/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/06/20/#kubuntu-devel.txt

yofelRiddell: Breaks: krfb (<< 4:4.10.80-0ubuntu1) doesn't play well with PPA's. Either append ~ so it's -0ubuntu1~, or in this case it's better with just << 4:4.10.8000:27
yofelso,  upgraded to .80 on my netbook, so far so good00:57
ahoneybunhey valorie02:34
valoriehi ahoneybun02:34
valoriehow've you been?02:34
ahoneybunbusy02:35
ahoneybunyou?02:35
valorieafter being away much of the weekend, then off moving back to my newer laptop, I feel a bit out of the loop02:35
valorieI think everything i need is installed/upgraded/backed up02:35
valoriefinally02:35
ahoneybunI would imagine02:35
ahoneybunnice02:36
valorienow i'm trying to make sure everything works, like mumble, hangouts, my new earphones, etc.02:37
ahoneybuncool02:37
ahoneybunmumble?02:37
valorieit's the application we use for voice chat for Kubuntu meetings02:39
valorieyofel has a server02:39
valoriemy son uses the same application for playing World of Warcraft02:39
ahoneybunoh the mumble meetings02:39
ahoneybunvalorie: I asked jono bacon and that ubuntu cert applies to any *ubuntu member02:42
valoriewell, of course02:42
valorieI *AM* an Ubuntu member02:43
ahoneybunyea02:43
valorieany Kubuntu member is02:43
ahoneybunI see now02:43
valorieour standards are just a bit higher02:43
valorieand more specialized02:43
ahoneybunanyway lordievader says he believes that the getting involved page just needs a few fixs on the include part02:44
valorieyes, I read the backlog02:45
valorie:-)02:45
ahoneybunoh yea02:45
ahoneybunlol02:45
valorieand i agree, there is too much in the include02:45
valorieit's repetitive02:46
ahoneybunbut it is the only thing he believes it needs02:47
jonovalorie, standards are higher?02:47
jonohow are they different to normal Ubuntu Membership?02:47
ahoneybunjono: ubuntu members need 6 months02:47
valorieI went through quite the grilling, jono02:47
ahoneybunkubuntu wiki says 2 for kubuntu02:47
valorielol02:47
jonoahoneybun, 6 months for what?02:47
jonovalorie, lol02:47
ahoneybunjono: contribure02:47
jonovalorie, but you made it :-)02:47
ahoneybunto become a member02:47
jonoahoneybun, there is no fixed time02:48
valorieI had 6 months of contributions before asking02:48
valorieat least02:48
ahoneybunjono: min02:48
ahoneybunjono: nice hangout today btw02:49
jonoright, there is no fixed time for contribution02:49
jonojust "significant and sustained :-)02:49
jonoahoneybun, thanks!02:49
jonoI hope they help provide an avenue for people to get their questions asked :-)02:49
ahoneybunjono: also the working ubuntu touch galaxy nexus is the gsm I have the cdma one02:50
ahoneybunno working data, calling, or texting02:50
jonoahoneybun, oh thats a shame02:50
ahoneybunjono: tbh once that works with it I can dump android maybe ;)02:50
jonoahoneybun, :-)02:51
ahoneybunjono: got it on my nexus 7 though02:51
ahoneybuncan't get flash-tools to work though02:51
ahoneybunjono: just had to manually download the images and flash ;)02:54
ahoneybunvalorie: did we talk about that google+ page I made?02:55
valorieI .... joined it or whatever it is one does with that02:56
valoriewhen I saw it in the backlog02:56
ahoneybunvalorie: also did you recently look at the getting involved page?02:56
valorienot for a few days02:57
valorieI'll go through them again02:57
valorietook awhile to get my other laptop backed up and this one up and running again02:57
ahoneybunvalorie: I did make a few changes recently02:58
ahoneybunjust wondering02:58
valoriecool02:58
valorielater one I can look02:58
ahoneybunmoved a few things and removed some others02:58
ahoneybunjono: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs02:58
ahoneybunjono: I like ubuntu touch's minimalist look and that the content the most important03:00
jonoahoneybun, :-)03:00
jonosorry can't chat much now, about to have dinner03:01
ahoneybunjono: np03:01
ahoneybunvalorie: I really want to mark that page and the software one as done03:02
valoriecool03:04
valoriein a bit I'll check it03:05
ahoneybunno rush lol03:05
ahoneybuntime to watch fringe03:05
ScottKLet me know when all of 4.10.4 is up.03:35
Tm_TRiddell: it's quite possible I have rights there yes05:07
ScottKshadeslayer: re the 4.10.4 uploads:05:10
ScottK kde4libs (4:4.10.4-0ubuntu0.1) raring-proposed; urgency=low05:10
ScottK .05:10
ScottK   * Update symbols for libnepomuk405:10
ScottKCan you tell me what's wrong with that for a changelog entry?05:11
ScottKAre the rest crap too?05:11
ScottKMaybe someone can fix and re-upload.05:14
Tm_TRiddell: alas, access on a computer that isn't near me atm /:05:21
Tm_TRiddell: I see you got through, good (:05:26
soeegood morning05:45
yofelScottK: I'm looking. It seems shadeslayer added a second changelog entry to kde4libs which broke the automated upload :S06:43
ScottKyofel: Thanks.  If you can upload soon, I can accept it before I sleep.06:43
yofelScottK: next try up06:51
smartboyhwyofel, hmm I still can't find the patch to fix the SOVERSION of analitza (even when it is committed already)06:52
yofelsmartboyhw: I already added both to bzr, you only need to fix the packaging06:52
smartboyhwyofel, oh great:)06:53
smartboyhwyofel, hmm it still fails.06:56
smartboyhw:O06:56
smartboyhwWith the new patches.06:57
smartboyhw-- DebianABIManager: CMake target 'analitza' SOVERSION does not match package name 'libanalitza5'06:57
smartboyhw-- DebianABIManager: CMake target 'analitzagui' SOVERSION does not match package name 'libanalitzagui5'06:57
smartboyhwSame error.06:57
ScottKyofel: Looking.  Thanks.07:02
ScottKxnox: You're off the hook.  I got impatient and did python-qt4.07:02
ScottKyofel: Accepted.  Thanks.  Please throttle shadeslayer when he appears.07:04
yofelsmartboyhw: yeah, because I only added the patches. control file is still broken07:07
smartboyhwyofel, hmm, I added my version of control file already...07:08
yofelreally? I still have libanalitza4abi2 in bzr07:09
smartboyhwyofel, I am just test-building.07:09
smartboyhwWith my own ver. of control (not in bzr yet)07:09
yofelk, I'm gone for a while. bbl07:10
* smartboyhw is perplexed.07:12
yofel*sigh*07:18
yofelsmartboyhw: apol applied murthy's law...07:18
yofelset(ANALITZA_LIB_VERSION "5")07:18
yofelset(ANALITZA_LIB_SOVERSION "5.0.0")07:18
smartboyhwyofel, uh huh.07:18
yofelswitch that and it's correct07:18
smartboyhwLOL07:18
smartboyhwMeh...07:18
* smartboyhw adds another patch then....07:18
soeei try to find some free time in the summer and get into packaging07:20
smartboyhwsoee, :)07:20
soeedon't laugh, im serious :D07:24
smartboyhwsoee, I mean I'm happy.07:27
smartboyhwNow it finally builds:)07:27
xnoxScottK: I process backlog sequentially, thus I have a reject email about that upload.....07:48
ScottKWell, you said you were going to do it yesterday.07:48
xnoxScottK: yeah, things came up and forgot/didn't do python-qt407:49
Riddellmorning08:02
shadeslayerthrottle? But my internets is already so slow :(08:59
Riddell?09:02
shadeslayer<ScottK> yofel: Accepted.  Thanks.  Please throttle shadeslayer when he appears.09:02
shadeslayeryofel: does the status page show all the split packages?09:07
Riddellshadeslayer: seems to, just the three isn't it?09:08
soeewhat does yellow color means on build list ?09:08
Riddellwarning09:09
shadeslayerwarnings and the like09:09
shadeslayerRiddell: I don't see kget and the likes there?09:09
RiddellI did kget09:09
* Riddell looks09:09
Riddellshadeslayer: it's listed on https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas under kget09:10
Riddellah but you mean the page on yofel'd server09:10
Riddellno I've not added it there yet09:10
shadeslayer^ yep09:10
shadeslayerwut09:11
shadeslayerkajongg is i386 only?09:11
Riddellarch all09:12
Riddellpython09:12
shadeslayerah makes sense then09:12
* shadeslayer steals klickety from Quintasan09:13
shadeslayerso after klickety we will just have the python stuff that fails and korundum09:14
yofelshadeslayer: status page can't show what's not uploaded09:16
yofelnot impossible to implement, but nobody did it09:17
yofelsmartboyhw: btw. after analitza is fixed please rebuild the rdepends so they pick up the new library09:19
shadeslayeryofel: and what happened with kde4libs?09:19
shadeslayerdid I upload something to the ppa but forgot to update bzr?09:19
yofelshadeslayer: you added a new changelog entry to our SRU packages, that's not allowed. There may only be *one* 4.10.4 changelog entry09:20
