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| noodles775 | mthaddon: Not sure if you review charmhelpers, but as per our conversation yesterday, here's an update for the salt support which doesn't install a daemon: https://code.launchpad.net/~michael.nelson/charm-helpers/depend-on-salt-common-only/+merge/170298 | 11:42 |
| mthaddon | noodles775: I saw the comment in the RT, thanks. I'll leave the review to wedgwood and others for charm-helpers though | 11:42 |
| noodles775 | Cool. | 11:43 |
| MarkDude | Is all off Juju's main code under Affero v1? | 12:38 |
| marcoceppi | MarkDude: yes, juju is licensed agpl | 12:46 |
| MarkDude | v1? not v3? marcoceppi ? | 12:49 |
| marcoceppi | Oh, I'm not sure the version exactly | 12:50 |
| MarkDude | Was that the license from the start | 12:50 |
| marcoceppi | juju-core is AGPLv3 | 12:50 |
| marcoceppi | so is juju0.7 | 12:50 |
| * MarkDude can email on it. I have been wanting to put juju in Fedora- and have seen v1 be an issue | 12:51 | |
| MarkDude | Yay, | 12:51 |
| MarkDude | much easier, I can proceed now, I *might* need a clarification letter at some point so I could put it in the regular repos | 12:51 |
| MarkDude | A few of the other parts are not compatible with all the legal restrictions on my side. | 12:52 |
| MarkDude | But as far as the main part- I feel juju- used in concert with Kickstart (scripts for the Anaconda installer) has awesome possibilities | 12:53 |
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| maxired | Hi everybody ! | 13:00 |
| marcoceppi | Hi maxired | 13:00 |
| maxired | I'm trying to use "juju-gui", from cs:~juju-gui/precise/juju-gui-68 ,a dn i'm stuck on ""Connecting to the Juju environment" | 13:01 |
| maxired | I'm not sur how to check that the juju API is running, any idea ? | 13:01 |
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| jcastro | MarkDude: you don't want that | 13:07 |
| jcastro | you want to use cloud init | 13:07 |
| jcastro | it's in fedora | 13:07 |
| MarkDude | Agreed, the cli client looks easy to integrate | 13:08 |
| MarkDude | the rest of the licenses appear to work, and I have a list of Juju items ALREADY available for Fedora | 13:09 |
| jcastro | how's the golang stack in fedora? | 13:09 |
| MarkDude | +1 | 13:09 |
| * MarkDude expects no issues there | 13:09 | |
| MarkDude | Well major ones, possible small fixes needed | 13:09 |
| * MarkDude started notes- and mostly saw a Affero v1 as issue- v3 means a bit of work on my side- but it should be fine | 13:10 | |
| marcoceppi | maxired: what version of juju are you using? | 13:10 |
| * MarkDude was reviewing the code. Looks like there is a really nice base to build off of | 13:11 | |
| * MarkDude has not so secret plan of linking (in idea only) juju charms and Kickstart | 13:11 | |
| maxired | marcoceppi : I was precisly looking at this. | 13:11 |
| maxired | i'm on 0.7 from ppa:juju/pkgs on the master node | 13:12 |
| marcoceppi | MarkDude: charms are licensed sperately from juju, you'd need to check each charms license if that was the case ;) | 13:12 |
| maxired | but look's like juju 0.7 from default repository has been installed by MAAS | 13:13 |
| maxired | I'll try to change this | 13:13 |
| marcoceppi | Admittdly it's been a while since i've deployed the gui with 0.7 | 13:13 |
| ehg | hey - is there an OS X build of go-juju anywhere? | 13:14 |
| marcoceppi | ehg: not for go-juju, not yet at least | 13:14 |
| ehg | marcoceppi: ah, would it compile? | 13:14 |
| MarkDude | The charms themsleves are not as intereresting as what Juju could do for helping make a dev environment, or a few other things more technical | 13:14 |
| MarkDude | Bonus being we get to keep the awesome part of getting folks to dev- on the easy route | 13:15 |
| marcoceppi | ehg: I don't see why not. I don't think there's anything platform dependant, but I'm not a juju-core developer nor do i own a mac to verify | 13:15 |
| ehg | cool, i'll get our CEO to try :) | 13:15 |
| marcoceppi | ehg: Let us know how it works out! | 13:15 |
| MarkDude | Juju is full of win. Charms made elsewhere may not work for various reasons - technical , license etc | 13:15 |
| MarkDude | Roll out on installs of servers is a possiblity at this point | 13:16 |
| * MarkDude is hoping to get a kickstart to create Juju- and go from there | 13:17 | |
| MarkDude | Ty jcastro , marcoceppi , everyone | 13:17 |
