[00:00] <daftykins> Hyperiant: #ubuntu - googling for you since... well before i first came here!
[00:00] <Hyperiant> hahaha
[00:00] <George_> Hey guys sorry I had to take a shower, but any ideas about recovering my root permissions?
[00:01] <daftykins> George_: you... do understand 'sudo' right?
[00:01] <George_> oh sorry dude didn't see that <wilee-nilee> George_, So if you get to the recovery choice and choose it what happens? -----> Ubuntu starts listing a bunch of text in the command line, then changes to a black screen and does nothing.
[00:02] <George_> yes it is its own permission
[00:03] <George_> i'm trying to give my account permissions again
[00:03] <daftykins> George_: but you understand that root doesn't have a password?
[00:03] <George_> but I can't because it was disabled and I need root password to re enable
[00:03] <George_> maybe not
[00:03] <George_> lol
[00:03] <k1l> !root | George_
[00:04] <k1l> George_: its not the ubuntu way to have root with a password
[00:05] <George_> so how do i get permissions again when I don't have them as the only admin user?
[00:05] <k1l> you use sudo in ther terminal do gain root rights
[00:05] <k1l> and the password is the same as the user got
[00:06] <daftykins> George_: as the first user created on the system, type 'sudo' before your command, or to temporarily switch to root, type 'sudo -s'
[00:06] <George_> the first user created on the system is disabled......
[00:06] <k1l> sudo -i ist most correct
[00:06] <George_> sudo -i enables sudo
[00:06] <k1l> no, that gives you a root-shell
[00:06] <th0r> George_, not knowing what is wrong with your account we are only guessing, but I suspect you will have to boot a recovery cd and affect the repairs from there
[00:07] <George_> yes
[00:07] <George_> I tried that
[00:07] <k1l> which you shouldnt use anyway if you dont know what you doing at all
[00:07] <George_> it gets stuck on the Ubuntu loading screen
[00:08] <teep> k.
[00:09] <DeathJesterUK> Okay, my mouse isnt working now. This is getting STUPID!
[00:09] <Hyperiant> daftykins: I downloaded the signature file but I can't paste it into the proper folder and I can't alter the existing signature file; it seems to be read-only and I'm "not owner"
[00:10] <daftykins> Hyperiant: sudo cp /place/downloaded/to /place/to/go/to
[00:10] <DeathJesterUK> So, I installed the updated ATI drivers...things are running better, but, the mouse has stopped working again. I have now come full circle.
[00:10] <daftykins> is simples yesh?
[00:10] <Hyperiant> is there a way to sudo nautilus?
[00:10] <madprops> gksudo nautilus
[00:11] <Hyperiant> oh.
[00:11] <daftykins> Hyperiant: well yes but you ought to not consider graphical the only way
[00:11] <madprops> gksudo -m nautilus
[00:11] <madprops> actually
[00:11] <Skymont> how does Ubuntu/Canonical Ltd. get its profits?
[00:11] <Hyperiant> it...doesn't?
[00:11] <Hyperiant> it has private funding and donation support
[00:11] <daftykins> Skymont: in their office basement the staff's children turn electric generators
[00:12] <George_> well ubuntu isn't known for support
[00:12] <Hyperiant> how do I get nautilus to show file extensions for all files?
[00:12] <DeathJesterUK> Is it any wonder, with all the problems getting linux to work, that people stay with windows? Windows works out of the god damn box and you dont have to have a degree in computer science just to INSTALL THE THING!!!
[00:13] <daftykins> Hyperiant: Linux doesn't use file extensions
[00:13] <drags> s/degree in computer science/a tiny modicum of patience/
[00:13] <k1l> lets put the not technical support in the offtopic: #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:13] <daftykins> DeathJesterUK: er actually you do have to have some skills to install Windows right, most don't so they start trying to learn Linux :(
[00:14] <daftykins> DeathJesterUK: also it's more AMD and nvidia being terrible at caring for Linux drivers that makes what you're up to a struggle at times
[00:14] <DeathJesterUK> I have had 4 hours of patience thus far...and have come full circle to my mouse not working again!
[00:14] <Hyperiant> daftykins: How is the terminal supposed to differentiate between a text file named "signature" and a video file named "signature" when you move it from place to place?  Without file extensions, how will it know which one to move?
[00:14] <daftykins> DeathJesterUK: have you at any stage considered the mouse is faulty? :)
[00:14] <DeathJesterUK> No. The mouse is not faulty!
[00:14] <daftykins> Hyperiant: well a video would have an extension but a config file wouldn't
[00:15] <th0r> Hyperbyte, funny as it seems, you can't name two files the same
[00:15] <k1l> Hyperbyte: the file tells it
[00:15] <th0r> Hyperiant, ^^
[00:15] <daftykins> tcf.
[00:15] <wilee-nilee> George_, Kinda hard to help thise that can't help themselves with an accurate detailed description of the problem to begin with
[00:15] <k1l> Hyperbyte: just use "file filename_here"
[00:16] <Hyperiant> th0r: every time I come in here, everyone calls me hyperbyte; is there a program or command named that?
[00:16] <th0r> Hyperiant, tab completion...if you type Hyper and hit tab....that is how I got it wrong
[00:16] <k1l> Hyperiant: sorry, that is tabcompletion misuse
[00:16] <Hyperiant> ohhh, haha, there's another guy in here
[00:16] <Skymont> sorry i got disconnected
[00:16] <Skymont> Hyperiant, are their financial statements available for us to view?
[00:16] <Skymont> or is it hidden from the public?
[00:17] <k1l> Skymont:  lets put the not technical support in the offtopic: #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:17] <Skymont> "Canonical generates revenue through the sale of technical support and services related to Ubuntu.[16]"
[00:17] <cyrano_> I currently have sound, however no sound devices are showing up in the sound manager. So I am not able to change the volume or mute. While watching things in VLC the sound has no issues, however if I watch a youtube video the sound is very choppy yet the video isn't.
[00:17] <George_> I gave you a complete description of what is wrong. I have no permissions and my account is disabled, I can't get permissions by following steps to boot into recovery mode because recovery mode is broken
[00:17] <George_> my problem: recovery mode doesn't work
[00:17] <th0r> dropped every half hour...like clockwork :(
[00:17] <daftykins> George_: you were advised to boot from *installation media/LiveCD* as an alternative.
[00:18] <Noize> Could someone help me with my bluetooth error? Bluetooth seemed to eb working until i used sixad and sixpair to connect my PS3 controller and Nexus 4 togethere
[00:18] <George_> I did... And I told everyone multiple times that it got stuck on the Ubuntu boot menu
[00:18] <Noize> now my bluetooth will not start
[00:18] <daftykins> George_: so try another disc? try memory test? try a flash drive? more things than sitting here? :)
[00:18] <DeathJesterUK> Broken OS is useless.
[00:19] <George_> omg
[00:19] <k1l> DeathJesterUK: this channel is not for ranting
[00:19] <George_> daftykins: at least you're right and nice lol
[00:19] <George_> I'm going to try a flash drive
[00:19] <Hyperiant> so I'm running sudo cp to move stuff, but I keep getting "no such file or directory"
[00:19] <Skymont> is there at least a donor list of who is actually funding Canonical, such as Goldman Sachs, CIA, or Google...etc
[00:20] <k1l> Hyperiant: are you sure you need sudo rights?
[00:20] <daftykins> Hyperiant: your path for the source or destination must be wrong. you can use tab completion to get folders/file names right
[00:20] <flx1rc1> lol, Skynet
[00:20] <th0r> Skymont, the NSA won't let them publish that
[00:20] <Hyperiant> k1l: yes; the folder I'm copying to is read-only
[00:20] <k1l> Skymont: which part of: "that is offtopic in here" dont you understand?
[00:20] <daftykins> k1l: it's a system driver file he needs to overwrite, seems legit
[00:20] <wilee-nilee> ! ot | Skymont any more and I suspect you will be banned.
[00:21] <k1l> daftykins: ah ok
[00:21] <Skymont> wilee-nilee, this is a support question regarding Ubuntu/Canonical
[00:21] <k1l> Skymont: i already told you that this is a technical support channel
[00:21] <Hyperiant> daftykins: how would I go about using that tab completion?  I press tab and nothing happens
[00:21] <Skymont> k1l, they put "technical support only" in the topic or create #Ubuntu-technical or something
[00:22] <Skymont> then*
[00:22] <daftykins> Hyperiant: let's say you're in /home/username (which is also ~) you'd type the first character of something, hit tab and it'll try and cycle through the available options
[00:23] <Hyperiant> daftykins: I have absolutely no idea what folder I'm in
[00:23] <Hyperiant> I type in a character and everything BUT downloads shows up
[00:23] <daftykins> Hyperiant: type 'pwd'
[00:23] <daftykins> and hit enter
[00:23] <th0r> Hyperiant, sure it isn't Downloads? Case sensitive remember
[00:24] <daftykins> ^
[00:24] <Hyperiant> it is?
[00:24] <eoin_> pwd  - will list what dir youare in
[00:24] <eoin_> ls  -will list all the files/folders in that dir
[00:24] <Hyperiant> cannot stat /Downloads/signature : No such file or directory
[00:24] <Hyperiant> still not working
[00:24] <eoin_> cd  - will change the directory
[00:25] <Hyperiant> is it so dang hard to move a file?  hahaha
[00:25] <daftykins> Hyperiant: i'm sensing you're new to Linux :D
[00:25] <daftykins> Hyperiant: not if you're 100% that it is where you think it is
[00:25] <daftykins> Hyperiant: type "ls -al ~/Downloads/" and paste us the link
[00:27] <eoin_> Hyperiant: http://www.howtogeek.com/107808/how-to-manage-files-from-the-linux-terminal-11-commands-you-need-to-know/
[00:27] <Hyperiant> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5785428/
[00:28] <nintet> GO HEAT
[00:28] <daftykins> oh there is a signature in there
[00:28] <Hyperiant> eoin_: I know the commands but I can't figure out what directory exactly I'm in
[00:28] <daftykins> Hyperiant: but with sudo you need to give it the full path. "sudo cp /home/mark/Downloads/signature /place/to/copy..."
[00:28] <flx1rc1> Hyperiant: what file u trying to move and from where to where?
[00:28] <eoin_> type pwd and tell us what is says
[00:28] <daftykins> will you guys stop jumping on the same damn question?
[00:28] <Hyperiant> daftykins: yes, that's where I was confused, I don't HAVE the full directory
[00:28] <daftykins> you're just repeating stuff i've already been through
[00:29] <daftykins> which is wasting TIME
[00:29] <daftykins> now back off.
[00:29] <th0r> my my
[00:29] <flx1rc1> lol, well help him already
[00:29] <daftykins> i just did.
[00:29] <Hyperiant> hoorah hoorah, no errors this time
[00:29] <daftykins> excellent
[00:30] <Skymont> i would like support on the process of how to have a channel op's actions reviewed. thanks
[00:31] <k1l> !appeals > Skymont
[00:31] <Hyperiant> daftykins: drat, I'm still getting "Unsupported Hardware"
[00:31] <Kevin`> is there a mirror for cdimage.ubuntu.com?
[00:32] <daftykins> Hyperiant: where was the signature you downloaded from though? the post refers to needing one from an older driver where your card *was* supported - also it mentions you need to at least log out and back in for it to be applied
[00:32] <applejacks10101> ubuntu 13.04, getting random system hang ups, any idea what the problem is?
[00:32] <applejacks10101> can't move the mouse, and required system reboot
[00:32] <Hyperiant> daftykins: I used the signature linked in the attachment, and I did a sudo reboot right after
[00:33] <daftykins> Hyperiant: ah, yeah you're going to need to read the post in a bit more detail than that
[00:34] <applejacks10101> 13.04, i5 2300, Intel 2000, 6GB RAM, 64GB SSD [Random hang ups, mouse wont move, required hard reboot] doesn't seem like a driver problem since its a desktop and not using any special gpu or anything else
[00:35] <applejacks10101> System doesn't appear to use up all the ram during these hang ups, nor does the cpu go crazy with usage, so I have no idea.
[00:36] <Flannel> xk /lastlog Skymont
[00:36] <applejacks10101> Only programs that will be up is just google chrome, many tabs and other stuff like the term and thats pretty much it, no special software or anything
[00:38] <applejacks10101> Its really odd, I always get hangups on every system with linux, but not very often, but with ubuntu 13.04 its almost every day or every other day
[00:39] <daftykins> applejacks10101: what other OSs have you tried? have they been fine?
[00:39] <applejacks10101> Mainly linux mint on my desktop, and 12.04/12.10
[00:39] <applejacks10101> I think it might be unity freezing up
[00:40] <Guest65958> Hello, I have installed Xubutu just now and I cannot get the sound running. Intel onboard HDA soundcard. ALSA mixer is all high up. Had the same problem with ubutu. :(. Help would be greatly appreciated!
[00:40]  * Guest65958 w0lfsen
[00:40] <Kevin`> applejacks10101: does your computer have a serial port? (may be a header only). the best thing is to set up logging on that or netconsole
[00:40] <Kevin`> applejacks10101: if it's only the UI, ssh will still work
[00:41] <daftykins> applejacks10101: latest SSD firmware + system BIOS?
[00:41] <Hyperiant> ugh, I'm trying to change permissions for something and I'm still not owner; how do I make it so that I can alter permissions through nautilus?
[00:41] <applejacks10101> nope, just usb/audio/etc headers, never notice a serial header on the mb
[00:41] <Hyperiant> because I don't know how to make a file executable through the command line yet
[00:42] <amar> Hyperiant: through "+x"
[00:42] <Hyperiant> and it seems like other people are able to modify the permissions of files through nautilus
[00:42] <Hyperiant> amar: What is that and how do I use it ><
[00:43] <daftykins> Hyperiant: chmod +x datfilename
[00:43] <applejacks10101> System BIOS has the ssd set to AHCI, never really messed with the firmware on it, last time I checked the firmware, it was the lastest
[00:43] <th0r> Hyperiant, if you are having problems finding your way around ~, what is it you are trying to make executable?
[00:43] <w0lfsen> Hello, I have installed Xubutu just now and I cannot get the sound running. Intel onboard HDA soundcard. ALSA mixer is all high up. Had the same problem with ubutu. :(. Help would be greatly appreciated!  (sorry for reposting...but I had not changed my name yet)
[00:43] <Hyperiant> th0r: I googled a solution to my problem that said I needed to paste stuff into a .sh file, save it, and make it executable
[00:44] <applejacks10101> It is a Crucial M4 sdd
[00:44] <Hyperiant> daftykins: thank you, but that still doesn't explain why it seems other people are able to, out of the box, be able to change file permissions through nautilus
[00:45] <Hyperiant> Command lines are nice but sometimes I'd rather right-click and change the properties than open a command line and manually type the full directory and filename
[00:46] <Hyperiant> especially when it seems that the program (nautilus) seems to be designed to have that feature, but I'm unable to access it
[00:46] <benbloom> so I had to fsck my rootFS (malfunctioning microSD) and I had to remove the following files from the system. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5785452/ will the system rebuild these on the next startup, or should I create the files myself. do any of these need certain content? if so, where can I find that?
[00:47] <daftykins> Hyperiant: well how did you save this .sh (a script) file? what editor? where did you save it?
[00:47] <Kevin`> benbloom: those should all be autogenerated. whether resolv.conf is depends somewhat on system configuration. you'd probably know.
[00:47] <Hyperiant> daftykins: I used sudo gedit to save it to home because I don't have permissions to save to home
[00:48] <th0r> Hyperiant, and that is why you can't change the file permissions.....it is owned by root
[00:48] <th0r> Hyperiant, and you shouldn't be saving in home...you should be doing all your work in /home/username
[00:48] <benbloom> thanks Kevin` indeed resolv.conf is one i know what to do with
[00:49] <Hyperiant> th0r: well, yes, but...I would still like the ability to change file permissions without having to run the terminal and manually type out the entire directory and filename to do it every single time
[00:49] <daftykins> Hyperiant: that'll be why you can't change it, because now that file is owned by root, not you. so in effect you have no permission to change it
[00:50] <daftykins> Hyperiant: so open gedit without using sudo, save the script again in /home/mark and then you can use nautilus to browse to it and add execute
[00:50] <Hyperiant> daftykins: nautilus's reason is that I'm not owner...but I'm the only user account, yes?  so aren't I owner?
[00:50] <th0r> Hyperiant, well, if you did all your work in /home/username you wouldn't need to use sudo, and then you would own the file and be able to use nautilus to change the permissiion
[00:50] <daftykins> Hyperiant: nope 'root' is the Administrator equivalent, who can do everything he or she wants. including break stuff
[00:50] <Hyperiant> th0r: my issue just before this was that I needed to copy a file to a folder that was read-only but I didn't have permissions to change that fact; I'd like to be able to do that without needing the terminal
[00:52] <ozysimpson> sorry for cross posting: I am new to ubuntu so please excuse my question, I have a hardware raid 1 on a 250G disk, I am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 LTS, installation goes smoothly and comes back with message saying ubuntu has installed sucessfully but after reboot i cant see grub the machine goes into what is called a black screen with curser blinking could some please help me here
[00:53] <Hyperiant> ozysimpson: go into BIOS and set the primary boot device to the HDDs you're using
[00:53] <Hyperiant> ozysimpson: or, rather, make it secondary and remove any discs in your CD drive
[00:53] <daftykins> !bootrepair
[00:53] <daftykins> ok not got that one :(
[00:54] <daftykins> Hyperiant: that's not it at all
[00:54] <daftykins> Hyperiant: my suggestions above working better now?
[00:54] <ozysimpson> Hyperiant, thank you for the quick reply, i only have a 2 disks and they are set as my first boot
[00:54] <Hyperiant> daftykins: I fixed the watermark but I still would like to be able to actually use nautilus ><
[00:55] <Hyperiant> also can't you fix grub with the live CD?
[00:55] <Hyperiant> daftykins: In W7 there's a button you can press that lets you input a password for admin; there isn't a sudo button for nautilus?
[00:55] <ozysimpson> thats right but as i said i am quite new to Ubuntu, so not sure how to go about
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | ozysimpson
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> !raid
[00:56] <Hyperiant> wilee-nilee: he sees a flashing cursor, so it's not graphics
[00:56] <daftykins> Hyperiant: do you mean you want to set the execute permissions or to do root stuff with nautilus?
[00:56] <wilee-nilee> ozysimpson, Take a look at the raid info and make sure you are set up with the correct type.
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> Hyperiant, Not true a black screen with a flashing cursor can be a graphic driver needed.
[00:58] <ozysimpson> wilee-nilee, i think i have to agree with you, since i have nvidia cuda card on the machine
[00:58] <Hyperiant> daftykins: I mean I want to be able to copy-paste into protected folders like I can do with unprotected folders; I don't mind a password prompt, but I'd still like to be able to do it
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> ozysimpson, Ah, the lovely nvidia.
[00:58] <daftykins> Hyperiant: back in earlier ubuntus alt+f2 gave you a run dialogue, i'm not sure if 13.04 does that. otherwise just hit the dash top left and type 'gksudo nautilus'
[00:58] <daftykins> Hyperiant: that'll open a nautilus window *as root* with which you can copy and paste into all kinds of dangerous system places
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> except you need a desktop to do that
[00:59] <Hyperiant> daftykins: hmm...is there a way to make that into a shortcut that I can place on the left bar?
[00:59] <ozysimpson> wilee-nilee, this machine is from our lab my supervisor has asked me to install ubuntu on this machine
[00:59] <teste> aaa
[01:00] <teste> hELLO
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> ozysimpson, Cool, I'm not really up on graphics, all my computers I have had never needed additional drivers so, others can help best there.
[01:01] <daftykins> ozysimpson: if the cursor is top left after POST and before booting, it's not a graphics issue. hold down shift to see if GRUB runs, if it does maybe it *is* graphics
[01:01] <ozysimpson> wilee-nilee, thanks for the help I am having a read at the link yo usent before
[01:01] <jcrza> I'm so disappointed in Ubuntu. I can't get it to work with my surface pro
[01:01] <daftykins> Hyperiant: probably. you could make a script but i have no idea about placing stuff on that bar
[01:01] <Hyperiant> what's the difference between gksudo and gksudo -m?
[01:01] <daftykins> jcrza: that's a tablet.
[01:02] <Hyperiant> daftykins: how would I go about making that script?
[01:02] <sethj> jcrza That's probably MS's fault.
[01:02] <jcrza> daftykins: sure. but why not? It can run any windows OS
[01:02] <hikenboot> hello I am trying to setup tightvnc server on ubuntu 12.04 server I am able to set it up fine and easily on ubuntu desktop but with the server all I get in the vncviewer on windows is a grey screen gnome or kde don't start. I have tried everything that scouring the internet can yield with no results anyone able to help with this
[01:02] <jcrza> sethj: there's an Ubuntu driver for the chipset, it just doesn't work properly when compiled
[01:02] <jcrza> and networkmanager may or may not have a bug says some bugreport on the marvell chipset
[01:02] <daftykins> Hyperiant: running gedit, put in 'gksudo nautilus' and saving it, put it in /home/username/ first then make it executable and double click to test
[01:02] <jcrza> I've been trying to get it to work for days
[01:03] <jcrza> seriously, I'd give somebody like 50USD to fix it at this point
[01:03] <jcrza> whatever the bug is
[01:03] <hikenboot> I have installed ubuntu server as a guest in vmware esx with the vmware tools installed
[01:03] <sethj> jcrza, You aren't being very specific about what isn't working...
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> jcrza, Wait, hold on, let me find that worlds smallest violin. If you want help don't start with complaining, you knock out about half the help.
[01:03] <daftykins> jcrza: pretty sure ubuntu doesn't go on the surface tablets. there'd be no support in here either way
[01:04] <jcrza> sethj: Okay, so if you manage to get Ubuntu installed and get the driver for the rev 4 version of the surface pro chipset you can get it to connect to a wifi network but you never get an IP
[01:04] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: pretty sure it's a troll anyway
[01:04] <jcrza> I actually got kicked last time I came in here for help being all nice and stuff
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> there is support for any computer running ubuntu.
[01:04] <jcrza> why's it so ridiculous to want to put Ubuntu on a tablet pc that can run windows
[01:04] <th0r> jcrza, how many more reasons do you have for me not buying a surface pro?
[01:04] <daftykins> wilee-nilee: not arm. not officially.
[01:04] <jcrza> I just want to be able to use Linux ;-;
[01:04] <jcrza> I already have the surface though
[01:04] <sethj> daftykins, It does sorta work.. http://askubuntu.com/questions/265644/dual-boot-surface-pro-with-ubuntu
[01:04] <jcrza> I just want Linux-y goodness on it.
[01:04] <jcrza> ^ that
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> has to be one that will run it though.
[01:05] <jcrza> I've read everything under the sun I could find
[01:05] <jcrza> -someone- must have figured it out
[01:05] <jcrza> I've been trying to get on Ubuntu because I just learned javascript and I want to mess around with meteor
[01:05] <jcrza> but this is the only hardware I have
[01:05] <jcrza> I know, small violin
[01:05] <hikenboot> at this point I would except advice of an alternative to tightvnc or vnc as a whole...anyone?
[01:05] <jcrza> if any of you have some answers I'll seriously just send you money at this point
[01:06] <jcrza> I just want Linux on the surface pro
[01:06] <sethj> jcrza, http://askubuntu.com/a/271402/44179 and http://askubuntu.com/a/303358/44179 Also, please try to fit more words in one message ;)
[01:06] <compdoc> hikenboot, x11rdp
[01:06] <th0r> hikenboot, I found NX worked faster than vnc, and X-forwarding worked even better
[01:06] <jcrza> sethj: I did that whole thing, it doesn't actually work
[01:06] <hikenboot> thanks compdoc and th0r
[01:07] <hikenboot> are either of you access it from windows
[01:07] <sethj> jcrza, Well then... Guess who gets to fix it ;-P
[01:07] <hikenboot> I assume compdoc that you are since its using rdp
[01:07] <sethj> (most likely..)
[01:07] <Hyperiant> daftykins: I made it executable but double-clicking it only opens up gedit
[01:07] <th0r> hikenboot, I actually did get X-forwarding to work in windows, and there is an NX client for windows I believe
[01:08] <jcrza> one day :( there are dozens of us.
[01:08] <jcrza> eh, thanks anyway. I'll ask in a few weeks, maybe something'll have changed
[01:08] <hikenboot> thanks guys I will try both
[01:08] <daftykins> Hyperiant: hrmm, it might need a she-bang at the start. tbh you could google scripts for this, i gotta call it a night
[01:09] <hikenboot> apt-get remove --purge tightvncserver!!!!
[01:09] <daftykins> he exclaimed.
[01:11] <readyjar> Hey so do compiz effects work in 13.04 under gnome??
[01:11] <somsip> !info php5
[01:12] <minimec> readyjar: Imho no. Gnome3 uses mutter (clutter) for composite rendering.
[01:13] <readyjar> minimec: Hmm, so it's either use gnome OR get compiz effects?
[01:14] <Hyperiant> I googled scripting; plenty of tutorials but nothing on how to make them executable by double-click, only by terminal
[01:15] <minimec> readyjar: I would say so, and... compiz will be dropped for 14.04 and replaced with unity new and Mir
[01:15] <daftykins> Hyperiant: actually maybe you can just right click and make a shortcut, dunno
[01:18] <Thelukas> Teste
[01:19] <Thelukas> Alguém ai ?
[01:19] <navatwo> Hey so I'm having a problem with Kubuntu 13.04: After I login, I try to open SOME applications it will crash the environment and throw me back to a log in. dmesg is clean, and the kernel log is as well.
[01:19] <navatwo> Any advice would be awesome
[01:19] <Hyperiant> daftykins: Making a link and running it just opens gedit again
[01:19] <Thelukas> Somebody brazil ?
[01:19] <daftykins> Hyperiant: ok, maybe ask again, i gotta head to bed now
[01:19] <Hyperiant> k
[01:20] <sethj> !pt | Thelukas
[01:20] <Hyperiant> Chat, how do you make scripts executable by double-click?
[01:20] <navatwo> Hyperiant: depends..
[01:20] <DoverMo> the nouveau framebuffer in 3.8 is slow
[01:21] <navatwo> I think if you chmod +x the file itshoudl do that in nautilus
[01:21] <DoverMo> gonna have to get the proprietary stuff because the nouveau framebuffer breaks in 3.9/3.10
[01:23] <w0lfsen> Hi there, I have this problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1171181 The next to the last poster on the thread mentions this /etc/default/speech-dispatcher I do have the same issue. How can I change, eliminate, alter it? I cannot change anything in the document
[01:24] <Hyperiant> navatwo: nope, still opens in gedit
[01:25] <navatwo> right click, run in terminal?
[01:25] <Hyperiant> navatwo: no such option
[01:25] <navatwo> you have to chmod it first
[01:25] <Hyperiant> navatwo: I did
[01:25] <th0r> Hyperiant, pastebin your script
[01:25] <navatwo> ^
[01:25] <navatwo> oh
[01:26] <navatwo> you're probably missing #! /usr/bin/bash
[01:26] <navatwo> at the top
[01:26] <Hyperiant> th0r: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5785530/
[01:27] <heeward> anyone know what the function <alt>+| (the button above tab) is called?
[01:27] <heeward> I want to unbind it
[01:28] <vite> Hi can anyone point me to were I read on how to delete an email from a key.gpg
[01:29] <somsip> heeward: backtick? tilde? Depends on your keyboard layout a bit
[01:30] <Hyperiant> does chat really not know?
[01:30] <th0r> Hyperiant, take out the gksudo -m and see if you can just invoke nautilus. I don't use gnome, but I recall that you don't get the file manager by just calling nautilus
[01:30] <heeward> somsip: I am on norwegian layout
[01:31] <th0r> Hyperiant, I don't have gksudo installed, so I can't really try it out, but I was able to call thunar with a simple script like yours
[01:31] <somsip> heeward: personally, no idea then. Maybe someone else who is familiar with the layout can help
[01:31] <th0r> Hyperiant, I did start with !#/bin/sh....not !#/bin/bash but I don't think that would matter
[01:31] <Hyperiant> th0r: I can't invoke -anything-, it won't run on double-click
[01:32] <th0r> Hyperiant, change the nautilus line to just read 'gedit' and see if that works...if so see my comment above about how to invoke nautilus
[01:32] <OerHeks> "nautilus &"
[01:33] <Hyperiant> th0r: nope
[01:33] <th0r> Hyperiant, are you sure it is marked executable?
[01:34] <Hyperiant> th0r: yep, nautilus says it is and I did chmod +x
[01:34] <Hyperiant> gotta go, hoped to have this problem fixed by now :/
[01:34] <JcGood> hi i just installed awesome wm , and i have to manually configure network information ?
[01:34] <swe3tdave> hey guys, back on ubuntu after a few month of hackintoshing, i was gonna buy a mac pro but then, they made it look like a trash can.. so, :P More seriously, i see that there is a lot of paying stuff on the software center, i do approve a bit of choices here and there, but it feels like bad porn when things like google sketchup aren't there...
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> ! ot | swe3tdave
[01:36]  * wilee-nilee wonders why people think we care about their subjective opinions
[01:36] <JcGoood>  hi i just installed awesome wm , and i have to manually configure network information ?
[01:36]  * somsip wondered about the 'bad porn' bit...
[01:37] <somsip> JcGoood: that reads like a statement but with a question mark. What's the problem?
[01:39] <JcGoood> somsip sorry, i just installed awesome WM, i used to use gnome previously, but its seems like i dont have internet anymore , so im asking if a have to configure it manually ? wifi doesnt help thought
[01:40] <Thelukas> brasil ?
[01:41] <somsip> JcGoood: if it's a wifi connection, I can't help you but maybe someone else can. The WM intself won't cause you to have to configure things differently, but the absence of gnome and the helpers it provides might mean you do have to configure things manually
[01:41] <IdleOne> !br | Thelukas
[01:41] <th0r> JcGoood, you might consider trying wicd....a replacement for network-mangler
[01:43] <JcGoood> th0r , thanks i will see
[01:45] <Thelukas> thank you
[01:53] <pokkerface> hi all, what happened with the last kernel update?
[01:54] <pokkerface> it does not recognize my wifi card
[01:54] <h2so4> yaourt filezilla
[02:02] <sethj> !wifi | pokkerface
[02:03] <sethj> That is a start.
[02:03] <bloohaha> Haallo! G'mornin from my part of tha world ^_^
[02:06] <readyjar> Does anyone here use the Sublime text editor?
[02:07] <bloohaha> Q: My server has a public IP which I can ssh to... However etc/network/interfaces was configured to a local 192.168.x.x address with a netmask to it... Can I go ahead and assign the old static IP back to the machine? if so where can I get the right values for the netmask and gateway..
[02:08] <bloohaha> join #linux-networking
[02:09] <applejacks10101> quick question, whats the arm chip that ubuntu supports currently?
[02:09] <Archguy> Hi, is there anyway to install USB at BOOT to BIOS on HP Pavilion zv5000 which has Windows XP so I can install Linux? I don't have a Live CD :/
[02:10] <bazhang> applejacks10101, #ubuntu-arm
[02:10] <applejacks10101> okay, thanks
[02:11] <arowana> Hi all
[02:11] <john_doe_jr> how do I check to see what computers have connected to my ubuntu server?
[02:12] <ZenGuy311> Archguy:  use usb and possibly a lighter ubuntu derivative
[02:12] <somsip> john_doe_jr: in what way do they connect? SSH? DHCP?
[02:13] <sere> Archguy: you want to boot from the usb drive?
[02:13] <readyjar> Is there a way to stop things from one workspace accessing stuff from other workspaces? For example, I have chromium open in one workspace. If I go to another, and click on something that opens a link, it opens it in the workspace with chromium already open. I'd rather it open it in the current workspace
[02:14] <readyjar> And it appears the gnome extensions website is down?
[02:16] <th0r> readyjar, does chromium have an option to open links in a new window?
[02:17] <BlueShark> Yep
[02:17] <john_doe_jr> somsip: ssh
[02:18] <somsip> john_doe_jr: 'who' will tell you all logged in users. What other info do you need about them?
[02:18] <readyjar> th0r: If it does, it's not anywhere obvious, like the settings page
[02:18] <john_doe_jr> somsip: I think I've found it: /var/log/auth.log
[02:18] <somsip> john_doe_jr: sorry, not who. just 'w'
[02:18] <magoratogha> sad
[02:19] <somsip> john_doe_jr: that will show all login attempts yes
[02:19] <john_doe_jr> somsip: alright
[02:22] <Tux_1> How would you use sed to substitute  $ with dollar ?
[02:24] <npope> Tux_1: sed 's/\$/dollar/g' filename.txt
[02:27] <Tux_1> npope: the \ is not escaping $ when I try it
[02:28] <npope> it should be
[02:28] <npope> it might not be editing the file
[02:28] <npope> you need to add -i to sed so it will edit inplace
[02:29] <npope> make sure to backup the file first
[02:30] <Tux_1> npope: thanks
[02:30] <Tux_1> npope: editing in a pipe
[02:31] <JcGoood> how can i set a wm as main manager ? in a ubuntu server edition ?
[02:32] <KrisHansen> hey geeks, I got this little Samsung Netbook, it seems to be working too hard on 13.04, not sure what the problem is but I wanted to try a lighter kernel, I have already done the lubuntu install over the 13.04 but its still like 13.04 anyway right? so can i try 12.10 studio? what is the difference between 12.04 studio and desktop? is there a difference?
[02:32] <readyjar> KrisHansen: What desktop manager are you using?
[02:32] <KrisHansen> I basically want to try a new kernel from 13.04 , which Ubuntu should i run on a little netbook that could?
[02:32] <KrisHansen> readyjar: no clue ? what is that ?
[02:32] <readyjar> The default, Unity, is pretty resource intensive
[02:32] <KrisHansen> readyjar: yeah i got unity now
[02:33] <readyjar> From my experience. Try lxde
[02:33] <madprops> unity is a beast
[02:33] <KrisHansen> readyjar: i got 13.04 desktop and then ran apt-get install lubuntu , but its still Unity though
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> KrisHansen, A non stock kernel will not be supported, and I doubt is the problem
[02:34] <th0r> KrisHansen, I don't think the kernel is going to be a solution. You need to get onto a lighter de....xfce or lxde
[02:34] <KrisHansen> so should i try the 12.04 desktop i have the live usb already made up? and then run the lubuntu again ?
[02:34] <readyjar> KrisHansen: http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-lxde-on-ubuntu-13-04/
[02:34] <readyjar> 13.04 is much more efficient than 12.04
[02:34] <w30> readyjar, try Lubuntu. Its not the kernel its the apps running
[02:34] <readyjar> lxde is meant to be very lightweight
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> KrisHansen, Download the lubuntu iso and try it.
[02:34] <readyjar> Could also give Gnome a shot
[02:35] <KrisHansen> readyjar: hey i already did the lubuntu thing, i get the blue screen when i boot up , but its still looks like raring ringgtail though ? i am confused
[02:35] <readyjar> KrisHansen: Lubuntu is another distro. It is not the same thing as lxde.
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> KrisHansen, Do you know that you choose the desktop at the login.
[02:35] <KrisHansen> wilee-nilee: wait , so running lubuntu apt-get install over the top of 13.04 is not the same thing?
[02:35] <w30> readyjar, lxde can be run on any ubuntu distro Lubuntu is light as a system not just the gui
[02:36] <JcGoood> yes but from an ubuntu server edition , how to choosedesktop ?
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> KrisHansen, Go to the login, at the gear is a dropdown choose lubuntu and login.
[02:36] <KrisHansen> readyjar: this is what i have now ok, instlled 13.04 from a love usb clean, and its desktop version yes , then i ran apt-get install lubuntu from terminal.
[02:36] <Mathias> looks like unity/compiz crashes right after login now. i only tried to install evolution (the calendar)
[02:36] <KrisHansen> wilee-nilee: oh so i gotta choose lubuntu from the pinwheel ?
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> KrisHansen, Yes.
[02:36] <KrisHansen> wilee-nilee: oh shit
[02:37] <KrisHansen> wilee-nilee: thank you. simple stuff
[02:37] <KrisHansen> bbl
[02:37] <th0r> KrisHansen, I think it will say lxde at the dropdown, not lubuntu....but not sure
[02:37] <KrisHansen> th0r: ok bbl
[02:37] <readyjar> I thought lubuntu was a distro, apt-get installing it from Ubuntu makes no sense...
[02:38] <KrisHansen> readyjar: so shou,d i download the iso and go clean ??
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> readyjar, Lubuntu is a desktop on the ubuntu core basically.
[02:38] <th0r> readyjar, lubuntu is an ubuntu variant that installs lxde by default...the internals are the same
[02:38] <readyjar> Ah interesting. I didn't know that.
[02:38] <ghking> hello, every one I have use grub4dos to boot ubuntu.iso in my flash disk, but it note ''unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[02:38] <th0r> KrisHansen, no need to reinstall if you already have lxde
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> ghking, Why are you using grub4dos?
[02:39] <Mathias> would i be able to purge unity and compiz just to reinstall them? apt-get --purge remove blah
[02:39] <KrisHansen> wilee-nilee: any reason i would want to do a clean install of lubuntu , or can i just choose it from gear icon? th0r alread answered that ok
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> Mathias, Bad Idea.
[02:39] <w30> th0r,  the apps are lighter abiword instead of oofice etc.
, then use what
[02:39] <th0r> KrisHansen, the only advantage would be a savings in disk space
[02:39] <KrisHansen> th0r: ok
[02:39] <KrisHansen> bbl thanks geeks
[02:39] <th0r> w30, not necessarily...you can install abiword and gnumeric...ooffice would just sit there taking up a bit of disk space
[02:40] <Mathias> where's the log for compiz located?
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> KrisHansen, Depends, with what you have now, you have all the ubuntu apps, but run from a lighter desktop, and the additional lubuntu apps, try the live cd of ubuntu to see if that is all you need.
[02:40] <readyjar> Is there anywhere I can set changing workspaces to show what the workspace is? Similar to coverflow alt tab
[02:40] <th0r> w30, apps sitting on the hard drive do not consume system resources...they don't slow anything down
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> ghking, Use what for what?
[02:41] <w30> th0r, you are entirely correct but if you only have abiword thats what you be using unless you install oofice also.
[02:42] <th0r> w30, so I should choose my distro because I can't discipline myself to boot up the faster app?
[02:42] <wilee-nilee> ghking, Ah, grub4dos, you can load the usb with any number of ISO loaders, unetbootin comes to mind first or the multisystem multi iso booter.
[02:44] <w30> th0r, not really when you get satisfied with either one you will have a few  heavy apps that you gotta have  in either distro
, I also have used grub2, but it's the same as grub4dos. I think it's iso's problem
[02:44] <w30> th0r, install a heavt distro and take stuff out or choose a light one and add stuff
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> !md5 | ghking
[02:46] <mojtaba> Hi, I have a HTML file which have some email address in it. Does anybody know how can I extract those email addresses from this file via CMD?
[02:46] <Mathias> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5785687/ when i try compiz --replace
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> w30, f you go to this website you can get whole list to remove whole desktops if needed if available for a release, 13.04 has not been added yet. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[02:46] <wilee-nilee> If*
[02:47] <w30> th0r, on my 3.6 ssd drive, I have tobe careful    *ha*
[02:48] <w30> th0r, with xp on it I could not even install word. It was too big an app
[02:51] <somsip> mojtaba: depends how they are formatted, but using grep to find a regex might be a start
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> Mathias, What s the ubuntu release you are running?
[02:53] <mojtaba> somsip: could you please explain more about the formatting and regex? (I am a newbie)
[02:53] <Mathias> ubuntu 13.04 64-bit
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> Mathias, I believe compiz --replace is not a correct command anymore.
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> Mathias, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/how-to-reset-unity-compiz-in-ubuntu-12-10-and-13-04
[02:56] <Raw-G> Hello, ubuntu newb here. I just installed ubuntu 12.04 on my PC and I can't use my usb mouse. I'm only able to use my trackpad. I know almost nothing about tweaking ubuntu. A little help would be great.
