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Kilosmorning all06:23
Vince-0Hi06:28
Kiloshi Vince-0 06:29
Vince-0Aaarg it's way too early for me06:30
Kiloswhat happened last night06:30
Vince-0Hi06:35
Vince-0oh I said already , lols06:36
Kiloshahaha06:36
Vince-0ag its just the rut of the working class06:36
Kiloseveryone missed the meeting last night06:36
Kilosthe chair fell over looks like06:37
Squirmmorning06:38
Kiloshi Squirm 06:39
Vince-0There was a meet? I didn't have a calender reminder06:40
Kilospostponed till next monday06:40
Vince-0Shall I make a post to the list?06:44
Kilosnuvolari, did already06:46
Kilosread your mail06:46
Kilosfirst wake up06:46
Kiloshi HawkiesZA wb06:48
Kilosthe fly left you overloaded?06:48
HawkiesZAHello!06:48
SquirmMaaz: coffee on06:48
* Maaz starts grinding coffee06:48
SquirmMaaz: beermug06:49
MaazSquirm: What?06:49
SquirmMaaz: beer mug06:49
MaazSquirm: Huh?06:49
SquirmMaaz: beer mug please06:49
MaazSquirm: Sorry...06:49
SquirmMaaz: large06:49
MaazIn a beer mug just for you Squirm06:49
Squirm:/06:49
KilosMaaz, coffee please06:49
MaazKilos: Yessir06:49
HawkiesZAsudo make me a beer?06:49
KilosMaaz, larger06:49
Maazinna bucket for you Kilos06:49
Kiloshehe06:49
HawkiesZAlarge = beer? Did someone mess up the regex? :P06:50
Kiloslarge coffee inna beer mug06:51
MaazCoffee's ready for Squirm and Kilos!06:52
KilosMaaz, ty06:53
MaazYou are welcome Kilos06:53
barrydkGood morning06:54
Kiloshi barrydk \06:54
Vince-0Kilos, haven't got that Email yet - my list subs on digest - can't find where to change it06:55
Kilosoh my06:55
Kilosill answer it and maybe thewn youll see something06:56
HawkiesZAAnd yes Kilos, fly left us horribly overloaded. Very rude :P06:57
* HawkiesZA ducks06:57
Kiloshehe06:57
HawkiesZABut really I just got horribly sidetracked06:59
Kilosexcuses excuses06:59
Kilosohi superfly 06:59
Kilosi go do the sheep thing now07:00
HawkiesZAhe's getting his coffee on07:00
SquirmMaaz: coffee on07:02
* Maaz starts grinding coffee07:02
SquirmMaaz: large07:02
MaazIn a beer mug just for you Squirm07:02
trendermaaz: coke07:02
Maaztrender: Sorry...07:02
trendergrrr07:02
trendermaaz: water07:02
Maaztrender: Excuse me?07:02
trenderoi!07:02
HawkiesZAMaaz: tea07:02
MaazHawkiesZA: tea is a brew made from a tea bush from ceylon07:02
HawkiesZAlol07:03
trendertea or coffee huh07:03
trendermaaz: tea or coffee 07:04
Maaztrender: What?07:04
trendermaaz: coffee07:04
Maaztrender: coffee is liquid code07:04
mazalMorning everyone07:04
trenderyo mazal whatuo07:04
trenderwhatup07:04
trendermaaz: hotdog07:05
Maaztrender: Huh?07:05
trendermaaz: food07:05
Maaztrender: Excuse me?07:05
MaazCoffee's ready for Squirm!07:06
mazalGood thanx and you trender 07:07
mazalOom Kilos , jy hier ?07:07
SquirmMaaz: thanks07:07
MaazSquirm: Okay :-)07:07
Kiloshi mazal 07:07
SquirmMaaz: coffee on07:07
* Maaz starts grinding coffee07:07
SquirmMaaz: large07:07
MaazIn a beer mug just for you Squirm07:07
mazalHallo oom , ek nodig hulp07:07
Kiloswat seun07:07
mazalIf I send you an email addy of a new can , can you help him on how to get in here please ?07:08
mazalguy even07:08
mazalEk hol so rond ek kom nie daarby uit nie07:08
Kilosyes mazal will do07:08
Kilosis he on ubuntu?07:08
mazalDankie oom07:08
mazalHe was on mint , but I suggested him to change to ubuntu07:09
mazalAs ubuntu have stronger community for new okes07:09
Kilosmint peeps are welcome here too07:09
KilosSquirm, uses mint07:09
Squirmpfft07:10
Squirmubuntu = mint07:10
Squirmmint != ubuntu07:10
mazalBut you guys will help him ne ?07:10
Squirmmint > Ubuntu07:10
Kilosya of course07:10
Kilostell him to install xchat07:11
SquirmI won't07:11
Squirmhe left mint07:11
Squirmfor shame!07:11
Kiloshehe07:11
Squirm:P07:11
MaazCoffee's ready for Squirm!07:11
SquirmI may have OD'd on coffee07:11
Kilosyou help anyone Squirm 07:11
Squirmty Maaz 07:11
Kilosmazal, can he use the terminal?07:12
mazalI asked him to send me his email addy. Then I will give it to you then you can help him get into the community please oom07:18
