[02:21] <rick_h> jcastro: pics up for ya http://www.flickr.com/photos/7508761@N03/sets/72157634236817199/
[02:32] <jrwren_> that is a HUGE camper
[02:32] <jrwren_> and fancy.
[02:32] <rick_h> it's a baby, 23ft :)
[02:32] <rick_h> not like those 30ft monsters lol
[13:48] <snap-l> I think I've fallen in love with ctrl-p
[13:48] <snap-l> Or, more accurately, rick_h is right
[13:48] <rick_h> boom!
[13:48] <snap-l> I wish I would just accept this. It'd save so much time
[13:49] <rick_h> snap-l: http://paste.mitechie.com/show/UdfEe9wEbwswYnNEeu6Y/ was yesterday :)
[13:50] <snap-l> rick_h: Hahahaha
[13:50] <rick_h> snap-l: so you're not alone. Sometimes there's a method to my madness, other times just mad
[13:51] <snap-l> It'd be nice if you would label them. :)
[13:51] <rick_h> hey, I'm part mad...how can I tell?
[13:51] <snap-l> Coder Advisory: rick_h is mad.
[13:51] <rick_h> but yea, <3 me some ctrl-p
[13:51] <snap-l> Especially for Pylons / Pyramid
[13:52] <rick_h> just remember the F5 refresh the list of files
[13:52] <snap-l> Still like Nerdtree, but if I'm really lazy, ctrl-p is there for me.
[13:52] <rick_h> and has to be open to use it
[13:52] <rick_h> yea, more pixels == good. I still pop open nerdtree sometimes but usually I know where I'm heading

[13:53] <snap-l> yep
[13:53] <jrwren_> any of ya'll interested in SEMjs?
[13:53] <brousch> eh?
[13:53] <jrwren_> http://www.meetup.com/SEM-JS/events/115369672/
[13:54] <snap-l> I wish I were doing more with Javascript to want to go to that
[13:54] <rick_h> jrwren_: yes and ugh drive to AA, and ugh never will be able to make a meeting on mondays
[15:20] <snap-l> ‘Ubuntu’ is the convergent
[15:20] <snap-l> platform being used across phones, tablets, desktops, and TVs. ‘Ubuntu
[15:20] <snap-l> One’ is a collection of services (e.g. file sync, music, photos etc)
[15:20] <snap-l> that plug into Ubuntu. We are simply unifying these different services
[15:20] <snap-l> with the same account name.
[15:21] <snap-l> Wow, marketing must've spent an afternoon for that description. :)
[15:55] <snap-l> greg-g: http://www.kickstarter.com/blog/we-were-wrong
[16:01] <snap-l> I'm glad they are clarifying their policies
[17:18] <greg-g> wikimedia server porn: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikimedia_servers_in_2013
[17:18] <greg-g> snap-l: yeah, just read the title/tweet. Seems legit
[17:37] <snap-l> greg-g: yeah, and one of the folks who I've backed several times on Kickstarter mentioned the decision and how Kickstarter could have blown it
[17:37] <snap-l> (during approval)
[17:37] <snap-l> I didn't realize how much editorial control they have over the projects they pick, so I too was wrong.
[17:38] <snap-l> regardless, still friends? :)
[17:40] <greg-g> snap-l: yeppers!
[17:40] <greg-g> :)
[17:57] <snap-l> Yay!
[17:57] <snap-l> Also in other yay news, Cryogen's album funded.
[17:57] <snap-l> This gives me a happy. :)
[17:58] <greg-g> coolio
[18:44] <jrwren_> need advise for python websocket server
[18:44] <rick_h> twisted?
[18:44] <jrwren_> good advise.
[18:45] <rick_h> I think Juju's websocket server when it was pyjuju was done in twisted. Trying to check
[18:46] <rick_h> only experience I've got though. I know that when we mocked one up for testing our code on the front end we used tornado as it was simpler to get going for pure-test purposes
[18:46] <jrwren_> no worries, I'm just spiking something. if I can pip install twisted on this old server, all will be good.
