[01:04] <mauricioyaman> hi
[01:15] <mauricioyaman> change the desktop image, but also affect the image of the login screen, and now it looks white and I can not restore it to original state, which I do now?
[01:15] <natacus> i am trying to boot from the live usb, but with "nomodeset" how do i do that?
[01:19] <mauricioyaman_> change the desktop image, but also affect the image of the login screen, and now it looks white and I can not restore it to original state, which I do now?
[01:19] <natacus> i am trying to boot from the live usb, but with "nomodeset" how do i do that?
[01:23] <natacus|2> i am trying to boot from the live usb, but with "nomodeset" how do i do that?
[01:24] <mpsan> Hello ALL: Would UBUNTU 13.04 + KDE=KUBUNTU 13.04?
[01:25] <natacus|2> i am trying to boot from the live usb, but with "nomodeset" how do i do that?
[01:30] <natacus|2> i am trying to boot from the live usb, but with "nomodeset" how do i do that?
[01:32] <mpsan> Everyone must be out to dinner.  :-)
[01:32] <natacus|2> mpsan: last time i was here, there was always someone around
[01:32] <natacus|2> very quite tonight
[01:33] <mpsan> It is not quiet on UBUNTU
[01:35] <mpsan> I was trying 13.04 and the screen is garbage after a few ICONS. 12.10 is fine and so is UBUNTU
[02:17] <kdef> I'm still not sure about installing
[02:19] <kdef> I don't want the 2nd OS to install grub because I will experiment on it , installing binary video drivers etc... newer kernels etc.
[02:19] <kdef> and if I hose the OS, it won't boot anything ,right?
[02:20] <kdef> so, how can I have original OS (Kubuntu) handle bootloading (as now?)
[02:20] <kdef> I think two ways, can you tell me if this sounds right?
[02:20] <kdef> 1) don't install grub after 2nd OS install... then run grub-install
[02:20] <kdef> 2) install grub to /boot or somewhere else other than MBR?   or is that wrong?  anybody know?
[02:21] <kdef> or 3) after, I can re-install grub and pick /dev/sda ?
[02:24] <Foxhoundz> I got a problem
[02:25] <Foxhoundz> I did a guided install ( 50% of HDD to Windows 7, the rest to Kubuntu)
[02:25] <Foxhoundz> But for some reason, I don't think the MBR was properly configured
[02:25] <Foxhoundz> Grub doesn't start and instead it just goes straight to Windows 7 bootloader
[02:25] <Foxhoundz> Kubuntu version is 13.04
[02:26] <Foxhoundz> Is there any way to fix or perhaps reconfigure grub?
[02:38] <ahoneybun> Foxhoundz: boot your computer with the disc/usb you install kubuntu with and "sudo apt-get reinstall grub"?
[02:39] <Foxhoundz> is...is that a question/
[02:39] <Foxhoundz> ?*
[02:39] <ahoneybun> I'm thinking out load I guess ;)
[02:42] <Foxhoundz> I've installed Boot-repair via live cd
[02:42] <Foxhoundz> doing the "recommended repair"
[02:42] <Foxhoundz> looks like it's installing grub
[02:42] <Foxhoundz> might fix it!
[02:43] <Foxhoundz> Nope...
[02:43] <Foxhoundz> "Grub is still present" it says
[02:44] <ahoneybun> but grub might be misconfigured
[02:44] <ahoneybun> did you install kubuntu then windows?
[02:45] <Foxhoundz> Windows then Kubuntu
[02:45] <ahoneybun> odd
[02:45] <Foxhoundz> I'm using the advanced option to try to restore MBR
[02:45] <Foxhoundz> it's generating a bootinfo sunmmar
[02:45] <Foxhoundz> summary
[02:46] <Foxhoundz> I'll link it in a sec
[02:46] <ahoneybun> send me a pastie of the command fdisk -l
[02:49] <Foxhoundz> didn't work
[02:51] <ahoneybun> did not give you anything?
