| Unit193 | pleia2: Technically compressed is fine, lossey isn't. | 07:40 |
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| knome | ochosi, pursue | 09:24 |
| ochosi | knome: ok good, so we need to contact all the authors of those pics i guess | 09:50 |
| knome | yup | 09:50 |
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| * rowboatnick appears | 17:59 | |
| rowboatnick | anyone here for the meeting | 19:04 |
| rowboatnick | ?* | 19:04 |
| elfy | 2 ticks | 19:04 |
| lderan | yup | 19:04 |
| rowboatnick | I dont really know much about the meeting bot | 19:05 |
| pleia2 | once you #startmeeting it will tell you lots of commands | 19:05 |
| rowboatnick | okay | 19:05 |
| pleia2 | and you can always add more chairs to help you with #chair elfy | 19:06 |
| pleia2 | etc | 19:06 |
| rowboatnick | okay cool, lets get this going :) | 19:06 |
| rowboatnick | #startmeeting | 19:06 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Wed Jun 19 19:06:30 2013 UTC. The chair is rowboatnick. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 19:06 |
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| rowboatnick | #chair elfy | 19:06 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: elfy rowboatnick | 19:06 |
| elfy | back - sorry bout that | 19:06 |
| rowboatnick | hehe | 19:06 |
| pleia2 | you snooze, you become a chair | 19:07 |
| lderan | its the law of the land | 19:07 |
| elfy | so - shall I kick it off then | 19:07 |
| rowboatnick | So. Anyone have any specifics they want to discuss? I have a smaller list of things | 19:07 |
| rowboatnick | Do that | 19:07 |
| elfy | k - I was chatting to balloons in the qa channel - trying to get a handle on whether it's going to be much use to us before we spend a lot of time | 19:08 |
| elfy | and we can probably make it easier to do some of the more basic tests - but whether we'll find it's a good use of our time I'm not so sure | 19:09 |
| elfy | we're never going to be able to do advanced testing - so that's going to be manual it seems | 19:10 |
| rowboatnick | How come? | 19:10 |
| elfy | perhaps some install tests - they are being worked on | 19:10 |
| elfy | issues with gtk I think rowboatnick | 19:10 |
| rowboatnick | An automated installer/test would be great :P | 19:10 |
| rowboatnick | Oh | 19:11 |
| lderan | that it would | 19:11 |
| elfy | <balloons> ahh.. well, gtk apps are a little notorious, but we have a branch of working testcases we've done for the ubuntu desktop apps | 19:11 |
| elfy | <balloons> for you guys, I think the automating installer work is your best bang for the buck at the moment | 19:11 |
| elfy | basically those two quotes sum up what I got from the chat with him :) | 19:11 |
| elfy | BUT | 19:11 |
| lderan | ah okay | 19:11 |
| elfy | given how many people we tend to have testing - how many are likely to have machines they can let an automatic test loose on? | 19:12 |
| elfy | I know I haven't | 19:12 |
| rowboatnick | I would probably use it for a VM | 19:12 |
| lderan | do we know the percentage of testing done on VMs? | 19:12 |
| rowboatnick | We did have testers fill in their equippment prior | 19:13 |
| rowboatnick | Im not sure where that data has gone, or if its updated | 19:13 |
| elfy | lderan: I don't know - my next thing to dig at is how to drag stats from the reports the tracker produces | 19:13 |
| elfy | rowboatnick: agreed - I could do so with VM's | 19:13 |
| rowboatnick | So automated tests are low priority, in general? | 19:14 |
| elfy | apparently someone is working on these installer tests | 19:14 |
| elfy | rowboatnick: I think that if people 'ubuntu' orientated are looking at those - let them | 19:15 |
| elfy | our time would be better used in doing basic app tests I'd think for the future | 19:15 |
| rowboatnick | We have a lot of unique software tho | 19:15 |
| elfy | ^^ | 19:15 |
| rowboatnick | But yes, I do see the point | 19:16 |
| elfy | I'd rather have autotest to do abiword/gnumeric etc | 19:16 |
| elfy | install is install | 19:16 |
| lderan | agreed, basic testing is best way | 19:16 |
| elfy | that's my thinking - I'm looking at trying to have things there for the LTS | 19:16 |
| elfy | don't know what you're thoughts are | 19:17 |
| rowboatnick | My thoughts were, I suppose, try to get people on writing core function test cases, and like you said before, elaborate them later | 19:18 |
| elfy | this is the crux of my problem with it - how many people do we have :) | 19:19 |
| elfy | as far as I know there are you and lderan | 19:19 |
| elfy | at least looking at our things | 19:20 |
| rowboatnick | But its kinda low hanging fruit too. One can simply write and suggest a testcase, so those people mailing the list relatively frequently could perhaps be pointed in that direction | 19:20 |
| elfy | yep | 19:21 |
