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| djjeff | anybody else up in here have a TAB 10.1 WIFI (P7510) | 02:32 |
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| RobbyF_ | djjeff, I had one :) | 02:35 |
| djjeff | grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | 02:35 |
| RobbyF_ | I figured I'd say something rather than leave you hanging here. | 02:36 |
| djjeff | I have Ubuntu Touch loaded on my TAB 10.1 | 02:36 |
| djjeff | followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/p4wifi | 02:36 |
| djjeff | I can adb shell and get root | 02:36 |
| djjeff | but nothing shows up on my screen | 02:37 |
| djjeff | its black | 02:37 |
| djjeff | I guess its cause I have a TAB 10.1 from CANADA | 02:39 |
| RobbyF_ | hmm | 02:39 |
| djjeff | I tried loading up UK version of Ice Cream Sandwhich and my screen would not come on at all | 02:39 |
| djjeff | had to ODIN reflash canadian version of ICS 4.0.4 | 02:40 |
| djjeff | to get the samsung logo to show up | 02:40 |
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| RobbyF | are you using the latest version of ubuntu touch? daily image? | 02:41 |
| RobbyF | I think there was a graphics issue on tablets WAYS back on dev preview | 02:41 |
| djjeff | I used http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/saucy-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip | 02:44 |
| RobbyF | I'm not able to help you out sorry. someone here will. gets popular in here around 12 hours from now | 02:44 |
| djjeff | I guess I should try the raring build | 02:48 |
| djjeff | see what happens | 02:48 |
| RobbyF | oh neat | 02:59 |
| RobbyF | chromium is on the latest saucy build | 02:59 |
| kc8qvp | My friend wants to install Qt 5.1 and try out the new stuff for Android development. I told him to add these repos: ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-beta-proper | 03:32 |
| kc8qvp | is that correct? sufficient? | 03:32 |
| kc8qvp | I was particularly wondering if there exists an ubuntu-sdk-team repo that corresponds with qt5-beta-proper | 03:32 |
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| n00b_ | Hello | 04:13 |
| n00b_ | Can anyone help me figure out how to update the time on the phone from Terminal in OS X? | 04:16 |
| n00b_ | When I try to connect via ssh it says Permission denied | 04:17 |
| n00b_ | Anyone there? | 04:20 |
| djjeff | OMFG I got it WORKING!!!!!!!!!!! | 05:15 |
| djjeff | I have Ubuntu touch on my TAB 10.1 | 05:15 |
| jono | djjeff, :-) | 05:35 |
| djjeff | no wifi no ssh no apt-get? | 05:43 |
| djjeff | its a start tho | 05:43 |
| jono | djjeff, there is wifi support | 05:45 |
| jono | there is also ssh via the terminal and apt-get :-) | 05:45 |
| djjeff | not on the build im using :( | 05:45 |
| djjeff | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/raring/monthly-06/raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip | 05:46 |
| krato | hi all | 06:14 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:26 |
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| djjeff | GM | 07:34 |
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| seb128 | dholbach, good morning my german friend! ;-) | 07:38 |
| dholbach | salut mon ami français - comment ça va? | 07:38 |
| PaoloRotolo | Hi all! | 07:45 |
| PaoloRotolo | please, do you know where I can find Qt Design 5? | 07:46 |
| seb128 | dholbach, ca va bien, et toi ? | 07:46 |
| seb128 | PaoloRotolo, hey, do you mean qtcreator? or what is qt design? | 07:46 |
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| dholbach | seb128, oui, ça va - heureux que le weekend est proche :) | 07:48 |
| seb128 | ;-) | 07:48 |
| PaoloRotolo | seb128, I found online "qt desing 4" to design qt interfaces. | 07:49 |
| PaoloRotolo | Hi dholbach :) | 07:49 |
| dholbach | ciao PaoloRotolo | 07:49 |
| PaoloRotolo | :D | 07:49 |
| seb128 | ok, dunno about "qt design", qtcreator include tools to build interfaces though | 07:50 |
| PaoloRotolo | seb128, I know, but when I download the source of an Ubuntu Touch app like "Weather", i can't find anything in the design tab. | 07:51 |
| seb128 | I don't know if people use visual tools to build the UI for those, or just write qml code | 07:52 |
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| veebers | tmoenicke: Hi, would you have a couple of moments to answer some queries i have? | 09:04 |
| tmoenicke | veebers: sure | 09:07 |
| veebers | tmoenicke: would a hangout be alright? | 09:07 |
| tmoenicke | veebers: yep | 09:10 |
| tmoenicke | sec | 09:10 |
| tmoenicke | veebers: calling you | 09:15 |
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| krato | hi to all | 09:33 |
| krato | i like to port the ubuntu touch to new hardware | 09:33 |
| krato | I need some info about porting | 09:33 |
| TobyK | 'lo :) | 09:39 |
| TobyK | does anyone have a work-around for when you boot up and apps don't start up (i.e. show blank screen)? | 09:46 |
| popey | TobyK: sounds like a bug | 09:47 |
| TobyK | my Nexus 7 is unusable 'cos I can't get past this | 09:47 |
| popey | krato: we have a porting page on the wiki linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch | 09:47 |
| popey | TobyK: I hear it sometimes "fixes" after a reboot | 09:47 |
| TobyK | popey: yes, I actually added that comment to the bug, but I've rebooted about 12 times now and it's still not working | 09:48 |
| popey | ☹ | 09:48 |
| TobyK | getting desparate now, tried deleting all my configs from home directory, killing anything and everything, etc. | 09:49 |
| TobyK | FYI the bug is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/1191144 | 09:50 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1191144 in touch-preview-images "On most boots, apps do not run" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 09:50 |
| TobyK | I can help debug this issue if someone wants me to try anything :) | 09:50 |
| om26er | A recent change in some lower level component broke our autopilot. If the shell is killed and we run our test suite only the first test passes all others fail | 09:52 |
| om26er | it seems the app textures are not destroyed and it remains visible on screen even if the process is killed. | 09:53 |
| om26er | mzanetti Saviq ^ | 09:54 |
| mzanetti | om26er: right.. I've seen that too yesterday | 09:55 |
| om26er | tests pass if the shell is running with screen unlocked, but if the shell is killed (phablet-test-run -n) tests fail | 09:55 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: do you know where that comes from? | 09:55 |
| mzanetti | greyback might be able to help here ^ | 09:55 |
| mzanetti | greyback: we have the issue that we can't run autopilot tests for apps when the shell is running because they are started minimized | 09:56 |
