[00:41] I just had a look at the stats for this channel, they're really cool! [00:41] I've never seen anything like that on a IRC before. [00:44] haha, afaik they are generated by a tool called pisg, it's open source and you can run it on any channel. [07:22] Good morning [07:30] morning [07:50] yeah, I run pisg on another channel, all you need is constant logs [07:55] Morning all [08:13] Good morning peeps :) [08:14] Yes! [08:14] Well, I'm glad to be so right for a change [08:16] anyone know how to change keybindings in non-unity distros? [08:17] http://tumbleweed.popey.com/ [08:19] It amuses me that the image is flipped [08:20] need to try to remap the super+L command [08:21] To lock the system? [08:21] Aka windows [08:21] yesh [08:22] gnome-screensaver is buggy so i had to replace it with sxcreensaver [08:22] but now super+L no longer works [08:23] I think I did it when I used to use xubuntu (xfce) [08:23] Now idea how though :) [08:23] send it back and get a refund [08:23] * popey ponders breakfast [08:23] * neuro has already pondered [08:24] poached eggs on a toasted bagel I think [08:24] * popey wanders off [08:24] 2x rolls with square+links sausage [08:24] + le tea [08:24] * bigcalm looks at his waist line and hears his tummy grumble [08:25] heh [08:27] Rice Krispies is what I had [08:28] I had a cup of tea. [08:31] Good morning all, happy Autistic Pride Day! :-D [08:32] anyone running gnome3? [08:33] happy autistic what now? [08:33] ubuntu one "a file is no longer published" when trying to publish a screnshot :S [08:33] * popey points mungbean at JamesTait [08:34] (for u1, not g3) [08:34] Where do you see that message, mungbean? [08:34] in the indicator [08:35] * neuro has googled (or more accurately has duckducked) and is wondering why 18th June ... [08:35] usually says "file puslibhsed at url" [08:35] I didnt think this whole "poached egg on a dough product with a hole in the middle" thing through [08:35] i can try killing some daemons [08:35] puslibhsed ... has someone gotten their translations for English (UK) in a twist? :> [08:35] good morning everyone, [08:35] re my keyboard issue,wonder if other peope are missing the optino to add custom shortcuts: http://i.imgur.com/nucW7Km.png [08:35] WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT IT [08:36] poached eggs are good about it [08:36] my cup of tea is depleted, no more good can come from this day [08:37] i have double-size mugs here for daytime cofee [08:37] thinking they should make triple size mugs [08:37] they're called "jugs" [08:37] or buckets. [08:38] or barrels [08:39] popey, I think I'm with you on that. [08:40] mungbean, I don't really know about the indicator, but I imagine it just uses our REST API. You're best off asking in #ubuntuone when the desktop guys arrive in a couple of hours. [08:40] ok, not a common error then i guess, i'll try later ta [08:41] is the free limit 4 or 5 gb? [08:41] 5GB [08:41] i was using exactly 4.0gb so was suspicious [08:42] publishing does work via teh website [08:42] i didn't even notice that google had gone a bit generous and effectively bumped up storage limits for gmail by unifying gmail+drive storage [08:43] which was nice, as my gafyd mailbox was pushing up against its 10 gig limit; it's now 15 \o/ [08:46] mungbean, what about via the cli? [08:46] * JamesTait is looking at the indicator-sync source now. [08:46] "It's a UNIX system - I know this!" [08:47] i should state that i'm using elementary with plugin for ubuntuone [08:47] cli does the same problem [08:48] u1sdtool --publish-file Ubuntu\ One/Screenshot\ from\ 2012-12-17\ 13\:54\:57.png [08:48] indicator pops up [08:48] command hasn't returned yet [08:55] porridge ♥ [08:56] mungbean, as a test, do you have a file without spaces in the filename that you can try? [08:57] * popey stabs that filename format for screenshots [08:57] it's _mental_ [08:57] spaces _and_ colons [08:58] I've