Kilosok mazal 07:18
mazalBaie dankie. Is goeie ou racing buddy van my. Het jare lank probeer om hom weg te kry van windows af :-)07:19
Kilosi gotta put a file there first that isnt .exe07:20
mazalWas skoon verbaas toe ek hoor hy try ubuntu.07:20
Kilosoops07:20
mazalNow I want him to get good first impression and you are our man !!07:20
Kilosdis goed so , hoe meer hoe beter07:20
Kilosai!07:20
trenderis this a tea party ?07:21
superflyohi07:22
mazalMorning superfly 07:22
Kilosohi superfly 07:23
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Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 07:46
KilosMaaz, announce Monthly meeting on the 24th07:47
MaazHear ye, hear ye! Monthly meeting on the 24th07:47
mazalIs it a Monday ?07:49
mazalOh ya I see it is07:50
superflyhi mazal, Kilos, etc07:51
Kilostuesday07:52
mazalhuh07:52
* mazal kyk weer07:52
mazalNo is a monday07:52
* mazal think him and Kilos are talking of seperate things lol07:53
Kilosno man monday was a holiday07:53
Kilosoh the meeting ya07:53
mazallol07:53
Kiloslol07:54
Kilosmazal, remmina werk goed as jy die IP en password ken07:58
Kilosvolle beheer07:59
mazalSharp , soos vnc08:00
Kilosek ken dit nie maar ek sien 7 hier op een werkspasie asof ek op die ander pc is08:01
Kilosdit sit net daai pc op die plek waar jy moet passwoord insit08:02
magespawngood morning08:04
mazalvnc is die Windoze remote app08:05
magespawnor one of them08:05
mazalMorning magespawn 08:05
magespawnhey mazal08:06
Kiloshi magespawn 08:06
magespawnhey Kilos08:06
Kiloswe duffed last nights meet magespawn now on the 24th08:07
Kiloshiya maiatoday 08:08
Kiloswb08:08
Kilosyou missed the new peeps magespawn 08:08
Kilosmorning JoTraGo1 Spaceghost 08:09
magespawnno worries Kilos i expect i will be there08:09
superflyJammer Kilos, without Internet at home I couldn't get to the meeting.08:09
magespawni saw some of them from the lurkers corner over the weekend08:09
Kilosyeah superfly we unnerstand08:09
magespawnsuperfly: hi, is the line or the modem?08:10
superflymagespawn: dunno08:10
magespawna monday sense of humour for a tuesday http://mashable.com/2013/06/17/star-wars-elevator-prank/08:15
magespawnthat sucks superfly08:16
maiatodayhi Kilos08:28
SquirmMaaz: seen smilyborg09:11
MaazSquirm: smilyborg was last seen 18 days, 14 hours, 58 minutes and 41 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2013-05-30 11:13:15 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2013-05-30 14:59:43 PDT09:11
Squirmhmm09:12
nuvolarisjoe, oom kilos is kwaai so vroeg in die oggend09:19
Kiloswat nou09:21
Kilosdag nuvolari 09:22
Kiloshmm.. môre inetpro plustwo Mzolisto 09:37
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ThatGraemeGuyoh, hi11:42
ThatGraemeGuysorry Kilos, bit busy today :-)11:42
Kilosnp11:43
superflyhi ThatGraemeGuy :-)11:57
ThatGraemeGuyhey jetsetter11:57
ThatGraemeGuyor roadtripper i guess :)11:57
ThatGraemeGuywb11:57
Kilossuperfly, you foned insurance peeps yet?11:58
Kiloswe postponed the meeting so you could get fixed up first12:00
Kiloshehe12:00
superflyKilos: I've mailed them. My replacement router only gets here on the 1st of July though.12:03
Kilosaw12:03
ThatGraemeGuyyour router died?12:05
superflyand my two servers12:30
superflyI suspect it was lightning12:31
ThatGraemeGuyoh noes :-/12:31
ThatGraemeGuyyou had lightning protection thingys installed?12:31
superflyno12:32
superflydidn't think i'd really need that in Cape Town :-P12:32
ThatGraemeGuyyeah12:32
ThatGraemeGuyjust curious on the insurance side, i don't have any electrical protection in place either12:33
ThatGraemeGuypretty sure my broker would've mentioned12:33
ThatGraemeGuybut now that i think of it, i should ask her just to be safe12:33
Kiloshi HecticZA 13:31
Kiloswelcome to ubuntu-za13:31
Kiloshmm...13:55
KilosHecticZA, i see you got it working13:55
Kilosare you using mint or ubuntu13:56
magespawnhey Kilos, still this afternoon?14:02
Kilosyeah magespawn 14:07
KilosHecticZA, is mazals friend14:07
magespawnthat is cool14:07
Kilosya so we got one more14:07