| mzanetti | greyback: now, stopping the shell is not an option any more because apps are stopped/hidden/whatever too | 09:56 |
| mzanetti | om26er: FYI, if we would have autopilot tests running on the phone in CI this change would not have made it into the release | 09:57 |
| om26er | mzanetti, you are right, we are working on that. | 09:57 |
| om26er | well we have the jobs there its just a matter of hooking it to -ci jobs | 09:58 |
| greyback | om26er: mzanetti: this is to test shell? | 09:58 |
| mzanetti | greyback: no, the apps mainly | 09:58 |
| greyback | mzanetti: would a testing shell not be best then? One which does not ensure newly opening apps go in from of shell, when shell doesn't expect it | 09:59 |
| greyback | s/from/front/ | 10:00 |
| mzanetti | greyback: actually it would be best to run them with the real shell... but I opened a but in december that apps launched from command line should be opened in foreground and I seem to be alone with that opinion since then | 10:00 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, om26er no, first I've heard | 10:01 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, om26er ah | 10:01 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, om26er, that should be fixed in the most recent shell | 10:01 |
| om26er | Saviq, is that not released yet ? | 10:02 |
| Saviq | om26er, yes it is | 10:02 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: I flashed yesterday evening. | 10:02 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: I can see this behaviour since then | 10:02 |
| mzanetti | let me try to flash again | 10:02 |
| greyback | interesting, let me see | 10:03 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, and if you go `webbrowser-app --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/webbrowser-app.desktop` | 10:03 |
| om26er | Saviq, last one from phablet-team ppa is 33hours hold, and I have that installed | 10:03 |
| Saviq | om26er, and if you do ↑ that the app launches minimized? | 10:03 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: then its minimized in the apps lens | 10:03 |
| Saviq | launches full-screen here... | 10:03 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: without the --dekstop_file_hint its not showing up at all | 10:04 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, yes, that's required | 10:04 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: yeah... I think there is some certain circumstance where it actually works... but not always | 10:04 |
| om26er | Saviq, no in that case it opens in the front | 10:04 |
| Saviq | it even focuses over a previous app here | 10:04 |
| * Saviq reads again | 10:05 | |
| om26er | Saviq, as I said if the shell is running and greeter is unlocked tests run fine.. but if the shell is killed they don't | 10:05 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, did you have a chance to test manta yesterday ? | 10:05 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, your translation was wrong ;P | 10:05 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, it's when the shell _isn't_ running | 10:05 |
| mzanetti | Saviq, om26er: this seems to work now mostly | 10:09 |
| mzanetti | I just launched 3 apps from command line and the first 2 of them actually showed up in foreground | 10:09 |
| mzanetti | If there are already minimized apps running, running another one from the command line brings the wrong one to the foreground | 10:09 |
| Saviq | om26er, I can't reproduce, I stopped the shell (and removed from /etc/device-services) | 10:10 |
| Saviq | om26er, and all the apps I start / stop go away | 10:10 |
| Saviq | om26er, and well, it's unrelated to the shell - it'd have to be the app manager in qtubuntu | 10:11 |
| mzanetti | om26er: anyways, in general you should work towards the goal that the shell is running during the autopilot tests | 10:12 |
| mzanetti | om26er: so instead of using -n you probably want to import the shells autopilot helpers and call unlock the greeter before running the apps tests | 10:13 |
| om26er | Saviq, right, i see the issue on two devices, you have the latest image ? | 10:13 |
| om26er | Saviq, who should I contact for qtubuntu ? | 10:14 |
| Saviq | om26er, ricmm | 10:14 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, can you file a bug for the wrong app comes to front issue? | 10:14 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: sure | 10:14 |
| om26er | mzanetti, there is a way to unlock the shell? I though that needed some help from mir et al | 10:14 |
| Saviq | om26er, just drag from the right :) | 10:15 |
| mzanetti | om26er: lp:unity/8.0/tests/autopilot/unity8/tests/helpers.py: unlock_greeter() | 10:15 |
| om26er | mzanetti, it would definitely make more sense to run our tests while the shell is running as that's our target | 10:15 |
| mzanetti | om26er: if you want to reuse that you might need to depend on unity8-autopilot in the app's autopilot packages | 10:16 |
| mzanetti | om26er: also I'm not sure how to connect to 2 different autopilot interfaces in 1 test suite (the shell and the app). you might want to talk to veebers or thomi about that | 10:16 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: what component is it actually that I should report the bug for? | 10:21 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, it's most probably the app manager, so touch-preview-images and assign ricmm | 10:22 |
| mzanetti | Saviq: cheers | 10:22 |
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| mzanetti | katie: ping | 10:45 |
| katie | mzanetti, hello | 10:46 |
| mzanetti | katie: lp:~mzanetti/unity/8-edge-hinting-onPressed and lp:~mzanetti/unity/8-edge-hinting-onReleased | 10:46 |
| mzanetti | katie: if you care about my opinion, the onReleased feels totally weird to me... I like the onPressed the most. second place is the one in the current image | 10:47 |
| katie | mzanetti, ooh.. great | 10:47 |
| katie | mzanetti, i'll have a look | 10:47 |
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| seb128 | bah, could io be any slower on grouper? | 11:24 |
| * seb128 trying to build packages there | 11:24 | |
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| Minste | When I get a sms, the phone are really slow until I manage to red the message. also the notification symbol just flashing and shows nothing in the message dropdown. Have to go to phone-conversations and open the tekst to get the notification symbol stop flashing or read the message. Is this a known bug? running mako. | 11:35 |
| Minste | read* | 11:35 |
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| davmor2 | seb128: grouper I think is the worse of the lot to be honest :( | 11:57 |