[02:56] <somsip> mojtaba: it's outside the scope of this support channel really. Start here and explore a little http://is.gd/ZTMulp
[02:57] <mojtaba> somsip: Thank you very much
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> Raw-G, Naming the mouse would be a good start.
[02:59] <Raw-G> It's a gaming mouse from Perixx
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> Raw-G, Do you have other mouses to try?
[03:00] <th0r> mice?
[03:00] <Raw-G> unfortunately this is the only mouse I got
[03:00] <Raw-G> It works on Win 8
[03:00] <cstewart> Does USB in general work?
[03:00] <cstewart> can you try a usb flash drive or anything to determine if its the mouse or usb
[03:00] <Raw-G> yeah my external drives and an ipod are hooked up and they are recognized
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> Raw-G, This is not windows, you probably needs drivers if it works at all, I would run the mouse model and ubuntu on the web and look.
[03:01] <Mathias> wilee-nilee: dconf nags about dbus
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> or linux in general
[03:01] <john_doe_jr> Why would I be getting a ssh_exchange_identification error when using ssh?
[03:02] <somsip> john_doe_jr: what port is ssh server running on and how are you trying to connect to it?
[03:02] <john_doe_jr> somsip: I'm just using ssh myusername@myserver
[03:03] <john_doe_jr> somsip: I'm assuming port 22
[03:03] <wilee-nilee> Mathias, I don't use unity, and your description is lacking details so it is a bit tougher to figure out what is going on. An exact description of what is happening is helpful, not to me but the channel.
[03:03] <somsip> john_doe_jr: use ssh -vvv... it will give more details
[03:04] <wilee-nilee> Raw-G, Have you checked the manufacturers site for linux drivers?
[03:04] <Mathias> wilee-nilee: i'm installing xubuntu-desktop now i i don't have to use a couple of minutes just to copy/paste an url
[03:04] <cstewart> john doe - Do you get no identities found?
[03:05] <somsip> !tab | cstewart
[03:05] <john_doe_jr> somsip: This is what I get: Incorrect RSA1 identifier
[03:05] <cstewart> Somsip thanks
[03:07] <cstewart> Could the host name of the server have changed that your connecting too, or have you already exchanged different keys
[03:07] <somsip> john_doe_jr: anything else? Post the whole output but mask any personal details.
[03:07] <somsip> !paste | john_doe_jr
[03:12] <Raw-G> Hmm, I just checked the manufacturer's website and they don't happen to have the linux drivers
[03:14] <racarter> hi, I can't connect with my linux laptop to my wireless internet when I try to set a WPA personal passphrase
[03:14] <racarter> not sure how to debug that, I used to be able to connect when with my macbook, when I had a macbook
[03:16] <wilee-nilee> Raw-G, That mouse may not run in linux, you will have to investigate whether it will, and in ubuntu
[03:16] <w30> does Ubuntu have a imagebinit command?
[03:17] <wilee-nilee> racarter, Run lspci in the terminal and identify the wifi info, if it will not connect at all.
[03:19] <racarter> well atm I am connected through the wired internet, but it looks like I am connected with only a mac address filter... not sure what I'm looking for with lspci
[03:19] <racarter> looks like I'm also connected with the wireless with only a mac address filter*
[03:20] <jdale> hello
[03:26] <chaotix> hi....  is there a way to create a .desktop shortcut file that is an internet bookmark?
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> racarter, Run one or the other command here, lspci | grep -i wireless    or    lspci | grep Broadcom
[03:28] <chaotix> if so, what do i put for type?  i have tried a few different ones.....  back in the day there was a create launcher option in the right click menu, and one of the options was to make a bookmark...  i have gotten used to editing my own .desktop file shortcuts on my own, but i fo not know how to make one that is simply a bookmark
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> Those may be incorrect I just run lspci and look through for info, you would be looking for the wf info, like the card. racarter
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> wifi*
[03:30] <racarter> wilee-nilee: I get something along the lines of "Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945AB..."
[03:31] <racarter> wilee-nilee: and I get it regardless of whether or not I'm connected
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> racarter, So, does it work with a no password link?
[03:31] <rylinaux> If I have a partition mounted on /, do I need to turn the bootable flag on in the installer? or is that just for partitions that are mounted on /boot
[03:32] <racarter> wilee-nilee: yes
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> racarter, In the past when I had this same problem I confirm the type of key wep or wpa and deleted the one entered in the network manager and tried again.
[03:34] <racarter> I've tried WPA Personal and WPA2 Personal
[03:34] <racarter> I have no idea what the difference is, I guess I'll just cycle through them all
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> racarter, Deleting the password already in the manager has worked for me upon trying again.
[03:35] <holstein> racarter: can you connect with encryption off?
[03:35] <racarter> holstein: yes
[03:35] <racarter> wilee-nilee: you mean just delete it from the "Edit Connections..." in the UI thing?
[03:35] <racarter> (using Ubuntu, gnome 12.01 I think)
[03:35] <holstein> racarter: yes.. that is where i would delete it from.. that should work
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> racarter, I'm using gnome 3 so I'm not sure the manager you are using.
[03:36] <Ububegin> Is there any command to increase my swap space ?
[03:36] <racarter> wilee-nilee: I'm pretty sure I've tried that before
[03:36] <racarter> but I shall try again
[03:36] <Ububegin> I dont want to use partition magic etc
[03:36] <holstein> Ububegin: i would mount from a live CD and use what you are talking about.. gparted from a live CD
[03:36] <racarter> assuming I have a mac address filter, is the encryption password really just there to slow down people who want to hack my wireles?
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> Ububegin, You can rebuild it from gparted, if you have a desktop
[03:37] <holstein> racarter: you can ask in a security channel.. otherwise, do what makes you feel safe.. i dont do mac filtering
[03:38] <xee> hi
[03:38] <xee> i have a problem if u dont mind telling?
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> !ask | xee
[03:39] <xee> oh ok
[03:39] <futuragora> share
[03:39] <madprops> !nicotine | futuragora
[03:39] <xee> i am looking for someone to be my partner in facebook page
[03:39] <xee> i made that page for UBUNTU spread
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> ! ot | xee
[03:42] <EDocToor> I have a LAN with many computers a gaming and two ubuntu computers on Ubuntu one the IP is lets say 198.168.1.100 and on Ubuntu the IP is 198.168.1.101 ... Ok on the 100 computer I can type localhost and get my webpage... but what if I am on the second ubuntu computer... can I access the localhost of the 098.168.1.100? If so what do I need to know.. or need to type
[03:44] <Nick119119> Hey guys! How do I switch .jar files to open with Java? When I click the openwith tab it shows archive manager and a load of files unrelated to Java, but if I rightclick and 'openwith' It shows java
[03:44] <Nick119119> Java just doesn't show up to make it default
[03:49] <sere> Question : whats the best way to hide your ip.. are the any free solutions
[03:50] <holstein> !ot | sere try a security channel
[03:51] <midgetsp> I have ubuntu 8.04 which has an old (2.6.3) version of mdadm in its package repo. what is the simplest way to get a newer mdadm on my box?
[03:51] <Guest56151> just installed 13.04, had plymouth 0.8.8-Oubuntu6 crash? anyone have this problem?
[03:52] <holstein> midgetsp: i would upgrade to a supported OS
[03:52] <midgetsp> holstein: that's the easiest way?
[03:53] <holstein> midgetsp: thats what i call the easy way..
[03:54] <Nick119119> How can I make something to do java -jar somefile.jar yada yada, like a .bat file in windows?
[03:54] <sere> midgetsp: you can build your own package if needed.. so you dont have to upgrade your whole system and it would be alot quicker!
[03:54] <fungus_> so i thought all the problems i was having with green and purple half sized video windows was my intel 855gm video card... nope its flash player. i am running lubuntu 13.04 since i was under the impression that it would run much nicer than windows xp on my old toshiba sattelite s155 lappy. boy was i wrong! this has been a horrible experience and i am very quikly losing my faith in linux entirely.
[03:55] <bigroomsmallhous> i think ubuntu is popular with the ladies
[03:55] <fungus_> my father told me linux was a bad idea but since he wouldnt give me the xp cd here i am a week later and still screwed
[03:56] <fungus_> i would very much like to prove him wrong... any help with this flash issue
[03:56] <jrbass> fungus: ubuntu is great
[03:56] <midgetsp> sere: how would I go about that?
[03:57] <bigroomsmallhous> who is your father?
[03:57] <fungus_> surprisingly enough i uninstalled flash (says mozzilla and ive been using chromium) youtube worked! displayed message at top install flash player but dissapeared and played fine
[03:57] <bigroomsmallhous> the ladies love ubuntu
[03:57] <jrbass> fungus: i just installed it on an old Dell 4550 with an AGP radeon 128mb, and it works great
[03:57] <fungus_> but now it wont
[03:57] <fungus_> i got to watch one video
[03:58] <fungus_> all the flash versions r for firefox it seems
[03:58] <sere> midgetsp: checkinstall is pretty simple... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[03:58] <Diamondcite> fungus_: Which browser did you view flash properly with once? Chrome or Mozilla?
[03:58] <fungus_> chromium
[03:59] <Diamondcite> fungus_: Supposedly, chrome has it's own built in flash while firefox uses flash plugin installer
[03:59] <jrbass> yea, what ^ said
[04:00] <fungus_> supposedly... but when i uninstalled mozilla chromium and flash... reinstalled chromium says missing plugin
[04:01] <fungus_> so i tried uninstalling chromium and running firefox with flash plugin purple and green half sized screen
[04:01] <Diamondcite> fungus_: Was hardware acceleration enabled? If so possibly try to turn it off.
[04:02] <fungus_> cant... when i right click in window and settings the screen opens up to disable but i cannot change anything on menu screen
[04:02] <Diamondcite> fungus_: How about re-installing flashplugin-installer and trying chrome once more?
[04:02] <holstein> fungus_: chrome, not chromium.. has its own flash, if you would like to test
[04:02] <sere> Question : whats an easy way to hide ip with ubuntu... i know i can use a proxy and i know a few other methods but im wanted a more native way with ubuntu .. something from the repos.. i came across a few ubuntu docs about this but cant seem to find them now
[04:02] <fungus_> so try chrome?
[04:03] <holstein> sere: that is not an "on topic" question here.. if you google that, you would likely come up with tor..
[04:03] <holstein> !tor
[04:03] <fungus_> no packages for chrome
[04:04] <holstein> fungus_: you download chrome from the chrome site.. the .deb
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> fungus_, Chrome can be found on the web
[04:04] <sere> holstein: how can it not be on topic if there is ubuntu software for doing this and ubuntu docs.. thats like saying dont ask for nvidia or support for playing movies ?
[04:04] <fungus_> and i can run with linux?
[04:04] <fungus_> yeah looks like
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> fungus_, When removing apps, if you do not purge the config and main file stays
[04:05] <holstein> sere: refer to the link i gave..
[04:05] <fungus_> ah...
[04:05] <fungus_> so essentially my system is currupt as hell
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> fungus_, So for example if  wanted to remove firefox it would be sudo apt-get purge firefox
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> darn i key only works half the time.
[04:06] <sere> holstein: thanks and sorry if i am off topic
[04:07] <fungus_> unfortunatly i have been on a downlaoding and uninstalling spree trying desperatly anything to fix this problem
[04:07] <holstein> fungus_: how did the chrome browser work?
[04:07] <k-stz> If a driver works on 2.6, it won't work on kernel 3.2 right? If I have
[04:07] <k-stz> 	the source code can I just compile it for 3.2?
[04:08] <fungus_> downloading right now like 1 min left
[04:08] <fungus_> 2 mins
[04:08] <holstein> k-stz: you can try it and see.. but if the creator doesnt guarantee, then its not garanteed, or made to work with 3.2
[04:08] <Ben64> fungus_: disable hardware acceleration in flash, might solve your problem
[04:08] <fungus_> i hope it works... than ill reinstall lubuntu (minimal this time) and use chrome
[04:08] <fungus_> cant
[04:09] <fungus_> cant change settings
[04:09] <Ben64> why not
[04:09] <holstein> fungus_: what settings? where?
[04:09] <sere> fungus_: chromium is the open source version of chrome.. why not use that since your running an open source distro? alot better support..
[04:09] <fungus_> sigh
[04:09] <holstein> sere: i suggested it due to the included flash version.. as a troubleshooting step
[04:10] <fungus_> *slams head against wall*
[04:10] <k-stz> holstein: what is more probable to work, compiling the source code, or use the compiled driver from 2.6?
[04:10] <fungus_> support?!
[04:10] <Ben64> fungus_: i gave you a suggestion. try it
[04:10] <holstein> k-stz: ask the creator of the software
[04:11] <fungus_> alright when i right click the flash window and than settings i cannot click the box to disable acceleration
[04:11] <fungus_> the screen is half sized green and purple and thats it
[04:11] <fungus_> i can pause and play nothing else
[04:11] <holstein> fungus_: i think he is referring to 3d acceleration.. in the system, not in flash
[04:12] <fungus_> well great how do i do that
[04:12] <Ben64> no in flash
[04:12] <holstein> fungus_: in chrome? you have that behavior?
[04:12] <Ben64> try it on a youtube video
[04:12] <Chocolatey> Heya! So I want to set jars to open with java by default, but java doesn't appear in the openwith menu, How do I get it there? I have java 7
[04:12] <fungus_> forgive me for being crass but i kinda need relativly specific instructions because if i knew how to do that i would have
[04:13] <fungus_> installing chrome now
[04:13] <miamispurs> hi, how do i install macchanger on ubuntu  13.04. terminal and ubuntu software center couldn't find "macchanger"
[04:13] <Chocolatey> I can right click and open with java, so that means it's recomended, but I can't make it default cause it's not in the full openwith menu
[04:14] <sere> holstein: oh ok.. i missed your comment :x i remember seeing a flash bug about fullscreen not working properly i dunno if that might help ya
[04:14] <fungus_> like i said im simply looking for a lightweight out of the box FUNCTIONAL os for my old lappy 40 gig hdd 1gig ram
[04:14] <splinter7011> miamispurs i assume you want to change your mac address, you can do that through network manager without any more programs
[04:14] <miamispurs> splinter7011: yes, i want to change my MAC address. Thanks for the tip on network manager. will try it now. :-)
[04:15] <splinter7011> no worries mate
[04:15] <holstein> fungus_: have realistic expectations... flash is notoriously bad.. i think you'll see the best case scneario with chrome, since it has the *only* up to date version of flash for linux
[04:15] <miamispurs> splinter7011: when u say "network manager", is that the same thing as "network connections"?
[04:16] <fungus_> after trying ubuntu xubuntu kubuntu and much research decided lubuntu... supposedly the lightest functional os especially designed for coms older than mine
[04:16] <holstein> fungus_: they are all ubuntu.. the same kernel. same repos
[04:16] <miamispurs> in terminal, what command will let me see my MAC address?
[04:17] <fungus_> worked great on xp
[04:17] <holstein> fungus_: what i am talking about is flash.. flash is *not* designed for older computers like yours.. it progresses..
[04:17] <holstein> fungus_: the XP support is irrelevant, since the drivers are not made necessarily for your hardware under linux.. and flash is certainly not
[04:18] <fungus_> never had a problem with xp just com was getting swamped and i wanted something more lightweight and functional and people ranted about how lubuntu gave their pc a complete overhall speading it up
[04:18] <houser> Hello. In my browser (chromium) i get an error saysing Could not load Java Plug-in 1.7.0_21 How can i fix that? I need this to access vital information on the internet
[04:19] <holstein> !java | houser
[04:19] <fungus_> opening chrome... *crosses fingers*
[04:20] <houser> holstein, i know this, and i have already installed both jre and sdk
[04:20] <wilee-nilee> fungus_, There are lighter linux OS than lubuntu, puppylinux, damn small linux and some others.
[04:21] <holstein> houser: you can see that java is enabled in the browser, though i would turn it off when you are done
[04:21] <houser> holstein, i can easily do man java in my terminal
[04:21] <fungus_> HELL YEAH!
[04:21] <bigroomsmallhous> in anyones opinion what was the best ubuntu in recent mediocrity?
[04:21] <houser> holstein, it is enabled yes, yet it cannot be loaded
[04:21] <Diamondcite> fungus_: How reliant are you on a graphical interface?
[04:22] <fungus_> very
[04:22] <Diamondcite> fungus_: Dang, the more resources spent on looks the heavier =/
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> ! ot | bigroomsmallhous
[04:22] <houser> holstein, why cant it load the java plugin?
[04:22] <holstein> houser: how do you know it is enabled? what is the error message?
[04:22] <fungus_> video playing amazing in chrome
[04:22] <fungus_> wow
[04:22] <houser> holstein, error message is: Could not load Java Plug-in 1.7.0_21
[04:23] <fungus_> a whole week of wasted time... all i had to do was install chrome
[04:23] <houser> holstein, I know because it used to work fine and suddently it dont
[04:23] <fungus_> i thank u so very much
[04:23] <houser> holstein, it keeps telling me to upgrade java
[04:24] <houser> holstein, but i was under the impression that the packet manager should keep things updated for me
[04:24] <fungus_> yeah other sites working great too
[04:24] <fungus_> wow
[04:24] <bigroomsmallhous> what is the best ubuntu?
[04:24] <xangua> !best | bigroomsmallhous
[04:26] <holstein> houser: at the link i gave you, you see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_Java_7 where there are ways of having the most current version, if you need it
[04:28] <fungus_> alright time to reinstall so i have a nice fresh unadulterated os functioning like i want
[04:28] <bigroomsmallhous> technical question : ubuntu bot told me firefox was the bet ubuntu how do i fix that
[04:29] <holstein> bigroomsmallhous: bet?
[04:30] <fungus_> btw... besides music video and web i dabble in mmorpgs (played the hell out of dungeons and dragons online. and started getting into everquest) anything cool for linux
[04:31] <holstein> !ot | fungus_
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> holstein, Nice to see assisting on this channel lately. ;)
[04:32] <fungus_> alright... thank u so much as my faith is now restored in linux (somewhat) and i can now show my dad that i did it...
[04:33] <fungus_> such a simple fix too.... wow
[04:33] <sere> fungus_: heres a few : http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/category/gaming
[04:33] <bigroomsmallhous> how do i list rooms on the server
[04:33] <bigroomsmallhous> using IRC
[04:33] <somsip> !alis | bigroomsmallhous
[04:35] <theadmin> bigroomsmallhous: In general, /list. On Freenode there's thousands of channel, so I recommend using alis as somsip said.
[04:35] <houser> holstein, when i follow that link, i come to: http://www.duinsoft.nl/packages.php?t=en and i download the .bin file and do sh update-sun-jre.bin. then a lot of stuff happens and in the end it says cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/share/update-sun-jre/support.tar.gz': No such file or directory
[04:36] <holstein> houser: i use a ppa.. the webupdate ppa for the current java
[04:36] <THE_DUDEZ0R> what's wrong with this command? "sudo iptables add reject src-ip 173.194.55.0/24 in"
[04:37] <houser> holstein, i really think java is a big mess :/
[04:37] <THE_DUDEZ0R> I get iptable complaining about "add", saying unkwnown attribute or something like that
[04:37] <holstein> houser: i try and avoid it, and flash.. but if you need them, you need them..
[04:38] <houser> holstein, problem is that banks and all public institutions in my country require java :/
[04:38] <theadmin> houser: Sun has been dead for ages, so anything with "sun" in the name is suspicious at best. You can get Oracle Java from java.com but I recommend using apt-get and install openjdk-7-jre
[04:39] <MinecraftRocks> fail
[04:39] <MinecraftRocks> how do I join a different channel?
[04:39] <theadmin> MinecraftRocks: /join #channelname
[04:39] <roger21> /j #pouet
[04:39] <somsip> MinecraftRocks: /j #channelname
[04:39] <MinecraftRocks> kk thx
[04:40] <houser> holstein, Warning:  Could not find package list for PPA: eugenesan java
[04:40] <roger21> can i change the keys of my openssh server?
[04:40] <holstein> houser: i always just refer to the link i gave.. and get the lastest versions
[04:41] <houser> holstein, sure thats the link im trying to use
[04:41] <houser> holstein, but its not working
[04:41] <fungus_> although unfortunatly i still suspect to have problems with my intel 855gm chipset and gaming... ill have to cross that bridge later
[04:41] <roger21> how does it works anyway, i install sshd does it creates keys @ install ?
[04:42] <holstein> houser: is it not working just for that one site? have you tried another browser? firefox?
[04:43] <houser> holstein, last time i tried FF with java which is quite some time ago it crashed, which is why i use chromium for java
[04:45] <Manju> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS Server with PHP Version 5.3.2-1ubuntu4.19 Apache/2.2.14 (Ubuntu).
[04:45] <holstein> houser: it literally wont hurt you to try as a troubleshooting step
[04:45] <Manju> I am login to the server via putty. I want upgrade to php 5.4. I could not find the correct code for it from Google. I am not expert in Linux. Please help me step by step. When I run #apt-get upgrade Comand, comes faild message on following page. http://paste.ubuntu.com/5785298/
[04:45] <holstein> Manju: the easy way for me, would be to just upgrade to a supported ubuntu version.. 12.04 for example
[04:45] <fungus_> yeah playing a simple 3d chess game... EXTREMELY choppy and laggy
[04:46] <somsip> !info php5 precise
[04:46] <theadmin> somsip: 10.04 is Lucid... :D
[04:46] <theadmin> !info php5 lucid
[04:46] <fungus_> i think im just screwed with this intel 855gm chipset
[04:46] <somsip> theadmin: holstein recommend 12.04, thats php 5.3.10 and OP wants 5.4
[04:46] <theadmin> fungus_: Yeah, Intel is no good for 3D, no matter the OS
[04:47] <Hyperiant> I need help making a script executable by double-click; does anybody know how to do that?
[04:47] <theadmin> somsip: Ah
[04:47] <holstein> somsip: what was from the last time he posted, and said he was running 8.04
[04:47] <theadmin> holstein: 10.04 server IS supported
[04:47] <holstein> theadmin: yes.. i was remembering the last time.. and responding
[04:47] <somsip> holstein: you'd dead right though - he needs an upgrade to a newer version
[04:47] <holstein> wont hurt :)
[04:47] <Manju> versions 10.04 LTS (server) also still supoted product
[04:48] <holstein> Manju: correct.. you stated 8.04 last time you asked that question
[04:48] <somsip> Manju: that doesn't mean it's gets new versions of software - just bugfixes
[04:48] <theadmin> Manju: You are correct, Lucid is still supported on servers, but upgrading to newer software on this version may be a pain. It is, after all, over 3 years old
[04:48] <fungus_> well played everquest with xp... i have an old dell d800 it has intel chipset and a sister nvidia. want to install lubuntu on her but cant cause something about pae?
[04:49] <holstein> fungus_: again, the XP support is irreleant
[04:49] <holstein> irrelevant*
[04:49] <somsip> Manju: so you either need to use 12.10, 13.04 or a PPA, and you will be lucky to get a PPA that works given that...
[04:49] <theadmin> fungus_: PAE? If the laptop doesn't support PAE, your best bet is the Netinstall image
[04:49] <somsip> !ppa | Manju
[04:50] <fungus_> read something about that... i think i can use 12.04 right?
[04:50] <theadmin> fungus_: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads - see the netinstall section. You can install all Ubuntu versions through the netinstall, not just Ubuntu itself
[04:50] <theadmin> fungus_: That is, Lubuntu, Xubuntu and so on as well
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> +1 net install
[04:51] <theadmin> fungus_: Just get the no pae image
[04:51] <houser> holstein, icedtea6-plugin i think thats the name of the jre i have been using so far which for some reason is not working any longer
[04:51] <Manju> I am using this server for moodle. actualy i want upgrade moodle to last version
[04:52] <Hyperiant> I know how to execute scripts via the terminal, but for some reason every time I double-click my script it opens gedit instead of executing it
[04:52] <Hyperiant> I've made it executable, but it doesn't run
[04:53] <holstein> houser: i stopped using that when it stopped working for me.. use the version that theadmin suggested apt-get and install openjdk-7-jre
[04:53] <Manju> moodle 2.5 Requires: PHP 5.3.3
[04:53] <theadmin> houser: For the web plugin, you'll need the icedtea-7-plugin
[04:53] <holstein> Manju: this is kind of OT, but its handy, and works live, if you are in a hurry http://www.turnkeylinux.org/moodle
[04:54] <Manju> but iam testing this upgrade not in production sever
[04:54] <houser> theadmin,  actually what i can see is that i have  icedtea-7-jre-jamvm installed using dpkg -l
[04:54] <somsip> Manju: then you need 12.04 or newer
[04:54] <theadmin> houser: Eh, the jamvm version isn't a great idea, get the plain one
[04:54] <houser> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5785891/
[04:54] <Hyperiant> More accurately, I'm trying to make it so that Nautilus is able to alter permissions and change file attributes; by default, every time I try to do this, Nautilus tells me I'm not the owner and don't have permission
[04:55] <houser> theadmin, ok so i remove that one?
[04:56] <theadmin> houser: Yesh, sudo apt-get purge icedtea-7-jamvm && sudo apt-get install icedtea-7-plugin
[04:56] <Hyperiant> And Nautilus won't let me copy to certain folders, either
[04:56] <Nick119119> Alright guys, this might be a stupid question but I need to ask it. I've managed to get into my root account, changed the password and all that. How do I make it so my other account with all my stuff on it has root access?
[04:56] <somsip> !sudoers | Nick119119
[04:56] <bigroomsmallhous> sudo
[04:56] <silv3r_m00n> i am running 13.04 inside virtualbox, its quite slow, very sluggish
[04:56] <roasted> Question - does anybody know with rsync exclude lists if I need to put the full path of each exclude in the list, or do I just need to put the sub dirs from the source in the exclude list?
[04:57] <theadmin> Nick119119: ...Don't use root accounts, use sudo
[04:57] <somsip> Nick119119: take a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers
[04:57] <Hyperiant> I'm aware that I can use the terminal to do these things, but I'm also aware that Nautilus (with root) can also do these things
[04:57] <theadmin> silv3r_m00n: You'll need to enable 3D acceleration in the VM properties and maybe give it more video memory
[04:57] <theadmin> Hyperiant: gksudo nautilus
[04:57] <theadmin> Hyperiant: Then do whatever
[04:57] <houser> theadmin, thank you....icedtea-7-plugin worked
[04:57] <Nick119119> I use sudo, but I'm trying to make a .desktop file executable and it keeps saying "Does user have root access?"
[04:57] <theadmin> houser: Tada
[04:58] <houser> theadmin, wow...thats really a mess
[04:58] <houser> theadmin, 100000 different java packages....how hard can it be to make just a single
[04:58] <Hyperiant> theadmin: gksudo nautilus is run from the terminal; I've written a script: "gksudo -m nautilus" and saved it to a .sh file, but double-clicking it doesn't run it
[04:58] <houser> theadmin, anyway, thx
[04:58] <silv3r_m00n> theadmin: let me check
[04:59] <theadmin> houser: Some apps only run with Java 6 (Minecraft for example), some need Java 7, and then there are the web plugins (icedtea) and alternative Java implementations such as jamvm and so on
[04:59] <Hyperiant> theadmin: I want to make this into a button for the sidebar, but unless I can get it to run on click, that isn't going to happen
[04:59] <theadmin> houser: All makes sense to me
[05:01] <silv3r_m00n> theadmin: it became even slower, gave it 3d acceleration, 128mb video mem, 2gb ram, 2 cores
[05:01] <iceroot> theadmin: minecraft is running fine with java7 :)
[05:01] <theadmin> iceroot: Oh, good to hear, didn't last time I tried
[05:01] <theadmin> iceroot: Was long ago tho
[05:01] <Sector_0> Can someone help me get my wecam working on ubuntu 12.04?
[05:01] <theadmin> silv3r_m00n: ...hamsters.
[05:01] <silv3r_m00n> theadmin: hmm, may be i need to install guest additions
[05:02] <theadmin> silv3r_m00n: Oh, that'd help
[05:02] <iceroot> theadmin: openjdk7 of course :) never tried this evil oracle java7
[05:02] <Hyperiant> In Windows you can execute .bat files by simply double-clicking them; unless I'm mistaken, it's possible to do this with .sh files in Ubuntu, but nobody seems to know how
[05:02] <theadmin> iceroot: Well, duh :)
[05:02] <Sector_0> it's a generic webcam so I won't be able to give you a brand name
[05:02] <Sector_0> dmesg shows te webcam is connected and everything but then lsusb doesn't show it
[05:03] <Sector_0> and as you would expect it doesn't work with any apps
[05:03] <theadmin> Hyperiant: In the filemanager settings, check the "Executable Text Files" is set to "Run executable files when they are opened" or "Ask every time", like this: http://i.imgur.com/siQ9KNu.png
[05:03] <houser> theadmin, web plugins and alternaive plugins? require java 6 or 7...what ever happened to backward compatibility and user-friendly programs? Java is getting even worse than ruby :/
[05:03] <theadmin> houser: Not as bad as Python
[05:03] <George_> Hello, does anyone know why the Ubuntu 12.04 Recovery Mode feature isn't working on a Macbook? It simply shows a black screen.
[05:03] <houser> theadmin, python is way better
[05:04] <theadmin> houser: Nah, Python 2 stuff doesn't work in Python 3 at all most of the time
[05:04] <theadmin> houser: Then there's also a load of libraries etc...
[05:04] <iceroot> Hyperiant: of course its possible on GNU/Linux too but on GNU/Linux the exstension .sh is unimportant, because a script can also be named "ping" without ".sh" normally scripts on GNU/Linux dont have an extension
[05:04] <Hyperiant> theadmin: How do I get to File Manager settings?
[05:04] <theadmin> Hyperiant: Eh, depends on your Ubuntu version, what are you running?
[05:05] <Hyperiant> theadmin: 13.04
[05:05] <iceroot> Hyperiant: ping, top, apt-get, vim, emacs, df    as you see, no extensions for that programs
[05:05] <houser> theadmin, the amount of time i have used python i didnt have any problems...but i didnt try different versions of it like 2 and 3
[05:05] <theadmin> Hyperiant: Open the filemanager, then Files -> Preferences in the top bar
[05:05] <theadmin> iceroot: emacs isn't a program, it's an operating system ;)
[05:06] <iceroot> theadmin: without a good editor :)
[05:06] <George_> I can't boot into recovery mode to change my password, i'm fucked. I've also already tried using a usb stick as well with no luck.
[05:06] <iceroot> theadmin: but if i am correct emacs has a vim-mode :)
[05:06] <theadmin> iceroot: Yeah, is called "evil mode"
[05:06] <iceroot> theadmin: ;)
[05:06] <Hyperiant> theadmin, iceroot: Okay, now I have a new problem; my script to open gksudo nautilus doesn't actually function
[05:06] <theadmin> iceroot: But what's the point?
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> ! Language | George_
[05:07] <theadmin> Hyperiant: Does it start with #!/bin/bash? Has to.
[05:07] <iceroot> theadmin: just the normal editor flamewar ;)  everything fine
[05:07] <George_> sorry
[05:07] <Hyperiant> theadmin: Yes, it does
[05:07] <iceroot> Hyperiant: chmod +x scriptname
[05:07] <theadmin> Hyperiant: Hmmm... Can I of seeings script?
[05:07] <iceroot> Hyperiant: it must be executable
[05:07] <theadmin> Hyperiant: Pastebinit please
[05:08] <George_> how long does ubuntu boot from Live CD usually take?
[05:08] <iceroot> George_: depending on the system. here it takes maybe 30-60 seconds
[05:09] <Hyperiant> theadmin, iceroot: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5785914
[05:09] <theadmin> George_: Around a minute or two for me, for the DVDs even slower
[05:09] <Manju> ok how can i upgrade 10.04 to 12.04
[05:09] <George_> Hmm. I've Read forums where its taken a long time on Mac especially, however, this is taking so long I think its not working.
[05:09] <theadmin> Hyperiant: That doesn't have the actual command... Remove the -m
[05:09] <iceroot> !upgrade | Manju
[05:09] <Hyperiant> iceroot: It's allowed as executable
[05:10] <theadmin> Hyperiant: Or something like this: gksudo -m "Enter password to run nautilus as root: " nautilus
[05:10] <Hyperiant> theadmin: I removed the -m but it still doesn't run
[05:10] <George_> I've also tried esc on boot and editing grub by deleting ro splash and adding rw=/bin/sh. I even tried deleting "quiet", I just get a black screen of death after Ubuntu tries to initialize.
[05:11] <theadmin> Hyperiant: Hm..
[05:11] <theadmin> Hyperiant: Works for me, a simple #!/bin/bash followed by gksudo nautilus
[05:11] <George_> I forgot passwd
[05:12] <Hyperiant> theadmin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5785918
[05:12] <theadmin> Hyperiant: Something like that'll do yeah
[05:12] <Hyperiant> It still doesn't work though
[05:12] <theadmin> Hyperiant: Is gksudo actually installed? Does it work from a terminal?
[05:12] <Hyperiant> I was under the impression gksudo was packaged with Ubuntu
[05:13] <theadmin> Hyperiant: gksudo is not preinstalled on Raring (as all built-in GUI apps use PolicyKit nowadays)
[05:13] <roger21> can someone do me a tasksel --task-packages openssh-server pls
[05:13] <George_> Thank you
[05:13] <Hyperiant> PolicyKit?
[05:13] <Manju> I hav not desktop interface. I am login only via putty
[05:13] <theadmin> Hyperiant: Some new crazy authenication mechanism
[05:13] <theadmin> Hyperiant: Long story short you need to "apt-get install gksu"
[05:13] <Manju> how can i upgrade 10.04 tpo 12.04
[05:13] <theadmin> Manju: sudo do-release-upgrade
[05:14] <George_> Can anyone help me boot into recovery mode please lol
[05:15] <tones> theadmin, will that really work? thought it was best to do a clean install from one lts to the next
[05:15] <theadmin> George_: Try appending "text" to the GRUB commandline
[05:15] <Manju> sudo: command not found
[05:15] <theadmin> Manju: Ehwut. Are you sure this is an Ubuntu system?
[05:15] <iceroot> Manju: cat /etc/issue
[05:15] <theadmin> tones: Upgrades work without problems for me most of the time.
[05:16] <George_> ok
[05:16] <Hyperiant> theadmin: Hip hip hoorah, it actually works; now to figure out where Ubuntu stores its icons so I can change the icon for this script link
[05:16] <somsip> Hyperiant: /usr/share/icons usually
[05:17] <theadmin> Hyperiant: /usr/share/icons and /usr/share/pixmaps, the Nautilus one is under /usr/share/icons/48x48/apps/system-file-manager.png
[05:17] <Manju> root@moodle /# cat /etc/issue
[05:17] <Manju> Ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS \n \l
[05:17] <theadmin> Hyperiant: (replace 48x48 with your launcher icon size for best effect)
[05:17] <George_> theadmin: I'm still trying to boot from an Ubuntu Live CD, if it takes another 15-20min i'll reboot and hit escape but what do you mean by "Try appending "text" to the GRUB commandline"
[05:18] <theadmin> George_: Just like you did with the rw thing, but simply add "text" at the end (no quotes)
[05:18] <George_> 'text'*, and thank you :)
[05:18] <somsip> Manju: er...already logged in as root? Just 'do-release-upgrade'. But care and backup first!
[05:18] <Manju> I am login ssh
[05:18] <Hyperiant> theadmin: Weird, it won't let me drag the link into the launcher
[05:19] <theadmin> Hyperiant: Hm I'm not sure that'd work, might need to add it to the menu first (use alacarte, should be preinstalled)
[05:19] <theadmin> Anyway, be back in a few minutes
[05:19] <Hyperiant> ...what menu
[05:19] <Hyperiant> rofl
[05:19] <Hyperiant> oh, and it isn't preinstalled
[05:20] <Manju> I am testing on test clone server
[05:20] <Manju> no risk
[05:20] <Manju> not production server
[05:21] <yva> is there  way to make super-W show all the windows, not just the one from the current workspace?
[05:22] <w30>  /part
[05:23] <Manju> root@moodle /# do-release-upgrade
[05:23] <Manju>  -bash: do-release-upgrade: command not found
[05:24] <Manju> I am biginer for linux pls help me
[05:27] <bigroomsmallhous> how can i tar from a protected cd anyone?
[05:27] <bigroomsmallhous> to my  **    /
[05:28] <roger21> do it outside
[05:28] <bigroomsmallhous> and then
[05:28] <bigroomsmallhous> to go to " / "
[05:30] <George_> theadmin: I tried adding text to the end of the line the GRUB menu, i'm still getting a black screen of death
[05:30] <George_> trying again with deleting "quiet" option
[05:33] <George_> Sample problem
[05:33] <George_> :(
[05:33] <George_> Same*
[05:36] <Ben64> George_: you should be able to select recovery mode in grub
[05:36] <George_> I am but after selecting it, a lot of white text is ran and then it gets to a black screen
[05:37] <Ben64> George_: what happened that you need to recover?
[05:38] <Manju> hello, can some one help me . thanks
[05:38] <George_> I disabled my user with adduser -l and it was the only root user...
[05:39] <Ben64> George_: there is no -l option for adduser...
[05:39] <George_> This sucks bro I host so many websites I need to get into recovery mode
[05:40] <George_> useradd*
[05:40] <Ben64>       -l, --no-log-init
[05:40] <Ben64>            Do not add the user to the lastlog and faillog databases.
[05:41] <Ben64> anyway, can you still boot into the system normally
[05:41] <George_> sudo passwd -l <username>*
[05:41] <George_> sorry bro
[05:41] <Ben64> make up your mind
[05:41] <George_> lol
[05:42] <Ben64> that just locks the password, doesn't disable the user
[05:42] <George_> I tried unlocking it, says i'm not in /etc/sudoers file.
[05:43] <Ben64> what is the output of "groups"
[05:44] <George_> hold on rebooting
[05:51] <George_> getting black screen on ubuntu boot ...........
[05:51] <George_> checked grub menu
[05:52] <Nick119119> Hey guys! Just a quick question. Usually on this laptop I use soemthing called Razer Gamebooster, is there anything like it for Ubuntu?
[05:52] <faihasai> question: how to rout audio directly into a mic?
[05:55] <decci> I am trying to follow http://oxpedia.org/wiki/index.php?title=Open-Xchange_Installation_Guide_for_Ubuntu_12.04. While adding the repo and running apt-get update I am getting this error: W: GPG error: http://download.opensuse.org  Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 0EB11CDE44F9512B
[05:56] <backwards> hi
[05:58] <Daughain> Morning, all.
[06:00] <erek> im having a massive problem where an app through apt-get fails to install, " kdenlive : Depends: libmlt5 but it is not going to be installed"
[06:02] <George_> Ubuntu stuck on white and orange loading screen after Live CD "Try Ubuntu"
[06:04] <wilee-nilee> decci, http://oxpedia.org/index.php?title=Importing_OX_Buildkey
[06:04] <decci> wilee-nilee: Its not working
[06:05] <wilee-nilee> decci, This link is from a older other link with 8.04 be careful.
[06:05] <decci> wilee-nilee: sudo wget http://software.open-xchange.com/oxbuildkey-community.pub sudo apt-key add - < oxbuildkey-community.pub sudo apt-key list
[06:05] <decci> wilee-nilee: I tried it but still the same error
[06:05] <decci> wilee-nilee: W: GPG error: http://download.opensuse.org  Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 0EB11CDE44F9512B
[06:05] <wilee-nilee> decci, Problem is I don't think this is withn support of this channel, you might try ##linux
[06:05] <decci> wilee-nilee: okay
[06:06] <decci> wilee-nilee: I wonder where can I get it for Ubuntu 12.04
[06:06] <decci> wilee-nilee: But as the link mentions deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/OX:/ox6.22:/backend/xUbuntu_12.04/ /
[06:06] <wilee-nilee> decci, Not sure, I have not messed with servers so beyond me.
