=== salem_ is now known as _salem === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] [01:27] nobody here [01:28] some people are here [01:37] does anyone know how to set the default timezone? [01:39] pico: run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata' from the shell [01:42] many thanks! also, is there a difference between the shell you get with adb shell and the terminal app? the adb shell's PATH can't find sudo [01:47] pico: yes, in the current images there's a difference - 'adb shell' gives you a shell in the android environment and the terminal app gives you one in the Ubuntu chroot. Starting roughly next week, 'adb shell' will also give you an Ubuntu shell. [01:47] this is probably documented in the wiki, though I wouldn't be able to tell you where :) [01:47] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes [01:47] is what you want to bookmark [01:48] you have to do the tzdata thing every time you flash at the moment [01:48] good to know we're consolidating the adb/chroot thing [01:51] thanks, I really should have read the topic... === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [02:06] no worries, just pay it forward! === jono is now known as Guest14995 [02:31] jcastro: we're not really consilidating it, we're swapping it from "Ubuntu chroot on top of Android" to "Android chroot on top of Ubuntu" [02:32] though I'm not 100% it'll be a chroot in the new setup [04:12] Hello I am having trouble installing ubuntu touch to my Nexus 10. When I run sudo phablet-flash -b -l i get the following error "Error while downloading, ensure connection" [04:13] Full output: jwhorto1@Jaycen-Lenovo:~/Downloads/adt-bundle-linux-x86_64-20130522/sdk/platform-tools$ sudo phablet-flash -b -l The -l/--latest option is deprecated, latest is now the default Device detected as manta Download set to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview//daily-preinstalled/current Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com Download directory [04:13] Zarkeo: you shouldn't need sudo [04:13] without sudo, same problem [04:13] Zarkeo: can you get to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/ in your browser? [04:13] Connecting to cdimage.ubuntu.com (cdimage.ubuntu.com)|91.189.92.174|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 2013-06-18 21:09:22 ERROR 404: Not Found. [04:13] yes [04:14] 404 means no [04:14] the 404 is only from shell [04:14] well, it means you got to *something* [04:14] but not the right page [04:15] Downloading http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview//daily-preinstalled/current/raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip --2013-06-18 21:09:22-- http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview//daily-preinstalled/current/raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip Resolving cdimage.ubuntu.com (cdimage.ubuntu.com)... 91.189.92.174, 2001:67c:1360:8c01::21, 2001:67c:1360:8c01::1f, ... Connecting to cdimage.ubuntu.com (cdimage.ubunt [04:15] HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 2013-06-18 21:09:22 ERROR 404: Not Found. Error while downloading, ensure connection [04:16] oh, raring, that's the problem [04:16] Spent a couple hours trying various workarounds, to no avail. Help is much much much appreciated. [04:16] you need to make sure you have the latest version of phablet-tools installed [04:16] it should be looking for saucy images, not raring ones [04:17] apt-get udpate && apt-get upgrade [04:17] you should get phablet-tools 0.14something [04:18] trying now [04:18] How to use Google Contacts in Ubuntu Touch? | http://askubuntu.com/q/309982 [04:22] However, before running apt-upgrade, i got [04:22] apt-cache show phablet-tools Package: phablet-tools Priority: extra Section: admin Installed-Size: 141 Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers Architecture: all Version: 0.14daily13.05.29ubuntu.unity.next-0ubuntu1 [04:23] apt-upgrade still running, will still try after fiished, regardless [04:24] yeah, I have 0.14daily13.06.15-0ubuntu1 installed on saucy [04:26] what Ubuntu release are you on? [04:27] * mhall119 is betting Quantal [04:29] I am running 12.10 [04:29] same error after upgrade === 92AAAUIMO is now known as RAOF [04:29] yup, quantal, for some reason the phablet-tools PPA doesn't have the latest package for quantal [04:29] https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/tools/+packages [04:30] best to ask when Europe gets started for the day, someone should be able to get the latest package built for Quantal [04:30] Perhaps upgrading to 13.04 would do as well? [04:30] it would, make sure you re-enable the PPA [04:31] Will try that, thanks for help so far. Much appreciated, [05:26] zsombi, is the time more convenient for you? [05:26] tvoss: yes, excellent! sorry, yesterday my network went off and couldn't get it back [05:27] zsombi, no worries [05:28] tvoss: (I have dentist @ 4:45 UTC+3 :/) [05:28] zsombi, fun ... not :) [05:28] tvoss: :D === LarrySteeze_ is now known as LarrySteeze === w00t is now known as Guest17765 [06:21] Help installing touch to Nexus 10 would be appreciated [06:21] I am getting HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 2013-06-18 23:19:32 ERROR 404: Not Found. Error while downloading, ensure connection [06:22] after running phablet-flash -b [06:35] fyi I got it to work with: phablet-flash -b -r raring/monthly-06 [06:36] good morning [07:28] oSoMoN: hey! [07:28] oSoMoN: on https://code.launchpad.net/~robru/webbrowser-app/assets-under-usr-share/+merge/168813, it's not "just" a lintian warning, it shows things we are normally not doing [07:29] oSoMoN: like shipping arch independant files in multiple packages [07:29] so we are duplicating the icons between all archs [07:29] didrocks: I understand that, but fixing it would require important changes in the code [07:29] and that eat mirror disk space [07:29] oSoMoN: how about that: [07:29] didrocks: ah, good point, I didn’t think of that [07:29] - having all asset in an arch: all package under /usr/share [07:29] - using symlinks in the arch-dependant path under /usr/lib/ ? [07:30] that should avoid the extra complexity [07:30] and will enable to have something cleaner (we need that for all apps) [07:30] didrocks: that’s an option indeed, would you mind writing it in the MR for the record? I won’t have time to get to it before I leave on holidays tonight [07:31] oSoMoN: no hurry anyway, but yeah, let's think about it. I think that may be an option, we need to come with a solution which we can integrate easily for all QML apps [07:31] as I think it's not an isolated case and won't be in the future for sure :) [07:31] didrocks: agreed [07:31] oSoMoN: ok, copying/pasting that discussion, thanks! [07:33] enjoy your holidays as well :) [07:34] thanks, will do for sure :) [07:35] heh :) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|afk === alan_g|afk is now known as alan_g [09:24] Good morning all - have a happy, relaxed World Sauntering Day. :) === ckpringle_ is now known as ckpringle [09:38] hmm, phablet-flash --list-revisions only shows quantal and raring for me [09:44] Hey guys . i am having trouble installing ubuntu phone on my nexus 4 === JamesTai2 is now known as JamesTait [09:47] it says : Resolving cdimage.ubuntu.com (cdimage.ubuntu.com)... 91.189.92.174, 2001:67c:1360:8c01::1f, 2001:67c:1360:8c01::20, ... Connecting to cdimage.ubuntu.com (cdimage.ubuntu.com)|91.189.92.174|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 2013-06-19 10:34:31 ERROR 404: Not Found. Error while downloading, ensure connection when i try install it [09:48] popey: diet for you, no saucy :) === b0bben_ is now known as b0bben [09:53] webcommander: can you pastebin the full output of you running whatever command? [09:54] phablet-flash -b Device detected as mako Download set to http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview//daily-preinstalled/current Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com Starting new HTTP connection (1): cdimage.ubuntu.com Download directory set to /home/domantas/Downloads/phablet-flash/saucy-17 Retrieving files Downloading http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview//daily-preinstalled/current/raring-pr [09:54] didrocks: wise! got some exercise last night walking round my local town turning it from blue to green though ☻ [09:54] webcommander: paste.ubuntu.com [09:54] please paste there [09:55] i pasted it [09:55] (then give us the urle) [09:55] -e [09:55] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5779958/ [09:55] thanks [09:56] webcommander: you should probably update your phablet-tools package, you're getting raring files when you should be getting saucy [09:56] webcommander: 0.14daily13.06.12.1-0ubuntu1 is the version of phablet-tools I'm running here and it works fine [09:57] apt-cache policy phablet-tools [09:57] will tell you what version you have [09:57] Installed: 0.14daily13.05.29ubuntu.unity.next-0ubuntu1 [09:57] ye olde [09:57] what do i type to update my phablet-tools [09:57] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [09:58] doing it [09:58] popey: ahah! it's more difficult while biking though :) [09:59] hah [10:02] did not update [10:02] webcommander: how did you install phablet-tools? You should have a PPA enabled for it [10:03] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [10:03] no, how did you originally install phablet-tools? [10:03] ~$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:phablet-team/tools [10:04] can you pastebin the entire output of "apt-cache policy phablet-tools" please? [10:05] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5779990/ [10:05] ahh, you're running quantal? [10:05] ye [10:06] looks like the phablet-tools package hasn't been updated for 12.10 (quantal). Not sure whether that was a deliberate decision or not [10:07] ok so i have to instal ubuntu 13.04 [10:07] will ask the developers when they awake in a few hours [10:07] thats _one_ option [10:07] but probably not the only option [10:07] you may be able to get away with just grabbing the raring phablet-tools deb package from the ppa and install that on 12.10 [10:07] worth a go ☻ [10:07] thanks, i will try that and come back later if it does not work [10:19] sergiusens: do u have a phablet-tools ppa/branch to try the flipped image? [10:20] grrr [10:21] asac, i think sergiusens is on vac. until friday [10:28] hey oSoMoN anyidea why the browser doesn't pick the ubuntu light font ? is it a bug ? [10:35] daker: no idea why, but there is a bug report to track the issue [10:36] daker: https://bugs.launchpad.net/webbrowser-app/+bug/1186372 [10:36] Launchpad bug 1186372 in webbrowser-app "Browser doesn't load local Ubuntu Light font" [Medium,Confirmed] [10:52] If I install the ubuntu touch now and have no problem if some apps crash sometimes, would my phone be usable in terms of contacts,sms, calls..etc or just for testing purpose? Is it just like ubuntu beta in PC. How about the playstore apps can install them [10:52] We are not getting latest versions of some apps in the latest images... [10:53] phone-app is a week behind with its updates [10:53] and how about the first part of the question [10:54] Will my phone be usable but with some crashes which is ok with me [10:59] Asad2005: It depends on the mobile device you have. [10:59] Asad2005: on the nexus 4, the contacts, sms, calls, wifi, 3G are working. [11:00] ok thanks its nexus 4 [11:01] Asad2005: then you are good to go :-) [11:05] tvoss, mhr3, about X-Ubuntu-Touch in the .desktop file - is the intended meaning "This is an application like any other that is also compatible with Touch", or "This is an application like any other that is enhanced for Touch", or "This is an application that is specifically targeted at Touch (i.e. has a touch interface hardware requirement) and not useful elsewhere"? [11:05] How do i confirm this 'adb devices' should not show the device as 'offline' [11:06] i issued adb devices and it gave me a number then device [11:06] does that mean its ok on line [11:08] JamesTait, i'd say "This is an application like any other that is also compatible with Touch" [11:09] Asad2005: if "adb devices" shows a serial number then "device" then it's all good [11:10] mhr3, OK. So is it fair to say that if an application doesn't have that property, or the property is present and set to false, that the app is not suitable for Touch-based devices? [11:11] JamesTait, that was the idea yes, only apps with that will category be presented on the device [11:12] mhr3, perfect, thanks! === dandrader is now known as dandrader|afk === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:17] bzoltan: sdk talk ok here? or prefer other channel? [11:18] asac: sure it is good here [11:18] have troubles getting simple touch app with c++ backend to work. just used the wizard, but cant run it [11:18] sounds familiar? [11:19] asac: yes it does [11:19] asac: are you on raring? [11:19] ok... so not ready yet? saw that the other qt quick examples use a main.cpp [11:19] no ...saucy [11:20] asac: on saucy we are weak === jppiiroinen is now known as jppiiroinen|afk [11:21] bzoltan: why? [11:21] asac: I just made the new QtC build for saucy -> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/experimental/+build/4727156 [11:21] so i should grab that? [11:21] asac: because we support 4 releases with tools and libs [11:21] asac: yes, please [11:21] ok. who is working with you on automating that? [11:22] should i enable that ppa? [11:22] or just install the debs? [11:22] asac: i would not.. that is just a sendbox I use [11:22] asac: just install the debs [11:23] asac: qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu and qtcreator [11:23] bzoltan: ok... now the simple UI with C++ backend doesnt exist ... just extension library [11:23] asac: i assume you are done with this-> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper && sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk [11:24] is there a qml test app possible in that too or do i need two projects now? [11:24] asac: we do not suggest/support hybrid QML/Qt application model [11:24] hmm. would really like to have one thing [11:24] because thats how i would develop apps that need something new [11:25] rememeber that for stuff that isnt in our platform we will tell people that they have to punch that into their click package [11:25] asac: we would like to keep the C++backends and the QML apps separate [11:25] so the development model of doing the libs separately is only interesting for ... maybe platform people, but not really app devs [11:25] bzoltan: who is we? [11:25] we as Ubuntu and we as canonical [11:25] that doesnt match my mental model [11:26] as i said... if you are an app dev you want one project ... one shot [11:26] no questions asked [11:26] thats our primary audience :) [11:26] or am i wrong? :-P [11:26] asac: yes, if you are an app developer then do