[00:00] <luiscinema> ah
[00:00] <luiscinema> good
[00:00] <luiscinema> is me
[00:00] <luiscinema> and
[00:00] <luiscinema> not
[00:00] <FloodBot1> luiscinema: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:00] <luiscinema> aha
[00:00] <luiscinema> tell me
[00:00] <luiscinema> please
[00:00] <luiscinema> your world is beautiful
[00:00] <matt_489> Hi folks - I'm looking to buy a new laptop. Project Sputnik sounds awesome, but I'd like to know if there is something better. Is the thinkpad x-1 carbon compatible and better?
[00:00] <luiscinema> or not
[00:01] <luiscinema> hi
[00:01] <luiscinema> matt
[00:01] <FloodBot1> luiscinema: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:01] <Jeruvy> luiscinema don't flood
[00:01] <luiscinema> ok
[00:01] <luiscinema> ich dont flood
[00:01] <luiscinema> matttt
[00:02] <luiscinema> congratulations by your new laptop
[00:02] <luiscinema> ist crazy
[00:02] <Jeruvy> luiscinema if you are looking to chat this is the wrong channel.  Feel free to ask you support question though.
[00:02] <luiscinema> am sorry
[00:05] <luiscinema> what is it?
[00:05] <luiscinema> ubuntu studio or ubuntu
[00:06] <luiscinema> I use ubuntu studio and you?
[00:07] <luiscinema> ahhh thi is  a  bored....
[00:08] <matt_489> If there is a better channel to ask this on, I'll go there.
[00:10] <Catalystic> http://www.uberent.com/pa/
[00:12] <luiscinema> flood bot 2
[00:12] <TheUsD> Anyone in here worked with HotBrick firewalls?
[00:13] <TheUsD> Or know of a good channel to get information about them
[00:14] <TheUsD> #routers
[00:16] <wilee-nilee> TheUsD, I doubt there is a channel, not here for sure.
[00:22] <Nick119119> Hello, All of you Ubuntu channel  goers! I'm having an instalation error, if someone could help me out I would be incredibly greatful
[00:23] <fwe>  i was in project that was failing and as a result got my probation period extended. they said my programming skills were not that good. however an expert programmer was brought in and the project is still failing. the project manager and i had had an argument and that is why he tried to sabotage me. do you feel the boss knows the truth now?
[00:23] <wilee-nilee> !details | Nick119119
[00:24] <Nick119119> It's just a weird error, I have it on disk and choose to install, but when I get to the part where it's supposed to ask if I want to install over or alongside win7, it just instead asks me to delete win7 or choose 'something else', and I'm trying to install ubuntu 13.04 64 bit
[00:24] <badzavrza> http://www.california-roleplay.org/
[00:24] <badzavrza> http://www.california-roleplay.org/
[00:24] <FloodBot1> badzavrza: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, post a screenshot of gparted, sounds like you have 4 primary partitions already the limit in a mbr setup.
[00:25] <wilee-nilee> !imagebin
[00:25] <Nick119119> I do have ubuntu 12.04 installed, but I'm trying to install over that
[00:25] <wlin> LL
[00:26] <mfdl> can anyone help me out with a weird networking problem? My samba share activates only after a user logs in. However, my monitor died on me and I want to continue accessing my files via the share.
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, Then use the something other option and point the install at that partition and mount is /
[00:27] <mfdl> actually, never mind the share just showed up after refreshing
[00:27] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, YOU lose what is there do you need anything in 12.04?
[00:27] <Nick119119> How can I tell which partition has my old Ubuntu? sda3 says windows loader, but the rest say nothing. And no, I already backed up all of my old data
[00:27] <Gabboz> Hi.  Ubuntu 12.04 server.  Is it possible to mount a location between two servers with ssh?  As I understand it sshfs is a FUSE item.  Thanks.
[00:28] <psusi> wilee-nilee, you don't if you don't check the format box
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, Open gparted on the live cd take a screen shot and imagebin it, prtsc key takes a pic.
[00:28] <psusi> Gabboz, so what if it's fuse?
[00:28] <wilee-nilee> psusi, Ah, would not do that myself.
[00:28] <Gabboz> can fuse run on server version?
[00:28] <psusi> yea
[00:28] <psusi> you can run anything you want on server
[00:29]  * Catalystic is listening to 03 - Highpersonic Whomen - Critical Moments (Daytripper Mix).mp3
[00:29] <Gabboz> ok. lets pretend I have somewhere.com port 600 as a ssh.  what cmd syntax would I use to mount a dir on the other server?
[00:29] <musca> you can send anything through ssh tunnels
[00:29] <Gabboz> musca, i agree i just dont know how to set as a mount
[00:30] <Nick119119> http://imagebin.org/261935
[00:30] <psusi> Gabboz, not sure, never used sshfs myself... check the man page
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, Did you install ubuntu from windows originally, I see no ext type partitions.
[00:33] <Nick119119> Yes, I didn't have a blank disk or usb at the time. That's why I installed 12.04 inthe first place, it had a windows installer
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, YOu have 4 primary partitions you can not add another. You will have to deal with saving what you need from one there, then making a extended in its place for logical types for the ubuntu and swap.
[00:35] <ccclipsss> I'm trying to dual boot Ubuntu with Linux Mint but when I try to create a boot disk via DVD I can't boot from the CD no matter what route I go (adjusting bios settings and such), and a USB doesn't even show up.
[00:35] <Nick119119> Alright, newb question time then, how do I specifically see what is on one of the partitions?
[00:35] <psusi> ccclipsss, how did you burn the cd?
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119,  You might want to check with the ##windows channel understanding the partitions you have and what is there.
[00:36] <ccclipsss> psusi Startup Disk Creater and unetbootin
[00:36] <ccclipsss> When doing the DVD I used k3b
[00:37] <Nick119119> Okay, thank you very much!
[00:37] <Gabboz> psusi, works well. syntax is odd with non-default port but works.. thanks
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> Nick119119, I would also make sure this is a mbr not uefi gpt setup, I assume it isn't but ths is rather important
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> *this
[00:38] <psusi> ccclipsss, well then you have to figure out how to tell your bios to boot that drive
[00:38] <ccclipsss> psusi When I try to change the boot order, I make the CD drive the main priority and that doesn't work, and when I try to manually select it, it doesn't show up at all.
[00:39] <ccclipsss> If it makes a difference this was originally a windows 8 computer.
[00:39] <Gabboz> ccclipsss, is secure boot involved?
[00:39] <psusi> ccclipsss, which iso are you using?  you might go into the bios and see if there's an option to disable secure boot, it can cause problems
[00:40] <ccclipsss> I believe secure boot is enabled.
[00:40] <Gabboz> turn it off
[00:40] <ccclipsss> I will try to disable it.
[00:40] <psusi> it it came with windows 8 it had secure boot enabled... it's required for the windows 8 logo
[00:40] <ccclipsss> While I'm in the BIOS menu are there any other options I should look at and/or possibly adjust?
[00:41] <Gabboz> ccclipsss, boot order is convenient but not necessary
[00:41] <ccclipsss> Thanks guys, I'll give it a shot.
[00:41]  * Catalystic is listening to 01 - Stereofeld - Zwirbeldrusenfunk.mp3
[00:41] <psusi> another sticking point with windows 8 is that when you tell it to shut down, it really just hibernates, making booting another os a problem... disable "fast boot"
[00:41] <ccclipsss> Okay.
[00:42] <Gabboz> psusi, interesting.  where is that setting in win8?
[00:42] <psusi> dunno, I stopped using windows after xp
[00:42]  * Gabboz still has to use win stuff.
[00:42] <Gabboz> ahh its a common entry in blogspace
[00:43] <Catalystic> a friend of mine tell me that windows svhost is a trojan
[00:43] <con-man> how do I change/disable the alt hotkey for the sidebar?
[00:46] <ccclipsss> psusi I disabled secure boot and it still didn't work. When I go into the boot options it doesn't even show my CD drive. If I put my Ubuntu boot disk in it will load up the way it's supposed to, and it will show my CD drive in boot options.
[00:47] <ccclipsss> However, any other boot disk I try does not work.
[00:47] <ccclipsss> I burned the Ubuntu disk in Windows 8. I have burned the others in Ubuntu.
[00:47] <Gabboz> ccclipsss, is your machine a whitebox or a brand name?
[00:48] <ccclipsss> it's an HP
[00:48] <Gabboz> have you googled your make model with install ubuntu?
[00:48] <Gabboz> see if others went through same issue?
[00:48] <ccclipsss> I will try that now.
[00:48] <Gabboz> HP what?
[00:48] <Gabboz> u tryin to install 12.04 or something newer?
[00:49] <Tex_Nick> Catalystic:  http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/what-is-svchostexe-and-why-is-it-running/
[00:49] <ccclipsss> hp 2000-2b43dx
[00:49] <ccclipsss> I'm trying to dual boot Ubuntu 12.04 with Linux Mint 13 KDE.
[00:49] <ccclipsss> I already have Ubuntu installed.
[00:50] <Gabboz> ah
[00:51] <ccclipsss> For some reason I am unable to create a boot disk that works. I go through all of the procedures to create it, even using google to find alternate methods to create one, but it just doesn't work. But it puzzles me because the Ubuntu boot disk works just fine.
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, Not much difference between mint and ubuntu other than desktops, which are available in the ubuntu repos, and some codecs included on the mint install.
[00:52] <ccclipsss> wilee-nilee Thanks. I'll look into that. It doesn't satisfy my curiosity of why boot disks aren't working though :\
[00:52] <Gabboz> ccclipsss, have you MD5d the ISO you downloaded?
[00:52] <psusi> ccclipsss, what?  you just said that it works, and that it doesn't
[00:53] <ccclipsss> psusi The Ubuntu boot disk works just fine. However, any other boot disk I create with any other OS on it does not work.
[00:53] <psusi> ccclipsss, well, you'd have to take that up with the other OS then ;)
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, I am not up on W8 stuff so on that I can't help, the boot disk not sure, the usb's should show on a computer that new. There is a boot from menu outside the bios I use rather then the bios to boot other media...etc, I assume it is there in a uefi.
[00:55] <ccclipsss> Gabboz I have not MD5d any ISO that I have downloaded.
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum
[00:55] <Gabboz> ccclipsss, i would verify what you downloaded is what was intended.. get the md5 from mint and cross reference
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> mint should have the sums to compare
[00:55] <Gabboz> yup
[00:58] <foobArrr> I have a strange problem since upgrading to 13.04. I'm using xfce with compiz. when I have several maximized windows, somtimes when I click the X to close a window, not the window in the front but a window in the back gets closed. I tried with both gtk-window-decorator and emerald, same result. any ideas?
[00:58] <Gabboz> foobArrr, have you tried this scenario in another user account?
[00:59] <foobArrr> Gabboz: no, but I will now :)
[00:59] <Gabboz> just to rule out userspace issue
[00:59] <deviantintegral> is there a way to back up an mdadm superblock before rebuilding with --create -- assume-clean? is it worth even trying?
[01:00] <Gabboz> deviantintegral, might wana gloss over this for ideas.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/69086/mdadm-superblock-recovery
[01:01] <rhizome> my usb key is not mounting well. i have pmount installed and nothing in fstab (and i'm pretty sure nothing relevant in udev)
[01:02] <deviantintegral> thanks Gabboz. google is failing because it keeps confusing ext superblocks with mdadm superblock
[01:03] <psusi> deviantintegral, why would you try to recreate the array in the first place?  this is generally a bad move
[01:04] <deviantintegral> psusi: i have 3 drives, 2 were throwing smart warnings. Got replacements, and started to swap / rebuild the drive that was closer to death. During the rebuild the other drive failed :(
[01:05] <psusi> deviantintegral, time to restore from backup then
[01:06] <deviantintegral> so, now I'm trying to rebuild with the other drive. The main issue is, I can't --assemble them because the newer drive thinks the drive I've put back in is failed
[01:06] <deviantintegral> since it's on the same device node
[01:06] <deviantintegral> yeah, this set might be toast.
[01:08] <akurilin> Quick question, what do you do if the ethernet card on one's motherboard is not detected by Ubuntu 12.04 at install?
[01:08] <ccclipsss> Gabboz I checked the md5 and the one I download matches the one on the Mint website.
[01:08] <Gabboz> ccclipsss, do you have another PC to test this disc with?
[01:08] <ccclipsss> Unfortunately I don't, but I could possibly get one tomorrow. I'll give that a shot.
[01:08] <Gabboz> fyi, i have seen some distros simply not boot to a PC and never did discover why
[01:09] <Moonlightning> Every time I boot my laptop, it seems to take about half a minute to ready the swap device. I think that's because it's encrypted; is there anything I can do to make that faster? It's kind of annoying.
[01:09] <spark_> i need help ... i can't use my netbook at all i am using ubuntu 10.04 lts and got some weird beheviour like when i click it seams that i can't interact any thing it just grab it and move it , it is annoying. i tryed to reboot did nothing the problem  is still on, it was running fine this morning and now it just does that alt lock thing wich make my netbook unusable at all , some one knows about that ?
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, Have you checked the boot from menu outside the bios, sometimes computers wont boot a disc or usb otherwse.
[01:09] <ccclipsss> wilee-nilee I have, and the CD drive doesn't even show up in the menu.
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> !10.04 | spark_
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> !eol | spark_
[01:10] <ccclipsss> wilee-nilee It shows up if I put the Ubuntu boot disk in, which I burned with Windows 8, but any image I burn in Ubuntu doesn't show up.
[01:10] <ccclipsss> Perhaps it is a problem with the way I am creating the boot disk?
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, Really, I wonder of uefi setups are different here, a tweak needed to see it.
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> ccclipsss, YOu want to burn it as an image is all.
[01:11] <ccclipsss> I have an option in the boot menu to boot from UEFI, but all of the directories lead to dead ends.
[01:11] <Gabboz> ccclipsss, i make ISOs with the gui, i right click on the .iso and choose write disc.  if you want cmd line you can go that way too
[01:11] <spark_> wilee-nilee thank's for that but since unity does not work with my cg at all i can't use the newer release
[01:11] <ccclipsss> Gabboz I have attempted it that way as well.
[01:12] <alexandergranase> #join #frogatto
[01:12] <foobArrr> Gabboz: I couldn't reproduce it in a quick test with a second user account
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> spark_, Cool, there are about 50 desktops to choose from though, 10.04 is not supported here is all, just a heads up, I would get a supported OS.
[01:13] <ccclipsss> My only theory is that Ubuntu isn't burning the images properly, maybe because it doesn't agree with my hardware the way Windows 8 did. I will take your advice and attempt to see if it works on another computer in order to rule that out.
[01:16] <Gabboz> foobArrr, then you can either re-create your account or wipe the settings...unless you wish to track down the exact setting causing your issue
[01:17] <Gabboz> ccclipsss, the write to disc option might work better for you too
[01:17] <Frazzled> Hello
[01:18] <Frazzled> Anybody here know why an Ubuntu installation would crash?
[01:18] <SDr> hi guys, on linode dashboard, my ubuntu box shows extreme CPU, and outgoing traffic spikes around 8am, for which I can't see any relevant record in /etc/crontab .any suggestions on how to locate what's going on in there?
[01:18] <ikonia> SDr: I suspect it's worth just asking linode directly
[01:19] <ccclipsss> Gabboz is it possible that the issue is Ubuntu writing it to an -rw disc?
[01:19] <cristiangomez> hi
[01:19] <foobArrr> Gabboz: I wish to track down the exact setting causing the issue, starting from scratch would be to much work. but I don't even know where to start. (If all else fails, I'll restore the 12.10 backups, I guess)
[01:19] <ikonia> SDr: the linode builds are not ubuntu builds, but custom spins, and they are on potentially over subscribed hosts
[01:19] <ikonia> SDr: also you won't be able to see "everything" that goes on , so ask linnode for help
[01:19] <Gabboz_AFK> foobArrr, no need.. just copy/move your data to the new user account and move on
[01:19] <Jeruvy> Frazzled how did it crash?  Can you review /var/log/messages?
[01:20] <Gabboz_AFK> ccclipsss, shouldnt matter. .i STILL use cd/rw :P
[01:20] <Frazzled> One sec!
[01:20] <Gabboz_AFK> back later
[01:20] <Maple__> Hi. On 12.04 LTS Desktop, the clock is persistently getting slow by a minute or a few after several days; in Time & Date settings, the time is retrieved automatically from the Internet, yet it's still a few minutes behind.
[01:20] <Maple__> I have to click it again to make it select the right time...
[01:21] <Frazzled> Just for further information, this is not the only Linux Distro I have had difficulty installing: I haven't been able to install Xubuntu 12.04 LTS or 13.04 either.
[01:21] <ikonia> Maple__: what source are you syncing your clock from
[01:21] <ccclipsss> I think I will install a windows partition and see if it works that way before I go on the hunt for another PC to attempt this on.
[01:21] <Jeruvy> Maple__ is this on a Virtual machine?
[01:21] <cristiangomez> ALLChaN
[01:22] <Frazzled> Maple__ You might be having an issue with that watch battery in the motherboard if the other OS has time issues as well.
[01:23] <Frazzled> @jeruvy: It's saying it's an issue with ubiquity 2.14.6; it's a Bug; 2.9.2-0ubuntu8
[01:24] <Jeruvy> Frazzled hmm, I no nothing about ubiquity sorry.
[01:24] <Frazzled> I have this Ubuntu install on a pendrive and installed it on another machine; it's working fine...
[01:25] <Frazzled> This machine has not been able to install anything today.
[01:25] <Frazzled> Xubuntu 12.04, Xubuntu 13.04, Linux Mint 15, Ubuntu 13.04....
[01:26] <Frazzled> The difference here is that Ubuntu actually reports an issue while the other say there's a "read" error.
[01:26] <Jeruvy> Frazzled read errors can indicate a bad/going bad HDD.
[01:27] <Moonlightning> Every time I boot my laptop, it seems to take about half a minute to ready the swap device. I think that's because it's encrypted; is there anything I can do to make that faster? It's kind of annoying.
[01:27] <ikonia> unencypt it ?
[01:27] <Frazzled> Hmm... I ran UBCD and tried the Seagate utility and it said the HDD was fine though.
[01:27] <ikonia> why have you encypted it in the first place ?
[01:28] <Moonlightning> Security reasons.
[01:28] <ikonia> Moonlightning: really..you have data that is THAT sensative in swap
[01:28] <Frazzled> Lol, typical reason for encryption...
[01:28]  * Moonlightning is paranoid. >.>
[01:28] <mpsan> Hello ALL: Would UBUNTU 13.04 + KDE=KUBUNTU 13.04?
[01:29] <ikonia> Moonlightning: what data do you think is beign held in swap that is that sensitive
[01:29] <ikonia> encyption for the average user is just a waste of time and effort.
[01:29] <Frazzled> @mpsan: basically
[01:29] <Frazzled> Any ideas Jeruvy?
[01:29] <gordonjcp> encrypting swap is just silly
[01:29] <gordonjcp> disk encryption generally is a waste of time
[01:30] <gordonjcp> it's a great way to lose data, but other than that
[01:30] <Jeruvy> Frazzled I'd be suspicious of that disk.
[01:30] <mpsan> OK, My UBUNTU 13.04 works from DVD in trial mode. KUBUNTU 13.04 does not! It gets to a few icons and then the screen is garbage. KUBUNTU 12.10 is OK!
[01:31] <gordonjcp> Frazzled: read errors from the hard disk?
[01:31] <Moonlightning> Ehh, I dunno, there are people around here that know how to take a hard disk out of a laptop…
[01:31] <ikonia> Moonlightning: so ?#
[01:31] <Moonlightning> So I don't quite trust them.
[01:31] <Frazzled> gordonjcp: No, my Ubuntu 13.04 installer crashed from pendrive and is saying it's a ubiquity issue
[01:32] <ikonia> Moonlightning: yes, but really....what "secure" data do you have that's being held in swap ?
[01:32] <gordonjcp> Frazzled: tried another pen drive?
[01:32] <gordonjcp> why are you even using swap, anyway?
[01:32] <Moonlightning> Anything might end up in swap if I run out of memory
[01:32] <gordonjcp> what is this, 1983?
[01:32] <ikonia> Moonlightning: yes, but really.....
[01:33] <gordonjcp> Moonlightning: two things
[01:33] <ikonia> Moonlightning: you've chosen to encypt swap...there is an overhead for that
[01:33] <Frazzled> gordonjcp: I have tried, between 2 pendrives, Xubuntu 12.04 LTS, Xubuntu 13.04, Linux Mint 15, and Ubuntu 13.04
[01:33] <gordonjcp> Moonlightning: disk encryption causes way more problems than it solves
[01:33] <gordonjcp> Moonlightning: also
[01:33] <gordonjcp> you're just not that interesting
[01:33] <gordonjcp> Moonlightning: sorry to have to break it to you like this, but no-one cares about your unencrypted data
[01:33] <Moonlightning> Fair enough. My question is, can I make that overhead a little less noticeable?
[01:33] <ikonia> Moonlightning: no
[01:33] <gordonjcp> Moonlightning: nope
[01:33] <ikonia> Moonlightning: get a faster laptop
[01:34] <gordonjcp> Moonlightning: disk encryption will cripple the performance of your machine and there is no way round it
[01:34] <Moonlightning> hahaha, that's a good idea. :p
[01:34] <gordonjcp> Moonlightning: at best you'll lose 10%
[01:34] <gordonjcp> at worst, you'll *get* 10%
[01:35] <gordonjcp> Moonlightning: oh and if you ever have disk problems, all your data is gone for good
[01:35] <Frazzled> Anybody know anything about "ubiquity"?
[01:35] <gordonjcp> Frazzled: yes, it's the installer framework that Ubuntu uses
[01:35] <ikonia> Frazzled: why don't you just askt he real question
[01:36] <Moonlightning> gordonjcp: isn't that true even if you don't use FDE? ;)
[01:36] <Frazzled> I did, but... lol.
[01:36] <gordonjcp> Moonlightning: no, because with many disk failures you can at least get some of the data back
[01:36] <Frazzled> My Ubuntu 13.04 install crashed: the 4th Linux install crash of the day.
[01:36]  * Moonlightning shrugs
[01:37] <Moonlightning> I'll keep that in mind. :p
[01:37] <gordonjcp> Frazzled: then you're doing something wrong
[01:37] <ikonia> Frazzled: any more detail than that ?
[01:37] <wheatthin> is a compiz a must for gnome classic?
[01:37] <Frazzled> Like...?
[01:37] <gordonjcp> Frazzled: it's impossible to say
[01:37] <gordonjcp> Frazzled: you haven't told us what's wrong
[01:37] <Frazzled> The other 3: Xubuntu 12.04 LTS, Xubuntu 13.04, and Linux Mint 15 didn't give specific errors, stating there was a read error when trying to get more info.
[01:37] <wheatthin> !compiz
[01:38] <gordonjcp> Frazzled: a read error suggests the disk may be failing
[01:38] <jason__> join xubuntu-devel
[01:38] <gordonjcp> Frazzled: without knowing what the error message was, it's impossible to say
[01:38] <Frazzled> Ubuntu 13.04 stated that Ubiquity crashed due to a "bug"
[01:38] <ikonia> Frazzled: so why is this "ubiquity"
[01:38] <gordonjcp> Frazzled: that's useless
[01:38] <gordonjcp> Frazzled: post the error message *verbatim*
[01:39] <ikonia> Frazzled: so think it through, 4 different distros fail with a complaint on disk, one of them a more generic bug with "ubiquity" - what does that suggest to you
[01:39] <Frazzled> I figured, since I used this install on another machine and it is working fine.
[01:39] <Jeruvy> Frazzled the read error is more telling
[01:39] <gordonjcp> Frazzled: what is common to all the attempts you've made to install?
[01:39] <Jeruvy> with read errors anything could fail.
[01:39] <Frazzled> I am already thinking it is a hardware issue, but I have already ruled out: memory, hard-drive, cpu and am left with PSU, motherboard
[01:40] <ikonia> Frazzled: how have you ruled them out ?
[01:40] <Frazzled> But I wanted to know if anybody could help me figure if this was at all a software issue.
[01:40] <Frazzled> Verbatim error message?
[01:40] <gordonjcp> Frazzled: have you tried the USB stick on another machine?
[01:40] <ikonia> Frazzled: why would it be a software issue, 4 different versions of the distro are failing, 3 with specific warning about disk reads
[01:40] <Frazzled> Well...
[01:40] <TheUsD> what is a good channel for router/firewall support?
[01:40] <ikonia> Frazzled: apply logic, 3 fail with a complaint about disk, 1 with a more generic failure that could be caused by lack of disk
[01:41] <ikonia> Frazzled: where do you see the problem being....
[01:41] <Frazzled> Yes, I have. And it worked. But a failed installation sounds like a HDD like you said earlier...
[01:41] <Jeruvy> TheUsD you can try ##networking
[01:41] <gordonjcp> Frazzled: it wouldn't necessarily be reading from the drive it's installing onto...
[01:41] <TheUsD> Jeruvy: thank you
[01:41] <ikonia> thats the whole point, it reads from the palce it's installing from
[01:41] <Frazzled> That's what I was thinking...
[01:41] <Frazzled> These are two different USB sticks that I have tried.
[01:42] <gordonjcp> Frazzled: so, have you tried the USB stick on a different machine?
[01:42] <Frazzled> And one is verified to work.
[01:42] <TheUsD> Jeruvy: it takes me to ##overflow    same channel?
[01:42] <gordonjcp> TheUsD: you probably need to be registered on freenode
[01:42] <Frazzled> Yes, I have.
[01:42] <Jeruvy> TheUsD like gordonjcp said.
[01:42] <gordonjcp> Frazzled: and...?
[01:42] <ikonia> Frazzled: ok so you then go up a level and look at the usb controller it's plugged into, or down a level and the data on the drive
[01:43] <gordonjcp> ffff, this is like pulling teeth
[01:43] <gordonjcp> I'm off to bed
[01:43] <Frazzled> And it worked fine on the other machine.
[01:43] <ikonia> Frazzled: ok so you then go up a level and look at the usb controller it's plugged into, or down a level and the data on the drive
[01:43] <gordonjcp> Frazzled: right, then there is a fault with the machine you're installing onto
[01:43] <Frazzled> Sorry gordon, I explained this in detail twice, lol, but I can do it again.
[01:44] <Frazzled> I have come to that conclusion as well. I am merely here to see if anybody has any clue as to why Ubiquity to crash, aside from a hardware issue.
[01:44] <Frazzled> Ubiquity would crash*
[01:45] <ikonia> Frazzled why focus on Ubiquity when you are clearly looking at a hardware problem ?
[01:45] <ikonia> Frazzled: your other distros are spelling it out clean and simple for you
[01:45] <Frazzled> Because I don't know enough about the Linux installer to rule out the possibility of a software issue.
[01:45] <ikonia> Frazzled: again, apply logic
[01:45] <Frazzled> Hence, why I am here.
[01:45] <ikonia> Frazzled: 3 of them are saying "we can't read from teh disk...."
[01:46] <ikonia> Frazzled: a 4th is giving a genric error, which could be also caused by a lack of disk
[01:46] <ikonia> Frazzled: why are you not looking at why it can't read from the disk....
[01:46] <Frazzled> Well, I came so that more experienced fellows like yourself could tell me, "No, it's clearly a hardware issue." So thank you.
[01:46] <ikonia> why are you looking at Ubiquity
[01:47] <Frazzled> I am simply trying to understand why it crashed. You are saying it is a HDD issue, so now I have to go run more tests on the HDD...
[01:47] <ikonia> Frazzled: I'm not saying it's a hard disk error
[01:47] <ikonia> Frazzled: I'm saying it can't read from the hard disk
[01:48] <Frazzled> So would that be the installer or the HDD itself, or is that too difficult to determine?
[01:48] <ikonia> Frazzled: you have given us no information
[01:48] <ikonia> Frazzled: however, again, apply logic
[01:48] <ikonia> Frazzled: 4 distros have this problems
[01:48] <Frazzled> What kind of information should I provide?
[01:48] <ikonia> Frazzled: different versions
[01:49] <Frazzled> I am rather new to this IRC chat. I usually solve  my problems myself, but decided to give this a try.
[01:49] <ikonia> Frazzled: is it likely to be a bug in all distros or likely to be a problem with that hardware/interface ?
[01:49] <ikonia> Frazzled: have you searched the bug database to see if this is a known bug ?
[01:49] <Frazzled> I understand that it is a localized issue. I am trying to determine whether it is specific to the installer or the HDD.
[01:50] <ikonia> Frazzled: re-read what I just said
[01:51] <owahi> Hi.  My touchpad has stopped working and I can't figure out why.  I have run xinput and determined that it is detected and enabled but it still doesn't work.  any ideas?
[01:52] <Frazzled> Ok ikonia. May I ask what you are suggesting is the issue, specifically?
[01:52] <ikonia> Frazzled: that's what you need to do, but the symptom is clear "I can't read this disk"
[01:53] <ikonia> Frazzled: so why - is the data bad, is the disk bad, is the controller it sits on bad, is the controller it sits on supported, is there a known bug, have I searched for the bug,
[01:53] <Frazzled> Ok. So it sounds like a hardware issue.
[01:53] <ikonia> Frazzled: NO !
[01:53] <ikonia> Frazzled: the problem is it can't read the disk
[01:53] <ikonia> Frazzled: you have to work out why
[01:53] <ikonia> look at the suggestions I just made in 10 seconds of thought
[01:53] <ikonia> work through them
[01:54] <ikonia> apply logic, discount what you can PROVE works
[01:54] <Frazzled> But the installer has worked elsewhere, so wouldn't that suggest that the data comprising the installer is functional?
[01:54] <ikonia> and make sure it's "works in linux" not "I've tested it in windows"
[01:54] <ikonia> Frazzled: it suggests the data is good yes, not %100, but certainly leans that way
[01:55] <Frazzled> Right... so... the other suggestion is the disk being bad: which I can assume it is not. Again not 100%, but it seems that way based on the UBCD tests.
[01:55] <ikonia> again no
[01:55] <ikonia> Frazzled: think it through
[01:55] <Frazzled> Then the controller being supported. Are you referring to the USB controller?
[01:55] <ikonia> you've JUST told me the installer works on another PC, so you know the disk is "ok"
[01:55] <ikonia> Frazzled: come on - think about this
[01:56] <Frazzled> I meant HDD not Pendrive, sorry.
[01:56] <ikonia> Frazzled: 1.) verify the usb / installer on another PC -so you know it is STILL a good disk with good data
[01:56] <Frazzled> I guess you are using Pendrive = disk in this instance.
[01:56] <Frazzled> Sorry, my mixup.
[01:56] <ikonia> Frazzled: 2.) once that is done and you can have a reasonable ammount of confidence both a re good, move up a level and look at the next step in the chain,
[01:56] <ikonia> Frazzled: the interface between teh installers disk and the computer, the usb port
[01:57] <Frazzled> Well, the other computer with this "disk's" installation is still working without any issues, so far.
[01:57] <ikonia> Frazzled: then move up another level, is there any known bugs with this controller in linux - if so what are they
[01:57] <ikonia> Frazzled: are you kidding me ?
[01:57] <ikonia> Frazzled: you've used a pen drive to install an OS onto another computer, that computer is still working so the pen drive must still be "ok"
[01:57] <Frazzled> Ok, well, do you  have any ideas as to how I'd test if the USB controller is supported?
[01:58] <Frazzled> Is that faulty thinking?
[01:58] <ikonia> Frazzled: massive !!!
[01:58] <ikonia> Frazzled: you've installed from that pen drive
[01:58] <ikonia> the install worked
[01:58] <Frazzled> How so?
[01:58] <ikonia> is that current computer using the pendrive at all
[01:58] <ikonia> after the install
[01:58] <Frazzled> No.
[01:58] <ikonia> Frazzled: right - so why does that prove the pendrive is still good and the data is still good ?
[01:59] <ikonia> Frazzled: you're machine has not crashed....so ??? it's not using the disk in question
[01:59] <moyam01> how do i make iptables show me a list of TABLES (not chains)
[01:59] <GreekFreak> hi all
[01:59] <Frazzled> That isn't the only machine that the pendrive has installed to and both machines have worked.
[01:59] <ikonia> Frazzled: you're not listening
[02:00] <GreekFreak> I have the following rights to a directory (I am the owner) "drw-rw-rw-" yet when I try to cd into it, it says permission denied
[02:00] <ikonia> GreekFreak: it's actually missing x - you need execute to be able to "see" what's in the directory
[02:00] <ikonia> GreekFreak: add the excute to the owner
[02:01] <GreekFreak> ikonia, oh... thank you
[02:01] <Frazzled> But if the disk installs correctly 2/3 times, with the 1/3 not working also giving issues for other installations, shouldn't the issue be localized to the 1/3 machine?
[02:01] <ikonia> GreekFreak: it's a bit backward
[02:01] <ikonia> Frazzled: ok - so the first install doesn't work, but the second 2 do ?
[02:01] <Frazzled> The first worked, the second hasn't, the third has.
[02:01] <ikonia> Frazzled: so you've verified the disk AFTER you hit this problem and got a good install ?
[02:01] <Frazzled> Yes, on another machine.
[02:02] <ikonia> Frazzled: ok, so you can have a good level of confidence the disk is valid
[02:02] <Frazzled> Well... I have reason to discount it as the issue, so, I suppose, lol.
[02:03] <GreekFreak> ikonia, lol
[02:03] <Frazzled> So now, you mentioned the USB controller...
[02:04] <ikonia> Frazzled: you basically need to work backwards through the problem, you can discount physical media and data with a reasonable level of confidence, so apply logic, what's the next link in the chain
[02:05] <Tex_Nick> Linux continues to rule supercomputers ... http://www.zdnet.com/linux-continues-to-rule-supercomputers-7000016968/
[02:05] <ikonia> Tex_Nick: that is nothing to do with this channel, please don't post that sort of thing
[02:06] <Tex_Nick> ikonia: sorry posted to the wrong channel ... i'll watch it better
[02:06] <follower> what would be the best way to back up my data and perform a clean install?
[02:06] <ikonia> follower: get external drive, copy data off, boot install meddia, do clean install
[02:06] <Frazzled> Well, now I've stepped into the broad world of electronic components and all that entails as being the issue, lol.
[02:06] <follower> if i have no external drive?
[02:07] <ikonia> follower: buy one
[02:07] <Frazzled> lol
[02:07] <ikonia> follower: or use any spare disk media you have
[02:07] <Frazzled> follower: how many GB are we talking?
[02:07] <follower> around 25 gigs
[02:09] <Frazzled> ikonia: I've performed Memtest86 on the machine in question and it found errors, so I took out a stick and it passed. So, I've ruled out memory as being the issue. At this point, I think I'll install a Windows OS and see if it runs stably or not, lol.
[02:09] <ikonia> Frazzled: what good will that do ?
[02:09] <Frazzled> follower: do you have any DVDs?
[02:09] <ikonia> Frazzled: I'm going to stop progressing this now with you as it's clear you're not listening
[02:09] <ikonia> Frazzled: I've advised you to NOT validate this with windows as it proves nothing
[02:09] <Frazzled> ikonia: Well, what are you trying to tell me? lol
[02:10] <ikonia> Frazzled: "lol" - I don't find it funny, you're wasting my time.
[02:10] <Compy> Does ubuntu have any facility for emulating a USB device? For example, I have a USB serial device (arduino) that I want to record, unplug, and then "play back" into the system as if its connected.
[02:10] <ikonia> Frazzled: best of luck, taking it forward, and I suggest you actually pay attention to the next guy that helps
[02:10] <Frazzled> ikonia: I guess I am a bit dense. Just tell me what you want me to do.
[02:10] <follower> i have many dl dvds
[02:10] <ikonia> Compy: not native as part of ubuntu but there is a program that can do it
[02:11] <ikonia> Compy: I've seen it used, but I can't think of the name.
[02:11] <Frazzled> follower: Do you have any individual files that exceeds 4.5 GB?
[02:11] <Compy> ikonia: Well drag! I've been messing around with umockdev but it looks like it only supports storage devices.
[02:11] <tking> i imported some c++ project file to ubuntu from mac but when i run the on the terminal i see "permission denied" but when i create a new project i don't get it. I imported these via code blocks
[02:11] <follower> i have none
[02:12] <Frazzled> follower: Ok, then I suggest backing up your files to DVDs and then doing a clean install after that.
[02:12] <ikonia> Compy: I'm certain there is one for usb and I've seen it used in less than 6 months ago, so I know it's still valid
[02:12] <Frazzled> ikonia: Are you still mad at me? lol
[02:12] <follower> thanks Frazzled
[02:12] <ikonia> Frazzled: again "lol" - I don't find it funny.
[02:12] <Compy> ikonia: Yeah well that gives me some hope. I'll continue my googling and see what comes about. Many thanks for the response :)
[02:12] <Frazzled> follower: Np.
[02:12] <ikonia> Compy: I'm having a quick look myself,
[02:13] <ikonia> Compy: I'm sorry I can't remember it quickly
[02:13] <Compy> No sweat, I'm sure with the flurry of information that comes through here, it gets pushed out rather quickly.
[02:14] <ikonia> Compy: ooh there is also a dummy usb host module, have you looked at that
[02:14] <ikonia> Compy: (I've not tried it myself)
[02:14] <Compy> Got a link?
[02:14] <ikonia> Compy: looks likt it's part of the kernel
[02:14] <ikonia> Compy: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/usb/gadget/dummy_hcd.c
[02:15] <Compy> oh, I also remember "gadget"
[02:15] <Compy> hmm
[02:15] <Frazzled> ikonia: Well, I am sorry if I am upsetting you. You suggested that I follow the next step in the chain, but the only thing after the USB controller is an electrical issue, such as a power deficiency, voltage instability, motherboard misregulation and other hardware issues that I don't know how to individually attend to.
[02:15] <ikonia> Frazzled: I explained many more steps earlier, thus backing up you are not listening/paying attention even further
[02:15] <Compy> ikonia: Thanks for the link! I'll read up on it and see if I can get it compiled and loaded.
[02:15] <ikonia> Frazzled: I suggest seeing if someone else in the channel will help
[02:16] <ikonia> Compy: just having a look for the other thing I remember
[02:16] <Compy> The more info the merrier, I appreciate you looking into it!
[02:16] <Frazzled> ikonia: I may not have seen it, I am sorry. Would you mind repeating?
[02:17] <ikonia> Compy I know the other one was good, hence why I'm trying to find it, the guy using it was very impressed
[02:17] <ikonia> Frazzled: I've gone over it multiple times, I'm not progressing this futher, sorry
[02:18] <Frazzled> ikonia: I am sorry for making this an undesirable experience for you. I appreciate you trying to help me.
[02:18] <ikonia> Frazzled: no problem.
[02:18] <Compy> yeah, people keep suggesting USB IP for it, which is not really in the realm of what I need to do, though I guess I could sift through their client source code to see how they're setting it up.
[02:18] <ikonia> Compy: just seen a few posts on lkml and the usb sub system lists that speak positive of gadget too
[02:19] <ikonia> Compy: http://www.linux-usb.org/gadget/
[02:19] <ikonia> Compy: again - not what I was looking for, but more detail on the earlier comment
[02:19] <Compy> ikonia: yep, much appreciated there. I'm still looking myself. :)
[02:21] <nerdtron> when i create a pool, what is a good pgnum?
[02:21] <nerdtron> ooppss sorry, wrong channel
[02:24] <Dayofswords> nerdtron: when making a pool, always be sure to maintain it to avoid algae and scum.
[02:25] <texla> oops
[02:26] <krz> topic should include latest version of ubuntu!
[02:27] <xlaire> hello
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> Heh it says 10.04 supported.
[02:28] <xlaire> how to mount my memory stick in ubuntu? i know its automatic
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> server is but not desktop
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> xlaire, memory stick, this a ram or usb?
[02:29] <xlaire> wilee-nilee, usb
[02:29] <tking> i imported some c++ project file to ubuntu from mac but when i run the on the terminal i see "permission denied" but when i create a new project i don't get it. I imported these via code blocks
[02:29] <xlaire> wilee-nilee, in terminal
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> xlaire, you can add it to fstab if you want a mount at boot or just leave it plugged in or plug it in. Will it not mount?
[02:29] <xlaire> no
[02:30] <xlaire> i unmount it
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> xlaire, That was 2 questions
[02:30] <xlaire> but i want to mount it again
[02:30] <xlaire> and i want to know the terminal command
[02:30] <xlaire> hehhe two question?
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> sudo /dev/sdXX /mnt  I believe
[02:30] <xlaire> ok let me try
[02:31] <xlaire> thx wilee-nilee
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> I believe that s wrong someone will tell you
[02:31] <chaotix> hi...   how do i make an application the default application, if it is NOT listed in the default applications in 'details'?
[02:31] <somsip> wilee-nilee: sudo mount /dev/sdXX /mnt (missing mount in wilee-nilee's)
[02:31] <chaotix> i forget, but i think there is a file somewhere
[02:31] <xlaire> how
[02:31] <xlaire> i see
[02:31] <xlaire> thx somsip
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> somsip, Thanks I rarely mount from the terminal, I forgot it.
[02:32] <somsip> wilee-nilee: np
[02:32] <xlaire> i think i understand now the command
[02:32] <Frazzled> ikonia: I re-read what you have said and realized I accidentally skipped over a few things. Sorry about that.
[02:32] <Frazzled> ikonia: But I won't ask you for more help, so don't worry about that.
[02:34] <xlaire> any tricks
[02:34] <xlaire> how to know what sdaxx number is my memory stick?