[06:06] <decci> wilee-nilee: thats for 12.04...still not working
[06:08] <decci> wilee-nilee: http://web.archiveorange.com/archive/v/6r2m9UveTyizisOqjwlV
[06:08] <erek> im having a massive problem where an app through apt-get fails to install, " kdenlive : Depends: libmlt5 but it is not going to be installed"
[06:09] <decci> wilee-nilee: I tried this time: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 0EB11CDE44F9512B Executing: gpg --ignore-time-conflict --no-options --no-default-keyring --secret-keyring /tmp/tmp.RpRHigqIz9 --trustdb-name /etc/apt/trustdb.gpg --keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --primary-keyring /etc/apt/trusted.gpg --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 0EB11CDE44F9512B gpg: requesting key 44F9512B from hkp server keys
[06:09] <lokus> hi.. i run 10.04, and i'm wondering why my default repo provides a libcurl3, and libcurl4-gnutls-dev, but not libcurl4-gnutls?
[06:09] <decci> wilee-nilee: gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. gpg: Total number processed: 0
[06:14] <tupac_amaru> hola
[06:16] <wilee-nilee> lokus, This a server or with a desktop?
[06:20] <somsip> !info libcurl lucid
[06:21] <Kartagis> !find libcurl lucid
[06:21] <Kartagis> somsip: ^
[06:21] <somsip> Kartagis: yeah - I was just wondering what versions it might suggest. But it didnt
[06:27] <Hyperiant> I'm not getting any audio through my front headphone jack with Ubuntu 13.04
[06:29] <Eargasm> Hello, I cant connect to this wifi after i messed up playing with connecting it thru terminal, the WAP name has spaces with it, so I tried with sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid "My Wifi Network" key "thepassword"
[06:30] <Eargasm> Now I cant connect even thru network manager
[06:31] <lshkn> hi all, it's possibly to minimize files in mc (Midnight Commander) while editing and then switch between this files
[06:31] <lshkn> ?
[06:31] <mathfreak> Eargasm: Have you tried deleting the wireless network entry?
[06:32] <Eargasm> mathfreak: yes i deleted the that profile too, but it aint work
[06:33] <mathfreak> Eargasm: hmmm. What does ifconfig -a say?
[06:34] <buu> lshkn: Have you tried ctrl-z?
[06:34] <Eargasm> mathfreak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5786050/
[06:35] <lshkn> buu: not work
[06:35] <buu> lshkn: dunno. use bash then.
[06:37] <mathfreak> Eargasm: Does wlan0 show up if you just use ifconfig?
[06:37] <Eargasm> mathfreak: yes
[06:38] <lshkn> buu:  i work to some
[06:38] <lshkn> oops
[06:38] <buu> Bash is your friend!
[06:39] <decci> I have postfix running on Ubuntu machine. I need to redirect the mails stored to some different directory
[06:39] <decci> I have a mount point as /Server01/MailStore/
[06:40] <mathfreak> Eargasm: Is the network you're connecting to using WPA?
[06:40] <Eargasm> mathfreak: no, WEP
[06:42] <mathfreak> Eargasm: Ah. I'm stumped. Maybe someone else can give some advice. :S
[06:45] <Eargasm> mathfreak: are there any error logs i can look up to regarding wireless network problem?
[06:47] <mathfreak> Eargasm: Messages will most likely be in /var/log/syslog
[06:49] <mathfreak> Eargasm: I guess another good spot to look would be /var/log/kern.log
[06:56] <jccl1706> hi anyone knows any solution to this problem, connection: Failed to connect to socket / org/freedesktop/systemd1/private
[07:04] <no-n> anybody ever got "keys:press any key to reboot" instead of "no errors found", after booting ubuntu usb installer and selecting "Check Integrity"?
[07:08] <TheThorinium>  l
[07:14] <jccl1706> hi anyone knows any solution to this problem, connection: Failed to connect to socket / org/freedesktop/systemd1/private
[07:16] <levo> is there any way i delete KDE desktop without harming to my other things? ((my main desktop is unity on ubunutu 12.04))
[07:16] <levo> and how
[07:16] <levo> ?
[07:30] <wilee-nilee> levo, Look at the playing around section in the left panel for removing desktops, be sure you are on the 12.04 page, when you use the list to to this. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/
[07:33] <chispitas> fhifhifhfhf
[07:33] <levo> wilee-nilee: i have lxde and am using it, does removing KDE affect lxde?
[07:34] <chispitas> en si que hay gente
[07:34] <wilee-nilee> levo, lxde installed in a ubuntu install?
[07:34] <levo> ys
[07:34] <levo> yes
[07:34] <fu[tu}ro> quien es levo?
[07:34] <levo> what the f*?
[07:34] <levo> you meant: who is levo?
[07:35] <fu[tu}ro> EN?
[07:35] <fu[tu}ro> EN ESPAÑOL PLEASE
[07:35] <fu[tu}ro> !!
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> levo, You will have to look at the removal lists, they are basically to get to the one desktop, however !es
[07:35] <wilee-nilee> !es
[07:35] <fu[tu}ro> QUE ESTAS ABLANDO PRIMAA?
[07:35] <levo> wilee-nilee: es means yes?
[07:35] <fu[tu}ro> EN?
[07:36] <wilee-nilee> levo, No look at the bot message
[07:36] <fu[tu}ro> VEMO CON LOS ZOJOS
[07:36] <the_drow> I kinda broke the ubuntu default python... I removed distribute and installed setuptools 0.7.x instead and now it can't find pkg_resources and generally causes trobule.
[07:37] <wilee-nilee> levo, What desktop do you want in the end?
[07:37] <levo> wilee-nilee: lxde
[07:37] <levo> but i want the config settings unchanged
[07:38] <levo> the site you've just offered has a install ubuntu-desktop at the end
[07:38] <levo> i think it would remove all the destkops first and then install a new one
[07:41] <wilee-nilee> levo, If you want just lubuntu you could do it with these list most likely, but the removal lists are not set to remove 2 out of 3 desktops at once.
[07:44] <poee> Hi, I am running 12.04 in Gnome (no effects) mode and its not updating all the packages. when I try for a partial upgrade it says ubuntu desktop cannot be found, when I tried to install ubuntu desktop package using apt, it says it is already at the latest version
[07:45] <levo> wilee-nilee:  libgtk2.0-cil : Depends: libmono-system-drawing4.0-cil (>= 1.0) but it is not going to be installed
[07:46] <wasanzy> nagios is showing status on nagvis that, it is terribly confused
[07:46] <wasanzy>  what could that be?
[07:47] <wasanzy> I posted this on the nagios channel but looks like there is no one there to help
[07:47] <phosphene> I recently had the same problem, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:47] <phosphene> that will force update the entire distro or something like that
[07:47] <phosphene> worked for me
[07:50] <airtonix> the_drow: next time be a good person and use virtualenv
[07:50] <the_drow> airtonix: but setuptools is global
[07:51] <airtonix> the_drow: not it's not. also why in the world would you use setuptools over distribute
[07:51] <the_drow> airtonix: because it's now deprecated by setuptools 0.7. It has been merged back
[07:52] <airtonix> the_drow: obviously not by system packages on ubuntu that require it.
[07:52] <airtonix> the_drow: hence, virtualenv
[07:54] <george> Hey I'm having trouble booting into recovery mode, I think i messed up my grub settings for it. Would someone please boot into grub on ubuntu by holding esc at restart when it tells you to. then scroll to recovery mode (second one down) and press e, then tell me the output of the line kernel please.
[07:55] <airtonix> the_drow: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/distutils-sig/2013-March/020126.html
[07:56] <the_drow> airtonix: but the merge has been completed
[08:03] <user134> could anyone help me with a problem with dualbooting win7\ubuntu and partition MFT? it's a long question so I'm not sure if this is a correct place for those or should I go to the forums instead
[08:16] <folorn> anyone know how to check what distro your using again from the terminal? :)
[08:17] <wsnipex> lsb_release
[08:17] <Ben64> might want to ask #linux ... but lsb_release -a will tell you if you're running ubuntu
[08:17] <folorn> thanks wsnipex :)
[08:17] <wsnipex> or cat /etc/os-release
[08:17] <folorn> ty
[08:18] <folorn> yep lucid :)
[08:22] <natrixnatrix89> what's wrong with usb-creator-gtk?
[08:22] <natrixnatrix89> it's crashing all the time..
[08:22] <natrixnatrix89> Is it possible to write .iso to usb, using dd?
[08:22] <natrixnatrix89> I tried it, but when booting I couldn't get past boot..
[08:22] <natrixnatrix89> is it because it creates ISO filesystem?
[08:22] <natrixnatrix89> I mean I couldn't get past GRUB
[08:23] <natrixnatrix89> because when I press "Try ubuntu" or "install ubuntu" All I see is black screen and nothing happens
[08:24] <phantum> hi
[08:31] <histo> !nomodeset | natrixnatrix89
[08:32] <natrixnatrix89> histo: also after installing with dd, And opening the device with gparted, I get this error: contains GPT signatures indicating that it has a GPT table. However, it has a fake msdos partition table as it should. Perhaps it was corrupted? Is this a GPT partition table?
[08:32] <natrixnatrix89> could it be related?
[08:34] <george> my recovery mode is broken and i get black screen on startup. Ubuntu live CD fails to "Try Ubuntu without downloading".
[08:34] <george> I've tried all options for password recovery.
[08:35] <george> Help
[08:35] <histo> natrixnatrix89: it creates an iso filesystem on the usb the partition table won't exist.
[08:35] <natrixnatrix89> ok.. so it's ok that there is no partition table?
[08:35] <histo> george: What does the black screen have to do with password recovery?
[08:36] <histo> natrixnatrix89: yes it's a hybrid image it should boot from usb after dd'ng the image to usb
[08:36] <george> I need to boot into recovery mode which gives me a black screen, and the ubuntu Live CD fails.
[08:37] <george> the live cd gets stuck with an I/O error on "Try Ubuntu without downloading"
[08:38] <histo> george: What is wrong with your regular install that you need recovery mode or CD for?
[08:38] <george> password reset
[08:39] <histo> george: you can use any livecd /usb to do it. perhaps your cd went bad causing the IO errors
[08:40] <george> i'll reburn it
[08:40] <histo> george: boot any linux os. Mount your root partition and chroot there then passwd someuser   to reset their password
[08:41] <natrixnatrix89> histo: Could it because there's something wrong with booting UEFI?
[08:41] <histo> natrixnatrix89: are you trying to boot the 64bit version of ubuntu?
[08:41] <natrixnatrix89> yes
[08:41] <ActionParsnip> george: hold SHIFT at boot, select root recovery mode and you can password reset your user
[08:42] <natrixnatrix89> and I have a laptop with UEFI
[08:42] <george> Going to try that. Thank you.
[08:43] <histo> natrixnatrix89: shouldn't be an issue, unless your system is 32bit only
[08:43] <histo> natrixnatrix89: and your are using 12.04 or higher
[08:44] <george> I held down shift with the recovery cd in and got "boot:"
[08:45] <george> take out the CD?
[08:45] <histo> george: I thought you said recovery mode gave you a black screen?
[08:46] <george> it did
[08:46] <george> recovery cd = ubuntu live cd sorry
[08:46] <histo> natrixnatrix89: I would try booting with nomodeset option as described by ubottu as that could be the issue
[08:47] <histo> george: oh boot off the harddrive to recovery mode as stated above (using shift etc..).
[08:47] <napa_polarbear> anybody know how 2 link evlution 2 firefox in kbuntu?
[08:47] <natrixnatrix89> histo: It didn't feel like it's display related.. as soon as blank screen appeared, also usb stopped blinking.. and nothing further happens..
[08:47] <asharas> Hi all
[08:47] <natrixnatrix89> It's like it has crashed or sth..
[08:47] <asharas> need a big help
[08:48] <george> ActionParsnip: shift key didn't work :(
[08:48] <histo> natrixnatrix89: nomodeset is a display related setting
[08:48] <histo> !details | asharas
[08:48] <george> I'm going to reburn a disk.
[08:49] <asharas> I have an unkown IP on my local network, the IP it out of dhcp range, only a few packets sent and the MAC adress leads me to a samsung card, but dunno which
[08:49] <george> thank you for the help
[08:50] <asharas> also, it's my ISP's routeur and it's packet with a tv decoder, could it be this?
[08:50] <asharas> packed
[08:50] <Ben64> asharas: is this an ubuntu issue?
[08:50] <george> I'll be back
[08:52] <natrixnatrix89> histo: nomodeset didn't change anything..
[08:52] <natrixnatrix89> I'm still at the blank screen
[08:52] <histo> !md5sum | natrixnatrix89
[08:52] <natrixnatrix89> I did a md5 summ..yes it's valid
[08:53] <asharas> uuuh... not really Ben64 , sorry
[08:53] <asharas> i'll find out elsewhere
[08:53] <histo> natrixnatrix89: also what was the command you used to create the usb?
[08:53] <asharas> sorry for disturbing guys
[08:53] <Ben64> asharas: you could try #networking if its a networking question
[08:54] <asharas> thanks
[08:54] <asharas> bye!
[08:54] <natrixnatrix89> dd if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M; sync
[08:55] <_alpha_> an apport crash I'm getting is telling me the problem is a duplicate of https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1166432
[08:55] <_alpha_> but that URL just 404s
[08:55] <_alpha_> how do I find the bug report it's referring to?
[08:58] <histo> natrixnatrix89: what type of hardware is this machine?
[08:58] <natrixnatrix89> histo: http://zenbook.asus.com/zenbook/?c=ux31a
[08:59] <histo> natrixnatrix89: what version of ubuntu?
[09:00] <histo> natrixnatrix89: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AsusZenbookPrime
[09:00] <natrixnatrix89> histo 13.04
[09:02] <lakhan> hi
[09:02] <lakhan> Another web server daemon is already running.
[09:02] <lakhan> how to overcome this problem
[09:03] <somsip> lakhan: what are you trying to do?
[09:03] <lakhan> trying to install xampp
[09:03] <histo> natrixnatrix89: check the last link out I sent you.
[09:03] <somsip> lakhan: and what web server is already running?
[09:04] <oo_miguel> everytime I do aptitude upgrade one package encounters errors..
[09:04] <lakhan> how do i find out?
[09:04] <oo_miguel> grub-pc
[09:04] <somsip> !aptitude | oo_miguel
[09:04] <lakhan> @somsip how do i find out
[09:04] <somsip> lakhan: ps aux will show you all running processes
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> is there a tweak to maximize so you can still see close/min/max buttons?
[09:05] <oo_miguel> apt-get upgrade gives me the same error
[09:05] <oo_miguel> dpkg: error processing grub-pc (--configure):
[09:06] <lakhan> somsip: d-bus daemon
[09:08] <somsip> lakhan: that's not a webserver
[09:08] <lakhan> k how do i identify a web server. pls excuse me for i am new to linux environment
[09:09] <lakhan> somsip:k how do i identify a web server. pls excuse me for i am new to linux environment
[09:09] <histo> lakhan: is apache installed and running?  wth is xampp btw?
[09:09] <lakhan> apache mysql php perl
[09:09] <lakhan> package
[09:10] <somsip> lakhan: so 'ps aux | grep apache' and see if anyting is already running
[09:10] <energizer> I've got some weird-looking output from nethogs and I'd appreciate a look. I think it's got some IPs in it, should i post the screenshot?
[09:10] <lakhan> root      9589  0.0  0.0  13580   928 pts/0    S+   14:40   0:00 grep --color=auto apache
[09:10] <lakhan> yep it is
[09:11] <somsip> lakhan: no, that's just the command you just ran. They usually look like ' 0:01 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
[09:11] <lakhan> somsip:yep it is
[09:12] <somsip> lakhan: if you think it's running, try stopping it with 'sudo service apache2 stop'
[09:12] <somsip> lakhan: then try the resintall again. But I don't understand the need for XAMPP if you already have Apache installed...
[09:12] <lakhan> somsip: i donot have apache running
[09:12] <histo> lakhan: how are you installing xampp?
[09:13] <lakhan> somsip: it is some other daemon server
[09:13] <somsip> lakhan: paste the full output showing what you are doing that causes the original error to be shown
[09:13] <somsip> !paste | lakhan
[09:14] <histo> lakhan: netstat -tan | grep ':80'
[09:15] <histo> !paste | energizer
[09:15] <Joe_DM_> Hi Guys, Does anybody know a good way to run a command on boot as root?
[09:15] <histo> Joe_DM_: /etc/rc.local
[09:15] <Joe_DM_> histo: does not run as root
[09:15] <somsip> Joe_DM_: add it to sudo crontab -e as '@reboot' instead of a time
[09:15] <energizer> Screenshot from nethogs http://imgur.com/Jvv1RD5
[09:15] <Joe_DM_> somsip: does not run as root :
[09:15] <Joe_DM_> :(
[09:16] <somsip> Joe_DM_: read again - *sudo* crontab -e
[09:16] <histo> Joe_DM_: yes it does
[09:16] <lakhan> somsip:http://paste.ubuntu.com/5786321/
[09:16] <histo> Joe_DM_: what command are you trying to run?
[09:17] <energizer> I don't expect any network activity, but my multiload indicator shows its going wild, so i checked nethogs, and there's all this stuff. What is that?
[09:17] <Joe_DM_> histo: do I need to do a chmod or somthing to make it run as root. When the command runs it says "Command not found" which is the same error I get when running it as local user
[09:17] <lakhan> histo:http://paste.ubuntu.com/5786323/
[09:17] <histo> lakhan: probably because another instance of lampp or xampp is already running.
[09:17] <cloneG> hello I am trying to use the grep command in shell but I cant find what I am looking for
[09:17] <histo> Joe_DM_: What is the command?
[09:17] <Rocker> Hello, I need to know if changing cpu governor to performance mode, will it increase power consumption and hence electricity bill?
[09:17] <Joe_DM_> scstadmin -config /etc/scst.conf
[09:17] <histo> cloneG: what are you looking for?
[09:18] <lakhan> somsip:oh ty but now how do i check if it is?? :)
[09:18] <somsip> lakhan: try commands like 'sudo service mysql status' with mysql and apache2, but like histo says, they're already running by the look of things.
[09:18] <histo> Rocker: yes if you're currently throttling you cpu
[09:18] <cloneG> the point is I would like to search for the tab <RotationObject> in all xml files in a folder
[09:18] <cloneG> what to type exactly?
[09:18] <Rocker> I'm just using the ondemand mode right now
[09:18] <somsip> Joe_DM_: are you defining the full path to the command? Like not relying on $PATH being set, or using ~/
[09:18] <histo> cloneG: grep '<RotationObject>' /path/to/xml/files/*
[09:18] <cloneG> grep <RotationObject> *.xml seems to be not working
[09:19] <lakhan> somsip: django's default sqlite3 service is probably running
[09:19] <fspot> cloneG: you have to add the quotes like histo does
[09:19] <Joe_DM_> somsip: command is exactly what i just typed. all absolute paths
[09:19] <Rocker> I thought of trying performance mode because my cpu seem to be freezing for a few seconds intermittently when doing heavy taks
[09:19] <cloneG> already in the directory I type:  grep '<RotationObject>' *.xml
[09:19] <Rocker> i read ondemand mode can cause cpu stutters
[09:19] <cloneG> and nothing happnes
[09:19] <histo> cloneG: sorry you have to escape them possibly also with \<RotationObject\>
[09:20] <energizer> If nobody has any ideas, I'm not even sure where to start looking into my weird IP connections. Thoughts? (http://imgur.com/Jvv1RD5)
[09:21] <cloneG> this doesnt work either: $ grep \<RotationObjects\> *.xml
[09:21] <lakhan> histo: django's default sqlite3 service is probably running
[09:21] <histo> cloneG: add quotes
[09:22] <cloneG> command not found thn
[09:22] <cloneG> then*
[09:22] <cloneG>  grep '\<RotationObjects\>' *.xml command not found
[09:22] <cloneG> sudo perhaps?
[09:23] <histo> cloneG: grep '\<RotationObjects\>' *.xml  or possibly grep -F '<RotationObjects>' *.xml
[09:23] <cloneG> the first doesnt work
[09:23] <cloneG> oh my fault
[09:23] <cloneG> wrong tab
[09:23] <cloneG> sorry
[09:23] <yggdrasil> hi folks where do i place the firmware for a wireless card ?
[09:24] <histo> cloneG: both of those should work
[09:24] <cloneG> it works but...still ovewhelming search
[09:24] <histo> cloneG: what do you want to do exactly with the data perhaps there is a better way?
[09:25] <cloneG> I need to find the one in position 1,  4609
[09:25] <histo> cloneG: what do you mean by position 1,  4609?
[09:25] <cloneG> line 1 column 4609
[09:26] <cloneG> they are xml files to define objects physics in a simulator
[09:26] <cloneG> I need to find the one containing a null <RotationOffset> in that position
[09:27] <histo> cloneG: then why are you grepping for RotationObject?
[09:27] <NotAGuest> asl?
[09:27] <cloneG> wait I will show you
[09:28] <cloneG> http://pastebin.com/a1nuTFLN
[09:28] <cloneG> see that post?
[09:29] <cloneG> I am trying to load a tar file....a backup file
[09:29] <cloneG> but it suddenly stops with that message
[09:29] <cloneG> so I am trying to find that rotationoffset expected and fix it
[09:30] <cloneG> even deleting the object could be a fix...I guess
[09:30] <histo> cloneG: let me think for a minute the most efficient way to do this.. While you wait feel free to ask in ##linux as all of this is way off topic
[09:31] <cloneG> oh okay I didnt know that channel thanks
[09:31] <joesavage> I have some static HTML files that I'm serving off my Ubuntu server, however I modify the HTML files around every 5 minutes which is causing reasonably high disk IO, and also means that the disk cache isn't doing its job very well -- I've been advised to put the files onto a RAM disk so I can write to them and read from them far more quickly for serving - how would I go about this?
[09:32] <gordonjcp> joesavage: sounds like a lot of effort
[09:33] <gordonjcp> joesavage: do you need to be modifying the files every few minutes?
[09:33] <joesavage> gordonjcp: Every 5 minutes or so they get updated, yeah
[09:33] <gordonjcp> joesavage: what from?
[09:33] <gordonjcp> I'm wondering if maybe using some sort of cgi script would be a better fit there
[09:34] <joesavage> gordonjcp: From a cron job that modifies a part of the files - I've got the whole system fleshed out and working to produce these files, and it's blazing fast to serve, but Disk IO gets hit a little
[09:34] <histo> cloneG: are you looking for the file name or just to see if that exists?
[09:36] <cloneG> hmmmm I dont really know what would be best...
[09:36] <cloneG> I guess first finding it would be great
[09:36] <grahamsavage> hey guys.. i have the following line in my ~/.profile      export PATH="$HOME/.rbenv/bin:$PATH"       however that path is not appearing
[09:36] <grahamsavage> any idea why?
[09:36] <cloneG> and then knowing the name would help find it using nautilus
[09:36] <joesavage> gordonjcp: If I can move everything onto a RAM disk then doing the 5 minute modifications and also Apache's fetching of the files to serve should be even faster though -- I was under the impression it wasn't too hard to just push it up to the RAM
[09:36] <ikonia> grahamsavage: what path ? and where is it not appearing
[09:36] <histo> cloneG: well using awk maybe the best way
[09:37] <histo> cloneG: see what ##linux says
[09:37] <gordonjcp> joesavage: is /tmp mounted as /tmpfs?
[09:37] <gordonjcp> joesavage: it should be, by default
[09:37] <gordonjcp> s!/tmpfs/tmpfs/g
[09:37] <cloneG> they seem too busy to answer
[09:37] <ikonia> cloneG: no they are not
[09:37] <joesavage> gordonjcp: *blank stare* - if it should be by default then it probably is
[09:37] <gordonjcp> joesavage: tmpfs basically is a RAM disk that can be written out to swap if needed
[09:37] <grahamsavage> ikonia: echo $PATH   gives /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
[09:37] <gordonjcp> joesavage: so, create your files in /tmp and serve them from there
[09:37] <ikonia> cloneG: you've not asked and the channel is quiet - so I don't konw why you are making things up about them being too busy to answer
[09:38] <ikonia> grahamsavage: ok - so first test, source your .profile file, and see if it updates it
[09:38] <histo> cloneG: try with grep -m 1 .......
[09:38] <histo> cloneG: should stop after 1 match
[09:38] <joesavage> gordonjcp: Woah, so when you write files in tmp you're actually writing to RAM?
[09:38] <gordonjcp> joesavage: maybe
[09:38] <gordonjcp> joesavage: if there's space, yeah, if not it goes into swap
[09:38] <histo> cloneG: also you never asked in ##linux
[09:38] <grahamsavage> ikonia: should the .profile be executable?
[09:38] <cloneG> I did!!!!
[09:38] <ikonia> grahamsavage: doesn't matter at this time
[09:39] <ikonia> cloneG: lies make baby jesus cry
[09:39] <gordonjcp> *generally* it'll be RAM and if there's enough RAM to keep the things you're actively poking at around it will be RAM
[09:39] <histo> grahamsavage: doesn't need to be
[09:39] <gordonjcp> joesavage: clever stuff, eh
[09:39] <ikonia> grahamsavage: just source it and lets see if it updates the path
[09:39] <gordonjcp> joesavage: what server are you using?
[09:39] <gordonjcp> *webserver
[09:39] <joesavage> gordonjcp: Woah, I had no idea. Well that's insanely useful. So if I just push my files over to 'tmp' and do all the modification and migration in there, and then somehow link apache to serve from there, and I'm set!
[09:39] <grahamsavage> what does "just source it" ... copy and paste?
[09:40] <histo> cloneG: notice the two #  in ##linux
[09:40] <joesavage> gordonjcp: Apache
[09:40] <gordonjcp> joesavage: it's worth a shot
[09:40] <cloneG> yep
[09:40] <cloneG> two ##
[09:40] <cloneG> asked again
[09:40] <grahamsavage> if i copy and paste the line from .profile it works
[09:40] <ikonia> histo: he's in ##linux and #linux won't let you join, it's just not being asked
[09:40] <gordonjcp> joesavage: okay so create a <Directory> stanza that serves http://server/path/to/stuffthatchanges from /tmp/stuffthatchanges/
[09:40] <ikonia> cloneG: you've not - I suspect you can't talk in that channel
[09:40] <cloneG> ?
[09:40] <cloneG> yeah
[09:40] <histo> !register | cloneG
[09:40] <cloneG> it says failed to
[09:41] <ikonia> cloneG: right, so you didn't ask - because it's failed
[09:41] <histo> cloneG: anyhoot using -m 1  will stop grep at the first match in each file
[09:41] <ikonia> cloneG: you need to be registered to talk in ##linux - see the link ubottu just sent you
[09:41] <joesavage> gordonjcp: Awesome, that's a really simple change with my current setup. So does 'tmp' get wiped every time I restart my machine or is it moved onto the hard disk?
[09:41] <gordonjcp> joesavage: yes
[09:42] <joesavage> gordonjcp: Yes? Which one?
[09:42] <gordonjcp> joesavage: sorry, yes it's wiped
[09:42] <rtuio> #ubuntu-server
[09:42] <gordonjcp> joesavage: it's intended for temporary files, that you don't want hanging around between boots
[09:42] <ikonia> grahamsavage:  . .profile
[09:43] <joesavage> gordonjcp: Ah right. So how would I prevent all of my website just being lost every time my machine restarts?
[09:43] <gordonjcp> joesavage: somewhere in your apache startup or even in the machine startup like /etc/rc.local you could bung a wee script to ensure that the /tmp/stuffthatchanges/ directory is created and has some "placeholder" content
[09:43] <gordonjcp> joesavage: and then only serve the actual conten that changes from /tmp
[09:43] <gordonjcp> *content
[09:44] <cloneG> it doesnt seem to stop...It might not be such position
[09:45] <joesavage> gordonjcp: But if the files are changing every 5 minutes and then my machine restarts, I'd lose all the changes. Specifically there are three files that all the changes can be derived from, I guess I can somehow hook when the machine is about to restart or shut down and copy those files elsewhere on the disk?
[09:45] <grahamsavage> ikonia: crap
[09:45] <grahamsavage> ikonia: it's because i was in as root
[09:46] <gordonjcp> joesavage: right, but it'll be regenerated next time the cron job runs
[09:46] <gordonjcp> joesavage: you'd have the same problem with a RAM disk too
[09:48] <joesavage> gordonjcp: Previous changes matter though -- so if I push everything up to 'tmp', ensuring I back up the changefiles every time the machine is about to shut down, then I guess I should be safe.
[09:48] <Kartagis> dpkg-query -l smb* lists smbfs but when I do sudo apt-get install smbfs I get smbfs has no installation candidate. any ideas what to do?
[09:49] <gordonjcp> joesavage: tbh you'd be better whacking all that into a database and using something to fire that out into a template
[09:49] <Ben64> Kartagis: the package smbfs stopped existing in 12.10
[09:50] <ikonia> grahamsavage: there we go.
[09:50] <joesavage> gordonjcp: I would tend to agree, but I've already written a whole bunch of the system and it seems like this will actually be the optimal solution in terms of speed and performance. So how can I check if tmp is mounted as /tmpfs?
[09:51] <Ben64> joesavage: "mount"
[09:53] <ozette> does ubuntu 12.04 come with gtk+ 2.0 ?
[09:53] <ikonia> !info smbfs
[09:53] <Yaku> ciao
[09:53] <joesavage> Ben64: I wish I knew more about these things -- the lines I get related to tempfs are http://pastebin.com/KhMKr04w, does that mean /tmp works uses RAM or not?
[09:53] <Yaku> !lista
[09:53] <asharas> back again
[09:54] <Ben64> joesavage: see anything with "/tmp" ?
[09:54] <asharas> which dns server should I put on a dns cache server interface?
[09:54] <gordonjcp> joesavage: mount
[09:54] <joesavage> Ben64: I don't think so
[09:54] <Ben64> joesavage: then its not mounted as tmpfs
[09:55] <joesavage> Ben64: Full output: http://pastebin.com/ijs0tFwy
[09:55] <Kartagis> I'm having a dreadful problem. I can't mount any of the remote samba shares; either through /etc/fstab or CLI. I get permission denied. a relevant line in my /etc/fstab is //campus01/mtozses             /mnt/t            cifs        credentials=/root/.mtozses,uid=3339,gid=500    0    0. any ideas?
[09:55] <ikonia> Kartagis: can you show me the manual mount line you are using
[09:56] <Ben64> Kartagis: try it by hand first, then put it in fstab after it works
[09:56] <ikonia> Kartagis: also why are you putting things in /root - that is for the root user that is locked on ubuntu
[09:56] <Kartagis> sudo mount -t cifs //campus01/mtozses /mnt/t/ -o username=mtozses,password=password,uid=3339,gid=500
[09:56] <Kartagis> brb, lunch
[09:56] <ikonia> why ask for help if you then leave the channel ??
[09:57] <Ben64> strange
[09:57] <ikonia> what a total waste of time
[09:57] <joesavage> gordonjcp: Dang, it looks like my /tmp isn't mapped to /tmpfs or whatever after all D: Any guides for doing this?
[09:58] <Ben64> have you checked google? pretty easy with the keywords tmpfs tmp and ubuntu
[09:59] <joesavage> Ben64: I had a quick search but it looked awfully confusing -- I'll take another look now actually
[09:59] <Ben64> it goes in the fstab
[10:00] <joesavage> Ben64: So it does -- that's not too hard. There we go.
[10:00] <ashish> Hi
[10:03] <joesavage> Ben64: gordonjcp: "tmpfs on /tmp type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid)" - Woo!
[10:05] <magic_al> If I upgrade my Ubuntu to the next higher version, will my applications and the files work as before?
[10:06] <Ben64> magic_al: maybe.
[10:06] <magic_al> Ben64, means not for sure?
[10:07] <magic_al> Ben64, ok thanks in that case I wait for an upgrade till my master thesis is finished :)
[10:07] <Ben64> magic_al: can't really tell until you try. you should have backups. checking the newer version to see if the software still exists would be good too
[10:07] <magic_al> exit
[10:10] <asharas> quit
[10:12] <grahamsavage> i did an sudo apt-get update and i got "GPG error: http://apt.ucis.nl current Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3AD0973F8FB8E4CE"
[10:12] <grahamsavage> what do i do?
[10:15] <joesavage> gordonjcp: So which file should I hook the changefile backup to to make sure I don't lose the changefile in the tmp directory (which is hopefully now in the RAM)?
[10:16] <grahamsavage> http://blog.netflowdevelopments.com/2012/04/29/ever-get-this-message-when-running-apt-get-update-the-following-signatures-couldnt-be-verified/  << i trie dthis and i got key not found on the server
[10:16] <fylux_> Hi
[10:16] <fylux_> I want to request the update of program in the Software Center, can I?
[10:18] <ikonia> fylux_: log a bug on launchpad.net
[10:20] <rtuio> hello there
[10:21] <rtuio> how to set vbox guest
[10:21] <rtuio> with proxy configuration ?
[10:24] <aladdin> heyyoo people. anybody here from Melbourne Australia?
[10:24] <aladdin> sorry for being offtopic here
[10:24] <ActionPa1snip> aladdin: try in #ubuntu-offtopc
[10:24] <aladdin> ActionPa1snip: cool. thanks mate
[10:24] <aladdin> :)
[10:27] <aladdin> i had a problem with printing on librecalc. the print result does print left indetation, maybe an inch is off from the left. btw my printer is 'brother'. anyone else had the same?
[10:35] <alicerr> test
[10:35] <bgardner> It worked
[10:36] <Kartagis> back
[10:36] <ActionPa1snip> woop
[10:36] <joesavage> Ben64: If I need to backup a file from 'tmp' just before shutdown to make sure I don't lose it (so I'll put it on the hard disk somewhere), how should I go about that?
[10:38] <subthalamus> Nobody at all seems to know anything about using ws-scan devices with ubuntu :( http://askubuntu.com/questions/310575/how-can-i-use-a-ws-scan-device-with-ubuntu-os-and-variants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Rally
[10:38] <Kartagis> ikonia: are you there?
[10:38] <Kartagis> I tried by hand as well
[10:38] <subthalamus> driving me nutz
[10:40] <VictorCL> hi
[10:40] <joesavage> *
[10:40] <VictorCL> how can I make this command   find ./* -type f -mtime -4    skip folders that are named "cache"  ???
[10:43] <somsip> VictorCL: you need the -name command line. try man find to get more detail
[10:44] <histo> VictorCL: find . -name '*' -type f -mtime -4
[10:44] <histo> VictorCL: you can add -note -name '*cache*'
[10:44] <histo> VictorCL: sorry -not instead of -note typo
[10:45] <VictorCL> ah
[10:45] <VictorCL> will try
[10:45] <jrib> VictorCL: use -prune, see examples in « man find »
[10:45] <VictorCL> histo
[10:46] <VictorCL> find ./* -type f -mtime -4 -not -name "cache"
[10:46] <VictorCL> where should the -not go ?
[10:46] <VictorCL> before -mtime?
[10:46] <FloodBot1> VictorCL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:46] <histo> VictorCL: stop with ./*  just use . -name '*'
[10:47] <histo> VictorCL: the proper command would be find . -name '*' -type f -mtime -4 -not -name '*cache*'
[10:47] <histo> VictorCL: should work. Or use prune
[10:48] <alexandergranase> I need help with my printer. Canon Pixma IP2700. I have done everything in the following guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1736064&page=2 but the printer still says "print complete" and nothing has been printed out when trying to print out documents. What can the problem be? Very glad if someone could help me.
[10:48] <VictorCL> this worked  find . -path '*/cache/*' -prune -o  -type f -mtime -4 :)
[10:48] <VictorCL> thanks
[10:49] <histo> ughh
[10:50] <histo> VictorCL: it shouldn't have
[10:50] <VictorCL> mm it worked but not 100%
[10:50] <VictorCL> still shows some cache folders
[10:51] <jrib> VictorCL: don't match using your -path '*/cache/*'.... just use -name 'cache'
[10:52] <histo> VictorCL: find . -path '*cache*' -prune -o -type f -mtime -4
[10:52] <VictorCL> ok
[10:52] <VictorCL> xD is a mess , histo with that command it finds evrything that is named cache
[10:56] <joel135> Hello, I'm trying to ssh using the hostname of the server. On my laptop (joel-laptop), `ssh joel-laptop` works fine; so does `ssh 192.168.1.64` (ip address of desktop). However, `ssh joel-desktop` (hostname of desktop) does not work. It yields "ssh: Could not resolve hostname joel-desktop: Name or service not known". This problem is not ssh-specific; I get "No address associated with hostname" when running a c program using netdb.h for te
[10:56] <joel135> sting.
[10:58] <joel135> It *should* work, right?
[10:58] <histo> VictorCL: find . -name '*cache*' -prune
[10:59] <histo> VictorCL: add -o -print on the end
[11:00] <histo> VictorCL: http://www.theunixschool.com/2012/07/find-command-15-examples-to-exclude.html  here I have an amazing headache right now and can't think
[11:00] <joesavage_> If I have some files in 'tmp' (RAM) that I'm dealing with and need to backup, how do I go about making sure I hook a script to back the files up before the machine turns off and 'tmp' is cleared?
[11:00] <histo> joesavage_: add joel-desktop  ip.address.of.it  to /etc/hosts  so you can resolve by hostname
[11:01] <histo> joesavage_: cron job to rsync prior to shutdown
[11:01] <VictorCL> thank u histo
[11:01] <joesavage_> histo: What?
[11:02] <joel135> histo, I thought that should happen automatically. thanks!
[11:02] <histo> joesavage_: do you need it to run prior to shutdown? or just right now?
[11:02] <histo> joel135: it would if you setup DNS differently on your network.
[11:02] <joesavage_> histo: Prior to shutdown and restart (or whenever else 'tmp'/RAM is to be cleared)
[11:03] <joel135> histo, do you mean I would need to change some setting on my router?
[11:04] <histo> joel135: no you would have to have your DNS server just use /etc/hosts as it's much easier to manage
[11:04] <histo> joel135: if it's a windows network you can use winbind and edit your /etc/nsswitch.conf  moving wins up the list of priorities
[11:04] <Kroach> how can I send a NotifyOSD confirmation bubble?
[11:05] <joel135> histo, OK thanks for clarifying.
[11:05] <joesavage_> histo: Can a cron even do things prior ro shutdown?
[11:05] <VictorCL> ok this worked     find . -type d -name "cache" -prune -o  -type f -mtime -5  -print
[11:06] <histo> joesavage_: No now that I think about it you can only do @reboot
[11:07] <histo> joesavage_: you'd have to write a shutdown script that rsync's tmp to some other location and then shuts down
[11:07] <Cheery> whose idea that 'akirad' has been?
[11:07] <Joe_DM_> joesavage:http://serverfault.com/questions/180816/scripted-shutdown-of-user-level-daemons-at-shutdown
[11:08] <Cheery> with init script that reinserts it's own record into apt repository, it looks like malware
[11:09] <joesavage_> Joe_DM_: So rc0.d is how you write shutdown scripts?
[11:09] <VictorCL> I have thousands of outgoing connections from to my server to   190.93.241.75 and  190.93.240.75 and 190.93.242.75
[11:09] <VictorCL> is there a way to know who is generatin this connections ?
[11:10] <histo> joesavage_: no that would be reboot
[11:10] <histo> joesavage_: /etc/rc6.d
[11:11] <bgardner> VictorCL: Start by checking the ports in use and looking them up in /etc/services
[11:11] <alexandergranase> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/michael-gruz/canon/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[11:11] <alexandergranase> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/michael-gruz/canon/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[11:11] <alexandergranase> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/michael-gruz/canon/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[11:11] <alexandergranase> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[11:11] <stgg> how to check if samba is running or installed
[11:11] <histo> joesavage_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/48746/how-to-configure-shutdown-tasks  here this explains it
[11:11] <stgg> how to check if samba is running or installed
[11:11] <histo> !paste | alexandergranase
[11:11] <histo> stgg: dpkg -L samba
[11:11] <alexandergranase> How do i delete those files from repository list, i get them everytime i do update
[11:11] <joesavage_> histo: Thanks
[11:11] <VictorCL> bgardner,  is port 443 and 80 :/
[11:11] <histo> stgg: sorry l not L  I bumped the shfit
[11:11] <VictorCL> I have some 10 websites install on t his server
[11:12] <histo> !ppapurge | alexandergranase
[11:12] <bgardner> VictorCL: Those are web and SSL, is your server a web server?
[11:12] <VictorCL> bgardner,  yes
[11:12] <bgardner> VictorCL: Then those are web clients, and those are normal.
