| cossovich | good morning folks... wondering if anyone knows what's up with au.archive.ubuntu.com? seems like it's been down for a while. | 01:31 |
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| jea | hi cossovich | 01:43 |
| jea | what ISP are you with? | 01:44 |
| cossovich | hey... a couple of different ones (depending on where I'm using my laptop) | 01:44 |
| jea | I have no issues with updating | 01:45 |
| jea | can you access it in a browser? | 01:45 |
| cossovich | I've plugged in the aarnet sources for now | 01:45 |
| jea | If not, can you try accessing http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au? | 01:45 |
| cossovich | oh really. | 01:45 |
| jea | au.archive.ubuntu.org is just a redirect to mirror.aarnet.edu.au | 01:45 |
| jea | so you can just keep using aarnet if you want | 01:46 |
| cossovich | yeah, that's what I'm using now... I just wanted to know if anyone else had au.archive.ubuntu.com issues or if it was just my machine. | 01:46 |
| jea | There have been a couple of people with problems | 01:46 |
| jea | you are probably the third I have seen in the last 2-3 months | 01:46 |
| jea | Every time someone asks, I do an update to check, and it works fine for me | 01:47 |
| cossovich | hmmmm | 01:47 |
| cossovich | ok | 01:47 |
| jea | can you access it in a browser? | 01:47 |
| jea | as in, http://au.archive.ubuntu.com ? | 01:47 |
| cossovich | yep | 01:51 |
| cossovich | although, weirdly enough it looks like the aarnet mirror site. | 01:52 |
| jea | yep, it should do. it is just an alias | 01:52 |
| cossovich | ahhhh | 01:52 |
| cossovich | perhaps I have a local DNS issue. | 01:52 |
| jea | if you can connect there, then i would have thought updating would be alright | 01:52 |
| jea | what error do you get? | 01:52 |
| cossovich | can't remember exactly... something "unavailable" blah yada yada. I'll just leave the aarnet source if the au.archive is just an alias | 01:54 |
| jea | yeah, it is just an alias | 01:54 |
| jea | it has been pointing to aarnet for at least 5 years now I think, if not longer | 01:55 |
| cossovich | jea: right, well thanks for clearing that up for me :) | 02:05 |
| jea | no worries :) | 02:06 |
| jared | Wonder if that is worth a bug report if au.archive is a default somewhere | 04:57 |
| jea | au.archive is the default for all new installations that have an Australian city selected during install, afaik | 05:00 |
| jea | but from what I can tell, everyone has had local DNS issues for it | 05:00 |
| jea | because every time it was fine for me to do updates | 05:01 |
| jea | so i am not entirely sure on the issue | 05:01 |
| jared | If you go to it in a browser it's a littl e odd | 05:12 |
| bradm | whats up with au.archive? | 06:39 |
| bradm | I can poke someone there if we need, or remove it from rotation | 06:39 |
| bradm | seems ok to me though | 06:40 |
| jea | bradm: There have been a few people who have come in here asking if au.archive was down. However, each time this happened, I checked on my machine, and there was no issue at all. Two of them ended up being local DNS issues (we expect), but the other one I am not sure what the reason was. For at least one of them, they were able to access au.archive in a browser, but the update manager could not download packages (though nobody has given me the exact error m | 07:45 |
| jea | I suspect the errors have been on their end, but I guess it is possible that au.archive momentarily goes down or something like that | 07:46 |
| jea | mirror.aarnet seems to work for them each time, and seeing as au.archive is just an alias for mirror.aarnet, I can't see what the issue would be apart from DNS somewhere | 07:47 |
| bradm | jea: interesting. sure sounds like a dns problem to me, if au.archive doesn't work, but mirror.aarnet does | 07:48 |
| bradm | ah, typical user error report - "This is broken!" "Whats the error message?" "Oh, something blah blah, I didn't read it." | 07:49 |
| jea | Yep, that is always the issue. like from earlier: | 07:50 |
| jea | 11:52 < jea> what error do you get? | 07:50 |
| jea | 11:54 < cossovich> can't remember exactly... something "unavailable" blah yada yada. I'll just leave the aarnet source if the au.archive is just an alias | 07:50 |
| jea | that was very useful to solve the issue | 07:50 |
| bradm | yeah. its hard to be motivated to dig too hard if they can't even provide an error message | 07:51 |
| jea | I wouldn't worry about it at the moment. If someone eventually gives a decent error, then I will pass it on to you / launchpad | 07:52 |
| bradm | great, thanks. | 07:53 |
| gggs | oh hey, I had an issue like that last week | 08:43 |
| gggs | went away though, wasn't a very descriptive error but it could've been an IPv6 issue, since it returned something something "::CAFE:BEEF" | 08:45 |
| gggs | can't find it anywhere in /var/log, I guess apt/aptitude doesn't keep a log when it's updating | 08:50 |
| jea | bradm: maybe IPv6 could be something to look at. I hadn't considered that | 08:54 |
| bradm | gggs: the ipv6 address for mirror.aarnet.edu.au is 2001:388:30bc:cafe::beef, so thats entirely possible. | 09:05 |
| bradm | jea: doesn't really explain why au.archive doesn't work and mirror.aarnet does though, since its just a cname | 09:07 |
| gggs | is it signed by IP or cname? | 09:08 |
| gggs | I have no idea know how apt sources are signed | 09:09 |
| bradm | they're not signed by anything like that, otherwise every single mirror would need to modify it | 09:10 |
| gggs | I've had SSL errors in the past with an old version of OpenSSL, because the key was for domain.com and not sub.domain.com | 09:13 |
| bradm | oh, you mean https? hrm, I guess | 09:17 |
| bradm | mirror.aarnet.edu.au doesn't do https anyway, so the point is moot. | 09:17 |
| bradm | doing https on an archive mirror doesn't seem overly useful | 09:18 |
| gggs | I just looked it up, and it turns out each mirror is signed with a gpg key, so that rules out that theory | 09:20 |
| bradm | well, no, the releases file is signed with a gpg key, not each mirror | 09:25 |
| gggs | that's what I meant, only issue I could think of was if mirror updates weren't atomic and the release file was updated before/after the rest of the mirror | 09:26 |
| bradm | without the error message its all guess work though | 09:27 |
| gggs | yea and no error now anyway | 09:29 |
| gggs | damn, I had 35+ days uptime on my RasPi- I just put something in the USB hub and it killed power | 09:42 |
| gggs | that being said, my old Debian 2.2 machine got to 496+ days before looping back to zero | 09:49 |
| jea | bradm: mm, if it is just a CNAME, then that doesn't explain it. oh well hopefully it comes up eventually | 09:58 |
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