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tvossmgraesslin, ping05:32
mgraesslintvoss: pong05:33
tvossmgraesslin, good morning (under the assumption you are in Germany) :)05:33
mgraesslinyes :-) good morning05:33
* tvoss loves the brain melting temperatures early in the morning right now05:33
tvossmgraesslin, so I was looking through the kwin source code and wonder if you could help me in getting a few questions answered05:34
mgraesslinI can try05:34
tvossmgraesslin, great :) here we go: So for integrating with an EGL/GL platform, OpenGLBackend is the class to implement? Do I understand that correctly?05:35
mgraesslinyes05:35
mgraesslinbut that's just for the OpenGL compositor obviously05:35
mgraesslinthe XRender one is currently getting adjusted05:36
tvossmgraesslin, yup :) so one question (out of curiosity): is there a reason you do not use the q platform abstraction layer to "hide" those GL bits?05:37
mgraesslinwhen we started the OpenGL part, Qt's OpenGL was not up to where it is now05:37
mgraesslinmaybe that changed with Qt 5 - I haven't looked into it enough05:38
mgraesslinbut Qt 4 doesn't provide what we need05:38
tvossmgraesslin, ah okay, that makes perfect sense then05:39
tvossmgraesslin, so for interfacing with GL it's OpenGLBackend. I was wondering where you bridge over to the input subsystem. Or do you read directly off evdev?05:39
mgraesslinquite simple: that code is not there yet05:40
mgraesslinthe egl_wayland_backend does some nasty hacks05:40
mgraesslinbut in general the code still needs to be written05:40
tvossmgraesslin, ah okay :) I would think the same holds true for app mgmt/focus/window placement strategies?05:41
mgraesslinno that all exists, just only for the X11 backend05:42
tvossmgraesslin, ah, that is cool :) can you point me to the code?05:42
tvossmgraesslin, that is, for the existing x11 backend05:42
mgraesslinwell that's everything :-)05:42
mgraesslintvoss: best explained in http://community.kde.org/KWin/Hacking05:43
tvossmgraesslin, got it, thx05:43
mgraesslintvoss: at the moment I highly recommend to not try to integrate KWin with Mir - it's a bad point in time05:44
mgraesslinwe are about to switch to Qt 5 and KF 505:44
mgraesslinso the code will break badly05:44
mgraesslinand the code will change05:44
mgraesslinwe don't mind moving large code parts around05:44
tvossmgraesslin, hmm, that would be great as we have a working qpa implementation for Mir. Do you have some ballpark estimate for the qt5 switch?05:45
mgraesslinwhen master opens up again - in a few weeks05:46
mgraesslinwe plan to have a development preview release this year05:46
mgraesslinfor Kubuntu the earliest release on Qt 5 can be 14.10, maybe 15.0405:47
mgraesslin14.04 will come 4.11 just like 13.1005:47
tvossmgraesslin, okay, thanks, that helps me. I might start playing around with the kwin code as is, though, totally being aware that I'm standing on shaky ground :)05:48
tvossmgraesslin, would you be the right guy to talk to for XMir, too?05:49
mgraesslintvoss: I have no interest in anything with Mir, it's a downstream problem from my point of view05:49
mgraesslinand it's a downstream I'm not running, so I cannot help anything there05:49
tvossmgraesslin, okay, fair enough05:50
mgraesslintvoss: in fact I don't think you will find any upstream developer who is able to help there - no KDE workspace core developer is to my knowledge using Kubuntu05:50
tvossmgraesslin, okay, however, my questions were answered :) thanks for that05:52
mgraesslinyou're welcome05:52
soeegood morning06:12
smartboyhwDamn it, okular still is crapped.07:56
smartboyhwI REALLY HATE SYMBOLS...07:56
smartboyhwRe-uploaded...08:05
shadeslayersmartboyhw: make sure you supply pkgkde-symbolshelper with both the build logs08:05
smartboyhwshadeslayer, ?08:05
shadeslayerboth = both i386 and amd6408:06
shadeslayerwait08:06
shadeslayersmartboyhw: how are you fixing the symbols file?08:06
shadeslayerby hand?08:06
smartboyhwshadeslayer, hand yeah.08:06
shadeslayer...08:07
smartboyhwshadeslayer, that's why I'm stupid:P08:07
smartboyhwshadeslayer, btw how do you do it?08:07
shadeslayerpkgkde-symbolshelper 08:07
* smartboyhw didn't know that existed:P08:07
shadeslayersmartboyhw: please go through http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html08:07
smartboyhwshadeslayer, hmm interesting.08:08