shadeslayeraha09:20
yofelotherwise kubuntu-archive-upload breaks09:20
yofelwell, it doesn't break, but the result is nonsense09:20
shadeslayerfor all the packages?09:20
yofelnope, only kde4libs as far as I saw09:20
shadeslayeror just the one that's broken09:20
shadeslayerah phew09:20
yofelso it should be fine now09:21
yofelnext time please edit the existing entry ;)09:21
shadeslayerso basically, can't do ppa1 and add a ppa2, instead, just make ppa1 to ppa2, got it09:21
yofelright09:21
shadeslayerI was not aware of the caveat ;)09:21
yofelyeah, we need proper workflow documentation...09:22
* yofel looks at himself ^^09:22
Riddell10:26 < cjwatson> Riddell,ScottK: Is anyone working on the way that plasma-widget-networkmanagement Breaks the version of kde-workspace-data currently in  saucy?  It looks like it's been making all your images unbuildable for a few days.09:28
yofelwell, that needs kde-workspace 4.10.8009:28
yofelI guess we can start uploading kdelibs today or so, up to workspace tomorrow and then the rest09:29
smartboyhwyofel, alright. But currently I'm having the prob that the pkgkde-symbolshelper patched .symbols just returned to original again...09:41
yofelo.O?09:41
smartboyhwyofel, yeah...09:41
smartboyhwIt resumed to 4:4.9.80....!?09:41
yofeltell me exactly what you did09:42
smartboyhwyofel, I got the patch I needed from the buildlog.09:42
smartboyhwI put it into a file.09:42
yofelerm, process improvement: you can feed pkgkde-symbolshelper the whole buildlog09:42
smartboyhwThen pkgkde-symbolshelper -p libanalitzagui5 -v 4:4.10.80 < ../<file>09:42
smartboyhwyofel, oh really?:P09:43
yofelyou can also use batchpatch, i.e. what I do:09:43
yofelsave both buildlogs from firefox09:43
yofelgunzip buildlog-*09:43
yofelpkgkde-symbolshelper -v 4:4.10.80 buildlog-*09:43
yofeldone09:43
smartboyhwOK...09:43
smartboyhwyofel, I batchpatched using the buildlog. Will try if it works still.09:44
yofelafter batchpatch is done check with bzr diff what it actually did09:45
smartboyhwyofel, from what I'm seeing here: batchpatch doesn't work either. Will try on bzr.09:46
yofelI'm off to lunch09:46
yofelshadeslayer: expert help needed ^09:46
* shadeslayer reads backlog09:46
smartboyhwI might have to use the old method then.09:47
smartboyhwMaybe too much.09:47
shadeslayerwhat are you working on09:47
smartboyhwLet me replace 4.9.80 with 4.10.80:P09:47
smartboyhwshadeslayer, analitza?09:47
shadeslayerokay09:47
shadeslayerwait plz09:48
shadeslayersmartboyhw: isn't analitza crapping out because of a so version mismatch?09:50
shadeslayerso you need to fix that first?09:50
smartboyhwshadeslayer, we fixed that already.09:50
shadeslayerah awesome09:50
smartboyhwHmm, even manually replacing doesn't work.09:50
smartboyhwMeh!?!?!?!!??!!?!?!?!!?!?!??!!09:50
shadeslayersecond thing what you want to do is fix the library name in the symbols file09:51
shadeslayersayss : libanalitzagui.so.4abi1 libanalitzagui4abi1 #MINVER#09:51
shadeslayershould be changed to whatever so version is the latest09:51
shadeslayersame thing goes for the filename and package names09:51
shadeslayerlibanalitzagui5 09:51
smartboyhwoh... That.09:52
shadeslayersmartboyhw: alternatively, you could rewrite the entire symbols file from scratch10:00
shadeslayerbah10:01
shadeslayersilly clock being messed up because my battery is shot10:02
apacheloggershadeslayer: it's half past june10:07
shadeslayerapachelogger: and?10:08
shadeslayerah heh 10:08
shadeslayertime was messed up10:08
shadeslayersame symptoms as described on the ML10:08
apacheloggerah10:08
apacheloggersend me them outputs then?10:08
shadeslayerbut more likely a hw clock issue because OS had messed up time as well10:08
shadeslayer*OS X10:08
shadeslayerwhich was most likely due to my battery not being able to hold a charge and the computer immediately shutting down when the power goes out10:09
shadeslayerapachelogger: http://paste.kde.org/778622/10:11
apacheloggernah, seems broken10:12
apacheloggerlrwxrwxrwx 2 root root 8 Jun 12 13:29 /etc/localtime -> Calcutta10:12
apacheloggercat: Calcutta: No such file or directory10:12
apacheloggerthat ought not happen10:12
apacheloggerreconfigure tzdata10:12
shadeslayerwell, reconfiguring tzdata fixes my issue :P10:12
apacheloggerI do think I know why zic is screwing up that stuff though, or I have a suspicion at least10:13
shadeslayerthen I won't be able to give you the desired output10:13
apacheloggershadeslayer: you ran the kcm says your output :P10:13
apacheloggerthe kcm uses zic, zic creates bogus symlinks, you have no time zone because the timezone file cannot be read10:14
apacheloggerq.e.d.10:14
shadeslayeraaha10:14
smartboyhwshadeslayer, who would rewrite it from scratch!?10:15
smartboyhw;O10:15
shadeslayeryou?10:16
apacheloggeryofel: force pushing builder10:20
=== GGGGEEO is now known as Esokrates
smartboyhwshadeslayer, I won't sorry.10:23
apacheloggeraaaa10:24
apacheloggerthere be a bug :(10:24
yofelsmartboyhw: please actually read http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/symbolfiles.html ;)10:25
yofelcrating a symbols file from scratch is 2 commands...10:25
yofel(and a successfull package build dir)10:25
shadeslayerexactly ^^10:25
smartboyhwHmm, maybe I should do that.10:26
shadeslayeryofel: although, how does pkgkde-symbolshelper figure out what function was introduced in some older version then :P10:27
apacheloggerit can't because its created from scratch10:27
yofelshadeslayer: it doesn't. and it doesn't need to know that10:27
apacheloggersymbol tracking starts with that version then10:27
shadeslayeri.e function introduced in KDE 4.8 -> new symbols in 4.9 -> rewrite file in 4.10  ... ah okay10:27
yofelbecause libanalitza5 never existed before10:27
shadeslayerright10:27
shadeslayerjust wanted to confirm10:27
shadeslayerI would have been highly surprised if it would be able to do that :D10:28
apacheloggeractually that would be possible :P10:29
shadeslayeroh?10:29
apacheloggeras a developer one can annotate an exported function/symbol with the version it was introduced in10:29
shadeslayerhow?10:30
apacheloggershadeslayer: http://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/Manuals/ld-2.9.1/html_node/ld_25.html10:31
apacheloggerit generally helps to read what the comments I write in phonon :P10:31
apacheloggerhttp://plan99.net/~mike/writing-shared-libraries.html10:31
* shadeslayer bookmarks for reading in the evening10:32
shadeslayer!find dprof2calltree saucy10:34
ubottuFile dprof2calltree found in kcachegrind-converters10:34
* smartboyhw has re-created the symbols files.10:38
smartboyhwBTW shadeslayer apachelogger you guys have free time to do korundum?10:39
shadeslayermaybe, fixing kcachegrind first10:39
smartboyhwshadeslayer, great:10:39
smartboyhw:)10:39
* smartboyhw hugs shadeslayer and yofel 10:40
smartboyhwIt now has no symbols errors:10:40
smartboyhw:)10:40
* smartboyhw can finally upload.10:40
shadeslayertold you10:41
smartboyhwshadeslayer, thank you:)10:41
smartboyhwTime to commit back to bzr.10:42
smartboyhwDamn, upload rejected!?!?!?!?!?!10:46
yofeltoo low version?10:46
smartboyhwyofel, yeah, I didn't see you pushed ~ppa6.10:47
smartboyhwMy fault.10:47
apacheloggerStart in 35 minutes -.-10:48
smartboyhwapachelogger, in the Ninjas PPA!?10:51
apacheloggerno10:51
apacheloggersekrit10:51
smartboyhwRe-uploading, ~ppa6.10:51
smartboyhwThat's why I HATE symbols.10:51
apacheloggerbeacuse they offer us and the users and the developer safety against stuff breaking randomly10:53
smartboyhwRiddell, I think there's a dep error on X11 for kde-dev-utils.10:56
smartboyhw#include <X11/X.h>10:57
smartboyhwOr header error, dunno.10:57
Riddellsmartboyhw: very likely10:57
Riddelllibx11-dev that'll be10:57
smartboyhwRiddell, you fix or me10:57
smartboyhw?10:57
smartboyhwBetter you.10:57
smartboyhwSince you have the package in your hand:)10:58
smartboyhwSo, our current problems (except split packages) are only kajongg....10:58
smartboyhwWow:)10:58
smartboyhw\o/10:58
BluesKajHiyas all11:02
smartboyhwHiyas BluesKaj 11:03
BluesKajhey smartboyhw11:03
smartboyhwyofel, BTW why it still shows a red light for smokegen even I added back not-installed?11:04
smartboyhwAnd cervisia has a red light.11:04
* smartboyhw looks into it.11:04
yofelI *think* because smokegen doesn't use pkg-kde-tools and generic dh_install doesn't support not-installed files11:04
smartboyhwyofel, eh...11:04
* smartboyhw checks11:04
