=== BTCOxygen is now known as Guest99256 === BTCOxygen|1 is now known as BTCOxygen === CookedChef is now known as Chef === Chef is now known as CookedChef [01:04] hi === viv`d is now known as vivid [01:15] change the desktop image, but also affect the image of the login screen, and now it looks white and I can not restore it to original state, which I do now? [01:15] i am trying to boot from the live usb, but with "nomodeset" how do i do that? [01:19] change the desktop image, but also affect the image of the login screen, and now it looks white and I can not restore it to original state, which I do now? [01:19] i am trying to boot from the live usb, but with "nomodeset" how do i do that? [01:23] i am trying to boot from the live usb, but with "nomodeset" how do i do that? [01:24] Hello ALL: Would UBUNTU 13.04 + KDE=KUBUNTU 13.04? [01:25] i am trying to boot from the live usb, but with "nomodeset" how do i do that? [01:30] i am trying to boot from the live usb, but with "nomodeset" how do i do that? [01:32] Everyone must be out to dinner. :-) [01:32] mpsan: last time i was here, there was always someone around [01:32] very quite tonight [01:33] It is not quiet on UBUNTU [01:35] I was trying 13.04 and the screen is garbage after a few ICONS. 12.10 is fine and so is UBUNTU [02:17] I'm still not sure about installing [02:19] I don't want the 2nd OS to install grub because I will experiment on it , installing binary video drivers etc... newer kernels etc. [02:19] and if I hose the OS, it won't boot anything ,right? [02:20] so, how can I have original OS (Kubuntu) handle bootloading (as now?) [02:20] I think two ways, can you tell me if this sounds right? [02:20] 1) don't install grub after 2nd OS install... then run grub-install [02:20] 2) install grub to /boot or somewhere else other than MBR? or is that wrong? anybody know? [02:21] or 3) after, I can re-install grub and pick /dev/sda ? [02:24] I got a problem [02:25] I did a guided install ( 50% of HDD to Windows 7, the rest to Kubuntu) [02:25] But for some reason, I don't think the MBR was properly configured [02:25] Grub doesn't start and instead it just goes straight to Windows 7 bootloader [02:25] Kubuntu version is 13.04 [02:26] Is there any way to fix or perhaps reconfigure grub? [02:38] Foxhoundz: boot your computer with the disc/usb you install kubuntu with and "sudo apt-get reinstall grub"? [02:39] is...is that a question/ [02:39] ?* [02:39] I'm thinking out load I guess ;) [02:42] I've installed Boot-repair via live cd [02:42] doing the "recommended repair" [02:42] looks like it's installing grub [02:42] might fix it! [02:43] Nope... [02:43] "Grub is still present" it says [02:44] but grub might be misconfigured [02:44] did you install kubuntu then windows? [02:45] Windows then Kubuntu [02:45] odd [02:45] I'm using the advanced option to try to restore MBR [02:45] it's generating a bootinfo sunmmar [02:45] summary [02:46] I'll link it in a sec [02:46] send me a pastie of the command fdisk -l [02:49] didn't work === kubuntu is now known as Guest61943 [02:51] did not give you anything? [02:52] try "sudo update-grub" [02:52] ahoneybun: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5782374/ [02:52] fdisk -l output [02:53] It went back to windows 7 again [02:53] ok so ubuntu is on sda5 [02:54] Foxhoundz: try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/98962/ubuntu-11-10-not-showing-up-in-grub-bootloader-after-update-and-restart [02:56] I got this on the last command /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow [02:57] But I still rebooted and it worked! [02:57] got it? [02:57] yeah [02:57] it worked [02:57] thanks [02:57] sweet [02:57] np ;) [02:57] Someone should really report this as a regression, however [02:57] it looks like grub wasn't installed [02:57] Foxhoundz: it is hard to know what will happen on every computer [02:57] really? [02:59] thats odd [03:00] As far as the machine goes, it's a pretty widely used intel based Mobo/CPU [03:00] I've never encountered something like this before [03:00] oh well [03:01] Foxhoundz: that usually happens to me if I install