[18:47] <rick_h> jrwren_: I'd just use tornado then. There's a ton of simple demos out there for it and should be good enough for a quick spike
[18:47] <rick_h> http://mbed.org/cookbook/Websockets-Server for example
[18:48] <jrwren_> i guess I could just ajax lp every second.
[19:09] <brousch> jrwren_: There will be a talk at PyOhio about diesel. Some of the reviewers were really into it http://diesel.io/
[19:12] <Blazeix> man, i've run into two people this week that didn't see anything wrong with "base64 encrypting" data.
[19:12] <jrwren_> did you say "that isn't encryption" ?
[19:12] <Blazeix> if i run into a third i might just call it quits and go live on top of mountain
[19:12] <jrwren_> becuase that is the first right response.
[19:12] <Blazeix> yeah, the first one was a consultant, and i explained it nicely to him.
[19:13] <Blazeix> the second one was a coworker, i was slightly more terse.
[19:13] <jrwren_> :(
[19:22] <snap-l> Just because you can't read it quickly doesn't mean the computer can't
[19:23] <snap-l> I fear if you introduced them to "uuencoding" they'd think it was some sort of caesar cipher worthy of usage.
[19:26] <jrwren_> lol
[19:42] <greg-g> ugh, headache part of the day
[19:44] <greg-g> so, who all wants to just encrypt everything so that the NSA makes a backup copy of it for you?
[19:44] <greg-g> 1) encrypt all data on harddrive
[19:44] <greg-g> 2) send it via some ATT router to some other server you own
[19:45] <greg-g> 3) now you have 2 backups!
[19:47] <snap-l> GOd, I don't understand how people can say they hate CDs
[19:47] <greg-g> this is interesting, thoughts? http://coffitivity.com/
[19:47] <snap-l> Especially if you work for a RADIO STATION
[19:47] <greg-g> summary: background noise you play under your own music as it is supposed to help you concentrate if you're in a quiet place (home)
[19:47] <greg-g> ie: pretend you're at a coffee shop
[19:47] <greg-g> snap-l: dunno 'bout that, seems weird
[19:48] <greg-g> it's like, apparently wave form science isn't real
[19:48] <snap-l> Well, it's some college radio station that overruns my show on mi.fm
[19:49] <snap-l> I guess if you treat your CDs like shit, yeah, they won't work well
[19:49] <greg-g> CD -> FLAC -> encrypt -> see above -> 2 backups!
[19:50] <snap-l> Rightyo
[19:50] <greg-g> :)
[19:50] <greg-g> sorry, sometimes I get a joke and I don't let go of it
[19:50] <snap-l> Yeah, I've never ever done that
[19:50] <greg-g> like, I've been over using this one in WMF related channels:
[19:50] <greg-g> <audio src="sad_trombone.ogg">
[19:51] <greg-g> I almost want to make an irssi alias for it
[19:51] <greg-g> I type it out each time :)
[19:53] <snap-l> http://tomarayascream.com/ :)
[19:57] <Blazeix> self closing tags or bust
[19:58] <greg-g> should I be putting a />?
[19:58] <Blazeix> you don't have to, it's perfectly fine without it
[19:58] <snap-l> greg-g: They're the skinny jeans of tags
[19:59] <Blazeix> but i still put them out of some misguided xhtml habits
[19:59] <greg-g> heh
[20:01] <snap-l> I love it when I c/p code that is supposed to be working, and find a bug that apparently was never triggered
[20:10] <widox> greg-g: yeah, I like to use that when I'm at home
[20:10] <widox> to quite bothers me
[21:18] <jrwren_> maybe I don't grok the GIL
[21:19] <jrwren_> python threads dont block each ohter unless they are executing python code, right?
[21:19] <jrwren_> if i'm blocking on io wait, other threads will run?
[21:37] <jrwren_> oh nope, it works, perf is just so bad it is a joke.
[23:35] <snap-l> Yeah, I/O is going to kill you.