[02:35] <somsip> xlaire: sudo fdisk -l
[02:35] <xlaire> wow you're good
[02:35] <xlaire> thx man
[02:35] <somsip> xlaire: then you need to establish which one it is based on size
[02:35] <xlaire> thx somsip
[02:36] <somsip> xlaire: np
[02:43] <parallels> hello all
[02:43] <parallels> can anyone tell me how to install ubuntu on MacBook Pro?
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> !apple
[02:44] <phong_> hi guys
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> !mac
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> parallels, ^^^
[02:44] <parallels> yes wilee-nilee
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> parallels, The bot has a link for you.
[02:45] <parallels> ^^^
[02:46] <parallels> wilee-nilee how to download the driver to play dvd?
[02:47] <chaotix> where is the file located with the default applications to open files?
[02:54] <SuperLag> Is there a way to roll back to a previous version of a package you upgraded? In this case, it's google-chrome-stable
[02:54] <DHR> just bumped into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+bug/980710.  Very confusing: a black-on-black terminal looks like it isn't working at all.
[02:54] <SuperLag> As much as I can't stand Flash, I still need it... and today's update to version 28 broke Flash.
[02:57] <nimbiotics> I am using Ubuntu Studio 13.04; How do I install the Startup Application Manager?? TIA!
[03:02] <somsip> SuperLag: give me an example of a site that isn't working - I'll test on my v28
[03:06] <nerdtron> nimbiotics: is there no software manager in ubuntu studio?
[03:07] <loganlee> how to use ubuntu to browse the internet?
[03:07] <nimbiotics> nerdtron: yes, but I cant finf any application for "Startup Application Manager" or "Startup Application"
[03:07] <nimbiotics> nerdtron: do you know what that application is called?
[03:08] <yva> hey, is there a way to check whether fstab mounted a partition correctly? the disk was empty in the first place
[03:09] <somsip> yva: dmesg should have an error if there is a problem
[03:09] <loganlee> !internet
[03:10] <loganlee> !epiphany
[03:10] <loganlee> !firefox
[03:10] <somsip> loganlee: you come here often with very basic questions. Can you explain exatly what you are trying to do on the internet, given that you are already connected to the internet
[03:11] <yva> somsip, no errors when I grep 'sda' so I guess everything is ok?
[03:11] <somsip> yva: it's a fair guess. Why do you suspect an error?
[03:13] <yva> somsip, nope it's not. it's in fact giving me an error when I try to copy data (not enough space)
[03:14] <somsip> yva: output of df -h ?
[03:14] <yva> somsip the line in fstab is UUID=XXX /data    ext4   users,noauto     0      0
[03:15] <nerdtron> nimbiotics: i'm sorry, i'm using kde, and kde has its own manager
[03:15] <yva> somsip, yep it doesn't show up when I do df -h
[03:15] <somsip> yva: seems fair but I'm no fstab expert. Output of sudo fdisk -l ?
[03:15] <tking> i imported some c++ project file to ubuntu from mac but when i run the on the terminal i see "permission denied" but when i create a new project i don't get it. I imported these via code blocks
[03:15] <nerdtron> nimbiotics: ubuntu studio is XFCE right?
[03:16] <D-coy> m4v o7
[03:17] <hikenboot> hello I easily got vnc server working on ubuntu 13.04 desktop version but am not having any luck getting it running on the server 12.04 version all I get is a grey screen it doesnt seem to want to load the gnome session I was curious as to how the desktop 13.04 works in this area I find no startup script under the name vncserver and no ~/.vnc directory
[03:18] <hikenboot> what file runs it under /etc/rc0.d .. /etc/rc6.d/ ?
[03:18]  * payals tests
[03:19] <somsip> !test | payals
[03:20] <nimbiotics> nerdtron: KDE
[03:20] <yva> somsip, everythign looks normal. just tried to change the tabs and reboot but it still doesn't show up
[03:20] <xlaire> .
[03:21] <loganlee> .users
[03:21] <nimbiotics> nerdtron: I'm using KDE also. Good thing is with the help from SunStar @ #ubuntustudio; I already found it under launcher -> settings -> settings manager -> Session and Startup Manager. Thanks a lot anyways!
[03:21] <loganlee> .user
[03:21] <somsip> yva: so it is present and working, but not auto-mounted? Can you mount it manually? Any dmesg errors when you try to do that>
[03:22] <yva> somsip, when I mount it manually I cannot copy to it
[03:24] <somsip> yva: And is this the 'no room' message? Maybe it's something hardware on the drive. Is it old or dodgy?
[03:24] <loganlee> so......
[03:25] <yva> somsip, ok I now got it to work (using defaults instead of auto,user) but I don't have permissions
[03:25] <yva> to copy
[03:26] <loganlee> sudo cp
[03:26] <somsip> yva: is that when you mounted manually or from fstab and a reboot> so your fstab is now just 'defaults' and not '
[03:27] <somsip> yva: ..not 'user,noauto'?
[03:27] <yva> yep, it's mounted as root.
[03:27] <Nautilus__> I've booted to a 12.04 LTS Live CD and would like to save some of the files from the XP HD. Is there a DVD burner included in 12.04 LTS? Where to find it?
[03:27] <yva> from fstab changing 'user,noauto' to defaults
[03:27] <somsip> yva: so if your fstab is fixed, maybe unount and 'mount /dev/sda' might pick it up from fstab
[03:27] <somsip> *umount
[03:28] <yva> nope, I just rebooted. It works but it's mounted as root
[03:28] <loganlee> chroot
[03:28] <somsip> loganlee: do you have a support question or will this just be more of your usual behaviour?
[03:29] <somsip> yva: what permissions did /data have before mounting? I'm not sure where I'm going with this, just trying to ask questions that make sense...
[03:29] <akurilin> Quick question: if I don't see eth0 under ifconfig, does that mean the ethernet controller isn't detected or that the drivers aren't there?
[03:29] <yva> no sure, thanks for trying
[03:30] <loganlee> akurilin: driver not loaded i think
[03:30] <yva> should I specify uid & gid?
[03:31] <akurilin> loganlee, do you have any advice for how to deal with this situation? Is there a general approach?
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> is there any way to hide a /home/user completely so another user cant even see the folder?
[03:31] <loganlee> akurilin: maybe lsmod
[03:31] <somsip> yva: You should set the permissions for what you want final access to be. Eg root:users and 775
[03:33] <yva> somsip, oups something is going out of control. just have bad swap file entry when I turn it on
[03:33] <Nautilus__> does 12.04 LTS have a DVD burner built in? I'm not use to Unity at all, unsure where to look.
[03:34] <yva> msg at startup: "panic occured, switching back to text console"
[03:34] <loganlee> Nautilus__: k3b?
[03:34] <somsip> yva: so...have you been trying to write to a disk formatted as swap?
[03:34] <Nautilus__> loganlee: where to look for it?
[03:35] <yva> nope, just added uid and gid
[03:35] <somsip> Nautilus__: xfburn is a fairly small install. Or brasero. k3b uses KDE so carries a lot of extra dependencies
[03:36] <Nautilus__> somsip: It's a Live CD environment, can I install things such as that ?
[03:37] <somsip> Nautilus__: yes, but they will be lost on reboot
[03:37] <Nautilus__> somsip: where do they go? just ram?
[03:38] <somsip> Nautilus__: long time since I used live cd. I believe the filesystem is mounted into a tmpfs in ram, so they will be installed there
[03:38] <Nautilus__> ok, thanks
[03:38] <Tex_Nick> Nautilus__: if you can try a persistent USB
[03:38] <Nautilus__> somsip: oh, add via Software Center?
[03:39] <Nautilus__> Tex_Nick: would that have to be a blank stick?
[03:39] <somsip> Nautilus__: I don't use it, but I imagine it woudl work
[03:42] <Tex_Nick> Nautilus__: depends on size if stick ... and available memory ... blank would be easiest
[03:44] <yva> somsip, ok it's now working. I had to do another chown on /data
[03:45] <somsip> yva: glad you got it sorted
[03:45] <yva> another question: the global menu don't seem to work for a number of programs (eg gedit). any idea why?
[03:45] <jdownloadhelpplz> evening all.
[03:45] <somsip> yva: I don't use it so no idea
[03:46] <jdownloadhelpplz> i'm needing help with jdownloader on 13.04... anyone with experience or java/ubuntu expertise?
[03:48] <jdownloadhelpplz> i've had to re-install jdownloader after updating to 13.04 and now my dl file is gone :@
[03:48] <jdownloadhelpplz> everything else carried over... not sure why jdownloader failed on me.
[03:49] <jdownloadhelpplz> which is strange since i remember opening a file from that folder but after i rebooted it was gone.  the filename is still on my recently opened documents list.
[03:53] <yva> nobody for help with the global menu not working/being enabled in gedit?
[03:53] <jdownloadhelpplz> i'm not sure there's anyone really here tbh, yva
[03:54] <ur0pl> i try to install ubuntu on my new gigabyte ud5 motherboard and when it installs it cannot mount my usb drive... it says "usb 2-4: nbew  high-speed usb device number 4 using ehci_hcd"  "device not accepting address 4, error -32... then it goes to device 5
[03:54] <loganlee> yva: try alt-f2
[03:55] <ur0pl> it says "unable to find a medium containing a live file system" BUT i am booting off of a installation disk
[03:55] <ur0pl> wtf
[03:55] <yva> loganlee, I don't see how this would help
[03:56] <ur0pl> =(
[03:57] <ur0pl> i didn't have this issue until i got this new motherboard
[03:57] <ur0pl> does it not like that my motherbaord has usb 3 and stuff?
[03:58] <wilee-nilee> ur0pl, Please do not swear in the channel or use acronyms doing so.
[03:58] <ur0pl> i am sorry if i offended you
[03:58] <ur0pl> i did not mean to do so
[03:58] <ur0pl> i am an idiot
[03:59] <S_sounds> that was weird
[04:00] <S_sounds> sorry - had irc issue.  does anyone know how a folder might be lost during an update install?
[04:00] <akurilin> What do you do when a network card is "UNCLAIMED" according to lshw?
[04:01] <wheatthin> akurilin, module not claiming a device?
[04:01] <wheatthin> I think that's what he meant
[04:02] <S_sounds> i updated, booted, i had a folder, was able to access a file, then after a reboot the folder and file was gone, although the file name is still listed in the media player.
[04:02] <wheatthin> S_sounds, hmm was it on the desktop?
[04:02] <cyrano_> I currently have sound, however no sound devices are showing up in the sound manager. So I am not able to change the volume or mute. While watching things in VLC the sound has no issues, however if I watch a youtube video th sound is very choppy yet the video isn't.
[04:03] <akurilin> wheaties, I guess so? I'm not sure what it means. The effect is that the network card isn't showing up at all under ifconfig.
[04:03] <S_sounds> it was in the home folder i made.  I want to say it was the update, but my other folders i made in home are still there.
[04:03] <wheatthin> <-- tis wheatthin :)
[04:04] <akurilin> wheatthin, sorry!! :)
[04:04] <wheatthin> akurilin, is the module loading?
[04:04] <akurilin> wheatthin, I'd love to check that, where do I start?
[04:04] <S_sounds> even more confusing, it was a 3rd party app, so i thought maybe the update got rid of it, but after installing other 3rd party apps their folders magically sprung back up.
[04:04] <wheatthin> akurilin, I believe   lsmod
[04:04] <S_sounds> like calibre found its files back.
[04:05] <anthony123124> hello there
[04:05] <wheatthin> S_sounds, odd
[04:05] <wheaties466> im that asshole, sorry guys
[04:05] <akurilin> wheatthin, which specific module should I be looking for?
[04:05] <wheatthin> akurilin, what device are you trying to locate?
[04:05] <S_sounds> if it's just gone i'd be at peace with it, but the fact that i was able to open it, then lost after a reboot and install... just confuses me.
[04:05] <akurilin> wheatthin, an ethernet controller
[04:06] <mn2010> #ubuntu is busy as ever.
[04:06] <wheatthin> akurilin, yes, but this ethernet controller has a name/model
[04:06] <akurilin> wheatthin, Intel I217LM
[04:07] <utusan> akurilin: best to do lspci first to id your controller
[04:07] <S_sounds> it's REALLY confusing because when i booted after my initial install all my firefox tabs and chromium tabs opened, after reboot, they were back to home pages.
[04:07] <utusan> ops, never mind
[04:07] <S_sounds> so something really screwy happened w/o my knowing.
[04:08] <akurilin> utusan, It's at 00:19.p Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Device 153a (rev 04)
[04:08] <utusan> akurilin: do lsmod | grep ether
[04:08] <wheatthin> well then module is loaded
[04:08] <akurilin> utusan, that return nothing unfortunately
[04:08] <wheatthin> lsmod | grep intel
[04:09] <akurilin> wheatthin, a bunch of hits, but all for snd_hda_intel
[04:09] <ur0pl> i try to install ubuntu on my new gigabyte ud5 motherboard and when it installs it cannot mount my usb drive... it says "usb 2-4: nbew  high-speed usb device number 4 using ehci_hcd"  "device not accepting address 4, error -32... then it goes to device 5
[04:09] <ur0pl>  it says "unable to find a medium containing a live file system" BUT i am booting off of a installation disk
[04:10] <S_sounds> it's not like ubuntu to suddenly lose a folder/file that was there before.... i've done this before and it never deleted a hard file.
[04:10] <wheatthin> S_sounds, did you try finding it in the terminal?
[04:10] <S_sounds> nautilus but not terminal.
[04:10] <wheatthin> akurilin, well I know for sure it's loading
[04:10] <wheatthin> yes I knows this.. but if it's there in the terminal then you have it hidden
[04:12] <S_sounds> never had to find a file through terminal - wheatthin:  % locate "qqqq" (w/o quotes) is that good?
[04:12] <wheatthin> S_sounds, if you've recently updatedb
[04:13] <S_sounds> i have.
[04:13] <wheatthin> then yes
[04:13] <wheatthin> as long as it's your file name is qqqq
[04:14] <wheatthin> akurilin, yeah the net is returning that to be a snd device
[04:14] <S_sounds> sweet will get back to you.
[04:14] <wheatthin> akurilin, paste me the output for lsmod
[04:14] <wheatthin> pastebinit rather
[04:15] <akurilin> wheatthin, yep, just a sec
[04:16] <S_sounds> whoa whoa whoa... wheatthin i know you're busy but check this: terminal found the files... but the folders aren't there in nautilus. o.O
[04:16] <loganlee> ..
[04:17] <wheatthin> S_sounds, try moving them to a different folder
[04:18] <akurilin> wheatthin, http://pastebin.com/QxqaAifc
[04:18] <wheatthin> akurilin, I believe it's a realtek usb dongle? or built in ethernet?
[04:19] <akurilin> Built-in ethernet into this specific motherboard http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Q87ME/#specifications
[04:19] <akurilin> *in
[04:20] <S_sounds> O.O... terminal says file doesn't exist even though it just found the file. :|
[04:21] <distilledchaos> i've been trying to get my displaylink adapter to play nice with ubuntu 13.04
[04:21] <distilledchaos> and i think i need xserver-xorg-video-displaylink
[04:21] <distilledchaos> but it's not available from apt-get for 13.04
[04:21] <jrib> S_sounds: have you put your exact input and output in a pastebin?
[04:21] <S_sounds> working on in jrib
[04:22] <distilledchaos> so i guess i should try to build from source?
[04:22] <yva> nobody to help get the globalmenu etup?
[04:22] <S_sounds> wheatthin: jrib: check this O.O http://pastebin.com/vLrqNHXL
[04:22] <akurilin> wheatthin, forgot to inline you, oops. Again: Built-in ethernet into this specific motherboard http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Q87ME/#specifications
[04:22] <wheatthin> akurilin, Hmm ask ubuntu didn't come up with an answer yet either ;/ I'm thinking you'd have to recompile kernel or install a module.. someone else might have more info ;/
[04:23] <tucemiux> !gnome
[04:23] <jrib> S_sounds: ls -l /home/sibilance/.jdownloader/downloads/0614.wmv
[04:23] <akurilin> wheatthin, any suggestion for where to continue the search in these situations?
[04:23] <akurilin> wheatthin, ubuntu forums?
[04:23] <tucemiux> is gnome the default is 13.04??
[04:23] <distilledchaos> unfortunately it looks like xserver-xorg-video-displaylink requires the xf86Resources.h header file
[04:23] <distilledchaos> tucemiux: negative
[04:23] <wheatthin> akurilin, yeah unfortunately ;/
[04:23] <distilledchaos> well sorta
[04:24] <distilledchaos> unity is
[04:24] <tucemiux> distilledchaos, then unity is still the default on 13.04 or XFCE ?
[04:24] <S_sounds> ls: cannot access <...> no such file or directory jrib
[04:24] <distilledchaos> yeah
[04:24] <tucemiux> all right thanks! im going t install gnome then
[04:25] <jrib> S_sounds: then the file does not exist.  Locate gives you results based on databases that were created in the past
[04:25] <distilledchaos> yesss
[04:25] <jrib> S_sounds: you can run « sudo updatedb » and try your locate command again if you wish
[04:25] <S_sounds> oh.  (._. )
[04:25] <distilledchaos> this has been useful for me, jrib: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-get-complete-gnome-3-desktop-in.html
[04:25] <akurilin> wheatthin, no worries, thank you so much for looking into this.
[04:25] <tucemiux> how do I install gnome  on ubuntu? :-(
[04:26] <jrib> distilledchaos: why are you sending me this?
[04:26] <S_sounds> jrib... ty.
[04:26] <reisio> tucemiux: install gnome-shell
[04:26] <reisio> tucemiux: you already have most of GNOME
[04:26] <S_sounds> i guess the file is gone :/
[04:26] <distilledchaos> woops
[04:26] <distilledchaos> sent to wrong person
[04:26] <tucemiux> reisio, no i dont, gnome never crashed the way it is doing it and quite often
[04:26] <distilledchaos> tucemiux that url was for you: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-get-complete-gnome-3-desktop-in.html
[04:26] <tucemiux> i never used thunar!
[04:27] <tucemiux> distilledchaos, is gnome3 stable though????
[04:27] <reisio> tucemiux: you could be using Xubuntu I s'pose
[04:27] <reisio> tucemiux: not as stable as GNOME 2 had been
[04:27] <tucemiux> reisio, no, im using ubuntustudio
[04:27] <distilledchaos> tucemiux has been for me
[04:27] <tucemiux> distilledchaos, i dont want to go for gnome 3, I want stability with gnome 2 (classic)
[04:28] <distilledchaos> okay
[04:28] <wheatthin> gnome classic is still gnome 3 isn't it?
[04:28] <tucemiux> o.O
[04:28] <reisio> wheatthin: yes
[04:28] <distilledchaos> anybody got any ideas about xserver-xorg-video-displaylink and xf86Resources.h?
[04:28] <reisio> tucemiux: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu plus sudo apt-get install gnome-shell should do you
[04:28] <reisio> distilledchaos: ideas?
[04:28] <DreadKnight> hello, the record audio software is not usable for some reason; I did changed some input settings in order to make that work with some desktop recorders, but still haven't managed to this the audio one working, while audacity works fine, any suggestions?
[04:29] <bigroomsmallhous> i reccomend linux 12 (lisa) but that is later
[04:29] <distilledchaos> reisio: i'm trying to get my displaylink adapter to play nice with 13.04
[04:29] <distilledchaos> which as far as i can tell requires xserver-xorg-video-displaylink
[04:29] <distilledchaos> which isn't available via apt-get for 13.04
[04:29] <distilledchaos> so i'm trying to build from source
[04:29] <distilledchaos> which requires said header file
[04:30] <tucemiux> reisio, i dont want pure ubuntu, i want whatever it is I have with gnome2
[04:30] <wheatthin> distilledchaos, I'd look into what the newer release of xserver-xorg brings you
[04:30] <reisio> tucemiux: GNOME 2 is unmaintained
[04:30] <wheatthin> tucemiux, you can get gnome 3 classic which looks and acts like gnome 2
[04:31] <reisio> tucemiux: you could try http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download#ubuntu but I'm not sure I'd recommend it
[04:31] <wheatthin> you just have to install gnome 3 first and select classic via xsession
[04:31] <reisio> tucemiux: Xfce is the sanest choice for people who want something like GNOME 2
[04:31] <distilledchaos> wheatthin: not quite sure what you mean
[04:32] <wheatthin> distilledchaos, when you install gnome 3 shell, it comes with gnome classic which looks and acts just like gnome 2
[04:32] <S_sounds> well wheatthin and jrib, thanks.  it didn't work out well for me but now i know what really happened.
[04:32] <tucemiux> reisio, I want ***stability***, xfce is crashing my pc
[04:32] <zugaaz> how do i install the official nvidia geforce driver in ubuntu
[04:32] <reisio> tucemiux: no it isn't
[04:32] <zugaaz> ?
[04:32] <reisio> tucemiux: Ubuntu is
[04:32] <S_sounds> night all.
[04:32] <reisio> zugaaz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:32] <reisio> S_sounds: night
[04:33] <distilledchaos> wheatthin: not quite sure what you mean in your comment about xserver-xorg
[04:33] <distilledchaos> not gnome 3 classic
[04:34] <wheatthin> newer versions of xserver might give you what you want instead of compiling something that didn't come in the ubuntu repos or ppa's
[04:34] <tucemiux> reisio, all i know is that nowadays im using XFCE and the thing is crashing but Ill use the software installer, i dont think i want to install mate or find out what it is
[04:34] <reisio> tucemiux: MATE is the only remotely maintained version of GNOME 2
[04:35] <reisio> though efforts to make GNOME 3 _behave/appear_ like GNOME 2 are ongoing
[04:36] <utusan> akurilin: you should use e1000e drivers
[04:36] <zugaaz> i have the nvidia.run file
[04:36] <wheatthin> yup best linux compadible
[04:36] <zugaaz> but i don't know how to install it
[04:37] <tucemiux> reisio, i just used the software center and installed what they have there, hopefully my machine will then be stable otherwise I'll be forced to restart from scratch with 12.04
[04:37] <wheatthin> zugaaz, umm that's not supported here
[04:37] <reisio> tucemiux: I doubt it will be; like I said, Xfce is perfectly stable, so it's probably some other aspect of your distro acting up
[04:37] <wheatthin> zugaaz, as it's a proprietary driver
[04:37] <reisio> perhaps the extras that ubuntu studio installs
[04:39] <z0> ubottu:
[04:39] <akurilin> utusan, what's the idea behind them? Are they supposed to work across most Intel ethernet controllers?
[04:40] <utusan> akurilin: not sure but try modprobe e1000
[04:40] <myth> in #gentoo-chat
[04:40] <myth> typo
[04:40] <wheatthin> tis #ubuntu :)
[04:41] <suore> Hi Why after instalation Nvidis drivers, during booting i cannot see ubuntu Logo, with 4  litter circles look like big dots, only i can see text Ubuntu 13.04, wih small dots.....
[04:41] <suore> ??
[04:43] <myth> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
[04:43] <wheatthin> !ot | myth
[04:43] <distilledchaos> alright this has gone nowhere
[04:43] <distilledchaos> pretty sure libraries are not the right version...
[04:43] <distilledchaos> gettings things like too many arguments when trying to make
[04:44] <holstein> distilledchaos: confirm that they are incorrect, or not
[04:44] <wheatthin> distilledchaos, making them with sourced packages outside ubuntu repo's aren't supported
[04:44] <wheatthin> and I might add aren't recommended
[04:44] <holstein> ^^ that too. doing that means that you are OK going out on your own, support wise
[04:45] <distilledchaos> well i don't see any other options
[04:45] <wheatthin> distilledchaos, try a ppa that offers newer stuff
[04:46] <holstein> distilledchaos: the xswat ppa? you have that installed?
[04:46] <distilledchaos> nope.  i take it i should?
[04:46] <holstein> i like ppa's, becuase its easier to remove the individual packages, or purge the ppa if things go wrong
[04:46] <holstein> distilledchaos: its a way to get the newer packages that may or may not "fix" whatever issue you are having
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[04:47] <FloodBot1> ur0pl: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:47] <AlexLikeRock> source : http://www.gnu.org/distros/common-distros.html
[04:48] <AlexLikeRock> Ubuntu's trademark policy prohibits commercial redistribution of exact copies of Ubuntu, denying an important freedom.
[04:48] <AlexLikeRock> As of October 2012, Ubuntu sends personal data about users' searches to a server belonging to Canonical, which sends back ads to buy things from Amazon.
[04:48] <AlexLikeRock>  This does not, strictly speaking, affect whether Ubuntu is free software, but it is a violation of users' privacy. It also encourages buying from Amazon, a company associated with DRM as well as mistreatment of workers, authors and publishers.
[04:48] <AlexLikeRock> This adware is one of the rare occasions in which a free software developer persists in keeping a malicious feature in its version of a program.
[04:48] <holstein> AlexLikeRock: you have something support related you need help with?
[04:49] <ur0pl> sorry, i went to antoher room, and something happened
[04:49] <ur0pl> something hit my keyboard
[04:49] <AlexLikeRock> ubuntu its a spy ?
[04:49] <AlexLikeRock> ubuntu go to evil
[04:49] <AlexLikeRock> now its friend of Micro$oft
[04:50] <holstein> AlexLikeRock: ? ubuntu is free.. you can try it live and see if you like/want it. you can remove what you are linking above.. do you have a support question?
[04:50] <distilledchaos> x-swat doesn't have anything for displaylink
[04:50] <ur0pl> Ubuntu install recognizes and can "ennumerate" my two usb "3.0/2.0" but it cannot do that with my 8 usb "2.0/1.0"  slots on my gigabyte ud5 board
[04:50] <AlexLikeRock> hoschi,   Ubuntu's trademark policy prohibits commercial redistribution of exact copies of Ubuntu, denying an important freedom
[04:50] <ur0pl> i do not understadn
[04:50] <holstein> AlexLikeRock: you can redistribute what you want.. its all open. but, ubuntu is ubuntu
[04:51] <AlexLikeRock> what about the  " freedom."
[04:51] <AlexLikeRock> ?
[04:51] <holstein> AlexLikeRock: if you dont have a support question, please go to the offtopic channel
[04:51] <wheatthin> distilledchaos, what release do you have?
[04:51] <holstein> AlexLikeRock: canonnical is free to do what they are doing. and you are free to use it, or do *exatly* as ubuntu is doing, and make your own
[04:52] <distilledchaos> 13.04
[04:52] <distilledchaos> xserver-xorg-video-displaylink is only available for 12.04 and 12.10
[04:52] <distilledchaos> as far as i'm aware, that's the package i need
[04:52] <holstein> distilledchaos: then you'll need to use 12.04
[04:52] <holstein> !12.04
[04:52] <AlexLikeRock>  policy prohibits commercial redistribution of exact copies of Ubuntu
[04:52] <holstein> its still supported
[04:52] <distilledchaos> yep.  unfortunately, it doesn't have drivers for newer hardware i need
[04:53] <distilledchaos> 13.04 is the oldest version that supports most of the hardware
[04:53] <holstein> AlexLikeRock: so? whats the question? are you wanting to make a copy of ubunt and rebrand it? you can always ask for permission. but you can just build what you want from scratch
[04:53] <holstein> distilledchaos: sounds like you'll have to make some decisions... maybe dual boot
[04:54] <distilledchaos> one piece of hardware is for the display, 13.04 required, and the displaylink doesn't work on it
[04:54] <distilledchaos> if i dual boot i don't get dual monitors...
[04:54] <wheatthin> distilledchaos, check xserver-xorg-core
[04:54] <distilledchaos> for what...?
[04:54] <wheatthin> newer versions..
[04:54] <holstein> i would add that ppa i mentioned as well, and test
[04:54] <AlexLikeRock> holstein,  i can not do a  project   with ubuntu , like tails , black track , etc, etc
[04:54] <distilledchaos> of something related to displaylink?
[04:54] <wheatthin> distilledchaos, yup
[04:55] <holstein> AlexLikeRock: whats your question?
[04:55] <holstein> AlexLikeRock: back track is not ubuntu.. it might use ubuntu as the base
[04:55] <AlexLikeRock> now
[04:56] <xangua> !ot | AlexLikeRock holstein
[04:56] <SuperLag> somsip: sorry, went away... now I'm back. plus.google.com is one
[04:56] <ur0pl> Ubuntu recognizes and can "ennumerate" my two usb "3.0/2.0" but it cannot do that with my 8 usb "2.0/1.0"  slots on my gigabyte ud5 board. I do not understand, i thought ubuntu would be up to day with technology
[04:57] <holstein> ur0pl: i would run lspci and see what the hardware id's are.. i would be open to the fact that not all hardware is able to be supported out of the box by linux
[04:57] <distilledchaos> i don't understand how to check xserver-xorg-core
[04:58] <Ben64> distilledchaos: what hardware do you have that is unsupported in 12.04?
[04:58] <wheatthin> distilledchaos, which version is currently installed, and check which is currently available as ppa
[04:58] <distilledchaos> Ben64: apple hardware >.>
[04:58] <distilledchaos> i got a macbook pro as a work computer
[04:58] <distilledchaos> and i need to dual boot ubuntu
[04:59] <holstein> !macbook
[04:59] <Ben64> distilledchaos: what specifically though? you can get the 13.04 kernel in 12.04
[04:59] <distilledchaos> hmmm
[04:59] <distilledchaos> thunderbolt
[04:59] <distilledchaos> for display
[04:59] <distilledchaos> wouldn't 12.10 work too?
[04:59] <distilledchaos> xserver-xorg-video-displaylink is supported there was well, i believe
[04:59] <Ben64> you might want to try the new kernel with 12.04 then, dunno if thats a xorg thing or a kernel thing
[04:59] <Ben64> 12.04 is supported till 2017
[05:00] <distilledchaos> i'm pretty sure it's a kernel thing
[05:00] <holstein> 12.04 is LTS.. i would use it instead of 12.10 if i had a choice
[05:00] <holstein> distilledchaos: confirm that it is, or not...
[05:00] <distilledchaos> i don't need lts
[05:00] <Ben64> 12.10 is supported for... a while but 13.04 stops in January 2014, so ... yeah
[05:00] <Ben64> well if you want it to continue working properly, 12.04 is the best choice
[05:00] <ur0pl> holstein, it is gigabyte ud5, it is a very popular board
[05:00] <Ben64> as long as it works with the newer kernel*
[05:01] <distilledchaos> how would i go about using the newer kernel with 12.04?
[05:01] <holstein> ur0pl: sure.. but he popularity is not the key.. ubuntu cant ask for support for it. it might need to have information or support from the vendor in order to work properly..
[05:01] <distilledchaos> also, why is it a better choice than 12.10, besides long-term support?
[05:01] <Ben64> thats the reason
[05:01] <holstein> distilledchaos: because 12.10 is EOL *much* sooner
[05:02] <distilledchaos> i just need it to last the summer
[05:02] <ur0pl> holstein, does ubuntu have better hardware support than xubuntu/ and this might work on that?
[05:02] <ur0pl> or maybe i can try 13.04 instead of 12.04?
[05:02] <Ben64> why try to upgrade to 13.04, which doesn't support what you want, when 12.04 works till 2017
[05:02] <holstein> ur0pl: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. same kernel..
[05:02] <reisio> ur0pl: and even GNU/Linux, all distros have the same hardware support, essentially
[05:02] <ur0pl> maybe 13.04 instead of 12.04 will support it
[05:02] <Ben64> what kernel do you have running? (uname -a)
[05:02] <Ben64> ur0pl: ^
[05:02] <holstein> ur0pl: the versions can matter.. 12.04 instead of 13.04..
[05:03] <distilledchaos> anyway, how do i get the newer kernel with 12.04?
[05:03] <Ben64> i think it does it by default on new installs of 12.04
[05:03] <ur0pl> holstein, i bet i could try to change a bios setting to fix this
[05:03] <distilledchaos> huh
[05:03] <ur0pl> maybe it is uefi?
[05:03] <Ben64> !info linux-generic-lts-raring precise
[05:05] <xangua> Ben64: last time i tried that lts-raring in 12.04 an update came and uninstalled xorg lol...then decided to upgrade to raring :)
[05:06] <Ben64> :o
[05:06] <Ben64> there is also linux-image-hwe-generic
[05:06] <Ben64> !info linux-image-hwe-generic precise
[05:06] <Ben64> hmm... still 3.2
[05:07] <jony_easyrider> how can be checked when was started phpmyadmin server or to show the running time?
[05:07] <holstein> distilledchaos: is this all for dual head support?
[05:07] <distilledchaos> pretty much
[05:07] <Ben64> jony_easyrider: phpmyadmin isn't a server, its more like a web page...
[05:07] <holstein> distilledchaos: you shouldnt assume that that is a function that can be implemented on that hardware with drivers in linux
[05:08] <distilledchaos> for now i just want to get the displaylink adapter recognized
[05:08] <distilledchaos> i'll deal with dual head support later
[05:08] <jony_easyrider> Ben64, ok, it would be similar help if I could check if cron it executes it's stored commands or not
[05:08] <holstein> distilledchaos: you have no graphics?
[05:09] <distilledchaos> holstein: ...?  i do
[05:09] <holstein> distilledchaos: im just not clear on what the issue is.. you have graphics on the internal GPU on a macbook? and that is "displaylink" ?
[05:10] <distilledchaos> displaylink is a type of usb display adapter
[05:10] <distilledchaos> basically, this is my issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/289018/how-do-to-install-the-display-drivers-for-a-displaylink-usb-monitor-on-13-04
[05:10] <distilledchaos> but it's never been solved
[05:11] <holstein> distilledchaos: so, that is for dual head, then, correct?
[05:11] <wheatthin> distilledchaos, in osx does it act as intel and nvidia?
[05:12] <holstein> distilledchaos: according to what you linked, i might try the fedora live CD mentioned and make note of all the versions of everything relevant
[05:12] <jeff____> i'm using a regular version of g xchat and it doesn't give me an option to connect to a server other than the ones listed.  Does anyone know how to do that?
[05:12] <distilledchaos> holstein: one step at a time, just trying to get the adapter recognized first
[05:12] <distilledchaos> which is part of that question
[05:13] <distilledchaos> wheatthin: don't know?  i would imagine it switches between each depending on power
[05:13] <holstein> distilledchaos: and, you tried the xswat ppa?
[05:13] <distilledchaos> yes
[05:13] <holstein> distilledchaos: no luck?
[05:13] <wheatthin> distilledchaos, those still aren't supported by linux I don't think
[05:13] <distilledchaos> wheatthin: what, displaylink?
[05:13] <user_> anyone know how to save al live form to google drive
[05:14] <distilledchaos> holstein: i'm guessing i'd need to restart to see if it helped?
[05:14] <wheatthin> it's more than that
[05:14] <distilledchaos> wheatthin ?
[05:14] <holstein> distilledchaos: so, you havent tried the pacakges from the ppa then?
[05:14] <distilledchaos> i upgraded after adding the ppa
[05:14] <distilledchaos> but
[05:14] <distilledchaos> haven't installed any packages
[05:14] <holstein> distilledchaos: thats what i would do.. try the PPA.. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade .reboot and try it
[05:14] <distilledchaos> i'll reboot then
[05:14] <distilledchaos> did the first two steps
[05:15] <holstein> distilledchaos: then, i would load that fedora live CD and see what they have in there by default
[05:15] <distilledchaos> k
[05:15] <wheatthin> it acts differently than displaylink
[05:17] <akurilin2> wheatthin, utusan, apparently the new e1000e drivers seem to do the trick. Need to download them, build and replace the existing ones and it's good to go.
[05:18] <wheatthin> :)
[05:18] <wheatthin> akurilin2,
[05:18] <wheatthin> noo.. you can modprobe e100e
[05:18] <wheatthin> e1000e
[05:18] <akurilin2> wheatthin, I did, but it did nothing
[05:19] <AlexLikeRock> What if Microsoft bought Ubuntu?
[05:19] <AlexLikeRock> http://www.osattack.com/humor/what-if-microsoft-bought-ubuntu/
[05:19] <AlexLikeRock> 1st – All open source code would “mysteriously” self implode leaving no trace it ever existed.
[05:19] <AlexLikeRock> 2nd – Integration of IE6.0 for all non EU downloads.
[05:19] <AlexLikeRock> 3rd – Silverlight becomes the only supported media player.
[05:19] <FloodBot1> AlexLikeRock: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:19] <wheatthin> should be in the kernel for a long while now
[05:19] <akurilin2> wheatthin, right, but what if this was a matter of versions of that driver?
[05:20] <wheatthin> akurilin2, then a newer kernel should be installed
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> AlexLikeRock, #ubuntu-offtopic is the channel you want
[05:20] <AlexLikeRock> * You have left channel #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:33] <evilroots> hey
[05:33] <evilroots>  i need help getting the nidvida drivers for my card working manuly as addonal drivers dont show my card
[05:33] <evilroots> i chmod 777 the files and then ran it
[05:34] <evilroots> but it said i needed to ne root so i went root then it said something else about an x server running and i need to shut it off
[05:34] <evilroots> i doonoo want to do
[05:34] <evilroots> i just wanna play games under unbutu
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> evilroots, what does lsb_release -a  say
[05:39] <jony_easyrider> how can be checked if cron launch a stored command?
[05:39] <wheatthin> jony_easyrider, by checking your syslog
[05:41] <evilroots> wilee-nilee, lsb_release -a says
[05:41] <evilroots> dj@dj-desktop:~$ lsb_release -a
[05:41] <evilroots> No LSB modules are available.
[05:41] <evilroots> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[05:41] <evilroots> Description:	Ubuntu 13.04
[05:41] <evilroots> Release:	13.04
[05:41] <FloodBot1> evilroots: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:41] <evilroots> Codename:	raring
[05:42] <jony_easyrider> wheatthin, how can I check the syslog?
[05:42] <wheatthin> evilroots, then it should work
[05:42] <wheatthin> umm   cat /var/log/syslog
[05:42] <wheatthin> search through it
[05:44] <wheatthin> evilroots, you might need to generate an xorg.conf file first tho
[05:46] <manjush> hi, does anyone know data science analytics channel on irc
[05:46] <wheatthin> nope not ubuntu topic I don't think
[06:00] <iceroot> what is the programname for the sound-applet in the systray? i need to restart it because its having errors but i cant restart my x-session
[06:00] <sebell> hello all
[06:01] <Grivvel> Does anyone know why upstart might be respawning a process terminating during the pre-stop script? As far as I can tell from the documentation, terminating during pre-stop should be totaly legal.
[06:02] <sebell> can anyone here help a n00b set up Vidalia?  I'm insecure about the terminal in ubuntu still, and don't know very many commands, makes it hard to set up and use tor.
[06:03] <xangua> sebell: or you can use the bundle provided at tor web, as themselves suggest
[06:04] <Grivvel> sebell: Is there a reason you aren't just using the browser bundle that does everything for you?
[06:04] <sebell> xangua: I did actually get that far.  :)  I don't know how to use the bundle with any other applications though.
[06:05] <sebell> or if I can
[06:05] <benbloom> Im getting input/output errors on /etc/mtab /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/resolv.conf.tmp. I think this is due to bad sectors on the microSD card being used as my root FS. is there a way to bypass these sectors?
[06:07] <prooz> Nooooooo....... James Gandolfini
[06:07] <prooz> R.I.P.
[06:08] <sebell> ^^
[06:08] <prooz> What? That's not ^^
[06:08] <prooz> It's :(
[06:09] <sebell> oops.  sorry, that was meant to be an agreement about what you said.  heard about it on public radio
[06:09] <sebell> not ^_^  I agree.  T_T
[06:10] <djapo> hello world, i have managed to pair my btheadset with my py but cant play audio out of it any help or advice
[06:10] <djapo> i have tryied an asound.conf but it trows an error libasound_module_pcm_bluetooth.so  no such file ...
[06:10] <Ben64> djapo: with your.... py?
[06:11] <sebell> Grivvel: I want to use tor with anything that connects to the web now lol.  recent events have got me paranoid and I feel the need to learn a bit more about anonymity.
[06:11] <djapo> rewtraw: computer
[06:11] <yva_> hi, I just install 13.04 and I can seem to find a way to have alt-tab to not group windows together (the old alt-tab). Is there a way to change that?
[06:11] <Ben64> !tor | sebell
[06:12] <sebell> thanks for the manuals.  :D  I shall now go read them.
[06:13] <drparazit> Всем привет. Русские есть?
[06:13] <aeon-ltd> !russian
[06:17] <sebell> what does ! mean when you use it thus: !russian
[06:20] <Ben64> sebell: its a trigger for the bot
[06:22] <sebell> Ben64: thanks.  I have a lot to learn.
[06:23] <xrfang> I try to use kvm on command line with this: sudo kvm -curses -hda vdisk.img -cdrom precise-server-amd64.iso, but it just show me a black screen with 640 x 480 Graphic mode in the middle
[06:23] <xrfang> what's wrong?
[06:26] <Ben64> xrfang: you might want to try #qemu on irc.oftc.net
[06:30] <benbloom> Im getting input/output errors on /etc/mtab /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/resolv.conf.tmp. I think this is due to bad sectors on the microSD card being used as my root FS. is there a way to bypass these sectors?
[06:31] <Ben64> benbloom: you should start with fsck
[06:32] <benbloom> Ben64: is there a way to do it without rebooting?
[06:32] <Ben64> benbloom: well yeah, just unmount the card
[06:33] <xrfang> Ben64, #kvm let me ask the "Ubuntu people" :(
[06:33] <xrfang> they said this problem is caused by "you are trying to install a graphics mode guest OS", but I am trying to install ubuntu server
[06:33] <xrfang> the server disc is in graphics mode?
[06:33] <Ben64> xrfang: i'd recommend virtualbox or something for what it seems like you want to do
[06:34] <benbloom> it's my root FS Ben64 how would I unmount while running?
[06:34] <xrfang> also, is it possible to install the so called SDL driver
[06:34] <Ben64> benbloom: how do you have a sd card as your root partition....? are you on ubuntu?