Kubuntu then Windows [03:03] Foxhoundz: well your up and running so thats good [03:10] Another problem! [03:12] Installing proprietary drivers for my AMD GPU also comes with an annoying watermark [03:51] hi foxhound [03:53] I have read about fixing the watermark prob before... I think there's a script [04:01] why does it appear though? [04:04] hello [04:05] is posible change the home button en kubuntu 12.04? [04:05] i dont want the K [04:05] or another color [04:06] Costeelation: you don't have to use kickoff [04:06] there are other launchers [04:07] homerun, launcelot, and others [04:07] oh well i will search :) [04:09] valorie: the default launcher is kickoff? [04:09] yes [04:09] also, you can hide the taskbar if you want [04:09] if you just don't want to look at it [04:12] oh well, I was watching launcelot and look amazing, what you use? [04:12] I just use kickoff, but lancelot has a lot of enthusiastic fans [04:13] as does homerun [04:13] I like the blue K [04:13] :-) [04:14] oh is cute :) [04:15] and you know how move the buttons minimize maximize and close to the left? [04:15] like as ubuntu [04:15] i am newbie in kde :) [04:16] you can move anything anywhere you like [04:16] do you mean the toolbar? [04:17] you can have more than one, have it one top, on either side, on the bottom, and even hidden until you hover over the edge [04:17] yes for example in ubuntu the close button (for close a window) is in the left [04:17] click on the little cashew symbol and plat [04:17] oh, window decoration [04:17] right [04:18] i think that's in system settings [04:18] maybe i will search too === BTCOxygen is now known as Guest85290 === BTCOxygen|1 is now known as BTCOxygen === BTCOxygen is now known as Guest71653 === BTCOxygen|1 is now known as BTCOxygen [06:41] I left my machine alone all night and all day (up early and out of town all day) and now plasma-desktop is at 106% of CPU. Wtf? Some googling turns up issues back around ubuntu version 11 with plasma-desktop staying at 25%, but not 106%. [06:42] :puff I know I have experienced that more than once [06:44] you might try top or htop in the konsole and see what's going on exactly [07:01] puff`, it is desktop or laptop ? === Guest34321 is now known as nerdtron [08:19] I've got 2 extra monitors showing, that don't exist. I have no idea where they came from, I certainly didn't configure them... [08:19] anyone know how to delete 'em [08:25] thelionroars: in system settings [08:25] move the little button over to remove them in system settings > monitor [08:26] in the middle of the screen picture? hmm I'll keep trying [08:26] I had this problem today too [08:26] I wonder if we've exposed a bug [08:27] I have a laptop, and no extra monitor [08:28] I actually had to press and hold it, instead of sliding it [08:28] and the configuration had to be in default position, otherwise I was moving it around [08:29] laptop as well [08:29] should be on the intel driver [08:29] my laptop I mean === gilbert_ is now known as goodtime [08:50] valorie: I tried top, that's how I know plasma-desktop is at 106% (still is). [08:50] soee: It's a thinkpad t520 laptop. [08:56] Hm, I tried the advice at http://en.kioskea.net/faq/6563-kde4-plasma-desktop-issues and now plasma-desktop isn't at 106% in top, xorg is! === puff` is now known as puff === BTCOxygen is now known as Guest10072 === BTCOxygen|1 is now known as BTCOxygen === BTCOxygen|1 is now known as BTCOxygen [09:32] Where do I find the documentation for krusader? (krusader/index.html) I guess it's in a separate package? [09:48] how to i set to boot with "nomodeset" when booting from a live memory stick? [09:56] how to i set to boot with "nomodeset" when booting from a live memory stick? [10:02] how to i set to boot with "nomodeset" when booting from a live memory stick? [10:04] how to i set to boot with "nomodeset" when booting from a live memory stick? [10:20] how to enable boot with nomodeset when booting from a live usb? === GGGGEEO is now known as Esokrates === gilbert__ is now known as goodtime [10:43] hi there [10:44] can anyone help me getting my system booting