smartboyhwAfter okular, it would be kwallet.08:10
smartboyhwThe damning .install file error;P08:10
smartboyhwOn this pace, we can get 4.10.80 out when 4.10.81 releases:P08:14
smartboyhw(Kidding)08:14
yofelnot really kidding. I think we've been doing that for the last 2 releases ^^08:15
smartboyhwyofel, yeah!:)08:17
* shadeslayer is trying to do everything as fast as possible08:20
smartboyhwCurrently existing problems are for korundum (code error), kwallet (I will fix it), rocs (cmake grantlee error), kajongg (weird build-dep error on python-twisted), kdegraphics-mobipocket (due to okular)08:21
smartboyhwkdegraphics-stringi-analyzers failed (code again)08:21
smartboyhws/kdegraphics/kdenetwork/08:21
kubotusmartboyhw meant: "kdenetwork-stringi-analyzers failed (code again)"08:21
yofelwell cmake rather08:21
yofelit's missing a check for boost08:21
yofel(and the package is missing the dep)08:22
smartboyhwkdewebdev (.install files problem)08:22
shadeslayerI think we can be done by this weekend08:22
shadeslayerhopefully08:22
smartboyhwklickety (again .install files problem)08:22
smartboyhwFortunately I can join in this mess at the right time:)08:23
Quintasanyofel: kajongg is still fcksd on i38608:25
QuintasanSeems like kiten is ok now08:25
yofelsomeone else look into kajongg, that's some python issue in the archive08:26
shadeslayer^^08:26
* shadeslayer won't be available on the weekend08:27
shadeslayererm08:27
shadeslayers/on the weekend/in the evening/08:27
kubotushadeslayer: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"08:27
smartboyhwhelp, I now have the exact error as the ORIGINAL okular i386 plasma-active-dev issue (what? the build in ninja is ok while here not)08:27
shadeslayerpastebin them build logs08:27
smartboyhwshadeslayer, erm it is just this...08:28
yofelyour chroot does have saucy-proposed enabled?08:28
smartboyhwyofel, erm no.08:28
yofelyou'll need that ;)08:28
smartboyhw1. that's my actual computer:p08:28
smartboyhwyofel, meh.08:28
yofelthat's why we have chroots...08:29
yofelif you don't want to use pbuilder a simple debootstrap chroot works too08:29
yofelor a VM, but that's overkill08:29
shadeslayer^^08:29
shadeslayerlxc08:29
shadeslayerftw08:29
yofeltrue ^^08:29
smartboyhwHeh08:30
shadeslayerhuh odd08:35
shadeslayerthere is a applets/kdeobservatory/src/08:35
shadeslayerhowever08:35
shadeslayerthere is no kdeobservatory widget that's built08:35
shadeslayeroh08:51
shadeslayerhmm08:51
shadeslayerQwt5-Qt4_FOUND08:51
smartboyhwshadeslayer, I'm supposed to include http://paste.kde.org/777638/ in symbols too?09:02
shadeslayerthat kind of looks odd but yes09:04
shadeslayerjust use pkgkde-symbolshelper09:04
smartboyhwHmm, it really takes a long time to set up pbuilder i386...09:09
smartboyhwMaybe I should upload this thing first into Ninjas and see how symbols fail in i386....09:12
smartboyhwUploaded ~ppa5.09:13
smartboyhwHopefully I don't need a ~ppa10.09:13
yofelthat's what I usually do ^^09:18
smartboyhwyofel, yeah. I hope not this time.....09:19
yofeland ppa10 is fine, with the build priority ninjas has you'll still be done today09:19
smartboyhwyofel, yeah, that's the important point:P09:19
smartboyhwThank you private PPAs:P09:19
apachelogger"To get the mighty Kubuntu pbuilder-hooks (written by mighty Harald Sitter aka apachelogger), run:"09:24
apacheloggerlol09:24
smartboyhwapachelogger, :O09:25
* smartboyhw feels terror terror terror terror terror09:25
smartboyhwyofel, shadeslayer dh_sameversiondep: cannot continue because the reference package libokularcore2abi1 could not be found in debian/control or dpkg status09:28
smartboyhwThe strange error09:28
smartboyhwSince the symbols have been solved now it seems.09:28
yofellook through the control file09:28
yofelthere's some sameversiondep definition in a Depends: field somewhere09:29
smartboyhwyofel, ok.09:29
smartboyhwyofel, yeah got it.09:29
* smartboyhw builds ~ppa6.09:29
smartboyhwUploaded.09:33
smartboyhwHope that this build finally works.09:33
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apacheloggerErrorMessage: não pode copiar dados extráidos para './usr/lib/kde4/libexec/ksendbugmail' para '/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/ksendbugmail.dpkg-new': fim de ficheiro ou stream inesperado09:38
apacheloggerif only I knew what it means09:38