[11:12] <VictorCL> no
[11:12] <VictorCL>  there are thousands of outgoing connection to those ips . which I found are some cloudflare service that I dont use
[11:12] <VictorCL> and is saturating my server
[11:13] <VictorCL> my hosting gave me a notice about this
[11:13] <stgg> histo , it produce error
[11:13] <histo> stgg: what did?
[11:13] <stgg> the command doesn't work
[11:14] <stgg> the check if samba is installed or running
[11:14] <bgardner> VictorCL: Okay, then I would start by tracing to see what process is connecting on your side
[11:14] <histo> stgg: sudo service samba status
[11:14] <histo> stgg: also dpkg -l samba*
[11:16] <zero2XIII> VictorCL: netstat -p
[11:17] <goust> anyone usin arduino on ubuntu?
[11:17] <VictorCL> tcp      386      0 housingx-xxx.ilim:49983 190.93.241.75:www       CLOSE_WAIT  -
[11:17] <VictorCL> I get that
[11:17] <VictorCL> many of them
[11:17] <VictorCL> zero2XIII
[11:17] <FloodBot1> VictorCL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:18] <zero2XIII> VictorCL: did you append the -p option, I have to go now, but "man netstat" to see some options.
[11:18] <grahamsavage> hmm i can't run apt-get update
[11:18] <bgardner> VictorCL: Try: 'netstat -tulpn | grep http'
[11:19] <bgardner> VictorCL: You should paste.ubuntu.com the results.
[11:19] <grahamsavage> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/59bf276b082218198c7b << can anyone solve this?
[11:19] <stgg> why microsft-ds is listening and the foreign port is *
[11:20] <VictorCL> (No info could be read for "-p": geteuid()=1002 but you should be root.)
[11:20] <Joe_DM_> joesavage_: write the script and call it in rc0.d
[11:21] <VictorCL> if I do it with sudo I get nothing in return
[11:21] <bgardner> VictorCL: Sorry, 'sudo netstat -tulpn | grep http'
[11:21] <VictorCL> bgardner,  I get nothing
[11:21] <bgardner> VictorCL: Okay, then just do 'sudo netstat -tulpn' and give us that
[11:23] <VictorCL> bgardner,   http://pastebin.com/dVMEGzTy
[11:24] <bgardner> VictorCL: My bad: 'sudo netstat -tupn'
[11:25] <VictorCL> I get hunders of these  tcp      386      0 80.94.x.xxx:35012       190.93.243.75:80        CLOSE_WAIT  32223/apache2
[11:25] <Kartagis> I'm having a dreadful problem. I can't mount any of the remote samba shares; either through /etc/fstab or CLI. I get permission denied. a relevant line in my /etc/fstab is //campus01/mtozses             /mnt/t            cifs        credentials=/root/.mtozses,uid=3339,gid=500    0    0. any ideas?
[11:25] <VictorCL> to the same ip
[11:25] <histo> VictorCL: are you hosting a site?
[11:25] <VictorCL> histo yes many
[11:25] <VictorCL> is a web server
[11:25] <legion59> g'morning all
[11:26] <histo> Kartagis: something wrong with your credentials
[11:27] <Kartagis> histo: I've just tried my credentials with Connect to server in nautilus, they work
[11:27] <histo> Kartagis: check your file then
[11:28] <histo> Kartagis: the /root/.mtozses  file
[11:28] <Kartagis> histo: did that, correct values
[11:28] <histo> Kartagis: it should just contain username=blah next line password=blah
[11:29] <Kartagis> histo: it does
[11:30] <histo> Kartagis: try in #samba
[11:31] <bgardner> VictorCL: Looks like your web server is making the connections out, have you checked the apache logs yet for anything interesting?
[11:31] <VictorCL> yes I did
[11:31] <VictorCL> nothing werid
[11:31] <VictorCL> will check again
[11:32] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:35] <bgardner> VictorCL: You said you are hosting a site - do you provide hosting to someone else, or is all of the code and setup on your web server your own?
[11:35] <armin> is there any way to re-enable ctrl-alt-backspace to kill the X server? i already tried via xorg.conf.d and via setxkbmap but to no avail.
[11:36] <iPenguin> Hi
[11:37] <histo> armin: there used to be a dontzap bot trigger but I can't find it.
[11:37] <histo> !dontzap
[11:37] <Archeaon> hi
[11:37] <Archeaon> long time windows user here looking to convert to ubuntu
[11:38] <histo> Archeaon: what's holding you back?
[11:38] <Archeaon> wondering if i should start with 12.04 or 13.04
[11:38] <Archeaon> 12.04 has more support while 13.04 has higher end capabilities?
[11:38] <iPenguin> I have waited for 2 hours for the ubuntu windows installer to install ubuntu but for some reason it will not install after two hours. What problem could i possibly be facing?
[11:39] <histo> armin: http://www.webupd8.org/2009/04/ctrl-alt-backspace-disabled-in-most.html
[11:40] <Archeaon> histo: your thoats?
[11:40] <Archeaon> thoughts* derp
[11:40] <histo> Archeaon: What will the system be used for?
[11:40] <Archeaon> just recreationally
[11:41] <histo> Archeaon: It's up to you. 12.04 is an LTS or long term support release. 13.04 is the most current release and has more up-to-date programs however that doesn't necessarily mean 'better'
[11:41] <histo> !releases | Archeaon
[11:41] <histo> Archeaon: You can create installation media on DVD or usb and boot both and try them it's all free
[11:41] <Archeaon> which in your opinion is better suited towards a first timer?
[11:41] <Archeaon> i know
[11:41] <histo> Archeaon: I have 12.04 running on one of my laptops.
[11:42] <Archeaon> ok
[11:42] <Archeaon> thanks
[11:42] <th0r> iPenguin, you need to turn on the computer
[11:42] <iPenguin> Its a netbook th0r
[11:42] <iPenguin> It is already on th0r
[11:45] <histo> iPenguin: what are you trying to do use wubi?
[11:45] <iPenguin> Yes.
[11:45] <histo> !wubi
[11:46] <nbubuntu> It had been discuss numerous times last year.Still , does Flash support hardware acceleration ? and hack or work around ?
[11:46] <bgardner> VictorCL: Still with us?
[11:46] <k1l_> wubi :(
[11:47] <VictorCL> bgardner,  yes
[11:47] <VictorCL> looking at all the logs and searching for modified files all over the server
[11:47] <VictorCL> I still dont have a clue where all those calls are beign generated
[11:47] <k1l_> iPenguin: if you want to test ubuntu use a usb-stick or a cd. if you want to install ubuntu do a proper install
[11:48] <bgardner> VictorCL: And you are or are not hosting sites for other users?
[11:48] <iPenguin> Well at this moment k1l_ were just assembling the cd rw reader. then im installing it from that.
[11:48] <VictorCL> bgardner,  no is out server and websites we have develop and have control of
[11:48] <histo> nbubuntu: yes it has hardware acceleration in newer versions. Although i'd avoid using flash
[11:49] <histo> iPenguin: any reason you don't go with a dualboot install?
[11:49] <nbubuntu> histo : it doesn't seem to accelerate at all .The latest version is 11.2
[11:49] <histo> nbubuntu: ask adobe
[11:49] <k1l_> iPenguin: you can use a usb-live-session to make a real install, too. just dont use the wubi installer (which isntall ubuntu into the windows partition instead of installing it on own partitions)
[11:50] <iPenguin> histo: Main reason is that i fully want the ubuntu and not the dualboot install. the wubi does not work like that on my netbook sadly.
[11:50] <histo> iPenguin: did you see the info from ubottu in regards to wubi?
[11:50] <iPenguin> histo: Who is ubottu?
[11:51] <histo> !wubi | iPenguin
[11:52] <joesavage> oe_DM_: I modified rc.local with my startup script and now my machine won't start properly and has permission errors everywhere. Oh jesus christ.
[11:54] <usr13> joesavage: So what did you put in rc.local ?
[11:54] <histo> joesavage: your script has to have an exit status of 0 in rc.local
[11:54] <ThePendulum> I was wondering if there are fingerprint interfaces other than fingerprint-gui for Ubuntu
[11:55] <ThePendulum> Imo, fingerprint-gui looks absolutely terrible in the furtherwise polished Ubuntu interface
[11:55] <histo> ThePendulum: apt-get search fingerprint
[11:55] <histo> ThePendulum: sorry apt-cache search fingerprint
[11:55] <ThePendulum> (Or, otherwise, a way to disable the fingerprint-gui pop-ups and just enable the possibility without notification)
[11:55] <ThePendulum> histo: Heh, yeah, let's see
[11:55] <joesavage> I kept the "exit 0" -- there were just a few "mv" lines and stuff like that. When I try and start my machine I'm now greeted with: http://pastebin.com/KVg59aXF
[11:55] <usr13> joesavage: Oh yea, that may be it.  As histo points out, your entry must be above the last line that says "exit 0"
[11:56] <Hershey> Hi, I've commented out "#Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server" and restarted ssh with service ssh restart and /etc/init.d/ssh restart but I can still connect to my server via sftp and get into any directory. How can I disable SFTP access?
[11:57] <histo> joesavage: read the text at the top of rc.local
[11:57] <joesavage> histo: I would, but I can't access my machine any more -- it doesn't go past the text I pasted D:
[11:57] <nbubuntu> histo : still no solution ?
[11:58] <nbubuntu> any hackaround making flash for hardware acceleration
[11:58] <usr13> histo: Turn off the ftp server?
[11:58] <joesavage> histo: How can I get back in there to revert my changes? I have sites served off that server at the moment and it just won't start properly
[11:59] <usr13> joesavage: Where is the text?
[12:00] <joesavage> usr13: http://pastebin.com/KVg59aXF
[12:01] <Guest78663> can anyone tell me how to get new respository for blackubuntu
[12:02] <usr13> joesavage: "If you don't use raid, use raid=noautodetect" ?
[12:04] <joesavage> usr13: The base of the server was previously set up and I just leave it as it is -- it was working perfectly before I modified the rc.local file and mounted fstmp or whatever and then restarted
[12:04] <k1l_> Guest78663: ask the blackubuntu support
[12:05] <usr13> joesavage: If it is the rc.local file, just edit it and take out what you put there, or just chmod -x  until you figure out what needs to be done.
[12:06] <joesavage> usr13: How am I supposed to modify the file if the system doesn't start?
[12:06] <usr13> joesavage: You have direct access to the machine. Right?
[12:06] <usr13> joesavage: Use a boot disk.
[12:06] <joesavage> usr13: Nope, it's a Linode
[12:07] <usr13> joesavage: So you don't have any way to edit the files?
[12:07] <joesavage> usr13: I'm stuck looking at the failure to boot lines and I can't do anything about it
[12:09] <usr13> joesavage: I don't know, I'm late in the conversation.  I don't know what your original problem was and what you've done.  If I knew more about it, maybe I could think of a solution, but..... I dono...
[12:09] <nbubuntu> any hackaround making flash for hardware acceleration
[12:09] <vulpes> how to i make xorg.conf in xubuntu 12.10? :)
[12:10] <usr13> vulpes: Several ways.  What display adapter are you using?
[12:10] <abud11> hello.. i need help with ubuntu nexus 7
[12:10] <vulpes> usr13, LCD. laptop.
[12:11] <usr13> vulpes: lspci |grep VGA   #Tell us what it says.
[12:12] <vulpes>  Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)   :)
[12:12] <joesavage> usr13: I made some changes to my rc.local file, and now the machine won't start. That's basically it.
[12:12] <usr13> joesavage: Then you'll need to either dissable or fix rc.local
[12:13] <vulpes> usr13, what now?
[12:13] <usr13> vulpes: lsb_release -r
[12:14] <usr13> (Show us.)
[12:14] <vulpes> 12.10
[12:14] <vulpes> usr13, i need to enable compiz in 12.10...
[12:15] <vulpes> usr13, i read somewhere i need xorg.conf first but i dunno how to make it..
[12:15] <theadmin> vulpes: Err. Unity is centered around Compiz, currently.
[12:15] <theadmin> vulpes: So Compiz is enabled by default
[12:15] <nbubuntu> any hackaround making flash for hardware acceleration
[12:16] <vulpes> theadmin, no im using Xubuntu
[12:16] <theadmin> vulpes: Oh, I see. Well, you can just install compiz and configure Xubuntu to somehow use it as the window manager. Not sure how you'd do that though.
[12:16] <vulpes> Xubuntu 12.10 theadmin
[12:17] <vulpes> sure i'll give that a shot.. but how do i make a Xorg.conf file in Xubuntu? I know how to do it in Ubuntu with gedit but for some reason i cant do the same with Xubuntu.. :(
[12:18] <JBzh> good afternoon
[12:18] <skinnyblondegirl> hi
[12:18] <gordonjcp> vulpes: "for some reason" - there must be some reason
[12:18] <gordonjcp> vulpes: what happened when you tried?
[12:18] <usr13> vulpes: What exactly do you need to do?  (What is it that you are trying to accomplish?)
[12:19] <vulpes> yeah i've had a long day.. mind isnt as good as this morning.. been reading the whole day gordonjcp
[12:19] <usr13> vulpes: Oh, never mind.  you need to enable compiz
[12:19] <usr13> vulpes: lsmod | pastebinit   #Show us resulting URL
[12:19] <vulpes> usr13, i need to make a Xorg.conf file in Xubuntu... thats it
[12:20] <vulpes> so how do i do that usr13
[12:20] <usr13> vulpes: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-set-up-compiz-in-xubuntu-1210-or.html
[12:21] <JBzh> I could not find how to launch from terminal and/or unity launcher an application on a specific screen. I have two screens, I want to launch my browser in screen 2, a gnome-terminal in screen 1, automatically when I log in.  Any help ?
[12:22] <JBzh> The application launch is ok, but everything is openned in screen 1
[12:22] <vulpes> right.. thanks usr13.
[12:22] <theadmin> vulpes: You dont need an xorg.conf to run compiz %)
[12:22] <usr13> vulpes: Have you looked in Settings Manager > Session and Startup > Applications Autostart tab  for  Compiz  ?
[12:22] <theadmin> vulpes: Settings are autodetected most of the time
[12:23] <theadmin> vulpes: Infact, xorg.conf is only needed for some crazy configurations, like multimonitor stuff (even that is mostly autohandled, though)
[12:23] <usr13> vulpes: Anyway, I'm pretty sure you'll find the info you need at http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-set-up-compiz-in-xubuntu-1210-or.html
[12:23] <nbubuntu> any hackaround making flash for hardware acceleration
[12:25] <usr13> nbubuntu: flash for hardware acceleration?  Can you elaborate on that just a bit?  (Not sure what you mean....)
[12:25] <vulpes> guys i'm following this person's post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1871258. we have exactly the same problem but i dont know how to make the xorg.conf file as stated in the post. :(
[12:26] <vulpes> i am also switching from ubuntu karmic to xubuntu
[12:26] <vulpes> i also have the same thinkpad model
[12:26] <nbubuntu> usr13 : everytime , I browse youtube video , it eats up my processor speed which jumping as high as 60%.And at stat display on youtube video , framerate drops until 300 times in 5 min video
[12:26] <jony_easyrider> if I launch sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 stop, the operations which are in executing state at that moment, will finish first or not?
[12:26] <auronandace> vulpes: karmic has been end of life for quite a while
[12:27] <nbubuntu> usr13 : I just wanted it to minimize the frame rate drop + less processor usage
[12:27] <vulpes> i know auronandace.. thats why im switching
[12:29] <usr13> nbubuntu: What flashplayer did you install?
[12:30] <nbubuntu> usr13 : from adobe 11.2.202.291 and google chrome build in 11.2.202.291
[12:31] <skinnyblondegirl> hi#
[12:32] <skinnyblondegirl> can someone help please ubuntu 12.04 workspace switcher current combination 2 x2 works ok.  I move to a 4 x1 combination and the main screen is ok but when i click screen 2 just get a blank screen and all menus disappear, i dont think i have any effects in place it is 12.04 LTS
[12:32] <skinnyblondegirl> also second problem is that the trackpad is does not respond to any sensitivity changes which is making it really hard to surf thank you
[12:32] <usr13> vulpes: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf   #To edit xorg.conf file.
[12:33] <skinnyblondegirl> the trackpad appears to be quite sticky to be honest
[12:33] <oiiiiimm> ubuntu live dvd is allowing me to copy files from previous ubuntu partition to ntfs
[12:34] <mhr> I am getting "update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/barnyard2 missing LSB information" when doing "update-rc.d barnyard2 defaults" in ubuntu 12.04 server
[12:34] <oiiiiimm> it gives me permission error message!
[12:34] <oiiiiimm> can anyone help
[12:34] <angeloalmighty> how do i stop the autorun change of configuration when i plugin my external monitor?
[12:34] <usr13> auronandace: I thought he said he was on 12.10  ???
[12:35] <joesavage> usr13: I've managed to boot into rescue mode, how do I know which disk is the one I want to mount, and how once I've mounted how can I modify the actual file? (Sorry, I don't deal with this stuff very often)
[12:36] <usr13> joesavage: Should already be mounted. sudo vi /etc/rc.local
[12:36] <oiiiiimm> X-(
[12:36] <usr13> joesavage: or  sudo chmod -x /etc/rc.local
[12:36] <mhr> !LSB | mhr
[12:36] <joesavage> usr13: "By default, your disk images are not mounted when your Linode boots into rescue mode"
[12:36] <usr13> joesavage: ... to just disable it.  But if you can, fix it.
[12:37] <usr13> joesavage: sudo fdisk -l   #Will show you the partitions.
[12:37] <usr13> joesavage: You should be able to tell from that which one is the root filesystem.
[12:37] <usr13> joesavage: Pastebinit  if your not sure and we'll look
[12:38] <HowNowBrownCow> how do i stop the autorun change of configuration when  i plugin my external monitor?
[12:39] <usr13> joesavage: mount    #To see what is mounted now.
[12:39] <corehook> does anyone used splunk unix & linux app for sending data to splunk server ?
[12:39] <joesavage_> usr13: http://pastebin.com/faC23JSp
[12:40] <joesavage_> usr13: So xvdb?
[12:41] <nbubuntu> usr13 : ??? no one actually watching youtube ??? really weird , you guys doesn't watch youtube at all ?
[12:42] <joesavage_> usr13: It was xvdb, yay! Hopefully I can fix the damn server now!
[12:42] <usr13> nbubuntu: I do.
[12:42] <usr13> joesavage_: I don't know.
[12:42] <usr13> joesavage_: Yea, good.
[12:43] <nbubuntu> usr13 : what's your cpu usage while playing youtube video even on 240p ?
[12:43] <usr13> nbubuntu: dono, haven't checked.
[12:43] <nbubuntu> usr13 : ok ...hope there's a fix for it
[12:47] <usr13> nbubuntu: 69%
[12:47] <usr13> at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qN72meqXYo
[12:47] <nbubuntu> usr13 : right click on your youtube video and view the stat for nerd
[12:47] <usr13> (don what size it is.
[12:48] <nbubuntu> usr13 : As for me , the framerate dropping non stop .For a 5 min video over 300fps drop
[12:49] <skinnyblondegirl> can someone help please ubuntu 12.04 workspace switcher current combination 2 x2 works ok.  I move to a 4 x1 combination and the main screen is ok but when i click screen 2 just get a blank screen and all menus disappear, i dont think i have any effects in place it is 12.04 LTS
[12:49] <usr13> 640x360
[12:49] <skinnyblondegirl> also second problem is that the trackpad is does not respond to any sensitivity changes which is making it really hard to surf thank you
[12:49] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: what graphics card do you have?
[12:49] <mhr> I am getting "update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/barnyard2 missing LSB information" when doing "update-rc.d barnyard2 defaults" in ubuntu 12.04 server. what is wrong with it?
[12:50] <usr13> 30-31 video fps, 150 dropped
[12:50] <PinkSwing> Hi. I'm trying to get a scanner working. It's a Mustek 1200 UB Plus and I am running Ubuntu 12.04. Initially xsane gave the message "no devices available" on startup. I am following instructions at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and I have copied the file sbfw.usb to /usr/share/sane/gt68xx and renamed it to PS1fw.usb.            ls -al produces      -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7792 Jun 21 13:24 PS1fw.usb             The out
[12:50] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Ivy Bridge Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[12:50] <usr13> 60% cpu usage
[12:51] <usr13> 60-65
[12:51] <peyam> Hi
[12:51] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: Does the taskbars also dissapear? (the top and maybe bottom, bars)
[12:52] <peyam> Hi
[12:52] <usr13> nbubuntu: I suppose it all depends on your hardware and the player you use ... etc.
[12:52] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: yes and the only way to get back is to switch the thing off
[12:52] <peyam> What is best Screen capture tool for linux? I want to film my desktop and make some toturials
[12:52] <usr13> peyam: recordmydesktop
[12:52] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: switching what off?
[12:52] <nbubuntu> usr13 : did you suffer any framerate drop ?
[12:53] <PinkSwing> peyam: https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&ie=UTF-8#newwindow=1&sclient=psy-ab&q=screen%20capture%20ubuntu&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=d69c67ffffacf41e&ion=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.48293060,d.d2k&biw=1280&bih=867
[12:53] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: the laptop off, as i couldnt get back to the menu screen
[12:53] <Magicarp> Update manager updated some of my packages yesterday and now when I boot the window manager loads but unity does not
[12:53] <usr13> nbubuntu: After 7 minutes about 200
[12:53] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: oka. Do you have compiz settings manager installed?
[12:53] <peyam> PinkSwing: I want the best one people has experienced. I dont have time to do research now
[12:53] <usr13> nbubuntu: Looks fine tho
[12:54] <nbubuntu> usr13 : mine over 300 drops even with 240p
[12:54] <nbubuntu> usr13 : what's your pc spec
[12:55] <usr13> Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.60GHz dual core
[12:55] <usr13> GeForce FX 5500
[12:55] <usr13> Ok gotta go for now.
[12:56] <joesavage_> usr13: Getting things like "bash: /bin/ls: Permission denied" and "bash: /bin/grep: Permission denied" even though I have the correct permissions to all the files. Any idea?
[12:57] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: ??
[12:58] <ubuntu> hello
[12:58] <accc> hi
[12:59] <nbubuntu> usr13 : mine is just althon
[12:59] <nbubuntu> Any user here with i5 ivy bridge or haswell still having framerate drop ? cpu usage ?
[13:01] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: not sure if this is installed i went back to the old menu scheme as the new one is difficult to navigate
[13:02] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: i couldnt really find the compiz settings as i recall they used to be there
[13:02] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: open a terminal and do: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[13:03] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: installed
[13:03] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: will that have resolved the issue
[13:04] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: nope not yet hold on
[13:04] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: open it up: (in terminal compizconfig)
[13:05] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: see if your "viewport switcher" is activated
[13:05] <ws2k3> Hello how can i verify my sshd confiug on buntu
[13:05] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: opened and viewport switcher is ticked
[13:06] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: it was always ticked, i did not change it
[13:06] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: okay gimme a sec
[13:06] <joesavage_> Getting "init: Failed to spawn hwclock main process: unable to execute: Permission denied" on startup and things like "bash: /bin/ls: Permission denied" and "bash: /bin/grep: Permission denied"  when I'm trying to do things from rescue (chroot'ing my disk) -- any help?
[13:07] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl:  my system is heavily customized so I need to check all the defaults
[13:08] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: thanks will wait no problems
[13:09] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: what happens when you press ctrl+alt and an arrow key? If your system gets stuck, try alt+f2 to open a run terminal.. This should take you back to port 1..
[13:10] <grahamsavage> how can i restrict a TCP port to only accept traffic from particular ranges
[13:11] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: ok thanks for that, but any ideas on getting the menus up for thi
[13:11] <grahamsavage> i.e. if you don't come from the correct ip ranges, you can't tell the port is open
[13:11] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: so it switches correctly?
[13:12] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: ok that is fine.. let me check now if I change it to a 4 x 1 configuration where it was getting stuck
[13:12] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: the 2x2 appears to be ok
[13:12] <zero2XIII> skinnyblondegirl: oka ill wait :)
[13:13] <adie> how do I let programs show up in the tray bar? seems ubuntu has intentionally broke that in the last 2 releases.
[13:14] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2xii:  this still not working on a 4 x 1 configuration
[13:15] <ws2k3> how can i restart the sshd server on ubuntu?
[13:15] <CalimeroTeknik> probably /etc/init.d/sshd restart
[13:16] <CalimeroTeknik> is there a command of a bot in this chan, to know which package to install to get some file I don't have?
[13:16] <skinnyblondegirl> zero2XIII: working for a 2 x 2 but not for a 4x1
[13:16] <CalimeroTeknik> !help
[13:16] <CalimeroTeknik> !list
[13:16] <CalimeroTeknik> !pkgfile
[13:25] <grahamsavage> on a server what ports do you need open incoming / outgoing except for the services you are running?
[13:25] <reisio> none
[13:32] <ws2k3> Hello i changed my sshd portand did a /etc/init.d/ssh reload and indeed sshd isnt listin on port 22 anymore. netstat -a shows me its listen on the new port but when i connect to my new port i get connectiong closed by IP (no i dont have a firewall)
[13:33] <reisio> ws2k3: use the old port
[13:34] <zero2XIII> Skinnyblonegirl, you still here? My connection reset... :/
[13:34] <ws2k3> tryed told me connection refused
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3: if you nmap the host, is it listening on the new port?
[13:34] <ws2k3> well with nma it shows that the new port is open yes
[13:34] <ws2k3> well with nmap it shows that the new port is open yes
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3: if you are connecting from outside your LAN, did you configure the port forwarding on the router first?
[13:35] <ws2k3> its in LAN
[13:35] <ws2k3> so i dont have to port forward
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3: cool, easier
[13:35] <ws2k3> yeah well its not LAN but VPN to DC
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3: try renaming ~/.ssh
[13:35] <ws2k3> still LAN :)
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3: on the client
[13:35] <ws2k3> how you mean exacly?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3: mv ~/.ssh ~/.ssh_old
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3: then run:   ssh user@server -P port
[13:37] <ws2k3> when i run that it says no such file or directory
[13:37] <MickS> ws2k3: if you telnet to the new port, does it open the connection, and if so, does it give you a header? In case it does not open a connection, it might be firewall issue somewhere, in case it opens, but no header, it might be tcp wrappers (hosts.allow/deny) and in case you do get a header, try ssh with verbose options to get some extra debugging output.
[13:38] <ws2k3> hmm i'm on a mac does mac have telnet(A)
[13:39] <MickS> should have afaik
[13:39] <ws2k3> yes ssh is running there
[13:39] <streulma> ws2k3: it is not ssh reload, it is ssh restart
[13:39] <gulzar_> How to open pendrive showing RAW filesystem? It contains video recordings from set-top-box. It works with TV but on PC showing RAW filesystem.
[13:40] <ws2k3> tryed both
[13:40] <MickS> ws2k3: do you see a header though?
[13:40] <ws2k3> it shows me connected to IP SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.8p1 Debian-7ubuntu1
[13:40] <streulma> gulzar_: do fdisk -l
[13:40] <freon> I googled Ubuntu images for VmWare player but couldn't find any. i have 64bit proc and OS.
[13:40] <MickS> ok, so you should be able to connect to the ssh, so you need to have debugging output to see what's not working
[13:41] <gulzar_> streulma: Tried making image of it with gnome-disk-utility. Got a .img file,, but cannot mount it
[13:41] <zero2XIII> freon: you can use any ISO file to install a VMware ubuntu
[13:41] <ws2k3> i still have another ssh session that i used to do this
[13:41] <ws2k3> that connection is still open
[13:41] <MickS> ws2k3: ssh -vv -p portnumber user@host
[13:42] <zero2XIII> gulzar_: furius iso mount, in loop mode
[13:42] <ws2k3> micks all shows fine only last rule is connection closed
[13:43] <ws2k3> debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version OpenSSH_5.8p1 Debian-7ubuntu1
[13:43] <ws2k3> debug1: match: OpenSSH_5.8p1 Debian-7ubuntu1 pat OpenSSH*
[13:43] <ws2k3> debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
[13:43] <ws2k3> debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_5.9
[13:43] <ws2k3> debug2: fd 3 setting O_NONBLOCK
[13:43] <ws2k3> debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
[13:43] <ws2k3> ah sry for paste in chanel
[13:44] <MickS> can you make a paste with full output (you can change the ip address if needed)
[13:44] <ws2k3> ok np
[13:44] <zero2XIII> ws2k3: but please in pastebin
[13:45] <ws2k3> http://pastebin.com/CJLwUR0J
[13:45] <ws2k3> ofcrouse :)
[13:47] <MickS> interesting... it does not show it received the key exchange but closes the connection at that point ... I think you should have a look in the logs on the sshd machine
[13:48] <MickS> did you change any other setting besides the port number btw?
[13:48] <ws2k3> nope
[13:48] <ws2k3> i did not
[13:48] <ws2k3> if you want i can change it back to 22 reload the config to verify that
[13:48] <ws2k3> i wanne state i stil have one open connect ssh session to the machine but i assume that does not matter?
[13:49] <theo> I am trying to set up a cisco vpn on Ubuntu, and the problem is, in the Network panel, if I click on it to be on, I get no error, but if I go to 'Wired' from the left sidebar then back on the VPN name, it's off
[13:49] <bdmeyersc> setting up vnc across ssh fro a windows machine to an ubuntu machine Connection is no problem. When the screen draws, it is a grey background without any icons. Does anyone know of any docs on where fixing this is described? (vino-server)
[13:50] <MickS> ws2k3: you could also try to regenerate the keys... that might also help in some cases:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server
[13:51] <ws2k3> i dont dare to do that :P i think its for a reason they have disabled the keys
[13:51] <MickS> how many sshd processes are running on the machine?
[13:53] <freon> isnt there an official VMWARE image available?
[13:53] <freon> i want the löastets ubuntu on vmware
[13:53] <jrib> !vmware | freon
[13:53] <jrib> freon: check there while you wait though I don't think it has what you ask
[13:54] <ws2k3> there are 3 running
[13:54] <MickS> ws2k3: hmm, another possible issue. Can you do a `ls -la /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key` for me?
[13:54] <freon> if you are not using threads and semaphores for your embedded programs, why are you using an OS at all?
[13:54] <freon> wrong channel
[13:54] <theo> I am trying to set up a cisco vpn on Ubuntu, and the problem is, in the Network panel, if I click on it to be on, I get no error, but if I go to 'Wired' from the left sidebar then back on the VPN name, it's off
[13:55] <ws2k3> freon there is no vmware in the reposity because its not open source
[13:55] <ws2k3> you can download vmware workstation from other sources and just install it thats no problem i have done it in the past
[13:55] <ws2k3> MickS it says me no such file or directory
[13:56] <MickS> oh, sorry... /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
[13:56] <ws2k3> if i kill all sshd deamons will my ssh session stay open then ?
[13:57] <freon> I dont get this, are these for MAC computers: http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/ubuntu-iso/DVDs/ubuntu/12.04/release/ ????
[13:57] <MickS> ws2k3: no, it'll close your connection
[13:57] <ws2k3> ah okay
[13:57] <ws2k3> micks in the mailwhile i'm trying to connect via kvm
[13:57] <bdmeyersc> sudo ocate xrdp
[13:58] <xjohnthomasx> Can someone help me - I am encountering a stubborn login loop with the graphical login of my main account on ubuntu 12?
[13:58] <xjohnthomasx> I tried making a new user. Same thing happens. However, I can login with the guest account graphically as well as cli. And I can login with the main account through cli.
[13:59] <freon> so i just download an iso and mount it in vmware?
[13:59] <compdoc> freon, it says that some are for macs
[13:59] <MickS> ws2k3: your connection will stay open if you kill the /usr/sbin/sshd -D process(es)... the sshd: username are the running sessions. Best idea is to do a:  sudo service ssh restart
[13:59] <MickS> ws2k3: that should keep your connection running
[14:00] <xjohnthomasx> Anyone?
[14:00] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, What else should I try - since I tried making a new user and the same thing happens?
[14:01] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: you should post the ~/.xsession-errors again (just post the fresh one as it will likely be less cluttered) and see if a simpler wm like fluxbox instead of xfce will work.  Also, describe what you did before this happened (I remember something about resizing home)
[14:02] <jrib> freon: sure, you can just install ubuntu in vmware.  And you can use the mac images.  The (mac) images will work on non-mac computers, they just have some "extra" stuff afaik
[14:02] <jrib> freon: the mac images are all 64bit though
[14:03] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, saying it's trying to post an empty document with xsession-errors
[14:03] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: is it actually empty?
[14:04] <MickS> xjohnthomasx: could be some profile/bashrc issue perhaps
[14:04] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, seems it
[14:04] <jrib> MickS: note xjohnthomasx's issue happens with a freshly created user
[14:04] <xjohnthomasx> I'm in the cli of the main account. I did "more ~/.xses..." nothing..
[14:04] <MickS> jrib: yeah, global profile of bashrc file
[14:05] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: but last time you pasted a really long one for the main account
[14:05] <xjohnthomasx> I believe so
[14:05] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: is the fresh user's also blank?  Check ~freshuser/.xsession-errors
[14:06] <xjohnthomasx> In /home/freshuser/ ?
[14:06] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: you're just getting kicked back to the log-in screen right?
[14:07] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: sure, "~freshuser" is shell short-hand for freshuser's home which is usually /home/freshuser
[14:07] <xjohnthomasx> I'm on graphical login lightdm, gdm, or ldm. I type in login and pass. Black screen. Kicked back to graphical login.
[14:07] <xjohnthomasx> Otherwise, tty 2, cli login, password. Fine.
[14:08] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: did you make changes to global files such as bash's bashrc, profile, or even files in /etc/skel as MickS suggested we check?
[14:08] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, There's no /home/freshuser
[14:08] <xjohnthomasx> Nope. Not personally or manually. All I did last was shrink the /home and expand the /swap.
[14:08] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: by "freshuser" I mean the name of the new/fresh user you created that also can't log in
[14:08] <xjohnthomasx> And did an update/upgrade from the cli.
[14:08] <xjohnthomasx> Yes. I know.
[14:09] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: how did you create him?
[14:09] <zykotick9> xjohnthomasx: if you have ever used sudo with a gui program, check for root owned files in your users home
[14:09] <xjohnthomasx> adduser
[14:09] <xjohnthomasx> Gparted live might have changed permissions because it's a root program with a gui. I did however do a chown -R of all my home folder.. Didn't seen to help.
[14:09] <xjohnthomasx> seem
[14:09] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: you're sure you used "adduser" and not "useradd"? "adduser" will create a home directory but "useradd" won't
[14:10] <kristenbb> Hi
[14:10] <kristenbb> Can someone here me ?
[14:11] <MickS> jrib: cli login works, so the user has been added properly with homedir I suppose
[14:11] <jrib> kristenbb: we can see what you type ;)
[14:11] <Erealz> anyone use pgp?
[14:11] <xjohnthomasx> Ok, made another user. One sec
[14:11] <xjohnthomasx> I don't know/remember which. Will try again
[14:12] <Erealz> what part of my gpg key is the key id im a lil lost?
[14:12] <MickS> Erealz: might be better if you just ask your question ;-)
[14:12] <Erealz> gpg  --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --send-keys Key Id
[14:12] <jrib> MickS: it will still log in but complain that HOME doesn't exist and set it to / (at least with dash)
[14:13] <Erealz> im trying to send my key but i dont know what exactly is the key id?
[14:13] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, don't see xsession in the new user home folder
[14:13] <Erealz> that basically it
[14:13] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, only bash logout, bash rc, profile xauth, xdefault, and xscreensaver
[14:13] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: and you tried to log in through lightdm already?
[14:13] <xjohnthomasx> Maybe xsession error isn't created until first graphical/Xstart
[14:13] <xjohnthomasx> I tried logging in with xubuntu from graphical
[14:13] <xjohnthomasx> Kicked back to same
[14:14] <mJayk> anybody recomment a CLI text editor ?
[14:14] <jrib> mJayk: nano, vim, emacs
[14:14] <mJayk> merci ill try nano
[14:14] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, lightdm, yes. is default.
[14:14] <xjohnthomasx> i also have gdm and lxdm
[14:15] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: pastebin « df -h »
[14:15] <xjohnthomasx> are those quotes?
[14:15] <MickS> Erealz: it's the 8-char hex code
[14:15] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: yes, they are quotes for you, you shouldn't include them in the command
[14:16] <xjohnthomasx> what's the exact command you'd type? says can't read from df
[14:16] <Erealz> micks how can i display that?
[14:16] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: df -h
[14:16] <MickS> Erealz: gpg --list-public-keys
[14:17] <Erealz> that did it
[14:17] <Erealz> thanx bro
[14:17] <SuperLag> All is not perfection in Linuxland for me. The joys of using the non-repo Nvidia drivers. *sigh*
[14:17] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, http://paste.ubuntu.com/5786881/
[14:17] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: since you are pastibinning things, include « ls -l /home/*/.xsession-errors » and the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  Include any commands you type too so we don't miss things because of typos
[14:18] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: your /home is full
[14:18] <MickS> Erealz: my pleasure
[14:18] <xjohnthomasx> Seems home is full?
[14:18] <xjohnthomasx> Might be the problem?
[14:18] <SuperLag> jrib: I know I'm late since you were talking about this a few minutes ago... but if you use the -m switch, useradd *will* create a ~
[14:18] <xjohnthomasx> But it says use is less than avail
[14:18] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: probably
[14:18] <xjohnthomasx> Weird
[14:18] <FloodBot1> xjohnthomasx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:18] <skinnyblondegirl> hello, i need assistance in configuring my touchpad, it is very stick though works but not smooth.  I am have looked around and not sure what needs to be done, i have played around with the setting but to no avail.  I think i may need the drivers but doing a xinput - list it says i have a core xtest pointer.  thank you
[14:18] <mJayk> jrib: thanks nano works nicely
[14:18] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: some space is reserved for root (you can and probably should change that for the /home partition though)
[14:19] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: it's based on percentage by default.  And 18GB reserved is way more than you want imo
[14:19] <vnc786> quit
[14:20] <xjohnthomasx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5786895 http://paste.ubuntu.com5786896
[14:20] <mementomori> hi
[14:20] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: yep, just take care of your space issue and you should be set I imagine
[14:20] <das> Using LVM, ls it possible to add a physical volume to a volume group if the phisical volume is mounted already ?
[14:21] <xjohnthomasx> Take care how? Delete some things from /home?
[14:21] <mementomori> is pidgin present in a default installation?
[14:21] <jrib> xjohnthomasx: yes, or reduce the amount reserved for root
[14:22] <skinnyblondegirl> hello, i need assistance in configuring my touchpad, it is very stick though works but not smooth.  I am have looked around and not sure what needs to be done, i have played around with the setting but to no avail.  I think i may need the drivers but doing a xinput - list it says i have a core xtest pointer.  thank you
[14:24] <xjohnthomasx> what's the command to ls and pause every screen length?
[14:25] <zykotick9> xjohnthomasx: "ls | more" is the old-school, while "ls | less" is more modern
[14:25] <marianne> hi, I'm running 12.04, can someone confirm that the next LTS release is 13.04?
[14:25] <xjohnthomasx> zykotick9, is there a way to ls from descending size order?
[14:25] <somsip> marianne: 14.04
[14:26] <zykotick9> xjohnthomasx: well ya, but i don't know off hand.  you'd need size in the output, then a pipe to sort, and possible a reverse switch for sort...  good luck.
[14:26] <marianne> somsip: seriously?
[14:27] <zykotick9> xjohnthomasx: if you want to know the size of directories, i'd check out the ncdu program (not installed by default)
[14:27] <somsip> marianne: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS "A new LTS version is released every 2 years. In previous releases"
[14:27] <tsonko> hi
[14:27] <xjohnthomasx> Any good command line file manager?
[14:28] <marianne> somsip: thanks for the link....
[14:28] <xjohnthomasx> A tty file manager?
[14:28] <tsonko> may I chat with someone please
[14:28] <zykotick9> xjohnthomasx: mc is old school, ranger is newer
[14:29] <auronandace> tsonko: state your ubuntu issue and someone will help if they choose to
[14:29] <tsonko> hello
[14:30] <tsonko> taibou.sonko@gmail.com
[14:31] <OerHeks> tsonko this channel is logged, so you will get more mail now.