again? [10:44] bootrepair didnt finish and gave me this link [10:44] but i cant make sense of it [10:45] http://paste.ubuntu.com/5783088/ [10:50] how to enable boot with nomodeset when booting from a live usb? [10:51] MoinZen: Does the system freeze? [10:51] Hello! [10:51] Hey BigWig_ [10:52] So, something really strange happened. I ran sudo apt-get -f and it removed tons of necessary stuff. [10:52] LIke muon! [10:52] Can someone explain what I did? [10:53] !pm | MoinZen [10:53] MoinZen: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first. [10:53] BigWig_: Did you try to install something that conflicts with allmost everything on the system [10:53] ? [10:53] the message i get is: "error: file `/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod`not found." [10:54] MoinZen: Have you tried re installing grub from a live-session? [10:54] not yet [10:54] MoinZen: Try that first. [10:55] ok thanks .. i hope that will fix my windows 8 boot aswell [10:56] Win8 is know to be a pita in dual-booting... Hope you fix it! [10:56] Man, dual booting on one hard drive sucks [10:56] I got a seperate hard drive for my Windows instalation [10:57] yeah me too [10:58] on fine installation of windows 8 on one ssd and kubuntu on another ssd .. both well configured .. except.. neither will boot :( [10:58] That is really weird [10:58] I'm not quite sure what I did, but all of this stuff has probably broken: http://pastebin.com/YdLy9p10 [10:58] What do I do D: [10:59] BigWig_: Is the package 'kubuntu-desktop' still installed? [11:00] yeah, that is still there [11:00] kubuntu-settings-desktop isn't there, does that matter? [11:01] !info kubuntu-settings-desktop [11:01] kubuntu-settings-desktop (source: kubuntu-settings): Settings and artwork for the Kubuntu (Desktop). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:13.04ubuntu13 (raring), package size 73 kB, installed size 717 kB [11:01] No that is optional. [11:02] Any idea how to easily get out of this predicament? [11:02] BigWig_: Can you check the /var/log/apt/history file for what apt tried to fix with the -f flag? [11:02] Hiyas all [11:03] Hey BluesKaj [11:04] hey lordievader [11:06] here is that little snippit [11:06] pastebin.com/msZDRALC [11:06] Lordievader: how are my chances that the re install of grub will make both my os bootable? [11:06] Is that what caused it? [11:07] MoinZen: If it will fix Win8 I have no idea, never played with Win8. Let alone a dual boot. For Linux it should fix it. [11:08] !efi | MoinZen [11:08] MoinZen: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [11:08] BigWig_: Unless python-minimal conflicts with python, then no I don't think that is what caused it. [11:08] how do i enable boot with nomodeset when booting from live usb? [11:09] if you have W8 then your dealing with EFI , MoinZen [11:10] ok.. gotta read that :D but it seems like my idea to install the two os on two ssds and choose via bios wich to boot doesnt go that well :D [11:11] MoinZen, actually you have no bios , you'll understand when you read the post [11:12] One of the packages that got uninstalled was (I'm assuming) necessary to play back videos in VLC. What's happening now is I play a video with audio and no video :( [11:12] Is my assumption correct? If so, what package would I need to reinstall to get that working again? [11:12] BigWig_: I'm sorry I have to go, but I'm sure some one else here will help you ;) [11:12] :( [11:13] BluesKaj: omg.. where did my good ol bios go :O (better read it fast.. :) [11:16] BigWig_, try playing with dragonplayer , just to test , and what is the file extension of the video ? [11:17] how do i enable boot with nomodeset when booting from live usb? [11:18] it's a .mkv [11:18] natacus, look in the options for F key to use [11:18] Dragon player just crashes when I open up the file [11:18] That happened before the bad thing though [11:18] ok , what about other videos , same behaviour ? [11:19] BigWig_,^ [11:19] Yes [11:19] I got it playing by using the open gl output [11:19] BluesKaj: when i get to grub all i see is, start Kubuntu, OEM install or check disk, then c- command