apacheloggeryofel: good to see you SRUd finally :P09:39
yofelI would guess it failed to write a file09:39
apacheloggeryofel: /opt/project-neon5/share/pkg-project-neon5/0/default-settings.mk:3: *** missing target pattern.  Stop.09:39
apacheloggeryofel: file stream got interrupted unexpected I suppose09:39
smartboyhwyofel, \o/09:39
smartboyhwWe can get 4.10.4!09:39
apacheloggerlocale on terminal is le fufufufufufufufufu09:40
yofelapachelogger: why are you using default-settings directly? Either use project-neon5.mk, or write your own %: target09:40
apacheloggeryofel: include /opt/project-neon5/share/pkg-project-neon5/0/project-neon5.mk09:40
apacheloggersee lp:~neon/project-neon5/qtbase09:40
yofelbrrrrr09:41
yofellooking09:41
apacheloggeryofel: don't seem to find default-settings09:41
apacheloggerah, I  am just bad at copynpaste09:42
Riddellyay kde-workspace compiled09:42
smartboyhwRiddell, yep:09:42
smartboyhw:)09:42
apacheloggeryofel: NEON_PROJECT_NAME: := project-neon509:43
yofelapachelogger: hm?09:43
apacheloggerexcess :09:43
yofeleeeek09:43
yofelfixed09:44
apacheloggerworks without the colon it seems \o/09:44
smartboyhw:=)09:45
smartboyhw:P09:45
Riddellhi Oli 09:46
yofelapachelogger: I triggered a build and need to be off for lunch, bbiab09:46
apacheloggerxcb.cpp:46:27: fatal error: xcb/xcb_icccm.h: No such file or directory09:47
apachelogger:(09:47
smartboyhw!?09:48
smartboyhw:O09:48
smartboyhwYes Okular BUILDS!!!!!!!!!!!!09:49
* smartboyhw goes off cheering:P09:49
smartboyhwstill publishing but at least it builds without issues.09:49
apachelogger!find randr.h09:53
ubottuFile randr.h found in e17-dev, libghc-x11-dev, libghc-x11-doc, libgnome-desktop-3-dev, libgnome-desktop-dev, libxcb-randr0-dev, libxrandr-dev, x11proto-randr-dev, xserver-xorg09:53
smartboyhwOkular successfully uploaded.10:02
smartboyhwkwallet done, now kdepim-runtime.10:23
Riddellyou're on a roll10:23
shadeslayerRiddell: maybe even send a email about analitza ABI breakage10:24
shadeslayerRiddell: commit 3c1f0b4ea784eeed754a68e611a1f6f3aa4f9cac fixes it10:24
smartboyhwRiddell, heh.10:25
Riddellshadeslayer: groovy10:26
smartboyhwRiddell, shadeslayer I saw kgoldrunner in the kubuntu-ninjas notes, but I can't see that package in our PPA. Did it disappear or just it wasn't built?10:32
yofelit wasn't uploaded10:33
smartboyhwyofel, for what reasons?10:33
yofelas that was the first batch, bzr-buildpackage-ppa failed10:33
yofelfor whatever reason10:33
yofel(usually it's patches)10:34
smartboyhwGrrrrrrr :P10:34
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/+bug/1183615 you totally should close this bug because I forgot again when a file stream error occurs :P10:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1183615 in kde4libs (Ubuntu) "package kdelibs5-plugins (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: não pode copiar dados extráidos para './usr/lib/kde4/libexec/ksendbugmail' para '/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/ksendbugmail.dpkg-new': fim de ficheiro ou stream inesperado" [Undecided,New]10:49
smartboyhwkdepim-runtime uploaded!11:03
BluesKajHey all11:16
Riddellsmartboyhw: awooga!11:16
smartboyhwRiddell, :P11:17
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smartboyhwRiddell, any thoughts on http://paste.kde.org/777746/ ?11:21
apacheloggeryofel: I can build source package \o/11:27
yofel\o/11:27
smartboyhw\o/11:28
smartboyhwyofel, apachelogger thoughts on http://paste.kde.org/777746/ ?11:28
yofelnot sure, but smokegen is broken too, fix that first11:29
yofelconsidering there's _SMOKE stuff missing that might be the reason11:29
apacheloggeryeah, fixing smoke before fixing stuff that uses smoke is a good idea generally :P11:30
yofelah hm, smokegen is only that stupid lib symlink11:30
apacheloggergawd11:31
apacheloggerkmix is so broken it's just not funny anymore11:31
yofeloh fun, kdenetwork-strigi-analyzers has 0 copyright files11:32
apacheloggerof course11:32
yofelwhy am I not surprised...11:32
apacheloggerthey moved to git11:32
BluesKajthe whole audio setup is a mess ...a nice comprehensive audio suite would be nice 11:32
smartboyhwEh:P11:33
apacheloggerand after some 7 modules having moved to git still no one remembers to copy the flipping copying files11:33
apacheloggerBluesKaj: eh?11:33
yofelanyway, need to fix cmake first11:33