| davmor2 | seb128: from what I see it seems it is the least well supported ubuntu touch demo devise | 11:59 |
| seb128 | well, in that case I just use it as a buildd for testing a bug | 11:59 |
| esigolo | . | 12:03 |
| djjeff | I almost have wifi working on the P7510 TAB 10.1 | 12:04 |
| AskUbuntu | Ubuntu Touch Contacts | http://askubuntu.com/q/311016 | 12:12 |
| esigolo | there is a list with what is working and what is not? | 12:20 |
| esigolo | I'm reading the changelog but | 12:20 |
| esigolo | i'm not a developer so is a little bit confuse for me | 12:21 |
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| * xnox ponders if my nexus7 is screwed or not..... volume down key doesn't work. | 12:37 | |
| om26er | mzanetti, I had internet issues. My question is, to be able to unlock the screen would we need to restart the shell in testability ? | 12:37 |
| xnox | it booted, hope is not lost =) | 12:38 |
| mzanetti | om26er: yes | 12:38 |
| om26er | mzanetti, the current unity shell is always able to introspect, is that something also considered for the QML version? | 12:39 |
| om26er | for example to test unity 7 there is no need to restart it, it just works | 12:39 |
| mzanetti | om26er: I'd say no... I think having the testability always enabled imposes a security risk too... especially since its possible to invoke slots through autopilot-qt | 12:40 |
| om26er | mzanetti, ack | 12:41 |
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| nik90 | popey: can you help test https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/clock-fontsizes | 13:02 |
| popey | sure thing! | 13:02 |
| nik90 | popey: and let me know if the fonts sizes look ok on the phone | 13:02 |
| nik90 | thnx | 13:03 |
| popey | np | 13:04 |
| rtg_ | ChickenCutlass, ogra_, when updating an N10 from Android, do I need to 'phablet-flash -b' before 'phablet-flash --flipped' ? | 13:09 |
| ChickenCutlass | rtg_, yes | 13:09 |
| rtg_ | ack, thanks | 13:09 |
| ogra_ | rtg_, n10 doessnt work with flipped yet | 13:09 |
| ChickenCutlass | oops | 13:09 |
| rtg_ | bummer | 13:09 |
| ChickenCutlass | ogra_, I thought we fixed that | 13:10 |
| ChickenCutlass | guess not | 13:10 |
| rtg_ | what device _does_ work ? | 13:10 |
| popey | oh crud, i can't take screenshots anymore now I've got a flipped image | 13:10 |
| ogra_ | ChickenCutlass, well, i havent heard back from rsalveti yet ... and even then we dont have the udev rules for getting SF up yet | 13:10 |
| ChickenCutlass | rtg_, n4 and original nexus | 13:10 |
| ogra_ | rtg_, all other nexus devices do | 13:11 |
| nik90 | popey: oh | 13:11 |
| popey | ooh, maybe I can | 13:11 |
| nik90 | popey: but that's ok..I just need your opinion about it | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | i dont have an n10 and the ones we have in the team are in a different TZ, that makes everything a bit slow | 13:11 |
| rtg_ | ogra_, even N7 ? I thought grouper was having issues. | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | rtg_, not since the last kernel upload | 13:11 |
| rtg_ | ah, cool. I actually fixed something :) | 13:11 |
| ogra_ | note though that the current image is broken (took 4h to get the fix in the archive) i just started a new build ... wait 2h for a fixed image | 13:12 |
| rtg_ | with your clear directions of course. | 13:12 |
| rtg_ | well, I'm flashing my N10 to begin with | 13:12 |
| ogra_ | well, getting some feedback if it gets to an adb session with the new iimage would help | 13:13 |
| popey | nik90: having trouble actually starting it... one mo | 13:13 |
| sidnei | uhm, i flashed latest and now contacts are not showing up, even the ones i add manually | 13:14 |
| sidnei | oh, same as the question in ask :) | 13:14 |
| davmor2 | ogra_: why does search not work on the home lens? | 13:14 |
| ogra_ | heh, ask one of the UI guys ... i.e. Saviq | 13:15 |
| ogra_ | or ted | 13:15 |
| Saviq | davmor2, 'cause it's not the real home scope yet | 13:15 |
| davmor2 | Saviq: ah okay that makes sense then | 13:15 |
| Saviq | davmor2, we're going to make it real soon | 13:15 |
| Saviq | davmor2, i.e. it's fake data currently (and not even a fake scope, as is the case for video and music) | 13:16 |
| popey | nik90: ok, got it running.. what do you want to know? | 13:16 |
| nik90 | can you check the font size of the current world locations | 13:17 |
| nik90 | my personal feeling was that it looks too big, however I wasnt sure how they look on the phone | 13:17 |
| sidnei | so it's not possible to search for installed apps either? eg, i installed the terminal app, how do launch or even get a shortcut to it on the screen? | 13:17 |
| popey | is it the same size as the word "Search" in the button? | 13:17 |
| popey | it looks big but nicely readable | 13:17 |
| popey | nik90: none of the cities wrap or go off the screen | 13:18 |
| popey | even long ones like Washington DC, United States | 13:18 |
| popey | Or my fave Yamoussoukro, Ivory Coast | 13:18 |
| popey | nik90: http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-06-21-141732.png | 13:19 |
| popey | nik90: anything else? | 13:19 |
| nik90 | popey: nope. The screenshot helped | 13:20 |
| popey | nik90: you know the buttons in the stopwatch are off screen? | 13:20 |
| nik90 | popey: yes, there is a bug report on it | 13:20 |
| popey | thought so | 13:20 |
| nik90 | popey: I have asked renato to fix it who is very busy at the moment | 13:20 |
| popey | ok | 13:20 |
| nik90 | popey: besides with the new visual design, that should also be fixed | 13:20 |
| popey | of course | 13:20 |
| nik90 | I got the desigsn this morning | 13:20 |
| popey | yay | 13:21 |
| nik90 | will start implementing soon :) | 13:21 |
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| sidnei | is it normal that ofonod is constantly at 20% cpu? | 13:36 |
| dorsatum | hi, i was following the tutorial given on this page ->http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/getting-started/currency-converter-phone-app/ | 13:38 |
| dorsatum | and the last point mentioned | 13:38 |
| dorsatum | where we can view and use ComponentsShowcase.qml | 13:40 |
| dorsatum | that part doesn't work out for me | 13:40 |
| dorsatum | the ubuntu-ui-toolkit folder that i have | 13:40 |
| dorsatum | has only examples | 13:40 |
| dorsatum | any ideas? | 13:41 |
| mhall119 | dorsatum: under examples is ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gallery | 13:41 |
| mhall119 | that's where the showcase has been moved to | 13:41 |
| mhall119 | qmlscene ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gallery.qml | 13:42 |
| mhall119 | should get it running for you | 13:42 |