| MarkDude | Back to study, do I send my "formal letter of intent" (yay Juju rocks) to jcastro or someone else ?]\ | 13:18 |
| jcastro | a letter for what? | 13:18 |
| jcastro | I don't know where you hang out man, but we're ubuntu, you don't need a letter, just go do awesome stuff. :p | 13:18 |
| maxired | MarkDude : I was wrong, i'm also running juju from ppa:juju/pkgs on the execution machine | 13:19 |
| maxired | marcoceppi : I was wrong, i'm also running juju from ppa:juju/pkgs on the execution machine | 13:19 |
| AskUbuntu | Ubuntu 12.04 MaaS and JUJU's proxy issues | http://askubuntu.com/q/310153 | 13:20 |
| marcoceppi | maxired: Well, that all _should_ work. There was a rudimentary api added to 0.7 for the gui | 13:20 |
| * marcoceppi checks | 13:20 | |
| MarkDude | I know jcastro but despite the awesomeness of Fedora, every so often I need to do formal shit | 13:21 |
| jcastro | ok let me know if you need anything | 13:22 |
| MarkDude | So I can forward to legal, and such- CYA on my side | 13:22 |
| * MarkDude hates having to use his title, but has to in the formal letter | 13:22 | |
| * MarkDude really really wants to have Distros focus on our common themes- and juju has great possiblities | 13:23 | |
| MarkDude | Ubuntu helps all of FOSS imho. and providing some concrete examples can help stop some sniping from at least a few troll types | 13:24 |
| MarkDude | Oh I should have an agreeable packager to help with this, so I can see about getting some momentum. Keep kickin ass Juju folks :D | 13:25 |
| jcastro | hey we do have some RPM packaging somewhere, but it's old and for pyju | 13:25 |
| jcastro | so not useful probably, just thought I'd mention it | 13:25 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: I'd rather pyjuju not end up in some rpm distro somewhere :P | 13:26 |
| jcastro | hah yeah, we can't even get rid of it in ubuntu | 13:26 |
| jcastro | it's gone from the saucy though! | 13:26 |
| maxired | I got a process with " /usr/bin/python -m juju.agents.api --nodaemon --port 8080 --logfile /var/log/juju/api-agent.log --session-file /var/run/juju/api-agent.zksession --secure --keys /etc/ssl/juju-gui" , but not listening on 8080 | 13:27 |
| gary_poster | maxired, hi. I'm one of the GUI people. We test against pyJuju 0.7 at least a couple times a day, but not against MAAS. We've had similar reports to this, but we have resolved everything we know about previously. | 13:27 |
| gary_poster | ok that sounds promising/interesting. this is on the GUI charm, I assume? | 13:27 |
| MarkDude | Where are they located? | 13:28 |
| * MarkDude is aware the pyju is the OLD method | 13:28 | |
| MarkDude | Well we would look at pyju for reference, not to include :D | 13:29 |
| gary_poster | maxired, first question I'd have, if you've verified that nothing is listening on the gui charm on part 8080, is what you see in that logfile (/var/log/juju/api-agent.lo) | 13:29 |
| gary_poster | /var/log/juju/api-agent.log | 13:29 |
| gary_poster | ... *port | 13:30 |
| maxired | gary_poster : thanks for helping. yep, nothing actually listening on that port. | 13:31 |
| maxired | i'm am currently trying again, because there has bene previously an nginx on it | 13:31 |
| maarten__ | When I do juju bootstrap, the bootstrap server does not have my openstack keypair and I can not log into it. What do I have to put to include the canonistack keypair? | 13:31 |
| gary_poster | ok maxired. there's a (closed) bug for this, which has had some conversation. I don't think it has anything interesting but will go find it. | 13:32 |
| gary_poster | maxired, https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju-gui/+bug/1180095 <shrug> | 13:33 |
| _mup_ | Bug #1180095: GUI charm may have difficulties working with Juju on MAAS <juju-gui:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1180095> | 13:33 |
| maxired | gary_poster : thanks | 13:35 |
| marcoceppi | maarten__: You can add SSH keys to your environments.yaml file: http://askubuntu.com/q/205170/41 | 13:39 |
| maarten__ | thanks | 13:40 |
| marcoceppi | WIth that format, you'd just put one public key per line | 13:40 |
| marcoceppi | (if you had multiples) | 13:40 |
| maxired | gary_poster : after a new deployment, the agent is listening, but i still stuck on "Connecting to the Juju environment" | 13:40 |
| maxired | do you know how can i get logs from haproxy ? | 13:41 |
| gary_poster | maxired, I don't. looking. | 13:42 |