[06:34] <xrfang> Ben64, my purpose is to setup a VM development environment in pure TEXT mode
[06:34] <Ben64> xrfang: ok?
[06:35] <benbloom> yup. I'm running 12.04 armhf on a trimslice microPC
[06:35] <Ben64> you might want #ubuntu-arm then... but you should take the card out and fsck on another computer
[06:36] <DONKEEZ> how do make my backspace key go back one page in firefox
[06:36] <sebell> Ben64: if I already installed tor from the ppa:ubun-tor/ppa repository, should I uninstall it before getting it from the torproject repository?
[06:37] <Ben64> DONKEEZ: it's the first link if you google for ---- backspace back firefox
[06:37] <xrfang> Ben64, I will try virtualbox
[06:37] <Ben64> sebell: dunno, i don't use it
[06:38] <DONKEEZ> Ben64 thanks
[06:38] <DONKEEZ> link?
[06:38] <Ben64> come on, learn to use google. it was the first link on the first query i tried based on what you want
[06:39] <benbloom> k Ben64. thanks for pointing me to arm support channel. I'll just have to wait until I can power down the unit and run fsck.
[06:42] <Asad2005> When i issue date >> filename  the date in filename is displayed ok but when doing the same thing in cron the output is like this "خ يون 20 01:02:05 AST 2013" is this an encoding issue? and how can it be resolved?
[06:44] <Ben64> Asad2005: use a script
[06:44] <Tex_Nick> Ben64 : i think the ubottu factoid needs to be revised to reflect what you just stated ???
[06:44] <Ben64> Tex_Nick: clarification?
 come on, learn to use google. it was the first link on the first query i tried based on what you want
[06:45] <Asad2005> Ben64: a secript for just one command that is to put time stamp of a log inside text file?
[06:45] <Tex_Nick> as compared to !google
[06:45] <Tex_Nick> !google
[06:46] <Ben64> Tex_Nick: well that just says don't tell people to "google it", i said the exact query i used which gave the answer in the first result
[06:46] <Ben64> i'm just not going to do all the work
[06:48] <Tex_Nick> Ben64 : yes sir i just meant that i think ubottu should say something more like USE GOOGLE ... ;-)
[06:48] <Ben64> well i agree just telling people to google something without knowing the answer lies there is kind of rude
[06:51] <Asad2005> its only the month name is not in english
[06:52] <jpds> Asad2005: date -R ?
[06:52] <Tex_Nick> Ben64 : ok and i have to say you're one of the most polite in this chan & most knowledgeable was a personal thought ... probably shouldn't have posted that
[06:52] <Ben64> Tex_Nick: no its fine, don't worry
[06:53] <Hyperiant> I need some help getting good video drivers for my aging craptop; anyone willing to go to the trouble to help out?
[06:53] <THE_DUDEZ0R> suppose in the ddwrt  router im connected to, my  pc   appears as foo-pc, and I want to change that in my  system  so  the router displays someOtherName-pc, what exactly do i need to change?
[06:54] <reisio> what's the problem?
[06:54] <Hyperiant> The drivers I have don't seem to support OpenGL, and run very slow on things the laptop should be able to run well (it doesn't appear to use hardware acceleration in anything)
[06:54] <th0r> THE_DUDEZ0R, probably the computer's hostname
[06:55] <adam_> I keep getting "could not find main class" in a java package that works on other machines :(
[06:57] <energizer> How do I losslessly convert a png to pdf? "convert x.png x.pdf" seems to mess up some pixels or something
[06:57] <Asad2005> jpds: Thanks i will try it
[06:57] <THE_DUDEZ0R> th0r, I already knew that thanks
[06:57] <Smiche> Hello. I installed fglrx and now my graphic's got worse i used aticonfig to change the resolution but there are still some weird lines on the screen
[06:58] <Smiche> and Catalyst control center wouldnt start
[06:58] <Smiche> do I need to install any other packages except fglrx? Cause catalyst control center quits with an error saying that i have no gfx card drivers
[06:58] <Slart> energizer: I'll have a look.. give me a sec
[06:59] <Smiche> Also my compiz doesnt work anymore and the windows have weird buttons for minimizing resizing and quitting
[06:59] <Ben64> Hyperiant: what laptop, what video card, which ubuntu?
[07:00] <Hyperiant> Toshiba Satellite M115-S1061, the internal card (I couldn't tell you what the exact info is without running a command I don't remember), Xubuntu 13.04
[07:00] <energizer> Slart i can show you what i mean. where should i put the files?
[07:00] <Hyperiant> not having drivers is a general ubuntu issue though, right?
[07:00] <alexandergranase> I would not say drivers for ubuntu is an issue anymore
[07:01] <alexandergranase> It was a few years ago but it works a lot better nowadays
[07:01] <Hyperiant> Non-open-source drivers that support OpenGL for legacy integrated cards
[07:01] <Hyperiant> or, heck, open source is fine, as long as it functions properly
[07:02] <Smiche> Can some1 help me with my problem :X?
[07:02] <energizer> Slart Files are here http://ge.tt/8elSErj
[07:02] <energizer> its a small difference, but nonetheless
[07:02] <Ben64> Hyperiant: lspci | grep -i vga
[07:04] <Hyperiant> Ben64: ATI RC410M [Mobility Radeon Xpress 200M
[07:04] <Slart> energizer: ah.. I was just going to ask you for that.. so far I've tried with a test suite for png files and those all worked nicely using convert.. I'll try your image
[07:04] <Ben64> Hyperiant: :S not a very good chance of getting that working i fear
[07:05] <Hyperiant> It worked on Windows; the only reason I switched to Linux at all was because I'm told it runs faster
[07:05] <distilledchaos> I downgraded from 13.04 to 12.04, now the computer's internal display does not function, and the external monitor is at a lower, fixed resolution
[07:05] <Ben64> Hyperiant: ati doesn't support their old cards on linux
[07:06] <reisio> distilledchaos: why'd you downgrade
[07:06] <energizer> Slart i put both the png and the pdf up there. I guess what I want is something that makes the text smoother in the pdf, because it looks weird when zoomed-out-- inconsistent line-widths, etc.
[07:06] <Ben64> Hyperiant: run "lshw -C VIDEO" and see which driver is in use
[07:06] <distilledchaos> reisio: xserver-xorg-video-displaylink is only supported on 12.04 and 12.10
[07:06] <distilledchaos> and i need it
[07:07] <Hyperiant> Ben64: driver=radeon
[07:09] <reisio> distilledchaos: what is it?
[07:09] <Ben64> Hyperiant: from what i'm reading, that should do 3d
[07:10] <Ben64> Hyperiant: try pastebinning the outputs of the following two commands... "dmesg | grep drm" and "LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo"
[07:10] <Hyperiant> what's that command that creates a pastebin out of a command?
[07:11] <kostkon> !info pastebinit | Hyperiant
[07:11] <Slart> energizer: I can't really reproduce your results.. they look kind of the same when opened in an image-viewer and pdf-reader.. when I open them both in Gimp they look exactly the same so it might just be that your pdf-reader does something with the pdf
[07:12] <sudheera> Hi from where can I find feature request for ubuntu, I want to start contributing to ubuntu
[07:12] <energizer> Slart: oh holy shit you're right. In a different pdf viewer its way nicer...
[07:12] <reisio> sudheera: launchpad.net, methinks
[07:12] <kostkon> !contribute | sudheera
[07:12] <somsip> !contributing | sudheera
[07:12] <somsip> kostkon: ah - close :)
[07:12] <reisio> !contributization
[07:12] <kostkon> :P
[07:13] <somsip> reisio: hehe
[07:13] <Hyperiant> how do I use the pastebinit command in conjunction with a regular command?
[07:13] <Smiche> can some1 help me with finding the right drivers for my gfx card?
[07:13] <reisio> Hyperiant: regular | pastebinit, possibly
[07:14] <reisio> Hyperiant: or pastebinit $(regular)
[07:14] <somsip> !paste | Hyperiant
[07:14] <reisio> Smiche: ?
[07:14] <energizer> thanks slart
[07:14] <THE_DUDEZ0R> Hyperiant, you issue pastebinit /path/to/file
[07:14] <Smiche> the open source driver gets me GPU lockup CP stall sometimes and when i install fglrx from terminal the screen goes blurry with weird lines on the same resolution and compiz quits working
[07:15] <Smiche> now im trying to install the fglrx driver from amd's site that is for linux but it says it works for kernel 3.4 and mine is 3.5
[07:15] <THE_DUDEZ0R> where file contains the text you want to pastebin. issue pastebinit --help for some options
[07:15] <Ben64> Smiche: don't use the site, use the repository
[07:15] <Ben64> !ati | Smiche
[07:15] <wilee-nilee> Hyperbyte, command | pastebinit  is correct
[07:16] <Slart> energizer: you're welcome
[07:17] <Smiche> my graphic's card isnt in the supported list
[07:17] <Hyperiant> Ben64: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5782799/  LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo returns "glxinfo not installed"
[07:18] <safridzal> Smiche: paste here the result of this command: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[07:18] <Ben64> Hyperiant: well that looks good. can you run "glxgears" ? you'll probably need to install something for that to work
[07:18] <Smiche> lspci -nn | grep VGA
[07:18] <Smiche> oops
[07:18] <Smiche>  ATI RV670 [Radeon HD 3870] [1002:9501]
[07:18] <safridzal> on terminal
[07:19] <safridzal> afaik, you can use fglrx-legacy
[07:19] <Smiche> ye i keep forgetting ctrl+c doesnt work on terminal
[07:19] <safridzal> Smiche: you can block the text using mouse, and paste that text using middle click
[07:20] <safridzal> Smiche: open synaptic, reload, then search for fglrx legacy.
[07:20] <Smiche> should i first uninstall the driver i installed from amd's site?
[07:20] <energizer> Ctrl+Shift+C also copies in the terminal
[07:21] <Hyperiant> Ben64: glxgears runs
[07:21] <safridzal> yes.. if you've install the *****.run, you have to uninstall it first
[07:21] <Ben64> Hyperiant: then you have 3d!
[07:23] <Smiche> i think i have to restart first
[07:23] <Smiche> brb
[07:24] <Hyperiant> Ben64: The issue isn't the inability to support 3D, it's the ability to use hardware acceleration and support the versions of OpenGL that are used to run games ><
[07:24] <Ben64> Hyperiant: 3d = hardware acceleration
[07:25] <Hyperiant> Ben64: I was told radeon didn't support hardware acceleration, that's why fglrx is so much faster
[07:26] <Ben64> you won't be able to game on it anyway
[07:26] <reisio> yeah... because there's no such thing as games that don't require excessive 3d
[07:26] <Ben64> the Radeon Xpress 200M gets a benchmark score of 21
[07:26] <reisio> or is that all 'game' as a verb means anymore? 3d gaming? :p
[07:26] <Smiche> how to find broken packages?
[07:26] <Hyperiant> I'm only looking to run stuff like Torchlight, which works at 30 FPS in XP, and Awesomenauts, which is a purely 2D game
[07:27] <reisio> Smiche: how do you know they're broken if you can't find them
[07:27] <Ben64> compare that to my video card... the GeForce GTX 650TI ---- 2690
[07:27] <reisio> awesomenauts is 2d?
[07:27] <Smiche> when i ran synaptic said theres one broken package
[07:27] <Ben64> my card got 128 times higher of a score
[07:27] <reisio> hrmmm, maybe it is
[07:27] <Smiche> autormove would fix it?
[07:27] <reisio> Hyperiant: either it'll work or it won't, try
[07:28] <Smiche> i havent installed fglrx legacy just restarted after uninstall ***.run file
[07:28] <Smiche> and synaptic comes up with this error
[07:28] <kostkon> reisio, it's 2d looking 3d game like most of the 2d games nowadays
[07:28] <kostkon> a*
[07:29] <Hyperiant> reisio: Torchlight runs at a smooth 8 FPS before crashing on character select, and Awesomenauts refuses to even launch, though I blame buggy clients and poor drivers considering they worked just fine in XP
[07:29] <reisio> I was getting it confused with the other 'nauts
[07:29] <Ben64> Hyperiant: then maybe you should use windows xp?
[07:29] <reisio> Hyperiant: that's one way to approach it
[07:29] <reisio> me, I'd blame manufacturers that don't release decent drivers
[07:29] <Ben64> ati cards aren't very supported
[07:29] <reisio> sure they are
[07:29] <reisio> but not all of them are 100% perfectly supported
[07:29] <Ben64> old ones ati doesn't even want to hear about
[07:29] <reisio> you've found one
[07:30] <Ben64> its like 10 years old
[07:30] <reisio> not all things are 100% perfectly supported on Windows XP, either
[07:30] <Ben64> the fglrx driver no longer supports it
[07:30] <jpds> Ben64: Well, of course.
[07:30] <jpds> Ben64: You have to move on at some point.
[07:30] <Ben64> yep
[07:30] <alexandergranase> I have abandoned amd and ati a long time ago, always issues with those two
[07:30] <alexandergranase> Intel and nvidia works a lot better i find always
[07:30] <Hyperiant> thing is, from the research I've done, fglrx worked for it a year or so ago; can't I use the old version of the driver to get decent drivers again?
[07:30] <Ben64> amd cpus work great
[07:31] <Ben64> you'd have to use an old version of ubuntu, which isn't supported
[07:31] <Hyperiant> might unsupported ubuntu still run those games?
[07:31] <reisio> Hyperiant: sure
[07:31] <Ben64> if xp works, why try to fix something that isn't broken?
[07:31] <reisio> it's probably broken in other ways :p
[07:31] <Ben64> well yeah, its windows xp
[07:32] <reisio> Hyperiant: do you know which version of fglrx?
[07:33] <Hyperiant> XP is a laggy, run-down, maniacal, bloated crapheap of an OS that takes 5 minutes to boot up on a clean install (and no, I don't know exactly the fglrx version, unfortunately)
[07:33] <Smiche> reisio i tried to install fglrx legacy and i got this error E: /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx_2%3a8.960-0ubuntu1.1_amd64.deb: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[07:33] <reisio> Hyperiant: might be your next goal
[07:35] <Hyperiant> reisio: To the best of my knowledge, it looks like 8.543 is the version they dropped support in
[07:35] <Hyperiant> rather, they had support in that version, but dropped it in 8.6
[07:36] <Hyperiant> Though I'm reading from another source that 9.3 still supported my chipset
[07:37] <Hyperiant> http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.4.3.3.3.1&lang=English And lo and behold, my chipset is listed there; I assume I have to downgrade before I try using this, though
[07:39] <reisio> that's pretty old
[07:39] <reisio> maybe you should just get a new gpu for $20
[07:40] <Hyperiant> reisio: unfortunately, I have no PCI slot in my laptop
[07:41] <Smiche> heard of tweaks to make an external slot for a pci card but that would look bad
[07:41] <SeanHosie54> Am I in the right place for some support?
[07:41] <reisio> you can open laptops, even though it's not always fun
[07:41] <reisio> SeanHosie54: quite possibly
[07:41] <SeanHosie54> Im having trouble going to sites in my web browsers
[07:41] <Hyperiant> The best thing this has is a PCMCIA slot and I don't think you can get GPUs that fit that
[07:42] <SeanHosie54> it wont let me check my hotmail
[07:42] <Hyperiant> SeanHosie54: What happens when you try to check it?
[07:42] <SeanHosie54> just times out
[07:42] <Hyperiant> also, hotmail was shut down by microsoft earlier this year
[07:42] <Hyperiant> along with MSN messenger
[07:43] <Hyperiant> Outlook.com replaced it
[07:43] <SeanHosie54> no I can check it with my windows8 computer
[07:43] <k1lled> hey guys, where i can ask for help for Router(wifi), i have a problem.
[07:43] <Hyperiant> k1lled: I know a teensy bit about networking, what's your issue?
[07:44] <bazhang> k1lled, ##networking
[07:44] <k1lled> Hyperbyte: can we talk on private?
[07:44] <SeanHosie54> and if I go to isohunt.com and do a search it times out
[07:44] <k1lled> bazhang:  tnx <3
[07:44] <SeanHosie54> it seems to be a issue with only my ubuntu machines
[07:45] <SeanHosie54> Im having trouble going to sites in my web browsers
[07:45] <auronandace> SeanHosie54: what version of ubuntu and what version of browser?
[07:46] <SeanHosie54> 13.04 and latest for all browsers
[07:46] <auronandace> SeanHosie54: when you say latest do you mean ppas or what is in the official repos?
[07:47] <SeanHosie54> from there website it was downloaded
[07:47] <auronandace> SeanHosie54: ppas are not supported here
[07:47] <SeanHosie54> ?
[07:48] <auronandace> SeanHosie54: we can only support stuff that was installed via the official repos here
[07:48] <SeanHosie54> it was downloaded from the ubuntu software center
[07:48] <ouran> hallo
[07:48] <auronandace> SeanHosie54: you just said you got it from their website
[07:48] <SeanHosie54> only opera
[07:49] <SeanHosie54> chome and firefox from ubuntu software center
[07:49] <auronandace> SeanHosie54: you mean chromium, not chrome
[07:49] <k1lled> chromium in software center
[07:49] <SeanHosie54> yes
[07:50] <Smiche> reisio: I installed fglrx as you told me but now my screen looks odd - has some vertical white lines, and compiz effects have stopped working
[07:50] <reisio> as I told you to?
[07:50] <k1lled> chrome is better, download from official website
[07:50] <SeanHosie54> is there a firewall Im unaware of?
[07:50] <reisio> chromium is better, use your package manager
[07:51] <Smiche> well you told me to install fglrx legacy from synaptic as a fix to my driver issues
[07:51] <SeanHosie54> so can anyone help here?
[07:51] <auronandace> SeanHosie54: i'm using chromium now on 13.04 and i can login to my outlook (hotmail)
[07:52] <Joe_DM> SeanHosie54: Is this a home network?
[07:52] <SeanHosie54> yer
[07:52] <SeanHosie54> yes
[07:52] <reisio> Smiche: dunno if I did that...
[07:52] <Joe_DM> you can try changing you dns to somthin like google public DNS
[07:52] <Smiche> okay :S
[07:54] <SeanHosie54> how
[07:54] <Joe_DM> edit /etc/resolv.conf
[07:55] <Joe_DM> any changes you make will be lost on reboot so its good for testing
[07:55] <Joe_DM> replace the line "nameserver x.x.x.x" with "nameserver 8.8.8.8"
[07:56] <Joe_DM> when I say any changes made are lost on reboot I should add that is only if you have resolvcon installed
[07:56] <Joe_DM> which ubuntu does by default
[07:56] <SeanHosie54> I dont know this is giving me the shitts going to just re-install
[07:57] <Joe_DM> why reinstall
[07:57] <SeanHosie54> it was working fine before
[07:57] <Joe_DM> what exactly is the problem, I just got here?/
[07:58] <SeanHosie54> could conky cause browser probs?
[07:58] <auronandace> SeanHosie54: no
[08:11] <pikey5> clear
[08:24] <Twister> hi
[08:25] <Twister> just wondering if anyone could help me with ubuntu terminal command?
[08:25] <somsip> !anyone | Twister
[08:25] <Twister> Trying to do a make; and I'm getting a few errors
[08:26] <somsip> Twister: so it's a compilation from source issue?
[08:26] <Twister> apparently I am missing libcloog-pp10
[08:26] <Twister> however I'm searching Google and cannot find that package to install?
[08:26] <DJones> !find libcloog-pp10
[08:26] <somsip> Twister: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libcloog-isl-dev
[08:26] <somsip> Maybe?
[08:26] <Slart> Twister: it's libcloog-ppl0  L instead of 1
[08:27] <somsip> !find libcloog
[08:27] <somsip> Twister: so, possibly, one of those
[08:27] <Twister> ok so with that can I do "sudo apt-get libcloog-ppl-dev and so on"  to isntall the pacakge?
[08:28] <Twister> install*
[08:28] <somsip> Twister: that;s the idea. Not sure how mit and miss this might be given there are 4 candidates...
[08:28] <somsip> *hit and miss
[08:29] <Twister> hmm saying invalid operation
[08:29] <somsip> Twister: sudo apt-get install {package}
[08:29] <llutz> Twister: man apt-get (sudo apt-get install packagename)
[08:29] <Twister> thx will try now
[08:31] <Twister> it worked :)
[08:31] <somsip> Twister: cool
[08:32] <Twister> thanks somsip, llutz, ubottu, DJones, Slart
[08:32] <Twister> I appriciate your help :)
[08:32] <Baribal> Hi. I've tried doing "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386", but dpkg says "dpkg: error: unknown option --add-architecture". Neither man page nor dpkg --help know of --add-architecture. I'm using 1.16.1.2ubuntu7.1 and there doesn't seem to be an update for Precise. Any idea what to do?
[08:33] <somsip> Baribal: what is leading you to need to do that?
[08:34] <Baribal> somsip, the need to use Skype.
[08:34] <llutz> Baribal: according to dpkg changelog, it was added with 1.16.2
[08:34] <somsip> Baribal: I've never heard of that. Most people just install the Skype package and it works (mostly). It did for me. How are you installing Skype?
[08:37] <somsip> Baribal: Note that the Ubuntu dpkg in natty (1.16.0~ubuntu7 (reports 1.15.8.10)), oneiric and precise (1.16.1.2ubuntu7) uses a different syntax: http://is.gd/osQeGA
[08:38] <pikey5> hallow!! i installed idle-python27 on my ubuntu 13.04,wondering howto make .py file right-click-open-with-idle possible ?
[08:38] <Baribal> somsip, I assume that I have to add some repositories, 'cause by defaut there is no skype package in Precise.
[08:39] <Biomechd> hey guys, i'm trying to use an online program called audiotool but it says that i need flash player to view it. i have flash installed because i can watch youtube and stuff, though. how do i fix this?
[08:40] <wsnipex> skype is in the canonical partner repo
[08:42] <pikey5> why not just go to the official website and download it?
[08:42] <somsip> Baribal: like wsnipex says, just enable the Partner repo
[08:43] <bathman> anyone that can help me make a bootable install cd for ubuntu 8.04 ? to contain a tar file (with the distro ready to use) ?
[08:43] <somsip> !8.04 | bathman
[08:44] <k1l_> !eol | bathman
[08:44] <bathman> somsip : i know, unfortunately 8.04 is the only choice - we have an outdated touchscreen driver
[08:45] <somsip> bathman: then you may struggle to get someone who knows about it. Now is not the best time as this channel is usually busy when more of the western world is awake.
[08:45] <somsip> *busier
[08:45] <bathman> and the 8.04 will be residing in the tar
[08:46] <Ben64> doesn't matter, 8.04 is still not supported
[08:46] <bathman> somsip : ic, forgot about that
[08:46] <Ben64> it's over 5 years old
[08:46] <somsip> bathman: but likely  you'll hit the official response which is, !eol
[08:47] <bathman> so in fact, all i need is a bootcd that can partition and format ext3, and untar to that ext3 partition - that's it
[08:53] <domedagen> Nouveau is causing my fresh instal of 13.04 to crash. Is there a way to change driver without logging in?
[08:54] <reisio> domedagen: crash how?
[08:57] <somsip> domedagen: boot to text mode, login and fix using cli
[08:57] <somsip> !text | domedagen
[08:58] <Slart> domedagen: if you can boot to a terminal instead of X/Gnome you can blacklist the nouveau kernel module
[08:58] <Slart> domedagen: I'm not sure what the backup plan is for X but it's worth a try
[09:03] <Twister> hmm running into some libcurl problems, such as "LIBCURL_CHECK_CONFIG(,"   trying to look how to resolve now just curious if anyone had any ideas
[09:04] <Twister> from what I can gather issue with the ./configure command
[09:05] <Zeev> eclipse makes unity taskbar disappear on 12.04 how can I restart it (on windows it would be start->run->explorer)
[09:06] <reisio> Zeev: ls /usr/bin/*unity* might have a clue
[09:06] <reisio> if 'unity' is actually in the executable name
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> it is
[09:06] <reisio> might check bar / panel / menu
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> try:  unity --replace
[09:07] <reisio> there's nothing for the task bar on its own?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> no idea there
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> personally
[09:07] <reisio> personally is the way I like it, baby
[09:09] <rocinante_> hola
[09:09] <rocinante_> :)
[09:09] <reisio> shalomx0r
[09:09] <reisio> :D
[09:13] <operatormplik> hy
[09:16] <allanv> any pptp vpn expert here?
[09:16] <DJones> !ask | allanv
[09:17] <DJones> allanv: Just explain your question in detail, if anybody can help, they'll normally reply
[09:18] <azertyui> hello there
[09:18] <azertyui> is it possible to install ubuntu on windows using qemu ?
[09:19] <reisio> azertyui: yup
[09:19] <gordonjcp> azertyui: should be, it'll run in any virtualisation container
[09:19] <azertyui> if yes how reisio
[09:19] <reisio> azertyui: exactly as the qemu docs say
[09:20] <reisio> azertyui: why do you want to?
[09:21] <azertyui> well let me explain what i have done i start download qemu from here http://lassauge.free.fr/qemu/release/Qemu-1.4.2-windows.zip then ubuntu server iso http://releases.ubuntu.mirrors.uk2.net//precise/ubuntu-12.04.2-server-i386.iso
[09:22] <reisio> azertyui: why do you want to use qemu?
[09:22] <azertyui> then i put the iso on qemu folder
[09:22] <Ben64> uh, this isn't qemu support
[09:22] <Ben64> !qemu
[09:22] <Ben64> hmm
[09:23] <Ben64> irc.oftc.net #qemu
[09:23] <rocinante_> !qemu
[09:23] <reisio> it's unlikely he's got a good reason to use qemu for anything at all
[09:23] <azertyui> then i start create a file called run.bat something like that http://paste.ubuntu.com/5783074/ but don't want work
[09:23] <reisio> azertyui: not so much with the listening, are you?
[09:23] <azertyui> yes of course
[09:23] <azertyui> tell me what you want ,
[09:23] <azertyui> ?
[09:24] <reisio> azertyui: why do you want to use qemu?
[09:24] <mathnode> virtualbox on windows would provide you a faster Ubuntu Server Experience™
[09:24] <Ben64> azertyui: this isn't qemu support, that is located at irc.oftc.net #qemu
[09:24] <azertyui> qemu is better known for emulator os
[09:24] <azertyui> that's why i would like to use qemu
[09:24] <reisio> azertyui: mmm, I don't know that it is
[09:24] <Ben64> thats fine, just go to the qemu support
[09:24] <reisio> VirtualBox will be faster, as mathnode says
[09:24] <reisio> and also much simpler to use
[09:25] <azertyui> virtualbox is for dummy
[09:25] <reisio> on a _Unix host_ qemu/kvm will be faster and easier to use, though :)
[09:25] <reisio> azertyui: even if that is so, it'll be faster than qemu
[09:25] <DG8FV-B9TKY-FRT9> !xen
[09:25] <reisio> !spam
[09:26] <azertyui> well when you face with problem is find out solution not by pass with other one
[09:26] <azertyui> well what 's wrong with my config ?
[09:26] <reisio> azertyui: unless the other solution is far superior
[09:26] <reisio> azertyui: that's a question for #qemu
[09:26] <azertyui>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5783074/
[09:26] <Ben64> azertyui: go. to. the. qemu. support. channel.
[09:26] <azertyui> are you there ? Ben64 reisio
[09:26] <Ben64> no
[09:26] <mathnode> My Virtualisation Solution is better than Your Virtualisation Solution!
[09:26] <azertyui> i m allready there
[09:27] <azertyui> no one
[09:27] <Ben64> then stop asking here
[09:27] <azertyui> actually there
[09:27] <reisio> well it's 5:30am
[09:27] <reisio> maybe let them wake up
[09:27] <allanv> Using Ubuntu Natty 11.04 64bit. Installed pptpd just fine. I enabled the ppp module at my VPS but i encountered new error again "Jun 20 12:48:06 auckland pppd[448]: Please load the ppp_generic kernel module. " I tried to # modprobe ppp_generic
[09:27] <allanv> WARNING: Deprecated config file /etc/modprobe.conf, all config files belong into /etc/modprobe.d/.
[09:27] <allanv> FATAL: Module ppp_generic not found.
[09:27] <Ben64> allanv: 11.04 is no longer supported
[09:28] <llutz> azertyui: 176 people in #qemu, not you
[09:29] <azertyui> how to filter if there are online or idle ? llutz
[09:29] <azertyui> seems there is no response to my question
[09:29] <allanv> Ben64: Can you atlest provide a valid link please that pptp on 11.04 64bit is no longer supported?
[09:29] <azertyui> tell me first fi you are present there ?
[09:29] <mathnode> I am going to make a note of this for the next meeting I have with colleagues, with an agenda focused on virtualisation. +1 for qemu because it's harder to use so it must be good. -1 for virtualbox because it's for dummies. Promotion here I come!
[09:30] <gordonjcp> allanv: 11.04 is no longer supported
[09:30] <Ben64> azertyui: stop asking here. this is not qemu support. this is ubuntu support. we can't help you with it.
[09:30] <llutz> azertyui: the channel is on  "irc.oftc.net", not on freenode...
[09:30] <reisio> 'cept for the 115 people in #qemu
[09:30] <Ben64> allanv: you really really should upgrade, especially on a server you're leaving it vulnerable to attack
[09:31] <azertyui> there is also qemu channel available on freenode
[09:31] <azertyui> you can join there llutz
[09:31] <llutz> azertyui: why should i
[09:31] <azertyui> ok
[09:32] <azertyui> hold on
[09:32] <mob001> hi, how to get the last hour CPU statistics in ubuntu
[09:32] <allanv> Ben64: Like apt-get upgrade? Or upgrade it to the latest e.g 12.04?
[09:33] <Ben64> allanv: 12.04
[09:35] <git> hello
[09:35] <vlt> Hello git! I haven’t used you in a long time.
[09:35] <vlt> (Oh … gone)
[09:36] <bpietro> hi, anybody else has this problem: using unity w/ 9 wirt desktops, after some hrs of work some inactive app windows wander from destop to another (typical Skype window, but not only it, open on virt dtp 9, find on any else after 20 minutes) nothing I can't survive, but annoyng
[09:38] <reisio> bpietro: could maybe hack a fix with wmctrl
[09:39] <allanv> Ben64 gordonjcp Thanks! :)
[09:41] <bpietro> reisio: tnx
[09:43] <Shubham_Rao> hi
[09:44] <reisio> hi there Shubham_Rao
[09:45] <bpietro> reisio: see, it's frustrating, workin on dtp 1, skype alert shows, ctrl-alt-9 and stared with empty dtp. For now I want only know: it's only my problem or sbd else found it too?
[09:46]  * reisio shrugs
[09:48] <bpietro> maybe unity bug database research helps
[09:53] <azertyui> llutz: hello
[09:53] <reisio> llutz: hello
[09:58] <Ashael> hello
[09:58] <reisio> 'lo ash
[09:58] <Ashael> 'lo
[09:59] <Ashael> Q: how do I use jokcey to turn on a wireless module?
[09:59]  * Ashael prods sere
[10:00] <sere> Ashael: use the command line : sudo modprobe brcmsmac
[10:01] <Ashael> hmmm
[10:01] <sere> Ashael: that should be all you need to get your wifi up and running
[10:02] <Ashael> it doesn't seem to recognize the networks, but i need to check if they're not offline
[10:03] <sere> Ashael: you should be able to pick up something in the scan
[10:03] <subthalamus> can ubuntu be used with a wsd scanner?
[10:04] <Ashael> sere: the networks here went down this morning, it's possible they're still offline (i'm connected through wired)
[10:04] <reisio> subthalamus: wsd?
[10:04] <reisio> subthalamus: some windows protocol?
[10:04] <sere> Ashael: so you got it working and now it down again ?
[10:04] <reisio> subthalamus: potentially
[10:05] <Ashael> sere: i mean the wireless network here at work
[10:05] <subthalamus> reisio: oki mc342dn
[10:05] <Ashael> the module seems to be on, but it's not picking them up - and they are up.
[10:05] <sweettea> GUYS! I updated to 13.04 and flash runs like crap now!! Any advice?
[10:05] <Ashael> have you updated flash?
[10:06] <DJones> subthalamus: There is a list of supported scanners at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Scanners Looking at that, there doesn't appear to much support for Oki scanners
[10:06] <mathnode> Why do we have flash installed again?
[10:07] <Ashael> hmm, now it found the networks
[10:07] <Ashael> but they are all very weak
[10:07] <Ashael> ~30%, should be about 80% or more.
[10:08] <sweettea> I believe I have updated flash yes
[10:08] <sweettea> mathnode: because this is a desktop machine?
[10:08] <mathnode> I mean in general, the scope of media delivered through the intrawebs. I can't remember what provoked me to install it. Probably cat videos.
[10:09] <sweettea> plenty of media comes in flash format
[10:09] <mathnode> There was a cool flash game that came with the last Humble Indie Bundle that was flash, and thus cross platform. Insidios 2 or something.
[10:10] <Ashael> sere: any idea why the networks would be detected as low signal strength when I know it to be high?
[10:11] <gordonjcp> Ashael: interference
[10:11] <sweettea> I also noticed skype does now show up in the package manager now
[10:11] <gordonjcp> Ashael: the "signal strength" display is showing signal to noise ratio, rather than RSSI
[10:12] <Ashael> hmm
[10:12] <sere> Ashael: yea one sec im looking for something
[10:12] <Ashael> gordonjcp: doesn't sound right, it was fine before.
[10:12] <gordonjcp> Ashael: uh-huh, and you know for certain that nothing has changed?
[10:13] <Ashael> no, but my cellphone seems to find it in high signal.
[10:13] <Ashael> which means something has changed with the comp
[10:14] <gordonjcp> Ashael: your phone might be showing RSSI rather than S/N
[10:15] <Ashael> well, it always did, and since nothing has changed with the network, it means the comp is now showing S/N when in the past it showed RSSI - or something is b0rk with the driver.
[10:15] <sere> Ashael: whats your iwconfig say
[10:15] <vnc786> can at a time both 3.5 and 4.04 version of LO can be run. i am having 3.5 installed but want to try LO4.0.4
[10:15] <Ashael> wlan0     IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:off/any             Mode:Managed  Access Point: Not-Associated   Tx-Power=19 dBm              Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off           Encryption key:off           Power Management:off            lo        no wireless extensions.  eth0      no wireless extensions.
[10:16] <sere> Ashael: heres my signal strength
[10:16] <sere>           Link Quality=67/70  Signal level=-43 dBm
[10:17] <Ashael> ok?
[10:17]  * Ashael confused
[10:18] <sere> Ashael: try to connect to your server and then run iwconfig
[10:18] <Ashael> my server?
[10:19] <sere> Ashael: sorry its 5:20am here.. im pretty tired :x isp networn / isp .. connect using your wifi card
[10:19] <Ashael> not sure i understand.
[10:20] <sere> Ashael: you are still connect to the net with your ethernet i believe.. try to connect using your wifi card
[10:21] <sere> Ashael: then we can go from there and test
[10:21] <Ashael> which means disconnecting the wired?
[10:21] <Ashael> sorry, i'm pretty clueless when it comes to networks
[10:23] <sere> Ashael: no you dont have to disconnect.. your router will get you another ip
[10:23] <sere> no worries
[10:23] <Ashael> what exactly do you mean by "connect through the wifi"?
[10:25] <sere> Ashael: do you use your wifi card to get an internet connection? What I mean is enter your wifi info essid and wpa password or whatever you use to get to a connection
[10:26] <Ashael> you mean, connect to a wireless network?
[10:27] <sere> Ashael: yea :)
[10:27] <Ashael> heh duh
[10:27] <sere> hehe
[10:27] <Ashael> it no longer picks up any signal :(
[10:27] <sere> Ashael: hmm
[10:27] <N41T> hello there, some one know how to do the log in to freenode?
[10:28] <rravisha> its /msg nickserv identify <password>
[10:28] <N41T> rravisha, Thnx!!
[10:28] <rravisha> no problem
[10:29] <Speiros> Can someone direct me where to go to get help with the webcam program "cheese" please.
[10:31] <gordonjcp> Speiros: just ask in here..
[10:32] <sere> Ashael: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ please pastebin..  sudo lshw -C network .. you might have to installed lshw. if so its sudo apt-get install lshw
[10:32] <Speiros> Ok, thanks gordonjcp.  Sometimes I go to open Cheese, and it doesn't open, just hangs.  Other times it says device can't be found.  But the time which I DO like, which happens, apparently randomly, is when it opens properly.  Why are there such discrepancies?
[10:33] <Speiros> It's opened up as a grey box, at present, and I'll have to force quit to close it.
[10:33] <Ashael> sere: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5783244/
[10:36] <sere> Ashael: everything looks good to me.. try iwlist wlan0 scan
[10:36] <sere> Ashael: that will scan through the console
[10:37] <Ashael> wlan0     No scan results
[10:38] <casshern> hi everyone!
[10:38] <Rarrikins> At login, I am told system load and so on. It repeats the part about how many packages are ready to be upgraded. How do I fix it to show them only once?
[10:43] <sere> Ashael: run lsmod and see if there is another broadcom driver loaded.. could be conflicting with current.. not really sure why it acting up though
[10:44] <Ashael> sere" maybe b43?
[10:45] <sere> Ashael: that could be it.. you dont need that
[10:46] <sere> Ashael: sudo rmmod b43
[10:46] <Ashael> k, what's the command to remove it? iwconfig -r b43?
[10:46] <Ashael> ah
[10:46] <sere> cloe :D
[10:46] <sere> close *
[10:47] <Ashael> sere: I'm going to try and reboot. back in a few, thanks for the help so far!
[10:47] <sere> Ashael: your welcome
[10:52] <Ashael> back
[10:52] <Ashael> sere: i rebooted and the module is off again or something :(
[10:54] <TakumoKatekari> Hi All,I have a problem where Gvim isn't working, it just brings up a grey square which I can't kill or do anything to...
[10:54] <TakumoKatekari> I happened when I upgraded from 12.10 to 13.04
[10:54] <sere> Ashael: run lsmod and see if b43 is there
[10:55] <Ashael> yup :(
[10:55] <adeebnqo> TakumoKatekari: you can't even kill it via the terminal?
[10:56] <Ashael> there are also bcma and ssb
[10:56] <Ashael> which may also be part of it
[10:57] <sere> Ashael: ok lets do this : sudo rmmod b43 && modprobe bmca && modprobe brcmsmac && modprobe brcmutil
[10:58] <Ashael> Module b43 is not currently loaded
[10:58] <sere> Ashael: ok skip that then
[10:58] <monoman> hello
[10:58] <rravisha> hello there
[10:58] <monoman> I'm using Ubunut server here
[10:58] <monoman> command line without X
[10:59] <monoman> it seems fun to use it that way!
[10:59] <sere> Ashael: b43 is probably being started at boot because of the old driver.. in any case we can just blacklist it so it doesnt start on boot
[10:59] <Ashael> sere: no change.
[10:59] <monoman> but I still need to figure out some comman line commands
[11:00] <vlt> !enter | monoman
[11:00] <monoman> Is there a way to remove unneeded packages from apt-get other than the usual apt-get autoremove or apt-get purge?
[11:01] <jrib> monoman: apt-get autoremove is what you want. Before that feature was implemented, there was deborphan.  Why do you ask?
[11:01] <monoman> because I was messing with my ubunut server and I believe I installed a lot of unneeded dependencies
[11:02] <sere> Ashael: go ahead and sudo rmmod ssd : from what im reading that could affect it too
[11:02] <Ashael> ssd or ssb?
[11:02] <sere> Ashael: ssb :)
[11:02] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:03] <monoman> I've got another question, how can I play sounds on Ubuntu server? I installed alsa-utils and tried aplay but I got an error
[11:04] <Ashael> sere: no change. I'm afraid I have to log off now, so thank you very much for all the help. I'll come back when I have the time.
[11:04] <monoman> So, does playing sounds needs X to be installed??
[11:04] <Ashael> bye
[11:05] <sere> Ashael: ok have a good one.. your welcome :)
[11:06] <monoman> Sorry if I repeat my question but I'm not sure it was sent in the first place: does playing sounds require X to be installed??
[11:06] <jrib> monoman: if you installed packages you no longer want, then just remove them.  If you install a package, apt will assume you want it
[11:07] <monoman> Thanks jrib, I removed the packages that I installed myself, but will autoremove remove all the unneeded dependencies??
[11:07] <jrib> monoman: that is how it should work, yes
[11:08] <monoman> jrib: good. Thanks :)  So, do you know any way to play sounds (or even simple beep) using ubuntu server command line?
[11:09] <gordonjcp> monoman: play
[11:09] <jrib> monoman: sorry, I haven't done that in a long time.  I don't remember needing to do anything special though
[11:09] <monoman> gordonjcp: will that play audio files or beep?
[11:10] <monoman> and why the character /a (which should be bell) doesn't play any sound on ubuntu server 12.04?
[11:11] <jrib> monoman: your / is backwards :)
[11:21] <casshern> hahaha very funny... do  you remember?
[11:22] <casshern> any app to record my desktop on Ubuntu 13.04?
[11:23] <DJones> !screencast | casshern
[11:23] <casshern> thank you
[11:29] <casshern> and one more question guys? do you know why all the time my wifi fails in any linux. on win7 i never had issues. my network card is rtl8187 realtek and ralink 5390
[11:29] <wasanzy> I have a server which is having an Internet modem plug to it so it gets DHCP IP no public IP. and I want to setup  VPN on it so that, from my laptop I can ssh to the server, is it possible with openvpn?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> casshern: omgubuntu has a few, with reviews
[11:30] <oal> any ideas why suddenly I have to press ctrl first in any ctrl+shift/alt+... shortcut? Very annoying
[11:32] <casshern> on opensuse 12.3 also desconect me a lot
[11:33] <alumno> ola marica
[11:33] <alumno> s
[11:33] <alumno> s
[11:33] <alumno> d
[11:33] <alumno> fer
[11:33] <FloodBot1> alumno: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:33] <casshern> que paso marica
[11:34] <blue_steel> what?
