[00:44] How do I disable single user mode to prevent someone from booting into single user mode? In Ubuntu, it was in /etc/default/grub, but in Xubuntu, it's a binary file. [00:45] it shouldn't be [00:45] /etc/default/grub is a config file, just like in ubuntu [00:46] pleia2, I tried using sudo vi /etc/default/grub [00:46] let me try again [00:47] ok...my vi editor is screwing [00:47] cat display text but vi doesnt work...I'll reinstall vi [00:47] thanks! [00:50] JimmyNeutron: sure, good luck :) [02:39] Hi. I'm having issues with Xubuntu installers for 12.04 LTS and 13.04. Sometimes they will install, sometimes they won't. In general, if it does install, says "low disk space" during the install and the OS is rather unstable with Firefox and other apps crashing, and if it doesn't install, it crashes and says there's a disk read error and cannot give me a specific reason. Any ideas? [02:40] so this is only on those two things? [02:40] you've tested something else and it works properly? [02:41] I have tested Ubuntu 13.04 and it also has an installation crash. [02:41] Maybe I should make a tiny chart of what I have installed and what has worked(?) [02:42] I guess I'm trying to understand what you've done to eliminate a problem with your target system. [02:43] Last week: XBMCbuntu (unstable); Xubuntu 12.04 LTS (unstable); Ubuntu 13.04 (stable); Xubuntu 13.04 (unstable); Xubuntu 12.04 (unstable) [02:43] Those were installs that worked, however the Xubuntu installs complained about low disk space. [02:43] And the unstable/stable describes the OS and the amount of crashing that occurred from apps [02:44] so Ubuntu 13.04 is the only thing that was stable out of all of that? [02:44] Yes, basically. [02:45] is this repeatable? [02:45] No, because I cannot install it anymore. [02:45] ? [02:45] It's saying ubiquity has crashed and states that it is a bug. [02:46] Do you suppose you have a system-related issue that needs to be investigate? [02:46] I ran hardware tests for HDD, CPU and memory to see if there was an issue there, and the CPU and HDD came out without errors. [02:46] However, I localized the issue with the memory to one particular stick of two. [02:47] x/quit [02:47] So I removed the stick and tested again and the sole remaining stick of memory had no errors after several tests. [02:47] So, I can say with "relative" confidence that the issues are not the CPU, HDD, or memory... [02:48] so you had a problem with memory during your testing? [02:48] or you eliminated this problem after the testing? [02:48] there is no website version in other languages, is there? does the website software allow localisation? [02:48] I eliminated a problem with memory during my testing. [02:48] gry: What language do you need? [02:49] it's a question in principle (my English is okay, but I'd be happy to translate if that's possible) [02:49] so... let's just talk about current stuff you can test... in your system right now, you have resolved the memory issue by removing a problem stick and then re-ran the memory test and it passed, yes? And by memory test, are you referring to something like MemTest? [02:50] I have been trying to eliminate an issue with the pen-drive, as I have used a few different pen-drive installers (Universal, LiLi) as well as a few different pen-drives and a few different computers to make the bootable pen-drives. [02:50] why are you using a pen drive to install? [02:50] gry: Oh, I see. I believe you can type in Xubuntu and a language and a version will come up (e.g. Xubuntu french). [02:51] My laptop doesn't have a DVD drive. Should I be using DVDs instead? [02:51] You don't have to use optical media but I have a number of problems with USB installers. [02:52] hang on [02:52] brb. [02:52] Really? Would you personally recommend a DVD? [02:52] Ok [02:54] actually [02:54] on account of crappy USB drives that seem to really jack-up my installations, I've been using the ISO directly in grub and booting it with the toram parameter [02:54] This was my first experience with Xubuntu, and I must say; it hasn't been pleasant... lol. [02:55] ... You can do that? lol [02:55] you look optimistic enough to keep going :-p [02:55] in fact you can and I've installed all of the systems I have that way [02:55] Well, it is a very nice OS. I just wish it worked. lol [02:56] what is the problem again? [02:56] the best practice I've had is to use separate partition from where I plan to install the OS and then park the ISO there... [02:56] Haven't been able to install successfully and stably. [02:56] no dvd drive at your computer? [02:56] Well, I have computers around that have some. [02:56] then there are some instructions on booting the ISO using