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| gary_poster | maxired, benji has graciously offered to help | 13:45 |
| gary_poster | he'll be around presently | 13:46 |
| benji | hi, maxired; I'm reading the backlog to get cought up | 13:46 |
| maxired | hi benji ;) thanks for helping | 13:46 |
| maxired | benji : looks like it's working right now | 13:48 |
| maxired | the first connection to the websocket as been really long | 13:49 |
| maxired | but i could login the the web ui ;) | 13:49 |
| benji | my work here is done ;) | 13:49 |
| maxired | benji , gary_poster and marcoceppi, thanks for helping | 13:51 |
| marcoceppi | maxired: glad you got it working! | 13:51 |
| gary_poster | maxired, benji, lol, excellent | 13:51 |
| maxired | i'll check in the bug tracker, but looks like my probleme was a destroyed instance of 'wordpress' wich didn't remove the nginx | 13:51 |
| gary_poster | maxired, on the same box to which you deployed the GUI later, I'm guessing? | 13:52 |
| maxired | yep | 13:52 |
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| gary_poster | ok, yeah. FWIW, effectively fixed in Juju Core AIUI, maxired. | 13:54 |
| maxired | Good news i don't have to reproduce to be sure about that in order to fill a bug ;) | 13:56 |
| gary_poster | :-) | 13:58 |
| maxired | any link to the commit/bug ? | 13:59 |
| gary_poster | looking | 13:59 |
| gary_poster | maxired, https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/872264 | 14:00 |
| _mup_ | Bug #872264: stop hook does not fire when units removed from service <goju-resolved> <juju:Confirmed> <juju-core:Fix Released by fwereade> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/872264> | 14:00 |
| gary_poster | (I believe you destroyed the service, but I also am 90% sure that the issue is the same) | 14:02 |
| fwereade | maxired, gary_poster: we do not currently implement an uninstall hook, which is what I'd expect would actually remove such things | 14:02 |
| fwereade | maxired, gary_poster: we are currently working on containerization, which would let you *really* remove things, rather than just trusting to the effect of the putative uninstall hook | 14:03 |
| maxired | gary_poster : thanks, i was looking for something more specific | 14:03 |
| gary_poster | fwereade, when you destroy a service, don't you do a lot more drastic clean up than pyJuju did up? Or am I just thinking of containerization discussions? | 14:03 |
| gary_poster | maxired, ok, that's all I've got. :-) | 14:03 |
| fwereade | gary_poster, we can do a lot more stuff in the DB; and we can actually guarantee that stop hooks will be run; but we don't go any further than that | 14:04 |
| maxired | fwereade : I guess you are write. stoping could be not enough if things for example start at reboot ;) | 14:04 |
| fwereade | maxired, I would hope that a well-implemented stop hook would prevent the service from autostarting ;) | 14:04 |
| gary_poster | fwereade, gotcha, thanks. | 14:05 |
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| jcastro | jamespage: m_3: have either of you checked out that merge proposal from patrick hetu yet? | 14:17 |
| jamespage | jcastro, remind me again - which one is that? | 14:18 |
| jcastro | https://code.launchpad.net/~patrick-hetu/charms/precise/gunicorn/python-rewrite/+merge/167088 | 14:18 |
| jamespage | stub, you are terrifying me with all of the postgresql MP's you have in flight | 14:18 |
| jcastro | rick_h: hey so sinzui isn't around so you're the closest, tldr, some merge proposals aren't getting in the charm review queue | 14:18 |
| rick_h | jcastro: yea, there's a bug for that. Sec let me find it. | 14:19 |
| rick_h | https://bugs.launchpad.net/charmworld/+bug/1191823 jcastro | 14:19 |
| _mup_ | Bug #1191823: Merge proposals are missing from the review queue <charmers> <charmworld:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1191823> | 14:19 |
| rick_h | "But ~charmers isn't requested to review this proposal, only ~mark-mims." | 14:19 |
| jcastro | OOOHHHHH | 14:20 |
| rick_h | jcastro: so not a lot we can do atm about it. | 14:20 |
| jcastro | so this is a workflow bug | 14:20 |
| rick_h | jcastro: yea, at least for now until we can get time to check out a better way to generate the list | 14:20 |
| jcastro | ok so you know how we can "reset" a merge proposal to a non assigned to mims state? | 14:20 |
| rick_h | jcastro: moved to #juju-gui since aaron is there and he looked into it. | 14:21 |
