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| diplo | Morning all | 07:07 |
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| === marlinc|away is now known as marlinc | ||
| === Carlos is now known as Guest28738 | ||
| === marlinc is now known as marlinc|away | ||
| popey | Morning | 08:24 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all, happy Dump the Pump Day and happy World Refugee Day! :-) | 08:27 |
| Laney | dump the pump!?!? | 08:29 |
| mungbean | wonders if JamesTait does this manually or there's a web scarper for him | 08:30 |
| mungbean | s/ar/ra | 08:31 |
| dogmatic69 | mysql workbench on 13.04 is a bit broken. http://i.imgur.com/QS6pdxd.png | 08:32 |
| JamesTait | mungbean, I really should script it, but no, I just check the two web pages myself and pick one that looks interesting. | 08:32 |
| dogmatic69 | any idea what is going on there? | 08:32 |
| dogmatic69 | I have tried a few versions now and all doing the same. | 08:32 |
| mungbean | obligatory xkcd about scripts | 08:32 |
| dwatkins | this one, mungbean? http://xkcd.com/974/ | 08:51 |
| diplo | Learning bzr at the mo, so basically I've created a repo on my local PC using init-repo called python-scripts/trunk | 08:56 |
| diplo | Decided I want to have a main server that's always on in headoffice to host | 08:57 |
| diplo | I've installed bzr on there, want to push my initial commits from my local PC to there | 08:57 |
| diplo | Do I need to init a repo on the remote box, or bzr clone from the remote box from my repo ? | 08:58 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone, | 09:18 |
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| davmor2 | Morning all | 09:59 |
| czajkowski | davmor2: *pokes* | 10:12 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: I got something here for you...../me digs around in his pocket for bit..................................../me produces a PROD! from his pocket | 10:14 |
| Gary | a prod, umm sure | 10:15 |
| * Gary prods davmor2 | 10:15 | |
| Gary | giggity | 10:15 |
| MartijnVdS | cattle prod? | 10:39 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Who said "Cattle Prod"? https://twitter.com/opensourcerer/status/347667649204994048/photo/1 | 10:50 |
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| davmor2 | MartijnVdS: no I'm not that cruel, well not currently anyway, I'll wait till she really annoys me for that :) | 11:14 |
| === marlinc|away is now known as marlinc | ||
| === dwd is now known as dwdorig | ||
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| mungbean | its funny to see people from this irc channel commenting on reddit with the same names | 12:20 |
| mungbean | seems out of place | 12:20 |
| popey | hah | 12:20 |
| mungbean | notice BigRedS_ and directhex there | 12:22 |
| MartijnVdS | mungbean: Reddit names tend to be more.. vulgar | 12:22 |
| mungbean | potato_in_my_anus | 12:23 |
| MartijnVdS | mungbean: that's you? | 12:23 |
| mungbean | no lol | 12:23 |
| directhex | why's it odd? directhex is my identity on the webs. | 12:23 |
| mungbean | dunno why, i expect reddit to be more anonymous | 12:24 |
| MartijnVdS | directhex: but it's not vulgar and/or offensive! | 12:24 |
| MartijnVdS | mungbean: "back in the day" reddit was just like any other site you need a username for.. | 12:24 |
| mungbean | suddenly by associating it with a known nom-de-plume gives it connections to other sites | 12:24 |
| * MartijnVdS dusts off his "5 year club" trophy | 12:25 | |
| MartijnVdS | mungbean: I think I know your reddit username though ;) | 12:25 |
| mungbean | i have a lot | 12:25 |
| mungbean | i do have one connected with this irc , yes | 12:25 |
| mungbean | (theyreby negating my argument) but i have 3 others, | 12:26 |
| MartijnVdS | mungbean: you're cationbot! :) | 12:26 |
| MartijnVdS | (not the lack of 'p') | 12:26 |
| mungbean | seems to have only UPPERCASE letters | 12:27 |
| directhex | mungbean, i never said it was my *only* reddit account | 12:28 |
| directhex | mungbean, there's also the one i use for posting naked pictures... | 12:28 |
| mungbean | of course, we all have that | 12:28 |
| popey | o/ | 12:28 |
| popey | I don't | 12:28 |
| mungbean | *doesn't either | 12:28 |
| directhex | you post naked under yoiur main popey account? :o | 12:28 |
| popey | popeydc | 12:29 |
| mungbean | dc stands for? | 12:30 |
