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dholbachgood morning06:35
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hippyjakeIs their a Q&A today, or did i miss it?16:11
k1l_jono: is there a q&a today?16:42
jonok1l_, yes16:42
jonoat 6pm UTC16:42
k1l_so in 1hour and 15min :)16:43
jono9mins to go17:52
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k03llso where is jono bacon? xD18:00
who_methere he is :)18:01
theadminI can see you18:01
k1l_there he is :)18:01
netcurlihey jono18:01
FlyingPighi jono18:01
who_meyeah, I can see ya18:01
James_EppAre you related to Francis Bacon?18:01
hippyjakeJono!18:01
FlyingPigyou are live18:01
theadminNot anymore, though...18:01
theadminThis thing is stuck... oh there we go18:02
k03lljonoooooooooo yeah!!!18:02
bashrcI can see you18:02
snwh:O fedora shirt18:02
snwh:P18:02
k03llim on with my IPAD18:02
Martinjo84Video qual good :D18:02
nlsthzn\o18:02
k03llQUESTION: The question is, what is the Question?18:03
nlsthznsilly steam didn't want to stop downloading games :/ so I had to kill it18:04
fromeijncan you tell me more about the ubuntu phone software and wenn wil it be ready to use?18:04
snwhQUESTION: tell us about your early days at KDE18:04
SimonK1QUESTION: Will Ubuntu-(Touch) updates still come directly from Canonical-Servers [for all devices] in the future?18:05
tashasix6QUESTION: How is mir better than X and when will it be available (stable)?18:05
Waltok18:05
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hippyjakeQUESTION: Hows the dog food? ;P18:06
Guest23291ok!!18:06
theadminQUESTION: Why are you wearing a Fedora shirt?18:06
nlsthznCarrier has arrived...18:06
fromeijnQuestion: can you tell me more about the ubuntu phone software and wenn wil it be ready to use?18:06
who_meQUESTION: Has there been a decision on what will be shipping with 14.04 graphics server wise. People speculate that it's only going to be Mir but I seem to recall plands to ship both Mir and X1118:06
k1l_QUESTION: relating on the devel-mailingslist: what is the prefered solution to keep community spin offs like kubuntu running when the wayland/MIR switch comes in18:06
FlyingPigQUESTTION: If Mark would offer to buy you a car, which one would you want?18:06
JamesIsInQUESTION:  Will Unity/Dash offer a small on-screen search version (such as Gnome-Do does) to reduce distraction?18:06
SimonK1QUESTION: Is the announcement of NVIDIA to add Arm 7 (armhf) drivers connected to Ubuntu-(Touch)?18:07
theadminJamesIsIn: Already does, click the "Restore" button and resize it however you like18:07
Guest23291please , related to support to 13.0418:07
Guest23291what is the date limit?18:07
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theadminGuest23291: 9 months, meaning 3 months after 13.10 is out18:07
theadminGuest23291: Support doesn't belong here though, go to #ubuntu18:08
RAZORQHow about Ubuntu Touch for x86 phones? I don't see any ubuntu image for my ZTE GXI or Motorola Razr I18:08
Guest23291ok tks !!!18:08
theadminQUESTION: When does the narwhal bacon? :D18:08
k1l_RAZORQ: ubuntu-touch needs the android base so far. so there is alot of problems before 14.0418:08
AnilQUESTION: Is Ubuntu going to focus on making "Ubuntu Phones", or on making Ubuntu available for many phones?18:09
ronsQ. When will GIMP 2.8 be supported in Ubuntu 12.x?18:10
Guest23291and what about defy + mobile?any possibility to Ubunti OS?18:10
mumbuntuQUESTION: How is Ubuntu going to prevent companies like Apple and Microsoft copy it and then possibly sue it back for developments first introduced by Ubuntu?18:10
k1l_Guest23291: make sure your device got a free bootloader first18:10
RAZORQWe want Ubuntu Touch for ZET GXI18:10
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nlsthznTouch for S3 still pretty broken :(18:11
theadminrons: Never, that's the ubuntu versioning system -- please look up "GIMP 2.8 ppa precise" on Google or such.18:11
netcurlihttp://www.jonobacon.org/2013/06/17/ubuntu-and-xda-an-awesome-relationship/18:12
marrablddid anyone check the math was correct?18:13
Martinjo84marrabld: hehe18:13
awaldschmidt89Is Ubuntu ready to be used on the galaxy s3?18:14
rons@theadmin thanks for clarifying18:15
nlsthznawaldschmidt89: not so much https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/i930018:16
austin_powers_12QUESTION: are you really weraring a fedora t-shirt? :D18:16
