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JimmyNeutronHow do I disable single user mode to prevent someone from booting into single user mode?  In Ubuntu, it was in /etc/default/grub, but in Xubuntu, it's a binary file.00:44
pleia2it shouldn't be00:45
pleia2/etc/default/grub is a config file, just like in ubuntu00:45
JimmyNeutronpleia2, I tried using sudo vi /etc/default/grub00:46
JimmyNeutronlet me try again00:46
JimmyNeutronok...my vi editor is screwing00:47
JimmyNeutroncat display text but vi doesnt work...I'll reinstall vi00:47
JimmyNeutronthanks!00:47
pleia2JimmyNeutron: sure, good luck :)00:50
DistrotHi. I'm having issues with Xubuntu installers for 12.04 LTS and 13.04. Sometimes they will install, sometimes they won't. In general, if it does install, says "low disk space" during the install and the OS is rather unstable with Firefox and other apps crashing, and if it doesn't install, it crashes and says there's a disk read error and cannot give me a specific reason. Any ideas?02:39
haljhonso this is only on those two things?02:40
haljhonyou've tested something else and it works properly?02:40
DistrotI have tested Ubuntu 13.04 and it also has an installation crash.02:41
DistrotMaybe I should make a tiny chart of what I have installed and what has worked(?)02:41
haljhonI guess I'm trying to understand what you've done to eliminate a problem with your target system.02:42
DistrotLast week: XBMCbuntu (unstable); Xubuntu 12.04 LTS (unstable); Ubuntu 13.04 (stable); Xubuntu 13.04 (unstable); Xubuntu 12.04 (unstable)02:43
DistrotThose were installs that worked, however the Xubuntu installs complained about low disk space.02:43
DistrotAnd the unstable/stable describes the OS and the amount of crashing that occurred from apps02:43
haljhonso Ubuntu 13.04 is the only thing that was stable out of all of that?02:44
DistrotYes, basically.02:44
haljhonis this repeatable?02:45
DistrotNo, because I cannot install it anymore.02:45
haljhon?02:45
DistrotIt's saying ubiquity has crashed and states that it is a bug.02:45
haljhonDo you suppose you have a system-related issue that needs to be investigate?02:46
DistrotI ran hardware tests for HDD, CPU and memory to see if there was an issue there, and the CPU and HDD came out without errors.02:46
DistrotHowever, I localized the issue with the memory to one particular stick of two.02:46
w30x/quit02:47
DistrotSo I removed the stick and tested again and the sole remaining stick of memory had no errors after several tests.02:47
DistrotSo, I can say with "relative" confidence that the issues are not the CPU, HDD, or memory...02:47
haljhonso you had a problem with memory during your testing?02:48
haljhonor you eliminated this problem after the testing?02:48
grythere is no website version in other languages, is there? does the website software allow localisation?02:48
DistrotI eliminated a problem with memory during my testing.02:48
Distrotgry: What language do you need?02:48
gryit's a question in principle (my English is okay, but I'd be happy to translate if that's possible)02:49
haljhonso... let's just talk about current stuff you can test... in your system right now, you have resolved the memory issue by removing a problem stick and then re-ran the memory test and it passed, yes? And by memory test, are you referring to something like MemTest?02:49
DistrotI have been trying to eliminate an issue with the pen-drive, as I have used a few different pen-drive installers (Universal, LiLi) as well as a few different pen-drives and a few different computers to make the bootable pen-drives.02:50
haljhonwhy are you using a pen drive to install?02:50
Distrotgry: Oh, I see. I believe you can type in Xubuntu and a language and a version will come up (e.g. Xubuntu french).02:50
DistrotMy laptop doesn't have a DVD drive. Should I be using DVDs instead?02:51
haljhonYou don't have to use optical media but I have a number of problems with USB installers.02:51
haljhonhang on02:52
haljhonbrb.02:52
DistrotReally? Would you personally recommend a DVD?02:52
DistrotOk02:52
haljhonactually02:54
haljhonon account of crappy USB drives that seem to really jack-up my installations, I've been using the ISO directly in grub and booting it with the toram parameter02:54