[11:34] <wasanzy> I have a server which is having an Internet modem plug to it so it gets DHCP IP no public IP. and I want to setup  VPN on it so that, from my laptop I can ssh to the server, is it possible with openvpn?
[11:34] <tu> tu puta madre m tioo
[11:34] <casshern> la tuya
[11:34] <tu> ss
[11:34] <tu> tu puta mdre
[11:34] <blue_steel> you whore mother uncle????
[11:35] <casshern> Blue_steel had all the reason you're a ...
[11:37]  * blue_steel *pouts
[11:39] <casshern> what's my name? dime vequero!
[11:40] <casshern> vaquero! XD
[11:41] <Layke> Is there a command to "pause" terminal. Basically, I'm running something that pipe lots of output to screen
[11:41] <Layke> I want to stop it so I can read momentairly, and resume every so often
[11:42] <k1l_> casshern: keep it to english in here please or join the spanish channel
[11:42] <k1l_> !es | casshern
[11:42] <bgardner> Layke: Ctrl+S to pause, Ctrl+Q to resume
[11:42] <casshern> ok thanks
[11:42] <reisio> Layke: pause key
[11:42] <th0r> Layke, haven't used it in decades, but ctrl S and ctrl Q used to do the job. And you know you can pipe to less as well
[11:42] <trueif> i have a Problem.i recently installed an nvidia driver from ppa(i don't know remember the version)and also installed the latest nvidia driver from nvidia website.i did that because i had problems with resolution.In adddition i modified /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log and now when i boot it comes with the logo but then it shows a blank screen and i can't do nothing!
[11:43] <MickS> Layke: or run it in screen or script, so you can read/scroll back
[11:43] <trueif> also my laptop is a sony vaio and it came with hybrid gpu,an intel + nvidia
[11:44] <Layke> Yeah, I thought Ctrl+Q would do it. For some reason it isn't when I am SSH'ed in to a remote host. (I assumed that suspend/resume would be to do with your local terminal, but I guess it's the actual environment.. *shrugs*
[11:44] <Layke> I'll pip and less perhaps if that works.
[11:45] <MickS> Layke: for remote jobs I can advise screen... then the job will continue even if your ssh connection drops, and you can pick up the terminal window when you re-login
[11:45] <casshern> danke, see ya
[11:46] <MickS> Layke: (just be sure to start the screen on the remote server of course)
[11:47] <Maple__> how do you prevent the creation of files in ubuntu with a certain name - i.e. asdfgh.log?
[11:48] <trueif> i have a Problem.i recently installed an nvidia driver from ppa(i don't know remember the version)and also installed the latest nvidia driver from nvidia website.i did that because i had problems with resolution.In adddition i modified /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log and now when i boot it comes with the logo but then it shows a blank screen and i can't do nothing!
[11:49] <reisio> trueif: grep EE /var/log/Xorg*log
[11:49] <trueif> reisio, i am the guy from yesterday :D
[11:50] <reisio> trueif: someone was bound to be that guy
[11:50] <MickS> reisio is not from yesterday
[11:50] <trueif> reisio, do you want the output from this?
[11:50] <reisio> I'm from yestermillennium
[11:50] <reisio> trueif: not especially
[11:51] <trueif> then what?
[11:51] <trueif> i believe that if i could unistall the nvidia drivers
[11:51] <MickS> trueif: the output might give you an idea what is wrong
[11:51] <trueif> then the problem would be solved
[11:51] <reisio> trueif: what's stopping you?
[11:51] <trueif> i can't log in
[11:51] <MickS> trueif: you know how to get into a terminal? (press ctrl-alt-F1)
[11:51] <trueif> i can't
[11:51] <MickS> those are your text terminals, outside of X
[11:51] <trueif> look
[11:51] <reisio> trueif: can you CTRL+ALT+F2?
[11:52] <trueif> i boot up then it shows me the logo
[11:52] <trueif> and then a blank screen
[11:52] <reisio> trueif: can you CTRL+ALT+F2?
[11:52] <trueif> i did not tried
[11:52] <trueif> can you tell me more combinations?
[11:52] <trueif> don't boot up all the time
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> trueif: what GPU do you use?
[11:53] <trueif> nvidia gt 640m le
[11:53] <reisio> trueif: X runs on tty7, (CTRL+ALT+F7), try using CTRL+ALT+F2
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> trueif: is it a lapto pwith a hybrid / switchable GPU?
[11:53] <trueif> yes
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> trueif: try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> trueif: you will need to look into bumblebee to manage that mess
[11:53] <trueif> external monitor did not work and i make the mistake to download the driver from website
[11:54] <trueif> yeah but i first i must go to the terminal
[11:54] <trueif> can you tell me the command that removes all the nvidia related?
[11:54] <trueif> it's purge something..
[11:54] <trueif> i can't remember
[11:56] <MickS> apt-get purge <packagename>
[11:56] <trueif> so, sudo apt-get purge nvidia* ?
[11:56] <trueif> i want to remove all nvidia related
[11:56] <MickS> should do the trick
[11:57] <trueif> it's true that 32 bit offers better battery compared to 64 bit?
[11:58] <reisio> trueif: not that I'm aware of
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> trueif: sudo apt-get --purge remove `dpkg -l | grep nvidia | grep -v nvidia-common | awk {'print $2'}`
[11:59] <trueif> that's a lot stuff :D
[12:01] <trueif> anyways thanks to all i tried and then i'll come back here
[12:01] <trueif> for the progress
[12:13] <TakumoKatekari> So yeah, anyone know why gvim doesn't work  after upgrading from 12.10 to 13.04 , killing the process doesn't kill the dead window.
[12:13] <TakumoKatekari> I just get the error (gvim:31666): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "pixmap" in my terminal
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> TakumoKatekari  ctrl-f2 xkill
[12:14] <TakumoKatekari> Still, I kind of need gvim for my work
[12:14] <zetheroo>  cannot ping hostnames on the network ... only IP addresses ...
[12:14] <zetheroo> I already added a line in /etc/network/interfaces like this "dns-search mt.local" and restarted the networking service ... but still no joy
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  that means it's a dns issue
[12:16] <TakumoKatekari> Maybe I should uninstall and recompile gvim from source?
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> TakumoKatekari  gvim-gnome is in the repos
[12:18] <TakumoKatekari> MonkeyDust: It's too out-of-date for my needs
[12:18] <TakumoKatekari> Also vim-gtk > vim-gnome
[12:18] <dustin> Just installed 13.04, new user here. I can't boot to the OS, unless I use "nomodeset" within the grub menu. How can I avoid this? I find using it, is causing very laggy graphic performance. I do have an nvidia card, with optimus technology. I have already installed updates / drivers for the OS, including the intel graphics driver and nvidia / bumblebee.
[12:19] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: I also have a line in /etc/network/interfaces for dns-nameservers ...
[12:19] <bgardner> zetheroo: Show us your /etc/resolv.conf
[12:21] <zetheroo>  bgardner: there is nothing in there ... it just says "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN"
[12:23] <bgardner> zetheroo: Using paste.ubuntu.com, show us the output of 'nm-tool'
[12:24] <nyx_> Hi, I am desperate. I am on Ubuntu 12.04. I was using fglrx 12.9. I have installed the security updates, rebooted and now X doesn't want to load. I have uninstalled fglrx, installed radeon. No changement. When I try to start X from the terminal "startx" I get  "failed to load session ubuntu"
[12:25] <TakumoKatekari> MonkeyDust: gvim-gnome doesn't work either.
[12:25] <TakumoKatekari> Maybe I should just switch to Arch ;)
[12:25] <zetheroo> bgardner: nm-tool is not installed ...
[12:25] <reisio> TakumoKatekari: maybe
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> TakumoKatekari  or learn vim without GUI :)
[12:25] <bgardner> zetheroo: What's in /etc/issue
[12:25] <zetheroo> bgardner: this is a server ... so no network manager
[12:25] <TakumoKatekari> MonkeyDust: I have the gui disabled, I just don
[12:25] <TakumoKatekari> I can't use a 256-color terminal because my backspace doesn't work
[12:26] <zetheroo> bgardner: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[12:26] <k1lled> i have ati radeon 4530HD on my laptop video card and 13.04 ubuntu. How to install driver... this video is old .... :(
[12:26] <k1lled> fglrx or what?
[12:27] <bgardner> zetheroo: Okay, then paste.ubuntu.com your /etc/network/interfaces
[12:28] <ska> Is there a way to cut and paste between ubuntu and tightvncviewers?
[12:29] <zetheroo> bgardner: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5783506/
[12:29] <compdoc> ska, some vnc packages use vncconfig to enable the clipboard
[12:35] <bgardner> zetheroo: Try 'sudo resolvconf -u' and then examine /etc/resolv.conf and let us know if it has content.
[12:36] <nbubuntu> anyone here having problem loading youtube via flash support ?
[12:36] <zetheroo> bgardner: resolv.conf now looks like this:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/5783520/
[12:37] <bgardner> zetheroo: Okay, try your pings now
[12:38] <zetheroo> bgardner: still not working .. those dns entries in resolv.conf are not the right ones
[12:39] <zetheroo> bgardner: those are for the DMZ network configuration ..
[12:39] <ubuntivity> Hello
[12:40] <nbubuntu> Flash version 11.1 .Problem was fine last year but recent month, youtube load h alf way and stop , I need to wait for another 20 sec for it to start.even on the lowest 240p.
[12:40] <ubuntivity> I'm running ubuntu server 12.04, and I want to play a beep on a specific occasions within a script, how can I play a beep with predetermined duration and frequency?
[12:40] <zetheroo> bgardner: I need resolv.conf to carry the other dns entries .. but it seems to be ignoring them ...
[12:41] <nbubuntu> Using window xp works well smooth loading.
[12:41] <bgardner> zetheroo: I get what you're asking, but I don't know off the top of my head if resolvconf does what you want.  I'm reading the man page now: 'man resolvconf'.
[12:41] <gordonjcp> ubuntivity: didn't you ask that earlier?
[12:42] <gordonjcp> ubuntivity: did you investigate play or beep, like I said?
[12:42] <ubuntivity> yes, but got no answe and got disconnected from net
[12:42] <gordonjcp> ubuntivity: oh
[12:42] <gordonjcp> ubuntivity: well, like I said, investigate beep, or play
[12:43] <qwebirc61739> anyone??
[12:43] <gordonjcp> !anyone | qwebirc61739
[12:43] <qwebirc61739> who are you
[12:44] <ubuntivity> I installed beep, it doesn't make any sound at all!
[12:44] <qwebirc61739> where can i get min install instructions
[12:45] <ubuntivity> I vaguely remember that I've read once that something is disabled in Ubuntu 12.04 that cause pc speaker/buzzer to stay silent, is that true? or a confabulation of my mind??
[12:45] <bgardner> zetheroo: Show us the contents of /etc/resolvconf/interface-order
[12:45] <qwebirc61739> ok thanks
[12:46] <qwebirc61739> ubottu: thanks
[12:46] <ubuntivity> qwebirc61739: are you trying to install ubuntu?
[12:46] <zetheroo> bgardner: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5783546/
[12:48] <bgardner> zetheroo: You can add your br0 and br1 interfaces to that file to control their processing order for resolvconf.  Put them below the line reading "eth*" with br0 first, then br1 after, one per line.
[12:48] <bgardner> zetheroo: Then run 'sudo resolvconf -u' again and check your /etc/resolv.conf afterward.
[12:51] <cosmen> hello
[12:51] <reisio> hi
[12:51] <zetheroo> bgardner: well nothing changed in the resolv.conf file ...
[12:51] <ubuntivity> I've got beep working! I've commented the "blacklist pcspkr" line in /etc/modeprobe.d/blacklist.conf and then runned sudo modprobe pcspkr :)
[12:51] <ubuntivity> Welcome cosmen, reisio ^__^
[12:51] <cosmen> reisio,  what is a diference for Deterministic Read After Trim  and Read Zero after Trim
[12:52] <reisio> welcome ubuntivity :D
[12:52] <cosmen> :)
[12:52] <cosmen> is a problem with controller ?
[12:52] <reisio> cosmen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM#Hardware_support
[12:52] <cosmen> ok
[12:53] <leo-the-manic> Hi all, I realized there are some services on my machine that start at boot but I don't need: tomcat, apache2, mysql, sshd. I see for apache there's an init script in /etc/init.d but can I disable it without deleting the script?
[12:53] <leo-the-manic> In case I want to re-enable it in the future
[12:55] <zetheroo> bgardner: now my interface-order file looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5783572/
[12:57] <bgardner> zetheroo: You might get away with having * on the end of those lines, you might not.  Try the 'sudo resolvconf -u' command and see.
[12:57] <zetheroo> bgardner: I tried with and without the *
[12:57] <ubuntivity> one more question: After I removed pcspkr blacklisting, I'm getting a buzzer beep every time I use "tab" to complete the command I'm writing! How can I disable that without stopping beep from working?
[12:58] <SuperLag> TakumoKatekari: have fun with that Arch headache.
[12:58] <bgardner> leo-the-manic: 'sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/filename' to disable, 'sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/filename' to re-enable.
[13:00] <bgardner> zetheroo: And did those changes have any effect on the content of /etc/resolv.conf after running 'sudo resolvconf -u'?
[13:01] <zetheroo> bgardner: none whatsoever
[13:01] <phillustine> aloha?
[13:02] <phillustine> i know i'm in the wrong place, but does anyone know of a python irc channel?
[13:02] <Pici> phillustine: #python
[13:02] <reisio> phillustine: #ohnoitsasnake
[13:02] <SuperLag> :D
[13:02] <bgardner> zetheroo: Have you tried commenting out the second 'dns-nameservers' line in your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[13:02] <phillustine> pici: nice. are they also on freenode?
[13:03] <SuperLag> reisio: smart *** :D
[13:03] <reisio> phillustine: check and see
[13:03] <reisio> phillustine: additionally: /msg alis list *foo*
[13:03] <Pici> phillustine: yes.  You'll need to be identified to join though.
[13:03] <Pici> !register  > phillustine
[13:04] <phillustine> pici: aha. now i see
[13:04] <ubuntivity> what does the file ~/.inputrc exactly control? and if I don't already have it, will making one work?
[13:04] <phillustine> pici: sorry. say the pm first
[13:06] <testtoor> ActionParsnip, hey i did what you guys told but with no luck,iam in live usb now and i have access to the folders can this help?
[13:08] <ubuntivity> It worked, I placed "set bell-style none" in ~/.inputrc and I get no more beeps with tab :) [mentioning the solution just for the record!]
[13:10] <testtoor> i have a Problem.i wanted to connect my laptop with an external monitor but it does not work.so i installed nvidia driver from ppa(can't remember what version)this does not fixed the problem.so without remove the previous driver i installed the latest driver from the nvidia website.i had problems with resolution(640x480) and after that i edited the /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log when i boot it shows the logo and then a blank screen and i can't do not
[13:10] <testtoor> hing.iam using ubuntu 12.04.2 64 bit
[13:11] <ZenoArrow> Hi. Trying to boot Lubuntu into command line (no X). Have held down shift to get to GRUB. Where do I go from here?
[13:12] <BluesKaj> testtoor, can you boot into a tty , ctrl+alt+F1 to F6
[13:13] <testtoor> when i'll do that?
[13:13] <testtoor> i did that when i see the blank screen
[13:13] <testtoor> nothing
[13:13] <BluesKaj> at the balnk scrn
[13:13] <testtoor> no luckl
[13:13] <testtoor> luck*
[13:13] <testtoor> can the live cd help me?
[13:14] <testtoor> i want to unistall all nvidia related things
[13:15] <Kuroshita> hey guys, just looking for a simple way to get scripts to start on startup in ubuntu server
[13:15] <acerimmer> testtoor, sounds like ubuntu is thoroughly confused with the display drivers.  My suggestion is to do  PPA purge and see if you can then reconfigure .  Try booting to the command line so you can get control.
[13:15] <testtoor> why can i do that
[13:15] <testtoor> how*
[13:16] <testtoor> recovery mode does not work in graphical mode
[13:16] <BluesKaj> testtoor, purging nvidia is probly a good thing to do since you have conflicting drivers installed
[13:17] <acerimmer> testtoor, which is why I suggested command line
[13:17] <testtoor> yeah,but how can i go to the command line
[13:17] <BluesKaj> he can't get to a tty
[13:17] <acerimmer> BluesKaj, can you advise him on this.  over my head
[13:18] <BluesKaj> acerimmer, you're correct but he needs to reinstall ...it's the best course of action
[13:18] <testtoor> no!!!!
[13:18] <testtoor> i hate reinstall
[13:19] <testtoor> it must be a way other than that
[13:19] <BluesKaj> testtoor, as much as you hate a blank screen that doesn't respond
[13:19] <testtoor> i can change that i can paint it bluie
[13:19] <testtoor> blue*
[13:19] <testtoor> :D
[13:20] <acerimmer> testtoor, be a man/woman and take your medicine.  None of LIKES to reinstall but sometimes it's the only way ...
[13:20] <testtoor> you like blue eh? :D
[13:20] <BluesKaj> have you tried holding the shift key down after the bios screen , testtoor , to bring upo grub ?
[13:20] <testtoor> i can go to grub but what can i do from there
[13:20] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset | testtoor
[13:22] <testtoor> yeah,i don't understand a thing
[13:22] <testtoor> BluesKaj, maybe a little
[13:23] <BluesKaj> testtoor, then you can remove the nvidia drivers that don';t work for you , and checj the recommended ones in additional drivers.
[13:23] <testtoor> BluesKaj, yeah the thing is that i did not have any drivers in addition drivers
[13:24] <testtoor> Never
[13:24] <BluesKaj> testtoor, then use nvidia-current driver , sudo apt-get install nvidia-current  , once you get to a tty or terminal
[13:25] <testtoor> BluesKaj, yeah the thing is i can't go to tty or terminal
[13:25] <BluesKaj> if you use the nomodeset setting in grub , you might , testtoor..maybe even your desktop
[13:27] <bmxscott1993> i got a problem it when i boot up my computer the ubuntu logo not there just purple screen with like now how old tv have that static snow screen i get a line in the middle of the screen where the ubuntu logo meant to be
[13:27] <testtoor> BluesKaj, i'll go with me good luck
[13:27] <testtoor> thanks
[13:27] <BluesKaj> read the tutorial about nomodeset , a few times , you'll figure it out
[13:27] <mjayk> bmxscott1993: can you go to tty1?
[13:27] <acerimmer> bmxscott1993, new install?
[13:28] <testtoor> BluesKaj, i got it
[13:28] <bmxscott1993> but it login screen clean with not static but only on boot up and log off
[13:30] <bmxscott1993> yes newer install and what do you mean tty1
[13:32] <acerimmer> bmxscott1993, boot to recovery mode and use the command line = tty  /// I suggest you reboot and try booting and older version of ubuntu at the grub menu.  Maybe a kernel upgrade scrambled things up
[13:33] <bmxscott1993> but just reinstalled the ubuntu using my own dvd and got the iso off the website
[13:33] <bmxscott1993> ok
[13:34] <bmxscott1993> il try it but do not have the old ubuntu got the 12.04 lts
[13:34] <acerimmer> bmxscott1993, every kernel upgrade means the "older" kernel
[13:34] <bmxscott1993> ow ok
[13:34] <acerimmer> bmxscott1993, it's still 12.04 but with earlier kernels.
[13:35] <bmxscott1993> did not no thank
[13:35] <acerimmer> bmxscott1993, no worries, mate.
[13:35] <kraM> Hi there. I need to install linux-generic-lts-raring in a 12.04. Reboot. Need to mount an iso. mount -o loop /path/to/.iso /mnt -> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[13:35] <kraM> Does anybody know something about that?
[13:35] <MonkeyDust> kraM  try a chroot
[13:36] <kraM> What would that chroot be for?
[13:36] <kraM> chroot /mnt /bin/bash failes with no /bin/bash. which bash -> /bin/bash.
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> kraM  depends on what you want to do
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> ok, or try furius, a GUI to mount iso's
[13:37] <jluc> Hello all,
[13:37] <ActionParsnip> kraM: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[13:37] <jluc> How can i switch off the CTRL+SHIFT+DRAG keyboard option that now brings a window close to the screen border ?
[13:37] <jluc> I want to use this shortcut for Gimp.
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> jluc: disable the grid plugin in compiz
[13:38] <jluc> thanks ActionParsnip i will look for that
[13:38] <kraM> Complete story: I need to build things using docker. docker requires at least uname -r >= 3.8. That needs to run in with Vagrant, and to support mount and port forwards I need to install VBoxGuestAdditions for the raring kernel. -- This is a iso file which I cannot mount after rebooting into the raring kernel (3.8.0-25).
[13:38] <bgardner> kraM: 'sudo mount -o loop,ro -t iso9660 isoimage /mnt/wherever'
[13:39] <kraM> bgardner: Wrong filesystem. Same file mounts fine within Arch.
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> kraM: try a GUI app, just for laughs
[13:40] <bgardner> kraM: I'm with ActionParsnip - did you MD5 test the ISO yet?
[13:40] <kraM> bgardner: No, one second.
[13:43] <kraM> Hm. I introduced a stupid bug in the provisioning script. Thanks guys.
[13:43] <erik__> Hi. Is it possible to load grub instead of refit on a macbook pro?
[13:44] <acerimmer> erik__, yes, but refit is probably better if your dual booting.
[13:44] <erik__> acerimmer, i can reach refit via alt
[13:46] <bmxscott1993> get the recovery screen up do any one no how to get the options up in the login screen logo thing
[13:46] <erik__> Today, I tried to setup arch linux and during installation i had to setup grub-efi on the efi partition of the system. From then on the system started into the grub installation of arch (ubuntu and macos were already installed).
[13:47] <bmxscott1993> where you can click the little ubuntu logo to change to recovery
[13:47] <bmxscott1993> then login like that
[13:47] <erik__> But I could not reproduce this setup with ubuntus grub installation :(
[13:47] <KeyboardNotFound> How to check which DNS I use ?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> KeyboardNotFound: nslookup   or cat /etc/resolv.conf
[13:49] <somsip> KeyboardNotFound: dig google.com and see what server responds
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> KeyboardNotFound: nm-tool | tail -n 8
[13:51] <KeyboardNotFound> somsip, ActionParsnip, Thanks you very much
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> well.....you have to know these things when you are king
[13:55] <zeryuio> is it possible to convert apt to wget ?
[13:57] <andreas> hi there
[13:57] <zeryuio> is it possible to convert apt to wget ?
[13:57] <somsip> zeryuio: you could wget a deb and install it, but otherwise your question doesn't really make sense
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> zeryuio  or create an alias
[13:58] <zeryuio> alias for what ? MonkeyDust
[13:58] <zeryuio> ok let me introduce my issue
[13:59] <zeryuio> i try to download something apt but not working but using wget it's working
[13:59] <andreas> i've installed active mq on an ubuntu machine using apt-get. Now i face the problem that i can not start it. I've already opened a stack overflow ticket at: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17189053/how-to-start-activemq-on-an-ec2-ubuntu-machine . Has someone faced that problem before or a similiar one ?
[13:59] <k1l_> zeryuio: please pastbinit the problem
[13:59] <zeryuio> so what port is used by apt and port used by wget ?
[13:59] <k1l_> !paste | zeryuio
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> zeryuio  use apt to install from the repos, use wget to download from the internet
[13:59] <zeryuio> i said my proxy server blocking
[14:00] <zeryuio> apt install but allow wget
[14:00] <zeryuio> so my question
[14:00] <zeryuio> is may be how to change port of apt to give same as wget
[14:00] <zeryuio> to able to work with apt as usual
[14:00] <bgardner> zeryuio: You're getting ahead of yourself.  Show us the error that apt gives you.
[14:01] <zeryuio> there is no error
[14:01] <zeryuio> it just only say 0%
[14:01] <zeryuio> progess
[14:01] <zeryuio> each time try to install  something
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> zeryuio: what is the output of:  df -h
[14:03] <zeryuio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5783747/
[14:03] <zeryuio> df -h
[14:03] <bgardner> zeryuio: Then it sounds like you need to let apt-get know about your proxy.  See: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-configure-ubuntu-desktop-to-use-your-proxy-server.html
[14:04] <zeryuio> i got uubuntu server edition
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> zeryuio: do you have web acces? do you use a proxy?
[14:04] <bgardner> zeryuio: Scroll down to the section that says "Terminal Proxy"
[14:05] <zeryuio> simply tell me
[14:05] <zeryuio> how i can able to download using wget and don't using apt ?
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> zeryuio: do you use a proxy for web access?
[14:07] <queen_lee> halo
[14:07] <zeryuio> yes
[14:07] <bgardner> zeryuio: To make apt-get use your proxy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5783756/
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> zeryuio: then you need to specify it in /etc/apt/apt.conf
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> zeryuio: so that apt-get knows to use the proxy
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> zeryuio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5783777
[14:12] <fungus304> i have been having problems with video playback since installing lubuntu 13.04. i have the intell 855gm chipset and i simply cannot get the correct driver anywhere. videos show half size and in blue and green. when i try to install drivers i get a 404 not found and reverts back to old drivers? what gives? ran fine on windows xp runninf like shit on ubuntu
[14:13] <hedin> Hi, I just updated a ubuntu-12.04 and rebooted, and now only lo is present in /etc/network/interfaces even tho I had conf'ed a br0 interface
[14:13] <fungus304> sorry purple and green video playback
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> fungus304: http://wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu
[14:15] <fungus304> is there not a simple way to install the intel 855gm video driver?
[14:15] <auronandace> fungus304: intel drivers are already in the kernel
[14:16] <zeryuio> ActionParsnip: i don't have apt.conf have to create this file or existing one ?
[14:16] <fungus304> thats what they keep saying but i can assure u that they are not quite right
[14:17] <fungus304> this is a clean install with updates
[14:17] <fungus304> still fucked
[14:17] <auronandace> !language | fungus304
[14:17] <fungus304> g2g be back later for some help
[14:17] <fungus304> alright i apologize
[14:18] <fungus304> just very frusterated that i cant watch video
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> zeryuio: yes, make it
[14:19] <dsathe> hey folks, there seems to be a load of change in the compiling mechanism for ubuntu kernels
[14:19] <zeryuio> if make it, it is not working
[14:19] <zeryuio> i just tested
[14:19] <dsathe> what is the right way
[14:19] <fungus304> anyways dr appointment for wife ill check back later
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> zeryuio: did you change it to your configs....
[14:19] <dsathe> i have got sources from the src package via apt
[14:19] <auronandace> !kernel | dsathe
[14:21] <zeryuio> yes of course
[14:21] <zeryuio> ActionParsnip:
[14:24] <sandeepr> anyone around who has used preseed to install ubuntu
[14:24] <back_> hello all is there somebody who have problem with power/reboot computer with 13.04 - My computer freeze if i click on Restart/Shutdown in gnome panel,
[14:25] <sandeepr> i'm using the preseed sample for the 12.04 from ubuntu site
[14:25] <sandeepr> and it fails at apt stage complainging bad archive
[14:26] <randomname> what do you guys recommend 12.04 or 13.04?
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> randomname  12.04 if you want long support, 13.04 if you want the latest stuff
[14:27] <mJayk> randomname: 13.04
[14:27] <sandeepr> the syslog says duplicate sources.list and 12.04.2 mirror does not support the specified release
[14:28] <randomname> what do you guys say about the battery life of 13.04 compared to 12.04?
[14:28] <mJayk> randomname: 13.04 gives me about 15% longer life than 12.04 did Toshiba satellite
[14:29] <k1l_> randomname: depends on your hardware and usecase. that is not comparable at all
[14:29] <StarOnD> how do I install kosmo gis ? I have already done sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntugis/ppa
[14:29] <stef1a> Using 13.04 and Chromium-Browser and IcedTea flash plugin. When I try to watch YouTube videos, I just get black boxes, no audio. YT works fine in Firefox. Help
[14:30] <stef1a> YT was working with Chromium Browser up until two days ago
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> stef1a  i have that too, try disabling html5, it's already reported in launchpad
[14:31] <stef1a> MonkeyDust: how do you disable html5?
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> youtube.com/html
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> youtube.com/html5
[14:31] <dsathe> auronandace: What i want to do is modify some config options
[14:32] <dsathe> what do i modify
[14:32] <dsathe> the usual way i just did make config
[14:32] <modernbob> stef1a: just use the normal chrome browser.. works fine
[14:32] <dsathe> or make xconfig
[14:32] <dsathe> this entire ubuntu way is confusing me
[14:32] <stef1a> MonkeyDust: doesn't work
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> dsathe: its just different
[14:33] <modernbob> stef1a: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/google_chrome
[14:33] <MonkeyDust> stef1a  restart the browser, maybe that helps
[14:33] <dsathe> i guess
[14:33] <dsathe> one method is i dculd use the old fashioned way
[14:33] <dsathe> but it would be nice to do it right
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> stef1a: isnt icedtea for java?
[14:33] <dsathe> any definitive guide
[14:33] <dsathe> ActionParsnip: ?
[14:33] <stef1a> ActionParsnip: idr
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> stef1a: can you please pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[14:35] <BAMbanda> I have the worst networking experience with Ubuntu
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> stef1a: http://pastie.org
[14:35] <BAMbanda> I am jealous of those who can use it with peace
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> BAMbanda: realtek cheapy gigabit ethernet, works out of the box
[14:35] <BAMbanda> I love linux, but I am furious over the past couple months with the new ubuntus
[14:36] <dsathe> BAMbanda:
[14:36] <dsathe> whats the issue
[14:36] <BAMbanda> i'm trying to use my asus wireless nic
[14:36] <BAMbanda> it works fine with windows
[14:36] <dsathe> can you pastebin your lspci -vv
[14:36] <dsathe> ill have a look
[14:36] <dsathe> BAMbanda: blam asus
[14:36] <BAMbanda> But with linux, it keeps disconnecting on its own and when I try to do /etc/init.d/networking restart my unity crashes
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> BAMbanda: what wifi chip does it use?
[14:36] <BAMbanda> dsathe: gimme a sec, Ill paste it for u
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> BAMbanda: try disabling ipv6
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> BAMbanda: also try disabling N speed on the wifi driver module
[14:37] <dsathe> BAMbanda: blame ASUS not ubuntu
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> dsathe: I bet disabling n speed si good :)
[14:37] <dsathe> probbaly
[14:37] <stef1a> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/JW9dC8p5
[14:38] <dsathe> i find ubuntu as one of the best os ever for networking
[14:38] <decci> I have Ubuntu 12.04 machine under which I installed pt-get install postfix. I dint see any main.cf file
[14:38] <dsathe> you will not believe the crazy shit you can do on it
[14:38] <BAMbanda> dsathe: I'm a strong believer in its potential
[14:38] <BAMbanda> thats why I want to cry when i see these garbage issues
[14:38] <BAMbanda> http://pastebin.com/qmsH6S0J
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> decci: try:  sudo updatedb; locate main.cf
[14:39] <zacktu> Is there a way to get CUPS to list all the printer drivers that it supports on my system?
[14:39] <dsathe> some insanly complex network stuff , ubuntu just works
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> stef1a: thats not ALL the output, please pastebin all the text
[14:39] <dsathe> BAMbanda: umm what have you pasted
[14:39] <dsathe> sorry
[14:39] <dsathe> clicked wrong link
[14:40] <BAMbanda> dsathe: lspci -vv
[14:40] <dsathe> yeah yeah ok gimme 5 mni
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> BAMbanda: try the ipv6 disable and disable N speed on the kernel module
[14:40] <BAMbanda> can you send me the cli commands for that?
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> this can help with RTL8188CE chips
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> BAMbanda: add the boot option:  ipv6.disable=1
[14:41] <stef1a> ActionParsnip: how do i pipe all of the output to a file
[14:41] <BAMbanda> ActionParsnip: am I editing /etc/networking/interfaces ?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> BAMbanda: gksudo gedit /etc/dfault/grub     will get you the write access you need
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> BAMbanda: no, you set the boot option in /etc/default/grub
[14:41] <dsathe> Ok BAMbanda i see it has a kernel module , what is the exact issue
[14:41] <stef1a> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/mnbRb8fz
[14:42] <stef1a> whoever suggested just using google-chrome: thanks, it works.
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> stef1a: lsb_release -a | tee ~/output; uname -a | tee -a ~/output; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark' | tee -a ~/output
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> stef1a: chrome kicks ass
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> stef1a: I'd just use chrome
[14:43] <stef1a> ActionParsnip: i'll prob just do that
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> problem is: i don't like google
[14:43] <stef1a> ActionParsnip: the command keeps fucking flowing onto the next line
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> BAMbanda: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network    what is the driver=   bit for the wifi device?
[14:43] <stef1a> life is so hard ;_;
[14:43] <dsathe> BAMbanda: ??
[14:44] <zacktu> join #cups
[14:44] <dsathe> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/qmsH6S0J -> rtl8192ce
[14:44] <bgardner> !language | stef1a
[14:44] <dsathe> that is the active module
[14:45] <BAMbanda> dsathe: Sometimes when I connect to the internet it works fine, but all of a sudden it will disconnect from the network and give me problems until I restart the comptuer which then it works fine
[14:45] <BAMbanda> I have wlan0 on a static ip
[14:45] <BAMbanda> same subnet as my default gw, so it should work fine
[14:45] <BAMbanda> but when it acts funny, I can't even ping my gw!
[14:46] <dsathe> hmm that is odd
[14:46] <dsathe> lets see
[14:46] <stef1a> ActionParsnip: how do i copy your command without the line breaks?
[14:46] <dsathe> what kernel u on /
[14:46] <stef1a> when i paste them into the terminal three commands get executed instead of one
[14:46] <bazhang> he's gone dsathe
[14:46] <dsathe> lol ok
[14:47] <BAMbanda> dsathe: It just disconnected me!
[14:47] <BAMbanda> i had to restart to come back on
[14:47] <dsathe> figured
[14:47] <dsathe> next time run sudo service networking restart
[14:48] <StarOnD> http://trac.osgeo.org/ubuntugis/wiki/UbuntuGISRepository  I have followed these steps. is kosmo gis included in this ? how dO I install it?
[14:48] <BAMbanda> dsathe: I did that, and it crashes my unity....
[14:48] <dsathe> you dont need to restart the computer for that sort of stuff
[14:48] <dsathe> ooh sorry i dont use unity :)
[14:48] <dsathe> lets sort this
[14:48] <dsathe> what kernel u on
[14:48] <BAMbanda> 3.5
[14:48] <dsathe> uname -r
[14:48] <dsathe> oh ok
[14:48] <FloodBot1> dsathe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:48] <BAMbanda> 3.8
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> BAMbanda: echo "options rtl8192ce ips=0 fwlps=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8192ce.conf > /dev/null
[14:50] <BAMbanda> ActionParsnip: I entered that, what is it supposed to do?
[14:50] <dsathe> ok so 3.8 hasd the modules
[14:50] <dsathe> its to do with powerstates
[14:50] <dsathe> turn off flpws
[14:50] <dsathe> should solve the issue
[14:50] <dsathe> may not like your battery too much
[14:51] <dsathe> but i doubt itll make too much of a diff
[14:51] <BAMbanda> hmm how do I do that? sorry lol I'm a noob, but that should change over time
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> BAMbanda: adds extra options to the module, can help
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> BAMbanda: reboot to test
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> BAMbanda: also
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> BAMbanda: make sure there are not lots of wii networks on the same channel as yours
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> BAMbanda: lots on the same channel will cause issues
[14:52] <dsathe> echo "options rtl8192ce fwlps=0" >> /etc/modprobe.d/modprobe.conf
[14:52] <dsathe> or make it make more sense
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> dsathe: the file is owned by root, so that will fail
[14:53] <dsathe> echo "options rtl8192ce fwlps=0" >> /etc/modprobe.d/wifi-hack.conf
[14:53] <vt102> How can I find the scripts that the "service" command is actually running?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> dsathe: users cannot write to the folder without sudo
[14:53] <dsathe> sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/wifi-hack.conf
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> vt102: read in /etc/init.d/name
[14:54] <dsathe> paste "options rtl8192ce fwlps=0" and reboot
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> dsathe: why not just use the command I gave and be done, why are more suggestions even needed when you are simply adding text to a file?
[14:54] <dsathe> sorry i missed something
[14:54] <dsathe> what command
[14:54] <BAMbanda> k
[14:54] <vt102> ActionParsnip: I don't have /etc/init.d/name (12.04)
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> 15:49 < ActionParsnip> BAMbanda: echo "options rtl8192ce ips=0 fwlps=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8192ce.conf > /dev/null
[14:55] <OerHeks> BAMbanda, use the line from ActionParsnip
[14:55] <BAMbanda> k
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> vt102: yes, but 'name' is the name of the service....right?
[14:55] <dsathe> ah i see BAMbanda yep ActionParsnip command works :)
[14:55] <OerHeks> & reboot
[14:55] <dsathe> didt look sorry folks
[14:55] <BAMbanda> i'll be back in 2 min after my reboot :0
[14:56] <vt102> ActionParsnip: Ah, sorry, yes.  But it is a "Symlink target for initscripts that have been converted to Upstart."
[14:56] <RobOakes> Is there a Ubuntu specific equivalent of oVirt (http://www.ovirt.org)
[14:56] <dsathe> reboot isn't necessary but , yeah wth , go on :D
[14:56] <weecol> !help
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> dsathe: you need to unload and reload the module, reboot is easier for casual users
[14:57] <weecol> !factoid
[14:57] <vt102> It's not clear to me from there where the real scripts are located.  Man upstart gives me the init man page, which isn't clarifying it for me, either.
[14:57] <arvut> heya, is it possible to resize the partitions of an existing install? I need a bigger root and got plenty of space left on /home
[14:57] <weecol> !current lts#
[14:57] <RobOakes> I understand that oVirt can be configured to run on Ubuntu, but it's preferred environment is currently Fedora. I'm just wondering if there is a data center virtualization product that is designed to run on Ubuntu.
[14:57] <arvut> I imagine i must do this inside a live env
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> arvut: could uninstall old unused kernels
[14:57] <arvut> ActionParsnip: done
[14:57] <weecol> !current lts
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> arvut: you cannot resize partitions in a booted OS of the same partitions
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> arvut: the partitions must be unmounted to be manipulated
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> arvut: you will need live cd
[14:58] <BAMbanda> Ok guys, I'm back, so it's working now, like it always has after a restart, lets just hope it stays connected
[14:58] <arvut> thats what I thought
[14:58] <dsathe> BAMbanda: welcome back :) hope this does it
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> arvut: or if you dual boot with another distro, that will do too
[14:58] <BAMbanda> thanks for all the help. I really like ubuntu, tremendously. Its my OS of choice, I just want everything to go smooth :/
[14:58] <arvut> and in there I can resize them? will parted do the job?
[14:59] <arvut> ActionParsnip: I actually don't. but i need to install win7 dual boot soon, so some maintenance is required
[14:59] <BAMbanda> dsathe: do you guys use bitcoins by any chance? I want to start giving little compensation for help I recieve
[15:00] <arvut> will the disktools included in ubuntu do the job? or should I work with fdisk/parted in terminal?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> arvut: liveCD for you then, be sure to run a full backup before you start in case of catastrophe
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> arvut: gparted will do it
[15:00] <dsathe> BAMbanda: haha no, iv'e herad a lot never really botherd to check it out :)
[15:00] <linguini> How can I install mysql info files?  apt-cache search --names-only mysql | grep -i doc # does not show any...?
[15:00] <dsathe> i got so much help here i owe it back :P
[15:01] <DJones> arvut: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ResizingPartition has guidance on resizing partitions, the important thing is to make sure you have backups just in case something does go wrong
[15:01] <BAMbanda> cool, positive momentum in this universe can't hurt :)
[15:02] <arvut> DJones: thx, backup of the system is not that important, but the personal files (not mine) must be backed up for certain.
[15:03] <SteveBell> hi all. how'd I partition a 3TB drive into a 2TB and 1TB partition?
[15:03] <SteveBell> it's a ext4 formatted drive
[15:04] <arvut> btw, is ubuntu really supposed to take up 8.5GB? seems rather much for a / filesystem
[15:05] <dsathe> hey jono
[15:05] <prime_> Hello all! I'm thinking of buying the sys76 galago. Is this a good idea or should I wait until we get reviews?
[15:06] <xangua> !ot
[15:06] <xangua> prime_: if it's good for you good then ;)
[15:06] <BAMbanda> #python
[15:06] <dsathe> xangua: I think its a valid place to ask about system76 based ubuntu laptops
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> BAMbanda: is it better?
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> arvut: try:  sudo apt-get clean
[15:07] <prime_> sorry if it's ot, but I want to run ubuntu flawlessly, as opposed to my optimus mistake last time
[15:07] <BAMbanda> ActionParsnip: so far so good :)
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> arvut: also, install bleachbit
[15:07] <BAMbanda> I will not make a conclusion until i get 24 hours of productive work
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> arvut: run it as user, then as root, watch settings or it will remove stuff you want
[15:08] <linguini> To answer my own question: visit http://dev.mysql.com/doc/ to download; ubuntu does not include the mysql documentation for licensing reasons.
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> arvut: also avoid options which say they will take a long time
[15:08] <dsathe> prime_: i would definitelt avoid optimus for now
[15:08] <BAMbanda> how do I register my nick to get on the #python channel?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> !register
[15:09] <dsathe> BAMbanda:  any specific python query ?