smartboyhwyofel, wait a minute: Didn't smokegen compiled successfully?11:33
BluesKajapachelogger, kmix is just a small part of the problem11:34
yofelsmartboyhw: yeah, it's just list-missing11:34
* apachelogger gets a headache11:34
apacheloggerBluesKaj: it is?11:34
smartboyhwyofel, ah.11:34
yofeltry to retry what failed11:34
yofelor maybe you need to sequentially retry smoke too, if something was chained in the chain11:34
apacheloggeryofel: someone should revise them qtbase build deps, I have a feeling half of those are not needed :O11:34
yofel*changed11:34
BluesKajaw c'mon apachelogger , you know what I mean11:34
apacheloggerBluesKaj: I really don't11:35
yofelapachelogger: does this look sensible? http://paste.kde.org/77775811:35
smartboyhwOK yofel I will fix smokegen. 11:35
yofelsmartboyhw: just add the dropped not-installed file back11:35
smartboyhwyofel, OK.11:35
smartboyhwThen?11:35
apacheloggeryofel: no, see strigi above? :P11:35
smartboyhwJust that?11:35
yofelapachelogger: I copied that from kdepim...11:36
BluesKajapachelogger, I'm oin no mood to rant about alsa's negelect , pulseaudio , pavucontrol , gstreamer etc tetc11:36
apacheloggerthen kdepim is silly too11:36
smartboyhwyofel, ?11:36
apacheloggeryofel: that command will fail immediately if it is not found11:36
apacheloggeryofel: macro_optional_find_package OTOH will only fail at the very end11:36
yofelok, so macro_optional_find_package(Boost REQUIRED) ?11:37
yofelor how does that work?11:37
apachelogger macro_log_feature(STRIGI_FOUND "Strigi" "Metadata extraction" "" FALSE "" "Needed to get metadata for .torrent files") <- you'll simply want a TRUE in the middle there, marking it as required11:37
yofelaaaah11:37
yofelok, next try11:37
apacheloggerBluesKaj: then don't? :P11:37
BluesKaj\I won't11:37
apacheloggerfrom where I am standing there is a comprehensive audio suite which is phonon which is based on pulseaudio :P11:38
BluesKajprefer to run without pulse , but if i want web audio then I need it , alsa used to do the job nicely until pulse got shoved down our throats 11:39
apachelogger-rw-r--r--  1 root root  43M Jun 19 13:38 project-neon5-qtbase_0.0+git20130619-9~saucy0.tar.xz11:40
apacheloggerooomph11:40
apacheloggerthat could take a while11:40
apacheloggerBluesKaj: it didn't11:40
yofelapachelogger: paste.kde.org/77776411:40
apacheloggerthe amarok forum actually has like 30000 cases of proof how alsa did not work11:41
apacheloggerand the phonon bugzilla has about 10 ongoing reasons of why alsa still does not get the job done nicely11:41
apacheloggeryofel: looking good11:41
smartboyhwyofel, can't understand: What not-installed file?11:41
yofelthanks11:41
BluesKajodd, I didn't have any problems with alsa ,and of course I don't use amarok11:42
smartboyhwAh found it now.11:42
apacheloggerBluesKaj: yeah, that's neither objective nor solid evidence of anything, so I'd very much prefer if you didn't pull the multimedia stack down11:43
apacheloggeras a matter of fact it looks the same on every platform that has been around for more than 5 years11:43
apacheloggeron windows 7 you have some six supported means to play audio11:44
BluesKajapachelogger, like I said earlier it would be nice iif there was an audio suite that just worked out of the box , a comprehensive integrated one11:45
apacheloggeryofel: I am uploading to ppa:neon/kf5, we'll see what comes of it11:45
apacheloggerthough I doubt it will build11:45
yofelyay11:45
apacheloggeror at least master did not build with gcc 4.811:45
yofelit's there, that's progress :P11:45
smartboyhwyofel, so I just add back the not-installed and upload it again? .....11:45
apacheloggerthough I got told dev should11:45
apacheloggerso11:45
* smartboyhw does not understand what he should do now....11:45
apacheloggermaybe we are lucky ^^11:45
yofelsmartboyhw: yeah, that'll be enough11:46
smartboyhwyofel, don't tell me that can erase the red light on the page:O11:46
yofelsmartboyhw: it's just red because list-missing isn't empty11:46
apacheloggerBluesKaj: yeah, we have that.11:46
smartboyhwyofel, ah alright.11:46
yofeland not-installed will hide that file11:46
apacheloggerif you choose to not use the solutions we provide then that's not the solutions' problem TBH11:46
smartboyhwUploaded.11:48
BluesKajapachelogger, it's difficult for new users to understand the audio setup , it's rather complicated to them and discouraging at times ..as it is for us trying to help 11:48