| jamespage | jcastro, just fixed that | 14:21 |
| jcastro | right so basically after the first reviewer reviews it, and they ping pong, we need a way to stick it back into the pool instead of assignit to the first guy | 14:22 |
| jcastro | jamespage: oh awesome, so we just need to tell charmers when you're done you're first pass to do what you just did | 14:22 |
| jcastro | jamespage: what did you do> :) | 14:23 |
| jamespage | jcastro, requested 'charmers' review the MP | 14:23 |
| jamespage | 'Request another review' | 14:23 |
| jcastro | ack, found the docs, thanks, I'll send out a reminder and probably put this in newdocs | 14:25 |
| stub | jamespage: Big one coming up now I understand -broken/-departed hooks and can rewrite the horrible replication stuff | 14:25 |
| jamespage | stub, do you want to consolidate into a single merge proposal? | 14:26 |
| stub | jamespage: The ones in the queue will get the charm in the store actually working again | 14:27 |
| stub | jamespage: You actually prefer big MPs to smaller bite sized ones? | 14:27 |
| jamespage | stub, no - I just wanted to understand if whats in the queue is all valid | 14:28 |
| jamespage | time order right? | 14:28 |
| stub | yeah - I use a bzr pipeline so they each depends on the previous | 14:29 |
| stub | https://code.launchpad.net/~stub/charms/precise/postgresql/charm-helpers/+merge/169487 is likely rubber stamp, a separate MP to avoid noise in actual work | 14:30 |
| stub | https://code.launchpad.net/~stub/charms/precise/postgresql-psql/devel/+merge/169851 is teensy | 14:30 |
| stub | https://code.launchpad.net/~stub/charms/precise/postgresql/bug-1190141-client-access-fail/+merge/169928 is also teensy and fixes the worst bug atm | 14:31 |
| stub | yeah, nothing to be scared of yet ;) | 14:32 |
| fwereade | rvba, ping | 14:32 |
| jamespage | stub, there are two others in the queue | 14:33 |
| jamespage | https://code.launchpad.net/~stub/charms/precise/postgresql/bug-1084263-fix-broken-hooks/+merge/169486 | 14:33 |
| jamespage | no - just that one actually | 14:34 |
| stub | https://code.launchpad.net/~stub/charms/precise/postgresql/bug-1084263-fix-broken-hooks/+merge/169486 may give you a wtf moment. I think I based my implementation on a misunderstanding. But the approach works. | 14:34 |
| stub | There is a test infrastructure one too | 14:34 |
| stub | https://code.launchpad.net/~stub/charms/precise/postgresql/tests/+merge/169866 | 14:34 |
| stub | But nothing scary in there | 14:34 |
| jamespage | stub, OK - I'm completely confused | 14:35 |
| stub | :) | 14:35 |
| jamespage | stub, which one should I be reviewing first? charm-helpers? | 14:35 |
| stub | I'm not helping? ;) | 14:35 |
| stub | Yes, charm-helpers | 14:35 |
| jamespage | Ok - lemme start there then | 14:35 |
| stub | That is just upstream code I've copied in from lp:charm-helpers | 14:36 |
| jamespage | stub, yeah - I see - you sure you want to include the entire project? and not just the python package? | 14:36 |
| stub | jamespage: I don't know if it matters. Whatever best practice is considered. | 14:38 |
| jamespage | stub, not sure we have one just yet | 14:38 |
| stub | Pulling the whole thing gets the license etc. | 14:39 |
| jamespage | I know for the openstack charms we have been taking the approach of pulling in the bits we want | 14:39 |
| jamespage | stub, see http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~gandelman-a/+junk/charm-helpers-sync/files | 14:40 |
| stub | I worry that will drift... people making their own little hacks. The PG charm already contains a hacked apon copy of charm-helper's ancestor. | 14:40 |
| stub | How does that helper help with charm-store charms? | 14:41 |
| stub | oh, I think I see | 14:41 |
| jamespage | all charm-helpers-sync does is provide a standardized way to described which bits you want from lp:charm-helpers | 14:42 |
| jamespage | and syncs them into your charm | 14:42 |
| jamespage | stub, I'll push adam_g to get that included in charm-helpers itself | 14:43 |
| jamespage | adam_g_, nudge ^^ | 14:43 |
| stub | Right. So I don't see any reason not to switch to that. I'll go with whatever mechanism is preferred. | 14:43 |
| jamespage | stub, I'd prefer to see that rather than a sync of the entire branch | 14:45 |
| jamespage | wedgwood, any opinions on the above? | 14:45 |
| stub | A point for the whole tree is it is easier to merge fixes back, perhaps. | 14:48 |