[15:09] <BAMbanda> dsathe: I just want to know how feasible it is to develop firefox extensions in python
[15:09] <Mark____> Does anyone in here use any boxes from system76?
[15:10] <Mark____> Wanted a second opinion if it's worth the money
[15:10] <jono> hey dsathe
[15:13] <jaya> Hello
[15:13] <dsathe> how is it going , great stuff on the ubuntu device alliance ;)
[15:14] <dsathe> BAMbanda: depends on what you are trying to build
[15:14] <dsathe> BAMbanda: mostly its XUl
[15:17] <sam_help> Hi all. How do I install 32bit version of a libary?
[15:17] <sam_help> ........./bin/as: error while loading shared libraries: libz.so.1:
[15:18] <sam_help> but zlib is installed, so I wonder if it's looking for the 32 bit version
[15:19] <SteveBell> can someone explain how to partition an ext4 drive?
[15:21] <sam_help> Steve: do you mean create an ext4 partition?
[15:21] <sam_help> SteveBell:
[15:21] <SteveBell> I have an external ext4 drive (3TB) and want to get 2 partitions (1x 2TB, 1x 1TB)
[15:21] <SteveBell> sam_help:
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> sam_help: how did you install the app requesting the file?
[15:22] <sam_help> SteveBell: well, I think you mean a drive that has an ext4 partition on it. What you need to do is resize the existing EXT4 partition to take up half the drive, which will make half the drive empty space. Then create an extra ext4 partition in the empty space
[15:23] <sam_help> Action: I fixed this problem now by installing apt-get install zlibc:i386 etc
[15:24] <sam_help> ActionParsnip: how the program got into that VM is a horrible messy story
[15:24] <SteveBell> sam_help: sounds good. but I can't find any options for that in disk utility
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> sam_help: cools, before the multiarch thing it was hell
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> sam_help: Ive done it by extracting files from debs and putting them where they are needed
[15:24] <someonewhoknows> i get this error when i tried to boot the fresh installed 12.04
[15:25] <sam_help> Steve: if you are booting from that drive, then it'll be tricky. if you are booting from it, I suggest you go burn a boot disk and partition from there
[15:25] <someonewhoknows> error: invalid arch independent ELF magic
[15:25] <sam_help> ActionParsnip: it's nice being in 2012 now
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> sam_help: indeed
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> sam_help: even if it is 2013
[15:26] <sam_help> SteveBell: If that is the case try this http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[15:26] <sam_help> gtg
[15:26] <sam_help> ActionParsnip: I don't like to run the bleeding edge year. better to stay a version behind until it's stable
[15:26] <sam_help> I'll upgrade in october some time
[15:27] <SteveBell> sam_help: not booting from that drive
[15:27] <SteveBell> it's just for data storage
[15:27] <someonewhoknows> i get this error when i tried to boot the fresh installed 12.04: error: invalid arch independent ELF magic
[15:29] <someonewhoknows> nobody?
[15:29] <sam_help> SteveBell: oh, well I've got to go but apt-get install gparted, then use gparted to resize and create the partitions
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> someonewhoknows: have you tested your RAM?
[15:30] <someonewhoknows> ActionParsnip, no
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> someonewhoknows: http://askubuntu.com/questions/72003/grub-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic-after-11-10-install-on-macbook-pro-5
[15:30] <tobyjones8> Hi
[15:31] <tobyjones8> I have a question to ask.
[15:31] <tobyjones8> I'm running a server on Ubuntu Server.
[15:31] <decci> I am trying to follow http://oxpedia.org/wiki/index.php?title=Open-Xchange_Installation_Guide_for_Ubuntu_12.04
[15:31] <tobyjones8> Is it possible to get multiple scripts to run on its own tty when the server boots up?
[15:31] <someonewhoknows> ActionParsnip, yeah this is what iam seeing but i don't know what to put in /dev/sdx
[15:31] <angs> I have a password protected rar file, how do I suppose to use the unrar command?
[15:31] <decci> While adding source.list and adding download.opensuse.org and running it shows Signature not verified
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> someonewhoknows: do you only have one drive?
[15:31] <someonewhoknows> ActionParsnip, yes
[15:32] <tobyjones8> someonewhoknows, should be /dev/sda1 then
[15:32] <angs> unrar -p -x file.rar, why it does not work?
[15:32] <tobyjones8> unless you have Ubuntu on a different partition
[15:32] <someonewhoknows> ActionParsnip, also it's uefi laptop
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> someonewhoknows: then it will be /dev/sda
[15:32] <tobyjones8> don't suppose anyone could answer my question?
[15:33] <someonewhoknows> ActionParsnip,  /home/ubuntu/Downloads/ubuntu-12.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso
[15:33] <someonewhoknows> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5784017/
[15:33] <weldan> tobyjones8, cron
[15:34] <weldan> ref: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-execute-cron-job-after-system-reboot/
[15:35] <someonewhoknows> ActionParsnip, wait a sec in /mnt should i put /dev/sda?
[15:36] <phillustine> can sb give me code for searching irc channels
[15:36] <phillustine>  e.g. i want to search for channels with "dog" in the title?
[15:36] <auronandace> !alis | phillustine
[15:37] <tobyjones8> weldan, thanks
[15:39] <someonewhoknows> i get this error when i tried to boot the fresh installed 12.04 error: invalid arch independent ELF magic
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> someonewhoknows: no idea, there are LOADS of web pages on this, have you searched the web any?
[15:39] <someonewhoknows> ActionParsnip, yes but i am confused
[15:39] <someonewhoknows> ActionParsnip, also i did install the same os without any problem
[15:40] <someonewhoknows> i don't know what the ******** is happening
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> someonewhoknows: http://askubuntu.com/questions/127718/error-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic-dual-boot-with-ssd
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> someonewhoknows: grub needs reinstalling to the mbr, basically
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> someonewhoknows: you can use this too, from liveCD http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[15:41] <dgfghghghjghj> (when) will there be kde 4.11 backports available for 12.04?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> someonewhoknows: probably cause by UEFI
[15:41] <someonewhoknows> it does not make sense
[15:41] <someonewhoknows> ActionParsnip, how can i check the signature
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | dgfghghghjghj
[15:42] <someonewhoknows> ActionParsnip, of the iso
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[15:45] <daya> any way to point do-release-upgrade to the local repo
[15:47] <phillustine> tips to improve my ubuntu performance?
[15:49] <someonewhoknows> ActionParsnip, in the previous link http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video what's the boot device?
[15:49] <follower> hey does anyone know if xfburn supports disc spanning?
[15:54] <angs> how can I check if my ubuntu has a driver for the graphic card (amd E2-3200 APU Radeon)?
[15:54] <SteveBell> is there a UI way to create two partitions on an ext4 (non system) drive?
[15:55] <legion59> If you go to the reposatories go get the driver installer,...that should work for you IF you need a driver updaate
[15:55] <legion59> but be forwarned,...Ive had problems with the ATI drivers
[15:55] <legion59> Crash and burn
[15:55] <tobyjones8> ATI drivers suck on Ubuntu
[15:55] <tobyjones8> ATI drivers suck anyway
[15:55] <legion59> yup,...
[15:56] <legion59> Best to use it as it is
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> tobyjones8: newer ones are less problematic but I'm avoiding them too
[15:56] <tobyjones8> yeah, but they're not the most stable things in the world
[15:56] <legion59> Ive found that if it works,...Its Good,...
[15:56] <legion59> Bio-Break
[15:56] <tobyjones8> not as bad as nvidia's drivers on Vista when it first came out
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> vista was a mess anyway
[15:59] <tobyjones8> yeah
[15:59] <tobyjones8> point taken
[16:02] <phillustine> can anyone help me with ubuntu performance?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> phillustine: details please
[16:02] <phillustine> just slow
[16:02] <Lebby1> lol
[16:03] <phillustine> did i amuse you lebby?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> phillustine: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:03] <Lebby1> yes :)
[16:03] <phillustine> ja, i'm 12.04 LTS
[16:03] <legion59> whats yor system reqs?
[16:04] <philinux> phillustine: what graphics card have you
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> phillustine: what is the output of:  lspci | grep -i vga
[16:04] <phillustine> Lebby1, glad to have brought a smile to your face.
[16:04] <legion59> phull: whats yoru system reqs?
[16:04] <Lebby> phillustine:  hehehe :D
[16:04] <THE_DUDEZ0R> Lebby, u  woman? pm me, i got a big big distro i can teach u ifunowatime...
[16:04] <phillustine> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c)
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> phillustine: is the OS fully updated?
[16:05] <legion59> CPU?
[16:05] <phillustine> ActionParsnip, no idea.
[16:05] <phillustine> how do i check?
[16:05] <legion59> greef,.....
[16:05] <pippo> HELP
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> phillustine: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> !help l| pippo
[16:05] <ohcomeon> ActionParsnip, tried the solutions from 2 websites the last one when i boot up it shows me the grub . http://askubuntu.com/questions/72003/grub-invalid-arch-independent-elf-magic-after-11-10-install-on-macbook-pro-5 in this what should i put in /mnt/boot?
[16:06] <legion59> Go get sysinfo
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> !help | pippo
[16:06] <legion59> its in the repository
[16:06] <madprops> how do you install skype on ubonto?
[16:06] <phillustine> legion59, is at his/her witt's end.
[16:06] <legion59> OH thats wasy
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> madprops: ubuntu, not ubonto
[16:06] <Lebby> madprops:  sudo apt-get instal skype
[16:06] <madprops> sudo apt-get it doesn't work
[16:06] <pippo> !help
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> madprops: grab the deb from the skype site o use partner repo
[16:06] <legion59> go to the skype site and get the ubuntu multiarch and just let it do its thing
[16:06] <ohcomeon> madprops, http://www.skype.com/en/download-skype/skype-for-linux/downloading/?type=ubuntu64
[16:06] <legion59> it will load and run
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> madprops: it is in the repos, you just have the partner repo disabled by default
[16:07] <madprops> ActionParsnip, the linux client is for 10.04/12.04
[16:07] <genii> madprops: You need to enable the "partner" repository, then do: sudo apt-get update.... then the: sudo apt-get install skype ...will work
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> madprops: still works
[16:08] <madprops> who are these partners
[16:08] <philinux> phillustine: you might have luck with the intel open source driver.  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/intel-release-graphical-installer-for-their-linux-drivers
[16:08] <madprops> sounds fishy
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> madprops: its a repo you can enable using software centre
[16:08] <phillustine> legion59, my cpu: model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T7100  @ 1.80GHz
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> madprops: its a ot of proprietary stuff
[16:08] <madprops> i enjoy my freedom
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> phillustine: is the OS fully updated?
[16:09] <legion59> OH nice,...have atelasst 2 gig of ram and y ou should be real good
[16:09] <steve__> does anyone have experience configuring request tracker, specifically 'RT_SiteConfig.d'?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> madprops: skype is proprietary, so not free
[16:09] <phillustine> philinux, thanks.
[16:09] <Lebby> madprops:  there is not a version of skype that is free
[16:09] <madprops> i know
[16:09] <Jayar> anyone else having issues with 13.04
[16:09] <madprops> why can't people into free im clients
[16:09] <legion59> 13.04,..just update the hell out of it
[16:09] <madprops> and protocols
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Lebby: you can type to skype using pidgin, which is free :)
[16:09] <legion59> and it works flawlessly
[16:09] <rclsilver> hi... i don't know how but now i have to press mouse button to scroll with wheel... any way to revert this feature and scroll a page when i use the mouse wheel?
[16:10] <madprops> i'll try pidgin
[16:10] <steve__> !patience
[16:10] <madprops> or empathy?
[16:10] <madprops> which is best
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> madprops: because its a proprietary protocol, so the only people who can make it is skype
[16:10] <legion59> LOVE PIDGON
[16:10] <Lebby> madprops:  yes as im, not as "full featured skype"
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> madprops: none are 'best'
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> madprops: its like asking 'what is the best colour?' its nonsense
[16:10] <madprops> in your opinion it might be
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> madprops: doesnt make it the best
[16:10] <philinux> phillustine: watch out for any gpg key errors after install. I had to manually sort that too. Although I have to say my acer 1410 was never slow so.
[16:10] <madprops> i'm interested in opinioins
[16:11] <ohcomeon> how can i find what /dev/sdx should my /mnt/boot is?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> madprops: you are using an OS that champions freedom and choice, yet you want a room full of strangers to tell you what to think?
[16:11] <madprops> yes
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> ohcomeon: run:  mount; df
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> madprops: thats crazy
[16:11] <philinux> phillustine: what are your pc/laptop specs and what do you mean by slow?
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> madprops: I use pidgin, only because of long standing use. Doesnt make it best
[16:12] <ohcomeon> ActionParsnip, i am on a live boot
[16:12] <Lebby> madprops:  i use pidgin, it has more protocols, but ... it has a basic gui
[16:13] <Lebby> madprops:  empathy is more beautiful but it has less plugin and protocols
[16:13] <Jayar> maybe cuz im runnin from a live usb then... cuz im gettin crazy freezing every few secs
[16:13] <madprops> can empathy into skype?
[16:13] <ohcomeon> ActionParsnip, about boot comes up
[16:13] <ohcomeon> ActionParsnip, nothing about boot comes up
[16:14] <phillustine> my cpu: 1.8 Ghz
[16:14] <Lebby> madprops: yes ... using pidgin libraries :D
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> phillustine: is the OS fully updated?
[16:14] <Lebby> madprops:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/15358/can-i-use-skype-through-empathy
[16:14] <X-Sleepy-X> Jayar: Ubuntu does tend to run a bit slower in a live-session.
[16:15] <phillustine> ActionParsnip, just in the process of doing that. does it make a lot of difference to performance?
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> phillustine: have you tried the 2D session from the login screen (obviously let the updates finish and reboot if needed)
[16:15] <phillustine> ActionParsnip, i never usually update. not sure why.
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> phillustine: updates fix bugs and issues, may also get newer drivers and even a new kernel
[16:15] <Lebby> phillustine:  yes, updating can improve perfomance
[16:16] <agrester> Hello all, I have a pretty serious issue, running 13.04 and the last kernel update seems to have knocked out my computer, I see the boot splash screen but it boots to a blank screen without any TTY access or anything...
[16:16] <phillustine> never turn my nose up at a new kernel
[16:16] <phillustine> Lebby, thanks.
[16:16] <Lebby> phillustine: i'm glad to help you!
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> agrester: if you boot the old kernel is it ok?
[16:16] <agrester> ActionParsnip, how do I get to the GRUB screen?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> agrester: hold SHIFT at boot
[16:17] <Serpiente> what's the difference between `su user` and `sudo -su user`?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Serpiente: su user will need the user's pass you are su'ing to
[16:17] <jrib> Serpiente: one is a valid command and the other is not
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Serpiente: sudo su user will need your user's pass and assumes you are in the sudo group
[16:18] <jrib> Serpiente: never mind, I misread
[16:18] <Lebby> :D
[16:18] <agrester> ActionParsnip, the kernel is 3.8.0-26-generic, I think it's bad
[16:18] <Serpiente> su user will only require if I am not root right?
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> agrester: try the older kernel and we can progress
[16:19] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: isn't 3.8.0-25-generic the latest from regular upgrades?
[16:19] <agrester> ActionParsnip, ok
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Serpiente: if you are root and su to another user youwill become that user, as root is all powerful
[16:19] <jrib> Serpiente: « su - user » (it is good practice to call it this way so env gets reset) is exactly the same as user logging in.  If however you do something like « sudo -i -u user » then you are acting using sudo.  It prompts for the password of your sudo user and you don't need tho password of "user"
[16:20] <madprops> ActionParsnip, PIDGIN CLOSES WHEN I TRY TO SKYPE WHAT IS THIS
[16:20] <agrester> X-Sleepy-X, it might be, but I don't know how it was updated, I think I might have used the proposed option in the Update Sources, I'll have to check, but then ActionParnsip will have to walk me through rolling back to the stable kernel
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> madprops: WHY ARE WE TYPING IN CAPS? WHAT DOES IT ACHIEVE?
[16:20] <jrib> Serpiente: and again, I modified your "sudo -su user" to "sudo -i -u user" because it is good practice to reset the environment
[16:21] <madprops> ActionParsnip, BECAUSE SEG FAULT
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> madprops: take your finger off shift, pok?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> ok*
[16:21] <Lebby> ahahahah
[16:21] <angs> how can I check if I have compositing video manager?
[16:21] <Serpiente> jrib: thank you
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> angs: ps -ef | grep compiz | grep -v grep
[16:22] <Serpiente> ActionParsnip: thank you as well
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> Serpiente: do you use proprietary video driver?
[16:22] <angs> ActionParsnip, thanks
[16:22] <agrester> ActionParsnip, X-Sleepy-X, the strange thing is that this problem happened after I tried to restart networking, I was attempting to setup a VirtualBox Ubuntu Server so I could do some development and testing, I restarted networking using one of the RC.D scripts and then the problems started happening
[16:22] <Serpiente> ActionParsnip: what makes you think that? no video driver at all *gg* ubuntu 12.04 as a server
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Serpiente: so no xorg ?
[16:23] <Serpiente> writing some doc on how to install and configure jenkins properly, and just wondered where the difference between those command were
[16:23] <Serpiente> nope
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Serpiente: you could add boot options and so forth to set modes etc, may help
[16:24] <Serpiente> ActionParsnip: I guess you are mistaking me with someone else
[16:24] <agrester> ActionParsnip, confirmed the bad kernel is 3.8.0-26-generic
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> likely, its beena long day
[16:25] <agrester> X-Sleepy-X, ActionParsnip, what do I do from here?
[16:25] <angs> I have amd e2-3200 APU radeon graphical card on my ubuntu and it works too slow on GUI related processes. how can I accelerate its working states?
[16:26] <angs> lshw -c video shows that it uses "radeon" driver and I am using generic ubuntu image (3.5 kernel)
[16:26] <agrester> How do I roll back the Kernel?
[16:29] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: Are you able to access the grub menu at boot? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#GRUB_vs_GRUB_2
[16:29] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: 2. Hold down (right) SHIFT to display the menu during boot. In certain cases, pressing the ESC key may also display the menu.
[16:30] <agrester> X-Sleepy-X, yes I did and I successfully booted into 3.8.0-25-generic
[16:30] <angs> how can I disable compositing window manager?
[16:30] <agrester> It's 3.8.0-26-generic thats bad or has a problem with my hardware, either way I need to roll it back, how do I do that?
[16:31] <mah454> Hello
[16:31] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: ok, good. now you will need to uninstall the 3.8.0-26-generic kernel.
[16:31] <agrester> X-Sleepy-X, how do I do that?
[16:32] <ska> PT down hard
[16:32] <mah454> I installed fglrx-13 package . now lightdm wont start ! this log : fglrx-13
[16:32] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: i will write some commands for you, but do not execute them just yet. And before confirming the execution read carefully what it will remove
[16:32] <mah454> sorry this log :http://paste.ubuntu.com/5784202/
[16:32] <adie> hi
[16:32] <agrester> X-Sleepy-X, ok
[16:33] <adie> is there some magical way to make ubuntu not try to access the internet through one of my two network connections?
[16:33] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: first run: uname -r
[16:33] <adie> I have two connections active at once, but only one of them has internet access, so I think if ubuntu tries to use the one without internet, it all kinda breaks
[16:33] <agrester> X-Sleepy-X ok
[16:34] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: make sure the kerner is 3.8.0-25-generic
[16:34] <X-Sleepy-X> kernel*
[16:34] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: run that command now
[16:34] <agrester> X-Sleepy-X, ok done, confirmed
[16:36] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: ok, now run this command, but before pressing y make sure it DOESN'T REMOVE MORE THAN 4 FILES, ok?
[16:36] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge linux-headers-3.8.0-26 linux-image-3.8.0-26-generic
[16:36] <ripthejacker> I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 . I noticed that gksu package is not installed because it is not a recommended way to use gui programs. So what is the recommended way to edit config files in Gui editors that require root access?
[16:37] <OerHeks> ripthejacker, gksudo
[16:37] <SonikkuAmerica> ripthejacker: OerHeks means just install gksu
[16:37] <DJones> ripthejacker: I normally use gksudo gedit filename for a GUI method, or sudo nano filename from a terminal
[16:37] <ripthejacker> OerHeks: it's not installed in 13.04
[16:37] <SonikkuAmerica> ripthejacker: But use gksudo, NOT gksu
[16:37] <HeyM-Cld> Hello, I am dual booting ubuntu 13.04 and trying to resize the partition. I resized the partition but, there is no free space, it seems it only made /host bigger. Can anybody help?
[16:38] <mah454> fglrx driver not work in ubuntu 13.04 , please view this log : http://paste.ubuntu.com/5784202/
[16:38] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: when it uninstalls the kernel, make sure it says something about the current version of the kernel while it runs the update-grub part
[16:38] <mah454> How can fix this problem ?
[16:38] <ripthejacker> SonikkuAmerica: yes they both are the same but I read an article that says it's not recommended and that's why it's not installed by default
[16:38] <OerHeks> SonikkuAmerica, no i didn't mean that, gksudo should be available standard
[16:38] <SonikkuAmerica> OerHeks: Although it's not with Unity.
[16:38] <ripthejacker> OerHeks: it's not anymore
[16:38] <SonikkuAmerica> Not in 13.04
[16:38] <ripthejacker> yes
[16:39] <ripthejacker> And i'm using 13.04
[16:39] <OerHeks> oh, bad decision to remove gksudo, it should not infringe
[16:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Tell 'em put it back in 13.10
 Hello, I have a laptop that can boot cd/dvd only. i'd like to boot it using grub and than load an OS that resides on an mmc card. is this possible? if it is how?
[16:40] <HeyM-Cld> I think its just a matter of changing it from "/host" to "/"
[16:40] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: how's it coming?
[16:40] <matanya> HeyM-Cld: what do you mean?
[16:40] <agrester> X-Sleepy-X, it removed them and their associated kernel modules
[16:41] <HeyM-Cld> read my other post
[16:41] <HeyM-Cld> (@matanya)
[16:41] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: don't reboot until you have confirmed that you have a kernel
[16:41] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: do you see the ...-25-generic kernel if you run? : sudo update-grub
[16:42] <matanya> HeyM-Cld: i see, sorry, can't help.
[16:42] <agrester> X-Sleepy-X, I saw GRUB update the latest kernel was 3.8.0-25, and 'uname -r' reveals the same
[16:42] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: ok, try rebooting now _without_ pressing shift
[16:43] <HeyM-Cld> Ok then
[16:43] <agrester> X-Sleepy-X, one more thing, I'm checking Software & Sources, should I uncheck raring-backports and leave proposed, updates and security?
[16:44] <HeyM-Cld> Can anyone help??
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> a warning should popup if someone should enter 'gksudo nautilus'
[16:44] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: uncheck proposed leave the rest
[16:45] <agrester> X-Sleepy-X, proposed is for really super unstable stuff, like testing?
[16:45] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: it is pre-released upgrades
[16:46] <servercbe> hello! I'm back!... Question... I have 25 imac  Mac OS X 10.1, 128 mb Ram, PowerPC G3 and i want to run with LTSP.. Is it POSSIBLE?????
[16:47] <auronandace> !ppc | servercbe
[16:47] <servercbe> 25 imac  Mac OS X 10.1, 128 mb Ram, PowerPC G3 and i want to run with LTSP.. Is it POSSIBLE?????
[16:47] <jpmh> I need a command line command that will give me the local ip address on the LAN through which I am connected.
[16:47] <servercbe> ok.. I will read now...
[16:48] <X-Sleepy-X> jpmh: ifconfig
[16:49] <jpmh> X-Sleepy-X: true - I was hoping for something by which I did not need to look through so much stuff - or is there a switch for ifconfig so this is all I get
[16:49] <HeyM-Cld> X-Sleepy-X: Do you know how to solve my problem?
[16:50] <agrester> X-Sleepy-X, restart is normal so far, now logging in, everything is normal, thanks for the help that was super tricky, that's the famous Linux reliability for you!
[16:51] <X-Sleepy-X> jpmh: perhaps: ifconfig | grep addr
[16:51] <st34lth_> #bash
[16:52] <zero2XIII> jpmh: what info are you trying to display from ifconfig?
[16:52] <oal> For some reason I have to press ctrl+shift+... and shift+ctrl+... doesn't work anymore. Happens in any application. If I press ctrl first, no shortcuts work. Any ideas?
[16:52] <X-Sleepy-X> agrester: :) glad i could help
[16:53] <jpmh> zero2XIII: I just want the LAN ip address by which I am currently connected
[16:53] <BluesKaj> jpmh, try route -n , that gives the gateway IP , not the machine IP
[16:55] <zero2XIII> oal: jpmh, ifconfig eth | grep 'inet addr:' | cut -d: -f2 | awk '{print $1}'
[16:56] <jpmh> BluesKaj: yes - but I want my ip address
[16:56] <oal> zero2XIII, not for me, right?
[16:56] <X-Sleepy-X> zero2XIII: i wonder if typing that goes faster than reading the output of ifconfig... :)
[16:56] <jpmh> zero2XIII: yep - that is what I was trying to awoid - but I guess that will work
[16:56] <zero2XIII> oal: sorry hahaha.. No idea why that is still there I wanted to ask what version ubuntu you running
[16:56] <SonikkuAmerica> X-Sleepy-X: Doubt it :P
[16:56] <BluesKaj> jpmh, web IP ?
[16:57] <oal> zero2XIII, :) Ubuntu 13.04 with Unity
[16:57] <jpmh> BluesKaj: not sire what you mean  - but I want the local address on the local LAN so the above ifconfig etc does work
[16:57] <BluesKaj> jpmh, go to , whatsmyip.com
[16:57] <stfu> Howdy
[16:57] <zero2XIII> oal, what shortcut are you trying to use that has that issue?
[16:57] <stfu> Any devs available?
[16:57] <zero2XIII> jpmh, X-Sleepy-X, sure but just do an alias for the command
[16:58] <jpmh> BluesKaj: no - that is what I do not want, that is the WAN address, I want the LAN address
[16:58] <stfu> NICK Jimmyk
[16:58] <oal> zero2XIII, lots of them, ctrl+shift+t to reopen a closed tab in Firefox, as an example, as well as lots of shortcuts in PyCharm/Intellij
[16:58] <BluesKaj> jpmh, exactly how are you connecting to theinternet , pls describe your connection
[16:58] <jpmh> zero2XIII: I agree - was just hoping there was some command to do it
[16:58] <X-Sleepy-X> zero2XIII: true, true
[16:59] <jpmh> BluesKaj: always connecting through a local router/lan, sometimes that is on another LAN etc.  But I just need the local/LAN IP address of the machine
[16:59] <zero2XIII> jpmh: X-Sleepy-X: No command to ONLY display the LAN address, doing an alias if you want this regularly is the best way in my opinion.
[16:59] <zero2XIII> oal: hmmm
[17:00] <zero2XIII> oal: give me a second, I recall something I did to fix this issue on my system... But cant find it right now.. Just a sec
[17:00] <donvito> i am currently on Ubuntu 12.04.2LTS with gnome classic  due to low graphic card i want to upgrade to 13.10 but can i still use gnome classic?
[17:00] <oal> zero2XIII, something weird: When I press shift+ctrl in my terminal, the cursor turns into a bordered box, as if the terminal wasn't active/selected. When I do the opposite, it shows as normal
[17:01] <HeyM-Cld> Hello, I am dual booting ubuntu 13.04 and trying to resize the partition. I resized the partition but, there is no free space, it seems it only made /host bigger. Is there anyway I can make "/" bigger
[17:01] <savio> Hi
[17:01] <oal> HeyM-Cld, try Gparted
[17:01] <HeyM-Cld> Im using it now
[17:01] <HeyM-Cld> There is no way to change it
[17:02] <jpmh> X-Sleepy-X: I agree - thank you to all that offered suggestions
[17:02] <oal> I think you need to unmount the disk, HeyM-Cld
[17:02] <BluesKaj> jpmh, ifconfig | grep inet
[17:02] <demophobia> Does Ubuntu have software to work with (e.g. annotate) PDF files? If so, can one manipulate text annotations to be left-aligned, center-aligned, etc?
[17:02] <madprops> Lebby, how do you get Empathy to skype?
[17:03] <HeyM-Cld> oal: I mean, there is no option for it
[17:03] <donvito> i am currently on Ubuntu 12.04.2LTS with gnome classic  due to low graphic card i want to upgrade to 13.04 can i still use gnome classic?
[17:03] <tgm4883> probably worth mentioning that ifconfig if being deprecated
[17:03] <bmxscott1993> got a problem made a video to show you my problem need help fixing it https://www.dropbox.com/s/nf8yt7tc18gwa4n/20130620_164831.mp4
[17:03] <Lebby> madprops:  i used pidgin with skype ... but only as im
[17:03] <zero2XIII> oal: have you played with settings in the compiz config manager before?
[17:03] <gordonjcp> bmxscott1993: what's the problem?
[17:03] <jpmh> BluesKaj: that will not work - since it gives all the interfaces - I do need to get the one that is connecrted - I was just hping that there may be a command,  it is easy enough to work around - so thatnk you all
[17:03] <bmxscott1993> boot up screen
[17:03] <oal> HeyM-Cld, not sure then. I haven't used gparted in a while
[17:04] <oal> zero2XIII, not much
[17:04] <bmxscott1993> the link is the video
[17:04] <bmxscott1993> https://www.dropbox.com/s/nf8yt7tc18gwa4n/20130620_164831.mp4
[17:04] <gordonjcp> bmxscott1993: the video was too long
[17:04] <gordonjcp> bmxscott1993: what's the actual problem?
[17:04] <zero2XIII> oal: oka cause there are some functions if you enable them, they grab key combinations they shouldn't
[17:04] <usr13> !ubuntu
[17:04] <BluesKaj> jpmh, route -n will give your internet gateway/router address if that's what you mean
[17:05] <tgm4883> jpmh, are you using network manager?
[17:05] <bmxscott1993> i got no ubuntu logo on boot up and it just purple and like static on the screen it the same when i turn it off
[17:05] <bmxscott1993> but it login
[17:05] <gordonjcp> bmxscott1993: CRT or LCD?
[17:05] <bmxscott1993> and all clear on the login screen
[17:06] <bmxscott1993> crt
[17:06] <gordonjcp> bmxscott1993: wrong video mode, you're using a mode your monitor doesn't support correctly
[17:06] <Kai_p_IE> some how if my pc locks on board starts and i dont know why i am running ubuntu 12.04
[17:06] <benbloom> so I uses dd_rescue to clone an ailing HD, now I have this enormous file but I'm not sure what I can do with it.
[17:06] <MonkeyDust> what's the purpose of  word 'complete' in that factoid?
[17:06] <usr13> !nomodeset | bmxscott1993
[17:06] <zero2XIII> oal: try opening compiz settings manager, then go to preferences, and export your current settings then reset to default and see if your shortcuts work properly
[17:06] <Kai_p_IE> some how if my pc locks on board starts and i dont know why i am running ubuntu 12.04LTS
[17:06] <jpmh> BluesKaj: No, what I want is what I get from the ifconfig - I just need to parse it.  I want the local/LAN ip address of the machine I am on
[17:06] <gordonjcp> bmxscott1993: bet it looks like the logo is in there somewhere but it's all diagonal stripy rubbish that moves across the screen?
[17:06] <bmxscott1993> but never had the problem when running 13.04 but needed lts so when back to 12.04
[17:06] <usr13> bmxscott1993: Or could be that 3d is broken on your system.
[17:07] <oal> zero2XIII, hmm, haven't changed anything lately. Will do that. Have to go for a bit. Will try when I'm back. Thanks!
[17:07] <gordonjcp> bmxscott1993: do you get as far as a grub prompt?
[17:07] <usr13> bmxscott1993: (You can opt for 2d at the login screen.)
[17:07] <erle-> SSH in nautilus is broken
[17:07] <zero2XIII> oal: cool no worries, try that. you can import the settings again if it didnt do anything
[17:07] <bmxscott1993> no can not see it but it go to login screen
[17:07] <erle-> "ssh unexpectedly exited"
[17:07] <usr13> bmxscott1993: Try 2D
[17:07] <bmxscott1993> and it all ok there just on boot up
[17:08] <bmxscott1993> screen
[17:08] <erle-> please try somebody and file bug
[17:08] <bmxscott1993> and log off screen
[17:08] <tgm4883> jpmh, I assume that was at me?
[17:08] <BluesKaj> jpmh, what exactly do you mean by your LAN IP , that's the same as your router IP , which is the gateway IP , or route -n
[17:08] <bmxscott1993> read up that it called a splash screen
[17:08] <X-Sleepy-X> jpmh: you gonna like this: hostname -I
[17:08] <usr13> bmxscott1993: What you really mean is that the desktop is not complete after login. Right?
[17:09] <usr13> X-Sleepy-X: -i  ?
[17:09] <zero2XIII> BlueKaj, he wants to display his computers local IP (inetadr in ifconfig)
[17:09] <bmxscott1993> no it all good and fine  just when booting up it meant to come up with the ubuntu loading screen then to login
[17:09] <X-Sleepy-X> usr13: capital i
[17:10] <gordonjcp> bmxscott1993: if it's just during boot, ignore it
[17:10] <bmxscott1993> ok
[17:10] <gordonjcp> bmxscott1993: how much time do you spend staring at boot screens anyway? ;-)
[17:10] <jpmh> guys - what I want is EXACTLY what I get from the ifconfig as long as I parse it to the inet address.  We have it.  THANK YOU ALL
[17:10] <usr13> X-Sleepy-X: Oh, well, they both work, it's just that -i shows only the IP
[17:10] <gordonjcp> bmxscott1993: can you pick stuff from the grub menu, and see the desktop?
[17:10] <Kai_p_IE> some how if my pc locks on board starts and i dont know why i am running ubuntu 12.04LTS
[17:11] <BluesKaj> zero2XIII, I asked him that he said no , he wants LAN IP which I interpret as the router IP , gateway IP
[17:11] <bmxscott1993> but say if i need grubs up to fix it throue recover i can not
[17:11] <bmxscott1993> cus it all purple
[17:11] <zero2XIII> BlueKaj: Oh, well seems he got it now with hostname -I... The result he wants
[17:11] <usr13> X-Sleepy-X: (Earlier versions of hostname did not have option I (only i).
[17:11] <bmxscott1993> no cus it all purple with static
[17:12] <X-Sleepy-X> usr13: :)
[17:12] <bmxscott1993> so can not see ubunt logo or grubs
[17:12] <angeloal1ighty> irssi
[17:13] <sharif> any one help me
[17:13] <usr13> bmxscott1993: Not sure, but sounds like nomodeset
[17:13] <usr13> bmxscott1993: Fresh install?
[17:13] <Kai_p_IE> !help | sharif
[17:13] <bmxscott1993> il send a link of the video http://goo.gl/RGi36
[17:13] <bmxscott1993> can you see the link
[17:14] <bmxscott1993> i did to a fresh install with a dvd
[17:14] <sharif> ubuntu 13.4 karnel update commend plzz
[17:14] <HeyM-Cld> !patience
[17:15] <BluesKaj> sharif, sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[17:15] <follower> does anyone know a program which i can span data over 10 dvd?
[17:15] <sharif> ubuntu 13.4 karnel update commend plzz
[17:15] <sharif> ok
[17:16] <Kai_p_IE> sharif, they gave you it
[17:16] <usr13> bmxscott1993: That's all?  Just stops with screen that says "Ubuntu 12.04"?
[17:16] <anev> o/
[17:16] <anev> appears my external is dying
[17:17] <billy__> hi is there anyway to dualboot a palm pre 2 with hp webos and a linux os
[17:17] <anev> anything i could try for the following: http://pastebin.com/yPwAzeLh ?
[17:17] <billy__> or just change it to a linux os
[17:17] <usr13> bmxscott1993: Are you sure you waited long enough?  (It just looks the system is not finished booting.)
[17:17] <bmxscott1993> yer that do not come up or grub it just purple when that meant to show the ubuntu
[17:17] <usr13> bmxscott1993: Not sure, but sounds like nomodeset
[17:17] <mrguser> hi
[17:18] <X-Sleepy-X> mrguser: hi
[17:18] <bmxscott1993> no it did but then i turn it off then on to test but now it just purple and static like
[17:18] <mrguser> r u admin?
[17:18] <X-Sleepy-X> mrguser: no
[17:18] <usr13> bmxscott1993: But the video you sent us does not show what you desribe.
[17:18] <mrguser> Ok
[17:18] <bmxscott1993> then go static to the login screen
[17:19] <X-Sleepy-X> mrguser: may i ask why you ask?
[17:19] <usr13> bmxscott1993: Sounds like nomodeset.  See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[17:19] <Kai_p_IE> !ask | mrguser
[17:20] <angeloalmighty> does anyone here still using 10.04?
[17:20] <mrguser> any 1 know about wifi hack?
[17:20] <mrguser> From mobile
[17:20] <angeloalmighty> @mrguser i dont think that's possible
[17:20] <mrguser> its possible
[17:20] <usr13> angeloalmighty: Well, those that are on ubuntu-server may still be....
[17:20] <reisio> angeloalmighty: why do you ask?
[17:20] <mrguser> But
[17:20] <DJones> mrguser: Hacking isn't an apprpriate topic for this channel
[17:20] <reisio> mrguser: about what?
[17:21] <Kai_p_IE> mrguser, Why do you want to do that via mobile
[17:21] <reisio> DJones: don't know what hacking is? :)
[17:21] <mrguser> M aneble to install mac2wepkey.sis
[17:21] <Kai_p_IE> i feel a kick comeing on L:
[17:21] <usr13> angeloalmighty: You should just ask your question. (polling the channel rarely does much.)
[17:21] <bmxscott1993> il try that thank
[17:21] <Kai_p_IE> some how if my pc locks on board starts and i dont know why i am running ubuntu 12.04LTS
[17:22] <DJones> mrguser: Do you have an Ubuntu support question? Please be aware this channel only deals with Ubuntu support issues
[17:22] <ikonia> Kai_p_IE: explain better please "my pc locks onboard" ????
[17:22] <usr13> Kai_p_IE: More details......
[17:22] <lurkerrrr> Excuse my noobiness (and my english for that matter).
[17:22] <lurkerrrr> But do you have any idea why my (ancient) jabber account is linked to one of my gmail accounts (same password/contacts etc). If I remember well I opened the jabber account I am talking about a few years ago, and now I do not seem to find the dashboard/page-settings, whatever is called to change the linkage to the gmail account, or to change the password (to be different from the gmail one). I have been looking on the net, for the last 20 
[17:22] <mrguser> ok
[17:22] <lurkerrrr> Any of you guys and girls ...... there's 1719 people here
[17:22] <reisio> lurkerrrr: what does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[17:23] <lurkerrrr> Sorry to bump into
[17:23] <lurkerrrr> iIIIIIIIIIII know
[17:23] <lurkerrrr> sorry
[17:23] <benbloom> so I uses dd_rescue to clone an ailing HD, now I have this enormous file but I'm not sure what I can do with it. I think there's something wrong with the superblock but I don't know what that means or how to fix it
[17:23] <lurkerrrr> I was wondering whether any of you might know about it. .... I have been looking for an answer to this.
[17:23] <ikonia> benbloom: dd won't fix the superblock
[17:23] <usr13> lurkerrrr: Wrong channel.
[17:24] <ikonia> benbloom: dd is a block by block copy of the damaged disk - I don't see any benifit to having it
[17:24] <lurkerrrr> I know
[17:24] <lurkerrrr> thank you
[17:24] <reisio> benbloom: ffr use ddrescue, not dd_rescue
[17:24] <benbloom> so ikonia is there no hope for the data stored on that drive?
[17:24] <Kai_p_IE> some how if my pc locks on board starts and i dont know why i am running ubuntu 12.04LTS (Thats it thats all that happens the pc sleeps and i seem to get the keyboard poping up and i dont know why)
[17:24] <ikonia> benbloom: depends,
[17:24] <ikonia> Kai_p_IE: saying the same thing over and over doesn't help
[17:25] <usr13> benbloom: We don't know....
[17:25] <ikonia> Kai_p_IE: you need to give more info. What is "pc locks onboard starts"
[17:25] <Kai_p_IE> the on screen keyboard <ikonia>
[17:25] <usr13> Kai_p_IE: Are you having trouble recovering from sleep mode?
[17:25] <Kai_p_IE> usr13, nope
[17:26] <ikonia> Kai_p_IE: why are you using an onscren keyboard
[17:26] <ikonia> Kai_p_IE: test it with a normal keyboard
[17:26] <phillustine> i'm trying to install conky, and i run make but it states there's no make file. what can i do?
[17:26] <ikonia> phillustine: why are you compiling it ? it's in the repos
[17:26] <X-Sleepy-X> phillustine: why not just install it with apt-get ?
[17:26] <benbloom> ikonia: usr13 I'm really in past my depth here. If this isn't the right place to ask, please point me to where i should
[17:26] <ikonia> phillustine: open the package manager, search for conky, install it
[17:26] <Kai_p_IE> ikonia, i don't know i just came back from the pc and it poped up all the time as i go to unlock my pc
[17:27] <ikonia> Kai_p_IE: just reboot it
[17:27] <phillustine> good point. i'll do it that way. incidentally. is it possible to search the repos from the command line?
[17:27] <ikonia> benbloom: what's actually happened to y our disk ?
[17:27] <ikonia> phillustine: apt-cache search $package
[17:27] <Kai_p_IE> ikonia, i have but it seems to come back
[17:27] <ikonia> phillustine: https://help.ubuntu.com - a guide on how to use ubuntu
[17:27] <ikonia> Kai_p_IE: I'm sorry, you're not making any sense
[17:27] <Kai_p_IE> ugh
[17:27] <X-Sleepy-X> !cookie | ikonia
[17:27] <ikonia> Kai_p_IE: when you start your PC is the onscreen keyboard visible, yes/no ?
