <splinter701> i gotta go now
[10:01] <mac_> can any1 help me out with launching app by icons and not running its name in terminal
[10:02] <Iszak> How can I have a PHP script run automatically in ubuntu 12.04 headless?
[10:02] <sahar> mac_: maybe you must reinstall your operating system..
[10:02] <horrow> splinter701
[10:03] <horrow> i dont have "user options"
[10:03] <horrow> they are set correctly
[10:03] <mac_> sahar stop thinking that way
[10:03] <DJones> mac_: This link may help you creating a launcher icon https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles hopefully it'll help anyway
[10:04] <mac_> oh,... so sweeet, realy... (totaly sarcastic)
[10:04] <mac_> i think some Index has awaked with mistake :/
[10:05] <Ben64> mac_: whats with the attitude? DJones gave you a great method to create launchers
[10:05] <mac_> yes... launchers... i dont need launchers..
 can any1 help me out with launching app by icons and not running its name in terminal
[10:06] <Ben64> thats what you described
[10:06] <mac_> i asked for help over fixing index of app too.. no response
[10:06] <mac_> i haved to be bitchy
[10:06] <h22> like this is paid service?
[10:06] <mac_> sorry
[10:08] <Ben64> mac_: you've been in here for 81 minutes, and all I see you saying is how to launch an application, therefore, you need a launcher
[10:09] <h22> Need some help with video drivers here.. :| Yellow "snow" on all my videos (flash and non-flash) on chrome.
[10:10] <mac_> ok... i am allready few days walking arround, google-fuing :), pulling my bear out.. aint helping...
[10:10] <mac_> ben64, possible on prvt?
[10:10] <h22> mac_ What exactly is your question?
[10:11] <h22> _launch an application_ from where?
[10:12] <mac_> if i try to log-in in ubuntu with gnome shell.. that one did some kind of fall-back
[10:12] <mac_> and it looks like a ubunutu 2d
[10:13] <Ben64> mac_: focus on one thing at a time
[10:13] <mac_> Q? what is wrong with my ubuntu 12.04, that i cant run some app?
[10:13] <Ben64> h22: do they work in firefox?
[10:14] <h22> flash = yes, html5 videos = no
[10:14] <Ben64> well firefox doesn't support a whole lot of html5 video stuff yet
[10:15] <h22> Ben64: I believe the yellow spots on flash videos and those on html5 videos are unrelated.. and I've found that using a older flash plugin solves the problem for flash videos.. but html5 videos are still messy
[10:16] <h22> And firefox by default uses the older flash plugin.
[10:16] <Ben64> well chrome comes with its own, pepper based flash plugin
[10:16] <Ben64> adobe stopped making flash for linux
[10:16] <mac_> What is wrong with my ubuntu 12.04 lts, that i cant run some app?
[10:16] <h22> Ben64: Yes, Disabling that solves the problem for flash videos.
[10:16] <Ben64> !details | mac_
[10:17] <mac_> i am running a ubuntu 12.04 lts, and i cant run some app.. i am a damn newb..
[10:17] <mac_> better?
[10:18] <qursk> guys after searching on web
[10:18] <Ben64> mac_: what app, whats the error?!
[10:18] <qursk> i couldnt get the idea of PPA
[10:18] <Ben64> mac_: we cannot read your mind
[10:18] <mac_> i know...
[10:18] <qursk> what is it or any resources will be appreciated
[10:18] <Ben64> !ppa | qursk
[10:18] <qursk> aham
[10:18] <qursk> got it !
[10:18] <qursk> thanks !
[10:19] <qursk> and repisetory ?
[10:19] <mac_> some app. dont appear at all... other ones are there, but on a mause click, running indicator starts.. but.. thats all... i needet gparted, and after a password check... nothing happens
[10:19] <h22> qursk: Thirdparty devs use ppa to channel updates to their apps
[10:19] <Ben64> !repo | qursk
[10:19] <mac_> only if run in terminal i can run some of installed apps, progs...
[10:19] <h22> qursk: repos are the place where you download the software from
[10:21] <Ben64> mac_: gparted should be in the menu, what happens when you click it?
[10:21] <mac_>  but on a mause click, running indicator starts.. but.. thats all... i needet gparted, and after a password check... nothing happens
[10:21] <Ben64> yeah you said that, could you explain it better
[10:22] <mac_> nothing visual is happening after given password?
[10:22] <mac_> i realy dont know, how precise shell i go over this...
[10:23] <Ben64> mac_: open up a terminal and type "gparted-pkexec"
[10:23] <mac_> am... i have 6 terminals... is any1 ok?
[10:23] <Ben64> yes
[10:24] <mac_> ben???
[10:24] <Josh> So, I burned a CD with the iso of 64 bit ubuntu
[10:24] <Josh> On desktop it works fine
[10:24] <mac_> please check prvt msg
[10:24] <Josh> But on laptop, it says, "error: can't read file"
[10:24] <Josh> Any idea whats up?
[10:25] <h22> Josh: your laptop's 64 too?
[10:25] <Josh> Yes.
[10:25] <Ben64> mac_: what happens if you do "echo $DISPLAY"
[10:25] <Josh> Its intel i5 3rd generation 64 Bit
[10:25] <mac_> :0
[10:25] <mac_> ??
[10:25] <mac_> smiley shows?
[10:26] <Ben64> now... "DISPLAY=:0 xterm"
[10:26] <mac_> another terminal window has started
[10:27] <Ben64> then your system has some kind of permissions problem, not sure what you did
[10:27] <mac_> ZERO OR O?
[10:27] <Ben64> its a zero
[10:28] <Ben64> you must have done something strange on your system to cause this problem
[10:28] <mac_> got another terminal window
[10:29] <mac_> i know... i need to kill my brother... before his stupidity makes me gray
[10:29] <dopie> how do i change directory owners?
[10:29] <dopie> instead of root
[10:29] <dopie> id like guyname
[10:29] <ezra-s> chown user:group file or dir
[10:29] <hd5770> chown huyname
[10:30] <hd5770> ezra beat me :P
[10:30] <mac_> am... i remember.. to see msg looking something like that... Index brocken
[10:30] <gotwig> x
[10:30] <ezra-s> :P
[10:31] <ezra-s> dopie, check chown --help or man chown for further details
[10:31] <mac_> so.. definitely i need to reinstall the whole ubuntu?
[10:31] <Josh> I had to disable UEFI boot
[10:31] <Josh> and it worked.
[10:32] <dopie> drwxrwxr-x 2 pares101 sudo     4096 Jun 17 08:41 releases
[10:32] <Josh> Anyone has any idea what UEFI boot is?
[10:32] <Josh> I tried to read on Wikipedia
[10:32] <Josh> Went bit over my head when I skimmed through.
[10:32] <Ben64> mac_: how did you get to x?
[10:32] <mac_> x?
[10:33] <Ben64> mac_: the graphical interface
[10:34] <mac_> same as with MS windows ? it start-up on boot
[10:35] <Ben64> reinstalling would probably be easier than figuring out what is the problem
[10:35] <mac_> i put gnome enviorment.. but.. it kicked me to failsafe.. and my gnome 3 looks like ubuntu 2d
[10:35] <qursk> guys is there any redhack channel ?
[10:35] <qursk> cause 'm having an issue for instlaling on virtualbox
[10:36] <DJones> qursk: redhack? Was that meant to be redhat?
[10:36] <h22> guys, I need to permanently add a flag to an app.. How do I do that?
[10:37] <DJones> qursk: If it was meant to be redhat, try #rhel on freenode
[10:38] <mark_> mark@mark-VirtualBox:~$ mv 59586a067f4.tar.bz2 .ssh mv: cannot move `59586a067f4.tar.bz2' to `.ssh/59586a067.tar.bz2': Permission denied ... pplease help
[10:39] <Znoosey> mark_, when in doubt, sudo
[10:39] <DJones> mark_: Is the .ssh folder in your root directory, or is it a folder in your /home folder
[10:40] <DJones> mark_: Depending on which it is, you'll need to change the command you're using
[10:40] <qursk> thank you guys !
[10:42] <mac_> ben?
[10:43] <lag> Any udisk pros around?
[10:43] <Tex_Nick> I have my grandkids pc (13.04) setup to bypass grub & lightdm ( just login to their desktop on start-up ) I also have "Real VNC" set to run in "Startup Applications" so I can vnc into that box to see what they are doing ... but mainly to update their system ... I would prefer to NOT have "Real VNC" running all the time ... i'm able to SSH into that box though ... am having problems starting "Real VNC" under SSH ... would kinda like to s
[10:43] <Tex_Nick> ee the desktop (gui)
[10:43] <lag> Or udisks, I think I should say
[10:44] <mac_> if i install ubuntu 12.04 lts.. on 1 computer... can it be somehow copied to another comp? l
[10:44] <qursk> yeah
[10:44] <qursk> im having probvlems by finding
[10:44] <qursk> single iso files too
[10:44] <qursk> x86 iso files of rhel
[10:45] <mark_> Djones: home folder..but you can please tell for both root also
[10:46] <DJones> mark_:  Try mv 59586a067f4.tar.bz2 ~/.ssh to copy the file into your .ssh folder in your home directory
[10:47] <DJones> mark_: If you just want to copy (rather than move the file) use 'cp' rather than 'mv'
[10:49] <mark_> Djones :mark@mark-VirtualBox:~$  mkdir .ssh mkdir: cannot create directory
[10:52] <mark_> Djones :  i think you miss my question
[10:55] <h22> where on the filesystem can I find all the installed apps?
[10:55] <h22> ^ the applications that are launch-able, from the gnome-shell
[10:57] <bipul> Just use this command in terminal  which <Name of file> You will know the position of files.
[10:57] <bipul> h22,  Just use this command in terminal  which <Name of file> You will know the position of files.
[10:58] <h22> ^ I don't understand that.. but I was looking for all the .desktop files.
[11:00] <chiliblue> hi, my notebook ethernet adapter isn't showing up... not there in the dmesg log or lspci.
[11:03] <chiliblue> show the ethernet controller show up with lspci even if there is no module for it?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> chiliblue: try:  sudo lshw -C network
[11:06] <leehambley> hi all, I'm looking for a way to stop apache2,samba and netatalk starting when installed via apt, I keep running into this: http://lifeonubuntu.com/how-to-prevent-server-daemons-from-starting-during-apt-get-install/ solution, and can't help thinking "that's an ugly hack" - but I also can't find much information on how to properly use policy-rc.d
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> leehambley: i believe in the postinst, they are started...
[11:07] <jrib> leehambley: zless /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.policy-rc.d.gz   I believe is the documentation you seek
[11:07] <leehambley> ActionParsnip: right, and invoke-rc.d should consult /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d if it exists
[11:07] <leehambley> sure jrib: I can create a script there that accepts those options, and if apache2/nginx/samba./netatalk are listed, return 105 or similar… but that documentation also reads "MUST BE MANAGED BY THE ALTERNATIVES SYSTEM"
[11:08] <leehambley> so it looks like I'd be doing something pretty risky if I just drop a ruby/bash script in there?
[11:08] <jrib> leehambley: ... by any package providing it
[11:08] <leehambley> fair call… so I can drop something that just exits with the code if arg matches
[11:09] <leehambley> thanks for the sanity check jrib
[11:09] <jrib> leehambley: you can see a more authoritative document pointing to policy-rc.d here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch3.en.html (search for policy-rc.d)
[11:10] <neibors> Hi all!  I need help in one problem: when I installed Ubuntu I formated HDD (to 2 parts). First parts I formated for using in ubuntu, second...well... I'm skipped the hard drive marking ... How i can now mark second part of HDD for using in ubuntu?
[11:10] <leehambley> ahh: invoke-rc.d support is mandatory in Debian, which means that for Debian 4.0 etch and later releases you can write a policy-rc.d file that forbids starting new daemons before you configure them. Although no such scripts are packaged yet, they are quite simple to write. See policyrcd-script-zg2.
[11:10] <leehambley> thanks again
[11:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> neibors: leave it unpartitioned and the installer will see the free space and install to it (is that what you mean?)
[11:11] <jrib> leehambley: no problem
[11:15] <Tex_Nick> if i can SSH into a box on my LAN ... shouldn't it be easy to start the "Real VNC Server" usr/bin/vncserverui ???
[11:15] <MOUD> Hey all
[11:15] <juliustemp> test
[11:16] <MOUD> How can I install ubuntu on a flash drive?
[11:17] <neibors> ActionParsnip, Hmm... How I can launch installer for this? I can't see free space in my system. Where I can see all unmarked space?
[11:17] <neibors> MOUD, Live-USB or for install?
[11:17] <DJones> MOUD: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[11:18] <MOUD> neibors: install but on a usb. I dont want the "try" / "install" always appearing when booting
[11:20] <neibors> MOUD, I think it is"Live-USB". Read message from DJones
[11:21] <MOUD> Im reading it, thanks for the link DJones
[11:21] <AceKing> For about the last week, I have been having trouble viewing youtube videos. I keep getting an error: "An error occurred, please try again later" I tried unistalling, and reinstalling flash plugin, and same for java. Nothing worked. Can someone help me with this?
[11:22] <jrib> AceKing: those sound like server-side issues
[11:22] <AceKing> I tried in both Firefox and Chromium, and same thing happens in both browsers
[11:22] <ubuntu___> Hey
[11:22] <jrib> AceKing: does it happen every time for every video?
[11:22] <ubuntu___> How to install "ASSIMP" library in ubuntu?
[11:23] <ubuntu___> It's an OpenGL lib.
[11:23] <jrib> !software | ubuntu___
[11:23] <jrib> ubuntu___: apt-cache search assimp
[11:23] <AceKing> jrib: No, once in a great while, one of the videos will work
[11:24] <ubuntu___> Thanks. Tho "E: Unable to locate package assimp
[11:24] <jrib> ubuntu___: you did not type the command I gave you
[11:24] <ubuntu___> jrib: Your command output was: Nothing
[11:24] <ubuntu___> jrib: So I guess it worked
[11:24] <jrib> ubuntu___: run "sudo apt-get update" and try again.  If you still have no output, pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update"
[11:25] <jrib> AceKing: google suggests clearing your cookies
[11:25] <ubuntu___> jrib: Done. Still nothing. Ok.
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> !find assimp
[11:26] <jrib> AceKing: also, disable extensions
[11:26] <AceKing> jrib: I am getting an output. do you want me to pastebin?
[11:26] <jrib> AceKing: no output from what?
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu___: sudo apt-get install assimp-utils
[11:27] <ubuntu___> jrib: http://pastebin.com/6AAX50BK
[11:27] <AceKing> jrib: you wanted me to run the command "apt-cache search assimp" right?
[11:27] <jrib> AceKing: no
[11:27] <AceKing> jrib: ooops, sorry
[11:27] <ubuntu___> ActionParsnip: "... E: Unable to locate package assimp-utils"
[11:28] <jrib> AceKing: disable your extensions
[11:28] <jrib> AceKing: (and clear cookies again)
[11:28] <AceKing> jrib: OK
[11:28] <jrib> !repos | ubuntu___
[11:28] <jrib> ubuntu___: you need to enable the universe repository
[11:28] <ubuntu___> jrib: Oh.
[11:29] <jrib> AceKing: and clear your cache... I'm mostly just reading: http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/939314
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu___: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:30] <AceKing> jrib: On Firefox, I have it set to private all the time. It does not store any history.
[11:30] <ubuntu___> ActionParsnip: "Ubuntu 12.10 \n \l"
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> !find assimp quantal
[11:30] <jrib> AceKing: probably still caches thing (maybe?).  Anyway, see what happens if you unset that
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> !info assimp-utils quantal | ubuntu___
[11:31] <AceKing> jrib: OK
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu___: " In component universe " enable the universe repo
[11:32] <ubuntu___> ActionParsnip: I did. "System Settings -> Software Sources -> universe [check]"
[11:32] <AceKing> jrib: disabled extensions, and still doing same thing.
[11:34] <AceKing> jrib: again, it's doing it on both Firefox and chromium. I don't use Chromium in privacy mode, so I cleared the history, and disabled addons.
[11:34] <gry> http://askubuntu.com/questions/92377/installing-xulrunner-adding-mozilla-daily-ppa-doesnt-help "After few reading then it looks like Canonical removed XULRunner from repos" why?
[11:35] <BluesKaj> AceKing, run sudo apt-get update-alternatives ..see if that helps
[11:35] <AceKing> BluesKaj: OK
[11:36] <AceKing> BluesKaj: When I run that command, I get "Invalid operation update-alternatives"
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> gry: https://launchpad.net/xulrunner   not been updated for a while, could ask aLEX sACK WHY....
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> gry: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xulrunner-1.9.2/+changelog
[11:42] <phiq> L
[11:44] <MOUD> Method 3 installation is a headache :s
[11:46] <ubuntu___> jrib: Thanks. It works after apt-get update once more.
[11:46] <ubuntu___> ActionParsnip: Thanks. It works.
[11:46] <jrib> ubuntu___: great
[11:47] <jrib> AceKing: it's not about clearing history, it's about clearing cookies and cache according to that link I sent you
[11:48] <jrib> AceKing: do know though that I have received that message in the past and I just refresh a minute later and the video plays fine.  It's not very often for me though
[11:50] <MOUD> Can I install ubuntu using only fat32?
[11:50] <AceKing> jrib: I cleared everything on both browsers, and still nothing. The funny thing is, if I run my mouse along the time frame of the video, I can see the small popup showing the video, but if I try clicking to advance to that point, it doesn't go
[11:51] <BluesKaj> AceKing,  sudo update-alternatives --config  /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> MOUD: FAT32 is not complex enough for Ubuntu to be held on
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> MOUD: you can make a FAT32 partition then make the install media using it but the actual install will need to be on a Linux partition of some sort
[11:54] <AceKing> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5773738/
[11:56] <MOUD> ActionParsnip: I was afraid of that, thanks for the info
[11:57] <BluesKaj> AceKing, it's pointing to /etc/alternatives which is correct , so I'm not sure what the problem is.
[11:58] <dopie> touch: cannot touch `production.log': Permission denied
[11:59] <AceKing> BluesKaj: OK
[12:00] <dopie>  ls -l log/
[12:01] <dopie> total 0
[12:01] <dopie> wth
[12:02] <bgardner> !details | dopie
[12:03] <dopie> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jun 17 12:03 production.log
[12:03] <dopie> i want to switch to use pares101 and give it rwx
[12:04] <Ben64> dopie: "man chown" and "man chmod"
[12:07] <JesseH> Whats a fast desktop environment?
[12:07] <JesseH> for a slow computer*
[12:08] <DJones> JesseH: Maybe look at LXDE or XFCE they're aimed at lower spec machines so should be more capeable on a slow machine
[12:10] <ezra-s> JesseH, define slow computer, cpu, gpu, ram, etc..
[12:19] <CalimeroTeknik> say, I ran locale-gen fr_FR.UTF-8 ; LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 nano and it's in English
[12:19] <CalimeroTeknik> did I miss something there?
[12:20] <ezra-s> CalimeroTeknik, maybe it is not translated to French, but I'm just trying to guess
[12:20] <CalimeroTeknik> it is.
[12:20] <CalimeroTeknik> this works on other distributions
[12:20] <CalimeroTeknik> whatever the environment variables set
[12:21] <CalimeroTeknik> actually, I've tried for two days to set the locale on ubuntu in the past on a production server I couldn't reinstall, and I never, never could give it a locale.
[12:22] <ezra-s> CalimeroTeknik, did you use --purge in locale-gen?
[12:22] <CalimeroTeknik> uh? this is a fresh chroot.
[12:22] <CalimeroTeknik> installed with debootstrap to try things, it's 12.04
[12:23] <ezra-s> CalimeroTeknik, try "cat /etc/default/locale"
[12:23] <CalimeroTeknik> so I thought I'd tackle the problem of the locale that was a failure last time
[12:23] <ezra-s> see what's in there
[12:23] <CalimeroTeknik> well I just ran update-locale LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8
[12:24] <CalimeroTeknik> so cat /etc/default/locale says  LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8 of course.
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> CalimeroTeknik: could use localepurge, it will leave only the locales you state (or just use one for simplicity)
[12:25] <CalimeroTeknik> okay… I think I generated one anyway.
[12:25] <CalimeroTeknik> there is no such command
[12:26] <CalimeroTeknik> plus this is ubuntu (or debian)-specific
[12:26] <CalimeroTeknik> whereas locale-gen is a part of libc, and update-locale just edits /etc/default/locale
[12:26] <ezra-s> CalimeroTeknik, if you are certain you have found a bug, report it
[12:27] <ezra-s> I can't think of anything else
[12:27] <CalimeroTeknik> no. I just don't know how you put a locale on ubuntu
[12:27] <ezra-s> my locale works so I don't know what you could be missing
[12:27] <CalimeroTeknik> apparently the installer sets it alright, but it seems ubuntu hacked this so much that libc is beyond recognition
[12:28] <CalimeroTeknik> and I didn't use an installer but debootstrap
[12:28] <CalimeroTeknik> so this is a fail? I could say I wasn't sure if the previous server was a clean install, but this is.
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> CalimeroTeknik: tried localepurge?
[12:29] <CalimeroTeknik> no such command
[12:29] <CalimeroTeknik> also there is nothing to purge.
[12:30] <CalimeroTeknik> could you explain how I run "localepurge" ?
[12:30] <ezra-s> ActionParsnip, I believe you mean locale-gen --purge
[12:30] <CalimeroTeknik> apt-something localepurge ?
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> CalimeroTeknik: sudo apt-get install localepurge
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> !info localepurge
[12:30] <CalimeroTeknik> okay it's done
[12:30] <CalimeroTeknik> locale-gen --purge
[12:31] <ezra-s> localepurge is something else
[12:31] <ezra-s> did it work?
[12:31] <CalimeroTeknik> hey hey, guys. unneeded localizations shouldn't prevent me from having one
[12:31] <CalimeroTeknik> no, as expected nothing changed
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> CalimeroTeknik: you set the locale you want to keep and it sets hthe locale
[12:31] <CalimeroTeknik> I'm getting the feeling I miss something there, just as last time
[12:34] <CalimeroTeknik> well, date is in French alright, so maybe ubuntu doesn't include localization for nano in its package
[12:34] <CalimeroTeknik> that is impossible
[12:35] <hay> hi all.. I am stuck at "linux-server depends on linux-image-server (= 3.2.0.37.44); however: Version of linux-image-server on system is 3.2.0.48.58." and am unable to fix it via apt-get -f install... what are the neccessary steps to move further? thanks!
[12:35] <CalimeroTeknik> well actually that's it. nano is not available in French on ubuntu. okay
[12:35] <CalimeroTeknik> neither is bash
[12:36] <CalimeroTeknik> this is getting strange
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> hay: could download the deb manually and install it to satisfy the dep
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> hay: are there bugs reported?
[12:36] <ezra-s> lol
[12:37] <CalimeroTeknik> bash: warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (fr_FR.UTF-8)
[12:37] <CalimeroTeknik> wait, what does that even mean?
[12:37] <hay> ActionParsnip, why after all does linux-server depend on some older version of linux-image-server?
[12:38] <ezra-s> CalimeroTeknik, I believe (I'm not an expert in the matter at all) ubuntu comes with language packs, maybe you are missing those
[12:38] <CalimeroTeknik> what! again, ubuntu doesn't package bash with locale files!
[12:38] <CalimeroTeknik> ah, maybe there is a pack indeed, not some bash-i18n
[12:38] <ezra-s> CalimeroTeknik, do a apt-cache search language-pack-fr
[12:39] <ezra-s> chances are what you seek are in those
[12:39] <CalimeroTeknik> indeed, indeed, thanks
[12:39] <CalimeroTeknik> this is getting understandable
[12:39] <ezra-s> hehehe
[12:39] <CalimeroTeknik> I was "what" seeing the output of dpkg -L nano, then dpkg -L bash
[12:40] <CalimeroTeknik> starting to feel that something isn't right, not a single .mo file
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> hay: not sure, maybe its a bug in the metapackage
[12:40] <CalimeroTeknik> I mean, in my distro, software comes with its localization files in all available languages
[12:41] <ezra-s> CalimeroTeknik, ubuntu by default asks for your language and installs your language packs I believe
[12:41] <CalimeroTeknik> it doesn't when you debootstrap, obviously :)
[12:42]  * ezra-s can't think of a funny reply, remains in silence :P
[12:47] <guiyou> do
[12:48] <CalimeroTeknik> now this was an interesting contribution.
[12:49] <CalimeroTeknik> he could've gone so far as to saying "do raptors… ?"
[12:49] <CalimeroTeknik> (-ing ?)
[12:50] <Kroach> how do I sent a NotifyOSD confirmation bubble with notify-send?
[12:50] <Magicarp> My intake fan (3pin) is always around 1100RPM. How do I use 'fancontrol' to say what RPM to go at when the CPU reaches X temp
[12:52] <ezra-s> CalimeroTeknik, he meant "doh!"
[12:53] <usr13> Magicarp: http://linux.die.net/man/8/fancontrol
[12:54] <minimec> Magicarp: At my knowledge, you cannot really influence that anymore on newer computers. It is not the os that handles this, but the BIOS. You may have some options like 'target fan speed' or so in the BIOS settings. What you can do, is to use a kernel with 'undervolting' function, to lower fan speed.
[12:56] <ezra-s> Fan need to be plugged to motherboard for control also, most "in-take" fans are just connected to the PSU, unless he meant a cpu fan
[12:57] <BabyCat>  Hi folks, I'm having networking problems and I've narrowed it down to the ubuntu operating system.. Where can I go to figure out how to solve this networking problem?  It keeps me online for a few mintues and kicks me off... Doesn't seem a router problem cause the windows laptop never gets kicked off, just Ubuntu.. I'm using 12.03
[12:57] <BabyCat> 4
[12:58] <splinter701> is this on wifi babycat?
[12:58] <BabyCat> yeah. it is..
[12:58] <Ari-Yang> perhaps try proprietary wifi driver?
[12:58] <usr13> BabyCat: Wireless or Wired?
[12:59] <BabyCat> well.. the networking card I have is a Linux card.. brand new.. 450 mps.. nice one :)
[12:59] <BabyCat> LoL!
[12:59] <soa2ii> Hi. What's the difference between linux-signed-generic-lts-quantal and linux-generic-lts-quantal?
[12:59] <BabyCat> it seems when I turn off the network and restart it, I get networking for another couple minutes
[12:59] <BabyCat> so I think cause of that, it's the operating system..
[12:59] <soa2ii> Oh and linux-signed-image-generic-lts-quantal …
[12:59] <BabyCat> it doesn't tell me it's offline, just loops and never comes out
[12:59] <usr13> BabyCat: Look at  iwconfig  and see what the signal report is.  (If the signal report is poor, that is more-than-likely the problem.)
[13:00] <Walex2> soa2ii: UEFI BIOSes
[13:00] <CakeIsAwesome> How to register? :-s
[13:00] <soa2ii> Walex2: Ah … the signed one is for secureboot?
[13:00] <Walex2> soa2ii: yes
[13:00] <soa2ii> ok … thanks
[13:00] <usr13> BabyCat: Show us iwconfig.  iwconfig | pastebinit
[13:01] <usr13> BabyCat: (When connected)
[13:01] <BabyCat> I got it..
[13:01] <BabyCat> I'm new to IRC thought..
[13:01] <BabyCat> paste bin it
[13:01] <BabyCat> ?
[13:01] <usr13> BabyCat:  iwconfig | pastebinit  #Send resulting URL here.
[13:02] <Dillholio> tor stable browser bundle is missing from the tor site (file not found) anyone know if it's available?