Deuchnordhi18:17
marrabldQUESTION Do you do any home music recording.  Have you used any music software such as Ardour, Hydrogen, guitar synths, Linux VSTs etc?18:17
NikTh2Is this a FEDORA T-Shirt ?18:18
awaldschmidt89QUESTION: What all phones are able to run Ubuntu and will it work with us cellular?18:18
DeuchnordI thought too NickTh2 X-)18:18
RAZORQWill be Ubuntu Touch for ZTE GXI?18:18
marrabldQUESTION will mir mean we can't do X forwarding through ssh ?18:19
mastieraustin_powers_12: this t-shirt is a secret message meaning: we're moving to systemd ;-18:19
mastier;)18:19
DeuchnordxD18:19
NikTh2mastier,  LoL18:19
k03llQUESTION: Will it be possible to remove lenses from home screen?18:19
theadmink03ll: You can now: sudo apt-get remove unity-lens-whatever18:20
SimonK1QUESTION: Will Apps/Programms will be able to run on Mir, X and maybe Wayland without recompiling?18:20
RAZORQ^He asked about ubuntu phones i think xD18:20
theadminRAZORQ: Ah, that I wouldn't know :D18:20
k03lltheadmin: I know but also on ubuntu touch?18:20
RAZORQ^i think no :/18:21
k03llRAZORQ:i hate u :D18:21
DeuchnordQUESTION: will Unity be more performous with Mir?18:22
RAZORQk03ll: <318:22
k03llthis is a facebooks shirt :D18:22
austin_powers_12I love the fact you are wearing a fedora T-Shirt, to be clear :D18:23
RAZORQIf ubuntu touch will be for ZTE GXI i will totally uninstall android and i will have ubuntu ecosystem :)18:23
k03llwhere to buy that fedora shirt?18:23
RAZORQ^try on ebay?18:24
AnilIs Ubuntu going to focus on making "Ubuntu Phones", like new unique devices, or on making Ubuntu available for many phones?18:24
AnilQUESTION: Is Ubuntu going to focus on making "Ubuntu Phones", like new unique devices, or on making Ubuntu available for many phones?18:25
raevolQUESTION: have nVidia/ATI made any moves to support 3d acceleration/gaming on Mir?18:25
Manish878Jono,when and how did you start your ubuntu journey?18:25
LinuxcomebackQUESTION: have you try peppermint os 4 and do you think it will be lubuntu as a distro18:25
Linuxcomebackbeat?18:26
k03llManish878:this is not a question :)18:26
LinuxcomebackQUESTION: have you try peppermint os418:26
theadminLinuxcomeback: Please don't repeat questions, he has to go through every one, he'll answer it18:27
NikTh2Manish878 : please prefix any question with "question" (in capital letters).18:27
Brian_in_TexasJono, I know you do music. Do you use Ubuntu or Windows to record yourself?18:27
RAZORQQUESTION: Will officially be Ubuntu Touch for x86 phones? (Like ZTE GXI and Motorola Razr I18:27
theadminQUESTION: What's your opinion on the MATE desktop, do you beleive GNOME2 forks are a good idea, or is it just people stuck in the past?18:29
RobbieNorQUESTION: As a novice, I really enjoyed your build a web browser video showing off quickly, do you intend to make a similar one for Ubuntu Touch with QML?18:29
austin_powers_12I am interested too. I would start to learn QML but I don't know how I should do that...18:30
mrubuntuWHY do you dont product usb stick tv  with ubuntu tv ?18:31
Unix_ManiHello Fellow Ubuntu users18:31
Manish878NikTh2: Thank you for lettin me know.18:31
NikTh2QUESTION: Any  progress on Ubuntu Members Certificates ? I never took an answer in email form. Say few words about this. Thanks.18:32
Unix_Manican any1 help me get this to work in 13.04 http://www.bvog.com/?post=ID4zi3M52VS81gZ7s18:32
NikTh2Manish878:  :-)18:32
ahoneybun_QUESTION: what does Mir mean for Kubuntu, Xubuntu and others?18:34
Unix_Manihttp://www.youramonkey.com/?m=ID4zi3M52VS81gZ7s18:34
RAZORQhow to get ubuntu certificate?18:34
theadminahoneybun_: (he's answering that right now, basically so far they're shipping with X but maybe later they'll switch to mir)18:34
SimonK1QUESTION: What do you think is the most interesting, non fundamental, addon on a smartphone?18:34
theadminahoneybun_: (right now -- right now for me, lol, I'm a few minutes behind because I had to pause)18:34
NikTh2RAZORQ: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/2013/06/14/certificates-for-ubuntu-members/18:35
Unix_Manican some1 help me18:35
Unix_Manihttp://www.youramonkey.com/?m=ID4zi3M52VS81gZ7s18:35
NikTh2RAZORQ: You have to be an Ubuntu Member first18:35
ahoneybun_theadmin: but if Ubuntu only supports and develop Mir who will do that for X?18:35
k1lUnix_Mani: stop that please18:36