the apps in QML/JS [11:26] not really. [11:26] i want to develop an app and need C++ for that :) [11:26] if you need something more.. .you can use all the QML plugins available on the platform [11:27] and lots of people will [11:27] if you do, you rather want to write a QML C++ backend for your QML/js app [11:27] asac: hard to explain ... it is a long story. Are you OK for a quick hangout [11:27] ogra_: but i will not ship it separately [11:27] because we have no means to ship libs separately [11:28] we have a) in platform by us ... or b) as part of the app package ... [11:28] asac, no, it will be shipped in the platform api after you submitted it [11:28] sigh [11:28] a) either its in platform [11:28] b) or you have to put it in your app package [11:28] (i'm not necessarily agreeing, but i understan the plan behind it) [11:29] b should not happen [11:29] in the current world order [11:29] well, you have to be pragmatic [11:29] platform api will be super stable [11:29] adding stuff will be wrangling since we will maintain it forever [11:29] but will get added features over time === dandrader|afk is now known as dandrader [11:29] as long as thhey dont break existing ones [11:29] so in order to keep innovation high, its inevitablethat you need b) [11:30] you need b as a developer who hacks around stuff [11:30] whatever yhou do, platform api will not meet the needs for a whole bunch of cool innovative apps that could be built [11:30] asac: the bottom line is that Ubuntu Touch app development is QML/JS or HTML5 ... if you need C++, you will make QML plugins, packages and distributed separately [11:30] you will not have b in a stable release, either of the app or the platform [11:31] (as i said, i'm not necessarily agreeing, but that is how it is designed today and how it was communicated to devs from day one ... i didnt see anyone scream up about it yet) [11:32] who is the messenger? [11:32] the seed of this message? [11:32] everyone related to app development [11:32] I need to talk to him :-P [11:32] ok so pat :) [11:32] not sure when or how it was decided to go that route === hikiko is now known as hikiko|lunch [11:32] i dont think it was ... i think something was decided that morphed into the interpretation that we hear here now :) [11:33] asac: it was [11:33] asac: I was and am on this topic very much. You can run it with Pat or Richard. [11:33] i can accept that we said we don't support this for 13.10... i can't accept that we said that our sdk will not support those that need a C++ backend for their qml app [11:34] for the full story :) [11:34] but well... i will catch up on that topic [11:34] asac: we can revisit the decision of course.. i am not religious :) but it was decided after considering all other options and consequences [11:34] nobody said you are not able to write C++ [11:34] personally, i believe it is not that difficult and very benefitical [11:34] so lets see, lets see [11:34] bzoltan: yeah [11:34] all good [11:34] asac: we _DO_ suppport C++ backends [11:34] the point is that if you add a C++ module it should be in a way that all benefit from it [11:35] tweaked build/* to use system-wide toolchain if available, slowly progressing with gcc-4.8 build of grouper. [11:35] so going back on topic... now if i want to build my own backend to be used by my qml app [11:35] asac: but we want developers to write QML apps and not C++ apps with QML UI [11:35] do i create two projects? [11:35] so you shoouldnt ship it in your app but submit it to the platform api [11:35] and can make them depend on each other? [11:35] and fixing failures as it goes along.... [11:35] asac: Yes, you create a backend project and an app project [11:35] * ogra_ is curious if anything will work at all after xnox is done :) [11:36] gcc 4.8 sounds so scary :) [11:36] bzoltan: and it will just build all in one shot? [11:36] and i can express dependencies? [11:36] asac: That is the beauty ... you do notbuild the QML/JS app [11:36] no dependencies in click packages :) [11:37] (except on the API) [11:37] i have just installed ubuntu touch nexus 4 and having network error how do i set up network [11:37] asac: True and important that we have absolutely no concept about the intake of the plugins... [11:38] Asad2005: I would open the QtCreator and clone the network of my PC to the device [11:38] Asad2005, saucy ? there are some bugs ... but using phablet-network-setup from your PC and a reboot should work [11:38] with device connected to pc? [11:39] yes [11:39] phablet-network-setup copies the working wlan connection data from your PC over [11:39] bzoltan: maybe we could include an example qml file in the extension library template? [11:39] would help me to get over the first line :) [11:40] i dont have wifi in my pc only wired [11:40] ogra_: i dont have wifi in my pc only wired [11:41] yeah, thats tricky then i think [11:41] From the phone how do i get to the setting app [11:41] asac: We can do that... What I do is to create the plugin project.. make a .deb and install it on the phablet/pc and just use it from the app project. ... 