[13:03] <minimec> BabyCat: Is this a wireless 'n' connection? If yes, I would try to step back to a wireless 'g' connection. As I see, you get the connection, but it is very unstable. Wireless 'g'  might do the trick.
[13:03] <usr13> BabyCat: Also tell us what lspci says about your wifi device.  lspci |grep ireless
[13:04] <Dillholio> lol I'm on the wrong channel
[13:04] <Dillholio> pft
[13:06] <leehambley> jrib: FWIW this worked perfectly: https://gist.github.com/leehambley/5796720
[13:07] <jrib> leehambley: cool
[13:07] <leehambley> I'd have preferred to use Bash for the scripting, but having Ruby swallow the two optional arguments was a bit easier, thanks for the tip!
[13:12] <noiro> Anyone know a workaround for the file-roller bug with adding files to archives?
[13:12] <sarah83> uhm... where's the alternative downloads and stuff?
[13:13] <samuelson> hello, am a newbie
[13:14] <Tex_Nick> sarah83:  ??? please explain
[13:14] <sarah83> what else can i say...
[13:14] <sarah83> i want the alternative downloads
[13:15] <jrib> !alternative | sarah83
[13:15] <jrib> sarah83: you can use the minimal install or server install instead
[13:15] <sarah83> jrib: where are they?!
[13:15] <jrib> !minimal | sarah83
[13:15] <Zeev> I don't know if it's ubuntu question but in term up&down arrows work fine (ubuntu 12.04) but in some interpreter like ocaml when I press up/down arrows I get ^[[D characters anyone know how to get rid of those & make arrows work?
[13:16] <sarah83> jrib: thanks but im pretty sure ive seen 13.10?
[13:16] <jrib> !13.10 | sarah83
[13:16] <jrib> sarah83: 13.10 is still in development and hasn't been released yet
[13:16] <sarah83> jrib: not even for testing?
[13:16] <jrib> sarah83: #ubuntu+1 can help you with that
[13:17] <sarah83> :(
[13:17] <Ben64> of course, if you google for ubuntu 13.10 download, it's quite easy to find
[13:20] <statl> Zeev: You can't. Your shell most likely uses gnu readline to provide those extra features. If that particular program doesn't use such a library for input, it will not support such features.
[13:21] <Zeev> maybe I can change my default shell? I've been suggested in ocaml to use "rlwrap ocaml" heh
[13:21] <jrib> Zeev, statl: you can pass interpreters through some other program to give it readline features though I can't remember the name at the moment.  If you search through search results for "apt-cache search readline" you canprobably find it
[13:21] <qursk> are you guys using kali in usb, virtualisation or as default OS ?
[13:21] <foobArrr> are there any gui file managers with miller columns besides marlin? dolphin dropped columns some time ago, and marlin segfaults. :/
[13:21] <jrib> Zeev: rlwrap is it, yes
[13:22] <statl> jrib: interesting. Didn't know that. Thanks!
[13:26] <minimec> foobArrr: Pantheon Files is a fork of Marlin. MAybe it's in better shape. It is the file manager of the elementary OS. https://launchpad.net/~elementary-os/+archive/daily
[13:27] <foobArrr> minimec: thanks, I'll take a look
[13:28] <Kartagis> why have I been getting "Couldn't upload the file, check your internet settings" when I drop a png file on Drop to share shortcut since I moved to 13.04?
[13:35] <javierbuilder> hello how calibrate the usb multitouch ?
[13:36] <Ububegin> i just did this to my ubuntu 12.04... sudo do-release-upgrade -d... the upgrade is running for almost 40 mins... wtf is happening
[13:37] <wheatthin> Ububegin, it's doing a full upgrade
[13:37] <BluesKaj> Ububegin, your OS is upgrading to the next release
[13:37] <acerimmer> Ububegin, pretty much depends on how fast your ISP is right?
[13:37] <Ububegin> Ububegin : Next release... not 13.04
[13:38] <Ububegin> BluesKaj, Next release , not 13.04 ah
[13:38] <BluesKaj> Ububegin, the -d is not a good idea for an LTS \
[13:38] <wheatthin> acerimmer, not necassarily, depends on which service he's getting it from
[13:38] <acerimmer> !mirror
[13:38] <Ububegin> BluesKaj, Can I abort this now ?
[13:38] <IdleOne> Ububegin: are you still in the downloading stage?
[13:39] <wheatthin> acerimmer, doesn't help him judge which ones faster :)..
[13:39] <acerimmer> wheatthin, so true.  blushing to admit I didn't know I could localize my mirror for the first 4 years of my ubuntu use
[13:39] <IdleOne> or have packages started to install?
[13:39] <Ububegin> IdleOne, some packages have installed... I suppose.. its been close to 40 mins
[13:39] <wheatthin> netherlands is fastest for me, and I'm in California, USA :)
[13:40] <IdleOne> Ububegin: guessing is not going to help. What is the terminal doing at this moment
[13:40] <IdleOne> ?
[13:40] <Ububegin> IdleOne, Selecting previously unselected package nmap.
[13:40] <Ububegin> Unpacking nmap (from .../nmap_6.00-0.1_i386.deb)
[13:41] <reisio> well geographic proximity matters, but so does bandwidth
[13:41] <reisio> I believe the mirrors are listed in order of bandwidth
[13:41] <IdleOne> hmm, should be safe for you to ctrl-c . it hasn't starting installing yet.
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Ububegin, the -d means you are installing a dvelopment release , which will probly break your system anyway since you skipped 13.04 and are going directly to 13.10
[13:42] <wheatthin> BluesKaj, it won't break his system.. just might make it unstable
[13:42] <IdleOne> Ububegin: hit ctrl-c and cancel the process. like BluesKaj has pointed out if cancelling now doesn't break the install, completing the upgrade definitely will.
[13:43] <BluesKaj> wheatthin, well we can only hope :P
[13:44]  * acerimmer ... thinks you shouldn't touch the terminal without at least a learner's permit
[13:45] <wheatthin> lol how else do you learn?
[13:45] <Ari-Yang> ^
[13:45] <Ari-Yang> is ubuntu 13.04 suppose to be better for laptops than 12.10? j/w (just wondering)
[13:47] <reisio> Ari-Yang: I'm sure it's _supposed_ to be better, or they wouldn't release it
[13:48] <Ari-Yang> I'm tempted to upgrade from 12.10....
[13:48] <wheatthin> it's doable
[13:48] <reisio> upgrading to new releases is quite a sane notion, ordinarily
[13:48] <Ari-Yang> if I do so, all of the PPAs and programs I installed via those PPAs will be updated to 13.04 PPAs, yes?
[13:48] <reisio> less so with Ubuntu, IME, but in general still a good notion :p
[13:49] <wheatthin> nope, temporarily disabled
[13:49] <Ari-Yang> oh?
[13:49] <Ari-Yang> so then I have to re-enable them?
[13:49] <wheatthin> yup
[13:50] <wheatthin> followed by apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[13:50] <BluesKaj> Ari-Yang, the sources upgrade to the release chosen
[13:50] <gaauud> hi all, i'm having difficulty installing ubuntu on virtualbox and/or parallels. ubuntu always boots in low graphics mode and the screen resolution is very low (800x600)
[13:51] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[13:52] <HElephant> Having an issue, could anyone help?
[13:52] <HElephant> (lubuntu)
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> HElephant  start with a quetion
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> question*
[13:52] <Pici> *another question, the real one.
[13:53] <Ari-Yang> there's also #lubuntu
[13:53] <Ari-Yang> !lubuntu
[13:54] <HElephant> I'm trying to install Lubuntu on my old laptop, Pentinum 3, ~480MB RAM. I pop in the CD/USB and choose my language and choose to install. Then after loading files it says "Starting LightDM Display Manager [OK]" with the lubuntu logo.
[13:54] <HElephant> Ari-Yang, I've been there, I am there now. It's kind of dead.
[13:55] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[13:55] <reisio> HElephant: and then?
[13:55] <HElephant>  And then... nothing. That's all that happends. The "Starting LightDM Display Manager [OK]" with the lubuntu logo for two seconds, then a black screen for 5 seconds, then it repeats.
[13:57] <reisio> HElephant: CTRL+ALT+F2, grep EE /var/log/Xorg*log
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> HElephant: what video chip do you use>
[13:58] <HElephant> reisio, should I do this when I get the problem or before the installation?
[13:59] <HElephant> ActionParsnip, urgh, some ATI Rage card.
[13:59] <reisio> HElephant: to try and fix it
[13:59] <reisio> you could also fix it from a graphical environment by booting up the install media again, and doing 'try' instead of 'install'
[14:00] <reisio> but that'll take longer (at least to someone who can stand being outside of X)
[14:00] <reisio> bbl
[14:00] <HElephant> reisio, but should I do this before or after I get "Starting LightDM Display Manager [OK]"?
[14:03] <adamk_> helgikrs1: Are you get that last line, login at the console and run 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'.
[14:03] <adamk_> D'oh.
[14:03] <adamk_> Wrong person, sorry.
[14:03] <adamk_> HElephant: After you get that last line, run 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log'. You might need to install pastebinit first with apt-get.
[14:04] <HElephant> adamk_, are you sure I can do this without an proper installation?
[14:09] <designbybeck__> I'm trying to edit an "auto.sh" script for Guest Session. I have the code reading like I want, but the dialog box is so big you can't see the ok button? Any suggestions? : http://www.pasteall.org/43235
[14:12] <adamk_> HElephant: Well you can certainly try :-)
[14:12] <adamk_> HElephant: Worst case scenario is that it doesn't work.
[14:18] <designbybeck__> I'm not sure what kind of script it is, I'm just trying to make the dialog box smaller in size. For some reason it has a bunch of blank space: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/4204
[14:18] <designbybeck__> oops, wrong link
[14:19] <designbybeck__> http://www.pasteall.org/43235
[14:20] <elijah> Hey guys, my gitg --version lists 0.2.5.0 but sudo apt-cache show gitg lshows 0.2.5.1~exp0 is available. How can I get this newer version?
[14:21] <raub> How small can I make an ubuntu server install? Just want it barebones and then I will add bind and dhcp to it
[14:21] <elijah> ubuntulog: help
[14:21] <elijah> ubottu: help
[14:22] <HElephant> adamk_, couldn't barely get into CTRL + ALT + F2
[14:22] <HElephant> could barely*
[14:22] <Ari-Yang> elij, did you try the 'Software Updater'???
[14:22] <Ari-Yang> * elijah ^
[14:23] <elijah> Ari-Yang: yes, software updater doesn't list anything new
[14:23] <faulkmore> what is the point of ctrl+alt+F2
[14:23] <SonikkuAmerica> faulkmore: tty
[14:24] <Ari-Yang> elijah, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in terminal
[14:24] <Yoshi1> which ubuuntu would you recommand for a mini?
[14:24] <Ari-Yang> !dist-upgrade
[14:24] <elijah> I am thinking "~exp0" means experimental though
[14:25] <faulkmore> How do i know how out of date my dist is?
[14:25] <faulkmore> Need to know when is a good time to use dist-upgrade
[14:26] <kekko> hello devolopers
[14:26] <DJones> faulkmore: What version are you using
[14:26] <acerimmer> faulkmore, I generally run dist-upgrade once a week ...
[14:26] <faulkmore> lubuntu 12.04
[14:26] <designbybeck__> ActionParsnip: might you know a thing about bash scripts? At least I think it is bash: http://www.pasteall.org/43235
[14:27] <faulkmore> i never knew about the dist-upgrade command
[14:28] <javierbuilder> how configure multitopuch  screen   ?
[14:28] <javierbuilder> xinput fails
[14:28] <faulkmore> Doesn't the Upgrade Manager also do the dist-upgrade?
[14:28] <kekko> What do you tihink of ubuntu touch?
[14:28] <acerimmer> !touch|kekko,
[14:28] <DJones> faulkmore: Lubuntu 12.04 is not an LTS (5 years support), but a standard release that is supported for 18 months, so that will become unsupported in October 2013
[14:29] <adamk_> HElephant: So by saying you could barely get in, you are saying that you *did* get in.  So now run the pastebinit command I gave earlier.
[14:29] <Ari-Yang> faulkmore, pretty much yes. But when Software Updater fails, I run dist-upgrade (and it fails for me when I've been slacking on updates and there are over 15-20 updates)
[14:29] <kekko> kubuntu is bad?
[14:29] <Ari-Yang> define "bad"
[14:29] <HElephant> adamk_, after 5 sec it closed down all processes and shut down.
[14:29] <faulkmore> I shut the upgrade manager off cuz it was annoying
[14:29] <kekko> orrible
[14:30] <faulkmore> thanks for the advice
[14:30] <kekko> this chat is very GOOD
[14:30] <acerimmer> kekko, not very definitive response.  I've used kubuntu but prefer Ubuntustudio.  To each his own.
[14:30] <kekko> thanks for your answer
[14:30] <elijah> Ari-Yang: dis-upgrade doesn't list anything to do
[14:30] <faulkmore> i've used the upgrade manager with over 300 upgrades needed. Never had any problems
[14:31] <kekko> wow
[14:31] <Ari-Yang> elijah, you sure you typed in dist-upgrade and not dis-upgrade (which you just typed)?
[14:31] <Ari-Yang> and if it doesn't, I dunno then
[14:32] <Ari-Yang> maybe going to the PPA's launchpad page or something, you can download the .deb of the latest  version there?
[14:33] <anup_grind> mozilla
[14:33] <elijah> Ari-Yang: Correct, it went throught the process and list 0 items to upgrade
[14:33] <kekko> mac os x is set on linux?
[14:33] <acerimmer> !ot|kekko,
[14:34] <kekko> Isn't imported
[14:34] <elijah> Ari-Yang: sudo apt-get install gitg=0.2.5.1~exp0
[14:34] <raub> kekko: it's based obn bsd, not linux
[14:34] <elijah> Ari-Yang: Just tried to force it like that but no go
[14:35] <adamk_> And saying it's even 'based on bsd' is a stretch.
[14:35] <Ari-Yang> kekko, what raub said, if you're curious, do some googling
[14:35] <kekko> what is the top FEDORA or ubuntu?
[14:35] <Ari-Yang> @ elij I'm not sure then.... perhaps someone else in the chan can be more help than me for this problem?
[14:35] <acerimmer> !best|kekko,
[14:35] <Pici> kekko: Again, this isn't on-topic for this support channel.
[14:35] <Ari-Yang> kekko, you'll get better answers if you google and research the questions and comparisons yourself.
[14:36] <kekko> thanks and excusemy
[14:36] <javierbuilder> kekko, no, i have one panel usb multitouch and i want calibrate
[14:36] <kekko> ok
[14:37] <raub> kekko: that can be a religious issue. Try both and see which one you like
[14:37] <raub> I myself use ubuntu and centos
[14:37] <kekko> centos is best
[14:38] <raub> kekko: it depends on what you are trying to accomplish
[14:38] <kekko> ok
[14:38] <Ari-Yang> kekko, btw there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:38] <raub> Ari-Yang: I think some of those questions would better belong to a more global linux kinda channel
[14:39] <kekko> ìfuck
[14:39] <kekko> fuck
[14:39] <FloodBot1> kekko: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:39] <kekko> fuck
[14:39] <jdoles> ~/.xinput.d/all_ALL contains GTK_IM_MODULE=xim, but this variable is unset in my environment. When is this file read, if ever?
[14:39] <raub> How small can I build an ubuntu server install?
[14:40] <raub> Is there a "really minimal install and I mean it" server install or must I do it myself?
[14:40] <acerimmer> !mini|raub,
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> !requirements| raub
[14:43] <raub> MonkeyDust and acerimmer, I did try installing in 1GB, which according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements#Ubuntu_Server_.28CLI.29_Installation would suffice, but ran out of space.
[14:43] <soy_el_pulpo> raub: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[14:43] <acerimmer> raub, I've not played with it enough to provide meaningful advice.  sorry.
[14:44] <raub> acerimmer: no worries. And I do know your character ;)
[14:44] <acerimmer> raub, what a guy!
[14:45] <soy_el_pulpo> raub: the key thing is the purpose of such installation, maybe ubuntu is not the right choice for you specific project
[14:46] <duelle> Hi, my laptop has an ethernet and a wifi device. When I try to ping it always uses the (not connected) ethernet device to run that ping .. even when I specify the interface the ping has to go through. It always uses the not connected ethernet. ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774145/ )
[14:46] <teamcoltra> So I kinda broke my user account somehow? I was trying to install a new graphics driver, but that went wonky, but was able to get to the driver selection by right clicking on the desktop and choosing change desktop, then going to all settings and getting to the graphics section
[14:47] <teamcoltra> However, now that I am back to the default driver -- Unity is still screwed up. All my windows have title bars on them but there is no unity bar or top bar thing
[14:47] <teamcoltra> When I log into the guest account it is working fine, so it's something to do with my user account
[14:48] <teamcoltra> I could add a new user give them admin privvys delete this one and then re-create it... but that sounds like a lot of work
[14:51] <wheatthin> teamcoltra, You could delete the hidden configs in your user home directory
[14:52] <wheatthin> when you relogin, they'll come back
[14:52] <Yoshi1> which distro of ubuntu should i use on a mini with 1.6 ghz cpu and 1 gig of ram?
[14:53] <wheatthin> Yoshi1, I have a 13.04 installed, and it works fine
[14:53] <wheatthin> 1.8ghz cpu
[14:53] <Yoshi1> cool i was worried the mini would be under speced wheatthin
[14:55] <BluesKaj> 1g ram will work  Yoshi1 , but it's the minimum for ubuntu
[14:59] <duelle> Hi, my laptop has an ethernet and a wifi device. When I try to ping it always uses the (not connected) ethernet device to run that ping .. even when I specify the interface to be used. It always uses the not connected ethernet. ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774145/ )
[15:02] <wheatthin> Hmm  duelle, did you specify a specific route/gateway ?
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> duelle  if you can ping an IP address, but not a URL, then it's a DNS issue -- try ping [ip address]
[15:03] <wheatthin> MonkeyDust, it's translating
[15:04] <kasansweat> All ubuntu native twitter clients I use (polly, turpial, hotot) have suddenly stopped authenticating correctly -- any ideas?
[15:04] <duelle> wheatthin: I didn't define a route. I only defined a gateway for the eth0 device. The wlan0 is configured via dhcp.
[15:05] <wheatthin> that's the problem
[15:06] <duelle> wheatthin: Ping doesn't use the correctly connected wlan0 card even if i enforce it with the -I parameter.
[15:06] <wheatthin> that's because you defined the gateway to ethernet .
[15:06] <wheatthin> connected or not, that's what you defined it to do
[15:07] <duelle> wheatthin: But isn't the gateway dependent on the device? I defined the gateway for eth0
[15:07] <wheatthin> gateway means gateway out of the network
[15:08] <duelle> wheatthin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774210/ Thats what my /etc/network/interfaces looks liek
[15:09] <wheatthin> comment out the eth0 stuff
[15:10] <duelle> wheatthin: I want to set the machine to be my internet-gateway.. It should connect via wlan to the router and be kind of proxy via eth
[15:11] <wheatthin> so your gateway will be your wifi net not the ethernet
[15:11] <wheatthin> uncomment the gateway and try that
[15:11] <duelle> wheatthin: ok, thx - I'll try ;)
[15:13] <comjf> Can someone help me figure out how to get shrewsoft vpn working? It appears installed, and the applications 'launch' but keeps saying ti can't connect to the key daemon
[15:13] <accc> hi
[15:13] <javierbuilder> SebastianFlyte,  ping
[15:13] <duelle> wheatthin: Seems to work ;) thanks a lot! So I think I misunderstood the gateway setting
[15:13] <wheatthin> :)
[15:13] <SuperLag> too bad kasansweat left
[15:13] <SuperLag> I was going to say, it's probably Twitter API changes
[15:14] <sienez> hi. how can I change the icon of a shortcut on my desktop on ubuntu 12.04?
[15:14] <SuperLag> Twitter doesn't care for any devs other than its own.
[15:14] <SuperLag> sienez: /usr/share/applications/<name of app>.desktop
[15:15] <sienez> SuperLag, name of app... it's a shell script
[15:15] <sienez> SuperLag, what name does it have? /bin/sh?
[15:15] <SuperLag> sienez: then I would create a .desktop file for that script, in /usr/share/applications/
[15:16] <SuperLag> sienez: what does your script do?
[15:16] <sienez> it simply calls a python file in /usr/share
[15:16] <leehambley> hi jrib: just a short question, does upstart honor policy-rc.d, seems like not, any idea how I can prevent upstart starting jobs that are newly installed ?
[15:16] <sienez> SuperLag, it just starts a gui
[15:17] <SuperLag> sienez: I'd create a .desktop file for it. That will also put it in your Unity search, or Applications menu
[15:17] <Yoshi1> BluesKaj: well i am setting up the mini for a friend she's only gonna view youtube and listen to music on it
[15:17] <Yoshi1> maybe do emails
[15:17] <sienez> SuperLag, it looks like this: #!/bin/sh /path/to/app.py
[15:17] <CalimeroTeknik> how do I add the key for a ppa, or disable its verification? apt-get upgrade says "6 not updated"
[15:18] <SuperLag> sienez: if your python script is set +x, then you don't need to call /bin/sh first. You can call the script directly.
[15:18] <BluesKaj> Yoshi1, then your friend should be fine ...hope she enjoys ubuntu :)
[15:18] <CalimeroTeknik> !pkgfile apt-add-repository
[15:18] <jrib> leehambley: I think even with sysv, a service will be started.  Though I'm not sure.  What happens is that .postinst scripts call invoke-rc.d SERVICE when you install a package.  I don't know if there's some other way than, to disable the service (use manual override (search upstart cookbook) for upstart services and sysv-rc-conf if a service does not use an upstart script)
[15:19] <Yoshi1> BluesKaj: i hope so too. i'm hoping it will also cure alot of the inevitable problems she gets with windows heh. i use debian myself and used to use ubuntu
[15:19] <CalimeroTeknik> do we have a !whatpackageisthisfilein command?
[15:19] <leehambley> cheers
[15:19] <reisio> taxi
[15:19] <wheatthin> CalimeroTeknik, apt-get update should tell you the errors of which is erroring
[15:19] <SuperLag> sienez: like I said... create a .desktop file for it. I'd recommend creating a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ - start with an existing file, make a copy of it and rename it to correspond to your script, then edit the file to have values you want, and point to the icon file you want
[15:20] <jrib> leehambley: there's some talk here that I haven't read through: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=571054
[15:20] <CalimeroTeknik> it's complaining about not having the signature key
[15:20] <sienez> SuperLag, thank you, I will do this
[15:21] <CalimeroTeknik> I don't know how to give it  the key but apparently people add the repo with apt-add-repository instead
[15:21] <sfxcc> how can i install libcrypto1.0.0 on a debian whisch have only 0.9.8
[15:21] <leehambley> thanks jrib
[15:21] <wheatthin> CalimeroTeknik, http://askubuntu.com/questions/131601/how-to-overcome-signature-verification-error
[15:22] <leehambley> unfixed for 3 years jrib, shame
[15:22] <jrib> leehambley: yeah, there may be more recent happenings.  Check in #upstart
[15:22] <leehambley> cheers
[15:23] <locutusofborg1> anyone has permission to stop launchpad builders?
[15:23] <locutusofborg1> https://code.launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/master-daily/+build/4721937
[15:23] <azazel91> does anybody know how to install netbeans on ubuntu 12.04
[15:24] <locutusofborg1> this builder is becoming crazy, misconfigured
[15:24] <locutusofborg1> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/142661343/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-amd64.vlc_2.1.0~~git20130617%2Br2768-0~r98~raring1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[15:24] <locutusofborg1> hamsa
[15:25] <CalimeroTeknik> ah yup, adding the key directly is perfect, thanks wheatthin
[15:25] <wheatthin> yup np :)
[15:26] <locutusofborg1> please stop hamsa https://launchpad.net/builders/hamsa/+history
[15:27] <ch3cooh> guys need help, i shifted one folder from one account to another account (it contains lots of sub folders) using cp command. when i access the folder using the other account i dont have the permission to view it so i use chmod 777 foldername, but then sub folders still have to be given permission, is there a recursive chmod?
[15:27] <sienez> SuperLag, is there any documentation for the fields in a .desktop file? Eg, i took as template the one for transmission-gtk. it says Icon=transmission. Which path are they looking for the icons?
[15:27] <wheatthin> locutusofborg1, why would you need a ppa for vlc anyways?
[15:27] <sp2er> Can anyone point me to a guide to make my current monitor settings permanet in ubuntu 13.04? I have the settings right where I want them using the guides for Xrandr..but cant find an Xorg.conf to make them stick!
[15:27] <locutusofborg1> this is the master trunk
[15:27] <locutusofborg1> the upcoming 2.1, not the stable
[15:27] <ch3cooh> nvm guys it's done :) reading the man page helps!
[15:27] <reisio> sp2er: what graphics driver are you using?
[15:28] <AlanBell> ch3cooh: yes, there is, but don't 777 it, use a group
[15:28] <sp2er> ivy bridge intel HD 4000
[15:28] <wheatthin> locutusofborg1, then it's not our problem :)
[15:28] <locutusofborg1> wheatthin: a builder misconfigured it is
[15:28] <wheatthin> if it's unstable, what do you expect?
[15:28] <locutusofborg1> the problem is the BUILDER, do you understand?
[15:28] <locutusofborg1> not the code
[15:28] <locutusofborg1> https://launchpad.net/builders/hamsa/+history
[15:28] <locutusofborg1> it is eating every build
[15:29] <wheatthin> lol bye.
[15:29] <locutusofborg1> I need somebody with privileges for stopping the builder
[15:29] <krz> hi, is it safe for me to put export TERM="xterm-256color" in .bashrc?
[15:30] <sp2er> Reisio: I am using just onboad Intel HD 4000 graphics
[15:30] <reisio> krz: worst you'd have to do is undo it
[15:30] <krz> reisio: export TERM="xterm-256color" in bashrc, will have 256 color enabled in terminal by default right? even for programs like vim?
[15:30] <reisio> sp2er: http://askubuntu.com/questions/63681/how-can-i-make-xrandr-customization-permanent ?
[15:31] <reisio> krz: either it will or it won't
[15:31] <krz> reisio: but that is intended right?
[15:32] <reisio> krz: sounds possible
[15:32] <krz> thanks
[15:32] <sp2er> Reisio: I did come across that guide...but I dont know where to locate that Xorg.conf file...it is not in the folder as suggested by that guide...nothing like that under the X 11 folder here
[15:32] <sienez> what's the simplest way to change the icon of a file on the desktop?
[15:33] <reisio> depends on the file
[15:33] <reisio> sp2er: you can make the directory
[15:33] <sienez> it starts a python script
[15:33] <reisio> sienez: is it a .desktop file?
[15:33] <sienez> it's a one liner: /path/to/script.py
[15:33] <reisio> sp2er: oh, although, you should probably use xorg.conf.d
[15:34] <reisio> sp2er: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/
[15:34] <kepiting_> !DMZ
[15:34] <reisio> sienez: so it's a plain text file?
[15:34] <sienez> reisio, yes
[15:34] <sp2er> Reisio: ok I will check that guide out
[15:34] <reisio> sienez: what do you want the icon to be?
[15:34] <SuperLag> sienez: sorry, been on another window. You can point to the path where your icon graphic is.
[15:34] <sienez> the logo of the program it launches
[15:35] <reisio> sienez: okay, you might want to replace it with a .desktop file, then
[15:35] <sienez> SuperLag, yes I did that. however the logo didnt change
[15:35] <reisio> sienez: right click, you can probably find 'create launcher' or the like
[15:35] <reisio> just make a dummy one then edit it with a text editor, setting the icon is simple
[15:35] <sienez> reisio, nah, all i can do is create an empty text document
[15:36] <reisio> sienez: they are empty text documents
[15:36] <reisio> well, not empty :p
[15:36] <reisio> http://linuxcritic.wordpress.com/2010/04/07/anatomy-of-a-desktop-file/
[15:37] <SuperLag> reisio: ohhh.... good info.