NikTh2Unix_Mani: LoL .. but enough18:36
Unix_Manithank you for the IP's time to test PDOS18:37
ahoneybun_QUESTION: what window manager will Ubuntu 14.04 use if it uses Mir?18:38
JarekJ83QUESTION: any good app for recordin sound from guitar, without big delay?18:38
Manish878Question: Will ubuntu continue with firefox as it default browser? thoughts on chromium/chrome as the default browser for ubuntu!!18:38
RAZORQGuys how to join to ubuntu members in Launchpad?18:38
mrubuntuUBUNTU TV STICK  ?18:39
NikTh2RAZORQ: Read here please -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership18:39
number22QUESTION: does/will ubuntu touch support third-party lenses18:39
sebsebsebthought this was on18:40
sebsebsebnearly forgot kind of18:40
RAZORQSo i can't join if i don't do something for ubuntu?18:40
sebsebsebQUESTION:  Is that a Fedora t-shirt? no?18:41
rthachQ: Will ubuntu focus more on accessibility especially on Unity, when zooming on the desktop, it can't zoom in to the Unity Panel to see the date and time or icons?18:41
tashasix6yes it is a fedora t-shirt18:41
sebsebsebQUESTION: How was Sweden?18:41
number22QUESTION: if only one producer had chance to make hardware for ubuntu touch, which company would you choose18:41
raevolshoot, did i miss the answer to my nvidia/aty ?18:42
tashasix6yes18:42
k1lRAZORQ: yes. read that link given to you18:42
raevoltashasix6: was the answer "no"?18:42
pdg1QUESTION: What's the wildest dream you have for ubuntu phone?18:43
tashasix6the answer was they are talking about it lol18:43
raevoltashasix6: thanks!18:43
tashasix6They cant say yes or no atm since its business and would be unprofessional :)18:44
tashasix6Youre welcome18:44
RAZORQk1l: i read it, and i understand that i must do something for ubuntu18:44
k1lRAZORQ: yes, that is right18:44
RAZORQ^But im not programmer or something :( (Maybe in future)18:44
sebsebsebQUESTION:  Going with what you were saying, and maybe a bit of a difficult question to answer,  give us some examples maybe of additional things you do, other than PR, but related to being the community manager?18:45
k1lRAZORQ: as mentioned on that page you said you read, you dont need to be a programmer18:45
RAZORQ^Yeah but i don't have any idea that what i can do for Ubuntu18:47
theadminQUESTION: Do you beleive that Ubuntu on phones and tablets will bring more users to the desktop as well?18:47
k1lRAZORQ: just think about what your skills are or what you find interessting and if that could help ubuntu in any way18:47
HairyharryQUESTION: When ever I've seen benchmarks, on games that run in both windows and linux, Windows 8 seems to achieve much higher frame rates . Where is the bottleneck in linux and what needs to happen to get it up to par?18:47
ahoneybun_QUESTION: does the ubuntu cert count to kubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu members?18:48
tashasix6I second RAZORQ on that one.18:48
JarekJ83QUESTION: is there any premiere date for Ubuntu for tablets? and for phones ofcourse?18:48
tashasix6er not razor.. sorry x3 I meant Hairyharry >.>18:48
RAZORQk1l: i can do graphic or music for ubuntu, but it have sense?18:48
k1lRAZORQ: there are grafic and design teams. talk to them if you could help there18:49
SimonK1QUESTION: In the future, will users have to register to download free / open-source apps?18:50
FlyingPigQUESTION: Did you ask Apple wether they want to ship Ubuntu on their machines? :P18:50
rthachQUESTIONS: Will ubuntu focus more on accessibility especially on Unity?18:50
RAZORQ^I will try, but for now i new static ubuntu user (i used it in 3 years past, but i must use windows, and now i can fully use UBUNTU :) So now i learn Ubuntu, and try to customize it for me :)18:50
theadminjono: I see you are familiar with Reddit. That's what my "narwhal" question was about. Basically it means "Are you a redditor?" and the answer is "Midnight".18:51
RAZORQ^Sorry for bad english18:51
dshimerQUESTION: How well do you know the folks from UUPC, Linux Outlaws or other Linux podcasts, always curious when I listen to them if there is any personal relationship (besides Popey)18:51
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Manish878Question: Jono,i have been contributing to the ubuntu community from the past 2 years by making video tutorials on youtube.so does that mean i can apply for ubuntu member certificate? or do i have to contribute in the ubuntu development side too!18:52
