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* paultag o.O00:00
skellatThe thing to ponder as we continue June is reaching out to others who may be out of reach or who we might not have heard from recently such as jandrusk00:00
skellatFolks who have cut all electronic communications ties should still be made welcome and should be encouraged to re-engage00:01
skellatThough I do seem to trigger plenty of deactivations every time I send a "Contact Team" e-mail :-\00:02
Unit193Yeah, that one is a bit more annoying than something on the mailing list.00:02
skellatYeah00:02
skellatSomehow we have 420+ members and that's the only way to reach all of them00:03
skellatFrom my end in Ashtabula all I can do is cajole, suggest, prod, and ask to welcome others around the state and ask why they've disengaged00:03
skellatI'm not prepared to go as far as Jono Bacon and post my cell phone number openly for people to call to talk to00:04
skellatBut00:04
skellatI am fairly reachable00:04
skellatAnd if you need second-tier/back-end help reaching out to others I'll do what I can00:04
skellatDo we have any other discussion for Item #300:05
skellat?00:05
skellatNothing being heard, we move on to Item #4 -- Any Other Business where we start off with that phone call I had with Jono Bacon earlier today00:06
skellatJono and I talked about the Ars Technica article I linked at the beginning of the meeting where the Carrier Advisory Group was announced for the Ubuntu Phone project00:06
skellatSome folks noted on Google Plus that US carriers were conspicuously absent00:07
skellatFor the time being, nothing is blocking them from joining if they choose on their own initiative00:07
skellatAt this stage in the development of Ubuntu Phone, it looks like what will be ready by October will class more as a "Feature Phone" instead of a "Smartphone" in terms of what will ship.  This is akin to having something ship with Symbian S40 instead of iOS.00:08
skellatThe approach being taken is to pursue "emerging markets" in lieu of trying to start in the United States.00:09
skellatFrom a business perspective, it makes far more sense to pursue markets other than the United States and Canada first.00:09
skellatEssentially, based upon my experience selling wireless devices, it should be remembered that nobody else on this planet we share sells cell phones the way we do in the United States and Canada00:09
skellatThe way we do it is a distinctly minority business model compared to the planet at-large.  Heck, GSM is the dominant global standard while CDMA is something peculiar to the US & Canada as well as 31 smaller jurisdictions.00:10
skellatSo, at the macro level...the time has not come yet for us to see consumer-level roll out of Ubuntu Phone in the US00:11
skellatIt is coming00:11
skellatBut it isn't our time yet00:11
skellatOkay, that sums up my discussion with Jono.  What do you all think?00:11
skellatGoing once...00:13
drkokandynot surprising that it's not coming to the US first00:13
jrgiffordskellat: unrelated note going back to the previous item: if you want a SIP line that acts like a phone, I can get you one easily enough.00:15
skellatjrgifford: Not yet00:15
jrgiffordskellat: its like, $5/month. Just let me know. :)00:15
skellatAs I said to Mr. Bacon when we talked earlier, I'm willing to wait to pay for a phone.  If a GSM version is ready for the US market I may just bypass a subsidy contract and try to buy one outright.00:16
skellatOkay.  Is there any other discussion on the Ubuntu Phone item?  Is there any other business to come before the meeting tonight?00:17
Unit193I'm not interested in it at all, I don't have an electric slave driver right now, but Android or Mozilla look more interesting right now anyway.00:17
jrgiffordI've played with the phone preview on my nexus 7.00:17
jrgiffordHaven't tried on the phone, I rely on it too much.00:18
jrgiffordOverall, it needs work, but its not bad.00:18
jrgiffordBattery life is much better, at least on the tablet00:18