[15:37] <SuperLag> reisio: I wish I would have had that doc a LONG time ago :)
[15:37] <reisio> there's a wizard with most DEs that you can get to from the right-click context menu, on the desktop
[15:38] <reisio> but yeah, it's nice to know it's just a text file
[15:38] <CalimeroTeknik> er, now I have no error at all, but apt-get upgrade says "6 packages not upgraded", I want them upgraded
[15:38] <CalimeroTeknik> what should I do?
[15:38] <CalimeroTeknik> can I say apt-get install repository/package ?
[15:38] <wheatthin> choose a different one
[15:38] <SuperLag> reisio: I found it it was a .desktop file, and then proceeded to edit. Never had any guide to follow.
[15:39] <reisio> well, that's just some stupid blog post
[15:39] <reisio> it should be in a man page somewhere
[15:39] <reisio> alas I don't know which ATM
[15:41] <azazel91> anybody knows how to install netbeans since im having problems
[15:41] <wheatthin> CalimeroTeknik, try this one http://www.unixmen.com/vlc-2-0-7-has-been-released-ppa-ubuntu/
[15:41] <reisio> azazel91: what've you tried?
[15:42] <wheatthin> latest stable
[15:42] <azazel91> you mean commands?
[15:42] <reisio> SuperLag: man desktop-file-edit
[15:44] <CalimeroTeknik> wheatthin, do you mean I must remove the ppa and re-add it with add-apt-repository?
[15:44] <wheatthin> yup
[15:44] <CalimeroTeknik> does that change anything?
[15:44] <CalimeroTeknik> what will it do that I didn't?
[15:45] <wheatthin> it will install fine.
[15:45] <CalimeroTeknik> maybe the problem is that I added it at the bottom of sources.list
[15:45] <wheatthin> and work
[15:45] <wheatthin> and be a daily build
[15:45] <wheatthin> lol no
[15:45] <CalimeroTeknik> I'm not installing VLC
[15:45] <sfxcc> is it possible to add libcrypto.so.1.0.0 to debian lenny ?????
[15:45] <CalimeroTeknik> I'm upgrading libboost to v1.49
[15:45] <sienez> umm sorry, I don't get it. here's what my files look like: paste.ubuntu.com/5774327
[15:45] <CalimeroTeknik> and apt-get proudly NOT upgrades it albeit my adding the ppa
[15:46] <SuperLag> reisio: nice. I didn't know it was a standard.
[15:46] <reisio> yeah, freedesktop.org thing
[15:47] <reisio> probably a better man page
[15:47]  * reisio shrugs
[15:48] <subz3r0> hi
[15:48] <subz3r0> just curious. does anyone else have this problems that the root is filled up to max very fast? Problem is the uvcdynctrl-udev.log file located in /var/logs that can take Gigabytes of space?
[15:49] <SuperLag> sienez: I'm looking. Hold on just a second.
[15:49] <subz3r0> found a bug on launchpad, but no real solution. especially not why its floodin my hdd?
[15:49] <CalimeroTeknik> wheatthin, you won't tell (or don't know?) what apt-add-repository will do, aside from adding a line to /etc/apt/sources.list?
[15:50] <wheatthin> CalimeroTeknik, that's all it does is at it to the source list
[15:50] <SuperLag> sienez: the python script you're trying to run... is it in /usr/share/galicaster/galicaster-1.2.3/, and it's called run_galicaster.py ?
[15:50] <SolarisBoy> subz3r0: are you using the uvcdynctrl package for something?
[15:50] <wheatthin> CalimeroTeknik, apt-get update, updates the source
[15:50] <sienez> SuperLag, exactly
[15:50] <wheatthin> CalimeroTeknik, and apt-get upgrade upgrades
[15:50] <utusan> CalimeroTeknik: it also gets/update PGP keys
[15:50] <CalimeroTeknik> I did apt-get update;apt-get upgrade
[15:51] <CalimeroTeknik> I did that as well manually
[15:51] <CalimeroTeknik> the key
[15:51] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: sorry i did not mention. Its on my netbook with a build in webcam
[15:51] <CalimeroTeknik> now apt-get just says there are 6 non-upgraded packages
[15:51] <CalimeroTeknik> and I want it to upgrade them but it won't
[15:51] <sienez> but I also have in /usr/local/bin a script to launch the same command, so just running 'galicaster' from terminal is sufficient
[15:51] <SolarisBoy> subz3r0: i dont believe that is a built in package of ubuntu's
[15:51] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: found this bug:https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libwebcam/+bug/811604. But there is not a real solution for this problem
[15:51] <wheatthin> CalimeroTeknik, that means they are up to their latest at THAT ppa
[15:52] <CalimeroTeknik> aren't!
[15:52] <CalimeroTeknik> I still have the ones from the main repos
[15:52] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: there is also no reason for this bug. It must be from the ubuntu repos. I did not install anything from other sourced.
[15:52] <SuperLag> sienez: I would recommend making your icon a PNG file
[15:52] <SolarisBoy> it's possible that a package that you installed has this "bug" of over logging -
[15:53] <SolarisBoy> is what im getting at. =)
[15:53] <SolarisBoy> doesn't mean "ubuntu" will be fixing it or explaining why - my question is - are you "using" that package?
[15:53] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: i did not install this package. 100% sure. it will be installed when ubuntu is checking for the hardware while installation
[15:53] <SolarisBoy> afaik you don't need that to run any uvc camera -
[15:53] <sienez> SuperLag, ok
[15:53] <wheatthin> CalimeroTeknik, i'm saying at that ppa maintained by someone, although it may not be the latest, is the latest at that ppa, understand?
[15:54] <CalimeroTeknik> not at all
[15:54] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: got a hint how i can check when it was installed?
[15:54] <CalimeroTeknik> I want boost 1.49 so I added this https://launchpad.net/~mapnik/+archive/boost
[15:55] <wheatthin> CalimeroTeknik, right, and he might now have it at it's latest update from the official release
[15:55] <CalimeroTeknik> apt-get update;apt-get upgrade give no errors (I imported the key as well) but say "not upgraded"
[15:55] <CalimeroTeknik> I still have 1.46
[15:55] <CalimeroTeknik> which is the version in the main repo
[15:55] <wheatthin> right.. which the maintainer probably didn't have it upgraded yet
[15:55] <CalimeroTeknik> how do I install v1.49 from this ppa?
[15:56] <wheatthin> CalimeroTeknik, search for the right ppa
[15:56] <SolarisBoy> subz3r0: maybe with dpkg-log-summary or '/var/log/dpkg.log'
[15:56] <CalimeroTeknik> that must be this one
[15:56] <CalimeroTeknik> anyway the version is superior to that I have
[15:56] <wheatthin> CalimeroTeknik, so you assume
[15:56] <CalimeroTeknik> it's a superior version!
[15:56] <CalimeroTeknik> apt-get is refusing to go from 1.46 to 1.49
[15:57] <CalimeroTeknik> I don't understand
[15:57] <CalimeroTeknik> I used the repo for the right version of ubuntu (precise, 12.04)
[15:57] <CalimeroTeknik> I don't even
[15:57] <utusan> CalimeroTeknik: use apt-get dist-upgrade instead
[15:57] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: i found a dirty solution. backup the file and set debug=0. but that cant be a real solution to fix this isse. also its weird that only people with a laptop have this problem
[15:58] <SolarisBoy> not really
[15:58] <CalimeroTeknik> ahhh thanks utusan !
[15:58] <subz3r0> none with a normal usb webcam on a pc at home
[15:58] <utusan> CalimeroTeknik: np
[15:59] <SolarisBoy> the job of the app is to control dynamic settings on the cam - it may be related to that package + type of camera that comes on those laptops
[15:59] <SolarisBoy> especially if it's just a case of over logging something informational
[15:59] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: wondering why this issue came up today. Sit in the train, listened to music and played solitaire when i wondered that my system is gettin slower and slower and after a while it complained that root has no free space
[15:59] <SolarisBoy> what was your camera doing?
[15:59] <subz3r0> the cam? Nothing
[15:59] <SolarisBoy> have you looked at the messages in the logs? at what they say?
[16:00] <wheatthin> might be overgrowing debug logs
[16:00] <SolarisBoy> exactly
[16:00] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: .log had 6,3gigs. wasnt able to open it ;) even starting gnome was not possible anymore. so i had to boot the recovery mode and delete this fine on the root console
[16:00] <SolarisBoy> head/tail it
[16:00] <subz3r0> now the file has just 4kb
[16:00] <SolarisBoy> possibly/likely the same message repeated
[16:01] <SolarisBoy> thats because you deleted it or backed it up..
[16:01] <subz3r0> wait a sec please. will pastebin the actual file
[16:01] <SolarisBoy> its not a solution really it's just preventing the inevitable
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> subz3r0: cat /dev/null > /path/to/bigfile.log    makes them smaller :)
[16:01] <BluesKaj> subz3r0, have autoremoved and autocleaned after upgrading lately ?
[16:02] <SolarisBoy> heh
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> subz3r0: or:  echo DIE | sudo tee /path/to/bigfile.log
[16:02] <subz3r0> just a sec ;) will post it on pastebin :)
[16:03] <CalimeroTeknik> take an extract
[16:03] <subz3r0> the buig file is gone. since i wasnt able to do anything with 0 byte space left :/
[16:03] <subz3r0> rm -rf ....
[16:03] <CalimeroTeknik> recursive isn't necessary for one file
[16:03] <CalimeroTeknik> you can just :>file
[16:04] <SolarisBoy> webcams are extremely noisy devices on the usb bus btw -reading your link it seems to be a problem that occurs when things naturally would get noisy "bringing up a VM guest (which may also be trying to reroute usb to ), disconnecting the webcam while it's running "
[16:04] <BluesKaj> subz3r0, autoremove and autoclean is your friend for keeping / to a minimum size
[16:05] <subz3r0> BlueEagle: mhh? have you read my postings above?
[16:05] <subz3r0> without the root console even sudo rm -rf file was not possible...
[16:05] <SolarisBoy> also not running programs that spam your root drive
[16:05] <SolarisBoy> =)
[16:06] <BluesKaj> ok subz3r0 nm , but you mentioned root was getting full
[16:07] <subzero1> http://pastebin.com/b7Kz5CE7
[16:07] <subz3r0> there it is
[16:07] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: plz have a look on it
[16:07] <MonkeyDust> subz3r0  in a terminal, paste this line             find / -size +1G -exec ls -lh {} \; 2>/dev/null
[16:08] <CalimeroTeknik> how do I query for a list of installed packages?
[16:08] <SolarisBoy> dpkg -l
[16:08] <SolarisBoy> CalimeroTeknik: ^
[16:09] <CalimeroTeknik> thanks
[16:09] <subz3r0> MonkeyDust: and thats for? :)
[16:09] <CalimeroTeknik> ah, I have boost 1.46
[16:09] <CalimeroTeknik> and 1.49 installed
[16:09] <CalimeroTeknik> I intended for it to be upgraded
[16:10] <CalimeroTeknik> how can I remove all the 1.46 boost packages?
[16:10] <subz3r0> MonkeyDust: i know which files are > 1gb. The problem is something different ;)
[16:10] <SolarisBoy> subz3r0: seems like verbose logging :shrugs:: like i said thsoe are just a bunch of udev variables that are getting dynamically set on various "events" udev is calling on that tool which adjusts settings on v4l devices. I would inventory that a) my device works , if so i would b) ensure that debug setting you added actually fixed it -
[16:10] <SolarisBoy> and i wouldn't worry about it after that if so..
[16:11] <wheatthin> subz3r0, try using logrotate if logs are getting too big
[16:11] <subz3r0> thanks for the help guys. but thats not the problem ;)
[16:12] <SolarisBoy> IF this is something that just started happening AGAIN - you may want to think that something changed with your camera
[16:12] <subz3r0> the problem is that one file "uvcdynctrl-udev.log" is getting very bug. since im not the only guy who has this problem. it must be a bug somewhere/somehow. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libwebcam/+bug/811604
[16:12] <SolarisBoy> loose connection on the baord - understanding that it is likely a cheap camera and likely to be broken somehow -
[16:12] <SolarisBoy> subz3r0: your not understanding -
[16:12] <SolarisBoy> thats not indicative of a BUG
[16:12] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: the cam is working properly
[16:12] <SolarisBoy> it's an occurence in a program
[16:12] <SolarisBoy> subz3r0: then disable the logging as they advised
[16:13] <SolarisBoy> like i said
[16:13] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: I did not change anything. The problem just came up today
[16:13] <SolarisBoy> then again - check your system
[16:13] <subz3r0> i've also windows running on the machine. also no problem with the cam or other devices
[16:13] <SolarisBoy> windows isn't using generic drivers to run your hardware
[16:14] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: did you read the bug notice @launchpad?
[16:14] <Guest63559> ciao
[16:14] <deletet> hy  i have a ald laptop theati whana instal 13.04 but i ket this error "This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: pae Unable to boot – please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU" how can i install the os ?
[16:14] <SolarisBoy> subz3r0: sure did
[16:14] <Guest63559> !list
[16:14] <SolarisBoy> subz3r0: your approacing this backwards i believe - your symptom - the large file is part of an occurence in a program that is running.
[16:15] <SuperLag> sienez: I'm sorry for the delay. I'm going back and forth between this and work. Check this out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774421/
[16:16] <MonkeyDust> deletet  i sometimes get that error in virtualbox -- are you installing that in virtualbox?
[16:16] <SolarisBoy> i dont know what your hunting down if you have resolved your logging issue and confirmed the web cam works
[16:16] <deletet> no on a real laptop
[16:16] <SuperLag> sienez: You can add more options to that, but that's the bare minimum
[16:16] <sienez> SuperLag, Thanks I'll try!
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> deletet  i guess your pc a 32bit and you want to install 64bit
[16:17] <deletet> MonkeyDust ubuntu-13.04-desktop-i386  is not for 32bit poc?
[16:17] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: checked the dpkg.log - cant find an entry for uvcdynctrl. so what would you do now?
[16:18] <SuperLag> sienez: make sure your .py script has the executable bit set... i.e. chmod +x /usr/local/share/galicaster-1.2.3/run_galicaster.py
[16:18] <SolarisBoy> subz3r0: figure out what uses it...
[16:18] <SolarisBoy> subz3r0: apparently its a dependancy of libwebcam -
[16:18] <sienez> SuperLag, sure does. The desktop link works already, it's just the eyecandy icon thing ;)
[16:19] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: how to figure that out? :)
[16:19] <SolarisBoy> i don't have this installed on my system with attached logitech cams ::shrugs::
[16:19] <SuperLag> sienez: and if that doesn't work, let me know... I'm here to help you figure it out until it works how you like.
[16:19] <SolarisBoy> subz3r0: i ran 'apt-cache show uvcdynctrl'
[16:19] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: it could be from Lxde desktop(since i installed it too) or from the program "motion" which i have installed to.
[16:19] <SolarisBoy> it tells you the source of the package
[16:20] <SolarisBoy> subz3r0: sounds like "motion"
[16:20] <subz3r0> there is an application for webcams within lxde desktop
[16:20] <SolarisBoy> i know..
[16:20] <SolarisBoy> and thats the underlying tool it uses most likely
[16:20] <SolarisBoy> or one
[16:20] <SuperLag> SolarisBoy: looks like you came to your senses :) You should s/SolarisBoy/UbuntuBoy though :)
[16:21] <SolarisBoy> blah
[16:21] <SolarisBoy> i could do UbuntuGuy maybe not UbuntuBoy though
[16:21] <SolarisBoy> doesn't have the same flare
[16:22] <Jordan_U> deletet: http://askubuntu.com/questions/117744/how-can-i-install-on-a-non-pae-cpu-error-kernel-requires-features-not-present
[16:22] <SuperLag> SolarisBoy: I work in a Solaris shop, and I curse under my breath on a regular basis. If I'd have learned Solaris first, and then Linux, it wouldn't be so bad. But since I learned Linux first... going to Solaris feels like stepping back about 15 years.
[16:22] <Deformative> If fstab is on /etc, how do I mount /etc?
[16:22] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: checked with apt-cache show... but nothing about motion, guvcview
[16:23] <wheatthin> lol SuperLag, I started on gentoo.. I know how you feel :)
[16:23] <SuperLag> SolarisBoy: Solaris 11 being the only exception. It feel s more modern.
[16:23] <nait> hello there
[16:23] <SolarisBoy> SuperLag: agreed. on that =)
[16:23] <SuperLag> SolarisBoy: which part? :)
[16:23] <SolarisBoy> for the record i started on Linux based OS also. The Uni where forced upon me
[16:24] <nait> pls some one can tell me how copy a folder with subdirectories and files?
[16:24] <wheatthin> cp -R
[16:24] <subz3r0> cp -R
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> nait: cp -r
[16:24] <llutz> nait: cp -a folder/ target/
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> nait: man cp
[16:24] <nait> lol
[16:24] <subz3r0> heh
[16:24] <nait> thnx
[16:24] <SolarisBoy> SuperLag: that SOL11 is pretty smooth compared to pre 9 versions. actually i'll upgrade that statement and say SOL10 FTW ;> but excuse my OTness
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> SolarisBoy: SOL10 definately ftw :)
[16:25] <SuperLag> wheatthin: Oh... I know a thing or two about Gentoo. Google "Gentoo SuperLag"
[16:25] <Jordan_U> Deformative: I've never heard of someone keeping /etc/ as a separate partition from '/', and the initramfs scripts mount the root FS from the root=UUID= argument on the linux cmdline.
[16:25] <subz3r0> is solaris such a pain in the .... ? atm im dealin with cisco... but its fun :)
[16:25] <SuperLag> SolarisBoy: ActionParsnip: no way. 10 is still a mess. :)
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: Im liking it personally
[16:25] <SolarisBoy> subz3r0: no relation
[16:25] <SuperLag> but for Linux... I'm liking Ubuntu
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> SuperLag: same, and tinycore
[16:25] <SolarisBoy> subz3r0: about as much pain as you make it - if your like me  - oracle support runs when you call...
[16:26] <Jordan_U> !ot
[16:26] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: i dont like rpm based distros
[16:26] <SuperLag> It's not as bare-metal as Gentoo or arch... but I got to the point where tweaking every last piece takes up waaaaaay too much time
[16:26] <Deformative> Jordan_U, I am trying to do that because I have / mounted via nfs.
[16:26] <wheatthin> SuperLag, nice.. me, I was just part of the community, like I am here, but I represent :)
[16:27] <Deformative> Jordan_U, So letting each node have its own /etc would be nice
[16:27] <servercbe> hi! Good morning!... Could somebody helpme? Edubuntu is restarting the thin clients very often
[16:27] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: well... for now i will keep uvcdynctrl and see when it happens again. thank you very much for you assistance. appreciated it :)
[16:27] <Guest63559> ciaoooo a tutti
[16:27] <Guest63559> !list
[16:27] <SolarisBoy> np
[16:28] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: the relation between *nix and cisco is the ioS ;)
[16:28] <subz3r0> doin atm my ccna
[16:28] <servercbe> any suggestion?
[16:29] <servercbe> hi! Good morning!... Could somebody helpme? Edubuntu is restarting the thin clients very often.. any help? please
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> servercbe: test ram is a good start, also check logs
[16:29] <servercbe> The ram is new...
[16:30] <servercbe> how do I check logs?????
[16:30] <subz3r0> servercbe: sudo nano /var/log/logname.log
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> servercbe: look in /var/log at the file, you may also find logs  on the clients themselves
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> subz3r0: users can read most of the files in /var/log :)
[16:31] <subz3r0> ActionParsnip: yep i know. its just a manner ;)
[16:31] <servercbe> I got an empty file
[16:32] <nait> when i do rm -r it's always asking me if i wanna delete the file how can i skyp that?
[16:32] <fm__> hey guys, this started recently. Every time I start up the machine I get "scandisk" and going past that, if I try to cd into some directory, I get "cannot create temp file for ..."
[16:32] <wheatthin> servercbe, /var/log is a directory
[16:32] <loculinux> hj
[16:32] <loculinux> hjg
[16:32] <loculinux> fhj
[16:32] <subz3r0> servercbe: check the syslog, kernellog and maybe dmesg
[16:33] <servercbe> what shoul I see??? sorry .. I am new
[16:33] <subz3r0> servercbe: sudo nano /var/log/syslog
[16:33] <wheatthin> subz3r0, don't want to nano, cat will do fine
[16:34] <jrib> nait: you should understand why it is doing that.  If you do and you're sure you actually want to run the command you typed, you can use -f
[16:34] <subz3r0> wheatthin: do what you want. nano is doin it fine too ;)
[16:34] <wheatthin> subz3r0, might get locked and not allow it to update while in nano
[16:36] <subz3r0> well... 1000 ways lead to rome ... :p
[16:36] <servercbe> ok.... I got alot of info that I cant understand
[16:36] <servercbe> what shoul i look at?
[16:36] <wheatthin> servercbe, what are you looking for
[16:37] <subz3r0> wheatthin: very funny. no idea what he needs BUT .. :P
[16:37] <subz3r0> wheatthin: he got problems while bootin the machine :P
[16:37] <nait> jrib, thnx
[16:37] <servercbe> I need to know why the thin clients are restarting by themselves?
[16:37] <subz3r0> servercbe: use a pastebin service and show us the logs
[16:37] <wheatthin> dmesg for that, but it should give an error
[16:38] <SuperLag> sienez: Did that do the trick?
[16:38] <subz3r0> servercbe: use pastebin.com and show us the logs
[16:39] <basss> hello, how can i execute a custom shell script when a USB device is plugged in ?
[16:39] <SuperLag> Man. A laptop with a lot of RAM makes all the difference when doing VM stuff.
[16:39] <sienez> SuperLag, sorry, I have not yet had the time to try it. Doing 10 things at once ;)
[16:39] <SuperLag> sienez: totally understand :)
[16:39] <sienez> SuperLag, but I saved your paste locally, so I can try later
[16:39] <jrib> !udev | basss
[16:40] <jrib> basss: search the internet for "writing udev rules"
[16:40] <basss> jrib: thanks
[16:40] <servercbe> http://pastebin.com/7VTAHJ3E
[16:41] <servercbe> I pasted
[16:41] <wheatthin> servercbe, you didn't catch it all
[16:41] <servercbe> ops... how do I do cath all?
[16:42] <subz3r0> servercbe: thats all? should be a bit longer :>
[16:42] <subz3r0> also the other logs please. you can use gedit too. if you like a gui based notepad more
[16:42] <wheatthin> servercbe, I'd advise using pastebinit in console
[16:42] <servercbe> how?
[16:43] <subz3r0> gedit /var/log/syslog
[16:43] <OerHeks> !pastebinit
[16:43] <subz3r0> or follow wheatthin guess.. pastebinit is fine :)
[16:43] <wagner> Brasil ??
[16:43] <subz3r0> !br | wagner
[16:44] <servercbe> http://pastebin.com/K776F3Ti
[16:45] <SuperLag> !udev | SuperLag
[16:45] <SuperLag> bummer
[16:45] <ivymike> hablo español
[16:45] <Jordan_U> !es | ivymike
[16:45] <ivymike> je parle français
[16:46] <ivymike> ik spreek nederlands
[16:47] <servercbe> Is there any other info, do you need?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> ivymike, we speak english here
[16:47] <OerHeks> !nl > ivymike
[16:47] <subz3r0> !nl | ivymike
[16:47] <ivymike> how this bot knows what langage I'm speaking ?
[16:47] <subz3r0> ivymike: its a magic ;)
[16:47] <ivymike> Does it look into a dictionnary ?
[16:47] <SolarisBoy> servercbe: i see a lot of messages of your NICs going down/up
[16:48] <servercbe> what it does mean SolarisBoy?
[16:48] <SolarisBoy> servercbe: also see some stuff indicates you share files over the network, i wonder if your system is panicing because of something related to your network issues. - maybe not panic'ing because i see things get HUP'd (gracefully?)
[16:48] <fm__> after a scandisk, it seems to work intermittently
[16:48] <ivymike> let's try an exotic language
[16:48] <fm__> I need to find a permanent fix for this.
[16:48] <ivymike> aful sqip
[16:49] <servercbe> I have been traying to share some file over the network but!  and and use a print share but unfortunatly did not work
[16:50] <ivymike> lol the bot doesn't know every language, once again the man beats the machine
[16:50] <servercbe> ops... and I've been trying to use a print shared
[16:51] <SolarisBoy> looks like you've been also mounting network block devices which may be hanging and rebooting your system
[16:51] <subz3r0> servercbe: did the errors ocure before you tried to share?
[16:51] <servercbe> yes
[16:51] <subz3r0> nbd_server occurs also x times
[16:52] <servercbe> How do I fix that???
[16:52] <SolarisBoy> technically i see one error in your log and it's concerning the X server
[16:52] <SolarisBoy> fix what? what time did your server reboot? dmesg does not generally have spectaccular data on stuff like shudt downs -
[16:52] <SolarisBoy> as the system shut down = your best bet is looking at the data logically and trying to understand what happened around those times
[16:53] <servercbe> has about 9 days doing it.. restarting the thin clients
[16:53] <SolarisBoy> so other than that ERROR in your log - and those network flops - ::shrugs:: not sure
[16:53] <SolarisBoy> if it's restarting ALL the thin clients you should be looking at something more globally no?
[16:53] <SolarisBoy> like the network - which ironically is flipping like hot cakes in your logs
[16:53] <subz3r0> lol :D
[16:54] <ivymike> goeiemorgen
[16:55] <subz3r0> guten morgen ivymike
[16:55] <ivymike> lol i'm trying to understand the bot
[16:55] <SolarisBoy> hmmm your thin clients run DHCP servers on them?
[16:56] <subz3r0> ivymike: if we can see that some guy/girl in here is trying to speak his or her native lang. we use the bot to point them in the right direction
[16:56] <subz3r0> !de | subz3r0
[16:56] <SolarisBoy> servercbe: how do your thin clients configure their network on boot? pxe/dhcp?
[16:56] <subz3r0> !de > subz3r0
[16:57] <servercbe> I think Pxe/ dhco
[16:57] <min|dvir|us> My computer works just fine, and then all of a sudden, everything hangs and I have to reboot. What do I do?
[16:57] <servercbe> in fact that's what i see when they are logging in
[16:57] <SolarisBoy> servercbe: easy then..
[16:57] <servercbe> yes.
[16:57] <SolarisBoy> you have some conflict thats causing them to boot and shut down - it may be a network conflick
[16:58] <subz3r0> min|dvir|us: check the logs in /var/logs also you may want to check your RAM and/or if the cpu temperature is "not" too high
[16:58] <SolarisBoy> so question... do you have multiple nics on your "thin clients" for whatever reason?
[16:58] <ivymike> oh I thought the bot finds out the langage I'm speaking with an algorithme
[16:58] <subz3r0> --> /var/log
[16:58] <min|dvir|us> Whic particular log?
[16:58] <min|dvir|us> *Which
[16:58] <subz3r0> syslog
[16:58] <subz3r0> kernel
[16:59] <subz3r0> check the temperature too
[16:59] <servercbe> each pc only has 1 ethernet
[16:59] <min|dvir|us> I already checked, and I see nothing there.
[16:59] <subz3r0> last one is the first thing that i would do under this circuumstances(summer)
[16:59] <SolarisBoy> servercbe: and if that is the log of a "thin client" you posted - i would wonder why my clients are running dhcp servers - and would question if they are successfully starting and listening for DHCP (broadcast) = then what ranges are being served and if there is a conflict
[16:59] <SolarisBoy> servercbe: ^
[17:00] <min|dvir|us> My temps are fine.