| elfy | how about if we try and at least get some sort of list together and get bugs done for them - something to point people towards | 19:22 |
| rowboatnick | Btw, how bad is it, tester wise, are there any non-irc people doing them+ | 19:22 |
| elfy | I know of a few | 19:23 |
| elfy | I think we'll have a better idea when alpha1 is out for a week | 19:23 |
| rowboatnick | Yes it sounds like a plan | 19:23 |
| lderan | yeah list idea sounds good | 19:23 |
| elfy | the manual stuff is working well like that - getting picked off one by one | 19:23 |
| elfy | ok - so I'll get a list together - we can brainstorm some sort of priority for it then do some bugs and set importance | 19:24 |
| rowboatnick | okay | 19:24 |
| lderan | okay | 19:24 |
| elfy | so that's the general part sorted for the moment - plan A | 19:25 |
| elfy | I can co-ordinate this - but the specifics are beyond me - I'm no coder | 19:26 |
| elfy | so if I can look to you both to help that'll be great | 19:26 |
| rowboatnick | sure | 19:26 |
| lderan | aye will do all that i can | 19:26 |
| elfy | thanks :) | 19:27 |
| elfy | so - rowboatnick you had some specifics? | 19:27 |
| rowboatnick | Yes, but we basically covered them, i had some points about; which apps are critical to test? contributors, core features and state of the install of autopilot | 19:28 |
| rowboatnick | (typing with 1 finger, so its a bit slow ;)) | 19:29 |
| rowboatnick | So, yes, I dont really have anything to add I suppose | 19:30 |
| elfy | ok - lderan ? | 19:31 |
| lderan | all stuff covered for me | 19:31 |
| elfy | #action elfy create list of apps for autopilot for prioritisation | 19:32 |
| meetingology | ACTION: elfy create list of apps for autopilot for prioritisation | 19:32 |
| elfy | #action elfy set up bugs for required autopilot tests | 19:32 |
| meetingology | ACTION: elfy set up bugs for required autopilot tests | 19:32 |
| elfy | #idea point people mailing -dev list at a/pilot bugs | 19:33 |
| elfy | rowboatnick lderan - anything else needing action or idea ? | 19:33 |
| rowboatnick | not that i can think of | 19:34 |
| lderan | same | 19:34 |
| elfy | k | 19:34 |
| elfy | thanks then :) | 19:34 |
| rowboatnick | thank you :) | 19:34 |
| lderan | thanks :D | 19:35 |
| elfy | not sure I did much other than get confused by the whole thing earlier :) | 19:35 |
| elfy | #endmeeting | 19:35 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Wed Jun 19 19:35:32 2013 UTC. | 19:35 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2013/xubuntu-devel.2013-06-19-19.06.moin.txt | 19:35 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2013/xubuntu-devel.2013-06-19-19.06.html | 19:35 |
| elfy | d'oh | 19:35 |
| lderan | what's up? | 19:36 |
| elfy | should have put noscjak's name against the actions :p | 19:36 |
| lderan | ah | 19:36 |
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| Noskcaj | What package are the indicators at the logon screen from? | 21:29 |
| Noskcaj | there's a graphical glitch in 13.10 | 21:30 |
| ochosi | Noskcaj: screenshot plz | 21:30 |
| ochosi | (if you refer to the session-menu and the language menu, then those aren't ubuntu indicators, but normal menus that are part of the greeter) | 21:31 |
| Noskcaj | ochosi, http://imgur.com/6GawhHD | 21:34 |
| Noskcaj | top right corner | 21:34 |
| ochosi | Noskcaj: right, the fix is in Greybird already, could you try it from git? | 21:35 |
| Noskcaj | how do i do that? | 21:35 |
| ochosi | download here: https://github.com/shimmerproject/Greybird/archive/master.zip | 21:35 |
| ochosi | extract to ~/.themes/ | 21:36 |
| ochosi | (if that dir doesn't exist, just create it) | 21:36 |
| Noskcaj | done | 21:38 |
| ochosi | then logout again and check whether it's fixed | 21:39 |
| Noskcaj | it's not. | 21:39 |
| Noskcaj | i'll try restarting | 21:39 |
| ochosi | nah, wait a sec | 21:39 |
| ochosi | "ls ~/.themes/" looks like what? | 21:40 |
| ochosi | (the folder inside should be called "Greybird", not something else) | 21:40 |
| Noskcaj | Greybird-master | 21:40 |
| ochosi | right, rename that ;) | 21:41 |
| ochosi | or switch to Greybird-master in the appearance settings | 21:41 |
| ochosi | or actually no, rename it, otherwise you also have to change the lightdm-gtk-greeter config file | 21:41 |
| Noskcaj | done | 21:42 |
| Noskcaj | after logging out then back in a crash report has appeared | 21:42 |
| Noskcaj | and the bug still isn't fixed | 21:43 |
| Noskcaj | i've tried both | 21:44 |
| ochosi | well anyhoo, the new greeter (1.6) will hopefully land in saucy soon and as soon as greybird from git lands there as well, that glitch will be gone | 21:45 |
| ochosi | so nothing to worry about | 21:45 |
| Noskcaj | ok | 21:45 |
| Noskcaj | yay, only 4 bugs this install | 21:45 |
| Noskcaj | 8 is my record this cycle | 21:46 |
| * Noskcaj isn't sure if this is an achievement | 21:46 | |
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