DistrotThis was my first experience with Xubuntu, and I must say; it hasn't been pleasant... lol.02:54
Distrot... You can do that? lol02:55
gryyou look optimistic enough to keep going :-p02:55
haljhonin fact you can and I've installed all of the systems I have that way02:55
DistrotWell, it is a very nice OS. I just wish it worked. lol02:55
grywhat is the problem again?02:56
haljhonthe best practice I've had is to use separate partition from where I plan to install the OS and then park the ISO there...02:56
DistrotHaven't been able to install successfully and stably.02:56
gryno dvd drive at your computer?02:56
DistrotWell, I have computers around that have some.02:56
haljhonthen there are some instructions on booting the ISO using grub: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot02:56
DistrotI just used the pendrive since I have several projects going on and replacing the OS on the pendrive is easier than burning a new disc.02:57
haljhonthis requires Grub2... but if you have one of the OSs you mentioned above installed, Grub2 is there to be used.02:57
DistrotWould you recommend this method over DVD installs?02:57
haljhonI don't use DVD installs anymore because they are slower02:57
DistrotTo install or make?02:58
haljhonI haven't seen any problems with the method as long as you are sure to use the toram parameter02:58
haljhonyou also need enough RAM to load the ISO into memory02:58
haljhonhow much RAM do you have left in the system?02:58
DistrotWell, I had 2GB in this machine, but I had to remove one stick due to memtest86 errors, so I only have 1GB now.02:59
haljhonmmmm... so I don't know what ubiquity requires02:59
Distrotto the memtest86*02:59
haljhonbut that sounds like you're cutting it close on running out of memory.02:59
DistrotYeah...02:59
DistrotI might just go ahead and do the DVD install then.03:00
haljhonwhat brand pen drives are you using?03:00
DistrotI'm using SanDisk.03:00
DistrotDifferent kinds though.03:00
haljhonI see03:01
DistrotA "Cruzer" and a "Cruzer Edge"03:01
DistrotI guess SanDisk thought it was a good name... lol.03:01
haljhonso my experience with Ubuntu on a stick has always been a relatively poor installation process that may or may not work accompanied by the inability to use the bootable Linux on the stick again because of random errors or other crap.03:02
DistrotHmm, I see. I didn't realize that was a prevalent problem.03:02
haljhonI just chucked the idea after having that happen multiple times... I attributed the problems to the brand of sticks I had available to me: Kingston03:02
DistrotEspecially since Canonical seems to advocate the use of pendrives, lol.03:02
haljhonI've since replaced all the drives with Lexars but I haven't re-tested.03:02
DistrotRight. What you're saying makes some sense I suppose.03:03
DistrotThe thing that gets me is that the stick worked on two other machines but this one.03:03
DistrotBut, I suppose I should try a DVD install first and then that will rule out the stick being the issue.03:04
haljhonI can only say what I've seen from my personal experience...03:04
haljhonI don't think, by any stretch, we have anything conclusive here from our discussion03:04
haljhon:)03:04
DistrotRight, no, I get what you're saying and I see the logic.03:04
haljhonI do, however, reinstall my systems with some flavor of buntu all the time03:05
DistrotHave you tried a DVD install successfully though? Not to drag this out, lol.03:05
DistrotRecurrent success, I guess I should ask.03:05
haljhonI never had failed CD installs unless I used the crappiest media of all existence03:06
haljhon(I own some of this)03:06
haljhonI have some CD media I bought on discount at Circuit City when they closed. It's branded Nexius or something like that... worst media ever03:06
haljhonIn contrast, the TDK media that I buy at work has never given me any problems.03:06
haljhonthe only DVD install I've done has been the Kubuntu flavor and only because it now requires a DVD for physical writing.03:07
DistrotLol... "Nexius"03:08
DistrotHm, ok. That gives me a bit more confidence then.03:08
DistrotWell, I'm going to stick around. I'll holler if it works or not, if you're going to be around that is.03:09
DistrotDownloading a new Xubuntu 13.04 on the machine with the DVD burner.03:09