smartboyhwyofel, so should I add it back or? (No?)11:05
yofelcan't really look into it now, just leave it11:06
smartboyhwyofel, fine then:)11:07
* smartboyhw is starting to feel tired after all these packaging:P11:07
soeesmartboyhw, drink yerba :)11:08
smartboyhwsoee, what's that?11:08
smartboyhwkubotu: newversion digikam 3.3.0-beta211:10
kubotuhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119292011:11
smartboyhw^ When we have time:)11:11
smartboyhwdpkg-shlibdeps: warning: couldn't find library libkdeinit4_cvsservice.so needed by debian/cervisia/usr/bin/cvsservice (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: '/usr/lib/kde4/libkdeinit')11:12
smartboyhwdpkg-shlibdeps: warning: couldn't find library libkdeinit4_cvsaskpass.so needed by debian/cervisia/usr/bin/cvsaskpass (ELF format: 'elf64-x86-64'; RPATH: '/usr/lib/kde4/libkdeinit')11:12
smartboyhwNew dependency or new lib package or?11:13
soeesmartboyhw, google yerba mate http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Q4hrTnehuzk/UJabuGiOHpI/AAAAAAAAANo/r0Urfr_WUII/s1600/Mate.jpg :)11:13
smartboyhwsoee, ....11:13
* smartboyhw rather wants coke.11:14
apacheloggerdrugs are bad.11:14
soeesmartboyhw, yerba is better, it contain guarana etc.11:14
smartboyhwapachelogger, +1.11:14
soeeapachelogger, +111:14
smartboyhwRiddell, yofel any thoughts? ^11:15
smartboyhw1400 failed... nice.:P11:16
yofelsmartboyhw: that's dpkg-shlibdeps failing because the libkdeinit4_cvsservice.so needed by cvsservice isn't installed into any package11:17
yofelneeds install files fixed11:17
smartboyhwyofel, OK:)11:17
yofelsoee: btw... if you're running saucy and are adventurous: the core part of 4.10.80 is done in ninjas and usable. I was running it on my netbook yesterday. Only a few of the non-default applications are still to be finished.11:19
soeeyofel, im on raring atm11:21
smartboyhwanalitza builds on PPA!!!!!!11:21
smartboyhw\o/11:21
yofelah ok, that will be done sometime next week I would say11:21
soeeyofel, and whats the saucy status atm in overall ?11:22
smartboyhwyofel, do !testers?11:23
smartboyhw:P11:23
yofelsmartboyhw: not ye11:23
yofelt11:23
smartboyhwThat should trigger everyone coming in to test:P11:23
smartboyhwyofel, :)11:23
smartboyhw:P11:23
yofelsoee: mostly done, a few packages still need fixing and a few of the kdesdk parts still need to be packaged. I think we'll be done by tomorrow, then we can look at the backporting11:24
yofelthat will take a few days as we need to write the saucy -> raring adjustment stuff11:24
soeeyofel, but Kubuntu saucy ?11:26
yofelas I said, mostly done. Should be finished tomorrow11:27
soeeoh i thought you are talking only about KDE11:28
smartboyhwUploading cervisia (fixed) soon.11:28
yofelsoee: er, I was talking about KDE, did you mean the release?11:31
soeeyofel, yes release11:31
yofelsoee: hm, pretty early really and lots todo: https://trello.com/board/13-10/515d717b729ef4844900132811:32
smartboyhwsoee, the cycle is still in early stage;)11:33
soeeand what about this rolling release ?11:34
soeei thought user can switch to such now ?11:34
smartboyhwsoee, not yet.....11:34
yofelwe won't have one. But I do wonder what happened to that dev alias they wanted to add11:34
smartboyhwAh, you mean to symlink to dev release?11:34
shadeslayeryeah, what ever happened to that11:35
yofelI guess that's item #13737 on cjwatson's todo list :D11:35
smartboyhwyofel, whoa! That long!??!?!?!?!?11:35
yofelwell, he seems permanently busy with something when you try to get a hold of him11:36
* smartboyhw goes to shower himself:P11:36
shadeslayeraye11:36
smartboyhwReally nothing much packaging to do now....11:36
shadeslayercjwatson has his hands in everything11:36
smartboyhwshadeslayer, heh:)11:36
smartboyhwHmm, so quiet?:)12:21
shadeslayerjust working on fixing things :_)12:23
shadeslayerlike nepomuk-core wants libx11-dev apparently12:23
smartboyhwSo many things are crying for libx11-dev it seems:P12:25
shadeslayerapparently a mistake on upstream's part :)12:26
shadeslayernot required12:26
smartboyhwshadeslayer, :)12:26
smartboyhwAfter this 4-day packaging training, I think I can write an fully-technical article on my blog.12:30
yofelsmartboyhw: analitza still has work: libanalitzaplot4.symbols  should be 512:32
yofeland I wonder why libanalitza never had a symbols file o.O (not your fault though)12:32
shadeslayerI thought he created it from scratch?12:33
shadeslayeryofel: anything left btw?12:34
shadeslayerexcept for korundum and python12:34
shadeslayerI fixed some lintian stuff12:34
yofelwell, looking at the update, libanalitza4abi2 had no symbols file and the other one is simply named wrong12:34
yofelshadeslayer: korundum and kajongg I believe...12:34
yofeland kdesdk12:34
yofelwhat's left of it12:34
shadeslayerwell, kajongg is python right?12:35
yofelright (I thought you meant pykde)12:35
yofelW: libanalitzagui5: syntax-error-in-debian-changelog line 24 "badly formatted trailer line"12:35
yofelwhat?12:35
shadeslayerI meant both pykde and kajongg12:35
yofelpykde is fixed, that needed pyqt rebuilt against sip12:35
shadeslayerwhats left in kdesdk?12:37
shadeslayerwell, cervisia seems done12:37
yofelnot sure, ask Riddell12:38
shadeslayerRiddell: ^^12:38
shadeslayerRiddell: can you mark things that were done12:38
yofeland reviewing things would be a good idea, I only looked over kdeadmin12:38
Riddellwhat what?12:39
RiddellI'm working on okteta now12:39
shadeslayerI'm mostly looking at lintian warnings at the moment12:39
Riddellpoxml and umbrello next then I'm done12:39
shadeslayerminor fixes like dbg package doesn't depend on the package, and kcachegrind didn't have another package12:40
Riddellalthough I'm getting distracted by being famous in LWN, my dream achieved at last12:40
shadeslayeroh?12:40
yofeloh?12:40
Riddellshadeslayer: seems debian has a practice of suggesting the package from the -dbg in kdesdk so I followed that12:40
shadeslayerhttp://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/554758/c9b68953059e9dbb/12:41
shadeslayerI suppose12:41
yofelhehehe12:41
Riddellbah, okteta broke API too12:44
shadeslayeroh btw12:49
shadeslayerRiddell: do we really need the dbg packages for the split modules?12:50
shadeslayerbecause I was hoping we could move towards dbgsym12:50
shadeslayerfor these new packages atleast12:50
shadeslayerwhich is why I am usure how much it makes sense to have a separate -dbg package there12:50
Riddellshadeslayer: reading comments here and on #kubuntu people often point to -dbg and get confused when once doesn't exist12:54
Riddellshadeslayer: and debian will just add back the -dbg so no point if getting rid of it I guess12:54
shadeslayerhm, I recall that debian was moving towards dbgsym as well?12:54
Riddellreally?  I've not heard of that12:55
yofelshadeslayer: unless we unconditionally get dbgsym's for every existing PPA I wouldn't go that way12:56
yofelor at least you won't get dbgsym's for the binary copies I do as I understand it12:56
yofel(I rarely build packages in the kubuntu ppa's directly)12:56
yofeland I'm not going to change that until we get britney for PPA's12:57
shadeslayerhttp://debug.debian.net/12:57
shadeslayeranyway, tired of packaging for today12:58
shadeslayerbe back later12:58
apacheloggeruploading another qtbase12:59
apacheloggermaybe it builds12:59
apacheloggermaybe it doesn't12:59
Riddellcor that's quite a heated flamewar on LWN :(12:59
highvoltagewell Jonathan Corbet is quite a troll and not worthy of being called a Jonathan13:03
apachelogger^^13:04
Riddellyou think?  he's always seemed very reasonable to me13:04
apacheloggeryou were blinded by the name13:05
apacheloggerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcWVL4B-4pI&feature=youtube_gdata13:05
smartboyhwyofel, what!?13:05
* smartboyhw thought he fixed that...13:05
yofelnot in bzr13:06
apacheloggerStart in 27 minutes13:06
apacheloggerscrew this13:06
* apachelogger goes for a swim and dinner13:06
smartboyhwSorry my fault yofel ...13:07
smartboyhwI will create a symbols file too for libanalitza.13:07
* smartboyhw forgot to rename that file ONLY:(13:08
Quintasanhttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69524/IMG_20130620_150830.jpg13:09
Quintasanyay13:09
smartboyhwanalitza ~ppa7 coming after test build.13:16
QuintasanWhile it doesn't suck it's not entirely the best13:16
smartboyhwQuintasan, got time to do korundum?13:17
QuintasanNot really.13:17