apacheloggerhow so? you order devices by priority, there is nothing more one needs to do (or should need to anyway)11:55
BluesKajwhat ?11:57
BluesKajanyway , bbl11:59
apacheloggerBluesKaj: http://wstaw.org/m/2013/06/19/plasma-desktopdI2287.png12:00
apacheloggerhttps://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/kf5/+build/472744712:01
yofelmeh, one time I try to fix something in git and the server craps out12:01
apacheloggeroh, yeah git servers are migrating right now12:01
yofelyeah, I just read the horror story in -sysadmin ^^12:01
yofeloh wow, qtbase compiles \o/12:02
apacheloggerbut for how long ^^12:02
yofelthat's already more than the first editions of project-neon-qt did :P12:03
apacheloggerlol12:03
apacheloggershadeslayer: I may needs a server soonishy12:03
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apacheloggeryofel: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/142832008/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-i386.project-neon5-qtbase_0.0%2Bgit20130619-9~saucy0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz12:21
apacheloggerthat's the gcc problem12:21
apacheloggerno clue what to do :(12:22
apacheloggeror maybe I am still on master12:26
apacheloggergit shallow clones are weird12:26
* apachelogger reclones12:26
Riddellsmartboyhw: sorry missed it, how did you get on with your link error?12:29
Riddellsmartboyhw: looks like it's missing a -lsmoke_akonadi somewhere12:30
Riddellshadeslayer: I still need kubuntu_krfb_link_to_pthread.diff in krfb12:31
smartboyhwRiddell, OK.12:47
Riddellsmartboyhw: complain upstream is probably the best thing, rdale would be the chap12:47
smartboyhwRiddell, heh:P12:48
Riddellhe seems to be on irc12:48
smartboyhwRiddell, pinged him.12:49
smartboyhwWow, now only 4 packages build-fail!:O12:50
smartboyhwAm I wrong or analitza has some --list-missing problems?12:51
smartboyhwUh, it's the symbols:(12:51
* smartboyhw does not want to touch symbols today ...12:51
smartboyhwBut someone has to be the guinea pig, let me be it:P12:52
smartboyhwLaters though, I need to take dinner.12:52
Riddellhmm, I can't run kppp cos I'm not in dialout13:16
soeei see only 3 packages failed to build for saucy? 13:18
smartboyhwsoee, yep. But Riddell you haven't yet split all packages right?13:20
Riddelljust finishing kdenetwork13:21
smartboyhwRiddell, great:)13:22
smartboyhwRiddell, what's the response of korundum?13:22
Riddellsmartboyhw: did you see those two patches?13:23
smartboyhwRiddell, no didn't. Now working on analitza.13:23
yofellibkwinglutils.so.1abi2 libkwinglutils1abi1 #MINVER#13:25
* yofel thought he already fixed that o.O13:25
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apacheloggeryofel: uploading new qtbase13:27
apacheloggerthis time apparently really from dev branch ^^13:27
smartboyhwRiddell, you going to fix korundum or me?13:30
Riddellsmartboyhw: I'm still on splits13:30
smartboyhwRiddell, OK I shall do it then.13:30
smartboyhwGuys, we have prob with krfb https://i142838148.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/142838148/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-i386.krfb_4%3A4.10.80-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.10~ppa2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz?token=87b02fb2551e0decb4c4509968692674 (cmake error?)13:43
smartboyhwanalitza uploaded BTW.13:44
Riddellsmartboyhw: thanks, build deps need fixing, will look13:44
smartboyhwAnd can someone tell me how adding not-installed to smokegen works, I added it and it still is in red light...13:45
smartboyhwHmm sounds like an old problem came back on analitza.....13:47
smartboyhwlibsmokekate..........13:47
smartboyhw!?13:48
yofelwhat does analitza have to do with smoke?13:50
smartboyhwyofel, sorry korundum:P13:51
smartboyhwAnd actually I just found that korundum failed to build in armhf for 4.10.4 .....13:51
yofelsmartboyhw: and it seems you didn't add the patch to analitza13:52
smartboyhwyofel, you mean in bzr or?13:52
yofelsmartboyhw: well, I don't see it in bzr13:53
smartboyhwyofel, wait what patch?13:53
smartboyhwI only changed symbols.13:53
smartboyhwPatch was for korundum...13:53
yofelsmartboyhw: you didn't read the pad...13:53
yofeland your symbol changes are something which isn't allowed13:53