Techman246QUESTION: why not take some donations and put them to putting out ubuntu comercials on television that way more people could see it?18:52
NikTh2theadmin: Prefix your question with "question" (in capital letters) or will be skipped..18:52
theadminNikTh2: Was no question.18:53
theadminNikTh2: Was statement.18:53
theadminNikTh2: :P18:53
NikTh2LoL.. saw that know..18:53
RAZORQQUESTION: Is there any video tutorial how to port Ubuntu Touch to x86 phones?18:53
NikTh2now18:53
snwhQUESTION: do you like bread?18:54
sebsebsebQUESTION: Guitar time?18:54
NikTh2Manish878: All the requirements are in this page.. -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership18:54
sebsebsebQUESTION: Do you like mlik going with snwh 's question :d ?18:54
NicolasQ: When will the Ubuntu desktop get more in-line with the design elements of the phone. (Unity, QML, etc.)18:55
ahoneybun_QUESTION: will there be work done on the verizon galaxy nexus for ubuntu touch?18:56
snwhQUESTION: inline with sebsebseb's question, chocolate or white?18:56
sebsebsebsnwh: white wine ?18:56
SimonK1QUESTION: Today you don't have to register a account to download free / open-source programms in the SoftwareCenter. Will this change?18:56
snwhmilk, obviously :P18:56
austin_powers_12QUESTION: why did you choose QML to ubuntu touch's apps?18:56
ubuntutuQUESTION: hi jono :D18:57
sebsebsebQUESTION: Do you like kiwi fruit?  it's snwh 's fault why I am asking this now :d18:58
sebsebsebyes guitar18:58
rthachAir guitar18:59
NikTh2yes Guitar.. (Metallica)18:59
mdsnwill there be some day ubuntu mate version, or something else for old machines, withot oldtimer GIS?18:59
mdsnGUIs*18:59
theadminmdsn: Give Xubuntu a go. XFCE and GNOME2 are very, very similar.18:59
Manish878Nikth2: Thanx for the link boy! you are awesome!19:00
bkerensajono: I do not think the Ubuntu Membership Board would be inclined to accept an application that had sustained contributions that were purely Youtube Tutorials about Ubuntu.19:00
k1lguitear \o/19:00
k1l*guitar19:00
marrabldsome sweaps picking!19:00
NicolasQUESTION: When will the Ubuntu desktop get more in-line with the design elements of the phone? (Unity, QML, etc.)19:00
snwhQUESTION: blues guitar?19:00
sebsebsebNicolas: no to late, you can ask that next time though19:01
TheBigDaveCSimonK1 doesn't like guitar19:01
Nicolasaw19:01
bkerensaManish878: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership <-- has the criteria for membership19:01
Nicolas@sebsebseb He skipped my question.19:01
sebsebsebNicolas: well he might answer at the very end, but probably not19:01
sebsebsebjono: ^19:01
ubuntutuwill this be the new ubuntu startup sound?19:01
NikTh2Nothing ELSE matters !! YEAAA19:02
AnilQuickly workflow and tools link leads to page not found: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/quickly-workflow/19:02
ubuntutupls play the pokemon theme19:03
theadminQUESTION: Many Ubuntu desktop apps are coded in Python. Will Python be available for mobile development as well.19:03
theadmins/\.$/?/19:03
sdkNo official support for python19:04
theadminsdk: Thanks19:04
ubuntututheadmin:where do you come from?19:04
theadminubuntutu: It doesn't really matter. I hate the country I come from, so whatever.19:04
* sebsebseb remembers wehre the theadmin is from :d19:05
rthachbloah19:05
RAZORQtheadmin: poland xD?19:05
theadminRAZORQ: Cannot into space. But no. Is of Russia.19:05
RAZORQRussia is nice :)19:06
netcurlithank you19:06
RAZORQPolish-Russian vodka :)19:06
Techman246did the stream die for anyone else?19:07
Surlent777the stream died because it's over19:07
Techman246okay didn't relize that was the end it just died with no warning19:08
evilytwistedis it too late to ask questions?19:24
k1levilytwisted: yes19:26
evilytwisted:(19:26
evilytwistedsuch is life.. missing out on stuff thats important19:27
k1lyou can watch the record or come in next time :)19:29
evilytwistedwhen is the next one? i wanted to ask him something that i think is kinda important to the ubuntu community19:30
k1lnext week same time19:31
evilytwistedty19:31
k1lso 1:30 earlier than now19:31
Ubuntunatorhey19:48
januhello19:48
januhelp to in learning ubunto shell19:49
stoffhey opensource people20:01
stoffanyone here?20:02
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