[17:27] <billy__> hi is there anyway to dualboot a palm pre 2 with hp webos and a linux os
[17:28] <benbloom> ikonia: it just stopped mounting. system claims there's no partition table, but data is still there.
[17:28] <ikonia> benbloom: ok it's stopped automounting, or it's stopped mounting totally
[17:28] <DJones> billy__: I think you'll need to find a dedicated Palm channel for that, its a bit beyond the scope of this channel
[17:28] <usr13> Kai_p_IE: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch
[17:28] <Kai_p_IE> ikonia, nope but if it gos to screensaver it pops up
[17:29] <Kai_p_IE> usr13, your not helping i am not talking about that
[17:29] <ikonia> Kai_p_IE: ok - so the screen saver process is trigginer it, right
[17:29] <ikonia> Kai_p_IE: he is helping - you're not being clear.
[17:29] <benbloom> ikonia: it's stopped mounting altogether
[17:29] <ikonia> benbloom: what happens if you try to manually mount it
[17:29] <phillustine> ikonia, many tanks.
[17:29] <Kai_p_IE> ikonia, sorry yeah
[17:30] <ikonia> Kai_p_IE: ok, so the issue is "When I the screen saver starts, the on screen keyboard appears on screen"
[17:30] <Kai_p_IE> ikonia, Yeah sorry
[17:30] <ikonia> Kai_p_IE: ok - so when it pops up, is it useable ?
[17:31] <Kai_p_IE> no ikonia i am on a laptop with a working keyboard so i have no need for it
[17:31] <armin> is there a way to define a keyboard shortcut to cycle through the windows of an open application without display the task switcher in that case?
[17:31] <ikonia> Kai_p_IE:  I didn't ask if you had need for it - I asked if it worked
[17:31] <zero2XIII> armin: for what application?
[17:31] <armin> like you have a few terminal windows open and all you want is cycle through them and display them and not having to focus on the task switcher.
[17:31] <armin> zero2XIII: any application.
[17:32] <armin> that feature would really increase the user experience i think.
[17:32] <zero2XIII> armin: I only know if the application supports it, eg firefox, some terminal emulators support that function
[17:32] <armin> zero2XIII: you're thinking away from the origin.
[17:33] <armin> zero2XIII: but thank you.
[17:33] <zero2XIII> armin: explain?
[17:33] <armin> zero2XIII: i mean i really want that feature to integrate with the unity taskswitcher, not a workaround.
[17:34] <zero2XIII> armin: if you have multiple screens open of one application the unity switcher DOES allow you to switch between windows
[17:34] <benbloom> ikonia: dmesg says "EXT4-fs (sdi): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem"
[17:34] <armin> zero2XIII: i never had any doubt to that.
[17:34] <ikonia> benbloom: what command are you using exactly to mount it
[17:35] <armin> zero2XIII: what i'm looking for is simply switching to the other windows, WITHOUT displaying the switcher.
[17:35] <armin> zero2XIII: think of the behaviour that fluxbox has for example.
[17:35] <benbloom> sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdi /mnt/HDHD2
[17:35] <ikonia> benbloom: that's a disk - not a partition
[17:36] <ikonia> benbloom: you need to mount the partition
[17:36] <ikonia> benbloom: eg: sdi1
[17:36] <armin> zero2XIII: thing is, that you can create seperate keyboard bindings to switch through windows of just the current application and also for iterating through ALL applications. i use the former a lot to cycle through the terminal sessions i have open.
[17:36] <benbloom> mount: special device /dev/sdi1 does not exist
[17:36] <armin> zero2XIII: so basically for me it is VERY disturbing to always end up in the switcher, having to find my terminal windows there, and so on.
[17:36] <X-Sleepy-X> armin: why not just use tabs?
[17:36] <armin> zero2XIII: it's WAY easier to remember where a terminal window resides on your deskopt, and simply switch to that.
[17:36] <ikonia> benbloom: ok - so this is bad, it looks like there is no partitions/parttiion table on this device
[17:37] <armin> X-Sleepy-X: because it's a different feature.
[17:37] <ikonia> benbloom: what has happened to this disk ?
[17:37] <zero2XIII> armin: I see, give me second, my system does exactly what you are saying when I do shift+tab
[17:37] <armin> X-Sleepy-X: there are PLENTY of situations where you need multiple terminals displaying their content at the same time, especially when coding.
[17:38] <benbloom> ikonia: it's a bit old? according to SMART it has "184 End-to-End_Error"
[17:38] <ikonia> benbloom: but has something actually happened to it ?
[17:38] <ikonia> benbloom: or is it just failing because it's old
[17:39] <armin> zero2XIII: basically i would even use the "Static Application Switcher" plugin in ccsm if it wouldn't crash when trying to enable it, but the whole compiz stack is just one broken buggy mess.
[17:39] <benbloom> no. it just suddenly disappeared from my system and when i tried to mount it i got 'no partition table'
[17:39] <benbloom> ikonia: no. it just suddenly disappeared from my system and when i tried to mount it i got 'no partition table'
[17:39] <ikonia> benbloom: run "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdi" check if there is a partition table, but it sounds like the disk is just failing
[17:39] <zero2XIII> armin: I was just about to suggest it, that is what I use.
[17:40] <zero2XIII> armin: however, mine is not really buggy?
[17:40] <armin> zero2XIII: hmmm.
[17:40] <zero2XIII> armin: also I set up window groups
[17:40] <armin> maybe i get it to work with some weird combinations of clicking around in that weird ccsm thing.
[17:40] <zero2XIII> so I can switch INSIDE a group...
[17:40] <armin> zero2XIII: yeah exactly.
[17:40] <armin> zero2XIII: that's precisely what i want.
[17:41] <armin> zero2XIII: but WITHOUT displaying the switcher at all.
[17:41] <armin> zero2XIII: it should just switch.
[17:41] <zero2XIII> armin: just change focus basicly?
[17:41] <armin> exactly.
[17:41] <armin> if that would possible i would really have no reason to ditch unity.
[17:41] <armin> but it distracts me a lot when working.
[17:42] <sharif> ubuntu 13.4 vmwera player a not full scerin
[17:42] <benbloom> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5784399/ someone here suggested I try dd_rescue but it seems to have copied the corruption. is there a way to try to recover the data from the disc?
[17:42] <zero2XIII> armin: well then you should enable the group and tab windows option in unity
[17:42] <armin> zero2XIII: the idea of having to find the window you're looking for in the switcher is just stupid.
[17:43] <armin> zero2XIII: i got that one.
[17:43] <ikonia> benbloom: I didn't tell you to do fsck !
[17:43] <usr13> armin: I may be late in the conversation, but are you talking about the function of Alt-F2 ?  Or someting similar?
[17:43] <ikonia> benbloom: I asked you to do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdi"
[17:43] <zero2XIII> armin: maybe, but I like it again... And then after the groups are set up (super G i think is the default) then you can switch with the switcher of choice inside that group)
[17:43] <usr13> armin: Sorry, I meant to say Alt-Tab
[17:43] <benbloom> oops. my bad. i've been at this a while ikonia. 1sec
[17:44] <fungus304> alright ive been having trouble with my intell 855gm video card for about a week now. i have a freshly installed and updated lubuntu 13.04 i know that the video drivers are supposed to be pre loaded but something definatly is not right. youtube videos show up half size and in purple and green. any help would be greatly apreciated
[17:44] <ikonia> benbloom: you have to be much more careful and pay attention
[17:44] <donvito> i am currently on Ubuntu 12.04.2LTS with gnome classic  due to low graphic card i want to upgrade to 13.04 can i still use gnome classic?
[17:44] <usr13> armin: I use Alt-Tab and Alt-F2 alot.....
[17:44] <ikonia> benbloom: commands like that can remove any chance of recovery
[17:44] <usr13> donvito: Short answer, yes
[17:45] <donvito> usr13:  is it better to stay on 12.04 than go to 13.04 ?
[17:45] <BluesKaj> fungus304, which graphics ?
[17:45] <fungus304> intell 855gm
[17:45] <usr13> donvito: Matter of opinion, but I prefer 12.04 for a number of reasons.  (I also use xfce.)
[17:45] <BluesKaj> on board or pci . fungus304
[17:45] <donvito> okk
[17:46] <fungus304> uhm... integrated?
[17:46] <benbloom> ikonia: error of fdisk is 'Disk /dev/sdi doesn't contain a valid partition table' output is http://paste.ubuntu.com/5784407/
[17:46] <ikonia> benbloom: ok, this is the root of the problem,
[17:46] <ikonia> benbloom: getting a parttion table on this without damaging the data is key
[17:47] <fungus304> sorry not sure what u mean
[17:47] <BluesKaj> fungus304, ok onboard=integrated , run dkms status and pastebin the result
[17:47] <fungus304> from my understanding its integrated into the motherboard...
[17:47] <mreq> Howdy. Anyone got a nice tutorial on how to install 12.04 server with RVM+nginx via passenger (system wide).
[17:48] <mreq> I'm willing to host a RoR website + one wordpress blog (can do the PHP setup...)
[17:48] <fungus304> alright open terminal sudo dkms?
[17:48] <ikonia> benbloom: I suggest you read in great detail this page http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/linux-data-recovery.html
[17:48] <BluesKaj> no ,just, dkms status, fungus304
[17:48] <zero2XIII> fungus304: dkms status
[17:48] <armin> hm, seems like i should just live with the downsides of the static application switcher then.
[17:48] <ikonia> benbloom: this really is your only real chance
[17:48] <donvito> usr13:  i like xfce now im going to install it:)
[17:49] <fungus304> says program currently not installed?
[17:49] <benbloom> thanks ikonia.
[17:49] <zero2XIII> armin: if you only use it to switch between temrinal windows, try ctrl z, and use fg to return to the different active applications inside the terminal... just a thought
[17:49] <fungus304> i assume i should install
[17:50] <BluesKaj> fungus304, look in additional drivers
[17:50] <zero2XIII> armin: but yes.. Maybe unity it to "eye candy" rich to do that..
[17:50] <fungus304> shows none
[17:50] <armin> zero2XIII: that's again a workaround of thinking in a completely different direction. that's like suggesting to use screen when someone asks for a bug in the tab implementation of their terminal emulator.
[17:51] <fungus304> under preferences software and updates additional drivers
[17:51] <armin> zero2XIII: but, thanks.
[17:51] <wheatthin> grr stupid update broke my chrome install ;/
[17:51] <zero2XIII> armin: yea, well then grab some source and code in this ability you seek?.. since it seems there is no other way than "a workaround"..
[17:51] <fungus304> i tried the ppa glasen/intel blah blah and says 404 error not found reverting to older software
[17:52] <zero2XIII> armin: sure no worries
[17:52] <iDrofox> hello, how i can convert a partiton from gpt to mbr using gparted in ubuntu so i can install win 7 ?
[17:52] <armin> zero2XIII: i might just live with the static application switcher plugin i guess.
[17:52] <ikonia> iDrofox: you can't convert partitions
[17:52] <fungus304> furhtermore tried intels linux driver software same result 404 not found
[17:53] <zero2XIII> armin: last possible work around, super W, and select the screen...
[17:53] <iDrofox> ikonia: win 7 says i can't install it in gpt drive...so i want to change it to mbr so i can install win 7..?
[17:53] <iDrofox> i am trying to do it with ubuntu..any tool i can download ?
[17:53] <ikonia> iDrofox:  you can't "change it"
[17:53] <fungus304> when running xp i had no problems when installed ubuntu i cant watch video... tried xubuntu kubuntu now lubunt
[17:54] <zero2XIII> armin: click or arrows and enter.
[17:54] <ikonia> iDrofox: you need to delete the partition table (and thus all partitions) and re-create a new partition table in the correct format
[17:54] <iDrofox> ok
[17:54] <iDrofox> which means loss of all data ?
[17:54] <zero2XIII> armin: but gtg.
[17:54] <ikonia> iDrofox: not if you back it up
[17:54] <iDrofox> ikonia:ok thx
[17:54] <fungus304> W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/glasen/intel-driver/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[17:55] <wheatthin> reinstalling it worked. 0.o
[17:57] <phillustine> is ram usage of 41% normal?
[17:57] <ikonia> can be
[17:57] <wheatthin> phillustine, depends on how much you have
[17:57] <ikonia> depends on many things,
[17:57] <ikonia> not how much you have
[17:57] <phillustine> 410MiB/992MiB
[17:57] <phillustine> aha
[17:57] <phillustine> ja, this, firefox, and a terminal
[17:58] <fungus304> is there no way to get my intell 855gm video card to function properly with ubuntu
[17:58] <wheatthin> fungus201, what does your xorg.conf file look like?
[17:58] <Pici> phillustine: How are you calculating that?
[17:58] <phillustine> Pici, calculating what? my RAM?
[17:58] <phillustine> from conky
[17:59] <Pici> phillustine: Whats the output of free -m
[17:59] <ikonia> so you're running more than you just said
[17:59] <ikonia> you're also running conkey
[17:59] <fungus304> sudo xorg.conf?
[17:59] <hackvier_> hello friends,
[17:59] <phillustine> ikonia, exactly. slipped my mind.
[17:59] <hackvier_> i have 12.04 and  want install  maliit
[17:59] <wheatthin> fungus201, pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:59] <hackvier_> but have error.
[17:59] <ikonia>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf should not exist unless you have forced creation of one
[18:00] <phillustine> Pici, Mem: 991 (tot), 874 (used), 117 (free)
[18:00] <ikonia> so that's more than %40
[18:00] <ikonia> and that's also bad numbers
[18:00] <fungus304> bash: /etc/x11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[18:00] <wheatthin> ikonia, I find that forcing it to make one helps, especially with login prompts resolution
[18:00] <ikonia> wheatthin: why ? what are you trying to force with it ?
[18:00] <Pici> ikonia: conky could be doing the +/- buffers/cache calculation itself.
[18:00] <ikonia> wheatthin: what have you configured it
[18:00] <ikonia> Pici: I'd hope it is
[18:01] <killer> hey , how can I reduce ram usage in ubuntu 12.04 64 bit server
[18:01] <wheatthin> ikonia, fglrx-updates drivers
[18:01] <ikonia> oh dear
[18:01] <BluesKaj> fungus304, that ppa is faulty and has been removed from launchpad
[18:02] <fungus304> so what now?
[18:02] <usr13> fungus304 lsb_release -r   #What version are you on?
[18:02] <wheatthin> ikonia, so forcing   aticonfig --initial -f did the job for me to fix the login screen's resolution
[18:02] <fungus304> 13.04
[18:03] <usr13> fungus304: Fully updated?
[18:04] <fungus304> i think so i did the sudo apt-get update and upgrade and did software updater
[18:05] <phillustine> ikonia, what would you expect it to be?
[18:05] <usr13> fungus304: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2091024
[18:05] <ikonia> phillustine: there is no set expectation
[18:05] <phillustine> ok
[18:06] <qubit01> how would I make a keyboard shortcut to select a certain Window ?  Like Ctrl+Shift+e goes to my eclipse widnow ?
[18:06] <natrixnatrix89> when I log into ubuntu, I get this informative greeting: http://pastebin.com/vTNfTgbx
[18:06] <natrixnatrix89> Is there a command to get such system information during runtime?
[18:06] <phillustine> quit
[18:06] <wheatthin> phillustine, you can always try like i said to generate xorg.conf file
[18:06] <wheatthin> lol nvm
[18:07] <qubit01> natrixnatrix89, that looks like an AWS EC2 instance
[18:07] <natrixnatrix89> lol..
[18:07] <natrixnatrix89> no. it's my computer..
[18:07] <reisio> qubit01: wmctrl
[18:07] <reisio> qubit01: or look into tiling window managers
[18:07] <qubit01> reisio, awesome!  looking it up
[18:07] <wheatthin> why after logging out, does X:0 switch to X:1?
[18:07] <natrixnatrix89> qubit01: But the question was.. what's the command to get system info?
[18:08] <qubit01> natrixnatrix89, that comes from the motd of the file
[18:08] <qubit01> so id look in there first
[18:08] <natrixnatrix89> motd?
[18:08] <qubit01> message of the day, usually /etc/motd
[18:08] <qubit01> looks like there doingsomething cool with it
[18:09] <natrixnatrix89> wow.. really.. that's what it contains..
[18:09] <natrixnatrix89> how do they generate it then?
[18:09] <qubit01> look in that file and find out :)
[18:09] <natrixnatrix89> but it's just plain text..
[18:09] <natrixnatrix89> There must be a script generating this file..
[18:10] <qubit01> search for motd , there might be config files for it somewhere
[18:10] <qubit01> cd /etc/update-motd.d
[18:10] <Bewbasaurus> hi everyone
[18:11] <qubit01> go to hell! ... oh sorry.  Hullo!
[18:11] <Bewbasaurus> I was just looking for a channel where I could get some advice and tips I am very new to linux ubuntu
[18:11] <reisio> Bewbasaurus: this well could be that channel
[18:11] <natrixnatrix89> qubit01: Thank's!
[18:12] <meadhikari> hi, any idea on where I can find the Ubuntu Dell ISO's that come pre installed? I mean with all the drivers
[18:13] <qubit01> ah where have you been my whole life wmctrl *reisio* :)
[18:13] <pagios_> hello i am trying to connect to a wpa/wpa2 PSK network i included this wpa_supplicant file, can anyone tell me if it is right or missing something? thanks http://pastebin.com/hDSd02mL
[18:13] <reisio> qubit01: ikr
[18:13] <pagios> /join #linux
[18:14] <SonikkuAmerica> */join ##linux
[18:14] <reisio> qubit01: devilspie is another, but more complicated
[18:15]  * X-Sleepy-X enjoys some updates
[18:19] <pagios> anyone?
[18:19] <X-Sleepy-X> pagios: is it the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[18:19] <pagios> X-Sleepy-X: no it is wpa_supplicant.conf
[18:20] <ZOrc> hi
[18:22] <ironfroggy> Does anyone have experience with an issue between two machines that won't SCP? no errors, but the file is never written. -v indicates it does transfer, however.
[18:23] <Beanios> I can't seem to view any windows PCs on my ubuntu 13.04 machine. How can I resolve this?
[18:23] <X-Sleepy-X> pagios: are you going to have like a static connection to one wifi network?
[18:23] <pagios> X-Sleepy-X: correct
[18:23] <skorasaurus> i have a ubuntu 12.04 live usb, I go to the install option but it takes me to the desktop without a install icon, it acts as if its in live mode only.
[18:24] <skorasaurus> how do i install ubuntu on the computer then ?
[18:24] <ironfroggy> Beanios, what does "view any windows PCs" mean?
[18:24] <pagios> so i have a static configuration in /etc/network/interface for wlan4 so my laptop gets assigned the ip but doesn connect to the wireless network X-Sleepy-X
[18:24] <Beanios> I am trying to see them on the network
[18:24] <Beanios> but I can't connect
[18:24] <cstewart> Beanios are you meaning samba or network shares if so you might need to install smb or samba
[18:24] <fungus731> god i just dont understand why video is purple and green
[18:25] <X-Sleepy-X> pagios: how have you configured the /etc/network/interfaces ?
[18:25] <Beanios> I have samba, maybe I didn't install it correctly
[18:25] <pagios> X-Sleepy-X: http://pastebin.com/h8FsQTYg
[18:25] <cstewart> can the windows computer see your ubuntu computer
[18:25] <Beanios> I will reinstall it
[18:26] <cstewart> Its also suggest to reboot after installing since profiled will need to update apparmour profile
[18:26] <Beanios> Wait, I will just quickly install samba
[18:26] <Beanios> ok, I will reboot after
[18:27] <pagios> anyone please?
[18:27] <marcbiskup> cheers
[18:27] <X-Sleepy-X> pagios: have you tried adding wpa-ssid MyNetwork and wpa-psk MyPassword123 in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[18:28] <pagios> huh? never heard of that
[18:28] <pagios> example?
[18:29] <marcbiskup> I have an error message like this: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mMG2oXIuuGI/UcMQyWIA-3I/AAAAAAAABAQ/_zRNHQX5CK8/w1021-h766-no/IMG_9779.JPG
[18:29] <Beanios> Ok, rebooted
[18:30] <Beanios> I can see the ubuntu machine on my windows machine
[18:30] <X-Sleepy-X> pagios: http://pastebin.com/ueyHtTap
[18:30] <Beanios> I can't open "Network Servers"
[18:31] <marcbiskup> any help? or is it just X-Sleepy-X helping? ;)
[18:31] <Beanios> I still can't connect to the windows network
[18:32] <cstewart> try and install apt-get install smbfs
[18:32] <Beanios> "Failed to retrieve share list from server: Connection timed out"
[18:32] <cstewart> Pagios I just added to your pastebin an example for you
[18:32] <Beanios> "Package smbfs has no installation candidate"
[18:33] <Beanios> I si t cifs-utils?
[18:33] <Beanios> Is it cifs-utils
[18:34] <X-Sleepy-X> Beanios: i use cifs-utils
[18:34] <cstewart> yes that would be the replacement in 13.04 sorry still sporting 12.04lts.....its mainly used for mounting smb and cifs shares
[18:34] <Beanios> Ah, ok, it's installing now
[18:34] <Beanios> Will I need to reboot after?
[18:34] <X-Sleepy-X> marcbiskup: when do you get that error and when did it begin?
[18:34] <cstewart> no and add this line as well to your /etc/samba/smb.conf
[18:35] <marcbiskup> some wekks ago. cannot reproduce it.
[18:35] <Beanios> I only recently install ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop, I have it on my server, but that always worked
[18:35] <X-Sleepy-X> marcbiskup: so it was a one time error?
[18:35] <cstewart> bellow where the workgroup is defined add the following "name resolve order = bcast host"
[18:35] <Beanios> Do I need to reboot?
[18:35] <marcbiskup> no, I got it several times.
[18:35] <Beanios> ok
[18:35] <X-Sleepy-X> marcbiskup: have you since then upgraded to a newer kernel?
[18:36] <marcbiskup> yes, I guess. Check this: http://pastebin.com/ZxjbBEDZ﻿
[18:36] <marcbiskup> Oh, it's gone :/
[18:36] <Beanios> wait, what line?
[18:37] <marcbiskup> X-Sleepy-X: Wait a sec, I create a syslog
[18:37] <cstewart> you will need to add that line i provided bellow the workgroup = line
[18:37] <d4rkn30> I have a quick question, How can i remove grub from boot but keep lubuntu installed as i just installed grub onto a usb key
[18:37] <Beanios> oh, wow how did I not notice that :/
[18:38] <cstewart> then restart samba service sudo /etc/init.d/smbd restart
[18:38] <Beanios> ok done
[18:38] <cstewart> Do we have a winner??? LOL
[18:39] <marcbiskup> X-Sleepy-X: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5784571/
[18:39] <budmang> anyone here use ipmitool?
[18:39] <Beanios> YES
[18:39] <c-toast> Is there anyone here who would be willing to help a relative newbie? I asked a Q in the beginners channel. Thought maybe someone could help...? Should I ask here?
[18:39] <Beanios> thank you so much!
[18:39] <gordonjcp> !ask | c-toast
[18:39] <Beanios> this has been bugging me for ages
[18:39] <cstewart> Cool no problem
[18:39] <gordonjcp> !anyone | budmang
[18:40] <donvito> i just installed Nvidia accelerated drivers version 173, do i also need do install nvidia accelerated drivers post release 173-updates?
[18:41] <c-toast> Hi! I'm having a miserable time with an HP Win8 computer and Ubuntu 13. I installed a side by side and it refuses to dual boot. I disabled the Secure Boot, shut down and by sheer chance I hit the right combination of 'enter's in the UEFI to boot into Ubuntu - Finally. But it's still not dual booting without a ton of dancing around in the BIOS. I don't even know if this makes any sense. How can I make this a simple dual boot?
[18:41] <X-Sleepy-X> marcbiskup: looks like you have upgraded the kernel to the latest so that's probably why the error hasn't occured again...
[18:41] <budmang> ubottu: nice, ipmi is a bit specific but, Im just trying to setup ipmitool between 2 machines, I have the LANS setup, ARP from each machine shows they see eachother.
[18:41] <donvito> i just installed Nvidia accelerated drivers version 173, do i also need do install nvidia accelerated drivers post release 173-updates?
[18:41] <budmang> but I just cant seem to send any command via -l lan
[18:41] <Beanios> Could you help me with one more problem? Sound doesn't work at all.
[18:42] <Beanios> I found a command that fixes it temporarily, but I lost that command
[18:42] <marcbiskup> X-Sleepy-X: What does it mean then? I had the problem several times during the last weeks.
[18:42] <cstewart> Hmm that might be interesting and after you saying that I recall a friend with similar issues
[18:43] <cstewart> if you disable apparmor will sound work temporary until reboot
[18:43] <Danielc1234> hi all, trying to install varnish but getting this error. W: Failed to fetch http://repo.varnish-cache.org/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release  Unable to find expected entry  varnish-3.0.4/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[18:43] <Danielc1234> any ideas?
[18:44] <X-Sleepy-X> marcbiskup: i'm not sure, haven't had many issues like that to learn from.
[18:44] <donvito> i just installed Nvidia accelerated drivers version 173, do i also need do install nvidia accelerated drivers post release 173-updates?
[18:44] <budmang> ipmitool or openipmi - doesnt seem to be listening on port 632
[18:44] <Beanios> how do I disable apparmour?
[18:45] <cstewart> just pulling up some notes one second...is this for pulse audio
[18:45] <Beanios> ok, I'm not sure
[18:46] <X-Sleepy-X> !patience | donvito
[18:47] <rudolf_> hi all
[18:47] <chiluk> how do I turn off nautilus searching with 13.04?
[18:48] <chiluk> I want to launch nautilus and then be able to hit a letter like I used to.
[18:48] <rudolf_> What is the difference between wine and wine 1.4-i386 and which one should I install?
[18:48] <cstewart> To disable apparmor for pulse audio it should be the following command "sudo apparmor_parser -R /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.libvirtd" "
[18:48] <cstewart> sudo /etc/init.d/libvirt-bin restart
[18:49] <DJT> hi, here is my pblm: libgcc_s.so.1 must be installed for pthread_cancel to work
[18:49] <DJT> what is the best to do?
[18:49] <rudolf_> The first one is meta package. :|
[18:49] <aethelrick> rudolf_: the i386 version is 32bit
[18:49] <pagios> cstewart: X-Sleepy-X do i also run  /sbin/wpa_supplicant -iwlan4 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext ?
[18:50] <rudolf_> aethelrick, and what is a meta package?
[18:50] <cstewart> shouldn't need to just /etc/init.d/networking restart
[18:50] <aethelrick> rudolf_: just install "wine"
[18:50] <rudolf_> ok...thanks aethelrick
[18:50] <aethelrick> rudolf_: a META package… a a package that simply contains a list of packages it depends upon… i.e. it's just a list of stuff to install
[18:51] <rudolf_> oh..okies
[18:51] <cstewart> brb duty calls
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> !tmi | cstewart
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> lol
[18:51] <niranjan> Hi there, I am on ubuntu 12.04. Have set up TOMBOY_PATH enviornment variable, but when I run tomboy using dash, its not picked up
[18:52] <niranjan> Variable is picked up when I run from terminal
[18:52] <DJT> no one for my problem
[18:52] <DJT> ?
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> DJT, More detals would probably help, as in the context.
[18:53] <wilee-nilee> details*
[18:53] <niranjan> So the main question is are variables defined in .bashrc picked up by ubuntu dash
[18:54] <Beanios> "Error: Could not read profile /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.libvirtd: No such file or directory."  "sudo: /etc/init.d/libvirt-bin: command not found"
[18:54] <Danielc1234> getting this error when trying to install varnish. Any ideas? W: Failed to fetch http://repo.varnish-cache.org/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release  Unable to find expected entry  varnish-3.0.4/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[18:54] <belgianguy> hi, is there something like cron that supports custom ranges?
[18:55] <belgianguy> I've looked at at, but that doesn't cover the case either
[18:55] <Danielc1234> using these commands
[18:55] <Danielc1234> curl http://repo.varnish-cache.org/debian/GPG-key.txt | sudo apt-key add -
[18:55] <Danielc1234> echo "deb http://repo.varnish-cache.org/ubuntu/ precise varnish-3.0" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:55] <Danielc1234> sudo apt-get update
[18:55] <Danielc1234> sudo apt-get install varnish
[18:55] <FloodBot1> Danielc1234: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:55] <Danielc1234> sorry
[18:55] <aethelrick> niranjan: put your variables in ~/.profile and log out and back in again
[18:55] <DJT> wilee-nilee, my programme can't find pthread_cancel
[18:56] <DJT> what is the best way to upgrade libgcc_s.so.1
[18:56] <DJT> ?
[18:56] <aethelrick> belgianguy: what do you mean "custom ranges" can you give an example
[18:56] <niranjan> aethelrick: machine is rebooted many times after setting the variable. I see .profile calling .bashrc
[18:56] <niranjan> Is that not taking effect?
[18:57] <niranjan> This is defautl .profile
[18:57] <belgianguy> aethelrick: eg a 2 week holiday that changes each year, I don't want it to run then
[18:57] <aethelrick> niranjan: if you open  terminal and type export, can you see your variable set ??
[18:57] <niranjan> yes
[18:57] <DJT> i do the same (upgrade apt
[18:58] <Stripe> hi all having probs with 12.04 copying files from an internal ntfs backup drive, any ideas?
[18:58] <johnjohn101> i saw an article about 64 bit steam for linux. how soon should it be available for ubuntu?
[18:58] <niranjan> If memory serves right, variables are exported only if you source it, is that right?
[18:59] <niranjan> I mean if variables are set in another script and you just execute that script
[18:59] <X-Sleepy-X> DJT: dpkg -S libgcc_s.so.1
[18:59] <X-Sleepy-X> DJT: apt-cache search libgcc1
[19:00] <belgianguy> aethelrick: the easiest analogue would be a school bell, which doesn't sound on Wednesday afternoon, and not in the weekend or when it's a holiday
[19:00] <aethelrick> belgianguy: easiest thing might be to wrap your task in a script and execute that daily, then inside the script bail out if the days falls within the excluded period
[19:00] <belgianguy> aethelrick: yeah, that was what I was thinking, any scripting language you'd recommend?
[19:01] <Noize> hello
[19:01] <Noize> I have an issue with my bluetooth
[19:01] <belgianguy> aethelrick: I was thinking of bash in combination with php, (the php part is because I'll need a web front end anyway)
[19:01] <Noize> i recently used sixad/sixpair to connect my ps3 controller to my nexus 4... now i cannot use bluetooth on my computer
[19:02] <Noize> any suggestions? The bluetooth manager doesn't recognize my bluetooth anymore
[19:02] <rudolf_> What do I do after saving the package download script from synaptics?
[19:02] <aethelrick> belgianguy: if you're working in PHP you may as well do it all in there
[19:02] <rudolf_> I jst have to run it ?
[19:02] <cstewart> Back a few lbs lighter ....how you guys making out
[19:02] <Beanios> I think I fixed it with sudo alsa force-reload
[19:02] <Beanios> thanks for your help
[19:03] <cstewart> yea i know in the pass apparmor has been the culprit to check
[19:03] <belgianguy> aethelrick: yeah, but I don't know how to start mplayer from within php (and system calls feel a bit uncleanà
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> rudolf_, synaptic s a installer, are you sure you have not already run it?
[19:03] <Beanios> yeah
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> is*
[19:03] <Beanios> thanks, cstewart!
[19:03] <donvito> i just installed Nvidia accelerated drivers version 173, do i also need do install nvidia accelerated drivers post release 173-updates?
[19:03] <aethelrick> belgianguy: ust put your commands in `back ticks` they will be executed
[19:04] <kostkon> donvito, that package will keep your nvidia driver more up-to-date
[19:04] <belgianguy> aethelrick: could you explain about the backticks?
[19:05] <nnyk_> `ls`
[19:05] <rudolf_> wilee-nilee, I want to download on other computer. So I generated the download script. What do I do next?
[19:05] <aethelrick> belgianguy: the back ticks are the `quotes` I used here around quotes. PHP will shell execute anything in them
[19:07] <rudolf_> wilee-nilee, there are several .deb files to download as written in the script. Whic one should i open first after download? I mean what i really have to do after downloading them all??
[19:08] <wilee-nilee> rudolf_, Thanks for your additional information, I have no idea what you are doing, using synaptic this way I have never seen.
[19:09] <angs> which one  has better performance on a computer that has a bad graphic card: ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu?
[19:09] <rudolf_> wilee-nilee, there is option in the file menu called "generate package download script".
[19:09] <iceroot> angs: xubuntu and lubuntu should be the same for the vga
[19:09] <angs> I will use it to develop a GUI on eclipse, does it matter what distro (ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu) I am using ?
[19:09] <aethelrick> rudolf_: do you have a bandwidth problem? it's easier to just install on other machine using synaptic isn't it?
[19:10] <iceroot> angs: no it doesnt matter
[19:10] <angs> iceroot, which one do you suggest me to install?
[19:10] <rudolf_> aethelrick, yeah i have a bandwidth prob and I want to download the softwares on other pc and then install them on mine.
[19:10] <iceroot> angs: you can use all the ubuntu software on kubuntu, ubuntu, lubuntu and xubuntu. everything is availalbe for all versions
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> rudolf_,  True, however that just pulls in packages and installs them I believe, so the computer you are doing this for has this access already or at least must to run it
[19:11] <iceroot> angs: the one you like most, all are fine. maybe have a look with a live-cd which gui you prefer
[19:11] <angs> thank you iceroot
[19:11] <rudolf_> wilee-nilee, i have a bandwidth prob and I want to download the softwares on other pc and then install them on mine.
[19:11] <rudolf_> Wilee-nilee, now what should i do?
[19:11] <belgianguy> there's a spammer on the channel I think
[19:12] <X-Sleepy-X> rudolf_: copy the already downloaded .deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives (or where they resolve) to the other computer and then install via synaptics
[19:12] <iceroot> angs: no problem, you are welcome
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> rudolf_, The problem here is this is a vague description, for example how many packages, how many apps...etc, honestly I'm not your best help here.
[19:13] <Noize> Could anyone help me with my bluetooth issue?
[19:13] <rudolf_> hmm...ok...I will be back after downloading them all.
[19:13] <Duran_Adam> selam
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> !ask | Noize
[19:14] <X-Sleepy-X> rudolf_: i mean, they get downloaded to that path when you install them, so then you can use them again, either on the same computer or another.
[19:14] <lauren> hey everyone
[19:15] <Noize> wilee-nilee i did nobody responded :P
[19:15] <lauren> I was just wondering if someone could give me some pointers on ubuntu 13.04  and video playback
[19:15] <aethelrick> rudolf_: have a look at this… http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1900550
[19:15] <Noize> My bluetooth will not work after pairing my ps3 controller to my N4
[19:15] <Noize> i used sixad and sixpair to pair the 2 together, now bluetooth on my computer won't work at all
[19:16] <X-Sleepy-X> lauren: please specify further
[19:16] <wilee-nilee> Noize, If someone knows they will probably answer, it takes awhile sometimes is all.
[19:16] <Daughain> Morning, all.
[19:17] <X-Sleepy-X> Daughain: Good evening... :)
[19:17] <Daughain> How goes the day, X-Sleepy-X ?
[19:17] <stevechch> #ubuntu-server
[19:17] <lauren> X-Sleepy-X, well I have a toshiba laptop that is new, 64bit with 4gb ram and radeon gfx, I have 13.04 installed wiping out W8 and I have done all updates and swappiness adjustment but in chromium, youtube video playback on fullscreen is super choppy and in system monitor it shows both cores at like 99%, I dont understand why the load would be so great
[19:18]  * X-Sleepy-X wonders who that someone/anybody/nobody is which everyone mentions
[19:18] <rudolf_> aethelrick, yeah thats what i wanted..thanks :)
[19:19] <aethelrick> lauren: have you installed the AMD drivers for your video card?
[19:19] <X-Sleepy-X> Daughain: Good, can't complain. How about you?
[19:19] <sjbnz> Fun. Back on-line.
[19:19] <lauren> aethelrick, yes
[19:19] <lauren> aethelrick, using the proprietary, they seem to work well, HL2 on steam runs okay
[19:19] <Daughain> X-Sleepy-X, well, once the battery dies, hopefully it will be better. Trying to sort out the battery on the laptop.
[19:20] <X-Sleepy-X> lauren: is it the same with firefox?
[19:20] <benedikt> installed with mini.iso. Do i need to enable TRIM support for my ssd manually?
[19:20] <sjbnz> mtr say worst is 9.0 - avg is 0.5 (on the same segment, so should be fast)
[19:20] <lauren> X-Sleepy-X, good point let me check
[19:20] <X-Sleepy-X> benedikt: do you have ext4? if so, add discard in /etc/fstab
[19:21] <benedikt> X-Sleepy-X: i have
[19:22] <lauren> X-Sleepy-X, yes it almost seems a little worse in firefox.. I just dont get why flash video playback would be so hard on the cpu
[19:22] <lauren> X-Sleepy-X, I mean I have 4gb ram
[19:22] <X-Sleepy-X> benedikt: good, just add discard before errors=remount like: UUID=45cc6449-c2a1-4320-b1bc-9d57575dce39 /               ext4    defaults,discard,noatime,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[19:22] <Daughain> X-Sleepy-X, The system has been showing 1 min remaining for ten min now. =) Trying to get it calibrated.
[19:22] <benedikt> X-Sleepy-X: got it the first time :P
[19:24] <X-Sleepy-X> lauren: and you have installed adobe-flashplugin ?
[19:24] <lauren> X-Sleepy-X, I dont know, I assumed so because it plays the flash?
[19:25] <X-Sleepy-X> lauren: what do you find in about:plugins in firefox?
[19:25] <dcope> was the unrar package removes?
[19:26] <X-Sleepy-X> Daughain: I think my system does the same sometimes. I choosed to ignore it.
[19:26] <dcope> why is apt-get not finding this? http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/unrar
[19:26] <X-Sleepy-X> benedikt: :) good
[19:27] <sjbnz> Well, my main concern was that the latest updates for 12.04LTS had introduced NFS bugs...
[19:27] <trism> dcope: do you have universe enabled? have you run apt-get update yet?
[19:27] <DJones> dcope: Lucid is end of life, so the repo's have probably been removed
[19:27] <dcope> trism: yes, i've run apt-get update
[19:27] <DJones> !eol | dcope
[19:28] <benedikt> i set up LVM with a minimal space to then add "partitions" (volume groups?) after install (the ncurses installer suggested it). What now?
[19:28] <dcope> hm
[19:28] <steve__> Can Ubuntu help me get a girlfriend?
[19:28] <sjbnz> ...sounds like that's not the case, so maybe ist the NFS on the i5/AS400.
[19:28] <DJones> steve__: No, you probably you need to look in a different channel on a different network
[19:28] <Daughain> X-Sleepy-X, Since this laptop is 7 years old, I ned to know if the battery works, and for how long. =) Need to know if I need to buy a new one.
[19:28] <steve__> DJones: Thanks for the quick reply. :-P
[19:29] <lauren> X-Sleepy-X, checking
[19:29] <X-Sleepy-X> Daughain: i would guess that a battery that old isn't in it's best condition
[19:29] <DJones> dcope: Is it server or desktop, just looking, server is still supported, so not sure why it wouldn't find it
[19:30] <Daughain> X-Sleepy-X, My assumption as well.
[19:30] <X-Sleepy-X> dcope: do you have the multiverse pool?
[19:31] <Noize> When i attempt to start bluetooth as a service it tells me "start: Job failed to start"
[19:31] <cyan0hack> Hi all, I need an advice. I need to run an instance of mongoDB on a server with Ubuntu 12.10 every time the server is restarted. The support team of the hosted server told me that I need to create a watchdog script that runs on cron.
[19:31] <DJones> X-Sleepy-X: He's dropped out of the channel
[19:31] <Danielc1234> Need some help, Trying to install Varnish but Ubuntu is giving me this error... W: Failed to fetch http://repo.varnish-cache.org/ubuntu/dists/precise/Release  Unable to find expected entry  varnish-3.0.4/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[19:31] <Danielc1234> can someone tell me whats up
[19:31] <fungus058> hello
[19:32] <bekks> cyan0hack: All you need is a startup script for upstart.
[19:32] <benedikt> Danielc1234: the file you requested isnt there. try updating your cache with "apt-get update"
[19:32] <X-Sleepy-X> DJones: whoops... :)
[19:32] <fungus058> blah is there no end to the intel 855gm problems?
[19:32] <lauren> X-Sleepy-X, under Shockwave Flash it has x-shockwave-flash and futuresplash
[19:32] <Danielc1234> yes, that is when I get that error.
[19:32] <cyan0hack> beaks, can you advice me a guide or tutorial to make this script?
[19:32] <fungus058> video plays in blue and green half size
[19:32] <cyan0hack> bekks*
[19:32] <lauren> X-Sleepy-X, and btw I appreciate your help
[19:33] <X-Sleepy-X> lauren: and above it says "Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202" ?
[19:33] <bekks> cyan0hack: Never needed to do it on my own.
[19:33] <bekks> !upstart | cyan0hack
[19:33] <fungus058> banners on websites youtube...
[19:33] <Danielc1234> benedikt it also says it may have uploaded an older version of the file, but wanted to make sure I'm not going to screw anything up when I do a apt-get install varnish.
[19:33] <lauren> X-Sleepy-X, yes it says that
[19:33] <cyan0hack> thank you guys
[19:34] <fungus058> i keep getting told do thid do that all needing a bunch of code to no avail... i have lubuntu 13.04 all i want is a light fuctional system to watch movies on
[19:34] <Daughain> Hey, does anyone know which exchange server will work with Evolution?