| sidnei | http://theravingrick.blogspot.com.br/2013/06/the-social-phone.html mentions 'Search the application lens' but i can't find out how to do that | 13:43 |
| sidnei | is this something that's on unity-next but not on the image perhaps? | 13:43 |
| pmcgowan | sidnei, you can search it now, go to apps view, click the search text in the top panel | 13:50 |
| sidnei | oooh, now it works | 13:51 |
| sidnei | i was trying to drag down instead of tap | 13:52 |
| morphis | sergiusens: ping | 13:53 |
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| morphis | sergiusens: you're the reporter of https://bugs.launchpad.net/phone-app/+bug/1089431 ; did you restest this with a recent version of ofono? | 13:55 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1089431 in phone-app "[telephony] SMS send error checking non existent" [High,In progress] | 13:55 |
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| om26er | mzanetti, wouldn't it make more sense to have the unlock screen thing in autopilot itself? else each app will have to implement it in its tests. | 13:57 |
| pmcgowan | sidnei, interesting, not an unreasonable expectation | 13:57 |
| om26er | mzanetti, also jcollado have been able to execute multiple apps in a test suite, though not sure if that's the way we'd like to have in our apps: lp:~javier.collado/ubuntu-test-cases/memory_usage_measurement | 13:58 |
| sidnei | pmcgowan: it's also confusing that you have to be on the 'apps' view, and it doesn't work on the 'home' view for example | 14:00 |
| rtg_ | ogra_, whats the story on 'adbd cannot run as root in production builds' ? I've done 'sudo fastboot oem unlock' and 'adb kill-server; adb start-server'. | 14:09 |
| rtg_ | this is on an N10 with stock Android 4.2.2 | 14:09 |
| ogra_ | you should have done the adb start-server with sudo | 14:09 |
| ogra_ | iirc | 14:10 |
| rtg_ | ogra_, no joy | 14:10 |
| ogra_ | and indeed you need to enable adb in the android UI | 14:10 |
| ogra_ | usb debugging etc | 14:10 |
| rtg_ | done that with USB debugging | 14:10 |
| ogra_ | did it no pop up a question in the screen if you want to allow your PC to connect ? | 14:11 |
| rtg_ | yep, said yes | 14:11 |
| rtg_ | I'll try disabling that, then restarting the adb server | 14:12 |
| ogra_ | hmm, that should work ... | 14:12 |
| rtg_ | drat, same deal | 14:12 |
| ogra_ | did you get any popup on the PC side ? | 14:13 |
| rtg_ | popup for what ? | 14:13 |
| ogra_ | iirc i had that with the latest android version for some devices | 14:13 |
| ogra_ | a gtk popup telling you about the device being connected with a yes/no question | 14:13 |
| rtg_ | I do not appear to have any popups hiding on my desktop | 14:14 |
| ogra_ | i havent had that on all devices, but on some | 14:14 |
| matv1 | Hi, can anyone tell me if Caldav connectivity is on the wishlist for the calendar app? Or is this not the right place to ask? | 14:15 |
| esigolo | is not possible to run adb shell from windows is it? | 14:16 |
| esigolo | I mean after flashing | 14:18 |
| ogra_ | why wouldnt it ? | 14:18 |
| ogra_ | as long as you have an adb.exe it should work as it did before | 14:18 |
| esigolo | adb shell error: device not found | 14:18 |
| ogra_ | well, adbd is definitely running on all images ... try to re-plug | 14:19 |
| ogra_ | sounds like a windows side issue | 14:20 |
| esigolo | maybe driver ? | 14:20 |
| ogra_ | probably | 14:20 |
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| esigolo | should i install from the SDK manager? | 14:22 |
| ogra_ | androids SDK manager ? | 14:22 |
| ogra_ | nope | 14:22 |
| esigolo | from where ? | 14:23 |
| ogra_ | i thought you had flashed already ? | 14:24 |
| esigolo | yes i'm running touch now | 14:25 |
| esigolo | i just want to access the shell | 14:25 |
| esigolo | phone shell | 14:25 |
| ogra_ | well, how did you install ? | 14:26 |
| esigolo | adb push and flashed with cwm | 14:26 |
| ogra_ | and which image did you flash | 14:26 |
| ogra_ | (download url would be helpful) | 14:27 |
| esigolo | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/saucy-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip | 14:27 |
| esigolo | and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/saucy-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip | 14:28 |
| ogra_ | ok | 14:28 |
| ogra_ | that still uses android as the base so the device side is 100% identical to what you had on android | 14:28 |
| ogra_ | there is no reason for adb to not give yu access ... | 14:28 |
| esigolo | but touch is runing [2013-06-21 11:29.13] /cygdrive/c/ubuntu [T801628.AK0033640] → fastboot.exe devices v ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┠| 14:29 |
| esigolo | weird | 14:31 |
| esigolo | with ubuntu runing on phone I should be able to access right? | 14:32 |
| ogra_ | fastboot ??? | 14:33 |
| ogra_ | fastboot is accessing the device in bootloader mode only | 14:33 |
| ogra_ | you want adb | 14:33 |
| esigolo | just to see if i can see the device | 14:33 |
| esigolo | listed | 14:33 |
| ogra_ | you wont se it with fastboot | 14:34 |
| esigolo | adb devices also | 14:34 |
| esigolo | Exclamation mark on device manager | 14:35 |
| ogra_ | well, i'd blame windows | 14:35 |
| mzanetti | om26er: yeah... could make sense. could you please discuss that with thomi? | 14:36 |
| esigolo | ogra_: fixed | 14:48 |
| ogra_ | what was it ? | 14:48 |
| esigolo | just forced to use the driver | 14:48 |
| esigolo | on the device manager | 14:49 |
| esigolo | option select driver from the list | 14:49 |
| esigolo | and select Android adb interface | 14:50 |
| esigolo | ogra_: how can I send a text msg? | 14:54 |
| ogra_ | go to the apps lens, tap the looking glass, search for friends | 14:56 |
| ogra_ | i think thats also handling SMS | 14:56 |
| ogra_ | (though dont rely on me, i have no SIM card in my phones | 14:57 |
| ogra_ | ) | 14:57 |
| esigolo | thansk | 15:03 |
| esigolo | I received a new msg | 15:03 |
| esigolo | but is just blinking | 15:03 |
| esigolo | i can't find the text anywere | 15:04 |
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| pmcgowan | esigolo, it will be in the conversation tab of the phone app, the messaging pulldown is temporarily busted | 15:11 |
| esigolo | pmcgowan: thansk | 15:16 |
| om26er | Saviq, i have a feature request, unity shell should only support one running instance, if a new instance is called it should first kill the already running and start new. how does it feel ? | 15:32 |
| awe | ogra_, so any other ideas on udev fix for rmnet? | 15:32 |