smartboyhwyofel, ah? (for second sentence)13:54
yofel- _ZNK8Analitza12PlotsFactory11requestPlotERKNS_10ExpressionENS_9DimensionE@Base 4:4.9.8013:54
yofel- _ZNK8Analitza11PlotBuilder6createERK6QColorRK7QStringPNS_9VariablesE@Base 4:4.9.8013:54
yofelthose are missing PUBLIC symbols13:54
yofelthat must never happen without an SOVERSION change13:54
* smartboyhw is too confused with symbols....13:55
Riddellthe soversion change did happen didn't it?13:55
smartboyhwLet me add patch first ....13:55
yofelthat's why you need to cherry-pick 3c1f0b4ea784eeed754a68e611a1f6f3aa4f9cac13:55
yofelRiddell: right ^13:55
smartboyhwSorry guys...13:56
yofelsmartboyhw: well, we helped you this time around because this is a complicated matter. But you really need to investigate every single MISSING symbol13:56
yofelsmartboyhw: reason: if an application uses the library and uses those methods, it will crash with a symbol lookup error unless it's at least rebuilt (or fixed if the API changed too)13:58
smartboyhwyofel, OK.13:59
smartboyhwRe-uploaded.14:00
yofelsmartboyhw: btw, this is a good read on the topic: http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/column/libpkg-guide/libpkg-guide.html14:00
yofelyou should've at least read the library packaging part of the debian policy though14:00
smartboyhwWhoas....14:00
smartboyhwAnyways, analitza done, now can someone tell me why that smokekate returned to haunt korundum!?:O14:02
RiddellTm_T: you admin kopete-devel mailing list? could you let through my posts?14:04
* smartboyhw cries....14:04
yofelsmartboyhw: btw. if you add header-less patches, please at least mention the patch filename and commit hash that was used if you add upstream patches.14:06
yofelWe don't require DEP-3 or anything like that, but at least this is good practice14:06
smartboyhwyofel, ok......14:06
smartboyhwSo I have to re-upload again?14:07
smartboyhw...14:07
* smartboyhw is already getting smoked of that smokekate thing...14:07
yofelwhere's that anyway? I only see akonadi stuff in kroundum14:07
GGGGEEOl14:07
smartboyhwyofel, it just shows up.14:08
smartboyhwhttp://paste.kde.org/777926/14:08
yofelwhat o.O?14:09
smartboyhwyofel, and there IS a kate folder in modules...14:09
yofelyeah, but we don't build the kate bindings...14:09
yofeltoo unstable I think14:09
smartboyhwGrrrrr.........14:10
smartboyhwIt haunted us after 3 cycles:O14:10
yofel-- Skip SmokeKDE bindings: Kate14:10
smartboyhwI agree....14:10
yofelas for analitza: yes, you'll have to upload again14:11
yofelbut wait, the package build will fail anyway14:11
smartboyhwWe aren't going to ship smokeKDE right?14:11
yofelhuh? ofc. we ship it14:12
smartboyhwAh yep.14:12
smartboyhwyofel, I mean kate.14:12
smartboyhwsmokekate.14:12
* smartboyhw goes to fix analitza again:)14:12
yofelno, that not, we ship:14:12
yofel-- Build SmokeKDE bindings: Akonadi;Attica;KDECore;KDEUi;KFile;KHTML;KIO;KNewStuff2;KNewStuff3;KParts;KTextEditor;KUtils;Nepomuk;Okular;Plasma;Solid;Soprano14:12
smartboyhwyofel, so I have to patch korundum to not make kate?14:13
smartboyhw!?14:13
yofelmeh, let me try to build it myself. Otherwise I'm just guessing14:14
* Riddell cheers as he gets kopete working with no missing symbols14:20
yofelsmartboyhw: I don't get your kate error here14:22
smartboyhwyofel, :O14:22
yofelmaybe you have some kate headers lying around?14:22
yofel(the cmake part for kate is weird...)14:22
smartboyhwyofel, check your modules folder...14:22
yofelbut the akonadi issue is ${SMOKE_AKONADI_LIBRARY} being empt...14:22
smartboyhw:O14:22
yofelsmartboyhw: modules folder?14:23
yofelI know that kate is there, but14:23
yofel-- Skip KorundumModules bindings: Kate14:23
yofelso I'm fine14:23
smartboyhwyofel, hmm it doesn't skip for me weird.14:23
yofelwell, as I understand the check, it looks whether you have kate, but not whether you have smokekate14:23
yofelif you have the kate headers lying around without smokekate it fails14:24
* Riddell cheers as the ical transition goes through14:26
smartboyhwI tried to remove packages with kate and it will remove 67 packages:O14:26
BluesKajyeah I had the kate problem as well , so I re-enabled the proposed deb and yofel's n inja deb , and the right dependencies installed , after which I promptly commented them again 14:26
smartboyhwonly 2 of them have kate in it.14:26
yofelwell, I don't get why it even finds it for you...14:27