grub: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot [02:57] I just used the pendrive since I have several projects going on and replacing the OS on the pendrive is easier than burning a new disc. [02:57] this requires Grub2... but if you have one of the OSs you mentioned above installed, Grub2 is there to be used. [02:57] Would you recommend this method over DVD installs? [02:57] I don't use DVD installs anymore because they are slower [02:58] To install or make? [02:58] I haven't seen any problems with the method as long as you are sure to use the toram parameter [02:58] you also need enough RAM to load the ISO into memory [02:58] how much RAM do you have left in the system? [02:59] Well, I had 2GB in this machine, but I had to remove one stick due to memtest86 errors, so I only have 1GB now. [02:59] mmmm... so I don't know what ubiquity requires [02:59] to the memtest86* [02:59] but that sounds like you're cutting it close on running out of memory. [02:59] Yeah... [03:00] I might just go ahead and do the DVD install then. [03:00] what brand pen drives are you using? [03:00] I'm using SanDisk. [03:00] Different kinds though. [03:01] I see [03:01] A "Cruzer" and a "Cruzer Edge" [03:01] I guess SanDisk thought it was a good name... lol. [03:02] so my experience with Ubuntu on a stick has always been a relatively poor installation process that may or may not work accompanied by the inability to use the bootable Linux on the stick again because of random errors or other crap. [03:02] Hmm, I see. I didn't realize that was a prevalent problem. [03:02] I just chucked the idea after having that happen multiple times... I attributed the problems to the brand of sticks I had available to me: Kingston [03:02] Especially since Canonical seems to advocate the use of pendrives, lol. [03:02] I've since replaced all the drives with Lexars but I haven't re-tested. [03:03] Right. What you're saying makes some sense I suppose. [03:03] The thing that gets me is that the stick worked on two other machines but this one. [03:04] But, I suppose I should try a DVD install first and then that will rule out the stick being the issue. [03:04] I can only say what I've seen from my personal experience... [03:04] I don't think, by any stretch, we have anything conclusive here from our discussion [03:04] :) [03:04] Right, no, I get what you're saying and I see the logic. [03:05] I do, however, reinstall my systems with some flavor of buntu all the time [03:05] Have you tried a DVD install successfully though? Not to drag this out, lol. [03:05] Recurrent success, I guess I should ask. [03:06] I never had failed CD installs unless I used the crappiest media of all existence [03:06] (I own some of this) [03:06] I have some CD media I bought on discount at Circuit City when they closed. It's branded Nexius or something like that... worst media ever [03:06] In contrast, the TDK media that I buy at work has never given me any problems. [03:07] the only DVD install I've done has been the Kubuntu flavor and only because it now requires a DVD for physical writing. [03:08] Lol... "Nexius" [03:08] Hm, ok. That gives me a bit more confidence then. [03:09] Well, I'm going to stick around. I'll holler if it works or not, if you're going to be around that is. [03:09] Downloading a new Xubuntu 13.04 on the machine with the DVD burner. [03:09] I will not be around in active form... I'm about to go to sleep because my toddler will wake me up in the middle of the night. [03:10] Oh ok. Well, good night then. I appreciate your assistance! [03:11] np [04:10] Anybody around? [04:14] Just got a Xubuntu 13.04 install error:: E:Encoutnered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_universe_i18n_Translation-en, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. [04:17] run the ISO through a torrent app to force check, verify the data and fix any found corruption [04:20] Doing that now, thanks. [04:21] Did that. Any other ideas though? [04:30] reboot n try again [04:31] But you think it's only a corruption issue? [04:31] could have been a random hiccup [04:32] could try running a SMART check on the hard drive [04:33] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Smartmontools [04:33] that can be installed while booted into the install cd [04:34] if it happens again you can check back in here for further help [04:34] Ok, thanks. I appreciate it. [04:40] Crashed again. Different DVD this time. [04:41] Won't even close the crash dialog to give me an error. [04:42] Just restarted. Going to try to go into Live Session and run the SMART check. [04:49] Trying the first DVD again for the heck of it. [04:50] Maybe it'll reproduce an error. [04:50] The background didn't even