| awe | I tried your rule, and no go... | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | phablet NetworkManager[1079]: SCPlugin-Ifupdown: device added (path: /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsic_host/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.5/net/rmnet_usb0, iface: rmnet_usb0): no ifupdown configuration found. | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | Jun 20 23:39:59 ubuntu-phablet NetworkManager[1079]: <warn> failed to allocate link cache: (-10) Operation not supported | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | Jun 20 23:39:59 ubuntu-phablet NetworkManager[1079]: <info> (rmnet_usb0): carrier is OFF | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | awe, thats what i'm seeing on flipped | 15:33 |
| awe | and that's bad | 15:33 |
| awe | there should be no rmnet_usb* devices | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | now i wonder what is that link cache it talks about :) | 15:33 |
| awe | there aren't in the non-flipped image | 15:33 |
| ogra_ | Jun 20 22:42:28 ubuntu-phablet NetworkManager[504]: <info> Policy set '3g' (rmnet_usb0) as default for IPv4 routing and DNS. | 15:34 |
| awe | ogra_, NM is trying to use these devices because they appear to be eth devices | 15:34 |
| ogra_ | thats what i have in non flippe | 15:34 |
| ogra_ | d | 15:34 |
| ogra_ | in your log | 15:34 |
| awe | don't pay attention to the NM logs | 15:34 |
| ogra_ | heh, well, you attached them :) | 15:34 |
| awe | ogra_, yes... to illustrate that in non-flipped, NM sees rmnet0...3, and ignores | 15:35 |
| ogra_ | what i noticed though ... | 15:35 |
| awe | in flipped, it sees those and ignores, but then also sees rmnet_usb0...3 too | 15:35 |
| ogra_ | root@ubuntu-phablet:/# cat /proc/393/mounts|grep sysfs | 15:35 |
| ogra_ | sysfs /sys sysfs rw,relatime 0 0 | 15:35 |
| ogra_ | root@ubuntu-phablet:/# mount |grep sysfs | 15:35 |
| ogra_ | sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) | 15:35 |
| ogra_ | root@ubuntu-phablet:/# | 15:35 |
| awe | and tries to use them | 15:35 |
| ogra_ | we do mount /sys differently | 15:35 |
| awe | whatever we're doing, it's not correct | 15:35 |
| awe | ;D | 15:35 |
| ogra_ | right, so probably try to add a /sys entry to your fstab (that will override the default) | 15:36 |
| ogra_ | with just rw,relatime as options | 15:36 |
| awe | I'm not sure how that fixes things... | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | given how weird android is, i can imagine the nodev blocks someting | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | (using devices from /sys instead of /dev) | 15:37 |
| ogra_ | beyond that, let me go through init.rc of mako | 15:38 |
| Joe_B | For the contributor agreement, what if I don't have a "Canonical Project Manager or contact"? | 15:38 |
| awe | pwd | 15:50 |
| * awe sighs | 15:50 | |
| mhall119 | Joe_B: what do you plan on contributing to? | 15:55 |
| Joe_B | mhall119: to start with I was just going to browse the sdk and take a look around, so this isn't something I need to deal with immediately. | 15:56 |
| Joe_B | Are there plans for a wallpaper changer? support for live wallpapers? I could maybe help with the first. | 15:57 |
| mhall119 | wallpaper changer I believe is on the feature list | 15:57 |
| mhall119 | I don't know about live ones | 15:57 |
| mhall119 | since it's really just a background for the dash | 15:58 |
| Saviq | om26er, found it | 16:07 |
| Saviq | om26er, it should be handled via upstart | 16:07 |
| Saviq | om26er, but then it could fail to start if it finds an instance already | 16:08 |
| Saviq | om26er, file a bug against unity/8.0 please? | 16:08 |
| om26er | Saviq, yes will do. if the shell is already running it should be killed and a new instance shall be started. that's pretty much what we have in desktop unity right now | 16:09 |
| Saviq | om26er, only with --replace | 16:09 |
| Saviq | om26er, by default it would just fail to start | 16:09 |
| Saviq | om26er, but that, IMO, should be handled via upstart | 16:09 |
| Saviq | om26er, i.e. restart unity8 | 16:09 |
| Saviq | om26er, I don't want to build such functionality into unity8, hardly feels like the right place... | 16:10 |
| om26er | Saviq, so what's the final word should we have a bug for unity/8.0 regarding this or nor ? | 16:11 |
| om26er | *not | 16:11 |
| Saviq | om26er, bug, yes please | 16:11 |
| Saviq | om26er, how it's gonna get solved is a different issue | 16:12 |
| Saviq | om26er, but bug, yes, please | 16:12 |
| om26er | Saviq, bug 1193412 | 16:14 |
| ubot5 | bug 1193412 in Unity "Starting unity from terminal should restart it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1193412 | 16:14 |
| om26er | though it went to https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/ | 16:15 |
| Saviq | om26er, yeah, there's no way to only target unity/8.0 | 16:15 |
| Saviq | greyback, ricmm, can you please comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1193412 whether what I wrote makes sense? | 16:19 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1193412 in Unity 8.0 "Starting unity from terminal should restart it" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:19 |
| greyback | Saviq: yep, looks ok. | 16:21 |
| ogra_ | awe, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5787218/ here are some more devices that need radio ownership | 16:23 |
| * ogra_ hopes he has alll now | 16:24 | |
| ogra_ | awe, see if that fixes it | 16:24 |
| Joe_B | In the qtcreator, why is it supported platforms seems to list only desktop for everything? is there an example touch app in there? | 16:25 |
| awe | ogra_, it's not radio ownership that's the issue. | 16:25 |
| awe | I'll give it a try, but am not optimistic | 16:25 |
| awe | I'm also going to re-flash non-flipped to do some more poking around | 16:26 |
| ogra_ | well, we were missing all the permissions for these devices (along with the ownership) | 16:26 |
| awe | I'll try...but don't think it'll solve the problem | 16:27 |
| awe | ogra_, so is the plan to just add all this stuff into one giant android udev rule??? | 16:33 |
| awe | ogra_, wouldn't it make sense to create rules files for each device? | 16:34 |
| ogra_ | awe, yeah, and a generic android rule | 16:34 |
| ogra_ | for now one giant one will do though | 16:34 |
| ogra_ | but yeah, i didnt plan to keep it that way :) | 16:34 |
| awe | so will we try and split before we make flipped the default, and or will we flip and then try and break apart? | 16:35 |
| ogra_ | in fact i think we should have a translation tool that parses ueventd.rc into a rule | 16:35 |
| ogra_ | i would filp first | 16:35 |
| awe | ogra_, do you have a blueprint you're working off of? | 16:36 |
| ogra_ | nope | 16:36 |
| awe | as I think it's important to track a WI for splitting apart this giant udev rule | 16:36 |