[17:00] <SolarisBoy> another thing you can do which should be native/ monitor the PXE boot messages at the same time monitor the TFTP/PXE service logs on the server side
[17:00] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: isnt the behaviour a way to weird for a ip conflict? even if the ranges are leased by another client.. such a behaviur?
[17:00] <subz3r0> an...
[17:00] <SolarisBoy> no not if your pxe booting..
[17:00] <subz3r0> good to know
[17:00] <SolarisBoy> and nto if when he says he sees the pxe boot stuff on the screen when he gets there
[17:01] <subz3r0> did not read that... preparing my lunch meanwhile :>
[17:01] <SolarisBoy> it sounds like its looping - trying to boot an image and nto working - looking for DHCP and so forth - it could be other things but im saying it would have to be something in common enough to affect each thin client like he mentioned - sounds like the network
[17:01] <subz3r0> im that hungry, i could eat a whole cow :D
[17:01] <SolarisBoy> so if you have multiple dhcps on one network - i can see your pxe halting there and being confused
[17:02] <servercbe> Yes. I see on the screen when is logging in with pxe, and then get an IP, then I got the username screen
[17:02] <SolarisBoy> eating the cow is fine - passing it may get a little crazy
[17:02] <anonymous> hello
[17:02] <SolarisBoy> servercbe: and then you log in and it reboots?
[17:02] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: hrhr
[17:03] <servercbe> not at the moment. take a moment or 10 minutes
[17:03] <servercbe> and then reboot
[17:03] <servercbe> and I got an  username screen again
[17:03] <SolarisBoy> interesting
[17:03] <subz3r0> min|dvir|us: I would check when the problems begin (time) and check the logs for that time
[17:03] <SolarisBoy> servercbe: you will need to gather more data then
[17:03] <SolarisBoy> servercbe: can you recreate the issue?
[17:03] <servercbe> like?
[17:04] <SolarisBoy> servercbe: ^^ and looking at more logs than just one from the time of boot to shutdown
[17:04] <servercbe> any in specific? any command to get that info?
[17:04] <SolarisBoy> tons of them - tail/cat/grep
[17:05] <krzee> im on an ubuntu server with no tun module, anyone know how i can install just the tun module?
[17:05] <SolarisBoy> there is always a tradeoff either you know what your looking for or have an idea
[17:05] <SolarisBoy> in your case i would say you have an idea - i would open my search up to "sudo grep -r error /var/log" and maybe fine tuning the output
[17:06] <definity> how can i see hwat [oprts are open
[17:06] <servercbe> wow!!!!! I got a lot!!!
[17:07] <servercbe> do I need to copy all and paste it?
[17:07] <SolarisBoy> no.. you need to look at it
[17:07] <SolarisBoy> dont get all hyped - its probably mostly not relevant to you - but it's a start
[17:08] <definity> Anyone know how i can see what ports are open in Terminal?
[17:08] <SolarisBoy> netstat
[17:08] <definity> thanks
[17:08] <wheatthin> netstat -a
[17:08] <SolarisBoy> lsof  | ss
[17:08] <wheatthin> :)
[17:08] <definity> dammit, i feel stupid now, ofcourse.
[17:08] <SolarisBoy> dont
[17:08] <krzee> netstat -ln
[17:09] <servercbe> /var/log/kern.log.1:Jun 14 09:21:49 servercbe kernel: [ 8696.769637] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Unhandled error code
[17:10] <SolarisBoy> *thats not neccessarily bad*
[17:10] <servercbe> /var/log/kern.log.1:Jun 14 09:39:04 servercbe kernel: [ 9731.144603] ri-li[21486]: segfault at 8 ip 000000000040b6ad sp 00007ffff70c4fd0 error 4 in ri-li[400000+10000]
[17:10] <SolarisBoy> oh nice there you go
[17:10] <SolarisBoy> also not neccearsily it - but its a crash of something.
[17:10] <subz3r0> netstat tulpen :>
[17:10] <subz3r0> i love it :P
[17:10] <SolarisBoy> thats not today though so bleh
[17:10] <SolarisBoy> i like netstat pony =)
[17:11] <SolarisBoy> i call it pony but it's netstat -pone
[17:11] <subz3r0> yeh :P
[17:11] <servercbe> /var/log/Xorg.1.log:	(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[17:11] <SolarisBoy> i actually see these things to co workers and it bugs then out "sure just type netstat pony."
[17:12] <subz3r0> tulpen = tulips.. thats why :)
[17:12] <SolarisBoy> then you see some guy at the console getting some error cause they really typed pony on the terminal
[17:12] <servercbe> netstat?
[17:12] <subz3r0> servercbe: nono.. that wasnt for you =)
[17:12] <servercbe> oh, ok...
[17:12] <SolarisBoy> i watched this one guy do "pseudo reboot" i lold
[17:12] <SPV2008> I'm currently running ubuntu 13.04, although i still had the issue with ubuntu 12.10. My touchpad keeps not responding to clicks, whether it is tapping the touchpad or clicking the button. If i leave it a while, it sometimes keeps responding and if i restart the computer or log out and back in, it starts responding again. Its an old laptop (about 6-7 years old), so i think its probably a driver issue. Can anyone help?
[17:13] <subz3r0> sounds like the guy whos searchin for the "any key" key :P
[17:13] <SolarisBoy> saw another guy have a hissy fit cause he couldn't fine the "pseudo" command..
[17:13] <SolarisBoy> lol
[17:13] <SPV2008> I think my clicks might be getting stuck on something and then thats interfering, but...it only stops when i log out and back in.
[17:13] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy: there is a ring belling here.... maybe powertop could have something to do with my issue?
[17:14] <servercbe> Ok... I have class now.. I will comeback as soon as possible... Thanks!
[17:14] <subz3r0> servercbe: ciao
[17:14] <SolarisBoy> powertop causing your issue with your webcam?
[17:15] <subz3r0> lets see what happens when i run powertop with this damn cam
[17:15] <subz3r0> im not exactly sure.
[17:16] <subz3r0> hmm
[17:17] <subz3r0> the file is gettin bigger... very slowly but ..
[17:18] <subz3r0> its almost pretty amazing all the time... when i get some erros... its something special :P
[17:18] <subz3r0> +r
[17:18] <SolarisBoy> you would probably be better off running udevadm monitor on the webcam to see what events it's starting up thats causing the logging
[17:18] <narcos> Hi. I'm making a setup.sh file, which will apt-get install packages, as well as wget and compile some. How can I tell the entire script to exit if at one point something fails?
[17:19] <narcos> Do I need to check the result code for every action?
[17:19] <SolarisBoy> narcos: exit <number> people generally make it non-zero
[17:19] <SolarisBoy> narcos: you really should @question 2
[17:20] <subz3r0> will check that tomorrow or at the weekend. im pretty done for today... 9 hours with our drill instructor for the ccna is way enuff ;)
[17:20] <narcos> SolarisBoy: ok
[17:20] <subz3r0> now dinner then zZZzZ
[17:20] <subz3r0> ;>
[17:20] <SolarisBoy> k
[17:20]  * narcos finds http://www.thinkplexx.com/learn/snippet/shell/advanced/automatically-install-package-with-apt-get-install-clean-exit-if-it-fails
[17:21] <joffrey_> salut !
[17:22] <subz3r0> narcos: #bash is always a good place to idle when trying to get things done with scripts :>
[17:22] <SPV2008> anyone know anywhere i can go to try to fix my problem?
[17:23] <SolarisBoy> narcos: that should work fine. you can reuse that function after the important parts of your script
[17:23] <narcos> SolarisBoy: OK cool
[17:23] <rhizome> SPV2008: google? if it's a driver issue then see if anybody else has a problem with the same hw you have.
[17:23] <narcos> subz3r0: k ta :)
[17:23] <bennypr0fane> hi could someone take a look at this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/305417/adobe-flash-plugin-no-full-screen  My question is actually, how can a make a command-line application autostart (or get this Flash problem actually resolved, instead of that workaround)?
[17:24] <rhizome> SPV2008: "touchpad on old computer" isn't really very descriptive, and at any rate isn't something random people are going to go "oh hey, yeah, that's this one thing."
[17:24] <SolarisBoy> narcos: many ways for something like devilspie you may want to run it once the display manager is "started"
[17:24] <bennypr0fane> SPV2008, you gotta be inventive with the search terms
[17:25] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, were you talking to me there?
[17:25] <SolarisBoy> narcos: so you may want to use upstart to just spawn the command the way you need it - you can and may also be able to use rc.local to spawn the same command
[17:25] <SPV2008> I've explained my issue, what more do you need me to say?
[17:25] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: yes sorry.
[17:25] <SPV2008> i'll explain what you need.
[17:25] <bennypr0fane> bcs my question involves devilspie
[17:25] <SPV2008> i've also searched on google.
[17:26] <SPV2008> and no solutions at all.
[17:26] <subz3r0> SPV2008: you gave us almost zero information
[17:26] <bennypr0fane> SPV2008, which terms have you tried?
[17:26] <ionelmc> hello
[17:26] <narcos> SolarisBoy: I've been learning about and using upstart this week - awesome tool
[17:26] <SPV2008> I've searched for click not working ubuntu, mouse sticking ubuntu, just various terms relating to those.
[17:26] <subz3r0> SPV2008: or did i skipped the info? Which laptop is it?
[17:26] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, just tell me the way you would know in most detail
[17:26] <SPV2008> I didn't say what type of computer it was, but i explained my problem in detail. Its a Lenovo 3000 N100
[17:26] <ionelmc> any idea how can i get a 3.9 kernel on precise with aufs mod without having to compile it myself ?
[17:27] <subz3r0> SPV2008: maybe it could be important to know which pc it is
[17:27] <SPV2008> I'll copy and paste my problem again if you want.
[17:27] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: i know each in detail each is super simple
[17:27] <SPV2008> I'm currently running ubuntu 13.04, although i still had the issue with ubuntu 12.10. My touchpad keeps not responding to clicks, whether it is tapping the touchpad or clicking the button. If i leave it a while, it sometimes keeps responding and if i restart the computer or log out and back in, it starts responding again. Its an old laptop (about 6-7 years old), so i think its probably a driver issue.
[17:27] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, shoot
[17:27] <SolarisBoy> if you want to just slap it in there throw it in rc.local
[17:27] <SolarisBoy> if you want to do it right do it in upstart
[17:27] <subz3r0> SPV2008: but if its a driver issue, its essential to know which hardware it is. You may want to check dmesg
[17:27] <bennypr0fane> whatever is safer to work
[17:27] <SolarisBoy> the command i'll leave to you to put together one sec ill paste you something
[17:27] <SPV2008> kk. one moment.
[17:28] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774614/
[17:28] <SPV2008> Oh, hmm. it says in dmesg that its losing sync
[17:28] <SPV2008> it says it lost sync at byte 1 and byte 4
[17:28] <bennypr0fane> SPV2008, you should find out what specific build your hardware is. The touchpad not working, is it?
[17:28] <SolarisBoy> that is a simple one that starts my git daemon - you could literally replace the last 3 lines with one line .
[17:28] <SPV2008> its partially working
[17:29] <SPV2008> it seems like it occasionally sticks, or the mouse skips around the screen a bit erratically.
[17:29] <SPV2008> and when it does, i have to relog to get it working again
[17:29] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: that line would be - exec su - <user> -c "devilspie"
[17:29] <subz3r0> SPV2008: did you check to turn off the powersavemode? a friend of mine got an issue like that ages ago
[17:29] <SolarisBoy> fill in user with who you want to run devilspie as
[17:29] <SPV2008> Where do i do that?
[17:30] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, no need for "script" and end script"?
[17:30] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: nope
[17:30] <SolarisBoy> in your case i don't see why atleast
[17:30] <SolarisBoy> in fact i dont need it either =)
[17:31] <jakey1> I am getting an error that says Error splicing file: File too large?
[17:31] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, so I insert this in upstart?
[17:32] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: now once you have that filled in - you may want to look at man-upstart-events - and get your "start on" line to start on the event emitted when your display manager has succesfully started - this way you get 'display startup invokes->devils pie run'
[17:32] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: you make that a file somewhere under /etc/init/ with the suffix .conf
[17:32] <subz3r0> SPV2008: i have a no english version running here... should be something like Power Settings
[17:32] <fm__> ok this is happening while the machine started and was running fine. Basically the problem when I try to cd, it says "cannot create temp file for here ..."
[17:32] <spaghetto> list
[17:32] <jakey1> anyone?
[17:32] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, so new file, not existing one?
[17:32] <fm__> ok this is happening while the machine started and was running fine. Basically the problem when I try to cd, it says "cannot create temp file for here ..."
[17:33] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: for instance /etc/init/test.conf would make a service you can now manage like "start test;status test;restart test;stop test"
[17:33] <minidino> If I were to compile something via make on a computer running ubuntu, would it theoretically run on another computer running ubuntu?
[17:33] <fm__> sorry - reposted
[17:33] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: new file
[17:33] <bennypr0fane> jakey1 where exactly are you getting that error, what are you trying to do in which program in which OS etc.etc..... blah
[17:34] <SPV2008> I've looked at the power settings and it just has lid closing and stuff in it
[17:34] <jakey1> ubuntu 12.04 copying files to a usb
[17:34] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, I need to make that executable after, yes?
[17:34] <subz3r0> SPV2008: check your acpi settings. maybe turn it completely off and check again
[17:34] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: no
[17:34] <subz3r0> SPV2008: its just a guess
[17:34] <SPV2008> apparently...acpi isn't installed.
[17:34] <SPV2008> hmm
[17:34] <SPV2008> should i install it?
[17:35] <bennypr0fane> like sudo mkfile /etc/init/devilspie.conf?
[17:35] <subz3r0> its not? hmm
[17:35] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: sudo vim /etc/init/devilspie.conf
[17:35] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: then start by copy/paste the contents of that post - next edit to be correct
[17:35] <subz3r0> SPV2008: did you check which touchpad it is(dmesg) and searched for errors of it?
[17:36] <bennypr0fane> what's vim?
[17:36] <subz3r0> vim is an editor
[17:36] <subz3r0> text editor
[17:36] <SPV2008> yeah, it says it was out of sync at byte 1 and
[17:36] <SPV2008> 4
[17:36] <subz3r0> SPV2008: no, check what vendor it is and search for issues
[17:36] <bennypr0fane> subz3r0, maybe lshw to take a closer look a that touchpad?
[17:37] <rhizome> SPV2008: this is going back a bit, but if your touchpad isn't working, why do you search for "mouse sticking?"
[17:37] <subz3r0> rhizome: good point =)
[17:37] <SPV2008> it is partially working.
[17:37] <SPV2008> what happens is, sometimes i'm in an app and then the click ends up not working
[17:37] <subz3r0> im switchin to the kitchen all the time while preparing lunch... so did not read everything ;)
[17:37] <SPV2008> the click seems to sometimes get stuck, i.e. on toggles and stuff.
[17:37] <SPV2008> or drop down boxes
[17:37] <SPV2008> from what i see anyway.
[17:37] <S23PE> I cannot make my resolution to stick in Ubuntu with internal intel graphics can anyone help?
[17:37] <SPV2008> yet there's nothing wrong with the actual touchpad.
[17:38] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, turns out I don't have vim, some other editor? I'm Lubuntu 13.04
[17:38] <SolarisBoy> vi
[17:38] <SolarisBoy> remove the m
[17:38] <SolarisBoy> or nano or gedit - whatever works for you
[17:38] <subz3r0> SPV2008: check which manufacturer it is and search for issues with this product...
[17:39] <bennypr0fane> ah nano that's what I couldn't remember
[17:39] <SolarisBoy> if you use anything graphical use gksudo
[17:39] <SolarisBoy> i always forget nano
[17:39] <SolarisBoy> on purpose..
[17:39] <SPV2008> where would i look to find the manufacturer of the touchpad?
[17:39] <SPV2008> i THINK its synaptics, but not entirely sure.
[17:39] <fm__> hey, anyone have ideas with my system drive becoming "read-only".
[17:39] <fm__> ?
[17:40] <bennypr0fane> I didn't know you could just create a file just by adding the path to the command
[17:40] <OerHeks> SPV2008, try lshw in terminal
[17:40] <S23PE> I am able to change resolution for my monitor but I cant make it stick.....I have tried reading about Xorg but I can't make heads or tails of it..new to Linux
[17:40] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: most of the cli text editors allow you to do this
[17:40] <bennypr0fane> fm__ yeah, that must be bcs you can't write :-D
[17:40] <SolarisBoy> SPV2008: you can also try to walk the udev attributes if it's not in lshw/lspci outputs
[17:41] <bennypr0fane> OerHeks, maybe lshw with an option that's reduce the output for an easier search?
[17:41] <subz3r0> SPV2008: synaptic is a package manger. with this one you can install/uninstall software... like apt-get...
[17:41] <rhizome> he's talking about synaptics with an 's', who is/was a touchpad manu
[17:41] <SolarisBoy> fm__: this is on your root disk? have you tried to check the file system consistency with fsck?
[17:41] <SPV2008> touchpad isn't listed.
[17:41] <SPV2008> No, synaptics touchpad. Not the package manager.
[17:42] <SPV2008> synaptics is a touchpad manufacturer.
[17:42] <fm__> SolarisBoy: yeah root disk
[17:42] <subz3r0> SPV2008: good to know. i know only "synaptic" :>
[17:42] <SolarisBoy> fm__: have you run fsck against the disk?
[17:42] <fm__> I thought it was a bad idea to run fsck on mounted disk -
[17:42] <SolarisBoy> SPV2008: you mean literally the touch pad on your laptop and not a connected device?
[17:42] <fm__> SolarisBoy: should I run fsck on mounted disk
[17:42] <fm__> ?
[17:42] <SPV2008> Yeah.
[17:42] <SolarisBoy> like the way IBM's use synaptic touch pads?
[17:43] <SolarisBoy> fm__: no you should boot into recovery mode and do it
[17:43] <SPV2008> its not connected. its built into it.
[17:43] <SolarisBoy> fm__: in fact you cant run fsck on a mounted disk
[17:43] <SolarisBoy> SPV2008: and it's not working?
[17:43] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, vi looks funny there's just a lot of ~~~
 that is what I thought
[17:44] <SolarisBoy> indicative of an empty file
[17:44] <SPV2008> Well, after a while the click stops working (both tapping it and the button), but it seems like it sticks in a certain part because sometimes if i move the mouse over the toggle when the click isn't working, it flips the toggle
[17:44] <SPV2008> i have to relog to fix it
[17:44] <SPV2008> then it happens again after a while.
[17:44] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: vi has a set of commands that govern it - you may wnt to try nano if your not familiar = if you want to take a dive
[17:44] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: type "i" to actually insert text
[17:44] <bennypr0fane> naaah, this is nonsense. It makes As and Bs when I press cursor keys no thanks
[17:44] <subz3r0> SPV2008: "dmesg | grep pad" found my Elantech Tpichpad ETPS/2
[17:45] <subz3r0> Touch...
[17:45] <SPV2008> yeah, its a synaptics touchpad.
[17:45] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: :set nocompatible most likely will fix that
[17:45] <bennypr0fane> using nano
 - so when I restart - how do I get into recovery mode /
[17:45] <SolarisBoy> sure
[17:45] <SolarisBoy> the dry hump of text editors.
[17:45] <whoever> hi all i am try to start vmware worakstation, and i got a propt asking for the generic header location, witch i supplied. but now it is looking for c header files, where would i find those
[17:45] <SolarisBoy> fm__: it should be a boot option
[17:45] <SPV2008> model 1. daammnn, thats old. lol.
[17:45] <fm__> thanks =
[17:46] <fm__> trying to figure it out
[17:46] <whoever> because wouldn't they had already been installed with build-essentials
[17:46] <SolarisBoy> fm__: you may also be able to append "single" to your grub.cfg line run update-grub and that should boot you into single user mode
[17:48] <rohanb_> I messed up my wifi router and can't get it back :-(. I am not sue what I did. I can see the network, it tries to connect but after initilaizing the interface it disconnects, help please
[17:49] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, it now looks like this: start on startup (new line) stop on runlevel [016] (new line) respawn (new line) exec su - <ben> -c "devilspie"
[17:50] <rohanb_> any suggestions for what channel may be able to help?
[17:50] <bennypr0fane> should work, right?
[17:50] <SolarisBoy> dont see why not - you should test it before you finalize it though
[17:51] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, what's a "dryhump" (dosn't seem to make sense for a computer program, haha)?  how can I test it beforehand?
[17:51] <spaghetto> come chiedere la lista
[17:52] <SolarisBoy> its nano
[17:52] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: sudo start devilspie (or whatever you named that file - the .conf part)
[17:52] <bennypr0fane> rohanb_ sounds like you need to get access to the router's configuration panel
[17:52] <SolarisBoy> after that monitor your desktop to see if the devilspie rules are active - or just run ps auxwww and check if it is running in the background - then stop it and confirm the process is gone - test complete
[17:53] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, system monitor should list the process after I started it, right?
[17:53] <DJones> spaghetto: A list of what? You can download Ubuntu from  www.ubuntu.com, if you're looking for a list of channels on the freenode network, please use !alis as a command
[17:53] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: ps auxwww|grep devilspie
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> thats probably much quicker especially right after you started it in the same terminal
[17:54] <bennypr0fane> oh my, I'm in a command-line-only thread again...
[17:54] <SolarisBoy> pgrep devilspie even (i hate seeing the grep of grep)
[17:54] <bennypr0fane> HAHAHA
[17:55] <CanWasp> Can anyone guide me with some help to make a Xorg.conf file so I can make my monitor resolution stick...I've been stumped for 2 days now
[17:55] <rohanb_> bennypr0fane: I did, everything seems setup fine, Broadcasting the SSID, radio is on, wpa-wpa2 personal is set, password is correct
[17:55] <fabio> !list
[17:55] <adamk_> CanWasp: What resolution do you want?
[17:55] <spaghetto> sono nuovo come mi muovo
[17:55] <_userr> how to find string in all files in my folder with recursive using bash?,
[17:56] <SolarisBoy> grep -r user82_ ^^
[17:56] <DJones> !it | spaghetto
[17:56] <SolarisBoy> grep -r "string" . (search current directory recursively)
[17:56] <CanWasp> adamk: I have been able to set it to 1440x900_60.00 but can't make it stick after reboots
[17:56] <spaghetto> grazie
[17:56] <_userr> solarisboy thank you,.
[17:56] <adamk_> CanWasp: Does 1440x900 show up as an available resolution, by default, when running 'xrandr' in a terminal window?
[17:56] <SolarisBoy> yw
[17:58] <CanWasp> adamk_: No..currently unknown monitor default is 1024x768...1440x900 only shows up after I the newmode command
[17:58] <adamk_> Gotcha...  So at least you know the modeline you have to use...  Give me a second.
[17:58] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774714/
[17:58] <adamk_> CanWasp: What is the output name for that monitor?
[17:59] <CanWasp> adamk_: I dont understand your question
[17:59] <wheatthin> CanWasp, you can find out by issueing   xrandr   in console
[17:59] <adamk_> CanWasp: Your monitor has name... DVI-0, HDMI-0, VGA-0, DFP1, etc...  xrandr will tell you.
[17:59] <CanWasp> adamk_ : Ah yes sorry, it is VGA1
[18:00] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: remove the diamonds from your user name
[18:00] <adamk_> CanWasp: And what's the modeline you create?
[18:00] <SolarisBoy> exec su - ben -c "devilspie" (that was part of the information to remove , sorry)
[18:01] <bennypr0fane> rohanb_, I searched freenode for "networking", there is a channel by that name ##networking that could be useful .lots of people there
[18:01] <CanWasp> adamk_: Modeline "1440x900_60.00"  106.50  1440 1528 1672 1904  900 903 909 934 -hsync +vsync
[18:01] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, I'm ashamed
[18:01] <z_-> had a question regarding Ubuntu 10.3. I have a Vizio Laptop ultrabook (i don't think the laptop has anything special in terms of components) and i was looking to put linux on it instead of win8 (for smoother experience and also because win8 was corrupt on arrival of the laptop). Do I have to do any special procedure to make sure everything works? Sound, wifi, etc ?
[18:01] <adamk_> CanWasp: Then this should be the Monitor section of your xorg.conf file...  It's likely the only section you need: http://pastebin.com/ZwB78MPt
[18:02] <Fonsie1990> so i put ubuntu 12.04 on a bootable usb drive and when i try to boot from it i get the ubuntu boot/install menu but no matter what option select it reboots and wants to boot from the usb drive and keeps bringing up the menu
[18:02] <adamk_> CanWasp: You can probably just take that and create /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/monitor.conf
[18:02] <CanWasp> adamk_: Yes I'm that should be the only config I need...but I can't find..nor seem to be able to create an xorg.conf file
[18:03] <_userr> solarisboy and how to spesific just for *.txt file ?
[18:03] <Fonsie1990> also, my computer does not have any OS on it right now
[18:04] <adamk_> CanWasp: Just do what I said...  Take those lines and create /usr/share/X1/xorg.conf.d/monitor.conf
[18:04] <SolarisBoy> with grep recursively you can't really you can use find though
[18:05] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, why does it say "unknown job"? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774727/
[18:05] <SolarisBoy> thats not how to start it
[18:05] <SolarisBoy> just sudo start devilspie
[18:05] <bennypr0fane> oh
[18:05] <Znoosey> !list
[18:05] <CanWasp> adamk_: I am new to linux...how do I create files?  I dont know what to do with that? Copy and paste it into Libre Office and save from there?
[18:05] <SolarisBoy> user82_: find . -name \*txt -exec grep "pattern" '{}' \;
[18:06] <Fonsie1990> so i put ubuntu 12.04 on a bootable usb drive and when i try to boot from it i get the ubuntu boot/install menu but no matter what option select it reboots and wants to boot from the usb drive and keeps bringing up the menu
[18:06] <SolarisBoy> ^^ find files suffixed with txt recursively and grep within them for pattern
[18:06] <SolarisBoy> _userr: find . -name \*txt -exec grep "pattern" '{}' \;
[18:06] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, but won't that just start devil's pie in a regular way? and not the script I made?
[18:07]  * SolarisBoy has no clue what you mean
[18:07] <adamk_> CanWasp: Run 'gksu gedit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/monitor.conf'.  Then copy and paste those lines into that file and save it.
[18:07] <SolarisBoy> start devilspie will start whats defined in /etc/init/devilspie.conf
[18:07] <_userr> solarisboy thx,. i will try it,
[18:07] <bennypr0fane> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774740/
[18:07] <roasted> hello!
[18:08] <SolarisBoy> whats the name of your file within /etc/init/ ?
[18:08] <CanWasp> adamk_: from the command line it says gsku is not installed
[18:08] <roasted> I just installed 12.04 onto a Lenovo laptop. I also installed from the repos linux-image-generic-lts-raring. This brought my kernel to 3.8.0-25, which I wanted, however I lost my wireless. I went into additional drivers and tried to (over hardwire) install Broadcom STA. It keeps failing to install. How can I get this rolling?
[18:08] <SolarisBoy> CanWasp: gksu
[18:08] <adamk_> CanWasp: It's gksu, not gsku.
[18:09] <Fonsie1990> so i put ubuntu 12.04 on a bootable usb drive and when i try to boot from it i get the ubuntu boot/install menu but no matter what option select it reboots and wants to boot from the usb drive and keeps bringing up the same menu
[18:09] <CanWasp> adamk_:  gksu gedit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/monitor.conf The program 'gksu' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install gksu shaun@shaun-To-be-filled-by-O-E-M:~$ apt-get install gksu E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[18:09] <rosco_y> I'm using 13.04 with an NVIDIA card, and my screen geometry needs a little tweaking--should Install native NVIDIA drivers?