3-4 clicks [11:42] settings are only acceessible from the top panel ... if you tap on the clock entry the settings panel opens [11:42] bzoltan: so mything catches the type "mynew1" ... but i cannot import mynew1 0.1 [11:43] bzoltan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5780190/ [11:43] ogra_: heh, well as linus says """ "gression testing"? What's that? If it compiles, it is good; if it boots up, it is perfect.""" [11:44] Ok i got it, howdo i now setup my gmail and contact sync [11:44] xnox, haha [11:44] bah ... i give up for now. i can't even build this extension library project... only the individual files in the UI :) [11:45] asac: doesn't the terminal app from core-apps, have VT c++ module with QML wrapper around it? [11:45] is that developed in qtcreator? [11:45] wanted to figure the qtcreator experience as well [11:46] Asad2005, http://sergiusens.github.io/posts/google-contacts-on-ubuntu-touch.html [11:46] xnox: where do i find the source? [11:46] asac: lp:ubuntu-terminal-app [11:47] coolio [11:47] it is preinstalled [11:47] open the hud in the app lens and search for term [11:47] xnox: i think that doesnt have a qtcreator thing included [11:47] well... maybe i shouldn't use our IDE :) [11:47] lol [11:48] well, i hoped for nice syntax and auto expansion support :) [11:48] oh wait [11:48] asac: also it looks like the plugin is separate in lp:ubuntu-terminal-app/plugin sigh [11:49] no ... that doesnt really help i think [11:49] yeah ... hell. i just a one shot experience :) [11:55] asac: sorry, my env is messed since I am doing and testingth enew release of the QtC ... [11:56] no prob [11:56] bzoltan: so i found my libUbuntuExample.so finally :) ... [11:56] ../build-mycppapp-Desktop-Debug/backend [11:56] how can i add that to the qtcreator project as something to consider? LD_LIBRARY_PATH? === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [11:57] asac: in the qmlproject file there is "importPaths" [11:57] hi netcurli ... let me check [11:58] IS there a how to for using the phone, home button, back button ....etc [11:58] netcurli: is that also in the UI somewhere? [11:59] netcurli: ok ... d i just put the path there? [12:00] Asad2005, not yet, there will be a tour later [12:00] I think you have to put the path to the directory above where the .so file is [12:00] Asad2005, essentially all the edges and swiping is how you use it [12:00] there are no actual buttons needed [12:01] what about unlocking the screen and how do i install apps from playstore [12:01] * asac can't find the importpath feature in the UI for projects in qtcreator [12:07] asac: in your project double click on .qmlproject file, it has importPaths setting. [12:07] so it's part of the source.... === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [12:12] Do i need to install qtcreator in my PC? [12:13] if you want to develop apps === hikiko|lunch is now known as hikiko [12:16] ogra_: I want to install apps from playstore [12:16] you cant run android apps on ubuntu touch [12:24] ogra_: adb reboot-bootloader: command not found [12:24] Asad2005: adb reboot bootloader [12:24] no dash [12:24] this was from the install wiki [12:25] ogra_: same it did not work [12:26] ogra_: can i reboot device by vol up/down and power to accomplish this [12:27] stgraber, looking through your code, i would very much like to get rid of /tmpmnt ... i wonder if we could do that with clever re-ordeing (mount /data and move it to $rootfs later or so) [12:27] ogra_: so grouper build has finished. And I have a few *.img and *.zip. So can I just replace "raring-preinstalled-armle+grouper.zip" with my "cm-10.1-20130619-UNOFFICIAL-grouper.zip" ? [12:28] Asad2005, well, that it doesnt work is a bit weird, did you use phablet-flash to install ? [12:28] ogra_: yes [12:28] xnox, yes, but you need to flash the armhf zip too afterwards, so it picks up the android initrd from /system/boot/ [12:29] Yes i want to restore android [12:29] xnox, alternatively, flash, boot into recovery and cp -a /system/boot/* /data/ubuntu/boot/ [12:29] ogra_: so I flash the one I built.zip and then flash raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip on top ? [12:29] before doing the first boot ... [12:30] right, either that or copy th eandroid ramdisk manually for the container [12:30] it picks it up from /boot on startup (which translates physically to /data/ubuntu/boot) [12:30] ogra_: I dont get it, i have installed as per the wiki step 1 to 4 [12:31] Asad2005: which wiki page? [12:31] Asad2005, right, if you do adb shell, does it say @android in the shell prompt ? [12:31] Now at the end of thewiki it says restore android and i am following that but getting that error [12:31] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install [12:32] yes [12:32] Asad2005, you can always reboot holing the vol keys to get to bootloader, but to prevent others from