| popey | dot com | 12:30 |
| popey | its what i use when popey is unavailable | 12:30 |
| popey | my nickname was in fact popey dot com before it was popey, oddly | 12:31 |
| Gary | popey, where are these pictures you tempt me with? | 12:32 |
| mungbean | eww | 12:32 |
| directhex | lol | 12:33 |
| mungbean | i haven't been out in the garden for a couple of weekends and the grass is > 3ft high | 12:34 |
| dwatkins | popey: broken link on there to http://uk.linkedin.com/in/popey | 12:34 |
| mungbean | changed some cleartype settings on my laptop and can't reverse them or reset to defaults :( | 12:39 |
| mungbean | turning off is terrible too | 12:39 |
| popey | dwatkins: where? | 12:40 |
| dwatkins | popey: IT professional, iirc | 12:42 |
| popey | dwatkins: no, i mean where is the link? | 12:42 |
| dwatkins | oh, on your homepage eluded to above | 12:42 |
| dwatkins | the one with the dictionary-like display | 12:42 |
| popey | ah | 12:43 |
| popey | ta | 12:43 |
| dwatkins | welcome :) | 12:43 |
| popey | \o/ fixed | 12:43 |
| dwatkins | I like your fix, too. | 12:44 |
| popey | ☻ | 12:44 |
| dwatkins | not sure if unicode circle or some other character | 12:45 |
| popey | smiley | 12:45 |
| dwatkins | I blame iTerm2 for getting it wrong. | 12:46 |
| mungbean | WFM | 12:46 |
| dwatkins | ...or possibly OS X | 12:46 |
| shauno | it works here, it just looks like a solid dot at most sensible sizes | 12:49 |
| MartijnVdS | 😂 | 12:50 |
| shauno | ☺ seems to work better because it has an empty fill instead of a solid fill | 12:51 |
| popey | the woman behind the ouya has freaky coloured eyes | 12:51 |
| dwatkins | interesting, if I copy & paste the character into TextWrangler, it displays correctly as a face. | 12:52 |
| * dwatkins unhibernates his Ubuntu vm | 12:52 | |
| shauno | WFM in iterm, just the features are barely perceivable | 12:53 |
| popey | 40 quid for another ouya controller | 12:53 |
| mungbean | how much is the device | 12:53 |
| mungbean | 99£? | 12:53 |
| MartijnVdS | popey: PS3 controllers are €60 here | 12:53 |
| MartijnVdS | 😒 | 12:54 |
| dwatkins | popey's original smiley looks fine from Ubuntu terminal/ssh/irssi, of course | 12:54 |
| shauno | http://cl.ly/image/122s3M1V0Y1s it's there, it's just useless at that size :( | 12:55 |
| mungbean | i have small text in this sesh | 12:55 |
| mungbean | ctrl - 2 or 3 times from a normal terminal for irc | 12:56 |
| popey | yes mungbean | 12:57 |
| popey | http://www.game.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/HubArticleView?hubId=214785&articleId=214786&storeId=10151 | 12:57 |
| popey | 99 in game | 12:57 |
| popey | inc one controller | 12:57 |
| mungbean | oh, they sell them in shiops? | 12:57 |
| mungbean | if i had a proper telly i would get one | 12:57 |
| popey | starts selling next week | 12:57 |
| mungbean | only scart in mine | 12:58 |
| popey | so I hear | 12:58 |
| mungbean | cool | 12:58 |
| mungbean | at the casual end of gaming | 12:59 |
| mungbean | what video out , only hdmi? | 12:59 |
| popey | yes | 13:00 |
| popey | not a great selection of launch titles | 13:00 |
| popey | the fact that it runs N64 emulator is nice though ☻ | 13:01 |
| mungbean | so it can run standard android market games? | 13:04 |
| mungbean | and if i've bought them on my tablet already? | 13:04 |
| popey | not that i can see so far | 13:04 |
| popey | unless you get the apk and "side load" (ick) | 13:05 |
| mungbean | no to 1) or 2)? | 13:05 |
| mungbean | or both :( | 13:05 |
| popey | same question phrased differently really | 13:05 |
| popey | however, it has a micro-usb port | 13:05 |
| * popey looks for a cable and adb | 13:05 | |
| dwatkins | I hate the phrase "side load", but I hear it all the time in relation to iOS | 13:05 |
| popey | i hate the phrase | 13:05 |
| BigRedS_ | what is side loading? It was all over the comments for an app I was looking at the other day | 13:06 |
| mungbean | can you browse the regular android market from ouya and install apps? | 13:06 |
| dwatkins | http://www.itworld.com/personal-tech/358540/how-side-load-apps-ouya-console for anyone not already on this page | 13:06 |
| popey | no | 13:06 |
| mungbean | BigRedS_: popping the apk onto the device , bypassing app store | 13:06 |
| mungbean | liek what you do if you wanted to run asus supernote on a non asus tablet | 13:07 |