[02:52] <ahoneybun> try "sudo update-grub"
[02:52] <Foxhoundz> ahoneybun: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5782374/
[02:52] <Foxhoundz> fdisk -l output
[02:53] <Foxhoundz> It went back to windows 7 again
[02:53] <ahoneybun> ok so ubuntu is on sda5
[02:54] <ahoneybun> Foxhoundz: try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/98962/ubuntu-11-10-not-showing-up-in-grub-bootloader-after-update-and-restart
[02:56] <Foxhoundz> I got this on the last command /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow
[02:57] <Foxhoundz> But I still rebooted and it worked!
[02:57] <ahoneybun> got it?
[02:57] <Foxhoundz> yeah
[02:57] <Foxhoundz> it worked
[02:57] <Foxhoundz> thanks
[02:57] <ahoneybun> sweet
[02:57] <ahoneybun> np ;)
[02:57] <Foxhoundz> Someone should really report this as a regression, however
[02:57] <Foxhoundz> it looks like grub wasn't installed
[02:57] <ahoneybun> Foxhoundz: it is hard to know what will happen on every computer
[02:57] <ahoneybun> really?
[02:59] <ahoneybun> thats odd
[03:00] <Foxhoundz> As far as the machine goes, it's a pretty widely used intel based Mobo/CPU
[03:00] <Foxhoundz> I've never encountered something like this before
[03:00] <Foxhoundz> oh well
[03:01] <ahoneybun> Foxhoundz: that usually happens to me if I install Kubuntu then Windows
[03:03] <ahoneybun> Foxhoundz: well your up and running so thats good
[03:10] <Foxhoundz> Another problem!
[03:12] <Foxhoundz> Installing proprietary drivers for my AMD GPU also comes with an annoying watermark
[03:51] <kdef> hi foxhound
[03:53] <kdef> I have read about fixing the watermark prob before... I think there's a script
[04:01] <Foxhoundz> why does it appear though?
[04:04] <Costeelation> hello
[04:05] <Costeelation> is posible change the home button en kubuntu 12.04?
[04:05] <Costeelation> i dont want the K
[04:05] <Costeelation> or another color
[04:06] <valorie> Costeelation: you don't have to use kickoff
[04:06] <valorie> there are other launchers
[04:07] <valorie> homerun, launcelot, and others
[04:07] <Costeelation> oh well i will search :)
[04:09] <Costeelation> valorie: the default launcher is kickoff?
[04:09] <valorie> yes
[04:09] <valorie> also, you can hide the taskbar if you want
[04:09] <valorie> if you just don't want to look at it
[04:12] <Costeelation> oh well, I was watching launcelot and look amazing, what you use?
[04:12] <valorie> I just use kickoff, but lancelot has a lot of enthusiastic fans
[04:13] <valorie> as does homerun
[04:13] <valorie> I like the blue K
[04:13] <valorie> :-)
[04:14] <Costeelation> oh is cute :)
[04:15] <Costeelation> and you know how move the buttons minimize maximize and close to the left?
[04:15] <Costeelation> like as ubuntu
[04:15] <Costeelation> i am newbie in kde :)
[04:16] <valorie> you can move anything anywhere you like
[04:16] <valorie> do you mean the toolbar?
[04:17] <valorie> you can have more than one, have it one top, on either side, on the bottom, and even hidden until you hover over the edge
[04:17] <Costeelation> yes for example in ubuntu the close button (for close a window) is in the left
[04:17] <valorie> click on the little cashew symbol and plat
[04:17] <valorie> oh, window decoration
[04:17] <Costeelation> right
[04:18] <valorie> i think that's in system settings
[04:18] <Costeelation> maybe i will search too
[06:41] <puff`> I left my machine alone all night and all day (up early and out of town all day) and now plasma-desktop is at 106% of CPU.  Wtf?  Some googling turns up issues back around ubuntu version 11 with plasma-desktop staying at 25%, but not 106%.