line, e - edit. I dont see anything else [11:19] but the screen flickers when it's playing in windowed mode :/ [11:21] ooh, found an option that works [11:21] natacus, that's not grub that's the option page [11:22] you won't get grub on live media [11:22] BigWig_, ok which graphics card ? [11:23] BluesKaj: ok so what do i do, none of the F keys seem to do anything, I should mention this is a win8 laptop ( sony ), but i had zero issues when booting ubuntu from the memory stick [11:23] Radeon Hd 6770 [11:23] Is opengl output in vlc considerably better than x11? If not, then I'm cool just using that :) === luiscuerdo is now known as luis_out [11:24] !efi | natacus [11:24] natacus: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [11:26] BluesKaj: i cant even view the live Kubuntu to see if i want to install it, I was able to view the live ubuntu no problems on the same machine [11:26] BigWig_, use raster with OpenGL , it's still using X no matter what [11:28] natacus, any chance you have cdrom ? [11:28] BluesKaj: i have a cd drive on the laptop [11:29] in the windows8 machine , so you can use a live cd rather than usb [11:30] BluesKaj: yes [11:30] usb media can troublesome [11:31] BluesKaj: but why would ubuntu have zero issues when boot from the usb and kubuntu just shows me that options screen? i have an nvidia card if that makes a difference [11:32] natacus, recommend you burn kubuntu to a live cd , to eliminate the usb problems [11:33] natacus, let's not compare apples and oranges [11:33] BluesKaj: oh didnt know they were that different sorry [11:33] @BluesKaj That worked, thank you :) [11:34] BigWig_, cool [11:36] natacus, ubuntu and kubuntu use the same core/base and kernels etc , but the desktops are much different as are the install images [11:39] BluesKaj: ok, making live DVD now, hope this at least gets me to the desktop! === jw is now known as davyprince [11:52] BluesKaj: hey again, tried with the live DVD nothing, i get to a screen called "GNU GRUB 2" with three options "start kubuntu - i pick that and screen goes black and nothing", the others are install OEM and check disk [11:55] suggest you read the URL about EFI that I posted earlier , natacus ..my experience with EFI is very limited since I don't have it myself , but it surprises me about the lack of options. [12:03] BluesKaj: hey again, tried with the live DVD nothing, i get to a screen called "GNU GRUB 2" with three options "start kubuntu - i pick that and screen goes black and nothing", the others are install OEM and check disk [12:03] suggest you read the URL about EFI that I posted earlier , natacus ..my experience with EFI is very limited since I don't have it myself , but it surprises me about the lack of options. [12:04] BluesKaj: could it be just a gfx card issue? [12:04] !efi | natacus [12:04] natacus: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [12:05] natacus, doubt that it's graphics , you have an options page [12:06] BluesKaj: ok seems weird, there are no options and ubuntu just worked out of the box [12:13] natacus, looks like the live-dvd goes directly to the try-kubuntu option then loads the desktop ? [12:15] ok reinstalling grub didnt work [12:16] is there a good guid on how to install windows 8 and kubuntu on two seperate drives and somehow (grub, windowsboot manager, efi) choose wich to boot? [12:19] MoinZen, don't think 2 different drives matters much , grub will still see the installed OSs , recommend you read this tutorial and treat the separate drive as another partition , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [12:20] BluesKaj: ok thx [12:23] MoinZen, I have separate hdd with windows 7 ,and installed grub on the other drive with kubuntu and grub saw windows drive from the start [12:24] BluesKaj: no, when i tried the live dvd, i just get a screen with three choices, start kubuntu, OEM install and check disk - pressing any of these results in a blank screen [12:24] MoinZen, just make sure you run sudo update-grub in kubuntu if windows doesn't show up after the first boot [12:26] BluesKaj: right now everything seems pretty messy .. so i gonna reinstall everything ... fresh and new.. first windows 8 then kubuntu and then i run sudo update-grub after the fresh installation [12:26] natacus, I have no idea what's wrong [12:27] BluesKaj: ok ty anyway [12:27] natacus, does W8 boot ok ? [12:27] BluesKaj: yes boots fine [12:28] BluesKaj: i have yet to install linux at all, i just want to see the live version [12:35] how do you protect your host address from being visible? [12:36] James_m: on IRC? You can ask for a cloak in #freenode [12:36] thanks === frank is now known as frank_ === frank_ is now known as frank === christian is now known as Guest88535 === Guest88535 is now known as crodriguez === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off === waleed is now known as waleed__ === Doctor is now known as Guest30137 [15:27] Bom dia === akshay__ is now known as akshay_r [16:11] Good evening. === christian is now known as Guest90551 === Guest90551 is now known as crodriguez === Doctor is now known as Guest72537 === ubuntu is now known as Guest11025 === gilbert_ is now known as goodtime [17:47] irc.darksin.it === francisco is now known as Guest74254 === sebastian is now known as Hobeditz === gilbert_ is now known as goodtime === away is now known as twss === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh === stephane is now known as Guest41358 [23:37] I have a new laptop with " 500 GB HDD + 8 GB SSD [23:37] The SSD module is dedicated for system responsiveness and not available for file storage. === hanoverphano is now known as phanohanover [23:38] will it be difficult to get linux set up? [23:39] natacus, install your system to ssd, and your /home with userdata on your HDD [23:40] OerHeks: i am trying to dual boot, laptop is win8 installed, i would like to keep both, [23:40] you can install complete kubuntu to your ssd and move your /home later, or choose manually partitioning. [23:41] oh, then you need to make space within windows 8 [23:41] OerHeks: am i in for a world of trouble :P [23:41] diskmanagment, and choose to decrease the volume on SSD, 10 gb will be enough i think [23:42] or more if you have space [23:43] and win8 .. you might have UEFI [23:43] i can get live kubuntu working froma usb stick [23:44] but i think i only have an 8gb ssd + 500gb hdd [23:45] I am not sure what will be an usefull minimum for / [23:46] (=root) [23:47] what does win8 d=say about your ssd, when you want to decrease the volume? win7 would give a max number. [23:48] OerHeks: i cant find any details in win 8 about my ssd partition [23:50] OerHeks: it tells me the following from my specs page on the webiste : The SSD module is dedicated for system responsiveness and not available for file storage [23:50] I have no idea what that means [23:50] i guess it acts as a big swap for windows [23:51] ok thanks, will eat some biscuits and have a think :P [23:51] thanks for the help [23:51] so the safest way will be installing on your hdd, i hope kubuntu leaves that ssd alone [23:51] natacus: I have kub on my ssd, and /home on my HD along with windows [23:51] win7 though, so I didn't have to fight with eufi [23:52] or whatever that is [23:52] uefi I think [23:52] I am lazy, run Kubuntu from ssd and have an HDD mounted for music and stuff [23:52] but no other OS [23:53] windows was already there, and I thought at some point I might be able to test amarok in windows [23:53] so far, not time to do that [23:54] Is there a way i can install, keep win8 as it is atm quick to boot and all, and also have the same for Kubuntu [23:54] I've never booted into windows, but the HD is huge, so what the heck [23:54] natacus: sure [23:54] however, you'll have to deal with the uefi [23:54] !efi [23:54] UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware, it is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [23:55] valorie: ya but what gets installed on the small 8gb ssd, there is not enough room for win8+linux [23:55] no, you're right [23:56] kub starts up pretty quickly on an HD [23:56] just a tick faster on the ssd [23:56] ok, will prob be back later for more advice, thanks everyone! [23:56] night