| ali1234 | is this ouya? | 13:07 |
| popey | yes | 13:07 |
| mungbean | has anyone released ouyabunu? | 13:07 |
| ali1234 | does it run the humble bundle android stuff? | 13:07 |
| popey | hah | 13:07 |
| mungbean | ouyabuntu | 13:07 |
| mgdm | that reads like you've just stubbed your toe | 13:08 |
| ali1234 | ubuntu port should be pretty easy with libhybris | 13:08 |
| popey | the standard android settings screen is somewhat limited | 13:09 |
| popey | can't even turn on usb debug it seems | 13:09 |
| ali1234 | wat | 13:09 |
| ali1234 | how do you develop games for it then? | 13:09 |
| popey | oh, no | 13:09 |
| popey | i didnt scroll far enough ☻ | 13:09 |
| Gary | popey, when are you going to release a version of ubuntuphone for the mako? :p | 13:10 |
| popey | its already out Gary | 13:10 |
| Gary | O_O isitwootwhereiwantit | 13:10 |
| popey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install#Supported_devices_and_codenames | 13:10 |
| popey | the preview anyway | 13:10 |
| popey | hmm, how do you make "adb devices" show it? | 13:10 |
| popey | its in about device, then tap the jellybean isnt it? | 13:11 |
| BigRedS_ | mungbean: oh. The tone of the comments made it sound like something rather more complex than that. Ta! | 13:11 |
| ali1234 | make sure to accept the key | 13:11 |
| ali1234 | tapping the versions enables developer mode which enables usb debugging etc | 13:11 |
| Gary | oh balls, I need a second mako | 13:11 |
| ali1234 | a few of the versions unlock different things but i forgot which one does what | 13:11 |
| ali1234 | just keep tapping everything in that menu | 13:12 |
| popey | hmm | 13:12 |
| popey | doesn't seem to do it the same as on my nexus devices | 13:13 |
| ali1234 | well probably not | 13:13 |
| ali1234 | just wait for someone to make a custom firmware for it? | 13:13 |
| Azelphur | Ended up buying that HP Microserver I mentioned yesterday :) | 13:15 |
| ali1234 | http://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/F2OfDQWwAuJGNtWh.huge | 13:15 |
| ali1234 | i bet J3 is a serial debug port | 13:15 |
| Azelphur | by the time you add up the cashback, selling the internal HDD/RAM, it almost costs nothing | 13:15 |
| popey | http://forums.ouya.tv/discussion/1380/recovery-mode | 13:15 |
| popey | lengthy discussion about it | 13:15 |
| ali1234 | yeah confirmed | 13:16 |
| ali1234 | RX doesn't work? there will be an empty SMT pad nearby where you solder in a 0 ohm resistor | 13:16 |
| popey | i haven't opened it up | 13:17 |
| popey | interesting that most of the games that are at launch are made with the free version of unity, rather than the paid version | 13:17 |
| ali1234 | where can i buy one for bitcoins? | 13:18 |
| popey | wonder if there is a correlation between that and the low quality of tha games | 13:18 |
| ali1234 | lol | 13:18 |
| ali1234 | the games are low quality? | 13:18 |
| ali1234 | but can't you play any android game on it? | 13:18 |
| ali1234 | like GTA 3? | 13:19 |
| popey | maybe, i see no way to install that | 13:19 |
| popey | it has its own storefront, not play store | 13:19 |
| popey | and the device doesn't "know" my google account | 13:20 |
| ali1234 | what is the deal with the free version of unity? what's the licensing on that? | 13:20 |
| popey | most of the games seem modded for ouya, they mention ouya buttons or show a picture of the controller | 13:20 |
| ali1234 | or, why does anyone pay for it if there is a free verion? | 13:20 |
| popey | there's more features in the pay one | 13:20 |
| popey | there's a comparison on their site | 13:20 |
| ali1234 | i see | 13:20 |
| popey | also, the free one shows a splash screen, which gives it away they used the free one | 13:21 |
| ali1234 | yeah | 13:21 |
| ali1234 | are these third party games then | 13:21 |
| popey | yes | 13:21 |
| popey | they're almost all limited | 13:21 |
| popey | time limited or number of runs limited | 13:21 |
| popey | so you have to pay to continue to play | 13:21 |
| ali1234 | lol | 13:21 |
| ali1234 | but they're not very good anyway? | 13:22 |
| popey | most, yeah | 13:22 |
| popey | a few are fun | 13:22 |
| popey | there's some usual ones like canabalt | 13:22 |
| popey | ..which only lets you play 5 times | 13:23 |
| dwatkins | I think I have that on pretty much every device I own. | 13:25 |
| popey | ahh, 5 goes per day | 13:25 |