appear on the second DVD, so it seems like it's in worse shape or something. [04:56] xbuntu 12.04 recognizes and can "ennumerate" my two usb "3.0/2.0" but it cannot do that with my 8 usb "2.0/1.0" slots on my gigabyte ud5 board. I do not understand, i thought ubuntu would be up to day with technology [04:58] ur0pl: did you see my other post? in the other channel? [04:58] !patience [04:58] Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/ [05:01] okay [05:49] hi [05:49] quick question [05:49] about wireless drivers. [05:50] where does the driver go in the etc dir? [05:51] anybody here? [08:00] hi. just installed xubuntu 12.04. chose to encrypt home directory. didn't get to generate the passphrase through Notifications (clicked to see the next notification and then i couldn't go back, wtf..??). What was the terminal command for generating the passphrase AND/OR how do you get to see old notifications again? thanks! [10:40] about the question about /home encryption, doesnt that open with user password, so theres no need for another passphrase [10:50] I think so, never actualy tried [10:51] It would make sense to me that you dont need two passwords [10:56] torax, possibly, but what about paranoid people? :P [10:57] paranoid people use full disk encryption =) [10:58] heh [10:58] encryption isn't good for SSD :/ [10:58] no trim? [10:59] no compression, not sure about trim [11:00] compression? [11:00] it speeds up disc actions [11:01] Is it something SSD spesific ? somehow I've missed that [11:02] http://anthonyvance.com/blog/security/ssd_encryption/ [11:06] hmm, I should do some tests also [11:07] I know my SSD:s aren't very good, but fast enough to not upgrade them yet [14:41] hi [14:42] Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ve.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_main_i18n_Translation-en [14:44] I have this problem in xubuntu 13.04, I can not go to synaptic, or software to change servers. that I can do. please help am novice user custom [14:46] not a lot of English translators helped me I can do to fix that is wrong [14:46] xubuntu901: I'm sorry, what exactly is the problem you are having? [14:47] xubuntu901, you'll need to purge the contents of that folder and then apt-get update and apt-get upgrade [14:47] I can not update the system [14:47] xubuntu901, use thunar if thats easier for you [14:48] sudo] password for jerson: Leyendo lista de paquetes... ¡Error! E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ve.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_main_i18n_Translation-en [14:48] gksudo thunar xubuntu901 [14:48] ubottu lag [14:48] You have lag, I don't have lag [14:48] :/ [14:49] si uso thunar [14:52] xubuntu901, did you understand what you need to do [14:53] if you can help me thank and seen these commands: sudo rm-fR / var / lib / apt / lists / * sudo apt-get update but not sure if they are well written for use in xubuntu [14:53] why the spaces [14:54] thats a recipe for disaster [14:55] do not quite understand what you tell me to do, what of the spaces is because it is copied and pasted, I know I speak for thunar. I do with Tunar? [14:56] xubuntu901, using thunar you are less prone to mistakes. gksudo thunar /var/etc/etc/etc/---->remove all these files<----- , close thunar [14:57] xubuntu901, after that, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade and it should be fixed [14:57] ok I enter the path and delete everything? [14:58] in that folder, yes [14:59] got it? [15:01] if I'm deleting everything in the folder [15:03] yep [15:03] then close thunar [15:04] finished? [15:06] I'm doing the update at the end of comment. for now thanks for your collaboration. [15:07] np [15:07] then apt-get upgrade [15:07] et voila! it's fixed? [15:08] thats a fairly nasty bug, that is a bit hard to figure a way out of [15:08] you need to update, but those corrupt index files dont allow it, etc etc [15:10] is running this command sudo apt-get update. when finished I put that [15:10] yes, then sudo apt-get upgrade [15:11] claro? [15:12] esta comprobando actualizaciones listo voy con upgrade [15:13] actualizaciones = download? [15:13] This packets downloaded .. are-P4M900-M7 FE: ~ $ sudo apt-get upgrade Reading package lists ... done Building dependency tree Reading state information ... done The following packages will be upgraded: libegl1-mesa-mesa-drivers libegl1 libgbm1 libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi libgles2-table-table-table libopenvg1 libosmesa6 libxatracker1 10 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Need to get 5 [15:14] that sounds good then [15:15] ready and finished. what else would have to do, [15:16] thats it [15:18] thank you very much