skellatI had an HTC Thunderbolt for 30 days and dumped Android plus the phone as I just got annoyed with it.  The touch screen really annoyed me.  My aunt's iPhone has an easier touch screen to use.00:19
jrgiffordProbably because it doesn't have push notifications yet.00:19
skellatPerhaps00:20
skellatIs there any other business to come before the meeting tonight?00:20
jrgiffordAnyway, that's what I've got on the subject.00:20
jrgiffordNone here00:21
skellatItem #5 -- Fix The Date For The Next Meeting.  What is our pleasure for a date in July to hold our next meeting?00:21
skellatMy calendar remains clear since I remain unemployed and one layer or another of the Department of Job & Family Services has blocked my attempt at going back to school.  I could have started in a master's program with Ashland but that is blocked at this time.00:23
skellatFour weeks from today will put us at July 16th00:24
jrgiffordI've got the third week of July booked period, but other than that I can do what ever00:24
jrgiffordThe 16th looks good00:24
skellatUnit193, drkokandy: How say you?00:24
drkokandyI might be a little distracted, but I can be here00:25
skellatOkay00:25
Unit193We'll see.00:25
skellatI'll mark it as tentative and send out a Doodle poll when we get closer.00:26
skellatItem #6 -- Potpourri00:26
skellatBad weather happens at this time of year00:26
skellatCleveland-area television went wall-to-wall with tornado coverage not that long ago00:26
skellatIf you're interested in watching Ohio weather warnings and alerts you can join ##weather-us-oh to see such on IRC00:27
skellatNOAA Weather Radio is a nice non-Internet way to keep track of such too: http://www.nws.noaa.gov/nwr/00:27
jenni[ NOAA Weather Radio ] - http://j.mp/12TYwfw00:27
skellatAnd there is a FAQ about that taxpayer-paid service: http://www.nws.noaa.gov/nwr/faq.htm00:27
jenni[ NOAA Weather Radio ] - http://j.mp/12TYxjD00:27
skellatFEMA has a guide up with disaster assistance materials specifically for Ohio: http://www.fema.gov/states/ohio00:28
jenni[ Ohio | FEMA.gov ] - http://j.mp/12TYB2O00:28
skellatThere is the citizen's awareness to disaster assistance course that you can pursue at your own pace: http://training.fema.gov/EMIWeb/IS/courseOverview.aspx?code=IS-700:28
jenni[ IS-7: A Citizen's Guide to Disaster Assistance | FEMA - Emergency Management Institute (EMI) Course ] - http://j.mp/12TYCUl00:28
skellatAnd we're looking at Lightning Awareness Week coming up next week here in the state of Ohio: http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/severeweather/severewxcal.shtml00:29
jenni[ Severe Weather Events Calendar ] - http://j.mp/12TYEf400:29
skellatArs Technica had a recent story about one of their editors being struck by lightning00:29
skellatIt did bad things to him00:29
skellatImagine what it can do to your computer00:29
skellatAnd remember, lightning damage is OS-agnostic00:29
Unit193That's why I took mine off the roof!00:29
skellat:-)00:29
paultagskellat: twice, actually!00:30
skellatThank you for attending the June 2013 Business Meeting.  The log will be posted later tonight to the wiki and announced not only on the mailing list but also Planet Ubuntu.00:30
skellatThank you guys!00:30
* skellat realizes he blew way past his original time estimate but kept it within an hour00:31
Unit193drkokandy: Have you been wanting to do something locally?00:32
drkokandyhmm, we could if you're interested in trying to put something together00:34
drkokandywould you be thinking about another Ubuntu Hour type event or something different?00:34
Unit193Well, was wondering if you were itching for one, I was and am the least social of us. :P00:34
drkokandyso if it ends up being just the two of us it would be a pretty quiet event I guess. I don't know that I'd say I'm itching for one - I've been busier than usual this summer00:36
drkokandyBut if you00:37
drkokandy* you're itching for something like that, just let me know what nights work for you and I should be able to reorganize things to swing down to Mansfield/Ontario for an Ubuntu Hour thing00:39
Unit193Heh, fun.  Yep, would be nice and awkwardly silent. :D00:41
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