magespawnneed to get some special ubuntu-za glue, to make them stick14:08
Kilosya14:08
Kiloswell last 2 stayed seems like14:08
Kilosvery quiet though14:09
KilosSilverCode, you winning?14:09
Kilosinetpro, ping14:09
Kilosoh my , peeps are cery busy14:14
Kilosvery as well14:14
inetproKilos: hi14:15
Kilosals goed inetpro ?14:15
Kilosvreemdeling14:15
inetproKilos: sorry for being so scarce14:15
Kilosi forgive you but magespawn doesnt14:16
Kiloshehe14:16
inetprohmm...14:16
inetproI shall have to sort him out later14:16
Kiloshaha14:16
Kilosyou missed last nights meeting so we postponed it till next monday14:17
Kilosyou will be here im sure14:17
inetproI was there last night14:17
inetprowas just half late as usual14:18
HecticZAApologies guys. Got busy. Yes Maz referred me and thx for the mail Kilo. Just lucky Kilo :) I have Pepperment 3 loaded on this pc and it already had XChat installed for Pepperment forums. I never even knew about the software. :)14:18
inetpro19:30 is tough for a family man14:18
HecticZAI will probably dump this distro soon and install ubunto on this pc and then I will keep you guys busy :)14:19
Kiloscool HecticZA we have a mint expert around if you need help14:19
inetproHecticZA: s/ubunto/ubuntu/14:20
Kiloswell inetpro when i wanted to change you guys moaned14:20
Kiloshes brand new inetpro 14:20
HecticZAOh really that is cool. I'm on Linux for about 2 weeks and are slowly picking things up. I have PM 4 on my Netbook and that will stay there.14:21
inetprothe syntax 's/ubunto/ubuntu/' means search for ubunto and replace with ubuntu14:21
HecticZAAh sorry inetpro. It is a combination of old age and terrible spelling on the keyboard.14:21
inetpro:-)14:21
Kilosold age14:22
Kiloseveryone uses that excuse14:22
Kiloseven me14:22
inetproai!14:22
inetproanyway14:22
Kilosoh and goosie14:22
* inetpro wbbl14:22
Kiloshehe14:22
Kilosok14:22
HecticZALol. Okay Old age and Alzheimer"s  ;D14:24
Kilosage HecticZA ?14:24
Kilosyou a bally too14:24
HecticZALol not thaaaaaaat old, but man I seriously think Alzeimers is in my future. I am 48 currently, going on 49 sometime during the year.14:27
Kilosah you young man14:28
Kilosim 63 in 7 days or so14:28
HecticZAOh well then. Hello uncle Kilos  :)14:29
Kiloshahaha14:29
Kilosmaar jy is welkom hier met enige linux distro14:29
Kilosnet die vensters mense trek swaar hier14:30
HecticZABaie dankie. Ek waardeer dit. Is maar 'n moeilike learning curve op die stadium. 14:30
Kilosya ek het ook swaar getrek in die begin14:31
Kilosmaar ouens hier help graag as hulle tyd het14:31
HecticZADie feit dat daar nie exe, .bat, .com  ens is nie verwar my. Ek het al Linux files gedownload en dan ge extract en dan.....  minute van niks en baie domigheid. ;D14:32
Kiloshehe14:33
HecticZAHet ook nie die reposories verstaan nie en glad nie die ppa nie.14:33
KilosSquirm, say hi to HecticZA 14:33
Kilospeppermint14:33
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Squirmhi HecticZA 14:33
tonberryE352oor die algemeen het linux executables nie n extention nie14:33
Squirmbbl, need to go14:33
Squirmsquash match tonight14:33
HecticZAHey Squirm, please to meet you :)14:34
Squirmwill bbl - maybe around 1114:34
Kiloswhew14:34
Kilosthats more than squash14:34
HecticZALoL14:35
Kilosyawns again tomorrow14:35
Kilosons het baie jong outjies hier14:35
Kilosparty net uit die skool uit14:35
Kilosmaar hulle sukkel nie soos ou mense nie14:36
HecticZAWow. Okay. 14:36
HecticZANee kinders leer vinnig.14:36
Kilosya man dis nie reg nie14:36
Kilosnot fair as they say14:37
HecticZALol. Ek speel games online via PS3 en dis altyd die laaities wat mens verneder. :)14:37
Kiloshahaha14:37
HecticZAGoogle ek net vir ubuntu om te download of is hier 'n link erens wat ek click?14:39
Kiloshmm14:40
KilosMaaz, google ubuntu .iso download14:40
MaazKilos: "Download Ubuntu Desktop | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop :: "Download Ubuntu | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/download :: "Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS (Precise Pangolin) - Ubuntu Releases" http://releases.ubuntu.com/precise/ :: "Alternative downloads | Ubuntu" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads :: "Download Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring14:40
