=== space is now known as Guest18915 === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za === Guest18915 is now known as Spaceghost === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [06:25] good morning [06:41] guten morgen [06:48] yo [06:49] hi superfly and others [06:49] yo HawkiesZA [06:53] hi Kilos [06:57] good morning superfly HawkiesZA Kilos [06:57] that was getting very strange [06:57] hi there magespawn [06:57] what [07:00] yo [07:00] hi trender [07:00] mornings [07:36] come in say good morning and no response, and nobody else show up for the nest 20 or min [07:36] hehe [07:37] felt like i was in a ghost town, i was thinking the whole net was broken or something cause there was no activity on any of the channels i am in [07:37] people in this channel dont talk much [07:37] sometimes im away by the sheep or cooking or something [07:38] haha i often check to see the connection still up [07:38] Maaz, coffee on [07:38] * Maaz washes some mugs [07:38] is a good way [07:39] small channel this [07:39] ya and everyone working mostly [07:39] my last irc channel was pumping at least 100 mense or more [07:40] on a bad day [07:40] its because this is a basic ubuntu help channel not a hangout [07:41] i never had a hangout either man [07:41] we where punting tech wares before you new the net existed on 33k modems [07:41] ah [07:42] *were [07:42] *knew [07:42] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [07:42] *finger* [07:42] Maaz, ty [07:42] You are welcome Kilos [07:42] IRC is a dying medium [07:42] kookamoer: a pity you didn't learn how to spell [07:43] ( | ) << superfly jerks like you with your smart alek pissing contest remarks really make irc special for everyone....take your ego elsewhere jerkoff [07:48] kookamoer: I suggest you take your ego elsewhere. I correct everyone, you can ask the others. You were the one that pulled the finger. [07:50] just try and get along mate...i never yanked on your chain to begin with [07:53] superfly, is our built in spell checker [07:53] no fighting here [07:53] grrr [07:53] hehe its all good man [08:37] hi psyatw [08:39] hi Kilos [08:39] you got a workaround psyatw ? [08:44] Kilos, a workaround for what? [08:44] I am using SSL to connect with Windows Pidgin here at work [08:44] being online from work [08:44] ah [08:45] yes, they haven' t blocked this yet [08:45] hehe [08:45] but they are restricting me in any way they can [08:46] eish [08:47] I don't have rights to install software on my laptop anymore [08:47] they want all your time [08:47] so I can't even run virtualbox on my desktop anymore [08:47] oh, right [08:47] soon when I find another job they will get none of my time, they can be sure of that [08:48] maybe that was a bad move to there hey [08:49] peeps dont understand that a happy employee gives more of himself to the company [08:49] no, it wasn't a bad move [08:49] because I came here for myself [08:49] in order to succeed in whatever way I can [08:49] this job is just a way to get there [08:50] stepping stones are good [08:51] indeed [09:01] Goeiemôre [09:01] môre inetpro [09:02] hi inetpro [09:07] vrek koud [09:10] Kilos: eintlik redelik vandag as jy my vra [09:11] maar miskien het ek nie vanoggend kwaai gevoel nie omdat ek met die kar gery het [09:11] nee man al die buite water was ys [09:11] ya dis hoekom [09:13] ongelukkig kon hulle nie daai band vir my met 'n gator regmaak nie. So ek kry seer vandag. [09:13] eish [09:14] Sal maar moet brood met water eet vir die volgende paar maande [09:14] dis nie lekker nie [09:14] eina [09:25] hi mazal [09:38] More oom Kilos [10:17] inetpro, did they show you why they cant gator it? [10:18] Kilos: it will not be safe in the long run, was a big hit [10:18] if its only a small bubble the damage cant be bad [10:18] the rim also needed repair [10:19] eish [10:19] where is the damage [10:19] how far up the sidewall [10:19] actually, what I didn't see was the inside [10:19] was much worse [10:20] Kilos: well it's fixed now and I got a new tyre [10:21] ya but at crippling cost [10:21] was not worth taking the risk [10:21] lifes are more valuable [10:21] as long as youre sure they didnt just want to sell a new tyre thats ok [10:21] peace of mind is good [10:22] the tyre was only 6 months old, so a new one won't make a massive difference [10:22] just the bank balance taking a big knock, again [10:22] ouch [10:23] will have to work out ways to survive [10:23] ai! [10:23] maybe you can offer me a sheep herding job or so :-) [10:25] lol [11:34] i trade my services for other peoples services instead on money sometimes [11:34] hehe [11:35] got a set of tyres for the golf for computer for the local spares and tyre place [11:39] barter system [11:39] golf tyres 1/4 price of the pros [11:40] not even i think [11:40] about R800 per tyre [11:41] i know those tyres, the safari company uses them [11:58] hrm, afrinic agm starting, this is gonna be rough, god I havent felt this tense in years [12:19] howdy power is off here. [12:19] aw [12:21] one of those things [12:21] yeah power sucks in za [12:23] I rediscovered this little gem: [12:24] http://www.openttd.org/en/ [12:24] http://wiki.openttd.org/OpenTTD [12:24] Proofe that graphics isn't everything [12:24] Hi everyone btw :-) [12:27] hi mazal [12:27] How are things mage_mobile ? [12:29] eskom is off, so not brilliant [12:38] otherwise peachy [12:44] Have a good weekend guys [12:45] Bye [13:01] power is back [13:01] yay [13:52] power up and down like a yoyo [13:52] ai! [14:00] prefects vs. staff hockey [14:00] always good fun [14:01] hehe [14:02] hmm.. [14:02] Maaz, announce Early warning. monday meeitng all of you [14:02] Announcement from Kilos! Early warning. monday meeitng all of you [14:03] inetpro, you gonna warn the twits? [14:03] and G+ [15:19] morning [15:21] later all [15:21] go safw magespawn [15:21] hi kookamoer [15:21] yo [15:21] safe as well magespawn [15:26] JoTraGo, have you joined our mailing list? and you SilverCode ? [15:26] http://bit.ly/MCOujZ [15:27] ubuntu-za@lists.ubuntu.com [16:15] Evening :) [16:16] hi HecticZA [16:16] whats news [16:17] Installed 10.04 and if there is time would like some help to share files and auto mount harddrives? [16:18] automount should be working [16:18] anyway go this route [16:18] pres ctrl+alt+t [16:18] I have 2 harddrives [16:19] okay [16:19] both in the pc? [16:19] yes. Ubunto 0n 80 Gb and then 2TB [16:19] have you updated first of all? [16:19] yes [16:19] then the other one is there ill show you how to find it [16:20] okay [16:20] second icon down on the launcher panel [16:20] home [16:20] k [16:20] wiat i just gotta look [16:21] you will see all drives and partitions on the left [16:21] I don't? [16:21] what you see there? [16:22] Home, Desktop, Downloads, Music, Pics, Vids, File system, Trash and Network [16:23] i see all my drives there and partitions [16:23] ok ctrl+alt+t opened a terminal [16:23] k [16:24] type in there sudo apt-get install synaptic aptitude [16:24] copy paste it in [16:25] that will install 2 things [16:25] synaptic is a package manager [16:25] It is busy with install [16:25] hi Cantide [16:26] ok you know the top left icon is called the dasgh [16:26] dash [16:26] hello :) [16:26] Yes [16:26] thats where you select what you want to open [16:26] cool [16:27] Hi Cantide :) [16:27] once install finish type synaptic in the dash [16:27] hi HecticZA :) [16:28] Okay it is open Kilos [16:28] ok in top right type in auto [16:28] i forget the right stuff to use [16:29] but it will show you all the auto packages there [16:29] okay? [16:29] scroll down one will be auto connect to drives or usbs or something [16:33] i think what you need is udisks [16:33] usbmount? [16:33] but i remember i saw some automount thing some time [16:33] type in usb at the top [16:33] mount unmount usb mass storage devices [16:34] ya trick that [16:34] tick [16:34] then type in udisk and tick that [16:35] udisks [16:36] then tick apply [16:36] there is a "udisks" with a red button next to it? [16:37] right