[14:31] <zykotick9> tsonko: it's a bad idea to post your email address in irc channels that are logged.  this will go onto a web site where bots, can now harvest your email address -- just sayin'
[14:31] <marianne> ok, now that I know I have a while left on my 12.04, I'm thinking about a system76 machine.... since this is the support channel, I would love to know what everyone thinks and if they have run across a lot of issues with these machines.
[14:32] <OerHeks> marianne this is not system76 support, ubuntu will run fine on it though
[14:33] <freon> where to talk about zigbee?
[14:34] <redgirl> hellow! does ubuntu server 13.04 reconnect wifi?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> redgirl: should do, it uses network-manager just like the desktop
[14:34] <marianne> OerHeks: I'm more interested in the OS than the hardware, but was wondering if anyone here had used one with ubuntu loaded... going to search for system76 support now
[14:35] <redgirl> huh, i just rebooted my router and ubuntu disappeared behind nat...
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> freon: http://irc.lc/ircnet/rtsd.zigbee/irctc@@@
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> marianne: could contact them directly
[14:36] <redgirl> ActionParsnip, what i could check in network-manager to be sure that ubuntu will reconnect next time?
[14:38] <marianne> ActionParsnip: sent them an email and got a generic response, so when the vendor fails, ask the end users...
[14:39] <marianne> ActionParsnip: I'm just getting tired of having to build my own machines to get what I want, and their systems are really closeand running the right OS
[14:39] <weimei> ..
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> marianne: are they ubuntu certified?
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> marianne  maybe you can specialize in hardware for ubuntu, it would be most welcome, i guess
[14:42] <doomlord> is there a compatability list showing how well ubuntu runs on win8 devices( i'm thinking of hybrids like surface pro, sony duo etc)
[14:42] <Ari-Yang> marianne, there's always lubuntu and xubuntu if you want something lighter (assuming that's what you want)
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> marianne  apart from System76, there's also ZaReason
[14:43] <marianne> ActionParsnip: yes, they appear to be certified, as I found the items on omgubuntu
[14:44] <marianne> Ari-Yang: I'mma desktop kinda girl and starting to do development on linux/ubuntu, so lighter isn't really necessary
[14:45] <Ari-Yang> ah, okay
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> https://zareason.com/shop/Desktops/
[14:45] <marianne> MonkeyDust: Awesome, I'll check them out too...thanks
[14:46] <Ari-Yang> marianne, wait, you're looking for machines that already have ubuntu pre-installed?
[14:47] <marianne> Ari-Yang: thats how I would like to go this time... I really hate having to install and configure...
[14:47] <xjohnthomasx> what's cli to empty trash
[14:47] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, why would myhome say 400 of 425 used, but still 100%?
[14:47] <marianne> Ari-Yang: Or something that has hardware installed that is vetted for Linux
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> xjohnthomasx  ~/.local/share/Trash/
[14:48] <xjohnthomasx> what's the command to empty it? just rm the files?
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> xjohnthomasx  rm ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[14:50] <nocturn00> Hi, how can I remove uefi boot from grub... I set the bios to disabel it but now Ubuntu does not boot
[14:50] <nocturn00> off course...
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> xjohnthomasx: in kde: ktrash --empty
[14:50] <Ari-Yang> marianne, you could also think about building a machine (ordering the parts from newegg) that will have better specs than those machines.
[14:50] <Ari-Yang> just throwing the thought out there
[14:51] <ingamedeo> nocturn00, Sure, it you have installed an UEFI system
[14:51] <ingamedeo> *if
[14:51] <xjohnthomasx> jrib, Thank you - just was an over full home partition.. haha.. all that for so simple a thing...
[14:51] <xjohnthomasx> D'oh
[14:52] <nocturn00> ingamedeo: I have, but UEFI causes a module on my laptop not to load, without UEFI it works
[14:52] <freon> virtual disk as single or multiple file? since im never gonna move it it doesnt matter if i ahve a single file right? just easier?
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> !info trash-cli
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> cools
[14:53] <ingamedeo> nocturn00, So, if you have installed with UEFI enabled now if you disable it in the BIOS it ll neva work
[14:54] <nocturn00> ingamedeo: I know, but does that mean reinstalling or can I load grub in normal mode
[14:54] <nocturn00> I'm on a livecd
[14:54] <armin> hm, a focused windo seems brighter in unity on my setup. anyone a clue why that could be the cause?
[14:55] <armin> +w
[14:55] <smokie> hey guys, anyone know of a way to run an internet speed test using terminal?
[14:55] <ingamedeo> nocturn00, For me it means reinstalling
[14:55] <jrib> smokie: wget <bigfile>
[14:55] <ingamedeo> smoke_, Use wget
[14:55] <ingamedeo> jrib, Indeed!!!
[14:55] <marianne> Ari-Yang: That's what I have right now and yes, it is doable. Just trying to save some time... but it's probably what I'll end up doing
[14:56] <smokie> jrib, yeah, obviously i could do that.. but i dont have any big files online
[14:57] <ingamedeo> smoke_, Do you have to test a website speed or your internet connection speed?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> smokie: use wget to grab the ubuntu dvd, lots of chance to get up to full whack
[14:59] <smokie> ah true.. the ubuntu image
[15:02] <gartral> hey all, I have a really weird issue, I'm editing source for a driver, and I can't actully make the edit stick, even as root.. for some reason it keeps getting reverted.. even after I lock the file as read-only by root.
[15:10] <blz> Hello, I've had a few system hangs that have caused me to either REISUB or hard reboot.  Which log files should I look at to figure out what went wrong?
[15:12] <gartral> blz /var/log/syslog and /var/log/kern.log would be good places to start
[15:12] <blz> gartral, thanks
[15:15] <blz> gartral, hmm so I have a bunch fo `null`s in both of those files at the time of the last crash... would you mind taking a look?
[15:16] <blz> gartral, kern.log:  http://hastebin.com/livorolebo.css
[15:16] <eklo> In precise, how can I change the ssh last login to print the IP instead of the name
[15:16] <blz> gartral, yikes... hastebin seems to have cropped out the line of 100 or so 'null's on line 40
[15:16] <nicky> any popular online game that can be run on ubuntu wihtot vm or the like
[15:17] <Kion> nicky:  I like OpenArena a lot
[15:17] <foobArrr> I have trouble installing 12.04.2 (alternate). In my first try, the installer froze after network setup, now in my second try it froze after setting up luks. it looks like this: http://s3.imgimg.de/uploads/IMG0341660b51b2JPG.jpg
[15:18] <blz> and here's syslog:  http://hastebin.com/hifolibepo.py  The DATA_ERROR lines repeat a few thousand times...
[15:18] <blz> I'm not sure what to make of this =/
[15:19] <nicky> non 3d kion
[15:19] <adie> how do I change terminal sudo timeout time?
[15:19] <Kion> nicky: I use e-board to play chess online ....
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> adie  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183418
[15:23] <bdmeyersc> Does anyone know what I should be looking for, to fix: When I vnc into 'precise'  all i have is a grey screen? (vino-server)
[15:27] <compdoc> bdmeyersc, you may need to correct your xstartup
[15:28] <bdmeyersc> COmpDoc. Ok, you know, it indeed does look like a bad X config. I didn't think of that. Ill see what I can figure out. Thank-you.
[15:30] <frack> hi I have a query...
[15:30] <frack> I am having issue with my wifi connection..
[15:30] <frack> Only my Wifi is not visible at Computer.. but other people are visible
[15:31] <frack> also I can use Wifi connection at my other devices..
[15:31] <melow01> I'm trying to setup a VLC stream and I'm wondering what this is: v4l2:///dev/video0
[15:31] <frack> I used to have same issue with windows, to fix it, I used to use "Troubleshooting Network"... But in case of ubuntu there isn't anything like it..
[15:32] <frack> Anyone can help?
[15:32] <melow01> I realize that dev is device and video0 is video but what is v4l2
[15:33] <melow01> frack, which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[15:33] <blz> frack are you saying your SSID is not visible?
[15:33] <frack> v41l2 looks like protocol for VLC like http/https
[15:33] <frack> I am using 12.04
[15:34] <wolf29_> Cursor is not visible over some program windows; skype, system monitor, sqlitebrowser.  I have xfce desktop, most of the xubuntu desktop environment, kde.  Original install was of UbuntuStudio
[15:34] <melow01> ok, found it... v4l2 = Video for Linux 2; but how is it used in VLC? Is this an application that grabs the stream from my video device?
[15:34] <frack> yes blz
[15:35] <frack> my SSID is not visible.. I have been using it for some time now... but vanished
[15:35] <frack> same issue was with windows, but troubleshooting networking used to fix it..
[15:36] <frack> I tried invisible connection, but didn't work....
[15:36] <blz> frack, have you tried using the "connect to a hidden wifi network" option?
[15:36] <blz> Ah okay =)
[15:36] <frack> I also try to reset card but nothing ...
[15:36] <blz> frack, what does nm-tool give you? Can you pastebin the output?
[15:37] <jdoles> Do I need acpi-support for anything?
[15:37] <frack> pastebin?
[15:37] <blz> frack, paste.ubuntu.com
[15:38] <blz> post the output of nm-tool there, and then give us the resulting link so we can look at it
[15:38] <SolarisBoy> melow01: its the way vlc references v4l devices
[15:38] <melow01> frack, pastebin is a utility to paste text online so others can view it.
[15:38] <frack> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5787089/
[15:38] <blz> frack, there's only one access point around you? Or did you truncate the output?
[15:39] <melow01> SolarisBoy, ok... so I was reading that its an API for Video...
[15:39] <SolarisBoy> melow01: its the api for video cams
[15:39] <SolarisBoy> yeps
[15:39] <frack> no only one is around... my own is missing..
[15:39] <SolarisBoy> melow01: you can mess around with it's functionality by installing v4l-tools and see more what it does and is used for
[15:39] <SolarisBoy> i think it's the name of the package ::scratches head::
[15:39] <jrtappers> Is there a way to override the way flash gets the res of the display? It scales itself for my desktop space, and it then letterboxes to one screen
[15:39] <melow01> SolarisBoy, I seem to be getting this error: "cannot set standard 0xb000: Invalid argument"
[15:40] <melow01> SolarisBoy, oh thanks for the tip on tools
[15:40] <blz> frack, so I don't see anything that's outright *wrong*, but my own nm-tool output says "Default: yes" for my wireless card
[15:40] <blz> maybe somebody else has an idea =/
[15:40] <blz> frack, silly question, but did you try restarting your wireless router?
[15:40] <SolarisBoy> melow01: what do you get that from? or where at? is that coming from vlc command when your using v4l options or a specific v4l device?
[15:40] <jrtappers> Because I have 2 screens, and it seems to be scaling for both, and displaying on one, so it letterboxes videos badly
[15:41] <SolarisBoy> hmm melow01 are you trying to stream and use audio from an alsa device?
[15:42] <frack> blz, yes wireless card is fine with other wifi if I try to do hotspot it get connect but not with this one.. Is there some tool like "troubleshooting network" in ubuntu? since that used to fix the issue on windows.. :(
[15:42] <freon> is it to tough for the computer to give a VM 2GB if you have 4 in total? when i run the VM i just run the VM...
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> freon: Should be fine
[15:42] <blz> frack, not as far as I know... I'm sure if it's something that the windows troubleshooter can figure out, then someone here will know the answer
[15:42] <blz> just sit tight
[15:42] <blz> I'm one of those lucky bastards whose never had wifi issues =)
[15:44] <frack> lol.. I should have seen the logs, I guess i have to reinstall window and check how that windows troubleshooter were fixing the issue... I only saw something reset wifi.. I thought it might reinstall the driver.. But i also tried to do it manually but didn't used to work...
[15:45] <freon> Where do I start the shell? I just installed vmare version
[15:45] <frack> goto dash home search for terminal freon
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> freon: I suggest you use virtualbox if you are new to virtualization
[15:48] <freon> i did, but searched for shell instead :) got it now
[15:48] <freon> nah vmware is easy and good have used it before
[15:49] <need_help> hii pls i need help! i have ubuntu 11.10 suddenly no more output sound
[15:49] <need_help> i remove pulseaudio and reinstall it back the same
[15:50] <theseus> just did a clean install of Ubuntu 12.04, applied updates and I am getting no sound.
[15:50] <theseus> any ideas?
[15:50] <loganrun> for a stupid java app popups appear behind the main window and I can't resize the main window or make it go to the back. is there a way to make popups appear in the front
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> need_help: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[15:50] <theseus> did that
[15:50] <theseus> nothing
[15:50] <theseus> sound works in headphones but not speakers
[15:51] <theseus> sound was working find on my machine from the last time I installed it
[15:51] <theseus> so I know drivers work with Ubuntu
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> theseus: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[15:53] <need_help> ActionParsnip shall i do the same ?
[15:53] <Matthew_Moore> Dose anyone here now anything about Conky?    i am having an issue with letters overlapping in mine.  here is a screenshot.      http://i812.photobucket.com/albums/zz47/pcbuilder97/Screenshotfrom2013-06-21114015_zps8e5898df.png
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> need_help: if you have sound issues, then the generated URL can help diagnose stuff
[15:54] <theseus> ActionParsnip: it tells me the model of my machine and a lot of other stuff
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> theseus: yes, and the sound setup....
[15:54] <PhoenixSTF> Hello I am having kernel panics over at my 13.04, it may have something to do with wireless
[15:54] <ActionParsnip> theseus: what is the generated URL?
[15:54] <PhoenixSTF> any fixes?
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: which wifi chip? Details please.....
[15:55] <theseus> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=92f121b6496e9b2e0b00d1e4821683536b93dae5
[15:55] <adie> I'm looking for a font that will be easier to read; http://i.imgur.com/OHURNNE.png
[15:56] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, Broadcom BCM4313
[15:56] <adie> any recommendatiomns?
[15:56] <need_help> ActionParsnip http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=cb70e5c65c5245b0cc53fb2eaad24e2674fe4d44
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: did you install the driver as per the broadcom howto
[15:57] <need_help> ActionParsnip based on the log can u look if u can help me to identify the issue pls
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> theseus: if you run the sound app in dash as well as:  alsamixer   in terminal, are the levels maxed and unmuted?
[15:57] <PhoenixSTF> ActionParsnip, no I just did the distro upgrade from 12.10 to 13.04
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> need_help: Oneiric is EOL, it is no longer supported in any way
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: try removing it then readd it
[15:57] <need_help> ActionParsnip ya i know but its hard to re-install ,this lappy is in the other country
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> PhoenixSTF: just so you know, Raring is EOL in January 2014 wheras Quantal is EOL in April 2014
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> need_help: doesnt make it supported
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> need_help: Oneiric is EOL
[15:58] <theseus> ActionParsnip: not all are maxed in alsamixer but when I did maxed them in the past it would cause some problems.  For example, when starting up the machine before login the sound when always be blasting but after log in there would be no sound
[15:58] <loganrun> for a stupid java app popups appear behind the main window and I can't resize the main window or make it go to the back. is there a way to make popups appear in the front
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> need_help: you can upgrade to Precise in one jump as it is the next release
[15:59] <need_help> ActionParsnip sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[15:59] <theseus> ActionParsnip: I just maxed the speakers again in alsamixer and still no sound
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | need_help
[16:00] <zero_coder> hello
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> theseus: try: echo "options snd-hda-intel model=clevo-m540r" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null      reboot to test
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> theseus: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1733323.html   shows some possible models
[16:01] <zero_coder> how can I attach shortcut keys with application
[16:01] <zero_coder> like I want to attach ctrl+alt+T for terminal
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> theseus: change that file with the other clevo ones til it works. Also try  model=laptop
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> theseus: you will eventually hit the setting you need
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> zero_coder: you can use commands in ccsm
[16:02] <SonikkuAmerica> zero_coder: If you're using Ubuntu with Unity or Lubuntu, that's already preset. In Xubuntu it's Super+T. In Kubuntu you have to set it yourself.
[16:02] <zero_coder> i am using kubuntu SonikkuAmerica
[16:02]  * wolf29_ would like to get the settings I need
[16:02] <zero_coder> SonikkuAmerica :no idea how to set it
[16:02] <SonikkuAmerica> zero_coder: (We have a #kubuntu channel, by the way)
[16:02] <zero_coder> SonikkuAmerica  : its kinda dead
[16:05] <wheatthin> zero_coder, try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/107879/bind-keys-to-actions-in-kde-4
[16:13] <freon> is there an irc client included with ubuntu?
[16:14] <zero2XIII> freon: nope. Install pidgin
[16:14] <Pici> freon: I believe that Empathy is being shipped with Ubuntu by default, but it is a very poor IRC client.
[16:15] <zero2XIII> freon: there are other options, but pidgin has a whole lot of networks that is supports... +1 for empathy being a poor irc client
[16:16] <erek> anyone here using natty narwhal?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> pidgin rocks for irc imho :)
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> erek: natty is EOL and no longer supported
[16:16] <erek> ActionParsnip: i am attempting to install kdenlive 0.8.0, and it seems i could only get it on natty narwhal
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> erek: https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/kdenlive-release?field.series_filter=precise
[16:18] <Pici> erek: Is there a reason you need tha version?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> erek: for Precise. LTS until Aril 2017
[16:18] <zero2XIII> erek, it is in the repros for 12.04
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> !info kdenlive precise
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> erek: so its also in the Precise repos....
[16:19] <Pici> And in Raring.
[16:19] <erek> i require 0.8.0 specifically
[16:19] <erek> anything newer has a bug in it
[16:22] <zero2XIII> erek: which bug? I use it and it works on 12.04
[16:22] <boogy> Hello
[16:22] <erek> zero2XIII: Bezier Curves crashes it for me
[16:22] <erek> adding Bezier Curves to a clip on the timeline crashes kdenlive
[16:22] <zero2XIII> erek: what version are you using that is crashing?
[16:22] <freon> i cant change the keyboard to swedish. when i press '-' i get '/'
[16:22] <erek> zero2XIII: 0.9.6
[16:23] <boogy> I tried to enable hybrid graphics in ubuntu 13.04 and after the reboot it only starts in low-graphic mode :(
[16:23] <erek> zero2XIII: in the ppa sunab kdenlive-release or -svn i don't even get access to Bezier Curves in the effects list
[16:23] <zero2XIII> erek: 0.8.2.1 is in the official repros.. for 12.04 atleast. Give that a try maybe?
[16:23] <rookie2030> hi all
[16:23] <zero2XIII> erek: oooh it is due to the bug in another file
[16:23] <erek> zero2XIII: how do i access it? i attempted to list the reverse version available
[16:24] <rookie2030> i have problem to install my nvivia drivers
[16:24] <erek> no reverse versions were liste
[16:24] <erek> d
[16:24] <rookie2030> appears that The Nouveau kernel driver is currently in use by your system
[16:24] <zero2XIII> erek: 2012/05/30 : OpenCV support for frei0r-plugins is disabled for Precise builds due to unresolved problem causing crashes in melt.
[16:24] <rookie2030> on my dell xps 17
[16:24] <zero2XIII> erek: I am not sure, use synaptic and force the version?
[16:24] <daftykins> rookie2030: how did you install the nvidia ones? did you download manually?
[16:25] <erek> zero2XIII: i heard that it only disabled OpenCV, and all the other things should work
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> rookie2030: what CPU do you have?
[16:25] <zero2XIII> erek: Oh.. Still try the older version?
[16:26] <zero2XIII> erek: trying to see how to do it from terminal
[16:26] <zero2XIII> erek: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get
[16:27] <rookie2030> Nvidia GeForce GT 525M
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> rookie2030: no, CPU, not GPU
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> rookie2030: what is the output of: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep model\ name
[16:27] <rookie2030> daftykins: i download directly from Nvidia linux x64 drivers
[16:27] <daftykins> rookie2030: yeah that wasn't the best idea really
[16:28] <daftykins> !nvidia | rookie2030
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> rookie2030: you dont need to manually install drivers
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> rookie2030: this isnt windows
[16:28] <erek> zero2XIII: apt-cache showpkg kdenlive reveals i caninstlal 0.8.4unbunt1
[16:28] <erek> zero2XIII: with that build i do not even see Bezier Curves in my effects
[16:28] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: you heard anything about optimus getting into the kernel? (the nvidia combo tech)
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> daftykins: no idea, I'm avoiding that mess like Paris Hilton avoids talent
[16:28] <zero2XIII> erek: then I have no idea what you can do... Maybe find old source and try to compile?...
[16:29] <daftykins> ActionParsnip: ja, i was telling someone in #xbmc the other day they should go back to Windows on an Optimus system, then someone said it's in the kernel D: might give it a try.
[16:29] <rookie2030> ActionParsnip: Interl core i7
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> rookie2030: which i7 though?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> rookie2030: the command I gave will TELL you
[16:29] <skinnyblondegirl> hello, i need assistance in configuring my touchpad, it is very stick though works but not smooth.  I am have looked around and not sure what needs to be done, i have played around with the setting but to no avail.  I think i may need the drivers but doing a xinput - list it says i have a core xtest pointer.  thank you
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> skinnyblondegirl: what make and model system?
[16:30] <Apostata0> Hi, anyone can help with some C programming ?, i just need suggestions to building a weighted graph
[16:31] <skinnyblondegirl> ActionParsnip: how can i find that out ? ubuntu 12.04 with classic menue, acer ultrabook
[16:31] <benbb> Find what out:?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> rookie2030: if your CPU has a GPU in it (intel based) then you have an optimus switching GPU system and will need to look into Bumblebee to support it
[16:31] <zero2XIII> Apostata0: I think you should rather join a programming channel?
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> skinnyblondegirl: sudo dmidecode -t 1     will tell you, you can then use that to find guides regarding Linux online for it
[16:32] <MinecraftRocks> guys who likes ubuntu more than windows?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> MinecraftRocks: that is offtopic here
[16:32] <MinecraftRocks> srry
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> MinecraftRocks: try in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[16:32] <Apostata0> zero2XIII: I tried with #C, do you know other programming channels ?
[16:33] <bmxscott1993> do anyone now how do i sort this out only happens on ubuntu 13.04 it frezyes and go like this click the link that the pic of the problem http://goo.gl/yEXT8
[16:33] <wheatthin> when is the next release after 13.04 going to be available?
[16:33] <DJones> !13.10 | wheatthin
[16:33] <zero2XIII> Apostata0: ##C or Server: irc.dal.net Channel: #csupport
[16:34] <DJones> wheatthin: 13.10 = October 2013
[16:35] <wheatthin> DJones, thanks man
[16:35] <bmxscott1993> do any one els get this now and then click the link http://goo.gl/yEXT8 it a pic off the new ubuntu 13.04 frezzing
[16:36] <daftykins> bmxscott1993: are you sure it's not a hardware issue?
[16:36] <bmxscott1993> i no it not never happen when running 12 or 11
[16:37] <bmxscott1993> it only happens on 13
[16:38] <zero2XIII> bmxscott1993, daftykins, those look like overclocked hardware, or really buddy graphics driver install. Happened to me when I OCed my GPU in windows a while back
[16:38] <Apostata0> i have the well known issue with hdmi audio and ubuntu 13.04, i updated kernel and now i have hdmi as output device but it still doesnt works, did i forgot something?
[16:38] <zero2XIII> buggy**
[16:38] <bmxscott1993> ok kl
[16:38] <prasoon> Hello all..... my ubuntu 1304 is installed in a acer laptop. now after it updated through software updater .... none of the accesories including graphis , USB wifi & lan is not working .. Kindly help
[16:39] <bmxscott1993> it run then when im doing stuff now and then it just frezz like that
[16:39] <jY> anyone have any issues with apt-get update hanging on "99% [1 Translation-en_US bzip2 0]"
[16:39] <zero2XIII> jY, nope
[16:40] <zero2XIII> jY, try a different server, such as international server. (main server)
[16:40] <jY> zero2XIII: it's hanging on a local repo.. "stat("/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/repo.domain.net_repo_en%5fUS.decomp", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=0, ...}) = 0"
[16:42] <ForSpareParts> Those of you who do webdev: how do you generally deal with keeping outdated libs in sync between a server environment and your dev environment? My work's on a 10.04 server and I'm doing 13.04 desktop -- there's lots of stuff I need that doesn't exist anymore, and not everything has a PPA.
[16:42] <zero2XIII> jY, sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update
[16:42] <zero2XIII> jy, try that
[16:42] <jY> already did.. no help
[16:43] <jY> it's something with our new repo.. old one works
[16:43] <jY> so i'll poke around there
[16:43] <zero2XIII> jY, then I have no idea.. I would manualy rename the file.. But I do not suggest you do that. Could do serious damage...
[16:44] <jrib> ForSpareParts: run 10.04 in a virtual machine on your work machine and develop on that
[16:44] <zero2XIII> jY, cool
[16:45] <preyalone> How does Ubuntu run on the new MacBook Air?
[16:45] <ForSpareParts> jrib, Suppose I could. Is that really the best solution? My 13.04 is actually a VM itself right now, although I may change that. Most everyone at work is just using OSX to develop, and I'm not really feeling it.
[16:46] <rookie2030> ActionParsnip: model name      : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2720QM CPU @ 2.20GHz
[16:48] <rookie2030> daftykins: its possible to install nvidea drivers
[16:48] <jrib> ForSpareParts: that's the easiest way to match your development environment imo (by actually running the same thing).  To be clear I would still work with my editor and such in 13.04, but I would have the virtual machine setup as a local server for me to deploy and test to
[16:48] <daftykins> rookie2030: i linked you to how.
[16:48] <rookie2030> ill follow al steps
[16:49] <rookie2030> and appers distribution provided pre install script failed
[16:49] <jrib> ForSpareParts: how are the OS X people obtaining and maintaining these old libs that don't exist anymore?
[16:49] <ForSpareParts> jrib, Right, that's what I figured. Doesn't using the VM for everything that make running the server during active development a little difficult, though?
[16:49] <jrgill2> How do I get libnet-dns-perl to 0.72?  I'm on precise and updated.
[16:49] <ForSpareParts> jrib, They're just installing them manually. Tarballs, basically.
[16:50] <ForSpareParts> Difference is just that they have a set of very precise instructions to help them do it.
[16:50] <jrib> ForSpareParts: well you can go that same route (tarballs) I guess, but it will be more of a pain imo.  Why do you think using the vm will be difficult?  I guess it depends on what exactly you are doing
[16:51] <jrib> ForSpareParts: do you want to say specifically what you're working with and what's missing in 13.04?
[16:52] <ForSpareParts> jrib, Done the tarball thing for a few packages already, and it's been profoundly awful. I assumed it would be hard to (for instance) make a change, rerun the server to see it in action, make another change, reload, etc. -- but maybe not, if you're sharing the directory.
[16:53] <ForSpareParts> jrib, There have been several things, but the biggest one so far has been mysql. We're on 1.6.
[16:53] <jrib> ForSpareParts: right, suppose you use tarballs.  What do you do then to test?  You would be doing the same thing, except you're likely sharing a directory on a virtual machine and pointing your browser to the virtual machine's web server instead of a local one
[16:53] <pero_p> hi, i have a problem. i deleted a folder. but after a while the folder come's up!! it's in download folder and i Shift+Delete every time the folder. is this because ext4 needs to be checked?
[16:54] <rhn_mk1> hi! I need to test a vanilla kernel without Ubuntu patches. do I need to compile it from source or can I get it from a repo?
[16:54] <pero_p> and i checked it, but problem still exist!
[16:55] <jrib> rhn_mk1: I guess you can check for PPAs or third party repos but I don't know of any.  Why do you need to test a vanilla kernel?  You have an issue and you suspect an ubuntu patch?  Ubottu has instructions on compiling the kernel the debian/ubuntu way (just change the git repository so you don't get the ubuntu patches)
[16:55] <jrib> !kernel | rhn_mk1
[16:56] <pero_p> ah i found the problem, Transmission make the folder's automatically!
[16:57] <erek> anyone here like Natty Narwhal?
[16:57] <trism> rhn_mk1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[16:57] <jrib> erek: why do you ask? :)
[16:57] <auronandace> !natty | erek
[16:57] <rhn_mk1> jrib, trism: thanks!
[16:58] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | erek
[16:59] <erek> jrib: pretty good release, wasn't it?
[16:59] <jrib> erek: I guess, but do you have a support question?  If you don't and would like to chat instead, please join us in #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:00] <erek> jrib: trying to get kdenlive 0.8.0 running
[17:00] <jrib> erek: on natty?
[17:00] <erek> yup
[17:00] <jrib> erek: but natty is end-of-life: no more support and no more security upgrades
[17:01] <lotuspsychje> erek: its highly recommended to upgrade or clean install higher versions
[17:01] <Dustin> Hi there. Just installed Ubuntu 13.04 - Having some audio issues, mainly input (microphone, static and background noise). Also, skype isn't allowing me to hear any sound, but a ventrilo alternative (mangler) is working just fine. Any help is appreciated
[17:01] <Dustin> new to linux.
[17:01] <jrib> erek: if you upgrade to a supported release like 12.04 LTS (precise) or 13.04 (raring), we can help you get kdenlive
[17:02] <erek> jrib: what version are you running?
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> Dustin: did you clean install or upgrade?
[17:03] <Dustin> lotuspsychje: clean install
[17:04] <Dustin> have ran all updates, etc
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> Dustin: any drivers list in 'additional drivers ' section?
[17:05] <Dustin> lotuspsychje: I don't see an "additional drivers" anywhere.
[17:05] <lotuspsychje> Dustin: software&updates last tab additional drivers
[17:06] <Dustin> lotuspsychje: nope, none
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> erek: if your pc can handle 13.04 i would recommend it highly
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> Dustin: any logs that can help us find your prob @ /var/log/
[17:06] <Dustin> lotuspsychje: audio works, just having issues with Skype and my microphone having static / background noise.
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> Dustin: how about you start skype from terminal to see whats going on
[17:07] <rookie2030> i just install the nvidia drivers but i see everything big
[17:07] <ThothCastel> I am on the process of configuring an LDAP server on a ubuntu server through the CLI - >https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/openldap-server.html  --- when replacing this olcRootDN: cn=admin,dc=example,dc=com with my own configuration for a domain as procopio.co.uk should I add olcRootDN: cn=admin,dc=procopio,dc=co,dc=uk ????
[17:07] <rookie2030> i think faild x server
[17:07] <ThothCastel> I am getting a syntax error  http://ircshare.com/i/bp
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> ThothCastel: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know it aswell
[17:08] <ThothCastel> lotuspsychje: ok, thanks! I am not getting any responses over there :/
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> ThothCastel: oh nvm then :p
[17:09] <ThothCastel> :)
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> !ldap
[17:09] <Dustin> lotuspsychje: ALSA lib control.c:951:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL iec958:CARD=PCH
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> Dustin: maybe this can help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingGuide
[17:12] <rhn_mk1> jrib: yes, I have a weird problem with a chroot that shows up on ubuntu only. checking if kernel is at fault
[17:13] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: checking the kernel ???
[17:13] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: it's chroot - it has nothing to do with the kernel
[17:14] <rhn_mk1> ikonia: chroot still uses host kernel, and that's pretty much the only thing that's different across distros
[17:14] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: it won't use the kernel
[17:14] <rhn_mk1> (when using a chroot)
[17:14] <ikonia> the kernel is already running....
[17:14] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: and there are MANY more things different in distros
[17:14] <jrib> probably more progress will be made if you just state the issue in case you want an opinion on it, rhn_mk1
[17:15] <rhn_mk1> jrib: well, this is a gentoo chroot. long story short, works fine on top of centos, not quite so on top of ubuntu
[17:16] <ikonia> what do you mean a gentoo chroot
[17:16] <bigroomsmallhous> oh really rhn what do you use ubunutu for?
[17:16] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: please explain what you are actually doing
[17:16] <mbnoimi> is there any GUI tool for managing cron?
[17:17] <rhn_mk1> bigroomsmallhous: ubuntu serves as a host system for an app thet needs gentoo
[17:17] <jrib> mbnoimi: gnome-schedule comes up in a repository search, but I've never used it. We can help you with edit your crontab manually if you tell us what you want to do
[17:17] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: why are you running ubuntu if your application needs gentoo ?
[17:18] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: you'd need to run gentoo if your application "needs" gentoo - or look at what it really needs specfically rather than the genric term "gentoo"
[17:18] <rhn_mk1> ikonia: this is not the only application on the system. it needs portage :P
[17:18] <ikonia> I'd doubt very much that it "needs" gentoo rather than just a specific component in a specific way
[17:18] <mbnoimi> jrib: I want to make backup by Areca but I need scheduler to do that
[17:19] <jrib> mbnoimi: I don't know what areca is.  Would you like help editing your crontab?
[17:19] <Dustin> lotuspsychje: one more issue, if you don't mind. 'sudo apt-get update', I get this: W: GPG error: https://download.01.org Ubuntu Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8D8847D52F4AAA66
[17:19] <mbnoimi> jrib: http://www.areca-backup.org/
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> Dustin: not sure mate, seems like a weird https
[17:22] <Dustin> lotuspsychje: thanks anyways, cheers.
[17:22] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: it's the intel open source site
[17:22] <OerHeks> Dustin you need to add that key, from intel driver i956-va > https://download.01.org/gfx/ubuntu/13.04/main/dists/Ubuntu/13.04/binary-i386/Packages but i do not know how
[17:23] <bigroomsmallhous> why would you use portage
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> daftkins: ah ic tnx
[17:24] <bigroomsmallhous> just joking you dont need to answer that ;)
[17:29] <linux_is_my_hero> i cannot get my brother MFC drivers to install on ubuntu because there is an error satisfying dependancies :-(
[17:29] <simogiovi> !ciao
[17:29] <simogiovi> lista
[17:30] <Kenjin> Hello
[17:30] <TheLordOfTime> how do i flush the DNS cacher in ubuntu (if any)
[17:30] <linux_is_my_hero> hello :-)
[17:30] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: can you use a pastebin site to share the error?
[17:30] <mbnoimi> jrib: I tried to add a new task to cron but it didn't run it
[17:30] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: coming right up :-)
[17:31] <mbnoimi> jrib: I'm using KDE Task Scheduler
[17:32] <mbnoimi> jrib: here is task properties: http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3526/lyxi.jpg
[17:32] <n0sf3rathus> hello,I'm trying to make an ubuntu based distribution, i need some information about the process of build the repository, excuse my english
[17:33] <rhn_mk1> how to make grub menu show up at boot?
[17:33] <SolarisBoy> TheLordOfTime: depends on the caching method, or even where you think your seeing the cache at (it may just be an application cache like a browser).
[17:33] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/nTFXzR1U
[17:33] <wilee-nilee> rhn_mk1, tap the shift key
[17:33] <OerHeks> rhn_mk1, hold shift @ boot
[17:34] <rhn_mk1> thanksk
[17:34] <rhn_mk1> *thanks
[17:34] <TheLordOfTime> SolarisBoy:  whatever it is in a default 12.04 install that listens on port 53 on localhost IPs.
[17:34] <wilee-nilee> n0sf3rathus, You wll have to remove any reference to ubuntu in your build, and this is the wrong place for your endeavors.
[17:34] <SolarisBoy> TheLordOfTime: i believe that network manager of late started pulling in dnsmasq as a local caching server (not sure what release that happened in) -
[17:35] <TheLordOfTime> SolarisBoy:  then how do i flush dnsmasq
[17:35] <SolarisBoy> TheLordOfTime: restart that service if you have an init script - if you don't restarting network manager should do it - but be a little extreme.
[17:35] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: can you pastebin "ls /boot" please?
[17:35] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: oh also "df -h" in the same one if you can
[17:35] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: sure :-)
[17:36] <TheLordOfTime> SolarisBoy:  yeah, restarting network-manager in the middle of an rsync to a remote server
[17:36] <TheLordOfTime> yeahno
[17:36] <SolarisBoy> ? maybe you should think of using the --partial option =)
[17:37] <SolarisBoy> but otherwise - i guess your keeping your cache then.
[17:37] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/dVjjFLNZ
[17:37] <SolarisBoy> unless of course you can restart dnsmasq seperately (which you should be able to) i believe you have the dnsmasq package installed normally
[17:38] <kodiak99> Has anyone else had trouble with 13.04 not recognizing your password for authentication?
[17:39] <n0sf3rathus> Thanks <wilee-nilee>, you can indicate me a channel ?
[17:39] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: authentication? be more precise please?
[17:39] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: from your install log i could see it ran out of space on /boot "gzip: stdout: No space left on device" so you can see there are lots of older kernels installed that you can free up some space with, can you run "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.8.0-19-generic linux-image-3.8.0-21-generic linux-image-3.8.0-22-generic linux-image-3.8.0-23-generic" to remove the old, or does it error?
[17:40] <linux_is_my_hero> i will try those commands and pastebin the results
[17:41] <OerHeks> kodiak99, you return to login again ? might be an old upgrade bug, wrong owner .Xauthority >> http://askubuntu.com/questions/189399/cannot-get-past-login-screen
[17:41] <kodiak99> whenever I try to install a deb or program from the software center, it refuses to accept my correctly typed password.
[17:41] <wilee-nilee> n0sf3rathus, Not really there is no channel for that, that I know of.
[17:41] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: is it a clean install or an upgrade?
[17:42] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: when ubuntu does an update, do I have to manually remove old outdated files from the terminal?
[17:42] <kodiak99> when i go into the passwords program to see what my password is it shows some random 128+ character password.
 ,  ok, thanks any way.
[17:42] <kodiak99> it is a clean install
[17:42] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: terminal still working...
[17:43] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: no, it's only with kernels really when a new version gets put on it leaves all the old ones there. over time it fills up. on my server installs i tend to reboot into the new ones and then remove the old (to confirm the new one boots correctly)
[17:43] <rhn_mk1> okay... how to make grub menu always show up? hard to hit the right moment
[17:43] <xee> i have a problem and that is i have xubuntu 13.10 but the problem is that i can't hear to audio.. i think audio drivers are missing can anybody tell me hoe to install them?
[17:43] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/PH8fJSY3
[17:43] <reisio> rhn_mk1: to hold shift, you mean?
[17:44] <DJones> !13.10 | xee
[17:44] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: sounds like you really know your stuff
[17:44] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: in terminal, do any sudo command work? try "sudo -i && whoami" and tell me what it says
[17:44] <rhn_mk1> reisio: yup, the time window is too short
[17:44] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: setting in the grub config, from memory I think it's hiddenmenu - but you'll need to check that
[17:44] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: also set the timeout to a value you want in the grub config, eg: timeout=25
[17:44] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: naaah just a tiny bit of CLI management :)
[17:44] <daftykins> rhn_mk1: edit /etc/default/grub to add a timeout
[17:44] <reisio> 25 your grandmammy could handle
[17:44] <reisio> 5 should suffice
[17:44] <rhn_mk1> will try, thanks
[17:44] <xee> ok i have the latest version of xubuntu but i don't have drivers for audio
[17:45] <xee> but my microphone i working
[17:45] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: you'll have to rebuild the config once you've updated /etc/default/grub - that is not the file config file, that's the recipe for the config file
[17:45] <xee> is*
[17:45] <rhn_mk1> ikonia: yeah, that's why I weas asking. thought maybe some program will do it with 1 click for me
[17:45] <kodiak99> it identifies me and asks for my password.
[17:45] <SARC> I am having some trouble with /etc/sysctl.conf.  I have uncommented the like with kernel.printk and rebooted... still receiving kernel messages.  I also changed the levels to all zeroes (kernel.printk 0 0 0 0) and rebooted... still receiving kernel messages.  Am I missing a step?
[17:45] <ikonia> rhn_mk1: no, it's a text file, just update the receipe then rebuild the config file from that
[17:46] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: exactly, does your password work there? and after it worked, what is the output of the "whoami" command?
[17:46] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: if it's busily removing those kernels fine, you can run "sudo apt-get -f install" afterwards
[17:46] <kodiak99> it doesn't take my password there either.
[17:46] <xee> hi, i have xubuntu latest version installed but i cant listen to songs i think audio drivers are missing.. but my microphone is working
[17:47] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: then the user you are using does not have sudo rights
[17:47] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: or admin rights...