| popey | it told me to upgrade or come back tomorrow | 13:25 |
| dwatkins | does it do Netflix, Lovefilm or anything similar, though? | 13:25 |
| popey | not yet | 13:26 |
| popey | well, not figured out how yet | 13:26 |
| dwatkins | well, if it officially does Netflix (which shouldn't be difficult, assuming Netflix allow this) that will be a major selling point | 13:27 |
| mungbean | just tried that game | 13:27 |
| mungbean | killed my eyes | 13:27 |
| ali1234 | that's the building jumping game right? | 13:27 |
| mungbean | yes | 13:27 |
| mungbean | its like we've gone back to 1984 | 13:27 |
| mungbean | with mars lander on acron electron | 13:27 |
| ali1234 | i had that game | 13:28 |
| ali1234 | it was really hard | 13:28 |
| dwatkins | mungbean: I still have a working BBC Micro ;) | 13:28 |
| dwatkins | (in fact, I have two, one's a B+) | 13:28 |
| mgdm | \o/ | 13:28 |
| popey | i really like that game | 13:29 |
| ali1234 | ah, the starter pack | 13:29 |
| mgdm | I know someone who had one with a dead motherboard, she was busy building a gizmo to convert the original keyboard to PS/2 so she could put an Atom board inside it | 13:29 |
| mgdm | wonder if she finished it | 13:29 |
| popey | although I have paid for it at least twice I think | 13:29 |
| popey | so ruluctant to pay again on ouya | 13:29 |
| ali1234 | well sideload the HiB app then? | 13:29 |
| dwatkins | I'm waiting for the DataCentre from RetroClinic to be available again so I can start using the B+ | 13:29 |
| dwatkins | http://www.retroclinic.com/acorn/datacentre/datacentre.htm | 13:29 |
| mungbean | i have a acorn a3000 and electron somewhere | 13:30 |
| popey | yeah, should do | 13:30 |
| ali1234 | you know what HiB reminds me of | 13:30 |
| mungbean | MiB? | 13:30 |
| mungbean | play it again sam? | 13:30 |
| ali1234 | you know when they used to send those book club leaflets to schools every few months | 13:30 |
| mungbean | chip club | 13:30 |
| popey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ChX5s4Qy3Kw | 13:30 |
| popey | pc games on ouya via remote control | 13:31 |
| mgdm | ali1234: heh, yes | 13:31 |
| ali1234 | and the books rotated each time, but then they had the most popular old ones on the back | 13:31 |
| ali1234 | so if you missed it you could get it still | 13:31 |
| ali1234 | i got those type-in game books from that | 13:32 |
| ali1234 | never managed to type in the whole game | 13:32 |
| mungbean | typed them in regularly from electron user | 13:32 |
| mungbean | my sister reading and me typing | 13:32 |
| ali1234 | these were loooooong | 13:33 |
| mungbean | the 6502 assembler ones were fun | 13:33 |
| ali1234 | and my nan never understood you have to read exactly what it says like capital letters and punctuation | 13:33 |
| ali1234 | lol | 13:33 |
| mungbean | debugging typos took 2x longer than the first pass of typing | 13:33 |
| mungbean | i never had them working perfectly | 13:34 |
| mungbean | ok its drawn the grand prix circuit but where are the cars | 13:34 |
| mungbean | i learned a lot about coding from that | 13:34 |
| popey | i remember typing in something from a CPC magazine. It said there was a BASIC compiler inside the ROM and you just needed some machine code to bootstrap it, and make your BASIC run faster as machine code.. | 13:36 |
| popey | typed it all in, saved to tape, loaded it, ran it, it asked for a BASIC thing to compile, then spat out a binary on tape | 13:36 |
| popey | took ages | 13:36 |
| popey | then when you load the resulting machine code you get.. | 13:36 |
| popey | "APRIL FOOL!" | 13:36 |
| mungbean | argh | 13:36 |
| mungbean | april fools shold never be more than 10 lines | 13:37 |
| dwatkins | lol | 13:37 |
| mgdm | popey: hah! gits | 13:37 |
| mungbean | i remember the acron user one was getting colour on your b/w TV | 13:37 |
| popey | hah | 13:37 |
| popey | sinclair user did one of them for the zx81 too | 13:37 |
| mungbean | i was about 8, told my dad, he was sceptical | 13:37 |
| mungbean | learned a lesson that day | 13:38 |
| mungbean | typed it out, dad was right | 13:38 |
| mgdm | popey: got a minute for a PM? | 13:39 |
| ali1234 | does anyone remember a children's book series about pirates? | 13:42 |
| mungbean | hmm | 13:43 |
| popey | mgdm: of course | 13:43 |
| ali1234 | there was probably about 20-30 books, each one fairly short, like 20 pages | 13:43 |