RiddellQuintasan: ooh how'd you get that running?13:19
Quintasanbasyskom image13:19
Riddellah13:19
Quintasannow I need to figure out how to get our rootfs booting13:19
smartboyhwMeh, anyone really have time to do?13:20
Riddellsmartboyhw: I can get to it in a bit13:21
smartboyhwRiddell, :)13:21
smartboyhwyofel, fix for analitza in bzr and uploaded (not yet accepted though).13:23
smartboyhwStats: Our Ninjas PPA has a successfully built rate of 93.0475432663616471%.13:25
smartboyhw~ppa7 accepted.13:26
RiddellQuintasan: what's the state of telepathy?13:31
QuintasanUnfortunately waiting13:31
QuintasanRiddell: I'll do the whole stack tomorrow should nothing happen13:31
RiddellI hate to say I told you so but... :)13:32
QuintasanRiddell: There is some magic with linker going on with Debian and I can't have it uploaded13:32
RiddellQuintasan: would be good to have it in for alpha 1 so tomorrow would be lovely13:32
* Quintasan jots that down13:32
Quintasanshadeslayer: Looks like the rootfs created with the livebuild won't just work with the kerne;13:33
Quintasankernel*13:33
smartboyhwRiddell, are u fixing kde-dev-utils?13:48
Quintasanwhat13:48
QuintasanSmokegen is marked as failing and the build log says it's fine13:48
yofelQuintasan: not-installed is ignored13:49
smartboyhwQuintasan, yeah...13:49
Quintasansmartboyhw: I can work on kde-dev-utils13:49
smartboyhwQuintasan, oh yeah? Sure;)13:49
yofelmeh13:50
* smartboyhw does Quintasan to fix korundum since he can't fix korundum but can fix kde-dev-utils.13:50
smartboyhws/does/does want/13:50
kubotusmartboyhw meant: "does want Quintasan to fix korundum since he can't fix korundum but can fix kde-dev-utils."13:50
Quintasanyofel: I see can't see how is that relevant13:50
yofelsmartboyhw: I pointed you to the wrong fix (even though I wanted to suggest that way next): http://paste.kde.org/77882013:50
smartboyhwyofel, ...13:51
shadeslayerQuintasan: oh?13:51
smartboyhwLet me do it then...13:51
shadeslayerQuintasan: can you check dmesg to see what's going wrong?13:51
Quintasanshadeslayer: If I could I wouldn't be whining13:51
shadeslayerQuintasan: should be trivial from recovery13:52
shadeslayerQuintasan: check /proc/last_kmsg13:52
Quintasanwhat recovery13:52
Quintasanit's not TF10113:52
shadeslayerflash CWM -.-13:52
shadeslayerflash CWM -> flash custom kernel -> untar rootfs onto data partition -> boot -> reboot to recovery -> check /proc/last_kmsg13:53
smartboyhwsmokegen ~ppa4 uploaded.14:02
smartboyhwEh, I thought it was ~ppa3 but yofel uploaded ~ppa3 already...14:02
Quintasanyofel: 4:4.10.80-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.10~ppa3 - it build successfully14:04
QuintasanT_T14:04
yofelQuintasan: er, yeah?14:05
yofelit's read because of that stupid libcppparser.so in list-missing14:05
yofel*red14:05
Quintasanoh14:05
shadeslayerhmm14:05
yofelwhich smartboyhw was fixing now14:05
* shadeslayer is thinking of reverting his last commit to krfb14:05
smartboyhwyofel, I fixed it already:P14:05
smartboyhwUploaded.14:06
smartboyhw~ppa4 that is.14:06
smartboyhwIt just appeared:)14:06
yofelnot in bzr...14:06
smartboyhwyofel, not?14:06
* smartboyhw has committed it already for sure.14:06
yofelI see r68 as latest14:06
yofelTree is up to date at revision 68 of branch bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/smokegen                                                                      14:07
yofelshadeslayer: hm? what did you do?14:07
smartboyhwyofel, uh I forgot to push (committed) and now it's diverged:O14:07
shadeslayer+Depends: ${misc:Depends}, kde-runtime-dbg, krfb14:08
Quintasankde-dev-utils fixed14:08
yofelhm...14:08
smartboyhwyofel, check check14:09
smartboyhwyofel, my rev. 68 is the fix...14:09
yofelsmartboyhw: ack14:09
smartboyhw...14:09
smartboyhwAnyways.14:09
* Riddell sets kde-dev-utils quintasan WIP in https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas14:10
shadeslayeryofel: already gas  Suggests: krfb (= ${source:Version})14:10
shadeslayererm14:10
shadeslayers/gas/has14:10
QuintasanRiddell: I already did that, and it's done14:10
yofelshadeslayer: hm... when it's only one binary package then I would agree with your choice14:10
shadeslayerlintian complaints about the -dbg package not depending on krfb then14:10
RiddellQuintasan: groovy14:11
Quintasanhmm14:11
shadeslayeryofel: however : [18:10:30] <Riddell> shadeslayer: seems debian has a practice of suggesting the package from the -dbg in kdesdk so I followed that14:11
smartboyhwStart in 10 minutes for smokegen :O14:11
smartboyhwI thought private PPAs got faster :P14:11
shadeslayerRiddell: I think the policy of suggesting a binary was because there was only 1 dbg package, but multiple 'normal' packges14:12
shadeslayer*packages14:12
yofelI would agree with that14:12
yofelkonsole for example has a hard-dep with exact version14:12
shadeslayerbut since now there's just one binary and one -dbg package ... the -dbg package should have a hard dep on that binary14:12
shadeslayerokay, so I'll lose the suggests, and use = ${source:Version} in Depends14:13
Riddellsmartboyhw: you're on analitza again?14:13
smartboyhwRiddell, done:P14:13
yofelanalitza is weird lintian wise. I don't get what's wrong14:14
smartboyhwHour ago actually...14:14
Riddelllibanalitzagui5: syntax-error-in-debian-changelog line 31 "badly formatted trailer line"14:14
smartboyhwyofel, I think it's my problem. I crapped up the changelog.14:14
smartboyhwOne without a manpage14:15
* smartboyhw can't remember.....14:15
Riddellhmm I don't see an issue on line 3114:15
smartboyhwBut I don't understand what's the problem...14:15
ScottKxnox: Since I did python-qt4 for you, would you please look at ball.  I think it's probably boost1.53 related.14:15
yofelreally? I don't see the problem14:15
Riddellsmartboyhw: oh your upload to the PPA has a different changelog from the bzr14:16
smartboyhwRiddell, the problem is that I just crapped up....14:16
smartboyhwRiddell, of course I have different changelog from bzr...14:16
xnoxScottK: I didn't get to fixing "b*" boost related FTBFS from the latest rebuild yet. so possible.14:16
QuintasanWAT14:16
Quintasan>Error multiple versions of the same package picmi14:16
smartboyhwWAT...14:16
smartboyhwRiddell, changelog in bzr doesn;t have ~ppa.....14:16
QuintasanSomebody broke the script!14:16
yofelsmartboyhw: can you use bzr-buildpackage-ppa to generate the upload package? That's the most reliable way to prevent that14:17
Riddellsmartboyhw: yeah then use kubuntu-automation/bzr-buildpackage-ppa to build from the bzr cleanly14:17
Riddellsmartboyhw: I'll upload ~ppa814:17
QuintasanMy god14:17
Quintasanshadeslayer: It's 42*C outside here14:17
RiddellQuintasan: send some over here!14:18
shadeslayerQuintasan: whoa :O14:18
yofelonly ~28°C with ~50% humidity. Earlier today we had 26°C with like 80% humidity, that was awful14:18
QuintasanRiddell: Actually I'm just guessing since it's probably so hot the thermomether broke14:19
shadeslayer!weather14:19
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about weather14:19
shadeslayerQuintasan: 36oC here, 40% humidity14:19
shadeslayerkubotu: weather14:19
smartboyhwRiddell, OK then.....14:19
shadeslayerstupid bot :/14:19
yofel~weather14:21
* smartboyhw will fix kopete.14:21
yofel:(14:21
* Riddell investigates kajongg14:22
yofelRiddell: wrt kajongg, pykde is fine, so only twisted needs to be looked at14:22
Quintasanshadeslayer: Actually 38*C 50% humidity14:22
shadeslayeryour weather is broken14:23
QuintasanWelcome to Poland14:23
QuintasanIn winter we have up to -30*C14:23
Quintasan:P14:23
shadeslayerhah14:27
Quintasanyofel: What are those orange packages?14:27
shadeslayeryofel: now lintian complains about http://lintian.debian.org/tags/not-binnmuable-any-depends-any.html14:27
shadeslayerfor kppp14:27
QuintasanI understand blue needs building14:27
Quintasanbut orange?14:27
shadeslayerwarning14:27
yofelred: bad, orange: not-so-bad-but-something's-not-good14:27
QuintasanAnd we want em green, right?14:28
shadeslayerbah14:28
shadeslayersame for krfb as well14:28
yofelorange includes lintian errors/warnings, new symbols and missing cmake deps14:28
shadeslayerI'll just switch to binary:Version14:28
QuintasanRiddell: you marked analitza as done, are you going to fix those or want me to do so?14:28
RiddellQuintasan: fix which? I just uploaded analitza from bzr14:29
Riddellwhich fixes the changelog issues14:29
smartboyhwQuintasan, the marking guy is me actually.........14:29