[17:47] <kodiak99> ok then what changed
[17:47] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: this is what it did when i removed the old stuff http://pastebin.com/PH8fJSY3
[17:47] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: ill PM you
[17:47] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: running the new commands now
[17:47] <kodiak99> this all started 1 or 2 updates ago (a few days ago)
[17:48] <svendarm> so how do i set keyboard to swedish with setxkbmap*btw im freon on my linyx vm(
[17:48] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: did you get my PM
[17:48] <DJones> xee: Please double check, you said you were using Ubuntu 13.10 which is a development version and is supported in #ubuntu+1
[17:49] <ikonia> zero2XIII: why do you need to pm him - just tell him in the channel
[17:49] <oblio> halo
[17:49] <zero2XIII> ikonia: to much copy paste? do not want to flood the channel>
[17:49] <zero2XIII> ?
[17:49] <ikonia> zero2XIII: then use a pastebin
[17:49] <bean__> zero2XIII: then use a pastebin
[17:49] <bean__> ha
[17:49] <ikonia> !pastebin | zero2XIII and give the url to the channel
[17:50] <oblio> i just installed ubuntu on a system which has a radeon hd 6xxx and a radeon hd 5xxx that i've traditionally done dualhead on. it's painfully slow, when i use the 5xxx screen my cpu load shoots up. if i only run on the 6xxx screen it's fine. i was previously running debian and this wasnt the case.
[17:50] <zero2XIII> Okay I will do that, ikonia, bean__
[17:51] <kodiak99> why would I suddenly not have admin rights?  I am the only user on this computer.
[17:52] <ikonia> kodiak99: normally a user error/you've made a mistake
[17:52] <kodiak99> ok
[17:52] <reisio> kodiak99: why would you suddenly think you haven't
[17:52] <ikonia> kodiak99: or you've upgraded your distro and the swap from admin group to wheel group did not work
[17:52] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: I am not sure.. please do: "cat /etc/group" and pastebin it and paste link here
[17:52] <ikonia> don't bother catting /etc/group
[17:52] <ikonia> open a terminal, type "id"
[17:52] <ikonia> show the channel that one line
[17:53] <svendarm> can someone please explain to me how to use setxkbmap_
[17:53] <kodiak99> I don't understand what that means.
[17:53] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: here is the new result http://pastebin.com/CZkbk9Xn
[17:54] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: ok, another one to run after removing old kernels to save a bit more disk space is 'sudo apt-get autoremove' so you can run that to get rid of the kernel header packages from the no-longer installed ones
[17:55] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: then after that i'd run 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' to be sure everything's fully up to date, then you can go back to trying that Brother install
[17:55] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: okay :-)
[17:56] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: simply hit "ctrl+alt+t" and then a terminal should open up and then type "id" and press enter
[17:57] <mrguser> mrmguser
[17:57] <kodiak99> no I meant the pastebin thing.  but I just kinda figured it out ant created a pastebin account.  now what?
[17:58] <daftykins> kodiak99: you don't need an account to paste. http://paste.ubuntu.com
[17:58] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: no need if you just copy paste the output generated by running id in terminal... pastebin is used for multi line outputs
[17:59] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: the output should look like this: uid=1000(zeroburn) gid=1000(zeroburn) groups=1000(zeroburn),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),29(audio),30(dip),46(plugdev),109(lpadmin),113(netdev),124(sambashare)
[17:59] <kodiak99> ok I just pasted the output of id
[18:00] <ikonia> kodiak99: ok, so you are in the sudo group - looks good
[18:00] <ikonia> kodiak99: so why do you think you don't have admin capabilities ?
[18:00] <zero2XIII> ikonia: that is my output
[18:00] <ikonia> oops sorry
[18:00] <kodiak99> because it won't accept my password for authentication
[18:00] <ikonia> kodiak99: paste the line from your machine
[18:01] <zero2XIII> ikonia: lol no worries.. You help him, its confusing if more then one tries
[18:01] <kodiak99> ok so who am i talking to now?
[18:02] <zero2XIII> kodiak99: to inkonia
[18:02] <ikonia> kodiak99: just put the line in the channel so all can see
[18:02] <wornwinter> Hey, just installed Ubuntu, and have a slight problem. I'm unable to get my m-audio projectmix to work. Already tried building ffado from source with no luck. Anyone ever got this card working?
[18:02] <kodiak99> my ID line?
[18:02] <ikonia> kodiak99: come on , I've asked multiple times now
[18:02] <ikonia> the one line from the output of the command "id"
[18:02] <kodiak99> andrew@andrew-VPCCW21FX:~$ id uid=1000(andrew) gid=1000(andrew) groups=1000(andrew),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),108(lpadmin),117(nopasswdlogin),124(sambashare) andrew@andrew-VPCCW21FX:~$
[18:03] <ikonia> this doesn't look like an ubuntu machine
[18:03] <ikonia> kodiak99: please show me the output of the command uname -a
[18:03] <zero2XIII> wornwinter: what are you trying to use it for?
[18:04] <kodiak99> -a: command not found
[18:04] <ikonia> kodiak99: uname -a
[18:04] <ikonia> kodiak99: PLEASE read what you are being told to do
[18:04] <wornwinter> zero2XIII: I just want stereo audio output from it. Just have linux for programming/tinkering.
[18:04] <kodiak99> Linux andrew-VPCCW21FX 3.8.0-25-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 20:47:07 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:04] <wornwinter> Just for some music or something while I work
[18:05] <ikonia> kodiak99: ok, that's great, now please type "sudo apt-get update" does that command work or give you errors ?
[18:05] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: I got libs-32ia to install.  unfortunately, now the brother drivers are still having trouble: http://pastebin.com/vLzKtwkq
[18:06] <kodiak99> andrew@andrew-VPCCW21FX:~$ sudo apt-get update [sudo] password for andrew:  Sorry, try again. [sudo] password for andrew:  Sorry, try again. [sudo] password for andrew:
[18:06] <zero2XIII> wornwinter: I have the m-audio profire 610 and it doesnt work with linux...
[18:06] <zero2XIII> wornwinter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FireWire
[18:06] <kodiak99> won't take my password
[18:06] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: i'm guessing from the code that the LPR driver file left over from last time is still there and its trying to overwrite it, but I don't know what "unknown job: lpd" means
[18:06] <ikonia> kodiak99: what do you mean, won't take your password
[18:06] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: hrmm not so sure on whether that's an issue i'm afraid. are you sure that's the best approach to set up that model printer with Ubuntu?
[18:06] <freon> what can i do with ubuntu to teach myself about linux?
[18:06] <ikonia> freon: anything you want,
[18:06] <wornwinter> zero2XIII: It sucks pretty bad. First piece of hardware I've had that linux doesn't seem to support.
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> Wornwinter: what is the output of :    wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[18:07] <kodiak99> I correctly type the only password that I have ever used on this system and it won't accept it
[18:07] <zero2XIII> wornwinter: is your device shown in alsa mixer? There is a tromendous work around.. But it really is a huge task
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> Freon: how did you learn to use Windows?
[18:07] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: I'm not sure if that is the best way.  I'm just using the manufacturer's instructions as a baseline, but I am open to other routes :-)
[18:07] <nnnniiihjiuhui> first time on irc!!!
[18:07] <wornwinter> zero2XIII: It isn't no.
[18:07] <wornwinter> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=9f50e640f309df6a400499bd61885d521b435907
[18:07] <wornwinter> that was the output btw
[18:08] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: ah - do you have a link to that guide?
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99: you don't get feedback but the password is being typed
[18:08] <ikonia> kodiak99 do you need a password to login to the system, or does it do automatic login
[18:08] <linux_is_my_hero> sure, here it is http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_prn1a.html
[18:08] <kodiak99> automatic login
[18:08] <ikonia> kodiak99 your password is wrong then
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99: you still have a password even if you autologin
[18:09] <zero2XIII> wornwinter: have a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation
[18:09] <kodiak99> my password is one press of the spacebar.  it's hard to type incorrectly.
[18:09] <ikonia> kodiak99: no, it's not
[18:10] <ikonia> kodiak99: that password is wrong
[18:10] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: did you do the 'pre-required procedure (3)' bits where it's creating symbolic links with "ln -s /etc/init.d/cups /etc/init.d/lpd" ?
[18:10] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: no :-D
[18:10] <svendarm> ikonia(im freon btw): yes but i want to learn the kernel. i have downloaded the source code but i would like to get my hands dirty programmign something. is there much conceptual difference programming linux as opposed to programming windows?
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> Wornwinter : if you run : alsamixer , is the right device selected for output? Also check in the sound application in Dash and do the same.  You will need F6 in alsamixer
[18:10] <ikonia> svendarm: what languages do you program in ?
[18:10] <kodiak99> i agree, but the question is what changed my password to a random string of 100+ characters
[18:11] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: "failed to create symbolic link...file exists" what does that mean?
[18:11] <ikonia> kodiak99 who said it changed to a random string of 100 chars ?
[18:11] <wornwinter> zero2XIII: I've already seen that, I ended up having to download and build ffado from source, just to see if I could get some support, but it couldn't see the card. (It's firewire)
[18:11] <svendarm> ikonia: C, Python, Haskell, Java, and more
[18:11] <wornwinter> I think I may have been defeated here lol
[18:11] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: that it's trying to link one to another but both already exist
[18:11] <kodiak99> the passwords program in the system settings menu
[18:11] <ikonia> svendarm: best thing to do is go to launchpad.net find a bug - see if you can fix it, it will move from then
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99 : that doesn't happen.  I suggest you reboot to root recovery console and set a half decent password
[18:11] <ikonia> kodiak99: the password program doesn't show you your password
[18:12] <zero2XIII> wornwinter: where did it first fail?
[18:12] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: run it again but instead of -s use -fs
[18:12] <kodiak99> mine does or I am describing the program wrong
[18:12] <ikonia> kodiak99: you're password program does not show you the password
[18:12] <ikonia> kodiak99: I suggest you reset your password and your problem will go away
[18:12] <nnnniiihjiuhui> is anyone seeing this??? first time on irc.
[18:12] <wornwinter> zero2XIII: ffado runs fine, just doesn't detect the card once it starts discovering. The projectmix itself is okay, works in windows. It's defo a compatibility problem.
[18:12] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: people can see
[18:13] <daftykins> nnnniiihjiuhui: yes hi.
[18:13] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: i ran it with -fs and it said permission denied so i repeated it with "sudo" and nothing came out.  what does that mean?
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> Wornwinter : also try: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse* , wait ten seconds and reboot
[18:13] <reisio> daftykins is a good nick
[18:13] <kodiak99> i have done that too, but it still doesn't take my new password and when I reboot it shows that random sting again
[18:13] <zero2XIII> wornwinter: it seems it is not supported: http://ffado.org/?q=devicesupport%2Flist&filter0=M-audio&filter1=&op2=OR
[18:13]  * MAITY slaps zwiep` around a bit with a large E63-1
[18:13] <bigroomsmallhous> nnniiiiii seeing what
[18:13] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: that means it worked perfectly. you can re-run the dpkg -i on the .deb now
[18:13] <reisio> ActionParsnip: what's the waiting for? :D
[18:13] <nnnniiihjiuhui> no private messages??
[18:13] <ikonia> MAITY: please don't do that
[18:14] <kodiak99> string
[18:14] <MAITY> ok
[18:14] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: we can see what you are typing
[18:14] <wornwinter> zero2XIII: Yeah I saw, was just hoping someone had worked out some sort of hacky workaround.
[18:14] <daftykins> reisio: are you being sincere? :P
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99 : try: gksudo apt-get update
[18:14] <reisio> daftykins: yup
[18:14] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: same error :-( "unknown job:ldp"
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> Reisio: lets pulseaudio restart automatically and regenerate the default configs
[18:15] <reisio> that's creepy
[18:15] <zero2XIII> Seems unlikely.. If the BASE software does not support it, it is unlikely it will work with a hackaround :(... But I see mine is now "reported to work"... its been a few months since I last checked... maybe you will be lucky
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> Reisio: what is creepy?
[18:15] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: is it network or USB attached?
[18:16] <reisio> ActionParsnip: daemons
[18:16] <zero2XIII> wornwinter: but I am envious.. I wanted that interface, but the shop I buy from couldn't get it for like 3 months and i really needed to mix a 5.1 channel show.. so I got the 610
[18:16] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: USB attached
[18:16] <xwix> slt
 it won't take my password to perform that action
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Reisio : the service is told to automatically restart if it dies. The command to kill the process is needed to unlock the files. When it restarts (like most Linux apps) if no configuration is there then defaults are instated
[18:18] <reisio> ActionParsnip: like a daemon? :p
[18:18] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: i found a possibly helpful link http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=95462
[18:18] <wornwinter> zero2XIII: It's a fantastic interface, paid a small fortune for it a year or two ago! I'll check out the 610, haven't heard of it before.
[18:18] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: cool :-)
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99 : I would reset your password using root recovery
[18:19] <kodiak99> ok how do I do that?
[18:19] <wornwinter> zero2XIII: What sort of audio work do you do?
[18:19] <nnnniiihjiuhui> #
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> kodiak99, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99 : hold SHIFT at boot and select recovery mode then root. Once you get the prompt, run: passwd foo; reboot
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99 : eg: passwd dave; reboot
[18:21] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99 : having space as a password will make things awkward.  Why such a dumb password?
[18:21] <Takagami> ActionParsnip: And that is exactly why I have a BIOS password and Do not allow anything other than HDD to boot....
[18:22] <kodiak99> because i didn't wnat a password to begin with, but I have not found a way to dod taht.
[18:22] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: I'm having trouble with the command "aa-complain," do you know anything about it?
[18:22] <kodiak99> want that
[18:22] <ActionParsnip>  Takagami: remove cmos battery and password goes bye bye
[18:22] <jmagunduni> guys i am using Ubuntu 13.10 , i have a problem with network manager applet. It disappear  sometimes . please help :-(
[18:22] <linux_is_my_hero> ubuntu+1
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99 : once the OS is setup you don't need it much at all.
[18:23] <jmagunduni> sorry 13.04
[18:23] <Takagami> Yeah... kinda hard to do on most laptops though... ;-)
[18:23] <daftykins> linux_is_my_hero: never heard of it i'm afraid
[18:23] <nnnniiihjiuhui> ikonia:
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Takagami: depends on ability
[18:23] <linux_is_my_hero> daftykins: yeah, i may just take this thing back and get the HP instead.
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> Jmagunduni: what is the output of : uname -a
[18:24] <Takagami> ActionParsnip: Indeed...
[18:24] <kodiak99> I wish I knew how to make it not use passwords, but it always asks me for authentication whenever I want to do something it considers major.
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> kodiak99  that's called "security"
[18:24] <nnnniiihjiuhui> ikonia: did you get the beep
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> Kodiak99 : yes its called security.  Remember the target audience of your OS
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> kodiak99, The password and a good one are part of the safety of using linux, get used to it. ;)
[18:25] <nnnniiihjiuhui> best irc for ubuntu??
[18:26] <kodiak99> well I'll give this a try.  thanks for your help everyone.
[18:26] <DJones> !best | nnnniiihjiuhui
[18:26] <daftykins> nnnniiihjiuhui: there is no best, just what works for you
[18:26] <DJones> !irc | nnnniiihjiuhui
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Nnniihjiuhui: your question is as intelligent as asking "what is the best colour of the rainbow"
[18:27] <jmagunduni> ActionParsnip:Linux joshua-HP-Pavilion-g6-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 16 15:17:14 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[18:27] <syntroPi> how can i  use the acount-plugins from the online accounts? its totaly empty??
[18:27] <openfire> :D
[18:27] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: get a beep ?
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Nnniihjiuhui : if there was a 'best' the others would cease to be as nobody would use the others.  Think about it
[18:28] <nnnniiihjiuhui> i'm trying empathy.
[18:28] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: this channel is for ubuntu support - if you need help with something just ask the channel
[18:29] <syntroPi> yeah exactly with empathy: i cant enter any account information in online accounts the dialogue is empty??
[18:30] <syntroPi> is there a config file somewhere for the online accounts from ubuntu?
[18:30] <syntroPi> the gui is broken
[18:30] <nnnniiihjiuhui> how do you address users here..i'm on webchat.freenode.net.
[18:30] <syntroPi> just include exact name string in your message
[18:30] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: you just say their name
[18:30] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: eg: as I am doing to you
[18:31] <nnnniiihjiuhui> ikonia: that is what i asked. "did you get beep".
[18:31] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: there is no "beep"
[18:31] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: hence why what you've said doesn't make sense
[18:32] <openfire> :D
[18:32] <svendarm> wow, how long does eclipse take to install?
[18:32] <syntroPi> nnnniiihjiuhui, i like to use xchat2 for irc on ubuntu, but thats my preference only
[18:32] <ikonia> svendarm sepends on many things
[18:32] <nnnniiihjiuhui> ikonia: well, I get beep.
[18:32] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: "great"
[18:34] <nnnniiihjiuhui> ikonia: which is your client
[18:34] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: it doesn't matter what I use
[18:34] <svendarm> what dies "[2] 18780" mean in response to starting eclipse like so "eclipse &"
[18:35] <nnnniiihjiuhui> anybody using empathy irc here?
[18:35] <ikonia> nnnniiihjiuhui: why don't you just ask the question you want fixing
[18:35] <ikonia> svendarm that's just the process id
[18:35] <openfire> m using mirggi
[18:36] <openfire> :|
[18:36] <svendarm> hmm so slow, maybe 1GB of memory is to little for eclipse these days?
[18:36] <TheUsD> can someone tell me what this means? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5787579/
[18:36] <ikonia> it's quite a hungry machine and the minimum requirement for ubuntu is 1GB these days too I think
[18:37] <ikonia> TheUsD: the file is not valid and we will not help you with cracked software, so please don't ask again
[18:37] <TheUsD> I don't care if its cracked or not (its not cracked btw, I use it on my windows PC and its a trial program)
[18:38] <ikonia> TheUsD: do not ask again
[18:38] <TheUsD> I'm just confused on ubuntu on what it means
[18:38] <svendarm> is it only in C the OS really matters these days? and C++. in java,python etc there are language level constructs or interfaces to threads and semaphores etc?
[18:38] <openfire> .
[18:38] <Pici> TheUsD: Contact Wing support then.
[18:38] <TheUsD> its the same steps whether I get it from the website or another place
[18:38] <DJones> TheUsD: Its name includes "cracked"
[18:39] <DJones> !piracy | TheUsD
[18:39] <syntroPi> anyone got online user accounts  in system settings working?
[18:39] <TheUsD> They do not give free support to their trial programs
[18:39] <ikonia> TheUsD: enough - drop it now please.
[18:39] <TheUsD> -_- its not pirated software/
[18:39] <ikonia> TheUsD: last warning
[18:39] <TheUsD> again, its not pirated...
[18:39] <Pici> TheUsD: There are FOSS ftp and sftp servers available in the repositories. If you want help with those will be glad to help you.
[18:40] <TheUsD> Pici: I like the wing FTP program, I use it on my windows PC. I was wanting to see how stable it is on a Linux box.
[18:40] <DJones> TheUsD: The name of the file even tells us who cracked it, please do not ask about it again
[18:40] <ikonia> TheUsD: I've just downloaded it from wing - that is not the trial version file name - so drop it now
[18:41] <TheUsD> ikonia: no you didn't or you would see that I am right.
[18:42] <nnnniiihjiuhui> i'm learning to build a gnome applet from http://www.znasibov.info/blog/html/2009/02/25/gnome_applet_with_python_part_1.html . /usr/lib/bonobo/servers is not there in ubuntu 12.04
[18:42] <TheUsD> Crude is not a real cracking crack, I use it on the windows machine, its still a 30 day trial. after that it shuts the service down every 2 hours.
[18:43] <DJones> TheUsD: Enough, we can all google the file name and see who's cracked and released it
[18:43] <TheUsD> then you should learn how to google better... -_-
[18:44] <uuser123>  hi.. After a partial upgrade, to fix which I removed the ubuntu-desktop package, ubuntu won't boot. Just shows a blank screen. Help?
[18:46] <wilee-nilee> uuser123, That is a bit of a confusing description.
[18:47] <Dustin> New install of ubuntu 13.04, can't hear any sound on Skype at all and cannot capture my voice. Sound is working everywhere else though, same with voice being captured, any help is appreciated
[18:47] <reisio> uuser123: partial upgrade no good
[18:47] <uuser123> wilee-nilee: I am booting in using a livecd, if you need anything please ask
[18:48] <uuser123> to identify the issue
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> reisio, Heh, sounds like a cave man response, but quite accurate. ;)
[18:48] <Schroeder> Hello.
[18:48] <Schroeder> You should really be usng Slackware.
[18:48] <DJones> Schroeder: Please don't troll
[18:48] <Schroeder> DJones: please don't make pointless requests to not do something that was never done.
[18:49] <DJones> Schroeder: This is Ubuntu support, please stay on topic
[18:49] <bazhang> Schroeder, thats enough
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> uuser123, I need nothing, the channel needs a accurate description, with details.
[18:49] <openfire> :D
[18:50] <Steveyray> Hi, can someone tell me what this error means? http://paste.ubuntu.com/5787623/
[18:51] <daftykins> and then it was that the OPS WOKE UP
[18:51] <uuser123> okay. I had some issues with updates, so I tried a partial upgrade. that wasnt working and on a launchpad page i read to remove the ubuntu-desktop package. The upgrade worked and told me to reboot the system, and I did. once the computer starts and post grub, it goes into a black screen and stops responding
[18:53] <nn> the folder /usr/lib/bonobo/servers mentioned in http://goo.gl/lJQ1C does not exist in ubuntu 12.04. is there any equivalent folder?
[18:55] <svendarm> int pthread_create(pthread_t *thread, const pthread_attr_t *attr,
[18:55] <svendarm>                    void *(*start_routine) (void *), void *arg);
[18:55] <svendarm> unsure about that void *(*start_routine)
[18:55] <svendarm> is that a double pointer?
[18:56] <reisio> svendarm: #friendly-coders
[18:57] <ampoz> Hi, I've done a fresh ubuntu server 12.04 install and used 200GB of my 512GB for the automatic/guided LVM setup. I'd like to create a second volume group from the free space left over. I assume I have to create a primary partition from the free space and then make a new volume group out of it? I've google'd but tbh I'm having trouble finding proper info on how to do this (i'm sure there's a
[18:57] <ampoz> tutorial somewhere, but I just can't seem to find atm). Could anyone point me in the right direction? thanks!
[18:58] <bobbyd_> svendarm, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1352426/why-does-start-routine-for-pthread-create-return-void-and-take-void
[18:58] <aamer> hello room
[18:59] <reisio> ampoz: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lvm
[19:03] <aamer> I'm using grsync, why does it insist on creating a directory inside the destination directory and put files in there?
[19:03] <nr_> any idea how to setup irc on empathy?
[19:06] <mike_> Hi
[19:06] <Guest21203> There is some quistion
[19:07] <Guest21203> blue tooth is not working  on ubuntu 13.04
[19:07] <Magicarp> I'm having issues with the log in screen. I can't log out and switch my DE. If I switch my tty how can I start gnome classic (only other DE I have installed)?
[19:08] <svendarm> if i declare a local var v in a function then return its address, isnt thta dangerous since it will be invalid outside the function?
[19:09] <nrthedreamer> this place is nice
[19:09] <Guest21203> please someone answer me why bluetooth is not working on ubuntu 13.04
[19:09] <erek> how do i install the "deb" command?
[19:10] <erek> ppa:sunab is suggesting i use deb in ubuntu
[19:10] <erek> for kdenlive
[19:10] <nrthedreamer> erek:
[19:10] <wilee-nilee> Magicarp, What do you see if you logout?
[19:11] <debian-n00b> erek: deb is just a file extention use dpkg
[19:11] <erek> dpkg doesn't seem to work how he shows it
[19:11] <erek> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/sunab/kdenlive-release/ubuntu raring main
[19:12] <erek> i replace deb with a dpkg equivalent and it doesn't work
[19:12] <erek> dpkg -i http://ppa.launchpad.net/sunab/kdenlive-release/ubuntu raring main
[19:12] <erek>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[19:12] <Guest21203> please is there someone knows how to solve the bluetooth problem in ubuntu ? please show me how ..
[19:12] <erek> etc
[19:12] <syntroPi> erek add that one in software sources
[19:12] <bobbyd_> Guest21203, what are you trying to connect?
[19:13] <syntroPi> its the repo address
[19:13] <debian-n00b> yeah it's a repo address
[19:13] <leoquant> how to disable avahi-daemon on ubuntu 13.04?
[19:13] <syntroPi> and deb is correct
[19:13] <erek> so, apt-add-repository  http://ppa.launchpad.net/sunab/kdenlive-release/ubuntu raring main
[19:13] <erek> ???
[19:13] <debian-n00b> you need to add it to your repo list
[19:13] <syntroPi> do you have that software sources gui ?
[19:14] <Guest21203> Mobile
[19:14] <isank> hi guys
[19:14] <bazhang> erek, this still natty?
[19:14] <isank> need some serious help urgently
[19:14] <erek> bazhang: raring now
[19:14] <isank> could u guys please help me
[19:14] <bazhang> !addppa | erek
[19:14] <wilee-nilee> !help | isank
[19:15] <isank> hi wilee
[19:15] <syntroPi> erek that software and updates dialogue gui: goto other software then add it "deb .... blah blubb"
[19:15] <DJones> erek: If you read https://launchpad.net/~sunab/+archive/kdenlive-release that tells you how to correctly add the ppa to your repositories
[19:15] <oblio> !addppa oblio
[19:15] <debian-n00b> erek: add  it to /etc/apt/source.list
[19:15] <oblio> how come my system doesnt have add-apt-repository?
[19:15] <syntroPi> apt-add
[19:16] <erek> for some reason i can't see Bezier Curves in kdenlive effect list
[19:16] <foobArrr> problem with 12.04 and disk encryption: I just installed 12.04, the (alternate) installer froze for several minutes after asking for the luks passphrase, but afterwards installation went normal. now the installed system also freezes at boot for about 40 seconds after the luks passphrase prompt. any ideas? ( you can see the delay in bootchart, cryptsetup seems to use one cpu core from second 15 to 55: http://s3.imgimg.de/uploads/itxprecise201306211425e0
[19:16] <foobArrr> 734png.png )
[19:16] <Global_Radio> would anyone be able to let me know how to install this??; i read the README and INSTALL files but they give no clue on what file(s) to download
[19:17] <Global_Radio> https://github.com/zhum/simpleweather-screensaver
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> !details > Global_Radio
[19:17] <isank> i want to install or atleast try ubuntu or xubuntu on my sony vaio laptop but i am not able to do so because i get a blank blinking screen
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset > isank
[19:17] <reisio> isank: alt install image
[19:18] <Global_Radio> wilee-nilee, the file is (supposed to be) here --> https://github.com/zhum/simpleweather-screensaver
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> the alt is a netload now is all.
[19:18] <bazhang> reisio, no more alt
[19:18] <minimec> isank: Sony vayos are 'very special'
[19:18] <syntroPi> Global_Radio, try something like "make" then "sudo checkinstall"
[19:18] <syntroPi> also make sure you have all dependencies
[19:19] <isank> sorry wilee but the nomodest thing is not working and only thing i get is a simple command prompt instead of try or install
[19:19] <Global_Radio> syntroPi, what file do I download from that page, though>
[19:19] <Global_Radio> ?
[19:19] <syntroPi> Global_Radio, all of them
[19:19] <minimec> y experience was, that the better once are very tuned. They are bleeding fast, but difficutlt with linux.
[19:19] <minimec> isank: Do you have a dual GPU intel/ATI Intel/Nvidia?
[19:20] <syntroPi> Global_Radio, use git or click at ZIP
[19:20] <reisio> bazhang: really? ew
[19:21] <syntroPi> Global_Radio, not sure if you can have that on raring: Requirements: gtk+-2.0 dbus-glib-1 dbus-1 glib-2.0, cairo.
[19:21] <isank> @minimec : amd radeon is my graphics card
[19:21] <Global_Radio> syntroPi, what is raring?
[19:21] <syntroPi> Global_Radio, the -dev packages are the ones you need to compile that
[19:21] <jordan4ibanez> For 13.10, can fdutils be added? And can the normal user be added to the floppy group?
[19:21] <jordan4ibanez> This is how to get floppy drives working in ubuntu.
[19:21] <jordan4ibanez> Without this, using dosbox is a nightmare.
[19:22] <Global_Radio> syntroPi, what does that mean? I can't install that screensaver?
[19:22] <DJones> jordan4ibanez: Probably best if you ask that in #ubuntu+1 Thats the support channel for 13.10 until its released in October
[19:22] <jordan4ibanez> Actually, without this, using floppy drives in general is a horrific nightmare.
[19:22] <wjoosh> jordan4ibanez: Why do you need DOSBox? Doesn't wine work?
[19:22] <isank> minimec
[19:22] <minimec> isank: And what Processor? And... Do you haveone or two harddrives?
[19:22] <jordan4ibanez> Because I play dos games. And I put data on my special floppy disks.
[19:23] <isank> core i5 3210M single harddrive 750 gb
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> i use dosbox for old games
[19:23] <wjoosh> jordan4ibanez: I find dos games - really old ones - they work fine with WINE. If you have floppy disks, sure, that's a different thing
[19:23] <Guest2349> hi, i just installed raring on a computer. it works fine, and can get onto the internet and I can ssh to it via its IP. the problem is i can't ping it or ssh to it via its hostname ("Water"). i.e `ping water` gives unknown host, but `192.168.1.4` works as expected. running `ping water` on the box itself works as expected. any ideas?
[19:23] <syntroPi> Global_Radio, raring is the name of latest ubuntu release. idk you have to try to compile that. checkinstall will not just drop that files somewhere on your hdd but make a lil installation .deb file and install through your software manager so you easily can remove it later. it also takes care about the dependencies if you answer ithe questions right when it builds the .deb
[19:23] <jordan4ibanez> No, I run windows 3.1
[19:23] <minimec> isank: Ok. So normally, the Ubuntu Live OS should use the integrated intel GPU as default.
[19:24] <saiarcot895> Guest2349: is its name being registered in DNS anywhere?
[19:24] <X-Sleepy-X> Guest2349: have you tried ping water.local ?
[19:24] <vith> Guest2349: i think that depends on your router
[19:24] <jordan4ibanez> It's not about what can run them, it's about the ability of finding the data on the hard disk.
[19:24] <Rubino123> my gensys sd internal card reader is not reading, any ideas on a fix?
[19:24] <minimec> isank: You say, that you can boot the system, but you don't get the graphical environment... right?
[19:24] <jordan4ibanez> Erm, transfering from floppy to hard disk.
[19:24] <Rubino123> lsusb output: Bus 002 Device 004: ID 05e3:0727 Genesys Logic, Inc. microSD Reader/Writer
[19:25] <isank> no not actually i just get a simple command prompt and nothing else
[19:25] <Guest2349> X-Sleepy-X: pinging water.local doesn't change anything
[19:25] <isank> i can't call it that my system boots
[19:25] <wjoosh> jordan4ibanez: you have an old game, that runs in windows 3.11, and it saves to floppy disk? and you want to know how to get this workig in linux?
[19:25] <syntroPi> Global_Radio, i think ubuntu 13.04 uses gtk 3 not  gtk+-2.0
[19:25] <X-Sleepy-X> Guest2349: have you added 192.168.1.4 to the hosts file?
[19:25] <Guest2349> vith: i don't see what my router would have anything to do with it. i have other boxes on this network and i can ping/ssh to them by their hostname
[19:26] <Rubino123> when I open the "Computer" file explorer it says C:// not available operation not supported
[19:26] <Rubino123> Any ideas
[19:26] <isank> i don't see the desktop , nothing no terminal just a simple command prompt spread all  over the screen
[19:26] <jordan4ibanez> No, I already did, I am asking if the things that are required to do it can be added to 13.10, so users like me don't struggle with playing classic games on linux.
[19:26] <Rubino123> Google says my problem does not exist
[19:26] <jordan4ibanez> It opens up a world of gaming.
[19:26] <Guest2349> X-Sleepy-X: no, but i don't want to manually override it. i don't see why this shouldn't work (i.e configure itself)
[19:26] <vith> Guest2349: your router would need to be serving dns to the second computer and resolving the hostname
[19:26] <Rubino123> Sd card problem was fixed temporarily but I was too tired to remember what worked
[19:26] <wjoosh> jordan4ibanez: may i ask for an example of one of the game names?
[19:26] <isank> do you want me to tell the whole condition to you from start to end
[19:27] <minimec> isank: Ok. can you tell me exactly, what you are doing. You start the computer and choose the CD Device or USB stick as boot device right?
[19:27] <isank> yup exactly i do so
[19:27] <jordan4ibanez> Train Engineer, Jetpack, Galactix.
[19:27] <wjoosh> isank: which one? cd or usb? please be specific
[19:27] <jordan4ibanez> I actually have dos running on my machine, but sometimes I like to multitask.
[19:27] <minimec> isank: After that you choose your keyboard and you 'Try Ubuntu'...
[19:27] <DJones> jordan4ibanez: As I said earlier, probably best if you ask it in #ubuntu+1 Another option would be to file it as a bug/wishlist request
[19:28] <jordan4ibanez> I already did.
[19:28] <Guest2349> vith: why would it do so for the other boxes on my network but not this one?
[19:28] <syntroPi> minimec, isnt that dialogue hidden behind "f2" on bootup
[19:28] <isank> no i get a grub menu where i choose try ubuntu widout installing
[19:28] <Dustin> New install of ubuntu 13.04, can't hear any sound on Skype at all and cannot capture my voice. Sound is working everywhere else though, same with voice being captured, any help is appreciated
[19:29] <isank> i donot get any menu to choose keyboard or anything
[19:29] <wjoosh> jordan4ibanez: I have not heard of the other two. I do not remember Galactix having a save function
[19:29] <vith> Guest2349: could be something like windows networking keeping its own list of host->ip mappings
[19:29] <Guest2349> saiarcot895: i'm not sure what you mean. this is on a local home network
[19:29] <syntroPi> isank, hit f2 right after your bios access your usb or cd
[19:29] <minimec> syntroPi: It's some 'F' button, right.
[19:29] <saiarcot895> Guest2349: in that case, what vith says applies
[19:29] <jordan4ibanez> wjoosh: Indeed.
[19:29] <syntroPi> minimec, F"
[19:29] <syntroPi> f2
[19:29] <isank> a very simple grub menu like the one we see when we have installed ubuntu and we see when we boot our pc and it gives us option like ubuntu , recovery etc etc
[19:30] <rawrite> flash plugin is not working for my 32bit ubuntu 12.04 . The error msg was "flash plugin has crashed". Any solutions?
[19:30] <wjoosh> jordan4ibanez: So i dont understsand why you need floppy disk to play galactix
[19:30] <jdoles> rawrite: apply to Adobe and fix it yourself.
[19:30] <jdoles> rawrite: Flash will likely just die slowly.
[19:31] <rawrite> jdoles: I already tried it, still didnt work
[19:31] <Kenjin> I'm seeing slow wifi connection with ath9k on kernel 3.9. Does 3.8 work well?
[19:31] <jdoles> rawrite: you can disable Flash and all other solutions are broken too.
[19:31] <minimec> isank: Did you create that boot device yourself? That sounds like a 'full install'. I created a stick like that fo myself.
[19:31] <isank> minimec
[19:31] <jdoles> rawrite: you applied to Adobe already?
[19:31] <Guest2349> vith: saiarcot895: how would I troubleshoot that, then? my browser's web interface shows the box in question and displays its hostname.
[19:31] <wjoosh> rawrite: google chrome has an improved, proprietary flash player. Perhaps that might help.
[19:32] <isank> yes i used universal usb installer to create a live usb
[19:32] <jdoles> wjoosh: they have their own engine?
[19:32] <rawrite> jdoles: what do you mean by apply to adobe?
[19:32] <Halleon> hello. need a little help about lirc
[19:32] <jdoles> rawrite: for a job
[19:32] <jdoles> rawrite: because they have the code.
[19:32] <wjoosh> jdoles: You mean chrome flash? it has secret sauce in it, no source code available, for playing flash. I dont know what's in it.
[19:32] <Halleon> need proper hardware. conf and lircd.conf for tv2000 xp expert
[19:33] <jdoles> wjoosh: so, chromium doesn't have that?
[19:33] <rawrite> jdoles: I downloaded flash pluggin from their web site
[19:33] <minimec> isank: A live disk should give you a menu to do some basic configuration, like keyboard settings and a menu to 'Try Ubuntu', 'direct install' and 'memory check' or so,
[19:33] <wjoosh> jdoles: No, chromium does not - only google chrome
[19:33] <jdoles> rawrite: I will say it more slowly and simple then.
[19:33] <jdoles> rawrite: there is not a chance -- ever -- of running Flash without issues on Linux.
[19:33] <rawrite> jdoles: I cant read your mind, dude
[19:34] <jdoles> I personally have no issues, but I know the performance is bad.
[19:34] <syntroPi> minimec, i always prefered to plug in a usb stick, configure virtualbox to give it to its guest, boot then from the live iso and from within that i used startup media creator to write from the live ubuntu in virtualbox on the usb stick
[19:34] <rawrite> applied to adobe could be anything, duh
[19:34] <xcaliber178> Hello. I have an issue. I was installing some things via apt-get command and i kept getting and error about linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic. So i issued "sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic" and I got this: http://pastebin.com/VAcHNxxN
[19:34] <Guest2349> vith: saiarcot895: in fact, in my router's web UI under DNS Server I can see the mapping just fine
[19:34] <isank> minimec : my computer is also UEFI and secure boot included, i have already disabled secure boot, but couldnot do the same with UEFI as windows 8 is also installed on my laptop
[19:34] <rawrite> flash is not dying for another 20 years so good luck
[19:34] <Halleon> Anyone can help me about my issue?
[19:34] <wjoosh> i've not seen a flash that google chrome linux didnt play ... ot of curiousity, can you link a flash that's givng problems?
[19:34] <nrthedreamer> any idea about building a panel applet
[19:34] <saiarcot895> Guest2349: Are you using one of the computers on your local network to serve DNS requests?
[19:34] <nrthedreamer> ?
[19:35] <Guest2349> ahhh, strange, it seems like my computer is storing an improper cache of what `water` resolves to. i tried from another computer and it worked fine.
[19:35] <Guest2349> i just i'll just restart
[19:35] <minimec> isank: So we know now, that you cannot choose your install device. You don't get these install options.
[19:35] <syntroPi> isank, ooh then it may be different didnt try that f2 thing on uefi yet
[19:36] <syntroPi> it has different bootup process
[19:36] <isank> sorry what f2 thing
[19:36] <minimec> isank: Problem is, that I have no idea of these UEFI devices. Maybe syntroPi knows more. At least he seems to have followed our discussion.
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> isank, Have you seen the UEFI wiki?
[19:37] <isank> minimec: no problem buddy atleast u tried to help me and thank u for that
[19:37] <wjoosh> isank: did you get the 64 bit installer, and disable secure boot?
[19:37] <genii> xcaliber178: Do a sudo apt-get remove linux-image-<version>   for the some of the old kernels of  <version> in /boot to free up some room
[19:37] <minimec> isank: ;)
[19:38] <isank> @wjoosh :i did that
[19:38] <syntroPi> isank, to get a dialogue at startup for some special options like "try ubuntu" "install" "test memory" "kernel parameters" and such you could press [F2] key right after the moment your pc begins to boot from your media. but with uefi it uses different bootloader so there it maybe a different thing, cant help with uefi though because i never used that
[19:38] <wjoosh> isank: Have you checked the UEFI install guide for ubuntu? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[19:39] <isank> yes checked it and did all the things according to it only but of no use
[19:40] <wjoosh> isank: May I ask the make and model of the machine?
[19:40] <xcaliber178> genii: what versions should i remove? i assume it would be bad to remove the version im currently using.
[19:40] <isank> wjoosh:sony vaio e series with core i5 3210M, amd radeon 7650M
[19:40] <X-Sleepy-X> xcaliber178: uname -r to see the current version
[19:40] <genii> xcaliber178: The usual thing is to leave your current kernel and the one just previous
[19:41] <minimec> syntroPi: Your Virtualbox way is quiet complicated... I just plug two USB sticks, And install Ubuntu from one to the other. Just use the 'advanced options' during partitioning...