for your Ayuga friend, novel and I'm missing a world of learning [15:19] welcome [15:19] ayuga meaning help, yeah? [15:21] wrong by mistake wrote Ayuga for help lol [15:21] :) [15:22] if you dont mind me asking, what terminal program do you guys use? [15:22] up another try thanks for your time. [15:51] TIM___: xfce4-terminal [15:52] cool cool [15:53] the default one :) [15:55] however, why is xfce4-terminal not able to recognize the key modifier when pressing ctrl+home or alt+home? [16:06] Guys, why are default applications in Thunar decided by file type instead of file extension? Such a PITA for plain-text based file formats...anything I can do to change this behavior? [16:22] contrapunctus: no, but you can define new file types, and they can be recognized by extension or by content [16:23] TheSheep - How so? o.o [16:26] contrapunctus: with magic http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man4/magic.4.html [16:32] TheSheep - okay, sudo apt-get install magic, ran magic...'omfg wtf?' [16:33] TheSheep - i no unnastanz o.o' [16:34] contrapunctus: plz2not antagonism, kthx [16:35] Sorry? o.o [16:51] contrapunctus: the link that I gave you describes the format and location of the files that describe file types [16:53] It's cryptic at best :( [17:04] I think I messed up my video drivers in Xubuntu 13.04... [17:04] Tried following the directions here: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html [17:05] But half the commands weren't working and it ended up doing some pretty wonky things. [17:06] I did all this because I am trying to get XBMC to wake up from suspend, but it seems to have issues due to the video drivers. === xubuntu is now known as Guest26241 === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [21:10] i am using a flashdrive as a hardrive as my real harddrive crashed, and i am tired of the limitations it is presenting using the live mode thing. can i ask how quickly installing xubuntu to a flash drive will kill it? [21:11] gpg has stopped asking me for a password when i use --decrypt-files. How can I make it forget my password? [21:13] nagev: Not sure off the top of my head, let me check the docs [21:13] slash0mega: it depends on the quality of the flash drive and how much you'll be writing to it. You may be better off using one flash drive for / and a separate flash drive for /home and /tmp and then keep a backup of that if its important. [21:14] bgardner: thanks [21:18] its a sandisk.... i guess ill just have to live with the limitations for now.... [21:19] slash0mega: Or just nuke everything on it and use it as a regular external drive. [21:20] thats what i was going to do, i use it purly for xubuntu, and i bought it for xubuntu, because i could not get a new hd at the time. but i do not want to install normal xubuntu if it will distroy the drive in half a year. [21:22] slash0mega: what limitations are you finding in live usb mode? [21:24] cant set time, anoying nag screen, no costom user, some costomization options dont stay like editing the bars, and i think some apps have issues with it. [21:24] nagev: Still looking for your question. [21:25] ok, i think nag screen is a poor way to discribe it. [21:27] slash0mega: if you mean the "try / install xubuntu" dialog you can get rid of that by uninstalling ubiquity, although after that you want be able to use the live usb as a source to install xubuntu from. [21:28] bgardner: thanks! i tried googling "force gpg to forget password" and similar but had no success! [21:28] nagev: Can I assume you are using gpg-agent? [21:28] oh? that is awsome! the install thing wont be a problem :D [21:28] i don't know whether i am or not. i didn't specifically install it. when it used to prompt for password it appeared as a gui dialog even though i was using the terminal. [21:29] will that stop the "xubuntu is allready a user" thing that happens during boot too? [21:30] slash0mega: it will prevent the "try / install" dialog from appearing. I'm not sure if it will prevent the other message, i've never seen that one before. [21:31] that one happens before the os even boots fully, i just assumed it was setting up a user for a live session seeing as cd's can not record changes, i also assumed that is why i could not delete the xubuntu user [21:32] bgardner: "The program 'gpg-agent' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing sudo apt-get install gnupg-agent" so i guess im not using the agent [21:33] nagev: Okay, and sorry for the dumb question but are you sure your gpg key still has a passphrase on it? [21:34] bgardner: that's ok, not a dumb question! but yes, i'm sure there is a password to the gpg key. [21:35] nagev: Okay, got it - the agent is the