[06:42] <bigbrovar> :puff I know I have experienced that more than once
[06:44] <valorie> you might try top or htop in the konsole and see what's going on exactly
[07:01] <soee> puff`, it is desktop or laptop ?
[08:19] <thelionroars> I've got 2 extra monitors showing, that don't exist. I have no idea where they came from, I certainly didn't configure them...
[08:19] <thelionroars> anyone know how to delete 'em
[08:25] <valorie> thelionroars: in system settings
[08:25] <valorie> move the little button over to remove them in system settings > monitor
[08:26] <thelionroars> in the middle of the screen picture? hmm I'll keep trying
[08:26] <valorie> I had this problem today too
[08:26] <valorie> I wonder if we've exposed a bug
[08:27] <valorie> I have a laptop, and no extra monitor
[08:28] <thelionroars> I actually had to press and hold it, instead of sliding it
[08:28] <thelionroars> and the configuration had to be in default position, otherwise I was moving it around
[08:29] <thelionroars> laptop as well
[08:29] <thelionroars> should be on the intel driver
[08:29] <thelionroars> my laptop I mean
[08:50] <puff`> valorie:  I tried top, that's how I know plasma-desktop is at 106% (still is).
[08:50] <puff`> soee: It's a thinkpad t520 laptop.
[08:56] <puff`> Hm, I tried the advice at http://en.kioskea.net/faq/6563-kde4-plasma-desktop-issues and now plasma-desktop isn't at 106% in top, xorg is!
[09:32] <blueyed> Where do I find the documentation for krusader? (krusader/index.html) I guess it's in a separate package?
[09:48] <natacus> how to i set to boot with "nomodeset" when booting from a live memory stick?
[09:56] <natacus> how to i set to boot with "nomodeset" when booting from a live memory stick?
[10:02] <natacus> how to i set to boot with "nomodeset" when booting from a live memory stick?
[10:04] <natacus> how to i set to boot with "nomodeset" when booting from a live memory stick?
[10:20] <natacus> how to enable boot with nomodeset when booting from a live usb?
[10:43] <MoinZen> hi there
[10:44] <MoinZen> can anyone help me getting my system booting again?
[10:44] <MoinZen> bootrepair didnt finish and gave me this link
[10:44] <MoinZen> but i cant make sense of it
[10:45] <MoinZen> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5783088/
[10:50] <natacus> how to enable boot with nomodeset when booting from a live usb?
[10:51] <lordievader> MoinZen: Does the system freeze?
[10:51] <BigWig_> Hello!
[10:51] <lordievader> Hey BigWig_
[10:52] <BigWig_> So, something really strange happened. I ran sudo apt-get -f and it removed tons of necessary stuff.
[10:52] <BigWig_> LIke muon!
[10:52] <BigWig_> Can someone explain what I did?
[10:53] <lordievader> !pm | MoinZen
[10:53] <lordievader> BigWig_: Did you try to install something that conflicts with allmost everything on the system
[10:53] <lordievader> ?
[10:53] <MoinZen> the message i get is: "error: file `/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod`not found."
[10:54] <lordievader> MoinZen: Have you tried re installing grub from a live-session?
[10:54] <MoinZen> not yet
[10:54] <lordievader> MoinZen: Try that first.
[10:55] <MoinZen> ok thanks .. i hope that will fix my windows 8 boot aswell
[10:56] <lordievader> Win8 is know to be a pita in dual-booting... Hope you fix it!
[10:56] <RaymondTracer> Man, dual booting on one hard drive sucks
[10:56] <RaymondTracer> I got a seperate hard drive for my Windows instalation
[10:57] <MoinZen> yeah me too
[10:58] <MoinZen> on fine installation of windows 8 on one ssd and kubuntu on another ssd .. both well configured .. except.. neither will boot :(
[10:58] <RaymondTracer> That is really weird
[10:58] <BigWig_> I'm not quite sure what I did, but all of this stuff has probably broken: http://pastebin.com/YdLy9p10
[10:58] <BigWig_> What do I do D:
[10:59] <lordievader> BigWig_: Is the package 'kubuntu-desktop' still installed?