haljhonI will not be around in active form... I'm about to go to sleep because my toddler will wake me up in the middle of the night.03:09
DistrotOh ok. Well, good night then. I appreciate your assistance!03:10
haljhonnp03:11
DistrotAnybody around?04:10
DistrotJust got a Xubuntu 13.04 install error:: E:Encoutnered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_universe_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.04:14
SunStarrun the ISO through a torrent app to  force check, verify the data and fix any found corruption04:17
DistrotDoing that now, thanks.04:20
DistrotDid that. Any other ideas though?04:21
SunStarreboot n try again04:30
DistrotBut you think it's only a corruption issue?04:31
SunStarcould have been a random hiccup04:31
SunStarcould try running a SMART check on the hard drive04:32
SunStarhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools04:33
SunStarthat can be installed while booted into the install cd04:33
SunStarif it happens again you can check back in here for further help04:34
DistrotOk, thanks. I appreciate it.04:34
DistrotCrashed again. Different DVD this time.04:40
DistrotWon't even close the crash dialog to give me an error.04:41
DistrotJust restarted. Going to try to go into Live Session and run the SMART check.04:42
DistrotTrying the first DVD again for the heck of it.04:49
DistrotMaybe it'll reproduce an error.04:50
DistrotThe background didn't even appear on the second DVD, so it seems like it's in worse shape or something.04:50
ur0plxbuntu 12.04 recognizes and can "ennumerate" my two usb "3.0/2.0" but it cannot do that with my 8 usb "2.0/1.0"  slots on my gigabyte ud5 board. I do not understand, i thought ubuntu would be up to day with technology04:56
holsteinur0pl: did you see my other post? in the other channel?04:58
holstein!patience04:58
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/04:58
ur0plokay05:01
xubuntu082hi05:49
xubuntu082quick question05:49
xubuntu082about wireless drivers.05:49
xubuntu082where does the driver go in the etc dir?05:50
xubuntu082anybody here?05:51
xubuntu882hi. just installed xubuntu 12.04. chose to encrypt home directory. didn't get to generate the passphrase through Notifications (clicked to see the next notification and then i couldn't go back, wtf..??). What was the terminal command for generating the passphrase AND/OR how do you get to see old notifications again? thanks!08:00
toraxabout the question about /home encryption, doesnt that open with user password, so theres no need for another passphrase10:40
SysiI think so, never actualy tried10:50
toraxIt would make sense to me that you dont need two passwords10:51
knometorax, possibly, but what about paranoid people? :P10:56
toraxparanoid people use full disk encryption =)10:57
knomeheh10:58
Sysiencryption isn't good for SSD :/10:58
toraxno trim?10:58
Sysino compression, not sure about trim10:59
toraxcompression?11:00
Sysiit speeds up disc actions11:00
toraxIs it something SSD spesific ? somehow I've missed that11:01
Sysihttp://anthonyvance.com/blog/security/ssd_encryption/11:02
toraxhmm, I should do some tests also11:06
SysiI know my SSD:s aren't very good, but fast enough to not upgrade them yet11:07
xubuntu901hi14:41
xubuntu901Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ve.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_main_i18n_Translation-en14:42
xubuntu901I have this problem in xubuntu 13.04, I can not go to synaptic, or software to change servers. that I can do. please help am novice user custom14:44
xubuntu901not a lot of English translators helped me I can do to fix that is wrong14:46
bgardnerxubuntu901: I'm sorry, what exactly is the problem you are having?14:46
bazhangxubuntu901, you'll need to purge the contents of that folder and then apt-get update and apt-get upgrade14:47
xubuntu901I can not update the system14:47
bazhangxubuntu901, use thunar if thats easier for you14:47
xubuntu901sudo] password for jerson:  Leyendo lista de paquetes... ¡Error! E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ve.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_main_i18n_Translation-en14:48
bazhanggksudo thunar xubuntu90114:48
bazhangubottu lag14:48
ubottuYou have lag, I don't have lag14:48
bazhang:/14:48
xubuntu901si uso  thunar14:49