always thought it was a bit odd [08:58] it's like someone thought you'd be using a more friendly interface to access the files! [08:58] fix bug, push upstream? [08:58] Mind you, unpublishing a file via the cli gives me "A share link is no longer available" from the indicator, which is different from what mungbean reported. I might not be the best tester, given that I almost certainly have the nightly PPA. [08:59] Command still hasn't returned, either. [09:02] and people ask me why i don't use u1 ... ;) [09:02] well, they don't, actually [09:03] bah, i keep forgetting Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours" is only 45 mins long [09:03] need a choon suggestion [09:04] offline gmail = win [09:04] Iron Maiden: Brave New World [09:04] too late, found some freezepop [09:05] freezepop? [09:05] freezepop [09:05] is that a band? genre? [09:05] http://lmgtfy.com/?q=freezepop [09:06] http://www.socwall.com/desktop-wallpaper/342/freezepop-by-valerie/ so not this then? [09:07] actually yes [09:07] that's from their 2004 album [09:07] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fancy_Ultra%E2%80%A2Fresh [09:07] oh [09:07] JamesTait: just saw the message [09:08] hold on [09:09] I've got as far as "it calls the change_public_access method on the public_files DBus interface" and now I'm not sure. [09:09] so it's not just me breaking things? [09:09] i'm happy to wait [09:09] noticed it the other day [09:09] haven't rebooted since though [09:10] you're more patient than i'd be ;) [09:10] its a free account so meh [09:10] or are we all supposed to act autistic on APD? [09:11] oooooooh *handbag* :) [09:11] http://handbag.popey.com/ [09:11] * mungbean ducks [09:11] yay, i finally got to use that [09:11] does popey have a subdomain for everything? [09:11] if he doesn't, he should have [09:12] maybe we should get lubotu3 to do ascii art of tumbleweed [09:12] "Oops! Google Chrome could not find felgerkarb.popey.com" ... seems not [09:12] mungbean, well, I don't really know. :) I can publish a file from the cli here, even with spaces in the filename. [09:13] But "Works For Me" isn't a solution. [09:13] mungbean, your patience and assistance in diagnosing the problem is appreciated. :) [09:14] your reward is FEELING AWESOME [09:14] * mungbean sings greensleeves [09:14] http://askubuntu.com/questions/309448/publish-a-file-fails-cannot-access-web-link-a-file-is-no-longer-published [09:15] well at least you know it's not just you [09:15] interestingly its new [09:16] probably since my last update === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [09:16] hehe, i haven't shared anything for a while.. just picked a random pic and shared it http://ubuntuone.com/2WZJ0aZMVc3Gh8il3ZEB3H [09:16] *rando [09:16] it's loading sideways [09:16] what black magic is this? [09:17] its rotated [09:17] so it's loading normally, but rendered sideways due to exif data I suspect [09:17] Oh my! popey, that's disgusting! [09:17] https://twitter.com/ghalfacree/status/344763611991908353 [09:17] it is? oh [09:17] :-P [09:18] * JamesTait chuckles as the rest of the channel suddenly clicks the link. [09:18] it belongs to sam [09:18] i think it's for holding a pair of glasses [09:18] JamesTait: and you know this, how? [09:19] * neuro sniffs for scents of NSA or GCHQ [09:19] neuro, I have CCTV installed in all your houses? [09:19] aaaaaaaaaah [09:19] * neuro runs for the underwear drawer [09:19] HAHAHA I'm kidding [09:19] because when would I run anywhere, amirite? [09:19] I know. :-P [09:20] aaaaaaah! [09:21] earlier joking aside, i'd actually use ubuntu one more, but i find the mac client too kludgy, and the headless mode is mad [09:22] neuro, if you could expand upon the deficiencies of the Mac client in the way of bug reports, our client team would like to hear about it. [09:23] it's nothing that demands a bug per se [09:23] Or even via the feedback form. [09:23] it's