| mgdm | popey: OK - 2 mins | 13:43 |
| mungbean | not captain pugwash? | 13:43 |
| ali1234 | no. | 13:43 |
| ali1234 | and not the one where the kid enters a painting of a pirate ship | 13:43 |
| mungbean | they had a lot of books, 32pages | 13:43 |
| ali1234 | this was a continuing story across all the books | 13:44 |
| ali1234 | each one ended on a cliff hanger | 13:44 |
| popey | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ouya_software | 13:45 |
| ali1234 | but the catch is they were graded for reading level | 13:45 |
| popey | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffin_Pirate_Stories | 13:45 |
| ali1234 | YES | 13:45 |
| popey | ☻ | 13:45 |
| ali1234 | that's it, nice one popey | 13:45 |
| popey | My google skills are strong. | 13:45 |
| ali1234 | from the same person as roger red hat et al | 13:46 |
| popey | https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=pirate+children+book+1980 | 13:46 |
| popey | ☻ | 13:46 |
| ali1234 | i suspected as much | 13:46 |
| popey | pics on ebay | 13:46 |
| popey | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Stolen-Ship-Griffin-Pirate-Stories-1974-/390609437091?pt=Pre_School_Picture_Books&hash=item5af22301a3 | 13:46 |
| popey | that looks familiar | 13:46 |
| ali1234 | hmm i recognise the design of the title but not sure about that cover | 13:47 |
| ali1234 | "The Breaking of the Chain" that sounds *really* familiar | 13:47 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_on_the_Medway ? | 13:48 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: we have lots of streets named after Michiel de Ruyter (who "broke the chain") ;) | 13:48 |
| ali1234 | nah this was a literal chain that the pirate had to break... with a magic knife iirc | 13:48 |
| ali1234 | but yeah obviously inspired by this event | 13:48 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: this was also a literal chain, blocking the harbor | 13:49 |
| MartijnVdS | ali1234: or the river, or whatever | 13:49 |
| ali1234 | this was a chain that had chained him to somehting... like a rock on an island where he was stranded after the mean pirates stole his ship or somehting | 13:49 |
| MartijnVdS | ah | 13:49 |
| ali1234 | but hey this was like 25 years ago... i could be totally misremembering | 13:50 |
| ali1234 | "the griffin" also had a literal griffin in it ... on the cover even iirc | 13:51 |
| ali1234 | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Griffin-Pirate-Stories-Breaking-McCullagh/dp/0560005520 | 13:51 |
| ali1234 | yup | 13:51 |
| ali1234 | oh wow, the pirate books with the silver pirate ship are also by the same person | 13:54 |
| ali1234 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buccaneers_%28series%29 | 13:54 |
| ali1234 | pretty much every book i ever read in infant and primary school was written by this person. crazy | 13:55 |
| ali1234 | http://thumbs2.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mucjCI7zx7ooUSHjjgCzQiw.jpg dat griffin... | 14:05 |
| mungbean | bodes well for getting my colleagues to turn main lights off in here, as there's a couple of mac users | 14:09 |
| mungbean | strip lighting + mac = glare | 14:09 |
| mungbean | no lighting = relaxed mungbean | 14:09 |
| dwatkins | I don't switch on the lights in the morning in the office, as it's much nicer when it's a bit dark | 14:20 |
| shauno | I like doing that when I have early shifts. letting sunrise happen on its own seems to hurt less than flooding the floor with fluorescent lights | 14:35 |
| dwatkins | sunrise is currently at about 5am here, though | 14:36 |
| shauno | heh, yeah, it doesn't work so well at the moment. but it won't be long :/ | 14:37 |
| dwatkins | I wish I lived nearer the equator sometimes, but then I look out the window and see the hills around here. | 14:38 |
| neuro | WHAT'S UP DUDES! | 14:38 |
| mgdm | THE SKY | 14:39 |
| dwatkins | Your capslock key certainly isn't ;) | 14:39 |
| neuro | \O/ | 14:39 |
| neuro | it never really gets dark up here this time of year | 14:39 |
| neuro | i was out at midnight last night and there was still a tinge of blue in the sky | 14:39 |
| dwatkins | whereabouts are you, neuro? | 14:39 |
| neuro | sky starts getting light at about 3-3:30am | 14:39 |
| neuro | dwatkins: just NE of glasgow | 14:40 |
| dwatkins | I'm in Edinburgh | 14:40 |