bazhangxubuntu901, did you understand what you need to do14:52
xubuntu901if you can help me thank and seen these commands: sudo rm-fR / var / lib / apt / lists / * sudo apt-get update   but not sure if they are well written for use in xubuntu14:53
bazhangwhy the spaces14:53
bazhangthats a recipe for disaster14:54
xubuntu901do not quite understand what you tell me to do, what of the spaces is because it is copied and pasted, I know I speak for thunar. I do with Tunar?14:55
bazhangxubuntu901, using thunar you are less prone to mistakes.    gksudo thunar /var/etc/etc/etc/---->remove all these files<-----   , close thunar14:56
bazhangxubuntu901, after that, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade and it should be fixed14:57
xubuntu901ok I enter the path and delete everything?14:57
bazhangin that folder, yes14:58
bazhanggot it?14:59
xubuntu901if I'm deleting everything in the folder15:01
bazhangyep15:03
bazhangthen close thunar15:03
bazhangfinished?15:04
xubuntu901I'm doing the update at the end of comment. for now thanks for your collaboration.15:06
bazhangnp15:07
bazhangthen apt-get upgrade15:07
bazhanget voila! it's fixed?15:07
bazhangthats a fairly nasty bug, that is a bit hard to figure a way out of15:08
bazhangyou need to update, but those corrupt index files dont allow it, etc etc15:08
xubuntu901is running this command sudo apt-get update. when finished I put that15:10
bazhangyes, then sudo apt-get upgrade15:10
bazhangclaro?15:11
xubuntu901esta comprobando actualizaciones  listo voy con upgrade15:12
bazhangactualizaciones = download?15:13
xubuntu901This packets downloaded .. are-P4M900-M7 FE: ~ $ sudo apt-get upgrade Reading package lists ... done Building dependency tree Reading state information ... done The following packages will be upgraded:    libegl1-mesa-mesa-drivers libegl1 libgbm1 libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx    libglapi libgles2-table-table-table libopenvg1 libosmesa6 libxatracker1 10 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 515:13
bazhangthat sounds good then15:14
xubuntu901ready and finished. what else would have to do,15:15
bazhangthats it15:16
xubuntu901thank you very much for your Ayuga friend, novel and I'm missing a world of learning15:18
bazhangwelcome15:19
bazhangayuga meaning help, yeah?15:19
xubuntu901wrong by mistake wrote Ayuga for help lol15:21
bazhang:)15:21
TIM___if you dont mind me asking, what terminal program do you guys use?15:22
xubuntu901up another try thanks for your time.15:22
bgardnerTIM___: xfce4-terminal15:51
TIM___cool cool15:52
brainwashthe default one :)15:53
brainwashhowever, why is xfce4-terminal not able to recognize the key modifier when pressing ctrl+home or alt+home?15:55
contrapunctusGuys, why are default applications in Thunar decided by file type instead of file extension? Such a PITA for plain-text based file formats...anything I can do to change this behavior?16:06
TheSheepcontrapunctus: no, but you can define new file types, and they can be recognized by extension or by content16:22
contrapunctusTheSheep - How so? o.o16:23
TheSheepcontrapunctus: with magic  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man4/magic.4.html16:26
contrapunctusTheSheep - okay, sudo apt-get install magic, ran magic...'omfg wtf?'16:32
contrapunctusTheSheep - i no unnastanz o.o'16:33
SonikkuAmericacontrapunctus: plz2not antagonism, kthx16:34
contrapunctusSorry? o.o16:35
TheSheepcontrapunctus: the link that I gave you describes the format and location of the files that describe file types16:51
contrapunctusIt's cryptic at best :(16:53
DistrotI think I messed up my video drivers in Xubuntu 13.04...17:04
DistrotTried following the directions here: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html17:04
DistrotBut half the commands weren't working and it ended up doing some pretty wonky things.17:05
DistrotI did all this because I am trying to get XBMC to wake up from suspend, but it seems to have issues due to the video drivers.17:06
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slash0megai am using a flashdrive as a hardrive as my real harddrive crashed, and i am tired of the limitations it is presenting using the live mode thing. can i ask how quickly installing xubuntu to a flash drive will kill it?21:10