smartboyhwThe removed packages include all the dependencies to build this....14:27
* smartboyhw has a weird system...14:27
shadeslayerapachelogger: server?14:27
* smartboyhw does reverse-steps.14:28
yofelsmartboyhw: do you have a  kate/plugin.h somewhere?14:28
smartboyhwRemoving then build-dep.14:28
yofelthat's what it looks for14:28
Riddellyou can build-conflict if it's a problem14:28
yofelnah, it's only an issue on his system14:28
soeeon g+ is it possible to see hangout history ?14:31
yofelsmartboyhw: hm, looking closer the cmake output is already weird14:31
* Riddell moves onto the all important kdetoys14:31
yofelthere is no found message for okular and akonadi14:32
smartboyhwyofel, I have...14:32
smartboyhwakonadi.14:32
smartboyhwThen it fails at kate.14:32
apacheloggershadeslayer: for builder14:33
shadeslayerapachelogger: what are your requirements?14:33
apacheloggerroot access14:33
apacheloggerwell14:33
apacheloggeractually that are pbuilder's requirements ^^14:33
apacheloggeralso at least 10gb of space14:34
shadeslayeruhm .. uhm14:34
shadeslayerspace is not an issue14:34
apacheloggerCan't open perl script "bin/syncqt": No such file or directory14:34
apacheloggereh14:34
apacheloggeruh14:34
shadeslayeryou could have complete git clones on disk14:34
apacheloggerOo14:34
shadeslayer*git clones of qt514:35
yofelsmartboyhw: what does 'locate kate/plugin.h' yield on your system?14:35
smartboyhwyofel, speaking of that: Looking at the patch, it should be libanalitza5, X-Debian-Abi =0?14:35
yofelright14:35
smartboyhwyofel, I've removed all kate things, so locate says nothing14:35
yofelvery weird14:36
smartboyhwyofel, but DebianABIManager still fails!14:36
smartboyhw:O14:36
yofelwith what error?14:36
smartboyhw-- DebianABIManager: CMake target 'analitza' SOVERSION does not match package name 'libanalitza5'14:36
smartboyhw!?14:36
apacheloggerrm -rf include && QTDIR="." perl bin/syncqt14:37
apacheloggeroh14:37
apacheloggerI am stupid14:37
smartboyhwapachelogger, not as stupid as me;)14:37
smartboyhwyofel, ^14:37
yofelo.O14:38
smartboyhw0.o14:38
yofeluh wait14:39
yofel$ ls -lha /opt/project-neon/lib/libanalitza.so*14:40
yofellrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   16 Jun 18 21:47 /opt/project-neon/lib/libanalitza.so -> libanalitza.so.014:40
yofellrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   16 Jun 18 21:47 /opt/project-neon/lib/libanalitza.so.0 -> libanalitza.so.514:40
yofel-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 588K Jun 18 21:47 /opt/project-neon/lib/libanalitza.so.514:40
yofelthis looks totally wrong14:40
smartboyhwMeh.....14:40
yofelshadeslayer: I think apol misunderstood how that's supposed to be used14:41
shadeslayerplz be complaining loudly to upstream14:41
* smartboyhw goes bozoing.14:42
smartboyhwIs there a analitza channel?14:42
smartboyhwIRC I mean14:42
yofel#kdeedu I think14:43
yofelor -edu14:43
smartboyhwyofel, OK.14:44
smartboyhw#kdeedu14:44
smartboyhwOops14:44
yofel#kde-edu it is14:44
yofelsmartboyhw: just ping apol, he did that change14:45
smartboyhwI might not be able to finish off analitza today probably, sleeping in 30 minutes or so...14:51
yofelnp, you did a lot today :)14:52
smartboyhwyofel, yeah.14:53
* smartboyhw starts to faint:P14:53
smartboyhwQuintasan, you are still working on klickety right?14:55
smartboyhwThat status page is interesting: Top part is mainly shadeslayer, middle part mainly yofel and bottom part mainly me (:O LOL)14:55
smartboyhwAnd the split part to Riddell 14:56
yofelyeah, nice gradient :P14:56
smartboyhwROFL14:56
shadeslayerit's full of DONE14:56
shadeslayerwhich is all that I care about :P14:56
smartboyhwshadeslayer, it's not ALL done however...14:56
smartboyhwI think we can finish it off tmr.14:57
shadeslayerhurray, chrome crashed14:57
smartboyhwshadeslayer, oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh14:57
yofelok, from what I see Riddell fixed korundum in git already14:58
smartboyhwyofel, ok.14:59
shadeslayer->dinner14:59
shadeslayerbbl14:59
Riddellyofel: well I could do with checking that over, making those a requires I'm not sure is the right answer14:59
yofelwell, it *builds*14:59
Riddelland rdale says it's fine so it seems likely15:00
smartboyhwRiddell, which commit?15:01
Riddellsmartboyhw: the two I made15:02
* smartboyhw checks15:02