[19:34] <X-Sleepy-X> lauren: what's the output of "lspci | grep VGA" without the quotes?
[19:35] <DJT> X-Sleepy-X, it works better but not at all
[19:35] <fungus058> used to play everquest on this com no problems and now with ubuntu im screwed and cant even watch a you tube video
[19:35] <X-Sleepy-X> DJT: how can it work better but not at all at the same time?
[19:36] <readyjar> Any idea how to send a shift + delete into the terminal?
[19:36] <fungus058> anyone out there with an 855gm chipset? (apparently not very uncommon)
[19:36] <readyjar> Through an ssh session
[19:36] <lauren> X-Sleepy-X, I am about to run that command, on a side not tho I also have Minitube installed and it plays fullscreen flawlessly, like absolutely perfect, let me get u that output
[19:36] <readyjar> Shift backspace to be specific
[19:37] <leo-the-manic> Are repos different for different versions of Ubuntu? Like if I upgrade from 12.04 to 13.xx can I download a newer version of VirtualBox?
[19:37] <bekks> readyjar: Whats is that combination supposed to do in a terminal?
[19:37] <bekks> leo-the-manic: Yes.
[19:37] <jrib> leo-the-manic: repos are different
[19:37] <bekks> leo-the-manic: For vbox, use the official version from the official vbox website.
[19:37] <readyjar> bekks: Supposed to delete. Brocade switches use shift backspace to delete
[19:37] <lauren> X-Sleepy-X, 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler [Radeon HD 7310]
[19:38] <bekks> readyjar: To delete what?
[19:38] <glyn> hello a nooobi here. wats occuring
[19:38] <leo-the-manic> bekks: Is there a way to browse the repo for Ubuntu 13 online?
[19:38] <bekks> readyjar: I'm working daily with Brocade SAN switches.
[19:38] <readyjar> bekks: What I was typing. It's to backspace
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> fungus058, Spreading your comments around rather then in one line makes it hard to follow you, gve details of what you have actually done, not to me but the channel.
[19:38] <bekks> readyjar: At least on a SAN switch, backspace works like a charm.
[19:38] <DJT> X-Sleepy-X, it's hard to explain, i design a game whose working with sdl threads
[19:39] <bekks> leo-the-manic: packages.ubuntu.com
[19:39] <readyjar> bekks: We have several Brocade FSG and FWS, and a few VDX
[19:39] <readyjar> bekks: Backspace does not work on those. They use shift backspace for some reason
[19:39] <readyjar> Well it might on the VDX. I'm hardly messing with those
[19:39] <glyn> wat u guys chatting bout?
[19:39] <DJT> that's now harder to make it bug, but it happends yet
[19:40] <DJones> !support | glyn
[19:40] <readyjar> But yea, if there is a way to send a shift backspace through an ssh session that would be awesome
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> glyn, This is support not chat, if you have a problem state it to the channel.
[19:40] <fungus058> anyone know how to get the drivers for intel 855gm
[19:40] <lauren> X-Sleepy-X, even though minitube plays videos well it is sort of limited and I wanted in-browser support to be good as well for when I watch vids embedded on my fav websites
[19:41] <glyn> try google fungus
[19:41] <fungus058> been doing that for a week
[19:41] <X-Sleepy-X> lauren: have you installed any drivers for the radeon card?
[19:41] <fungus058> me?
[19:41] <glyn> wat bout intel official website
[19:41] <lauren> X-Sleepy-X, yes proprietary with AMD catalyst center, it runs half life 2 pretty well
[19:42] <fungus058> doesnt work... goes to 90% 404 not found reverting back
[19:42] <fungus058> but i have intel 855gm why would i download radeon?
[19:43] <Hadi> hi, where can I get crypto-utils for ubuntu?
[19:43] <glyn> is raedon for scsi drives?
[19:43] <glyn> try google hadi
[19:43] <readyjar> SO basically I need to see what the terminal actually generates during a shift backspace
[19:43] <Hadi> glyn: I tried Google, hence asking here
[19:44] <DJones> !google | glyn
[19:44] <wilee-nilee> glyn, Telling people to just google is against channel policy.
[19:44] <fungus058> thank u
[19:44] <Hadi> I didn't find anything on Google anyway
[19:44] <fungus058> i was biting my tongue
[19:44] <glyn> um go into applications on start bar then click ubuntu software center n search there
[19:45] <fungus058> ive literally been stuck for a week with an os i cant use
[19:45] <Hadi> glyn: there is no package called crypto-utils on any repository
[19:45] <Hadi> I thought it might be called something else. or I can just compile it?
[19:45] <DJones> !find crypto-utils
[19:45] <fungus058> havent slept... simply cannot get video card working properly
[19:45] <glyn> ah ok. just as well cant use crypto stuff in uk
[19:46] <fungus058> been googling like a mad man been in these forums and just cant get it working
[19:46] <DJones> Hadi: I think the bot answered that question, doesn't look like its available as a default package
[19:46] <gordonjcp> glyn: you can't?  News to me...
[19:46] <fungus058> why can u?
[19:46] <Hadi> DJones: is there any easier way other than openssl?
[19:46] <readyjar> Actually I think it may be how ssh is handling shift backspace, and not an issue with the terminal
[19:46] <glyn> dont u just hate oppresive governments
[19:47] <gordonjcp> glyn: fortunately, I live in the UK so I don't have one
[19:47] <DJones> Hadi: Sorry, I'd not heard of it before, maybe somebody else will know
[19:47] <gordonjcp> glyn: encryption is legal here, unlike the US
[19:47] <DJones> !find crypto-util
[19:48] <glyn> well not if the bloody tories n other gov has n e thing to do with it tbh
[19:48] <gordonjcp> glyn: what are you trying to encrypt?
[19:48] <glyn> the whole hdd
[19:48] <DJones> Hadi: Maybe have a look at those two packages that ubottu just found, maybe one of those is what you're looking for
[19:48] <wilee-nilee> Hadi,  don't see it in the repos or any debs on line, but availability for a handful of other linux like fedora, redhat, debian...etc, it may take compiling or a conversion from a rpm, not sure really.
[19:48] <Jawisarow> Use truecrypt
[19:49] <Jawisarow> Or bitcrypt
[19:49] <readyjar> bekks: ctrl + h will backspace how it should. That's annoying though. Know of a way to use plain backspace, or shift backspace?
[19:49] <fungus058> ...
[19:49] <fungus058> anyone with info on intel 855 drivers
[19:50] <ubuntivity> Hello, I've got a physical problem with my monitor! how/where can I get help over irc?
[19:50] <glyn> ya ill dwn load it now n have a fiddle
[19:50] <X-Sleepy-X> lauren: i've googled around but haven't found anything useful. all i can think of is that you could perhaps try to change some settings in catalyst. try to run unity in 2d. try to experiment with xorg.conf and some "greedy" settings. but i can't say if it will help
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> ubuntivity, ##hardware  maybe
[19:51] <ubuntivity> I'll check that
[19:52] <glyn> why cant i get vidalia n tork to work on my wirless internet connection
[19:52] <fungus058> intel 855gm drivers?
[19:52] <glyn> rite time 4 spliff n cuppa
[19:52] <KeyboardNotFound> How to measure temperature of my processor ?
[19:52] <fungus058> i believe theres an app for tems in the center
[19:53] <fungus058> teps
[19:53] <fungus058> temps
[19:53] <MonkeyDust> methinks glyn is a bot
[19:53] <DeathJesterUK> Hey all, I am having a really big issue trying to get this OS installed on my PC. The OS runs fine from the Live CD, but, when I install it to the SSD, I have issues. At first it looks fine, then, when I open up a program, the program window freezes. I cant close it, operate it or anything, but the rest of the OS works fine.
[19:53] <glyn> there is fungi
[19:53] <glyn> wats a bot
[19:53] <wilee-nilee> KeyboardNotFound, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[19:54] <ubuntivity> I can't type anything in #hardware, any other useful channel?
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> !sensor
[19:54] <Pici> ubuntivity: you need to register/identify to speak there.
[19:54] <Pici> !register || ubuntivity
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> ubuntivity, YOu may need to be registered, you can do that at #freenode
[19:54] <fungus058> intel 855gm drivers?
[19:54] <wilee-nilee> Doh
[19:54] <readyjar> How do I configure the terminal to send Control-H for backspace?
[19:55] <Hadi> I basically want to encrypt squid traffic. otherwise I can't bypass internet censorship here. any suggestion?
[19:55] <glyn> Monkey wat is a bot?
[19:55] <DeathJesterUK> I tried everything I can think of, but the windows keep freezing. I cant update, I cant use console, I dont know what is going on.
[19:55] <iBatman> I too
[19:55] <fungus058> u try reinstalling?
[19:55] <readyjar> OR allow shift + backspace to send control h
[19:55] <ubuntivity> it has always been a nightmare for me to register/login in IRC!
[19:56] <glyn> i know how u feel Death. thats why am trying to use tork n vidalia
[19:56] <fungus058> ive reinstalled about 8 times in the last week
[19:56] <DeathJesterUK> I have tried reinstalling. This is the second install and I am getting the same errors.
[19:56] <Pici> glyn: Please stop with the random comments. This is a support channel.
[19:56] <lauren> X-Sleepy-X, thank you so much, is it easy to switch to unity 2d?
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> DeathJesterUK, You might try a nomodeset boot to see if t is a graphic driver need.
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> it*
[19:56] <Pici> ubuntivity: well, if you need help, you can ask the kind folks in #freenode
[19:56] <DeathJesterUK> How do I boot that.
[19:56] <DeathJesterUK> ?
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | DeathJesterUK
[19:57] <glyn> ha ha ha  ark at her. do u lot just specialise in ubuntu or other OS systems
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> DeathJesterUK, One could also from a tty run a update upgrade and see if this gets you up and running.
[19:57] <DJones> glyn: The channel is called #ubuntu, that sort of gives it away
[19:59] <DeathJesterUK> Okay, can I edit the boot from the livecd? Because the windows all freeze instantly when I boot from SSD
[19:59] <glyn> truecript doesn work for sum reason
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> DJones  i think glyn is a bot that generates comments based on what's said in the channel
[19:59] <X-Sleepy-X> readyjar: http://www.ibb.net/~anne/keyboard.html
[20:00] <X-Sleepy-X> readyjar: perhaps that's what you're looking for?
[20:00] <readyjar> X-Sleepy-X: It may be... I'll look it over
[20:01] <X-Sleepy-X> lauren: i guess u need to install unity-2d
[20:01] <X-Sleepy-X> lauren: then select it at the login screen
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> DeathJesterUK, The nomodeset has a edit boot for the live cd or at the grub prompt on a install, these are in that link. NOt sure if this will help, but without exacting details form you we have to knock out varibles.
[20:03] <wilee-nilee> from*
[20:03] <fungus058> my video is half sized purple and green... intel 855gm
[20:04] <DeathJesterUK> What would you need details wise to help bug hunt this?
[20:04] <kilonux_> Hello, I want to copy a dvd, my 12.04  reads it well, do I need  libdvdcss?
[20:05] <fungus058> does anyone have any experience with the intel 855gm cjipset?
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> DeathJesterUK, Because the there are thousands of installed packages, think about it
[20:05] <DeathJesterUK> Well, let me go see if I can do this from the terminal and gedit first. Ill come back and let you know.
[20:06] <X-Sleepy-X> kilonux_: apt-cache show dvdrip
[20:06] <iBatman> sudo apt-get install restricted-extras
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> kilonux_, Probably, and you can use brasero to image discs
[20:06] <Daughain> Let the charging begin.
[20:07] <X-Sleepy-X> Daughain: Good luck!
[20:07] <Daughain> X-Sleepy-X, Thanks.
[20:07] <fungus058> unable to locate extras
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:08] <wilee-nilee> I believe libdvdcss is not in the restricted-extras
[20:08] <X-Sleepy-X> it is in medibuntu
[20:08] <fungus058> unable to locate
[20:09] <zamba> stupid ubuntu.. how can i remove the default key bindings? for instance that alt+f1 is open main menu and alt+f2 is run dialog?
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> yep, but medibuntu is basically defunct now
[20:09] <zamba> those settings are completely hidden
[20:09] <kilonux_> thanks , I'll try
[20:09] <wilee-nilee> libdvdcss is in the repos
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> libdvdcss2 actually
[20:10] <zamba> and how do i disable the animation when switching workspaces?
[20:10] <X-Sleepy-X> wilee-nilee: pool/free/libd/libdvdcss/libdvdcss2_1.2.12-0.0medibuntu1_amd64.deb
[20:10] <zamba> now the switch takes some ms too much, because it wants to animate the switch
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> zamba  unity-tweak-tool
[20:10] <bprompt> you can find libdvdcss2 from medibuntu's site ---> http://packages.medibuntu.org/
[20:11] <zamba> MonkeyDust: i think i'm running gnome shell, actually
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> libdvdcss2Is in the ubuntu repos
[20:11] <bprompt> you could also add their PPA to your sources.list
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> libdvdcss2*
[20:11] <zamba> MonkeyDust: or gnome-session-fallback or whatever the package is called.. which should give me ubuntu classic
[20:11] <fungus058> tried 404 not found
[20:11] <MonkeyDust> zamba  guess you can select fallback (no effects) in the lightdm menu
[20:12] <fungus058> its like the intel 855gm doesnt exist
[20:13] <fungus058>  Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/glasen/intel-driver/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found  E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[20:13] <snori74> ™¡¡⁄€
[20:14] <fungus058>  Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/glasen/intel-driver/ubuntu/dists/raring/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found  E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.  any help?
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> !ppa
[20:15] <X-Sleepy-X> fungus058: go to http://ppa.launchpad.net/glasen/intel-driver/ubuntu/dists/ and you'll see that there is no raring directory
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> !raring
[20:15] <X-Sleepy-X> !cookie | wilee-nilee
[20:15] <X-Sleepy-X> :)
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> Doh I mixed up saucy and raring
[20:16] <fungus058> hmmm and no raring
[20:17] <johnjohn101> !saucy
[20:17] <pode_> i
[20:17] <fungus058> so this chipset will not work with 13.04
[20:17]  * wilee-nilee gives free ignores to passive aggressive nicks.
[20:20] <fungus058> alright 12.04 is called what
[20:20] <wz> weee
[20:20] <X-Sleepy-X> I'm stuck on step 7 and would need some help: http://www.strangehorizons.com/2004/20040405/badger.shtml
[20:20] <fungus058> 13.04 is raring ringtail...
[20:20] <MonkeyDust> fungus058  precise
[20:21] <X-Sleepy-X> fungus058: lsb_release -c
[20:22] <fungus058> based on http://ppa.launchpad.net/glasen/intel-driver/ubuntu/dists/ quantal is the latest version that supports intel 855 gm chipset correct?
[20:23] <fungus058> based on http://ppa.launchpad.net/glasen/intel-driver/ubuntu/dists/ quantal is the latest dist to include intel 855gm chipsets correct?
[20:23] <fungus058> sorry... was scrolled up
[20:23] <fungus058> didnt see i posted
[20:23] <jrib> fungus058: why would you base that on the content of a ppa?  Are you sure that ppa is required?
[20:24] <wz> qualcuno sai xke : Encountered a section with no Package: header
[20:24] <wz> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_videolan_stable-daily_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_i18n_Translation-it%5fIT
[20:24] <wz> E: L'elenco dei pacchetti o il file di stato non può essere letto o aperto.
[20:24] <Pici> !it | wz
[20:25] <fungus058> i have lubuntu 13.04 and i cannot get my intel 855gm drivers... my video is green and purple half sized
[20:25] <jrib> !info xserver-xorg-video-intel | fungus058
[20:25] <jrib> fungus058: are you sure that driver doesn't support i855gm?
[20:26] <fungus058> however based on what sleepy pointed out quantal is the latest version to support intel 855gm chipsets
[20:27] <chachan> hi guys, is there a shortcut to send a process to background?, something like Ctrl+Z
[20:27] <jrib> fungus058: I don't see why you come to that conclusion
[20:27] <fungus058> im 32 bit
[20:27] <X-Sleepy-X> fungus058: err, no. what i pointed out was that raring wasn't supported by that ppa
[20:27] <xjohnthomasx> Can someone help me get into my system - I'm experiencing a graphical login loop. I can enter in cli and guest account, but not my main account.
[20:27] <fungus058> im soooooo lost
[20:27] <kilonux_> X-Sleepy-X: learning things here from you
[20:27] <fungus058> i just want to watch video
[20:28] <guntbert> chachan: you start it with   command &
[20:28] <Slart> chachan: ctrl-z will get you the terminal prompt back.. then there's bg and fg  ... or %1 &
[20:28] <xjohnthomasx> I tried a few different approaches chown my Xauthority and other files
[20:28] <Slart> chachan: %1 &    will send job number 1 to background
[20:28] <fungus058> ive been fuckin around with this for a week with very little sleep
[20:28] <xjohnthomasx> As recommendedin research, but can't seem to get it to work
[20:28] <jrib> fungus058: explain what your actual issue is with this purple and green stuff (and please mind your language)
[20:28] <xjohnthomasx> Need some new ideas
[20:28] <fungus058> sorry i am soooo agrivated
[20:29] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: create a new user and see if that works
[20:29] <xjohnthomasx> fungus058, sounds like a graphics card or flash plugin issue
[20:29] <X-Sleepy-X> kilonux_: :)
[20:29] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, I can login with the main user acct in cli
[20:29] <guntbert> fungus058: then its maybe time to cool down now and ask for support later :)
[20:29] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: create a new user and see if the new user can log into X
[20:29] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, I just can't get in from the lightdm graphical menu
[20:29] <chachan> Slart, the same process?, or is it a new execution?
[20:29] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: I understand
[20:29] <fungus058> alright... youtube shows half screen in green and purple cannot get full screen cannot access settings in player
[20:29] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, What will a new user do? Why?
[20:29] <kilonux_> wilee-nilee:  On earlier ubuntus It was so simple to copy an .img, now I am sitting with AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS
[20:30] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: if the new user works, then we've narrowed it down to an issue with your old user.  If a new user does not work, then it's some sort of system-wide issue.
[20:30] <X-Sleepy-X> chachan: or you can use screen
[20:30] <fungus058> ive been asking for support for a week
[20:30] <fungus058> im cool...
[20:30] <X-Sleepy-X> !info screen
[20:30] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, It's not system wide. It's the old user tmp or xsession somewhere, but I can't find the problem.
[20:30] <marlinc> Anyone who can help with some open-source license issues in a project channel?
[20:31] <Slart> chachan: the same process.. it gets stopped/paused when your press ctrl-Z   and if you just type %1 it will continue running in the foreground.. ie you don't get the prompt back.. %1 &  will continue running it AND send it to background
[20:31] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: how have you determined that?
[20:31] <fungus058> sorry sleepy a little more specific...
[20:31] <fungus058> in the terminal sudo !info screen?
[20:31] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: you can just create a new user and try this in about a minute so we can move on
[20:31] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, I read through the xerrors -tailed - and it seems the last shutdown shut down faster or erroneously which didn't allow all programs to close out and write their states.. There are a bunch of errors that a device was unavailable at the end of previous session..
[20:31] <chachan> Slart, cool, that's what I want
[20:31] <bekks> fungus058: Nope.
[20:31] <fungus058> or just !info screen
[20:31] <chachan> X-Sleepy-X, yeah, I already know about screen, thanks
[20:31] <bekks> fungus058: Just "info screen" or "man screen".
[20:32] <X-Sleepy-X> chachan: :) sry
[20:32] <xjohnthomasx> So it affects only the graphical login of the main user. I tried uninstalling lightdm and xubuntu-desktop, and then reinstalling.. No luck either.
[20:32] <chachan> X-Sleepy-X, no problem, thank you!
[20:32] <xjohnthomasx> Guest account works graphically. Guest and Main work cli login.
[20:32] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: well my first step in troubleshooting the issue with you is to see whether or not a freshly created user can log in through lightdm
[20:33] <fungus058> and what am i looking for
[20:33] <xjohnthomasx> Freshly can as well as Guest can.
[20:33] <X-Sleepy-X> fungus058: no, just screen
[20:33] <MonkeyDust> xjohnthomasx  i had that too, it turned out that my HDD was 100% full... check something in that direction
[20:33] <fungus058> not installed
[20:33] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: pastebin ~/.xsession-errors for the new user and the main user then
[20:33] <DJones> fungus058: Be careful with the commands you're entering, it sounds as though you're also entering commands that are aimed at other people in the channel, and not ones directed at you.  The screen command doesn't appear to have be directed at a question you asked, but was for somebody else
[20:34] <DJones> !who
[20:34] <xjohnthomasx> MonkeyDust, 'tis not the case here
[20:34] <fungus058> sigh
[20:34] <xjohnthomasx> What's the cli to paste to pastebin?
[20:34] <jrib> !pastebinit | xjohnthomasx
[20:34] <X-Sleepy-X> fungus058: is the whole screen affected by the issue or is it just when playing flash videos?
[20:34] <xjohnthomasx> Great
[20:34] <xjohnthomasx> One sec
[20:34] <MonkeyDust> xjohnthomasx  [command] | pastebinit
[20:35] <fungus058> just flash
[20:35] <p30arena> is it possible to have a dns server without domain name? :-/
[20:35] <fungus058> i dont think 3d games work either
[20:35] <fungus058> tried downloading one in the center and it crashed
[20:36] <X-Sleepy-X> fungus058: you have installed adobe-flashplugin?
[20:36] <fungus058> yeah
[20:36] <BluesKaj> fungus058, open the software center and find this driver and install it , xserver-xorg-video-intel
[20:36] <fungus058> 10-4
[20:36] <X-Sleepy-X> =6
[20:36] <wz> yes
[20:38] <fungus058> no packages found
[20:38] <wz> #ubuntu
[20:38] <fungus058> lubuntu software center... i have lubuntu
[20:39] <wz> qualcuno sai xke : Encountered a section with no Package: header
[20:39] <wz> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_videolan_stable-daily_ubuntu_dists_quantal_main_i18n_Translation-it%5fIT
[20:39] <wz> E: L'elenco dei pacchetti o il file di stato non può essere letto o aperto.
[20:39] <jrib> wz: stop pasting here.  And use #ubuntu-it for help in Italian
[20:39] <wz> ok
[20:40] <wz> ok: jtib
[20:40] <fungus058> typed it in terminal says i already have
[20:41] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, paste.ubuntu.com/5784918
[20:42] <X-Sleepy-X> fungus058: have you installed any other video drivers?
[20:42] <fungus058> no
[20:43] <fungus058> in the ppa precice penguin is there... if i just go with 12.04 should i be fine?
[20:43] <fungus058> quantal is there to wich version is quantal
[20:44] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, see the pastebin?
[20:44] <fungus058> ive just been hunting for intel drivers to no avail
[20:44] <bgardner> fungus058: Quantal is 12.10
[20:44] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: no, it won't load
[20:44] <Hadi> how can I encrypt connection between squid and user?
[20:44] <xjohnthomasx> it will. give it  second. the taildidn't work for some reason. gave a stdin error. so i pasted thewhole file.
[20:44] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: ok so which one is this and where's the other one?
[20:44] <marlinc> Anyone who can help with some open-source license issues in a project channel?
[20:44] <xjohnthomasx> what other one? this is .xsession-errors
[20:45] <bekks> Hadi: By settings up a https proxy.
[20:45] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: pastebin ~/.xsession-errors for the new user and the main user then
[20:45] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: (the one for the fresh user)
[20:45] <Guest58635> anyone ever heard of a ubuntu botnet?
[20:45] <xjohnthomasx> i didn'tmake a newuser, 'cause I know it's not system wide already
[20:46] <fungus058> on ubuntu website theres 12.04 and 13.04... precise and raring. 12.10 is quantal i assume quantal isbetter than precice?
[20:46] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: good luck with your issue.  It's impossible to help you if you *lie* to me
[20:46] <xjohnthomasx> lie?
[20:46] <xjohnthomasx> what are you talking about?
[20:46] <xjohnthomasx> dood, i just followed the various google descriptions to troubleshoot. it's definitely not system wide.
[20:46] <X-Sleepy-X> fungus058: it seems that they found a fix/workaround here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1178982
[20:46] <Guest58635> anyone ever heard of a ubuntu botnet?
[20:47] <gordonjcp> Guest58635: yeah
[20:47] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: you don't have to do what I asked.  But I asked it for a reason, and it wouldn't take very long.  In any case you told me earlier you did it and now admit you did not, so I'm not wasting more of my time
[20:47] <gordonjcp> Guest58635: at a prompt, type "sudo apt-get install botnet"
[20:47] <xjohnthomasx> no I never said I did it
[20:47] <xjohnthomasx> I said I didn't need to do it because I knew it was already not system wide!
[20:48] <xjohnthomasx> What
[20:48] <xjohnthomasx> s' the reason youasked?
[20:48] <xjohnthomasx> I asked you that - because I could help answer for you either way
[20:48] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: you did.  Feel free to scroll up where you claimed a fresh user could login.  In any case, let's not clog up this channel anymore.  Repeat your question and someone else may be able/willing to help you
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[20:49] <bekks> Guest58635: Its a joke.
[20:49] <fungus058> lol yeah ive read that page... doesnt make sense and i cant seem to get the xorg.conf file
[20:49] <gordonjcp> Guest58635: no, not really
[20:49] <gordonjcp> Guest58635: it would save a lot of time though
[20:49] <fungus058> i hate to sound like a noob but i literaly need step by step instructions
[20:49] <gordonjcp> Guest58635: also, be careful when people tell you to type stuff into a terminal
[20:50] <fungus058> most of these "support" pages assume u know linux programing
[20:50] <xjohnthomasx> The problem is that I'm encountering a graphical login screen loop with main account - but am able to login with cli or with guest graphically or cli... It's been described numerously in google pages, a few different possible fixes, including chown the xauthority, the xsession in tmp, and uninstalling/reinstalling lightdm and xubuntu desktop andothers.. tried them all, and haven't figured it out yet. The last thing was doing was an
[20:50] <xjohnthomasx>  update and then letting gparted live resize the home partition to fit a larger swap partition at the end of it.. seemed to work, said successful.
[20:50] <Guest58635> gordonjcp: i know, i've heard of windows ones but i'm looking at the feasibility of a ubuntu one
[20:50] <BluesKaj> fungus058, that's totally untrue , typing commands into terminal is not programming
[20:51] <gordonjcp> Guest58635: Linux is generally not so susceptible to being broken into in ways useful to people who run botnets
[20:51] <fungus058> well that shows just how noob i am
[20:51] <fungus058> how do i Edit (or create) /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[20:52] <gordonjcp> Guest58635: there are far more Linux machines out there connected to the Internet than Windows ones, remember
[20:52] <xjohnthomasx> Anyone have any ideas?
[20:52] <BluesKaj> fungus058, also when ppl are helping you , please use their nicks when answering their questions ...makes it easier for all
[20:53] <fungus058> how do i do that
[20:53] <hackvier_> t5/QtCore -I.moc -o .obj/xcbplatform.o xcbplatform.cpp
[20:53] <hackvier_> xcbplatform.cpp:22:42: error fatal: qpa/qplatformnativeinterface.h: No
[20:53] <hackvier_> existe el archivo o el directorio
[20:53] <hackvier_> compilación terminada.
[20:53] <gordonjcp> xjohnthomasx: definitely can't log in?
[20:53] <bprompt> fungus058:    xorg.conf is a plain text file, just sudo to edit it, since it requires root access
[20:53] <X-Sleepy-X> fungus058: have you tried searching google for? how to create xorg.conf
[20:53] <gordonjcp> xjohnthomasx: make a copy of your home directory somewhere safe, then start nuking .directories until it works?
[20:54] <xjohnthomasx> main account can login via cli. guest account can login via graphical (lightdm) or cli. main account can NOT login via lightdm/graphically - and that's the problem.
[20:55] <xjohnthomasx> gordonjcp, that's a bit drastic. i'm not nuking anything.
[20:55] <bekks> xjohnthomasx: So check the .xsession-errors and the Xorg.0.log
[20:55] <gordonjcp> xjohnthomasx: you've got a copy of it
[20:55] <xjohnthomasx> I posted the .xsession-errors earlier
[20:55] <xjohnthomasx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5784918/
[20:56] <X-Sleepy-X> xjohnthomasx: create a new user from cli "sudo adduser newusername" then try loggin in as that user, if successful, copy precious files from the disfunctional account, then delete the disfunctional account and recreate the user and the copy process if you want to reclaim the username for the account.
[20:56] <bgardner> !es | hackvier_
[20:56] <fungus058> Fatal server error: Cannot open log file "/var/log/Xorg.1.log"  (EE)  Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support  	 at http://wiki.x.org  for help.  (EE)
[20:57] <bekks> xjohnthomasx: And what about the X log?
[20:57] <xjohnthomasx> 5784958
[20:57] <bekks> xjohnthomasx: Thats a nice number, I'd prefer 7492436
[20:57] <fungus058> i think im gonna just reinstall and try 12.04 there really doesnt seem to be anything to fix this problem
[20:58] <xjohnthomasx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5784958/
[20:58] <fungus058> time for reinstalation number 9
[20:58] <gordonjcp> fungus058: there comes a point when you've spent enough time trying to unbreak it
[20:58] <gordonjcp> fungus058: set up an install server ;-)
[20:58] <xjohnthomasx> bekks, there - does that help?
[20:58] <fungus058> whats that?
[20:59] <gordonjcp> fungus058: a server that will provide PXE boot information and all the packages, locally
[20:59] <PlasmaSheep> I'm trying to install linux-headers-3.4.0 in order to use virtualbox, but I can't seem to find them anywhere
[20:59] <gordonjcp> fungus058: because all my spare USB sticks are quite old and crappy, and I'm on gigabit ethernet, it's quicker for me to netinstall than install off USB ;-)
[20:59] <fungus058> it just seems completly stupid that ubuntu would do this with the intel 855 chipset
[20:59] <gordonjcp> fungus058: just tell the machine to netboot, then pick various Ubuntus, Centoses and other OSes/distros from the menu
[21:00] <fungus058> so sudo netboot
[21:00] <gordonjcp> fungus058: no, bios prompt
[21:00] <fungus058> ...
[21:00] <gordonjcp> fungus058: isn't the 855 chipset a) ancient, and b) very very proprietary?
[21:00] <fungus058> i dont know
[21:01] <fungus058> is it?
[21:01] <fungus058> worked great on xp
[21:01] <X-Sleepy-X> fungus058: you're using lubuntu aren't you?
[21:01] <fungus058> uh huh
[21:01] <gordonjcp> fungus058: XP is 12 years old now
[21:01] <fungus058> cuz its supposed to be lightwieght and all that jazz
[21:02] <X-Sleepy-X> fungus058: does the problem exist in ubuntu?
[21:02] <bgardner> fungus058: Check out XP: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/products/lifecycle
[21:02] <deathjesteruk> Okay, so, nomodeset didnt work.
[21:02] <deathjesteruk> However, Its something to do with my mouse. The buttons arent working.
[21:02] <fungus058> im looking for max performance out of an old toshiba satelite s155 40 gig hdd 1gig ram and this god forsaken intel 855 that works great with windows but not linux
[21:03] <xjohnthomasx> bekks, does that help?
[21:03] <deathjesteruk> I am using a RAT9 wireless mouse. The mouse works fine, but, the buttons do not.
[21:03] <fungus058> so lubuntu seemed smart
[21:03] <X-Sleepy-X> fungus058: try installing a newer kernel
[21:03] <Spr1ng> Anybody upgraded RT from 4.0.4 to 4.0.13?
[21:03] <deathjesteruk> Correction, the left hand mousebutton will not work.
[21:03] <awesome_muffin> hihi
[21:04] <fungus058> i have the newest kernel
[21:04] <deathjesteruk> I have fully updated Ubuntu.
[21:04] <fungus058> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:04] <X-Sleepy-X> fungus058: uname -r gives you what?
[21:04] <deathjesteruk> But there is still no left mouse button functionality.
[21:05] <PlasmaSheep> I'm trying to install linux-headers-3.4.0 in order to use virtualbox, but I can't seem to find them anywhere
[21:05] <fungus058> 3.8.0-26-generic
[21:05] <fungus058> go to vbox website and download worked for me
[21:05] <X-Sleepy-X> fungus058: and accordingly to the link i posted earlier they installed a newer version
[21:06] <fungus058> sorry whats that
[21:06] <X-Sleepy-X> fungus058: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1178982
[21:06] <xjohnthomasx> Anyone?
[21:07] <X-Sleepy-X> xjohnthomasx: did you try with a new user?
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> Spr1ng, It is in 13.10, and the channel is not for polling, if you want help, state your problem.
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> PlasmaSheep, What release are you running?
[21:08] <fungus058> how is that newer... thats -19 i have -26
[21:08] <Spr1ng> wilee-nilee: So under 12.04 LTS there's no pkg for 4.0.13?
[21:08] <X-Sleepy-X> fungus058: "I did find the following workaround. When booting, I choose the Advanced Ubuntu options and pick either Linux 3.5.0-27-generic or Linux 3.2.0-40-generic. With either, the video/flash is fine. The default kernel is Linux 3.8.0-19-generic, and that is the version where it does not work"
[21:08] <PlasmaSheep> wilee-nilee: precise
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> Spr1ng, not in the repos I believe.
[21:08] <wilee-nilee> Spr1ng, YOu might check ppa's
[21:08] <fungus058> oh sorry
[21:09] <deathjesteruk> Interesting, for some reason, the secondary mouse button will not work.
[21:09] <fungus058> alright... so reboot hit f12 boot from cd and go to advanced options pick updated kernel
[21:09] <deathjesteruk> Okay, Im having all sorts of mouse issues. Anyone got any ideas?
[21:10] <X-Sleepy-X> deathjesteruk: get a cat?
 Find a cat. <Serious> What's going on!?
[21:10] <Spr1ng> wilee-nilee: aight thx for the info.
[21:10] <deathjesteruk> Thats not at all helpful.
[21:10] <X-Sleepy-X> solly... :)
[21:10] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, ok, you're right - i should have just tried and made the new user. i thought the google/stack exchange had already walked me through that troubleshoot step. i just made another new user, and it doesn't log in either. but the cli logins do still work, and the guest account does still login graphically.
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> Spr1ng, NO problem I looked on the web to see what I could.
[21:11] <schultza> deathjesteruk: no, seriously, what is going on with the mouse1?
[21:11] <folorn> So I've got a question is it possible to just do a straight install from a .Iso image??
[21:11] <deathjesteruk> The buttons arent working, the OS isnt recognizing when its hovering over an icon and so I cant get menus up or press any icons or the buttons on the left.
[21:12] <folorn> without having to run around find dvds etc to burn the thing to ??
[21:12] <bgardner> PlasmaSheep: Can't you just install virtualbox from the repos?  That would bring in the dependencies for you.
[21:12] <fungus058> err those r still downgraded kernels... oh well guess i have to downgrade. cant run 13.04
[21:12] <deathjesteruk> The keyboard and OS are working fine, but, my mouse is screwed and I have tried with another mouse, that isnt working either.
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> folorn: Using a VM, yes; also, check out ISOBoot
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> !isoboot
[21:12] <schultza> And what version of GNU/LInux Ubuntu are you using!?
[21:13] <SonikkuAmerica> folorn: i.e. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[21:13] <X-Sleepy-X> !who | schultza
[21:13] <PlasmaSheep> bgardner: I did, I got an error during installation: http://pastie.org/8064380
[21:13] <deathjesteruk> I am using 13.04 is it? Ubuntu
[21:13] <deathjesteruk> I had this with 12.04 too.
[21:13] <SonikkuAmerica> deathjesteruk: Unity?
[21:13] <xjohnthomasx> X-Sleepy-X, the new user doesn't graphically login either
[21:13] <deathjesteruk> Im not sure.
[21:13] <folorn> i mean ive got the distro sonikkuAmerica but just sick of wasting CDS
[21:13] <deathjesteruk> How do I find that out?
[21:13] <deathjesteruk> Im new to linux.
[21:13] <SonikkuAmerica> deathjesteruk: The thing with the top menu bar and the launcher on the left?
[21:14] <X-Sleepy-X> xjohnthomasx: my bet is that there is something wrong with your filesystem
[21:14] <xjohnthomasx> yes probably
[21:14] <deathjesteruk> Yeah, I cant activate the top menu bar of launcher.
[21:14] <SonikkuAmerica> !de
[21:14] <SonikkuAmerica> !desktop
[21:14] <xjohnthomasx> but why would that stop only the graphical login
[21:14] <xjohnthomasx> not the cli login
[21:14] <SonikkuAmerica> !desktop | deathjesteruk (GNOME is now ubuntu-gnome-desktop)
[21:14] <SonikkuAmerica> !unity | deathjesteruk, this is what "Ubuntu" comes with.
[21:14] <deathjesteruk> Well, Ubuntu-Gnome-Desktop is broken.
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> PlasmaSheep, Check this kernel stack info out, read carefully I believe it is 32 bit only, or at least was. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuDesktop#LTS_Hardware_Enablement_Stack
[21:15] <deathjesteruk> I cant CLICK ANYTHING!
[21:15] <evilytwisted> would any of you know the channel for recordmydesktop? or know where i could get help with the program?
[21:15] <deathjesteruk> Links are no good to me.
[21:15] <SonikkuAmerica> deathjesteruk: What does your desktop have on it.
[21:16] <wilee-nilee> PlasmaSheep, As a friendly reminder, always be backed up in general. I did the stack upgrade on my 64 bit and it bricked, however I have all my OS's cloned, so no biggie.
[21:16] <deathjesteruk> I have the menu bar at the top, the launcher to the left, I have system icons in the top right and thats it. This is a new install today, from one of the images on the Ubuntu website.
[21:16] <X-Sleepy-X> xjohnthomasx: perhaps not all the sectors are affected
[21:16] <SonikkuAmerica> deathjesteruk: That's Unity.
[21:16] <deathjesteruk> Thats interesting, but, how does knowing its unity help me?
[21:17] <X-Sleepy-X> xjohnthomasx: i would boot a live session and do a backup of important stuff and then reinstall
[21:17] <readyjar> Ok so still can't get shift backspace to send ^H
[21:17] <PlasmaSheep> wilee-nilee: I'm not sure I understand what this means. I need to run the stack update to run virtualbox?
[21:17] <SonikkuAmerica> deathjesteruk: Hmm... I would ask you to pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... but since you have no mouse... did you have it when you used your Live image?
[21:18] <deathjesteruk> It worked fine on the Live Image.
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> PlasmaSheep, No, possibly for higher kernels, why you need it for virtualbox I have no idea, that sounds wrong
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> PlasmaSheep,I have vbox running in precise with the stick kernels.
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> stock*
[21:18] <bgardner> PlasmaSheep: Do this: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> sonikkuamerica: use pastebinit in terminal, who needs a mouse....
[21:19] <SonikkuAmerica> ActionParsnip: Point.
[21:19] <allgood38> deathjesteruk, Any chance the cursor is just invisible? Could you try clicking somthing in the corner?
[21:19] <PlasmaSheep> bgardner: that's right, I'm trying to do that
[21:19] <ActionParsnip> deathjesteruk: is the OS fully updated?
[21:20] <bgardner> PlasmaSheep: Is that working for you?
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> PlasmaSheep, YOu have dkms installed?
[21:20] <PlasmaSheep> bgardner: no, those packages don't exist
[21:20] <PlasmaSheep> bgardner: yes
[21:20] <PlasmaSheep> er
[21:20] <PlasmaSheep> wilee-nilee: yes
[21:20] <deathjesteruk> I can see the mouse cursor fine, its just not working and yes, the OS is fully updated. I managed to do that at least.
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> cool
[21:21] <kostkon> deathjesteruk, tried rebooting?
[21:21] <deathjesteruk> -.-
[21:21] <deathjesteruk> You are joking arent you?
[21:21] <kostkon> deathjesteruk, nope
[21:21] <bgardner> PlasmaSheep: Could you paste.ubuntu.com the result of that apt-get command so we can help you troubleshoot?
[21:21] <ActionParsnip> deathjesteruk: which release are you using?
[21:21] <deathjesteruk> 13.04 64bit
[21:21] <folorn> sorry sonikkuAmerica got disconnected
[21:21] <folorn> and had to do  a reboot
[21:21] <Ben64> deathjesteruk: sudo apt-get install build-essential dkms linux-headers$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g)
[21:22] <deathjesteruk> What?
[21:22] <ActionParsnip> deathjesteruk: if you install the xfce4 package, then log off, you can use the xfce session to at least get a usable OS
[21:22] <Ben64> do that
[21:22] <Ben64> oh wait, wrong person, sorry
[21:22] <allgood38> Ben64, prepping him to install video drivers?
[21:22] <Ben64> PlasmaSheep:  sudo apt-get install build-essential dkms linux-headers$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g)
[21:22] <deathjesteruk> Okay, talk to me like I am a total noob...because I am!
[21:22] <PlasmaSheep> wilee-nilee: and I do get errors when I try to run the virtual machine: http://pastie.org/8064397
[21:23] <PlasmaSheep> bgardner: I already did: http://pastie.org/8064380
[21:23] <Ben64> PlasmaSheep: do the command i gave you
[21:23] <PlasmaSheep> Ben64: I did. like I said, the header packages for 3.4.0 don't exist.