| ogra_ | there was a flipping BP ... but that was a0 pretty sparse on WIs and b) owned by pat | 16:36 |
| awe | ogra_, hmmmm... you might want to discuss with ChickenCutlass then. seems like thi sia something easily lost | 16:36 |
| * ogra_ doubts that given we need to find a proper way for ports anyway ... but yeah, we might want to create a container-flip-cleanup BP | 16:37 | |
| awe | ogra_, no dice | 16:37 |
| ogra_ | ok | 16:38 |
| awe | ogra_, can we track workarounds we've tried in the bug? | 16:38 |
| awe | I'll add what I've tried to so far | 16:38 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 16:38 |
| ogra_ | we will need these rules anyway though | 16:38 |
| mhall119 | Kaleo: ping | 16:44 |
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| rickspencer3 | mhall119, I'm looking for docs on using notify-osd with the Ubuntu components ... little help? | 16:53 |
| mhall119 | rickspencer3: I don't think there is an API for it yet, not outside of the shell itself and maybe some custom stuff for the default apps | 16:58 |
| rickspencer3 | oh? | 16:59 |
| mhall119 | AFAIK, none of the Unity integration APIs are available from QML yet | 16:59 |
| rickspencer3 | that bites | 16:59 |
| mhall119 | so, no launcher, indicators, etc | 16:59 |
| rickspencer3 | booo | 16:59 |
| mhall119 | agreed | 16:59 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, how did you do this for sharing from the Gallery? | 16:59 |
| rickspencer3 | ^ | 16:59 |
| morphis | awe: hm, I didn't verified the bug yet cause of a missing suitable SIM card but at least according to the source code some things have changed in the relevant code parts so I would expect the bug already to be fixed | 17:03 |
| awe | morphis, can you add comments to the bug directly, I'm in a meeting right now. I will look it over. Also, did you see my comment about handling error reports? | 17:05 |
| morphis | awe: yes I did | 17:05 |
| morphis | awe: pinged sergiusens here to ask wether he can shortly retest with an latest image | 17:05 |
| awe | sergio is on vacation | 17:05 |
| awe | please update the bug, and I can test if you don't have the capability to do so | 17:06 |
| morphis | awe: will get a SIM card with credits tomorrow | 17:06 |
| awe | k | 17:06 |
| morphis | let me verify my findings and I will add them | 17:07 |
| morphis | will do that tomorrow but need to get some other work done today | 17:07 |
| Kaleo | mhall119: pong | 17:07 |
| mhall119 | Kaleo: hey, I was checking up on some SDK stuff | 17:13 |
| mhall119 | 1) The component to access commandline args, to replace the C++ app launcher that the docviewer is using | 17:14 |
| Kaleo | mhall119: it's merged for a few weeks | 17:14 |
| Kaleo | mhall119: however the online doc is not up to date | 17:14 |
| mhall119 | and 2) The background tasks discussions originally included a way to play music in the background, is that available or being worked on? | 17:14 |
| mhall119 | Kaleo: right, I know the developer.u.c docs are out of date, I think dpm was going to update them | 17:15 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3, the gallery uses share-app to do that actual share | 17:15 |
| Kaleo | mhall119: yeah, dpm is | 17:15 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, but what about the notify-osd integration? | 17:15 |
| Kaleo | mhall119: 2) is not available nor being worked on currently | 17:15 |
| mhall119 | Kaleo: is that planned to be done before October? | 17:16 |
| Kaleo | mhall119: I think it slipped the spreadsheet | 17:17 |
| Kaleo | mhall119: it's in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1305-background-task-service and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MissingSDKFeatures | 17:18 |
| Kaleo | mhall119: I'll put it in the spreadsheet | 17:18 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3, even trickier | 17:19 |
| kenvandine | there is qml bindings in share-app | 17:19 |
| rickspencer3 | :/ | 17:19 |
| kenvandine | a few lines of c++ | 17:19 |
| kenvandine | well | 17:19 |
| mhall119 | thanks Kaleo | 17:19 |
| kenvandine | now that the new notify-osd has landed in the shell | 17:20 |
| kenvandine | i bet you can do it without that | 17:20 |
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| svip | I am trying to deploy Ubuntu Touch on an old Nexus (the second newest one, I believe), and after having seemingly been succesful, it suddenly went to Ubuntu's bootloader and complained that it could not deploy the autodeploy.zip file, because the device was no longer connected. I tried to reboot it, but no luck. Now when I reboot its bootloader, it says 'Downloading...' and 'Do not turn off target !!' and I can only select START. | 17:59 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, mhall119 pmcgowan tells me that Ubuntu Components sdk integration for notify-osd should come next week | 17:59 |
| rickspencer3 | \o/ | 17:59 |
| pmcgowan | oh man | 18:00 |
| pmcgowan | heh | 18:00 |
| mhall119 | \o/ | 18:00 |
| svip | What does downloading in this context mean? :S | 18:00 |
| mhall119 | svip: Nexus what? | 18:01 |
| svip | mhall119: I dunno, Nexus 3? Maybe? | 18:03 |
| svip | It doesn't say on the device. | 18:03 |
| mhall119 | I don't think they come in 3 | 18:03 |
| svip | Board name is tuna REV 9, if that helps. | 18:03 |
| mhall119 | tuna? hmmm, I don't know what that one is | 18:04 |
| svip | mhall119: Ah, Galaxy Nexus. | 18:06 |
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| svip | Oh great, now I am in the good bootloader again (or at least the one where I can select recovery mode). | 18:06 |
| svip | Oooh, now it appears to be working. | 18:09 |
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| kenvandine | pmcgowan, i'll look forward to that | 18:15 |
| kenvandine | then i can drop most of the cpp code from share-app :) | 18:15 |
| pmcgowan | kenvandine, you will be the first to know then | 18:16 |
| kenvandine | pmcgowan, excellent :) | 18:16 |
| svip | mhall119: Hm, nah, I was wrong, after the autodeploy.zip was put on; it now just boots to a black screen. | 18:18 |
| awe | ogra_, I need to grab some grub, but wondering if you need more debug info from me rE: the 3g bug? | 18:19 |
| awe | ogra_, I'll be back ~15-20m | 18:19 |
| svip | mhall119: I always speak too soon! Sorry; now it is working. :) | 18:19 |
| awe | I just re-flashed non-flipped and will take a look at sysfs to see if I see the same devices | 18:20 |
| ogra_ | awe, great | 18:21 |
| stgraber | ogra_: hey, do we use swap on any of the touch devices? | 18:27 |
| ogra_ | stgraber, yep, a swapfile ... but the plan is to get rid of it | 18:30 |