gnome-keyring-daemon [21:35] nagev: One moment while I dig deeper. [21:35] slash0mega: if you created the live usb with "Startup Disk Creator" there is an option to reserve part of the flash drive for persistence, so it will save all your changes [21:36] nagev: Actually, before I spend too much time, can you do 'ps aux | grep keyring' and make sure you get gnome-keyring-daemon as a result? [21:36] bgardner: /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login [21:37] yes, the persistance is why i think the "xubuntu is allready a use" even happens, what i assumed is that the cd is preparing the live session, and needs a user to log into, normaly that user would not exist, but it is there because of the persistance [21:37] nagev: Okay, perfect, same as mine. Be right back. [21:39] slash0mega: i don't think so, i created a 13.04 xubuntu live usb with 2GB persistence area and never ran in to that problem. Although I didn't explicitly create any users on it. Did you create a user called xubuntu? If you did maybe that's the source of the problem. [21:40] i dont think it was a issue, i just saw it when i press a arrow key during boot. it brings dos like screen, and shows a bunch of stuff that it is doing. [21:41] somthing like "cannot creat user: xubuntu allready exists. [21:41] is one of those things [21:41] nagev: Remove (or rename) ~/.gnome2/keyrings/login.keyring to force Ubuntu to forget how to unlock your keyring. That will prevent Seahorse from auto-entering your password. [21:41] nagev: This also affects SSH or other applications that use the GNOME keyring, however. [21:42] oh ya, generating locals is another anoyince, boot spends a lot of time doing that [21:43] bgardner: i don't have any files in ~/.gnome2 although the directory itself is there. also, i don't have seahorse installed. [21:44] nagev: You have a running gnome-keyring-daemon, but no keyring directory under .gnome2? O.o [21:44] bgardner: yes, it appears so! [21:45] bgardner: this is a pretty standard install, i only installed it a few days ago, and haven't done any significant tweaking. [21:46] nagev: Does 'find ~ -name login.keyring' net you anything? [21:46] was just trying that! with *keyring* [21:46] bgardner: ./.local/share/keyrings/login.keyring [21:47] nagev: Okay, sure. Try moving that and then doing a gpg --decrypt call. [21:50] bgardner: moved file to desktop ... nope, still not prompting! [21:50] nagev: Might be in memory, can you log out/log in and try it again? [21:50] sure brb [21:51] should i put the file back first? or leave it on desktop? [21:51] before i logout [21:51] nagev: Leave on desktop, please [21:51] ok [21:54] bgardner: right, logged in. a new login.keyring has been generated in ~/.local/share/keyrings - will try decrypting now [21:55] bgardner: yup its prompting again now. thanks. [21:55] nagev: Super, glad to hear it! [21:56] anyhow, uninstalling ubiquity, will restart the computer when that is done [21:57] bgardner: yeh, thanks a lot for your help. tbh i suspected a logout may work. i don't want to log out every time to clear the cached password. i will try to find out how to not let it cache the password...or how to force it to forget. [21:58] slash0mega: cool, sorry i don't know what to do about the locales problem, i haven't experienced that before either. [21:58] problem: i have two bluetooth signs on panel?? and how to stop the bluetooth to start up on boot [21:58] calmpitbull: "Session and Startup" in settings manager, you can deselect them there [21:59] Hello! :) === cats is now known as Guest53801 [21:59] thx [22:00] have you ever pressed a arrow key durring the blue xubuntu loadins screen? that is where i see this stuff. if so, it might be a problem with the way my system is installed :( [22:00] I ran an update today in xUbuntu, then turned if off. And when I came home now and started the machine again, it's like the theme and icons are messed up or something :( [22:00] Looks like some kind of "basic" theme, and some icons are not even showing [22:01] slash0mega: no, i will try it now on my second laptop with a live usb key. any specific direction arrow key? [22:01] i always press down [22:01] Anyone have experiences this? [22:01] i think up and down work though [22:02] Guest53801: try to restart xfce if that is even possible.. [22:03] and dont plug in any usb stuff or use any function keys like brightness while text screen is up, as it will interupt dispaly information about that as well [22:03] dosent brake anything, just anoying [22:03] slash0mega: ok, i see it now, "the user xubuntu already exists" [22:04] calmpitbull: I can't seem to find which service to restart, and I have already tried restarting the machine [22:05] It