=== Aww is now known as ishanyxy === ishanyxy is now known as Aww === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam === CarlosNeyPastor_ is now known as CarlosNeyPastor === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [02:32] anybody else up in here have a TAB 10.1 WIFI (P7510) === _salem is now known as salem_ [02:35] djjeff, I had one :) [02:35] grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr [02:36] I figured I'd say something rather than leave you hanging here. [02:36] I have Ubuntu Touch loaded on my TAB 10.1 [02:36] followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices/p4wifi [02:36] I can adb shell and get root [02:37] but nothing shows up on my screen [02:37] its black [02:39] I guess its cause I have a TAB 10.1 from CANADA [02:39] hmm [02:39] I tried loading up UK version of Ice Cream Sandwhich and my screen would not come on at all [02:40] had to ODIN reflash canadian version of ICS 4.0.4 [02:40] to get the samsung logo to show up === RobbyF_ is now known as RobbyF [02:41] are you using the latest version of ubuntu touch? daily image? [02:41] I think there was a graphics issue on tablets WAYS back on dev preview [02:44] I used http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/saucy-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip [02:44] I'm not able to help you out sorry. someone here will. gets popular in here around 12 hours from now [02:48] I guess I should try the raring build [02:48] see what happens [02:59] oh neat [02:59] chromium is on the latest saucy build [03:32] My friend wants to install Qt 5.1 and try out the new stuff for Android development. I told him to add these repos: ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-proper ppa:canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-beta-proper [03:32] is that correct? sufficient? [03:32] I was particularly wondering if there exists an ubuntu-sdk-team repo that corresponds with qt5-beta-proper === salem_ is now known as _salem [04:13] Hello [04:16] Can anyone help me figure out how to update the time on the phone from Terminal in OS X? [04:17] When I try to connect via ssh it says Permission denied [04:20] Anyone there? [05:15] OMFG I got it WORKING!!!!!!!!!!! [05:15] I have Ubuntu touch on my TAB 10.1 [05:35] djjeff, :-) [05:43] no wifi no ssh no apt-get? [05:43] its a start tho [05:45] djjeff, there is wifi support [05:45] there is also ssh via the terminal and apt-get :-) [05:45] not on the build im using :( [05:46] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/raring/monthly-06/raring-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip [06:14] hi all === jppiiroinen is now known as jppiiroinen|afk [07:26] good morning === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [07:34] GM === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik [07:38] dholbach, good morning my german friend! ;-) [07:38] salut mon ami français - comment ça va? [07:45] Hi all! [07:46] please, do you know where I can find Qt Design 5? [07:46] dholbach, ca va bien, et toi ? [07:46] PaoloRotolo, hey, do you mean qtcreator? or what is qt design? === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [07:48] seb128, oui, ça va - heureux que le weekend est proche :) [07:48] ;-) [07:49] seb128, I found online "qt desing 4" to design qt interfaces. [07:49] Hi dholbach :) [07:49] ciao PaoloRotolo [07:49] :D [07:50] ok, dunno about "qt design", qtcreator include tools to build interfaces though [07:51] seb128, I know, but when I download the source of an Ubuntu Touch app like "Weather", i can't find anything in the design tab. [07:52] I don't know if people use visual tools to build the UI for those, or just write qml code === jppiiroinen|afk is now known as jppiiroinen === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [09:04] tmoenicke: Hi, would you have a couple of moments to answer some queries i have? [09:07] veebers: sure [09:07] tmoenicke: would a hangout be alright? [09:10] veebers: yep [09:10] sec [09:15] veebers: calling you === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [09:33] hi to all [09:33] i like to port the ubuntu touch to new hardware [09:33] I need some info about porting [09:39] 'lo :) [09:46] does anyone have a work-around for when you boot up and apps don't start up (i.e. show blank screen)? [09:47] TobyK: sounds like a bug [09:47] my Nexus 7 is unusable 'cos I can't get past this [09:47] krato: we have a porting page on