[18:10] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: can you post the contents of the init file you created and ping the name of it in here?
[18:10] <adamk_> CanWasp: Odd, I thought it was installed by default.  Using Unity? In either case, you can install it.
[18:11] <CanWasp> adamk_: I have no idea...2 days with Linux....downloaded Ubuntu 13.04...just trying to get proper resolution to stick so I can actually read things on my screen and learn about Ubuntu
[18:11] <adamk_> CanWasp: Oh, I see, you tried and got permission denied.
[18:11] <Fonsie1990> can anybody help me with ubuntu installation?
[18:11] <adamk_> CanWasp: Run 'sudo apt-get install gksu'
[18:12] <adamk_> CanWasp: It will then ask you for your password.  After installing gksu, run 'gksu gedit /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/monitor.conf'
[18:13] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, by "ping the name of it", you mean paste a link? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774750/
[18:13] <Slart> Fonsie1990: what seems to be the problem?
[18:14] <bennypr0fane> its name is etc/init/devilspie.conf
[18:14] <bennypr0fane> Slart he described his problem a bit above
[18:15] <houkouonchi-home> Anyone know how to remove a package via aptitude and have it *not* run the post-remove scripts?
[18:15] <CanWasp> adamk_: Ok that is all done..and in the usr/share/x11/ xorg.conf.d/monitor.conf file with that info pasted...do I just reboot?
[18:15] <bennypr0fane> ...but it seems Fonsie1990 is gone now
 I did run recovery mode fsck
[18:15] <fm__> now the graphics is messed up
[18:16] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: remove that colon from 'description: run devil's pie on startup'
[18:16] <SolarisBoy> and try again
[18:16] <fm__> but more importantly still getting "cannot create temp file here-document: Read-only file system"
[18:16] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, or just remove the descrition entirely?
[18:17] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: no.. just dont use things that break whats expected
[18:17] <SolarisBoy> like colons where the delimeter is space
[18:17] <SolarisBoy> fm__: was the fsck successful? what arguments did you use? output of df -ah ? any errors in logs?
[18:18] <SolarisBoy> fm__: are you installing ruby using rvm?
 I run it in the recovery mode on boot up, so no argument passed, but said it was successful
[18:18] <fm__> yes - I am using ruby rvm
 please note, it is 13.04
[18:19] <SolarisBoy> fm__: make sure your /tmp directory is (on the same mount as /, not a tmpfs or some other type of ramfs) and ensure it has permissions...
[18:20] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, what's a delimeter?
 I believe that is the problem, as one of the previous messages said, cannot load /tmp or something like that
 can you tell me how to make sure ?
[18:20] <SolarisBoy> fm__: fix/check permissions
[18:20] <SolarisBoy> fm__: ls to check  chmod if needed to fix
[18:21] <rosco_y> bennypr0fane: I usually think of delimiters as characters that define the beginning and ending of fields.
[18:21] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: some other type of ramfs) and ensure it has permissions... ( 14:20  bennypr0f )
[18:21] <SolarisBoy> grr
 i am in temp, shows it is owned by root , permissions are 777
[18:21] <fm__> and shows t at the end...
[18:21] <rosco_y> For example, spreadsheets usually can export to comma-delimitted fields, and the column fields are separated by commas ','.
[18:22] <bennypr0fane> umm, what?
[18:22] <SolarisBoy> dont confuse your self
[18:22] <SolarisBoy> remove the colon
[18:22] <GeorgeTorwell> Does anyone here use full disk encryption?
[18:22] <rosco_y> not me....
[18:22] <GeorgeTorwell> Can you install /grub on an /dev/sda if the whole disk has been used for full disk encryption during setup?
[18:22] <Pici> !who
[18:23] <jrib> houkouonchi-home: why do you want to do this?
[18:23] <bennypr0fane> here we go again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774776/ btw I can't tell from the output of that ps whether devil's pie is running or not, it's all greek to me
[18:23] <houkouonchi-home> jrib: because i need to free disk space (100-200GB) by uninstalling 80+ kernels that are installed and I don't want it to take hours while it re-does the grub updates for each one
[18:24] <houkouonchi-home> jrib: I want it to just remove them and i will manually do an update-grub after
[18:24] <ipfaffy> GeorgeTorwell: I wouold say probably not, but that is only a gut feeling, not an experience thing
 any ideas ? /tmp shows owned by root and permissions are set to 777+t
[18:24] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: do this please ls -ltrh /etc/init/devilspie.conf and let me know if you get any error
[18:24] <GeorgeTorwell> thats what I think too but I tried it for server edition, it refused to install grub but im wondering if thats because sda was not marked bootable
[18:24] <GeorgeTorwell> I thought the entire point of FDE is that the kernel and /boot are also encrypted, except for a small unencrypted bootloader used to decrypt everything else
[18:24] <SolarisBoy> that file should work if it's there otherwise - i hope you removed the colon - because thats breaking it if not
[18:25] <bennypr0fane> GeorgeTorwell, my gut feeling is probably yes, bcs I wouldn't expect the master boot record to be encrypted as well. again, not from experience - just a guess
[18:25] <houkouonchi-home> jrib what I can do now is rename the grub-mkconfig temporarily and stuff and make it run but I would really rather not do that.
[18:25] <GeorgeTorwell> of course the mbr can't be encrypted
[18:25] <jrib> houkouonchi-home: involving the kernel, I believe there are "special" hooks.  Let me search; one second
[18:25] <Fonsie1990> so i put ubuntu 12.04 on a bootable usb drive and when i try to boot from it i get the ubuntu boot/install menu but no matter what option select it reboots and wants to boot from the usb drive and keeps bringing up the same menu
[18:26] <GeorgeTorwell> but /boot should be right? otherwise an attacker can just replace your /boot with whatever he wants
[18:26] <houkouonchi-home> jrib: thanks
[18:26] <ipfaffy> bennypr0fane: that ps is only showing the grep process as running, not showing anything else called devilspie running, btw
[18:26] <Somethingnicer> on a scale from papercut to hindenburg, how dangerous is it to shrink a windows partition that's half empty via gparted??
[18:26] <jrib> houkouonchi-home: http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-update-hooks.html that probably tells you want you need
[18:26] <iceroot> Somethingnicer: just make a backup first
[18:26] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, ~$  ls -ltrh /etc/init/devilspie.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 119 Jun 17 20:20 /etc/init/devilspie.conf again no idea what this is upposed to tell me
[18:27] <iceroot> Somethingnicer: normally it should be fine without issues, did that already multiple times
[18:27] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: repost the contents of the file so i can verify your edit
[18:27] <Fonsie1990> is anybody able to help me with ubuntu install?
[18:27] <iceroot> !ask | Fonsie1990
[18:28] <Fonsie1990> so i put ubuntu 12.04 on a bootable usb drive and when i try to boot from it i get the ubuntu boot/install menu but no matter what option select it reboots and wants to boot from the usb drive and keeps bringing up the menu
[18:28] <Somethingnicer> iceroot; did you have to do anything in particular to the windows partition prior to the shrink? I've cleaned it, defragged and disabled page file already
[18:28] <iceroot> Somethingnicer: no i was just resizing it
[18:28] <Somethingnicer> fair enough
[18:28] <bennypr0fane> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774800/
[18:28] <iceroot> Somethingnicer: but i made a backup first
[18:29] <Somethingnicer> yeah that's always a good idea
[18:29] <iceroot> Somethingnicer: not only when resizing :)
[18:29] <Somethingnicer> don't have any backup with me at the moment though, so this 22GB partition is going to suffice for now..
[18:34] <MOUD> Hey all
[18:35] <Fonsie1990> so i put ubuntu 12.04 on a bootable usb drive and when i try to boot from it i get the ubuntu boot/install menu but no matter what option select it reboots and wants to boot from the usb drive and keeps bringing up the menu
[18:36] <bennypr0fane> Fonsie1990, could you describe that more precisely? what do you mean by "it want to boot from usb"? That's what you want it to do., right?
[18:36] <bennypr0fane> I mean if it keeps rebooting instead of executing the option you chose from the menu, that probably means the boot medium is corrupted
[18:37] <stelthpanther> Fonsie1990: how did you image the flash drive?
[18:37] <Fonsie1990> it boots into "Installer boot menu" and when i select " Install Ubuntu on a hard disk" it reboots the computer and goes back into the boot menu once again
[18:37] <stelthpanther> ok
[18:37] <MOUD> I just installed ubuntu on my flash drive and when loading it says that it cannot identify my graphics card. I have have 4 options to chose but I cant chose any (only the default one). How can I fit it?
[18:37] <Fonsie1990> ive tried using both unetbootin and universal usb installer
[18:38] <DGodNT> Did you guys see this, pretty cool project, works on the ubuntu phone too http://kck.st/14HSLys
[18:38] <stelthpanther> Fonsie1990: did you check the boot medium at the boot screen.
[18:38] <bennypr0fane> Fonsie1990, did you check the download with a checksum?
[18:39] <Fonsie1990> stelthpanther: what do you mean
[18:39] <Fonsie1990> bennypr0fane: no
[18:39] <stelthpanther> at the usb boot menu there should be a check disk option
[18:39] <bennypr0fane> stelthpanther, it seems to me like if all the boot options fail like Fonsie1990 said, the check boot menu option fails as well
[18:39] <stelthpanther> it will test to see if what you downloaded is corrupted.
[18:39] <Fonsie1990> the one that goes into memtest86+?
[18:40] <bennypr0fane> Fonsie1990, no
[18:40] <stelthpanther> Fonsie1990: the check disk option
[18:40] <bennypr0fane> memtest sounds like the actual grub boot menu
[18:40] <Fonsie1990> i dont see it, i am currently trying the universal usb installer which has a different boot menu
[18:41] <bennypr0fane> or can you run memtest also from a installer medium?
[18:41] <bennypr0fane> Fonsie1990, check the downloaded image first
[18:41] <bennypr0fane> then mount it to the flash drive
[18:41] <bennypr0fane> then check that
[18:41] <stelthpanther> Did you use the checksum to check what you downloaded?
[18:42] <bennypr0fane> Fonsie1990, do you now where to find the hashes?
[18:42] <Fonsie1990> my options are as follows "Run Ubuntu from this USB" "install ubuntu on a hard disk" "test memory" "boot from first hard disk"
[18:42] <Fonsie1990> no
[18:42] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, did you see my post?
[18:42] <six_storm> hello everyone.  can anyone help me with some BIND9 setup?
[18:42] <Fonsie1990> i am very new to linux, ive always been a windows person but for some reason windows isnt wanting to work so figured id try linux
[18:43] <bennypr0fane> Fonsie1990, give me the link of the page where you downloaded ubuntu from
[18:43] <stelthpanther> Fonsie1990: you have a different usb install. I would use the checksum to double check what you downloaded
[18:44] <Fonsie1990> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[18:44] <Fonsie1990> what is checksum and how do i do it?
[18:44] <bennypr0fane> 32b it or 64 bit?
[18:45] <Fonsie1990> 32
[18:45] <DJones> !md5sum | Fonsie1990
[18:46] <bennypr0fane> thank you DJones
[18:47] <bennypr0fane> I actually forgot he's probably working from windows
[18:47] <nado> hi
[18:48] <bennypr0fane> Fonsie1990, you need to find a program that can make an md5sum or sha1 or sha256
[18:48] <nado> whats the package which can provide local service to launche /etc/local.d/*.start at the bootup ?
[18:49] <StaticLNX> is there a cli tool to setup networking?
[18:49] <nado> ifconfig
[18:49] <nado> nmcli
[18:49] <nado> wicd-cli
[18:49] <nado> wicd-curse
[18:50] <nado> netcfg
[18:50] <nado> i could name very much :)
[18:50] <nado> what do you need when setup network ?
[18:51] <StaticLNX> they will save settings? dns/mac/ip/etc
[18:51] <nado> StaticLNX: is that for only one profile ?
[18:51] <nado> or more like a laptop ?
[18:51] <StaticLNX> 4
[18:52] <MOUD> When trying to use my usb it says that i dont have the permission necessary to access it (i just installed ubuntu in it but i'm running a bootable ubuntu CD)
[18:52] <nado> StaticLNX: 4 profiles ? Then you might create rules in /etc/network or something like that
[18:53] <nado> or use networkmanager in cli (nmcli) which can store profiles, wicd (same), netcfg
[18:53] <nado> MOUD: are you in group usb ?
[18:53] <StaticLNX> ok
[18:53] <nado> if a group like that exists
[18:54] <MOUD> nado: i have no idea
[18:55] <StaticLNX> any curses frontends to any?
[18:55] <iceroot> 13.04 is already a 9 month-support version? or still 18 month?
[18:55] <DJones> iceroot: 9 mth
[18:56] <iceroot> DJones: thx
[18:57] <bennypr0fane> hello SolarisBoy you still there?
[18:57] <nado> whats the package which can provide local service to launche /etc/local.d/*.start at the bootup ?
[18:57] <nado> MOUD: type groups in a term
[18:57] <jimmy51_> i'm trying to run mkfs.ntfs.  when i do, i get the message "the program 'mkfs.ntfs' is currently not installed.  you can install it by typing sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g.  However, when i apt-get install ntfs-3g I'm told ntfs-3g is already the newest version.  What's up with that?
[18:58] <jrib> nado: what do you want to accomplish exactly?
[18:58] <nado> jimmy51_: lsmod|grep ntfs
[18:58] <jrib> jimmy51_: try "hash -r"
[18:58] <bennypr0fane> anyone care to take a look at this and tell me if it's sane? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774800/
[18:58] <nado> jrib: launch softs like znc by butting small script in /etc/local.d/
[18:58] <nado> actually like i do under my gentoo
[18:58] <jrib> nado: that's probably something gentoo-specific
[18:59] <bennypr0fane> I want to make a program named devil's pie autostart, so I created a file with these contents /etc/init/devilspie.conf
[18:59] <jrib> !boot | nado
[18:59] <nado> ow, /etc/rc.local
[18:59] <jrib> nado: I would suggest either writing an upstart script (see "upstart cookbook") or just use @reboot in your crontab
[18:59] <MOUD> nado: ubuntu adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[18:59] <jimmy51_> nado: didn't return anything
[18:59] <jimmy51_> jrib: didn't return anything
[18:59] <bennypr0fane>  ~$  ls -ltrh /etc/init/devilspie.conf -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 119 Jun 17 20:20 /etc/init/devilspie.conf
[19:00] <nado> jrib: upstart is a bit heavy for small script like znc or iptables
[19:00] <jrib> jimmy51_: it shouldn't
[19:00] <jimmy51_> (should have specified... running 13.04)
[19:00] <jrib> nado: not sure what you mean.  Upstart is how you manage services in ubuntu.  If you don't want to write a proper script, then just use @reboot in crontab (znc docs advise this anyway)
[19:00] <bennypr0fane> I'm trying to solve this problem with devil's pie: http://askubuntu.com/questions/305417/adobe-flash-plugin-no-full-screen
[19:01] <nado> ok, @reboot then
[19:01] <jrib> jimmy51_: hash -r  just refreshes your shell's knowledge about commands
[19:01] <jrib> jimmy51_: do you actually have "/sbin/mkfs.ntfs"?
[19:03] <jimmy51_> ah... ok hang on
[19:04] <jimmy51_> jrib:  i do have a file there... looks like a link to /usr/bsin/mkntfs
[19:04] <jimmy51_> jrib: it's read when I ls -lh though.  not sure what that means
[19:04] <jrib> jimmy51_: well is /sbin in your PATH?
[19:05] <jimmy51_> jrib: according to echo $PATH$, it is
[19:05] <jrib> jimmy51_: and mkfs.ntfs still is not found after you did "hash -r"?
[19:06] <jimmy51_> jrib: correct.
[19:06] <jrib> jimmy51_: can you pastebin your terminal input and output?
[19:07] <nado> jrib: i prefer rc.local rather than crontab
[19:07] <jrib> nado: ok
[19:07] <jimmy51_> jrib: sure.  i'll throw some up in a sec
[19:07] <nado> at least i can centralize everything i need to be done à the startup
[19:07] <nado> thank you for the tip
[19:11] <jimmy51_> jrib: http://pastebin.com/KVc1EeuD
[19:11] <jrib> jimmy51_: with hash -r
[19:12] <jimmy51_> jrib: ah... looks like /usr/sbin/mkntfs isn't there!
[19:12] <jrib> jimmy51_: ok
[19:14] <jimmy51_> jrib: hmm... why wouldn't it get installed even after ntfs-3g is installed?
[19:14] <jrib> jimmy51_: on 12.10 /sbin/mkfs.ntfs is a link to /sbin/mkntfs, not to what you have
[19:14] <jrib> !find mkntfs
[19:14] <jrib> !find /sbin/mkntfs
[19:15] <jrib> !find /usr/sbin/mkntfs
[19:15] <jrib> jimmy51_: did you modify the link?
[19:15] <jimmy51_> jrib: i did not.
[19:16] <jrib> jimmy51_: you can purge the package and reinstall it to see if the issue repeats itself
[19:16] <jrib> jimmy51_: what ubuntu version?
[19:16] <jimmy51_> jrib: 13.04.  looks like it's /usr/mkntfs
[19:17] <jimmy51_> jrib: i guess i can just change my script to call that... or make a symlink to match where it really is.
[19:17] <jimmy51_> seems like the default package lays down a bad symlink
[19:17] <ForSpareParts> I'm on 11.10 (running in a VM under OSX) and I'm trying to set up Aero Snap-like bindings in Compiz Config -- for some reason <Super>-Left/Right aren't triggered when I press the key combination. Anyone know why?
 works in other contexts, but not this one.
[19:18] <jrib> jimmy51_: you should purge to reinstall to verify this is an issue with the package; also check bugs.ubuntu.com
[19:18] <jrib> !11.10 | ForSpareParts
[19:18] <ForSpareParts> jrib, ?
[19:19] <jrib> ForSpareParts: 11.10 is no longer supported
[19:19] <jrib> !eol | ForSpareParts
[19:19] <jimmy51_> jrib: i did a apt-get remove.  is there more to it than that to purge?
[19:19] <mantovan1> l a metodologia que vc cria um erro certo
[19:20] <mantovan1> ops
[19:20] <mantovan1> um teste que passa
[19:20] <mantovan1> outro que nao passa?
[19:20] <ForSpareParts> jrib, Ah. Well, I'd love to upgrade, but I've been asked to remain on 11.10 by my employer. I know it's not technically supported, but if anyone here has any ideas, I'd really appreciate the help...
[19:20] <FloodBot1> mantovan1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:20] <jrib> ForSpareParts: I'd urge you to explain to your employer that 11.10 no longer gets security updates, it's not a good idea to stay on it
[19:21] <SolarisBoy> good luck with that approach
[19:21] <sasuke> Hi guys,
[19:22] <ForSpareParts> jrib, I'll point that out. Unfortunately, it's not up to me in the end -- my own machines were on 13.04 months ago.
[19:22] <SolarisBoy> when they support is that official ubuntu support (like with engineers from canonical or some third party that specializes in ubuntu) , is that for people who purchased some sort of support contract, or is that just in general dont ask anyone "not even people in irc channels" about EOL releases?
[19:22] <ForSpareParts> Do you think that this keybinding problem has anything to do with my being on 11.10?
[19:23] <jrib> SolarisBoy: the most important aspect is that security updates are no longer provided.  Personally, I don't care if someone else wants to help someone with an eol release here as long as they explain it's eol and what that means
[19:23] <jrib> ForSpareParts: you might try
[19:24] <jrib> ForSpareParts: you might try to replicate it on 12.04 or 13.04 just to troubleshoot
[19:24] <sasuke> i have a file.txt which will generate in multiple servers. I need to save all the  outputs in my local machine as a .csv file. Can anyone please help me on this
[19:24] <SolarisBoy> ForSpareParts: is your VM in 2d mode?
[19:25] <ForSpareParts> SolarisBoy, You know, I'm actually not sure. How would I check?
[19:25] <SolarisBoy> if so i think that the aero-snap thing is enabled when you go into the 3d mode atleast i believe that was my case
[19:25] <SolarisBoy> ForSpareParts: that i dont know =(
[19:25] <ForSpareParts> Hm.
[19:25] <SolarisBoy> ForSpareParts: other than logging out and in and looking at what your logging into =)
[19:25] <ForSpareParts> that'd work.
[19:25] <SolarisBoy> i think it should say what DM your logging into or if your using unity2d or so forth
[19:28] <Spanniel> hi can anyone tell me how to create shortcuts in desktop
[19:29] <sasuke> Spanniel, try "ln -s source destination"
[19:30] <rosco_y> Spanniel, in the file managers (i.e., "Dolphin") you can right-click the file and create a link, and drag the link whereever you like
[19:32] <jimmy51_> jrib:  modified my script to delete bogus symlink, create new one, and all is well.
[19:32] <jimmy51_> jrib: thanks for the help!
[19:35] <noob7> hi, does someone know if there is a way to calibrate a printer to make the printer print in the correct size? I found a cups calibrate toll but his one is only for color but not for the size/axes.
[19:36] <noob7> there is a printer which will print a drawn rectangle not in the same size as drawn
[19:37] <th0r> noob7: unless things have changed (it has been a few years) you calibrate the software and the onscreen image to match the printer, not the other way around
[19:38] <sasuke> hi can anyone tell me "how do i send a output of a file  "file.txt" from multiple servers to local machine as a single file as "file.csv"
[19:39] <noob7> so there is no tool/modul for cups or similar, to "calibrate" the printer? I mean to set a value for the width and height?
[19:39] <jrib> sasuke: ask #bash but give more details
[19:39] <set1> hi
[19:39] <noob7> so cups would always calculate the right coordinats
[19:40] <sasuke> jrib, thank .. will do that
[19:41] <mustmodify> So I have some crontab events... I can see them from crontab -e ... but they are failing for some reason. If memory serves me, last time I had this problem it had something to do with an environmental setting that worked when I SSHd in but wasn't around for crontab ... one event looks like this: 0 * * * * /bin/bash -l -c 'cd /home/production/www.domain.com/releases/20130617035068 && RAILS_ENV=production bundle exec rake interface:company --silent' ... ca
[19:41] <Ben64> mustmodify: make a script, don't do "cd" and stuff like that in cron
[19:42] <jrib> mustmodify: check syslog and your mail for what cron has to say
[19:42] <noob7> th0r, or do you mean by software the software I make the drawing with? couse cups is also software
[19:42] <mustmodify> Ben64: I didn't write that part... it was done automagically for me by a gem called 'whenever'. Is there a specific reason why that would fail?
[19:42] <Ben64> mustmodify: cron doesn't work like a shell does, use a script
[19:43] <th0r> noob7: the cad or drawing software does the scaling, not the printer driver. At least that is how it used to work
[19:43] <SoMany> I've successfully setup an FTPS server with proftpd on xubuntu. Would anyone be so kind to check it out (just trying simple commands, etc.)
[19:43] <noob7> ok, thanks
[19:43] <houkouonchi-home> jrib: thanks for the info it did lead me to /etc/kernel/postrm.d/ which has the scripts it was running. I just removed them as I am manually running update-grub after removing the kernels.
[19:44] <jrib> houkouonchi-home: ok, don't forget to restore them after ;)  Also, my guess is that just removing executable permission may have been enough, but not sure
[19:44] <ForSpareParts> Does anyone here use VMWare fusion? And if so, do you know if there's a way to get 3d acceleration working with an Ubuntu guest?
[19:45] <ForSpareParts> (those who were talking to me before, it looks like the problem I had with Window Snap was that compiz isn't running, because of software rendering)
[19:47] <SolarisBoy> ForSpareParts: thats what i thought it was.
[19:47] <ForSpareParts> SolarisBoy, you were right!
[19:47] <elisa87> hi, how to create x86 system image like in iso?
[19:47]  * SolarisBoy dancin
[19:47] <ForSpareParts> It turns out I *am* set to run in 3D, but it fails and falls back.
[19:47] <ForSpareParts> As far as I can tell.
[19:48] <jrib> ForSpareParts: i have not used vbox in a long time but in the past I had to install guest additions
[19:48] <ForSpareParts> jrib, They were automatically installed. Apparently VMWare Fusion doesn't support 3D acceleration on Linux guests out of the box.
[19:49] <jrib> ForSpareParts: oh right, I read virtualbox instead of vmware somehow... never mind
[19:55] <mike_papa> I need help with fixing boot on USB stick. I have Lubuntu there, and I converted MBR to GPT. It didn't boot anymore, so I used gdisk to convert it back to MBR, which didn't help, then I did install-mbr, but it just gives me MBR 123F (prompt to select partition) and it doesn't boot no matter what I press.
[19:55] <mumixam> anyone know why im getting a sh shell instead of bash?
[19:56] <mumixam> happened after a power fault, passwd is set to bash for my user
[19:59] <JPeterson> how do i show the rest of the GUI in this case https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2z5p162ovqtbn17/N37lgpgldz/note/vmware#f:Ubuntu%20(unstable)-2013-06-17-21-57-27.png
[19:59] <JPeterson> the picture is of adesktop with only a background
[19:59] <JPeterson> and DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal
[19:59] <SoMany> JPeterson: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[20:00] <JPeterson> cat /etc/issue
[20:00] <JPeterson> Ubuntu Saucy Salamander (development branch) \n \l
[20:00] <DJones> JPeterson: Please use #ubuntu+1 for 13.10 questions
[20:01] <JPeterson> DJones: why?
[20:01] <sloucher> I can't seem to get 13.04 to install (single boot)on a macbook air. It doesn't find a drive to boot. It has something to do with efi? Anyone have a good link?
[20:02] <DJones> JPeterson: Because thats the support channel for development versions of Ubuntu, this channel only deals with released versions
[20:02] <djshotglass> my sd card doesnt show up in gparted
[20:02] <JPeterson> DJones: why?
[20:02] <SoMany> djshotglass, start gparted with sudo maybe?
[20:02] <DJones> JPeterson: That is the channel policy
[20:02] <JPeterson> DJones: whats the reason
[20:02] <zykotick9> !gksudo | SoMany
[20:03] <guillcote> Hi
[20:03] <DJones> !saucy | JPeterson
[20:03] <SoMany> zykotick9, thanks
[20:03] <guillcote> I would like help with my sound card
[20:04] <SoMany> guillcote: what's the problem?
[20:05] <guillcote> No sound
[20:05] <gordonjcp> how can I start to diagnose how the launcher won't find certain apps?
[20:05] <SoMany> guillcote, what version of ubuntu are you using? What computer are you using too?
[20:05] <ispirto> do ext4 force fsck on power loss?
[20:05] <guillcote> Linux tolede 3.2.0-32-generic #51-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 26 21:33:09 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:05] <SoMany> guillcote: do you recall the last thing you did before the sound stopped working?
[20:05] <guillcote> From the forum, I did :
[20:06] <gordonjcp> on 12.04, if I install Xastir, hit <super> and type in "xastir" it says "Sorry, there is nothing that matches your search"
[20:06] <gordonjcp> if I hit <alt-f2> and type "xastir" it finds it
[20:06] <guillcote> sudo lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio"                15:24
[20:06] <guillcote> 00:05.0 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[20:06] <guillcote> 	Subsystem: Micro-Star International Co., Ltd. Device 7309
[20:06] <guillcote> 	Flags: bus master, 66MHz, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 5
[20:06] <guillcote> 	Memory at dff78000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[20:06] <guillcote> 	Capabilities: [44] Power Management version 2
[20:06] <guillcote> 	Capabilities: [50] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable+ 64bit+
[20:06] <FloodBot1> guillcote: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:06] <guillcote> 	Capabilities: [6c] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping Enable- Fixed+
[20:06] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, did you take a look at my paste?