just not ... Mac enough [09:23] which i know is a tad unfair [09:24] https://one.ubuntu.com/help/contact/ [09:24] the mac clients for dropbox and gdrive are much more integrated, and thus i prefer those [09:24] and there i shall leave it :) [09:24] I'm not a mac user at all, you see, so I'm not much use in that department. [09:25] sure, don't worry about it [09:25] i'm a bit of an oddity in here, i don't run ubuntu desktop at all [09:26] i'm mainly mac here with a couple of sadly necessary windows machines [09:32] any ideas, of a phone, that preferably has a hw keyboard, android, and is around £100/£150 mark. ? [09:32] hw keyboard can't be many to choose from [09:33] exactly. thats why i am asking advice. [09:33] but it isnt as crucial, there are some good sw keyboards around now. [09:34] amusingly if I go to orange website and look at the filters "hardware keyboard" isn't even an option [09:34] in fact the only ones i can see are blackberry or cheap dumbphones like the Nokia Asha 300, and they only have numeric keyboards [09:34] interesting, [09:35] I'd love a modern day Nokia N950 [09:35] still know a fair few people who have them [09:35] brobostigon: when you say "android" ... [09:35] neuro: android 4.2 and above or flashable. [09:36] http://www.androidauthority.com/best-keyboard-qwerty-android-phones-2012-55315/ [09:36] good luck with that [09:36] 4.1* [09:36] thank you popey [09:37] that was the result of "android phone hardware keyboard" into google [09:37] actually, i take it back [09:37] http://www.expansys.com/samsung-galaxy-chat-b5330-uk-black-241632/ [09:37] http://theunlockr.com/2012/12/29/how-to-root-the-samsung-galaxy-chat-b5330/ [09:37] http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Galaxy-Andoid-Simfree-Mobile/dp/B009URTKWI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1371548259&sr=8-1&keywords=B5330 [09:37] better pic [09:38] i used to be adamant that hardware keyboards were the way forward [09:38] then bought an htc hero and haven't had a hardware kb device since [09:38] brobostigon: and apparently samsung is pushing kosher 4.1.2 updates for the chat [09:38] popey: i thought the same til i used an iphone [09:38] loads of phones linked from that amazon page [09:38] neuro: interesting. [09:39] brobostigon: yeah, it looks like a not bad phone if you desperately want the hw keyb and don't care too much about performance [09:39] i used to type really fast on my psion revo [09:39] it's only got an 850Mhz apu [09:39] loving this device btw http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00BQ5KHJW [09:39] but pricewise it's in line with what you're after [09:40] yeah, i used to type one handed on my Nokia N82, in my pocket ☻ [09:40] neuro: as i said, it would be nice, but not crucial, as there are some good sw kayboards around now. [09:40] popey: i have two of these little guys: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B003F5WEMO [09:41] twee [09:41] fits nicely into one of my car phone holder thingies [09:42] i found I could put the anker in one back pocket, phone in the other back pocket with usb cable between to charge ☻ [09:42] ← NERD [09:42] for drives down to engerland, i swap it out when i get to norton canes on the m6 toll [09:42] lol [09:42] then wonder why your cheeks are getting toasty [09:45] incidentally, bought these in the same amazon order [09:45] http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005IHLHCA [09:45] probably the best speakers of that size i've ever bought [09:46] Does anybody else here get a crackle when skype plays system sounds? [09:46] cheapo [09:46] and i paid 32 quid for them; at 20 quid they're a bloomin' steal [09:46] i turn of system sounds in skype [09:47] popey: so you don't like to hear it ringing? [09:47] skype's sounds are aaaaaaanoooooooyyyiiiiinngg [09:47] i dont like hearing anything from skype [09:47] blip-bloop [09:47] neuro: what batteries does that