the wiki linked from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch [09:47] TobyK: I hear it sometimes "fixes" after a reboot [09:48] popey: yes, I actually added that comment to the bug, but I've rebooted about 12 times now and it's still not working [09:48] ☹ [09:49] getting desparate now, tried deleting all my configs from home directory, killing anything and everything, etc. [09:50] FYI the bug is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/1191144 [09:50] Launchpad bug 1191144 in touch-preview-images "On most boots, apps do not run" [Undecided,Confirmed] [09:50] I can help debug this issue if someone wants me to try anything :) [09:52] A recent change in some lower level component broke our autopilot. If the shell is killed and we run our test suite only the first test passes all others fail [09:53] it seems the app textures are not destroyed and it remains visible on screen even if the process is killed. [09:54] mzanetti Saviq ^ [09:55] om26er: right.. I've seen that too yesterday [09:55] tests pass if the shell is running with screen unlocked, but if the shell is killed (phablet-test-run -n) tests fail [09:55] Saviq: do you know where that comes from? [09:55] greyback might be able to help here ^ [09:56] greyback: we have the issue that we can't run autopilot tests for apps when the shell is running because they are started minimized [09:56] greyback: now, stopping the shell is not an option any more because apps are stopped/hidden/whatever too [09:57] om26er: FYI, if we would have autopilot tests running on the phone in CI this change would not have made it into the release [09:57] mzanetti, you are right, we are working on that. [09:58] well we have the jobs there its just a matter of hooking it to -ci jobs [09:58] om26er: mzanetti: this is to test shell? [09:58] greyback: no, the apps mainly [09:59] mzanetti: would a testing shell not be best then? One which does not ensure newly opening apps go in from of shell, when shell doesn't expect it [10:00] s/from/front/ [10:00] greyback: actually it would be best to run them with the real shell... but I opened a but in december that apps launched from command line should be opened in foreground and I seem to be alone with that opinion since then [10:01] mzanetti, om26er no, first I've heard [10:01] mzanetti, om26er ah [10:01] mzanetti, om26er, that should be fixed in the most recent shell [10:02] Saviq, is that not released yet ? [10:02] om26er, yes it is [10:02] Saviq: I flashed yesterday evening. [10:02] Saviq: I can see this behaviour since then [10:02] let me try to flash again [10:03] interesting, let me see [10:03] mzanetti, and if you go `webbrowser-app --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/webbrowser-app.desktop` [10:03] Saviq, last one from phablet-team ppa is 33hours hold, and I have that installed [10:03] om26er, and if you do ↑ that the app launches minimized? [10:03] Saviq: then its minimized in the apps lens [10:03] launches full-screen here... [10:04] Saviq: without the --dekstop_file_hint its not showing up at all [10:04] mzanetti, yes, that's required [10:04] Saviq: yeah... I think there is some certain circumstance where it actually works... but not always [10:04] Saviq, no in that case it opens in the front [10:04] it even focuses over a previous app here [10:05] * Saviq reads again [10:05] Saviq, as I said if the shell is running and greeter is unlocked tests run fine.. but if the shell is killed they don't [10:05] rsalveti, did you have a chance to test manta yesterday ? [10:05] mzanetti, your translation was wrong ;P [10:05] mzanetti, it's when the shell _isn't_ running [10:09] Saviq, om26er: this seems to work now mostly [10:09] I just launched 3 apps from command line and the first 2 of them actually showed up in foreground [10:09] If there are already minimized apps running, running another one from the command line brings the wrong one to the foreground [10:10] om26er, I can't reproduce, I stopped the shell (and removed from /etc/device-services) [10:10] om26er, and all the apps I start / stop go away [10:11] om26er, and well, it's unrelated to the shell - it'd have to be the app manager in qtubuntu [10:12] om26er: anyways, in general you should work towards the goal that the shell is running during the autopilot tests [10:13] om26er: so instead of using -n you probably want to import the shells autopilot helpers and call unlock the greeter before running the apps tests [10:13] Saviq, right, i see the issue on two devices, you have the latest image ? [10:14] Saviq, who should I contact for qtubuntu ? [10:14] om26er, ricmm [10:14] mzanetti, can you file a bug for the wrong app comes to front issue? [10:14] Saviq: sure [10:14] mzanetti, there is a way to unlock the shell? I though that needed some help from mir et al [10:15] om26er, just drag from the right :) [10:15] om26er: lp:unity/8.0/tests/autopilot/unity8/tests/helpers.py: unlock_greeter() [10:15] mzanetti, it would definitely make more sense to run our tests while the shell is running as that's our target [10:16] om26er: if you want to reuse that you might need to depend on unity8-autopilot in the app's autopilot packages [10:16] om26er: also I'm not sure how to connect to 2 different autopilot interfaces in 1 test suite (the shell and the app). you might want to talk to veebers or thomi about that [10:21] Saviq: what component is it actually that I should report the bug for? [10:22] mzanetti, it's most probably the app manager, so touch-preview-images and assign ricmm [10:22] Saviq: cheers === SkavenXXI-[OFF] is now known as SkavenXXI [10:45] katie: ping [10:46] mzanetti, hello [10:46] katie: lp:~mzanetti/unity/8-edge-hinting-onPressed and lp:~mzanetti/unity/8-edge-hinting-onReleased [10:47] katie: if you care about my opinion, the onReleased feels totally weird to me... I like the onPressed the most. second place is the one in the current image [10:47] mzanetti, ooh.. great [10:47] mzanetti, i'll have a look === SkavenXXI is now known as SkavenXXI-[OFF] === mmrazik|afk is now known as mmrazik [11:24] bah, could io be any slower on grouper? [11:24] * seb128 trying to build packages there === Tassadar is now known as Guest8868 === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [11:35] When I get a sms, the phone are really slow until I manage to red the message. also the notification symbol just flashing and shows nothing in the message dropdown. Have to go to phone-conversations and open the tekst to get the notification symbol stop flashing or read the message. Is this a known bug? running mako. [11:35] read* === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [11:57] seb128: grouper I think is the worse of the lot to be honest :( [11:59] seb128: from what I see it seems it is the least well supported ubuntu touch demo devise [11:59] well, in that case I just use it as a buildd for testing a bug [12:03] . [12:04] I almost have wifi working on the P7510 TAB 10.1 [12:12] Ubuntu Touch Contacts | http://askubuntu.com/q/311016 [12:20] there is a list with what is working and what is not? [12:20] I'm reading the changelog but [12:21] i'm not a developer so is a little bit confuse for me === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback === om26er_ is now known as om26er [12:37] * xnox ponders if my nexus7 is screwed or not..... volume down key doesn't work. [12:37] mzanetti, I had internet issues. My question is, to be able to unlock the screen would we need to restart the shell in testability ? [12:38] it booted, hope is not lost =) [12:38] om26er: yes [12:39] mzanetti, the current unity shell is always able to introspect, is that something also considered for the QML version? [12:39] for example to test unity 7 there is no need to restart it, it just works [12:40] om26er: I'd say no... I think having the testability always enabled imposes a security risk too... especially since its possible to invoke slots through autopilot-qt [12:41] mzanetti, ack === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:02] popey: can you help test https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/clock-fontsizes [13:02] sure thing! [13:02] popey: and let me know if the fonts sizes look ok on the phone [13:03] thnx [13:04] np [13:09] ChickenCutlass, ogra_, when updating an N10 from Android, do I need to 'phablet-flash -b' before 'phablet-flash --flipped' ? [13:09] rtg_, yes [13:09] ack, thanks [13:09] rtg_, n10 doessnt work with flipped yet [13:09] oops [13:09] bummer [13:10] ogra_, I thought we fixed that [13:10] guess not [13:10] what device _does_ work ? [13:10] oh crud, i can't take screenshots anymore now I've got a flipped image [13:10] ChickenCutlass, well, i havent heard back from rsalveti yet ... and even then we dont have the udev rules for getting SF up yet [13:10] rtg_, n4 and original nexus [13:11] rtg_, all other nexus devices do [13:11] popey: oh [13:11] ooh, maybe