yofelbbl15:03
smartboyhwRiddell, I'm giving up packaging for korundum, the kate error is there still. (After installing all the build-deps)15:06
smartboyhwyofel, ^15:07
Riddellsmartboyhw: committed any changes to bzr?15:08
smartboyhwRiddell, not yet.15:08
smartboyhwFor korundum I mean.15:08
Riddellsmartboyhw: mind and do that before you go to sleep15:08
smartboyhwRiddell, I don't really have much changes here, I can't even build...15:09
Riddellok15:10
Riddelljust leave a note in etherpad then15:10
smartboyhwRiddell, DONE.15:12
smartboyhwRiddell, amor failed (#include file missing error)15:23
Riddellsmartboyhw: yeah fixing it now, missing cmake check on xlib15:24
Riddellor missing build-dep depending on your point of view15:24
Riddellhmm, 1 hour to repackage kdetoys15:27
Riddellso sdk will probably take at least 215:27
smartboyhwWill do analitza tmr (or if anyone can pleaes takeover), I'm sleeping and the patch has been committed but not arrived:O15:45
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ryanakcaThere, #kubuntu-bugs now forwards to here.17:32
lordievaderGood evening.17:44
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ahoneybunhello all19:30
lordievaderGood evening, ahoneybun 19:31
ahoneybunhey lordievader :)19:31
ahoneybunlordievader: good afternoon19:35
lordievaderahoneybun: ;)19:50
ahoneybunlordievader: have you gotten around to reading the getting involved page?19:50
lordievaderYes, I think it is quite good. Gets the finished stamp if you ask me. (The include might need a bit of a trim)19:53
ahoneybunlordievader: can you trim it and then mark it as finished?19:54
lordievaderahoneybun: On the trello page?19:54
ahoneybunyes19:54
yofel_great, broken libkwinglutils ABI -.-20:16
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yofelo.O20:25
yofel+ (arch=amd64)_ZN4KWin14XRenderPictureC2Eji@ABI_1_4 4:4.10.8020:25
yofel  (subst|arch=i386)_ZN4KWin14XRenderPictureC2E{size_t}i@ABI_1_4 4:4.10.8020:25
yofelhow can that happen...20:26
yofelRuntimeError: the sip module implements API v10.0 but the PyKDE4.kdeui module requires API v9.221:12
yofelit's this time of the year again...21:12
ScottKyofel: Bug xnox for not updating python-qt4 like he said.21:15
ScottKThat and I kind of screwed up in Debian, but xnox is slowing the cleanup in Ubuntu.21:15
ScottKOr if you want to be proactive about it, just merge python-qt4 from Debian.21:16
ScottKThen do a no change upload of pykde4 after it's built.21:16
ScottKPersonally, I'm waiting for xnox, since he TIL python-=qt4.21:16
yofelhm, he did upload python-qt4 yesterday21:17
ScottKyes.  too soon21:17
yofellet me check again if I'm missing something21:17
ScottKNo, you aren't.21:17
yofelaah21:17
ScottKHe needs to do it again.21:17
yofelok ^^21:17
* ScottK pokes at xnox.22:36
Riddellyofel: no libkwinactiveglutils1abi2.symbols?23:11
yofelthere was none of abi123:11
yofel*for23:11
Riddellyofel: oh? how did you know to bump the abi?23:12
yofelthat's synchronized with !abi, as debian abi manager can't handle double building with differen cmake targets23:12
yofelwith !active I mean23:12
yofelso libkwinglutils and libkwinactiveglutils always have the same ABI version23:13
yofelit doesn't work otherwise23:13
Riddellmm, I learn something new, thanks23:14
Riddellbut I didn't review martin's post to kde-packager on kde-workspace so there  might be more to do there23:15
yofelas I understood it that's all about depending on wayland and EGL23:16
yofelwayland we have now, egl maybe not and we don't recommend weston yet23:18
yofelI uploaded a new meta-kde with meta packages for kdesdk, kdeadmin, kdetoys and kdenetwork23:18
Riddelloh cool thanks23:19
yofelkdesdk might need fixing depending on the final list of binary packages we have23:19
ScottKDefinitely not Weston.  It's only for people to play with who know what they are doing.23:22
Riddellbut that's a soft dependency so it can be a Suggests23:26
yofelpkgkde-symbolshelper... are you kidding me??23:27
yofelI have (subst)_ZN4KWin14XRenderPictureC1E{size_t}i@ABI_1_4 4:4.10.8023:27
yofelnow it wants to change that to (subst|arch=i386)_ZN4KWin14XRenderPictureC1E{size_t}i@ABI_1_4 4:4.10.8023:28
yofelbut on an earlier build it wanted to add + (arch=amd64)_ZN4KWin14XRenderPictureC2Eji@ABI_1_4 4:4.10.8023:28
* yofel is confused23:28

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