[11:00] <BigWig_> yeah, that is still there
[11:00] <BigWig_> kubuntu-settings-desktop isn't there, does that matter?
[11:01] <lordievader> !info kubuntu-settings-desktop
[11:01] <lordievader> No that is optional.
[11:02] <BigWig_> Any idea how to easily get out of this predicament?
[11:02] <lordievader> BigWig_: Can you check the /var/log/apt/history file for what apt tried to fix with the -f flag?
[11:02] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:03] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj
[11:04] <BluesKaj> hey lordievader
[11:06] <BigWig_> here is that little snippit
[11:06] <BigWig_> pastebin.com/msZDRALC
[11:06] <MoinZen> Lordievader: how are my chances that the re install of grub will make both my os bootable?
[11:06] <BigWig_> Is that what caused it?
[11:07] <lordievader> MoinZen: If it will fix Win8 I have no idea, never played with Win8. Let alone a dual boot. For Linux it should fix it.
[11:08] <BluesKaj> !efi | MoinZen
[11:08] <lordievader> BigWig_: Unless python-minimal conflicts with python, then no I don't think that is what caused it.
[11:08] <natacus> how do i enable boot with nomodeset when booting from live usb?
[11:09] <BluesKaj> if you have W8 then your dealing with EFI , MoinZen
[11:10] <MoinZen> ok.. gotta read that :D but it seems like my idea to install the two os on two ssds and choose via bios wich to boot doesnt go that well :D
[11:11] <BluesKaj> MoinZen, actually you have no bios , you'll understand when you read the post
[11:12] <BigWig_> One of the packages that got uninstalled was (I'm assuming) necessary to play back videos in VLC. What's happening now is I play a video with audio and no video :(
[11:12] <BigWig_> Is my assumption correct? If so, what package would I need to reinstall to get that working again?
[11:12] <lordievader> BigWig_: I'm sorry I have to go, but I'm sure some one else here will help you ;)
[11:12] <BigWig_> :(
[11:13] <MoinZen> BluesKaj: omg.. where did my good ol bios go :O (better read it fast.. :)
[11:16] <BluesKaj> BigWig_, try playing with dragonplayer , just to test , and what is the file extension of the video ?
[11:17] <natacus> how do i enable boot with nomodeset when booting from live usb?
[11:18] <BigWig_> it's a .mkv
[11:18] <BluesKaj> natacus, look in the options for F key to use
[11:18] <BigWig_> Dragon player just crashes when I open up the file
[11:18] <BigWig_> That happened before the bad thing though
[11:18] <BluesKaj> ok , what about other videos , same behaviour ?
[11:19] <BluesKaj> BigWig_,^
[11:19] <BigWig_> Yes
[11:19] <BigWig_> I got it playing by using the open gl output
[11:19] <natacus> BluesKaj: when i get to grub all i see is, start Kubuntu, OEM install or check disk, then c- command line, e - edit. I dont see anything else
[11:19] <BigWig_> but the screen flickers when it's playing in windowed mode :/
[11:21] <BigWig_> ooh, found an option that works
[11:21] <BluesKaj> natacus, that's not grub that's the option page
[11:22] <BluesKaj> you won't get grub on live media
[11:22] <BluesKaj> BigWig_, ok which graphics card ?