I can [13:11] popey: but that's ok..I just need your opinion about it [13:11] i dont have an n10 and the ones we have in the team are in a different TZ, that makes everything a bit slow [13:11] ogra_, even N7 ? I thought grouper was having issues. [13:11] rtg_, not since the last kernel upload [13:11] ah, cool. I actually fixed something :) [13:12] note though that the current image is broken (took 4h to get the fix in the archive) i just started a new build ... wait 2h for a fixed image [13:12] with your clear directions of course. [13:12] well, I'm flashing my N10 to begin with [13:13] well, getting some feedback if it gets to an adb session with the new iimage would help [13:13] nik90: having trouble actually starting it... one mo [13:14] uhm, i flashed latest and now contacts are not showing up, even the ones i add manually [13:14] oh, same as the question in ask :) [13:14] ogra_: why does search not work on the home lens? [13:15] heh, ask one of the UI guys ... i.e. Saviq [13:15] or ted [13:15] davmor2, 'cause it's not the real home scope yet [13:15] Saviq: ah okay that makes sense then [13:15] davmor2, we're going to make it real soon [13:16] davmor2, i.e. it's fake data currently (and not even a fake scope, as is the case for video and music) [13:16] nik90: ok, got it running.. what do you want to know? [13:17] can you check the font size of the current world locations [13:17] my personal feeling was that it looks too big, however I wasnt sure how they look on the phone [13:17] so it's not possible to search for installed apps either? eg, i installed the terminal app, how do launch or even get a shortcut to it on the screen? [13:17] is it the same size as the word "Search" in the button? [13:17] it looks big but nicely readable [13:18] nik90: none of the cities wrap or go off the screen [13:18] even long ones like Washington DC, United States [13:18] Or my fave Yamoussoukro, Ivory Coast [13:19] nik90: http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-06-21-141732.png [13:19] nik90: anything else? [13:20] popey: nope. The screenshot helped [13:20] nik90: you know the buttons in the stopwatch are off screen? [13:20] popey: yes, there is a bug report on it [13:20] thought so [13:20] popey: I have asked renato to fix it who is very busy at the moment [13:20] ok [13:20] popey: besides with the new visual design, that should also be fixed [13:20] of course [13:20] I got the desigsn this morning [13:21] yay [13:21] will start implementing soon :) === Guest8868 is now known as tassadar_ === datagutt_ is now known as datagutt [13:36] is it normal that ofonod is constantly at 20% cpu? [13:38] hi, i was following the tutorial given on this page ->http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/tutorials/getting-started/currency-converter-phone-app/ [13:38] and the last point mentioned [13:40] where we can view and use ComponentsShowcase.qml [13:40] that part doesn't work out for me [13:40] the ubuntu-ui-toolkit folder that i have [13:40] has only examples [13:41] any ideas? [13:41] dorsatum: under examples is ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gallery [13:41] that's where the showcase has been moved to [13:42] qmlscene ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gallery.qml [13:42] should get it running for you [13:43] http://theravingrick.blogspot.com.br/2013/06/the-social-phone.html mentions 'Search the application lens' but i can't find out how to do that [13:43] is this something that's on unity-next but not on the image perhaps? [13:50] sidnei, you can search it now, go to apps view, click the search text in the top panel [13:51] oooh, now it works [13:52] i was trying to drag down instead of tap [13:53] sergiusens: ping === _salem is now known as salem_ [13:55] sergiusens: you're the reporter of https://bugs.launchpad.net/phone-app/+bug/1089431 ; did you restest this with a recent version of ofono? [13:55] Launchpad bug 1089431 in phone-app "[telephony] SMS send error checking non existent" [High,In progress] === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [13:57] mzanetti, wouldn't it make more sense to have the unlock screen thing in autopilot itself? else each app will have to implement it in its tests. [13:57] sidnei, interesting, not an unreasonable expectation [13:58] mzanetti, also jcollado have been able to execute multiple apps in a test suite, though not sure if that's the way we'd like to have in our apps: lp:~javier.collado/ubuntu-test-cases/memory_usage_measurement [14:00] pmcgowan: it's also confusing that you have to be on the 'apps' view, and it doesn't work on the 'home' view for example [14:09] ogra_, whats the story on 'adbd cannot run as root in production builds' ? I've done 'sudo fastboot oem unlock' and 'adb kill-server; adb start-server'. [14:09] this is on an N10 with stock Android 4.2.2 [14:09] you should have done the adb start-server with sudo [14:10] iirc [14:10] ogra_, no joy [14:10] and indeed you need to enable adb in the android UI [14:10] usb debugging etc [14:10] done that with USB debugging [14:11] did it no pop up a question in the screen if you want to allow your PC to connect ? [14:11] yep, said yes [14:12] I'll try disabling that, then restarting the adb server [14:12] hmm, that should work ... [14:12] drat, same deal [14:13] did you get any popup on the PC side ? [14:13] popup for what ? [14:13] iirc i had that with the latest android version for some devices [14:13] a gtk popup telling you about the device being connected with a yes/no question [14:14] I do not appear to have any popups hiding on my desktop [14:14] i havent had that on all devices, but on some [14:15] Hi, can anyone tell me if Caldav connectivity is on the wishlist for the calendar app? Or is this not the right place to ask? [14:16] is not possible to run adb shell from windows is it? [14:18] I mean after flashing [14:18] why wouldnt it ? [14:18] as long as you have an adb.exe it should work as it did before [14:18] adb shell error: device not found [14:19] well, adbd is definitely running on all images ... try to re-plug [14:20] sounds like a windows side issue [14:20] maybe driver ? [14:20] probably === jppiiroinen is now known as jppiiroinen|afk [14:22] should i install from the SDK manager? [14:22] androids SDK manager ? [14:22] nope [14:23] from where ? [14:24] i thought you had flashed already ? [14:25] yes i'm running touch now [14:25] i just want to access the shell [14:25] phone shell [14:26] well, how did you install ? [14:26] adb push and flashed with cwm [14:26] and which image did you flash [14:27] (download url would be helpful) [14:27] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/saucy-preinstalled-armel+mako.zip [14:28] and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/daily-preinstalled/current/saucy-preinstalled-phablet-armhf.zip [14:28] ok [14:28] that still uses android as the base so the device side is 100% identical to what you had on android [14:28] there is no reason for adb to not give yu access ... [14:29] but touch is runing [2013-06-21 11:29.13] /cygdrive/c/ubuntu [T801628.AK0033640] â†’ fastboot.exe devices v â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â”€â” [14:31] weird [14:32] with ubuntu runing on phone I should be able to access right? [14:33] fastboot ??? [14:33] fastboot is accessing the device in bootloader mode only [14:33] you want adb [14:33] just to see if i can see the device [14:33] listed [14:34] you wont se it with fastboot [14:34] adb devices also [14:35] Exclamation mark on device manager [14:35] well, i'd blame windows [14:36] om26er: yeah... could make sense. could you please discuss that with thomi? [14:48] ogra_: fixed [14:48] what was it ? [14:48] just forced to use the driver [14:49] on the device manager [14:49] option select driver from the list [14:50] and select Android adb interface [14:54] ogra_: how can I send a text msg? [14:56] go to the apps lens, tap the looking glass, search for friends [14:56] i think thats also handling SMS [14:57] (though dont rely on me, i have no SIM card in my phones [14:57] ) [15:03] thansk [15:03] I received a new msg [15:03] but is just blinking [15:04] i can't find the text anywere === alan_g is now known as alan_g|tea === alan_g|tea is now known as alan_g [15:11] esigolo, it will be in the conversation tab of the phone app, the messaging pulldown is temporarily busted [15:16] pmcgowan: thansk [15:32] Saviq, i have a feature request, unity shell should only support one running instance, if a new instance is called it should first kill the already running and start new. how does it feel ? [15:32] ogra_, so any other ideas on udev fix for rmnet? [15:33] I tried your rule, and no go... [15:33] phablet NetworkManager[1079]: SCPlugin-Ifupdown: device added (path: /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsic_host/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.5/net/rmnet_usb0, iface: rmnet_usb0): no ifupdown configuration found. [15:33] Jun 20 23:39:59 ubuntu-phablet NetworkManager[1079]: failed to allocate link cache: (-10) Operation not supported [15:33] Jun 20 23:39:59 ubuntu-phablet NetworkManager[1079]: (rmnet_usb0): carrier is OFF [15:33] awe, thats what i'm seeing on flipped [15:33] and that's bad [15:33] there should be no rmnet_usb* devices [15:33] now i wonder what is that link cache it talks about :) [15:33] there aren't in the non-flipped image [15:34] Jun 20 22:42:28 ubuntu-phablet NetworkManager[504]: Policy set '3g' (rmnet_usb0) as default for IPv4 routing and DNS. [15:34] ogra_, NM is trying to use these devices because they appear to be eth devices [15:34] thats what i have in non flippe [15:34] d [15:34] in your log [15:34] don't pay attention to the NM logs [15:34] heh, well, you attached them :) [15:35] ogra_, yes... to illustrate that in non-flipped, NM sees rmnet0...3, and ignores [15:35] what i noticed though ... [15:35] in flipped, it sees those and ignores, but then also sees rmnet_usb0...3 too [15:35] root@ubuntu-phablet:/# cat /proc/393/mounts|grep sysfs [15:35] sysfs /sys sysfs rw,relatime 0 0 [15:35] root@ubuntu-phablet:/# mount |grep sysfs [15:35] sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev) [15:35] root@ubuntu-phablet:/# [15:35] and tries to use them [15:35] we do mount /sys differently [15:35] whatever we're doing, it's not correct [15:35] ;D [15:36] right, so probably try to add a /sys entry to your fstab (that will override the default) [15:36] with just rw,relatime as options [15:37] I'm not sure how that fixes things... [15:37] given how weird android is, i can imagine the nodev blocks someting [15:37] (using devices from /sys instead of /dev) [15:38] beyond that, let me go through init.rc of mako [15:38] For the contributor agreement, what if I don't have a "Canonical Project Manager or contact"? [15:50] pwd [15:50] * awe sighs [15:55] Joe_B: what do you plan on contributing to? [15:56] mhall119: to start with I was just going to browse the sdk and take a look around, so this isn't something I need to deal with immediately. [15:57] Are there plans for a wallpaper changer? support for live wallpapers? I could maybe help with the first. [15:57] wallpaper changer I believe is on the feature list [15:57] I don't know about live ones [15:58] since it's really just a background for the dash [16:07] om26er, found it [16:07] om26er, it should be handled via upstart [16:08] om26er, but then it could fail to start if it finds an instance already [16:08] om26er, file a bug against unity/8.0 please? [16:09] Saviq, yes will do. if the shell is already running it should be killed and a new instance shall be started. that's pretty much what we have in desktop unity right now [16:09] om26er, only with --replace [16:09] om26er, by default it would just fail to start [16:09] om26er, but that, IMO, should be handled via upstart [16:09] om26er, i.e. restart unity8 [16:10] om26er, I don't want to build such functionality into unity8, hardly feels like the right place... [16:11] Saviq, so what's the final word should we have a bug for unity/8.0 regarding this or nor ? [16:11] *not [16:11] om26er, bug, yes please [16:12] om26er, how it's gonna get solved is a different issue [16:12] om26er, but bug, yes, please [16:14] Saviq, bug 1193412 [16:14] bug 1193412 in Unity "Starting unity from terminal should restart it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1193412 [16:15] though it went to https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/ [16:15] om26er, yeah, there's no way to only target unity/8.0 [16:19] greyback, ricmm, can you please comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1193412 whether what I wrote makes sense? [16:19] Launchpad bug 1193412 in Unity 8.0 "Starting unity from terminal should restart it" [Undecided,Confirmed] [16:21] Saviq: yep, looks ok. [16:23] awe, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5787218/ here are some more devices that need radio ownership [16:24] * ogra_ hopes he has alll now [16:24] awe, see if that fixes it [16:25] In the qtcreator, why is it supported platforms seems to list only desktop for everything? is there an example touch app in there? [16:25] ogra_, it's not radio ownership that's the issue. [16:25] I'll give it a try, but am not optimistic [16:26] I'm also going to re-flash non-flipped to do some more poking around [16:26]