[19:42] <wjoosh> isank: there is a key on the vaio you need to press to get the boot menu up. On most machines it's F2 or F8. Obviously that isnt working for you. Have you tried F11?
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> isank, THe best help on UEFI Installs is at the ubuntu forum, there is a mod on everyday that focuses on this start a thread there.
[19:43] <syntroPi> minimec, its quite quick shortcut if you have vbox already installed you wouldnt even need to reboot or close any work done while its writing the stick. also you can test it immediately with vbox and md5sum
[19:43] <nrthedreamer> anybody used download monitor?
[19:43] <xcaliber178> genii: I am running 3.2.0-41-generic. I issued the remove command for 40, 39, 38, 37, 36, 35, 34, etc, and got "Unable to locate package linux-image-<version>"
[19:44] <isank> wjoosh : this is what i get http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1347445084.png when i boot from live usb
[19:44] <isank> wilee-nilee : already did that
[19:44] <cstewart>  i believe the sony bios are f1 and f2
[19:44] <isank> but no response till now
[19:44] <wjoosh> isank: A bit small. does the first line say "try ubuntu" ?
[19:45] <X-Sleepy-X> xcaliber178: did you use tabulator to find the different versions?
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> isank, Does the header say UEFI, can you post a link?
[19:45] <folorn> okay I've got a cd but i think i had some stuff on it
[19:45] <wjoosh> I think it says "Try ubuntu without installing" but the .png is tiny
[19:45] <folorn> is there anyway to format your CDS?
[19:45] <genii> xcaliber178: Can you pastebin the results of: apt-cache policy linux-image*
[19:45] <isank> wjoosh: yes it does, 2nd says install ubuntu, 3rd says check disks for defects
[19:46] <isank> a menu of three lines only
[19:46] <syntroPi> wjoosh, on intel boards its f10
[19:46] <wilee-nilee> isank, My concern here is qualified help, I have seen only one user on this channel with those skills and they are not here.
[19:46] <wjoosh> isank: See +before+ that point is usually where it breaks! :-)
[19:47] <xcaliber178> X-Sleepy-X: No, what is tabulator?
[19:47] <isank> wjoosh: i didn't get u
[19:47] <xcaliber178> genii: I tryed but the output of the command wont fit to the terminal screen/history.
[19:47] <minimec> syntroPi: Ok. That's an argument, I agree...
[19:47] <isank> wilee-nilee- could you help me please
[19:47] <Condenado> does anyone know a network manager application that integrates with windowmaker/gworkspace ?
[19:47] <bekks> xcaliber178: Then use pastebinit.
[19:48] <isank> who is that user
[19:48] <wjoosh> isank: It sounds like you don't the bios setup correctly but i dont know the specific setting for that machine
[19:48] <schnappi_> Hi. First time using irc. I was wondering if anyone would be willing to talk through some RT: Request Tracker installation issues I am having.
[19:48] <isank> wjoosh:i think i did it
[19:48] <wjoosh> isank: And yea, i know it's not a bios, but i still call it that :)
[19:48] <schnappi_> *the RT channel isn't as active as here...
[19:48] <X-Sleepy-X> xcaliber178: the TAB key..
[19:48] <isank> wjoosh:there is nothing much to do in this machines BIOS
[19:49] <wjoosh> isank: you get a "cant read disk" error when you pick from the menu?
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> isank,  I have been trying, by steering you to people who can. This uefi is a bit new for the open source community, and it s a bit different per manufactureres as far as installing, they have tweaked it for their use.
[19:49] <X-Sleepy-X> xcaliber178: start typing sudo apt-get autoremove --purge linux-image-  then press tab
[19:49] <X-Sleepy-X> xcaliber178: that way you will get a list of installed versions
[19:49] <isank> no actually i don't get anything just a continuously blinking screen
[19:50] <X-Sleepy-X> xcaliber178: also, you might wanna remove some linux-headers...
[19:50] <wilee-nilee> isank, Honestly anyone who helps you that does not ask if you are backed up first should be taken lightly.
[19:50] <isank> wjoosh:and after that i have to force shutdown the machine using power button
[19:51] <wjoosh> wilee-nilee: it's more likely to brick the machine than erase data :)
[19:51] <crashXcore> Hello world :) How goes it?
[19:51] <genii> xcaliber178: OK, give me a minute or two to formulate a plan :)
[19:51] <lesshaste> how do I tell if I have 32 or 64 bit install?
[19:52] <isank> so is there anyone who can help me on this
[19:52] <crashXcore> cat proc/cpuinfo
[19:52] <X-Sleepy-X> !anyone | isank
[19:52] <wjoosh> isank: It's an efi setting on your lappie, but i cant do it without seeing the screen, sorry :( im not familiar with that model of sony
[19:53]  * X-Sleepy-X giggles
[19:53] <lesshaste> uname -a ends i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[19:53] <lesshaste> is that 32 or 64 bit?
[19:53] <xcaliber178> Actually I did have linux-image-3.2.0-37-generic. I just now removed it and re-ran "sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic" still didnt work.
[19:53] <syntroPi> 32
[19:53] <stephanb> hey, can someone recommend a stable and reliable free url redirect service? like kickme.to back in the days
[19:54] <jrib> !ot | stephanb
[19:54] <X-Sleepy-X> lesshaste: looks like 32
[19:54] <lesshaste> thanks
[19:54] <lesshaste> what does 64 bit look like?
[19:54] <isank> Who is the UEFi guy there
[19:54] <syntroPi> amd64
[19:54] <kostkon> stephanb, x.co
[19:54] <isank> UEFI help
[19:54] <lesshaste> thanks
[19:54] <X-Sleepy-X> x86_64
[19:54] <isank> UEFI help please
[19:54] <lesshaste> isank, just ask :)
[19:54] <lesshaste> isank, don't ask  to ask
[19:55] <isank> lesshaste:can you help me
[19:55] <isank> with my problem
[19:55] <syntroPi> lesshaste, "Linux hostnamegioeshere 3.8.0-25-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 6 20:47:07 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[19:55] <X-Sleepy-X> lesshaste: x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:55] <isank> help needed on UEFI please
[19:55] <syntroPi> thats the amd64 pkgs
[19:55] <saiarcot895> isank, just ask your question
[19:55] <lesshaste> isank, you are about to get kicked
[19:56] <saiarcot895> If someone can answer it, they will
[19:56] <AdvoWork> hi there, just about to upgrade from 12.10, and i've seen on the new one that theres a different menu option rather than what i have now, it basically shows Applications in the top left. whats it called(i know its a crap description lol)
[19:56] <lesshaste> isank, if you don't just ask a sensible queston
[19:56] <wjoosh> he's been asking already, give him a break: you guys obvious just joined and missed his question
[19:56] <lesshaste> syntroPi, thanks
[19:56] <sammy> so df says my / is full (/var and /home are on other filesystems). when I use `du -x . | sort -n` it only claims to find a total of 1.3gb of files. what am I doing wrong?
[19:56] <lesshaste> wjoosh, k
[19:56] <sammy> oh whoops, I should havementioned the filesystem is 19gb large
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> AdvoWork, What desktop?
[19:57] <isank> ok i want to install ubuntu 12.04 64 bit on my sony vaio e series with core i5 and amd 7650 graphics , UEFI and secure boot feature included
[19:57] <debian-n00b> anyone have experience setting up 13.04 to use Radeon HD 5770 w/ 3 monitors? Whenever I boot my pc up once I get to the desktop the launcher bar is missing from all three monitors and compiz crashes
[19:57] <AdvoWork> wilee-nilee, maybe unity or gnome? i dunno
[19:57] <syntroPi> sammy, did you check "df -h"?
[19:57] <kostkon> AdvoWork, 12.10 and 13.04 are basically the same
[19:58] <sammy> syntroPi: says there is absolutely 0 space left on / -- its 100% used. 19gb large. du -kx .  shows a total at the end of 1335416 k blocks, thats not even 2gb, right?
[19:58] <gordonjcp> sammy: du -h
[19:58] <debian-n00b> if I keep the display set to mirror the launcher appears on all three monitors fine. But when I disable mirroring the bar disapears and like I said compiz crashes..
[19:58] <saiarcot895> isank: assuming you aren't able to get into your Ubuntu install, do you have a Live CD/USB?
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> AdvoWork, unty has that panel on the left of the screen, it s actually a plugin in compiz running on top of gnome 3, just trying to get to what the desktop is. Is this the gnome fallback?
[19:59] <isank> saiarcot895:i have a live USB
[19:59] <saiarcot895> isank: Have you tried installing Boot-Repair and using it to set up UEFI?
[19:59] <sammy> gordonjcp: redisplaying the 1335416 as 1.3GB doesn't change anything; I normally use -kx or -mx because I use sort -n afterwards to show me disk hogs.
[20:00] <wilee-nilee> AdvoWork, Take a screen shot of it and imagebin it if that is easier
[20:00] <saiarcot895> isank: Note that you also need a 100-200MB partition at the start of your drive for UEFI.
[20:00] <syntroPi> sammy im not sure about that du command but "df -h" shouldnt be 100% for "/"
[20:00] <syntroPi> its full then i think
[20:00] <sammy> syntroPi: thats what df says, yet du only counts 1.3gb of files on the filesystem
[20:00] <sammy> syntroPi: hence why I'm here :D
[20:00] <isank> saiarcot895: how will i be able to install boot repair when i haven't been able to install ubuntu
[20:01] <saiarcot895> isank: you can use the Live USB to get into a "temporary" version of Ubuntu
[20:01] <saiarcot895> isank: it doesn't install anything by itself
[20:01] <isank> saiarcot895: sorry but trying ubuntu is also not working
[20:02] <saiarcot895> isank: from the Live USB? does it give any error message?
[20:02] <wjoosh> saiarcot895: his problem is he gets the live cd to boot, but after selecting form the menu, it just hangs on black screen with blinkin cursor
[20:02] <wjoosh> saiarcot895: (At least that's what he told me)
[20:02] <isank> saiarcot895: yes from live USB and no error message just a screen continuously blinking
[20:02] <travisimo> I know this is a bit off topic, but I just installed Kali Linux, and so far like it more than Ubuntu 13.04.  Are they pretty similar as far as dependencies and compatabilities?
[20:02] <AdvoWork> wilee-nilee, i think this is the one I want http://i.imgur.com/G6Pkg6p.png  whats that?
[20:03] <kostkon> AdvoWork, gnome shell
[20:03] <CaseyA> can I be shown the "rules" of what can and cannot be discussed for this channel?
[20:03] <isank> saiarcot895: yes 'wjoosh' is absolutely right
[20:03] <AdvoWork> kostkon, is it a default in the new version?
[20:03] <kostkon> AdvoWork, no
[20:03] <AdvoWork> easy to enable though?
[20:03] <syntroPi> sammy, hmm on my box "du -kx|sort -n" shows exactly the same that "df -h" shows almost "13172324" and 13G
[20:03] <Jumpy> hello
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> AdvoWork, That is the gnome-shell, I use that one myself, there are a ton of extensions as well.
[20:04] <kostkon> !gnome3 | AdvoWork
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> kostkon, That is athe shell
[20:04] <saiarcot895> isank: I would say that's either a graphics problem (are you using any very old graphics) or some file is missing on the USB (which seems unlikely to me if thing went successfully when installing to the USB)
[20:04] <foobArrr> problem with 12.04 and disk encryption: I just installed 12.04, the (alternate) installer froze for several minutes after asking for the luks passphrase, but afterwards installation went normal. now the installed system also freezes at boot for about 40 seconds after the luks passphrase prompt. you can see the delay in the bootchart, cryptsetup seems to use one cpu core from second 12 to 52. any ideas?
[20:04] <foobArrr> bootchart: http://s3.imgimg.de/uploads/bootcharta5b754afpng.png ; dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5787801/
[20:04] <kostkon> wilee-nilee, wrong person :P
[20:04] <saiarcot895> isank: besides that, I'm not sure
[20:04] <syntroPi> sammy,  have you "cd /" before that "du -kx | sort n" command?
[20:05] <Jumpy> if anyone isn't busy, could I get a hand with installing VNC? I've been having some problems.
[20:05] <wjoosh> isank: saiarcot895 that's a good point, i assume you checked the md5 hash of the install media?
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> heh, it happens, ;)
[20:05] <isank> saiarcot895: graphics cannot be old because the machine was launched in 2012 end
[20:05] <isank> saiarcot895: wjoosh but the same live USB is working on my desktop and virtualBox
[20:06] <wilee-nilee> AdvoWork, THe shell looks the same basically in all releases, the extensions though add stuff to the topbar and to the system making it look different
[20:06] <sammy> syntroPi: yes, sorry, good suggestion but not it. I found out that there were deleted files that have not been fully cleared from teh filesystem because the process ... that either created them or was using them or some such is still running. one was a 17gb log file for splunk :P
[20:07] <sammy> syntroPi, and for those following along at home: if du and df give you wildly different results, try `lsof | grep deleted`
[20:07] <wilee-nilee> AdvoWork, Just for info purposes here is the extensions link.  https://extensions.gnome.org/
[20:08] <wjoosh> isank: you might want to try a 13.04 inscase it's an ubuntu issue with 12.04
[20:08] <syntroPi> isank, you can check it by going into the usb stick root directory and issue "md5sum -c md5sum.txt" and it will check all files on it
[20:09] <genii> xcaliber178: Sorry for lag, my boss is wanting me. I have to go afk a bit.
[20:10] <xcaliber178> genii: No problem.
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> foobArrr, Have you considered just reinstalling.
[20:10] <isank> wjoosh : well i think that is the only thing left to do now
[20:11] <isank> syntroPi : it says OK after every file name
[20:11] <syntroPi> then the data for all the files on it are written correctly
[20:11] <nrthedreamer> in unity panel, is it possible to have separate icons for each window of a program
[20:11] <skinnyblondegirl> blonde
[20:12] <Erwin> Good evening,  I have Ubuntu 13.04 and I just installed Cinnamon 1.8, anyone here knows how to switch from Unity to Cinnamon?
[20:12] <astropriate> I have an init script living in /etc/init/FOO.conf and it works great with ubuntu 12.04, but I can't register the same thing on ubuntu 12.10  because  chkconfig  doesn't exit. Please advise on what to do
[20:12] <th0r> Erwin, the gear icon at the login screen
[20:12] <wjoosh> nrthedreamer: do you mean the launcher bar?
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> Erwin, at the dropdown gear at logn
[20:12] <syntroPi> Erwin, logout and click at that round symbol in lightdm, choose cinnamon and let it rock
[20:12] <Erwin> ok thanks, will try :)
[20:13] <foobArrr> wilee-nilee: I aborted my first installation attempt when it froze and tried again, so I had the problem twice. I'm quite sure the delay during installation and the delay during boot are connected, so I don't think reinstalling will help.
[20:13] <isank> syntroPi: only the very last line says md5sum: WARNING: 1 listed file could not be read
[20:13] <skinnyblondegirl> i have an issue with my acer touchpad have had a look around but the scrolling is not smoothing
[20:13] <nrthedreamer> wjoosh: yes
[20:13] <isank> does that really matter
[20:13] <syntroPi> isank, hmm thats strange indeed
[20:13] <wjoosh> nrthedreamer: I dont know of anything that does it, but that doesnt mean there isnt one: however in 13.04 they added the ability to mouse wheel over the icon to switch between different windows of the same program
[20:14] <isank> syntroPi:but the same live USB works just fine on my desktop and laptops virtualbox
[20:14] <wjoosh> isank: but what if that file is needed for the laptop? which one is it?
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> foobArrr, Ah, I see, your wait for help on this will probably be really long,  would run a thread at the ubuntu forums as well.
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> I* darn I key
[20:15] <syntroPi> isank, well depends on what file that is: did you go to the >>usb sticks<< root directory? look it up with mount
[20:15] <isank> wjoosh: i don't know which file is it because it just says md5sum: WARNING: 1 listed file could not be read without any file name rest all files says OK
[20:15] <isank> syntroPi: yes i was in the root directory
[20:16] <nrthedreamer> wjoosh:oh, that one this is why i used avant, but now i'm on gnome classic
[20:16] <isank> do u guys think i should give a try to ubuntu 13.04
[20:16] <wow050> When I try and launch from a Ubuntu 13.04 USB it says BOOTMGR is Missing
[20:16] <wow050> Any ideas on this?
[20:17] <nrthedreamer> wjoosh: oh that one thing is why i used avant, but now i'm on gnome classic
[20:17] <saiarcot895> isank: not too much difference, so you might as well
[20:17] <syntroPi> isank, you mean "/" or the one that is listed when you issue "mount" for your "/dev/sd?1" usb stick? i would suggest the later
[20:17] <isank> no not "/" but the root dir of the USB
[20:17] <syntroPi> "/" is an aufs merge of tmpfs (ramdisk) and that ro mount of the usb stick
[20:17] <skinnyblondegirl> also does anypne know how to install this driver ? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/karmic/man4/synaptics.4.html
[20:18] <syntroPi> ok then
[20:18] <wow050> When I try and launch from a Ubuntu 13.04 USB it says BOOTMGR is Missing, any ideas on how to fix this?
[20:18] <nrthedreamer> can unity show the menus in the window itself while not maximized?
[20:19] <wjoosh> nrthedreamer: in 13.04 if you click the icon, it will thumbail the windows, yes
[20:19] <wow050> Anyone?
[20:19] <isank> guys please help me on this i seriously need it
[20:19] <erek> im having a problem with pkg-config or whatever not being able to virtually any library i have installed
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> wow050, Have you used this usb to do any installing already?
[20:19] <erek> Package alsa was not found in the pkg-config search path.
[20:20] <erek> but alsa is definitely installed
[20:20] <wow050> Yeah, but I did a fresh install on the usb
[20:20] <wow050> Today
[20:20] <erek> and a bunch of other things that are definitely installed
[20:20] <syntroPi> isank, are you sure every file has OK at the end? maybe try something like "md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -v OK"
[20:20] <wow050> wilee-nilee, Yes I have but I did a fresh install of 13.04 on it today
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> wow050, Could you have installed grub to it by accident instead of the mbr of the installation. Sometimes the usb will show as sda and put grub into its mbr.
[20:21] <wjoosh> syntroPi: I am hoping he doesnt have one of those viaos with the hybrid hard drive - they are basically UEFI RAID instal and that's when people start running away :-)
[20:21] <wilee-nilee> wow050, I would reload the usb.
[20:22] <genii> xcaliber178: Do you have pastebinit installed?
[20:22] <trism> erek: alsa.pc is in libasound2-dev
[20:22] <erek> that's installed
[20:22] <syntroPi> wjoosh, what exactly was the problem while installing? didnt see disk?
[20:22] <wow050> wilee-nilee, I had Ubuntu installed on it but I wanted Windows instead so I deleted my Ubuntu partition and installed Windows but now I need Ubuntu again
[20:22] <trism> erek: what is the output of: which pkg-config
[20:22] <wow050> wilee-nilee, By "on it" I mean on my PC
[20:22] <xcaliber178> genii: i believe so
[20:22] <wjoosh> syntroPi: well he gets a blank screen, blinking cursor, after booting and selecting 'install ubuntu'. no error messages, sadly.
[20:23] <erek> trism: i was wrong, heh
[20:23] <wjoosh> syntroPi: it's not nomodeset
[20:23] <wilee-nilee> wow050, on the usb?
[20:23] <syntroPi> aah was just about suggesting that
[20:23] <trism> erek: find it?
[20:23] <genii> xcaliber178: If so, then: apt-cache policy linux-image* | pastebinit    ...and then to give the URL
[20:23] <erek> trism: yeah
[20:23] <syntroPi> wjoosh, and try ubuntu its same?
[20:24] <wow050> wilee-nilee. No I had Ubuntu previously installed on my PC which I then deleted the Ubuntu partition and installed Windows. Is GRUB on another partition I need to delete or something?
[20:24] <wilee-nilee> wow050, I see, I would just reload the usb if you are getting an boot error, make sure you resize the windows partition with its disk manager, not the ubuntu installer.
[20:25] <Jumpy> Is anyone free? I tried following a tutorial on installing VNC, but it ended up not working correctly in the end.
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> wow050, Grub is in ubuntu and the mbr of the HD, it sounds like you just need to reload the usb to get a good boot from it.
[20:26] <wow050> wilee-nilee, what do you mean by reload? Like reinstall Ubuntu to my USB?
[20:26] <isank> syntroPi: hey there is a file name which says md5sum: ./pool/main/g/grub2-signed/grub-efi-amd64-signed_1.9~ubuntu12.04.3+1.99-21ubuntu3.9_amd64.deb: No such file or directory
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> wow050, Yeah, I assume your definition of install means load the ISO to it.
[20:27] <erek> trism: what's the opengl dev?
[20:27] <wow050> wilee-nilee, Why yes it does ha ha! Does it matter if I use 13.04 or 12.10?
[20:27] <syntroPi> isank, that will be involved into uefi boot with security
[20:27] <syntroPi> maybe just find it and drop it in that path?
[20:27] <syntroPi> verify with md5sum then
[20:28] <isank> ok will do that
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> wow050, I would go 13.04 or 12.04. 12.04 is long term support 5 years, so it s up to you really.
[20:28] <stefan-_> any idea why pulseaudio + snd_usb_caiaq gives latencies on 13.04?
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> is*
[20:28] <syntroPi> i did that once (download, write, recheck) and it solves an issue for me
[20:28] <stefan-_> especially when compiz is using cpu time
[20:29] <isank> ok give me some time i will be back
[20:29] <xcaliber178> genii: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5787876/
[20:29] <Jumpy> hm
[20:30] <syntroPi> isank, and also make sure you choose uefi boot when installing it. on some bios firmware you can choose if you want to boot uefi or normal and if you choose normal and then reboot into uefi it fails. but obviously you did already boot into uefi
[20:30] <adie> I was wondering if someone could help me out with libnotify / notify-OSD in C. I can't figure out how to get notifications to merge! plz PM if you can maybe help
[20:31] <syntroPi> in the boot device selection
[20:32] <Jumpy> fuck it
[20:33] <trism> erek: there are several, but usually you want the mesa ones: apt-cache search -n mesa dev;
[20:34] <genii> xcaliber178: So it looks like you have only 4 kernels installed at the moment.  3.2.0-37.58, 3.2.0-45.70, 3.2.0.45.54, and 3.2.0-41.66  ...which one is your uname command reporting?
[20:39] <svendarm> my utserver has a lock-symbol on it, how do i remove that?
[20:39] <aamer> hello room, how can i setup my system locale in a way that makes it correctly display arabic software that doesn't support unicode?
[20:39] <ForkTeam19> Hi peepsols, I'm Fork and I need some help
[20:40] <vlt> !ask
[20:40] <aamer> I did :P
[20:40] <ForkTeam19> IOh okay sorry
[20:41] <syntroPi> aamer,  did you try to add it in system settings?
[20:41] <isank> syntroPi: buddy i think the file itself is corrupted
[20:41] <jan_> good evening
[20:42] <ForkTeam19> Hi
[20:42] <syntroPi> whats "cat md5sum.txt | grep grub-efi-amd64-signed_1.9~ubuntu12.04.3+1.99-21ubuntu3.9_amd64.deb"?
[20:42] <Guest16606> who can help me installing some software packages?
[20:42] <syntroPi> isank ^^
[20:42] <syntroPi> isank, in the usb root dir
[20:42] <svendarm> isnt it ./program to runa  program?
[20:43] <isank> syntroPi:i mean the iso of 12.04 because the hash given on website for the iso differs from the one generated by ubuntu on my desktop
[20:43] <dichotoPangea> Hey, I've been having some trouble with using ffmpeg to record my desktop, can anyone tell me how to fix this error: http://pastebin.com/J9jDkKbE
[20:43] <ForkTeam19> So I was wondering, is it still possible to dual boot an iPhone with android because I have an iPhone 4 and would like to dualboot. If so, may I have a guide.
[20:43] <Guest16606> There is a description of what I intend to install here: http://hci.rwth-aachen.de/fabscan_software
[20:43] <syntroPi> isank, give me that md5sum and i will try to find it for you
[20:43] <aamer> syntroPi yes ofcourse I did, but I actually don't think I'm doing the right thing, I could do it easily with other distros like mageia for example... I don't know what do here! I want English as my display Language, but I still want it to treat programs that don't support unicode as Arabic, that was possible and easy in windows, can I do it here?
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> !ask > Guest16606
[20:44] <isank> syntroPi: the website one or the one generated by me
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> Guest16606, You get help here by stating the problem.
[20:44] <wilee-nilee> to the channel not me
[20:45] <isank> 128f0c16f4734c420b0185a492d92e52 - generated by me
[20:45] <syntroPi> isank, issue "cat md5sum.txt | grep grub-efi-amd64-signed_1.9~ubuntu12.04.3+1.99-21ubuntu3.9_amd64.deb" in the usb root dir and give me output
[20:45] <xcaliber178> genii: 3.2.0-41-generic
[20:45] <isank> okie
[20:46] <syntroPi> aamer, idk but there is also an command line way to install locales, havent done that for your situation though so maybe someone else is of more help
[20:46] <isank> syntroPi:here it is a44fd945c271a3d8e7e7b9de1477fed9
[20:46] <ForkTeam19> Also, I'm a complete newbie to irc, what is the ! in front of some words for?
[20:46] <Guest16606> i want to install the FabScan Software. But what are dependencies and how do I have to install them?
[20:46] <aamer> thank you syntroPi
[20:47] <syntroPi> isank,  http://ubuntu.mirror.cambrium.nl/ubuntu//pool/main/g/grub2-signed/grub-efi-amd64-signed_1.9~ubuntu12.04.3+1.99-21ubuntu3.9_amd64.deb
[20:47] <trism> adie: this is a basic python example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5787922/ (basically both notifications need the same title and hint)
[20:47] <Guest16606> i want to install the FabScan Software. But what are dependencies and how do I have to install them? http://hci.rwth-aachen.de/fabscan_software
[20:47] <genii> xcaliber178: Well, looks like the only one to remove then is: sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-37*     ... if you: ls /boot   do you see any other ones which are not those 4 numbers from apt-cache? They may have been removed but their files remain because not purged
[20:47] <syntroPi> isank,  mount the stick rw and drop it into the /pool/main/g/grub2-signed/ directory
[20:48] <Dustin> Hi there, I just installed / upgraded Alsa, Skype audio works now, it didn't previously. Now anytime I run a site, that has flash with audio, flash plugin instantly crashes. I have tried reinstalling flash, to no avail. Any help is appreciated
[20:48] <isank> syntroPi:how did u find that so fast
[20:48] <syntroPi> googled for md5sum
[20:48] <adie> :x
[20:49] <isank> syntroPi : does that really works
[20:49] <akurilin> Quick question, what is the latest consensus on how to install flash for firefox in 12.04? I've run into a lot of different options online and am looking for the most popular one.
[20:49] <usercheck_> in ubuntu, is it legal  if i'm check own port for check security?
[20:49] <syntroPi> isank, i think so yes since its exactly the one that provides your signed uefi boot functionality
[20:50] <vlt> usercheck_: ?
[20:50] <eponus> usercheck_: that is nothing to do with ubuntu - ask your local police!
[20:50] <isank> syntroPi: from how many years are you working on linux
[20:50] <syntroPi> isank, recheck with that "md5sum -c md5sum.txt | grep -v OK" and if fine and you are backed up try installing it again
[20:50] <svendarm> in xchat, can i set my own posts to another color in grey so it is easier to find them?
[20:50] <eponus> usercheck_: Ubuntu doesn't have the sort of license that limits how you may use the software
[20:51] <xcaliber178> genii: I issued sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.2.0-37*    and got this: http://pastebin.com/XBxxWjkH
[20:51] <syntroPi> isank, idk 10+ maybe?
[20:51] <isank> syntroPi: man u are the one i need to learn this beast.
[20:51] <isank> can u help me buddy
[20:52] <isank> can u like give me u email id or facebook profile id etc etc
[20:52] <syntroPi> not sure im not experienced with (signed) uefi
[20:52] <isank> just anything for private chat with you whenever i need it
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> Guest16606, This is 3rd party stuff, as a heads up this channel is ubuntu repo orientated 3rd party stuff is generally not supported, I would thisnk the ISO and other things they provide would get you going.
[20:52] <isank> hey its not just abt UEFI buddy it's about linux
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> think*
[20:53] <syntroPi> isank, feel free to always ask me in #ubuntu  if im here
[20:53] <isank> linux is the beast UEFI is just a ego gone crazy thing of those manufacturers
[20:53] <guntbert> isank: it is generally prefered to keep support in the channel
[20:53] <travisimo> will > dd if=/dev/hda of=./part1.image backup my entire SSD?  and if so where does it save the file?
[20:54] <isank> ok no problem i didn't wanted to hurt any one's privacy guys
[20:54] <dichotoPangea> Does anyone know why ffmpeg can't open my X display?
[20:55] <genii> xcaliber178:  So then to examine the: ls /boot do you see any other ones which are not those 4 numbers from apt-cache? If so, then you can safely rm those
[20:55] <ForkTeam19> Anyone know if it still is or ever was possible for android on the iphone 4 through ubuntu?
[20:55] <guntbert> travisimo: if /dev/hda were your SSD (which I doubt) then yes, it would write the image to your current directory
[20:55] <ForkTeam19> Or is that too off topic?
[20:56] <isank> syntroPi:hey the result is 0
[20:57] <xcaliber178> genii: http://pastebin.com/SKvYazBg
[20:58] <travisimo> is there a way I can use the Unix terminal to clone my entire SSD and then boot with a live cd and use the terminal to restore the clone?
[20:58] <OerHeks> !clone
[20:59] <wilee-nilee> travisimo, If you have a place to clone it I would use clonezilla.
[20:59] <genii> xcaliber178: I suspect the "extlinux" may be taking room. do you know what it is?
[20:59] <eponus> travisimo: You can indeed, you can copy with rsync, but then you need to setup the bootloader manually
[20:59] <wow050> wilee-nilee, Just put 13.04 on a different USB and still got BOOTMGR is missing
[20:59] <usercheck_> sorry , my question cannot be understand
[21:00] <ForkTeam19> I must now, of all times, go, Good bye, fellow Ubuntuans!
[21:00] <usercheck_> i'm repeat my question
[21:00] <wilee-nilee> wow050, How did you load it?
[21:00] <travisimo> wilee-nilee I have not tried that yet as it uses a GUI, but I may go that route soon :-)
[21:00] <travisimo> eponus I will look into that
[21:00] <usercheck_> i have install nmap
[21:00] <usercheck_> i want to check my open port
[21:00] <wow050> wilee-nilee, Downloaded the ISO from the site and then used Unetbootin to load it on the flashdrive
[21:00] <usercheck_> to give secure
[21:00] <usercheck_> is it illegal?
[21:01] <eponus> travisimo: google for "full bootable backup with rsync" or somesuch term. its a common trick. However using clonezilla would be easier, as wille-nillee says
[21:01] <reisio> usercheck_: is nmap illegal?
[21:01] <wilee-nilee> wow050, I this a computer that has or had a uefi setup?
[21:01] <Alina-malina> usercheck_, speak here i dont want to pm with you
[21:01] <eponus> usercheck_: Ubuntu does not make any rules like that. Ask your police.
[21:01] <syntroPi> isank, no errors with md5sum now?
[21:01] <isank> yup
[21:01] <Alina-malina> usercheck_, if you have any question regarding coding share here to everyone and stop pm-ing me
[21:01] <isank> no errors with md5sum
[21:01] <xcaliber178> genii: I have no idea what it is, http://pastebin.com/mbPV2DJc
[21:01] <isank> but nothing changed with the installatio
[21:01] <Alina-malina> usercheck_, do you understand english?
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> wow050, Have you checked the md5sum of the ISO?
[21:02] <isank> its same as before
[21:02] <wow050> wilee-nilee, Not sure what UEFI is or how to check the md4sum.
[21:02] <OerHeks> reisio, in Germany it is, AFAIK http://nmap.org/book/legal-issues.html
[21:02] <syntroPi> isank, well just to make sure have you done a backup of your data? there are strange things happening with uefi variables. some samsung notebooks were bricked beyond repair because they had a bug in their uefi firmware, so anything from now  at your own risk...
[21:02] <wilee-nilee> !md5 | wow050
[21:02] <reisio> OerHeks: wasn't actually asking him that, but whether he was asking that
[21:03] <OerHeks> usercheck_, no problem on your local network
[21:03] <Alina-malina> usercheck_, stop pm-ing me are you stupid?
[21:03] <eponus> reisio: OerHeks some software also in the license says you cannot use it for illegal things or building weapons etc
[21:03] <reisio> eponus: wasn't actually asking him that, but whether he was asking that
[21:04] <usercheck_> sorry , i'm just know if you chat in room
[21:04] <usercheck_> i'm sorry
[21:04] <eponus> reisio: i think he was
[21:04] <wilee-nilee> wow050, What is the usb's partition type, is it fat32?
[21:04] <reisio> eponus: if only I'd asked if you thought he was :D
[21:04] <usercheck_> oerheks thx
[21:04] <wow050> wilee-nilee, NTFS. Im following the guide you linked.
[21:04] <usercheck_> alina-malina sorry , i'm just know if you chat in room
[21:04] <dichotoPangea> Okay, does anyone know what could cause this: [x11grab @ 0x9b4fa20] Could not open X display.
[21:05] <usercheck_> stupied? ,stupied is smart
[21:05] <reisio> dichotoPangea: are you running it from inside X?
[21:05] <wilee-nilee> wow050, Make it a fat32 then load the ISO again, I would check the sum as well. Not sure any links I gave mention ntfs. I use ntfs on loading W7 or W8 with an extraction to the usb and a boot flag, but fat32 on any others.
[21:06] <usercheck_> stupied is important to get our motivation
[21:06] <syntroPi> isank, have you tried to google if that ubuntu precise is working for your exact laptop model with uefi and signed enabled?
[21:06] <usercheck_> we all are from zero
[21:06] <dichotoPangea> reisio, how do I tell if am? I was just running ffmpeg from a terminal. It's worked before, but I can't find the command that did.
[21:06] <Alina-malina> looks like we have a philosoph here, stop flooding the channel usercheck_  you look so stupid
[21:06] <syntroPi> isank, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[21:06] <reisio> dichotoPangea: xchat is an IRC client for X
[21:06] <genii> xcaliber178: google tells me extlinux is another kind of bootloader. Is the drive you have your Ubuntu on, and which we are looking at, the only bootable drive in the system?
[21:07] <reisio> it runs in X only, mostly
[21:07] <reisio> so you're in X
[21:07] <wow050> wilee-nilee, Ok. Just formatted it to FAT32 and am reinstalling Ubuntu to it
[21:07] <usercheck_> i'm not flooding here,why you say it
[21:07] <isank> syntroPi:yes i did and there only i got nomodeset thing which atleast give me this simple command prompt to use
[21:07] <syntroPi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsSony
[21:07] <dichotoPangea> reisio, so do you know why ffmpeg -x11grab doesn't work?
[21:08] <usercheck_> i'm try to lesson here, don't speak with me alina
[21:08] <SolarisBoy> reisio: do you get an error?
[21:08] <syntroPi> isank which is your exact model?
[21:08] <reisio> dichotoPangea: nope, you could try service lightdm restart
[21:08] <reisio> SolarisBoy: from?
[21:09] <dichotoPangea> reisio, what does that mean?
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> wow050, Cool, that should be fine, if the ISO is good. UNetbootin is a good loader the only thing I dislike about is not getting the first gui of try or install or check the disc. t can be reached, however  don't know how, if one needs to use that menu or additonal tweaks.
[21:09] <isank> SVE15128CNS
[21:09] <SolarisBoy> your /ffmpeg -f x11grab.+/ command
[21:09] <SolarisBoy> reisio: ^
[21:09] <guntbert> usercheck_: please stop those random comments - this channel is for ubuntu support
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> wow050, Sorry my I key is problematic, I just ordered a new keyboard.
[21:10] <wow050> wilee-nilee, All good :D
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[21:10] <xcaliber178> genii: it's the only bootable internal drive. I have used a bootable flash drive and a bootable external HDD on this system.
[21:11] <usercheck_> oerheks , i'm try monitor setting in ubuntu, system-->monitors, when i try to right orientation, can we change touchpad axis?,example, x become y, y become x,
[21:11] <reisio> SolarisBoy: never used it
[21:11] <reisio> try grecordmydesktop
[21:11] <isank> SVE15128CNS
[21:12] <isank> syntroPi:SVE15128CNS
[21:12] <eponus> isank: Which version of Ubuntu are you trying to install on that?
[21:12] <SolarisBoy> reisio: oh - pardon - i thought you were saying you were using ffmpeg with the x11 screen grab option
[21:12] <isank> eponus:12.04
[21:12] <SolarisBoy> reisio: oh im good on gtkrecordmydesktop - ffmpeg works magic for me and provided more options
[21:12] <erek> guys, im trying to compile kdenlive myself
[21:12] <genii> xcaliber178: So I'd suggest to sudo apt-get purge extlinux   in this case. If it stalls out, try sudo rm -rf /boot/extlinux  and then follow with sudo apt-get -f install
[21:12] <isank> eponus:do you know abt this laptop
[21:13] <reisio> yes ffmpeg does more
[21:13] <reisio> but how much do you really need a screen grabber to do
[21:13] <eponus> isank: Did you try 13.04?
[21:13] <usercheck_>  i'm try monitor setting in ubuntu, system-->monitors, when i try to right orientation, can we change touchpad axis?,example, x become y, y become x,
[21:13] <reisio> particularly if it doesn't work :p
[21:13] <isank> eponus:nope
[21:13] <isank> eponus:u think it may help?
[21:13] <wow050> wilee-nilee, Ok so I mashed my BIOS key and it went straight to Grub. Gonna try installing it now.
[21:13] <SolarisBoy> thats what i was asking you... why you *think* it's not working ...
[21:13] <syntroPi> isank, yes i got it but its not listed there, you just have to "try ubuntu" maybe?
[21:14] <SolarisBoy> but then you brought up gtkrecordmydesktop which is a non-option atleast for me - so i really dont know - just have a script that calls ffmpeg when i want to screengrab
[21:14] <eponus> isank: I know nothing about your laptop except that the model number of all VAIO contains date, model and country code. That is all.
[21:14] <isank> syntroPi: sorry but i didn't get u clearly
[21:14] <SolarisBoy> the most flexibility i use it for is ease of use - and ease of format changes (try a flv versus a avi)
[21:15] <syntroPi> isank, i cant find if it would work which means you have to try it out like choosing "try ubuntu" at startup and try to get it working in your ram. then you can go ahead and install
[21:16] <eponus> isank: But I can see the laptop is 2012 (that is what the 12 means) and might be newer than Ubuntu 12.04
[21:16] <syntroPi> good point
[21:17] <usercheck_> how to changes x,y axis orientation, when we change monitor orientation in , system->monitors?
[21:18] <isank> eponus: but have they included UEFI support in 13.04
[21:18] <eponus> isank: It will the same as, or better than, it was in 12.04
[21:18] <sienez> hi. how can I run commands each time a user logs out. I want to specify the commands only once for all users
[21:19] <wow050> Anyway to encrypt the harddrive and dualboot with windows 8?
[21:19] <reisio> sienez: mmm, do you know the DE ahead of time?
[21:19] <syntroPi> isank, Support for UEFI SecureBoot appeared in 12.10 and 12.04.2
[21:20] <isank> ok thank u guys , well r u both the regular visitors of this node
[21:20] <syntroPi> isank, maybe thats why you were missing that signed one?
[21:20] <syntroPi> yup
[21:20] <wow050> wilee-nilee: Anyway to encrypt my HDD and dual-boot because its not letting me do it in install.
[21:20] <reisio> wow050: sure
[21:20] <eponus> isank: I think you should try 13.04
[21:20] <sienez> reisio, gmt+1
[21:20] <isank> okay will do that
[21:20] <wow050> Reisio: How would I do this?
[21:20] <reisio> sienez: hrmm?