take? [09:47] bloop-blip-bluup [09:47] popey: the speakers? [09:47] oh, charges over usb? [09:47] neato [09:47] yeah [09:47] it has an on-off switch [09:48] which is cutely reversed [09:48] it pops *out* for on, and pushes in for off [09:48] is it a usb audio device too? [09:48] or just power over usb? [09:48] no [09:48] power over usb, audio over 3.5mm [09:48] ta [09:48] only downside is the cable lengths are a touch short [09:48] i can't clip the speakers to my mbp screen [09:49] but then i'm going outside the scope of the product, i guess [09:49] so i just put them on top of the keyb when watching stuff [09:49] comes with a cute little bag to put them in when not using them [09:50] and the cables have pathed ducts in the speaker casing to tuck them away when not being used [09:53] Why is Amazon telling me that they have 20% off nappies? [09:53] handy to know [09:53] because they're pimping their Amazon Family thing [09:53] i'm getting it too [09:53] you can subscribe to nappy deliveries [09:54] Ewww [09:54] it's basically Prime with 20% off nappies [09:57] * popey apt-get upgrades his phone [09:57] \o/ checkers [09:58] lol [09:58] as much as i'm currently unimpressed with ubuntu phone, and as much as i think it's pointless ssh'ing into a phone ... that's still pretty cool :) [09:59] * DJones hopes that hardware & software for Ubuntu phones will be publicly available by the time he comes to replace his phone next year [09:59] neuro: phones are computing devices [09:59] i know, i know [09:59] DJones: target is april next year [09:59] calling things phones is a bit silly nowadays [09:59] might as well call it a camera [09:59] 13.10 should see software release you could put on phone and "use" [10:00] what other devices have a GSM stack in them? [10:00] as far as i'm concerned, if it has a cellular modem, a speaker+mic and software to make calls on it, and is in a "phone"-like form factor, it's a phone [10:00] popey: That'll be good, not due to upgrade until autumn anyway, should be plenty of time for bugs/issues in 'real world use' to be sorted outr [10:00] other devices have cameras in them (tablet, camera) but only "phones" have a gsm stack [10:00] +1 [10:00] mungbean is taking international autism day too seriously ㋛ [10:00] some cameras have gsm stacks [10:01] true ☻ [10:01] "but my TV has a PVR so it's not a Tv anymore" etc [10:01] and the samsung galaxy camera is basically an inverted galaxy S2 [10:01] instead of being a phone with a touchscreen that happens to have a camera [10:02] it's a camera with a touchscreen that happens to have a phone [10:02] who was the US leader who put a youtube video out to ask what we call them instead of phones? [10:02] or at least an android-compatible APU with cellular radios [10:02] it was someone recently [10:02] oh it was thingy [10:02] popey: If you find that Canonical look for people to beta test the hardware/software and have demo phones to give out, let me now, I'll put my name on the list of volunteers :) [10:02] republican bloke [10:02] heh DJones after me ㋛ [10:03] that's the bunny ... Newt Gingrich [10:03] Definatly after you [10:04] http://youtu.be/jmKVRVX4q-k [10:04] "We're Really Puzzled" [10:04] no Newt, you are :) [10:04] well, you and mungbean [10:04] http://what-if.xkcd.com/50/ is delightful [10:04] hi all. having problems with two GTX550 Ti's. I got 13.04 running with one, but if I connect the other it completely died (had to reinstall ubuntu :/) [10:04] ohhhh it's tuesday [10:04] * neuro hugs popey [10:04] * popey hugs AlanBell [10:05] It's great how authorising Facebook as an Online Account doesn't work :) [10:05] Morning all [10:06] why aye [10:08] popey: yes, delightful [10:08] the alt/title tags are, as always, genius [10:09] "The mercury one was going to be the least deadly, wasn't it" [10:10] this one is currently my favourite: http://what-if.xkcd.com/35/ [10:10] "One more notch." [10:11] i