| neuro | and it's proper daylight by 6ish | 14:40 |
| neuro | dusk doesn't really start happening until about 10pmish | 14:40 |
| dwatkins | most days I get woken by the sun at 5am | 14:40 |
| dwatkins | yeah, it's still warm untii then, too | 14:40 |
| neuro | my lounge and upstairs bedrooms are south facing | 14:41 |
| neuro | so you can see the light through the curtains by about 4am | 14:41 |
| neuro | well, i say south facing | 14:41 |
| neuro | more like SE-facing | 14:41 |
| neuro | and of course in six months it'll be equally mental | 14:42 |
| dwatkins | I'm considering putting solar panels on my bedroom window, or next to it | 14:42 |
| neuro | hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha | 14:42 |
| neuro | *breathe* | 14:42 |
| neuro | hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha | 14:42 |
| neuro | solar panels | 14:42 |
| neuro | in scotland | 14:42 |
| neuro | you're a funny guy :) | 14:42 |
| dwatkins | you've seen the weather we're having | 14:43 |
| dwatkins | it's superb | 14:43 |
| ali1234 | it's raining here | 14:43 |
| neuro | yeah, we get this for like maybe 10-20 days | 14:43 |
| neuro | a year | 14:43 |
| dwatkins | I don't need much power for my phone, anyway | 14:43 |
| neuro | and in the winter when the sun is out, it's only out for about 15 minutes, then it smegs off again | 14:43 |
| dwatkins | I reckon a 20 Watt panel will charge a battery that'll charge at least one phone, if not more. | 14:43 |
| neuro | *rises* "oh hello everyone, blimey, bit parky today, innit, right, my work here is done, see you tomorrow" *sinks* | 14:44 |
| neuro | scumbag solar body | 14:44 |
| dwatkins | how dare it... oh wait, it's not the sun's fault | 14:44 |
| neuro | it is, you know | 14:44 |
| neuro | if it adjusted its gravitational field to permit our orbit to become perfectly circular ... | 14:45 |
| neuro | and gave us a wee poke to stabilise our rotation ... | 14:45 |
| neuro | mind you, if our rotational axis was straightened, in this country we'd be screwed | 14:46 |
| dwatkins | ...most of the animals would be confused | 14:46 |
| neuro | we'd end up getting charbroiled | 14:46 |
| neuro | 18 URLs active, 7436 URLs queued, 160507 URLs checked, runtime 1 hour, 5 minutes | 14:52 |
| neuro | 20 URLs active, 7447 URLs queued, 160612 URLs checked, runtime 1 hour, 5 minutes | 14:52 |
| neuro | scumbag linkchecker, where the queued URLs just keep goin' up | 14:52 |
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| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Network_Video_Interface_Forum | 15:58 |
| MartijnVdS | AlanBell: did you know about that one? | 15:58 |
| MartijnVdS | a standard to talk to ip cams \o/ :) | 16:00 |
| dwdorig | Ah, "Open" to anyone willing to shell out large sums of money. | 16:05 |
| MartijnVdS | still | 16:05 |
| MartijnVdS | multiple vendors using one standard beats having to implement each vendor's custom protocol | 16:05 |
| dwdorig | Only if you're allowed to implement that one standard... | 16:06 |
| MartijnVdS | you might have to reverse-engineer it, but (a) it's a web camera, how hard can it be (possibly h.264, too) | 16:07 |
| MartijnVdS | (b) it's what we've been doing to talk to network cams forever | 16:07 |
| MartijnVdS | dwdorig: also http://www.onvif.org/specs/DocMap-2.3.html | 16:10 |
| MartijnVdS | dwdorig: spex! | 16:10 |
| MartijnVdS | byzantine specs, but specs | 16:14 |
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| twager | Anyone know if an ISP can read mails in a clients maler | 18:28 |
| twager | .........Mailer.. | 18:29 |
| Azelphur | twager: whoever owns the mailserver can, yes | 18:29 |
| Azelphur | if you want safety, the only answer is PGP. | 18:29 |
| diddledan_ | or S/MIME | 18:30 |
| diddledan_ | the advantage of S/MIME is more clients support it | 18:30 |
| diddledan_ | and there's a hierarchy of certificate authorities | 18:31 |
| Azelphur | S/MIME? | 18:31 |
| diddledan_ | the downside is there's a hierarchy of certificate authorities | 18:31 |
| twager | Thanks for the info.. | 18:31 |
| diddledan_ | Azelphur, S/MIME uses a certificate issued by verisign or some such | 18:31 |
| Azelphur | I see | 18:31 |
| diddledan_ | so it's less peer-to-peer | 18:32 |
| diddledan_ | there have been extensions proposed for GPG-based S/MIME however, but I don't know whether that got standardised at all | 18:33 |