| stgraber | ogra_: good, I like that plan, because that file is changing between every rootfs .tar.gz and so always ends up in my diffs ;) | 18:35 |
| ogra_ | stgraber, well, not sure *when* we can get rid of it .... ricmm and rsalveti might know .... it kind of goes together with being able to put apps to sleep | 18:39 |
| ogra_ | iirc | 18:39 |
| rsalveti | stgraber: ogra_: we'll probably keep it for a while, at least until we get some optimizations done in the shell | 18:47 |
| rsalveti | stgraber: we might change the way we create it then | 18:47 |
| awe | ogra_, I checked and the devices in /sys look the same flipped vs. non-flipped. I'll look at the NM code next, however I need to spend some time on the socket retry code next | 19:04 |
| awe | s/retry code next/retry code now/ | 19:04 |
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| FunnyLookinHat | Hey guys - how do you install a terminal ? | 19:17 |
| pmcgowan | FunnyLookinHat, there is one in the image | 19:19 |
| FunnyLookinHat | pmcgowan, in the latest saucy? I'm not seeing on in my launcher | 19:19 |
| pmcgowan | FunnyLookinHat, you need to search in the apps lens | 19:19 |
| pmcgowan | we are actually changing that to show them all by default until categories get finished | 19:20 |
| FunnyLookinHat | Ah ok | 19:21 |
| FunnyLookinHat | good idea :) | 19:21 |
| genii | Is the Slimport adapter utilized? | 19:32 |
| genii | ( on the Nexus 4 ) | 19:33 |
| ChickenCutlass | wtf | 19:37 |
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| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, what do I need to import for FriendsDispatcher? | 20:06 |
| kenvandine | Friends 0.1 | 20:07 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, like this: | 20:08 |
| rickspencer3 | import Ubuntu.Friends 0.1 | 20:08 |
| rickspencer3 | ? | 20:08 |
| kenvandine | no | 20:08 |
| kenvandine | import Friends 0.1 | 20:08 |
| kenvandine | not in the Ubuntu namespace | 20:08 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks kenvandine | 20:09 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, one more ... how do I get the account # from the AccountService inside a delegate? | 20:11 |
| kenvandine | is the id | 20:11 |
| kenvandine | it's "id" | 20:11 |
| rickspencer3 | so account.id | 20:11 |
| rickspencer3 | or just "id" | 20:11 |
| kenvandine | probably account.id | 20:11 |
| kenvandine | i don't remember.. :) | 20:12 |
| rickspencer3 | hmm | 20:12 |
| rickspencer3 | doesn't seem to be either :/ | 20:12 |
| kenvandine | oh | 20:13 |
| kenvandine | it's accountId | 20:13 |
| rickspencer3 | ah | 20:13 |
| rickspencer3 | nice | 20:13 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, https://twitter.com/rickspencer3/statuses/348172567355482113 | 20:17 |
| kenvandine | rickspencer3, nice! | 20:18 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, and ... https://twitter.com/rickspencer3/statuses/348173215039885312 | 20:19 |
| kenvandine | even better! | 20:20 |
| rickspencer3 | mhall119, I have a new version of reddgur in the branch that supports micro-blogging | 20:22 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, I can't wait to add notify-osd support, that will be sweet | 20:22 |
| kenvandine | yeah :) | 20:23 |
| rickspencer3 | kenvandine, when I get back from holidays, I'll extract those buttons and that dialog into self-container unit | 20:24 |
| kenvandine | cool | 20:25 |
| kenvandine | nice component | 20:25 |
| icoop | hi! I just flashed ubuntu-touch on my galaxy nexus. Now I am trying to add online accounts to use the friends app. On askubuntu someone had the same question but no answer. Does anyone here have a tip for me? | 20:45 |
| rickspencer3 | icoop, you need to use the terminal app to add the accounts | 20:52 |
| rickspencer3 | icoop, to add twitter do $uoa-create twitter <your-twitter-handle> | 20:53 |
| rickspencer3 | to add facebook do $uoa-create facebook <your-facebook-id> | 20:53 |
| rickspencer3 | (unless kenvandine added a UI for it since I last did this) | 20:54 |
| icoop | perfect! Thank you! | 20:56 |
| jcastro | icoop: can you close your question on askubuntu or post an answer when you get it sorted? | 20:56 |
| icoop | sure | 20:56 |
| jcastro | thanks man! | 20:57 |
| rickspencer3 | dang it | 21:00 |
| rickspencer3 | is the fact that installed apps don't show up properly in the Apps lens a well known issue? | 21:00 |
| rickspencer3 | arg, this means I can't get to the terminal! | 21:01 |
| rickspencer3 | rsalveti, sergiusens ? ^ | 21:02 |
| rickspencer3 | ChickenCutlass, ^ ? | 21:02 |
| ChickenCutlass | rickspencer3, what's up -- terminal not working? | 21:04 |
| rickspencer3 | ChickenCutlass, App Lens is not working | 21:04 |
| rickspencer3 | ChickenCutlass, the icons for installed apps are all empty windows | 21:04 |
| ChickenCutlass | rickspencer3, hmm. working for me. | 21:04 |
| rickspencer3 | also when I search | 21:05 |
| rickspencer3 | oh fudge | 21:05 |
| ChickenCutlass | rickspencer3, do an update / upgrade then reboot | 21:05 |
| ChickenCutlass | maybe | 21:05 |
| rickspencer3 | ChickenCutlass, I installed the Developer Support | 21:05 |
| rickspencer3 | which took hours to install | 21:05 |
| rickspencer3 | and I bet it busted me | 21:05 |
| ChickenCutlass | weird | 21:05 |
| mhall119 | rickspencer3: bzr merge lp:~mhall119/+junk/reddgur/ to get the packaging files I've been using | 21:05 |
| rickspencer3 | ChickenCutlass, if I just phablet-flash will it install the today's image again for me? | 21:06 |
| * rickspencer3 tries | 21:06 | |
| ChickenCutlass | rickspencer3, yes | 21:06 |
| ChickenCutlass | it will | 21:06 |
| rickspencer3 | oh boy | 21:07 |
| rickspencer3 | ChickenCutlass, it shows some weird looking grub-like page! | 21:07 |
| * rickspencer3 falls to floor in panic | 21:07 | |
| ChickenCutlass | rickspencer3, you running the flipped image? | 21:07 |
| ChickenCutlass | rickspencer3, if so -- you will see the recovery screen | 21:07 |
| rickspencer3 | ChickenCutlass, I phablet-flashed this morning | 21:07 |
| rickspencer3 | so, whatever I got | 21:08 |
| rickspencer3 | ChickenCutlass, also, phablet-flash just fixed my issue | 21:08 |
| ChickenCutlass | ok | 21:08 |
| popey | 22:05:19 < rickspencer3> ChickenCutlass, I installed the Developer Support | 21:08 |
| popey | did you do that in qtcreator? | 21:08 |
| rickspencer3 | popey, yes | 21:08 |
| popey | right | 21:08 |
| popey | i suspect it added one of bzoltan1's ppa's and pulled in some crack | 21:09 |
| rickspencer3 | popey, that stuff needs some QA badly | 21:09 |
| djjeff | I wish I could install grub bootloader on my tab 10.1 | 21:10 |
| rickspencer3 | based on usage I suspect that the functionality is largely untested | 21:10 |