[21:21] <isank> and guys one more thing do you guys know that xubuntu 12.04 include support for UEFI or not
[21:21] <sienez> reisio, ?
[21:21] <reisio> wow050: same as ever, no doubt
[21:21] <reisio> wow050: the installer isn't giving you the option?
[21:21] <isank> i know its based on ubuntu but may be it is different i just thought
[21:21] <reisio> isank: xubuntu is ubuntu with a different DE installed
[21:21] <xcaliber178> genii: I issued sudo apt-get purge extlinux           http://pastebin.com/MWtgpedf
[21:21] <wow050> Reisio: It is but only if I replace my Windows with Ubuntu
[21:21] <reisio> isank: things like hardware support will be identical
[21:21] <reisio> wow050: why wouldn't you want to do that anyways
[21:21] <dichotoPangea> reisio, here's the whole error I'm getting: http://pastebin.com/nCMmzRA9
[21:21] <syntroPi> isank, as i said uefi is new to me but have you read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#SecureBoot
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> wow050, I mentioned UEFI earlier, W8 factory installs use this setup it is a gpt partitioning, I am thinking you may have this, it is a bot different, check this link. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI  . Otherwise I have not messed with encryption.
[21:22] <wow050> Reisio: I need to keep Windows for school stuff
[21:22] <wilee-nilee> bit*
[21:22] <eponus> isank: hardware support should be the same, but the installer is different so sometimes there are slight changes. I would be surprised if it made a difference. 13.04 would be my recommendation,.
[21:22] <reisio> dichotoPangea: did you try avconv? Since you've got libav and not ffmpeg
[21:22] <reisio> wow050: that's what VMs are for
[21:22] <isank> syntoPi:actually i did everything according to that article only but it still doesnot work for me
[21:23] <wow050> Reisio: Whats that?
[21:23] <genii> xcaliber178: Yes, so then just manually then to: sudo rm -rf /boot/extlinux
[21:23] <syntroPi> isank, and you did disable secure boot you said?
[21:23] <dichotoPangea> reisio, I'm not sure how to use aconv for recording. I tried a sample command I found and got a similar error, about not getting the X display.
[21:23] <eponus> isank: UEFi support in older linux is buggy, this is to be expected especially if using 12.04
[21:23] <isank> syntroPi:yup also did that
[21:23] <eponus> isank: manufacturers also face the same problem, of switching to a new technology
[21:24] <reisio> wow050: virtual machines
[21:24] <reisio> dichotoPangea: k
[21:24] <isank> ok so 13.04 is the best way to make it i think
[21:24] <isank> thanks
[21:24] <reisio> dichotoPangea: you could ask #ffmpeg or #libav
[21:24] <wow050> Reisio: I remember hearing about those. Its a program that will run Ubuntu while in Windows right?
[21:24] <dichotoPangea> reisio, they on freenode?
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> eponus, Not exactly a accurate statement 12.04.2 has the uefi stuff
[21:24] <reisio> dichotoPangea: sure
[21:24] <genii> xcaliber178: What says the result of: du -h /boot| tail -n1
[21:24] <syntroPi> isank, hmm i would suggest to use startup disk creator to make an x64 stick for ubuntu 13.04 actually because what eponus is saying makes sense
[21:25] <reisio> wow050: or Windows while in Ubuntu
[21:25] <eponus> wilee-nilee: Fully working? :-)
[21:25] <sienez> how can I run commands automatically each time a user logs out?
[21:25] <dman777_alter> does anyone know what echo $TERM shows for konsole?
[21:25] <reisio> sienez: each time a user logs out of ordinary Ubuntu's Unity?
[21:25] <Alina-malina> usercheck_, last warning if you have questions ask in the main channel, i will put you into ignore list if you not stop disturbing me with threads!
[21:25] <sienez> reisio, yes
[21:25] <wow050> Reisio: If I run a Ubuntu VM while in WIndows, will it save all my Ubuntu files and settings and stuff?
[21:25] <wilee-nilee> eponus, THats the rumor, I have not had to mess with it, but 12.04 was a problem on the first realease
[21:26] <isank> syntroPi:is it better than universal usb installer
[21:26] <wilee-nilee> Doh, bad spelling
[21:26] <reisio> dman777_alter: https://www.google.com/search?q="konsole"%20"echo%20term" => https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=185582#c2
[21:26] <usercheck_> caused you the problem became big.
[21:26] <reisio> wow050: yes
[21:26] <reisio> ubottu: very useful :p
[21:26] <serpico> hi
[21:26] <reisio> not much chance of that
[21:26] <wow050> Reisio: Whats a good VM that will do this for me?
[21:27] <reisio> serpico: hiyo
[21:27] <xcaliber178> genii: http://pastebin.com/KmXUFKBw and http://pastebin.com/1VCwqG3W
[21:27] <usercheck_> you have tell me with words:idiot, and stupied
[21:27] <reisio> wow050: VirtualBox is the simplest to use
[21:27] <usercheck_> why
[21:27] <syntroPi> isank, its from within ubuntu (if you use virtualbox you can even use exactly the same version). to my experience it always worked for me (once it crashed but redoing it had success)
[21:27] <reisio> wow050: kvm will give you a performance edge, but it's for GNU/Linux hosts only
[21:27] <dman777_alter> reisio: thanks...but i mean by default?
[21:27] <reisio> dman777_alter: hrmm?
[21:27] <wow050> Reisio: Ok ill try out VirtualBox now! Thanks mate!
[21:27] <isank> syntroPi:ok buddy
[21:28] <reisio> wow050: really better to install Windows in a VM on a Linux host, instead of the other way 'round :p
[21:28] <usercheck_> i'm here to learning, not to debate
[21:28] <reisio> Unix makes a more reliable host OS
[21:28] <syntroPi> isank, its abit of work at the beginning but if you succeed you will feel like a pioneer :D
[21:28] <wow050> Reisio: Why do you think that?
[21:28] <isank> syntroPi:hey i don't know much about linux so which way you recommend to go to learn everybit of it
[21:28] <reisio> because it's a better OS :D
[21:28] <genii> xcaliber178: sudo rm -rf /boot/.Trash-0
[21:28] <dman777_alter> reisio: i installed xterm and can't get it out. but i wanted to know what $TERM would be if I never install xterm
[21:29] <syntroPi> isank, to always try to understand what you are doing. sounds a bit weird but its the only way in my opinion
[21:29] <reisio> dman777_alter: probably still be xterm
[21:29] <xcaliber178> genii: ok.
[21:29] <reisio> dman777_alter: any terminal running in X is arguably an "X term"
[21:29] <guntbert> !who | usercheck_
[21:29] <dman777_alter> reisio: ok, thanks. do you konw what gnome shell TERM would be by default? xterm?
[21:29] <genii> xcaliber178: This is a Mac ?
[21:30] <reisio> dman777_alter: probably; could ask #gnome
[21:30] <xcaliber178> genii: no. HP dm3 running Ubuntu 12.04
[21:30] <dman777_alter> reisio: thanks
[21:30] <genii> xcaliber178: OK
[21:30] <usercheck_> ubootu, ok thx for sugestion, i'm sorry
[21:30] <Magicarp> I've re-installed unity and when attempting to run it via terminal I get this http://pastebin.com/2S30nnPT
[21:30] <aamer> if I follow this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1842951 to purge utorrent server, as far as I can tell, the daemon will still be called each time the system starts up, yes it won't find the needed files but how can I prevent that? and should I?
[21:31] <aamer> AGoodName?
[21:31] <reisio> aamer: huh?
[21:31] <isank> syntroPi:yeah that's good
[21:31] <wow050> Reisio: Why do you think running a Windows VM in Ubuntu is better?
[21:32] <syntroPi> isank, i have to go soon. if i were at your position i would try to install virtualbox and download the latest 13.04 x64 iso. then create new virtual machine and mount that iso as live cd, plug in your usb stick and add it to the usb devices for that machine (in windows installing drivers for vbox maybe?
[21:32] <reisio> wow050: as I said, Unix systems are more reliable as host OSes
[21:32] <eponus> aamer: that guy is special because he installed it without using the software centre or package manager. if you did, it will work properly for you.
[21:32] <isank> syntroPi: but you know i m asking like where to start , learning things good places to know small things about it and etc
[21:32] <reisio> and more efficient :p
[21:32] <guntbert> !ot | wow050 reisio
[21:32] <reisio> guntbert: he asked me, ! man
[21:33] <aamer> reisio eponus it's not available in the software center, so I'm special too lol, so the link shows that I should close the web ui, killall utserver and then delete the files in /usr/bin/utserver
[21:33] <reisio> aamer: what is it you're attempting to accomplish?
[21:34] <isank> syntroPi:time to signout bye bye buddy :) and thanks for all your help
[21:34] <aamer> reisio just wanna remove it and make sure the daemon is not called on system start up
[21:34] <syntroPi> isank then remove usb stick, boot that virtual box, plug it in (it will be grabbed by vbox) and launch startup disk creator in virtualbox ubuntu. it will find that usb drive and suggest to install starup media on it (remove check to keep files its very slow if you leave it checked). then go.. get some coffee, recheck it with md5sum it its done and try to boot from it
[21:34] <eponus> aamer: If they have a .deb download you can use the package manager, even if they are not in the software centre
[21:35] <eponus> aamer: This assumes you installed it from the .deb
[21:35] <reisio> aamer: you sure removing it doesn't remove the init stuff?
[21:36] <svendarm> is there any zigbee support in ubuntu?
[21:37] <eponus> aamer: I've just looked at the download for utorrent server. Yes, you will need to manually remove it.
[21:37] <aamer> reisio no Im not sure but I wanna know how to check that, I mean the init stuff is usually stored in the same  /usr/bin directory? eponus i complied it i dont remember the type of the archive and i can't find it :(
[21:38] <reisio> aamer: no, it's usually elsewhere
[21:39] <svendarm> im trying to run utorrent but when i do ./utserver it just says is not a file or directory, anyone know the problem?
[21:39] <aamer> reisio and eponus thank you both, the question is: how do I check if  utserver is still being calling on system start up
[21:40] <eponus> AaronMT: find utserver
[21:40] <reisio> aamer: pgrep -l utserver
[21:40] <reisio> ps aux | egrep -i 'server|ut'
[21:40] <reisio> etc.
[21:40] <eponus> aamer: that will find where you installed it, not if it's being called
[21:41] <aamer> eponus which "that"?
[21:41] <aamer> eponus I think reisio gave the correct answer right?
[21:42] <eponus> aamer: if it's running as a daemon, then service --status-all to show all running services
[21:43] <genii> xcaliber178: Does: du -h /boot| tail -n1     ...work now?
[21:43] <Dustin> Hi there, I just installed / upgraded Alsa, Skype audio works now, it didn't previously. Now anytime I run a site, that has flash with audio, flash plugin instantly crashes. I have tried reinstalling flash, to no avail. Any help is appreciated
[21:43] <eponus> aamer: then man services to get the flag to turn it off. I don't remember flags offhand.
[21:44] <Global_Radio> is there anyway to output the current temperature ONLY in my city via CLI?
[21:44] <xcaliber178> genii: yes, it outputs "34M	/boot
[21:44] <xcaliber178> "
[21:44] <aamer> thank you eponus :)
[21:44] <eponus> Global_Radio: How are you measuring the temperature?
[21:44] <Global_Radio> degrees F
[21:45] <eponus> Global_Radio: How does the computer know it?
[21:45] <Global_Radio> idk
[21:45] <eponus> Global_Radio: I would recommend you get the temperture from a website with a script, and print it to the terminal. Otherwise you have to plugin a sensor.
[21:45] <genii> xcaliber178: Small but hopefully enough now! To try: sudo apt-get -f install
[21:45] <sienez> i have in my ~/.bash_logout a line mv /tmp/bla.log /usr/share/bla/log but when I log out and back in, the file is still there. I have write permission on it and on target directory as well. whats wrong?
[21:45] <kostkon> Global_Radio, try weather-util?
[21:46] <kostkon> !info weather-util
[21:46] <eponus> Global_Radio: OK, kostkon beats me, use his/her/its solution
[21:46] <kostkon> Global_Radio, give it a try
[21:47] <usercheck_> i have to set monitor orientation from normal to right. its orientation success changed, but can we change touchpad coordinate : x became y,and y became x?
[21:47] <Global_Radio> thanks very much guys
[21:48] <usercheck_> i have setting in, menu ubuntu
[21:52] <usercheck_> i have to set monitor orientation from normal to right. its orientation success changed, but can we change touchpad coordinate : x became y,and y became x?,i'm setting it from menu system
[21:52] <xcaliber178> genii: uname -r     still reports 3.2.0-41-generic
[21:53] <genii> xcaliber178: That's fine. Did the sudo apt-get -f install complete OK though?
[21:54] <xcaliber178> genii: the only errors i see are http://pastebin.com/7iqDYxBe
[21:55] <genii> xcaliber178: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic
[21:57] <OerHeks> usercheck_, Option "InvX" "boolean" Invert the X axis. >>> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/raring/man4/mousedrv.4.html
[21:57] <xcaliber178> genii: http://pastebin.com/2gvx4g2S
[21:58] <hadifarnoud> can someone tell me why this command doesnt work?  grep -v "^#" squid.conf | sed -e '/^$/d' | tee squid.conf
[21:58] <hadifarnoud> I want to remove comments and write output to original file
[21:58] <OerHeks> usercheck_, so there must be something equal for touhpad too
[21:59] <genii> xcaliber178: ls /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.2.0-45*
[21:59] <ejv> #bash might be better suited for scripting support
[21:59] <genii> xcaliber178: ( and tell the result please )
[22:00] <svendarm> So, ok, terribly unspecified question but do you know the song from somtime the last 3 years where a woman(white it I think) sings and then a black man comes in something like "wake up your..." ?
[22:00] <xcaliber178> genii: Output: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic_3.2.0-45.70_amd64.deb
[22:00] <ejv> !offtopic | svendarm
[22:00] <genii> xcaliber178: sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.2.0-45-generic_3.2.0-45.70_amd64.deb
[22:01] <usercheck_> Oerheks, ok , thx. i will try learn your sugestion,
[22:01] <symb0l> are the dbgsym packages for 3.8.0-25-generic available anywhere?
[22:02] <matti45> hello
[22:03]  * genii gets more coffee
[22:04] <xcaliber178> genii: http://pastebin.com/5JEcZYtP
[22:08] <matti45> ?
[22:08] <genii> xcaliber178: Good, it's installed. Now to try again: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic
[22:10] <erek> i finally got kdenlive to work with bezier curves
[22:10] <erek> had to compile all of it
[22:12] <Dustin> Hi there, I just installed / upgraded Alsa, Skype audio works now, it didn't previously. Now anytime I run a site, that has flash with audio, flash plugin instantly crashes. I have tried reinstalling flash, to no avail. Google chrome works fine, no flash crashes. Any help is appreciated.
[22:13] <xcaliber178> genii: http://pastebin.com/WtpKENnB
[22:13] <reisio> Dustin: google chrome flash works fine, or...?
[22:14] <eponus> Dustbin: I presume you have alreadly considered  and rejected "switch browser" ?
[22:14] <Dustin> reisio: yes. Not on FireFox though (preferred browser)
[22:14] <Dustin> yes
[22:14] <reisio> Dustin: k
[22:14] <reisio> Dustin: those use different versions of Flash, for starters
[22:15] <reisio> Dustin: you might want to double check that you have as much OSS stuff disabled (lsmod | grep -i oss), etc.
[22:15] <reisio> (as possible)
[22:15] <genii> xcaliber178: Looks like it got cut off at: Setting up linux-image-generic (3.2.0.45.54) ...         ...did it finish OK without errors is the important thing
[22:16] <xcaliber178> genii: thats the whole thing.
[22:16] <xcaliber178> thats all it said
[22:17] <ThePendulum> How can I solve the issue with "the keyring did not get unlocked" or something? I think it shows up when starting Chrome, but I'm not sure if it's bound to that
[22:17] <genii> xcaliber178: And then it came back to joe@joe-hp:~$   ..?
[22:18] <xcaliber178> genii: yea...odd
[22:19] <genii> xcaliber178: No, that is the usual. It will never usually say something like "Hey things went well and i finished OK". If it returns to prompt, it implicitly finished OK. It's when you get error messages , then to worry!
[22:20] <genii> xcaliber178: If you reboot now you should have the newer kernel installed
[22:20] <reisio> actually, it's when something you want to happen isn't happening that you should really worry :)
[22:20] <reisio> outside of wanting a message to say "hey it's working!" that is :p
[22:22] <xcaliber178> genii: alright cool. thanks :) time to reboot
[22:25] <JoshuaP> How would one go about installing the one called "eventedobject"?
[22:26] <Dustin> reisio: I'm new to linux, so not sure what lsmod | grep -i oss would even do. I've tried reinstalling FF and Flash, but no dice.
[22:26] <trism> symb0l: don't know if you found them already, but they are here: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/l/linux/
[22:26] <reisio> Dustin: it'd see if any kernel modules related to OSS are loaded
[22:27] <symb0l> trism, wow.  no had no luck.  thank you!
[22:31] <kostkon> Dustin, first of all, i don't believe you really needed to update your alsa to make skype work. secondly, you have to tell us in detail what changes you have made to your system, and more specifically your audio stack, until now
[22:32] <kostkon> Dustin, then we might be able to help you
[22:32] <histo> Dustin: Chrome possibly has an updated version of flash.
[22:32] <reisio> it has an entirely different version
[22:34] <Dustin> kostkon: well, updating resolved the issues I was having with Skype.  As I stated, the only thing I have done, was ran this: http://www.stchman.com/alsa_update.html  - After running the shell script, flash started crashing in FireFox instantly. Seems to be with anything that contains audio.
[22:36] <kostkon> Dustin, and what exactly exactly was the problem with skype
[22:38] <Dustin> kostkon: No audio was functioning (mic / sound). I read a few posts, which lead me to that script. After running it and rebooting, skype worked.
[22:38] <Dustin> the audio / mic
[22:38] <kostkon> Dustin, and stopped working elsewhere
[22:40] <Dustin> kostkon: Fixed one issue, opened up another. FireFox and flash worked fine prior.
[22:40] <eponus> *sigh* flash, even adobe wants done with it, but it won't die!
[22:42] <kion> I have a computer that shows no network device found even though i have wireless how can i fix this
[22:42] <reisio> continuing to use it should help :p
[22:43] <reisio> kion: what shows no network device found?
[22:43] <kion> the laptop?
[22:43] <reisio> kion: what program, interface, or command
[22:43] <kion> ubuntu 13.04
[22:43] <reisio> kion: what laptop is it?
[22:44] <kion> when i click on the wireless icon at the top of the desktop thing
[22:44] <reisio> kion: what laptop is it?
[22:44] <kion> i can not find a model number i just know it is a dell
[22:45] <reisio> kion: look on the bottom
[22:45] <kion> i did
[22:46] <reisio> look at the bottom of the monitor panel, then
[22:46] <kion> inspiro 640m
[22:47] <reisio> kion: is there a hardware switch on the side?
[22:48] <kion> no
[22:48] <desti> http://www.pro-linux.de/umfragen/2/161/schadet-ubuntu-linux.html
[22:49] <reisio> desti: if you're going to complain to a bunch of English speakers, try doing it in English
[22:50] <k1l> desti: that is not matching the !guidelines at all
[22:50] <dotut> hello, installed a minimal version of ubuntu server 12.04 lts. it has ntpdate installed by default. the documentation states that this is run once during boot. which script does this?
[22:51] <eponus> kion: is there a key combination you press like fn+F key or something? Has it worked before and failed, or is this a new install?
[22:51] <reisio> kion: sudo lspci | grep -i net
[22:51] <kion> it does but when i do that it does not do anything
[22:51] <reisio> dotut: check dpkg -L ntpdate
[22:51] <kion> ok reisio one moment
[22:52] <symb0l> trism, any chance you know of a similar list for kernel headers?
[22:52] <symb0l> trism, found it
[22:52] <dotut> reisio: checked that..adds a hook to /etc/network/if-up.d/
[22:53] <dotut> reisio: however, where does it get the ntp server info from
[22:54] <reisio> elsewhere in /etc/, no doubt
[22:55] <kion> it says 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: broadcom corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-tx (rev02 and 0c:00.0 network controller: broadcom corpartion BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev01)
[22:55] <xcaliber178> Genii: I am now running the new kernel. But I have a bigger issue now.
[22:56] <genii> xcaliber178: A description of the issue may help :)
[22:57] <reisio> kion: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[22:57] <kion> i have tried that
[22:57] <xcaliber178> Genii: (sorry for slow, I'm on my phone now) Ubuntu is now running in low graphics mode.
[22:57] <kion> sorry wrong window
[22:58] <genii> xcaliber178: You were previously running one of the proprietary drivers, like nvidia or ati ?
[22:58] <kion> i have installed all of that stuff
[22:58] <xcaliber178> Genii: I think, but I'm not totally sure.
[22:59] <genii> xcaliber178: Try going to Additional Drivers and see if it recommends anything
[23:00] <kion> so now what
[23:01] <zonne> just a quick hello I am a new ubunu user
[23:01] <xcaliber178> Genii: ahhh fglrx drivers. Ok it's dl'ing
[23:02] <reisio> zonne: 'lo
[23:03] <genii> zonne: If you have questions regarding your Ubuntu, you can ask the channel generally and see if someone answers. For more casual chit-chat about Ubuntu we have #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:03] <kion> Reisio what do i do now?
[23:03] <reisio> kion: try it again
[23:04] <kion> i can't that takes internet to download them the computer has no internet
[23:04] <xcaliber178> Genii: driver install failed.
[23:04] <reisio> kion: ...then how'd you try it already?
[23:04] <akurilin> Folks, has anybody experienced a "blinking mouse cursor" issue before? It seems to happen to me whenever the mouse is over something that's animated and that chunk of the screen is refreshing.
[23:05] <kion> because i had wired internet connection at one point and downloaded it but something happened and the wired internet stoped working as well so now i have no internet
[23:05] <DatWolf> Yay
[23:05] <reisio> kion: do you have your install media?
[23:05] <reisio> DatWolf: yay!
[23:05] <kion> i am not sure what is that
[23:05] <DatWolf> reisio
[23:06] <DatWolf> I'm confused.
[23:06] <genii> xcaliber178: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-generic linux-source dkms  ...to make sure you have all the right pieces first. Then try again with the Additional Drivers
[23:06] <DatWolf> and
[23:06] <DatWolf> are you an op reisio
[23:06] <reisio> DatWolf: nope
[23:06] <DatWolf> Where do I go to suggest you
[23:06] <reisio> DatWolf: nowhere
[23:06] <stef1a> how do you enable the TTY in 13.04? Unity stopped working for me, so I tried to install Gnome 3.8, but it doesn't work either, so I want to use the TTY, but when I press ctrl + alt + F1, I get a black screen with no prompt.
[23:06] <reisio> if you wanted to suggest someone else, though, I s'pose you could go to #ubuntu-ops
[23:07] <reisio> but I doubt it's much based on suggestion
[23:07] <DatWolf> It should be.
[23:07] <reisio> DatWolf: be that as it may :p
[23:07] <DatWolf> anyway
[23:07] <DatWolf> I'm banned from freenode
[23:07] <reisio> stef1a: try F2
[23:07] <DatWolf> :L
[23:07] <reisio> DatWolf: apparently quite an effective ban
[23:07] <stef1a> reisio: didn't work either
[23:07] <DatWolf> lel
[23:07] <reisio> stef1a: maybe your X is frozen, then
[23:07] <DatWolf> also
[23:08] <DatWolf> reisio
[23:08] <kion> reisio what do you mean by installed media
[23:08] <DatWolf> why does ubuntu recognize one of my network adapters?
[23:08] <stef1a> reisio: what can i do about that? start ubuntu in recovery mode?
[23:08] <reisio> stef1a: try CTRL+ALT+PrtScrn+k
[23:08] <reisio> kion: the image you installed Ubuntu from
[23:08] <reisio> DatWolf: why wouldn't it?
[23:08] <kion> iv re installed that like 3 times
[23:08] <DatWolf> I dont know?
[23:08] <DatWolf> *doesnt
[23:08] <kion> it still has the same result
[23:09] <stef1a> reisio: thank you :-)
[23:09] <DatWolf> I meant
[23:09] <DatWolf> doesnt
[23:09] <FloodBot1> DatWolf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:09] <reisio> kion: nobody suggested you reinstall
[23:09] <DatWolf> fuck you fuckbot fuck you.
[23:09] <reisio> stef1a: :D
[23:09] <reisio> DatWolf: it doesn't detect your network adapter?
[23:09] <genii> DatWolf: Please keep the language family friendly
[23:09] <kion> well then no i do not have the disk
[23:09] <Stark> I have the microphone/control button from a pair of headphones connected to the microphone input on my Ubuntu machine.
[23:09] <DatWolf> Yes, it doesnt detect it
[23:10] <Stark> Is there any way I can actually use the control button?
[23:10] <reisio> kion: that limits your options, unless you have another live/OS you could use
[23:10] <kion> nope but what would i do if i had it
[23:10] <reisio> Stark: those usually rely on the input jack/port having an extra ring contact
[23:10] <reisio> Stark: so not likely
[23:10] <Stark> reisio, I know, I have that ring contact wired to my microphone input
[23:10] <reisio> Stark: perhaps there are USB adapters
[23:10] <DatWolf> so....
[23:10] <DatWolf> any ideas?
[23:10] <reisio> Stark: um, sure, you could make it work
[23:11] <reisio> DatWolf: how have you determined it doesn't detect it?
[23:11] <DatWolf> Um
[23:11] <DatWolf> it doesnt show any wired connect?
[23:11] <Stark> I have a splitter that runs the microphone ring into the microphone jack
[23:11] <Stark> I can use the microphone
[23:11] <dsyncd> I was wondering if anyone would like to take a crack at this.  I was trying to install ubuntu-desktop and I ran out of space on the flash drive.  So I have a dpkg error stating that.  Do I regain the space if the installation fails and if not, how do I go about doing so?
[23:11] <xcaliber178> Genii: failed :/
[23:11] <DatWolf> *connection, but when I connect the wire to the other it does
[23:11] <reisio> DatWolf: what's the output of sudo lspci | grep -i net
[23:11] <Stark> And pressing the button causes a popping sound to come from the microphone
[23:11] <DatWolf> and it doesnt show up in the device manager
[23:11] <genii> xcaliber178: The command i gave failed, or doing Additional Drivers failed?
[23:11] <DatWolf> um
[23:12] <Stark> I'm pretty sure the button just short-circuits the mic
[23:12] <Stark> There should be some piece of software that can take that input and execute a command
[23:12] <reisio> Stark: I'm pretty sure assembling hardware devices is somewhat outside the scope of this channel :p
[23:12] <xcaliber178> Genii: additional drivers failed.
[23:12] <Stark> To pause media and stuff
[23:12] <phong_> hi guys
[23:12] <DatWolf> 04:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR9462 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[23:12] <reisio> phong_: ohio
[23:12] <DatWolf> 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82574L Gigabit Network Connection
[23:12] <DatWolf> 08:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin > data
[23:12] <Stark> reisio, I just need a piece of software that will take this input from the microphone and produce commands
[23:13] <reisio> wilee-nilee: smooth
[23:13] <reisio> Stark: look around /dev/
[23:13] <genii> xcaliber178: OK. So close that, and back to commandline with: sudo apt-get install fglrx    ...and if any errors please to pastebin again
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> reisio, It good. ;)
[23:13] <reisio> DatWolf: can you pastebin the output of sudo lspci -n ?
[23:13] <DatWolf> fk
[23:13] <DatWolf> shure
[23:14] <DatWolf> http://pastebin.com/ZbPKTAzu
[23:15] <xcaliber178> Genii: "fglrx is already the newest version."
[23:15] <DatWolf> fk you all
[23:15] <DatWolf> fk ubuntu
[23:15] <DatWolf> why the fk
[23:15] <DatWolf> fk
[23:15] <reisio> DatWolf: lsmod | grep -i e1000e
[23:15] <genii> DatWolf: Please behave. We don't allow short forms of swearing either.
[23:16] <DatWolf> fk = football kick
[23:16] <DatWolf> problem?
[23:16] <xcaliber178> Woooooow
[23:16] <DatWolf> e1000e                174556  0
[23:16] <reisio> DatWolf: you using the server edition?
[23:17] <DatWolf> sudo apt-cache search hydra
[23:17] <genii> xcaliber178: Does: grep fglrx /etc/X11/xorg.conf    ...produce a result?
[23:17] <k1l> !language > DatWolf
[23:17] <DatWolf> Fk
[23:18] <xcaliber178> Genii: no such file or directory.
[23:19] <genii> !xorgconf | xcaliber178  ...please follow the fglrx instructions from the bot
[23:20] <eponus> that was ridiculous, i'll find a different channel. censorship is pathetic
[23:20] <kion> is there any other chat i could go to to see if i could get this problem fixed
[23:21] <sifi> Anyone know how to easily build a precise package for raring?
[23:22] <wilee-nilee> sifi, Not a channel topic, and are you sure you need to have you looked for a PPA?
[23:23] <sifi> wilee-nilee: Sorry, yes I found a PPA, but it is for precise only.
[23:24] <histo> kion: lspci | grep Network
[23:24] <kion> i have tried that
[23:24] <kion> it says
[23:24] <histo> kion: And the output of my command is?
[23:24] <wilee-nilee> sifi, Have you looked to see if there is a build beyond that at all?
[23:25] <wilee-nilee> sifi, I have used other releases in my apt-list but you have to be aware of the ramifications, not really a load and forget thang.
[23:25] <kion> command not found
[23:26] <histo> kion: well then you didn't try that command.... it's lspci | grep Network
[23:26] <sifi> wilee-nilee: Yeah, no build beyond precise.  I found the proper channel topic
[23:26] <thekkid> Has anyone ever had a problem getting both wired and wireless to work on a laptop?
[23:26] <kion> network controller: broadcom corpartion BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev01)
[23:26] <wilee-nilee> sifi, You might be able to just get a deb of it and nstall.
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> install*
[23:27] <wilee-nilee> !details > thekkid
[23:27] <sevenforall> Greetings
[23:28] <wilee-nilee> thekkid, The channel works with you stating your problem.
[23:28] <histo> kion: Are you able to use wired internet again just to get wifi working?
[23:28] <kion> no
[23:28] <thekkid> I installed ubuntu on a Dell Inspiron 1520 and neither ethernet or wifi works
[23:28] <sifi> wilee-nilee: while I could end doing that, there are a bunch of dependencies required for the package.  I really wanna upgrade the PPA to include raring.
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> thekkid, Can you run this command and post the info  lspci | grep Broadcom
[23:29] <sevenforall> Whenever I try to install an application, I get this: http://pastie.org/8067987
[23:29] <sevenforall> The installation of some BURG theme probably went wrong
[23:29] <sevenforall> Any ideas on how to fix it?
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> sifi, Yeah, dependencies are the problem at times.
[23:29] <histo> kion: okay well you need to install the firmware for your wireless card following the broadcom page from ubottu.
[23:29] <thekkid> wilee-nilee give me a second to reboot
[23:29] <kion> i did
[23:30] <histo> kion: you can do this with another machine
[23:30] <kion> iv installed all of that
[23:30] <wilee-nilee> thekkid, Cool, we just need to see the cards
[23:30] <histo> kion: sudo iwlist scan        Does that output any networks?
[23:30] <kion> i installed it when the wired worked on the computer it no longer does
[23:30] <thekkid> wilee-nilee: I know its a bcm 4401-B0 ethernet card
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | thekkid
[23:31] <wilee-nilee> thekkid, That link should be helpful, I'm not up on broadcom, never had one.
[23:31] <kion> lo  Interface Doesn't support scanning
[23:32] <DedDeet> anyone know about PPC version of ubuntu?
[23:32] <histo> kion: well you need the bcmwl-kernel-source   package for your card to work
[23:32] <histo> !offline | kion
[23:32] <xcaliber178> Genii: I did the stuff for ati/and and it didn't help
[23:32] <kion> i have it installed
[23:34] <kion> how do install things from another computer onto the computer that has no internet i will try to reinstall them
[23:34] <thekkid> wilee-nilee: I think that's only useful for getting wireless working. But I'm not sure
[23:35] <DedDeet> Ok, running Ubuntu 5.10 on a MacBook G3. trying to install a wireless card. I do not have a working ethernet connection, hardware is broken. Trying to use ny NetGeat WNA1100 USB stick
[23:35] <DedDeet> lsusb recognizes a Netgear product, not sure where to go from here
[23:36] <reisio> DedDeet: what's lsusb say?
[23:36] <MonkeyDust> DedDeet  5.10 is no longer supported or maintained, the sources no longer exist
[23:36] <genii> xcaliber178: does: lsmod | grep fglrx      ...show anything?
[23:37] <DedDeet> reisio: lsusb says Device 002: ID 0846:9030 Netgear, Inc.
[23:37] <DedDeet> then two entries for device 001 with no ids
[23:37] <Ben64> DedDeet: you need to upgrade to a supported version of ubuntu
[23:37] <xcaliber178> Genii: it does not
[23:37] <DedDeet> MonkeyDust: its the newest PPC build that works on it
[23:37] <DedDeet> Ben64: cant be done
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> thekkid, It looks that way in general, just be sure to identify the card is all.
[23:38] <MonkeyDust> DedDeet  are you familiar with the concept of !eol ?
[23:38] <reisio> DedDeet: covered by ath9k_htc in modern kernels
[23:38] <DedDeet> MonkeyDust: no i am not
[23:38] <Ben64> DedDeet: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/ubuntu-12.04-alternate-powerpc.iso
[23:38] <genii> xcaliber178: OK. Unfortunately i have to leave work soon and will be unable to continue assisting. But hopefully someone will take up your issue. If not, I will return Monday.
[23:39] <DedDeet> Ben64:  what's the system requirements for that disk?
[23:39] <MonkeyDust> !eol
[23:39] <xcaliber178> Alright. I'll check back Monday.
[23:39] <Ben64> DedDeet: what are the specs?
[23:39] <DedDeet> MacBook g3. old as sh_t
[23:39] <reisio> DedDeet: so you could try sudo modprobe ath9k_htc
[23:40] <notluke> Hey all.  I've got a problem I've never seen before - using vlans on an         ethernet interface.  Traffic comes in fine, but egress traffic never hits the   wire.  tcpdump on eth1 shows ingress traffic, and tcpdump on eth1.3269 shows    both ingress and egress traffic.  http://pastebin.ca/2404555
[23:40] <DedDeet> reisio: can anth9k_htc be added via usb?
[23:40] <notluke> (Awesome pasted whitespace.  Sweet.)
[23:40] <reisio> DedDeet: sure
[23:40] <DedDeet> looking it up now
[23:41] <reisio> DedDeet: ath9k_htc, not anth :)
[23:41] <Ben64> DedDeet: then upgrade your computer :|
[23:41] <DedDeet> reisio:  google got me the right place ;)
[23:41] <reisio> :D
[23:41] <thekkid> wilee-nilee: It doesn't list the nic under any of those. Those are all just wireless cards :/
[23:41] <DedDeet> Ben64: if you have nothing useful, go away
[23:42] <Ben64> DedDeet: no. your release is not supported here. we can't help you
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> DedDeet, that release is basically not supported, don't get used to being helped here, just a heads up
[23:42] <DedDeet> funny, i got someone helping me right now
[23:42] <reisio> wilee-nilee: I think that's been said a few times already :p
[23:42] <wilee-nilee> DedDeet, And people putting you ignore as well.
[23:43] <Ben64> reisio: because it isn't supported
[23:43] <reisio> right, it's unsupported, and people said that
[23:43] <DedDeet> i should stick with the guys in #kubuntu, less ass hats over there
[23:43] <reisio> already :)
[23:43] <linux_is_my_hero> how do i install drivers that are downloaded as a "*.run" file?
[23:43] <Ben64> it stopped being supported in this channel in 2007
[23:43] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: ./path/to/file.run
[23:43] <Ben64> !attitude | DedDeet
[23:43] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: potentially chmod +x file first
[23:44] <reisio> Ben64: what did?
[23:44] <Ben64> reisio: 5.10
[23:44] <reisio> 5.10?
[23:44] <Ben64> ubuntu 5.10...
[23:44] <reisio> 5.10, that's old
[23:44] <DedDeet> Ben64: if there are no answers fine, but you guys are just being dicks about it
[23:44] <Ben64> DedDeet: then leave
[23:44] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: I'm kinda new to this, I don't wanna screw anything up: what does chmod do?
[23:45] <Ben64> reisio: exactly what we're trying to convey
[23:45] <DedDeet> someone is already giving me information. you dont need to keep harping on it
[23:45] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: man chmod; in this case, if the .run happens to not be set to be executed already, chmod +x would make it set that way
[23:45] <Ben64> we don't need to fill this channel with support for an ancient release
[23:45] <DedDeet> if you got nothing useful, stop talking, i heard you the first 12 times
[23:45] <reisio> Ben64: but do you think he didn't understand you the first few times? :p
[23:46] <Ben64> he still continues asking for support, so maybe not
[23:46] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: thanks! :-)
[23:46] <DedDeet> probably cause he's getting it
[23:46] <reisio> I don't see support, just whining :p
[23:46]  * wilee-nilee loves a good set of projections
[23:47] <reisio> I like tables
[23:47] <wilee-nilee> the world from my own reality yipee
[23:48] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: the chmod returned nothing, is that normal?
[23:49] <Ben64> linux_is_my_hero: yep, it only returns something if there is an error
[23:49] <jrib> linux_is_my_hero: on linux, things usually work the way they are supposed.  They only tell us when something went wrong :D
[23:49] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: yes
[23:50] <linux_is_my_hero> Ben64 & reisio: I'm having trouble now getting the run script to run, do I have to type in the whole file path even though I'm already in that folder where the file is?
[23:50] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: ./file.run
[23:50] <reisio> depending on what it is, it might expect to be run as root (be careful)
[23:50] <Ben64> linux_is_my_hero: what are you running by the way?
[23:50] <linux_is_my_hero> Ben64: HP's Linux Imaging and Printing :-D
[23:51] <reisio> hplip should be available in ordinary Ubuntu repos
[23:51] <Ben64> yeah, you shouldn't need to run it
[23:51] <reisio> to .run it :)
[23:51] <reisio> heh
[23:51] <linux_is_my_hero> Ben64: lol...
[23:51] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: I should've looked :-(
[23:51] <reisio> :D
[23:51] <reisio> it's best, when desiring software
[23:52] <reisio> to first assume it's available in the default repos
[23:52] <reisio> and if it isn't, assume it's in a non-default repo
[23:52] <reisio> and if it isn't, assume it's available as a .deb
[23:52] <Ben64> there is tons of stuff in the repositories
[23:52] <reisio> and if it isn't, assume it's available as something other than a .deb that you can make into a .deb
[23:52] <reisio> and if it isn't, then it's fun time :p
[23:53] <reisio> sensible package websites will mention distro package managers before providing a binary download link
[23:53] <Ben64> a lot of people install nvidia from the .run and end up with problems
[23:53] <reisio> but HP is a corporate entity, and thus not particularly sensible :) (although moreso than many others :p)
[23:53] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: yeah, I'm gunna go find it in the repo because with the run script, it wants to log in and out and have me restart the computer and all kinds of other things that the package manager would do on its own :-D
[23:53] <linux_is_my_hero> Ben64: yeah :-)
[23:53] <reisio> Ben64: what percentage end up with problems? :)
[23:54] <reisio> also it'd be harder to update it or remove it without using the package manager
[23:54] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: true :-)
[23:55] <reisio> linux_is_my_hero: additionally, you might want to install hplip-gui :D
[23:55] <Ben64> reisio: i'd say about 100%
[23:55] <Ben64> as soon as the first kernel update hits
[23:55] <reisio> Ben64: seems unlikely :p
[23:55] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: cool :-)
[23:56] <Ben64> they don't have the headers for the new kernel, so the module never gets built, and they're stuck
[23:57] <linux_is_my_hero> Ben64: thanks for the help :-) it worked
[23:57] <linux_is_my_hero> reisio: thanks for the help :-) it worked