QuintasanRiddell: It's orange in the script meaning something is wrong but not a total failure, I guess I can take a look at those lintian whinings14:29
RiddellQuintasan: just changelog, fixed14:29
yofelQuintasan: just wait, the current upload will fix it14:30
QuintasanOkay14:30
yofelscript is just lagging behind14:30
* Quintasan waits for the page to update14:30
yofelW: kdesdk-scripts: script-with-language-extension usr/bin/build-progress.sh14:30
yofelheh14:30
shadeslayergah14:30
shadeslayerit's like I *want* to break my phone today14:30
shadeslayerkeeps falling off the table14:30
smartboyhwshadeslayer, keep it in a safe.14:30
* yofel puts a dialing pad on smartboyhw's safe14:31
smartboyhwyofel, I don't have a safe.14:31
smartboyhw:P14:31
yofelmeh14:31
yofeldo we care about that script-with-language-extension thing? (I personally wouldn't)14:32
shadeslayeroh I see what you're doing14:32
shadeslayersmartboyhw: you want to mint karma14:32
shadeslayerhttp://www.reddit.com/r/whatsinthisthing14:32
Quintasanshadeslayer: I have a faffy Desire Z, want to give me yours instead of breaking it?14:32
smartboyhwshadeslayer, !?14:32
Riddellsmartboyhw: what's up with kopete?14:32
Riddelland why won't laucnhpad give me build logs?14:32
shadeslayerQuintasan: no thx, I'll trade you my old, still awesome working HTC Desire for it14:32
smartboyhwRiddell, boost dependency error.14:32
smartboyhwRiddell, LOL14:32
smartboyhwDunno:P14:33
Riddellsmartboyhw: hmm, we have no smoke kate for korundum?14:34
smartboyhwRiddell, no. We glorifyingly don't have it. It's a strange problem though, refer to yesterday's backlog in irclogs.u.c.14:35
Quintasanshadeslayer: no, I prefer muh qwerty keyboard then14:36
Quintasan:P14:36
shadeslayerdrat, you caught my play :P14:36
shadeslayerQuintasan: my current phone should last me another year if I don't break the hardware14:36
* yofel needs a new phone14:37
yofelI still have my n900 for private use. That I have Desire S from work makes it easier14:37
* smartboyhw has a Samsung Galaxy Pocket (Android 2.3.6, ARMv6, 512 MB RAM)...14:38
smartboyhwWe do have a lot of Nokia phones stored.14:38
Quintasanehueheuehueheuheuheuehueheuehueheueheuh14:41
Quintasanshadeslayer: lol those mer images boot from systemd14:42
QuintasanWhich might explain why it doesn't work14:42
shadeslayerwhat in the 7 hells are you trying to do :P14:42
shadeslayerseriously, just grab the kernel, compile it, stuff the kernel and initramfs into a boot.img and flash that?14:42
QuintasanNO14:42
Quintasanthat would be too easy14:43
shadeslayerif only :(14:43
QuintasanBesides, do you even know how that device works?14:43
smartboyhwQuintasan, too easy doesn't mean it doesn't work........ (And it might NOT be too easy)14:43
shadeslayernope, I'm just speculating that you have a way to flash the kernel?14:43
Quintasanyes14:43
Quintasanmount the /boot partition14:43
shadeslayerthe what partition now14:44
Quintasancopy zImage and initramfs.cpio.something there and press ok in the recovery14:44
shadeslayer*blink*14:44
smartboyhwshadeslayer, orange lights mean lintian E: or all lintian E: and W: s?14:45
shadeslayerhave you tried the standard ubuntu omap kernel then?14:45
yofelsmartboyhw: any lintian that's not whitelisted14:45
smartboyhwyofel, whoa...14:45
yofeland we only generate W and E14:45
Riddellyofel: hmm python-twisted installs file on a new ec2 I started14:46
yofelwhitelist is in kubuntu-automation/lintian-ignore.json14:46
yofelRiddell: i386?14:46
yofelI only have am64 chroots for ninja use, but there it worked too14:46
Riddellyep, i386, retried in launchpad for good luck14:46
smartboyhwWhoa, the first few warnings on http://paste.kde.org/778940/ are terrible....14:47
smartboyhwkopete-dbg suggests kopete-dbg!?14:47
smartboyhwand without a kopete depend!?14:47
smartboyhw:O14:47
Riddelland korundum works fine if I make it not require kate14:47
Riddellsmartboyhw: Suggests: kopete-dbg  should be  Suggests: kopete and I think shadeslayer was changing them to depends14:48
shadeslayeryep14:48
smartboyhwRiddell, shadeslayer OK. Fixed locally, will commit to bzr later.14:49
smartboyhwscript-with-language extension, hmm....14:49
smartboyhwLanguage extension?14:49
Quintasanwhat kind of bullshit is this14:49
smartboyhwQuintasan, !?14:49
yofelsmartboyhw: the .sh part14:49
smartboyhwyofel, yeah, removing it....14:50
Quintasanthere is no systemd package in saucy14:50
smartboyhwOr was it really a .sh?14:50
yofelQuintasan: er what? there is14:50
Quintasanno there is not14:50
yofel!info systemd saucy14:51
ubottuPackage systemd does not exist in saucy14:51
QuintasanSee.14:51
smartboyhwW: kopete: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libkopete-oscar4 libkopete-otr-shared1 libkopeteaddaccountwizard1 libkopetechatwindow-shared1 libkopetecontactlist1 libkopeteidentity1 libkopeteprivacy1 libkopetestatusmenu1 libkyahoo1 liboscar1 libqgroupwise14:51
smartboyhwNice:O14:51
yofelstupid bot14:51
smartboyhwBots are stupid.14:51
Quintasanhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/systemd/204-0ubuntu414:51
QuintasanThere is no binary /lib/systemd/systemd14:51
Quintasanwhich renders everything useless since how you are supposed to boot off that14:52
yofelmeh, they completely crippeled that in faviour of upstart then14:52
xnoxScottK: i'm yet to transition ball to boost1.53, so it's not new that it ftbfs. and i've tried fixing it before, unsuccessfully.14:52
smartboyhwyofel, any ideas with the above warning? ^14:53
Quintasan<slangasek> Quintasan: Ubuntu does not support systemd as init.14:55
yofelhm, that's because most libs are together in the 'kopete' package14:55
QuintasanApparently it's a valid reason for crippling the package14:55
shadeslayerwhat else did you think14:55
yofelRiddell: are really none of them relevant for the stuff in libkopete-dev?14:55
QuintasanI think it's dumb but whatever14:55
QuintasanHE kind of implies that everyone will automatically install that14:56
Riddellyofel: mm dunno I just split it out from kdenetwork, didn't change anything14:56
yofelhm14:57
smartboyhwHmm indeed,14:57
* smartboyhw checks out openSUSE's packaging:P14:57
Riddellyofel: yeah I think it's just libkopete that's public as an API14:57
Riddellyofel: kopete-cryptography and kopete-plugin-thinklight only link against libkopete14:57
yofelsmartboyhw: I don't think that's really worth it...14:58
Riddellsame for kopete-message-indicator14:58
smartboyhwRiddell, yeah.14:58
yofelRiddell: right, I just checked that too, so I guess we're fine14:58
smartboyhw*yofel, yeah14:58
yofelsmartboyhw: just whitelist that warning then14:58
smartboyhwyofel, OK. Whitelist those manpages and icon sizes too?14:58
yofelbinary-without-manpage is whitelisted for everything already14:59
smartboyhwHmm, we did have it whistlisted:O14:59
yofelicon-size-and-directory-name-mismatch too14:59
* smartboyhw doesn't understand why it appears then...14:59
yofelsmartboyhw: it's whitelisted for the status script, not the generation14:59
smartboyhwyofel, oh.14:59
smartboyhwWell, I'm alright to upload then.14:59
Riddellkajongg compiled :)15:00
smartboyhwyofel, do I have to only add things from upstream changelog?15:00
smartboyhwRiddell, :O15:00
smartboyhw:)15:00
yofelwhat upstream changelog?15:00
smartboyhwyofel, not upstream, from the ~ppa1 changelog.15:00
smartboyhwI mean, like when I upload one version, you will upload another to merge the two revisions.15:01
yofeluh, that's already in bzr15:01
yofeljust add your changes on top of it15:01
yofelRiddell: I'm thinking about script-with-language-extension. Do you think it's sensible to rename that in the install file? Or do you think it's useless15:04
Riddellyofel: I was just going to leave it15:04
Riddellsmartboyhw: you doing kopete?15:05
smartboyhwRiddell, done actually...15:05
smartboyhwJust uploaded, pushing to bzr now.15:06
yofelhm, ok. Not like it was ever fixed before15:06
Quintasanwell fuck15:06
Quintasanyeah15:06
Riddellsmartboyhw: oh groovy (better to do it the other way around, bzr then upload)15:06
smartboyhwRiddell, alright.15:06
smartboyhwRiddell, how?15:07
smartboyhwbzr-buildpackage-ppa?15:07
Riddellthis morning rekonq crashed so I used firefox, this afternoon firefox crashed so I used chromium, this evening I notice it's chromium that can't read kubuntu-ninjas build logs so I'm back at rekonq15:07
* smartboyhw never used the script...15:07
smartboyhwRiddell, LOL15:07