| stub | Nah, ignore that | 14:48 |
| * wedgwood reads backscroll | 14:50 | |
| wedgwood | jamespage: I've been doing my best to structure charm-helpers in a way that it can be included in pieces. +1 | 14:53 |
| wedgwood | I envision it being packaged that way too. The cli, for example, might be a separate deb | 14:54 |
| stub | jamespage: Pushed that update anyway. Just running the test again (soon that will be tests, plural) | 14:59 |
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| _mup_ | Bug #1192598 was filed: pyjuju provision-agent hangs and fails to provision instances <juju:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1192598> | 15:07 |
| jamespage | wedgwood, ack | 15:19 |
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| jamespage | stub, guess I should review lp:~stub/charm-helpers/bug-1191002-local-unit-relation-data first as that is where you are pulling charm-helpers from | 15:24 |
| stub | jamespage: turtles, all the way down | 15:25 |
| jamespage | stub, coolio | 15:25 |
| jamespage | stub, that branch also adds the data that the local unit has set on a specific relation right? | 15:29 |
| jamespage | (thats the bit I did not even know you could do until last week) | 15:29 |
| stub | jamespage: Correct | 15:32 |
| jamespage | stub, OK - that works for me - do you want to rebase using lp:charm-helpers now? | 15:32 |
| jamespage | I think that would be good hygiene | 15:32 |
| stub | It has landed? Sure. | 15:32 |
| stub | jamespage: And done | 15:34 |
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| jcastro | charm call in 5 minutes! | 15:55 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: do you have the URL? | 15:55 |
| jcastro | setting it up now | 15:56 |
| jcastro | hey can one of you prep the etherpad for this week while I fire this up? | 15:56 |
| jcastro | https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/9d5f2933f12c69245f97d157a4c372d4d61318bd?authuser=0&hl=en | 15:57 |
| jcastro | if you want to participate | 15:57 |
| jcastro | http://ubuntuonair.com if you want to just listen in | 15:57 |
| arosales | jcastro, I can work on the etherpad | 15:58 |
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| marcoceppi | http://pad.ubuntu.com/7mf2jvKXNa | 16:05 |
| jamespage | stub, how worried are you about backwards compat with py-juju? | 16:54 |
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| stub | jamespage: I will be worried, at least to the extent of migrating our existing systems | 17:04 |
| jamespage | stub, destroy-machines in the tests is a juju-core ish - py juju does terminate machines | 17:05 |
| stub | right, ta. Might as well change that. | 17:08 |
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| stub | When I have a standard require/provides relation between client_service and server_service, is it possible for a unit in server_service to retrieve relation data set by other server_service units? From the server side, relation-list only appears to list client_service units and relation-get with the other unit listed explicitly seems to be failing. | 18:14 |
| marcoceppi | stub: I believe that's what peer relations are for | 18:16 |
| stub | This is relation state... it doesn't fit the peer relation | 18:16 |
| marcoceppi | stub: Units of the same service don't talk to each other (normally) when it's service -> client relation | 18:17 |
| stub | One of server_service is a master, and creates a user and password for the clients and publishes it to the relation with the client | 18:17 |
| stub | The other server_service units ideally will republish the same information | 18:18 |
| stub | I'm confused as I think this worked before. It might be racy in some way though. | 18:19 |
| * stub ponders about using the peer relation as a communication channel | 18:20 | |
| wedgwood | stub: you want relation-ids | 18:30 |
| wedgwood | you'll need the right ID to go along with the unit | 18:30 |
| wedgwood | e.g. (service a) <- myrel:0 <- database -> myrel:1 -> (service b) | 18:32 |
| stub | hmm... maybe I'm using the wrong relation id. That would explain why it used to work. | 18:33 |
| MarkDude | Where were the RPM charms? I have someone reviewing now | 18:54 |
| * MarkDude knows they were done the old way with Pyju | 18:54 | |
| jcastro | https://github.com/jujutools/rpm-juju | 19:00 |
| MarkDude | Ty | 19:30 |
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