MaazRingtail) - Ubuntu Releases" http://releases.ubuntu.com/raring/ :: "Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS (Lucid …14:40
HecticZAk thx14:40
Kilosek gebruik 12.04.214:41
Kilosit a lts version14:41
Kilos5 years support14:41
Kilosothers are 9 months14:41
HecticZAWat is lts?14:41
Kiloslong term support14:41
HecticZAlong term support?14:41
HecticZAlol14:41
HecticZAK ek verstaan14:41
Kilosits also a bit easier than 13.04 for new guys14:42
HecticZAOkay will have a quick look.14:42
HecticZAStarted the download. Thank you for the help. Does Xchat work from Windows as well?14:47
confluencyHecticZA: I don't know if XChat has a windows version, but it's just an IRC client. There are lots of IRC clients for Windows.14:52
HecticZAK thx14:52
Kilosyour welcome14:53
Kiloswe are always here14:53
confluencyI would install the latest version of Ubuntu. if you don't like Unity you can easily replace it with a different window manager. It's just a thin layer on top of the whole operating system.14:54
confluencyLTS is good for servers, which you don't want to upgrade too frequently.14:55
Kilosconfluency, 13.04 has too many settings that you need to sort to get things understandable imo14:55
Kilosfor a new guy that is14:55
confluencyLike what?14:56
Kiloslike the workspace switcher aint there14:56
confluencyIs that a Unity thing?14:56
Kilosand all the eye candy14:56
Kilosya14:56
confluencyI wouldn't recommend Unity to new people, period. ;)14:56
Kilosno man tara tried it and loved it14:57
confluencyTo each his own. ;)14:57
Kilosand all she knew was windows14:57
Kiloshehe14:57
tonberryE352I wouldn't reccomend Unity.14:57
Kilosmaybe ive just got used to it by now14:57
confluencyHecticZA: you may be perfectly happy running an older version, but if you find yourself jumping through hoops to install backported new stuff from PPAs or from source consider just upgrading.14:58
confluencyThat's my main problem with running an old version. It's all fun and games until you want a specific new version of some app because you need a feature or a bugfix.14:59
confluencyAnd then you discover that it's been built/backported for the newest three versions or so, and not yours.15:00
confluency(Speaking of which, I should probably upgrade to Raring. Maybe today. ;) )15:00
Kiloshehe15:01
Kilos12.04 is running very well here on unity and kde15:02
Kilosvery stable15:02
HecticZAHmm okay. Now I'm not sure. I am busy downloading the LTS version, but I will download the latest version as well. Currently this pc has Xp and Peppermint 3 on. Whatever goes on next will be the only OS on here. This is basically a media  pc that provides access to th erest of the house and my PS3. At the moment I use it to play around with Linux. My other Win 7 needs to be be reinstalled, so I might dual boot with some Linux flavour there as well.15:10
magespawnthere is a windows version of xchat15:11
HecticZAI share 1 LCD screen with 2 pc's via a MVK switch. Had some issues with Peppermint 3 ito low screen resolutions, due to the MVK switch. I assume I will have the same issues with ubuntu as well?15:12
HecticZAThx megaspawn. I'm busy downloading. It is just for in case something goes wrong when I reload this pc with a new ubuntu version.15:13
magespawnalso try using the tab button to complete nicks/names that way the spelling is always right15:14
Kilostype first 3 or 4 letters and hit tab15:15
magespawni have never used a keyboard switch with ubuntu, so no idea on that one15:15
magespawnKVM switch?15:15
Kiloshi nlsthzn 15:23
nlsthznGood evening uncle Kilos15:26
HecticZA@ magespawn - KVM switch = Keyboard Video Mouse. I have a mouse, keyboard and screen plugged into the switch and I can connect 4 pc's to it.15:37