seems also that it's not accepting any of my key bindings, nor is it saving my screen settings when I restart :S [22:05] as i said, i beleve it just to be standard for the proper functaning of a live cd without persistant, just anoying if you want to get rid of that user because it keeps putting it back in [22:05] did you get the generating locals thing? [22:05] Guest53801: http://askubuntu.com/questions/224006/resetting-xfce-panels-to-default-settings [22:06] try this [22:06] slash0mega: i also got a few other error messages. This is a standard 13.04 live usb (with persistence) I am using. I saw something about locales but not for very long. [22:06] mine takes forever on the locals, other than just one, the _us one [22:07] slash0mega: i am rebooting to try again as i was distracted for part of the time before... [22:07] calmpitbull: alright, hold on [22:07] i am going to be reinstalling it soon, as my xubuntu is outdated, i can see if it acts any defently after that. [22:07] oh ya, i better start installing the disk image. [22:08] downloading, not installing.... [22:09] slash0mega: i get a few: "stdin: not a typewriter" messages. I got "generating locales" but i only have one, en_US.utf8, it said "up to date" and was pretty quick [22:09] that is the local i get that says up to date. but i get a ton of others that DO have to generate [22:09] i think i looked up not a typewriter one before, forgot what it means [22:11] calmpitbull: Didn't help with reseting the xfce panel :( [22:11] actually made it a bit worse lo [22:11] lol* [22:11] rofl [22:12] can u show me your screen [22:13] did you say that you got multiple messages of not a typewriter? [22:13] calmpitbull: Yeah just a sec [22:13] slash0mega: yes around 3 or 4. They were the first messages. I don't think it's anything to worry about. [22:14] i think i only got one. strange [22:15] ubiquity is almost done installing, after taht ill reboot and report if anything changes [22:16] uninstalled. ill brb [22:17] calmpitbull: pm [22:24] rebooted twice, as i missed the unbuntu user message the first time, the secone boot had all the locals up to date, so i wonder if ubuiuitiy had somthing to do with that. but still tries to add the xubuntu user... [22:25] afk [22:26] slash0mega: ok. so at least part of the problem is solved! i don't know what you can do about the xubuntu user message. [22:27] i wonder why the clock and constomizations dont stick.... [22:28] when i say costomizations, i mean changing the amout of scrolling desktop things. and button locations on the window bars, like maximize and close [22:28] slash0mega: did you say you are using persistence space? [22:28] a dedecated partition [22:29] so yes. [22:29] slash0mega: how did you create the live usb, what did you use? [22:30] lilu [22:31] had to set up the casper partition maualy though [22:32] lilu? [22:32] lili, sorry [22:32] http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ [22:33] slash0mega: it should save the settings if you create it with [x]ubuntu startup disk creator [22:33] like the clock? [22:33] slash0mega: http://www.dedoimedo.com/images/computers_years/2012_1/linux-live-cd-persistence-ubuntu-creator.jpg [22:33] ill try it one more tie with lili when i get the updated image downloaded, if the changes do not stick ill try that [22:34] slash0mega: see the slider at the bottom of the jpg image, that's what i mean. [22:34] well, data is persistant [22:34] i got java and a lot of things installed [22:34] can you change the number of workspaces on your live usb? [22:35] its just some os level stuff that is having issues === marco is now known as Guest15853 [22:35] slash0mega: let me try. i will adjust the clock too, see if it sticks. [22:38] i can copy select folders from my casper partition to back up only those programs right? its pretty full so i would like to start over on install programs. [22:41] xubuntu706: did u restart [22:47] slash0mega: i changed the timezone and that stayed after reboot. I changed the number of workspaces to 5, but on reboot it reverted back to 2. [22:47] well, that is one better than mine. [22:48] ill try correcting my timezone on the reinstall, also, i wonder if installing compiz will help wiht the workspace thing. pure speculation though [22:49] i have no idea how compiz works compaired to the default invirmoent [22:51] switch computers to start the update. [22:51] because i have to shut this computer down [23:12] is there xubuntu offtopic channel [23:12] !ot | calmpitbull [23:12] calmpitbull: #xubuntu is the Xubuntu support channel, #xubuntu-devel for discussion regarding development of Xubuntu, and #xubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome! [23:13] nice