[11:23] <natacus> BluesKaj: ok so what do i do, none of the F keys seem to do anything, I should mention this is a win8 laptop ( sony ), but i had zero issues when booting ubuntu from the memory stick
[11:23] <BigWig_> Radeon Hd 6770
[11:23] <BigWig_> Is opengl output in vlc considerably better than x11? If not, then I'm cool just using that :)
[11:24] <BluesKaj> !efi | natacus
[11:26] <natacus> BluesKaj: i cant even view the live Kubuntu to see if i want to install it, I was able to view the live ubuntu no problems on the same machine
[11:26] <BluesKaj> BigWig_, use raster with OpenGL , it's still using X no matter what
[11:28] <BluesKaj> natacus, any chance you have cdrom ?
[11:28] <natacus> BluesKaj: i have a cd drive on the laptop
[11:29] <BluesKaj> in the windows8 machine , so you can use a live cd rather than usb
[11:30] <natacus> BluesKaj: yes
[11:30] <BluesKaj> usb media can troublesome
[11:31] <natacus> BluesKaj: but why would ubuntu have zero issues when boot from the usb and kubuntu just shows me that options screen? i have an nvidia card if that makes a difference
[11:32] <BluesKaj> natacus, recommend you burn kubuntu to a live cd , to eliminate the usb problems
[11:33] <BluesKaj> natacus, let's not compare apples and oranges
[11:33] <natacus> BluesKaj: oh didnt know they were that different sorry
[11:33] <BigWig_> @BluesKaj That worked, thank you :)
[11:34] <BluesKaj> BigWig_, cool
[11:36] <BluesKaj> natacus, ubuntu and kubuntu use the same core/base and kernels etc , but the desktops are much different as are the install images
[11:39] <natacus> BluesKaj: ok, making live DVD now, hope this at least gets me to the desktop!
[11:52] <natacus> BluesKaj: hey again, tried with the live DVD nothing, i get to a screen called "GNU GRUB 2" with three options "start kubuntu - i pick that and screen goes black and nothing", the others are install OEM and check disk
[11:55] <BluesKaj> suggest you read the URL about EFI that I posted earlier , natacus ..my experience with EFI is very limited since I don't have it myself , but it surprises me about the lack of options.
[12:03] <natacus> BluesKaj: hey again, tried with the live DVD nothing, i get to a screen called "GNU GRUB 2" with three options "start kubuntu - i pick that and screen goes black and nothing", the others are install OEM and check disk
[12:03] <BluesKaj> suggest you read the URL about EFI that I posted earlier , natacus ..my experience with EFI is very limited since I don't have it myself , but it surprises me about the lack of options.
[12:04] <natacus> BluesKaj:  could it be just a gfx card issue?
[12:04] <BluesKaj> !efi | natacus
[12:05] <BluesKaj> natacus, doubt that it's graphics , you have an options page
[12:06] <natacus> BluesKaj: ok seems weird, there are no options and ubuntu just worked out of the box
[12:13] <BluesKaj> natacus, looks like the live-dvd goes directly to the try-kubuntu option then loads the desktop ?
[12:15] <MoinZen> ok reinstalling grub didnt work
[12:16] <MoinZen> is there a good guid on how to install windows 8 and kubuntu on two seperate drives and somehow (grub, windowsboot manager, efi) choose wich to boot?
[12:19] <BluesKaj> MoinZen, don't think 2 different drives matters much , grub will still see the installed OSs , recommend you read this tutorial and treat the separate drive as another partition , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[12:20] <MoinZen> BluesKaj: ok thx
[12:23] <BluesKaj> MoinZen, I have separate hdd with windows 7 ,and installed grub on the other drive with kubuntu and grub saw windows drive from the start
[12:24] <natacus> BluesKaj:  no, when i tried the live dvd, i just get a screen with three choices, start kubuntu, OEM install and check disk - pressing any of these results in a blank screen
[12:24] <BluesKaj> MoinZen, just make sure you run sudo update-grub in kubuntu if windows doesn't show up after the first boot
[12:26] <MoinZen> BluesKaj: right now everything seems pretty messy .. so i gonna reinstall everything ... fresh and new.. first windows 8 then kubuntu and then i run sudo update-grub after the fresh installation
[12:26] <BluesKaj> natacus, I have no idea what's wrong
[12:27] <natacus> BluesKaj:  ok ty anyway
[12:27] <BluesKaj> natacus, does W8 boot ok ?