HecticZAI'm about to log off here. Does it save my nick or do I have to do something? Can I logon from my Netbook with the same details?15:39
Kilosyou actually gotta register your nick15:39
Kilosif you dont want it stolen15:39
HecticZACan you tell me what I must do?15:40
Kilostype in here  /msg nickserv register 15:40
Kiloswhew i forgot15:40
Kilosit should give info if you do that 15:40
Kilos  /msg nickserv register HecticZA 15:41
Kilosyou should get options15:41
Kiloshave to enter email addy and password somewherer15:41
HecticZAOkay it gives me error message regarding the psswd and addy. Will try to figure it out. tHx15:42
Kilosnp15:43
HecticZAThx Kilos. Sorted15:44
Kilosoh they send you a special password via mail15:44
Kiloscool15:44
nlsthznHecticZA:now you can set your fave IRC client to log you in automatically using your nick and password ;)15:46
* nlsthzn will flounder around here a little bit later again ...15:47
HecticZAOkay it it is verified. Chat tomorrow or maybe a bit later. Cheers :)15:48
Kilosok15:49
Kilosai!15:49
magespawnnice to have new people 15:52
Kilosyeah15:57
Kiloshmm...16:05
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magespawnlater all home time for me16:24
Kilosk magespawn 16:25
Kiloslater16:25
Kiloshi smile4ever 17:30
inetprogood evening17:47
inetproand hello Kilos17:47
Kiloslo inetpro 17:47
inetprohoe gaan dinge vanaand hier17:48
Kilosstil man17:48
* inetpro kry al weer koue vingers hierdie tyd van die jaar17:48
inetpromoet eendag 'n verhitte muisblad kry17:49
inetproof wat noem jy die ding in Afr?17:49
inetproMaaz: coffee on17:50
* Maaz flips the salt-timer17:50
Kiloslol17:50
KilosMaaz, coffee please17:50
MaazKilos: Done17:50
inetproKilos: of dalk moet ek maar net die vingers bietjie laat werk17:51
inetprosoos lemoene skil17:51
Kiloshaha17:51
inetproons lemoene is lekker hierdie jaar17:51
inetpromoet eintlik nog bome plant as hulle so lekker is17:53
nlsthznalo Kilos, inetpro... cold enough for ya? :p17:53
Kilosya nlsthzn very cold17:53
inetprohi nlsthzn17:54
MaazCoffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!17:54
inetproMaaz: dankie17:54
MaazGroot plesier inetpro my vriend17:54
nlsthznMaaz:tea please17:54
MaazAs soon as the kettle boils nlsthzn I will pour boiling water into your cup if you have the tea bag in already17:54
Kilosvrugte bome is altyd goeie bome om te plant17:54
nlsthznreading mailing lists can be a lot of fun... so many opinions and different attitudes and stuff...18:02
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nlsthznit would seem that with Mir all the other *buntus will be coming to an end...18:09
Kiloshuh18:10
nlsthznbye bye xubuntu, kubuntu etc...18:11
Kilosoh my18:11
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:13
nlsthznthe amount of spite and anger in the FLOSS community can be crazy sometimes... many of the mailing lists are better than Soap Opera;s :p18:13
nlsthzngood night uncle Kilos:18:13
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Vince-0nlsthzn: indeed! I've been following the drama for some time18:23
nlsthznVince-0: I am reading the latest debate on the ubuntu-dev mailing list... and the sad thing is even if everyone dropped their ego's there still isn't a workable solution18:25
Vince-0http://fossforce.com/2013/06/what-makes-a-community-distro/18:25
Vince-0well, people who are actively involved are passionate so there will be some tempers flaring18:25
nlsthznwell, one solution would be to drop mir and use wayland... the easiest one IMO18:26
Vince-0ha! but Canonical will have none of that18:27
nlsthznso it seems18:31
nlsthznand I don't understand the technical side to know how much merit each sides argument has :/18:31
smile4everNight! :)18:32
nlsthznhttp://mechoslav.wordpress.com/2013/06/18/numix-utouch-is-now-desktop-ready-icon-theme/19:04
nlsthznpretty19:04
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Squirmlo Trixar_za 21:28
SquirmMaaz: tell Kilos I was close21:28
MaazSquirm: Okay, I'll tell Kilos on freenode21:28
Trixar_zalo Squirm21:29
Trixar_za:P21:29
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