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| Guest22544 | hello does anybody knows when we will have gnome 3.8 | 04:58 |
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| Guest22544 | on ubuntu? | 04:59 |
| Guest22544 | yes | 05:07 |
| ikevin | hi | 05:34 |
| ikevin | anyone is here? | 05:34 |
| back_ | ikevin, somebody is here but who :D | 05:46 |
| ikevin | im here | 07:00 |
| ikevin | hahah | 07:00 |
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| tbvr | any one have any screenshots? | 10:28 |
| tbvr | <a href="http://www.google.co.uk/">test</a> | 10:28 |
| ricotz | darkxst, hi | 12:32 |
| ricotz | darkxst, do not simplycopy the saucy package of gtk+3.0 to raring | 12:33 |
| ricotz | darkxst, to be more precise, it would need glib 2.37.x and will break the appmenus | 12:38 |
| MrGrymReaper | You currently provide ubuntu gnome in 12.10 and 13.04 version. I was wondering why there isn't a 12.04 LTS flavour or why one couldn't be done for the next LTS release? | 16:36 |
| SonikkuAmerica | MrGrymReaper: (a) 12.10 is really an unofficial remix; 12.04 never really existed; (b) 14.04 will be the next LTS (as per the LTS release schedule). | 16:37 |
| MrGrymReaper | Is it possible for an LTS remix to be included so that people wishing to use Ubuntu but prefer gnome while having long term support. | 16:40 |
| jbicha | Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 probalby will not be supported for 5 years though | 16:41 |
| SonikkuAmerica | jbicha: ... are we going to follow the Xubuntu plan then (3 years)? | 16:41 |
| SonikkuAmerica | MrGrymReaper: Nope. However, you can install gnome-shell in Ubuntu (with Unity) | 16:41 |
| jbicha | that's not my decision but 3 years is at least closer to reasonable | 16:41 |
| jbicha | nobody here really runs 12.04 LTS and we haven't really bothered backporting fixes there for a while so even 3 years may be too long | 16:42 |
| SonikkuAmerica | jbicha: I'd prefer some sort of LTS... especially since if Canonical gets a lot of backlash for the Mir interface we can be as plausible as the other !flavors if they wind up dropping Ubuntu. | 16:44 |
| MrGrymReaper | The 12.04 release enables the use of Steam amongst other software. Steam has recently come to linux.It currently can only be installed properly under ubuntu 12.04 LTS. | 16:44 |
| jbicha | MrGrymReaper: any newer version of Ubuntu works with steam too | 16:45 |
| SonikkuAmerica | jbicha: Were the Steam PPA issues fixed then? | 16:45 |
| jbicha | uh, no PPA needed http://store.steampowered.com/about/ | 16:47 |
| jbicha | yes, a 14.04 LTS would be nice but "LTS" is a promise of support so we'll have to look at our QA and developer resources to see what kind of committment we can make | 16:49 |
| jbicha | speaking of LTS, it sounds like RHEL 7 will be using GNOME 3.8 | 16:51 |
| jbicha | if that's true that might be good reason to keep 3.8 for 14.04 too | 16:52 |
| SonikkuAmerica | The awkward moment when your flavor's DE pushes out its stable release the day after the RC freeze | 16:53 |
| jbicha | on the other hand, GNOME themselves don't really do LTS releases yet so 3.8 isn't necessarily any more stable than 3.10 would be | 16:53 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Isn't GNOME pushing to be its own OS? | 16:54 |
| jbicha | not exactly, "GNOME OS" wasn't a great naming choice | 16:55 |
| jbicha | they are trying to identify all the pieces of their platform (including low-level components) that are part of a given GNOME release | 16:56 |
| SonikkuAmerica | Maybe "Gnomos?" (GNU Network Object Model OS) | 16:57 |
| jbicha | there's more work being done on all levels to make the integration stronger so that users get a better experience | 16:57 |
| jbicha | and they want to have an easily downloadable image for developers so that they can build and test against GNOME | 16:58 |
| atrus | it's pretty clear that they're getting more and more attached to wayland and systemd... | 16:58 |
| atrus | and it seems like every distro that's moving is moving towards those, except ubuntu :/ | 16:59 |
| jbicha | sure, wayland and systemd offer possibilities for a better user experience than sysvinit or X | 16:59 |
| atrus | and upstart. | 17:00 |
| atrus | is the plan from ubuntu-gnome to use wayland and systemd? | 17:00 |
| SonikkuAmerica | I think so...? I looked @ the mailing list | 17:00 |
| jbicha | Ubuntu 13.04 includes pieces of systemd and my uneducated estimate is that 13.10 includes half of systemd (logind, timedated, localed, & hostnamed) | 17:00 |
| SonikkuAmerica | atrus: We're the only flavor that doesn't depend on lightdm | 17:01 |
| jbicha | the Ubuntu Foundations Team will not support systemd as init to completely replace upstart but we already ship enough of sytsemd to get nearly everything GNOME offers | 17:01 |
| atrus | what's the situation with wayland? | 17:03 |
| SonikkuAmerica | AFAIK we just start GDM, and it runs Wayland... | 17:03 |
| jbicha | wayland is already in the Ubuntu archives but since 3.10 will support X or Wayland we'll probably keep with X until after 14.04 | 17:03 |
| jbicha | that's a guess and not my decision either :) | 17:03 |
| atrus | interesting. thanks :) | 17:05 |
| driff | hi | 17:42 |
| driff | any1 there? | 17:42 |
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| darkxst | jbicha, re alpha1 ok. | 21:55 |
| darkxst | I suppose we need to notify release team that we are opting in? | 21:56 |
| jbicha | darkxst: yup | 22:59 |
| jbicha | I'm happy the new GNOME Classic is working as of today in Saucy, and seb128 uploaded nautilus 3.8 too | 22:59 |
| darkxst | nice ;) | 23:00 |
| jbicha | what do you think of nautilus-classic? | 23:00 |
| jbicha | it's nautilus with desktop icons forced on, see https://bugzilla.gnome.org/695088 | 23:03 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 695088 in Desktop "GNOME Classic forces desktop icons" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 23:03 |
| jbicha | I removed nautilus-classic from RequiredComponents for gnome-shell-extensions and gnome-panel and I'm not so sure I should disable the patch | 23:04 |
| darkxst | I hate desktop icons, however I know lots of people want them for whatever reason | 23:05 |
| jbicha | well like I said on the bug, it's broken that nautilus-classic doesn't allow opting-out of showing desktop icons | 23:07 |
| darkxst | yup, that needs to be fixed | 23:08 |
| darkxst | anyways I'm off for the weekend | 23:10 |
| jbicha | have fun | 23:12 |
| darkxst | will do, likely to be really cold but otherwise fun! | 23:28 |
| jbicha | come visit South Carolina, we're warm this time of year :) | 23:32 |
| darkxst | I suspect anywhere is warmer than here atm. it was 2 degrees the other night when I went out riding! | 23:42 |
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