nagevgpg has stopped asking me for a password when i use --decrypt-files.  How can I make it forget my password?21:11
bgardnernagev: Not sure off the top of my head, let me check the docs21:13
nagevslash0mega: it depends on the quality of the flash drive and how much you'll be writing to it.  You may be better off using one flash drive for / and a separate flash drive for /home and /tmp and then keep a backup of that if its important.21:13
nagevbgardner: thanks21:14
slash0megaits a sandisk.... i guess ill just have to live with the limitations for now....21:18
bekksslash0mega: Or just nuke everything on it and use it as a regular external drive.21:19
slash0megathats what i was going to do, i use it purly for xubuntu, and i bought it for xubuntu, because i could not get a new hd at the time. but i do not want to install normal xubuntu if it will distroy the drive in half a year.21:20
nagevslash0mega: what limitations are you finding in live usb mode?21:22
slash0megacant set time, anoying nag screen, no costom user, some costomization options dont stay like editing the bars, and i think some apps have issues with it.21:24
bgardnernagev: Still looking for your question.21:24
slash0megaok, i think nag screen is a poor way to discribe it.21:25
nagevslash0mega: if you mean the "try / install xubuntu" dialog you can get rid of that by uninstalling ubiquity, although after that you want be able to use the live usb as a source to install xubuntu from.21:27
nagevbgardner: thanks!  i tried googling "force gpg to forget password" and similar but had no success!21:28
bgardnernagev: Can I assume you are using gpg-agent?21:28
slash0megaoh? that is awsome! the install thing wont be a problem :D21:28
nagevi don't know whether i am or not.  i didn't specifically install it.  when it used to prompt for password it appeared as a gui dialog even though i was using the terminal.21:28
slash0megawill that stop the "xubuntu is allready a user" thing that happens during boot too?21:29
nagevslash0mega: it will prevent the "try / install" dialog from appearing.  I'm not sure if it will prevent the other message, i've never seen that one before.21:30
slash0megathat one happens before the os even boots fully, i just assumed it was setting up a user for a live session seeing as cd's can not record changes, i also assumed that is why i could not delete the xubuntu user21:31
nagevbgardner: "The program 'gpg-agent' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing sudo apt-get install gnupg-agent" so i guess im not using the agent21:32
bgardnernagev: Okay, and sorry for the dumb question but are you sure your gpg key still has a passphrase on it?21:33
nagevbgardner: that's ok, not a dumb question!  but yes, i'm sure there is a password to the  gpg key.21:34
bgardnernagev: Okay, got it - the agent is the gnome-keyring-daemon21:35
bgardnernagev: One moment while I dig deeper.21:35
nagevslash0mega: if you created the live usb with "Startup Disk Creator" there is an option to reserve part of the flash drive for persistence, so it will save all your changes21:35
bgardnernagev: Actually, before I spend too much time, can you do 'ps aux | grep keyring' and make sure you get gnome-keyring-daemon as a result?21:36
nagevbgardner: /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login21:36
slash0megayes, the persistance is why i think the "xubuntu is allready a use" even happens,  what i assumed is that the cd is preparing the live session, and needs a user to log into, normaly that user would not exist, but it is there because of the persistance21:37
bgardnernagev: Okay, perfect, same as mine.  Be right back.21:37
nagevslash0mega: i don't think so, i created a 13.04 xubuntu live usb with 2GB persistence area and never ran in to that problem.  Although I didn't explicitly create any users on it.  Did you create a user called xubuntu?  If you did maybe that's the source of the problem.21:39
slash0megai dont think it was a issue, i just saw it when i press a arrow key during boot. it brings dos like screen, and shows a bunch of stuff that it is doing.21:40
slash0megasomthing like "cannot creat user: xubuntu allready exists.21:41
slash0megais one of those things21:41