Riddellyes bzr-buildpackage-ppa, run it from the bzr repo15:07
Riddelloh but https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas doesn't work in rekonq :(15:08
smartboyhwRiddell, heh15:08
ScottKxnox: There's a new upstream version of ball out.  Maybe you get lucky and it builds.15:14
xnoxScottK: been there.... done that.... didn't help much. some patches need rebasing, some dropping, and still didn't built with gcc4.8/boost1.5315:15
ScottKOK.  Odd there's no upstream bugs either.15:15
smartboyhwRiddell, re-uploading.15:16
Riddellshadeslayer: you ignored libquazip0-dev for marble?15:18
* Riddell looks15:19
shadeslayerhmm15:20
shadeslayeryeah, managed to miss it15:20
Riddellshadeslayer: I'm onto it15:21
shadeslayerkool :)15:22
smartboyhwHeh, look at kubuntu-ninjas notes page, I written all the orange lights there:P15:22
* Riddell fixes kubuntu-automatation15:30
shadeslayerwhat's that ? :D15:31
Riddellshadeslayer: I missed a comma in json15:31
Riddelljson is very fussy about its commas15:31
xnoxScottK: are any other rebuilds for sip4 in progress? is there an transition tracker or something to build them in correct order?15:33
ScottKxnox: There's no transition tracker.  I'm uploading them in the right order (just did it in Debian, so I know it)15:35
xnoxScottK: ack.15:36
smartboyhwshadeslayer, for the json error, look at the status page know:)15:36
smartboyhwhttp://kyofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/build_status_4.10.80_saucy.html15:36
smartboyhwknow -> no15:36
ScottKqscintlla2 (sync) and pyqwt5 calibre avogadro python-poppler-qt4 veusz so far.15:36
smartboyhw*now15:36
ScottKpyqwt3d and pykde4 a bit later.15:36
ScottKOnce those are done, I'll check and see if britney finds anything I missed.15:37
smartboyhwOh shoot, I needed a ppa4.....15:38
smartboyhwAs it turns out: I needn't.:P15:39
smartboyhw~ppa2 failed.15:39
smartboyhwBut I forgot to move the .install file to ~ppa3 (fortunately)15:39
Riddellsmartboyhw: kopete go boom?15:39
smartboyhwRiddell, not.15:39
smartboyhwRiddell, I forgot to move the .install file. But then not moving is correct:)15:39
smartboyhw:P15:39
smartboyhwSo ~ppa3 should built fine:P15:39
* smartboyhw cheers15:40
smartboyhwPhew:)15:40
smartboyhwGoing to sleep now guys............... If there's anything TODO tomorrow I will surely join in. But for now, that's goners.15:41
Riddellkajongg: package-installs-python-bytecode usr/share/kde4/apps/kajongg/about.pyc15:52
Riddellhmm what changed there?15:52
* Riddell looks15:52
yofelThat bytecode has been there for a while. But nobody noticed it until the lintian check was added.15:59
Riddellgood old lintian15:59
Riddellwe should really make that package use dh_python2 or something15:59
* Riddell does so16:00
Riddelloh but dunno how with dhmk16:02
ScottKRiddell: At the magic @ thing do --with python216:05
ScottKThen you'll need to add an override for dh_python2 (I think) to make it operate on the private directory.16:05
ScottKman dh_python2 tells you where it looks by default.16:05
RiddellScottK: there's no magic @ in dhmk, it's not like normal debhelper16:05
ScottKOh.16:06
ScottKWhich package is it?16:06
ScottKRiddell: Add "dh = --with=python2"16:07
ScottKSee pykde4 for an example.16:07
RiddellScottK: ooh16:07
lordievaderGood evening.16:11
shadeslayeruh16:24
shadeslayerE: kajongg: package-installs-python-bytecode usr/share/kde4/apps/kajongg/board.pyc16:24
QuintasanHURR16:24
shadeslayeroh fun16:28
shadeslayerRiddell: /usr/include/quazip/zip.h:56:18: fatal error: zlib.h: No such file or directory16:28
shadeslayer!find quazip/zip.h saucy16:29
ubottuFile quazip/zip.h found in libquazip0-dev16:29
ScottKMissing build-dep16:29
shadeslayerUnpacking libquazip0-dev:amd64 (from .../libquazip0-dev_0.5.1-1_amd64.deb) ...16:30
shadeslayerScottK: seems to be fine?16:30
shadeslayerhmm16:31
ScottKDoes zip.h reference zlib.h?16:31
ScottKIf so, I think (not sure) libquazip0-dev should depend on whatever the zlib -dev package is named (it's not what you'd guess, but I don't remember what it is)16:32
shadeslayerhm16:39
shadeslayeryofel: did you properly do the symbols on libkdegames?16:39
shadeslayerbecause : E: libkdegames6: symbols-file-contains-current-version-with-debian-revision on symbol _ZN10KGameKeyIO11eventFilterEP7QObjectP6QEvent@Base and 957 others16:40
yofelo.O16:41
yofellooking16:41
shadeslayerseems fine to me : debian/libkdegamesprivate1.symbols: _ZN10KGameKeyIO11eventFilterEP7QObjectP6QEvent@Base 4:4.8.8016:41
shadeslayerso why is lintian complaining?16:41
yofelurgh16:42
yofelthose are from the embedded libkdegamesprivate.so.116:42
yofelshadeslayer: for some reason, libkdegamesprivate is in libkdegames6.install16:43
yofeldebian I guess16:43
yofelyeah, that's from the debian merge16:43
yofelwhat to do...16:43
shadeslayerah16:44
shadeslayerhm16:44
yofelI would personally revert that and split it out again, then it should work16:44
shadeslayerthat lintian error is sitll odd :P16:45
shadeslayer*still16:45
shadeslayeryofel: but it seems like it was put there for a purpose?16:45
yofelshadeslayer: it was put there because it needs no seperate package as it's private stuff16:45
yofelit just confuses symbolshelper16:45
yofelshadeslayer: and the lintian warning makes sense, the symbols diff is huge16:46
yofelmaybe just adding that to libkdegames6.symbols would work too...16:46
shadeslayerto me lintian error makes no sense16:46
yofellintian always warns about new symbols16:46
shadeslayerno no16:47
shadeslayerE: libkdegames6: symbols-file-contains-current-version-with-debian-revision on symbol _ZN10KGameKeyIO11eventFilterEP7QObjectP6QEvent@Base and 957 others16:47
yofeloh that :D16:47
shadeslayerdoesn't that mean a debian revision like 0ubuntu1 crept in16:47
yofel+ _ZN10KGameKeyIO11eventFilterEP7QObjectP6QEvent@Base 4:4.10.80-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.10~ppa416:47
shadeslayerah wait16:47
shadeslayeryeh16:47
shadeslayeryeah16:47
shadeslayernow it does :)16:47
yofelyeah, it's not what you would expect ^^16:47
yofellet me try to patch that into libkdegames6.symbols16:47
yofelthen we'll see what happens16:48
shadeslayeryeah, what I thought was, 0ubuntu1 foo crept into the symbols file that we have16:48
shadeslayerlintian throws a curveball ;)16:48
yofelthat's what I thought too when I first saw that :P16:48
yofelbut lintian operates on the final symbols file16:48
shadeslayerright, the one that dpkg-gensymbols generated?16:49
yofelyep16:49
yofelwhat you find in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ later16:49
shadeslayerI thought the symbols in there were the ones we put into the packaging?16:51
shadeslayeroh wow16:51
shadeslayerthe dpkg-gensymbols man page references links to Uldrich Drepper's people.redhat.com page16:52
yofelnope, those are the symbol source for comparison, shipped is the generated one16:52
yofelyay, thanks pkgkde-symbolshelper for not being able to handle 2 libs in one package16:53
shadeslayerheh16:53
ScottKWhoever's doing pykde4 for 4.11 beta1, please make sure to update from bzr.16:54
yofelcan do16:55
* shadeslayer is tired :(16:55
shadeslayerbut not tired enough to sleep16:55
yofelbetter than being tired enough to sleep but failing to do that because it's too hot -.-16:56
yofelpykde updated16:57
ScottKThanks.16:57
shadeslayerI'm pretty sure that stage is about 3 hours away16:57
yofelok, my manual symbol editing worked, now lets see how badly it fails on i386 in the PPA ^^16:59
shadeslayergood god @_@16:59
shadeslayermanual updating of symbols16:59
* ScottK bets 30 minutes trying to fix the ball FTBFS will have you begging for sleep.16:59
yofelshadeslayer: well, it was c&p really :P16:59
shadeslayerball ftbfs?16:59
ScottKThe package.17:00
shadeslayerthere's a source called ball?17:00
ScottKhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ball/1.4.1+20111206-4ubuntu3/+build/4729989/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-i386.ball_1.4.1%2B20111206-4ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz17:00
shadeslayersip17:00
shadeslayer/o\17:00
shadeslayerhooray for whoever has to fix that17:00
ScottKThat one isn't sip's fault though.17:01
shadeslayerlooks like a boost issue?17:01
ScottKIt's xnox' fault since he wanted boost1.53.17:01
ScottKYes.17:01
shadeslayerhehe17:01
shadeslayerhmm : E: perlkde source: version-substvar-for-external-package perlkde-dbg -> libkate-perl17:02
shadeslayerI don't see a libkate-perl17:02