click it [16:37] looks like ubuntu pic I think [16:37] upgrade or reinstall [16:37] red button on the left? [16:38] okay busy with install and reinstall [16:38] actually while you there just tick mark all upgrades [16:39] It looks like the ubuntu logo and it was to the right of the package name. I think it indicated that i was already installed [16:39] that will show if something isnt upgraded [16:40] oh those with that red ubuntu logo are official packages [16:40] are all of them upgrades? or do I click on them to check? [16:40] nope [16:40] its stuff you only tick if you use that program [16:40] Okay there are no upgrades [16:41] cool [16:41] you know about your 4 workspaces? [16:41] I have seen it yes [16:42] you can leave stuff working on one and do other stuff on others [16:42] saves the minimising thing [16:43] Everything is open in 1 work space. Can I move it somehow or do I have to close and open again? [16:43] i havent worked that out yet on old ubuntu you could drag them to other space [16:44] just open next job on another one [16:44] k [16:44] i use 10 workspaces [16:44] hehe [16:44] had to sukkel a while to sort that out [16:45] if you use the workspace switcher you can drag them to other workspaces [16:45] Does not look like I can drag, but not a problem atm [16:45] does yours work? [16:45] ya this new one dont do it anymore [16:45] I does, but not the dragging [16:46] mine does :o [16:46] i'm on 12.04 though... [16:46] i have found how to move things from one to the other yet [16:46] hmm [16:46] what version is everyone else on? [16:46] he is also 12.04 [16:47] cantide help him a bit more please [16:47] Unity? [16:47] or another DE? [16:47] ya [16:48] fresh install [16:48] well, mine works with the dragging once in the workspace switcher [16:48] mine dont [16:48] HecticZA, press the windows key + s [16:48] then click on a window and move it to another workspace.. [16:48] only shows one block with something in [16:48] o_O [16:48] ah [16:49] yeah if you right click an app, you ca send it o a space [16:49] weird.. [16:49] and he dont see his second drive Cantide [16:49] oh yeah, you can do that, too [16:49] I don't see any drive [16:49] are you sure that's not a hardware problem? [16:49] Probably looking at the wrong place [16:50] i see all drives when i click home [16:50] try the Disk Utility app [16:50] you will see all drives in there even if they're not mounted afaik [16:50] Not sure. In Peppermint there was utility app, but I don't see it here [16:50] where is the automount thing [16:50] oh, maybe you need to install it [16:51] okay I typed in the dash area and it is there [16:51] type disk in dash [16:51] disk utility will show if its installed [16:51] hehe [16:51] I see both drives and both rom's [16:52] ok so then its hidden for some reason [16:52] Cantide, fix it [16:52] haha [16:52] oh there is show hidden [16:52] hey, i am a n00b myself :'( [16:52] in that home window [16:53] actually above it in the top taskbar [16:53] It shows my 2TB as free unallocated space? It is full off data? [16:53] under view there should be a show hidden goodie [16:55] Cantide, when i open home i see all my drives and partitions on the left [16:55] so do i [16:55] why dont he? [16:55] idk :( [16:55] it could be that it is not mounted [16:55] which can be done through the disk utility [16:55] tell him how please [16:56] My 80gb with ubuntu shows mounted, but it says my 2TB has no partition :( [16:56] select the drive on the left [16:57] HecticZA, is the drive working? 'o' [16:57] It was before I installed ubuntu? [16:57] :S [16:57] oh [16:57] ah... no -.