bgardnernagev: Remove (or rename) ~/.gnome2/keyrings/login.keyring to force Ubuntu to forget how to unlock your keyring.  That will prevent Seahorse from auto-entering your password.21:41
bgardnernagev: This also affects SSH or other applications that use the GNOME keyring, however.21:41
slash0megaoh ya, generating locals is another anoyince, boot spends a lot of time doing that21:42
nagevbgardner: i don't have any files in ~/.gnome2 although the directory itself is there.  also, i don't have seahorse installed.21:43
bgardnernagev: You have a running gnome-keyring-daemon, but no keyring directory under .gnome2?  O.o21:44
nagevbgardner: yes, it appears so!21:44
nagevbgardner: this is a pretty standard install, i only installed it a few days ago, and haven't done any significant tweaking.21:45
bgardnernagev: Does 'find ~ -name login.keyring' net you anything?21:46
nagevwas just trying that! with *keyring*21:46
nagevbgardner: ./.local/share/keyrings/login.keyring21:46
bgardnernagev: Okay, sure.  Try moving that and then doing a gpg --decrypt call.21:47
nagevbgardner: moved file to desktop ... nope, still not prompting!21:50
bgardnernagev: Might be in memory, can you log out/log in and try it again?21:50
nagevsure brb21:50
nagevshould i put the file back first? or leave it on desktop?21:51
nagevbefore i logout21:51
bgardnernagev: Leave on desktop, please21:51
nagevok21:51
nagevbgardner: right, logged in. a new login.keyring has been generated in ~/.local/share/keyrings - will try decrypting now21:54
nagevbgardner: yup its prompting again now. thanks.21:55
bgardnernagev: Super, glad to hear it!21:55
slash0megaanyhow, uninstalling ubiquity, will restart the computer when that is done21:56
nagevbgardner: yeh, thanks a lot for your help.  tbh i suspected a logout may work.  i don't want to log out every time to clear the cached password.  i will try to find out how to not let it cache the password...or how to force it to forget.21:57
nagevslash0mega: cool, sorry i don't know what to do about the locales problem, i haven't experienced that before either.21:58
calmpitbullproblem: i have two bluetooth signs on panel?? and how to stop the bluetooth to start up on boot21:58
nagevcalmpitbull: "Session and Startup" in settings manager, you can deselect them there21:58
catsHello! :)21:59
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calmpitbullthx21:59
slash0megahave you ever pressed a arrow key durring the blue xubuntu loadins screen? that is where i see this stuff. if so, it might be a problem with the way my system is installed :(22:00
Guest53801I ran an update today in xUbuntu, then turned if off. And when I came home now and started the machine again, it's like the theme and icons are messed up or something :(22:00
Guest53801Looks like some kind of "basic" theme, and some icons are not even showing22:00
nagevslash0mega: no, i will try it now on my second laptop with a live usb key.  any specific direction arrow key?22:01
slash0megai always press down22:01
Guest53801Anyone have experiences this?22:01
slash0megai think up and down work though22:01
calmpitbullGuest53801: try to restart xfce if that is even possible..22:02
slash0megaand dont plug in any usb stuff or use any function keys like brightness while text screen is up, as it will interupt dispaly information about that as well22:03
slash0megadosent brake anything, just anoying22:03
nagevslash0mega: ok, i see it now, "the user xubuntu already exists"22:03
Guest53801calmpitbull: I can't seem to find which service to restart, and I have already tried restarting the machine22:04
Guest53801It seems also that it's not accepting any of my key bindings, nor is it saving my screen settings when I restart :S22:05
slash0megaas i said, i beleve it just to be standard for the proper functaning of a live cd without persistant, just anoying if you want to get rid of that user because it keeps putting it back in22:05
slash0megadid you get the generating locals thing?22:05
calmpitbullGuest53801: http://askubuntu.com/questions/224006/resetting-xfce-panels-to-default-settings22:05
calmpitbulltry this22:06
nagevslash0mega: i also got a few other error messages.  This is a standard 13.04 live usb (with persistence) I am using.   I saw something about locales but not for very long.22:06
slash0megamine takes forever on the locals, other than just one, the _us one22:06