having these problems it would be helpful to know why it is broken [12:33] (especially since it seems to work for others) [12:33] is the adb shell running as root ? === jhodapp is now known as jhodapp|brb [12:33] (does it say shell@ or root@ in the prompt ?) [12:33] ok i have extracted the archieve of original image and cd into that folder then run that command [12:33] yes root@android [12:34] hmm, then the reboot bootloader should just work [12:34] do i need to issue that command after adb shell [12:34] it should just work without being in the shell [12:34] but adb needs to be runnng as root first [12:34] or from my pc terminal [12:35] ok i will try as root [12:35] from your PC terminal indeed, with the device attached and after "adb root" === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [12:35] else you would be just the shell user, and that does not have the privileges to issue a reboot [12:36] ok it worked as root [12:36] thanks [12:37] good, phew, so nothing is broken :) [12:37] ogra_: one more question, the original image i have downloaded is .tgz not zip format is that ok [12:38] no [12:38] oh wait, you mean the android image === dandrader is now known as dandrader|lunch [12:38] yeah, thats ok [12:38] yes [12:42] how does one install apps on ubuntu touch [12:42] webcommander: we have a couple of PPAs with some apps in [12:43] webcommander: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~popey/+junk/phablet-flash-wrapper/view/head:/add_apps.sh [12:43] that script, run on your laptop/desktop will install some [12:43] ogra_: my "bootsplash" looks like "A N D R O I D _" is that normal? [12:44] heh, not really, but the groouper kernel is screwed up wrt fbcon [12:45] just ignore the screen :) it should hopefully go away with the next kernel upload [12:46] ogra_: yeah, I think i am stuck in a reboot loop and it throws me into recovery. === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:46] xnox, adb shell in recovery ... [12:46] then cat /proc/last_kmsg [12:46] that gives you the boot log from last failed boot [12:47] (dmesg and all console output) [12:47] oh, wait [12:48] xnox, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.bootimg-grouper dd that into the LNX partition and try again [12:48] your system zip might include the wrong boot.img === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [12:49] ogra_: download that, adb push, and then from adb shell, dd that into where? [12:49] find /dev -name LNX [12:50] ogra_: ack. one moment. [12:50] likely somewhere under /dev/block/foo/bar/by-name [12:50] yeah found it. === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:51] hmm, every time Nexus 4 shut down its screen, ssh stops working. I assume it's some autosuspend feature - any way to avoid that? [12:52] just annoying having to press the power button all the time :-) [12:52] ogra_: seeing loads of boot messages, and at init-bottom it gets stuck and reboots again. =/ [12:53] diwic, use adb in parallel, that prevents suspend [12:53] xnox, can you pastebin the last_kmsg output ? [12:53] ogra_: i was hoping to build something for raring / phablet-preview images. instead of saucy. as at least i know that [12:53] i tryed to run the script throught terminal but it just opened it [12:54] adb shell cat /proc/last_kmsg | pastebinit [12:54] ogra_, thanks [12:54] webcommander: how did you try to run the script? [12:54] xnox, oh === jhodapp|brb is now known as jhodapp [12:54] xnox,, well, then using the flipped bootimg will indeed not work [12:54] ./add_apps.sh [12:54] webcommander: at that point (assuming your phone is connected via usb) it should connect and start doing stuff [12:55] xnox, but that also means that you have to do all debugging from android instead of ubuntu [12:55] can you paste the output from the terminal into http://paste.ubuntu.com and give me the url? [12:55] ogra_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5780352/ === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [12:56] xnox, looks good, i bet it would work with a flipped saucy image (at least to the point that you can adb into the ubuntu rootfs ... and debug the android container [12:56] ) [12:56] unflipped raring is a different beast since that first boots you into android [12:57] . [12:57] asac: with the backend project in the qtc you just hit a bug ... i fixed it. you can build the backend on the device but you need to fix a script like this https://code.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/ubuntu-qtcreator-plugins/fix_packaging/+merge/170314 on your env in order to make it work [12:58] ogra_: ok, let me look into installing flipped saucy (normal) and check if that works on my nexus7 and then try fiddling with it to use these .img files. [12:58] bzoltan: cool. when will this land? [12:58] so i can try the deb? [12:58] xnox, right [12:59] asac: tomorrow [12:59] the last flipped saucy will work on the n7 but be a bit noisy on the screen on boot [12:59] bzoltan: thx [12:59]