need to show these to Sophie [10:12] oohhh, i have never read the alt tags on that one [10:12] i might print one out and put it in her school bag and see if she finds it [10:12] "this one has expressed concern that rogue states may gain access to hair dryer dial labelling technology" [10:25] http://what-if.xkcd.com/40/ Is a bit dodgy given what happened in Boston [10:26] that's a bit like saying the episode of The X-Files-spinoff The Lone Gunman where they had to avert a plane crashing into the World Trade Center was a bit dodgy given what happened on 9/11 [10:49] TerminalIDE seems to be a bit of an overkill for me using it just as an SSH client. Any recommendations for a standalone SSH client on android? [10:51] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.connectbot [10:53] bigcalm: you can get the irssi client for your phone/tablet it does ssh + irssi connection :) [10:53] bigcalm: that's a connectbot product too [10:54] davmor2: x y [10:54] davmor2: I want an ssh client, not an irc client [10:54] neuro: ta [10:55] bigcalm: it is the connectbot ssh client + mods for irssi to make that useable [10:56] davmor2: have you considered that I might want to use SSH for something other than IRC? [10:56] bigcalm: it is the ssh client plus things like swipe left and right to change channel etc, I found I didn't need both when the one did everything I needed [10:56] bigcalm: it is the same ssh client + mods [10:56] juice is also a good irc client [10:56] which does mosh [10:56] * popey now uses mosh instead of ssh directly [10:57] * bigcalm stamps his foot - I don't want to do IRC over my phone [10:58] bigcalm: if it's there you'll use it though :P [10:58] * brobostigon also uses mosh, perticulerly useful on my sometimes unstable phone connection. [10:59] I think popey meant 'ssh' when he said 'irc', perhaps? [11:05] oops, yes [11:05] i dont mean irc at all ☻ just ssh [12:03] weatherman promised 25 degrees today [12:03] liar [12:04] I think, technically, he only *forecast* that [12:05] whos side are you on? [12:07] http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-2343790/Call-centres-BBC-Three-programme-hit-225-000-fine-nuisance-PPI-calls.html?ito=feeds-newsxml [12:07] well, I'm in an air conditioned room all day, this is an argument I'm not having :) [12:19] My goodness, that was an odd game [12:27] incredipede bigcalm ? [12:29] heh [12:30] on level2 , am i supposed to be able to use the mouse to stretch legs etc? [12:33] seem to be stuck using a and D keys only [12:35] muller do a fruit corner type thing that is in fact a big after eight mint. [12:38] i managed to get through about 6 levels [12:38] could you make new legs etc? [12:38] no [12:38] bug? [12:38] didnt try [12:38] didnt know you could [12:38] thats the point [12:38] i just got through the levels with what I had and a/d [12:38] that would be lame [12:39] another game I really like is pax-britannica [12:39] !info pax-britannica [12:39] pax-britannica (source: pax-britannica): one-button multi-player real-time strategy game. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-2 (quantal), package size 149 kB, installed size 383 kB [12:39] run incredipede and click the cogs and click help [12:45] popey: we have a press screening for our latest movie netx week, the ubuntu podcast should go see it and interview ian livingstone and our main producer [12:46] it is clearly ubuntu related seeing how i am an ubuntu user [12:46] * christel nods [12:46] (i saw your "we need people to interview" thing) :) [12:47] (and it would be a bit cool of you to have ian livingstone on air because i am sure you're all old enough to have enjoyed his fighting fantasy books in your youth... and he is a bit of a geek and totally cute) [12:47] hah [12:47] never heard of him ☻ [12:47] he was the founder of games workshop... [12:48] ££ [12:48] heard of that ☻ [12:48] popey: surely you read fighting