nagevslash0mega: i am rebooting to try again as i was distracted for part of the time before...22:07
Guest53801calmpitbull: alright, hold on22:07
slash0megai am going to be reinstalling it soon, as my xubuntu is outdated, i can see if it acts any defently after that.22:07
slash0megaoh ya, i better start installing the disk image.22:07
slash0megadownloading, not installing....22:08
nagevslash0mega: i get a few: "stdin: not a typewriter" messages.  I got "generating locales" but i only have one, en_US.utf8, it said "up to date" and was pretty quick22:09
slash0megathat is the local i get that says up to date. but i get a ton of others that DO have to generate22:09
slash0megai think i looked up not a typewriter one before, forgot what it means22:09
xubuntu706calmpitbull: Didn't help with reseting the xfce panel :(22:11
xubuntu706actually made it a bit worse lo22:11
xubuntu706lol*22:11
calmpitbullrofl22:11
calmpitbullcan u show me your screen22:12
slash0megadid you say that you got multiple messages of not a typewriter?22:13
xubuntu706calmpitbull: Yeah just a sec22:13
nagevslash0mega: yes around 3 or 4.  They were the first messages.  I don't think it's anything to worry about.22:13
slash0megai think i only got one. strange22:14
slash0megaubiquity is almost done installing, after taht ill reboot and report if anything changes22:15
slash0megauninstalled. ill brb22:16
xubuntu706calmpitbull: pm22:17
slash0megarebooted twice, as i missed the unbuntu user message the first time, the secone boot had all the locals up to date, so i wonder if ubuiuitiy had somthing to do with that. but still tries to add the xubuntu user...22:24
calmpitbullafk22:25
nagevslash0mega: ok. so at least part of the problem is solved!  i don't know what you can do about the xubuntu user message.22:26
slash0megai wonder why the clock and constomizations dont stick....22:27
slash0megawhen i say costomizations, i mean changing the amout of scrolling desktop things. and button locations on the window bars, like maximize and close22:28
nagevslash0mega: did you say you are using persistence space?22:28
slash0megaa dedecated partition22:28
slash0megaso yes.22:29
nagevslash0mega: how did you create the live usb, what did you use?22:29
slash0megalilu22:30
slash0megahad to set up the casper partition maualy though22:31
nagevlilu?22:32
slash0megalili, sorry22:32
slash0megahttp://www.linuxliveusb.com/22:32
nagevslash0mega: it should save the settings if you create it with [x]ubuntu startup disk creator22:33
slash0megalike the clock?22:33
nagevslash0mega: http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers_years/2012_1/linux-live-cd-persistence-ubuntu-creator.jpg22:33
slash0megaill try it one more tie with lili when i get the updated image downloaded, if the changes do not stick ill try that22:33
nagevslash0mega: see the slider at the bottom of the jpg image, that's what i mean.22:34
slash0megawell, data is persistant22:34
slash0megai got java and a lot of things installed22:34
slash0megacan you change the number of workspaces on your live usb?22:34
slash0megaits just some os level stuff that is having issues22:35
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nagevslash0mega: let me try.  i will adjust the clock too, see if it sticks.22:35
slash0megai can copy select folders from my casper partition to back up only those programs right? its pretty full so i would like to start over on install programs.22:38
calmpitbullxubuntu706: did u restart22:41
nagevslash0mega: i changed the timezone and that stayed after reboot.  I changed the number of workspaces to 5, but on reboot it reverted back to 2.22:47
slash0megawell, that is one better than mine.22:47
slash0megaill try correcting my timezone on the reinstall, also, i wonder if installing compiz will help wiht the workspace thing. pure speculation though22:48
slash0megai have no idea how compiz works compaired to the default invirmoent22:49
Slash0megaDesktoswitch computers to start the update.22:51
slash0megabecause i have to shut this computer down22:51
calmpitbullis there xubuntu offtopic channel23:12
holstein!ot | calmpitbull23:12
ubottucalmpitbull: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!23:12
calmpitbullnice23:13

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