| diddledan_ | the main issue with pgp/gpg is that it still hasn't become widespread - most clients feature it as an optional extra often developed by a third party | 18:35 |
| AlanBell | humans don't appear to want it | 18:45 |
| AlanBell | Lotus Notes had a completely integrated public key infrastructure, pretty seamless and solid. Most common request was to ditch the private keys and just have username/password logon and if encryption and signatures were the price to pay then fine | 18:47 |
| diddledan_ | well fooey | 18:48 |
| AlanBell | I still see people describing a .jpg scan of a signature pasted on to a document as being a "digital signature" | 18:49 |
| diddledan_ | well they're right twice, but still missing the point | 18:52 |
| diddledan_ | it's both a signature and digital | 18:52 |
| diddledan_ | but hardly a "digital signature" | 18:52 |
| MartijnVdS | With the previous version of Outlook, people kept asking why I sent "empty emails" | 19:01 |
| MartijnVdS | \o/ PGP/MIME | 19:01 |
| diddledan_ | joy | 19:02 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan_: I told them to fix their mail client, still sign my mail | 19:02 |
| diddledan_ | unfortunately I don't have that luxury - I have to deal with governmental types, so I have to not use gpg | 19:03 |
| MartijnVdS | :( | 19:03 |
| directhex | Crusader Kings 2 is half off this weekend. I'd be surprised if it's not 75% off for one day between now and monday, though | 19:04 |
| directhex | it's a half off publisher sale, with game-specific 75% off 1-day sales | 19:05 |
| MartijnVdS | what kind of game is it? | 19:05 |
| directhex | i dunno, some strategy nonsense. that's pretty much all Paradox publishes | 19:08 |
| diddledan_ | is susan boyle still recording? | 19:10 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan_: probably, why? | 19:10 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan_: need a birthday present for an ex? | 19:10 |
| diddledan_ | (she just came on my randomiser) | 19:10 |
| diddledan_ | lol | 19:10 |
| shauno | my roomba's stuck under my rack. do I rescue it, or let it learn a lesson? | 19:20 |
| MartijnVdS | shauno: yes. | 19:22 |
| diddledan_ | I really have too much rubbish on the floor to even consider an autonomous vacuum cleaner | 19:25 |
| shauno | that was actually my motivation. lil dude's training me | 19:26 |
| diddledan_ | I have a path from here to the bathroom - that's all I need, right? | 19:27 |
| shauno | it helps if you can answer the door before the pizza dude figures he's got the wrong address | 19:28 |
| diddledan_ | :-) | 19:28 |
| diddledan_ | pizza dude | 19:28 |
| diddledan_ | good idea | 19:28 |
| diddledan_ | :-p | 19:28 |
| MartijnVdS | diddledan_: have you been featured on the "Hoarders" TV show? ;) | 19:29 |
| diddledan_ | MartijnVdS, not that I'm aware, but they could easily hide in here without me knowing :-p | 19:29 |
| shauno | but if we do have any crazy inventors, I would suggest the next leap in autonomous housekeeping would be a robot that can track down cutlery and deliver them to the dishwasher | 19:30 |
| diddledan_ | the laundrobot would be awesome, too | 19:31 |
| diddledan_ | picks up random discarded clothing from wherever it landed | 19:31 |
| shauno | havint rescued socks from the roomba, I'm not sure I'd be an early-adopter on that one | 19:31 |
| diddledan_ | lol | 19:31 |
| mungbean | someone do me a favour, go to www.google.co.uk while signed in to google | 20:36 |
| mungbean | type a word, e.g. arsenal | 20:36 |
| mungbean | look at url | 20:36 |
| mungbean | what's all that gubbins? | 20:37 |
| AlanBell | mungbean: same as it does on maps now | 20:41 |
| AlanBell | it updates the location to a url with all the information to retrieve the page you are on, bit odd | 20:42 |
| mungbean | its much longer via the webpage | 20:42 |
| mungbean | than via ctrl-k | 20:42 |
| mungbean | #sugexp=crnk_timediscountb&gs_rn=17&gs_ri=psy-ab | 20:43 |
| mungbean | etc | 20:43 |
| brobostigon | /win 1 | 20:44 |
| mungbean | apparently a bearded lady is appearing on question time | 20:44 |
| popey | it's always done that for me | 20:44 |
| diddledan_ | popey, the bearded lady? | 20:45 |
| popey | 20:46 | |
| popey | url is always had guff in it | 20:46 |
| mungbean | LOL | 20:48 |