shadeslayeroff with its head17:03
yofeler yeah, kill kate17:03
yofelthat's not built17:03
shadeslayerhm, so any chances it'll come back?17:03
shadeslayeri.e. to comment or to completely remove17:03
yofelremove, easy enough to recover from history if it ever comes back17:04
* ScottK ♥'s kate17:04
yofelshadeslayer: you fixing marble?17:04
shadeslayerwill do, once I push perlkde17:04
yofelI think it's missing zlib1g-dev or how that's called17:05
shadeslayeryofel: interesting how rmadison doesn't show a libkate-perl anywhere17:05
shadeslayeryofel: libqazip needs fixing17:05
shadeslayershould pull in libzlib-dev or whatever17:05
yofelzlib1g-dev it is17:05
yofelkate bindings existed at the beginning of bindings splitting time17:06
yofelwere removed because kate-dev was an unstable mess17:06
shadeslayer!info libkate-perl quantal17:06
ubottuPackage libkate-perl does not exist in quantal17:06
yofelperlkde (4.7.0-0ubuntu2) oneiric; urgency=low17:07
yofel  * Drop kate bindings (removed from smoke due to ABI instability)17:07
shadeslayerah17:07
shadeslayerI wonder how long that's been uninstallable?17:07
shadeslayereh, then again, just a suggests17:07
yofelyeah, never ^^17:07
* shadeslayer once tried installing something with --install-suggests17:07
shadeslayerpulled in half the archive it did17:07
yofelthough that was the 2nd upload perlkde ever had. i.e.:17:08
yofel1) I added kate bindings17:08
yofel2) Scott removed them17:08
* ScottK doesn't recall the details.17:08
yofelI remember you saying that kate is too unstable to be maintainable17:09
yofelor something like that17:09
ScottKThey may have calmed down now, but at the time they were going nuts.17:10
ScottKI do recall that.17:10
* yofel wonders why he can never use opengl in kwin in a beta1 on his netbook...17:12
shadeslayerlikewise here :S17:13
yofeldrat, then I can't blame my poor intel chip17:13
shadeslayernope17:13
shadeslayeryofel: for me compositing doesn't work17:14
shadeslayerkwin(26153): Failed to initialize compositing, compositing disabled 17:14
yofelhm. I had Xrender enabled before the upgrade, that still works17:14
yofelIf I try to use something else the screen freezes for ~10s and I'm back on xrender17:15
yofelhm... where's kget o.O17:15
* yofel uploads what's in bzr17:17
shadeslayermm .. I don't I can upload quazip17:19
shadeslayer*I don't think17:20
* shadeslayer waits for rejection mai17:20
shadeslayer*mail17:20
shadeslayerScottK: Upload plz http://paste.kde.org/779084/17:20
shadeslayerprobably worth uploading to debian as well17:21
ScottKshadeslayer: Send them a bug report.17:21
ScottK(with patch)17:21
shadeslayerI hate the debian bug reporting system -.-17:21
ScottKAre you using reportbug?17:21
shadeslayeryes, that's what I hate17:22
ScottKEasy enough with that.17:22
yofelI still have an alias lying around from my bugsquad days17:22
yofelalias reportpatch='/usr/bin/reportbug -P '\''User: ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com'\'' -P '\''Usertags: origin-ubuntu raring ubuntu-patch'\'' -T patch'17:22
yofels/raring/saucy/17:22
kubotuyofel meant: "alias reportpatch='/usr/bin/reportbug -P '\''User: ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com'\'' -P '\''Usertags: origin-ubuntu saucy ubuntu-patch'\'' -T patch'"17:22
shadeslayernifty17:22
shadeslayerwhat release should be the target ?17:23
ScottKunstable17:23
shadeslayerexperimental?17:23
shadeslayerokay17:23
ScottKAren't you a MOTU yet?17:23
shadeslayernope17:23
ScottKYou should fix that.17:25
yofelthe only thing I would need motu permissions for are new packages... I rarely do anything outside our packageset17:25
shadeslayerlikewise 17:25
yofelshadeslayer: you go first :P17:25
ScottKBTW, you forgot to run update-maintainer.17:25
ScottKshadeslayer: Did you test build this?17:25
shadeslayeryofel: that pseudo header is weirdish17:25
shadeslayerScottK: nope, do I really have to?17:26
ScottKSomebody does.17:26
yofelthe usertag stuff?17:26
* ScottK does.17:26
shadeslayerI am unsure why there is a need to ?17:26
ScottKNo, test build before uploading.17:26
ScottKBecause if you don't you don't know if it will build.17:27
ScottKMaybe something changed in the archive since the last time it was uploaded.17:27
shadeslayeroh ... good point, too many changes in saucy17:27
ScottKThis is always the case, which is why even trivial changes should be test built.17:28
shadeslayeryofel: libkdegames :(17:29
yofelseen17:29
yofelI knew that would happen :P17:29
yofelok, now symbolshelper seems to work at least17:30
shadeslayeryofel: I'll just send it without the pseudo headers17:31
yofeldo that17:31
ScottKshadeslayer: Uploaded.  Thanks.17:33
* yofel fixes kde-dev-utils-dbg17:33
ScottKshadeslayer: Did you send the bug?17:34
shadeslayerScottK: almost done with that17:34
ScottKGreat.17:34
shadeslayerfilling out description and what not17:34
shadeslayeruhh17:37
shadeslayerBug report written as /var/tmp/libquazip-dev.bug17:37
shadeslayermaybe because I have no mta?17:38
yofelnot really, mail account not configured?17:39
shadeslayerdon't think so17:39
shadeslayerhow does one do that?17:39
yofelreportbug --configure17:39
yofelI thiink17:39
* yofel did that 4 years ago the last time17:39
yofelhm... our language settings are broken, like really...17:42
yofelI have $LANGUAGE -> "en_US:de:en"17:42
yofelmy terminal is german...17:42
ScottKWasn't apachelogger going to fix all the language issues?17:43
yofelprobably with 14.04 as ETA17:43
shadeslayerScottK: filed, waiting for bug number17:53
shadeslayerScottK: 71290517:54
ScottKThanks.17:54
shadeslayerokay, off to try and sleep now18:01
yofelgn18:01
shadeslayercya tomorrow18:01
ScottKRiddell: Read the backscroll in #ubuntu-meeting about the donations18:06
shadeslayeryofel: btw can you rebuild marble in about 20 minutes? thx18:06
Quintasanoh wow18:20
QuintasanScottK: They are serious with that, aren't they?18:20
ScottKYes.18:24
Quintasan...18:24
QuintasanWell, not like I expected anything sane.18:24
ScottKWhere's kactivities for 4.10.4 for raring?18:32
ScottKyofel: ^^^18:32
yofeldoesn't exist I think18:33
yofelat least I don't see it anywhere18:33
ScottKDid it get missed or where there no changes?18:37
yofelI believe there were no changes, but I'll re-check to make sure18:37
yofelScottK: nothing changed18:39
ScottKyofel: Thanks.18:39
lordievaderahoneybun: Ping, you around?18:43
ahoneybunlordievader: yep :)18:43
lordievaderahoneybun: Ah ok, do you think anything from this page should be included in the getting involved page? https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/GettingInvolved/Support18:45
ahoneybunit is18:46
lordievaderWhat exactly? Because I can understand why valorie says it is quite double to include it. Most of the things are already mentioned on the page.18:47
ahoneybunI see18:50
lordievaderI think it is better to write a short summary of that include under a tab "Giving Support"18:51
ahoneybunI'm working on it18:52
ahoneybunhttps://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/GettingInvolved18:54
lordievader... Hmm so am i...18:55
ahoneybunoh18:57
ahoneybunlol18:57
lordievaderIt should warn you that I am editing the page.18:58
yofelmoinmoin should do that for you...18:58
lordievaderI mean moinmoin with it... Maybe I should have been clearer.18:59
ahoneybunyea18:59
lordievaderAnyhow, ahoneybun did you make any major changes?18:59
yofeloh, you said It, I read "I" ^^18:59
yofeltoo hot today -.-18:59
ahoneybunremoved some of that include18:59
lordievaderahoneybun: I removed it all thogether, do you mind if I overwrite your change?19:00
ahoneybundid you see my changes?19:00
lordievaderDoesn't Moinmoin have version control?19:01
lordievaderBtw it seems we where both almost doing the same thing, just in the details the change was different.19:02
yofelit does19:02
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lordievaderahoneybun: May I overwrite your changes?19:07
ahoneybunmake them then we will compare19:08
lordievaderWith 'make them' you mean save?19:08
ahoneybunyea19:12
lordievaderahoneybun: Ok, saved it.19:13
ahoneybunwhy is it such a mess now19:16
lordievaderOk, removed the Conflict messages.19:25
soeeyo19:27
ahoneybunI still see them19:27
yofelmeh, dh_python2 can't seem to handle games :S19:28
Quintasanshadeslayer: bor, kde-window-manager-gles works here, albeit no compositing19:33
lordievaderahoneybun: Not sure if you have said something, was messing with irssi settings. Thought it went wrong at some point.19:35