[20:07] <SolarisBoy> nope started working again
[20:07] <nado> hi again
[20:07] <robbertjan1234> badum tss
[20:07] <nado> i dont have /usr/bin/man
[20:07] <nado> and man package dont provide it
[20:07] <rhea> thanks guillcote
[20:07] <SoMany> nado: just go woman ;-)
[20:07] <nado> tss
[20:07] <nado> so easy
[20:07] <nado> :D
[20:07] <guillcote> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5775099/
[20:08] <nado> so, wtf ?
[20:08] <robbertjan1234> www.nobrain.dk is what your lokkin' for...
[20:08] <robbertjan1234> lookin'*
[20:08] <FFF1> how do I trick a wine app to think it is always in focus even when I am off doing something else on the computer? I say trick because I am assuming this is difficult, but then again I come from knowing how Win7 works.
[20:08] <SoMany> guillcote, thanks
[20:08] <FFF1> i have dual booted win7+ubuntu
[20:08] <guillcote> They said to check at http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Vendor-Nvidia to see if it is supported
[20:09] <SoMany> guillcote: what type of computer are you using? (if laptop, tell me the model)
[20:09] <houkouonchi-home> jrib: well honestly these machines are test lab machines that get reimaged pretty often and kernels never get removed until now with a script I am making which will run via cron so should be fine to leave those files in the dust.
[20:09] <guillcote> I am looking, but I can find if it matchs
[20:09] <guillcote> The computer is a desktop
[20:09] <guillcote> What would you like to know about it?
[20:10] <SoMany> guillcote, ok. Do you recall the last thing you did before it stopped working?
[20:10] <guillcote> I don't remember that it worked
[20:10] <SoMany> guillcote, So it never worked, right?
[20:10] <guillcote> I been using the computer mostly endless
[20:11] <guillcote> But now it has a monitor and speakers.
[20:11] <elisa87> histo: Hi, does debootstrap create /sbin/init for me?
[20:12] <Spanniel> why cant i acess c: using ubuntu
[20:12] <nightfly> Spanniel: What are you trying
[20:13] <guillcote> somay:right
[20:13] <hi> hi scooby
[20:13] <nado> so, no one about mysteriously absent man bin ?
[20:13] <Spanniel> trying to put a shortcut for vlc in desktop,cant find where i installed vlc unlike in windows
[20:13] <zykotick9> Spanniel: try "whereis vlc"
[20:14] <th0r> Spanniel: or 'which vlc'
[20:14] <SolarisBoy> nado: sudo dpkg -l man-db
[20:14] <SolarisBoy> meh dont really need sudo
[20:15] <Spanniel> VLC media player 2.0.5 Twoflower
[20:15] <nado> SolarisBoy: so man-db is the package providing man bin ?
[20:15] <nado> thx
[20:15] <SolarisBoy> nado yes
[20:16] <nado> sometimes i wonder why there are not standard name for such package across distributions :)
[20:16] <SolarisBoy> internet would collapse
[20:18] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, do you remember my autostart issue? here's that .conf file I made now: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5774800/
[20:21] <SolarisBoy> alright bennypr0fane - do you have the command line that worked in the past for you when starting devils pie manually?
[20:21] <SolarisBoy> when i run devilspie with no arguments i get a complaint about No s-expressions loaded, and that seems to cause the error on startup/unknown instance
[20:22] <trism> SolarisBoy: he should probably be using xdg autostart to start devilspie in lubuntu (since the upstart script is going to start before x loads)
[20:23] <guillcote> Can somebody help me with my sound card?
[20:23] <SolarisBoy> ahh nice trism - i actually was trying to see if we can get it to start on the signal emit when the display manager starts
[20:23] <SolarisBoy> but if that wont work - autostart seems doable
[20:23] <trism> SolarisBoy: we do have that support in 13.04 if you are running unity, but I don't think there is an lubuntu session yet
[20:24] <SolarisBoy> got ya
[20:24] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: make it an autostart job then
[20:24] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, I haven't gotten anything working yet, I believe
[20:24] <bennypr0fane> you gave me a command to check for that, but I don't know how to read the output
[20:25] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5775143/
[20:25] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: trism is saying make it an autorun job
[20:25] <SolarisBoy> ?
[20:25] <SolarisBoy> leafpad?
[20:25] <readyjar> How come the notifications deal always says im offline, and I can't seem to add any online accounts
[20:25] <readyjar> Using ubuntu 13.04 with gnome shell
[20:26] <readyjar> And using the gnome online accounts
[20:26] <Sirisian|Work> I know the packages system exists on the ubuntu site, but is there any other side where I can feed it a package name found with dpkg and find which package might have installed it?
[20:26] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: make it an autostart job - from the gui - type startup applications and you should be able to add one
[20:26] <Sirisian|Work> site*
[20:26] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, afaik that works only with GUI applications, whgich devil's pie is not
[20:27] <bennypr0fane> I'm running Gnome SHell btw
[20:27] <X-Sleepy-X> Hey all! Anyone know how to extend the guake terminal to the left and right to fill the gap from the missing decoration?
[20:27] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: then put it in rc.local
[20:27] <bennypr0fane> umib0zu, alright
[20:27] <jrib> Sirisian|Work: your question is confusing.  You say you want to feed a package name and find which package installed it.  Do you mean you want to find a packages dependencies?
[20:28] <bennypr0fane> not umib0zu , just um
[20:28] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, did you check if my script is ok now?
[20:28] <jrib> bennypr0fane: use startup applications like SolarisBoy first suggested
[20:28] <Sirisian|Work> jrib, other way around. Find out which package has it as a depedency.
[20:28] <dogsbonewater> hey, is there channel for mac/apple?
[20:28] <bennypr0fane> jrib, not possible like I said
[20:28] <jrib> Sirisian|Work: apt-cache rdepends PACKAGE
[20:28] <bennypr0fane> that's what I tried first
[20:29] <jrib> bennypr0fane: why is it not possible?
[20:29] <SolarisBoy> i'll need to convince myself that you can't run a cli app from startup apps...
[20:29] <Daboone72> 26/quit
[20:29] <zykotick9> Sirisian|Work: "apt-cache depends foo" or "apt-cache rdepnds foo".... or even "aptitude why foo"
[20:29] <SolarisBoy> but i dont want to reboot to test it
[20:29] <jrib> bennypr0fane: startup applications is not somehow limited to gui applications
[20:29] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, if you find how to do it, please tell me
[20:29] <bennypr0fane> I'll try and test it
[20:30] <bennypr0fane> I looked in Gnome settings
[20:30] <dogsbonewater> mothberfuuuck gnome
[20:30] <dogsbonewater> is there mac apple chanel
[20:30] <jrib> !language | dogsbonewater
[20:30] <zykotick9> SolarisBoy: most terminals have a switch to run something, like "xterm -e foo.sh" or similar
[20:30] <dogsbonewater> im ask question , answer?
[20:30] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: yea go to startup applications - go to browse - find/select devils pie and fill in the other info
[20:30] <jrib> !alis | dogsbonewater
[20:30] <dogsbonewater> tnx..
[20:30] <SolarisBoy> name/description there is nothing else it needs or would prevent it from running
[20:30] <readyjar> Ubuntu 13.04 using Gnome shell, can't add online accounts and notifications always says im offline
[20:30] <readyjar> Whats up with that
[20:30] <SolarisBoy> zykotick9: indeed they do
[20:31] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: another thing which may be your issue is as stated the devilspie command is expecting files that end in *.ds in some locations - do you have them?
[20:31] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, startup applications must have a different name in my GUI, which is in german
[20:31] <bennypr0fane> no idea
[20:31] <SolarisBoy> cant help you there i only speak ruby other than english
[20:31] <bennypr0fane> where would I look for those
[20:32] <SolarisBoy> i typed "startup" and it pops up
[20:32] <Sirisian|Work> thanks jrib.
[20:32] <SolarisBoy> maybe type the german equiv?
[20:32] <SolarisBoy> svartup
[20:32] <SolarisBoy> svartenuppen or whatever
[20:33] <bennypr0fane> haha very funny. looks like it's "Startprogramme"
[20:33] <SolarisBoy> ;>
[20:34] <BiosHazard> Hi guys, a question, when I start a program by ssh using "ssh <name>@<addr> <program> > /dev/null 2> /dev/null" an ssh session will stay open. I can terminate it without the program terminating. Is there a way to start the program without the ssh staying open?
[20:34] <bennypr0fane> if I press "add" I get a dialog with "name", "command" and "comment"
[20:34] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: correct
[20:35] <SolarisBoy> your in the right place
[20:35] <bennypr0fane> "command" opens a file manger window to search for the devil's pie executable, I guess? or the .conf file that I made?
[20:35] <benedikt> if i run ubuntu with a non-standard window manager (xmonad), does this circumvent the spyware in ubuntu?
[20:35] <bennypr0fane> benedikt, I think the best way to avoid that is to remove it
[20:35] <zykotick9> BiosHazard: i'm not sure what your asking, but would tmux or screen help?
[20:35] <benedikt> burbankboy:
[20:36] <benedikt> bennypr0fane: how does one remove it?
[20:36] <jrib> benedikt: there isn't spyware so not sure what you mean
[20:36] <Slart> benedikt: what spyware are you talking about? the amazon plugin thingy?
[20:36] <bennypr0fane> benedikt, there are plenty of how to's e.g. on youtube just google it. It shouldn't be a big deal
[20:36] <benedikt> jrib: yes there is. the unity menyu sends your searches to (at least amazon) and you give canonical the right to share this data with facebook (amongst others). you have to opt out, hence it is spyware
[20:37] <benedikt> bennypr0fane: right, thanks
[20:37] <floogy> Hi, how can I test that my nic is enabled for WOL?
[20:37] <jrib> benedikt: that's not spyware, but see ubottu and yes, if you aren't using dash (you aren't), then you won't interact with it
[20:37] <jrib> !adlens | benedikt
[20:38] <nado> BiosHazard: yes, tell your application go directly in background
[20:38] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, do I look for the devil's pie executable or point it to the script that I made?
[20:38] <nado> BiosHazard: '<program> &'
[20:38] <MonkeyDust>  highlight spyware
[20:38] <BiosHazard> Well, my problem is, I use a bash script to start about 20 nodes across a small network (it's a distributed system). When I just use ssh as I would manually, ps aux | grep ssh shows an active ssh process for every started node. Node if I just terminate those 20 processes, the nodes stay active. Now I was wondering if there is a simple way to have the ssh connection terminate after starting the program...
[20:38] <benedikt> jrib: that is what spyware is. both the EFF and FSF have made serious complaints
[20:38] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: make it the output of which devilspie
[20:38] <jrib> benedikt: does ubottu's response answer your question?
[20:39] <nado> BiosHazard: yes, background your applications will let ssh close
[20:39] <bennypr0fane> /usr/bin/devilspie
[20:39] <SolarisBoy> bennypr0fane: open a terminal and type which devilspie - copy and paste the returned data into that area then
[20:39] <BiosHazard> Yea, I use "ssh <name>@<addr> <program> > /dev/null 2> /dev/null &" but the connection stays open, still :/
[20:39] <BiosHazard> or does the & go before the stream redirects?
[20:39] <nado> BiosHazard: because & is locally, you need to add ' or " to tell & being on the ssh server
[20:40] <BiosHazard> Ooooh !! that sounds about right, let me try :D
[20:40] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, ok, done. but then I don't need that script in /etc/init, right? Should I delete thaT?
[20:41] <zykotick9> nado: i think BiosHazard needs to relacate that & as well... but i'm guessing this won't work.
[20:41] <MonkeyDust> benedikt  if this so called "spy ware"-like issue worries you: system settings >  privacy
[20:42] <benedikt> MonkeyDust: it worries me that my operating system has privacy settings. but ubuntu is the best linux distro imo, if i look at it with a utilitaries and techinical view.
[20:42] <nado> zykotick9: indeed, enclose with ' and relocate the &
[20:42] <UTF-8> Abbiamo l'Italia?
[20:42] <bennypr0fane> MonkeyDust, I'm pretty sure it fits the definition of spyware exactly
[20:42] <_Ace> Emacs or ViM
[20:42] <Actreka> Vim!
[20:42] <bennypr0fane> !it UTF-8
[20:42] <MonkeyDust> benedikt  true, it's controversial, but if you want to discuss it, better go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:43] <jrib> benedikt, bennypr0fane, MonkeyDust: please if you want to discuss the semantics of spyware, use #ubuntu-offtopic.  It's worthy of discussion, but it's not a support issue
[20:43] <genii> !polls | _Ace
[20:43] <bennypr0fane> jrib sure, I'm done anyway
[20:43] <UTF-8> bennypr0fane, si si
[20:43] <benedikt> jrib: you are right
[20:43] <_Ace> yea Vim for the win
[20:43] <BiosHazard> nado: omg, using 'ssh <name>@<addr> "<program> > /dev/null 2> /dev/null &" ' worked, thank you so much ^__^
[20:44] <bennypr0fane> UTF-8 no purtroppo. solo inglese qui. c'è un canale italiano però
[20:44] <UTF-8> bennypr0fane, or yes, understand a little english language
[20:45] <UTF-8> bennypr0fane, d'accordo, cmq non è che mi sapresti indicare un buon canale per intenditori di javascript che non disdegnagno di insegnare ai neofiti?
[20:45] <ncmcxx> i installed ubuntu on a windows machine but it just boots windows how can I dual boot?
[20:46] <zykotick9> BiosHazard: fyi there is some 2&> that redirects both standardin and error at the same time, but 2&> is probably not right!  but it's like that...  glad you got it working.  i didn't thing & would work...  !cookie for nado ;)
[20:46] <Winnie^> hi. i am trying to ban an ip from my server but ufw seams not to be working correctly. the rule: "ufw deny from 173.199.114.219" but the ip (from ahrefs.com) is still indexing our website. any suggestions?
[20:47] <SolarisBoy> Winnie^: are you sure it's one IP address?
[20:47] <bennypr0fane> UTF-8 try #ubuntu-it per supporto per Ubuntu in italiano. X l'altra cosa, non ho idea, ma prova ##javascript?
[20:47] <kcherkashin> Hi Guys, I have a weird question, not sure what would be the best channel for it: I have two files, first has 30k words, one on each line, the second one has translations. The bad thing is that one line in first file can have one or more lines in the second file so the file has 50k lines. What would be the best way to restore line to line relationship?
[20:47] <readyjar> Notifications tab under my user name always says im off line. WhY??
[20:47] <UTF-8> bennypr0fane, grazie, ciao
[20:48] <bennypr0fane> SolarisBoy, see my last question? I'm wondering if I should delete that script in /etc/init
[20:48] <Winnie^> SolarisBoy: in this case it's the same ip address. i can see it in my access.logs i know that they probably have several ips but it's not the case atm
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> ncmcxx, What is the windows release?
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> and how did you install?
[20:49] <bennypr0fane> I gotta starting doing my how-to searches in German first. that way the answers should also contain the GUI terms in German...
[20:49] <Slart> kcherkashin: how do you know if a translation in the second file is one or two lines?
[20:50] <BiosHazard> kcherkashin: is there a way to determine where a translation ends? Or any other way to know how many lines of the second file belong to a word in the first file?
[20:50] <kcherkashin> BiosHazard: Slart: That's the problem, there is no way to figure this out, but to look it up in the dictionary
[20:50] <Winnie^> SolarisBoy: they ignore the robots.txt, this was my first try to get the rid of them...so 2. try is to collect and ban their ips :/
[20:51] <Slart> kcherkashin: then you might as well lookup every word in the first file and put that in a new translation file
[20:51] <BiosHazard> Slart: that's what I was gonna say xP
[20:52] <readyjar> Does 13.04 support dual boot?
[20:52] <Slart> BiosHazard: =)
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> readyjar  the boitloader is called GRUB
[20:52] <kcherkashin> Slart: Specific set of translations is needed
[20:52] <MonkeyDust> bootloader*
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> readyjar, any linux can be multibooted
[20:53] <readyjar> MonkeyDust: I know this. Can I install it next to windows? I heard somewhere that 13.04 is broken in that respect
[20:53] <Slart> kcherkashin: could you put the first 30 or so lines from each file on pastebin so we can see what it looks like?
[20:53] <Slart> !pastebin | kcherkashin
[20:55] <nado> zykotick9: :3 & might work even after redirection, because you juste background the redirection process with the main one
[20:56] <kcherkashin> Slart:
[20:56] <kcherkashin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5775223/
[20:56] <kcherkashin> something like this
[20:56] <kcherkashin> Theactual files are in excel format, will have to preprocess it to get the lines
[20:57] <zykotick9> nado: i was very suprised that worked, with the location of the & - but hey, you where correct, can't argue with results ;)  "nice" btw.
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> readyjar, The installs are now a little different if you have W8 with an UEFI, gpt setups is all, no inherent problems otherwise besides users skills.
[20:57] <floogy> Wake on lan is not working here.
[20:58] <Slart> kcherkashin: ok, it looks like there really isn't anything that tells you if two lines might belong together.. I think you'll have to do this manually.. unfortunately
[20:59] <kcherkashin> Slart: That's what I was afraid of. Maybe could be possible to use some dictionary API, so we can at least separate the words it knows?
[20:59] <Slart> kcherkashin: perhaps.. I don't know if google exposes their translation api but it might be worth looking into
[21:01] <Slart> kcherkashin: this looks like it might be useful https://github.com/terryyin/google-translate-python
[21:01] <kcherkashin> Slart: Will look into it
[21:01] <kcherkashin> Another questions, if I'd  have to do that manually
[21:02] <kcherkashin> Is there a way to translate a file with 30k words?
[21:02] <Guest46439> google translate? :D
[21:04] <Slart> kcherkashin: I would say use python with that google translate library.. you'll have to check the translations manually of course if you're going to depend on it being correct
[21:04] <kcherkashin> Slart: I'm pretty sure it'll be slow over the network, and will have a limit on amour of words I can translate per given interval
[21:05] <Slart> kcherkashin: will it be slower than doing it manually?
[21:07] <kcherkashin> Slart: Maybe I'm missing something, but since there is no 100% guarantee that words from second file will be in google translate result, it may require a lot of headache with the script  manual check afterwards, so I'm not sure. It's something to consider though for sure
[21:08] <nado> oh god, this so much better when ignoring all these join/part messages
[21:08] <Winnie^> is it a to translation related channel or acout ubuntu? :>
[21:08] <Slart> Winnie^: good point... sorry
[21:09] <DS-labs> Hi guys Ubuntu seriously keeps overheating my Laptop like crazy I installed lm-sensors and it shows temp6:       +127.0°C  (crit = +128.0°C)
[21:09] <Winnie^> i would not mind if have not a ubuntu related problem with ufw :)
[21:10] <DS-labs> any good way to find out which chip is temp6
[21:11] <Slart> DS-labs: 127 degrees seems a bit.. on the high side.. is it really warm? or just a weird temperature reading?
[21:11] <DS-labs> it's quite warm but I higly doubt it's over a 100
[21:11] <Dark_light> Anyone experiencing random kernel panics on 13.04 ? I have a pretty standard laptop with sandy bridge and intel graphics, on other distros I don't have this issue
[21:11] <DS-labs> I think the 70°C are closer
[21:12] <Slart> DS-labs: sometimes you find people who knows how the laptops are made and decides to share that knowledge.. most of the time you're just guessing
[21:12] <Winnie^> DS-labs: sure thats i celsius and not fahrenheit?
[21:12] <DS-labs> .......yes
[21:12] <DS-labs> I think the °C in the reading KIIIINDA gives it away
[21:13] <DS-labs> @Slart that's why I want to find out which chip is temp6 so I could check
[21:13] <MonkeyDust> DS-labs  127, so a drop of water should immediately vaporize... unlikely
[21:13] <BiosHazard> Are you sure that's the actual temperature, not only an error in a one byte temp sensor?
[21:13] <Slart> DS-labs: it might be that lm-sensors *thinks* it's in celsius when it's really in farenheit.. 120-ish degrees farenheit does seem more reasonable
[21:13] <Punch> Dont want to spam the chat, so link = http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2155208
[21:13] <DS-labs> trust me it's celsius
[21:14] <DS-labs> temp3:        +59.0°C  (crit = +128.0°C)
[21:14] <DS-labs> temp4:        +66.0°C  (crit = +128.0°C)
[21:14] <DS-labs> temp5:        +29.0°C  (crit = +128.0°C)
[21:14] <DS-labs> temp6:       +127.0°C  (crit = +128.0°C)
[21:14] <BiosHazard> DS-labs: Are you sure that's the actual temperature, not only an error in a one byte temp sensor? At 120°C wouldn't the case already be melting? :/
[21:14] <DS-labs> aliminium casing
[21:14] <MonkeyDust> Fukushima II
[21:15] <Dark_light> that temperature is bogus or you'd be on fire
[21:15] <DS-labs> sigh physics is not your strong point ?
[21:15] <Winnie^> how wants some fried eggs? DS-labs gives a round for free
[21:15] <Winnie^> who :)
[21:15] <readyjar> It's only 20 degrees C over boiling :)
[21:16] <DS-labs> boiling point of water
[21:16] <Dark_light> probably not but I'm pretty sure a cpu burns at 127 C
[21:16] <DS-labs> which also depends on pressure
[21:16] <DS-labs> the boiling point of water that is
[21:16] <Slart> DS-labs: I think we can all agree that your computer isn't 120 degrees anywhere... why some software claims this is another question
[21:16] <DS-labs> I didn't say it was
[21:16] <DS-labs> my original question was and still is
[21:16] <DS-labs> is there a way to check what temp6 equals which chip it is
[21:17] <Punch> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2155208
[21:17] <DS-labs> thank you Punch
[21:17] <Slart> DS-labs: I would ask the manufacturer.. send an email to some support-address, ask in a forum or something like that
[21:17] <BiosHazard> Yea, open the thing, and touch the chips. The one where you get a burn blister is t6 :P
[21:18] <readyjar> Power it off for a night. Check to see what the sensor says right after powering on
[21:18] <DS-labs> sigh.... how about I just look in the conf file?
[21:19] <DS-labs> I feel almost like this was not a linux community
[21:19] <readyjar> DS-labs is uber 1337
[21:19] <MonkeyDust> DS-labs  it's because 127°C is just too improbable
[21:19] <DS-labs> and I said that I also think it's a bug
[21:19] <lukecarrier> this channel can be super flamey sometimes
[21:20] <DS-labs> and my question was NOT weather it's probable
[21:20] <DS-labs> or if it is 127
[21:20] <Dark_light> DS-labs:  temperatures are taken by the coretemp module there's no conf file also if you're on 3.7 (for some reason) there's a bug in coretemp it always report higher temperatures than normal I'm not sure if it's in 3.8 too
[21:20] <DS-labs> but there is a conf file that tells the sensors in which order to display info
[21:21] <Dark_light> sure but then you could just look in /proc
[21:21] <Dark_light> sorry I meant
[21:21] <Dark_light>  / sys
[21:21] <DS-labs> aye
[21:21] <DS-labs> and thus we conclude my original question
[21:21] <DS-labs> what a joy ride it has been
[21:21] <vjacob> Hiya. Any idea why a "dd if=/dev/random of=delete.this" does not seem to do much?
[21:22] <DS-labs> I am SO switching back to arch
[21:23] <vjacob> DS-labs, whats up?
[21:23] <vjacob> Arch does this and Ubuntu doesn't?
[21:23] <DS-labs> hmm
[21:23] <DS-labs> what
[21:23] <DS-labs> no
[21:23] <readyjar> DS-labs is funny
[21:25] <vjacob> aye don't now :)
[21:25] <Dark_light> DS-labs: honestly if you don't even know there's a module that reads the temps and where to find them you're going to have issues no matter what distro you use, my suggestion for now would be check the temps in /sys and if they are actually reported that high try a kernel from the mainline ppa or just build a recent (3.9.x) one yourself
[21:26] <vjacob> anyone with an idea where I might ask my question about /dev/random if not here?
[21:26] <_Z> possible to burn iso to a usb in mac then boot on windows?
[21:27] <Slart> vjacob: does it do the same if you use /dev/urandom?
[21:27] <jswagner> vjacob: it's not distro specific, so any general "linux" support room would be the right place
[21:27] <Dark_light> vjacob: cat /dev/random displays something?
[21:27] <Crosant> _Z: look at unetbootin
[21:28] <DS-labs> and when have I said any of that for fuck sake are you illiterate I had a simple question which nobody was unable to answer and in the end I found my own solution because most of you fuckwits were too busy explaining how 127 seems improbable something that I stated originally and never considered a real problem
[21:28] <vjacob> aye, all good points. trying now.
[21:28] <DS-labs> jesus christ I can see why the linux community hates ubuntu users
[21:28] <DS-labs> it's like talking to indian tech support
[21:29] <_Z> Crosant: i wanted to stay in the cli
[21:29] <jswagner> _Z: use 'dd'
[21:29] <MonkeyDust> DS-labs  no ranting here please, we get the point
[21:29] <Crosant> hmmm
[21:29] <Crosant> yeah use did
[21:29] <Dark_light> DS-labs: you should know since your english is just as bad, nobody was unable is a double negative
[21:29] <Crosant> dd *
[21:29] <jswagner> DS-labs: Dark_light: please don't
[21:30] <DS-labs> FINE
[21:30] <DS-labs> I won't
[21:30] <DS-labs> I am sorry if I caused offense
[21:30] <DS-labs> or w/e
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> DS-labs  for future reference: how did you find what was the cause?
[21:30] <Dark_light> DS-labs: regarding your issue try what I said, in my opinion it's likely to be a coretemp issue
[21:30] <_Z> i used dd as per example on ubuntus website but cant boot on windows only mac
[21:30] <snkcld> is it possible to perform memtest on an efi machine?
[21:31] <vjacob> Slart, how did you guess?
[21:31] <Slart> vjacob: huh?
[21:31] <vjacob> Dark_light, "���^Cu�!5^΢���1"
[21:31] <vjacob> Slart: urandom
[21:31] <vjacob> it works
[21:32] <vjacob> Dark_light, and it's random again, if I run the command again
[21:32] <Guest25062> Pardon me' but is there a way to get Proxy setting set before the Install?
[21:32] <Slart> vjacob: /dev/urandom gives you pseudorandom numbers... ie calculated.. but it's much much faster.. /dev/random gives you better random numbers but it can only give you such many numbers before it has to gather more entropy.. so you get one number every second or so.
[21:32] <Dark_light> vjacob: do this dd if=/dev/random of=test bs=100
[21:33] <nibbler> sometimes i cannot suspend via the menu, but have to "sudo pm-suspend" - what might be the reason?
[21:33] <vjacob> Slart, aye... "<binaryhermit> /dev/random runs out of entropy and stops outputting random randomness?  /dev/urandom doesn't care if it runs out of entropy."
[21:33] <sasuke> hi i have two machines A & B. I am able to do ping & able to ssh / vice versa. But i was unable to scp. What might be the problem?
[21:33] <vjacob> Dark_light, Slart : thank you
[21:33] <nibbler> sasuke: did you try to supply -vvv to increase verbosity?
[21:33] <Slart> vjacob: combine this with the fact that dd only writes stuff when it has gathered something like 128 bytes or so you won't see anything right away.. but if you let it run for a while the file will get created
[21:34] <Slart> vjacob: you're welcome
[21:34] <vjacob> interesting. Will try to keep this in mind.