- [16:57] That doesnt sound good [16:58] fsck it maybe [16:58] maybe [16:58] i don't know exactly, so i don't want to give the wrong advice [16:58] sudo fsck -p i think it was check first [16:58] Unfortunately I have to go now. Will check on the net tomorrow [16:59] superfly, can you give advice please [16:59] ok tomorrow [16:59] *advise [16:59] HecticZA, good luck :/ [16:59] advise is the verb [16:59] oh ya [16:59] advice is the noun [16:59] ah [16:59] you're correcting Kilos, not me :p [16:59] Cantide: yes [16:59] I really don't hope that info is gone, but I was carefull not too touch it [16:59] but he was also right :) [16:59] Anyways thx guys. See tom rrow [17:00] he has to gonow but he installed ubuntu and it doesnt show whats on second drive [17:00] bye HecticZA :) [17:00] Cheers [17:00] cheers [17:01] i wanted to ask what file system is on it [17:02] but Ubuntu picks up pretty much everything >.< [17:02] if Ubuntu doesn't, try partedmagic [17:02] ah [17:02] yeah, what Cantide said [17:02] is that the same as gparted? [17:02] it's a partitioning live cd [17:03] aha [17:03] that's handy [17:06] i also lost what was on a drive once when installing and i think crashkid gave me a fsck command and it found everything again [17:06] fsck -p or -p [17:06] he has lotsa data on there he dont wanna lose [17:06] i usually disconnect all drives except the one i am installing on, just to be safe [17:07] ya me too now [17:08] gparted can lose stuff quick too if you tick wrong place [17:08] yeah [17:08] that's why i don't like to offer advice on such matters [17:09] i would feel terrible if i caused someone to lose their data [17:09] that fsck command fixed mine [17:09] just can remember the goodie to use [17:09] cant [17:11] fsck -f /dev/sdb1 [17:11] there yo go [17:11] :p [17:12] tell HecticZA that >.< [17:12] dunno where i got p from [17:12] i had to hunt for that [17:12] was lying in maverick on desktop [17:12] hehe [17:13] p? [17:13] ah [17:13] -p or -P means something in some command [17:14] i got advice saved all over [17:14] :) [17:22] hey Cantide maybe he hasnt got permissions to see that drive [17:22] oh [17:22] is that possible? [17:22] i only know the chown way to take control [17:22] hmm [17:22] i don't know about it [17:22] normally not a whole drive i think [17:29] train probs again monday superfly they say its gonna rain [17:29] -_- [17:29] i hope not [17:29] eish [17:44] hi nlsthzn [17:44] hiya uncle Kilos [18:25] hi jmagunduni [18:26] hi ,kilos .i have a problem with my network manager applet. It disappear sometimes . please help :-( [18:26] oh my [18:27] lemme see what google says [18:27] 13.04 hey? [18:27] yes [18:29] when does it disappear === Cantide is now known as CanAFKish [18:31] jmagunduni, look at this link [18:31] http://askubuntu.com/questions/57292/nm-applets-vpn-menu-disappears [18:31] i hope thats it [18:38] Kilos: whenever i am connected to the internet.I tried goggling but couldn't find any solution , so i was thinking perhaps someone in this group have came across the same problem and resolved it.The other problem is that i occasionally get disconnected from the internet.I am using my cellphone to connect to the internet"via Bluetooth". [18:39] http://askubuntu.com/questions/57292/nm-applets-vpn-menu-disappears [18:39] maybe try reinstall nm-applet too [18:43] jmagunduni1, do you have synaptic installed [18:43] Grrr >:-O how will I connect to the internet if I re-install/un-install nm-applet :-(.Anyway thanks Kilos, i will have a look at the forum and probably get back to you if the problem persists .Thanks [18:43] try with synaptic [18:44] hello hello [18:44] type in network at the top and right click reinstall all thats installed there [18:44] hi kbmonkey [18:44] thanks kilos,will try that. [18:45] hi Kbmonkey whats up? [18:45] nananana-weekend [18:45] hehe [18:46] jmagunduni1, if you use the -d option with apt-get it will download nm-applet packages beforehand so you can reinstall it while offline :) [18:46] synaptic has this option too [18:47] kbmonkey :give me an example , I am not a tech geek , I'm just a normal end user [18:48] :-) [18:50] let me look at synaptic... [18:50] hmm, strange, did that option fall away? :P [18:52] ah okay here is how it works jmagunduni1 ... [18:52] kbmonkey:yes. [18:52] when you do a system update it will download the latest version of all your apps as installers (.deb files) [18:52]