| mungbean | http://www.thatvideosite.com/v/9531/drunk-girl-ruins-wedding | 20:49 |
| mungbean | you know whats gonna happen | 20:49 |
| mungbean | but i still LOLled | 20:49 |
| mungbean | ah,,,scrap that...it was fake | 20:50 |
| mungbean | i'll never trust the internet again :( | 20:50 |
| popey | directhex: is monogame used much in commercial games? | 21:05 |
| directhex | popey, pretty much any XNA game nowadays is really using monogame. | 21:06 |
| directhex | you can't publish xna games to the win8 app store, but you can publish monogame games, as an example | 21:07 |
| directhex | also playstation vita/ps4 games | 21:07 |
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| dogmatic69 | Anyone seen apps that show all text like blocks □□□□□□ (13.04) | 23:07 |
| dogmatic69 | I have mysql workbench doing this and could really do with it working properly :( | 23:07 |
| daftykins | sounds like character set / locale issues | 23:10 |
| dogmatic69 | so far this is the only one I had a problem with | 23:10 |
| dogmatic69 | tried various versions | 23:10 |
| dogmatic69 | I don't know anything about locale settings being English and all :D | 23:11 |
| dogmatic69 | never used them | 23:11 |
| dogmatic69 | its only parts of it... | 23:11 |
| dogmatic69 | the important parts though.. menus are displaying ok | 23:12 |
| daftykins | i don't know the program nor use desktop ubuntu sadly | 23:12 |
| daftykins | it's a GUI program i take it? | 23:13 |
| dogmatic69 | yes | 23:13 |
| dogmatic69 | http://i.imgur.com/ChWfBiC.png | 23:14 |
| dogmatic69 | that is the problem | 23:14 |
| dogmatic69 | you can see the lower panel has the correct text, along with the pop up thing | 23:14 |
| daftykins | wowzer! | 23:15 |
| daftykins | perhaps it could even be a missing font | 23:15 |
| daftykins | although weird that the program wouldn't be consistent | 23:16 |
| dogmatic69 | maybe. I did try change all the fonts in the config to helvetica or whatever | 23:16 |
| daftykins | and that didn't change a thing - or? | 23:16 |
| dogmatic69 | did nothing | 23:16 |
| daftykins | i take it helvetica is present? :D | 23:16 |
| daftykins | was your 13.04 install an upgrade or clean? | 23:18 |
| dogmatic69 | clean | 23:18 |
| daftykins | what happens if you open a terminal and run "locale | pastebinit" ? | 23:25 |
| dogmatic69 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/5785291/ | 23:25 |
| daftykins | alright well at least everythings in English XD | 23:25 |
| dogmatic69 | hehe | 23:25 |
| daftykins | i wonder if it's worth running this sql workbench from a terminal to see if it gives away any errors? | 23:25 |
| daftykins | though tbh it's probably fair to say i'm too inexperienced for this one and it might be worth just trying in the more active #ubuntu main channel | 23:25 |
| dogmatic69 | Fontconfig warning: "/etc/fonts/conf.d/50-user.conf", line 9: reading configurations from ~/.fonts.conf is deprecated. | 23:25 |
| dogmatic69 | interesting...? | 23:25 |
| daftykins | does seem a bit, yeah | 23:25 |
| dogmatic69 | that line it references | 23:25 |
| dogmatic69 | <include ignore_missing="yes" deprecated="yes">~/.fonts.conf</include> | 23:25 |
| daftykins | how did you install sql workbench? | 23:25 |
| dogmatic69 | apt-get install and download | 23:25 |
| dogmatic69 | various versions, all the same | 23:25 |
| dogmatic69 | it was working on 12.04 before I upgraded | 23:25 |
| dogmatic69 | ha | 23:25 |
| dogmatic69 | fixed it | 23:25 |
| daftykins | mm? | 23:26 |
| dogmatic69 | this is the file of the error | 23:26 |
| dogmatic69 | http://bin.cakephp.org/view/182432270 | 23:26 |
| daftykins | ooh how handy | 23:26 |
| dogmatic69 | I bought the future forward a bit... | 23:26 |
| daftykins | so you edited the path? or that's a replacement? | 23:26 |
| dogmatic69 | deleted below the comment | 23:27 |
| dogmatic69 | those two lines | 23:27 |
| daftykins | ah | 23:27 |
| dogmatic69 | I wonder what else uses that stuff | 23:27 |
| daftykins | hrmm, it might be handy if you could find someone to contact about that issue | 23:27 |
| dogmatic69 | ubuntu-bug ... | 23:28 |
| daftykins | no idea ^_^ | 23:29 |
| dogmatic69 | daftykins: thanks for pointing me in the right direction | 23:33 |
| daftykins | my pleasure ^_^ | 23:34 |
| daftykins | not bad considering XD | 23:34 |
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