[21:34] <nibbler> vjacob: just move your mouse and randomly hit the keyboard, to create entropy faster
[21:34] <sasuke> nibbler, yes
[21:34] <sasuke> but it didnt work
[21:34] <lolo> Hi I am using ubuntu from livecd, and want to check for a file in a ntfs volume (just to open it), but I want to be sure to mount the partition in read only, do you know if it's possible from nautilus ? (for now, if I click mount it mounts it with read/write permission)
[21:34] <vjacob> nibbler, I try to do as little as possible of that ;)
[21:34] <nibbler> sasuke: verbosity will not make things work, but it might tell you why they dont
[21:34] <_Ace_> sasuke: what error are you getting
[21:35] <sasuke> nibbler, its saying "no route to host"
[21:35] <Slart> lolo: I've never mounted a ntfs volume as read only.. but I would start by checking man mount
[21:35] <Slart> lolo: but I doubt you can do it from nautilus
[21:35] <nibbler> sasuke: nah.... please nopaste the scp, ssh and "ip r" and "ip a" output and maybe "iptables -n -L -v"
[21:35] <lolo> ok thx Slart
[21:36] <DJT> wher does it talk about prog?
[21:36] <gordonjcp> lolo: mount from the command line with something like "sudo mount -o ro /path/to/device /path/to/mountpoint"
[21:37] <silare> How do I know what version of Gtk I am running?
[21:38] <canin> I can't burn any of these ISO backups I have, every single piece of software on linux seems to either make a coaster, or refuses to burn these ISOs, I know they're good, I can burn and mount them in windows. Is there seriously not a single program that will just raw burn a raw binary image?
[21:38] <DS-labs> silare: pkg-config --modversion gtk+
[21:39] <jswagner> canin: i doubt they are all identically flawed
[21:39] <silare> DS-labs: "No package 'gtk+' found" o_O
[21:39] <DS-labs> not installed
[21:39] <Slart> canin: I've never had any problems burning cd's or dvd's in linux.. might be a problem with the linux and your hardware.. I doubt it's the burning software
[21:39] <silare> DS-labs: Weird... because I'm on Ubuntu 13.04 (Unity). o_O Which I think is using Gtk.
[21:39] <canin> They're raw data, dd + hash check = they're fine, but nothign will burn them becuse they're not standard dvds
[21:39] <DS-labs> oooh
[21:39] <DS-labs> then
[21:39] <DS-labs> pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0
[21:39] <Dark_light> canin: can you mount them in linux ? mount -o loop img.iso /mnt
[21:39] <sneex> Pardon me; but is there a way to get Proxy setting set before the Install?
[21:40] <silare> Ohh. got it. I tried that command with gtk+-3.0 and it worked. xD THanks!
[21:40] <DS-labs> no problem
[21:40] <canin> I can burn regular dvds but everything refuses to burn these isos because they analyze them and screw up... all i want is a raw burn
[21:40] <nibbler> sneex: during ubuntu install you can define a proxy, yes
[21:41] <Jordan_U> canin: What is the source of this "raw data"?
[21:41] <Slart> canin: oh, I see.. not an iso... not so sure then.. google gives you nothing?
[21:41] <nibbler> canin: wodim /path/to/iso.iso
[21:41] <Dark_light> canin: or cdrecord dev=/dev/sr0 (or whatever it is) path/to/iso
[21:41] <sneex> what is the syntax for 13.04 - I haven't figure that out in 5 installs
[21:41] <HeyMan7-Cloud> Hello, I am new I am trying to install wine. I follow the steps here - "http://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu" and it gives me an error when I try to download both versions. (1.4 ans 1.5) [Errors here - http://pastie.org/8053372]
[21:42] <wheatthin> HeyMan7-Cloud, you need to install wine using apt-get
[21:42] <k1l> !wine | HeyMan7-Cloud
[21:42] <nibbler> Dark_light: cdrecord is a symlink to wodim usually, as the cdrecord coder went nuts at some point in time ;-)
[21:42] <k1l> HeyMan7-Cloud: why dont you use the ubuntu package for wine?
[21:43] <HeyMan7-Cloud> k1l: What do you mean?
[21:43] <wheatthin> through software center or apt-get
[21:43] <k1l> HeyMan7-Cloud: you know about tha package system? ubuntu brings alpot of stuff prepacked for you
[21:43] <HeyMan7-Cloud> I tried the terminal way as well, it failed.
[21:43] <Dark_light> HeyMan7-Cloud: apt-get install wine ?
[21:43] <sneex> nibbler: Sorry, reasking  :Pwhat is the syntax for 13.04 - I haven't figure that out in 5 installs
[21:43] <wheatthin> what failed about it?
[21:44] <HeyMan7-Cloud> Dark_light: Yes.
[21:44] <HeyMan7-Cloud> wine1.4
[21:44] <k1l> HeyMan7-Cloud: what failed? show the exact error please
[21:44] <arooni-mobile> i have a laptop and ubuntu 13.04;  when i put something in the sudo crontab to happen at 6AM but my laptop is suspended;  it seems like the command is never run (when the laptop eventually wakes up)... how can i fix this?
[21:45]  * sneex I installed Netflix - wine came with it
[21:45] <HisaoNakai> Hello, I'm attempting to upgrade 12.04 to 12.10 and subsequently 13.04, but the wireless connection keeps dropping and reconnecting.
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> arooni-mobile  make sure you use complete paths in cron, so /home/username and not ~
[21:46] <HeyMan7-Cloud> Here is the terminal error - http://pastie.org/8053410
[21:46] <Slart> arooni-mobile: do you want it to wake your computer up at 6 or do you want the job to run when it wakes up and realises that a task is overdue
[21:46] <HisaoNakai> God damn it, it just dropped again.
[21:46] <arooni-mobile> Slart, i want the job to run when the laptpo eventually wakes up
[21:46] <wheatthin> shhh, reframe from cursing plz
[21:46] <Dark_light> HisaoNakai: what wireless card?
[21:46] <MonkeyDust> arooni-mobile  i use @reboot to clear .cache
[21:47] <Dark_light> HisaoNakai: and have you already upgraded to 12.10 or partially upgraded ?
[21:47] <arooni-mobile> MonkeyDust, can you be more specific please?  i put @reboot in the crontab file?
[21:47] <HisaoNakai> Wireless card is a small TP-LINK USB adapter, and it's only partially downloaded.
[21:47] <MonkeyDust> arooni-mobile  yes, so not 0 6 * * * , but @reboot [command]
[21:48] <HisaoNakai> It's seeing the network, so it IS being recognised by Ubuntu,it just refuses to stay connected.
[21:48] <k1l> HeyMan7-Cloud: which ubuntu is that exactly?
[21:48] <HisaoNakai> It seems to only drop when Update Manager does something.
[21:48] <HeyMan7-Cloud> Sorry, 13.04
[21:49] <HisaoNakai> Struggles to connect, then disconnects for no real reason.
[21:49] <wheatthin> HisaoNakai, hmm hows the signal strength?
[21:49] <HeyMan7-Cloud> HisaoNakai: Are you using wifi
[21:49] <Jordan_U> canin: If the file doesn't have an iso9660 filesystem, then it's not an iso. If you're trying to burn a .bin file (with an accompaning .cue file) then you'll need to use different software / options. What is the source of this "raw data"?
[21:50] <canin> cdrecord and wodim does not work either, cannot write medium - incompatible format.... WHY CAN'T I WRITE RAW DATA? There's gotta be a way, I can in mac and windows with some programs
[21:50] <canin> Jordan_U: It's old dd'd data from firmware DVDs
[21:50] <crackerjack> Good Evening
[21:50] <Dark_light> canin: what does file name.iso says?
[21:50] <Slart> arooni-mobile: it seems regular cron doesn't do this.. I'm not sure which cron daemon ubuntu uses but anacron is one that can run missed jobs, not sure if it does it by default though
[21:51] <k1l> HeyMan7-Cloud: do you have PPAs enabled?
[21:51] <Sirisian|Work> Remind me again. Why is app armor installed by default on ubuntu server? Seems like 90% of the servers I've ever logged into manually uninstall it.
[21:51] <HeyMan7-Cloud> k1l: What is that exactly?
[21:51] <Dark_light> HisaoNakai: lspci -k | grep Net -A 2 what does it say ?
[21:52] <k1l> HeyMan7-Cloud: 3rd party package repositories
[21:52] <canin> Dark_light: 326236.iso just numbers, I think it's actually a bin but names .iso jsut because when it was being used in windows the program just appended the .iso
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> Sirisian|Work  it's switched on by default, so it's the user's own choice and responability to switch it off
[21:52] <HeyMan7-Cloud> k1l: Then I dunno. How do you check?
[21:52] <k1l> ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[21:53] <HisaoNakai> wheatthin and HeyMan7-Cloud: Wifi signal strength is 2 bars and the dot.
[21:53] <Dark_light> canin:  use bchunk, bchunk file.bin file.cue file.iso
[21:53] <Jordan_U> Sirisian|Work: Because it adds security. I'd say that unless those admins replaced it with selinux or similar that they were being irresponsible to just disable it.
[21:53] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, I had desktop cube working fine in 12.10, but I had to downgrade to 12.04 for other reasons. After reinstall I am getting that "flash" on rotation, and windows will not move from one workspace to another with the keyboard. I remember I fixed this before, but I forgot how.
[21:53] <Pinkamena_D> Anyone else fix this issue?
[21:54] <wheatthin> Pinkamena_D, are you talking about compiz?
[21:54] <Sirisian|Work> Jordan_U, yeah I'm keeping it installed. Was trying to figure out why it's always uninstalled. Thanks.
[21:54] <Sirisian|Work> I*
[21:54] <HisaoNakai> Dark_light: nothing comes back from that commend
[21:54] <canin> Dark_light: Will try that... man google gives nothing for "burn raw to disk ubuntu" and all sorts of similiar searches, it automatically assumes i'm trying to burn a ripped dvd iso
[21:55] <Dark_light> HisaoNakai: just paste the whole lspci -k output somewhere
[21:55] <HeyMan7-Cloud> k1l: I get this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5775383/
[21:55] <wheatthin> HisaoNakai, pastebinit works well for that
[21:56] <k1l> HeyMan7-Cloud: ok, then contact the ubuntu-wine-ppa maintainer
[21:56] <HisaoNakai> wheatthin: I've just copied the entire terminal (nothing big, just an attempted update manager followed by several failed attempts at typing the command, then typing it a few different ways
[21:56] <HeyMan7-Cloud> k1l: I am in #winehq through another person. Thanks for your help.
[21:57] <crackerjack> evening
[21:57] <crackerjack> you want some more of this hot firE?
[21:57] <san> hi
[21:57] <k1l> HeyMan7-Cloud: ubuntu got a own wine1.4 package. the PPA wine package might make the problem here
[21:57] <Jordan_U> Sirisian|Work: Sometimes people will run into prolems where Apparmor is blocking an action that they feel is legitimate (and may either be legitimate or may be caused by them trying to do something in an insecure / bizzarre way). Rather than changing their configuration (either of the app, or of the Apparmor profile) to avoid the one blocked action, they disable Apparmor altogether, greatly reducing their security.
[21:57] <crackerjack> WAZUP CRACKERS?
[21:58] <Sirisian|Work> Jordan_U, I thought app armor only logs and never blocks until you configure it?
[21:58] <MonkeyDust> crackerjack  wrong channel
[21:58] <Jordan_U> Sirisian|Work: It definitely blocks by default.
[21:58] <crackerjack> sorry MonkeyDust
[21:58] <HeyMan7-Cloud> lol wut
[21:58] <crackerjack> how are you?
[21:59] <delinquentme> any of the devs on underscore.js in here? I'm interested in running a commit for multi-dim array intersections
[21:59] <delinquentme> derp! wrong chan
[22:00] <canin> if I try bchunk -r /home/canin/Documents/dvdtmp/253.bin /home/canin/Documents/dvdtmp/253.iso It does nothing... do I need a cue? Don't have one, wish I could find someone in linux to burn raw.
[22:01] <cortexman1> does anyone know how to create a virtual soundcard on raring using i.e. snd-dummy? does it require building a new kernel?
[22:01] <HisaoNakai> apparently my laptop
[22:01] <wheatthin> canin, why not make an iso and then burn it?
[22:02] <Shehrazad> So,
[22:02] <Shehrazad>  when I open a new program from terminal, I need to keep terminal window open unless I end the command with &&
[22:02] <Jordan_U> canin: I don't think you understood Dark_light's question. Please run "file 326236.iso" and pastebin the output of that command.
[22:02] <Shehrazad> What should I do to bbe able to close the termial without closing the program?
[22:02] <HisaoNakai> apparently my laptop's power-saving thing includes turning off wifi, even when Spotify is streaming. Windows, I hate you but I need you...
[22:02] <Dark_light> Shehrazad: just do like: gedit & and then: exit
[22:03] <Slart> Shehrazad: run the command with a &   and you can try typing exit instead of just closing the terminal window
[22:03] <HisaoNakai> Pasting the Terminal output into Pastebin is going horribly.
[22:03] <Shehrazad> Suppose I forgot to do that in the first place, Dark_light
[22:03] <HisaoNakai> I got to the Pastebin page, pasted things in, and then connection dropped again.
[22:03] <ewi_> Shehrazad: one & will allow you to run a program & give you a command prompt... && will allow you to add another command to the first one, and will only run if the first command completes successfully
[22:04] <canin> Some are # UDF filesystem data (version 1.5) 'ZU and some are ": data"
[22:04] <Anuhak> Hello, using PCManFM on lxde, how do get it I to warn me about file space limitations before a file copying operation?
[22:04] <HisaoNakai> Okay, connected again, let's see if it gets posted...
[22:04] <Shehrazad> Let me rephrase my question in that light then ewi_.
[22:04] <kant_> hi all, i'm on 12.04 and i'm trying to upgrade to 12.10 (aim is actually to get to 13.10 from there). When the GUI is display the progress info for step2 ("Setting new software channel") I get a crash. do-release-upgrade crashes and I get a dialog asking me whether I want to send an error report. This is getting frustrating. Any pointer ?
[22:04] <canin> None will burn with bra or k3b
[22:04] <ewi_> complicated to explain... "firefox &" will run firefox and allow you to exit the terminal Shehrazad
[22:04] <Shehrazad> How do I close the terminal without closing the program if I already opened a program.
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> Shehrazad  run your program in screen
[22:05] <Dark_light> Shehrazad: you can't
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> !info screen
[22:05] <Shehrazad> As in after typing "firefox" into the terminal, how do I close terminal without closing firefox?
[22:05] <Slart> Shehrazad: "exit" does some magic to make sure running programs keep running
[22:05] <HisaoNakai> Ahahaha, it worked. pastebin.com/TJuCF6Dp
[22:05] <ewi_> Shehrazad: "firefox &"
[22:05] <Slart> Shehrazad: iirc there is a difference between typing exit and just closing gnome-terminal
[22:06] <Shehrazad> Like a "soft" close, Slart?
[22:06] <canin> brasero turns my DVD into a coaster if I try burning the UDF images as soon as I start due to an undefined error, k3b at least refuses to burn it before it ruins a disk on me
[22:06] <Shehrazad> Let me test that Slart.
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> Shehrazad  i'm running irssi in screen, if i should close my terminal, irssi would stay alive
[22:06] <Dark_light> HisaoNakai: I said the output of lspci -k, the | grep part you should've omitted it, paste it again
[22:06] <Dr_willis> if you are using 'command &'  do NOT use the close button. ;)
[22:06] <Dr_willis> use the exit command.
[22:07] <Dr_willis> ages ago i would use the window manager tweaks to disable the close button on xterm windows.
[22:07] <HisaoNakai> oh god damn it. okay, I'll just run that
[22:07] <Shehrazad> Nope, Slart.
[22:07] <Shehrazad> It doesn't allow me to input new commands anyway.
[22:07] <Shehrazad> Hence, no exit command that I know of.
[22:08] <Slart> Shehrazad: what program are you trying to run?
[22:08] <Shehrazad> MonkeyDust, how did you start irssi in the first place then?
[22:08] <Shehrazad> Tried it with gedit
[22:08] <Shehrazad> Just opened a terminal and typed a gedit.
[22:08] <ewi_> noted... exit
[22:08] <Slart> Shehrazad: so you run    "gedit &" and then you should get a new prompt (or press enter to refresh it) then type exit
[22:08] <Shehrazad> Slart, you don't get it.
[22:09] <Shehrazad> I am trying to find a solution AFTER I don't use ampersand in the command.
[22:09] <Dark_light> well then there's no way to do it
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> Shehrazad    screen -S FREENODE irssi
[22:09] <Slart> Shehrazad: ahh.. and you really want to keep that program running
[22:09] <Dark_light> you can pause it with ctrl-z
[22:09] <ewi_> you could use an ascii code for the ampersand?
[22:09] <Shehrazad> Yes.
[22:09] <Shehrazad> Pause, hmm?
[22:09] <Slart> ctrl Z then %1&  and then exit
[22:09] <Shehrazad> Lemme try that as well.
[22:10] <Dr_willis> screen should remain in thebackground if you use exit or close button.
[22:10] <Dr_willis> you just reconnect to the screen session.
[22:10] <Slart> Shehrazad: ctrl Z pauses the program, %1 & starts the paused program again but now with & and then we're on track again
[22:10] <MonkeyDust> Shehrazad  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen
[22:10] <Dr_willis> or.. 'command &'   ctrl-z, then 'bg' if you want it to run in the background.
[22:11] <Dr_willis> then 'fg' to reconnect.. but still. you dont want to close the terminal window.
[22:11] <Shehrazad> Slart, it returns "bash: bg: %1: no such job"
[22:11] <Jordan_U> canin: Try changing the extention to .bin and see if that avoids confusing these programs
[22:11] <canin> How do I force erase a DVD with raw data on it? Stupid burning programs will not earse things unless it has a recognizable  FS on it...
[22:12] <Dr_willis> canin,  you do mean a DVD+RW ?
[22:12] <Slart> Shehrazad: what does it print out when you press Ctrl-Z ? something like [1] Stopped    bla bla bla
[22:12] <reisio> canin: might I suggest obtaining a USB stick
[22:12] <Shehrazad> "[1]+  Stopped                 gedit"
[22:12] <Shehrazad> ^ this, Slart
[22:12] <HisaoNakai> https://mega.co.nz/#!mV4DhDwZ!HEEGqyQ80LAorVqvNw9YZnWomjxdXYGILXbIk0jDJJU Made the mistake of saving it to a file type not accessible to Windows, so here's a mega link to a text file containing the terminal paste.
[22:12] <canin> Dr_willis: Ya I stopped using DVDs because the crappy software was making coasters on me so I tried an RW.... and wonderful nothing will let me erase it
[22:12] <Slart> Shehrazad: and then you type    %1 &
[22:13] <Dr_willis> Shehrazad,   just 'bg' should let gedit continue.   i belive
[22:13] <Slart> Shehrazad: and you get that error you mentioned?
[22:13] <Shehrazad> And it returned an error.
[22:13] <Shehrazad> Yes.
[22:13] <Shehrazad> But will it let me close terminal Dr_willis?
[22:13] <Slart> Shehrazad: try the 'bg' thingy Dr_willis suggested then.. I'm not sure what the problem might be with my way
[22:13] <canin> reisio: No USB support, only DVD images can be used... too big for CD
[22:13] <Dr_willis> canin,  i belive the 'cdrecord' command can do it.
[22:14] <reisio> good times
[22:14] <reisio> if it's rw you could use dd
[22:14] <Dr_willis> I havent even used an optical disk in ages...
[22:14] <Shehrazad> OK, solved!
[22:14] <Shehrazad> I pressed ctrl+Z, typed bg and voila!
[22:14] <reisio> Dr_willis: twss
[22:14] <Dr_willis> not since Dual-Layer DVD's were like $1 a pop. ;)  i still got a 10 pack that i never was able to burn properly
[22:14] <Shehrazad> Many thanks to everyone who helped!
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> Shehrazad  now type fg
[22:15] <Dr_willis> Shehrazad,  fg brings it back to the terminal -->  bash job control fundamentals ---->    http://web.mit.edu/gnu/doc/html/features_5.html
[22:15] <Shehrazad> Why is that MonkeyDust?
[22:15] <Dr_willis> example ussage  'scp  file'    then ctrl-z, bg  to let it run in the background...
[22:16] <Dr_willis> then 'fg' to bring it back front.
[22:16] <Dr_willis> back TO the front.  ;P
[22:16] <wheatthin> front ground :P
[22:16] <Shehrazad> Noted.
[22:16] <Dr_willis> This is covered in most decent bash guides under job controll. bash history is also a very handy feature to learn about
[22:17] <Shehrazad> Have a celebratory cat: http://i.imgur.com/L8OOT.jpg
[22:17] <Dr_willis> but if you are really doing a lot of bash-work.. screen and tmux are worth learning
[22:17]  * Dr_willis eats the cat.
[22:17] <HisaoNakai> Dark_light:: Hello?
[22:18] <Draxelis> hi guys. my chrome keeps giving various crash messages. So, now I'm thinking about trying chromium browser instead. is it any good? it used to be slowly updated, has anything changed?
[22:18] <kant_> hi guys, is there a way to get default /etc/apt/sources.list back for a given distribution? I'm on 12.04 LTS
[22:18] <Dark_light> HisaoNakai: holdon
[22:19] <Dr_willis> !find sources.list
[22:19] <kant_> ubottu: thanks!
[22:20] <Dr_willis> theres a web site that can generate a new one kant_   - but i always back mine up :)
[22:20] <reisio> backing up ftw
[22:20] <reisio> get thee to a backupery
[22:21] <Shehrazad> !botsnack
[22:21] <Dark_light> HisaoNakai: iwconfig ?
[22:21] <reisio> !botseppuku
[22:22] <Draxelis> chrome vs chromium! Which one would you recommend?
[22:22] <wheatthin> chrome, as it's stable and gets the latest stable
[22:22] <Slart> Draxelis: try asking the channel, type !poll  =)
[22:22] <reisio> chromium, as this isn't Windows
[22:22] <cjosephson> google chrome doesn't do anything when I click .wav files. I'd like them to play in the browser, like .mp3 and other media files. The main VLC player I have installed can play .wav fine.
[22:22] <Draxelis> !poll chrome vs chromium
[22:22] <Draxelis> :D
[22:23] <Slart> !poll | Draxelis
[22:23] <wheatthin> lol
[22:23] <reisio> ubottu: 'cept there usually is :p
[22:23] <Slart> Draxelis: didn't know ubottu was going to act up =)
[22:23] <wheatthin> let's just say chrome comes with flash built in
[22:23] <reisio> you can probably have VLC play them as a plugin
[22:23] <cjosephson> but I have the VLC plugin installed
[22:23] <wheatthin> :)
[22:23] <cjosephson> and it plays .mp3
[22:23] <cjosephson> but nothing happens when I click on .wav files
[22:24] <Draxelis> does chromium support the same chrome extensions? do bookmarks, history, extensions etc etc sync well on chromium?
[22:24] <Dark_light> Draxelis: yes
[22:25] <HisaoNakai> You've gotta be kidding me. I should have seen this coming...
[22:25] <HisaoNakai> My flash drive just died.
[22:25] <Draxelis> the same flash performance on chrome and chromium?
[22:25] <Dark_light> some are not installed by default though, but can be used (pepper flash and the pdf plugin)
[22:26] <cjosephson> the pdf plugin in chromium has been a pain the past few times I tried it
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> Draxelis  they do
[22:26] <kostkon> Draxelis, if you want a better otb experience go with chrome, if you want more privacy go with chromium
[22:27] <ThothCastel> if If I create a standard user in linux and add her to the 'admin' group, will he automatically be added to the sudoers file? what are the limitations of this admin user?
[22:27] <Draxelis> hm, ye I dont like what's  going on with the whole prism stuff
[22:27] <Draxelis> installing chromium via ubuntu software center is ok?
[22:28] <Draxelis> or should i download it via site?
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> people who are worried about their privacy, shouldnt use facebook and the lot
[22:28] <Draxelis> it's not that super worried but it just feels wrong
[22:29] <Dr_willis> google chrome's deb from their site adds their PPA i belive
[22:29] <Draxelis> Dr_willis,  so downloading chromium via ubuntu center is fine?
[22:30] <lluad> Anyone know how to fix the long delay at boot "waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration" bug in 12.04LTS?
[22:30] <Dr_willis> enabling their PPA will let you get it from the software center..
[22:30] <OerHeks> if you install solitairy packages trough websites, you won't get updates.
[22:30] <HisaoNakai> result of iwconfig: http://pastebin.com/6YJtcFtV
[22:30] <Draxelis> will it update when I check for ubuntu updates? Dr_willis
[22:30] <Dr_willis> unless the package adds its own ppa
[22:30] <cjosephson> the brower does nothing when I click on a .wav file. It doesn't even try to download it. I'd like it to play in-browser. Any suggestions?
[22:30] <Dr_willis> IF it adds a PPA =  YES Draxelis  thats whats special about google-chrome and a few other apps.
[22:30] <iceroot> will everything from proposed be part of the main/updates repos later? or are there packages which will be only on proposed all the time and not going to main/updates?
[22:30] <vadi> What does this mean: W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/archive/dists/precise-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages  406  Not Acceptable
[22:31] <Draxelis> Dr_willis,  ye I know, but I'm talking about chromium and not chrome :)
[22:31] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: meh
[22:31] <Dr_willis> Draxelis,  chromium has a PPA and is avail in the default repos.. if you want the latest. use the ppa
[22:31] <iceroot> vadi: An appropriate representation of the requested resource /pub/ubuntu/archive/dists/precise-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages could not be found on this server.
[22:31] <Draxelis> ok will download it via ubuntu software center
[22:31] <vadi> So the mirror broke?
[22:32] <iceroot> vadi: the Packages file is missing, there is just the Packages.gz  to there is something wrong with the repo
[22:32] <Draxelis> is software on ubuntu center updated? or is it updated only with new ubuntu release?
[22:32] <vadi> Should I report that anywhere?
[22:32] <MonkeyDust> iceroot  the site is not or no longer valid    http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/ubuntu/archive/dists/precise-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[22:32] <Dr_willis> !precise
[22:32] <gordonjcp> MonkeyDust: I tend to view people who say things like "ZOMG I don't do facebook/twitter/online shopping/going outside because ZOMG MY PRIVACY!!1111111!!!!!!1!!" as being a bit like that woman you sometimes see wandering around town in the urine-stained velour pyjamas screaming "STOP STARING AT ME!" at the pigeons
[22:32] <iceroot> vadi: report it to the maintainer of that repo (its not an official ubuntu repo and not supported here)
[22:32] <Dark_light> HisaoNakai: sorry I have to go now,I'm sure someone will help you out ;)
[22:32] <vadi> Yes, it is an official ubuntu repo...
[22:33] <vadi> I got it from selecting it in Ubuntus repo list.
[22:33] <Dr_willis> gordonjcp,  that was no woman.. that was my wife!
[22:33] <iceroot> vadi: could you paste the output of "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" please
[22:33] <iceroot> !paste | vadi
[22:33] <wheatthin> vadi, you can do that by pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:34] <resizt0r> Hello, I am trying to get a drive to be shared on my network with samba
[22:34] <wheatthin> <-- is sporting pastebinit today :)
[22:34] <iceroot> !samba | resizt0r
[22:34] <vadi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5775486/
[22:35] <iceroot> vadi: i cant imaging that are official ubuntu repos
[22:35] <wheatthin> unofficial ppa's :)
[22:35] <cjosephson> Totem seems to have a bug in playing certain files that require authorization to listen to. This stinks...
[22:35] <iceroot> vadi: they are named normally de.archive.ubuntu.com or us.archive.ubuntu.com or something like that
[22:35] <Draxelis> if Install flash via ubuntu center, will it work on chromium?