[12:27] <natacus> BluesKaj:  yes boots fine
[12:28] <natacus> BluesKaj:  i have yet to install linux at all, i just want to see the live version
[12:35] <James_m> how do you protect your host address from being visible?
[12:36] <Pici> James_m: on IRC? You can ask for a cloak in #freenode
[12:36] <James_m> thanks
[15:27] <shadowdf> Bom dia
[16:11] <lordievader> Good evening.
[17:47] <Guest11025> irc.darksin.it
[23:37] <natacus> I have a new laptop with " 500 GB HDD + 8 GB SSD
[23:37] <natacus> The SSD module is dedicated for system responsiveness and not available for file storage.
[23:38] <natacus> will it be difficult to get linux set up?
[23:39] <OerHeks> natacus, install your system to ssd, and your /home with userdata on your HDD
[23:40] <natacus> OerHeks: i am trying to dual boot, laptop is win8 installed, i would like to keep both,
[23:40] <OerHeks> you can install complete kubuntu to your ssd and move your /home later, or choose manually partitioning.
[23:41] <OerHeks> oh, then you need to make space within windows 8
[23:41] <natacus> OerHeks: am i in for a world of trouble :P
[23:41] <OerHeks> diskmanagment, and choose to decrease the volume on SSD, 10 gb will be enough i think
[23:42] <OerHeks> or more if you have space
[23:43] <OerHeks> and win8 .. you might have UEFI
[23:43] <natacus> i can get live kubuntu working froma  usb stick
[23:44] <natacus> but i think i only have an 8gb ssd + 500gb hdd
[23:45] <OerHeks> I am not sure what will be an usefull minimum for /
[23:46] <OerHeks> (=root)
[23:47] <OerHeks> what does win8 d=say about your ssd, when you want to decrease the volume? win7 would give a max number.
[23:48] <natacus> OerHeks: i cant find any details in win 8 about my ssd partition
[23:50] <natacus> OerHeks: it tells me the following from my specs page on the webiste : The SSD module is dedicated for system responsiveness and not available for file storage
[23:50] <natacus> I have no idea what that means
[23:50] <OerHeks> i guess it acts as a big swap for windows
[23:51] <natacus> ok thanks, will eat some biscuits and have a think :P
[23:51] <natacus> thanks for the help
[23:51] <OerHeks> so the safest way will be installing on your hdd, i hope kubuntu leaves that ssd alone
[23:51] <valorie> natacus: I have kub on my ssd, and /home on my HD along with windows
[23:51] <valorie> win7 though, so I didn't have to fight with eufi
[23:52] <valorie> or whatever that is
[23:52] <valorie> uefi I think
[23:52] <OerHeks> I am lazy, run Kubuntu from ssd and have an HDD mounted for music and stuff
[23:52] <OerHeks> but no other OS
[23:53] <valorie> windows was already there, and I thought at some point I might be able to test amarok in windows
[23:53] <valorie> so far, not time to do that
[23:54] <natacus> Is there a way i can install, keep win8 as it is atm quick to boot and all, and also have the same for Kubuntu
[23:54] <valorie> I've never booted into windows, but the HD is huge, so what the heck
[23:54] <valorie> natacus: sure
[23:54] <valorie> however, you'll have to deal with the uefi
[23:54] <valorie> !efi
[23:55] <natacus> valorie: ya but what gets installed on the small 8gb ssd, there is not enough room for win8+linux
[23:55] <valorie> no, you're right
[23:56] <valorie> kub starts up pretty quickly on an HD
[23:56] <valorie> just a tick faster on the ssd
[23:56] <natacus> ok, will prob be back later for more advice, thanks everyone!
[23:56] <natacus> night