| rickspencer3 | it's starting urk me, tbh | 21:10 |
| * rickspencer3 shakes fist | 21:10 | |
| mhall119 | +1 | 21:10 |
| wilee-nilee | Stella, Stellaaaaaa | 21:11 |
| rickspencer3 | lol | 21:11 |
| wilee-nilee | ;) | 21:11 |
| popey | alan@deep-thought:~$ grep ppa /usr/share/qtcreator/ubuntu/scripts/qtc_device_developertools | 21:16 |
| popey | $ADB apt-add-repository ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper -y | 21:16 |
| popey | that would be it I imagine | 21:16 |
| popey | rickspencer3: you may be able to get away with "sudo ppa-purge ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper" | 21:17 |
| rickspencer3 | popey, well, I guess it will all get blown away the next time I phablet-flash ;) | 21:17 |
| popey | that too | 21:18 |
| vthompson | Does anyone know how packages that are built in the core apps PPA by Jenkins are built into the images? | 21:18 |
| popey | vthompson: i suspect sergiusens or ricmm can answer questions related to that | 21:19 |
| popey | or rsalveti | 21:19 |
| vthompson | rsalveti, sergiusens, or ricmm there are currently two packages in the PPA for the Nemo Folderlistmodel QML plugin that music-app and ubuntu-filemanager-app use. qtdeclarative5-nemo-qml-plugins-folderlistmodel is the older plugin (ubuntu-filemanager-app still depends on this, but I have a merge proposal to change this). qtdeclarative5-nemo-qml-plugin-folderlistmodel is the newer package that music-app depends on. When | 21:23 |
| vthompson | ubuntu-filemanager-app changes to depend on the latter, the image will need to have that package | 21:23 |
| mhall119 | why the name change? | 21:36 |
| rsalveti | rickspencer3: I know Saviq was working in a few fixes for the shell | 21:42 |
| rsalveti | black screen and also into the installed apps issue (blank icons) | 21:43 |
| rsalveti | vthompson: right, and where is the new package? | 21:43 |
| vthompson | mhall119, name change was *probably* because the set of Nemo plugins were split up. Now we only need the Folderlistmodel. | 21:47 |
| vthompson | rsalveti, the package is in the PPA as nemo-qml-plugin-folderlistmodel | 21:48 |
| rsalveti | vthompson: in the core apps ppa? | 21:48 |
| rsalveti | if so, the image will already use that | 21:49 |
| vthompson | the older plugin was under nemo-qml-plugins. It hasn't been built since March | 21:49 |
| vthompson | Yep | 21:49 |
| vthompson | The PPA also has "nemo-qml-plugins" I think there's a conflict | 21:49 |
| vthompson | I don't see the new version in the manifests. | 21:50 |
| vthompson | Is it because ubuntu-filemanager-app depends on the old plugin still? Will this be automatically fixed when they change their dependency? | 21:51 |
| vthompson | music-app isn't get built into the image yet, so nothing in the image depends on the newer plugin. | 21:52 |
| rsalveti | right, yeah, just change the dependency for the file manager | 21:53 |
| vthompson | Cool, glad to hear it'll be transparent | 21:53 |
| vthompson | rsalveti, thanks for your help! | 21:53 |
| rsalveti | it should, if not, just ping me | 21:53 |
| vthompson | I'll check the manifests once the update is in the PPA | 21:54 |
| vthompson | On a related note, how do we get music-app to get built into the images? | 21:55 |
| rsalveti | guess first thing is getting an approval from mhall119 | 22:00 |
| rsalveti | and popey | 22:01 |
| rsalveti | then just create a bug against https://launchpad.net/touch-preview-images and assign it to me or sergiusens | 22:01 |
| vthompson | rsalveti, gotcha thanks | 22:03 |
| mhall119 | vthompson: rsalveti: is it functionally ready enough to be included in the daily device images? | 22:07 |
| mhall119 | I don't have audio on my N7, so I can't verify | 22:07 |
| mhall119 | we should ship some sample music too | 22:08 |
| vthompson | I'd like someone to test on a device to verify that it is... | 22:10 |
| vthompson | It is usable in my sandbox | 22:11 |
| vthompson | We still have yet to go through a good iteration of design work, however. The app looks nice, but if we'd rather not change things dramatically on users/testers/early adopters, then we could wait. | 22:12 |
| Saviq | rsalveti, the black thumbnails is something that will be improved / resolved with the switch to Mir, not working on it now | 22:22 |
| Saviq | rsalveti, empty icons are fixed in libunity already | 22:22 |
| Saviq | rickspencer3, ↑ | 22:22 |
| mhall119 | Saviq: \o/ | 22:23 |
| rsalveti | Saviq: awesome | 22:23 |
| rickspencer3 | thanks Saviq | 22:23 |
| Saviq | "not working on it now" == "not for surfaceflinger" | 22:23 |
| mhall119 | Saviq: any idea when we'll have working "Frequently used" section or ability to drag apps to/from the Launcher? | 22:23 |
| Saviq | mhall119, freq is relatively easy, we need to start reporting data to zeitgeist (we decided for the upstart job to do it) | 22:24 |
| Saviq | mhall119, then pick it up from there | 22:24 |
| Saviq | mhall119, drag'n'drop... we can do it within the shell relatively easy as well, mzanetti is working on that within the launcher, should be relatively easy to add dragging from dash to launcher | 22:25 |
| Saviq | mhall119, but then we have to see whether the system-wide d'n'd support in the platform happens in the mean time | 22:26 |
| Saviq | mhall119, which would be better to use, because it wouldn't be something internal to the shell | 22:27 |
| Saviq | mhall119, and would get us closer to d'n'd items onto launcher shortcuts | 22:27 |
| Saviq | to open | 22:27 |
| Saviq | mhall119, that said, that's not something we're actively working on now, but it's on various TODOs | 22:28 |
| mhall119 | Saviq: ok, thanks | 22:32 |
| mfisch | ChickenCutlass: is this coming from hybris? It's new in powerd (for me): =============> Skipping libc.so | 22:32 |
| mhall119 | I used to have a patched launcher file, but it was such a pain to replace it every time I phablet-flased | 22:32 |
| Saviq | mhall119, oh, that's gonna happen quicker | 22:34 |
| Saviq | mhall119, it's gonna be a dconf-key away | 22:34 |
| Saviq | mhall119, mzanetti and Wellark are working on that ~now | 22:35 |
| rsalveti | mfisch: yes, and was removed with latest hybris already | 22:36 |
| mfisch | rsalveti: thx | 22:36 |
| mhall119 | Saviq: ah, that would be nice, so it'll persist as long as /home/phablet does | 22:52 |
| Saviq | mhall119, yup, so phablet-flash should be fine | 22:52 |
| Saviq | mhall119, only -b would be bad | 22:52 |
| Saviq | mhall119, but then the flipped container image is coming, when -b becomes only a first-time exercise | 22:52 |
| mhall119 | ah, nice, Android updates without over-writing Ubuntu stuff | 22:55 |
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