[22:35] <wheatthin> Draxelis, yup
[22:35] <vadi> OK, but Ubuntu included it
[22:35] <iceroot> Draxelis: no
[22:36] <HisaoNakai> Someone else please help, I can't keep a connection to my WiFi. Here's iwconfig run: http://pastebin.com/6YJtcFtV and lspci -k: https://mega.co.nz/#!mV4DhDwZ!HEEGqyQ80LAorVqvNw9YZnWomjxdXYGILXbIk0jDJJU
[22:36] <vadi> and auto-selected it when I asked it to pick closest mirror
[22:36] <iceroot> Draxelis: because chrome has it own flash player
[22:36] <vadi> Oh well
[22:36] <Draxelis> i mean chormium not chrome
[22:36] <Draxelis> :D
[22:36] <wheatthin> iceroot, he wants to use chromium, it doesn't
[22:36] <iceroot> wheatthin: i am sure chromium also has its own flashplayer but ok maybe i am wrong
[22:36] <wheatthin> nope
[22:36] <Draxelis> it doesnt look like chromium syncs with existing chrome extensions
[22:37] <wheatthin> Draxelis, flash isn't an extension, it's just built in
[22:37] <wheatthin> on chrome that is
[22:37] <ewi_> HisaoNakai: are you sure it's your wi-fi connection and not your gateway connection?
[22:37] <Draxelis> I know, that's was my other question/statement
[22:37] <Draxelis> :)
[22:38] <HisaoNakai> Every other computer connected to the gateway works, ewi_,
[22:38] <ewi_> create a new user HisaoNakai and see if the problem persists
[22:38] <Draxelis> are you sure that chromium syncs extensions that were installed on chrome?
[22:38] <HeyMan7-Cloud> Flash works for chromium, you just need to use adobe's website. Not ubuntu software center
[22:38] <wheatthin> yup
[22:39] <Pinkamena_D> wheatthin, yes I am talking about compiz
[22:39] <HeyMan7-Cloud> It does Draxelis
[22:39] <wheatthin> Draxelis, just gotta login, and might have to kick start it
[22:39] <wheatthin> Pinkamena_D, then you'd be looking at ccsm or something like that
[22:39] <Draxelis> Ye, all synced but extensions
[22:39] <wheatthin> Draxelis, they will, it just takes time
[22:39] <Draxelis> ok cool
[22:39] <Pinkamena_D> what do you mean?
[22:40] <SuperLag> How do you work with glipper? I've got it installed, but I'm not sure how to start it or use it.
[22:40] <Draxelis> yes flash works
[22:40] <Draxelis> i installed via USC
[22:40] <SuperLag> It'd be nice to be able to have multiple items on a clipboard and not have to continuously repeat copy/paste operations
[22:40] <wheatthin> Pinkamena_D, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion
[22:40] <Draxelis> so far, chormium looks very good
[22:41] <HisaoNakai> ewi_: I"ve created a new account, going to test now. For all purposes and to make me look like even more of an otaku, it is named hakamichishizune.
[22:41] <ewi_> run glipper SuperLag and it should add an icon that shows your recent clipboard contents
[22:42] <Pinkamena_D> well I already have the compiz and plugins
[22:42] <Pinkamena_D> are you suggesting I install the fusion packages to fix the issue?
[22:42] <wheatthin> Pinkamena_D, well it's a setting within int
[22:42] <wheatthin> it*
[22:43] <Draxelis> so, there's a new person looking after chromium, right?
[22:43] <SuperLag> ewi_: ran glipper... now I see an icon, but when I copy items, I'm not seeing anything there
[22:43] <Pinkamena_D> ok, let me just copy and paste the issue, one second...
[22:43] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, I had desktop cube working fine in 12.10, but I had to downgrade to 12.04 for other reasons. After reinstall I am getting that "flash" on rotation, and windows will not move from one workspace to another with the keyboard. I remember I fixed this before, but I forgot how.
[22:43] <ewi_> you clicked/right clicked on the icon SuperLag?
[22:43] <wheatthin> http://www.noobslab.com/2011/10/enable-compiz-desktop-cube-in-ubuntu.html, Pinkamena_D
[22:44] <SuperLag> ewi_: multiple times
[22:44] <wheatthin> like that?
[22:44] <ewi_> maybe need to adjust the settings to allow more than 0 clipboard contents?
[22:45] <SuperLag> ewi_: Okay. Where do you access the settings for it?
[22:45] <ewi_> right click on it? i'm not sure
[22:45] <SuperLag> It's not bringing any menus up, click or right-click. I get nothing.
[22:46] <SuperLag> ewi_: I may have to log out or reboot. Unfortunately, I'm stuck in a position where I can't do that yet
[22:46] <wheatthin> SuperLag, you using gnome?
[22:47] <wheatthin> and are trying to access files on desktop?
[22:47] <ewi_> SuperLag: ctrl+alt+c does that do anything?
[22:47] <davethefan> hello
[22:47] <Pinkamena_D> ok, I just finished looking at that guide. It has all of the things I have done already
[22:48] <resizt0r> ok so, im trying to edit a system file with konsole
[22:48] <wheatthin> Pinkamena_D, as in the settings to enable the features itself?
[22:48] <resizt0r> and i type "su"
[22:48] <resizt0r> type my pass, and it says authentication failure
[22:48] <SuperLag> wheatthin: in this case, yes. ewi_: that worked to bring up a menu. Clicking on the icon still doesn't do anything though.
[22:48] <Pinkamena_D> the flash itself is annoying but I can deal with it. The main problem is that the windows do not move from one workspace to another correctly
[22:48] <ewi_> and you have glipper 2.1 SuperLag?
[22:49] <Pinkamena_D> wheatthin, Yes, first I did the compat-check, then installed the packages and put the settings the same way.
[22:49] <Pinkamena_D> What ticks me off is that it was working fine in 12.10.
[22:50] <Pinkamena_D> I also noticed that more plugins are available now, as if I have downloaded a lslightly diferent package then I had.
[22:50] <HisaoNakai> Okay, I just played a full game of Solitaire and it hasn't dropped yet, I'm going to try to provoke it in my (gasp) using Firefox
[22:51] <SuperLag> ewi_: 2.4
[22:51] <ewi_> sounds promising HisaoNakai
[22:52] <ewi_> SuperLag: "sudo restart glipper"?
[22:52] <HisaoNakai> ewi_ Went to youtube, searched "vinesauce corruptions", and then I get a notification: "network_name" Disconnected.
[22:53] <HisaoNakai> so no, another user account doesn't fix the problem.
[22:54] <ewi_> log into you wi-fi configuration and change the wi-fi channel HisaoNakai?
[22:54] <HisaoNakai> Tried that before and it didn't work.
[22:56] <resizt0r> i dont see why konsole will not let me use "su"
[22:57] <SuperLag> ewi_: didn't help
[22:57] <ewi_> sudo su resizt0r
[22:57] <SuperLag> ewi_: btw, that doesn't work. I just killed the PID for glipper
[22:57] <Draxelis> i like chromium. it auto-updates on ubuntu, but if one wanted to use chromium on win7, how to autoupdate?
[22:57] <MrGrymReaper> Hi.
[22:58] <Skymont> how do you reinstall a fresh copy of ubuntu on a dual boot system?
[22:58] <ewi_> use the live cd and choose the correct partition Skymont.
[22:58] <Jordan_U> Draxelis: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. Try #chromium or ##windows.
[22:59] <MrGrymReaper> Anyone know whether the Sony VGN-FS115B can be used on Ubuntu Desktop 10.04 LTS or higher?
[22:59] <Draxelis> Jordan_U,  yea, I know. I dont need it now, but was wondering if anyone has a quick answer:)
[23:00] <{Oscarian-> 'aloha
[23:00] <Skymont> ewi_ is there anything in particular i should pay attention to because last time i tried that i messed up both o/ses
[23:00] <{Oscarian-> just wondering, the default wm in ubuntu
[23:00] <MrGrymReaper> Hey please does anyone know whether Sony VGN-FS115B can be used on Ubuntu Desktop 10.04 LTS or higher?
[23:00] <{Oscarian-> urgh
[23:01] <{Oscarian-> scuse me...\
[23:01] <SuperLag> MrGrymReaper: please don't repeat.
[23:01] <Dr_willis> {Oscarian-,  that would be 'unity'
[23:01] <Dr_willis> which uses Compiz as its window manager
[23:01] <MrGrymReaper> Sorry. No seems to have answered the question.
[23:01] <SuperLag> MrGrymReaper: patience helps :)
[23:02] <Jordan_U> !patience | MrGrymReaper
[23:02] <{Oscarian-> oh, thx...yes, unity has the default "minimise" "close" etc keys at the top left, i like the close button on the right\
[23:02] <{Oscarian-> how can i change that? :/
[23:02] <SuperLag> MrGrymReaper: have you done a google search to see if someone else has used that model with Ubuntu?
[23:02] <Dr_willis> !controls
[23:02] <{Oscarian-> ah, thx
[23:02] <Dr_willis> {Oscarian-,  most questions are also answered at askubuntu.com  ;)  (worth bookmarking the site)
[23:03] <Dr_willis> best would be just to get used to where its at. since when you fullscreen windows, the controlls can move on you.
[23:04] <MrGrymReaper> @SuperLag - They have but with a way out of date version. Need to be able to get updates and/or support if possible.
[23:04] <ewi_> skymont, you just have to know what you're looking at
[23:04] <{Oscarian-> thx willis :) haven't used linux in quite a while so it's just a matter of getting to know it all again for me :)
[23:05] <SuperLag> MrGrymReaper: I'd be very surprised if it didn't work.
[23:05] <ewi_> windows will be on an ntfs partition, you can share /home partitions if you have it that way in the first place.  just reformat the partition to use as / and point to swap, /home, and /ntfs with no formating Skymont
[23:06] <SuperLag> MrGrymReaper: that said, that's no guarantee that *everything* will work right out of the gate
[23:06] <Draxelis> If there's new chromium release, when i check for ubuntu updates, will I be notified?
[23:07] <Skymont> ewi, last time i think there were tons of partitions, so i wasn't sure and it didn't install properly because ubuntu needed stuff on different partitions or something
[23:07] <MrGrymReaper> @SuperLag - I was trying with i386 version of Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and i didn't even boot beyond the first splash screen. I'm going to download 10.04 LTS. I don't mind looking over scripts. But some general ideas of future certification of its hardware would help.
[23:07] <ewi_> i would say a minimum of 4 are needed for a dual boot system Skymont
[23:08] <Draxelis> If there's new chromium release, when i check for ubuntu updates, will I be notified?
[23:08] <Skymont> ewi_ is there a good ubuntu tutorial page for this?
[23:08] <SuperLag> MrGrymReaper: if you want a laptop for Linux where everything works, I'd go with a ThinkPad W530.
[23:08] <ewi_> i would say only if there is a PPA in your sources.list file Draxelis
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[23:08] <Draxelis> ewi_,  i installed chromium via USC
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[23:09] <ewi_> i'm sure there is Skymont
[23:09] <OerHeks> Draxelis, only if you installed it with softwarecenter
[23:09] <Draxelis> OerHeks,  Ye I did.
[23:09] <MrGrymReaper> @SuperLag - Unfortunately I currently only have access to a Sony Vaio.
[23:09] <Draxelis> OerHeks,  the chromium versions on USC aren't lagging behind much?
[23:09] <Skymont> link? :)
[23:10] <OerHeks> Current is Version 25.0.1364.160 Ubuntu 13.04 (25.0.1364.160-0ubuntu3)
[23:11] <ewi_> ...</href?><imgsrc_https://8.8.8.8>www.google.com</head>></html>
[23:11] <SuperLag> MrGrymReaper: well, it seems odd that you couldn't even get past the splash screen. I'd consider going with 13.04 and using the alternate install CD
[23:11] <Draxelis> ok
[23:11] <Draxelis> I have the same
[23:12]  * ewi_ has had good luck with alternate cd's
[23:12] <SuperLag> ewi_: same here
[23:12] <SuperLag> ewi_: I've also had very good luck with this ThinkPad W530. Nice machine. :)
[23:13] <SuperLag> Took a couple of PPA things to get one piece of hardware working. (Fingerprint reader)
[23:16] <pokkerface> hi anyone with good knowledge of networks?
[23:16] <Dr_willis> pokkerface,  you may want to ask a more specific question. there is #networking also
[23:16] <Skymont> ewi_, was that link you posted for someone?
[23:16] <pokkerface> i have my xbox connected to my ubuntu machine through ethernet , i am not getting access to internet
[23:17] <pokkerface> with my xbox
[23:17] <Dr_willis> !ics | pokkerface
[23:17] <Dr_willis> and you may need a crossover cable, or a hub.
[23:17] <ewi_> you'lol have to dig for that one by your self Skymont. ubuntu partitioning
[23:18] <pokkerface> Dr_willis, yes i already have the cable
[23:18] <resizt0r> aww man
[23:19] <resizt0r> i tried sharing a usb drive on the network and now it give some error saying it is already mounted and cannot mount the share
[23:20] <Dr_willis> i find it often easier to share all of /media/    resizt0r , or mount removeable devices by hand and not let them automount
[23:20] <resizt0r> so the drive is /media/Backup
[23:20] <resizt0r> what would i do to make this work
[23:20] <Dr_willis> what filesystem is the drive?
[23:21] <resizt0r> ntfs
[23:21] <Dr_willis> you may need to mount it with ntfs-3g and the proper options to allow all users full access. or let the ntfs-config tool make a /etc/fstab entry for it
[23:21] <MrGrymReaper> @SuperLag - The 13.04 version unfortunately isn't a LTS release and has a very short support lifecycle. It means it will not receive updates for a sufficiently long period of time unlike LTS releases.
[23:21] <resizt0r> /Backup/backup /media/Backup cifs guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8  0  0
[23:21] <resizt0r> this is what i currently added, hoping it would show up as Backup on the network
[23:22] <resizt0r> er, //Backup/backup
[23:22] <ewi_> "sudo umount /path/where/Backup/is/mounted && mount /media /mnt"'
[23:22] <Dr_willis> resizt0r,  you are defining a 'share' thats differnt then a fstab entry... so somthing is confused here.
[23:23] <Dr_willis> what OS is shareing the ntfs-usb drive?
[23:23] <resizt0r> this one
[23:23] <resizt0r> kubuntu 13.04
[23:23] <Draxelis> why libre office isnt updated via regular ubuntu updates?
[23:23] <Dr_willis> so whats your smb.conf look like thats making the share resizt0r ?
[23:24] <resizt0r> i dunno where to find that
[23:24] <resizt0r> i just added what i showed you in fstab
[23:24] <Dr_willis> a fstab entry does NOT make a share.. so how are you shareing it?
[23:24] <Dr_willis> your fstab entry would be to MOUNT a remote share to the local box.
[23:24] <resizt0r> i guess im not sharing it
[23:24] <Dr_willis> Bingo. ;)
[23:25] <Dr_willis> you Mount it somewhere, like /media/backups   then share /media/backups
[23:25] <resizt0r> shouldnt it be like a 5 step process? something simple?
[23:25] <resizt0r> currently it is mounted as /media/Backup
[23:25] <Dr_willis> the fact its a NTFS adds a layer of complecation
[23:25] <Dr_willis> if the user has full rights to it.. try right clicking on the folder and shareing it
[23:25] <resizt0r> see, i was hoping it'd be as easy as right clicking, go to sharing tab, select to share the drive with the checkbox
[23:26] <resizt0r> which is how it should work
[23:26] <Dr_willis> if you want a more perment share. you will want to make a smb.conf entry for it
[23:26] <resizt0r> if things were logical
[23:26] <resizt0r> i want it permanant
[23:26] <Dr_willis> resizt0r,  what if you dident have a GUI desktop? whats logical then?
[23:26] <resizt0r> i would reformat
[23:26] <resizt0r> to a gui desktop
[23:26] <resizt0r> that would be logical
[23:26] <Dr_willis> samba shares are normally defined in smb.conf     the whole 'user made shares' is a relatively new feature of Linux
[23:26] <resizt0r> ok so
[23:26] <resizt0r> i need to find smb.conf
[23:27] <Dr_willis> so i have no idea why you have that fstab entry.
[23:27] <resizt0r> and put what
[23:27] <resizt0r> "share my damn drive.now"
[23:27] <resizt0r> well in the guide in the first link
[23:27] <resizt0r> share samba
[23:27] <wheatthin> samba shares can be mounted in fstab
[23:27] <Dr_willis> wheatthin,  hes defining a share in the fstab...
[23:27] <Dr_willis> or tryign to.
[23:28] <Dr_willis> see where 'mount' says its mounted to
[23:28] <resizt0r> mount
[23:28] <resizt0r> where is that
[23:28] <resizt0r> is that a program
[23:28] <Dr_willis> thats a command you type
[23:28] <nommanic> hi
[23:28] <Dr_willis> You may have a bit of learning to do i think resizt0r
[23:29] <resizt0r> i just need my drive shared
[23:29] <resizt0r> learning can come later
[23:29] <Dr_willis> resizt0r,  you also said you needed it permently.. that adds more compelxity
[23:29] <resizt0r> the networking difficulties are the main reason i havent fully dedicated myself to linux as of yet
[23:29] <Dr_willis> simple case..  reboot.. plug it in, access it..  right click on the folder it is, and select share.
[23:29] <resizt0r> ive done that
[23:29] <resizt0r> ten times over
[23:29] <Dr_willis> ie: /media/yourusername/whatever
[23:30] <resizt0r> it doesnt show up in windows
[23:30] <ewi_> lulz
[23:30] <h00k> So, I set up the Twitter permissions, and I just got a notification that someone responded to a tweet, but I can't...like...see any Twitter client installed. Any protips?
[23:30] <wheatthin> in windows you have to map a network drive
[23:30] <Dr_willis> resizt0r,  you did make it a GUEST share?
[23:30] <resizt0r> every single time i do that i open the share tab and all the settings are erased
[23:30] <resizt0r> as if i never set them at all
[23:30] <Dr_willis> you do not 'have' to map it as a network drive.
[23:30] <resizt0r> i tried it with user/pass
[23:30] <resizt0r> and guess
[23:30] <wheatthin> in order to keep remounting it under windows
[23:30] <resizt0r> guest*
[23:30] <ewi_> you need to open your file manager with sudo?
[23:30] <resizt0r> and with no users defined at all
[23:30] <Dr_willis> resizt0r,  as a test  make a folder in your HOME and try shareing it.. to see if samba is in fact working
[23:31] <Dr_willis> resizt0r,  your user has a seperate 'samba' password that can be differnt then their login password. you can set it via 'sudo smbpasswd username'   i norally set mine to be the same as my login password.
[23:31] <resizt0r> ok i shared it
[23:32] <MonkWitDaFunk> Hi users of ubuntu channel, how do i use my keyboard to guarantee a proper shut.down?
[23:32] <resizt0r> now i'll have to go to the next room to see if its anywhere in the network from the windows laptop
[23:32] <resizt0r> brb
[23:32] <kant_> 12.04 trying to upgrade to 12.10. I keep getting this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/5775592/ . Any idea?
[23:32] <Dr_willis> resizt0r,  it can take windows some time to see the new shares also.
[23:33] <wheatthin> Dr_willis, it's faster by adding a network drive in windows
[23:34] <wheatthin> that way you don't have to wait for netbios to recognize it
[23:34] <resizt0r> ok
[23:34] <fbiondip> Is it good idea changing kernel 3.8 to 3.9 in 13.04?
[23:34] <resizt0r> i made a folder called share in my home dir, shared with samba, and it works fantastically
[23:34] <resizt0r> now if i could just share my backup drive, i'd be set
[23:35] <MonkWitDaFunk> Fbiondip, you can change it but the old kernel may still be on your filesystem
[23:35] <Dr_willis> resizt0r,  i would remove that wrong fstab entry you have.  for starters
[23:35] <resizt0r> alright
[23:35] <ewi_> filemanager needs super user
[23:36] <ewi_> can't change attributes on an admin mount without sudo resizt0r
[23:36] <Dr_willis> i would also then unmount the flash drive (via the file manager if you can)  and  then  install/run ntfs-config to let it auto-make a fstab entry for it.
[23:36] <Dr_willis> ewi_,  so use gksudo to run your file manager.
[23:36] <Dr_willis> ewi_,  but be carefull with it.
[23:36] <resizt0r> ok
[23:37] <resizt0r> erased the entry in fstab
[23:37] <resizt0r> using VIM
[23:37] <StaticLNX> can someone give me a hand with a network problem? http://pastebin.com/RDRFjium
[23:37] <Dr_willis> and you dont really change mountpoint permissions on NTFS,  via the file manager
[23:37] <fbiondip> MonkWitDaFunk is there any problem the old kernels  still stay in the fs?
[23:37] <Dr_willis> !info ntfs-config
[23:37] <ewi_> can share with samba through nautilus right?
[23:37] <wheatthin> StaticLNX, what are you trying to do?
[23:38] <resizt0r> i have dolphin
[23:38] <resizt0r> and samba
[23:38] <MonkWitDaFunk> Fbiondip, no.
[23:38] <wheatthin> StaticLNX, You'll need to fix network
[23:38] <MonkWitDaFunk> Unless you dont have enough free space
[23:38] <Dr_willis> ewi_,  the fact its a NTFS on a removeable flash - adds complexity to the issue
[23:39] <StaticLNX> I cant get it to start
[23:39] <resizt0r> its not flash
[23:39] <resizt0r> its a desktop hard drive
[23:39] <Dr_willis> resizt0r,  internal to the pc? or removeable?
[23:39] <resizt0r> 2TB
[23:39] <MonkWitDaFunk> Is there any way to use my keyboard to guarantee a proper shut down?
[23:39] <resizt0r> removable usb3.0
[23:39] <Dr_willis> so as far as the system cares.. its the same as a flash drive.
[23:40] <Dr_willis> its removeable, so it gets auto mounted on access. unless you make a fstab entry
[23:40] <StaticLNX> wheatthin, fix network? huh?
[23:40] <resizt0r> so what's wrong with making an entry?
[23:40] <resizt0r> i'll make 20 entries if i have to to get it to work
[23:40] <Dr_willis> resizt0r,  thats what 'ntfs-config' does..     it makes a fstab entry for you....
[23:40] <usr13> StaticLNX: What is broken?
[23:40] <resizt0r> what do i type
[23:41] <usr13> StaticLNX: (Exlpain  your situation in more detail.)
[23:41] <Dr_willis> resizt0r,  install and run 'ntfs-config'
[23:41] <Dr_willis> unless you want to read up on the nfts-3g guides/wiki page and add an entry by hand.
[23:41] <ewi_> StaticLNX: what's the issue?
[23:42] <fbiondip> I have an extra 70 Gb Sata installed ,so i think there should'nt be pace problms.the thing is since i iupgradede  i feel the laptop clumsier
[23:42] <StaticLNX> my nic isnt getting the static ip I setup in /etc/network/interfaces
[23:42] <resizt0r> ok
[23:43] <ewi_> ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.10
[23:43] <resizt0r> all write support is activated
[23:43] <Dr_willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/105473/samba-network-sharing-ntfs-drives-and-root-permissions-from-local-drives          has some example fstab entries.
[23:43] <resizt0r> i used ntfs-config
[23:43] <resizt0r> the deed is done
[23:43] <usr13> StaticLNX: Are you running nm-applet?
[23:43] <Dr_willis> look at the /etc/fstab now and see what changes it made.
[23:43] <ziggypop> fy th3worldisyours
[23:43] <usr13> StaticLNX: Is this a server?  Or is it a desktop PC?
[23:43] <Dr_willis> should be a  line with 'ntfs-3g' in it.
[23:44] <resizt0r> UUID=02C46346C4633AD5	/media/Backup	ntfs-3g	defaults,nosuid,nodev,locale=en_US.UTF-8	0	0
[23:44] <Dr_willis> the system will expect that USB to be plugged in when the system boots from now on.
[23:45] <resizt0r> that's fine, it always is
[23:45] <resizt0r> it's a permanent fixture
[23:45] <ewi_> what happens if it's not plugged in
[23:45] <wheatthin> Dr_willis, so add the usb to fstab
[23:45] <ewi_> lag on boot?
[23:45] <Dr_willis> wheatthin,  you seem to be lagged... we allready did.. ;)
[23:45] <StaticLNX> usr13, not running nmapplet and its a server
[23:45] <Dr_willis> ewi_,  it will print a message about it and you will need to hit a key
[23:45] <resizt0r> so now can i just right click > sharing > and select the box to share?
[23:45] <usr13> StaticLNX: If you want eth0 to use dhcp, change that protion of the file, Line 1) auto eth0 Line 2)  iface eth0 inet dhcp
[23:46] <Dr_willis> resizt0r,  check 'mount' command and see if its mounted somwehere else.. or just reboot and let it auto mount to test that it does mount properly
[23:46] <StaticLNX> static ip
[23:46] <Dr_willis> resizt0r,  you  might want to double check that /media/Backup does exist befor you reboot
[23:47] <acer> jest tu tos
[23:47] <resizt0r> it is mounted
[23:47] <acer> ktos
[23:47] <Dr_willis> resizt0r,  mounted where?
[23:47] <resizt0r> im sure it exists
[23:47] <StaticLNX> static ip with a classless ip of 10.0.0.10 and subnet of 255.255.255.0
[23:47] <resizt0r> /dev/sdf1 on /media/Backup type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[23:48] <resizt0r> that is from 'mount'
[23:48] <Dr_willis> resizt0r,  that may be the OLD mount entry.    the options seem different.
[23:48] <acer> jakis polak??
[23:48] <resizt0r> brb
[23:48] <resizt0r> reboot
[23:49] <SonikkuAmerica> !po | acer
[23:49] <SonikkuAmerica> !pl | acer
[23:49] <acer> ok dzieki
[23:51] <usr13> StaticLNX: Yes I see that's what you have now. Maybe you just need to restart the network.  sudo service networking restart
[23:52] <resizt0r> looks like it mounted itself fine
[23:52] <usr13> StaticLNX: Does that work for you?
[23:52] <StaticLNX> no =\
[23:53] <usr13> StaticLNX: sudo ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.10 ; sudo route add default gw 10.0.0.1
[23:55] <usr13> StaticLNX: The above command should [temporarily] get your interface to do what you want it to do.  Right?
[23:57] <usr13> StaticLNX: service networking start   #Is the command to activate it as per the config file /etc/network/interfaces
[23:57] <StaticLNX> ok
[23:57] <StaticLNX> sec
[23:58] <fwilson> hello
[23:58] <fwilson> i'm having trouble installing anything
[23:58] <asterismo> does anyone knows what set of applications are currently available in ubuntu tablet development release? like mail client, music and video player, browser?
[23:58] <fwilson> i get the error  files list file for package `fake-hwclock' contains empty filename
[23:58] <usr13> StaticLNX: ls -l /etc/init.d/networking   #Do you see  -rwxr-xr-x  ?
[23:58] <wheatthin> asterismo, assuming you're looking for an ARM architecture
[23:58] <StaticLNX> service networking start returned networking stop/waiting
[23:58] <asterismo> yes
[23:59] <wheatthin> asterismo, so google search ubuntu arm
[23:59] <arooni-mobile> does editing /etc/anacrontab .... execute in sudo mode?  if not; how can i run something thru anacrontab in sudo (i need to turn off some networking stuff daily)
[23:59] <kostkon> asterismo, you could start with the core apps https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps
[23:59] <StaticLNX> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2797 Feb 13  2012 /etc/init.d/networking
[23:59] <usr13> StaticLNX: sudo service networking start    #*sudo*
[23:59] <asterismo> wheatthin, yes, but everybody is saying that is "preview content" what is shipped in ubuntu touch