fantasy? [12:48] and is the presiident of uh eidos interactive [12:48] nope [12:48] he is lara croft's dad [12:49] he holds an OBE and a CBE for "services to the computer gaming industry" ;) [12:49] he's a lovely man :) [12:49] i enjoy working with him, it is tres fun :) [12:49] ha! Ian Livingstone. He was at the first LugRadio Live :) [12:50] no he wasn't. [12:50] Ian Bell was. From Elite :) [12:50] http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1937035674/leadwerks-build-linux-games-on-linux [12:50] pondering backing that [12:50] I saw that [12:50] but I basically have no interest in making 3d games. Or the skill to do so... [12:51] ditto ☻ [12:51] i like t-shirts though [12:55] http://www.cocos2d-x.org/ also looks interesting [13:05] browsers seem to create so much i/o . i wonder what they are doing [13:18] mungbean: do you have an add blocker in place? [13:19] yes [13:20] mungbean: I'm wondering if that is partially responsible i/o here and memory and cpu is really low, my email client is the thing using the most [13:21] sounds strange [13:22] mungbean: I have 4 chromium windows open with a minimum of 5 active tabs in each, thunderbird is using 3 times the memory and twice the cpu [13:23] maybe webistes are just a lot richer than before [13:23] facebook regularly kills my pc [13:24] mungbean: try disabling the add block and see if it lowers the high utilization for you [13:24] think i'll need to close browser first to unload stuffs [13:24] i have 40 tabs open atm [13:25] mungbean: that might be why then :) [13:25] i seriously doubt disabling adblock will improve things [13:25] (although on my laptop at homei can have 2 tabs and still disk wakes up) [13:25] more likely to make things worse [13:25] i just farted audibly in the office. embarassing [13:25] i have 80 tabs open [13:25] mem usage? [13:26] iotop doesn't show much going on [13:26] KiB Mem: 8057840 total, 6937944 used, 1119896 free, 77780 buffers [13:26] KiB Swap: 8267772 total, 2795716 used, 5472056 free, 792316 cached [13:27] top -b | grep firefox ? [13:28] i dont use firefox, chromium ☻ [13:28] i think its cos the PC is now on the desk, i can hear disk inkling [13:28] i've tried them all [13:28] jbd2/sda6-8 [13:29] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5777091/ [13:30] it all adds up [13:30] i only have 4gb ram [13:34] should i always choose a windows 64-bit version when loading windows 7 onto a well specced laptop? [13:49] why doesn't sed -i 's;GtkScrollbar::slider-width = 6;GtkScrollbar::slider-width = 10;' gtkrc [13:49] work? [13:50] never used s; before, only s/ [13:51] i tried that too [13:51] sed -i 's/GtkScrollbar::slider-width = 6/GtkScrollbar::slider-width = 10/g' ./gtkrc [13:51] must be the spaces [13:52] you can shorten but i've forgotten anything i ever knew [13:55] popey, it's not s; specifically. You can use any character you like after the s and it becomes the delimiter. So sXpopeyXsilX works. It's dead useful if you're replacing something with / in, such as a path. sX/home/aquarius/X/home/popey/Xg [13:55] i never knew that [13:55] thanks [13:56] I guessed not, hence telling you. It's one of those little things which is incredibly useful about once every six months ;) [13:57] heh, yeah [13:59] that works in various scripting languages too - dead handy [13:59] (once every six months, as you say) [13:59] sed -i 's/slider-width.*6/GtkScrollbar ::slider-width = 10/g' ./gtkrc [13:59] works [14:00] i think there's more elegant way though [15:07] who's near hastings? http://www.hastingsobserver.co.uk/news/local-news/legendary-bomber-set-to-make-a-noise-1-5185870 [15:08] I'm guessing that's XH558? [15:08] yes [15:08] \o/ [15:09] https://twitter.com/XH558 [15:10] Bruce Dickinson is setting up an aircraft maintenance company?! [15:10] http://loudwire.com/iron-maiden-bruce-dickinson-8-million-investments-aircraft-maintenance-company/?trackback=twitter_top [15:10]