[21:23] <ActionParsnip> deathjesteruk: sudo apt-get install xfxe4; killall -u $USER
[21:24] <Ben64> PlasmaSheep: i gave a different command
[21:24] <PlasmaSheep> Ben64: You also missed a dash, it should have been linux-headers-$(uname -r | sed s/^.*[0-9]\-/-/g)
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> deathjesteruk: run it as given :-)
[21:24] <Ben64> PlasmaSheep: ok, then do that
[21:24] <ActionParsnip> deathjesteruk: sorry, xfce4 not xfxe4
[21:25] <PlasmaSheep> Ben64: this is exactly what I already did... http://pastie.org/8064405
[21:26] <Ben64> PlasmaSheep: wait, no, its correct without the dash
[21:26]  * X-Sleepy-X pours water on kostkon's computer
[21:26] <PlasmaSheep> Ben64: I don't think it is http://pastie.org/8064409
[21:26] <kostkon> X-Sleepy-X, :(
[21:26] <Ben64> PlasmaSheep: what is the output of uname -a
[21:27] <DeathJesterUK> Well holycrap...my mouse appears to be working.
[21:27] <Baribal_> Hi. It seems I just spun up a virtual machine with sucy salamander, based on the server .img; what are the login credentials?
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> deathjesteruk: in xfce?
[21:27] <PlasmaSheep> Ben64: Linux localhost 3.4.0 #1 SMP Thu Apr 11 12:06:00 PDT 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:27] <DeathJesterUK> Yes.
[21:27] <DeathJesterUK> So far anyway.
[21:27] <Ben64> PlasmaSheep: you're not running an ubuntu kernel!
[21:27] <ActionParsnip> deathjesteruk: no compiz, no problem :-)
[21:28] <DeathJesterUK> Thank you. Now, in the interests of furthering my understanding of Linux, what is XFCE?
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> plasmasheepuk: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:28] <PlasmaSheep> Ben64: what do you mean?
[21:28] <Ben64> PlasmaSheep: you aren't running an ubuntu kernel. i cannot simplify that any more
[21:28] <k1l> PlasmaSheep: which ubuntu is that exactly?
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> deathjesteruk: a different desktop to gnome and uses a simpler window manager
[21:29] <PlasmaSheep> k1l: 12.04
[21:29] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, did you have other ideas?
[21:29] <DeathJesterUK> So, its a different Kernel or just a different manager?
[21:29] <PlasmaSheep> Ben64: it's not like ubunut uses a different kernel from, say, debian
[21:29] <ActionParsnip> plasmasheep: the exact output please
[21:29] <Ben64> yes it does
[21:29] <allgood38> PlasmaSheep, How did you get 3.4 installed on 12.04? Did you grab a debian package or something?
[21:29]  * X-Sleepy-X laughs
[21:29] <PlasmaSheep> ActionParsnip: didn't see your last message: Ubuntu 12.04.2 LTS \n \l
[21:29] <k1l> PlasmaSheep: can you pastebin the output from the command "lsb_release -a" please
[21:30] <PlasmaSheep> allgood38: I'm running ubuntu in a chroot on a chromebook
[21:30] <allgood38> Oh, cool!
[21:30] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic precise
[21:30] <k1l> ah a chroot
[21:30] <elisa871> hi i don't know why I count umount the /mnt/linux folder umount: /mnt/linux: device is busy.         (In some cases useful info about processes that use          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1)) here's the result of lsof I killed those process but when I lsof again the same processes show up again http://paste.ubuntu.com/5785033/
[21:31] <PlasmaSheep> k1l: http://pastie.org/8064417
[21:31] <DeathJesterUK> Parsnip, you are a scholar and a gentleperson. :)
[21:31] <ActionParsnip> plasmasheep: you arent using the kernel for your release
[21:31] <F40PH> Hey, I'm having issues with my GMA950
[21:31] <PlasmaSheep> ActionParsnip: do you mean it's newer?
[21:31] <karen_> Hi, I'm fairly new with Linex, and am using Xubuntu. I want to put some pics from my camera onto my computer. I plugged it in, but heck if I know what to do. Linex isn't set up like Windows. Can somebody help me/
[21:31] <k1l> PlasmaSheep: is this a ARM chromebook?
[21:32] <PlasmaSheep> k1l: no, it's x86_64
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> plasmasheep: its not the one from the repos for your release. You are using a kernel from a 3rd party
[21:32] <F40PH> karen_: open your home folder and it should show up on the left
[21:32] <PlasmaSheep> ActionParsnip: so what can I do?
[21:32] <ActionParsnip> karen_: if you open shotwell, do you see the device
[21:33] <karen_> hang on
[21:33] <DeathJesterUK> ActionParsnip: THANK YOU!!
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> deathjesteruk: simple days :-)
[21:34] <oceanbreeze> Hello guys how to access my /var/www/http/wordpress/wp-content/themes dir using ftp server? I already install vsftpd but it is asking me for user and password while trying to connect which i dont know how to specify
[21:34] <DeathJesterUK> Yeah, Im looking at a few things to tweak now.
[21:34] <F40PH> oceanbreeze: just type in your username and password
[21:35] <DeathJesterUK> Is there  a way to adjust the EQ of my headset.
[21:35] <oceanbreeze> root?
[21:35] <DeathJesterUK> I need more bass.
[21:35] <DeathJesterUK> XD
[21:35] <oceanbreeze> F40PH: root?
[21:35] <PlasmaSheep> DeathJesterUK: try alsamixer
[21:35] <karen_> No, i don't see shotwell
[21:35] <modernbob> DeathJesterUK: everyone does
[21:35] <DeathJesterUK> I take it I have to download that. :)
[21:35] <F40PH> oceanbreeze: no, it should have a disk for an icon
[21:36] <oceanbreeze> F40PH: i am using server edition
[21:36] <oceanbreeze> F40PH: 13.04
[21:36] <PlasmaSheep> DeathJesterUK: err, alsaequal
[21:36] <karen_> o.k. I plug my camera in and open my home folder. Then what do I do?
[21:36] <PlasmaSheep> DeathJesterUK: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=88719
[21:37] <darren> hi all, sorry, i know this is an ubuntu chat but does anybody have experience install redhat/cent os via kickstart script?
[21:37] <k1l> darren: come on :/  ask in redhat or centos channels or in #linux
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> oceanbreeze: which ftp server ate you using?
[21:37] <bekks> darren: You'd better ask in #redhat or #centos then.
[21:37] <DeathJesterUK> Also, the windows are kinda laggy when I minimise and maximise them.
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> darren: try in #centos
[21:38] <oceanbreeze> ActionParsnip: vsftpd
[21:38] <F40PH> Hey, I'm having issues with my GMA950, I can't do any 3d rendering.
[21:39] <karen_> Is someone still there to help me load up pics from my camera to my computer. I'm new with xubuntu (linex)?
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> oceanbreeze: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/articles/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-12-04
[21:39] <DeathJesterUK> Oh wow!!! STEAM!!!!
[21:39] <Ben64> karen_: its "linux"
[21:39] <karen_> o.k.
[21:40] <F40PH> karen_: did you open your home folder?
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> karen_: do you see the storage in the file browser?
[21:40] <ActionParsnip> karen_: when you last unpluged it from a PC, did you use the safe remove feature in your OS?
[21:41] <karen_> no
[21:41] <karen_> I have no idea how to do this.
[21:42] <Ben64> karen_: plug in camera, pastebin the last 20 or so lines of the command "dmesg"
[21:42] <contrapunctus> ping
[21:42] <DeathJesterUK> Wow...STEAM really is working hard to get normally DX games working on linux huh?
[21:42] <contrapunctus> ubottu: ping
[21:43] <contrapunctus> ^_^
[21:43] <DeathJesterUK> Pong was awesome. :)
[21:43] <Ben64> !ot
[21:43] <k1l> DeathJesterUK: is there a support question? for chat we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:43] <DeathJesterUK> Sorry.
[21:44] <karen_> I do not know what you mean. Do I go to the terminal, write in "dmesg" and then what?
[21:44] <Ben64> go to pastebin.com and paste the output there
[21:44] <Ben64> then give us the url
[21:45] <oceanbreeze> ActionParsnip: Thanks, i have setup everything already,  but my user is not accepted
[21:46] <karen_> I am so new to this linux and have no idea what you want me to do. I have my camera plugged in right now even though I unplugged it from my computer two times in the last few minutes thinking I had no idea what to do.
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> oceanbreeze: have you considered sftp? it installs with openssh-server and uses your system accounts for auth. Plus it is secure. Is there a particular requirement for ftp?
[21:48] <F40PH> Hey all, I'm having issues with my GMA950, I can't do any 3d rendering which is quite troublesome.
[21:49] <benbloom> ikonia: photorec seems to be doing the trick. it's slow going but so far has recovered 4 massive video files. the testdisk suite from cgsecurity.org seems to have all the tools I need
[21:49] <oceanbreeze> ActionParsnip:Yes i need to upload WP themes
[21:50] <SonikkuAmerica> karen_: " I do not know what you mean. Do I go to the terminal, write in "dmesg" and then what?" ... hit ENTER, then select the text that comes after it, hit Ctrl+Shift+C, then open http://paste.ubuntu.com, click the text window, right-click, hit "Paste" and hit the button below the text box! Then copy and paste the link.
[21:52] <litropy> How can I tell what's making my system load average so high upon bootup? Via indicator-multiload, All other stats: CPU, disk, RAM, are less than 40%.
[21:52] <litropy> Load, however is way up there.
[21:52] <oceanbreeze> ActionParsnip: Ok i have root, and other default user i created, how to set up password for that user so i caould access my ftp?
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> oceanbreeze: tried youtube for vsftpd guides?
[21:53] <DeathJesterUK> Okay, I cant seem to get Alsaequal working.
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> litropy: try: top
[21:54] <litropy> ActionParsnip, I've got htop. What column am I looking for?
[21:55] <mnemon> do people actually find the video guides useful? in most cases a short writeup/tutorial seems like a much better source of information to me ...
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> litropy: load or cpu usage, i only use top personally
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> mnemon: in some cases yes
[21:55] <litropy> thx
[21:56] <jiffe98> start-stop-daemon seems to not work correctly when using --chuid given a username that begins with a number
[21:57] <jiffe98> it sets the uid to that number instead of the uid of the user
[21:57] <F40PH> Hey all, I'm having issues with my GMA950, I can't do any 3d rendering which is quite troublesome.
[21:57] <Guest24853> In my folder, there are a few things, whatever they are, that have a box with an "x" next to them. Should I do anything with those? I'm new to Linux.
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> guest24853: what does the 'file' command say they are?
[21:58] <Guest24853> hang on, let me see
[22:00] <Guest24853> o.k. the ones in my folder that have a white box with an "x" next to them are these four:  Lost and Found, Root, vmlinux, and vmlinuz.old
[22:00] <Guest24853> oops I mean vmlinuz
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> guest24853: you dont need to worry about those, they are system files
[22:01] <Guest24853> o.k.
[22:02] <PlasmaSheep> ActionParsnip: so is there something I can do to run virtualbox?
[22:02] <Guest24853> Now, I was on a few minutes ago asking about puting pics on my computer from my camera. I just don't get how to do that. Can you help me again. I'm sorry.
[22:03] <Guest24853> The camera is unplugged right now.
[22:03] <gordonjcp> Guest24853: plug it in, for a start
[22:03] <Guest24853> hahaha o.k.
[22:03] <Guest24853> plugged in
[22:03] <gordonjcp> did anything happen?
[22:04] <zykotick9> F40PH: if you "lspci | grep -i vga" does it say something about ploubse,pulsbse,or-similar?
[22:04] <Guest24853> it says, "6164-6461" And it has a folder in it that says DCIM
[22:05] <F40PH> zykotick9: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[22:05] <F40PH> zykotick9: thats it
[22:06] <Guest24853> On the left, it seems to have a new thing that says,"1 GB filesys"
[22:07] <F40PH> Guest24853: thats probably it
[22:07] <Guest24853> o.k. so now what?
[22:07] <F40PH> Guest24853: click it
[22:08] <Guest24853> click the file that says "DCIM"?
[22:08] <F40PH> yes\
[22:10] <Guest24853> o.k. now it came up with three folders; "100 MEDIA", "101olymp", and "MISC"
[22:10] <F40PH> Guest24853: go through them all, one of them should have your pictures in it
[22:11] <Guest24853> o.k. hang on
[22:11] <F40PH> zykotick9: so, no it doesnt, it just says:  00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[22:12] <F40PH> zykotick9: its a DVI graphics card with a VGA adapter hooked to it as I don't have a DVI monitor
[22:13] <Guest24853> Dang, now I lost the whole thing when after I tried to open the first one. O.K. camera is still plugged in. How do I get back in there?
[22:14] <F40PH> zykotick9: I can give you a teamviewer session if you would like
[22:14] <F40PH> Guest24853: did you hit the back button?
[22:14] <Guest24853> there wasn't one to hit that I saw anyway.
[22:14] <Andy80> hi guys
[22:14] <F40PH> Guest24853: there usually is
[22:15] <Guest24853> so, how do I get back in there to DCIM?
[22:15] <DeathJesterUK> Okay, I just had a glitch again.
[22:16] <Andy80> I've a Nvidia 640GT and I'm running Ubuntu 13.04. If I go on System Settings --> Software & Updates --> Additional Drivers, I can't see any Nvidia driver available. How can I fix this? How can  verify if I'm using a Nvidia driver?
[22:17] <DeathJesterUK> Okay, can someone explain how I install tars?
[22:17] <heew> anyone here know where I can set bindings for swapping to workspace 1-4 I have set them under keybindings - however <Control><F1-4> does not swap workspaces?
[22:19] <zykotick9> F40PH: <sorry for delay> seems to be several "issues" with that card, this is probably closest http://askubuntu.com/questions/125443/how-can-i-get-my-intel-82945g-gz-video-card-to-support-more-resolutions - i don't have any direct experience with that chipset...  best of luck.
[22:19] <Guest24853> I'm stuck here with my camera plugged in, and am so lost in finding how to find where the pics are.
[22:20] <suyase> How can I locate an NFS server on my local network and mount a directory on it?
[22:20] <F40PH> zykotick9: thanks for your help
[22:20] <suyase> It's all already set up - I know it works, the box I ssh into to get most of my work done has the directory mounted already, but I'm not sure what the hostname is for the box or what the ip for it is
[22:20] <F40PH> Guest24853: does the window look anything like this? http://imgur.com/wts1TKj
[22:21] <Guest24853> no, I'm totally out of my home folder. Tell me again, where should I look?
[22:21] <bertieb> Does anyone have (up-to-date) experience with getting pulseaudio to work over a network? I'm trying to send audio from a headless server to a client sink but most guides are out of date (refer to padevchooser) or assume a desktop. THe problem I'm running into at the moment is that pacmd and pavucontrol are complaining about a not running (as session) daemon, although 'service pulseaudio status' confirms pa is running. Any help on what to try n
[22:21] <F40PH> go to the home folder and click the 1GB filesys
[22:22] <oceanbreeze> Omfg please help, vsftpd,i created user, i set the password, and i still cant access my ftp server
[22:22] <F40PH> Guest24853: go to the home folder and click the 1GB filesys
[22:22] <Guest24853> k hang on
[22:23] <F40PH> Guest24853: I was just asking, does the file manager window look anything like that link?
[22:23] <Guest24853> it doesn't say 1GB filesys anymore even though my camera is still plugged in. Should I unplug and plug it back in?
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> bertieb: i do similar but with samba, the files are decoded as they stream rather than the aidio itself
[22:24] <OerHeks> Guest24853, turn the camera off first
[22:24] <F40PH> Guest24853: yes
[22:24] <Guest24853> o.k.
[22:25] <bertieb> ActionParsnip: cheers, but I'd like to get audio from an application sent across the network :)
[22:25] <pr0n_> how can i change the ubuntu's searching algorithm in the OS. please give me some basic helps
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> bertieb: could try in the pulseaudio channel
[22:25] <iceroot> pr0n_: ?
[22:26] <iceroot> pr0n_: and please change your nick
[22:26] <bertieb> ActionParsnip: good call, I'll have a try there too- this places tends to be knowledgable and friendly so I thought I'd try here first!
[22:26] <pr0n_> iceroot: like i want to know if changing such things are possible in the OS. suppose i want to make those kind of editings. is it possible?
[22:26] <Guest24853> o.k. now I'm back to the folder that says "DCIM". Now what?
[22:27] <iceroot> pr0n_: what you want to edit there exactly
[22:28] <iceroot> pr0n_: and the search-feature is not part of the os, maybe its part of nautilus, dash-board or whatever search you are using
[22:28] <pr0n_> like right now the ubuntu search is somewhat like ill put something in the search bar and il press the enter key and then il get the results. but suppose il make a file directory list, and ill do some kind of dynamic searching to make it better and fast
[22:28] <Brewski> Has anyone tried a preseeded/usb install with 13.04 yet? I'm having a ridiculously hard time. "cdrom-retriever: warning: unable to find {main,restricted,universe,multiverse}/debian-installer/binary-amd64/pPackages.gz in /cdrom/dists/raring/Release. The Release file is there but no references to 'debian-installer' in it
[22:28] <F40PH> Guest24853: open the next folder
[22:29] <Guest24853> hang on
[22:30] <Brewski> the graphical end of the installer gets stuck in "[!!] Load installer components from an installer ISO": "failed to copy file from CD-ROM. Retry?". Syslog confirms that the ISO was mounted correclty and I can access /cdrom from a shell
[22:30] <proneet> iceroot: nautilus is the file manager ofr ubuntu, right?
[22:30] <iceroot> proneet: yes
[22:31] <Manju> Hello
[22:31] <Manju>   I am using Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS Server with PHP Version 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.19 Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu).  I am login to the server via putty. I want upgrade to php 5.4. I could not find the correct code for it from Google. I am not expert in Linux. Please help me step by step.
[22:31] <Brewski> manju: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[22:31] <Brewski> or just apt-get update && apt-get install php
[22:32] <Brewski> correction: php5, not php
[22:32] <proneet> iceroot: https://git.gnome.org/browse/nautilus/ how can i look into how this things works, and understand its searching technique.. sorry but i am beginner, so asking these basic questions
[22:32] <suyase> If I have my_dict = {'this_my_key' : 0 }, and would like to access a key in this dictionary (my_key = 'this_my_key') and I have identifier = 'my_key', how can I basically do my_dict[identifier] but match the KEY to the identifier on (identifier == key[6:])
[22:33] <Guest24853> o.k., now, when I hit the "DCIM" folder, it takes me not to three folders, but to something that says, "Media" "6164-6461" "DCIM"
[22:33] <F40PH> hit DCIM
[22:33] <Guest24853> o.k.
[22:34] <iceroot> proneet: apt-get source nautilus
[22:34] <Guest24853> Hitting DCIM doesn't do anything and there's not an "open" box to hit either.
[22:34] <iceroot> proneet: then you will have the source package with the source code
[22:34] <proneet> iceroot: oh. thank you!
[22:35] <blz> Hello.  I tried restricting access to the compilers with a "compiler" group with the instructions here:  http://hastebin.com/rerurobihu.hs  Now when I try to run g++, I get the following error:  http://hastebin.com/cikojajemo.hs
[22:35] <blz> how can I fix this?
[22:36] <ablegreen> sometimes when i boot ubuntu, i get this message and it hangs: http://i.imgur.com/m0alIUI.png -- any ideas?
[22:37] <F40PH> Guest24853: double click
[22:37] <Guest24853> o.k.
[22:38] <Guest24853> no
[22:38] <Spec-Chum> blz: try chmod 755 *++* and try again a sec
[22:38] <Spec-Chum> blz: looks like a group issue
[22:38] <blz> Spec-Chum, will do
[22:38] <kfankhau> from shell, how would I move all files from one directory to another, but not subdirectories? I think 'mv * /target_dir' will move everything.
[22:39] <uBuNtz> Hello
[22:39] <blz> Spec-Chum, g++: error trying to exec 'as': execvp: Permission denied
[22:39] <F40PH> Guest24853: ?
[22:39] <Guest24853> so back to   media 6164-6461 DCIM
[22:39] <uBuNtz> Any of you heard of anyone successfully installing ubuntu server on an archos tablet?
[22:39] <Guest24853> Nothing seems to open, sorry.
[22:40] <F40PH> try 6164-6461
[22:40] <Guest24853> k
[22:40] <blz> Spec-Chum, which is odd because I added my user to /etc/group
[22:40] <Spec-Chum> kfankhau: cp is non recursive, do that then rm the original
[22:40] <trism> blz: did you log out, back in between adding yourself to the group?
[22:40] <blz> trism, I did not
[22:40] <OerHeks> uBuNtz, try #ubuntu-arm
[22:40] <Spec-Chum> blz: ^^
[22:40] <trism> blz: you won't be in the group until you do
[22:40] <kfankhau> I don't want to cp because many GB of data
[22:40] <blz> trism, ah okay thanks
[22:41] <Guest24853> hitting that takes me back to the picture of the folder DCIM. Hitting the folder, takes me back to the other. Hitting one or the other takes me around again.
[22:41] <F40PH> try media then
[22:41] <Guest24853> k
[22:43] <Guest24853> that takes me to a folder that says, 6164-6461
[22:43] <nintet> !help ftp
[22:43] <nintet> !ftp
[22:44] <nintet> !ftpd
[22:44] <Spec-Chum> kfankhau: only way I can think off :/
[22:44] <Spec-Chum> sorry
[22:44] <usr13> nintet: proftpd is my pic
[22:44] <F40PH> click that
[22:44] <Spec-Chum> s/off/of
[22:44] <nintet> i just want something quick and dirty
[22:45] <usr13> nintet: proftpd it is
[22:45] <benedikt> i just installed fglxr-updates and i'm pretty sure that it is actually slower than radeon. Can that be true?
[22:45] <Guest24853> It won't double click, but if I open it, it sends me back to DCIM  hummm
[22:46] <F40PH> go back to your home folder and click the 1gb filesys'
[22:47] <Guest24853> k
[22:47] <Spec-Chum> benedikt: I can't see if being slower, but the radeon driver is rather good theses days :)
[22:48] <kfankhau> Spec-Chum: okay, thanks
[22:48] <benedikt> Spec-Chum: seems so. too bad i need the propitary one for a while :(
[22:48] <Guest24853> it says, "media 6164-6461" on top, and the folder, DCIM, is underneath that.
[22:48] <F40PH> Guest24853: reboot your machine\
[22:49] <Guest24853> if I do that, I'll loose you, right/
[22:49] <F40PH> Guest24853: you can reconnect to the irc, i'll still be here
[22:49] <Guest24853> k
[22:49] <nintet> proftpd didnt install right
[22:49] <nintet> piece of crap
[22:49] <Spec-Chum> lol
[22:50] <usr13> nintet: Why didn't it?
[22:50] <usr13> nintet: (It's never failed me.)
[22:50] <nintet> ProFTPD warning: cannot start neither in standalone nor in inetd/xinetd mode. Check your configuration.
[22:51] <usr13> nintet: How did you try to start it?
[22:51] <nintet> i didn't start it
[22:51] <nintet> just typed sudo apt-get install proftpd
[22:52] <usr13> nintet: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[22:53] <nintet> just installed Xubuntu 12.04 LTS
[22:53] <DeathJesterUK> Okay, my desktop is running painfully slowly. Any ideas why? Open windows are fine, but, when opening something or switching programs, its very slow.
[22:53] <usr13> nintet: uname -r
[22:53] <karen_> F40PH I was the guest who had to reboot with camera issues. Here I am. Should I connect my camera?
[22:53] <nintet> 3.2.0-37-generic
[22:54] <Spec-Chum> uname -a might be better
[22:54] <usr13> nintet: Sorry, I meant, lsb_release -r
[22:54] <F40PH> karen_: yes
[22:54] <diabel232> how can i change fastest mirror for apt-get in console?
[22:54] <nintet> man,
[22:55] <usr13> nintet: You must be on 12.04?  (You need to do updates.)  sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:55] <k1l> diabel232: edit the sources.list in /etc/apt
[22:55] <k1l> diabel232: but be aware of the changes you make
[22:55] <diabel232> thx
[22:55] <F40PH> karen_: I am really sorry but I must leave for now, I'm sure some of the people here will help you, plus there are alot of resources on the internet
[22:56] <karen_> thanks for your help, F40Ph!
[22:56] <DeathJesterUK> Anyone got a idea why my desktop is running so slowly?
[22:56] <Moloch> hi every
[22:57] <Spec-Chum> DeathJesterUK: er, a little more info?
[22:57] <lauren> hi everyone
[22:57] <Spec-Chum> hi lauren
[22:57] <holstein> DeathJesterUK: i would start ruling things out.. try commands from TTY, try as another user.. try a live CD to take the OS out of the equation.. test the hard ware
[22:57] <lauren> does anyone know how to auto start Pidgin 2.10.7 on boot
[22:58] <Spec-Chum> lauren: add it to startup apps?
[22:58] <DeathJesterUK> Its just slow? When I open up the top button and search for something, its just very slow. Hardware is fine I can assure you. Dont know what TTY is, I dont have any other users, this is a fresh installe.
[22:58] <OerHeks> lauren usually you run those apps on login.
[22:59] <lauren> Spec-Chum, OerHeks  okay I opened up startup apps, what do I put in for the command?
[22:59] <holstein> DeathJesterUK: you need not assure me, but if you havent tested, just now, the hardware *can* be bad, and you should assure yourself.. take a note of the few steps i gave to isolate issues
[22:59] <holstein> !tty | DeathJesterUK
[23:00] <Spec-Chum> lauren: just pidgin should be fine
[23:00] <casshern> hi
[23:00] <lauren> Spec-Chum, thank you I am going to try it, will it also log me in auto?
[23:01] <DeathJesterUK> TTYs run fine.
[23:02] <casshern> anyone knows how to close entirely the apps like xchat, when i don't need it (Ubuntu 13.04)
[23:02] <casshern> im new on linux
[23:03] <Manju> This is my result Please check
[23:03] <Manju> root@moodle /# apt-get update Err http://archive.turnkeylinux.org lucid-security Release.gpg   Temporary failure resolving 'archive.turnkeylinux.org' Err http://archive.ubuntu.com lucid-security Release.gpg   Temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com' Err http://archive.ubuntu.com lucid Release.gpg   Temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com' Err http://archive.ubuntu.com lucid-updates Release.gpg   Temporary failure reso
[23:03] <holstein> DeathJesterUK: what are you using in tty?
[23:03] <k1l> !paste | Manju
[23:03] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: did you sort out your issue?
[23:04] <OerHeks> Licid desktop is EOL
[23:04] <OerHeks> *Lucid
[23:04] <holstein> casshern: you can just close them, like normal..
[23:04] <DeathJesterUK> holstein: Talk to me like a noob, this is the first time I have used Linux of any distro. I am wondering if I need to activate 3d aceleration or something.
[23:04] <casshern> yeah but its normal that remain on the top bar
[23:04] <casshern> ???
[23:05] <Spec-Chum> casshern: are you sure you're not just minimising them?
[23:05] <holstein> DeathJesterUK: what did you type into the terminal when you went to tty?
[23:05] <casshern> ill try with ctrl-Q too and nothing
[23:05] <DeathJesterUK> My user name and then my password.
[23:06] <holstein> DeathJesterUK: you might need to install a graphics driver to support 3d better
[23:06] <DeathJesterUK> I am using the X.Org one at the moment.
[23:06] <k1l> casshern: can you make a picture of what you mean? when i clicked on the little x on the window xchat closes down
[23:07] <holstein> DeathJesterUK: what graphics hardware do you have?
[23:07] <DeathJesterUK> ATI 7970 3GB Special Edition
[23:07] <Spec-Chum> nice card!
[23:08] <holstein> !ati | DeathJesterUK
[23:08] <Spec-Chum> the xorg drivers are fine, and actaully quite good
[23:08] <Spec-Chum> DeathJesterUK: you'll be fine
[23:09] <Spec-Chum> holstein: assuming they're working OK of course
[23:09] <holstein> Spec-Chum: DeathJesterUK says the desktop is slow.. any suggestions?
[23:09] <Spec-Chum> DeathJesterUK: type 'glxinfo'
[23:09] <holstein> DeathJesterUK: first thing i would do is look for and apply upgrades and reboot
[23:09] <Spec-Chum> lets make sure the drivers are installed and running OK
[23:10] <DeathJesterUK> Okay, I typed GLXINFO and got a wall of text. :)
[23:10] <k1l> DeathJesterUK: look into syslog or dmesg and make sure the driver modul gets loaded propperly
[23:10] <Spec-Chum> DeathJesterUK: yeah, my bad, try glxinfo | grep direct
[23:10] <DeathJesterUK> Direct rendering yes.
[23:11] <Spec-Chum> first line should be direct renderin: yes
[23:11] <Spec-Chum> perfect
[23:11] <Spec-Chum> DeathJesterUK: do you have inxi installed?
[23:11] <Spec-Chum> type inxi -Gx
[23:11] <DeathJesterUK> inxi?
[23:11] <casshern> hi its me again
[23:11] <DeathJesterUK> Command not found.
[23:11] <Bewbasaurus> anybody know the thunderbird command for running at startup
[23:12] <Spec-Chum> DeathJesterUK: no worries, ignore that for now
[23:12] <Spec-Chum> DeathJesterUK: your gfx drivers are running fine
[23:12] <Spec-Chum> it's not that
[23:12] <holaxd> hika+
[23:12] <holaxd> hola
[23:12] <holaxd> :D
[23:12] <DeathJesterUK> Just so you know, I am running on XCFE as Unity 2 was messing with my mouse.
[23:12] <DeathJesterUK> As in, my mouse wouldnt work. Dont know if that helps.
[23:13] <casshern> i check the process and everything work fine (i dint realize that just the icon remain, but the process don't) thank you guys!
[23:13] <holstein> DeathJesterUK: how did you get to xfce?
[23:13] <DeathJesterUK> Through Terminal.
[23:13] <Skymont> "Thousands of technology, finance and manufacturing companies are working closely with U.S. national security agencies, providing sensitive information and in return receiving benefits that include access to classified intelligence, four people familiar with the process said."
[23:13] <holstein> DeathJesterUK: have you tried as another user? since this is *not* a fresh install?
[23:13] <DeathJesterUK> Someone else here helped me get it.
[23:13] <Skymont> is Ubuntu one of these companies providing back doors to the government?
[23:13] <DeathJesterUK> I dont have any other users. There is just this one.
[23:13] <Spec-Chum> DeathJesterUK: I can't really think of anything that would cause Xfce to go slow
[23:13] <holstein> DeathJesterUK: how exactly were you helped to get it?
[23:14] <DeathJesterUK> I cant remember the commands now.
[23:14] <holstein> DeathJesterUK: i hear you. *create* a new user, and test.. or try the guest account
[23:14] <holstein> DeathJesterUK: please confirm the commands that have beed run on your system
[23:14] <DeathJesterUK> How do I do that?
[23:14] <Skymont> in particular is financial company Canonical Ltd, one of the companies working with government just like Microsoft?
[23:15] <eoin_> windows 8 ftw
[23:15] <Manju> My result check here
[23:15] <Manju> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5785259/plain/
[23:15] <holstein> DeathJesterUK: if someone else ran commands on my system, and i had issues with the system, i would ask them what they had ran, and make a note for the volunteers here to further understand what could be the issue
[23:15] <suyase> So if I have a massive dict that needs to be initialized, is there a way to put it in the code somewhere where it is both easily accessible, but also doesn't take up a massive amount of screen space and make you scroll past it to get to functional code?
[23:16] <holstein> DeathJesterUK: i am not trying to be combative, but whoever rane whatever on your machine could have changes things drastically from the deafualts that the volunteers here and able to support
[23:16] <DeathJesterUK> I couldnt use it at all before. And the lag was still there then so I didnt think anything of it.
[23:16] <eoin_> i need help installing osx
[23:16] <holstein> eoin_: try an apple support channel
[23:16] <kostkon_> eoin_: wrong channel
[23:16] <eoin_> but that costs money
[23:16] <DeathJesterUK> You wouldnt have been supporting anything to be honest if he hadnt, I would have reinstalled windows nad never looked back at linuix.
[23:16] <k1l> eoin_: keep this channel clear for ubuntu support please.
[23:17] <DeathJesterUK> Let me try a new user. I dont think it will help though.
[23:17] <eoin_> ok, i need help installing freeBSD
[23:17] <Spec-Chum> DeathJesterUK: mouse input is handled by xorg, it shouldn't matter what DE you're using
[23:18] <Spec-Chum> kil: aww :D
[23:18] <Aww> Don't kill Aww D:
[23:18] <Spec-Chum> oh, sorry Aww haha
[23:18] <casshern> in matters of security and  stability wich would be your option: 1-Ubuntu 2-OpenSuse 3- Other
[23:18] <Spec-Chum> Aww Aww?
[23:18] <Aww> Its fine :P I love messing with people :p
[23:19] <deathjesteru> No, this is just as bad.
[23:19] <k1l> !ot | casshern
[23:20] <Guest8358> I was trying to get help with getting pics off my camera and on to my computer. I'm new with xubuntu, an don't know how. The girl who was helping had to leave. Now, I see, my camera is void of all the pics, so they must be on my computer somewhere, right? I see in my filesystem a brown folder that says, "initrd.img" with an arrow pointing to the left. Next to it, is a box that says, "imitrd.img.old" with the arrow pointing to the left
[23:20] <Guest8358> . What in the hey ho should I do/
[23:21] <Spec-Chum> DeathJesterUK: is the whole thing slow, like moving windows is slow too?
[23:21] <Spec-Chum> DeathJesterUK: you just mentioned searching before
[23:21] <deathjesteru> Moving windows is slow, opening programs is slow, searching for programs is slow. ONce open, its fine.
[23:22] <holstein> deathjesteru: what are the specs of the machine?
[23:22] <deathjesteru> AMD 8 core 3.5GHz, 12 GB RAM, AMD 7970 3GB GPU.
[23:22] <holstein> deathjesteru: when you say "this is just as bad" are you refferting to having made a new user? and tested?
[23:22] <deathjesteru> Yeah, Im on a guest account right now.
[23:23] <daftykins> Guest8358: you're looking in the wrong folder, you want to be in /home/<username>/Pictures/
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> Guest8358, I would ask your helper, without us having a file or pc name all we can say is look in home and the folders in the left sd of the panel there.
[23:23] <wilee-nilee> side*
[23:23] <holstein> deathjesteru: do you have a live CD?
[23:23] <deathjesteru> Yes, it was just the same on that.
[23:23] <Guest8358> k let me look
[23:23] <holstein> !nomodeset | deathjesteru this is what i would try.. i would try it from the live CD
[23:24] <holstein> deathjesteru: sure.. try it with the nomodeset option please, and report. thanks!
[23:24] <Spec-Chum> holstein: I can't see KMS doing that to be fair
[23:24] <Spec-Chum> he's on xorg drivers
[23:24] <Spec-Chum> well, says he is
[23:25] <deathjesteru> In the additional drivers section it says I am using XORG drivers.
[23:25] <Guest8358> There is nothing unusual or different in the list on the left in "home". I have looked in all of those thinking they went somewhere like in pics or doc or downloads, but not, I guess.
[23:25] <eoin_> hi im from the NSA give me all your metadata
[23:25] <holstein> deathjesteru: you can try the ones at the wiki page i suggested
[23:25] <holstein> !ati | deathjesteru
[23:26] <eoin__> can a qt quick 2 program run without xorg? anyone know
[23:26] <George_> Hey everyone, I was wondering if anyone could help me. I'm trying to recover my root password but Recovery Mode gets stuck on a black screen of death and using Escape to edit the boot menu doesn't allow me to boot with root permissions after I add "init rw /bin/sh"
[23:26] <Manju> I am using Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS Server with PHP Version 5.3.2.  I want upgrade to php 5.4 via putty. Pls help me.When I run #apt-get upgrade check here http://paste.ubuntu.com/5785298/ my result
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> George_, User password? There is no root password unless you made one.
[23:27] <George_> II can't make one without root lol
[23:27] <Spec-Chum> Manju: um, you have a net connection, right?
[23:28] <holstein> Manju: says "Temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com'" also says maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> George_, Can we get to the point here, ubuntu does not have a root password nor advises making one.
[23:28] <Spec-Chum> Manju: on the target machine, I mean
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> George_, What s it you are trying to recover exactly.
[23:28] <George_> root permissions for my user.
[23:29] <holstein> !root | George_
[23:29] <eoin__> try root or toor
[23:30]  * compdoc hopes George_ understands the Matrix-speak
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> George_, You can reset it in recovery http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword  You want to be careful with the wording syntax, if I understand you it is the admin users password.
[23:31] <George_> Thank you.
[23:31] <George_> I have major trouble with that
[23:31] <daftykins> sudo is good.
[23:31] <holstein> George_: when you say "that", what are you referring to?
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> George_, Heh, me to at times, we just want to point you in the right directon is all. ;)
[23:31] <George_> Ubuntu won't boot into recovery mode
[23:32] <George_> It black screens
[23:32] <wilee-nilee> George_, Recovery is in the grub menu
[23:32] <George_> yes.
[23:32] <George_> You hit return
[23:32] <holstein> George_: tap shift to try and show grub
[23:32] <DeathJesterUK> WAY too much command line stuff. :(
[23:32] <DeathJesterUK> But, Im getting there.
[23:32] <George_> tried that
[23:32] <George_> trying again
[23:33] <BAMbanda> hey everyone I'm trying to install the addon-sdk on my ubuntu. It has a program called "cfx" which I can  run using ./cfx, but I need to run that command in a different directory where I want to create my project ("cfx init"), but it won't recognize it unless in in the addons folder, what do i do?
[23:33] <George_> I also tried to boot from Ubuntu Live CD, however, it also gets stuck on the Ubuntu loading screen with white and orange dots.
[23:34] <Spec-Chum> BAMbanda: add it to the path?
[23:34] <eoin__> how old is that distro on the cd
[23:34] <daftykins> BAMbanda: either add the path where that program is to your PATH environment variable, or give it the full path to invoke it e.g. /place/where/it/is/.cfx init
[23:35] <BAMbanda> yeah, true, thanks
[23:35] <eoin__> can a qt quick 2 program run without xorg? anyone know
[23:36] <George_> holstein: what do you mean tap shift? in the boot menu or during the black screen? Because both didn't work
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> George_, Start tapping the shift as soon as you power on.
[23:38] <George_> ok
[23:38] <George_> just to clarify i'm getting into the boot menu fine
[23:38] <George_> its after i hit return and try and boot into recovery mode
[23:38] <eoin__> qt quick programs, can they run without x11?
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> George_, Cool do you see the recovery choice it will be from the second line, which is a little different from the links picture with grub 2 is all.
[23:40] <George_> yep
[23:40] <k1l> !patience | eoin__
[23:40] <Spec-Chum> eoin__: a quick google says not
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> George_, So if you get to the recovery choice and choose it what happens?
[23:40] <Spec-Chum> http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/8120
[23:40] <b3lial> I have a question about switching DE's and updating/upgrading
[23:40] <Spec-Chum> eoin__: ^^
[23:41] <Spec-Chum> eoin__: well, actually it says maybe :p
[23:42] <eoin__> qt quick 2 draws everything using opengl es but does it still need x11 to draw the initial window
[23:42] <Nick119119> Hello, ubuntu goers! I'm having a weird problem right now, I have a rar file and an unrarred file on my usb drive called .techniclauncher, and for some reason it's made the files hidden and read only. I can't change anything about them or make anything inside them executable. How can I change their hidden status?
[23:44] <th0r> Nick119119, they are hidden because they start with a .
[23:46] <Nick119119> I need them to start with a . otherwise the launcher can't detect them, so I can't play modded minecraft
[23:46] <eoin__> press ctrl + H
[23:47] <Nick119119> I still can't launch the stuff inside when I press ctrl h
[23:48] <k1l> Nick119119: did you set the file +x ?
[23:48] <Guest53088> ya
[23:48] <k1l> (give it the right to execute?
[23:48] <Nick119119> I tick the box that sets it to an executable, but the box un-ticks itself :(
[23:48] <th0r> Nick119119, the usb drive is fat format, you won't be able to control the file attributes like in linux
[23:49] <Nick119119> Oh. Hm. I tried copying the folders to my desktop, but I have no idea where they went
[23:49] <eoin__> sudo nautilus /home/name/morenames/morename
[23:49] <th0r> Nick119119, they are still hidden....they are probably in ~/Desktop/.???
[23:50] <daftykins> eoin__: *gksudo
[23:50] <Nick119119> ~/Desktop/.??? Hmm.... How do I get there? I'm a total Linux newblet, I only switched yesterday because I ggot sick of windows sucking
[23:51] <eoin__> whats the gk for?
[23:51] <daftykins> eoin__: it's the safe practice for using sudo on GUI apps
[23:51] <k1l> eoin__: for grafical programs
[23:51] <th0r> Nick119119, ~ is shorthand for /home/<username>
[23:53] <Nick119119> Found it and got it working, thank you guys very much!
[23:53] <cobra-the-joker> Hey guys ... how can i enable vesa ?
[23:53] <daftykins> Nick119119: both OSs work for me :(
[23:54] <Nick119119> daftykins: I like windows on my desktop, but on my laptop it was rather awful
[23:54] <daftykins> how odd
[23:57] <Hyperiant> I just installed fglrx; fglrxinfo runs fine and everything works smoothly, but the bottom right corner of my screen is filled with an obtrusive "AMD Unsupported Hardware" logo even though it's supposed to support my device
[23:58] <daftykins> Hyperiant: you got a very new card or something?
[23:58] <Hyperiant> daftykins: Radeon 7770; it's at least 2 years old, and it didn't have this problem before I upgraded my mobo
[23:59] <daftykins> and you're getting the driver direct from AMD, or?
[23:59] <Hyperiant> I used sudo apt-get install fglrx fglrx-amdcccle
[23:59] <daftykins> Hyperiant: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2130982&s=e0978849c690f9387cbc24f42ca0bc02&p=12582495#post12582495