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| delac | On Raring (+ GNOME3 PPA) using gnome-session-fallback 3.8.0-0ubuntu1~raring1. But wasn't it announced that 3.8 would not have fallback mode? Does anyone know if that decision has been reverted or why there is such backage on GNOME3 PPA? | 19:43 |
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| bjsnider | i thought fallback was deceased too | 19:48 |
| bjsnider | you have the classic mode available | 19:48 |
| SonikkuAmerica | delac: You have to install gnome-shell-extensions to enable classic mode. Fallback is dead, RIP. Want GNOME 2? Try MATE | 19:49 |
| delac | yes, that is what I thought. So WHY does it still exist? | 19:49 |
| SonikkuAmerica | delac: No one thought to remove it...? | 19:51 |
| delac | SonikkuAmerica: more like: why did they make 3.8 version of it if they plan to remove the thing? | 19:52 |
| jbicha | delac: what do you mean "breakage"? | 19:52 |
| delac | jbicha: what? | 19:52 |
| tommie-lie | jbicha: "backage" = "package" | 19:52 |
| tommie-lie | not breakage | 19:53 |
| delac | delac: sry, typo | 19:53 |
| jbicha | ah, well gnome-panel still sort of works and some people like it | 19:53 |
| SonikkuAmerica | jbicha: There are all sorts of nice white polygons where stuff used to be... | 19:53 |
| jbicha | some people like white polygons ;) | 19:53 |
| delac | so someone just repackaged the 3.6 version and hoped it would work? | 19:54 |
| SonikkuAmerica | What about white polygons that hide crucial GNOME tasks? | 19:54 |
| jbicha | are you using Metacity (No Effects) or Compiz? | 19:55 |
| delac | jbicha: compiz | 19:55 |
| jbicha | you're welcome to file bugs for things that don't work as Edubuntu is still attempting to ship gnome-panel by default; the problem is that it need developers but the developers are all working on GNOME Shell, Unity or other stuff | 19:56 |
| delac | jbicha: so the package is not really maintained anymore and probably removed as soon as it stops working? | 19:57 |
| jbicha | it's minimally maintained but no it won't be removed as long as Edubuntu still uses it | 19:58 |
| * SonikkuAmerica wonders why Edubuntu won't ship MATE | 19:59 | |
| jbicha | the bugs in general are fixable; it just needs developers that care | 19:59 |
| jbicha | I believe MATE is just as broken (semi-working) with GNOME 3.8; MATE also has bugs of its own but more importantly isn't in Debian or Ubuntu yet | 20:01 |
| jbicha | if all you need is gnome-panel & related pieces, then gnome-panel 3.6/3.7 is a lot better and easier to maintain than a complete gnome2 fork | 20:02 |
| bjsnider | delac, why not use gnome-shell with the classic extensions? | 20:21 |
| delac | bjsnider: I have a custom setup built around compiz expo plugin that I like very much. But I'm going to migrate to Gnome Shell probably sooner than later due to other reasons. | 20:37 |
| bjsnider | gnome-shell does the same thing as the expo plugin in overview mode | 20:38 |
| delac | bjsnider: not quite | 20:39 |
| delac | delac: but I think it might be possible to create plugin so that it did | 20:40 |
| n0yd | hey guyds | 22:07 |
| n0yd | any of the regulars around? A;ll my normal stuff is working, but I just added the cinnmon ppa (i have lots of ppas), and I am running to depenendcy hell that I fcannoyt figure it out | 22:08 |
| SonikkuAmerica | n0yd: Oh hello | 22:09 |
| SonikkuAmerica | n0yd: Dependency hell? Pastebin please :) | 22:09 |
| n0yd | one sec | 22:09 |
| n0yd | Here is the pastebin | 22:10 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Where? | 22:11 |
| n0yd | Bascially., i use gnome30ubuntu as my nomrm al DE/WM, b but I also use nemo as myu FM. Wel;l oi figured why not add the [ppa for nightlies of cinnamon fror shgit and giggles | 22:11 |
| n0yd | http://pastebin.com/MyH7hzXs | 22:11 |
| n0yd | doh, my bad | 22:11 |
| n0yd | :P | 22:11 |
| n0yd | ubuntu-gnome* | 22:11 |
| jbicha | you don't need that ppa to use nemo since nemo is available in raring now | 22:15 |
| SonikkuAmerica | A solution seems to be to install caribou along with it, even though it's not supposed to be a dependency. | 22:16 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Oh look: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2116217&p=12511255#post12511255 | 22:16 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Post by none other than jbicha himself. | 22:17 |
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| jbicha | if you want to use cinnamon and GNOME 3.8 I believe you'll need to upgrade to saucy | 22:44 |
| SonikkuAmerica | jbicha: Huh? I use GNOME 3.8 with Raring with barely a problem. (The problem being with Ubuntu Tweak.) | 22:45 |
| delac | what problem there is with Tweak? | 22:46 |
| delac | any way to make Shell lighter for netbooks? Maybe disable some animations? | 22:47 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Tweak won't draw. | 22:49 |
| delac | does not seem to be problem from me. (only problem is that the Tweak window is too high for my 1024x600 netbook screen) | 22:51 |
| delac | hmm, are automatic extension updates in 3.8 or is this still on planning? | 23:16 |
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