ahoneybunlordievader: I still see the messagess19:36
lordievaderGuess I only previewed it, saved it now.19:36
Quintasansoee: hi19:37
Quintasanyofel: You don't happen to know if nvidia drivers have opengles magic?19:38
yofelnot offhand, no19:38
yofelhaven't really tried it19:38
Quintasanthe gles binaries here19:39
Quintasanbitch about19:39
Quintasankwinactive(5727)/kwin KWin::OpenGLBackend::setFailed: Creating the OpenGL rendering failed:  "Required support for binding pixmaps to EGLImages not found, disabling compositing" 19:39
lordievaderahoneybun: I think the Getting Involved page is now in a good shape :)19:44
Quintasanyofel: Any reason for not using pkgconfig in kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer?19:46
yofelQuintasan: check what it's used for first19:46
Quintasan>-- Could NOT find PkgConfig (missing:  PKG_CONFIG_EXECUTABLE) 19:47
QuintasanThat's what cmake looks for19:47
yofelmaybe it's hiding something else missing19:47
ahoneybunlordievader: nice :)19:47
Quintasannot that it fails without that19:47
yofelif not, theen it shouldn't be there in the first place19:47
ahoneybunlordievader: very nice19:47
yofellol? kdepimlibs doesn't build19:47
lordievaderahoneybun: Have you taken a look a the page?19:48
ahoneybunlordievader: yes I marked it as finished19:48
QuintasanCRAP19:49
Quintasanyofel: never, ever, issue pbuilder clean19:49
Quintasanwithout params I think19:49
lordievaderahoneybun: Nice, nice :D19:49
Quintasanit just removed my chroots19:49
ScottKyofel: Can you look at making sure https://launchpadlibrarian.net/142964992/raring-debdiff is included in the 4.10.4 upload for raring-proposed?19:49
ahoneybunlordievader: now onto the install page!19:49
Quintasansheytan: hey19:50
lordievaderahoneybun: How are the screenshots standing?19:50
yofelScottK: it is, for the simple reason that libkdcraw wasn't updated19:51
yofelthat'll probably be in 4.10.519:51
ScottKyofel: Excellent.  Thanks.19:51
ScottKI checked and it's not upstream yet.19:52
ScottKsomeone with commit access should fix that.19:52
yofelah ok19:52
ahoneybunlordievader: I have the base images there19:52
lordievaderahoneybun: Ok, nice.19:53
ahoneybunyep19:53
Esokratesi keep having this issue that appears completely randomly: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=32138919:53
ubottuKDE bug 321389 in general "Application: Plasma Desktop Shell (plasma-desktop), signal: Segmentation fault Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1"." [Crash,Unconfirmed]19:53
Esokrateshappens every week several times, I have installed the latest official kubuntu packages19:54
sheytanQuintasan: hey19:55
ScottKyofel: It's fixed in trunk for 4.11, just not in 4.10.19:56
ScottK(or 4.9 or 4.8)19:56
yofelis the security update done for 12.10 and 12.04 as well?19:57
ScottKIt's done for 12.04 and I've submitted debdiffs to the security team for 12.10/13.04.19:58
yofelok, I'll update the backports19:58
ScottKSee #1193065 19:59
Quintasanyofel: adding pkg-config doesn't break anything there20:01
yofelyeah, but does it actually *add* something?20:02
QuintasanTruth be told - no freaking idea20:02
yofelhm20:03
yofelQuintasan: add it I guess. I have no problem with it being there20:07
yofelQuintasan: do the same for kdesdk while at it20:08
ScottKWhoever has libkdcraw 4.10.80 ready to go, please update from bzr.20:09
ScottKyofel: Is that you too?20:09
yofelwell, I can update it, but I don't see any changes in bzr?20:11
yofelah, ok, read the log now. updating20:12
ScottKShould be just a changelog entry at this point.20:14
yofelright20:15
yofelwill this break something? libgpgme++-pth was suddenly renamed to libgpgme++-pthread in saucy20:17
yofel(it's shipped as part of libgpgme++2)20:17
ScottKYes.20:18
ScottKIt's been discussed in Debian.20:18
yofeloh?20:18
ScottKI'd ask svuorela20:19
ScottKI don't recall the details or the resolution.20:19
yofelhm, so from what I see debian simply removed it...20:33
yofelanyway, I'll ask20:33
Quintasan<scarpino> cmake modules fallback to pkg-config20:37
Quintasan<scarpino> e.g. for HINTS20:37
Quintasanyofel: ^20:37
yofelwhat's HINTS? ^^20:38
yofelthough, if the cmake modules expect it to be there, then something more common should pull pkg-config in20:38
yofelI marked kdepimlibs to be stuck on debian bug 710140 for the time being20:44
ubottuDebian bug 710140 in libgpgme11 "[Fwd: About gpgme1.0 (1.4.1-0.1) and libpth-dev]" [Serious,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/71014020:44
Quintasanyofel: Presumably kget is to be left as orange due to that20:48
yofelright20:48
* Quintasan looks at kopte20:50
Quintasan>W: kopete: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames20:50
Quintasanoh wow20:50
Quintasanyofel: any ideas why korundum on i386 is orange?20:51
yofelhm, I told smartboyhw to whitelist that soname thing...20:52
Quintasanoh the override in lintian is 4.6.020:52
Quintasanupgrading that20:53
Quintasantalking about krfb now20:53
yofelI didn't mean overriding20:53
yofelI mean whitelisting in the status script marking20:53
ScottKFixing the override is good.20:54
yofelwell, true20:54
yofelQuintasan: korundum is orange because "No lintian output in build log."20:54
yofelsome of the bindings don't use debian-qt-kde.mk20:55
yofel(so currently those cannot be green)20:56
Quintasanyofel: lintian-overrides in krfb can be dropped I think20:57
Quintasandebian/lintian-overrides20:57
Quintasangah20:57
Quintasandebian/source/lintian-overrides20:58
yofelprobably, I dropped them in a few other places too20:58
yofel(that's probably the debug-package-missing-depends thing)20:58
Quintasankdenetwork source: dbg-package-missing-depends kdenetwork-dbg20:58
Quintasanyeah20:58
Quintasancan be dropped since it's recommends now20:58
yofelwait20:58
yofelah ok, it's depends. drop it20:59
yofelif it were recommends you would have to keep it20:59
QuintasanRecommends: kde-workspace-dbg20:59
QuintasanBreaks: kdenetwork-dbg20:59
yofelthat's unrelated21:00
yofelthe relevant part is krfb (= ${binary:Version})21:00
yofel(the override is wrong anyway, it would have to read "krfb source: dbg-package-missing-depends krfb-dbg" to have any effect"21:00
Quintasanurgh21:01
Quintasanwat21:04
Quintasankdesdk-strigi-analyzers21:04
QuintasanWAT21:04
* Quintasan retries21:04
yofelo.O21:05
Quintasanit built fine last time21:08
Quintasanand now it fails21:08
Quintasanwhat21:08
Quintasankind21:08
Quintasanof magic is that21:08
QuintasanI'm stumped now21:10
Quintasanyofel: Think it may be related to adding pkg config to kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer?21:13
yofelthat would be... weird21:15
* Quintasan makes sure he didn't make any mistakes there21:17
yofelcould be something from the archive too like with pimlibs21:18
Quintasanwhat the hell21:19
Quintasan..21:20
Quintasanyofel: missing libstreamanalyzer-dev21:20
Quintasanwonder why it worked before21:20
yofelyeah, me too...21:20
Quintasanyofel: do you run the status script manually it runs automagically?21:25
yofelthat's a 15min cronjob21:25
yofel(5 min before each run it pulls from bzr)21:25
Quintasanyofel: What can be green should be green now21:31
yofelyay21:40
Riddellhow's .80 doing?22:17
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yofelRiddell: I think we're mostly done, except for marble(-qt) and kdepimlibs (broken by some lib)22:57
QuintasanThere are some oragne entries but I might fix them later on23:02
Quintasanneed to go to bed23:02
* Riddell runs ./kubuntu-initial-upload23:09
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yofelRiddell: for?23:12
yofelhm, korundum builds for me until 0f587bd380d8abc02227b518799dff18881d361923:27
* yofel looks for pino23:30
Riddellhmm when did kdepimlibs break?23:32
Riddellyofel: whyever would that commit stop korundum? it's about smokenepomuk not akonadi or okular23:36
Riddellkorundum is one weird package23:36
* Riddell uploads kde4libs 4.10.80 to saucy23:37
yofelRiddell: kdepimlibs broke due to an upload of libgpgme yesterday23:38
Riddellbah23:38
Riddellbzr: ERROR: Tag saucy already exists.23:39
Riddellhmm, ./kubuntu-archive-upload fail23:39
yofelgrumpy pino...23:46
yofelat least I think I've got korundum almost fixed23:49
Riddellyofel: oh?23:55
yofelRiddell: I'll commit this as it seems to work for me: http://paste.kde.org/77930623:56
juancarlospaco:)23:58
Riddellcool23:58

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